Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My
Canic Cast. I'm canna dave, Nah, I'm groovy. On today's episode,
we have special guest Ross, owner and operator and founder of Hunah.
Thank you for joining us today. Man, Yeah, what's going on,
guys? I appreciate you guys have me on. Oh yeah, no,
well it's been excited. Excited to talk to you about some hash So this
is my favorite ship when we're like getting dab brigs out. He brought he
brought over there, so I figure I would, uh bring the right set
up. How I sme like to smoke every day and we like to smoke.
So and just give everyone a little background like how we met y'all,
Uh, bring your best bet, bring your best dab event with who else
that exotic matter shadowt Tyler. That is a tongue toaster. Yeah but yeah,
I know, I remember, but no, no, it was really
fun. So because at that event, not only did we get to meet
you try some fire ass dabs, because I swear you gave me something that
was like wind DEXI or something. I don't know. It knocked me on
my ass with my first dab that night of many, but you got to
cut that night too, Yes, so you know, congrass on that.
Thanks thanks guys. No, and uh that Windxi Yeah yeah, that mangoe
like chemical hazy turp. I think so. Actually what that was was that
Sunday school we were talking about earlier. So a lot of Hayze genetics happily
ever after washed with some communion. Not a great yelder, but gets those
great turps. Would you like the flavor? Yeah, we were talking about
that Hayes flavor is not around. Okay, but before we get to all
these turps that we have on the table, I can't even show y'all.
But there's like a box full of turps and then there's like his new stuff.
I hear it. I'm like small smiles right here, it's it's plinko
and here if anybody knows what that is? So if I had to ask,
I assume again you're a dam or you do smoke much flower? Yeah?
No, I still smoke flower. I mean with starting the company,
I think recently more so, I've been smoking a lot of flowers. Sorry
if I look this way, guys, Oh yeah, I don't know.
If anybody doesn't know cameras Hey, guys, Zina Zebra is right to our
left here. She's a big part of Juna and my wife. So if
you think I'm looking over here, there's no ghost, but yeah, there's
no Yeah. Sorry, we'll say that question again. I was just curious
because you brought all dads, I'm curious. Do you smoke Flower often?
Yeah? Like I was saying, I took a break for a while,
I have a lot of stomach issues. I feel that I wanted to kind
of that was kind of the reason I went away from Flower in the first
place, and why I smoked more hash. And I've always kind of been
in a hash just because I smoked cigarettes for thirteen years. So getting out
of the military and finding out that, you know, there was I had
health problems that needed to you know, get rid of that. So I
mean I smoked for five or six years, and I mean I smoke Newports
shorts in the box and I like it. It was like coughing up blood
one day and I was like, oh, this can't be good. Yeah,
you know, like we hasn't done that. Yeah, so it's not
good man like. But no, So recently I have been smoking more flower.
We have a product that we're working on that is gonna utilize flower in
it. But it's the big part of it is hash so uh not at
donut, not at donut. You guys will see something coming here in the
next forty six months or so, including all right, I'm here for it.
Nobody's seen it in the Michigan and the license market at least at least
how we're doing it. So but it'll be fun right on, right on.
No, I like that. I like the innovative stuff. I'll be
looking forward to that drop. Do you How do you guys prefer smoll Rosin
all day? Like I will admit, like I mean, I'm doing me
wrong. I love a good donut with this guy, but like you know,
and I smoke flower. I do smoke flower here or there, but
I smoke Rosin daves more regular and honestly, I've just recently made the switch
to mostly Rosin because I used to just you know, whatever, you know
kind of guy das. But yeah, I credit myself on that. Well,
I can't do that. No no, no, no, no,
no, he don't get all the credit because you know it gets the credit
the market crashing on the price with once the price wasn't eighty dollars a g
for every single Rosin hit. I was like, okay, I can afford
to do this more. And that's when I was like he did help though,
Oh yeah, no no, And then I'm guessing you're more of the
flower smoker. I hear you like the doughnuts mostly. Yeah, okay,
I've been digging a lot of donuts. I prefer flower. I grow my
own. So I've heard on the show that you grow. And then I
always hear him asking like like, uh kid on Christmas, when's it coming
down? Well? Yeah, because well because like listen man, like I
wish I had dials it in. It can be really good man, Like
you know, I'm just building them up because he's like it's all right,
you know what I mean. But like like the bangering, like I hope
that comes back around. That was fantastic. Oh that sounds good. That
sounds good. What is that? Oh my, I'm blinking on this.
Cross is Rainbow Chip and good Bonkers? Maybe yeah it's exotic genetically okay,
exotic anything Mica and Micah anything. Yeah, it was real. Yeah,
I wish I had some. I just chopped some and I'll be having some
next week. Okay, Okay, I usually come out this way every other
week, so I'll hit you guys up. Yeah, definitely, I'm always
here. Yeah man, no, I mean it was it was pretty good.
Ship Man got third place in the organic cup I did, And honestly,
like, what's funny about that is like it wasn't it was like,
wasn't it like a freebie? It was like it wasn't even like when he
bought it was just a freebie. It was like one of my fair drink
He's grown. So that's pretty dope. That's pretty dope. I had no
clue. That's actually really sick, dude, Like you're I had something to
share. Hey, there's plenty of time. Never say never, so so
like let's talk. Let's talk. So what got you into making hash and
doing this world? So I'll try to keep it brief, but uh,
I guess my first introduction at hash was in two thousand and eight, two
thousand and nine. Had a buddy who was growing auto flowers in his apartment
across from oh you shout out Beacon Hill apartment. We have stupid amount of
memories there. Said that just hit a weird memory I know for him too.
That's why we well we actually went to OU. Yeah, okay,
that's where we rekindled our friendship because we have been boys like on and off
since middle school. And we went to OU and that's where we like,
you know, started to smoke a weed together. He's like, you know,
and that's what's so funny when you said that, like I have friends
that lived there. I was like, oh, that's funny. I remember
specifically going down. You go in there, you go like two actresses on
your left, and then he's on the fourth floor, second apartment on right.
That was allegedly I was alone, allegedly allegedly many years ago. But
no, so yeah, I used to go there all the time, just
get weed and stuff and hang out with him. And then we said two
thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight, Yeah, scary because that's when
we were there. Oh shit, older, you guys old, older than
I learned, older than I look, okay thirty two okay, okay,
wait on had man Ivan Evan? Do you guys know Evan the name man?
That's that's why did that part out? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah,
so so so he used to go used grow auto flowers on his balcony.
Like I hated going over there because I always thought that I was going
to get cops were going to come every time. But I went over there
one time and he had a home depot bucket and a drill and a paint
mixer, and I was like, what's going on. He's like, yeah,
go in the kitchen, just start mixing it up. I'm like,
why are we doing this to weed? Like what is going on? So
we started doing it and then he pulled out some bubble magic bags and like
you know, making the clay puck. And then I came back a week
later and he let me smoke some and like that ship was the best ship
ever, and like I started smoking weed. Oh god. It was probably
like two thousand and six, two thousand, yeah, probably two thousand and
six. Uh. We had some rugs and then we had some permafrosts.
How we knew it was good as we used to take the weed and like
push it on the window and then if it stayed there, it was we
knew it was really good. So the permafrost was sicky. The rugs had
seeds in it, so we was but we used to call it like green
corns or something like that, but we were like mids. We just call
it mids and ranks because people nowadays MIDS is garbage, which I get now
because the quality. But dude, back in the day, MIDS was like,
thank god I got MIDS because I used to smoke likes right B or
b C. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. See I love
these old terms, right oh man, man? And yeah, so uh
after that, uh, you know, I was smoking weed a lot,
kept getting in trouble with it with my parents. My mom kept grounding me
for it. And then my brother finally told me that my mom smoked weed
and that the weed she was finding and taking for me, she was smoking
it. So so yeah, so he told me where she kept it.
I went and took my weed back and then made her sweat on it.
I'd later find out she never even realized it until I brought it and put
it back on the counter. But no, so we talked about it.
We kind of got past it, and then a few weeks later I got
arrested for weeds, so I really talked about it. Yeah, man,
But and then eventually left for the military, came back. I was in
the army for six years. Thank you, thanks, thanks and after three
years I came back to Michigan. Two and a half years, I came
back to Michigan and did training here and did a lot of my soop training
here. So I started growing weed and right in this in this neighborhood.
So we had a few houses and Metro Detroit following me. Man, no,
no, it's it's funny. It's like when you you told me where
you guys are at. I was like, man, I'm gonna this is
like I'm going right to my old neighborhoods. But yeah, this is nostalgic
for you, to be very very d I lived here for like seven years
of my life. This really is where I met. Like how when you
say like local, like how local is so right across the street on Osceola
so across and right yeah so like so like and then we had another place
right across the street from here, okay, so like uh so yeah,
we so we had we had a few grows, and then we pricely started
dropping around two thousand and like sixteen twenty seventeen. Nothing crazy was still like
you know, those higher twoes, but enough to where we started having an
abundance. So we started like making edibles and blowing b h O and like
I started hitting it a hash again, and like nobody was buying the hash
back then, Like I'd make all this bubble hash. I'd make like uh,
dry sift hash, and like I remember back in two thousands sixteen,
I was hitting up slmalless mind shout out a legacy guy, but he was
doing dry sift and making it from like making full melt from dry sifts,
so like basically shaking trim. Yeah, and then yeah, yeah he with
the giant like those Pocono screens. Yeah, so that's what I got into.
I got really heavy into it. Nobody was buying that still, so
I just smoking myself and then it was all that black taine back in the
day. Oh man, I mean, I'm sure there's a point in my
life where I should have been tested for something with all the but tane testing
we had to do before there was testing. So sure it's really done good
to us all. Yeah, it's yeah, shout out to all of our
old customers who didn't have to go through that. People didn't want hash back
the day, but it's made a certain like a research well, I guess
here like here in America, because I feel like hash has always been huge
in Europe. Yeah, you always hear like how huge it is over there.
I've heard, right, I've never been, but Middle East too,
like, but here not a big thing till recently. And I'm loving it,
you know, oh yeah. But and that's where eventually, you know,
the hair straightener thing came out and I was breaking hair straighteners putting flour
in it. We had a resonator three thousand that you it was a pollen
tumbler basically, so we were like Colin tumbling, collecting to keep and trying
to press that on a homemade press we built at Harbor Freight, literally on
three by three low temp presses before low temp was even like barely a company
so like, but nobody was nobody. I don't know why. I thought
we had a bunch of I had bubble hashed in the freezer that I never
touched. We never thought about pressing that. So like, after a while,
I saw that around twenty eighteen that licensure was coming, so like basically
everyone was going to be able to get a license to legally, and like
I had met my wife and I didn't want to. I want to be
able to get a house. I want to be able to do this like
legally and get like on paper. So people go through some crazy stuff like
you mean, like that's the thing, man, Like you know, more
power to how you want to do it with the gray or mart, you
know, Pray Area market, what do you want to call it? Oh
yeah, no, more power to you, you know, like because there's
a lot of belief in that. But like I get it. But at
the same time, like you know, after watching what he went through,
man, and like it's just you don't want to see that. That shit's
crazy, you know, like no, no, And that kind of pushed
me. So that's where I got a job with Oh yeah, yeah,
And I started working at a retailer that we that we used to provide in
the caregiver market and did regional operations for them, launched a lot of their
Grand Rapid stores, and then ended up working for Wild Gummies, so I
was a sales account manager with them. During this whole time, I was
going through the whole process of getting my license, getting pre qualified, looking
for real estate, and basically just keeping in the markets. So like I
learned how retailers worked, how a purchaser worked. I opened up stores and
had to hire and managed over eighty people in multiple stores and grand rapids,
and so after that, I was able to kind of see that back end
of sales for like one of the more popular, one of the larger brands
in the country, and honestly, my opinion, has one of the most
effective sales team and culture in any cannabis company in the United States right now.
