What's up Clippers fans, if you're watching this after we did this live,
thanks for thanks for rewatching this. I don't know why you would. That
was a bit of a weird one. No, you should definitely rewatch.
Come on, Welcome to Clips and DIP. I am Chuck Mockler, joined
by Will Updyck, follow Adam A. Adam Oslin is doing the radio on
a five seventy Right now. We're hanging out after the Clippers blow a twenty
one point lead to the Lakers. An absurd game from Lebron James which which
didn't make any sense. An absurd game from the Clippers without Paul George and
a Viza Zubats. What a weird way to end the Hallway series? Will,
how are you doing? Just immediate thoughts. We're gonna talk on the
chat and stuff. Thanks for having out, But Will, how are you
doing? We just obviously just watching that game. My brain's kind of melting.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot to take in. It's it's a
bummer, especially given the recent history between the two teams, that this is
the way that it'll end. But ultimately that's not what's important for the Clippers,
and that's not what's important for this season. But wow, what a
way for it all to go down. I just this team has just not
been looking great. I will say in this one there were at least stretches
from the starters where they looked really good. But uh yeah, just just
some of the miscues, the turnovers. Yeah that, I mean, that
was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. I don't know what. Okay, here
we go. Let's let's get into it this fresh. And everyone's on Michael
Sallas saying, I think we should play PJ. Plubly and rest together more.
We're gonna get the lineup from someone who's better at compiling it than we
are on Twitter when it's ready. But I think if you watch that game,
most people would put a large portion, not the whole thing, a
large portion of this loss on the plumbly h PJ. Russ's stint to open
that fourth. And I think that's fair. Yeah, no, that's absolutely
fair. And like PJ. Tucker, like, man, you're complaining,
you're talking all this all this stuff about like playing time, and you're you
won't take an open shot, a wide open shot. He almost did.
He was this close. He went up and then he passed it to Russ,
and Russ had to try and make some kind of layup and it didn't
work out. So we're getting some Taylu issues in here, and like help
hand his hand is so forced in this one, so who, Like I
agree that someone like the rotations, the way that we're constructed was a little
questionable, but like there's not a lot of depth there to work with.
Yeah, I mean that's fair obviously no zoo NOPG, but there's ways to
you, Like, there were just some issues too. We saw Daniel Tice
on Lebron James. I think that was fine because he was just taking threes.
He was just taking threes, but it wasn't just in the threes though,
like we and also why not put like then he wasn't going to the
paint he went to the paint. That was one time I feel like when
when Tys was on him, I could be wrong now I can't, but
like it's just it's all a blur. The way that one ended is uh,
yeah, I'm I'm just watching clips, I'm watching mode Dakiel's Twitter and
it's just like, yeah, we just we didn't the one time we didn't
let Lebron get the switch and get Daniel Tye or something like that. They
got the stop and that's how we got a chance to tie it up.
And the inbound play was bad. That was frustrating to watch. Yeah,
okay, so that I think is so questionable. I get, obviously you
want to get the ball in the hands of your best player, and they
did get Kawhi the shot. I just don't get while you're going for the
tie, why go for the tie? Like what? And I mean it's
a lower percentage shot to begin with. Yes, it is Kawhi, Yes,
I mean obviously you trust him, but why go for the tie?
It was just kind of the fast version of let Kawhi try and score.
Yeah, I was hoping. We've seen Tyler drop some fantastic atos this season.
You can't deny that. Even if you know, if you're not liking
Tyler right now, you can't deny we have seen him draw those up before.
I was looking for that tonight and we didn't see it. Again.
We're welcome to everyone watching. We're fresh off the Clippers blowing a twenty one
point lead against the Lakers. Oh yes, yes, they were down PG
and Zoo. But if you're up twenty one. You should probably win the
game. Let's talk where you're getting an outlier comment in here, which I
do think should also be acknowledged. Wait from race, Marlin, Race,
Marlin? Which race? If this is your real name, sick ass name.
Honestly, clips look good. I know this was a tough loss,
but Lebron's fourth is more of an outlier than anything. Not a bad point,
not a bad point at all. It was absolutely insane he shot.
Let me pull up the old box scorer so I can he was seven of
twelve from three. Part of that is an outlier, right, I mean,
you know it's it's the math problem, right, Like you can't stop
anything. I think, you know, having Lebron shoot those threes, like,
I mean, you keep somebody on him. You know, it's not
wide, wide open. But it's one of those shots that I think,
to a certain degree you have to live with. We also scored sixteen points
in the fourth quarter, so that's something we can maybe terrible terrible. Maybe
it wasn't entirely the defense on Lebron James that lost us the game. Maybe
it was also scoring six points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, James Harden
was two of nine from free to night. He had one of the worst
turnovers of the year. He started the game great, but he had a
really bad turnover in the fourth on this one. This was so, this
was a game where everything that could go right did for a period of time.
Yeah, one hundred and then everything that could go wrong also did.
Yeah, I mean I expected, I expected the falter to really come in
the third and then and then send him home. He was not good today.
Yeah. Uh, those turnovers, like I mean, absolutely pivotal in
the game. There was, Yeah, there was some lethargy there, I
mean less I thought so. No, I know, I'm just harsh words.
I just like they just had This team just hasn't looked as on a
string as we've seen them look before and and you know, post they just
haven't looked like the same team since that Grammy trip. They really haven't.
