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with Rick Dolly Wall. Ryan Henderson is our producers, the man of the
controls, our director, the voice of God. He's Derek Wong. How
are you lovely? Lovely? It couldn't be better? The weather could be
better. I'm so depressed. It's almost June. What month? It's almost
June? June's here and look at this ridiculous weather here, you know,
but it's this is really depressing. And an hour and a half commute today
because of the good positive start to the show because of the rain. You
get stuck left, right, and center. The rain's pouring down. And
then my coffee, the lady screwed up my coffee day no cream? What
part of large with two cream means large with no cream? So I bring
the car, I get you a coffee, I get your coffee. I
come in here, I open it up. There's no cream, Like what
part of large and two cream equals in her head? Large with no cream?
Are you gonna be okay for the show? I've had a really,
really horrible, horrible start to the day. I want to say, to
Dollywall's point, why is it Vancouver rights are so bad driving in the rain?
Says the guy who started driving six months. It doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter, aren't they Paddy yes, hammering on their brakes that necessarily and
just going way too slow and stuff versus other cities. Yeah. No,
but says the guy who hasn't traveled outside of Vancouver classified as raincouver. Right,
we have rain all the time. It's the specific Northwest, and yet
it seems like you don't. I don't buy that. I'll buy an argument
about Vancouver rates in the snow. Yeah, but I excuse people. I
excuse those people, and I hate the people that you know. I'm from
Winnipeg. It's ridiculous the way they drive here. Yeah, well we're not
in Winnipeg anymore. We don't get a ton of snow rain, we get
a lot of and yet people are kind of bad drivers in the rain.
I don't notice any difference in bad driving rain versus sunshine. Oh well,
that's also because you don't usually drive. Jesus driving you. Yeah, but
that's one. I'm looking from the back seat out. I notice that I
don't notice any real real difference there. I have so many things to talk
about that aren't sports related. We're going to get to the connection the second,
all right, But here's here's something that I think our listeners and viewers
will relate to. We're short on Donnie and Dolly merchandise here. And I
say to you, okay, the hats, the hoodies and all of that.
Yeah, And I say to you, and you forget the small on
the medium men's sizes, go with large excel, double XL, triple XL.
You would sell more, not sell, but you would be able to
satisfy people more with double excels versus mediums, right, I think you yeah,
I think you would. Yeah, now now you agree with me.
I never said the majority of our audience no disrespect fits in the category between
large to like double xcel. But I still you would go with me.
But you want to throw out the small and medium people and just completely know
that part of our So I like to include everybody. Okay, yeah,
no, fact don't you don't and and same with you, you don't you
ignore the double EXL triple excels. No, they're out there, trip.
I don't know if we have triple We have had people ask for bigger sizes,
but unfortunately, Hey we're a small business, Mareno are a medium or
double excel team sales. You can only do so many you know what are
those called the what? What's the the p l U or the whatever,
the the you know, the category, the clothing category. Somebody, somebody
will get me the word plus No, no, no, the SKU.
We can only do so many skews. You've lost me here. Okay,
So I'll get more merchant. You know, I'm right on this. The
less small, medium, more double excels I could I get. I get
a lot of requests for our merchandise, and it's like I go to you
know, the little box we have here with some of our merchandise to get
it for a customer or a friend. It's all small and medium. You
know, we should tell them to do buck up on the website to support
the show. Most media guys are extra triple large. Well we know some
not so much in this room, but others. Yeah, people are who
they are. They fit a certain size. That's that's right. Absolutely eat
it the keg, that sort of thing. There's a lot of people there,
Okay, don't don't just inside. So we're working on it, folks
more right on the larger side. Yeah, yeah. You also, I
don't like the hats because you think the hats are small and you have a
massive I don't. I used to be able to. As I've gotten older,
I don't. Your head's gotten bigger. It has. Okay, how
about some Donnie and Dolly umbrellas you are just I gotta walk a dog.
I gotta walk a dog for three hours today. And you can buy an
umbrella anywhere basically the planet. But any kind of rain you could plain,
any kind of cold you can plain. Yeah, I don't buy the fort
st Johns. You are three days from June. Can I say that again
June? Okay, well, earlier this morning you thought it was April.
There's a lot of problems there. Okay, So we're going to work on
the larger merch Yeah, all right, Right, This isn't a criticism of
anybody who's supplying our merchandise, not just saying I think it's mostly your fault,
right, It usually is. I'm just okay, I could go.
I got this microwave issue at my house right now. Well, because you've
got a fancy microwave, Okay, let's move on. I'll talk about it
tomorrow. Okay, we'll see how it goes. My microwave lasted seventeen years
and I have to replace it. But there's an issue. We'll talk about
it at another time. Wis wires, you will if there's a wire problem.
I'm not asking you. That's a long time to have a microwave.
It is waves last a long time. I'm getting an award for it.
I'm in the They're not Inerrability Hall of Fame. What's that Microwaves aren't super
expensive? Okay, money bags, the trim kits are. That's the issue
here. Anybody out there who owns a microwave knows what I'm talking about.
Maybe they don't though, Actually, okay, we'll move on. Cannucks.
All these rumors coming out of Ottawa and Saint Louis and you were saying that
you think that Elias Petterson for Brady Stop stop, it's that It's that time.
I had an executive tell me last night. It's the crazy time of
the year. The NHL drafts are on the corner, free agencies around the
corner. A lot of TM teams are out of the playoffs, a lot
of gms are sitting around, Hey, you know what, we should get
that guy. We should get that guy. Brady Kuchuk's name popped up.
But the Steve Staleys, the Ottawa GM, said there's nothing to it.
But you and I know, don where they're smoked, there's fire. There's
always smoke. There's fire. And then the people automatically assuming, hey,
let's get rid of Pederson and let's move him to Ottawa for Brady Kachuk.
Not how happening. He's got trade protection. No one's taken Kachuk does,
but Petterson doesn't. No, he doesn't, but he has some in it,
but not not in the first year, I believe. Yeah. But
here's the other thing for you did the Did you see the list yesterday?
Ryan? Do you have that list of the top cap Uh, Donnie,
I think top cap cap hits for next year. I think Petterson is fourth
in the NHLAH. What team right now, Donnie has taken on eleven point
six? What team has taken? Yeah? Right here, look at this.
These are the top cap there. Ryan, Oh my god, you
got a lot in there. But look at Peterson at eleven six. He
is the one, two, three, four, fifth, fifth highest cap
hit. Have to have fun moving that, I mean. And last time
I checked Outawa was a payroll Donny. They got a ton of guys making
seventy eight you know million. It's not like they've got, you know,
sixty million in cap space to bring that on. But I understand how people.
It's that it's the fun time of the year. This month coming up,
Donnie and the trade deadline are the two best times for rumors and all
that stuff. So it's gonna kick a fun time of the year. It's
a fun time of the year. Is much fun? Is what the crush
just went through? Yeah? Exactly, other than for a lot of kind
of fans the losing part at the end, Patterson are primy Kentuck makes eight
point two five with four more years left. But it was out there,
so I thought i'd bring up. I thought, maybe it is something,
And what about Martin Natus who we talked about. Teams to say anything further,
just a ton of teams. Again. I checked in on that last
night. A ton of teams are in on that guy. He's twenty five
years old, Donnie. If you're not in on him, not just you're
not doing your job properly, you know, but there's issues there too.
He's a UFA in two years. He's got our brights. It's going to
be expensive. He's not going to be cheap. A lot of models have
him at seven millions. Some models have him at eight million. If you're
gonna buy UFA years, uh, there's that's not an easy transaction. You
got to Carolina happy with the trade. Then I am pretty convinced if you're
close to nikas trade, you have to, uh, Donnie get permission to
talk to his agent about a contract. That guy's not That guy's going to
be over seven for sure. Some thought here we was talking about yesterday.
I'm Perona for natures. Yeah, well, because Carolina could he is a
right handed defenseman. They've got four UFA defenseman Carolina, Donny. So they
got a lot of work to do. And Brent Burns is pushing for you.
Yeah. And there's one other guy that's got one year left. I
can't remember his name, but anyways, their defense is all in flux and
and so. But here's one for you, don The Canucks start their pro
meetings today. This is when all the pro scouts get in the room.
