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Hello, and welcome to Open Mind
UFO radio show. I am your host,

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Alejandro Rojas, and I am here
with Senior Jason McClellan. That's right

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you are. How you doing,
Jason? I'm fantastic, Alejandro. How

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are you today? Not too bad
for a Monday? Excellent hot Monday out

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here in Senni, Phoenix. We're
used to it. I know the East

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coast is getting lots of rain,
but tough cookie, We've got sunshine,

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all right. So we've had a
lot of busyness going on. And I

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guess I'll first tell you about our
guest for today, and that is James

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Gilliland. So he runs what is
called the E SETI Ranch. I think

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that gets people get confused. There's
ce SETI, there SETI, and there's

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SETI, and SETI is a scientific
group. Ce SETI is Doctor Greer's group,

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and SETI is rammed by James Gilliland, and it stands for Enlightened Contact

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with Extraterrestrial Intelligence. He runs the
E SETI Ranch in at Mount Adams in

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Washington, where there's it's always been
a hot spot for different paranormal stuff and

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UFOs and a lot of people who
go out there see UFOs, including some

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TV shows that you've probably seen.
They go out there and have sightings that

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are very interesting. He's got an
interesting clip on the website actually where even

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Fox News went out there and recorded
something so very interesting. Ranch. So

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we talked to him about why there
are so many sightings out there, what

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he thinks they are, and he
has some very interesting answers. So I

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found to be a really nice guy. So it's gonna be great to talk

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to him. But before we get
into that, Jason and I of course

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like to talk about some news of
the week, so we both share an

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article. But I think it's been
a while, It's been like a couple

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of weeks. So I'm going to
talk about two. You're such a cheater,

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cheater, I'll want to do that. I'm just going to talk about

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one. Okay, should we do
yours first? Yeah? Why don't we

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not? That out? All?
Right? Well, Aleandro, I'm going

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to talk about a story here and
it continually develops. This is fascinating and

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it grinds my gears. This one
really gets me worked up. So I'll

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start off. So many of you
may remember we reported last year, the

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end of last year about the Indian
Army. People in the Indian Army reporting

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hundreds of UFOs along the Indian Chinese
border and the military actively investigated these things,

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couldn't determine what they were. Where
people from scientists and astronomers there investigated

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these objects saw them for themselves and
couldn't determine what they're what they were.

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Then, shortly after we heard about
that, there were reports by Indian media

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saying that scientists suspected the UFOs were
some Chinese lanterns launched by the Chinese Army

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as a part of a psychological operation
psychological warfare to freak out people in India.

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And after that report came out,
the news kind of died down because

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media outlets accepted that explanation and said, oh, Chinese lanterns. Case closed.

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But then just last week the Telegraph
published an article saying that those UFOs

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still had the experts baffled, and
people from the Indian Institute of Astrophysics stated

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to the paper that the UFOs were
still a mystery. They were still investigating

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them and they couldn't say what the
objects were. Now fast forward to today,

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just a week later, and now
there's yet another story coming out saying

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that scientists from the Indian Institute of
Astrophysics say that they were simply planets that

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people were seeing. They're saying that
these hundreds of UFOs seen by Militi Harry

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people, investigated by astronomers from these
very institutions were simply Jupiter and Venus.

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And this is being reported by many
media outlets. So, Alejandro, I'm

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very shocked by the back and forth
with the reports coming out about this story,

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and I'm very curious as to what
the actual truth is because we're hearing

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so many conflicting reports about the duration
of time these objects are in the sky.

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You know, the ones reporting that
these were simply Chinese lanterns were saying,

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oh, they were in the sky
for you know, ten minutes or

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whatever, whereas the initial reports from
the military witness reports were saying these objects

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were in this guy for hours.
So and now we have astronomers, and

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I will point out again I just
mentioned it, but the initial investigation,

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when the astronomers from the observatory there
investigated these things, they specifically ruled out

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planets and other celestial bodies. Now
we have other astronomers saying, oh,

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yeah, Jupiter and Venus. Yeah, I thought you might talk about this

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one. And the problem though,
I think is I think that it sounds

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like something mundane although they can't figure
out. They haven't figured out what just

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because the movements don't seem very exciting. And the other problem though, is

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that they will not because China keeps
refusing, we don't have anything to do

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with it, so they rule that
out. And they aren't looking at the

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possibility of drones or these other things
with China because China says it's not us.