Yeah, the Grammy trip was a grind. I'm looking at the shot chart
right now from the clips and who did they miss a bunch of three pointers
of the fourth? I mean, yeah, sixteen points of the fourth is
insane. That's absurd. Yeah, that should never happen with this offense.
That's I mean, even down Paul George, That's that's ridiculous. Arren's had
a great game too, which if you're in the chat show, some love
to Terrence Man, who is well, Like, I mean, we used
to talk about this when the Clippers won that losing street when Zoo like started
having this breakout play, when when when Harden first came to the team,
Like, it feels like a waste to uh to lose those games, you
know, when you get out like I mean for Terrence, it's more consistency,
I guess than like a super outlier. But when you get those sort
of you, when you get those sort of games like you, you gotta
take it home, you know. Yeah, I mean it's seventy eight percent
from the floor from Terrence. Thank you. Michael Salas t Man has been
has been playing well, like three straight games. He's looking he's looking damn
good. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. So the Clippers, by
the Phil Jackson standards, no longer contenders. Yeah, uh so are lucid?
Why do the Clippers play PJ just because he spoke publicly? No,
because everyone's hurt right now. Yeah, there's why there's there's no other option.
I don't think we're gonna see Tye go back to Kobe Brown or something
in his place. I just I don't see it. I don't know.
I don't know if they're have their eyes or feelers out for any buyout candidates.
But they're like, there's no one else, there's no one else,
there's no one else. Yeah, I mean the auto Porter. Everyone wants
auto Porter Junior. That's someone who who clips fans want and sure, let's
I mean yeah, because PJ. Tucker's not doing it. You can't complain
like that. Get an open shot. Pass up the shot. Miss the
shot, I don't care. Miss yeah, missed the shot would have been
fine. Miss the shot would have been fine. It's the shot, It's
fine. Yeah. It was just that, I mean the first part of
this game was great though, right Like for a period of time, Daniel
Tice and Mason Publy played great in this game and really helped the Clippers out.
Ad got early foul trouble all because of Mason Plumley, which was lucky.
Of course, there's a crazy free throw disparity to start this game for
the Clippers, which, like, again, these are the things you need
to go right when you're down to starters on a team where We talked about
this with Adam. If you're new to the stream, welcome, by the
way, we host a podcast called Clips and Dip. Usually Adam osl is
with us too. This team's not that deep rotation player wise. M hm.
So when you lose two of the eight like seven, because you can't
count PJ. Tucker, he shouldn't be in the rotation, right Like,
I just don't think he can. I don't think he can play. I
don't. I don't see what value he adds on the floor. Yeah,
because it's it's just it's full blown four on five on offense. He's just
it's insane. Scott, he said, a good screen I guess, yeah,
sturdy screen Cetter not Yeah, I think he got a screen assist in
this game, which, hey, if he counted those, he was close
to a triple double. But yeah, I mean plumbly again to start this
game was good and then Plumbing just hit a wall that was in that that
fourth quarter when things just halted. This is a great question, Michael Statles,
what's gonna take to get bones in there? Couldn't tell you. It
doesn't seem like it's ever gonna happen. Yeah, I gotta be honest,
I don't know. This one is really puzzling to me, because you know,
it wasn't until he was sent home that we've found out like how deep
the rift had really gotten there and a strong word. I think he was
just a little yeah, yeah, I think there's been issues. And then
you know, we heard from some of the beat reporters. I think I
saw it from law Marie of the Athletic that you know, it seems like
he was sort of asked to to do some things to adjust his role and
and it seems like internally maybe those expectations weren't really met. I don't know
it was it to the level that he's no longer playable in an NBA game,
Like I guess, I'm not sure on that, Like it's that bad.
I mean, I guess, And I guess they're happy enough with this
guard rotation with Russ and Norm. Norm was rough tonight from three. Norm
was brutal tonight from three. Yeah, Russ, I don't know, okay,
is game he was plus three like not elite obviously, but when you
put them out there, when you have three non shooters out there, it's
like, what do we expect? That's not putting Rust in a position to
succeed. Yeah, and I'm not a rust Stan if those of you who
watched the show now, but I would like to see him succeed for this
team. So you gotta put up with shooters out there because that's how he's
effective. Yeah, yeah, I mean the lineup with just a lineup with
just him and PJ alone is never gonna work. No, Like, you
know, you add another you add another non shooter in there, and like
what what do you think is gonna happen? I just do not right,
There's only so much good that it can do, Like all the good on
offense with if you're playing with three non shooters, all the good on offense
is kind of lucky. Yeah, with three non shooters like that, I
do want to give Norm played some crazy off ball defense tonight, which was
surprising. He was like kind of like a free safety. It was.
It was kind of not Yeah, he's running around, he's getting active.
Yeah, I got absolutely destroyed. It still has that crazy thing on his
forehead ar lous hot in the chatte the loss of the Lakers. Maybe I
should call him sick maybe or just deal with it do it to Uh Yeah,
this one. I don't know, man, I did like the combat.
