WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:37.520 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. You guys, remember whenever there were folks 3 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:41.799 out there that would tell us that there was not an appetite for sports gambling 4 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:47.479 here in Kentucky and that you know, it really wouldn't do that much for, 5 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.840 you know, helping out the state of Kentucky when it comes to, 6 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:54.719 you know, money, It's crazy to think that, you know, that 7 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:59.799 was really a thing, but it was, and those people were wrong Earlier 8 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:04.200 to Andy, Basheer says that the state has collected thirty seven million dollars in 9 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:11.159 taxes and licensing fees since sports wagering became legal just ten months ago. So 10 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.079 again, I'm I mean, that's exceeded expectations. I never felt as if 11 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.359 anybody who claimed it wouldn't be worth it, and you'd learn that people really 12 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.159 aren't that interested in gambling. I knew that was nonsense, But I guess 13 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:23.079 the amount of money, I don't really know what to compare it to, 14 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.079 but I will say that, you know, I don't think anybody thought they 15 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:32.519 would be this big of a boom. But it's been good and I'm sure 16 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:37.079 you can find some stories out there from folks who maybe it was something that 17 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.359 they learned about, experienced, and maybe they got carried away. But that 18 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.079 doesn't mean that it still shouldn't be something that we can do here legally, 19 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.959 because again, it's one of those things that a lot of people. I 20 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.359 mean, maybe it's just what I choose, but I think a lot of 21 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.480 people who do partake in sports wagering they do it for entertainment. They're not 22 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:57.640 trying to quit their job and be a professional gambler. I mean, if 23 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:00.000 you can and you can pull it off, good for you. But it 24 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:05.200 really is entertainment for a lot of people. And yeah, so that number 25 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.439 came out today, thirty seven million dollars in just taxes and licensing fees here 26 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:13.240 in the state of Kentucky since sports wagering became legal ten months ago. Why 27 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.560 do I feel like it's been legal for like years, I guess because I've 28 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:17.680 been doing it for a long time. Yeah, even before it was legal 29 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:21.280 here in Kentucky because we were the island. I mean, before it was 30 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:25.199 legal in Kentucky, every state that bordered us had legalized sports family So I 31 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:29.159 guess that's why it feels like it's been, you know, forever. All 32 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:30.520 right, it is Coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's here on 33 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.120 Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us, and we 34 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.199 now welcome in our man, mister Zach Barnett of Football Scoop. He's our 35 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:44.199 official college football insider. Zach. I'll start with a direct question, what 36 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.759 gives you more? What has the potential to give you more fatigue? Maybe 37 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:52.639 it's already something you have fatigue over, maybe it hasn't happened yet. Colorado 38 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.800 still presenting themselves as a program that just won a national championship despite winning four 39 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:02.400 games last year, or people acting as if the Big Twelve adding Clemson in 40 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:06.719 Florida State is like a real thing. What do you think could well in 41 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.439 your line of work? What is a more annoying story out there that people 42 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:15.560 are talking about. Oh, this is an easy question. It's definitely the 43 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:23.039 Clemson and Florida State to the Big Twelve. I mean as just as pure 44 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:29.280 content as the story to both cover and and follow. There was a time 45 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:34.599 when when Realignment was was the hottest show on TV, and now it's it's 46 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.759 Gray's anatomy where none of the original cast members are still on and you're like, 47 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.280 they're still doing that. It's like, yeah, they get they're one 48 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.919 point five million a week, so they're gonna keep doing it as long as 49 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:51.520 they can. Like the realignment story, just as as entertainment has played out, 50 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.240 and the Dion thing at Colorado is novel, even though it's not as 51 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:00.400 hot as it was last year because there's no time like the first time. 52 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:05.319 But either in season two, either they're going to rise up and hit the 53 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:10.120 magical six wins and play in a bowl game and all that, or they're 54 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:14.759 going to crash and burn again, and either way it'll be entertaining. Yeah, 55 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:16.759 well, I want to get your thoughts. I got a couple questions 56 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:19.040 on both of those things, but I'll start with the realignment stuff. I 57 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.879 mean, I I used to really get into realignment stuff knowing that it was 58 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.519 mostly nonsense. I think as much as there has been a lot of movement 59 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.920 and a lot of musical chairs being played in commentsary alignment in the last fifteen 60 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.839 years or so, I think eighty five percent of what you saw on the 61 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.000 internet and that time was all nonsense. And even I knew that but it 62 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.519 was still just something to get you know, lost in the weeds on Maybe 63 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:42.720 it's me getting older, Maybe it's just the fact that like this one is 64 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.399 just it's so nonsensical to believe that like that would actually happen Florida and Clemson 65 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.680 Florida State and Clemson would have to pay five hundred and seventy million dollars to 66 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.399 get out of this grant of rights, which I feel like if they were 67 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:56.160 making really good progress on getting out of it, we would know by now. 68 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.759 But yet again people share, Like I guess I'll ask you this not 69 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.000 to play psychologists of the collegege football world, but I went to like three 70 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:05.000 different stories on Twitter from you know, legitimate sites to an extent, right, 71 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:09.040 it's not like your leaders of college football coverage. It's no football scoop 72 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:14.040 dot com. But the majority of the engagement is people acting like it's real, 73 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.399 and I just I cannot believe that, Like I mean, not that 74 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.360 people are nerding out on grain of rights terms and whatnot, but like, 75 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:24.079 I don't think it takes anybody to be an insider or even close to it 76 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.000 to realize like that's just such a non story that somebody is just engagement. 