WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:18.280 Hey, everyone, Welcome to Blurry Photos. I'm your host, David Flora. 2 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:24.440 Hey, Hello, happy end of the year. It is the end 3 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.640 of twenty twenty two, and I've got a pretty fun episode here for you. 4 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:33.560 Annie and I are fresh off of a trip to the UK in which 5 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:39.439 we did a ton of fun stuff. Apologies to UK listeners for not making 6 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.200 a big deal out of this. We wanted to kind of keep it a 7 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:46.960 little more low key and touristy and just kind of relax and get away from 8 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:52.320 stuff for a bit, although it didn't stop me completely from looking up some 9 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:58.359 spooky stuff. I actually went up to Loch Ness did a tour on the 10 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.799 lock. Didn't see any thing, but we stayed at this little b and 11 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:08.040 b that was right on the lake and was just about i'd say a half 12 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:15.840 mile maybe a quarter mile from Alistair Crowley's Bullsking House, which was pretty amazing. 13 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.560 Now they do tours of this place, but they weren't doing tours when 14 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:25.280 I was there. Unfortunately, they had it all locked up and gated because 15 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:29.239 I believe they're doing renovations on it, and it kind of sits up on 16 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.840 the bank away from the road, and we tried to get a picture, 17 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:37.920 but it was pretty hard to see and the gate went right down to the 18 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.200 road, so it's I was hoping I would get to drive up there by 19 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.560 it at least, but that was a no go, but pretty cool. 20 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.680 I was also in Nottingham and was all psyched because I was going to go 21 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.719 to this Robin Hood museum, and of course the day that we were staying 22 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.480 in Nottingham, it was one of the days that this museum was closed. 23 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:04.519 That that happened a few times on the trip. Went to Whitby Abbey, 24 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:13.080 which was the inspiration for bram Stoker's Dracula when he wants to buy Carfax Abbey, 25 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:17.560 and Whitby was also the place where the Demeter, the ship that brought 26 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:24.680 Dracula over to England. That's where they put in or that's that's where the 27 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:30.000 ship washed up with the crew dead or gone. So that was fun. 28 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.759 They embraced the Dracula stuff there. They have a lot of souvenirs that are 29 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.879 Dracula based, things like that. It's very cool. Now there was a 30 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:46.560 Dracula museum slash curiosity shop or something there that said it was open, and 31 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:50.280 it sure was not. So I got a picture being very grumpy. Outside 32 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.560 of that, all these all these places I was looking forward to killing. 33 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.360 I wanted to learn more about Dracula and Robin hood thanks a lot, but 34 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.360 that one they only spoke adjacent things that we did while we were there. 35 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:09.159 We actually did a walking tour in Glasgow called Gothic Glasgow, which focused on 36 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:15.479 the spooky history, weird and maccab's stuff that goes on and has gone on 37 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.800 in the city. And it was led by fella named Vincent, who was 38 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.719 very fun to talk to, very knowledgeable about the stuff. And I asked 39 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.520 him if he would like to come on the show and tell you guys a 40 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:31.280 little bit about the weird and wild things that have gone on in Glasgow over 41 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:37.520 the years. So that's who we're talking to today. Here's my interview with 42 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:47.479 Vincent from Gothic Glasgow Walking Tour. I am here with Vincent, the creator 43 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:53.080 and guide of the Gothic Glasgow Walking Tour. Vincent, how are you welcome 44 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.199 to the show? Thank you, David, thanks for having me so. 45 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.719 Annie and I took this tour back when we were in our whirlwind tour of 46 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.479 the UK. Has Glasgow warmed up any you guys were at the tail end 47 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.319 of a cold snap there. It's not too bad, David. It's actually 48 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:14.520 Christmas wasn't too cold. It's cold, but not nothing as bad as the 49 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.360 week when you were here. It got down to about minus eight. So 50 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:20.319 it's it's pretty It's nothing like that since. Oh my gosh, yeah it 51 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.879 was. It was a chilly one for us for sure. Wet, very 52 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:30.759 wet there in Glasgow. You guys get that dampness a lot. That's the 53 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.120 climate, although we had a very nice summer in fairness, we had a 54 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.480 bit of a heat blade in the summer. But yeah, yeah, it's 55 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.879 Glasgow is famous for its cold weather and it's wet weather. You know. 56 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.800 It's a bit like Ireland in that respect. They both have kind of similar 57 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.079 climates, you know. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And speaking of 58 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.000 Ireland, why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself and how 59 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:54.160 you came to be in Glasgow. Okay, Well, my name is Vincent. 60 00:04:55.079 --> 00:05:00.600 I've had a lifelong passion and interesting in the maccarb horror movies, ghost 61 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.319 stories, mysteries. I thought, it's been a lifelong interest for me, 62 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:11.959 so um, like yourself, I've acted over the years in theater and on 63 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.639 TV and stuff in Ireland. But I used to work on a number of 64 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.560 spooky tours in Dublin in Ireland before he moved to Glasgow. So obviously lockdown 65 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:24.319 happened, and you know, the tourism industry in the UK and Ireland just 66 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:29.360 disappeared overnight. Basically. I'm sure it's the same where you are as well, 67 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.399 just light overnight, literally for two years. So I wanted to change. 68 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:38.639 I've been to Glasgow in Scotland many times to visit friends. I always 69 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:43.319 liked the city but never considered living here. But I looked into it and 70 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.439 I looked into the history of the city, thinking okay, well there is 71 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.879 there a spooky tour in Glasgow at the moment, and when I researched there 72 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:56.519 wasn't. So okay that that that piqued my interest because I thought, okay, 73 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.279 well there's there's an opening, there's a niche that I can feel. 74 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.279 So the next thing was then to find out was the history and the ghostly 75 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:08.319 history of Glasgow good enough to sustain a two hour tour. So it began 76 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:13.279 researching online and researching the library about Glasgow and its history, and I just 77 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.639 found the most incredible stuff I think I told you when you're on my tour, 78 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.160 I could. I could. I could literally do a four hour tour 79 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:24.120 every night with the stuff that I discovered. But people in watching a four 80 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.240 hour tour, and I'm also interested in doing a four hour tour, so 81 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.680 you'd have to you'd have to sell it as a calisthenics and ghost tour. 82 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.079 I think, absolutely, just it's just too much. But I mean, 83 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:40.240 but the point is, though, the information that I discovered about Glasgow was 84 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.800 just incredible. Just for those people who were listening and don't know. Glasgow 85 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.480 is Scotland's largest city. It's got a population of over six hundred, six 86 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.040 hundred thousand people. That was in twenty twenty. Yet though Edinburgh is the 87 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:55.079 capital of Scotland, but Glasgow is actually a larger city and it's a very 88 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.839 prosperous city. Back in the eighteen hundreds it was a It was known as 89 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.600 the second city of the British Empire, with the built on the shipyards. 90 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.639 Basically Glasgow like a bit like Belfast. Glasgow was built on shipyards and during 91 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.920 its peaked would have been sixty two shipyards and the River Clyde. So it 92 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.879 was a really big industry and a very prosperous city back in eighteen hundreds. 93 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.439 But the shipyards are more or less long gone. I think I think there 94 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.839 were two surviving shipyards. But basically, David, yeah, I mean, 95 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:27.120 Scotland has a grave people. Most people may know about Edinburgh, but Glasgow 96 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.199 is a little hidden treasure. That's why I discovered. You know, Edinburgh's 97 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.160 where people go, it's the more it's the more touristy city of the two 98 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:39.079 cities. But there's so much to discover and enjoying Glasgow for sure. So 99 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:44.399 basically I spent yeah, I spent the bones of a year researching spooky stories, 100 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:49.360 dark history. I've a huge passion for Gothic literature, so try to 101 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:56.079 again to try to find connections with the great books like Dracula and Frankenstein and 102 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.399 Jacklin Height. Try to find stories connection with those and so I found some 103 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.959 very strong connections associated with Dracula, which which please be very much you may 104 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.000 recall we begin to our show. The show begins outside a place called the 105 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.639 King's Theater, and the great better the go see who I'm sure your listens 106 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.759 well know who he is. Oh yeah, the first Hollywood Dracula nineteen thirty 107 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.480 one Hungarian actor, but he performed Dracula on stage in this venue in nineteen 108 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.079 fifty one. Yeah, So when it discovered that, I was absolutely delighted 109 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:31.320 because I'm a big Dracula fanatic, so to find the go see actually performed 110 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.000 the play on stage in Glasgow City Center. That was very pleasing to discover 111 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.519 that. Yeah, that's that's hitting gold right away, absolutely, especially for 112 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.919 anyone who likes to mccarb or Dracula fans. You know, I think you 113 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.080 