So like being able to kind of work for them and then start my
own company was like the biggest thing for me because like we were going to
do everything from a grow to bh O to edibles retail. We're going to
do fully vertebrated fully. Yeah. So and over the years I got to
see how that kind of went. Like I started working and managing right when
license happened, Like we were some of the first stores I got licensed,
and then I got to see how to launch them and like see how these
companies would unfortunately invest way too much money off the rip and then you know,
not realize that the market crashes or or realize that well, it's up
and downs, right, like you know, especially with cropping, like in
legal states too, we noticed that like when people's people are cropping there in
the summer, Like there's like it is a definitely slow period for a couple
of months for people, you know, and same thing with like you know
how like any of the year st people are spending money on other things and
yeah, so it's rough and it's rough, and like you know, you
can just see it over the years and it's getting better and like so I
got the idea from basically like seeing how Wild didn't do anything but just produced
gummies. I like home something. Yeah, and like I knew what I
always loved. I loved Hash. I always liked Hash. I didn't want
to get back into vh O because the liability of like gases pressed gas is
also the market going very down, So like I just focused in the last
two three years on making Rosin and just honing my craft, going to many
seminars, talking to many people, meeting as much as I can, watching
everything I can, testing out and running as much as I can. But
basically that kind of led to where we are now. And like, uh,
yeah, I don't know, I kind of kind of lost my train
of thought there, no, no, no, And honestly, let's like
like I want to preview this because we haven't even mentioned the hash yet and
I love getting the background. But because we got the little preview taste some
of them at Gangstaboo Produce, we're all we all took a round of them.
So yeah, that's what happened, you know. But no, no,
no, that's awesome. When did it opened up? When did you
guys open up officially? Yeah? September? We got licensed August September.
We got product first in market in October, so only six months. So
it's been pretty quick. It's been, uh, it feels like it was
yesterday. Yeah. Oh and you know what, by the way, your
train of thought you were si we you were talking about like honing in after
you were watching My Wild and going in your own company. Oh yeah yeah,
so like I came to me, so I was like I got it.
No, no, no, you're good. And like I saw,
I saw a huge benefit and basically just focusing on the one thing that you
know how to do and where you have passion. Because what I saw is
that when companies had multiple different areas that they had to focus on, but
there was only one main guy doing the focus there, you kind of lose
touch. It's not one hundred and ten percent in all areas hundred. Yeah,
so yeah, oh yeah, simly sense, you know, and we
wanted to like put everything we have into this. Everything I was able to
learn, all the people I met, all the relationships I was able to
create over the years, and like it kind of helped me do what we
wanted to do and create an all around product and like basically not just a
product, like a community and a culture that's not here in the license market.
So like seeing from the beginning that like there's always been this unjust to
an un educated customer from an untransparent packaging. And that was the first problem
that I've always seen in the industry. You know, we saw it with
distilate hybriditiva many years now, customers are like, man, I got played,
I got played flavors, flavors and then they're like strain flavors. So
like there's always been like that's just an example. And like so when I
was getting this going and I decided I want to go on the you know,
journey of Rozon with it, I saw that happening. Like you know,
if you look a year and a half ago, it was eighty ninety
dollars a gram for no and it was just like across the board, like
no giving, like and like you didn't know what you're getting. Sometimes it
was dry still you know, or it wasn't because you liked it, but
you're like, why would I spend four times as much for something that you
know, I didn't know? I guess for me, I didn't understand it
yet, right, Like it makes sense to a lot of people, and
that's the problem. So like I saw that there was it was happening,
and I'm like, I can't. I can't let this happen. So like
there's a few companies in the state that we're doing it a little bit here
and there, but like their customers had no clue. It was so like
they might have pulled back on it. So like seeing that kind of happen,
and like coming into the market, I wanted to also noticing that like
most of this market is captured in the in the black market where it came
from, So where the roots. You know, it's for the caregivers.
You know, built the metric system, and like honestly, you know,
I built the caregiver market people taking the risk and just growing the ship looks
the black market, gray mark. I try to call it great market now
because technically it's not I don't like to put it with like all the other
drugs, like you know what I mean, because it's like it's a little
different because it's sort of legal depending on things, like yeah, it's like
you know what I mean, Like it's always so convoluted. So I always
think weed's kind of become its own thing, you know. So, but
no, one hundred percent, I couldn't agree with you more because we just
it's just like the black market or where the roots are at. Oh yeah,
and like you know, the thing you're seeing in the black market with
a lot of these brands is you know, transparency in the packaging ferstauses cycles,
Yeah, microns, what temperature they should dab it at? Where did
you find it at? Like so so like seeing that that wasn't like fully
happening in the in the market, I wanted to be transparent right away because
transparency is like so trusting a company is huge where you're going to go back
again and again and again. You know, you know, actually marketing might
get you a customer once you guys have great packaging and and you know,
and there's a recent and like oh yeah, actually you not to cut you
off, but I think you are the only people to ever get perfect packaging
and our right. Yeah I heard this, Yeah I did. Like at
the same thing, I was like, I don't know what I could.
Yeah, I had to get I was been waiting. I love it,
I know. But you give all that to the consumer. I think that's
awesome. They should know all that. You should be able to look it
up and if they don't want to, at least it's there for them exactly.
The package is not excessive either. In the boxes it comes with a
little cool dab tool, like where's that you want to put in the cannon
cam? Yeah? Yeah, and we'll talk about we'll definitely talk about this
here in a second, and like this is a whole part of what we
kind of wanted to do and like what we're you know, I saw that
there was good Rosin brands out there. We just came in the box just
to be clear so people understand. So it's like just in case you're like
me and you actually are like, oh, ship, where's my dam tool?
When you may or may not be dabbing on a go or if you're
and you just you just can have a dabber and it's perfect, this nice
little thing and it's a backup. Yeah, it came this morning. We
finally use it because David couldn't fine women. It was like perfect, I
love it. I love it. And that's and that's kind of the thing
for it, Like you know, it's kind of that round circle aspect of
like the brand. So like we saw that there was good there was good
packaging out there. We saw that there was good hash out there, but
there wasn't a full circle of everything that was encaptured. And like the traditional
market, I'll call it what I like to call it traditional. I like
that. Yeah, that's I think I might do that. No, no,
And I encourage people to use it because black black market is a very
it's it's built from a stigma, and like we're really trying to break that
stigma. But but to not get not get stuck on that, we kind
of wanted to give the full round circle to make everything just simple for not
only us, not only our our employees, our fans, our customers and
our buyers at the stores and our employees. So like we wanted to give
good packaging that first helps a store succeed, so that it's not just something
sitting on the shelf, it gets caught by your eye and you want to
get Yeah, so at the same time you open it up and then you
see these jars. We actually I do all the designs in house, so
like each jar, I do myself, and I come up to these new
things every single time. So on top of that, too, we wanted
to include information and we slowly started doing it at first by like adding microns.
We weren't seeing anyone labeling mic and you're right, You're right, I
do see that, like when I get it from the caregivers and stuff like
you know, like when I've gone to like the you know, big cloud
events, you know or big big cloud farm events whatever, I really enjoy
them, Like I love going to those, and that was, you know,
awesome. I was grateful to play a couple so you know, happened
to be there already. But like we, uh we we bought some really
good rosent there, you know, superior solve with this which now is gone
legal. Yeah, and then like we've tried, I don't know, shout
out the legacy leg legacy. I like legacy too, but just like you
said, I don't like that black market term because it almost had this connotation
to like all these other drugs too, and that's I'm like, no,
weeds a little different now, like you know, it just is it really
is and involved a bit. So the whole the whole point we want the
thing is is like when the customer comes in and like they're buying rosin,
and like, since it's becoming more popular, we we want them to ask
questions about it because that how that's how we succeed in the category. That's
how we get people wanting to talk about it more. Then it gets to
be more more interested. So like when they're buying rosin and they're spending you
know, fifty sixty bucks on this rosin and like they're eventually picking up our
brand and like, do you mind if I see that project zeroal quick?
Uh? This one? Yes? No, this is your RS eleven but
it's empty. Actually, can't believe it's gone. It's gone gone the head
this is this is some of our recently my last dab so this is pretty
cool. So yeah, this is some of our original packaging and like we
wanted to kind of include like the microns. That's the first thing we noticed
and like that's a huge aspect in hash. Yeah, you know, understanding
microns and where those tri comheads lay. It's really between that the most predominant
is going to be between seventy through one f nine and like where we find
the cleanest is through the seventy through one nineteen. So understanding that, you
know, sometimes with the full spectrum product, you know, to achieve ROI,
we understand that it needs to happen. Sometimes people will put a full
spectrum, full spectrum and some people have success with it because we've had a
couple of we had some decent stuff and their full spectrum and like it's I
don't know if I can always tell if it's like washed really well, but
there, I think you're right. I think there is some mad scientists behind
it where you're like, no, no, this is where it's dialed in
and like you hash makers though, so like I believe you. So when
you say that, I definitely want I'll take that to heart because now when
I see that, when you say seventy you to one nineteen, like yes,
I mean like like you know, the turp heads out there, tricombe
heads mature just like the leaf on the plants. So like you're gonna see
us. You're going to see the stumb, and then you're gonna see a
stock. At first, it's gonna be this tiny, little bulbous ball,
and then over time it's going to start growing and growing and growing enough to
where it builds a callus and then comes up very brittle on its neck,
so that when we go to extract that, it's very easy to pu that
off. And we're we see, like, if it's a very small head
and it's laying in our forty five bag, it's most likely an unmature hat.
Doesn't mean it's bad. It just means that the effects from that aren't
going to be really what we're all looking for if we're paying a little bit
more for it. So that's and that's like the whole reason for our tiers.
So like we so like we wanted people to kind of see like,
okay, so in our tier three, they so what are your tiers?
