Hey, everybody, it's the most fabulous time of the week. It's where
Rose Pricks takes on vander Pump Rules and I am here. It's me,
Stephanie Wilder Taylor. I'm here with Cecily Nobler and she La. I'm just
kidding, La La La LA's here. She lives with me now. She
needed a place with ocean. Why do you think she needed a place or
things not going that well for her? I don't know. It seems like
they're going all right, but I don't know. She just needed extra hands
on the baby. And I'm just really good with babies. Everyone knows that.
So I was like, move in, you know it, one bedroom.
I have a question, sure, wy, these people have babies.
Why do we never hear see or do you hear much about their babies.
In fact, when Shena got married, I felt like her baby was kind
of a weird accessory. It was almost like it was a stuffed animal that
she sort of like sometimes saw in the room when somebody else was attending to
it. There's my baby. It's very compartmentalized. It's really weird because occasionally
they'll do they'll be doing their drug. We'll get to that when they went
blamping or whatever. They're so fucking high on ecstasy. I don't know if
all of them, but for sure the sand of all Anaria, all of
them, i'd say. And then at the end of next morning, everybody's
just because like we got to get home to our baby. Who's watching your
baby? Right? The dog's watching the baby, So that's good. Well,
who's watching the dog? James? This episode, I thought last week's
episode was insane. This this episode was so infuriating. I cannot believe how
infuriating it was. Well, first of all, I had to watch the
whole thing twice. I did, I really did. I watched it.
I watched it last night sort of real time, and then I was a
little tipsy when I watched the rest of it, so I had totally different
thoughts than when I rewatched it this morning. And then I was like,
oh, I got all that wrong. Like last night, I was like,
James is the best you know? And I'm like, well, all
right, well let's calm down on that. I also got myself kicked out
of not whispering. But I've been on this message I got invited to this
scandal all message thread thing. Okay, whispering, and I've been on it
and I usually, I mean, I just read it. I don't usually
comment, but every now and then I get riled up and I comment something
about how like I don't think it's real. I don't believe it. It's
fake. It's fake. It's fake. And they finally just kicked me out
there they've had it. I think they kicked me out. I can't see
it now, so maybe maybe they didn't, but I would have kicked me
out too. At that point. I just won't stop saying it. I
mean, do you feel that well? I felt it when I said it,
like when I when I because I was like me, I mended at
the time. I was like, you're gonna get And I've said it on
the show and people always kind of get come for me. Not always,
but like I just there's just moments where people say, maybe it's a re
editing issue, but they're still claiming they didn't re edit this shit, and
I just part of me feels and this has been a theory. So I
don't know why I get in trouble, but the theories that everybody was in
on it. I mean, Arianna wanted out, they all wanted ratings.
It doesn't really make sense when I say it out loud, So it's like
I go back and forth on it. But there are just moments where the
acting is so bad that I just have a tough time believing it. I
don't know, maybe I don't know. Well, let's go through and you
can tell me parts that come up for you. Okay, so these make
your fonds go glamping. Let's start with that. Yeah, these idiots and
then this group group and Sheena, I like, I'm speiled. I like
it. I've never done that. Never. When did they even all become
friends? I know that they It's weird because we so Chris not to go
too far ahead, but and watch what happens comes back. Yea, that's
exciting. But like she all mentions like me and are are we're such good
friends? Like who are you? When did everyone? When did Ariana become
friends with fucking Roquel? When did Gina become friend with the Roquel? Like?
I watch pretty closely, and it's confusing that they're all such best friends,
which is kind of a clue, right, yeah, but yes,
right, I mean it's weird that it's real or clue that it's fake.
A clue that it's fake. I know this is like a weird friendship that
they're all standing up for her so much, like she's some kind of a
hero. She's so so aggressively dumb. She's so dumb, and I've said
that too from the beginning, and I was like, I always feel bad
about it. But she's not about manipulative. She's like a dumb, flirty,
boozy girl girl. She comes across as a girl like she's a teenager,
and they're all like, coming, God, she's amazing. It's like,
what is amazing about her? Tell me one thing? It's like interesting.
All she does is flirt with everybody and all the crop tops with little
triangles cut out, Like how many crop tops with little triangles cut out can
one person have? That she's wearing these little I know that's in I just
like I know it's because so I can be an example to like the girls.
I just want to be a pack son, roll a model. I
just say something about pack son No oh me of my daughter's friends like that's
what they do. They're just like, oh my god, I just got
the cutest new halftop at pack soon. Right, It's a lot of it's
a lot of in all like weird, you know, asymmetrical the necklines and
it's cute. It was cute, like get two of those. Remember that
show What Not to Wear? Remember the show with stay Okay, of course
there were two versions. Well, that was one of their bigges. I've
made this mistake too. I have multiples. If I like a shirt and
it comes in a couple of colors, sometimes I'll buy it in Boca.
But they say not to do that. Not. I don't know why.
It's such a dumb rule, but Roquell really needs to take a page out
of that, like you can have too. You cannot have fifteen of different
shirts that are exactly the same. I won't have it. And then I'm
going to have an opinion sure coming in coming in late and hot okay,
okay, that you're not gonna like. I'll like it. But I don't
like Ariana either. I mean, well, you're not alone here with you?