Someone pointed, someone point out the Lebron three point shooting was an outlier,
of course, Yeah, but it's also and there was a lot of
things that didn't help the Clippers. That was their own. I mean I
think, like, I just think the bigger thing, like the thing to
be mad about more than that, is just like the I mean the turnovers
and just like the lack the lack of execution. And I do really think
that Ato at the end was not great. It was tired legs, It
was not it was not good. That was the largest fourth quarter comeback by
a Lebron James team in his career. Wow, they were down twenty one
in the fourth and they won. Not good. Not good, not good.
No, hope pgs better by the time we play the Wizards. I
think you should be Yeah, people are hot in the chat makes sense?
I mean, this is this is not good. It sucks. Should we
get Rod on the pod? Might be done? Might be said, please,
we're already dead? Yeah? What uh? What can you? What
do you seriously take away from this game? What's your major what's your serious
takeaways? Let's try And I know it's hard because they just lost and we're
very frustrated, which makes sense. What are your serious takeaways from this game?
I mean, these Clippers' margins are just razor things. And it's still
the regular season and we know that the playoff rotations and stuff are gonna shrink,
but they just don't have the depth that we've been accustomed to before.
And especially Yeah, a lot of people are pointing out the size, like
especially with the size constraints on the roster, like, ooh, we're gonna
need I mean, we're gonna need sixty five games from both Kawhi and Paul
George and probably I mean, how many games can James even end up playing
seventy something every game essentially that he can play. It's just anything. Yeah,
anytime we have to have three bench players on the floor at one time
is not looking really good for the Clippers right now. Yeah, we're getting
some press conference quotes. Tylu was asked about the Russ Tucker Plubly spacing.
He said, there's space because PJ can shoot, he just didn't take the
shots. He said that that lineup wasn't the issue with the collapse. I
don't necessarily agree with that based on what based on the idea of PJ.
Tucker's shooting. That is how I'm interpreting that. I don't want to interpret
it like that, but that's how I am interpreting it. I think I'm
not advocating for it. Hold on, there's some other quotes coming up too.
He said the spacing wasn't there, and he takes responsibility. He said,
Kawhi switched off Lebron several times late because the game plan coming in was
to switch. They started sending a second guy at Lebron, which Ty said,
you're at Lebron's mercy if you do that. Yeah. Yeah, didn't
get back in transition, didn't get organized, no more of the same things
that we've been seeing from the Clippers recently, right, Yeah, And that's
the thing is so troubling, right, Like it's just been since the All
Star break, this team has not really looked much better than a five hundred
ball club, and that is especially troubling putting the overlay on just to see
how this looks. Yeah, I mean, the switching thing is kind of
frustrating because you're like, all right, the switching thing is frustrating mm hmmmm,
because it was I mean twenty one points in the fourth is insane.
Lucas hahn Our Quasi Boss pointed out the Clippers were up nine points with nine
minutes left when Kawhi came back in and Rust and PJ went out. They
lost those nine minutes by thirteen points. Brutal. Just the late game execution.
And that's where it's like they did a great job in the first half,
right, the ball denial on Ad was phenomenal to start this game from
the Clippers for most of the game, I would say, and I would
also positive too if it wasn't for some like some solid three point shooting in
the third, Like this is another blowout for the Clippers. This is another
ugly game against a Western conference. So the Clippers also had a chance in
the third to push it to twenty points in the third, but they couldn't
hit those threes. Yeah, that was gonna that was a huge There was
like all these many little runs that happened in this game, and obviously the
giant run the Clippers were on the wrong side of. So it's just like,
yeah, I genuinely mean it when it was like everything that went right
went right at one point, and everything that went wrong also went wrong at
one point, and because you're in part down PG and Zoo, you're just
gonna lose every game where that happens. Yeah, I agree. Fuck,
that's a frustrating game. Now I'm less just outright mad now and man just
kind of like frustrated by it. Yeah. He was like, you know,
uh, Lebron explit. We played horrible and then Lebron exploded, so
it was like, yeah, he still feels good about the Clippers. He
doesn't let one loss take away from what's been built. So that's good.
We are. I mean, I don't know. Uh, I'm not feeling
super great right now. In the long term. Uh well, I guess.
I mean I hope. I hope PG can come back looking solid.
Oh great, we got the quarter, fantastic, We got the fourth quarter
in it. Yeah, I mean Norm one of five in the fourth.
Yeah, everyone other than Kawhi made water zero baskets, which is just brutal.
The Norm thing though, Like what I mean, what do you do
with that? I it's brutal. It's just that's another outlier, right like
in a game of outliers. It's like we again, we're on the wrong
end of it. It. Dan em says, how does that lineup give
give any valuable feedback on how effective the players are? I don't know if
it does. That's what happens when you're in a pinch, right, Like,
we're gonna see some dog shit lineups. And we did the game at
the wrong time when they went as poorly as they possibly could have gone.
Yes, six turnovers in the fourth quarter by the Clippers. Yeah, after
what at the half, like two two turnovers at half. We had three
turnovers in the first three minutes of the third quarter. Yeah. The starts
to both of these quarters were in the second half were absolutely dog shit hard.
The Norm played the full, both played the full fourth Harden only took
one to three. Norm went one of five, Heesh Harden with two turnovers
on the fourth One of them was that one from the baseline, which if
you saw that turnover, it was so frustrading. We thought Norm was gonna
cut or something like that. Uh, and he just threw it to the
stands. Scott Tran saying the difference was the Lakers weren't afraid to shoot the
three. Uh. Part of that was Lebron James being on a crazy heater.