Like, let's break it down from people don't know, I mean using there's
like just tier one and tier two, but you have like a few Yeah,
so five right now, there's no five that's come out yet. Ok
So it's one. It's it's basically one, two, three, four,
Tier one and tier two are always going to be hunahunas phase forward. That's
that's the best of the best, and then that's Tier three through five is
actually where ground Score by Huna starts. So I used to do a lot
of yeah so exactly, Okay, I don't know what the meaning is,
but like for me, I was a gross scours like so basically, oh
yeah, so back when Electric Force is starting, just we had friends who
were doing volunteering for it. We used to go to all of them.
So like, basically, over time, it became a term that we used
for the feeling you get when you're cleaning up or walking around and you find
that bag of weed on the ground or that that case of beer, or
that little bit of money or you know that those those party Yeah, at
a festival, it's very hard to locate. Hey, he's twenty dollars bill.
This is you know exactly who's bag of Hey, so yeah, it's
mine, you know what I mean? Like, oh, like understanding that
I wanted, like our our what we feel is our more budget friendly line
to be something. It gives you that same feeling that you found something amazing
but it didn't really cost you much. So like and that's where like,
yeah, so to kind of like break down how the tears work and how
like the microns work into this, so like understanding how hash is is kind
of washed and like how Rozin's made. You know, there's multiple wash cycles,
and then there's multiple microns and with each micron there's this there's a bag
or a separate micron screen. So most people run to a standard of like
six seven micron bags, sometimes only three or four. So when you're washing,
you're gonna have multiple cycles. So you're gonna have your first wash or
second wash, or third wash or fourth wash, depending on how you wash.
So usually the best material is gonna come from the first wash usually right,
sometimes environments, second wash is better. You know, it's funny like
that just just before it just run away, like I've heard that. I
just don't know what the truth is. So that is true, Like I
don't understand that because I always assumed first washed better. So and think about
it in this way, and this is where it's really the cleanliness of the
environment the grower. Think of the first thing that's gonna come off of plant,
the easiest, the first one dust and debris. So whatever's just laying
on that butt originally is going to be so say it's a greenhouse environment or
a large so it's going to be the first thing that we see that's floating
up in the water and it contains in the hash. And it's a lot
of the times actually where the dark yes, yes, So we've seen on
runs we we don't see that, but we've seen on runs where we get
more plant spectrum and some of our micro micron polls that aren't in the second.
So we started and like start with certain growers to different environments. We
started isolating that and like that was one of the things that we came in
and I'll talk about more after we get through the tiers, but there's so
many different environments in the license market that we wanted to not do things by
standard, and like that was the biggest thing. So like basically kind of
how the tears work. Our tier one is always our first wash. It's
always going to be our first through third wash one of these cycles, depending
on where we feel is the cleanest hash. And that's one thing that we
want everybody to understand about hash. Anybody can make good hash, It's about
how clean your hash is. Because the dirtiest hash can be terrible, but
the cleanest hash, no matter what grower it is, you're going to have
a good, good smoke. It's gonna have a good flavor and it's not
gonna it's not gonna be bad for you in the sense. So but also
what that means is is we don't include a lot of top end larger ones.
Is you guys see like you might see like forty five through one fifty
nine, or like seventy through one forty nine, or like seventeen seventy through
one to fifty nine. Yes, sometimes these larger heads and like the one
twenty through one fifty nine are good because they're larger and they have a lot
of effects. But sometimes the problem with that is is that because it's a
larger micron, and you think about that, that mean it's just a larger
hole instead of it being smaller. It's letting through also more plant material,
so also can be pulling in some of that chlorophylled taste, some of that
it's non really taste that you kind of want your where you're just looking for
that really good flavor. So we kind of that's where we had a lot
and we usually lately it's been a lot of ninety through one nineteen or seventy
through one nineteen. There's been a few runs that we've seen where it's very
clean in the top end, but very few. Often we don't see that.
So usually our tier one or our Tier two are always going to be
the first wash through, second or third of the seventy through one nineteen or
the ninety three. Right, that's specific Micron bag. That is where usually
because it's gone through. And I'll tell you guys later, we have a
lot of different wash methods and most standard but because of that, well,
see that that's what's interesting because you said that if I find that very fascinating,
because I don't know what everyone's different standards are for washing, because if
you're washing full spectrum, first, second, third wash just means your first,
second, third wash, right, But what you just grabbed this whole
point of like you're washing your second third wash only with certain Micron bags.
And I've never thought about that. I thought every second wash and third wash
would just be like full spectrum so they can get the most Yeah, and
I don't kind of you. I just love it. Yeah, And you're
on the right track there, and it's kind of like different scenario to different
scenarios, since we do different things in different ways and we have different wash
methods, and like kind of like to hone in on like the standardized wash
because like everyone knows kind of how to wash nowadays, and like that's the
thing that's how you do it differently, So like the standardized washways, you're
doing multiple wash cycles at fifteen to twenty minutes, and usually you're gonna put
in around four or five bags. You're gonna get that forty five, the
lower und you're gonna get that seventy. You're having the ninety, the one
twenty, the one fifty nine, and then you're usually have a two twenty
and the two twenties where you catch all that bigger stuff, the one fifty
nine where you're gonna catch all those like hairs and like leftover small or broken
up chlorophyll, and then you're gonna contain everything else down in the one twenty,
the ninety, and the seventy. Some people like to put their forty
five in because it does help with yields and sometimes it does not affect like
the overall quality of it. Sometimes it gives it better lay and I'll get
that into that a second. But so I'm just like it should be taken
notes. Yeah, I implore everyone if you guys ever want to learn more
about hash French and Canoli shout out rest in peace to him. But we
actually had Madame Cannoli when they were doing uh virtually. She wasn't nice.
She was doing a tour for f uh French the documentary. They were working
there before you passed. Oh yes, they were doing a drive. Yeah
yeah, like in Chicago or something. Okay, okay, happened to get
you know us. Yeah, They're like yeah, yeah, please please,
this is super goo one, especially when he filled me in showed me the
hat, like oh g and the hash game is anyway, sorry no,
and like it's it's funny because I always say this in the community. It's
like how how small the community is. It's like, you know, we
just went in took Madam Cannoli's class, like in November. We just got
to meet her and Bella and like do their class and like, but yeah,
I implore everyone if you want to learn about hash. It was it
was good. It was great to check off the bucket list. That's what
I'll say. Very insightful. It's a very worth trying for some hashmakers and
a very good for anyone who wants to be getting into a beginner. If
you're looking for more of a more advanced class, I would say there are
some techniques that you can learn for like more traditional stuff. Anyone that you
want to shout out or you know before helped like kind of like education.
Oh yeah, man, it sounds like you really like. I think that's
one thing I respect because I've kind of overheard, like I think it was
I thought it was someone mentioned that on like Reddit I was reading did you
talk about Smoky the Bear? Yeah, So Smokey's had a big influence on
us. That's where I met Xavier. I took one of his first classes
about two and a half three years ago and might have been a little shorter,
but yeah, no, he's he's given us a lot of a lot
of insight, a lot of knowledge. We've gone back and gone to his
classes recently to kind of do things. We've had some talks about psibly moving
his class into our license facilities so we can start doing a more in depth
like kind of like giving both aspects of traditional to like license on. Yeah,
yeah, so like like that's the one thing we try. We don't
try to keep much information because like I said, it's everybody knows how to
wash kind of the same. But well, that's what I just wanted to
give you respect because items like you're really out here trying to learn from people,
and like you already just mentioned Madam Cannoy and Smoky so like anyone else
you like, yeah, because it looks like you really care about just learning
about it. So just that's all, Yeah, I mean, simply Adam,
Simply Adam has been a huge one. He's the also the owner of
resin Dial if he has ever heard of resin Dial. It's a for jar
test washing, So it allows you to do fifteen to twenty grams and kind
of do a small wash and be able to collect those microns that we talked
about, Oh, kind of like the shakes. Yeah, you're doing still
doing the shake, but you kind of put it through this like contraption that
kind of looks like a grinder but a lot bigger with but instead of like
uh having like different layers of different things, each one just has different micron
screens in it that you pull out after and collect a hash on it,
so I really really awesome. Yeah yeah basically and like so he's been a
huge He's one if you guys ever heard of Ego clash or no. Yeah,
I think he's took an award there. He's he's pretty well known in
like the hashmaker community as very very well knowledged. He's been helping us out
a lot in like a few ways with the res and dial and just being
a support. Same thing with Humphrey Hashe She gave us a scholarship to his
online training for Fine Arts of making Hash shout out Thomas Humphrey Humphrey Hache.
But yeah, so he gave us a free scholarship to his website to do
his freeze drift training, so we were able to kind of capture how he
does his training and stuff like that. This is great. This is great
tips for to any hashmaker as the hash because I mean, the education is
there. And it's funny I said that to him. Like, over the
past few years, I feel like hash went from like only certain people made
it good to out of nowhere, everyone was making hash rasn't really good and
it was just like damn, I'm going to have a no, no,
no do it. I love it. This is actually awesome our office screen.
But yeah, man, and like there's a lot of other people as
I'm going, I'll probably shot them out as that that's cool, but no,
no, no, no, yeah, we don't have to go in
order. I was more just like because I remember I could, you know,
just when I was doing research and product myself. I remember coming across
the Reddit thing and they're like, oh man, respect for them to look
at the research for smoking. I just want to bring that up because for
me, like when I'm buying rosin, someone who makes hash, I want
to support someone who really cares about the product. I don't want to support
a company who's just making Rosin because it's selling, you know, because like
there's a different care that goes behind it and like it's you know, that's
it. I just I wanted to bring it up for our listeners because a
lot of our listeners are very like they love this ship. I love that,
and that's so that's why I do this, Like like we all three
of us have the same passion. Like, you know, I met Xavier
in some of these classes, like I'm met Xavier. Xavier is our calmer
HASH director. He's our so we're a small team as you guys know,
it's just three of us, It's just me, Zina and Xavier. So
we're also self honed, self operated, so like we don't really have we're
not corporate or anything. So like we're super small batch, so like less
than five hundred grams. Usually we're about to launch the Hunahad stash, so
to kind of while we're talking about as stash, we're talking top Yeah.
Yeah, this brings back to like the tiers, so like, yeah,
the ground score, like that's where that kind of feeling came from. So
like our tier three, so like our tier one, Tier two is always
going to be that first swash that what we feel is is always going to
be the best. Tier one is we're always going to get the best profile,
the best flavor, best consistency, and we feel for that for that
strain. And that's the one thing we want people to start understanding too.
