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Hey, everybody, it's the most
fabulous time of the week. It's where

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Rose Pricks takes on vander Pump Rules
and I am here. It's me,

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Stephanie Wilder Taylor. I'm here with
Cecily Nobler and she La. I'm just

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kidding, La La La LA's here. She lives with me now. She

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needed a place with ocean. Why
do you think she needed a place or

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things not going that well for her? I don't know. It seems like

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they're going all right, but I
don't know. She just needed extra hands

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on the baby. And I'm just
really good with babies. Everyone knows that.

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So I was like, move in, you know it, one bedroom.

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I have a question, sure,
wy, these people have babies.

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Why do we never hear see or
do you hear much about their babies.

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In fact, when Shena got married, I felt like her baby was kind

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of a weird accessory. It was
almost like it was a stuffed animal that

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she sort of like sometimes saw in
the room when somebody else was attending to

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it. There's my baby. It's
very compartmentalized. It's really weird because occasionally

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they'll do they'll be doing their drug. We'll get to that when they went

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blamping or whatever. They're so fucking
high on ecstasy. I don't know if

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all of them, but for sure
the sand of all Anaria, all of

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them, i'd say. And then
at the end of next morning, everybody's

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just because like we got to get
home to our baby. Who's watching your

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baby? Right? The dog's watching
the baby, So that's good. Well,

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who's watching the dog? James?
This episode, I thought last week's

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episode was insane. This this episode
was so infuriating. I cannot believe how

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infuriating it was. Well, first
of all, I had to watch the

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whole thing twice. I did,
I really did. I watched it.

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I watched it last night sort of
real time, and then I was a

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little tipsy when I watched the rest
of it, so I had totally different

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thoughts than when I rewatched it this
morning. And then I was like,

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oh, I got all that wrong. Like last night, I was like,

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James is the best you know?
And I'm like, well, all

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right, well let's calm down on
that. I also got myself kicked out

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of not whispering. But I've been
on this message I got invited to this

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scandal all message thread thing. Okay, whispering, and I've been on it

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and I usually, I mean,
I just read it. I don't usually

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comment, but every now and then
I get riled up and I comment something

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about how like I don't think it's
real. I don't believe it. It's

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fake. It's fake. It's fake. And they finally just kicked me out

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there they've had it. I think
they kicked me out. I can't see

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it now, so maybe maybe they
didn't, but I would have kicked me

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out too. At that point.
I just won't stop saying it. I

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mean, do you feel that well? I felt it when I said it,

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like when I when I because I
was like me, I mended at

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the time. I was like,
you're gonna get And I've said it on

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the show and people always kind of
get come for me. Not always,

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but like I just there's just moments
where people say, maybe it's a re

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editing issue, but they're still claiming
they didn't re edit this shit, and

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I just part of me feels and
this has been a theory. So I

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don't know why I get in trouble, but the theories that everybody was in

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on it. I mean, Arianna
wanted out, they all wanted ratings.

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It doesn't really make sense when I
say it out loud, So it's like

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I go back and forth on it. But there are just moments where the

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acting is so bad that I just
have a tough time believing it. I

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don't know, maybe I don't know. Well, let's go through and you

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can tell me parts that come up
for you. Okay, so these make

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your fonds go glamping. Let's start
with that. Yeah, these idiots and

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then this group group and Sheena,
I like, I'm speiled. I like

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it. I've never done that.
Never. When did they even all become

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friends? I know that they It's
weird because we so Chris not to go

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too far ahead, but and watch
what happens comes back. Yea, that's

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exciting. But like she all mentions
like me and are are we're such good

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friends? Like who are you?
When did everyone? When did Ariana become

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friends with fucking Roquel? When did
Gina become friend with the Roquel? Like?

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I watch pretty closely, and it's
confusing that they're all such best friends,

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which is kind of a clue,
right, yeah, but yes,

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right, I mean it's weird that
it's real or clue that it's fake.

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A clue that it's fake. I
know this is like a weird friendship that

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they're all standing up for her so
much, like she's some kind of a

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hero. She's so so aggressively dumb. She's so dumb, and I've said

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that too from the beginning, and
I was like, I always feel bad

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about it. But she's not about
manipulative. She's like a dumb, flirty,

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boozy girl girl. She comes across
as a girl like she's a teenager,

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and they're all like, coming,
God, she's amazing. It's like,

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what is amazing about her? Tell
me one thing? It's like interesting.

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All she does is flirt with everybody
and all the crop tops with little

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triangles cut out, Like how many
crop tops with little triangles cut out can

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one person have? That she's wearing
these little I know that's in I just

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like I know it's because so I
can be an example to like the girls.

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I just want to be a pack
son, roll a model. I

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just say something about pack son No
oh me of my daughter's friends like that's

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what they do. They're just like, oh my god, I just got

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the cutest new halftop at pack soon. Right, It's a lot of it's

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a lot of in all like weird, you know, asymmetrical the necklines and

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it's cute. It was cute,
like get two of those. Remember that

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show What Not to Wear? Remember
the show with stay Okay, of course

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there were two versions. Well,
that was one of their bigges. I've

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made this mistake too. I have
multiples. If I like a shirt and

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it comes in a couple of colors, sometimes I'll buy it in Boca.

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But they say not to do that. Not. I don't know why.

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It's such a dumb rule, but
Roquell really needs to take a page out

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of that, like you can have
too. You cannot have fifteen of different

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shirts that are exactly the same.
I won't have it. And then I'm

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going to have an opinion sure coming
in coming in late and hot okay,

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okay, that you're not gonna like. I'll like it. But I don't

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like Ariana either. I mean,
well, you're not alone here with you?

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Oh god is she's such a freaking
dragonsaurus. It's like he is,

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well, that's what see. But
then that back Sandoval a little. That's

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what he's been saying. No,
but I don't. I don't agree that

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Sandoval should be acting like a dick
and right cheating on her break up with

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her. But I can also understand
why their relationship is. I mean,

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I wouldn't want to hang around with
Ariana for lunch, let alone, like

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be in a relationship with her.
Oh my god, I had this.

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Okay, we're gonna get to that
too, because all right, so Lala

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has an office. Let's go to
her, like why does she have an

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office? Now, she didn't need
an office. She's a nice enough place.