Oh god is she's such a freaking dragonsaurus. It's like he is,
well, that's what see. But then that back Sandoval a little. That's
what he's been saying. No, but I don't. I don't agree that
Sandoval should be acting like a dick and right cheating on her break up with
her. But I can also understand why their relationship is. I mean,
I wouldn't want to hang around with Ariana for lunch, let alone, like
be in a relationship with her. Oh my god, I had this.
Okay, we're gonna get to that too, because all right, so Lala
has an office. Let's go to her, like why does she have an
office? Now, she didn't need an office. She's a nice enough place.
She has an extra bedroom, she doesn't need a whole office. I
didn't even do a photos. I didn't even yeah, oh wait where oh
wait that was when? So well, first they're showing the office when James
comes by and they're doing like they're doing the weird fun but you skipped all
you skipped so much stuff. No no, no, it goes back and
forth. I just do it in order, so like it shows them,
then it goes to Lalla, and then it goes back to the glamping.
There's just the Lalla has an office. You probably didn't even notice because it's
just the tiniest little thing. Okay, I just I'm going straight up in
order because we're gonna go back. Yeah, we're gonna go back to La
La and James talking, okay, but I still I have something to say
about the smashing pumpkins thing. Oh god, like everybody's smashing a pumpkin.
And then Ariana is like, like her personality doesn't even have this strength to
throw a pumpkin. This is when I was like, oh my god,
what stay home girl. She's like like, I'm doing an arm motion that
you can't really see, and then she kind of throws the pumpkin as if
it's like a bowling ball, as if it's that heavy and it just rolls.
And I was like, girl, I mean I could kind of relate
to that because I don't like to lift things. I have a hard time
opening jars. I get it, but it's it was What hit me later
was when way later in the episode, is you know when everyone's hugging Arianna
that nobody knows yet allegedly they're starting to know, but Arianna doesn't know everyone's
hugging her, and they're and they're like, you've had such a year,
and I'll just get because to your point when Katie, Katie's gone through a
lot too, but everyone has to be like, oh, your grandmother died.
I mean, yeah, it's awful. But like Katie, Katie fell
through like a glass table and had her face completely like torn up and had
to have reconstructive surgery completely on her face. Also she went through a really
awful public divorce like she's also and she also lost people that have died,
like you know, I don't know. I feel like it's this, this
this narrative about Arianna about she's like, oh, she's just been through it.
It's like, okay, we all we all have yeah, and I'm
a bad person. But the grandma dying stuff, It's like, Okay,
your grandma was probably in her nineties, right, Like, let's face it,
like that's kind of life. You didn't lose a child or even a
parent, right, Well, she did lose a parent, but you know,
ten years ago. But it's still saying But I'm not saying, I'm
saying this thing that she's going through where everybody has to like rally around her
like you lost your grandma? I mean, cold does she? I freaking
how old? She is? Probably in her late thirties. Let me ask
who? Do I ask? How old is Ariana Maddox? We never say
their last names? Oh now It just picked me up saying that okay,
okay, okay, so now we need to we need to break down this
whole convoluted story where I and it made me laugh because I thought of Ronnie
Caram doing his impression of Ken rolling in what do you mean when Lalla is
talking to James? But also like what about the right when Lalla's talking to
James? And then we do all these flashbacks right, which one of them
was Satchell in the flashback, So it stayed on Satchel for so long.
I laughed out loud so many times. The editors really knew what they were
doing with Satchel there, because Satchel is nowhere to be found in this episode
except for those flashbacks. And yes, Ken coming out and he's like,
what don't you think it's so weird that um sat in the vall and what
slept together in the jacuzzi and then he just goes off and then he just
rolls away, and then I picture talking on one of those things, one
of those chairs, motorized chairs that take you upstairs, like if you have
stairs in your house, Like I've just picture him sitting on one of those
as it slowly carts him up the stairs and his voice it's more and more
far away. Oh my gosh, yes, like a Doppler effect, like
yes, yeah. Oh, by the way, Arianne's thirty seven. So
yeah, I mean I lost my last grandparent. I mean I got you
know, unfortunately I lost them early. But the last name was nineteen and
we were really really close. You and I have mom issues, so you
know, the grandparents kind of they were important in that way. And uh,
but yeah, that was a long time ago. You're lucky if you
make it to almost forty. That is where there's just not a tragedy when
you lose I'm gonna just say it, and it comes for me, I
don't care. It is not a tragedy that requires people to just crowd around
you and start a meal train and like understand everything that you're going through when
you lose a grandparent. Now, that is not to say that Sandoval shouldn't
have come the fuck home. Oh I'm that party. That's that's a separate
issue. Your girlfriend is going through something, it doesn't matter what it is.