Not every strain is going to be wet, guys, I know, want
we wish, well, no, it happens even but I mean even something
I've smelled that was dry or its freaking smells amazing. It's like I test
my nose, man. Oh yeah, So and like that's the whole The
thing we want people to understand is one term we're trying to DM and we're
about to make some shirts on It's not all hashes created equally, so like
that's why we want to show different aspects of hash. And we look at
hash like it's wine. So like we have our tier one where you can
go get our QC controlled hash where you can get where we've done temperature control
on how that color is looking when it's actually getting burned on a nail,
so that like when you're paying that high dollar price, you're not ruining your
nail. Second late, we're looking at how fast it burns off and evaporates,
and also what temperatures because we started including on our products suggested DAP temps
so that you can go home and be like okay, because we notice like
different terpenes evaporate at different rates. No, right, it's going to recommend
them and also create that question in their head of wait, I've been doing
this wrong? Wait, what's these microft It's good because sometimes when you ask
yourself questions, that's what you want. So what you want to spark people's
like interest in things that they start doing the research and like the ROS and
care degree right now is so small because of that. So the more that
we can get customers looking at these things and questioning like what's these microns?
Like what's this here? Get some asking, so now they now like you're
at our tier three line and like basically tier one, you're gonna get our
best Stuff're always gonna get the best thing, down to color, down to
everything. Sometimes we do sacrifice color because we want the customer to start asking
answering question like why did they put this in their tier one like our projects
e because mature heads, you're going to get an amazing fact there. We
don't believe that the color kind of changes the quality of hash. Yeah,
well we used to. We used to. I used to be on that
tip very early ROS and days, like I was like, oh, you
know, lighter is better lighter, But then like as I started doing I
was like, you know, I'm just gonna go with trust my nose because
like at the end of the day, like a shot into it too,
that project type area. Oh yeah, and like that was so that was
shot out Adams family farms. That was their living soil beds and their greenhouses.
That yeah, so they're an amazing grower. They do over one hundred
and eighty five different genetics in the house. They work with like mostly Humblebee
for the past few years. Okay, yeah, so they started branching out
recently and doing a lot of stuff with different hash makers. But so Tier
two, you're gonna it's basically kind of like that same thing, but it
might not meet one of those aspects, like it might not be the lightest
or it might not have the overall amazing flavor, but you're going to get
the cleanest hash possible. And that's the whole aspect of it. So when
you get in ground score, that's where we usually include our full specs.
So usually after our third wash, that's when we're going to get into kind
of pulling a full micron or we'll continue because what we do is select microns,
So we keep every single micron separate through every single wash cycle, which
means I know hashmakers are going to probably be like, yeah, these guys
aren't doing this. No, we really do have about twelve trays on a
cart, so we are literally keeping every single one from every single cycle and
keeping them separately because we have different categories of where we put our hash,
so like with our forty five through one fifty nine, we do feel and
like we've seen on like if anybody's tried our slaps, so our slaps Tier
one was very profound, very flavorful, and insanely like cocont a peanut cole
out of orange, Like dude, it was insane and like, but it
wasn't like the wettest. It had more that sheen, like crystal sheen on
it. So like, but when you get into our full speck, which
was the third through sixth wash, and it was a forty five to one
fifty nine, it was way shinier and it was wet and it laid and
it was like a nice like wet butter. And so what that means is
it had a lot of forty five heads. So if you think about a
tricombe head and an immature state, it doesn't have that waxy coating that gets
around that tricombe that keeps its dexterity. So it's going to burst a lot
quicker on that press. So when we get it into the jars, it's
going to give that overlay more as in holding its stability kind of like that
top und for that strain specifically. So what we're noticing that if we're keeping
less higher micron and this is where we're going to be doing slaps again,
and we're going to do a seventy through one fifty nine first wash because we
saw that in higher micron with the lower micron, we want to see that
kind of test of like, all right, are we going to be able
to capture more of a wet consistency or is this going to kind of stay
the same. And that kind of solidifies things that we're trying to answer ourselves
so we can get it kind of back to our customers and kind of be
like, hey, get yourself asking questions because it also gets us asking questions,
which gets us making new things. So and that's the cool thing about
Hash there's always new things every day. Wow. Okay, so it's one,
two, three, four, and then we're going to be head stashed.
Yes, So for four is where we have cured hash rosen. We
do cures okay, yeah, that we also do live. It's where we
also just do QC. So if we don't feel that it's meeting our one
through three, we're gonna put it in four because we still have customers and
like that's the thing is we look at it like I love that you do
that because sometimes when you go it's even myself when I go to the dispo,
I am sometimes balling on a budget because something happened in my car right
knock on wooden because that sucks. But yeah, I know, I know.
I was gonna say, somebod you run a roll. I was like,
no, I think it's about that time. We've got to like,
you know, we've been going here and talking about hack, but we're almost
I do want to dig into your product and shout up your product. I'm
almost there, but like, yeah, I know the headstae. I love
that because you know, everyone's ball on a budget. Sometimes sometimes people want
to treat themselves, you know. So that's why I like to have that
like variance. It's wine, man, you like boons Farms? Sometimes you
don't like boons Farm Sometimes if you do, like all the time, you
still want to go up to Traverse City, go to the winery, learn
about it, get really good wine, and spend a little bit more from
it. I would just go hang out with his Canadad man. Oh nice,
nice, I've never seen I've never seen someone sniff a glass of wine,
so I'm met and shout out, and that's what I love you,
man, And that's the passion we want to create. Might he listens,
but no, man, right, But it's a flavored connoisseewer, right.
Nonetheless, like when you're doing turps and smoking weed and when you're enjoying a
fine cigar or drinking fine wine. There's levels to ship, right. You
can go get some box wine or you can go spend one thousand dollars on
a bottle of wine. Yeah, And really it's just most people in the
ross category and now are going to that mid to it's like forty forty five
dollars, fifty dollars, and like we want them to try it, see
that product, see like forty five, the one fifty nine, and then
ask their ask their bud tender like oh hey, what does that mean?
And then they educate them and then they go back and they're like, wait,
so you're saying for ten dollars more, I can get an even more
superior product than this already, like okay, cool, Yeah. And then
so it's doing what you don't see a lot often first, getting customers,
like trying new things getting customers asking question making making stores happy because now they're
now they're helping out like getting larger card sizes in this very depleting market on
high quality products. So like it's it's it's a it's benefits. It's it's
a ying and yang, it's a ying. Oh, and like it's it's
it's helping. It's helping a market a category that doesn't have explanation details to
decide for two ends a retailer to purchase product effectively and not at the same
price and charge everything at the same price. So now they can go and
get product that's the quality of what they feel a forty dollars MSRP or a
thirty five dollars or a fifty or sixty, while also helping a customer guide
themselves in the right direction they want to go learning, learning exactly, but
sorry, but that's not take your da before we forget. But that makes
sense because you're guiding someone to like this is the intro level of cured hash.
This is the middle grade of like this is like what we consider mid
grade hash because like that's the big thing too, especially getting into dabs and
like you know, getting into reviews, right because it's been hard to kind
of like really judge it, you know, as and as you learn you
get to really dial it in. So over the years, I feel like
now I can judge stuff better. That's very some of this, Yes,
some of the can of cam Man. So I'm gonna puffed because it's a
really cool piece of Yeah, this shot up Gangster bo fourteen, So I'm
about to this guy real quick. Oh yeah, so yes, shout out
Pure Coast Beganics guys, if you're looking for that shines, this is gangster
right, Yes, gangs to be number fourteen. It's a growing Buce Began.
They're living soil veganic operation on a Michigan I believe in the Kaesu area,
but they are. There are some of the most interesting, interesting flavors.
We've been able to wash some of the cleanest material for if you're a
very conscious smoker, conscious connoiseur. I would like to call it so uh,
it's we're very happy with it. And this is one we're actually going
to be doing a first time ever where it's going to come out in the
Tier one, Tier two, and Tier three because this I'm sorry, it'll
be whoa had stash tier, just different different levels of watch. Yeah,
and mainly because we felt that our midway seven seventy through one nineteen. Like
I said, we keep all trades. So we did one where it was
first washed seventy through one nineteen, and then we had third through fifth wash
seventy through one nineteen and it is still amazing. Guys. Wow, And
like this, I feel like sometimes even the flavor changes a bit, like
as you when you go through it, because I don't know if you're like
losing certain turpenes throughout like that process, but it's like sometimes flavor will change.
So the fact that it stayed that true, that's pretty cool. And
that's kind of exactly what you just said right there. So that's what we're
noticing. We when we do these jars and we whip them up separately and
we're putting them in front of us, we'll smell one. Each one smells
amazing in its own different way, like the top end of those games all
smell amazing. We are smelling some of these unreleased stuff and many when's the
gates we're going to be out in the market, so, and where's where's
most of your products at? For our listeners? That as well. Yeah,
so I think we're in about thirty stores. Now, let's see we're
in we're in the Mint Cannabis locations. Uh puff Utica. Let's see,
we just launched it in the High Society stores. So all their stores across
the state. Closest one of you guys, I think is Lennox. So
there were around I believe in the grass at twenty six area that way,
okay, and you know there's discos out there. Actually, the closest one
is right down the street, Plane fifty nine in our hometown. Yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, Waterford, So we're over there. And then let's
see, uh, Oldswell. So we're in Adrian and Grand Rapids along with
gosh, why am I blanket here? Is you know helped me out here.
We got Southland Farms down in Niles, Micro Business, Organic Girl as
well. Really cool, really cool team there. I know you're in Butter
because that's where I got your butter. That's what we got. I was
like, where did we get it? And they had the Greasy Mints collab
with Butter was was one we didn't get it. But because when they had
another deal going and we really wanted to try, I really want your r
s elevens. I just want to try so Butter, Butter we've come to
start working with recently, everybody keeps asking me if we're affiliated and anyway no
or not. It was because a lot of a lot of the Yeah,
a lot of your collass people tried they saw the butter and a lot of
people saw that, like, you guys were connected. I thought we were
connected. Yeah, well we thought you were. Butter is raws and brain.