77 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:33.319 They're doing engagement farming. Yeah, I think so much of this in college 78 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:40.160 football is different in than pro sports because so much of college football we already 79 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:46.199 accept happens behind the scenes and off camera and behind closed doors through recruiting that 80 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.600 we since because program you know, head coaches don't go out and give press 81 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:56.680 conferences and gms don't give press conferences after they miss on a recruit. So 82 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.319 we are all conditioned to go to our veryious insiders who who tell us, 83 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:06.680 you know, whatever story they've gleaned, and a lot of times that they're 84 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:12.160 telling us what we want to hear, because you know that that's what pays 85 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:17.480 more often than not. And so realignment is just a souped up version of 86 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:23.319 recruiting in that way that all this stuff is happening behind closed doors and everything's 87 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.319 going to get done and the heroes are going to win in the end. 88 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.319 I think that's I think that's what's driving a lot of this. Zach Bardetta 89 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.360 Football Scoop is our guest joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety back to 90 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:38.680 to Dion Sanders in Colorado. You know, last year, it, I 91 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:42.759 mean, numbers showed that it was a it was a. It was a 92 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.360 big It was popular following Dion seeing how he would, you know, how 93 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.920 he would potentially take his success at Jackson State to Colorado and the Big Twelve. 94 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:55.519 And anytime Deon Sanders says something, it usually moves the needle. I 95 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.040 mean, he has that impact and there's not that many people to do so, 96 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.439 I mean I can't really fight that. But as someone who covers college 97 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.439 football that reaches a wide audience across the country that loves the sport, how 98 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:08.720 interesting is Colorado in year two? Like? Where does it? I mean, 99 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.959 I'm not going to ask you to rank storylines, but I just feel 100 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.480 as if, you know, they were so bad last year, and yet 101 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.759 they still keep saying the same kind of things that they've typically said. I 102 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:20.839 mean, Shador Sanders saying that they're everybody's super Bowl, Deon Sanders during the 103 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:25.920 College Football Playoff last year, basically guaranteeing that his team would be in the 104 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:30.000 playoff this upcoming season. Like they're going to always say those things, I 105 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.680 think, regardless of results. But do you feel as if college football fans 106 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.680 are still going to gravitate towards it? Because last year, I mean, 107 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.240 the numbers showed that they did. Regardless of how bad they were, they 108 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:45.199 were continuously a talking point. Oh yeah, I mean in September they were 109 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:51.839 the number one story in all of sports and the most impressive thing that anyone 110 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:57.399 accomplished last year, you can argue, even more difficult than Michigan winning the 111 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:03.000 national championship was Colorado. We're ten million people to watch them play Colorado State 112 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.879 on a late Friday night game. I mean that that is, That's the 113 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.439 novelty that will never see It's something if you would have said it a year 114 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.480 prior, not a soul on the planet would have believed you. No, 115 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:18.480 absolutely not. And I think there's still easily a top ten story in the 116 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.959 sport. And it depends on how things go. But it'll either be a 117 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.000 top five, but it'll either be a story we can all point and laugh 118 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.360 at if if they suck again, or if they win and compelling, then 119 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.200 it'll be a comeback story at all that And you know Dion made the point 120 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.519 at Big twelve many days and he's not exactly wrong that. I mean, 121 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:43.519 he's not wrong at all. They got a lot better from where they were. 122 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.799 I mean, Colorado in twenty twenty two is absolutely atrocious. Not even 123 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:52.399 a Division I football team, and they went four eight, but that's massively 124 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.080 from where they were, and if they improve as much from twenty four to 125 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:03.000 twenty three, then there'll be a both team for sure. So I think 126 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:05.519 I think he's going to be a story for as long as he's coaching, 127 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:11.200 because next year you'll have all I'm doing Kerr, assuming he stays there. 128 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.519 If he leaves, then it'll be something I imagine if Lebron was fifteen years 129 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:24.240 from now as the head coach at the Northwestern and basketball or pictures fill Iowa. 130 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.080 I mean, that would be a massive story no matter what happens. 131 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:33.120 And I mean we've covered the prime story from before he even got the Texas 132 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.440 State job. We have been on his on this story for his entire college 133 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.440 football coaching career, and you know, our numbers show that there's interest well 134 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.960 beyond college football diehards here and that's not going to change, all right, 135 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:50.240 So I'm not really surprised that this seemingly has kind of went away. But 136 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.879 the Mike Gundy comment about him doing it a thousand times and being lucky meaning 137 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.720 what Ali Gordon did getting behind the wheel and being a with a legal limit 138 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.519 I mean that that that became sort of a viral club while we were on 139 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.000 the air a couple of days ago, and I mean I'm thinking, like 140 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.000 did he really just say that? Like is that? Did that mean what? 141 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.440 And then I think within twenty four hours, you know, because nobody's 142 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.600 really surprised that Mike Gundy said it. That it's kind of just nothing because 143 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:20.399 it's i mean, again, I don't think anybody would have predicted that he 144 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.600 would say that, and and it's certainly not something I think any other coach 145 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:26.519 would have said. But like that's kind of just Gundy being Gundy. He's 146 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.360 done it before, and he's still a made man and still water to where 147 