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She has an extra bedroom, she
doesn't need a whole office. I

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didn't even do a photos. I
didn't even yeah, oh wait where oh

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wait that was when? So well, first they're showing the office when James

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comes by and they're doing like they're
doing the weird fun but you skipped all

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you skipped so much stuff. No
no, no, it goes back and

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forth. I just do it in
order, so like it shows them,

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then it goes to Lalla, and
then it goes back to the glamping.

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There's just the Lalla has an office. You probably didn't even notice because it's

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just the tiniest little thing. Okay, I just I'm going straight up in

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order because we're gonna go back.
Yeah, we're gonna go back to La

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La and James talking, okay,
but I still I have something to say

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about the smashing pumpkins thing. Oh
god, like everybody's smashing a pumpkin.

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And then Ariana is like, like
her personality doesn't even have this strength to

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throw a pumpkin. This is when
I was like, oh my god,

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what stay home girl. She's like
like, I'm doing an arm motion that

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you can't really see, and then
she kind of throws the pumpkin as if

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it's like a bowling ball, as
if it's that heavy and it just rolls.

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And I was like, girl,
I mean I could kind of relate

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to that because I don't like to
lift things. I have a hard time

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opening jars. I get it,
but it's it was What hit me later

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was when way later in the episode, is you know when everyone's hugging Arianna

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that nobody knows yet allegedly they're starting
to know, but Arianna doesn't know everyone's

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hugging her, and they're and they're
like, you've had such a year,

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and I'll just get because to your
point when Katie, Katie's gone through a

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lot too, but everyone has to
be like, oh, your grandmother died.

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I mean, yeah, it's awful. But like Katie, Katie fell

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through like a glass table and had
her face completely like torn up and had

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to have reconstructive surgery completely on her
face. Also she went through a really

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awful public divorce like she's also and
she also lost people that have died,

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like you know, I don't know. I feel like it's this, this

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this narrative about Arianna about she's like, oh, she's just been through it.

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It's like, okay, we all
we all have yeah, and I'm

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a bad person. But the grandma
dying stuff, It's like, Okay,

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your grandma was probably in her nineties, right, Like, let's face it,

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like that's kind of life. You
didn't lose a child or even a

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parent, right, Well, she
did lose a parent, but you know,

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ten years ago. But it's still
saying But I'm not saying, I'm

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saying this thing that she's going through
where everybody has to like rally around her

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like you lost your grandma? I
mean, cold does she? I freaking

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how old? She is? Probably
in her late thirties. Let me ask

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who? Do I ask? How
old is Ariana Maddox? We never say

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their last names? Oh now It
just picked me up saying that okay,

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okay, okay, so now we
need to we need to break down this

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whole convoluted story where I and it
made me laugh because I thought of Ronnie

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Caram doing his impression of Ken rolling
in what do you mean when Lalla is

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talking to James? But also like
what about the right when Lalla's talking to

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James? And then we do all
these flashbacks right, which one of them

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was Satchell in the flashback, So
it stayed on Satchel for so long.

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I laughed out loud so many times. The editors really knew what they were

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doing with Satchel there, because Satchel
is nowhere to be found in this episode

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except for those flashbacks. And yes, Ken coming out and he's like,

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what don't you think it's so weird
that um sat in the vall and what

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slept together in the jacuzzi and then
he just goes off and then he just

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rolls away, and then I picture
talking on one of those things, one

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of those chairs, motorized chairs that
take you upstairs, like if you have

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stairs in your house, Like I've
just picture him sitting on one of those

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as it slowly carts him up the
stairs and his voice it's more and more

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far away. Oh my gosh,
yes, like a Doppler effect, like

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yes, yeah. Oh, by
the way, Arianne's thirty seven. So

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yeah, I mean I lost my
last grandparent. I mean I got you

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know, unfortunately I lost them early. But the last name was nineteen and

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we were really really close. You
and I have mom issues, so you

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know, the grandparents kind of they
were important in that way. And uh,

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but yeah, that was a long
time ago. You're lucky if you

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make it to almost forty. That
is where there's just not a tragedy when

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you lose I'm gonna just say it, and it comes for me, I

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don't care. It is not a
tragedy that requires people to just crowd around

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you and start a meal train and
like understand everything that you're going through when

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you lose a grandparent. Now,
that is not to say that Sandoval shouldn't

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have come the fuck home. Oh
I'm that party. That's that's a separate

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issue. Your girlfriend is going through
something, it doesn't matter what it is.

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But I'm just saying that all of
this talk about oh my god,

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Ariyanna and she's so much just happened
to her, not really, I know,

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this is what I'm saying. That's
the thing, Like Katie doesn't ever

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get a break, right, and
Katie's having to hug her and going,

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god, you've just been through so
much. It's like no one ever hugs

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Katy and says that, and she
has right. And Katie's recent ex husband

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is like date trying to actively outwardly
date one of your friends, and nobody

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can even divorced yet, and Ariana
doesn't care. She never stands up for

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her. No, nobody is going, like, you know what, Katie,

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that is absolutely fucked up and not. Okay, yeah, no one's

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really saying that exactly, except they
do, little bit James because for a

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different reason. But yeah, different
reason though, Oh my god. Okay,

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So then yeah, that's I think
when I saw that, the sort

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of bat you know, the flashbacks
during that scene, I think that's when

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I wrote on my little weird thing
about this is fake, and I think

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that's when I got kicked out.
Okay. So, so basically, this

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story, in case you guys aren't
watching the show and just coming to us

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for your soul recapping, telling you
what happened needs, this story comes out

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about how Roquell slept over at Sandoval's
house because she got drunk. They were

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all partying, and then she got
drunk and then somehow came over and she

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and Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval were
in a hot tub together, and then

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Schwartz left, and then the whole
thing is how Sandoval's like, yeah,

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and then she dipped, yeah,
but then she didn't. But then she

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didn't dip. Well, what he
meant by dipped, apparently is dipped up

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to his bedroom. Yeah, dipped
up onto his you know what, right,

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I don't know, yah exactly dipped
up on ma coq. I just

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gonna say that. But I was
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so I stopped myself. But you
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thought this was a g rating.
I don't know if people know this.