But I'm just saying that all of this talk about oh my god,
Ariyanna and she's so much just happened to her, not really, I know,
this is what I'm saying. That's the thing, Like Katie doesn't ever
get a break, right, and Katie's having to hug her and going,
god, you've just been through so much. It's like no one ever hugs
Katy and says that, and she has right. And Katie's recent ex husband
is like date trying to actively outwardly date one of your friends, and nobody
can even divorced yet, and Ariana doesn't care. She never stands up for
her. No, nobody is going, like, you know what, Katie,
that is absolutely fucked up and not. Okay, yeah, no one's
really saying that exactly, except they do, little bit James because for a
different reason. But yeah, different reason though, Oh my god. Okay,
So then yeah, that's I think when I saw that, the sort
of bat you know, the flashbacks during that scene, I think that's when
I wrote on my little weird thing about this is fake, and I think
that's when I got kicked out. Okay. So, so basically, this
story, in case you guys aren't watching the show and just coming to us
for your soul recapping, telling you what happened needs, this story comes out
about how Roquell slept over at Sandoval's house because she got drunk. They were
all partying, and then she got drunk and then somehow came over and she
and Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval were in a hot tub together, and then
Schwartz left, and then the whole thing is how Sandoval's like, yeah,
and then she dipped, yeah, but then she didn't. But then she
didn't dip. Well, what he meant by dipped, apparently is dipped up
to his bedroom. Yeah, dipped up onto his you know what, right,
I don't know, yah exactly dipped up on ma coq. I just
gonna say that. But I was like, it's a family show, and
so I stopped myself. But you know what I thought it was. I
thought this was a g rating. I don't know if people know this.
We have to get ratings for a podcast now. So Roquehell telling Lisa,
Oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so late, and then just the lies,
the lies, lies, lies, just watching it this very Rachel comes
to work late and by the way, every everybody, all these people are
like oh yeah, and then you know, Roquel looked like a bag of
shit. It's like, oh, I'd love to look like a bag of
shit. That the Roquell was wearing her cute little vander pump, her sir
or whatever, a little sleek, little black dress. She was in full
makeup and her hair was done. Yeah, that's a That's what I was
like. This seems fake. They're all like, oh yeah, and you
look like crap. No, she didn't. And Lisa's a bad actress.
She's a terrible actress. Terrible Kyle. Kyle is also a bad actress.
There's so many you know, you know what it is. They're not actors.
Oh Kyle is? I guess, yeah, as she was at one
time. But like, I'm just going back to those days where I was
like, Lisa can't you know, she can't pull one over because she's such
a bullshit. Of course, she's planting these stories and page sex. Of
course, right, somebody is it's Bravo. Somebody's doing it. But Lisa's
part of it. So Raquel admits that she slept over. The reason why
she's so tired and looks horrible is that she slept over at Sandoval's house on
the couch. Every the story keeps changing, so the Lisa Vanderpump calls Tom
Sandoval and oh my god, he I himno stand him, not just because
of the cheating. His personality is so he's so fake. Yeah, like
the way he treats women. He does the thing where he like put he's
a total narcissist. He puts these people on a pedestal, which he did
with Ariana in the beginning. He then devalues the last person. It's textbook.
We've talked about it. He did it to Kristen. He devalued her,
and Ariana was the son in the Moon of the Stars. Then he
cheated on her for ten years. Then he devalues Ariana, and then Raquel
is the son in the Moon Stars. It's like, I mean he does
it. He does take a long time. Usually narcissists like cycle through within
a few six months. Yeah, he's just don't angry. He's an angry
person and he's angry at women. And I can't every time he opens his
mouth, I'm like, oh god, this is all I Know's it gets
worse and worse, And so is this When they go to a smoking there's
a smoke. Oh yeah, he James and Sandoval go to like a pot
smoking lounge. Why would you even why. I don't know. I didn't
even understand that point of that kind just wrote your own house, I know.
Why do you have to go to a designated pot smoking place? It's
legal, guys, right, like very legal, like recreationally legal. Like
oh that was so we had to fly to India so we could like weell
it on this show. It's real legal. It's great. It's real legal,
y'all. Yeah, it's real legal. Curiously, it's awesome. So
do you don't have to do a full weird thing where they're Yeah, they're
in like some kind of speakeasy, like though we're good, by the way,
we want to speakeasy. And we had some drinks with alcohol in them.
Yea. Everywhere you go you could just buy it. You could go
to Trader Joe's. Yeah, very easily. There was a speakeasy when I
was in New York a couple weeks ago, and it was just like underground
and there was no sign and you had and I'm like, and there was
nothing different about it. It was just drinking, right, Like, why
are we calling you guys? Oh, we're playing a little game. This
is a game, Alanna, Okay, so these worst actors, this is
that's when they mentioned the Memorial Day thing so that he didn't come back.
They've mentioned it before, and I have, um, I have a little
sound up for you. Oh yes, so this is this is so James
is recounting Sandoval saying that Roquell slept over, but then she didn't really sleep
over, but she kind of slept over. So here listen to this ready,
yeah, grass, and I'm like, we're called down and so obviously
like chores, were we spend the ninth for dogs are there or whatever?
Well? Yeah, left, she literally went into my mut room or whatever,
not my room, my guest she went to you know, she dipped
Well, oh I thought that, you know, she went to my room,
I mean not my room, you know, a guest room. I
mean that was the most stuttery Yeah, bullshit, bullshitty, And that was
practiced. It's stuttery and still probably been done. You know, they're filming.
So that was probably the fifteenth time they said it. But I love
that James is like, wha. That's when I wrote that James was the
MVP of the episode. Yeah, when he goes waw. But the thing
is, that's also when I still feel it's fake, Like they're having a
fake conversation, and James already fu knows he knows, right because like believe
me, and he's maybe the best actor of all of them. But you
can even tell when he's in calm mode, when he's sober and having conversations.