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.120 you know, it's it's almost i mean, it's already gone because again, 148 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:41.679 like it's Gundhy. Yeah, he's he has tenure at Oklahoma State, more 149 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.960 than even you know, Nick Saban had in his peak at Alabama due to 150 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:50.200 his contract and his the equity that's he's built up there. I mean, 151 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:54.600 he's been a cowboy for all but five years of his adult life, and 152 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.240 until he became the head coach, he was basically the only good quarterback hat 153 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.480 and I'm sure there's actions of the Oklahoma state fan base that would love to 154 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.000 see him move on and was tired of his antics. But as long as 155 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:15.080 he keeps pumping out consistent winning teams, he's going to be able to stay 156 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.200 there for as long as you want. So he can rather a CONTROVERSI like 157 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:26.480 that, And certainly no one would sit here and admire or advise Mike Gunny 158 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.240 of a major state university to go out and admit to drunk driving a thousand 159 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.759 plus times. But I mean, he's not wrong. I can admit two 160 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.080 times in my life where I got behind a wheel of a car when I 161 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.639 shouldn't have, and luckily nothing happened to me. But I'm sure every single 162 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:48.679 person listening has had times like that as well if not. If not, 163 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.720 they're probably lying to themselves. And there's also a level of it to where, 164 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:56.840 like I mean, there's still a lot of value in just being honest, 165 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.480 and even though it's something most wouldn't have said, they would have been 166 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.200 a little more politically correct. I think everybody knows he was just being honest, 167 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.000 and there's still some you know, even if people can react to it 168 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.240 and say, hey, that's insane for a coach to say. I think 169 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.080 everybody knows he was literally just being brutally and directly honest. And again, 170 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:18.320 I think I hope there's always at least some value there in that. All 171 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.679 Right, one more question I wanted to get to you before we run out 172 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.360 of time. Here is your I guess, how have you Have you been 173 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:31.440 surprised to see the reaction online about the return of the EA Sports NCAA football 174 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.559 game, because, I mean, I knew it was going to be a 175 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.120 big deal, But I gotta be honest with you, I am taken aback 176 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.919 by how much it is really kind of led in again. And maybe it's 177 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.000 this time of the year where we're just waiting for football to start. Talking 178 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.399 season is a here, But man, I can't think of any game that 179 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.480 has ever gotten this kind of attention from the sports world. Yeah, I 180 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.919 think, yes, And no. I obviously we all knew it was going 181 00:12:54.960 --> 00:13:00.240 to be a huge story. I didn't anticipate the interest in I guess kind 182 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:05.720 of the minutia that I didn't really care about, Like there's I'm certainly going 183 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.759 to buy the game and play it as often as my schedule OUs and and 184 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.600 played it, I'm sure, just like you, way too much in my 185 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:20.080 younger days. But people have hard sports opinions about some of the stuff. 186 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.279 Yeah, I've never even with in the game, like the ultimate team. 187 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.440 I have to raise my hand in a I don't even know what the ultimate 188 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.679 team is, and at this point I'm afraid to ask. But there's people 189 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.679 really fired up about it, and everybody's got their own opinion. Everybody's got 190 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.759 their own preferences. Like some people are gamers. I played sports games when 191 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:41.000 I was a kid, but I never have become like a gamer to where 192 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.639 I got into like you know, Call of Duty that kind of stuff. 193 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.639 But at times I see I see people on Twitter and even some people that 194 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.360 I know that I talk to, I want to just interject and say, 195 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.080 you realize this is a video game. Like people are fired up that, 196 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.720 you know, the Louisville defense may not be getting enough credit for me a 197 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.600 sports and I'm thinking like that that's not It's one thing to be upset about 198 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.720 preseason predictions from those who cover the sport, but this is a video game. 199 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.039 Yeah. Uh, I guess we just got to talk up to this 200 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:16.600 is the We're lucky that there's this much passion around college football, because the 201 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:22.519 alternative would be way worse but having I mean, we would evolve been if 202 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.759 it fired up to just have a generic college football game. It wasn't even 203 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:31.919 attached to current teams and players. But the fact that we can really play 204 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:37.480 with our favorite players with their own names is incredible. In any sort of 205 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.480 flaws or disagreement, we just got to take with agreed assault. All Right, 206 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.519 one more, I lied there's gonna be a player that announces his decision 207 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.000 to lead to leave his school and transfer via the portal. There's gonna be 208 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:54.000 some kind of a video that surfaces where he does it through the game, 209 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.000 right, Like the people are gonna players are going to use this to like 210 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.440 be creative and get views on social media because like there's going to be a 211 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.159 portal within the game, Like I'm I'm sure one of the big transfers that 212 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.080 happens, maybe it's actually a guy leaving the team midseason, or maybe it's 213 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.039 after next year, like I think, EA sports this game, it is 214 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.440 going to be intertwined within the actual sport of college football in a way like 215 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.799 we've never seen with MADD we've never seen with two K and in a way 216 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:18.600 that could be kind of fun. But again, I hope people realize this 217 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:24.679 is this is a video game. Yeah. I saw today Perdew announced new 218 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.759 uniforms through through the video game kind of sort of, but this is Yeah, 219 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:35.360 it's going to be a character within college football for all time moving forward. 