Yeah, they did take double the amount of attempts though from three in
the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. And
I mean yeah, and that like when when the Lakers first took the lead
to I mean agree, jose You're right, they were kind of they were
kind of concealed. I felt like they were conceding some of the two point
shots. Oh sorry, the clips. No, the Lakers. I thought
they were like concealed, like they were conceding some of the two point shots
just to keep you know, just to keep the lead a little bit longer,
longer. Yeah, and it's a math problem, right, you know,
they took twenty three field goal attempts at the fourth We took seventeen.
Yeah, I think double the I mean double the amount of three is is
insane, absolutely like that, Like, yeah, if you're getting double up
in threes, I would assume that you're probably losing that yet unless you quadruple
up on twos. Oh yeah, just looking at the game charts here,
God, this is just we lost rebounds by three, which isn't even that
crazy, Jesse jesse Go, I think we treated Marcus Morris too harshly.
The way PJ is playing, that's great. I think he's right. Yeah,
at least pj's not playing a bunch of minutes. At least Morris would
shoot. Yeah, I guess second chance points. We just got crushed in
fourteen to seven. Transition is where things were were brutal for the Clippers.
When things were going bad. It was because the Clippers were missing threes and
then we're not able to get back on defense. And the Lakers scored in
transition the first I think the first half both teams had forty points on the
pain. Yes is crazy. Yeah, so yeah, just not good.
Wyles Johnson was some he for Lawrence Frank, Uh, Kobe Brandon, Boston,
PJ, Premium Moon, Plumbly diabat Rust at times are all unplayable.
Uh. Lawrence Frank has a roster with over half of the players who can't
play. Uh. Oh, folks, we got a special guest dropping in
do we do we? Carl Tart Carl and hear you, how are you
good? Sir? Not good? That was bad? That was bad,
man? What happened? That was bad? Dog? That was bad?
I tell you a couple of things. One of the reasons the person who's
fault is the biggest bot not playing always letting us down, constantly letting us
down, always letting us down. How dare he gets sick? He's supposed
to be taking your zinc. You're supposed to be taking your vitamin. See,
you're supposed to be eating your garlic. He's supposed to be taking your
vitamin, washing your hands, washing your hands, staying six feet apart you
in the middle of a basketball season. You're gonna just sick. You're gonna
make us trot Daniel type Daniel never rebounded in his life. Tight, You're
gonna make us trot Mason, I forgot how to play basketball. Firmly out
there. He did really let us down? Man? Who else down?
Who else is PJ? Tucker clapping up for a great take from Carl t
PJ. Tucker? Man, what you're doing fighting? Nor him on the
bench? Norm is contributing to this team? Yes? Now I love PJ.
You know he's only what two years older than me? Two three years
older than mean? Yeah, he's got the swag, swag on one hundred
thousand trillers. Sure, And yet, come on, man, I can't
hoop, you can't play, can't play, dog, can I play?
Should not play? Should not play? And yet you you fighting a dude
who is falling? You fighting the bow legged bucket. We're imploding, guys.
Yeah, it doesn't feel good right now. Man, What did you
think of that final play, Carl? Like, why, like, would
you go for the tie in that situation we had? Well, yes,
I would go for the tie, but also what it is all about trying
to go for there? Beyond that? And basketball wise, I would go
for the time. Beyond that, how about you simply just maybe get somebody
there to try and attempt an offensive rebound with that much time on the clock.
Sure, well, if you're going to tie, just get somebody there,
because, in my opinion, well, what I thought was gonna happen,
I didn't I didn't see the whole the whole floor, but in that
moment I was. I was with somebody, we were watching, and he
goes, so, what's gonna happen? Now? They double Kawhi and Harden
goes for the win, and I go, No, they're gonna double Harden.
Harden is a three point threat right now, and uh, they're gonna
leave one person on Kawhi probably be whoever their best defender is out on the
court at that moment. Cam reddish, I guess or but he wasn't gardening,
he wasn't guarding Kawhi. Uh. I think it was a little bit
early in the clock to try that. I think Kawhi could have got a
little bit closer to the basket. Yeah, tough shot, tough shot.
Uh. Do I think they would have called the foul and Lebron even if
he had fouled him, no fair is not getting calls, is not getting
calls the last couple of games. Kawhi is not getting calls, and he
especially isn't getting calls when Lebron James is playing defense on him. Sure,
because they're not gonna because Lebron fouled. Lebron committed a couple of foules during
that run that they didn't call. Uh. That's the power of that jersey
man, Lebron. Lebron never got treated, never got treated like the way
he does when he until he puts on that jersey. He So what would
you have done against him? Because his fourth quarter was obviously an outlier tonight?
Well one I was I would have told Daniel type to act like he's
in the NBA and play a little bit. What is horrible watching that?