I'd i'd actually really enjoy him. No, yeah, I didn't mind
him this episode. And now it's just when he whatever, Okay, so
that's mad. Lama is now like what the fuck? Yes, and now
we all find out about this Labor Day party. Memorial Day, I think,
but yes, it doesn't matter, same Memorial Day. So that would
have been a year ago, right, m I was get Labor Day in
Memorial Day? Confused ones in September and ones in May. Yeah, Memorial
Days in May. So a year so a year ago. There was there
was a party and Eric that's the way Arianna's grandma died and when she called
Tom he didn't Then he didn't leave for another two hours, saying you couldn't
get an uber, which is not a thing. That's not a thing.
You can always get an uber. It's Los Angeles, right, So now
La La feels like she cracked the code. So she's like she says,
and then James is like, she says, I think Tom has a thing
for Arianna. I mean, not for Arianna, and James is like,
wow, I'm making him like he's an Oliver. Well thanks, so I'll
clean the chimney now, James, you've lived in this country all the way
since like junior high. He is weird that his accents so strong. By
the way, somebody dug up on whispering. I don't know it's real or
not, but they dug up his high school yearbook, which is here.
He was here, and uh, I mean you know that's well. I
guess he's so young. It's not that long. I'm not sure when he
moved here, but I don't know that the accent should still be so strong.
Say I agree anyway. So then Sina, at one point I just
wrote this down, basically says like Triana, like, how's your dead grandmother?
But it's like everyone's like, how are you like again? Acting like
okay, all right, Sandoval fake cries At this point, I'm back.
I am back at the glamping trip, where Ariana looks just so frumpy.
Everybody's dressed like slutty, except for Arianna is wearing this weird, like oversized,
like highish collar, pink shirt and like a polka dot sun hat.
I just wrote she looks she looks like an older lady in Miami Beach,
Like she just stands out in this group no makeup. Everyone else is made
up. Arianna is just like I give up, like I'm in my late
thirties, doesn't matter anymore, like which I would do too, might keep
it together. I mean, I like that. I like that aspect of
her, but I know what you mean. It comes off weird. You're
on a TV show and now you got Roquell going like I just love being
the youngest. Oh my god that oh god, was that at the lamping?
That was lamping? That's right? She does say that. Oh yeah,
she's like and then she doesn't otf about how like this is like so
great, Like everybody's so nice to me, Like everybody's like like treats me
like so great in this group, like these are all my like really good
friends. Okay, I think I have this later because there's some stuff that
happens before that. It doesn't matter. We'll get we'll skip to that.
But I did. I did write this down. I was like, should
we be investing in um like give them La La products, and then I
wrote I feel like it's a no. So that okay, so we got
that hold on. Oh oh when Lalla says she's like this shit, I
mean, I've got to put I've got to have my business because this If
Ocean ever wants to go to college, this is how she's gonna go to
college. It's like, no, I feel like Randall's probably gonna pay for
Like, let's look, we hate Randall. I'm not saying like I'm team
in any way, but he's he'll he's got the money, he'll put the
kid through college. Oh yeah, I mean that she's trying to pretend like
she's completely a single one, like no money, she's nothing, nothing but
right when well, to be fair, though she didn't marry him, but
of course he's going to put his kid through it's his kid. Though it
doesn't matter if she married him, then she doesn't get like alimony. But
she's on a TV show, so somebody, I just want to mention something
that happened right before that. And I know we're going to go over this
a lot. Uh you know, well not for a lot a lot because
we're almost done but where they're still at the glamping trip. Uh, they're
Sandoval admits he tells the thing, but in front of Ariana he's They all
ask what happened over the weekend, which seems really set up, and then
Roquel tells aria how she, oh, I slept over and Sandoval is like,
I mean on the couch, but then I told her to take the
bedroom. And Arianna is not bothered by this whatsoever. This is what I
wrote too, I said this conbo is completely in front of her. It
feels really stilted in fake, and this is why I get in trouble,
because it doesn't seem to bother her. And then they do a flashback to
Sandoval lying to all the guys about her staying over, and everyone is laughing
about it, like, oh my god, that is such a silly goose
fib what no, biggie, This is like, Okay, imagine if you
were watching like a thriller. Okay, you're watching a movie and it's an
hour and a half ninety minute thriller and you figure out sometimes it happens,
you get lucky, and you're like, that guy did it. It's so
obvious that guy did it right, So then you have to watch, but
you have to get through this hour and a half because you're like, oh
my god. And finally at the end, yeah, that guy did it.
You'renew right right. This feels like that Betimes one hundred because we're having
to watch this for fifteen thousand hours about like our everyone knowing except our Rina.
It's ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
And now I'm just like, all right, already, get to the
get to the part of the show yes in the season where they know,
because this is now just stupid. It's so frustrating. Before we get back
fully to the clamping part of that Laalaw conversation with Katie is they're bringing up
the it's important later about the open relationship that comes up. They're flashback into
that again about how you know, it's been sort of said that maybe they're
kind of open, which Arianna says is not true. That's what she says.
I believe it, but someone brings up the Dawn and Satchel in that
point, I just wrote, no, not the Dawn and Satchel. They
just keep bringing them up and they're never going to show them again. I
don't think, But I wrote also, I do also believe, even though
she's saying otherwise, I kind of believe that it was probably a little open.