220 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.159 You're right, it's I think it is going to be more intertwined to 221 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.080 college football than two k is to the NBA or Madden is to the NFL. 222 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:48.279 What was your favorite video game as a kid that was not a sports 223 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:54.639 game? I guess, uh, oh, Mario Kart, Yeah that was 224 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.759 sports game. I guess. No. I mean there's there's a competitiveness to 225 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.000 it as far as like racing, which I guess is you know, with 226 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:04.480 within the sports world. But no, I think, you know, I 227 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.320 think that checks out for not sports. Did you ever play tomb Raider? 228 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:12.360 I'm sure I did once or twice. I'm like you, I never played 229 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:18.679 any video game really that wasn't sports. I guess GoldenEye would be the game. 230 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.759 That's a good one the most time that wasn't sports. Yeah, I 231 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.399 played tomb Raider for a little while and I got into it because I thought 232 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.320 Laura Croft was hot, and then you know, kind of checked out and 233 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.480 then I played crash Bandicoot you know what that is. Yeah, that was 234 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:40.000 fun. But well, you know, the rumor, the rumor going around 235 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.879 my school, I'm sure, was that if you beat tomb Raider, Laura 236 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:47.759 Cross wouldet naked. Yeah. Yeah, I believe that and I was proven 237 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:52.519 wrong. Yeah. And that was also the rumor with the NFL Blitz game 238 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.919 as well, that Laura Croft would be naked if you beat NFL Blitz. 239 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:03.039 There was always that cheerleader. Okay, gotcha, that would be something. 240 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.640 Yeah, I mean, I'm not kidding you. That lower Croft thing was 241 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.079 like I think I stayed up like all night when night on a school night, 242 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:11.359 because I'm like, you know, I got this far now, and 243 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.480 you know, I was very, very disappointed to see that it was all 244 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.519 not real. So if you're still out there trying to beat the game, 245 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:22.960 you're not going to get the result you want. Smart viral marketing, no 246 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.799 doubt about it. Zach, you are the man I appreciate you's always making 247 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.519 time for his brother. We will talk to you soon. Stay well good, 248 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.920 all right? That Zach Barnett FootballScoop dot Com. Good stuff. Yeah, 249 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.880 I uh, I was a big tomb Raider guy. I would have 250 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:41.279 never guessed that most. I mean again, it was it was. I 251 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.359 mean, it wasn't that like, honestly, I don't need tomb Raider was 252 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.920 like a known game, but like it wasn't like it didn't come close to 253 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.799 being like one of the most popular games that came out whenever I was young, 254 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.000 when video game you know, when my era of video games. But 255 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.200 yeah, NBA, I never played two K because two K I don't even 256 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.839 know if it existed. Whenever I was into games brief out, we played 257 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.720 a little bit. In high school. There was NBA Live, which was 258 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:08.079 EA Sports's version of of NBA. It was basically like they're Madden, but 259 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.640 it was for basketball, and it was, I mean, it was fine. 260 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.480 I didn't mind the game at all. I mean, I didn't really 261 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.839 know what to compare it to. I went from NBA Jam to EA Sports 262 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.079 NBA Live, and then two K came out and kind of just killed it. 263 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.720 Like two K ended the NBA Live because they just couldn't compete. And 264 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.279 then, of course, you know, Madden never really had a true competitor. 265 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:32.960 I don't think. All right, stick with us. We got another 266 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.599 hour and forty minutes roughly here a lot more to get into, so again, 267 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.079 hang out with us right here. It's Coffee and Company Field Buth Thornton's 268 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:45.839 on Sports Talk seven ninety. Coffee and Company Field by Thornton's here on Sports 269 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.680 Talk seven ninety. That's us Nick Coffee, the company Man, mister John 270 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.200 All on alongside today. So one of the things you heard there during the 271 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.640 break if you were listening to the Fox Sports National update there that does give 272 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:59.920 us, you know, some local stories if they're there. They talked about 273 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:03.880 the Kentucky basketball non conference schedule, which I'm not sure if it's just this 274 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.240 time of the year or what it is, but there seems to be a 275 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.640 lot of reaction to this if it's like a surprise, and it's some Kentucky 276 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:14.160 fans, even Nickow, you know, acting as if they're you know, 277 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:18.039 underwhelmed with the schedule. Of course, a lot of you know, Louisville 278 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:22.039 fans mocking the schedule and you know, like that's just what we do right 279 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.359 as rivals. But I think that I don't understand the reaction on either side. 280 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:32.200 Maybe it's people not realizing that a coach who just got hired has very 281 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:36.400 little to do with the schedule. That that that is in place in year 282 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:41.119 one because a lot of that stuff is done ahead of time before they would 283 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:42.440 be hired. Like, for example, Kenny Payne, you think he would 284 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.920 have taken that first team to MAUI. Not a chance in hell. That 285 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.279 was Chris Mack. And speaking of Chris Mac, Chris Mack played some teams 286 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:55.839 that were scheduled during the holdover when David Page was here that Louisville would never 287 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:59.599 want a schedule because again, by playing some of these teams like South Carolina 288 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:07.240 State and Nickel State, like you just are going to drop your your your 289 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.359 metric by playing them. So this past year Kenny had a schedule that you 290 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.079 know was fit for him where they played some of the worst teams in the 291 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:18.640 country and they did not play in the acc SEC challenged, something that I 292 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.839 still believe was their own doing. So, you know, Mark Pope, 293 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.480 I don't know what his schedule, his scheduling is going to look like moving 294 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.440 forward. And honestly, I can say the same thing for Pat Kelsey. 