They talk about July first. You know who can we who can we land?
So when the Canucks got Susi and Cole and all these guys last year
started at the pro meetings. Pro meetings for the Canucks start today. And
then also keep in mind Absburg. They also, Donnie got to the Sheldon
Drives. We found out it's not return So now you've got to go get
a veteran guy with experience that could be great with the kids. Wants to
be there a little bit older for Abersburg. So pro meetings start today for
the Canucks. You're going to see them do a lot of work this week
and start targeting guys for July first. The name Anthony Douclaire has come up
in our conversations. Yeah, that's a guy. Oh. By the way,
Elvin said he wants speed and a winger for Peterson and he doesn't have
a ton of money to play with. Anthony do Claire makes sense. But
also, you know, I know Tyler Teffoley is not the fastest guy in
the world. But you know what, Tyler Tefoley's got done hockey sense.
Every team he goes to, he scores. He's great on the power play.
Tyler Tofoley could be a guy they're targeting. They targeted Tyler to Foley
at the trade deadline. Why not take a let you know, there's other
thing. They've had him before, Adam before, So he knows the guys
that Jake Debraska is going to be out there. Jonathan mars the show if
they don't sign, all these guys could sign before July first, But today's
the day they say can ACKs would get Marchisso what is he ever done done
other than score? I don't even want to constantly trophy. Yeah, I
know, but he's a UFA and he hasn't signed with Vegas yet. If
he hits the market done. I mean, why wouldn't you check all the
other you said? You see, you said a cheaper option, that's why
you brought up Oh, I declared it would be cheaper. But why not
check in on everybody on July first if you look of course? Yeah?
Yeah, And so today they will start planting the seats for July first with
the pro meetings. Okay, you mentioned Abbotsford. Manny Malholt is going to
join us at around eleven fifteen or so, just after Craig Button talked to
Craig about well, he's at the Memorial Cup and Sagona on Michigan Memorial Cup
and in the US this time around. Talked to him about last night so
Western Final as well a comeback by the Dallas Stars down to nothing on the
road up at Abington. They win five to three. So we'll talk about
that. But Manny Malhultra, we didn't talk about this much yesterday a couple
of days ago. He replaces Jeremy Carlton as the head coach in Abtsford.
It's his first head coaching gig. The why do I say gig like I'm
a rock and roller here? Ye, I guess I kind of am we'll
move on, move on, first head coaching job at the pro level.
What's the Cannucks thinking here? Okay, as soon as Maholtra is, a
sixteen year old kid signed with the Chiliac Chiefs. Caleb, right, yeah,
Caleb. In mid April, he went high in the draft, in
the OHL eighth overall. But on the same day he went in the OHL
draft eighth, he went and signed later in the afternoon with the Chiliac Chiefs.
I got a few phone calls that day saying, hey, don't be
surprised when Maholtra ends up coaching in the Lower Mainland. I didn't think anything
of it. I thought maybe with the Vancouver Giants or the BC Hockey League,
Chiliac somewhere. I mean, I think he lived in Victoria before,
so as why is from Victoria? Ye, Steve National's sister, Steve National's
sister, he's married to or an Abersburg an assistant. I didn't think anything
of it. And then then a couple of weeks ago they have these issues
with Jeremy Carlton. You know, there's only two reasons a coach will leave
don in the American League from the NHL team want his money won, his
lack of NHL opportunities, like the Canucks may be saying to him, we
don't want you to check other jobs out in the NHL. Those are the
two reasons. And you know Canucks didn't make a call. It in an
offer. I heard it wasn't a super duper offer, but they made an
offer, he rejected it, and now he is out there. He interviewed
for the San jose A coaching job. I don't think he's going to get
it. I think it's going to go to somebody else, and so he's
out there. But Moholtrop, this is a great signing in the sense he
started his coaching career in Vancouver in two sixteen, right, spent three years
at Travis S. Green, then we went to Toronto four years. Sadeen
Twins very tight with him. I would imagine he's got to be doing cart
wheels and we'll ask him about the Sadeen Twins working with the kids in Abbasford.
That's going to be great for them. The other thing with Jeremy Colton,
I mean you're talking about an organization that has an Adams Award winner.
That's it, right, He's not moving he's not moving up, so I
guess he could get a job as an assistan. But things went so well
for the Cannucks of this season. You know. I know, folks,
you're disappointed in the second round playoff exit, but relatively speaking, they went
very well. He's not getting a head coaching job here. You would be
understandable he'd want to move on. Great point. And someone mentioned to me
last night, when Jeremy Calton was hired, who's the coach dog, Bruce
Budrou He's probably thinking, Bruce ain't gonna be here forever. I'll move up.
And now now he knows Talkt's getting an extension and Talkeet's assistants are absolutely
great. There's no progress for him in Vancouver, so it all makes sense.
I okay. Coaching experience aside, yep, with Manny Melhultra. When
you talk about somebody who's been through a lot, he lasted sixteen NHL seasons,
but we're talking about somebody who had big, big expectations, high high
draft pick of the New York Rangers. They put him in a stall next
to Wayne Gretzky. It didn't work out there, spent time in the American
Hockey League famously or infamously in Vancouver, suffered a gruesome eye injury. Like
I say, time in the minors, he had to adjust his game,
you know, where the expectations went down for him offensively, he had to
adjust his game, became a face off specialist and a defensive specialist. He's
got a lot of stories to tell players who would be really frustrated at the
American Highey League level. From that point of view, it sounds like a
really smart hire. It's a good hire, there's no question about it.
And him being a seventh overall pick, he knows high picks coming into Abersburg.
He knows how to deal with him, there's no question. Yeah,
well it's a good move by the Canucks. So Manny's going to join us
around eleven fifteen after that, DTMZ is it just me? Just after eleven
o'clock we talked about Craig Button. He's in sagging off for the Memorial Cup.
We'll talk to Craig again just after eleven o'clock. Big Rye, the
quitter guy coming up later this hour and up next and boy, we'll go
through these numbers maybe later. But the Lions, they did well in getting
fifty cent to be their act for the opening kickoff. The concert kickoff June
fifteenth, their regular season opener against the Calgary Stampeders at BC Place. The
tickets are going crazy and the tickets are extremely affordable. We'll hope, hope
to talk about that later. But with that in mind, we're going to
bring in next segment the COGM of the BC Lions, who have a preseason
game Friday against Edmonton at BC Placed. Then there's that June fifteenth opener.
Neil McAvoy, he's going to join us next. Thanks for tuning in,
folks. Dottian Dolly the team on check Dolly and Dolly. The team is
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The concert kickoff before that event fifty cent. We found out about that
yesterday. Of course, I know you're excited about that, Rick, and
with all of that in mind, we bring in BC Lions co GM Neil
McAvoy. Neil, thanks for doing this, sir, How are you?
Thanks for having me? Don't laugh too hard, Dolly. Just because we
lost in the preseason game doesn't mean you have to laugh. All eames are
real a skeleton crew to Calgary. I just I wasn't laughing, Neil,
Oh, you're laughing all the time. I know what you're doing. You
know what you're doing. But anyways, thanks for having me on. It's
a beautiful day in Kamloops, second the last day here before we head back
to Surrey and like you said, play Vington Priday night. So it's an
exciting time for football and problems. First Columbia, it looks a nice up
there. Speaking of laughing, Neil, we understand you've been working on your
forty time since last week. Is that true? Yeah? Unbelievable that Ryan's
been having me to do this for ten years and I finally gave in and
yeah, worst mistake. Yeah, that's the last time I'll be running a
forty. And I fell. I dove because I thought it was the thirty.
Tucker said that's where the forty was, and I was about five six
yards short. So if I went the full forty or even fifty, I
think I would have won. But hey, you take what you do.
You lost, you move on and here we are. Yeah, I gotta
tell you, Neil, I don't know what that diving strategy. What was
that all about? For people who don't know, you ran a forty up
in Kamloops training camp with the players all around against Lion's assistant GM Ryan rig
Maiden. Well you mentioned it. I went back ten years. Yeah,
he's been wanting to raise me for a while. And I've always said there's
no win for me racing you, because if I win, I should win.