may remember David So that Dracula is officially the most filmed fictional character of all 114 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.000 time. You know. Just that's amazing, isn't it? Just no Lean 115 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:52.519 feat really, you know, And and that's in a pretty short amount of 116 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.799 time, you know. You you'd think it could go back to Robin Hood, 117 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:58.360 who's been around since the eleven hundreds or whatever, you know, or 118 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.200 even further back. But knows it's our boy's Dracula. But again, of 119 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.960 course there's there's a question mark whether Robin Hood actually existed or not, you 120 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:11.720 know, and there's zero whether Dracula exists. He was definitely you're pretty sure 121 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.759 the Vampire Dractor didn't exist. But of course Vladdan Paler, whose team true 122 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.320 heavily influenced the legend. He of course it was a real person, but 123 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.720 of course he wasn't a vampire that we know. They did like to impale 124 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.879 victims, victims on wooden spikes and that type of thing. Yeah, I 125 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.200 was going to say, this is h This wasn't an idea out of the 126 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:35.279 blue for you, because you had actually run a very popular tour in Dublin 127 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:37.799 called the Dublin Ghostbust Tour. Is that right? I worked on that day 128 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.120 and other spooky tours as well. Used to work on a tour called the 129 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.639 Walk Acarb which is around George and Dublin. It's long gone. Yeah, 130 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.799 I worked in the Ghostbust for a number of years. Yeah, so it 131 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:52.879 was. It was a good fit up until the pandemic when it just as 132 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.240 I say, finished over night. Basically. Yeah, I always in the 133 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.720 back of my mind had had the idea of having my own tour at some 134 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.279 point. You know, that wasn't my own tour, I see, I 135 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.080 see. So this, this tour Gothic Glasgow is my own creation, and 136 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.679 I'm very pleased. I started a tour in May this year, and you 137 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.679 no idea how these things are going to go. You know yourself working in 138 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.399 theater over the years, you know something something can diet death. Yep. 139 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:22.960 Absolutely. Podcasts are the same way. Thankfully, the tour is taken off 140 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.440 and people are reacting very well to it. It's getting great reviews on Triple 141 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.960 viys, are getting good word of the mouth. That's great. Something very 142 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.440 please know how it's gone this year, you know, yeah, absolutely well 143 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.799 deserved too. So you started researching this stuff, you said you went to 144 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:41.159 some libraries. What else did you do to get the information for this stuff? 145 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:45.360 Was? Was it limited to that or did you speak to anybody in 146 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.039 particular or how how did you go about more of the research mixture? It 147 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.120 make sure of being going to the library and basically online, you know, 148 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.720 looking for stuff online is always is always very helpful. Then of course having 149 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.679 to verify that these facts are correct, that's you know, Wikipedia is great. 150 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.600 It just had to back up, back up these articles with facts, 151 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.480 you know, right right, So that was that was quite long. But 152 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.879 you know, to me, the whole thing wasn't work at all. It's 153 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.679 just I find the whole subject fascinating and interesting. You know, the mccarb 154 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.000 and spooks, speaky stories, and it's not really worked to me, you 155 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.840 know, It's it's a it's it's a passion, always has been. I 156 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:24.080 was always brought up in the nineteen seventies watching Hammer horror movies and Amicus movies. 157 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:31.679 Yeah, speaking of a lifelong love of people like Peter Cushing and Christopher 158 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.919 Lee and Vincent Price and see these guys carl Off. You know, these 159 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.360 guys are my heroes. It's because they're great. Yeah. Yeah, they 160 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.159 are the masters of their craft. They were the masters of their craft. 161 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.600 And um so yeah, So a mixture of online research and a mixture of 162 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.440 going to the library. As I said, I just had to put down 163 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.639 the great info that I had down to two hours rather than four hours, 164 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:56.279 you know. Yeah, and then of course when I got to Glasgow had 165 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.799 to work out the the what's feasible to actually you know what, what locations 166 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.159 were you feasible to pass by and to stop with people? Yeah? How 167 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.279 did you? How did you work that out? Did you just walk around 168 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.519 the city for a few weeks and ye worked again. Google Maps is very 169 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.960 helpful as well, just to work out where how far each location was from. 170 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.279 