I think it's not supposed to be open when she's not fair. I
think that's maybe the distinction. I think it's not supposed to be that he's
supposed to go fall in love and have a secret affair. But I think
that the three of them hooked up. This is just what I think.
Yet, Madamie, come for me. I don't care. This is are
we At the part where Shena is telling Arianna that Katie insinuated that they she
and taught me, Yeah that was I mean, and she and is like,
I just think it's so fucked up that she would even talk about it.
M Like, she talks about everything all the time. That's all Shena
does is talk shit about everything. Right, So then okay, So at
the thing I was so disgusted when they're talking at that they're back glamping and
they have the invite in, Schwartz is like, should I we know Katie's
going to be there? Should I bring Roquell? And then then he kind
of becomes like a decent person for a second. Is like, no,
that's wrong. I'm not going to do that, and she's like why why
is it wrong? Roquell is like she's incited. Yeah, she is a
stupid demon. Yes, and everybody laughs about it during that dinner, they're
all sitting around and they're like, oh my god, yeah, Roquell has
a type and she's like, oh, they're like men who are taken.
Man. Oh, that's the joke. But what about when when Ariana says
like, she's I mean, why how is this your best friend? Ariana's
actually, I will give her this. She's very smart, she's funny,
she's not like she's she's better than all this. So when she says too,
when she said she's like, well, I can you still do pageants?
Like why are you? Why are you lowering yourself for this conversation?
You don't care if she can do pageants or not. And then she's like,
I've aged out of pageants. That's when it was the big dream to
be a role I just want to be. Yeah, well or they weren't
they going to extend the age limit. Yeah, I don't think that's going
to happen, And I just wanted to My dream was to be model and
Miss California. I just was gonna be Miss California and really like teach young
like shy girls like myself, like how to be a better lady. Since
I'm not going to be in pageants, I don't have to be moral.
I don't have to be moral now. Yeah, I don't have to be
a person anymore. So watch out, bitches. She is a psychopath.
And then thank you her VERSACEI so glasses together as a These were from me
and Arianna stand the ball we got and she's like, oh my god,
I love you guys. And then Arianna is like, you know, she's
just so admirable, like you going through that breakup with James and then just
getting over it and being ute. That's role model behavior. Oh my god,
did Arianna say that? Yes? Oh I can't. I just I
can't. Then there's like a Love Island crossover. I don't know if you
got that one. China was like, I got a text that's from Love
Island. Oh. When they get a text from like the producers that something's
happening, it's like a Big Brother thing. Okay, we got a clue,
we got a thing. So that's what that was. So they get
a text for that. I guess ruck hell is allowed to go to the
party, the dumb fucking party that they're gonna have, I know. And
were you like, oh my god, why are you so sad about not
being invited to a launch? I pray to not be invited to people's like
product launches. It's no different than getting invited to like an MLM like product
party. Do you want to party? Yes, you have to buy all
their crap? Right, yeah, she wants to go because she doesn't even
understand what it is. She's like a party and like people are gonna be
there, ooh new body wash. Can't wait. I'm sure this is really
different. I mean, at least when Lisa they take up those like springs
some tone around her face, she was like, m yeah, you could
tell she but she doesn't ever show anything anyway. I told you what I
met her at, Sir. My boyfriend at the time was like, I
went to some very good friends with your son in law. I know your
daughter. This is my girlfriend. She loves the show. This was so
long ago that like Lisa should have been thrilled. Not everybody loved the show
yet, right, And she was just like hello, I mean it was
insane. Her face didn't move like it was just scary. It was kind
of scary. I cannot express at this moment. This is what I said
earlier. How high when they were all in the tent and they're like,
have glow sticks and they show it. They give her her little glow room
or whatever. They're so high, all of them, And that's fine.
I'm not judging that. I just know. I just know what it looks
like. Look, I'm just gonna say it. I know what it looks
like to be on Molly, and they're all very high. And that's another
reason I think that they all hooked up. Right, we called it ecstasy
in our time, but whatever. We does tell a story later about how
she was in the back of a car, like, oh yeah, yeah,
that was. They showed that many seas. They didn't show them hooking
up, but that was. That was a major plot point many seasons ago.
They hooked up. Yeah, and Arianna was like, you know,
don't don't shame me because I'm by But it was like, no one shaming
you because you're by there, but you have a boyfriend, right, that's
the thing. So is it open? That's why the question always sort of
came about where, yeah, they did hook up, and I kind of
loved it. I loved that Lolla hooked up with her instead of like Sanda
Ball or some shit. You know. I also love Katie's mom. I
love how supportive Katie's mom has always been throughout all these seasons you missed.
You may have missed a few seasons, but when they would show Katie's mom
compared to Stace's mom, who was kind of a night and James's mom,
there are a few bad mothers, and so they would kind of show it
on the show, and you're just like, oh, thank God for Katie's
I do. I do not like how Tom Schwartz like storms in and he's
like, you mean at the party, yeah, and he offers Katie and
her mom drinks, and then then he says to the camera he's always like
preemptively mad. He's like, Katie's giving me the biggest cold shoulder. It's
like, start approaching her, I know, leave her alone, leave she's
with her mother. I hated that. I really hated that too. But
before that was the James Alley conversation, and that's when I was saying,
like, I think I mentioned this but James sober Is really has so much
potential. I really get sad when I see that, because it's like,
he really is a good I can see why these women kind of fall for
him because he plays that game where he can be really really awful, but
he's going to fix sale, fix you right, terrible and tear you down.