If I lose, well then you're a loser. But at the end
of the day he got me, on a day when I just felt maybe
we'd give the guys. It was sort of the middle of training camp and
the guys need a little bit of a boost and they were working really hard.
So I thought to myself, why wouldn't I put myself out there and
show these guys what running's like, which, obviously the way I ran,
that's not the way it was. And after watching film, I don't know,
gosh, running for me is just not what it used to be.
So anyways, it's done. I lost, I didn't pull up. I
did the full thirty five yards, even though it was supposed to be forty.
But we had fun and the players liked it, and that's all.
I was fifty cent at opening kickoff June fifteenth. Your reaction, well,
I was hoping for the Scorpions Metallica Iron Maiden, but you know what,
that's just not you know what, They're not after you and me. So
after talking to my kids, they're really excited, and after listening and hearing
from the reaction of our fans, they're really excited. So I bought in.
I'm all in, all into it. I'll have to start listening to
fifty cent records and be as a fan when he comes to town. So
I'm excited about it. Well, you mentioned the reaction of your kids.
What about the reaction of the players up at candas when they hear the news.
Well, yeah, obviously, yeah, they were all in. It
was when they first heard. A couple of them sort of were screaming that
name once coach Campbell said we're going to reveal it. So I don't think
they had insider information, but the fact that they he's such an international recording
artist and a guy that just moves the needle. So God bless them are
for you know, bringing a international guy to come and play within a BC
lines football game. It's exciting stuff, Neil. Not the score you wanted
in Calgary at the preseason opener are thirty to six. But that's a lot
about evaluation, is it. Not just you got a lot of rookies,
a lot of guys you haven't seen, and that's all about evaluation. Yeah.
So our mantra going in there was to look at our young guys,
and obviously Calgary's mantra going in was to play their starters and start the season
off that way. That's not the way we wanted to do. We wanted
to look at our young guys as we had and obviously we made some cuts
and Calgary played their starters the first half. So the fact that we were
only down thirteen to three against the Calgary Stampeders first group, I think as
a testament to our young kids that we brought. And you know, at
the end of the day, we only had fifty guys. They had ninety
guys, and so, you know, just war patrition at the end.
They had fresh legs going on into the fourth quarter and we didn't. But
I was happy with our young guys to go into a hostile environment playing against
their starters, and we were able to hold on for the first half and
we were able to look at the young guys what we wanted to do.
We were able to evaluate the young crop of players we have and able to
you know, move the next group of guys onto this week so we can
take a good look and pick the best players for the VC lines in twenty
twenty four. How's that battle going for the backup quarterback position of Vernon Adams.
You don't like injuries, especially that position, But who's impressed you there?
Well, I think Jake Dolegal has really stepped up. He's a kid.
That kid he beat us last year I think twice in the preseason in
the regular season. So when I signed him, I thought, hey,
let's let's let's bring this guy in. He looks like a good guy.
He's he's a good guys tall, I mean, he's he's got all the
attributes that you want and from you know, from just talking to our quarterback
crew and our offensive staff. He's been really a good joy in the room,
on and off the field. So we we are very happy with the
number two spot and now we're just trying to figure out what the number three
spot is, which right now is Chase Bryce. Which you know what,
if you look at the film last week, Chase did exactly what you wanted
him to do. He came into the game with, you know, not
a lot of reps. It's tough being the third guy because you don't get
a lot of reps, and so you have to, you know, when
you're in the game, you have to show us what you can do or
unfortunately just move on. And you know what, it reminds me of the
story and I'm not comparing them, so please don't compare them. But back
in twenty ten, Mike Riley had three possessions to make the football team,
and guess what, look where he is possibly a Hall of Famer. So
Chase went into the game in the fourth or the third quarter last week,
and he played his butt off and was able to move the ball. So
you know what, Yeah, good things happening all around. And like I
say, we were able to evaluate the guys who wanted to in Calvary.
What's his time in the forty better than mine? That's for sure. He
was running the First Life a few times, so he God bless Neil.
What can fans expect roster wise for your second and final preseason game Friday against
Edmonton? Yeah, good question. We're going to play our starters. They
need to get some real reps. I'm not sure what type of team Evanston's
gonna bring. They've already had their home games, so I'm assuming they're going
to bring a younger group over. But our starters are going to play,
you know, the first quarter, second quarter, and you know then we're
going to have to start get into evaluation and start looking at our young guys
to you know, get this football team choosing. Because we play Friday night
and Saturday. We have to make all our final cuts, practice roster,
an injured list, and everything else. So it's gonna come quick. But
we'll have a starting group out there for a while and show our fans just
what this team is going to be like in the twenty twenty four. Looks
nice up there, Neil, thanks for this. We'll talk to you in
a bit and good luck with Everythinganks guys, good luck. Thanks for having
me on. Appreciate Neil McAvoy, co general manager of the of the BC
Lines. You just look at those pictures and you think, man, it
looks it reminds me of Spain, Spain count Lops Lines training camp in Spain,
just like the White Caps. You have to watch this show for a
while to get that. They let go of a really fine running back and
take one Mozelle this week and putting well, I'm not saying putting pressure,
but that just gives you an idea of the expectations they have for William Standback,
another fine running back, a veteran from the Montreal Aloettes. Okay,
break, we'll deal with the pull question next. Donning Delling, the team
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this is a shot at me ccrye. Who will stop the ring? Who
will stop the ring? Because of my winding of the ring again? No,
no, no, it's it's a combination of things. It's you talking
about the rain, and it's Ryan taking a shot at me because I said
I didn't love CCR. Who doesn't love CCR. You also claim all their
songs sound the same. Yeah, they do. This sounds the same as
fortunate Son. See you played this song because it might be the one song
that doesn't sound the same. No, that's not true. By the way,
Springsteen does an outstanding cover of this. I could go on about these
these subjects, but we've got some work to do, and you've got micro
waves to talk about. In other things. CCR Springsteen in the same category
in that and I talked about it yesterday. I don't why bringing it up
again. And then if you tell one of the you know, a fan
of theirs that you like them, you don't love them, then they think
you hate them, which I don't. Looking up my back door. Oh,
I could listen to that for hours, looking out my back door CCR,
I could look listen to that for hours on a loop. What pull
question? All right, where we're going here? Waddling Dog poll question?
Rick, visit one of Victoria's favorite pubs. You can get into the back
door where you can enjoy twenty taps or twenty screens and twenty screens. You're
home for the Canucktion UFC. Come sit and stay at the dog today.
I know it's CCR, but crank it anyway. While Rick was doing his
read, this is good, This is good, This is good, calming
music, blue collar music. Ryan, get it up our waddling dog pop
pole question. What's the best way for the connuction? Improved the roster of
the summer trades sixty one percent leading the way, but free agency at thirty
four percent. Donnie, the only problem with trades is unless you're gonna do
a money in, money out trade is gonna involve draft picks at some point.
And the Canucks, if you look at the last five drafts, including
this year, they don't have a first or second. They have traded their
first round pick three times in the last five years. They have not had
a second round pick four of the last five years. It's a tough way
to build a farm team when you're trading so many second round picks, including
this year, they will have a first or second. If you're going to
go the trade route, it's going to cost you draft picks. If you're
going to go after a big name. And they've been trading draft picks the
last five years, how's that worked out? At an alarm, how has
it worked out? What do you think? What do I think? Well?
I don't see a parade, yeah all riot, and I don't see
any blue chip prospects in Absberg. Like I don't see a ton of young
guys in Absberg because they keep trading second round picks. They've traded four of
the five last year. Last five years, they've traded four second round picks.
They have to think they're pretty close though, So I like you know
how I feel about things. I was all for the rebuild, and I
guess I was proven wrong, although we'll see long term how that goes.
But it's an interesting time because you know they want to maintain the excellence that
was displayed this season, and how do you do that when you know people
are going to leave? And then you bring up the object and you brought
it up. There very few draft picks. I don't know what have they
got over the next three years in terms of picks in the first three rounds?