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We have to get ratings for a
podcast now. So Roquehell telling Lisa,

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Oh, I'm so sorry, I'm
so late, and then just the lies,

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the lies, lies, lies,
just watching it this very Rachel comes

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to work late and by the way, every everybody, all these people are

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like oh yeah, and then you
know, Roquel looked like a bag of

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shit. It's like, oh,
I'd love to look like a bag of

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shit. That the Roquell was wearing
her cute little vander pump, her sir

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or whatever, a little sleek,
little black dress. She was in full

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makeup and her hair was done.
Yeah, that's a That's what I was

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like. This seems fake. They're
all like, oh yeah, and you

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look like crap. No, she
didn't. And Lisa's a bad actress.

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She's a terrible actress. Terrible Kyle. Kyle is also a bad actress.

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There's so many you know, you
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Oh Kyle is? I guess,
yeah, as she was at one

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time. But like, I'm just
going back to those days where I was

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like, Lisa can't you know,
she can't pull one over because she's such

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a bullshit. Of course, she's
planting these stories and page sex. Of

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course, right, somebody is it's
Bravo. Somebody's doing it. But Lisa's

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part of it. So Raquel admits
that she slept over. The reason why

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she's so tired and looks horrible is
that she slept over at Sandoval's house on

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the couch. Every the story keeps
changing, so the Lisa Vanderpump calls Tom

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Sandoval and oh my god, he
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of the cheating. His personality is
so he's so fake. Yeah, like

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the way he treats women. He
does the thing where he like put he's

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a total narcissist. He puts these
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with Ariana in the beginning. He
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We've talked about it. He did
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and Ariana was the son in the
Moon of the Stars. Then he

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cheated on her for ten years.
Then he devalues Ariana, and then Raquel

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is the son in the Moon Stars. It's like, I mean he does

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it. He does take a long
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a few six months. Yeah,
he's just don't angry. He's an angry

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person and he's angry at women.
And I can't every time he opens his

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mouth, I'm like, oh god, this is all I Know's it gets

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worse and worse, And so is
this When they go to a smoking there's

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a smoke. Oh yeah, he
James and Sandoval go to like a pot

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smoking lounge. Why would you even
why. I don't know. I didn't

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even understand that point of that kind
just wrote your own house, I know.

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Why do you have to go to
a designated pot smoking place? It's

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legal, guys, right, like
very legal, like recreationally legal. Like

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oh that was so we had to
fly to India so we could like weell

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it on this show. It's real
legal. It's great. It's real legal,

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y'all. Yeah, it's real legal. Curiously, it's awesome. So

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do you don't have to do a
full weird thing where they're Yeah, they're

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in like some kind of speakeasy,
like though we're good, by the way,

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we want to speakeasy. And we
had some drinks with alcohol in them.

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Yea. Everywhere you go you could
just buy it. You could go

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to Trader Joe's. Yeah, very
easily. There was a speakeasy when I

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was in New York a couple weeks
ago, and it was just like underground

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and there was no sign and you
had and I'm like, and there was

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nothing different about it. It was
just drinking, right, Like, why

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are we calling you guys? Oh, we're playing a little game. This

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is a game, Alanna, Okay, so these worst actors, this is

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that's when they mentioned the Memorial Day
thing so that he didn't come back.

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They've mentioned it before, and I
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sound up for you. Oh yes, so this is this is so James

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is recounting Sandoval saying that Roquell slept
over, but then she didn't really sleep

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over, but she kind of slept
over. So here listen to this ready,

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yeah, grass, and I'm like, we're called down and so obviously

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like chores, were we spend the
ninth for dogs are there or whatever?

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Well? Yeah, left, she
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not my room, my guest she
went to you know, she dipped

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you know, she went to my room,

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I mean not my room, you
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mean that was the most stuttery Yeah, bullshit, bullshitty, And that was

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practiced. It's stuttery and still probably
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So that was probably the fifteenth time
they said it. But I love

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that James is like, wha.
That's when I wrote that James was the

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MVP of the episode. Yeah,
when he goes waw. But the thing

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is, that's also when I still
feel it's fake, Like they're having a

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fake conversation, and James already fu
knows he knows, right because like believe

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me, and he's maybe the best
actor of all of them. But you

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can even tell when he's in calm
mode, when he's sober and having conversations.

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I'd i'd actually really enjoy him.
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him this episode. And now it's
just when he whatever, Okay, so

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that's mad. Lama is now like
what the fuck? Yes, and now

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we all find out about this Labor
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but yes, it doesn't matter,
same Memorial Day. So that would

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have been a year ago, right, m I was get Labor Day in

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Memorial Day? Confused ones in September
and ones in May. Yeah, Memorial

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Days in May. So a year
so a year ago. There was there

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was a party and Eric that's the
way Arianna's grandma died and when she called

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Tom he didn't Then he didn't leave
for another two hours, saying you couldn't

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get an uber, which is not
a thing. That's not a thing.

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You can always get an uber.
It's Los Angeles, right, So now

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La La feels like she cracked the
code. So she's like she says,

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and then James is like, she
says, I think Tom has a thing

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for Arianna. I mean, not
for Arianna, and James is like,

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wow, I'm making him like he's
an Oliver. Well thanks, so I'll

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clean the chimney now, James,
you've lived in this country all the way

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since like junior high. He is
weird that his accents so strong. By

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the way, somebody dug up on
whispering. I don't know it's real or

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not, but they dug up his
high school yearbook, which is here.

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He was here, and uh,
I mean you know that's well. I

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guess he's so young. It's not
that long. I'm not sure when he

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moved here, but I don't know
that the accent should still be so strong.

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Say I agree anyway. So then
Sina, at one point I just

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wrote this down, basically says like
Triana, like, how's your dead grandmother?

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But it's like everyone's like, how
are you like again? Acting like

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okay, all right, Sandoval fake
cries At this point, I'm back.

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I am back at the glamping trip, where Ariana looks just so frumpy.