Yeah, and it's we just we just don't know, man, we
we we. I didn't know them before like five months ago. I started
meeting them, we started hanging out, met their team. It's just for
four dudes who like put us together. Each one has a different like category
they take care of and like, uh today the grower there is this amazing
dude. He is pulling out some amazing things there. Guys like they have
and the reason why we like working with them so much, it's very consistent
product, very consistent with every time we get it. It's we we don't
have surprises. We are able to get many different strains, like strains that
you're not seeing on the market, like things that are coming up like I
mean, like this Sunday School that we that we used as a mixer into
the Bring your Best dab. So the Sunday School is there happily ever after
wash with Communion, it's that one we were talking about that has a yz
very hazy, very like mango green cracked old school vibes, but like it
Uh sorry, do you guys want one to? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
I was gonna do the puff go. I've been like I'm drooling over
here a little bit, so you know what I'm saying. No, well,
no, it's great to hear and like learn about how much you can
and stuff, but like at the end of the day, like I'm excited
to try this product. Yeah yeah, And it's not like I haven't tried
it. It's just like after smelling them all, they all if you guys
see, like, I'm excited between everything we we do with them, like
they just put it. That is grease one eleven. Was that the one
you did with water or is that a different grease mince or was that because
I remember it, wasn't that the same strain that you guys did with butter
right? One of them? At least? Yes, I saw that's the
one I saw. Yeah, yeah, so that's here. We uh we
had the opportunity to watch watched their Grease mins one eleven as in a shout
out east Side Alchemy. They did the two thirty three. Johnny's doing some
amazing stuff over there. Yeah, but uh no, we like working with
them. They have some amazing strains in their unique things that are coming up
that you're gonna have to see. Like many many other places, they're just
some down earth guys like they they aren't like they are doing some really fun
things. There's there's staff culture. When I came in the store was just
amazing, Like everybody wanted to speech you, talked about you. Everybody was
a hash out of the store, wanted to learn more about it. And
they've just been very fun to work with and like really kind of like everyone
that we've kind of started kind of closing on our family or community we call
growers and kind of like who we work with right now beyond Green Voyage,
Bloom Butter Pure Coast. It does seem like you're do You seem like you're
you're doing welcoming more in the family and doing a lot more collapse And I
love that, you know, you know, shout out to one of our
like homies that we had on the podcast. A fifth Age does that a
lot and works with people that they connect with their brand. And I think
that sometimes when you're like you do this really great, let me do this
really, it's just like, you know, you can come up with some
really good stuff. So I like to see. That's really cool that you're
seeing that and kind of expanding out. Oh yeah, and like our whole
thing is we want to highlight these small growers in the state. You know,
there's there's some large companies out there that have that recognition and are you
gonna be coming out with more full mot Yes. So that's and that's kind
of like the sneak peek into uh where we've been doing a live star and
six star selections because I want to dab some points. I absolutely let's let's
let's get some full melt going. So what we got here is Butter's Alien
cookies, cushments. It's I mean, when I mean this stuff starting battering
up, I love it. I love it over here. Oh yeah yeah,
so yeah, I'll probably pull a little off because that's a chalker unless
you want that my man challenge. So all right, you got to go
a little hotter for this. So for for any of your guys, fans,
or anyone out there who doesn't know what full melt is. A full
melt we explained it a little earlier, but it's just the unpressed hash that's
called bubble hash. But it's a consistency and clean enough that will not leave
debris on your banger. So and that is our hope now to understand with
full melts, you will get debris on your banger. Yeah, it's the
expectation, but there is a different high. It's personally my favorite high.
You get a more full spectrum high on it. Honestly, it's it's uh.
If you talked a lot of hashmakers, they're going to tell you they
don't like dabbing full melt, but they love the effects of full melt.
So like it can, it can be a dirty banger, and we're at
the perfect time. So I was just going in there at like four eighty
to four seventy five because you're not burning the chirps and you're not gonna you're
not gonna create carcinogens. So exciting, Yes, in silence, willibuts Dave,
I would say that looks pretty clean. Wouldn't you say, Yeah,
that's what I was looking at. I was just that looks super clean.
I'm excited to try that. Oh, run away, run away, away
away. I don't know if that's a song, but it's going to be
today. So when is? When is? When's your full melt hit in
the market. That seems like you're almost like and how does that taste?
Well? What I was trying to get into, But it tastes what I
love about fullball versus like like a rise. It almost stays almost true more
to like the weed. And that's a little bit more that true taste,
you know when you heard it this guys okay, I he's like taking the
words before I can even say. But no literally, and like that's why
I got into hash from originally because we were making BHL at the time,
dude, And like I I was just first I didn't like the you know,
putaine in the second it wasn't like the weed. It wasn't like the
weeds. And I was like, man, if I can get so that's
why I want to drive in my mouth the tastes of stone, oh man,
and like and man, I want to show this on the little cam
here but I mean we we so dipped it and like barely anything on there,
guys, so like, oh yeah, very Actually let's let's down here
super clear. Look at that. Yeah, a little bit on there,
and that's the thing you want to expect, so you always want to get
in there. And if I could see a Q tip, usually this is
a good good thing to do. Get a little bit on the outside,
make sure you got nothing. But the thing you're looking for is really if
you can clean off full melt with the same thing, two Q tips and
then a little bit of ISO, that's where it's going to be a good
full mount. That's clean up. It's not going to ruin your bangers.
But key under five hundred four eighty is a good time for full melt.
You can always give it a slight more heat, but you're not trying to
know. I always tasty, man, I'm excited for day over here.
I'm excited too. Now now now you excited to steal his dad? Yeah?
Now if you have an option, Now you have an option. We
have another pure coast. Interesting cause I thought you almost would go hotter because
it's more solid. But when you go cooler, you really hit you really
taste that flavor because when I was doing the full melt before, I was
trying to heat it hotter because I thought it was because almost like just my
brain was yeah, so I didn't get that full flavor. I was like,
okay, it's I get it tastes more like bud right, but it
didn't have that full that actually had flavor in it, like not actually had
flavor. It had the full like turpy flavor them oh yeah, And like
I mean, if you think about the term of itself, it's full melt.
So the aspect is we wanted to fully melt, so it should indeed
a lot of remember that's what we get. We get full molt. That
was pretty much people just lying to us and giving us and then I want
to I wanna sorry this is no, no, no, I'm sorry,
this is this is I haven't opened this jar since it's been pulled out the
fridge. And once again, they always surprise us. So that Gangster me
we looked at earlier was some of the first stuff we watched with them.
We have another one that's coming out that where I believe we're the first people
to watch the number five of this. But it's a grand prix, so
once again living. So I beganics and this is how you this is.
This is usually a good sign when you have some good film. Melts dead
center. Yeah, okay, it lays down and looks yes, okay,
really literally, I thought it was like fresh press or something. So this
is full mout so glossy. It's got that glossy. Look here, let's
get some out of here. So I'm literally staring at my little screen when
it's right behind the screen. I could just like look at the actual I'm
like, damn, I can't see the term. So I can just like
look up a little bit and like you'll see here, let me go back
holes away from itself there here Actually, let me go full screen with that
can of cam so people can get the factor, the factor. Let me
know where I am you. Yeah, so this is the grand pre number
five by them. I believe we're the first one to do. What do
you watch this? But this is an amazing full mount. Unfortunately this time
we will not be launching the full moult on this time, so we're going
to do it again with them. But this came out amazing. Guys.
We're very excited and yeah, it looks really nice. Yeah, we're really
excited to start dabbling more into full mounts and start getting the customer people in
general just more more educated on it so that like they know what they're getting
into. So like first they're not doing it. They're not smoking something that's
going to cost them a lot wrong, because that's what we all hate it.
It's like when you buy something you have no idea how to use it,
Like you're just like to me, when I buy a new cannabis product
and I have no idea how to use it, it's like I kia,
I fucked that ship up. Dude. Every time it's it doesn't it doesn't
work right, like it's falling over. It's like teeter tottering. But when
you get good instructions concise, all right, all right. I look at
Canada, so it's like Christmas and this one's the if you haven't got to
smell that, that's like pure candy. Well you're candy. I don't even
remember smelling that one because we liked, Oh you didn't. I'm like,
whoa, I would remember that that one was that one was warming up.
And and here's the thing too, I've had Grand Prix and it did not
smell anything like that. So and I want to show you why it looks
like that. And it's funny. I didn't even I remember not buying the
Grand Prix again because I was like underwhelmed by it, and I now this
is, oh yeah, dude, and like it's it's it's the it's the
minute that you can touch it. It it gets that like sheen to it.
So as soon as you start messing with this stuff, it basically starts
bursting those heads. But if you're not touching it at all, like how
I did that. I whipped that up a little bit last night and then
put it back in the fridge and then came over here so that when it
came back to orange orange turps. Almost that they've explained this to me,
I'll have to get the information from it again. But it's a grandy candy
or something like that. Definitely got some sweetness to it. It's very uh
wow, man, the wish there you go, sir, thank you.
If if we're all doing it, then after that, I'll have to get
Xeno full Ount death too, So that's why. But yeah, so we
we do plan to launch the fum out here soon. Looks beautiful, man,
we just really want. We're probably gonna do pre sale drops. That's
something you're gonna see coming from us soon, where we'll be putting things up
where you can go purchase it before it gets in stores. So they'll be
in limited supply really because we want to kind of isolate the particular customer at
first from making making an uneducated purchase before they know exactly what's going on.
And like that's why I'm happy I could come on your guys' podcasts so we
can kind of like start start talking about these things and like have those kind
of discussions and like more people that can hear these things and more people get
educated, the sooner that we can start introducing more of these products on like
a regular But we do know that people want full melt in a good way,
but they want good full melt well the kind of sewers want these unique
like different types of like almost like I would call it like like concentrate arts.
You know, I don't know the right the kind of sewer brand.
You know, you get the patellas, you get the full mels, the
you know, different all these different type of things where I feel like when
you the more and more you get into concentrates. The more and more you're
like, what's that? You know, what's exactly exactly and like, so
that's the kind of thing we want to do, is we want to always
just kind of introduce new things, be the education platform for like people who
want to learn more about Rosin. So, like I always tell everyone hit
me up on our Instagram. We always answer. We always always every single
time, So like jusual pretty quick too, but no, and like so
yeah, we're excited. Like that's one thing we're coming out with. We're
gonna start doing some other things, like we're testing out like jam texts and
different Rosin texts like it, oh jam Rosin Jam. I've had some really
like flavorful something that's where I used to get that like, oh that's really
turpy because you could see the terps right, you know. But at the
same time, it just depends on the hash. It is crazy. All
right. I say, give it about ten seconds and we saw it.
Brother, all right, thank you. So people again, though, are
you looking at a compete again with any competition draining? Because when we met
you a big deb do we say the strain earlier? What you entered?
What you want on I can't ever said that we actually have I know we
have them separate here. So what we entered was u A. It was
a cross, right, that's why it was. It was yeah, it
was a mix. So it was lou Bega and Sunday School, So it
was we when we did the we had about twenty twenty five people out that
for some more some of our followers and friends and uh basically had a taste
testing to kind of yeah, you gonna maybe come out yeah, yeah,
yeah, and it's just kind of like to see what the difference, Yeah,
what the difference and like because we we we make this stuff and I
see it every day and I'm biased, Like I can't enter what I'm what
I think because it's not always the best decisions. So like, and we
found out there we were going to enter one thing where we felt, uh
when after the results came in, it was the mixture and like it was
it was because like the Sunday School gave it that nose, but the Loo
just had it, just had that z turp and liked t Yeah it's crazy,
dude, I used to not like because you used to Well, I
like the flavor. I love the flavor, but it gave me such a
head high where I was like too much, too much going, So like
for me, it took me a little bit, but yeah, Project Z
brought me over. It's brought me over to the Z side. And like
that one was a good conversation of like a run see and you know we
were literally just talking about doing this like set up and yeah, and I'll
say it burns slightly darker than the alien cookies cushments, but it's environment.
It's an environment. So like if you if you think about it, that
was very very I was going to ask you in like thirty seconds because you
can still taste I was like, that's that's good stuff. And that's my
favorite Roson and hash when you get you can still taste it like thirty seconds.
A minute after you're like, wow, holy shit, that was flat
flavorful. You know you know those So which ones are the film mounts?