So basically I wanted a two hour tour revolving around Glasgow City center without 171 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.000 going too far off the beaten track. And as you saw yourself when you 172 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.279 were here, Glasgow is very hilly. There's many hills in Glasgow, sure 173 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:33.679 is. So I didn't want to exclude any older clients or any people with 174 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.960 mobility issues. So wants to have a flat tour as such? Yeah, 175 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.279 yeah, smart. So it's been a good month walking around the old fashion 176 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.639 able to note pat in the pen and looking up. If you look up 177 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.000 in Glasgow, see the most amazing architecture, would you saw you? You 178 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.240 saw that yourself. Yeah, some stunning Victorian and George Georgian buildings, which 179 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.159 which for the most part are protected by by law, which is great. 180 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.919 You know, they can't actually be demolished. Now that's that's smart, that's 181 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.000 forward thinking because I mean that's part of going to any city, you know, 182 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.320 being a tourist and seeing something different. Is that old architecture and it's 183 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.159 just so gorgeous and you know there's such a mix there too, Yeah, 184 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.120 the different buildings and things. It's it's something you don't get much here in 185 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.639 the States, you know, if you do, it's it's just a very 186 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.200 small mix, or maybe you'll get something from the Old West and then some 187 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.360 something sixties and something modern. Yeah, it's not as not as cool over 188 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.159 here. Yeah, sure. What the history of your country is much is 189 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.360 much shorter of course, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. I 190 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.080 mean there's buildings in Ireland and Scotland which is you know, date back to 191 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.279 like in the sixth century. It's this type of thing, you know, 192 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.320 so we're talking a long long way back in time, right. Well, 193 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.399 as I walked around, they're just amazing. I say, I would recommend 194 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.320 anyone who's coming to Glasgow to look up. Look up with the buildings, 195 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.480 you'll see the most amazing architecture. I mean. When I was doing my 196 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.759 research with a no pad, it just I stumbled across. You may remember 197 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.279 I found the house of a writer called Thomas the Quincy that was basically basically 198 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.000 there was a plaque on a wall over a fast food restaurant. And great, 199 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.000 when you see a plaque, stop and have a look. I mean, 200 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.960 somebody interesting lived there at some point. Yeah, yeah, very rusty 201 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.159 old plaque, quite hard to read now, but this anyway, I knew 202 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.200 the name and then I researched him because he wrote a very things book called 203 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.919 Confessions of an English Opium Eater, and he was saying he was kind of 204 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.759 one of the first Hunter S. Thompson type. Right. That book, 205 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.159 as you probably know, it was actually recognized as the first official drug memoir. 206 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.559 Yeah, that's interesting. So, I mean, these are things if 207 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.600 you just look up, these are the things I discovered as a water around 208 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:33.679 the city center, things that you can't see online. You know, you 209 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.120 have to be physically in a place to to discover these things, you know. 210 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.480 Right, So with all the research that you did and comparing it to 211 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:46.000 the walking plan that you came up with, there obviously was some stuff that 212 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.600 you probably had to cut out then, right, sure that you had found? 213 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:52.759 Yes, I did did a few. Yeah, that's that's fair. 214 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:54.639 It's fair to say, yeah, did you consider going up to the Necropolis 215 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.799 at any point? I did, But again, David's way out of the 216 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.799 way, right. But there's also there's also there's already a tour, A 217 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.559 couple of tours actually go there already, so oh yeah, yeah, area 218 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.879 is pretty much covered by other tours. Also, there's a street called High 219 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:13.799 Street which brings you up to the Necropolis. So it's called High Street. 