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Everybody's dressed like slutty, except for
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like highish collar, pink shirt and
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I just wrote she looks she looks
like an older lady in Miami Beach,

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Like she just stands out in this
group no makeup. Everyone else is made

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up. Arianna is just like I
give up, like I'm in my late

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thirties, doesn't matter anymore, like
which I would do too, might keep

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it together. I mean, I
like that. I like that aspect of

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her, but I know what you
mean. It comes off weird. You're

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on a TV show and now you
got Roquell going like I just love being

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the youngest. Oh my god that
oh god, was that at the lamping?

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That was lamping? That's right?
She does say that. Oh yeah,

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she's like and then she doesn't otf
about how like this is like so

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great, Like everybody's so nice to
me, Like everybody's like like treats me

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like so great in this group,
like these are all my like really good

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friends. Okay, I think I
have this later because there's some stuff that

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happens before that. It doesn't matter. We'll get we'll skip to that.

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But I did. I did write
this down. I was like, should

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we be investing in um like give
them La La products, and then I

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wrote I feel like it's a no. So that okay, so we got

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that hold on. Oh oh when
Lalla says she's like this shit, I

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mean, I've got to put I've
got to have my business because this If

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Ocean ever wants to go to college, this is how she's gonna go to

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college. It's like, no,
I feel like Randall's probably gonna pay for

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Like, let's look, we hate
Randall. I'm not saying like I'm team

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in any way, but he's he'll
he's got the money, he'll put the

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kid through college. Oh yeah,
I mean that she's trying to pretend like

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she's completely a single one, like
no money, she's nothing, nothing but

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right when well, to be fair, though she didn't marry him, but

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of course he's going to put his
kid through it's his kid. Though it

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doesn't matter if she married him,
then she doesn't get like alimony. But

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she's on a TV show, so
somebody, I just want to mention something

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that happened right before that. And
I know we're going to go over this

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a lot. Uh you know,
well not for a lot a lot because

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we're almost done but where they're still
at the glamping trip. Uh, they're

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Sandoval admits he tells the thing,
but in front of Ariana he's They all

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ask what happened over the weekend,
which seems really set up, and then

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Roquel tells aria how she, oh, I slept over and Sandoval is like,

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I mean on the couch, but
then I told her to take the

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bedroom. And Arianna is not bothered
by this whatsoever. This is what I

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wrote too, I said this conbo
is completely in front of her. It

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feels really stilted in fake, and
this is why I get in trouble,

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because it doesn't seem to bother her. And then they do a flashback to

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Sandoval lying to all the guys about
her staying over, and everyone is laughing

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about it, like, oh my
god, that is such a silly goose

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fib what no, biggie, This
is like, Okay, imagine if you

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were watching like a thriller. Okay, you're watching a movie and it's an

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hour and a half ninety minute thriller
and you figure out sometimes it happens,

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you get lucky, and you're like, that guy did it. It's so

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obvious that guy did it right,
So then you have to watch, but

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you have to get through this hour
and a half because you're like, oh

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my god. And finally at the
end, yeah, that guy did it.

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You'renew right right. This feels like
that Betimes one hundred because we're having

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to watch this for fifteen thousand hours
about like our everyone knowing except our Rina.

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It's ridiculous. It doesn't make any
sense. It doesn't make any sense.

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And now I'm just like, all
right, already, get to the

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get to the part of the show
yes in the season where they know,

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because this is now just stupid.
It's so frustrating. Before we get back

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fully to the clamping part of that
Laalaw conversation with Katie is they're bringing up

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the it's important later about the open
relationship that comes up. They're flashback into

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that again about how you know,
it's been sort of said that maybe they're

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kind of open, which Arianna says
is not true. That's what she says.

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I believe it, but someone brings
up the Dawn and Satchel in that

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point, I just wrote, no, not the Dawn and Satchel. They

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just keep bringing them up and they're
never going to show them again. I

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don't think, But I wrote also, I do also believe, even though

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she's saying otherwise, I kind of
believe that it was probably a little open.

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I think it's not supposed to be
open when she's not fair. I

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think that's maybe the distinction. I
think it's not supposed to be that he's

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supposed to go fall in love and
have a secret affair. But I think

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that the three of them hooked up. This is just what I think.

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Yet, Madamie, come for me. I don't care. This is are

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we At the part where Shena is
telling Arianna that Katie insinuated that they she

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and taught me, Yeah that was
I mean, and she and is like,

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I just think it's so fucked up
that she would even talk about it.

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M Like, she talks about everything
all the time. That's all Shena

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does is talk shit about everything.
Right, So then okay, So at

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the thing I was so disgusted when
they're talking at that they're back glamping and

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they have the invite in, Schwartz
is like, should I we know Katie's

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going to be there? Should I
bring Roquell? And then then he kind

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of becomes like a decent person for
a second. Is like, no,

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that's wrong. I'm not going to
do that, and she's like why why

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is it wrong? Roquell is like
she's incited. Yeah, she is a

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stupid demon. Yes, and everybody
laughs about it during that dinner, they're

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all sitting around and they're like,
oh my god, yeah, Roquell has

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a type and she's like, oh, they're like men who are taken.

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Man. Oh, that's the joke. But what about when when Ariana says

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like, she's I mean, why
how is this your best friend? Ariana's

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actually, I will give her this. She's very smart, she's funny,

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she's not like she's she's better than
all this. So when she says too,

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when she said she's like, well, I can you still do pageants?

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Like why are you? Why are
you lowering yourself for this conversation?

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You don't care if she can do
pageants or not. And then she's like,

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I've aged out of pageants. That's
when it was the big dream to

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be a role I just want to
be. Yeah, well or they weren't

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they going to extend the age limit. Yeah, I don't think that's going

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to happen, And I just wanted
to My dream was to be model and

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Miss California. I just was gonna
be Miss California and really like teach young

403
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like shy girls like myself, like
how to be a better lady. Since

404
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.240
I'm not going to be in pageants, I don't have to be moral.

405
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:52.759
I don't have to be moral now. Yeah, I don't have to be

406
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.839
a person anymore. So watch out, bitches. She is a psychopath.