Watching Daniel Tye stand there like this and Lebron just shoot it and feel totally
comfortable. One. I would have put Kawhi on him number one, at
least for a couple Yeah, because there's nobody else offensively. First of all,
Kawhi is not about to guard a d y. Right, there's nobody
else offensively that's gonna hurt, that's gonna kill us in that moment on that
team. Nobody else y'all can. Y'all can not y'all to. But like
the public, the larger yeah can ride the dick of Austin reads all you
want to. He's not killing us in that moment, right, is not
killing us in that moment. Cam Reddish is nothing in that moment. So
why don't we have our best defender guard their best player? Did you hear
what Tyler said? What did you say? His thing was that the plan
was to switch all night, and that's why Kawhi wasn't on him. That
was the logic which I was frustrated with by that quote. Oh, by
the way, I'm blaming Tyler for this law. I jokingly blamed Zuba,
but I am legitimately blaming Tis. The fourth was brutal and I'm blaming and
I'm blaming him for our slump since we were the one seed. Really yeah,
I think, I mean, of course we have some injury stuff.
You just don't blow a twenty one point lead in the fourth not just a
twenty one point lead, Yeah, a twenty one point lead in the fourth
quarter of a basketball game, Lebron's largest comeback ever. You just don't do
it. You just don't do that. However, for some optimism for the
people who are watching this right now, we're fresh also, we're fresh off.
That makes sense. Yeah, I'm pissedsed, I for one am pissed,
but uh, for the people who are watching this right now, I
want to add some some hope that that that I think is can go on.
We have beat the Lakers every season, all the games, and then
we go and lose in a bad fashion of the playoffs. So let them
win. They win, they win. Is this the last game of the
season series or no, we got one more? This is the this is
the last one, the last one ever. Yeah, they went they went
three one against it. Yeah, they gotta, they gotta. They got
a three one this year. Yeah. Guess what that? Guess what that
means championship, championship. We're going way further in the playoffs than that team.
Ever. We got out of all oh everything, Adam, what's going
on? Buddy? You guys got me got the gang is back together?
Yeah, we made I'm about to take calls, so I don't know how
it's gonna go. But this was a historic comeback by the Lakers. You
guys see that tweet down twenty one and fourth like it's never happened something like
that. You can't play three non shooters like that to start the fourth quarter
period for everyone complaining about lack of size and why aren't we matching up with
more bigs. This is why Mason Plumbley next to p J. Tucker,
who wouldn't shoot that three? And Russell Westbrook greenn shooters next to Norm and
hard and trying to do everything is not gonna work. And you thought you'd
get away with it. You couldn't get away with it. Even though you
were up twenty one. They just started bleeding out points and then the turnovers
came in bunches. They had seven turnovers in the fourth, They had seven
turnovers entering the fourth. They had four straight turnovers at one point. This
law should not have happened. Lebron was incredible, Like he burns you with
three pointers. Okay, but you were still up twenty one. Yeah,
you can't score sixteen points in the fourth quarter, not at all. I'll
take Lebron shooting ten three any day of the week. Yeah, of course,
if that's how you lose. We mentioned we brought this up too.
Kawhi came in, the Clippers were still up nine or whatever that was.
They lost those Adams gotta put that work in really quick. They still lost
those minutes. So it was like everything that went right in this game did
in the beginning, and then everything also went wrong right at the end.
It was rough. What do you think? What's the turnaround? Carl?
What is Tyler doing? Because we were saying we've heard the same thing every
time after these losses. Right, it's like we didn't get back in transition,
We missed threes, they didn't mentally lock in, like where do we
where do we go? Turnovers all that type of stuff. I don't know.
I don't know where we can go. I have no clue, I
got no takes. I know that I am upset, and I for one
am pissed. Are you pissed off? And you know what, I don't
normally say it this, but I for one am pissed. Will? What
are you doing? What's your what are you telling these guys before they play
the Wizards on Friday? Russell Westbrooks Bible ahead night, so he's going to
go for a triple double. Russ was also perfectly fine to kind of bat
tonight, Will, what do you what are we doing? I meant it's
a must win. I you know, at the end of the day,
you got to shake this one off, like you you have you have a
get right game against the Wizards, and then you have a like a couple
of really tough challenges in the timber Wolves and the Bucks, and like,
while this one stings, like, you gotta take the lessons learned from this
one, namely, don't put three non shooters on the floor. Uh and
and and you got and you gotta try to turn things around, man,
because you know, if they go one and two over that stretch, like
things are starting to look pretty ugly. Pretty well, we're moving down the
West is too tight right now? Too? Yeah, Like it is as
as I like to call it as whole tight man, the Wall the West
is none as whole. This is where we're at right now. We screened
to share on this pod. Now, Carl, we've moved up to bigger
and better things. This is what we're looking at here for the Old West
Clippers are four games out of first. First number one seed is not going
to happen. That's not going to happen. The only the only, the
only one that's gonna happen for is the Thunder. Yeah. Maybe, how
have they played? How the Nuggets played so many more games than us?
I don't know. The Lakers have played more games too, because we were
playing all of our games in March, Carl. Yeah, we played seventeen
games in March. For those of you, they're all against they're all just
constantly against the Celtics and the Yeah, we play the Bucks on the Timberwolves
twenty six times. But no, the schedule is getting rough too. The
schedule gets to a point we're really kind of running into a buzz saw coming
up here. We got after this Wizard's game, Timberwolves, Bucks back to
back Houston for three and four, So it's tough. It's gonna be difficult,
Carl. Do you think they finished in the fourth series and they slipping
down the five. I think I think we could still finish in the four.