Not many, not many? But do they care about that or do
they care about now the present? And that would make some sense given what
they did against the Oilers absolute what they did the spring. Yep, I
agree, but I just I'd be careful trading any more draft picks. Don
they don't't have a first or second This year they traded Biscavige. You remember,
you know last year third round. The kid had a great year in
the OHL. They moved him in the Lindham trade. Twenty twenty one.
No first round or the second round, or is Kolmovich she's had a tough
goal. Twenty twenty No first or second rounder? Yourmo Yonimo? I know
I should have just stayed away from it. But my point is twenty twenty
no first on, second or third round pick. They're killing themselves and this
isn't the current regime, Donnie. I'm going hold on every time I bring
this up, you say they're killing themselves and whenever IPEd the previous versions,
look at twenty twenty one. A second, these guys are the ones that
they you know, well, traded away a first rounder for Groucci there right,
Grouccy Heronic. Oh yeah, Heronic. Uh. They traded it first
for him. They traded a first for Lindholm. They traded a second to
get rid of Dickinson's contract, which again they brought him in at They cost
him a second. They cost him a second to get rid of him.
Not good. You know that Jason Dickinson finished ahead of j T. Miller
in the Selky voting. Are you serious? I believe? So? Wow?
He had a good year, yeah, and he got he got rewarded
with the new contract. He was great in Dallas, comes to Vancouver nothing.
He got to hang as a better player than j. T. Miyler
by the way. That boy he just struggled here in Vancouver. And then
he goes to Chicago. He's been great. Have you seen these ads?
This, these Boston Pizza ads, Like I'm watching the game last long,
just last night, but they've been running just Boston Pizza advertisement. Check,
Derek, do we know this? He doesn't know. Okay, I'm probably
gonna get but this thought that we should all and we should all cheer for
the Oilers, for the Oilers or the remaining Canadian team, Like if your
team gets knocked out, you should cheer for the remaining Canadian team or teams,
in this case, the Oilers, Right, Brian, You're up on
this more than more than I am. But nothing bothers me more, well
maybe my microwave situation right now. Nothing bothers me more than this thought that
because Canada hasn't one Canadian team hasn't won a Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety three,
that if you the team that you follow gets eliminated, you should all
get on board with the other, you know, the remaining Canadian teams and
share. Boston Pizza is is pushing this right, and I get it.
They're trying to sell their product, but I just don't. I never feel
the need to, you know, pull for the oilers as a conduction.
You know, I'm a guy the conduction cheered for them and all all that.
I don't want to see the Order's one a sixth Cup. I don't
think I did. I want to see McDavid. I'm conflicted there. I
do want to see McDavid in dry stdle win a Cup. There's such great
players, So donny, let me throw this at Nucks. Canucks were twenty
eleven. Did you get the field that the rest of the country, No,
it was. I think it was documented. Wasn't it that Toronto was
anti anti Vancouver ninety four? Get it? Of course they were in ninety
four. Did you get the feeling that Canada was behind the Canucks? I
didn't, No, I was. It was a little different then because you
know, a Canadian team had won the year before in ninety three, so
that thought wasn't there. But there's been such a drought that the subject comes
up seemingly every year, and once the Canucks are out, you know,
I think a lot of people just go, okay, well, not necessarily
pulling for Edmonton or the least, but that's the whole ad campaign, no
I, and maybe it really happens. They've got us talking about it.
You haven't rallied around other Canadian franchises. Maybe we should and it'll it'll,
it'll spur the boys on, it'll give them the boost they needed. I
find that that is more of and I don't mean well, I do you
mean to knock the city more of a Toronto thing than a Vancouver thing or
a Montreal or Edmonton what that? You know we have to pull for the
rest of Canada or pull for the other Canadian You think that's a Toronto thing.
The hate I'm talking about corporately and and Rogers and Bell Yeah, okay,
yeah, I think they, somehow, in their ivory towers, believe
that the guy in the streets, the average fan, think people in Calgary
want Edmonton to do well. Yeah, but Donnie, don't you see okay
looking in Toronto? Right? Uh, the Jay's acclaimed as Canada's team,
the Raptors, we the North. Everyone everyone's a Raptor fan, right,
So I think that's where the thinking comes from, right from Toronto. Yeah,
no, I know, but that's why I think they buy into that
kool aid, because look at hey, they're already doing it for the baseball
and the the basketball team, maybe the dude for the hockey team as well.
But this came to a head last night in the stands, yes,
Rogers, where we were going in Edton. Here's the video of it.
So they had representatives, they had two Green Men, fake green Men,
they had a Jets fan, and then they had somebody that's supposed to be
like the remember the dark guy, the dark guy in Toronto. Oh yeah,
right, dark he came to me him and it kind of caught fire.
So that first of all, Number one, if you can't have the
don't do it at all. Its horrible looks horrible. Number two, the
Green Men there, they gotta get very You gotta get the Tarzan thing around
us something one time. I'm not watching it. Turned that here Now you've
got me looking at it. Green Men here do a better job of not
being so revealed. They got to get a tar with the guys here who
we know. Yeah, we're John's, don't they if they don't Adam and
Ryan? Yeah, yeah, can the real Green Men sue these guys.
They could buy those suits anywhere. That's the ripping them off. They should
have copyright. They got. It's the representative from Vancouver. But think about
it. It's a Toronto fan, a olymipicg fan, a couple of Vancouver
fans cheering for the oilers. That's not gonna happen. Ryan Turn, I
don't want to look at that guy. Turn the turn it off. The
tall guy. I've seen him fine. And by the way, they tweeted
out Boston Pizza did before the game photos of these fans and then they said
doing whatever takes to break the thirty year curse hashtags. It's not their job
to break the curse. It's the job of the Edmonton oiter is to break
the Look. Look we're talking about the piece is brilliant. I'm sorry,
it's they so you're a true living fan, But you're right, it's working.
Talking about the other thing that bothers me is they're taking up four seats.
Yeah, so how did they get the four seats? These guys who
are they're representing Boston? Boston Pizza buys these seats for actors where they're real
fans. They're not available to those people. I don't like it. I'll
explain to you, and they'll bring it that way too deeply, I think.
But okay, now, I mean it got a lot of pup.
Especially last night. Like I said, the ads were, well, we're
still here on this show. The ads were kind of but when this happened
lastly in the stands, it kind of caught fire on Twitter. But maybe
that should have been our poll question today, what you know? Do you
care if another Canadian team other than the Canucks wins the Stanley Cup. It's
breaking that thirty one year drought. We can ask it at some point it's
going to be ninety five percent. Okay, can we show that goal by
the way from long Jason Robertson, Yeah, Ebonton and Dallas, third period,
three to three, Jason Robertson scores what turned out to be the winning
goal, and he got a that's his hat trick goal, by the way,
And he was coming under a lot of criticism, but so is Jeff
Skinner here, and I thought he was sorry, sir at Skinner, Jeff
Skinner, He's as a lot of people in Edmonton who might think that would
be a good move. I thought this was a It was a great move
by Robertson. He knew exactly what he was doing. The bank all the
way, Yeah, no, get him moving right and create some space there
he knew exactly what he was doing. Should Skinner had played it better,
absolutely, But a smart play by a smart hockey player. But it really
doesn't matter to Edmonton fans there all as the shot goes in off his But
they're all over the Skinner as they have been earlier in the playoff. He's
been. He was good up until yesterday, right, but prim he was
good after returning in the Vancouver series. Okay, so if you want to
make him escapegoat, fine, But the Oilers had a power outage in the
second period? What was shots? Shots at one point? Well? Can
I say they? The Stars scored three goals in the second period before the
Oilers got their first shot. Yes, so I mean that's not Stuart Skinners
no, No, but and the and and the fifth goal is an empty
netter. So he gave up four. Yeah, I don't know. The
conversation around the Oilers always seems to be the same, much like Toronto goal
attending defense. While you know what, minus twelve eighteen eighty has been outscored
with him on the ice in the playoffs. That's not good for a guy
making nine point five million. A questionable penalty at the end, and he
has taken some criticism tripping there at the blue light. Now, yeah,
I'm not so sure if you make that call at that point, but they
did. On the Stars went to victory five to three or of the orders.