407
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:02.119
And then thank you her VERSACEI so
glasses together as a These were from me

408
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:06.799
and Arianna stand the ball we got
and she's like, oh my god,

409
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.559
I love you guys. And then
Arianna is like, you know, she's

410
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:17.319
just so admirable, like you going
through that breakup with James and then just

411
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.920
getting over it and being ute.
That's role model behavior. Oh my god,

412
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.839
did Arianna say that? Yes?
Oh I can't. I just I

413
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.400
can't. Then there's like a Love
Island crossover. I don't know if you

414
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.960
got that one. China was like, I got a text that's from Love

415
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.200
Island. Oh. When they get
a text from like the producers that something's

416
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.160
happening, it's like a Big Brother
thing. Okay, we got a clue,

417
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.079
we got a thing. So that's
what that was. So they get

418
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.640
a text for that. I guess
ruck hell is allowed to go to the

419
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.119
party, the dumb fucking party that
they're gonna have, I know. And

420
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.559
were you like, oh my god, why are you so sad about not

421
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.920
being invited to a launch? I
pray to not be invited to people's like

422
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.640
product launches. It's no different than
getting invited to like an MLM like product

423
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.480
party. Do you want to party? Yes, you have to buy all

424
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.079
their crap? Right, yeah,
she wants to go because she doesn't even

425
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.400
understand what it is. She's like
a party and like people are gonna be

426
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.960
there, ooh new body wash.
Can't wait. I'm sure this is really

427
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.880
different. I mean, at least
when Lisa they take up those like springs

428
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:19.839
some tone around her face, she
was like, m yeah, you could

429
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.559
tell she but she doesn't ever show
anything anyway. I told you what I

430
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.440
met her at, Sir. My
boyfriend at the time was like, I

431
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.039
went to some very good friends with
your son in law. I know your

432
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.200
daughter. This is my girlfriend.
She loves the show. This was so

433
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.799
long ago that like Lisa should have
been thrilled. Not everybody loved the show

434
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:41.759
yet, right, And she was
just like hello, I mean it was

435
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.119
insane. Her face didn't move like
it was just scary. It was kind

436
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.079
of scary. I cannot express at
this moment. This is what I said

437
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.839
earlier. How high when they were
all in the tent and they're like,

438
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.599
have glow sticks and they show it. They give her her little glow room

439
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.480
or whatever. They're so high,
all of them, And that's fine.

440
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.839
I'm not judging that. I just
know. I just know what it looks

441
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.359
like. Look, I'm just gonna
say it. I know what it looks

442
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.119
like to be on Molly, and
they're all very high. And that's another

443
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:10.400
reason I think that they all hooked
up. Right, we called it ecstasy

444
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.640
in our time, but whatever.
We does tell a story later about how

445
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.000
she was in the back of a
car, like, oh yeah, yeah,

446
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.759
that was. They showed that many
seas. They didn't show them hooking

447
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.400
up, but that was. That
was a major plot point many seasons ago.

448
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.279
They hooked up. Yeah, and
Arianna was like, you know,

449
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.599
don't don't shame me because I'm by
But it was like, no one shaming

450
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.720
you because you're by there, but
you have a boyfriend, right, that's

451
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.119
the thing. So is it open? That's why the question always sort of

452
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.160
came about where, yeah, they
did hook up, and I kind of

453
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.160
loved it. I loved that Lolla
hooked up with her instead of like Sanda

454
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.400
Ball or some shit. You know. I also love Katie's mom. I

455
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.720
love how supportive Katie's mom has always
been throughout all these seasons you missed.

456
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.039
You may have missed a few seasons, but when they would show Katie's mom

457
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:02.240
compared to Stace's mom, who was
kind of a night and James's mom,

458
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.200
there are a few bad mothers,
and so they would kind of show it

459
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.720
on the show, and you're just
like, oh, thank God for Katie's

460
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:14.279
I do. I do not like
how Tom Schwartz like storms in and he's

461
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:15.559
like, you mean at the party, yeah, and he offers Katie and

462
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.880
her mom drinks, and then then
he says to the camera he's always like

463
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:25.079
preemptively mad. He's like, Katie's
giving me the biggest cold shoulder. It's

464
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:29.480
like, start approaching her, I
know, leave her alone, leave she's

465
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.039
with her mother. I hated that. I really hated that too. But

466
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:36.000
before that was the James Alley conversation, and that's when I was saying,

467
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.119
like, I think I mentioned this
but James sober Is really has so much

468
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.359
potential. I really get sad when
I see that, because it's like,

469
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.079
he really is a good I can
see why these women kind of fall for

470
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.839
him because he plays that game where
he can be really really awful, but

471
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.160
he's going to fix sale, fix
you right, terrible and tear you down.

472
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.200
But he's I'm going to fix you, which is a terrible thing for

473
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.559
people. And I love the Alley
so strong. She's the old the first

474
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.640
one I've seen come along that just
doesn't take. It's like, sit down,

475
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.519
take all the seats. And I
believe him when he says he's not

476
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.559
into Rockell. I actually believe him
at this I don't at this point,

477
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.799
I think he isn't. Yeah,
but Rob helped me a while. Comes

478
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.559
into this party. She's worry right, black like parachute pants kind of thing

479
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:21.839
like Michael Jackson pants, sure,
but with a thong coming out of the

480
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.720
top of the back, like it's
two thousand and four, right, And

481
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.279
I missed that. I missed it. And then up to Tom Schwartz and

482
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:37.319
she's like, can you get me, madam better if I drink? I

483
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:38.119
was like, He's like, well, I have to make it and she's

484
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.799
like, oh no, no,
yeah, doesn't make it. It's me

485
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:47.880
vakatatic. She flirts so hard with
every single one of the guys. It's

486
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.039
just like this desperate for attention,
and I don't understand how poor Katie is

487
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:53.759
the only one that sees it.
I know, and every time someone's like,

488
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.960
what doesn't see it? I think
Katie's mom is like, oh,

489
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.720
thanks, honey, you know how
I like it, Like, hey,

490
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.519
hey, Katie's mom, don't you
don't have to be that nice to Schwartz.