But he's I'm going to fix you, which is a terrible thing for
people. And I love the Alley so strong. She's the old the first
one I've seen come along that just doesn't take. It's like, sit down,
take all the seats. And I believe him when he says he's not
into Rockell. I actually believe him at this I don't at this point,
I think he isn't. Yeah, but Rob helped me a while. Comes
into this party. She's worry right, black like parachute pants kind of thing
like Michael Jackson pants, sure, but with a thong coming out of the
top of the back, like it's two thousand and four, right, And
I missed that. I missed it. And then up to Tom Schwartz and
she's like, can you get me, madam better if I drink? I
was like, He's like, well, I have to make it and she's
like, oh no, no, yeah, doesn't make it. It's me
vakatatic. She flirts so hard with every single one of the guys. It's
just like this desperate for attention, and I don't understand how poor Katie is
the only one that sees it. I know, and every time someone's like,
what doesn't see it? I think Katie's mom is like, oh,
thanks, honey, you know how I like it, Like, hey,
hey, Katie's mom, don't you don't have to be that nice to Schwartz.
But oh, all of the all of the friends are like, Roquels
so nice. She doesn't she means well. And then next scene is like,
you know, basically Roquel throwing herself at Schwartz, throwing herself at James,
throwing herself. She's just constantly needing validation from these guys. But when
Katie's like, you, guys, she's a fucking ho, They're like,
oh my god, how dare you? I know, I feel I just
want to hug Katie every day all day. And Arianna pulls Katie like it's
the like the Bachelor, right, pull you for a second, pull you
a second, and then she's like yeah, okay. Oh, she pulls
Katie because she has to because they're opening their sandwich shop, which we're all
going to go to. You and I will go, of course. So
really I'm doing it for Katie because I think Ariana is fine. I think
Katie's the one seeing Satchel hanging around. I think Katie's the one that needs
our support right now. Okay, I wrote down the conversation. Do you
want to to play a role, sure, I'd love to. Okay,
do you want to be Ariana or Katie? Um? I will be Arianna
because I feel like she says less and I don't remember exactly what they say.
Okay. So Katie's like, listen, I mean nothing was really said
to James. She's like, I mean okay. So then I think Katie
is basically like, well, I she's telling her about sandaball right, tell
well, I heard that Tom and Raquel were out dancing at the abbey alone,
and Ali was like, well, what's up with that? So I
told her, your relationship is like, you know, kind of like more
like unconventional. How is it unconventional? It's not unconventional. I've never said
that. I never said that. Yeah. Well, she also says,
She's like, but you said to Ali that we don't have rules and anything's
okay unless it embarrasses me. Okay, Katie goes, first of all,
I never said the word rules or embarrassed. Right, yeah, I love
that she kind of hides that. I mean we all and then and then
Arian was like, I trust in love, I trust and love Roquel.
She goes, she twist your words. Though. It's like, okay,
so right there, you're basically a blaming Katie. You're saying she's lying,
like you're going, well, I don't understand why she would twist your words,
right, She's because she's horrible. That's why I do need to say
this for all fairness, though I do love Katie. You know that people
come for me. I don't care. But she is wearing a very cheekos
looking jacket in the scene. Oh my god. Yeah. First, she's
not a great dresser. I mean, that's fine, it's it's great.
I think I had that jacket. I get it, like the pink and
brown I remember when Loman's was open. I would I bought so many of
those jackets. I get it. They're comfy, they're you know, queer
to anything. Tim being whatever. I do understand, but it was it
did take me out of the conversation a few times because I was like,
what Anne with the mom the mom cuts gated graduated Bob. I don't know
what it is about a graduated Bob, but my guy keeps trying these,
like your hairs thin, we can make it look thicker with this graduated Bob.
I'm like, you say it one more time. I'm gonna go somewhere
else. It's like two steps away from the John and Kate plus eight there.
Okay, it's like, before you know it, you're gonna just keep
going shorter in the back. That's what I'm saying exactly. That it gets
thicker is it goes out like kind of a mushroom, which is great.
A lot of people rock it. I understand, it's not it's not in
this case. I feel Katie is too young. She's yeah, but okay,
so Arianna, She's like, yeah, I try. I trust and
love Raquel. I mean, she's one of my she's one of my closest
friends since when Okay, fine, since you guys did a bunch of drugs
and hooked up in a jacuzzi right a year ago, I guess, and
she's like, and I also trust and love my boyfriend. M Okay,
yeah, you mean that's the same boyfriend who cheated on Kristen, who he
was dating for almost seven years with you. That's the boyfriend who also,
like I mean it to be fair, Kristen absolved her and watch what happened.
She's like, it's not the same, and I'm really good friends with
Arianna, and I don't want that for her. So as as we learned
a couple of weeks ago, when I went to Schwartz and Sandy's, my
intel was that Kristen is the nicest of all of them. Right. I
don't think that's right. Don't see that, but whatever, okay. Um.