220 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.679 For reason, it's a very steep hill. Again, I want to keep 221 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.279 this tour flat, and um I wanted to keep I want to bring in 222 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.159 things people hadn't seen before, you know, like talking about the old sils 223 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.159 in Glasgow and pointing out buildings which which even locals. I get locals at 224 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:33.240 lots of locals on my tour who who are astounded to hear all the things 225 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.799 I'm showing them. You don't think they walk past these things a million times 226 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.480 and never knows them. You know, that is true, That's very true. 227 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.080 I think that's true of any city. Probably. There's so much history 228 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:48.240 that you know, has happened in places people are just not aware of aware 229 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:50.759 of. And why would they be, you know, it's not like they're 230 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:56.600 being taught this or it's an everyday thing. But yeah, just real quick, 231 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.759 I'll tell the listeners I mentioned this Necropolis. It's a very beautiful cemetery 232 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:06.559 that's up on a hill, way up on a hill overlooking Glasgow and you 233 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:11.960 know it. If you want your weeping angel statues and vaults and all kinds 234 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.639 of amazing stuff, you know, you go there. Go there during the 235 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.120 day and then do Vincent's tour at night, thank you. So anyways, 236 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:25.080 so back to some of this other stuff. So what was a story or 237 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:29.240 a figure that you had to leave out of your tour just because of logistics. 238 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.120 Well, the Glasgow a subway, which when you may have used that 239 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.559 when you were here, did you use the Glasgow subway? I didn't. 240 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:41.440 We use buses or walked like fools? Well the subway. Funny enough, 241 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.759 in Scotland, Glasgow is the only city that actually has a subway system. 242 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.320 That's amazing. Yeah, despite despite Edinburgh being the capital, there isn't a 243 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.919 subway system in Edinburgh. There is one in Glasgow and it takes back to 244 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.759 eighteen ninety six. Wow. So it's actually the third oldest subway system in 245 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.399 the world, up the London and Budapest. Huh yeah, So just put 246 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.519 that in contact eighteen ninety six, so it opened the year before Dracula was 247 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.440 published. So that's how that's how all that subway system is amazing. And 248 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:10.200 yeah, there's some I think there's some five of the ghost stories about the 249 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.359 Glasgow subway, but just it just there isn't time, just wasn't time to 250 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:17.319 do them, you know. Um. Yeah, there's a number of apparitions 251 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.480 have appeared on the Glassow subway. Going back over the decades. The most 252 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:25.480 famous one there's actually what was it, havn't I haven't said the story for 253 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.079 a while to remember the facts. Now, there was a four or five 254 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:32.119 really good subway ghost stories. There was a demon child, that's right, 255 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.880 a demon child which has been appearing. That sounds redundant, vincent, yea 256 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.799 a demon child. Well, little story. He's been appearing. He's been 257 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:45.079 appearing on a certain subway I think was George George George Street Subway system stop, 258 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:49.799 and he's been appearing for decades, devouring raw flesh in the shadows. 259 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.119 When he's seen, easy, he just disappears back into the shadows. But 260 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:57.039 the last confirmed siding that creature I think was a NINETI the mid nineteen sixties. 261 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:02.079 Wow, that's interesting. So that's just one of many subway just you 262 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:03.640 know, every city, of course has sway ghost stories. You know. 263 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:08.400 Yeah, there's um a kind of well known one over here where the city 264 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:15.119 of Cincinnati apparently spend a ton of money building the subway and never opened it, 265 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.559 never used it, and it's just sitting there under the city and and 266 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.519 you know, it's rife with creepy stories or things like that. So yeah, 267 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.680 pretty cool. It was never it was never used, never used, 268 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:30.519 not not even once. To my knowledge, I can can the public to 269 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.440 the public of access to this. I think it's you know, it's probably 270 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.160 gated up, barred and stuff. But people find their way in. You 271 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:41.079 know, people do well. Where where there's a wheel, there's a way 272 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:48.720 exactly. Yeah. Wow. So so the subway subway stories there, team 273 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.039 and child Wow, And I mean that sounds just that sounds like a normal 274 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:57.359 Tuesday, to be honest, child eating eating flesh and disappearing into the shadows. 275 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:03.839 Uh. I don't know why I'm dunking on kids so harded what else 276 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.240 did you find there? Well? What else have I believe it? I 277 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.519 said the things that covered the tour basically the main things I covered the tours. 278 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.680 You probably know it, you may remember. So we discovered tracts of 279 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.839 Scottish connections. That's the first thing that I bring up. Then then I 280 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:19.519 bring it up, bring up several ghost stories. One of my favorite parts 281 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.680 of the tour is when I when I asked the audience you may recall, 282 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:29.200 to share their ghostly experiences. And that's one of my favorite parts of the 283 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.240 tour because I just hear turning stuff from from all around the world, all 284 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:37.279 kinds of spooky encounters. And um, I've said it to that for a 285 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.039 long time. I must at some point write down a book of all these 286 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.359 stories that are collected from people over the years, both here and in Ireland. 