So they're now up two to one, and then the Eastern Final continues
tonight with Game four. Panthers should be up in that series. Yeah,
Rangers are up to one, two overtime wins. Panthers with a better team
in Game one. They were the better team in Game three that they lost,
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hold on. First of all, I want to show this a photo
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I mean, you ever go down to the States, they noticed the
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exactly. Okay, let's talk about the NBA now. Last night Celtics sweeping
the Pacers to Indiana. Here's the road for the South. Look at this.
So they beat the heat in round number one, four one, then
they beat the Cavs for one, and then last night this weep. So
they've just been dominating the Eastern Conference side of things, had some injury issues
Pacers Haliburton. Yeah, the Pacers did have some injury issues, blowing nine
point leads in the fourth quarter in both Game three and in Game four.
So I mean, but look at the Celtics were the odds on favorite to
win the whole thing pretty much all year long, and now they're getting a
chance to do that. So tonight Western Conference Final. How about Dallas?
How about being a Dallas sports fan right now? Well, you know what,
you forget the Stars and Mavericks. Fine, you forget because it was
kind of a forgettable World Series. Yes, Texas, so the Raining World
Series Channel Texas has struggled to start this year as well. They're still the
second place behind Seattle in that in that division. Yeah, but they're under
five hundred. And let's be honest, everyone's going, yeah, okay,
wake me in August. But still, you're right, Raining MLBT champions.
The Cowboys aren't around right now, to break your heart. The Cowboys are
the Cowboys exactly. But yeah, but so tonight, if the MAVs win,
the MAVs will sweep the Timberwolves. Guys nine days off potentially between the
end of the conference finals and next Thursdays NBA Finals start. Why would you
do that? Sweep the sweeps? Right, this is what we'll move it
up. Yeah, but you know what, Rick, the amount of the
marketing that goes on on when they're starting. The final is the final?
The finals? NBA is the finals? Yeah, stand in the cup final?
Why I'm going with final? By the way, No, it should
be finals. It's more than one game. No, but the final is
one event. But it's not one event, it's potentially seven events. No,
but the final itself is one thing. Okay, I know I'm right.
Ask Shannon about it tomorrow and he'll probably set us. But anyway,
it could be back to back sweeps, and uh put it this way,
the NBA more than happy with a Boston Dallas final finals. Sorry in Boston,
you got it. I mean they were probably getting a little nervous if
there was any chance of an upset Indiana Minnesota and the NBA Finals, that
wouldn't have been so great the ratings wise. But Boston and Dallas could be
interesting. You think the Dallas want to me New York left Empton, New
York, New York for sure? Well, I think Ebonton because of David
and Dry said yeah, well and and I mean, yeah for sure,
even though it's not a huge mark. John Shannon told you guys last week
we bring them up again about how the New York TV market isn't super duper.
What does he know? Wow, yeah, it's in TV. They
have a lot of a lot of fans that you know, go how many
fans they have Florida in Florida packed with Ranger fans Pittsburghstanzo was there, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, absolutely, But what is it like a two hour
flight New York to Florida? Yomps ye, Fred Klompas, Yeah, Frank
Frank Now Frank Costanza. Okay, I think of a Ted couple dead,
Ted Copple, Yeah, I don't know what it was. Compas's first name.
Are you sure it's not Frank Frank Costanza? Who's Frank? The guy
that ran Doubleka Vista, Stratta, Doubleka Vista and Seinfeld. People are screaming
at their TVs right now, right now they are Jack Clompus, Jacky sort
of close, Jack Frank kind of close. Uh. But a lot of
people, of course. The other thing with the very quickly Kyrie Irving potentially
going back to Boston. That's going to be talk about a villain for the
Celtics fans to go after. That would be Yeah. That backcourt in Dallas
is setting all sorts of records. Yeah, just awesome. Yeah, Okay,
that's it for me. It's the best Riddy get come up. I'm
still on Jack Cops here, Jack Columbus, Clumbus, that Columbus. Get
a clip of Jack Columpus. I'll try and leading into Craig Button. I
wond if Button knows him. Probably he's at the Memorial Cup though, first
time and what did I say? Twenty six years? Memorial Cup is in
the United States? Yeah, Spokane was the last time the Memorial Cup was
held in the US. Yeah so and before that, seattleed ninety one,
so they've held it in the US before. You've done your research on this,
did you cover Kamloops? The kamloops one to remember the goal with six
seconds? You know what? I remember who the MVP of that tournament was.
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Craig yet? Greg Button trying to get through to our show from Saganaw,
Michigan where the Memorial Cup is going on Saganaw in London. Have started two
and zero in that tournament. So hopefully we'll be able to talk to uh
to Craig about that. Many Maulter is going to join us in the next
segment. We talked about him earlier and about what happened with the Jeremy Carlton
and not seeing advancement in the Canucks organization. It was one of the one
of the reasons Johnny right, and of course with Rick talk at winning and
Adams Award, the chances of him getting another job as a head coach in
the NHL in Vancouver slim, slim, very slim. And you've got other
candidates in Vancouver, but many Mahultra. We believe and everybody believes a great
coach because of what he's gone could has the potential to be a great head
coach because of what he's gone through. Okay, let's let's do this still
not Craig, Nope, Okay, Well, let's let's talk about BC Lions
in their concert kickoff. Rick, you had some numbers, and I bleeve
Ryan you did as well when it comes to how successful the Lions have been
ticket wise in the wake of announcing fifty cent as the concert kickoff act.
Okay, so yesterday they released upper Bowl tickets fifteen thousand, and they sold
ten thousand in twenty four hours. The lower bowl there's only singles left,
so if you go buy those ticket sales, Donnie, lower bowls around twenty
seven thousand. They sold ten yesterday, so they're at thirty seven. They're
on pace to beat the home openers last two years when they had other music
acts there as well. They're gonna easily get over forty thousand. This is
going to be a big crowd, and I wonder, Donnie, if they
can get closer to fifty thousand. We'll see. Okay, and Ryan,
you have some information regarding the more tickets being available. Okay, he's just
trying to hook up with that, right. But apparently the Lions made X
out of what do you do say? Rick fififte available yesterday. Yesterday,
they've now made one of the end zone end zones available Inopera Bowl. So
obviously they've looks like they've hit a home run to borrow a baseball term when
it comes to fifty cent in the concert kickoff again June fifteenth. It's a
Saturday, four o'clock started at BC Place, Lions in Stampeder's and Our understanding
is fifty cent or fifty as I call him. We'll start at three o'clock.
Oh so he's starting at three. Yeah, how many songs? Well,
I think it's usually three or four, that's it. Yeah, and
then let's let's say four. Then they have to, you know, disassemble
the stage and get ready for a football game and warm up and all that.
Craig yet went one minute before we get to Craig. What about these
stories? I think it's Frank Savelli who's tweeted all these stories about Les Petterson
And is the knee problem that he announced at the interviews, Yeah, took
the Canucks by surprise. Yeah, you hearing about that? Yeah, well
we'll find out more tomorrow when we have JP Barry ellis Patterson's agent on the
show. We'll ask him about that. But everything I've been told that he
was dealing with issues health wise, he wasn't one hundred percent and he came
out Donnie on his own and said I had a knee issue. Then talk
had said it was tender night is. Yeah, but Sirvelli is reporting that
it's an excuse and that Patterson just is using that as an excuse for what
did he have one goal five assists in thirteen playoff games? Obviously numbers not
that we would attribute to elious. You would think you would do better.
But did you hear the Canucks didn't know anything about it? I was told
all along he was dealing with something, and he came out and said it
was a knee. We have to have to believe what he said, but
Sirvelli's hinting that that maybe he's just using that as an excuse. Well,
if it is tend to ice in the knee, it's a pretty good.
But I find it kind of strange because it was it. You know,
it was reported. This was on a podcast. I was talked about on
a podcast by Frank about how the Canucks didn't know anything about it, but
then talking went on to say, oh, it's ten to nights. Well,
I think he said that the Canucks thought it was he overplayed it and
it wasn't as bad as he was letting it on to me. Let's bringing
Craig button t s and scouting director. He's at the Memorial Cup and saganaw
Michigan. Craig, thanks for doing this, sir, How are you?
I? I am great, and you know just listening to the conversation.