So basically, Katie's like, uh, well, I hope she's a
good friend to you because she's also kind of a whore. And then,
well, I can see how you would feel that way. But she's amazing
sending to Katie. It's not ever standing up for her, never saying like
I'm sorry. Well she does say that, Arianna, and that point does
finally say if I were in your shoes, I could I totally do see
it. But I love her, So she kind of just immediately goes back.
It's like, yes, if it were my ex, if it you
know, if it were me, and she's going after me. I do
understand why you feel that way, Katie, but I just think she's yeah,
amazing. So now James and roque Hell sit down, and this is
where I was so annoyed, because Roquell is so flirty with him and he
was kind of a hero. And she's like, think he should apologize to
me. I can't believe you said he regretted Rachella. Stop And I was
like, stop calling it Rachella, you idiot. That's why I wrote to
stop it. She's so dumb. Yes, James was he well he was.
He had a ship together in that moment, right, And she's like,
he goes, I don't know you anymore. That's why he's like,
I don't know you anymore. And she's all offended. She's like, okay,
you think she's giving a Tony Robin seminar. She's just like, I
just don't think he should have any regrets in your life, right, And
he's like, well, like okay, he's trying. He's trying not to
pick a fight. He doesn't even want to be having this conversation. He's
actually being very kind to her. Yeah, but she just keeps going.
She's, I wrote, she's trying so hard to flirt. She's kind of
crying. I said. She can't take it if she has less than the
full attention from every guy in the room, that's right, especially Yeah,
And he's like, Okay, look whatever, regret, don't regret. I'm
just we're you're different. We weren't meant to be together. Now we can
see that. And she can't admit that, even though she's the one who
said in the first place, because she was a be I'm not forgetting that.
James was abusive and terrible back then. He was, you know,
emotionally yelled at her. He was mean to her. But like he's now,
she won't let it go. And she's like, she, okay,
you're already you're fucking Tom Sandoval, right, you want to Schwartz to right.
She wants every one of the guys in the friend group to be head
over heels for her, and she can't let him move on. She can't
let James move on to just be with Ali. She has to keep going.
I know, but I don't regret it. I don't regret saying yes
to your proposal. I have no regrets. It's like and he's like part
of why great. Yeah, he's like, all right, go on now,
not meant and Alie is his first if if he can, if he
can land her forever. From what I can see, he's done really well
because she's the only one that puts him in his place. Yeah, she's
not going to break up with that forever. No, So the goodie bags.
This is the part where really we're near the end of this. Yes,
the goodie bag. When Arianna says, but she says out loud when
they're putting stuff in their goodie bag. She's like, I don't know how
I keep going sometimes because because her grandmother, like you said, she's almost
four, right, and it is sad we're not taking out. I love
my grandparents too. I loved them very much. It's not ever easy to
lose someone in your family. I get that. But like you're out of
part. You kept going. You sure do have a smokey eye going.
Yeah, you're you're going enough that you could, like, you know,
get into glam which you should. That's great, you look great, but
also yeah, like I don't know I just don't know all these things how
I keep going. It's like, oh my god, So I didn't even
know how this last scene, I was so on the edge of my seat
because Lala confrontation. Yes, Lala tells Arianna, hey just thought you should
know that Tom didn't go home to you like when your grandma died, because
he didn't feel like it, and Arianna was like, hmmm, no,
that's not true. He didn't have a ride, And then Lala is like,
yeah, he could have left with Jason. And then Ariana, which
I was like, what is she doing? She's like, no, I'm
not going to do this. I Am not going to do this with you.
Tom come over here, Like what did she think was going to happen?
I don't know. I don't like why is she I mean, I
guess if she believes him, she doesn't think there's I guess if that part's
true, then we just want she's just trying to defend him, right and
wants those two to fight it out. Arianna is trying to help you girl,
right, I mean, la La is trying to help you. Aria
is trying to help you exactly. So then yeah, about leaving the party.
Then his mustache. Basically, the mustache is talking. That's all I
see when he goes it's disgusting. Yeah, it so gross, And he's
like, I don't know. Just everything it's madness. Everything is an excuse.
So she's like, did you when I called you and I told you
to come home and my grandma died, did you see Jason leave? And
he's like no, no, I mean I mean I don't know. And
then she's like, could you have left with Jason? And he goes,
I guess. It's like, oh my gosh. She's not even trying to
be like kind about it. And then I didn't you It's like, oh,
well, I just thought you would need it some alone time. She's
like, okay, but I literally asked you to please come home and be
with me. And he's like, yeah, oh well I didn't. And
that is something I like about her. She doesn't like she does. She
does talk like she'll say it like she sees it, and I do appreciate
that. She's like, yeah, but I mean what that's bullshit. I'm
not going to let you say that because I did ask you to come home.
So they're setting up that we're finally she's finally seeing the light. Then
he's like, well, she does say, well, why did you tell
me like you were in the bathroom taking a shit whenson, But she said
that too. I do love that. And it's like he's like, I
don't know, he doesn't care, he doesn't care. He's awful. And
she's starting to get it too. And I want to be clear at the
end, now that we're nearing the end here, like we don't it's not
Ariana Buggss for different reasons. We're not blaming her for anything she went through.