Yeah, so we haven't sent the Fall outside of these. So the first
one, the first full out we are going to be launching, will be
our new if you guys saw it, the pink purple fullmount oh no idea,
Oh so I don't have any on me. We just sent it out
for testing. So, oh, I didn't know I messaged you the purple
stuff I lived. I was like, yeah, I was like, I
messaged someone about this, like it was you. Yeah. I was like
no, because to me, it's like back in the day when it's purp
you know, but they would drop the temp like it's definitely like kind of
just the thing. But it's super cool and it's rare. It feels like,
right, you just had to mention it was rare. Right, that
doesn't happen a lot. Yeah, No, you don't see it often,
you know. There's a few people that I've seen have it, like tri
Cone Tortoise, He's won a few awards with his uh I think it's on
one O four uh z boof full Oult and it has a pink pinkness to
it. And then there was Brian's Hiss, who I believe has a method
of using anthos to kind of like add them back in. So this is
what I was gonna ask. Is it a process or is it a strain?
Is it actually a strain? Okay, So that's what I was.
That's what I was curious because like like back in the day, purpose some
were true somewhere more like they would drop the tem So I'm like, can
it is there some trick that people are doing that or did you literally find
some magic strain that was just kind of strain and I feel it's actually pink?
Yeah, simple dude. I was like, damn, I want to
try it. It's cool because like I told them, I was like,
my god, it's and it's it's it's haste amazing. So like it's Mac
and Gary and I'll let you guys know this will be a strain we're gonna
have all the time. It's actually a single source. So uh big big
canna. Close friend of mine, Jared, he is growing out of a
small building in ed Moore, growing some fire guys. First thing, he's
I guess some really cool genetics in there. But this Matt Gary that he
has, it's insanely pink like on their actual like Instagram page when you look
at the buds, it's even more pink in person. And then like it's
like magenta, like you know, like the color that is in your printer.
Well that's what it does. It looks like almost like like a like
a pink or purple, but it's still more purple on that side. Like
that's like but ah no, I literally said the same thing. I was
like, I know, I don't know if it's going to make it taste
more better, more better, but more no, I mean like I have
pride with that more better, more better hash egg No, but for real,
but for real. Sometimes that stuff that's there, I can see the
hashtag trending. No, why do you like? Who know we're more better?
That's hilarious. No, but shit out. Oh but I know,
I know it's kind of just like a thing, right, I don't know,
it's just like a thing. It's purple. It's cool, but like
I want to try and that rare stuff is very unique. So it's like
when you can hone that in, that's cool. And to get that specific
pheno and it does that, it's like, that's cool man. So that's
cool. So yeah, and we we're gonna try to capture the same thing
next time. This is gonna be straight. It's gonna be always around.
He's gonna be growing in the building next to us for us, So it's
gonna be straight. We're gonna keep around for a while. As it's I
like to describe the flavor of it like grapefruit. Thanksgiving dinner if that's the
best, like super savory but has like grapefruit. Huh yeah. But yeah,
so like it's the ninety through one nineteen first wash only first wash,
not second washed, so first cycle, and like I said, we were
we washed differently. Like I said, it's usually fifteen to twenty minutes.
I'm not going to get in this time. Maybe next time. But we
watched, we watched it. We're more gentle. Yeah, we'd love to
have you back and talk hash too, because we've thought about it, you
know, you know, maybe bring a couple people to make hash Oh and
I mean shout out to Trip Scientific. He's another license hashmaker like myself.
That's a small, small operator. We're going to be doing that. Oh
yeah, we talked about this before. But the hash to Table event,
oh yeah yeah, so yeah, we're going to be We're hoping end of
March, but it might be postponed a little bit later. We're going to
be doing a hash to Table event. So we're going to have a Michelin
star chef come out, do a five course meal where we're going to have
five different hashmakers. So we're going to feature two licensed every time, and
then three traditional markets so right now it's going to be Whuna and Trip Scientific.
We have Chlorus Flora. If you has ever heard the name, he's
amazing. He's won a few awards. Recently, he won a my favorite
trophy ever, it's the it's a I think it was a pot look event
and he got like a pizza guy. But it's like a pretty dope.
It's pretty dope. And then we're also hoping to get a few more few
more names coming through. I can't say who yet, but basically it's gonna
be we're going to give the Michelin star chefs those five hashes. He's going
to go and prepare meals that are gonna pair well with it. You're gonna
come out, You're going to pay a donation fee to us, and then
we're gonna be able to first take care of the take care of the chef,
and then also take care of the hash makers so that you guys get
to go home with a jar of each one of these hashmakers. Hash.
Yeah. So I'm like, oh man, I might have to make the
drive. Yes, And the whole thing is we're we're not doing it to
benefit for ourselves. We're kind of doing this to create a space for it.
It's gonna be small, so it's only about thirty people. So and
it's supposed to be an area where we can get like people together in the
industry, so that like minds can have a place where it's not the event.
It's not the sponsorship event, it's it's the Hey, we get to
have a fun night and talk to the same people in the same room in
an area where sometimes it's a little too chaotic. Yeah, I get that
sounds but yeah, but I don't remember what we were talking about before that.
Guys, real quick, where did the name Hudah come from? Oh?
Man, Okay, so yeah, man, we didn't even ask that,
So shout out, shout out, Mama Huna. So that's my mother's
nickname. So let's see, years ago, my parents started dating and they
went to uh, Mexico before I was even born. They were in a
bar and there was a bartender kept calling the drink that they were getting the
honey, and the drink honah. So ever since that day, my dad's
called my mom hunah instead of corner honey. And then as we grew up,
we had like a little boat used to go on to like Cedar Point,
and stuff and it was called Hona Times. She started baking company in
the nineties and pat and a few rests in peace and then that whole story
of like her catching me and like doing all that. So I came back
from the military and she was actually found out I was doing I was growing
and doing all these things. And she was actually the first person to tell
me, well, if you're going to do this, why don't you just
actually take it seriously. So from that day on we kind of like did
that, and we were thinking of like names and like what I could do,
and like I had my old caregiver brand, and like I wanted to
stay close to home again. So you know, sometimes we need that nudge
and sometimes that nudge really goes a long way. So yeah, Mama Huna,
look where you are now that you guys actually got to meet her.
She was the blonde lady who was standing right behind us at the apopp Oh
really they gave the food we had, Yeah, but no and like and
like Mamahuna, like yeah, and like everyone thinks a ton of but everyone
we thought everyone does, like and like you know, I did. It's
just funny after like okay, like gave after was like hunaha, and he
was trying to memorize it, and he was just like kept laughing, like
we're doing there, but he's like, yeah, he's just trying to memory
now. Sorry, guys, that was probably that's I thank you. Sorry,
dude. I love this, just like the hand of like debs.
I love it. But yeah, I had the idea to put the little
line about the you so everybody knew. But then I sat we were sitting
there and we were all going back and forth, and I'm just like,
you know what, I'm gonna leave it, and and it takes me back
to wild and like I wanted to create a brand that wasn't that. I
wanted to create a brand that was a journey. So like and like I'll
get into like how we were able to make that kind of journey and like
what we just did yesterday the Live but I wanted, like I wanted you
to feel like, man, I just completely forgot my train of thought there,
dude, It's completely fine. It's bud. You're talking about Mama Huna
and the journey of the brand logo. Oh oh yes, yes, yes,
yes, thanks thanks thanks, And like so the reason for like not
putting the dash above. It is like I wanted people to like have a
conversation about it. So like when you talk about her name, like you
might you might know a Tuna. He might know it's he might think it's
Hannah. So then when somebody meets they're like, oh, dude, I
love Hana Hash And he's like, no, dude, Tuna, I met
the owner. I'm at the employee. They're like, no, dude,
it's spelled Hannah Hash the owner. You just set her name a few times,
and it's created like a conversational piece instead of just like a name that
you purchase. Yeah, that's a that's actually really a positive way to spin
it too, because to be honest, we had issues with people going calling
us mechanic cast. Oh, mechanic casts. We're like, oh, yeah,
I guess, but why is that my candic cast? M why canic
cast? But we spelled am I because it's a Michigan right, It's exactly
right, exactly you know. And that that's all it was, is kind
of the word I'm playing, but like it's something to connects to you,
to the brand and its roles them. And then I didn't even think about
the marketing aspect so that's that's a really cool way to look at You gave
me a whole new way to look at that mechanic ass and like so that
ties into like everything we wanted, like somebody to get flashy packaging, have
an amazing product that has info on it that gets some like excited and learning
new things on top of it. We wanted to give the full round circle.
So like I was coming in and I wasn't seeing any of the customer
activations, like things that made people feel like they're with you instead of just
like purchasing an expensive product. So hold on, pass stand by for a
commercial break to you by Sunday School, butter Sunday School. You're seventy through
one nineteen micron selection for today. I know, so yeah, I like
it. There you go. Now we're talking so the whole boll day,
I want to do it. I spent some time in Colorado and shut out
a very successful company out there, also very small company, Olio hash So.
Olio is one of like the more for brands in Colorado, And when
I was out there, I was buying their products and they came with like
these little dabbers. I thought it was awesome because like I was traveling,
so like, that's what I mean, ye get away that shit dude I
had. I didn't have a dabber, and I was like, shit,
I'm like looking around, I'm like, what am I going to get them?
I'm off the plan meetings all day, I'm I'm in the parking lot
of a hotel and I'm just like, man, I just want to get
high at this point, right I can't, And like I saw this,
I'm like, dude, this is awesome. So like when I came out,
I wanted to take it to a next step further and I want to
do something to like help like let the people who smoke our hash and our
community kind of be a part of this. So, like these were the
first designs we did. We have one different design for ground Score and a
different design for Huna. So I did the first ones. Going further,
We're not going to do them ever again. It's going to be our customers.
So during every four times a year, every during three months of those
four times a year, we allow our customers and followers and community to go
on to our page like share, follow, and gain entries through a social
media post. At the end of those three months, we then picked three
winners. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, and we just did this recently
on our life and like, so we we have three mystery backs. We
always throw amazing products into these. So the first time we did it,
we just did this. The other day we gave away dave x goes.
So they're similar to a puff go. Yeah, they're pretty dope. So
yeah, I was entered and and like that is I love? Can we
say it? Can we talk about it? Know? Yeah, so this
is funny. I was the pre spin so I could have he could have.
So we we want to make sure things are running right and we do
things right. I do the same thing. I do the same thing.
So I'm not hating it's I just I think it's knew exactly what Groovy was
was our was our test test spend. He was our test spend. Yeah,
so oh my god, if I would have won three ride so yeah,
I get what do you feel? What are you feeling? We had
the time last time, Groovy, So for that, I'm going to give
you the gangspoo today We're not going to get you home get empty handed.