287 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.759 Yeah, because some of the things you hear are better than my stories, 288 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.839 you know, So it's so amazing. It's pretty amazing. For instance, 289 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:52.920 if they remember a woman on my tour recently, he was a Russian 290 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.640 witch. Do you remember that story? Yeah, if you, if you 291 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:57.720 want to share it, that's that's fine. I just don't want you to 292 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:02.160 spoil anything for well I did. I just briefly say what happened on the 293 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:03.559 Particual life. She's lady from the Russia. She was a white witch. 294 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.759 She made that very clear that she and she does tarot card readings and crystals 295 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.480 that type of thing. And I was about to tell a story about a 296 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:18.559 party in Glasgow, a place called Old Wind spelled Wynd and it was a 297 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:23.640 very notoriously poor area in the late eighteen hundreds, full of crime and disease 298 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:30.960 and slum tenements, and there was actually very grizzly murder happened there in eighteen 299 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:34.400 seventy two, which remains unsolved. We arrived in the particular tour. This 300 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:37.640 lady was on my tour, she explained. As we were walking around the 301 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.079 block, she explained that she was a very psychic person. And I hadn't 302 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:42.519 even we got to this point. I hadn't even mentioned the story about this 303 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:48.119 chap and this woman literally burst into tears. It got really emotional. I 304 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:49.799 thought maybe I upset her, and I said he did I say something and 305 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.799 she said no, No, So I'm just feeling a strong presence of a 306 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:57.079 young male who died very violently, she said, in this vicinity. So 307 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.000 I gotta say myself. People to tour were kind of a gusts. Well, 308 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.920 okay, so then I told the story. So I'm not surprised she's 309 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:11.880 felt his presence was very close to us on this particular evening. So yeah, 310 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.799 that kind of blew me away, really, because I mean, you 311 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.039 know, it's quite specific. She can say a young child, or an 312 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.000 old man or old ladyship, a young male she had very early twenties. 313 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.880 This guy had a very very unpleasant death in this vicimity. You said, 314 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.079 it's an amazing story. Yeah, you know, it's very fun. I 315 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.839 think it's a very wise idea to try and collect these write them down when 316 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:38.839 you hear them, and yeah, yeah, the tour is great. And 317 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.960 again I you know, I encourage people to go on this tour. If 318 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:48.960 you're ever in Glasgow, look up Gothic Glasgow tours. I appreciated not only 319 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.759 the spooky part of the tour, but you also give a lot of history 320 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:57.799 with it and you learn a lot about the city itself in addition to you 321 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:03.480 know, some of the seedier stuff that has gone on. For For the 322 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.599 listeners of Blurry Photos, I would say you are going to recognize some of 323 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:12.680 the stuff that Vincent talks about. Because you brought up Burken Hair, which 324 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:17.440 I did an episode on just a year or two ago. You know that 325 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.680 there's a whole section and there that's very fun. Doesn't focus on Burken Hair 326 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:26.440 because of course they operated in Edinburgh, but there's connections and you know, 327 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:32.200 particularly some of the resurrection Men type of stuff that goes on, which is 328 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:33.759 a lot of fun. What is it? Do you do you have a 329 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:38.680 favorite either part of the tour or story that came out of your research for 330 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.319 it well. The two the two crowd pleasing parts, David, you just 331 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.119 as you just mentioned. The two parts of the crowds I think enjoyed the 332 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.799 most are the there's two crowd participation moments where I do a crash course in 333 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:55.680 body snatching as you saw, so I have to oh yeah for scoopy did 334 00:22:55.720 --> 00:23:00.640 the corpses from from the coffins, and I usually get an audience member to 335 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.400 take part of that and scrape for photographs. People always enjoy that part of 336 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.480 the tour. And he helped you out with that one. Absolutely your your 337 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.359 partner. She was great. Yeah, she wasn't using actress. Isn't Jesus, 338 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.160 So it wasn't. It wasn't a big leader. She she got into 339 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:18.880 the park. And then you may recall I also speak briefly about