491
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.119
But oh, all of the all
of the friends are like, Roquels

492
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.960
so nice. She doesn't she means
well. And then next scene is like,

493
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.359
you know, basically Roquel throwing herself
at Schwartz, throwing herself at James,

494
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.720
throwing herself. She's just constantly needing
validation from these guys. But when

495
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.039
Katie's like, you, guys,
she's a fucking ho, They're like,

496
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.920
oh my god, how dare you? I know, I feel I just

497
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.039
want to hug Katie every day all
day. And Arianna pulls Katie like it's

498
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.880
the like the Bachelor, right,
pull you for a second, pull you

499
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.519
a second, and then she's like
yeah, okay. Oh, she pulls

500
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.119
Katie because she has to because they're
opening their sandwich shop, which we're all

501
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.680
going to go to. You and
I will go, of course. So

502
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.559
really I'm doing it for Katie because
I think Ariana is fine. I think

503
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.839
Katie's the one seeing Satchel hanging around. I think Katie's the one that needs

504
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.519
our support right now. Okay,
I wrote down the conversation. Do you

505
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.559
want to to play a role,
sure, I'd love to. Okay,

506
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:04.039
do you want to be Ariana or
Katie? Um? I will be Arianna

507
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.720
because I feel like she says less
and I don't remember exactly what they say.

508
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.400
Okay. So Katie's like, listen, I mean nothing was really said

509
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.759
to James. She's like, I
mean okay. So then I think Katie

510
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.880
is basically like, well, I
she's telling her about sandaball right, tell

511
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.920
well, I heard that Tom and
Raquel were out dancing at the abbey alone,

512
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:30.559
and Ali was like, well,
what's up with that? So I

513
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:35.000
told her, your relationship is like, you know, kind of like more

514
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.440
like unconventional. How is it unconventional? It's not unconventional. I've never said

515
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.359
that. I never said that.
Yeah. Well, she also says,

516
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.279
She's like, but you said to
Ali that we don't have rules and anything's

517
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:51.000
okay unless it embarrasses me. Okay, Katie goes, first of all,

518
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:55.200
I never said the word rules or
embarrassed. Right, yeah, I love

519
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.720
that she kind of hides that.
I mean we all and then and then

520
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.200
Arian was like, I trust in
love, I trust and love Roquel.

521
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.359
She goes, she twist your words. Though. It's like, okay,

522
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.760
so right there, you're basically a
blaming Katie. You're saying she's lying,

523
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.199
like you're going, well, I
don't understand why she would twist your words,

524
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.119
right, She's because she's horrible.
That's why I do need to say

525
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.079
this for all fairness, though I
do love Katie. You know that people

526
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.000
come for me. I don't care. But she is wearing a very cheekos

527
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:29.880
looking jacket in the scene. Oh
my god. Yeah. First, she's

528
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.519
not a great dresser. I mean, that's fine, it's it's great.

529
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.719
I think I had that jacket.
I get it, like the pink and

530
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.760
brown I remember when Loman's was open. I would I bought so many of

531
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.679
those jackets. I get it.
They're comfy, they're you know, queer

532
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.880
to anything. Tim being whatever.
I do understand, but it was it

533
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.440
did take me out of the conversation
a few times because I was like,

534
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:55.760
what Anne with the mom the mom
cuts gated graduated Bob. I don't know

535
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.519
what it is about a graduated Bob, but my guy keeps trying these,

536
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.320
like your hairs thin, we can
make it look thicker with this graduated Bob.

537
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.039
I'm like, you say it one
more time. I'm gonna go somewhere

538
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.760
else. It's like two steps away
from the John and Kate plus eight there.

539
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.639
Okay, it's like, before you
know it, you're gonna just keep

540
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.119
going shorter in the back. That's
what I'm saying exactly. That it gets

541
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.760
thicker is it goes out like kind
of a mushroom, which is great.

542
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.719
A lot of people rock it.
I understand, it's not it's not in

543
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:27.000
this case. I feel Katie is
too young. She's yeah, but okay,

544
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.199
so Arianna, She's like, yeah, I try. I trust and

545
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.239
love Raquel. I mean, she's
one of my she's one of my closest

546
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.239
friends since when Okay, fine,
since you guys did a bunch of drugs

547
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.559
and hooked up in a jacuzzi right
a year ago, I guess, and

548
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.840
she's like, and I also trust
and love my boyfriend. M Okay,

549
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.719
yeah, you mean that's the same
boyfriend who cheated on Kristen, who he

550
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.320
was dating for almost seven years with
you. That's the boyfriend who also,

551
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:58.119
like I mean it to be fair, Kristen absolved her and watch what happened.

552
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.599
She's like, it's not the same, and I'm really good friends with

553
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.840
Arianna, and I don't want that
for her. So as as we learned

554
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.079
a couple of weeks ago, when
I went to Schwartz and Sandy's, my

555
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.000
intel was that Kristen is the nicest
of all of them. Right. I

556
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.280
don't think that's right. Don't see
that, but whatever, okay. Um.

557
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.079
So basically, Katie's like, uh, well, I hope she's a

558
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.239
good friend to you because she's also
kind of a whore. And then,

559
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:25.559
well, I can see how you
would feel that way. But she's amazing

560
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.920
sending to Katie. It's not ever
standing up for her, never saying like

561
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.840
I'm sorry. Well she does say
that, Arianna, and that point does

562
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.280
finally say if I were in your
shoes, I could I totally do see

563
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.079
it. But I love her,
So she kind of just immediately goes back.

564
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.599
It's like, yes, if it
were my ex, if it you

565
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:44.440
know, if it were me,
and she's going after me. I do

566
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.079
understand why you feel that way,
Katie, but I just think she's yeah,

567
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:51.000
amazing. So now James and roque
Hell sit down, and this is

568
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.960
where I was so annoyed, because
Roquell is so flirty with him and he

569
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:59.199
was kind of a hero. And
she's like, think he should apologize to

570
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:04.880
me. I can't believe you said
he regretted Rachella. Stop And I was

571
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.480
like, stop calling it Rachella,
you idiot. That's why I wrote to

572
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.960
stop it. She's so dumb.
Yes, James was he well he was.

573
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.840
He had a ship together in that
moment, right, And she's like,

574
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.920
he goes, I don't know you
anymore. That's why he's like,

575
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.880
I don't know you anymore. And
she's all offended. She's like, okay,

576
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.920
you think she's giving a Tony Robin
seminar. She's just like, I

577
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.639
just don't think he should have any
regrets in your life, right, And

578
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.480
he's like, well, like okay, he's trying. He's trying not to

579
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.280
pick a fight. He doesn't even
want to be having this conversation. He's

580
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.800
actually being very kind to her.
Yeah, but she just keeps going.