295 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:33.119 You know, I hope Pat Kelsey continues to schedule or hope ault Will continues 296 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.880 to schedule the same way. When Kelsey's the guy who's really leading the charge 297 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.400 as far as you know what the schedule looks like. Because I mean, 298 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:45.759 I think if you consider yourself to be a top tier program, which both 299 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:48.480 schools around here do, Indiana is in the same conversation, I mean, 300 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.880 I don't think you should shy away from playing a competitive non conference schedule. 301 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:59.200 You're not going to fill every non conference opening with you know, top fifteen 302 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:06.559 teams, but you know, mix in a handful of non conference tests because 303 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.440 that's what they are. It's a test to see where you are, and 304 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:12.559 it can help you on selection Sunday, and it really helps you when it 305 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:18.279 comes to avoiding the benefit of the doubt question. What don't mean by that 306 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.160 is if you are blah, mediocre, you were just average in the non 307 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.640 conference when you played good teams, and then you get into conference play in 308 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.720 your average again, maybe it's just that, you know, man, what 309 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.000 are you gonna do? You're in a tough league night in the night out, 310 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.279 you're playing great teams. Or maybe it's just the fact that you're mediocre. 311 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.559 That's what the Big Twelve does. I mean, the Big Twelve and 312 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.400 even the Big Ten at times they get into conference play and it's really competitive 313 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.799 and that is not always a sign of like, wow, everybody's great. 314 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:52.480 It could be a sign that everybody's kind of whatever. So you know Louisville 315 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.160 this year, I mean, they play a really competitive non conference schedule. 316 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.519 When you consider Kentucky and maybe they're not as good as they were under Cow, 317 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.200 but still Kentucky at rop Arena, that's always gonna be a tough game. 318 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.039 We don't know who they're gonna end up facing in the Bahamas, but 319 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.240 a good chance they're going to play at least two top ten teams. I 320 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.519 mean, just the way that that that that's likely to break out that or 321 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:17.759 to break down that way, just because of how loaded that event is. 322 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:21.480 In Indiana, Arizona and Zaga, those three teams right there in it, 323 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:25.839 and they're all probably going to be preseason top fifteen. I mean, heck, 324 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.720 Gonzaga could be top five, Arizona top ten. Indiana I guess it 325 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.359 really depends on where you're looking. But they're gonna have a good team with 326 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.200 a lot of talent. Even Providence too, Yeah, Creighton's place, that's 327 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:37.200 right. Tournament, that's right. So you've got that. You throw in 328 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.279 the SEC Big Ten Challenge with who they get in that Why am I? 329 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:45.200 Why am I blanking on who they Who they have in the A in the 330 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.440 ACC SEC Challenge, not Big ten. I know they play Tennessee, which 331 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.440 is a good non conference game to just throw on the schedule. Why is 332 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.720 it escaping me who they're going to play? Like we talked about it, 333 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:59.200 it was a whole it was a big deal, and now I can't think 334 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:03.799 of it's gonna drive me crazy. It's one of the good SEC teams, 335 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.720 is it not. It's Ole Miss Ole miss Yeah, Chris Beard. Yeah, 336 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.480 they'll be preseason top twenty five, I would assume because of the Chris 337 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:11.599 Beard factor. And they did really well in the portal. So I love 338 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:17.680 non conference basketball more than most because a lot of times when those games are 339 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:21.400 being played, college basketball really hadn't taken the forefront yet, because college football 340 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:25.279 still in full swing. The NFL's going on, and you get some really 341 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:26.839 good matchups and sometimes people say, oh, who cares, it's the beginning 342 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.920 of the year. These teams aren't a finished product yet, And maybe that's 343 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.160 true, but like that's that can be said about the Champions Classic, which 344 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.799 is usually like a third game of the year for everybody. When you get 345 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.440 to December and you get around Christmas time, like you can still clearly either 346 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:42.839 get better or get worse. Like it's still relatively early in the season, 347 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:48.039 but it's not that far from halfway being done, and you know there's value 348 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:53.000 there, right, So you know Kentucky's non conference schedule, this is what 349 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:56.359 it breaks down as. And again I'm gonna I'm gonna reference just to see 350 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.279 if I'm just completely wrong here, but I feel like it's like the same 351 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.759 kind of Kentucky schedule that you see every year because Cal would would play some 352 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.759 neutral site games against you know, legitimate competition like he does, like he 353 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.559 always did, and they'd always have Louisville which was a home and away and 354 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.559 then they got into the SEC Big twelve Challenges is what it used to be, 355 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:19.960 and then of course he became the SEC ACC Challenge and those are always 356 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:23.440 are always home and away. But then like the nobody games would always be 357 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.279 against teams that usually really really suck, Like rarely did Kentucky play a team 358 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:33.400 in the non conference from a mid major or a low major and that team 359 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:34.880 like be good in their league, Like I remember when they lost to h 360 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.640 who was it last year? They lost to you and wilmky y. Yeah, 361 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.720 got it, and everybody said, oh, they've got way way to 362 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.799 say, Oh wait a second, they're gonna win their league. No they 363 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:47.319 didn't. They didn't. They didn't make tournament, so you know, and 364 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.400 look that's I have no problem with him picking those games. But like to 365 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:52.240 me again, I bring this up to say, like, I don't I 366 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:57.160 think this schedule is is pretty whatever, especially comparatively speaking from previous years. 