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But how can you trust China.
You can't trust any military, so

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it could be something military from the
Chinese that makes the most sense actually,

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right, And those reports have come
out too, saying that officials investigating the

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case ruled out Chinese drones. I
don't know how they would concretely rule them

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out when they people don't know what
they are well, And it sounded like

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they said because the Chinese said they
wasn't them, so they they're worked for

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it, right, But you know, I mean it based on the description,

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it could it sounds like it could
be something mundane. You know,

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they rise and hover along the horizon
for around three or four hours before fading

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from sight. But you know,
when you have astronomers from the observatory they're

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investigating seeing these things. I mean, you would think they would know what

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Jupiter looks like, but I don't
know. And it could be because it

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doesn't seem like they're taking they're making
up. The media is making a big

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deal out of it, and it
is kind of interesting because you know,

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they're unidentified, but it sounds like
they're kind of blase about it, like

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you know, their first report probably
doesn't seem like really hardcore investigation, although

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lately it seems like they're looking closer
than they did before. But again,

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you know, the reports continue to
change. I mean, we initially heard

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that they were looking into it,
then we heard that they just shugged their

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shoulders and they said it's Chinese lanterns, and we hear they're looking they're still

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looking into it. Again, it's
a mystery and they're very interested in it.

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Then just a week later we hear
just planets. Yeah, well,

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a lot of people putting their two
cents in there, and really, in

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the end though they're still unidentified.
Yes, sir, that is the moral

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of the story. Bump bump bomb, all right, Alejandro, I know

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you've got to to get to.
So let's get to your first story.

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Oh and I was going to say, I'm sure it's not the last we've

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heard of this story. Well,
I'm glad that we continue hearing about it.

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I thought once the story came out
about oh, it's Chinese lanterns,

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it would be dead. We wouldn't
hear any more about it, which was

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the case for a while, but
it emerged again and I'm glad to hear

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it because it's a fascinating case.
Right. So, we've got a lot

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of cool stuff on the website,
including the Indian story. But one of

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the stories that got me super excited
last week was this planet hunting scientist.

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And this guy is not just a
planet hunter, he's like pretty much the

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most famous one. He found the
majority of exoplanets using kepler, So he's

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found most of them, and now
he's like, I want to look for

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aliens, for a giant spaceships,
and for a laser based internet in space

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used by extraterrestrials. So here's the
idea. With the kepler. They look

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at a star and then when the
star fades in and out, they figure

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there's a planet going in front.
And so they studied that to figure out

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how many planets are there. He
figures that if you look at it and

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there's irregular dimming, that perhaps then
that's a large extraterrestrial ship. And instead

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of looking for new information, he
says, we've already got enough data that

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we haven't come through from the kepler, which isn't working anymore by the way,

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that we're going to look at data
information and try to find some information

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in there. And then that if
he kind of feels like SETI is outdated

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and that they're looking for the the
analog signals and any extraterrestrial civilization that is

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that somewhat advanced is going to be
using a more advanced method of communication.

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And he lasers. Yeah, a
laser internet, so he's looking for He

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says it should be easy to tell
because it would be a really bright light,

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like a laser headed towards us.
I guess that would be them trying

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to say, hey, we're sending
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something that that's going to look for. So that's really cool. I think

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that this guy's so into looking at
for ET that he's starting to do this

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and he's gotten a grant to do
this work. Yeah, it's really awesome

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stuff, So especially from such a
prominent scientists. Yeah, and you know,

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I mean, look how much attention
Kepler gets and you've got this this

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guy who's identified the planets based on
Kepler data. I think it's fantastic that

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he's he's the one doing this,
and poor Kepler. They're trying to bring

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it back online. I hope they
do, because Kepler's done so awesome stuff

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for us. So yeah, poor
Kepler, hang in there, Kepler.

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Boo boop. Did you hear that? I just heard Kepler response, that's

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crazy, that's sweet. He sounded
a little up beat, didn't he.

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Yeah he did. He's had it. He's doing better, so he'd be

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more like a said or two.
Yeah right, that would be scary,

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but luckily he's hand it happy.
Yes. So the other I just wanted

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to talk about we posted late last
week was Movefon's best UFO video case of

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twenty twelve. While we were there
at the Muffon Symposium, they handed the

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press a their top ten sightings as
determined by their Science Review Board, so

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it had some information, but I
did some digging to find out some more

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about it, and we posted that
video and I think it is very intriguing.

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They find that this, you know, you see this round object.