medieval torture 340 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.079 devices and again people love that part as well. Oh my gosh. There's 341 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.880 a place in Glasgow called the toll Booth steeple, the toll booth, the 342 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:32.559 tron stuff, Yeah exactly told booth. So the total booth takes back to 343 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:36.839 sixteen thirty two and it was at one time the location for public executions and 344 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:41.599 public punishments in Glasgow. Until eighteen fourteen. So that brings me nicely into 345 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.799 my my selection of torture implements. Oh yeah, yeah, and so people 346 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.720 loved at again of photographs and just you know, I like, I like, 347 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:52.000 you know, I tried to get a nice balance at the tour between 348 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:57.039 gore and and evocative stuff. You know. Yeah, yeah, you do 349 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:02.400 strike a nice balance there, because the evocative stuff that you got is very 350 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:08.079 evocative. It's visceral. Which which connect do you sort of tour David, 351 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.400 did any particular stories stay with you or did anything, you know, any 352 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:18.039 part of the tour that that part, the part about the torture devices and 353 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.680 um, the things like that, um and well and what I just uh 354 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.960 mentioned mistakenly there for the tron gate, which is that area right that's still 355 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:32.680 down in there the scales, Yeah, that you see tron all over the 356 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.640 city of Glasgow. And you know, Annie and I are trying to figure 357 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.599 out why do why do people like the user so much? Or why are 358 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.640 they in the system or whatever you are? They are they on these motorbikes 359 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.759 that glow. We were trying to figure all this out. Um and Vincent 360 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:51.400 explained that tron was an old word for scales, Is that right, yes, 361 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:55.759 yes, and so yeah, they had this place called tron Gate down 362 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.240 there in that area where they would weigh goods coming into the city. That's 363 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.839 correct, that's where you paid your told you for your goods, Yeah, 364 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:06.759 you paid your jib. Yeah, and so yeah, they called it tron 365 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.240 Gage and then and so all this stuff about tron has cropped up in the 366 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:12.960 city since then, like tron is on a bunch of churches and things like 367 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.200 that, and especially down around that area. Anyways, Yeah, so that 368 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.160 was that was very fun. Um, there's the I'm trying to do this 369 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:30.319 without spoiling. There's a story about the woman who murdered a child and yeah, 370 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.519 I was put in the prison. Um, you said she was the 371 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.799 last person to be publicly executed. No, the last woman to be hanged 372 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.680 in Scotland. Yeah, the last woman to be an earlier role. You 373 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.799 made a little guy earlier on the tour called doctor Pritchard. Oh yeah, 374 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.119 he was a fifty The last man to be the last person to be hanged 375 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.039 in public in Glasgow. Wow, So you you know, you get all 376 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.200 this stuff. It's it is very memorable these stories. I don't have any 377 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.920 notes in front of me. This is all from what I'm just cure. 378 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.559 I love to hear people when people have seen the tour, just which it's 379 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.200 been a few weeks since you saw the tour, so yeah, did anything 380 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:08.599 actually stay with you, you know, anything to stay on your mind after 381 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.559 the tour, you know? So yeah, no, it's it's very interesting, 382 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:17.200 very fun. Is there anything else that that you'd like listeners to know 383 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:22.200 or any other stories about doesn't even have to be Glasgow or your tour related? 384 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.039 M Is there any other stories or anything from anywhere that you'd like to 385 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.920 share with us? No, not the top of my head to David, 386 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.759 you know, basically, the website of my tour is www dot Gothic Glasgow 387 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.559 dot com. I'd love to have people from your negative woods and if they're 388 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:42.119 passing through Glasgows to come and see my tour. And I really enjoy meeting 389 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.079 people all around the world. I find that one against one of the perks 390 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.720 of the job. It's really interesting. I mean those interesting people, you 391 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.119 know. Yeah, yeah, A Garlon recently from Australia and she was a 392 00:26:52.319 --> 00:27:00.480 national Australian on the twenty ones Chess Champion of all things. Yeah, I 393 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.039 mean every nights an adventure. You know, you never know who you're gonna 394 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.440 meet, you know, of course, how many nights a week do you 395 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.400 run this at the moment During the year, I run the tour from Wednesday 396 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.279 to Sunday. Wow, there's more tours, more tours obviously during Halloween season 397 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.920 and then I'll do it'll get a bit quiet. It's a bit quiet January 398 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.720 for every March, so I'll do three nights a week for those books and 399 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.920 then back to five nights a week from April. Very nice. It's very 400 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.880 affordable too, by the way, for everybody. There's twelve twelve persons. 