I just like I like to no, dude, thank you wo and you
know, and I'm happy to give it to you guys. Definitely. It's
for both you guys, honestly, So like I heard me, So you
guys, it's okay. It's okay because you know what, I'm just messed
around. No, but it's been really fun. No, and I I
I joke only because like that's a really cool way to do things. We
like to do that. And it's very fair when you're doing that role,
you can just you click. It's it's fair, like you know, because
sometimes you don't know why people winn. So like that's cool. No,
I didn't, man, And and to double down right think they like to
call me the White Opera David want you to look underneath your seat right now?
Oh my goodness, he has nothing but no, no, that one's
for you. But so I figure you guys, you guys can share back
and forth. He's gonna have a full out. You'll have you'll have the
gangs taboo. So you guys can you know, dabble into both worlds.
But but no and like so like so so back to it. So like
yeah, so every every three months we have three winners. We do mystery
bags like things like dabex goes uh product coupons, swag, even some samples
from some of our growers and stuff like that. And basically the best thing
about it though, is is that our first place winner is the main thing.
You get all the same things, but you get to come out and
sess with us for a day. If it's possibly you know, I'm just
throwing this in here on I'm on on a podcast someday, you know,
maybe with that with that person. But uh but uh but uh no.
In in some way we bring them out, We sash with them, if
it's in our lounge that we have or if it's in h that it's really
cool lounge. Yeah, yeah, And basically we let them come up with
that next dab or design. So we give them the opportunity to basically like
come up with ninety percent of it. We give it the hounah, the
honah, little flair, yeah, the little touch, and get our logo
on there, get ours, get our social media, and give it a
little aesthetics. But we let them come up with the with the main idea
for the next average so that basically you're not coming in the store feeling like
you're just purchasing an expensive product. It's like every time you're come in.
It's like you're part of something and eventually maybe you know, this year,
next year, five years. We do it four times a year and there's
three winners, so you never know, like that's twelve people years, that's
forty eight people in four years. But it's the opportunity to like kind of
like, yeah, give it, give it to the people, you know,
and like get that thing out there. You did actually get muted,
so go ahead. Sorry, I didn't realize you got muted. I accidently
hit my elbow. To do with my elbow, I was like, even
I heard Dave in a while, is he not talking? And I hooked
over. I'm so sorry. So I hope that one too. No,
you're good, good, No, but thank you. And that's cool man,
And like it keeps your customers engaging in your social media and it's fun.
You know, it's really fun to sash. We're all just dabbing,
hanging out. I think you did a Graham dabs that was fun. You
know, yes, I actually did too. We love streaming. Like if
you don't haven't checked out the Waken Bake, you know, shameless plug,
but nine am Eastern times, come join the Waken bake nine am, ten
am. We come and we just it's just fun to I know, it's
fun to sash with like the community, right and you know we we we
get you know, awesome brands, we get awesome people, awesome like caregivers,
and it's just like this whole cool conversation, you know. And it's
like we try to be like kind of like a fun just loving weed,
you know area. You know, you got you guys. Are you guys
are my Saturday mornings? Yeah? So no, no, literally I'm always
like, Okay, throw these guys on, let's do some work. That's
awesome. So uh but no, no, And like that's the thing is
like I'm a true believer and and like there's a bunch of hash brands and
we got nothing against any of them. We want to work with all of
them. We want to do collap things like like and like it's up.
It's like the different things that you do, the different way you wash,
and the different thing that you provide your customer along with Eventstually we're going to
be single source here soon, so we're going to have our own in house,
green glass, greenhouse, living soil. I was gonna ask because you
keep talking about caregivers stuff, and like it seems like have you been in
the game around or have you ever do you grow personally yourself? So we're
a team. So we're a team I grew. I grew for many years.
I mainly have always been in production, so washing and pressing my thing.
But no Xavier on our team has been a huge part of our team.
Honestly, we couldn't have been here without him. He's from Shelby,
Michigan, so about an hour's south so like, but we're in Maynistee,
so we're very far up in the northern Michigan. But basically I met him
through seminars and stuff over the years. He's very knowledgeable, gentleman, very
works very well to the team. Uh and on top of it, he's
dedicated man like he's dedicated to the same pash and he has towards hash as
I do. He's brought some some his watch techniques in that have really changed
some of the ways we've done things with chlorophyll and stuff. So but he's
if he's a passionate as you or even half like I can imagine his passion.
You know, we met him briefly. I bring your best dad.
But like it seems like you are really passionate. That's like, well,
we'll come back again. I mean I would love to come back on sooner
than later. I love talk. We can talk some hash. We can
talk some process this time, because it's really great to learn about who know
and everything. But like we can talk some hash process and I love talking
about hash. So that's that's something we're definitely don with. Same with Xavier.
We both love talking about processes and everything. So like you but but
yeah, and once again like it's it's uh, we're small, so like
I can't do it really without my wife Sina, without Xavier. Give all
your shoutouts. You know, my two axes both start with the letter acts.
It's actually pretty crazy. Wow, Xavier, Xena right common something I
thought about even think about it? Yeah, so U but xxx Oh wait,
no, man, there's a lot of people who kind of helped along
the way. Shout out, uh, shut out wild. You know they've
been wild, you tell shout out earlier, shout out resin heads. My
close friend he's won a few awards with his genetics, very local to you
guys as well. But me and him did a lot of our first operations
together. He got me really heady into Rosin, this newer age Rosins.
So like, other than that, man, like just shout out to all
the girls we work with. We couldn't do it without them. Their quality
of growth and cleanliness and willing to work with our very tedious harvest restrictions.
So you have a very specific when you go see these growths. I imagine
you go check out the girls, you have a very specific guideline that if
they don't hit that criteria, you're just like, yeah, we do,
and we do test washes of everything. So and we also like to try
to smoke the weed as well. And like it's also not like here's the
thing too, is we're We're I'm humble. I I like working with humble
people, so like that's cool. I character is a huge thing for me.
So like and like even the companies and vendors who work with to equipment
we work with, like shout out low tempt like there's a reason now with
that. Yeah, we interviewed him and like, actually we were a biscount
right in a live press shout out LEVI shout out, shout out the people
behind the scene, Matt and the Hunter and uh, very good. So
I mean these guys, there's many different equipment companies you can go to.
I personally felt they had the best customer service in the game. So like,
and that's a huge thing for me. Being able to communicate with someone
as a huge thing. So like that goes the same way with their growers.
Like you can have the biggest name in the world, but honestly,
if it's not easy to work with you, and like we can't be friends
and how you're going to do business, you can't communicate. And I'm not
the type of guy it's like a once a month transaction, like I'm doing
this for the rest of my life. So like people we like to work
with, I kind of like to have that same thing. So right,
but I mean family vibes, I appreciate that, yes, yes, and
like so I mean like new growers, let's tell you get a true investment
though in the brands when that cohesiveness, when you kind of invest each other
and there's like you know, helping each other build and know whatever way,
So that's cool. It's a synergy man, Yes, entergy yeah literally,
and like but yeah, like we're about to start working with a couple of
new growers Happy shout out, Happy Little TreeCo. So they're a little organic
operation out of I've seen them somewhere. There a lot of organic beganic growers.
Yeah, he does. He does a genetic prefer organic growers, I
always. I mean, is that part of the guidelines? So no,
it's not a part of the guideline or so there's a big thing that comes
down with genetics. We don't like really running a lot of the same things.
There is popular things that we want people to have the same thing.
We like to have different things all the time. I get you, Uh,
most of the time, it's it's smaller. We like to I like
people who aren't getting highlighted. And when we see quality that isn't getting that
highlighted, we want to want to There's a lot of nobody knows about man
like in this game. And unfortunately the marketing game kind of gets a lot
of these people like, you know, they don't have giant marketing budgets.
You know, some of these brands can spend tens of thousands of dollars a
month, Like it's nothing like unbranding, and it's just not fair because the
people are like, oh, I'll try that. I've never seen it.
And they're not even the ones who give a ship, you know, they're
the ones who are just buying the billboards but not all and like it's like
some of the smallest girls in the state shout out lost leaf. Man.
If you guys ever had his flower, No I did. Didn't you say
that earlier? Dude chat like on the scene. Let's let's say so,
so I watch you guys, it's probably already sold out that he's very small
batch. His intrigue intre very small batch. But uh, you guys metal
I think so. He was at he was at the Bringer Best Dab.
He was walking around with us and uh, they're a booth up. Maybe
I don't know we're talking about it. He did. He did the Olympics
too, he was there, I think. But but if you guys haven't
tried his stuff, honestly, it's some amazing stuff. He's got nobody else,
Yeah, really good stuff. That's the who the lou beg is.
But I know, man, it's like, we we like working with people
who have who like to have fun first thing. That's what we like to
work with. A bout school. Those guys are just awesome. They're fucking
really cool. They're always they're always talking you up, and they're always and
they're always just looking to not turn it into a business, and more so
turn it into a conversation. Yeah, and like trying relationship, trying to
try new things, and like with a new product that we're coming out with
that I kind of briefly discussed with you guys that we feel that is gonna
be a revolutionary thing in the in the cannabis industry, at least in Michigan
where we know we're gonna be some of the first to do it and like
a more effective, consistent scale. But we have certain growers who are willing
to work with us to kind of like are indeed these things and come up
with these things. So like when we launch these things, like they're gonna
be kind of like pre sale, so like we're gonna launch with specific stores
and like yeah, you know, and we got these kind of exclusive drops,
yes, right, yeah, kind of like an exclusive drop where like
this is where you can get it, and then after you can get a
little bit, but it's like a limited type exactly. Yeah. Yeah,
and that's kind of like how we're gonna We're not gonna launch who a head
stash like that, but whuna headstashes? What we're about to launch here,
and it's gonna be all two gram jars, but it's gonna be limited micro
batch two gram pucks man that masally back to like legacy stuff, right two
grams and like you know, and an aspect an aspect it should be right
around that price and like so what we're with those ones, it's gonna be
a uh micro batch. So like with lastly, if we run five thousand
grams of material, so we get less than one hundred and fifty grams.
Oh yeah, I mean that's where you run, is the head stash.
You got to charge, Like that's that's what it was, right, you're
paying for the top shelf. It's because you're getting low and to be transparent,
like yes, you're paying, and like we're not going to put something
in here just because we only ran a little bit. We're putting it in
here because he's only got six hundred and forty square feet of canopy space,
right, and it's him who sees these plants every day, and like he's
putting the touch. It's the Genetics Senate. Also, it's our award winning
stuff. But at the same aspect, it's a it's a true I don't
know how to say it, it's a true way to express a micro batch
because you have to mark, you have to present it to the people who
are going to appreciate it most, and I feel that they're The nice thing
is we're going to launch it in multiple grades, so you're gonna be able
to get it in our tier two and tier three. Yes, yes so,
but interesting. Yeah, I thowt Headsta you know Headstad had Sash because
it's our first wash of it. So it's the first wash seventy through one
nineteen specifically of just that. But it's also a very low yielder, so
in aspects that we're probably not going to bring these things around again. Like
the Baiji that we ran for him, it's amazing and Flower and everybody loves
is buys you, but it's it's an under it's like a two and a
half percenter, so like it's hard for us to really watch And like with
the Loo, it's like just at that point where we're gonna be able to
keep it around and do it often. But the thing we found with is
full Mouth is amazing from it. So that's amazing different. Yeah. So,
and it's the best full melt I've probably seen. And I've been hunting
for full melt like this for a long time. Yeah, whenever we did
earlier this stuff. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for you guys,
And like even like, I wonder how it looks now even after that
time, you know, so I see how it's starting to come clear.