Okay, I think we match up well against Phoenix, which is good
if they stay in the five, four or five game. I wouldn't hate
a first round series against Phoenix. Bro, It's probably better than some of
the matchups, to be honest with you, Eh, the Pels or the
MAVs or the King or the Thunder. Give me the Kings first round.
If that's that's possible, that's very possible. Right now, Clippers stay up
four, the Kings are one game out of the fifth seed. Clippers,
Kings, sign me up for that all day. It will be difficult,
but not as difficult as Suns, Pels or MAVs. No, I don't
want the Pelicans in the first round. I don't want. I don't want
the Pelicans. Just have our card man, Yeah, biggest team. They
just know how to beat us. If the healthy Brandon Ingram goes off against
US, I'm like, bro, why do you play so well against US?
I mean, the Lakers are the ones that fucking didn't believe them.
Yeah, we're just here. No, it's just like such a physical series
too. Like that. I mean, like having to get through that just
to get to the second round would be that's that's that's a tough road to
he Manuel. I like what Manuel says here. I feel like ever since
the media started hyping us up almost every day, that's when we started falling
apart. And I guarantee you tomorrow's media is gonna roast the ship out of
us. We're getting We deserve it. Everybody, wrap yourselves in a lumina
foil, put some vegetables around you, because we getting cooked. We deserve
it. We definitely deserve it. We definitely deserve to get cooked. Uh.
I will say that we thrive because of because of Like this is just
opinion, of course, but I feel like our team thrives in nobody believing
in us and and us being buried. Get us off the radar, off
the radar, Yeah, get us in the shadows. We got a shadow
like team. I've been pissed off this season because people, you know,
we started off and oh and six with with James Harden one and six or
something like that. Uh, and everybody was like, I knew it was
gonna fail. And then we started cooking, and everybody goes well, of
course that's what they're supposed to do. What you like, what what are
we supposed to do? I thought it was going to fail. Yeah,
we're supposed to win and lose. So ly lost tonight, disgusting loss.
Always things more when it's against those guys, I will say, I'm not
afraid of that team at all in the playoff series, and they're gonna lose
in the first round. Thirty nine year old Lebron James being your best player,
belly you out of between one point leaders, ridiculous, nasty work.
It was gross. It was a grease seat. Yeah. How crazy is
it that he's the point at forty years old? Bro? What I love
the guy, he's my goal, but he like that shit his nuts.
That doesn't make any sense. Any wants some X contract. He deserves it.
Look at the team. When he turns forty two, you're gonna be
paying him sixty three million dollars. I don't give a shit what they paying,
but yeah, thank the team. Let him be a forty two year
old team. Yeah, so Jose saying this, The bench does need work,
Carl. We were talking about this in terms of actual playoff rotation.
Guys on the clips. There's like seven guys. You got the starting five,
and then you got norm and a mirror and then and barely a mirror
is dipping a toe in that shit. He has been very good this season,
but there are times where he disappears. Still. Yeah, but he's
he's in the bottom of But you yeah, like you trust, you trust
him to soak up some minutes over Like, who would you put over him?
Yeah, uh, nobody. I think I would like to petition that
they let me play instead of PJ. Tucker. I'd be fine with that.
Yeah, it's that you would. You would, you would bring the
age of the roster down, which that's true. We're about the same size,
we got the same haircut, same mobility, same mobility. I would,
I I would, and I will. I will say this to you.
I don't have to believe it. I would guarantee that I would make
more three point baskets than he would in the game. Guarantee. Will I
be able to guard anybody? Absolutely not. But if you let me,
if you leave me open in the corner, I would knock one down.
Sure, I got proof of myself and continue I got it's gonna leave me.
They're gonna leave me wide open and be like, oh ship, we
actually have to put somebody on this, but you're gonna make it. They're
gonna do that. Yeah, like this got for real. Hey, I
got footage of me. We can put it on the on the clips and
DIBs Twitter. I got footage of me. I got footage of me knocking
down three straight at the Clippers practice facility. I know you you're staying ready,
You're staying on as big big land was there big Lands. I mean,
shout out to Vlad Clipper Vlad, I hope you're doing well. Jeremy
Barman wants to know how much you can bench. We had this discussion earlier.
We think that the only NBA player I can't out bench any NBA player.
We think the only NBA player that will can out bench is Chet Holmgren.
Yeah. What NBA player do you think you could out bench? You
can probably lie probably all of them. Uh, I would say, I
would say a majority. I think I can pitch three thirty five Okay,
damn yeah that's probably. I mean, yeah, what is PJ bench?
PJ probably can't hit three thirty five people something like that, or he is
he like is PJ like a generous sixty five six six, he's five.
He's listed at sixty five. Yeah, me and PJ same. Yeah,
I probably got PJ by like thirty pounds though. Yeah, he is stilling
very good shape, and I mean, hey, he got that right?
Is that interview where he was just like rambling about playing time At the end
he was like, my advice to anyone younger stay in shape. And it's
like that's pretty good advice. Yeah, yeah, I should have. I
should have took that advice years ago. But I started doing comedy. But
if you were getting that PJ money just to work out, imagine where you'd
be right now. Oh dude, I mean look already I already work out
for free. I pay to work out. Uh, he says Luise.
Lema says bro lying all right, Louise, thank you. I think.