401 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:32.160 Yeah, that's reasonable for what you get especially and and like you said, 402 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:36.920 it's a two hour tour, it doesn't feel like two hours. It goes 403 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:41.839 by very quickly. And yeah, there's you you get a lot of variety 404 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.240 in there, you know, from start to finish, and you get to 405 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.079 see a lot of the city that you may not you know, either you're 406 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.920 taking a bus or cab or something and you might miss these places just in 407 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.240 general. But yeah, we recommend Vincent's done a great job. And yeah, 408 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.920 if if anybody is in Glasgow looking for something to do, you got 409 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:07.119 a night. Checkout Gothic Glasgow dot com and what all Vincent has on offer 410 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.599 there. You can book your tickets there online. Um, it's very very 411 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.400 easy, easy peasy, So Vincent, I appreciate you taking the time to 412 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:21.480 come and talk to us today. Pleasure, pleasure, and yeah, everybody 413 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:26.400 check out Gothic Glasgow Walking Tours. I'm looking forward, looking forward to hearing 414 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.079 your your next podcast about him. Can I say what it is? You 415 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.240 know, Well, let's just say it's it's revolving around the Old Father of 416 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.880 Lies, the Mini handed One, the Dark Prince himself, the Devil Lord, 417 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:45.400 the Lord, the Lord of the Flies, Beelzebub. Looking forward to 418 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.359 hearing that. That sounds very interesting. Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna 419 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.400 be good. It's it's a meaty one that I'm really you know, having 420 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.440 to write a lot and research for. So when it comes out, I 421 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.119 think people will really enjoy it. But it has been coming out since October, 422 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.319 so I need to really get on that. It is a big topic, 423 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.400 you know, it's huge. Oh yeah, and it's a delicate topic, 424 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.119 you know when you talk about religious studies and things. But yeah, 425 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.519 I'll let you know, and I'll let all our listeners know, but Vincent, 426 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.519 thanks again for coming and talking with us. I really appreciate it. 427 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:26.960 Thank you very much in a pleasure. Thanks once again to Vincent for coming 428 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.559 and talking with me today. Again. I think you guys would get a 429 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.119 real kick out of his tour. If you're ever in Glasgow, look up 430 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.079 his side Gothic Glasgow dot com and plan one of his tours for one of 431 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.480 your nights. I think you guys are gonna enjoy it because there's a ton 432 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.359 of history in addition to the spooky stuff. I know you guys enjoyed that 433 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:52.359 and learning new things, some very interesting connections, stuff from movies and literature, 434 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.119 history and folklore. So it's a good time. And he was mentioning 435 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.400 the next episode. I told him about what I was working on for Blurry 436 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.279 Photos, what I've been working on for a while, and that that episode. 437 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.200 I'm making it a point to get it out in January, so it 438 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.480 shouldn't be too much longer to wait. Speaking of waiting, we're still waiting 439 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.839 on distribution for the film, but it is all done. We're pleased with 440 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.880 how it turned out. We're just very excited to share it with you guys 441 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.920 and Derek has someone working on selling it for us, so that that can 442 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.240 happen as soon as we can get it done. Don't forget to check out 443 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.039 my Audible page, where I have several stories from Tom Lyons that I've narrated. 444 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.440 The newest ones are the It Stalked Me series. Volume one is out 445 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.759 and volume two should be available any day now, and volume three is on 446 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.039 the way. So I've got the Living among Bigfoot series and the It Stalked 447 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.720 Me series very fun. And don't forget I'm streaming on Twitch, twitch dot 448 00:30:52.759 --> 00:31:00.119 tv slash blurry Photos doing that Thursdays and Saturdays at seven pm Mountain time. 449 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:06.480 And don't forget to check out Hysteria fifty one and Quiz Quiz Bang Bang for 450 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:11.400 more paranormal stuff and some trivia. I appreciate you guys listening. I hope 451 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.839 you had a good crumpus knocked and a good Saturnilia. Happy New Year to 452 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:22.799 you, and for this episode of Blurry Photos, I have been David Dummy 453 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.440 Gothic Flora. Don't stop blur even