367 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:00.920 But here's who the here's who they play. They got Right State to open 368 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.559 up the season, which, to be honest with your Right State's actually pretty 369 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.160 good for their league. I mean, they usually are one of the better 370 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.960 teams in the Horizon. I think it is Bucknell. Buck Nell's in the 371 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.400 Patriot League. They usually hear pretty good in their league too. And then 372 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.079 they played Duke in the Champions Classic. I totally figot they play Duke this 373 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:22.839 year, Cooper Flag, that's gonna be that'd be a big game. That'll 374 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.599 be young verse old, which is weird because usually keat Kentucky's young and now 375 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.920 they're not. They're old. If they somehow find a way to get killed 376 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:34.400 in that game, that'll be the first Oh yeah, shop. Yeah for 377 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:38.480 Mark Pope. But they could win. I mean, yeah, they could. 378 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.440 Not saying they won't win, but like if it's embarrassing because they're used 379 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.079 to being competitive in those games, that'll be something they're not used to. 380 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.640 I mean, have they played Duke sent Zion in the Champions Classic? I 381 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.279 feel like they have. Maybe I'm just they rotate. It's every third year 382 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:57.160 they play. Yeah whoever that team would have been so in nineteen or no, 383 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.839 it was eighteen they played Duke and Zion the guy, so they've played 384 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.799 him since then. I don't remember if they won, but you know, 385 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.759 that'll be a big test. And they have Lipscomb, who is is is 386 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:11.920 you know, not very good Jackson State. That's a team from the I 387 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.839 think it's the the swack that that's not gonna be much of a challenge. 388 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.640 They do play WKU, which that I believe is a Mark Pope thing, 389 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.000 Like he put that game on the schedule and that's Look, if you're going 390 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.319 to play teams of that caliber from you know, Conference USA, then might 391 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.720 as well play WKU. I don't think they've played. In fact, they 392 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.519 had not played each other in a long time, and then they randomly played 393 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:37.839 each other. When Louisville did not get to play because of COVID in the 394 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.559 twenty twenty one season. I think it was so Georgia State, which I 395 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.160 think is usually a pretty competitive team for their level. Then they play at 396 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:51.400 Clemson in the sec ACC Challenge. They will go to Seattle to play Gonzaga. 397 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.119 Then they'll play Colgate. You can make fun of the name Colgate all 398 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.519 you want. Colgate's really good for who they are, right, Like, 399 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.279 they're not a I mean, Colgate's not a you know, they're not a 400 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.799 known program. In fact, a lot of people probably have never heard of 401 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.240 them, you know, because you think of Colgate, you think of toothpaste. 402 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.720 Right, But they are also I think they're also in I could be 403 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:12.799 wrong, but I think they are also in the Patriot League. But yeah, 404 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.359 let's see here, not now, I'm just curious because, yeah, 405 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:22.079 the Patriot League has Yeah, Colgate and Bucknell were the two best teams in 406 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.000 that league last year, so hey, they've got some Patriot League competition. 407 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.400 And then they finish up the non conference with Louisville, of course, which 408 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.519 will be a home game for them on December fourteenth. Then they'll play Ohio 409 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.799 State at MSG, which will be the chance the CBS Sports Classic, and 410 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:41.000 then they play Brown of the Ivy League. So again this is to me, 411 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.240 this schedule is like what you typically would see with Cal like it's a 412 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.519 and in fact, I'll be honest with you, I think it's actually tougher. 413 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.960 Like let me look at last year's schedule for them, because I think 414 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.839 again it's the you have the same opponents that you've always had when it comes 415 00:27:53.880 --> 00:28:00.519 to Yeah, so you have last year they played New Mexico State in Texas 416 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.599 A and M Commerce. I guess those teams were worse than the other teams. 417 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.680 Like the first two games last year New Mexico State and Texas A and 418 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.680 M Commerce. Quite literally, those are two of the worst teams in college 419 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:14.279 basketball last year. Whereas now you have Wright stating Bucknell, who, again 420 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:15.799 for who they are, are a lot better than the those two teams. 421 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.039 I'm not acting like they've got a jugger not type of schedule, but like 422 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.039 I actually think they're They mean, they played stone Hill, which I don't 423 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.640 believe is a real team. Did that game happen? Who held stone Hill? 424 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.440 They were a brand new team to Division one last year, so they 425 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.160 also played Saint Joe's and nearly lost. That's a team, you know, 426 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.240 Saint jose Is, you know, a team that's known. They played Marshall 427 00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:41.519 and Marshall is probably mediocre for a Conference USA team. Or they sunned up 428 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.319 I think their sun Belt now and then Miami ACC Challenge game and then un 429 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.160 C Wong Teman they lost. They played Penn also a team from the IVY 430 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.759 League. They played Carolina, that was the CBS Sports Classic. They played 431 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:57.119 Louisville. Of course every year they played Illinois State, which was I guess 432 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:02.599 a gift to Illinois State letting Antonio Reeves come back to Kentucky and you know, 433 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.160 not keep not having transfer back there because they didn't want to play for 434 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.880 Cali Perry. So you know, people can mock it, and that's fine, 435 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.039 but this is a if. I think this is a tougher schedule than 436 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.920 what Cali Perry had last year. And I don't know if it's Pope's doing 437 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.640 or whatnot, but you know, I think one thing the Kentucky fans are 438 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.559 always upset about. They never really get marquee home matchups in the non conference. 