I mean you know what, Luise, you caught me. Bro. If
there's one place I gotta lie is for how many people playing here? Eighty
four right now? For the eighty four guys in his clips and dips right
now? What? Oh? Positive tonight Terrence man, he was good tonight.
Terrence is coming along and he's doing great. Did anybody go see him
at the grove if you had, I don't thought I was working. Did
anybody in the chat going seem at the grove? I got my hoodie and
my T shirt today I got, I got, I got my crew neck
order that should be here in a couple. Yeah, were you went the
growth Clow? I didn't. I didn't make it to the girl because I
didn't know about it. They didn't promote that shit at all. I would
have went. Also, let me ask you, this is it weird if
I had a gone because I'm like seven years older than T Man. My
man, you think you could sign this for me? So y'all know that
the one authentic jersey I have, the one like gameplay is T Man.
So I sat courtside in my friend Phil Lord's seats one game, and I
was wearing a T Man. I told Jo all about this before when I
said I was going, and T Man came over and fistbamed me. And
this is a three sixty from when one eighty from when I saw him at
Creation Juice and I was like T Man, he like looked at me like
I was a fudging asshole. He looked at me, He looked at me
like probably the same expression that Luis had when I said I bench pressed three
thirty. Yeah, I don't think it would have been weird if you would
have went to the grove today. I think had you been wearing his jersey,
that would have maybe been a little Well. The thing is, I
would have taken it for him to sign. That's different wearing it, like
can you sign? That would be bad. But like he's not doing he's
not doing a groupie style. I mean that's what. Yeah, it's so
hard as we get older and as uh as as we get older. And
I was going, okay, so Luis uh the one person in this chat
who don't believe in me. I was I was going to buy so you
know how they do that that, you know how they do that NBA auction
thing like gameplay stuff. Yeah, Zu Box jersey was two forty like a
gameplay jersey. But I was like, if I were if I wear Zoo
Box jersey to the game, it's gonna be a jersey dress. I'm gonna
look like a two thousand and three video groups like yeah, yeah, he's
too tall. But I guess I could have got that frame, but I
don't want to non signed Zoo box frame Jersey. You're like, Oh,
that'd be the biggest one eighty for you, Carl, I kind of love
that. Yeah, Like I actually half Croatian, So I do have I
have a signed from Jersey. I got a Blake Uh yeah, he signed
it. It was gifted to me, which was very nice. Uh.
For those of you who don't know, I worked on White Man Can't Jump
as a script punch up artist. Uh So if you thought the movie wasn't
funny, you're welcome. Louise probably doesn't. Louise definitely did not like the
movie. Uh, do you want Blake back? Carl? You know what,
I think it would be good karma for us this season, especially the
way we're fucking slumping right now. Do you like the CARBA player? You
think he's in the locker room at this point of his career, Dude,
I think he would crush and I think I think he definitely be better than
PJ. Tucker. Gotta be better than gotta be better. Yeah, I
don't know, this one's tough. Are you going to the game with credit,
Carl? No, I don't have tickets into the tenth Damn Russell Westbrook
bobblehead of him not in a Clippers jersey. Oh him and his Kim Jong
owns. Yeah, that's kind of hard to hang on. Lie. I
get for a bibble ahead. Yeah. If I was another bibblehead and I
saw that fit, I would go I wish I had that fit. Yeah,
all right, well fellow, getting out of here. I got a
dip. I got thanks for joining as always, Carl, I love it.
I love it. I'll text you guys. Uh, person who's calling?
Who's calling Adam all tonight? I think it's me? Yeah, I
want to call it. I want to call him, talk some ship.
Really, call in dude. We'll tell me hard. I always get scared,
but call in Colin. He can't dunk on you just talk louder.
Tell him how much you can bene he can't help bench you can. I
could bend three of Adam. Uh, we can post. We can post
some videos and me benching on clips. Yeah, that's the contact we need.
That's yeah, And Luis, I'm gonna come clean, bro, I'm
gonna come clean. I hit one rep of three thirty five and it was
thirty My my trainer did have to help me up, but I didn't.
But I that's the one Rep. Max. That's the one. Rep Max.
I can I do five by five with three fifteen? Hey, hain't
not'sing to sneezeup. That's wonderful. That's I'm sorry. I lied to you,
Luise. I know you caught me being a fraud. I'm a fraud.
I'm a failure. All right, Thanks for coming, Vie Carl later,
y'all love you both, Love you? So what, so what how
do we go from here? We got about ten minutes before we end this
thing. Are we gonna try and drum up positives? I mean, I
like the dude at the end of it, at the end of the at
the end of the day, like this actual starting five is championship caliber team.
The rest very question so much. If you have that five though,
right, If you have that five, you have Norman Powell, who you
absolutely can trust as a six man offensively? Will he get gamed out in
playoff scenarios? Defensively? Sure'll try in some situations. In some situations,
for sure. You got a mere coffee. That that's a boost for sure?
Is that seven enough to win you sixteen games? Russ will play too.
Russ will play too. Russ will play Russ is not going to not
play in the playoffs, but at this like at the same time, it
is still only March, right, like there is still time to hit another
peak that we saw, like like what we saw prior to the All Star
break, right, they do have plenty of chances to rattle off some wins,
yes in March. Yeah, I like this thing from Chulck Sampson.