581
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.840
She's, I wrote, she's trying
so hard to flirt. She's kind of

582
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.679
crying. I said. She can't
take it if she has less than the

583
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.519
full attention from every guy in the
room, that's right, especially Yeah,

584
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.280
And he's like, Okay, look
whatever, regret, don't regret. I'm

585
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.920
just we're you're different. We weren't
meant to be together. Now we can

586
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.000
see that. And she can't admit
that, even though she's the one who

587
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.039
said in the first place, because
she was a be I'm not forgetting that.

588
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.880
James was abusive and terrible back then. He was, you know,

589
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.639
emotionally yelled at her. He was
mean to her. But like he's now,

590
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.239
she won't let it go. And
she's like, she, okay,

591
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:13.599
you're already you're fucking Tom Sandoval,
right, you want to Schwartz to right.

592
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.440
She wants every one of the guys
in the friend group to be head

593
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.360
over heels for her, and she
can't let him move on. She can't

594
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.880
let James move on to just be
with Ali. She has to keep going.

595
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.440
I know, but I don't regret
it. I don't regret saying yes

596
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.559
to your proposal. I have no
regrets. It's like and he's like part

597
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.280
of why great. Yeah, he's
like, all right, go on now,

598
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.559
not meant and Alie is his first
if if he can, if he

599
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.039
can land her forever. From what
I can see, he's done really well

600
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.679
because she's the only one that puts
him in his place. Yeah, she's

601
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.320
not going to break up with that
forever. No, So the goodie bags.

602
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.559
This is the part where really we're
near the end of this. Yes,

603
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:52.239
the goodie bag. When Arianna says, but she says out loud when

604
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:53.639
they're putting stuff in their goodie bag. She's like, I don't know how

605
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.679
I keep going sometimes because because her
grandmother, like you said, she's almost

606
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:01.360
four, right, and it is
sad we're not taking out. I love

607
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.760
my grandparents too. I loved them
very much. It's not ever easy to

608
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.400
lose someone in your family. I
get that. But like you're out of

609
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.239
part. You kept going. You
sure do have a smokey eye going.

610
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:14.199
Yeah, you're you're going enough that
you could, like, you know,

611
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.199
get into glam which you should.
That's great, you look great, but

612
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.960
also yeah, like I don't know
I just don't know all these things how

613
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.639
I keep going. It's like,
oh my god, So I didn't even

614
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.800
know how this last scene, I
was so on the edge of my seat

615
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:35.239
because Lala confrontation. Yes, Lala
tells Arianna, hey just thought you should

616
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.840
know that Tom didn't go home to
you like when your grandma died, because

617
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.880
he didn't feel like it, and
Arianna was like, hmmm, no,

618
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.559
that's not true. He didn't have
a ride, And then Lala is like,

619
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.079
yeah, he could have left with
Jason. And then Ariana, which

620
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:53.320
I was like, what is she
doing? She's like, no, I'm

621
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.599
not going to do this. I
Am not going to do this with you.

622
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.400
Tom come over here, Like what
did she think was going to happen?

623
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.800
I don't know. I don't like
why is she I mean, I

624
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.079
guess if she believes him, she
doesn't think there's I guess if that part's

625
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.639
true, then we just want she's
just trying to defend him, right and

626
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.960
wants those two to fight it out. Arianna is trying to help you girl,

627
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.599
right, I mean, la La
is trying to help you. Aria

628
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.320
is trying to help you exactly.
So then yeah, about leaving the party.

629
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.400
Then his mustache. Basically, the
mustache is talking. That's all I

630
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.599
see when he goes it's disgusting.
Yeah, it so gross, And he's

631
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:32.599
like, I don't know. Just
everything it's madness. Everything is an excuse.

632
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.360
So she's like, did you when
I called you and I told you

633
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.159
to come home and my grandma died, did you see Jason leave? And

634
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:45.239
he's like no, no, I
mean I mean I don't know. And

635
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.119
then she's like, could you have
left with Jason? And he goes,

636
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.000
I guess. It's like, oh
my gosh. She's not even trying to

637
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:59.920
be like kind about it. And
then I didn't you It's like, oh,

638
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.679
well, I just thought you would
need it some alone time. She's

639
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.760
like, okay, but I literally
asked you to please come home and be

640
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.159
with me. And he's like,
yeah, oh well I didn't. And

641
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.880
that is something I like about her. She doesn't like she does. She

642
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.760
does talk like she'll say it like
she sees it, and I do appreciate

643
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.880
that. She's like, yeah,
but I mean what that's bullshit. I'm

644
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.039
not going to let you say that
because I did ask you to come home.

645
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.679
So they're setting up that we're finally
she's finally seeing the light. Then

646
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.800
he's like, well, she does
say, well, why did you tell

647
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.199
me like you were in the bathroom
taking a shit whenson, But she said

648
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.719
that too. I do love that. And it's like he's like, I

649
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.639
don't know, he doesn't care,
he doesn't care. He's awful. And

650
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.960
she's starting to get it too.
And I want to be clear at the

651
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.920
end, now that we're nearing the
end here, like we don't it's not

652
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.679
Ariana Buggss for different reasons. We're
not blaming her for anything she went through.

653
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.519
He's the nightmare, he's the villain. We're not saying she deserves this

654
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:59.239
anywhere, but like, and I
mean, of course, and we know

655
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:01.400
you're not saying that, of course, but I just like, there's just

656
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.000
other things that bought She's not perfect. I hate the pedestal shit that these

657
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.920
shows do. Like, now this
thing has happened, so you're the one

658
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:13.599
we bow down to. Nobody's there's
real there's no real heroes here. She's

659
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.159
fine, by the way, she's
dating a fucking Yankee already. She's fine.

660
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.599
It doesn't take away the pain that
she went through. A Sandoval and

661
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.840
I you know, we've talked a
lot on our other shows about narcissism and

662
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:29.599
what that's like to go through stuff
like that. Not nothing, but in

663
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.760
the previews they're showing that Sandoval is
already trying to set it up that it's

664
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.039
her fault, which is why I
want to say this, because like he's

665
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:37.559
doing the same thing he did to
Kristen, which they talk about and watch

666
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:43.039
what happens right, which we should
just mention really quick, did you watch

667
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.159
any of that? I did.
He looked, she looks really good.