He's the nightmare, he's the villain. We're not saying she deserves this
anywhere, but like, and I mean, of course, and we know
you're not saying that, of course, but I just like, there's just
other things that bought She's not perfect. I hate the pedestal shit that these
shows do. Like, now this thing has happened, so you're the one
we bow down to. Nobody's there's real there's no real heroes here. She's
fine, by the way, she's dating a fucking Yankee already. She's fine.
It doesn't take away the pain that she went through. A Sandoval and
I you know, we've talked a lot on our other shows about narcissism and
what that's like to go through stuff like that. Not nothing, but in
the previews they're showing that Sandoval is already trying to set it up that it's
her fault, which is why I want to say this, because like he's
doing the same thing he did to Kristen, which they talk about and watch
what happens right, which we should just mention really quick, did you watch
any of that? I did. He looked, she looks really good.
At the tanning, we could we could slow down a little bit on the
tanning. Oh my god. It was like, um, it was like,
um, Snookie, it's very snooky and it's not. It doesn't.
I know it's lotion and that's great whatever. But yeah, I didn't know
who the other the Broadway Star. I felt like we didn't need her there
at all, the blonde lady. Oh I didn't. Yeah. John came
in and he was like, who's that? And I was, yeah,
I didn't know who cares. Nobody cared, And I kept every time,
I just kept fast forwarding every time. I'm sure I know she's on Broadway
Star. I'm not trying to take away like maybe she's amazing and Annalie Annalie
I think her name is, Yeah, But it was getting annoying because you
know that the show doesn't it's not a it's not like everybody talks in a
circle. Like Andy asked specific questions of Kristen, and that lady kept chiming
in, yeah, when she wasn't asked, and that was annoying. There
wasn't really a lot of tea spilled there because we've already just know everything.
I like that she's back. She was kind of boring me though, Yeah,
it was boring. The only good the only interesting thing she I mean,
of course she doesn't like sandaball. Of course, she was yelling from
the rooftops that he was cheating the whole time. It was interesting the James
stuff because you know, she dated James. She's the one who brought James
into the group. Oh yeah, that's how all that way back, Like,
that's how all that happened. And when Sandoval started dating Ariana, she
just wanted a boyfriend. She basically James was her satchel. She needed someone
real quick, and it was James. And he was terrible to her and
he did he was you know, he was a bad boy right, bad
things. But it was interesting when she was like somebody asked like, what
was he like, did you ever date him when he was not drinking?
And she's like, he was never not drinking. That's such a lie and
that was I was. I cringed on that because I don't know if we
I don't know if that's appropriate or is it or is it I mean why
not if yeah, I guess it's sober and he wasn't. That's what she
was living with. I feel like that's the first time that was ever really
called out because we've been I think we have. I think I've said that
on the show where it's like because he kept getting kicked out of you know,
his his thing See you Next Tuesday, DJ Knight because he was just
beating people up. He was getting so drunk. He was like throwing shit
at people and so obviously he was a liability and Lisa had to say,
now you fly it. But then they would show these scenes and he'd like,
I'm so I'm going to meetings and she'd take him back. But I
feel like all that was all none of that real that. I don't know.
I don't know either, m Yeah, are we approaching, I mean,
is next week is it gonna Is it gonna come out? I mean
I was looking at the timeline. There's two more episode. There's one more
episode I think before the finale. So we have next week, then the
finale, then we started the three week reunion thing, which is really all
we want. Now, well, I guess everybody don't Maybe it doesn't come
out in real time because didn't watch What Happens live. Remember when they talked
about the fact that Lala said, oh, there's going to be a conversation
in the finale where yeah, it's not live, they watch what happened.
I mean, yeah, they're showing the watch what happens. And now as
we watch back, no, no, no, I know. But remember
when Lala said, on watch what happens? She said, there's a conversation
in the finale between between where Mariana and Roquel have a conversation, and it's
just heartbreaking because she's just lying to her face. Remember that. Yes,
maybe maybe she just didn't know when the how they were going to edit it.
I don't know, I don't know what the timeline is there, but
yeah, I mean I feel like I feel like the problem is like having
it go so long that they really could have cut like three episodes because we
already know, so we're ready to see it, and we all we all
just want to reunion, right, It's not just ridiculous, it's just a
whole show about Roquell's behavior. Yeah, and it's just really's getting exhausting.
We have two more full episodes before the reunion, which is what we're here
for. And I just want to end this this one with where is Satchel
is? He? Okay? Has anyone checked on Satchel? Honestly? Somebody
you right now is doing their dishes with his hair poor, grabbing their caraway
fry pay? Do they meet online? Do they ever say how they've met?
How did they match? What happened? I don't know? Where is
Satchel? You guys, look where if you've taken nothing from this, from
this episode of what we're talking about, Like, let's look, I don't
love not so I know we don't do milk car I mean amber alert?
Would that be appropriate? Right now? All of our foes just get you
know that you can't turn that off. It's so loud, right, and
then it's just like, where is Satchel is Okay, I think it's needed,
not just to California Highway Patrol. All Right, you guys, you
guys, we do, we love you. We know. There's many podcasts
you can listen to on vander Pump, including The La La and everybody else.
But look, you know, we're gonna have some different takes, and
you're gonna get mad at us, and we're gonna get kicked out of groups.
But it is what it is. It is all right, By bye.
Love is blind.