I mean basically, somebody's calling Elias Petterson a liar. I think Elias Petterson
came out and told you what he said and to me, straight out of
the horse's mouth, straight out of Elias Petterson's mouth. I mean, bottom
line is is you got to believe the player. Yep, Craig, You're
at the Memorial Cup. London and Sagana start out two and oher, what's
sticking out for you? What's your takeaway after a couple of days. Oh,
the takeaway is and I don't give you a couple of takeaways. Takeaways
are Drummondville looks like a little bit overmatched, a little bit, a little
bit behind the competition. Mushjaw has had some really good stretches of play.
They haven't been able to carry it through uh, you know, a full
game. They've scored eight goals and in four in each of the two games
and they haven't won either game. And goaltending has been has not been very
good for the Mushjah Warriors London and Saganaw. London has played very well.
I don't think they've been right on top of their game, nor has uh
and Saganaw to me, has played the style of game that they like to
play. It looks right now to be straightforward with you, like a Saganaw
London Memorial Cup Championship game. Craig in Vancouver, Now, what's your opinion?
And this player has become polarizing in the last week or so. He
had a really interesting end of season interview session with the media. But your
opinion of soon to be RFA Philip Ronic, Yeah, I mean he was
a good player for the Vancouver Canucks this year. He was a player that
had there was to me that was really important to the success that the Vancouver
Canucks had this season. And I mean he was asked at the end of
that I saw the exchange. He was asked if he was hurt and he
said no, I wasn't hurt at all. And again goes back to what
I said earlier. You know, believe the player. You know he obviously
we know that there was a dip in his points, but at the same
time, you know, we measure things on points so much of the time.
And I think that Philip contributed a lot to this team. I thought
that he gave them really good, purposeful play. I think if there's anything.
I mean, And you guys asked me this question one day on the
show. He asked me. You know, people were saying it begins with
an eight, and I said that Philip Ronick begins with an eight. It's
not going to begin if I'm the manager of the Vancouver Canucks, It's not
going to begin with an eight. For me, he's gone. So I
don't know that's factoring into some of the you know, we're Philip Pronic.
You know, players start to, you know, think about their contracts and
try to try to figure out where they fit. Canucks have them for at
least another year. I mean, he can go to arbitration that they can
find a way to make the deal on a one year on a one year
contract, He'll be in Vancouver next year because I because I think he's important
to the Vancouver Canucks. Hey, Craig Martinet just out of Carolina. A
lot of teams after him right now. His dad came out in the paper
and said the kid wants to trade. Not that it matters what the dad
says, but anyways, tons of teams are called in Carolina. Canucks are
one of them. Whoever acquires him, what are they getting Craig Well,
I mean he's a really a very skilled player. I mean he's he's somebody
that can play in all situations in the game. He can kill penalties,
he gets skate, he's got a he's got a he's got a high he's
got a high skill set. And those types of players that are not are
not numerous. And so certainly if something like that comes along and you hear
the rumblings, the father comes out, it doesn't matter. You make the
phone calls. You make the phone calls to say hey, you know we're
interested. You know you think about contracts. Again. Back to contracts,
and one thing that Tom Dunnan has not been hesitant to do. He did
it with Dougie Hamilt did Elias Lendhall. He said, Okay, it's not
going to work. Care will trade you. I don't think there's any hesitancy
if they feel that if something can't be worked out contractually and it's not going
to satisfy the player and satisfy their own internal contract, I guess measurements that
you're going to move along. So now teams know that. I think Caroline
has made that clear over the past number of years. So you see if
there's a way to get that type of a player. He's a young player,
he's a good player. It'll cost you just you know, you don't
get these players for nothing. But at the same time, you've got to
inquire when you when you hear about potential availability of a player like net Shash
at that age and his contract too. Uh, he's in r f A
with our Brights, Greig, it's not going to be cheap. Manny Maholter
a new head coach of the Abosford Canucks. The Canucks parted ways with Jeremy
Calton. Greg your thoughts on many ended up in Abasford. I'm really happy
for Manny. I think this is a great step for him. He's been
an assistant coach in the National Hockey League. It now gives him an opportunity
to go run the bench himself, run a team himself. I mean,
everybody has a fondness for Manny Mahultra and and and they should. And I
think that as you progress in the in the coaching ranks, if you want
to be a head coach, you got to go be a head coach.
This gives him an opportunity with a franchise and an organization that he played for.
He might not be familiar with the current with with with with a lot
of the current management and coaches, but he's familiar with with with the with
the geography, He's familiar with the with the fans and everything that goes with
it. And I think that his son, I don't think his son is
going to come out and play in Chilliwack. I believe in the BHL.
He was a top pick in the Ontario Hockey League. But you know,
Manny's son is looking at taking a different path, and so I think it
works out really nicely. I think it works out great for the Vancouver Canucks
organization with Manny in Abitsford thinks it works. I think it works out great
for Manny in his pursuit to be a head coach. And I think it
works out great for the Maholture family with his son, with their with their
son coming out playing in the BHL, uh to spend on and you know
Manny's high end, He's quality. Craig. Should we be alarmed that Canada
finished out of the medals of the World Championships. I think we need a
summit. I think that when you start to think about Canada. I mean,
I think the question should be asked, what was Andre Toortney thinking about
in the shootout when he has his own power, David Severson taking shots?
Okay, that's where the question should be. It should be laid at the
feet of Andre Tourdney. I don't get it. I don't think you can
give me an answer where I would get it. So it's a team that
was right there. So you're losing a shootout to Switzerland. That was a
really, really curious decision. Uh and quite frankly, I think it was
poor. I think it was important when he made it. I don't care
if they scored. I think it's a poor decision. Yeah. And and
but Dard I didn't see much time in overtime as well, Craig, I
mean, not to pile on here, but that was strange. Well,
you know what you do when coaches had the run of that, Like Andre
Chorney is somebody that that I have tons of respect for. This is about
decision making in critical moments. They weren't good. Let's let's call it.
It's not piling on. That's the role. When you're a coach, you
better be ready to take the brunt of criticism, you get the accolades,
you get the you get the applause when things go right, Well, guess
what, you made decisions where it didn't go right. So now it's not
piling on it. It's fair game. Greg uh, off to sagging on
the Memorial you're in sagon up, but off to the Memorial Cup you go.
Thanks so much for doing this. We appreciate. We know you're busy.
Yeah, yeah, well you guys have a great day. Thanks you
bet. Craig Button, TSN scouting director. Remember when Canada had I can't
remember the exact time period, but there were issues where there weren't very many,
very many medals being one, I'm going to guess it was around you
know, ninety when they had the disappointment at the Olympics, had a bad
stretch. They had a bad stretch and they had the summit and what's wrong
with Canadian hockey? And that's what Craig was referring to. And I've always
said that that's a good thing. Yeah, you know, you expect when
it comes to hockey. Canadians expect the best. And I don't think it's
time for a summit right now. But back then, even though it got
criticized, I thought it made sense. I was kind of proud. Yeah.
Absolutely, you expect gold and that's the way it should be when it
comes to hockey in Canada. It's still the best country producing hockey players.
Look at the last two NHL drops. The first or all pick has come
from the Lower Mainland Canada. So it's still number one. Okay. Manny
Malhultra new head coach of the Abbotsford Canucks. He's going to join us next
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Manny Mahulter is going to join us now, a new head coach of the
Abbotsford Canucks. Spent the last four seasons as an assistant coach with the Leafs
sixteen NHL seasons as a player three with the Canucks. Of course, he
helped get them to the twenty eleventh Stanley Cup Final. Also a former development
coach and assistant coach with the Canucks, and his son Caleb is going to
be playing with the Bchl's Chiliwak Chiefs just down the road from Abbotsford, and
Manny joins us. Now any long time, no talk to How are you
sir? Doing well? Guys? Thanks for having me on today, No
problem. How did this job happen for you? How did it come about?