668
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.519
At the tanning, we could we
could slow down a little bit on the

669
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.599
tanning. Oh my god. It
was like, um, it was like,

670
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.519
um, Snookie, it's very snooky
and it's not. It doesn't.

671
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.159
I know it's lotion and that's great
whatever. But yeah, I didn't know

672
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.320
who the other the Broadway Star.
I felt like we didn't need her there

673
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.079
at all, the blonde lady.
Oh I didn't. Yeah. John came

674
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.039
in and he was like, who's
that? And I was, yeah,

675
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.039
I didn't know who cares. Nobody
cared, And I kept every time,

676
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:15.760
I just kept fast forwarding every time. I'm sure I know she's on Broadway

677
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.199
Star. I'm not trying to take
away like maybe she's amazing and Annalie Annalie

678
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.400
I think her name is, Yeah, But it was getting annoying because you

679
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.400
know that the show doesn't it's not
a it's not like everybody talks in a

680
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.760
circle. Like Andy asked specific questions
of Kristen, and that lady kept chiming

681
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.239
in, yeah, when she wasn't
asked, and that was annoying. There

682
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.039
wasn't really a lot of tea spilled
there because we've already just know everything.

683
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:43.280
I like that she's back. She
was kind of boring me though, Yeah,

684
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.079
it was boring. The only good
the only interesting thing she I mean,

685
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.679
of course she doesn't like sandaball.
Of course, she was yelling from

686
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.159
the rooftops that he was cheating the
whole time. It was interesting the James

687
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.480
stuff because you know, she dated
James. She's the one who brought James

688
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:59.239
into the group. Oh yeah,
that's how all that way back, Like,

689
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.039
that's how all that happened. And
when Sandoval started dating Ariana, she

690
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.960
just wanted a boyfriend. She basically
James was her satchel. She needed someone

691
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.199
real quick, and it was James. And he was terrible to her and

692
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.000
he did he was you know,
he was a bad boy right, bad

693
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.000
things. But it was interesting when
she was like somebody asked like, what

694
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.880
was he like, did you ever
date him when he was not drinking?

695
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.199
And she's like, he was never
not drinking. That's such a lie and

696
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.639
that was I was. I cringed
on that because I don't know if we

697
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.159
I don't know if that's appropriate or
is it or is it I mean why

698
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:36.960
not if yeah, I guess it's
sober and he wasn't. That's what she

699
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:38.840
was living with. I feel like
that's the first time that was ever really

700
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.119
called out because we've been I think
we have. I think I've said that

701
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.639
on the show where it's like because
he kept getting kicked out of you know,

702
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.639
his his thing See you Next Tuesday, DJ Knight because he was just

703
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.159
beating people up. He was getting
so drunk. He was like throwing shit

704
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:58.639
at people and so obviously he was
a liability and Lisa had to say,

705
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.920
now you fly it. But then
they would show these scenes and he'd like,

706
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.639
I'm so I'm going to meetings and
she'd take him back. But I

707
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.320
feel like all that was all none
of that real that. I don't know.

708
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.920
I don't know either, m Yeah, are we approaching, I mean,

709
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.239
is next week is it gonna Is
it gonna come out? I mean

710
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.480
I was looking at the timeline.
There's two more episode. There's one more

711
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.519
episode I think before the finale.
So we have next week, then the

712
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.840
finale, then we started the three
week reunion thing, which is really all

713
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.960
we want. Now, well,
I guess everybody don't Maybe it doesn't come

714
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:38.280
out in real time because didn't watch
What Happens live. Remember when they talked

715
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:43.000
about the fact that Lala said,
oh, there's going to be a conversation

716
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.320
in the finale where yeah, it's
not live, they watch what happened.

717
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:49.519
I mean, yeah, they're showing
the watch what happens. And now as

718
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.480
we watch back, no, no, no, I know. But remember

719
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.280
when Lala said, on watch what
happens? She said, there's a conversation

720
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:01.679
in the finale between between where Mariana
and Roquel have a conversation, and it's

721
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:07.960
just heartbreaking because she's just lying to
her face. Remember that. Yes,

722
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.159
maybe maybe she just didn't know when
the how they were going to edit it.

723
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.840
I don't know, I don't know
what the timeline is there, but

724
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.599
yeah, I mean I feel like
I feel like the problem is like having

725
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.719
it go so long that they really
could have cut like three episodes because we

726
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.159
already know, so we're ready to
see it, and we all we all

727
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.880
just want to reunion, right,
It's not just ridiculous, it's just a

728
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.400
whole show about Roquell's behavior. Yeah, and it's just really's getting exhausting.

729
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.159
We have two more full episodes before
the reunion, which is what we're here

730
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.800
for. And I just want to
end this this one with where is Satchel

731
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:44.920
is? He? Okay? Has
anyone checked on Satchel? Honestly? Somebody

732
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:51.280
you right now is doing their dishes
with his hair poor, grabbing their caraway

733
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.440
fry pay? Do they meet online? Do they ever say how they've met?

734
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:59.519
How did they match? What happened? I don't know? Where is

735
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:04.280
Satchel? You guys, look where
if you've taken nothing from this, from

736
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.800
this episode of what we're talking about, Like, let's look, I don't

737
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.440
love not so I know we don't
do milk car I mean amber alert?

738
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.280
Would that be appropriate? Right now? All of our foes just get you

739
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.519
know that you can't turn that off. It's so loud, right, and

740
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.320
then it's just like, where is
Satchel is Okay, I think it's needed,

741
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:29.320
not just to California Highway Patrol.
All Right, you guys, you

742
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.480
guys, we do, we love
you. We know. There's many podcasts

743
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:37.159
you can listen to on vander Pump, including The La La and everybody else.

744
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:38.079
But look, you know, we're
gonna have some different takes, and

745
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.320
you're gonna get mad at us,
and we're gonna get kicked out of groups.

746
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.920
But it is what it is.
It is all right, By bye.

747
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:47.000
Love is blind.