We need championship habits right now. I agree. I agree, yeah,
and that is that's been the more so, like that is the one thing
that hurts a little bit less about this game is I think that it's so
much worse when when everyone is there and the team hasn't looked good like that,
that to me is a lot more damning that Like that says a lot
more about this team, this one. I mean, while it hurts and
there's no reason to ever cough up a twenty one point lead in the fourth,
we were down two of five starters, we were down forty percent of
our starters. I mean still not again, not making excuses. Terrible loss,
terrible process, looked bad, looks bad. I do the championship habits
thing is very real, but also how can you build championship habits with some
of these rotations and some of these bench players. Bro, I feel what,
like, what are you doing? You shifted gear so hard? No,
but I'm just I'm just saying like I like I said, I trust
seven of these guys. Beyond that, No, I don't What do you
want me to do? Jeremy Mormon to answer your question real quick, it
is a player option. Yeah, for Russell Westbrook, I have a feeling
he will opt into it. Mm hmm. Yeah. Is he gonna get
a bigger contract than five million dollars next year? I mean I think maybe
someone would toss the middle level at him. I don't know. I don't
know. But what do you want to put you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, it depends chery. I don't know. Jeremy, I
couldn't agree more with this sentiment right here. Yeah, I I so to
go to connect the Chunk Sampson who again wonderful name, uh and the will
Updyke point also a good name. Championship habits really need to start with Kawhi
putting guys in championship positions to win. Yeah, that's putting Russ out there
with four shooters. That's putting everyone who was the three guys of RUSS,
PJ, and Pumbley all need to be around at least three shooters and in
most cases four. Yeah, and so when PG and Zoo we are back,
we have to hope that we start to see championship level rotations, which
is gonna be difficult to balance with how many games we have in March.
I think part of that is too, though, Like tylu is really trying
to balance the longevity of these guys with the amount of games that both you
know, I think that personally they've set for themselves to play. We're seeing
it stack up with PG, right like, we're seeing it stack up and
like I mean, in game rest if you want to call it that or
like however he runs the run rotations to be as such, it like is
very much a real thing, and you do have to think about the longevity.
And while there's no reason for this team to fall below a four seed,
as long as they can hang in right there, I'm still feeling pretty
good. Yeah, I'm gonna see it's difficult as and I mean, and
honestly, it honestly helps us out a little bit too. If if we're
like to stay out of the same bracket as the Nuggets. Yeah. I
mean, honestly, at this point, I'm just let's just I want to
see who we're matching up with it the five seed, because I think we're
gonna stay at the four. I think it's difficult because we do focus so
much on this team on a daily basis that I'm still trying to give myself
kind of a runway to really start judging them in terms of, like,
I know they need to be locked in. I'm not saying anything like yeah,
oh sure, yeah, but at the same time, we still want
them to be playing like it starts again. Season starts Friday, right,
we need we need the ship to be looking on point in about six game
games or I am going to be sounding legit alarm bells in six games,
So including this next three, which is a back to back against the Timberwolves
and the Bucks and then and then the Rocket. But I mean, like
that's that's gonna be difficult. They're probably gonna lose both those games, would
be my guess, with how they're playing right now, with the way they've
looked so far, that it would be my assumption specifically just that back to
back after that, I don't know, we'll see where we're at. But
I mean again, Terrence Man's on the upswing, which is incredibly crucial for
the Clippers team. If you look at their rotation, Kawhi Leonard was phenomenal
tonight twenty six, seven and six, just one turnover, some questionable rotations,
absolutely some interesting an outlier game from Lebron. It hurts. Not gonna
sit here and pretend like this loss doesn't hurt. No, it hurts.
It is also embarrassing. It's hurting. But that's just the way she goes
sometimes. For the for the trailer park boys fans out there, buy out
market, who knows no idea, PJ. Let's let's sign auto. Yeah,
I'm sure guys are the root for an auto. I'm sure guys are
just kind of weighing their options, you know, because I'm I'm like Auto.
I'm sure he is feeling like fielding a ton of calls and there's a
ton I mean, like, I just think there's a bunch of contenders that
on a like on a man you're cutting? Yeah, who do you like?
Josh definitely cut somebody? Yeah, Mike Mascala, Yeah, your name
for the content. It's kind of funny. Cut Josh Primo sign, Mike
Miscala, he'll shoot more than Tucker. Yeah, I'm name on it,
big part of Clippers history. Help us out on the pitch. He did
help. He has a Clipper legend, legend. All right, we should
probably get out of here. Thanks to everyone who is hanging out. Yeah,
thanks, Sorry, it was a sading. I thought this was gonna
be a fun one, not our fault. Honestly, I'm not gonna take
any blame for it being kind of a sad hang. It's the Clippers fault.
Thank you to Carl Tart. We're gonna put this on the live over
on our channel, which is at Clippers Podcast subscribe. We do a podcast
as well in audio form. This one won't be on there. And yeah,
everyone trying try and feel somewhat optimistic. Oh, that's not what I
meant to put up there, No problem, Scott, Like Carl said,
we meet the Lakers every time. If that means we lose a series this
year, chips or reverse chinks, he believes it. Let's go. Yeah,
I love it. I love it. It's gonna be okay. And
yeah, well we'll talk to everyone maybe on the radio later and we'll have
a full pod tomorrow or something. I don't know. We'll get it figured
it out. Bye everybody. Hope you have a good night.