Uh? Well, Ryan Johnson reached out to Toronto to see if there
would be an opportunity to talk to me about the position. So we met
for over the course of a week. We had a number of conversations just
kind of outlining what was going on in Abbotsford, the trajectory of the team,
where they were headed, the staff that was in place, and kind
of the rules that would that would be put on my plate. And after
those discussions it was it was very clear that it's definitely something that I want
to be a part of and and and I'm looking really forward to to being
back in the in the Canucks organization. So what intrigues you. It's a
tough job about being a head coach and who would your coaching influences be.
It is a tough job, and UH, I feel like I'm ready for
that next step in my career and the next step in my path. The
thing that intrigues me the most is, UH, just understanding players these days
and the ability to teach. I have a firm understanding now and after being
around different organizations and seeing different young players develop that each individual player is exactly
that they're an individual. They learn differently, they understand differently, they they
take communication differently. So just getting to under to know players and and build
those relationships with something that I'm really looking forward to. UH. And then
in terms of coaches that that I look up to or if I've learned the
most from UH, just looking over my my playing career, every coach that
I've had along the way, there's there's good and bad, and you take
those good things that you like, you take those those drills that you like,
and and on the on the flips, there's there's certain things that just
don't jive with players, and you learn that you know certain things shouldn't be
said, shouldn't certain things shouldn't be done. I'm looking to implement a lot
of those things. I did learn a lot from from Travis Green in my
time in Vancouver, you know, being in Toronto, the the offensive minus
Sheldon Keith or just obviously my last two stops. But you definitely learn a
lot from from the people you're around on a day to day basis. Maddie,
twenty six years ago, you were a seventh overall NHL draft pick.
Now you're seeing these young kids come through minor hockey. You just put your
kid through UH Toronto minor hockey, which is very competitive. You know what
it costs and the competition. What's the difference in young kids today than when
you were a seventh overall pick way back when. I think if you if
you go into any minor hockey rink, especially in the Toronto area, the
skill level that you're you're witnessing is unparallel's It's incredible the skill level that young
kids have today, the ability to make saucer passes, one timing pucks at
a young age. They're just playing the game the right way at such a
young age these days, it's impressive. To watch, Whereas back in the
day it always just used to be bigger, faster, stronger. You learn
things as you go, chip and chase, dump the puck, you know,
finish hits, whereas now you see a much greater implementation of skill and
speed and finesse in the game at a young age. That's the biggest difference
for me right now. When you walk into a minor hockey rink Manny the
Saedine Twins working with players in Avisburg, Boy, oh boy, how excited
are you to be? We all know you guys are all good friends,
but excited to work with these guys? How excited are you? That's one
of the major factors in my decision to take this job on was the ability
to work with those guys and the people that are in place within the organization.
I've heard nothing but good things. But Hank and Danny, for me,
are two incredibly special individuals on two fronts. Obviously, you look at
what they accomplished as hockey players and back to back league MVPs one hundred point
seasons. Just watching them and having the privilege of sitting on the bench and
watching them wheel and deal in their prime was incredible and that everybody sees.
Everybody knows, but it's the people off the ice that not everybody just has
a chance to know and understand. So for me, yes, it's great
that they work with the guys on the ice and they're going to develop their
skill and become hockey players. But one of their big gifts that they're going
to give to these guys is their ability to show them how to be a
pro, how to be a good person, how to carry yourself on a
day to day basis, Because for me, those two guys exemplified it on
a daily basis. Their leadership came through lead by example and the way they
showed up every single day, the way they worked hard to practice, the
way they committed themselves in the summer to training and getting better. There's no
better example for a young player to watch than Hank and Danny. All Right,
Mannie family time, what can you tell us about Caleb Manholtra and why
he decided on the BHL after being a high OEHL draft pick. Well,
that was a decision that he made prior to the draft, and it's unfortunate
I find that that kids have to make a life altering decision at the age
of fifteen, but so be it. And we gave them all the information
and showed him the two paths that he had available to him, and he
decided that he wanted to go to the NCAA route. So I'm proud of
him for making that decision on his own and thinking things through. Was it
was not a very easy decision for him. And then once he chose that,
obviously the in my opinion and talking to a number of other people,
the BHL is the best developmental league out there for players that want to go
the nc double A route. So he's he's fortunate to uh to be in
a great organization. Again, I've heard nothing but good things about Brian Maloney
and what he's got going on in CHILIWAC. He had the chance to visit
towards the end of their playoff run and just kind of get a lay of
the land and really enjoyed what he saw, really enjoyed being a part of
what they were doing there. And and again he's really looking forward to his
next season. So it harder to be a hockey coach or a hockey parent
hockey parent for sure. For me especially, I have to make that clear,
clear cut decision that as I go to the rink, I am strictly
his father. I'm watching him and encouraging him and supporting him. And there's
always the coach brain that wants to take over and analyze the game. But
no, as I go to the rink to watch my kids play, I'm
strictly there in a hockey dad role and enjoy and love watching them play in
practice every day. Yeah, we're both hockey parents. Man, we know
what it's like. One more before this first time you've been on our show,
but one more before you go, and that's you've gone through so much
in your career and it just gives you such a solid foundation as a coach
of a young man at a young man at the minor league level of sixteen
NHL seasons, a high draft pick and you bounced around a bit, suffered
a tough injury. Everybody knows about that in Vancouver, but there's a story
And I think I got this right. You get drafted by the Rangers,
and did they put you in a stall next to Wayne Gretzky? If I
got that right? And what was that like? Yeah? That was that
was my introduction to the NHL. I went in for my first exhibition game,
and I looked around the room, and I looked in all the typical
places you would think we're in a bad rink. I believe we're in Carolina,
and kind of looked around the corner, looked in the shower, like,
where would they put my stall? As a young eighteen year old kid,
So I went back out in the hallway and asked the trainings, where's
my stuff? Like, you're next to grets So I went back in the
in the room and obviously he had prime seating in the middle of the room,
and I went out, I can't sit next to this guy. Wait,
why would you put me beside Wayne gretzkyin like he told us to put
your stuff there. So it was it was a very humbling experience for me,
obviously a childhood idol of mine. So I remember just being in awe
sitting next to him and listening to him and just watching him put on his
gear. I was I was in awe every day I went to the rink.
Yeah, let me guess he was. He was a nice guy.
Hey man, you get that stall in the shower, that's that's not a
good thing. I'd take the one next to gretzk any day. Hey,
thanks so much, thanks so much for joining us. We really appreciate and
all the best to you the Abbotsford Connucks and certainly Caleb as well. My
pleasure. Guys, thanks for having me on you bet Manny Mahultra, head
coach of the Abbotsford Connuction. I said this before earlier in the show.
All that he's been through as a high high draft pick of the New York
Rangers, sitting beside Redskin his first game, all of that and the injuries
going up and down from the American League to the NHL, all sorts of
organizations. Like I said, solid foundation when it comes to teaching young players
at the AHL level. They all want to get to the NHL, but
teaching them what the game is all about at the pro level, because it's
not just a game, it's a business. Well, and he had his
ups and down seventh overall Rangers twenty six years ago, had his ups and
downs. It's not smooth everyone's path. There's not very few guys have a
path that is smooth. Donny. A lot of ups and downs. He
knows about it. Yeah. The other thing I love about him too,
He's one of these players and I talked about this a lot as well.
He had to justice game that he had to become more of a defensive minded
forward. He faced off the guy the whole nine yards. He was a
very dependable player. Like Cottocks made a great choice there. Manny Malholter,
head coach of the Abbotsford Cannucks. We got some business to do, Ryan,
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Jim Cuddy and Craig Greg Keelor. They've made it to the Canadian Songwriters
Hall of Fame, which leads to the question, what took so Longe Tom
Cochran, people have been around for a while. Oh, Tom Cockr's so
good Life is a Highway. I love that song. You know when you
think Tom Cochran, what's the first thing that comes to mind? Songs?
Okay, I'm gonna get serious for I think Luke Bardon is what I that's
the song big League, big League, big Leak, big leagues, great
songs, amazing. I always remember thinking, man, is he gonna be
able to pull this off? On mate? It's just such a just amazing
moment. So they get into the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame, which announces
inductees every two years. So maybe that explains that the delay. Mm hmm.