439 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.000 Yeah, no, there's they're You're absolutely right, like I'm sorry, 440 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.079 I don't. I don't think college basketball needs neutral site games. I just 441 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:37.400 don't because who does it benefit? Like why why do that? Like you 442 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.319 could have like a like you could have the like for example, the CBS 443 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:47.200 Sports Classic could be the CBS Sports Classic and you just rotate home and away, 444 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:52.480 Like the same four teams play in that event every year. Don't do 445 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.519 it in New Orleans in front of fifty people or in you know, an 446 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.759 NBA arena when nobody cares about college basketball in that major city. I just 447 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.680 don't, like, what's the benefit of that. Like, I know Cal 448 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.759 likes to to do that because he liked to. I mean, I think 449 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.880 he's doing it in Arkansas too. He wants to have like he wants these 450 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.960 guys to be playing in big cities and be an NBA arenas and you know, 451 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.960 just look like you're the attraction. But that's another example of Caliperry just 452 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.920 being a guy who really wanted to have his own brand of things, not 453 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:26.680 really considering college basketball and his humongous fan base that you know, you play 454 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.039 those kind of teams, Like if you would if you played those teams every 455 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.279 year, one of those four that you get in the CBS Sports Classic at 456 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.160 the Champions Classic, and they was a rote think you know how awesome those 457 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.759 atmospheres would be. I mean to be insane. Now. I do like 458 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.240 the the tournaments though, like obviously the Bahamas. Yeah, yeah, that's 459 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.119 but that's that's different. But those are tournaments. Yeah, those are those 460 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.400 are three days like those like you can win those tournaments. Like those are 461 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.319 tournaments. These are just random. Hey, we're gonna go to a major 462 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.920 city and play a game, and we're gonna put it on a network like 463 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:02.200 it just the same thing could be done with out you traveling to Chicago, 464 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.359 New York, Atlanta. You could do it in your home arenas and still 465 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:08.880 put it on CBS. It could still be an ESPN event, which the 466 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.200 Champions Classic is like, I just you know, I don't I don't get 467 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.240 it, but whatever. All right, let's get to a quick break. 468 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.359 We'll come back on the other side, wrap up the four o'clock hour, 469 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.359 keep this thing rolling along. We got a lot more to get into, 470 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:27.319 including this new U NBA media deal which is just insane money. But also 471 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.880 I like how they structured it as far as the schedule, which we'll talk 472 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.920 about that on the other side and uh well, I'll save that for later. 473 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:38.200 Stick around, It's coffee and company. Feel abut Thornon's right here on 474 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:45.839 Sports Talk seven ninety Who is this one Republic? Okay? They still like? 475 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.640 Are they still popular? I don't know that they have as many hits 476 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.759 as they used to. They had a good run, didn't They had a 477 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.960 very good run? Yeah, like multiple albums of runs. And what what 478 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.319 genre is this? This is like a top ra hop ra. Yeah, 479 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.799 kind of fit the same vibe as Maroon five and imagine dragons that type of 480 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.079 stuff. You know what, I think I may have just learned that, 481 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.359 Like that's not my preference, but I kind of dig that music. It's 482 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:15.079 very feel good music. Yeah, yeah, in white people music some people 483 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.559 call yeah, And it makes sense as to why like it's it makes sense 484 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.599 to why it ends up being like play like it fits in a lot of 485 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.640 scenarios to where it's not. I mean, yeah, I guess it is 486 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.680 most like a white people thing. Cold plays kind of the leader of this 487 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:32.319 type of music. I feel like too, but I feel like like the 488 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:37.240 biggest Yeah, but they're a little more and they're good, but like they're 489 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.599 I don't know, maybe just because they said they're such a bigger like there's 490 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.680 they're way more famous, right, biggest brand, That's what I'm getting. 491 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.240 Yeah, their brands bigger, But no, I guess that. Yeah, 492 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.279 as far as just music alone, I think they certainly fallen fallen into that 493 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.200 same tier. All right. So I thought this was fake the first time 494 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.759 I saw it, But it's real and it's awesome. Was it two weeks 495 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.599 ago? We were talking realignment stuff and I and I mentioned like, hey, 496 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.519 like, I don't know people realize this PAC twelve actually still exists. 497 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.160 You remember that, like we were always Yeah, it was the first of 498 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:13.200 July whenever the official it became official that SMU and Call and Stanford in the 499 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.000 ACC in Oklahoma and Texas were officially in the SEC. And you know, 500 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.119 somebody did like a breakdown of where the conferences stood and they included the PAC 501 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.920 twelve And I'm like, why are they doing that? And it's because the 502 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.920 league still exist, it just has two people. So that's not what I 503 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.359 thought was fake. What I thought was fake was that they actually had a 504 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.000 media day. Did you see this? John? I did not. That's 505 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:36.279 super weird. PAC twelve held their media event in Vegas, with an open 506 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:40.039 bar, and Ross Dellinger there was covering it, and of course it's a 507 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:44.160 scaled down media event, but it does have an open bar. And there's 508 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.640 a commissioner named Teresa Gould, who I believe just kind of stepped into that 509 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.160 role as somebody who already worked for the PAC twelve because the guy who you 510 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.839 know, was in charge when the conference died, you know, he either 511 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.559 ran away or they got rid of him. But says here that the commission 512 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.720 Teresa Gould, opens the event by gesturing to the are we are drinking tonight? 513 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.400 If anyone has earned the right to drink, it's the PAC twelve. 514 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.559 So it looks like a ballroom and the lights are dim, it's like theater 515 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.239 lighting. And they have the mascot of Oregon State in the mascot of Washington 516 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:21.280 State just sitting on stage in chairs looking just absolutely exhausted. So shout out 517 00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.760 to the PAC twelve for I guess having a sense of humor. And I 518 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.519 love it. You know it actually mad. Why does it make him look 519 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.320 cool? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know why I'm 520 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.760 bracing the struggle right now? Yeah, I mean, they technically still have 521 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.039 a conference but yet they also are technically you know in the Mountain West because 522 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.679 that's there, that's the schedule like that they're playing, that's the scheduling arrangement. 523 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:51.000 But yeah, the the the sign here it says after Hours with the 524 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.800 Beaves and Coogs presented by the PAC twelve. So I guess there are still 525 00:34:54.880 --> 00:35:00.920 some funds, you know, in place in the lee to where they're like, 526 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.559 you know what everybody left. In fact, these the schools had to 527 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.840 pay to get out, right, So I mean, like where's that money 528 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.199 go? You know what I mean? Like the schools that left the PAC 529 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:20.000 twelve Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, USC, Oregon or like all of 530 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.199 them, they had to pay an exit fee. I don't know what it 531 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:23.840 was. So like, hey, because nobody wanted them, they're still in 532 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.840 the PAC twelve, Oregon State, Washington States. Hey, we're gonna go 533 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.440 to Vegas and take some of that money you guys left, the money you 534 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.159 guys left when you killed the league, and we're gonna go get hammered. 535 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.719 Like they're like they're not calling it big PAC twelve Media Day or you know 536 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:43.840 operation football like the U or no, I think they called the football kickoff 537 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.639 in the ACC and they called the Basketball Media Days Operation Basketball, which is 538 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:52.280 so stupid. But the sign here when you're entering says after Hours with the 539 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.239 Beeves and Koogs presented by the PAC twelve. And it's got the logo of 540 00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:59.880 those two schools in the PAC twelve logo, which you know they should put 541 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.199 in X through the one in the twelve and just the PAC two. Yeah, 542 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:06.280 yeah, the PAC two now, So yeah, I mean it is 543 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.519 kind of sad, but like, I don't know, I think it's it's 544 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:15.400 actually kind of it's funny if if it's if it's just to you know, 545 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.039 have some you know, just kind of laugh at yourself and be self deprecating 546 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.800 that you're kind of just left here alone. But when I see now pictures 547 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.159 that that are, you know, you search PAC twelve on Twitter. There's 548 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:30.119 a ton of stuff that comes up from this event, and like it's there's 549 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.400 truly like an MC hosting like on stage, asking the head coach of Oregon 550 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.719 State and the head coach of Washington State questions, and like, I don't 551 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.679 know, like I guess that's not sad because I'm thinking, like who cares? 552 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.440 But then again, like you know, they don't get to go to 553 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.760 an actual media day. And as much as it is talking season and it's 554 00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.559 and it's nonsense because coaches don't really give a lot of information, they give 555 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.480 you the ultimate cliches. It is still a part of the process, and 556 00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.159 like they had to do something right, and we're gonna go to the Mountain 557 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:05.719 West. So yeah, I kind of feel bad for them, I do, 558 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:12.480 but they'll probably be the Mountain West. Like that's wouldn't you say, 559 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.400 we're guessing here, but wouldn't you say that's the most likely scenario is that 560 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.280 they just end up with those Mountain West schools and they can call themselves the 561 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.679 PAC twelve if they want. But we'll all just kind of know that it's 562 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.840 not that. So you're saying that they join the Mountain West or the Mountain 563 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:28.760 West becomes the PAC twelve and they bring those schools over. I mean, 564 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.960 you can't pack twelve brand. It would it would be the same thing, 565 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.360 But they would want to hold on to the brand of the PAC twelve because 566 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.800 well, I don't know, like, actually, you know what they should 567 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.599 do. I would just think of a new name, because you don't want 568 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.280 to call yourself the Mountain West and you can call yourself the PAC twelve, 569 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.480 but everybody would know that's not your name. I honestly wish all the conferences 570 00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.559 would just rename themselves. And I know that won't happen. Well it might, 571 00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.119 it might with the sponsorship thing, if that happens, Yeah, because 572 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.360 they're gonna need everbody's gonna need more money, right, Like I mean, 573 00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.599 twenty two million a year is not gonna be not gonna be easy for a 574 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.000 lot of schools, even those that do appear to be, you know, 575 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.360 in the in the right side of the food chain when it comes to the 576 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.280 financial or I guess I should say the revenue for for college you know, 577 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.960 for for college college athletics. Sorry, I got distracted. I was looking 578 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.159 here, So somebody sent this in and we'll we'll take a look at it 579 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.360 on the other side because we don't have any time left. But I was 580 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.679 talking about Kentucky's non conference schedule, and I wasn't telling everybody that the Kentucky's 581 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:27.519 non conference schedule is a jug or not, because I don't really believe that 582 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.880 it is. But for those acting underwhelmed in like taking digs at Mark Pope, 583 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.760 I think he actually has a tougher schedule than Calipari had last year. 584 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.519 But somebody sent in Kansas's non conference schedule, and you know, I think, 585 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.400 to be honest, like it's you know, I don't know if somebody 586 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.440 sent this in on the text line to like say that Kansas is way tougher 587 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.519 or it's way I guess provide some context just to what you mean. But 588 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:57.760 like, I think it's relatively similar. Like you can play really good teams 589 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.800 in the non conference, maybe two or three of them, and then play 590 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.800 some mediocre mid majors your rival thrown in there, and then play you know, 591 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:07.639 the bums. And I think that's what most teams do. All right, 592 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.800 don't go anywhere at the five o'clock hours. Coming up next, we'll 593 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.320 try to finish strong like we always do right here on Sports Talk seven ninety