So wait until tomorrow and then you're open and be like whoa. If you
want to preserve that and keep it like that, you can put it in
the fridge of the freezer or let it let it come up a little warmer
and then whip it really good and then collect it in one corner and then
just let it set and then it'll eventually kind of get battery over time.
Okay, yeah, wow, I appreciate. Yeah, you're doing it.
Yeah, no, you do it, you do it's your question. Let's
do all right. So we asked every guest that comes on this funny question.
So, yes, if you had a Ganja Genie pop up, say,
as you're lighting your uh, your nail right there, Gonda Genie pops
up, yeah, out and he created you to change anything within the cannabis
industry. What would you, uh, in a second, what I what
I would want to smoke or dab or get immediately, It's more like what
so, there's a lot of things going on in this can industry, a
lot of good, a lot of bad, right, and we there're still
not bad, a lot of things. That's still a lot of decriminalization.
Whatever I feel it needs to change anything. It could be anything like it
could it could be something like you know, people getting good full mount right.
It could be something We've had things people say like you know rosin for
all right, We've had people say, you know, decriminalization. Right.
We've had a range, but you know, there's just a lot. So
we just love to hear anything unique perspective. Two things, Oh that's okay.
Two wishes. Why he's his first wish? Two issues? Uh in
the second and the second if they let me, you know, it's a
pain a b. It's a two parter. It's one wish. It it's
a so first one is both are based around well. First one is testing.
So plate testing. Play testing is what we utilize in this state.
It used to be a standardized way to test, but then they introduce plate
testing. Think about it after a year of the licensed market opening. But
sorry, I keep moving off to the left. But so plate testing is
what reason why we don't see a lot of good flower on the market.
It's very inaccurate and it's what's causing you guys what Aspergillis is. Yeah,
I've seen those test results. Yeah, so Aspergillis. I just want to
let you guys know, it's everywhere. So if you go in your kitchen
right now, if you pull something out the dishwashing, you set on the
counter for two seconds and then you go send it to a lab, it's
going to have ten times more Aspergillis on it than the weed you smoke.
Okay, so it's just okay, So it's it's a. It's A in
high amounts and high high amounts, it's very bad and in long term exposure,
it's very bad. But unfortunately, because of plate testing, it's very
easy to fail for Aspergillis. Honestly, if it weren't for certain things that
I hate saying, but I'm going to just be I've been transparent that things
are sprayed on plants in the industry that don't get tests for. But it
helps passing tests because of that. It's why there's not good in a lot
of good cannabis. So shout out to a lot of the organic growers.
Yeah, you know a lot of them who keep it in fresh frozen,
But damn Gail. And then the second one, we need to test for
remediation or we need to ban remediation in the state. The fact that we're
allowed to. I always want to label it. At least I think I'm
with you, I'm with you on the band, but I do It's like
for me, I also understanding, you grow a huge crop and you book
up. Now you're gonna lose all that money and you have to like close
your doors because then if at least so does remediated crap, some people might
buy it for really low and you don't make some money. But it's like
it's like just the people should know. Some people don't even know what it
is. You know, we've talked about it and people are yeah, so
so, and like I'm gonna change what I even said, because that's a
way better way to approach it, because like we can't we can't win a
war without winning some battles. So like with and and and I think there's
a there's a store out there, I shout out Green Hippo where we are
not in them currently, but I would love to work with you guys.
But they work with like unremediated companies and like they are huge, huge uh
of activists and they go to all the meetings and try to propose for at
least labeling of remediation, like, hey, this product has gone through a
process of remediation because of A pesticides or B molds or see this and this
and that, and like there are people who don't care. You know,
we've been smoking cannabis. Some of us are smoking cannabis before breakway. Like
people will smoke whatever. Oh yeah, dude, And like people need to
grow in a miracle growth. If you test miracle grow, it's going to
contain mercury. And like so people people have been smoking this stuff and like
and and and so. Really it's like the two biggest things that I think
it's it's I want our state officials to be not to change laws, but
to to be more open to hearing of reasons why. And I feel that
there's more of a reason for I guess defensiveness because of how the laws have
been written prior then to openness of changing how things can go. And I
think once once a lot of the first new members come into the CRA and
into the state to are helping them out because I mean they are understaff guys.
Like that's one thing I'll say. I mean, it's a new department.
Like, it's a new department. Like so, but yeah, that's
that's my biggest thing, is like really it's it's I would love to see
some things that are really impeding the market currently for for things that are on
education. Yeah, and see, this is why we asked this question because
there's so much you know what I mean, that's like even you like you
can see as you start thinking about you're like, well, so that's that's
that's why we love this question. That one that was great. Let the
two answer slide. Those are two good ones. I do want to say,
Ross, I appreciates you, uh coming out. Man, this was
great. This was guys, very insightful, very educational, and I'm excited
for who know what you guys have coming out for this year. Sounds like
collabse some new products, not new products new again, I guess you we
got new products. We have vapes coming soon, so age I guess yeah,
yeah, I mean you talked a little about a future anything else you
didn't mentione because you were talking about full mo and saying you didn't coming out,
we are switching from the pop back jars to the Miuron jars. We
feel the Miran is just overall standard. We we were going back to our
roots, yes, yes, and then we're we're coming out with uh disposables.
They're going to be the two vapes, so all glass tops. Yeah,
and we're we're doing we're doing We're not doing a full spectrum on these,
so it's going to be limited micron once again. It's gonna be seventy
three nineteen, so very flavorful, very light color, so really yellow.
I've been questioned that they're just lit twice. Yeah, so so but that
clean yeah yeah. So like and like those are going to be limited to
like we're only launching fifteen hundred across the states, so like yeah, and
like so Texas on the drop, Yeah, I have to like make it
happen. I believe we're using a superhoof that we ran with the Peninsula Gardens.
That was that one that smelled very good, that one twelve terpenes on
that one that was dab that one too. I mean I mean definitely after
Yeah, yeah, definitely because I take up a lot of times sometimes I
do a lot, but no, dude, I love it. But uh,
you know then we also were also coming out that new product, so
keep we'll definitely have to uh come on here and talk about it when I
get closer to it, and we have like some of the things ready on
it, but uh no, we're just excited. We're we're going to kind
of cut up cut once we get to a certain mass stores and kind of
just like support the retailers we're with to kind of like support the growth that
we have so we don't kind of overgrow everything. So U but yeah,
we're gonna have our own single source coming here this year, hopefully by Midsummer,
and then uh that's that's kind of where we're at. We're going to
be competing in a few things. Uh. We got invited to the Camp
seven ten and he did get invite that I was going to ask because that
was kind of I don't know if that's not a big cloud, but like
the same crew I say in that world, you know, so someone I
met and I saw that ground, so he got invited very good, so
we'll be competing. He was very impressed with the LOO and then uh,
we might be dabbling at the Michigan Gems and andoutics as well as a collegers
too. I haven't seen that's the west side of the state. Yeah,
I've seen around. But we've also been talking about possibly doing our own kind
of hash hash event because we feel that where where we feel this is going
is that there's so many competitions kind of starting and there's no structure to how
all these are going, and there's just like we feel there's a lot of
monetization, monetization to these events when it should be based around kind of like
how sports are. So like we're we're kind of looking at is we want
to kind of be like a league. We want to elect official or two
in the state to pick judges and an unbiased decision. Those judges can't be
you know, consultants or had worked with or like have biased opinions to the
to the entries, you know. So but like at the same time that
you compete in a in a state, county, regional and then zoned strict
so like that I see kind of just literally like how sport you build up
like how you would back in that, Like I mean because I've did more
sports in high school like that, but structured sports you kind of build your
way up through a competition and it's kind of like you worked your way yeah,
you know, so I guess that's interesting. And like at the same
point as like public public voting, so like it's it's it's in the front,
so like it's being displayed as these things are being entered, like so
that it can't be like it's not like right and like and there's all the
time, you know, and that's how do you avoid that? You know,
it's it's it's not branding the material because that was my big thing when
they would put the brand on, I'm like, come on, just like
blind test it, yeah, and like thing with the same jars, you
know, and and it's really just like we want it to be because there's
there's coming more standardized. Yeah yeah, standardized, and like there's a lot
there's a lot that's going bad with the name of a lot of these contests.
We don't want that to happen because it highlights i mean high times that
issue happened to me because it seemed that's what happened. High Times a lot.
You know, it had a great name. And I'm not saying they
don't have a they have a fine shot out of High Times. They're fucking
awesome. We'll come on. Without the High Times magazines, candidate wouldn't have
been so obsessed with you know what I mean. It's not like I'm pating
on High Times. I just like the competition got so much more about how
many bags that can sell, and like you know, and like after the
pandemic kind of crushed it. I don't know. I again, yeah,
I like the events. I love their events, and I love their magazine
the content, but like just as far as like some of how the structure
changed, I just didn't trust it because it was like this could easily be
rigged. So it's a hard you know, And I'm with you. I
love the transparency. There's there's amazing there's amazing competitions out there. Ego Clash,
smoking Jacket, Bring your Best Dad was great? Uh, every contest.
Do I think there's something that can be improved? Yes? Are they
being improved sometimes? And like that's where it's just like we just want we
just want people to be open Okay, yeah, let's do this. Let's
keep it risks. Yeah, yeah, so I love it. That's cool.
So keep us evolved, you know what I mean, judges or streaming
or whatever. Keeps. Yeah, we were in. But any more questions
I can ask you before I hop off? No, I really, I
know that was majority of them and they honestly, we appreciate you. And
I feel like I've learned so much about hash. I hope everyone did too.
That's at home, you know, definitely check them out? Who know
hash A N N A H s A s H wow, but I got
it? Check out Instagram? Is that in the social media handle? And
then yeah, who knows anything else? Do you want to say? No,
No, thanks for coming on that to get out here. No,
it's okay, guys. I've been watching you guys a show for a while,
so it's kind of fun to come on. No, and I definitely
want to do more, so like, yeah, stuff, we'll be talking.
But no, anyone who I forgot Honestly, guys like I are like,
that's like, just shout out to anyone who I'm forgetting right now.
Lots going on in life, wear many different hats, so but no,
I appreciate you guys. It's been a lot of fun. Hey awesome,
Yeah, thank you. I'm excited to see what you guys got playing for
US twenty twenty four and continue popping off. Not even a year in business
and you guys his brands getting pretty big already. So thank yeah, and
that's always good. We're here to advocate, educate, and inspire the next
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