It's awful to say, but the Canucks have done those types of things
really, Queen Danny Boy, Yeah, you know, like absolutely yea,
Yeah, they kept things simple and they often work. Yeah. A lot
of that is Mike Hall, Yeah, who used to be the producer at
Sports Page. Right. He comes up with a lot of their ideas uh,
May twenty eighth, we have ever gonna jump right ahead here May twenty
eighth, eight birthdays. The line is set at five by Big Saddle Tammy's
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I have as told much Tammy, much like Rick. Yeah, well,
you don't want to take your horse out in the rain like this,
right, you would know that you worked on a farm. Yeah, but
not do you have horses on your farm? God? There was no horses,
no cows, and yet Big Saddle Tammy spent some time on your Okay,
let's go here we go eight birthdays. Sixty nine year old former Fly's
defenseman who had an eighty two point season with Philly in eighty five eighty six,
broke into pro hockey with the Houston Arrows of the WHA alongside his brother
Marty and how Gordy. That's not good enough, Marty Gordy and Mark Howe,
Mark Howe, Martha, this is so sad that I had how I
had how Oh, come on, I had to come up with that.
I think you have to leave Red Wings. That veteran left winger from Quebec
drafted twenty six to overall by Saint Louis and oh seven once spought after the
Canucks selected Patrick White pros Yeah Howe, former NHL defenseman and former Canucks assistant
coach under Pat Quinn, went on to become head coach of the Ducks.
Capital char John Wilson, Wilson, Ron Wilson into the last names, Jack
Compus, NBA executive, and former you good, I'm just listening to the
clue, NBA executive and former Lakers star guard Lakers have retired. Yevery the
logo logo singer. Born in Atlanta, She and her group The Pips scoring
tonight There you go Midnight train to Georgia. Yes, what I use that
as the song. I don't know what we're playing, so I don't know.
Oh, it's a good song we're playing. I'm playing this out with
American politician and lawyer who served as Mayor of New York City from ninety four
one ninety three song Field episode the Non Fat Yogurt Juliani. Yeah, Rudy,
what a what a fall from grace like time Person of the Year everything
with nine to eleven. Yeah, and now former Major league outfielder from Pontiac,
Michigan, drafted by the Detroit Tigers in seventy eight, drafted by the
NFL Saint Louis Cardinals in seventy nine, helped the Tigers win the eighty four
World Series n L MVP with the Dodgers in nineteen eighty eight. The same
year, he hit an iconic two out nineteen in game winning pinch at home
run off Dennis Eckersley Game one World Series tremble No no k G. Kirk.
Give us a singer, songwriter actress, the highest selling Australian female recording
artist ever. Her hits include Can't Get You out of My Head, Kylie,
ky Kylie Minogue, Derek Jerrek jumped on all over it well Kylie Minogue.
I don't know if she still does. She had a Vegas residency,
which, of course Vegas Derek over here was just a Dylan. Thanks for
that factoy. Yeah, I will not be seeing Kylie Minogue at her residency
in Las Vegas. Hey, you know who else might not be? I
was just reading a story as Jennifer Lopez. She was going to get a
million dollars a show, oh ninety million dollars. They were going to pay
her and now they're backing out of the deal. Yeah, because she can't
she can't sell tickets. Yeah, it's really bad. Yeah, her tours
not selling. Who would think that that would be a good idea? Somebody
a millionaire show for j Lo really? Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know, but literally everyone's getting a Vegan Vegas residency at this point.
So you've got one. Yeah, I'm going to it's a one man show.
You should have one wrecked one man showman to have a mannequin with me
as well? You mean e ventrilo question, That's what I mean. Yeah,
dummy, you it's a three man show, Me, the mannequin and
the dummy. At the end of that could be the name of our show.
We've got a band name there, me, the mannequin, Me the
mannequin, and the dummy. Bad name. Some people might think that's the
name of this show, right, You with a mannequin? Yeah. When
I think a mannequin, there's one thing that comes up, and I don't
even want to bring it up. Well, there's a couple of things that
there was a movie. There was a movie called Medic but there was in
the eighties. Google it Derk says, yeah. In the eighties, the
movie had Tom's video, Tom's video, I remember the doors. Google it.
It's it's called The Mannequin. What year? Okay, nobody cares.
Okay. It was a good movie. There were some big names in it.
Who was in Who was in it? The Condican nineteen eighty seven who
played the manacan Andrew McCarthy Okay, yeah, Kim Control was in it.
Kim was James Spader. What the heck is the premise here? The store?
It had a weird concept. Yeah, I bet it was a guy
in the store and they're an mannequin and she comes live and he falls in
love with her. Yeah, of course, dog, he was all in
love with a mannequin. That wasn't Amdeican. Sorry I got it wrong.
Kim ConTroll with the mannequin. She was the mannequin. Okay, okay,
there was a mannequin. Let's move on. Let's Jeffrey Dahmer series. Yeah,
ready to look at it, Donny, look at this. I remember
this movie. I swear to the Tom's video or I saw it in the
theater. One of the two get back, get back to us on that
his name above her head and her name above his head. Well you know
what I think even you can figure it out. Okay, let's let's move
on here. This is really talk about a slow stress star worst show in
a long time. Manny and Craig and and Neil have been great. The
three of us not so much. Uh? Is it just me coming up?
Rolling Gift sixty three years old? You know this guy is no he
was in he starting in Mannequin. He's gonna help play us out April eighty
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John Borgerty, and you ignored it on purpose. Yes, I did the
hatred you have for this band. No, I just did it to bother
you guys down the road. Great song, his baseball song where he was
his center field, centerfield was so good looking at the back door, looking
at the back door, bad moon rising. I can go on, I
love that guy. Go on? He starting mannequin? Was John Fogerty a
Medican? Let me go here? Is it just me? I don't care
if a Canadian team wins a cup other than the Canucks want to see Tan
have win it for McDavid, Ghost Stars, Trevert Ladder, uh Chris tannev
is now effectively what is he done? He six wins, six wins away
from a Stanley Cup title. You got there, good good stuff, uh,
buzz in Mount Layman on the farm. Yeah. Is it just me
cheering for Dallas after the Canucks were eliminated? Why you ask the Gallardi family
representing BC As far as I'm concerned, that's from Buzz. Yeah, Tom
Gallardi, owner of the Stars and Camla's Blazers. Absolutely, he's He's like
christanneve done. He six away? Oh okay, move on, all right?
Is it just me? But Rick should have a Vegas residency. Unlike
the Jackson five, it'd be the Dolly five, Milstein Evans JP, Barry
your slav Alac, all his buddies. And that's from holding your Slavalalac.
Remember when remember when a Lack was gonna get traded and I kept saying he's
not, and then he is, and he's not, and then he got
traded. That's why he put him in there, holding from the ridge.
That's going back. Yeah, thanks for the support. Holding. He obviously
listens a lot. Is it just me? The Canucks should have begun a
rebuild. Instead, they have chosen to continue the Benning plan, trading draft
picks and overpaying mediocre veterans. This season, they caught lightning in a bottle.
Next year they'll return to scrambling for a playoff spot and all the fans
will freak out. No Cup for Vancouver, No Cup for you ever,
unsigned, Donny, I think right now, because they have nine UFAs and
obviously some big RFAs, it is impossible to predict what the Canucks will do
next year. You have to literally wait till the NHL Draft in July first
Rover before you can even attempt to say the Canucks are going to be like
this next year. There's a lot of movement coming, there's a lot of
changes coming, and is it's going to be all in the next five weeks.
But I think the customer makes a good, good point here that there
are some similarities though there there but with way more success. Yeah. Okay,
at least at least so far. A break will wrap up the show
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What a great picture this is. He's got the bucket hat, the Donny
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What else right in the overseas? Uh? Is this? No?
This isn't overseas. Where we're going eles Oh okay, I got mixed up,
but the other ones water. It's overseas. Congrats to the Surrey Eagles
their big win last night over Penticton. This is me rocket two nights ago.
This is me rocking my d and d had a game five and Surrey
Friday and my buddy Hiroshi Paul from Surrey and Hiroshi there and that rank.
Donnie, you've been there. It's a beautiful rink, it really is.
And uh, they really packed the joint for that BC Hockey League final against
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They'll be taking on Calm the whole train next year. That's right. That's
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