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And this was a lady in Georgia
who during the days saw this or daughter

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pointed it out. She was with
her kids and a friend. Two or

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three different cell phones got videos of
it, and it's like this round thing

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floating. But it looks like it
does have lights on the perimeter because the

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perimeter is kind of shining. And
I think it's a pretty cool video.

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What do you think? Do you
think it could possibly be a kite?

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No, I don't think it's a
kite, but I think it could be

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because especially because there's no string kites. I've never seen the kite where you

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couldn't see the string. The other
thing is it moved up. According to

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them, it was moving towards them
and up. Now it could be a

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balloon. It could be some kind
of mile our balloon, and that the

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flashing light effect is light the sun
reflecting off the balloon. That's if it's

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not something strange or I suspect that
could be what it is. That's my

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best guess. Yeah, it definitely
is an interesting, interesting video. Yeah,

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I'm not sure what to make of
it. Yeah, hosted. That

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video on the Science review board that
they've just put together is pretty exciting too

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because it's lots of engineers and scientists
that I've worked with, like NASA,

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Lackheed, Martin, Orthrope, Bruman
and a bunch of things. So hopefully

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looking forward to more cool stuff.
And then we do have the other ten

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cases. None of them had pictures
or video like this one, but we'll

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post those top ten cases here this
week so people can see what the scient

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review boards were, the good cases. It's exciting stuff. I'm glad they've

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got this board, and you know
their intention is to get back to focusing

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on science. That's what movie's all
about. So hopefully we'll see some good

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things from them. Yeah, what
do you think of this symposium? Symposium

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was good, man, I was
glad it was in Vegas. That was

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nice and seemed to get a decent
turnout and the lineup of speakers was good

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again focusing on science. And you
know me, I'm a big fan of

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focusing on science when it comes to
this field. That's right, Science is

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cool. We like to be blinded
with science. Oh, I don't know,

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I want to be blinded. Well, it's supposed to be a good

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thing according to that song in the
eighties. Okay, well, songs from

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the eighties can't be wrong, right, Well, thank you Jason for joining

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us for the newest portion of Open
Mind UFO Radio. It has been my

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absolute pleasure, and I will remind
people you just pointed out some great content

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we put up recently on our YouTube
channel, and we're putting up content more

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regularly now, so if you are
not subscribed to the YouTube channel, do

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that as a YouTube dot com slash
open minds TV, and we put up

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all sorts of good stuff there,
including spacing out with you and Maureen and

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you guys have a last episode is
about the symposium, so people can find

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out more about it there too.
Huh, that is correct. We did

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shoot some stuff at the symposium,
gave a nice little recap there, so

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do check that out as well as
all our their videos. Movie excellente Yes,

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all right, so let's go ahead
and talk to mister James Gilliland.

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I'm very excited to have on the
show today. James Gilliland. Hello,

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James, Oh, thanks for having
me on the show. Yeah, thanks

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for joining us. I guess to
start off, it's an exciting topic people

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are always excited about the East Seti
Ranch, But maybe a little bit about

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your background and how you came about
acquiring the ranch. Yeah, that's a

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long story. I'll try to shorten
it up a bit, but we got

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lots of time. Yeah, basically, it's I know a lot a lot

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of youufologists have a hard problem with
this, but it was more of a

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spiritual experience and awakening, and it
came after a near death experience. I

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kept having visions after a drowning,
over and over of the ranch, and

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I saw a river and the mountain
mount Adams in and uh, and then

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a little mountain behind it, and
I kept seeing the words little mountain road,

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which made no sense whatsoever because there
there was our little mountain. I

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didn't see road on it, but
in the vision because there's this massive mountain,

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and I kept couldn't understand why they
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and and then down the road.
I found out why because the ranch is

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actually on little mountain Road. But
after that vision kept reoccurring, I grabbed

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a map of the United States,
and I used some forms of divination that

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I've been taught to actually nail down
the ranch and when I when I got

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here to the ranch, through a
series of synchronistic events, I ended up

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writing exactly on the spot that I
marked on the map. Even even though

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I threw the map in my closet
and forgot about it, I ended up

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here anyway. Wow, where were
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in Santa Cruz in northern California.
Mm hmm, okay, so that's quite

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a difference, were you, I
mean, ever even thinking of moving to

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Washington. Well, I kept getting
inner guidance that I really needed to make

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something bigger because I had a house
there in Santa Cruz and it was full,

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and we were teaching deep meditation techniques, intersensitivity training, teaching people how

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to you know, get into the
higher self, you know, the higher

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aspects of self and things like that, and I kept getting a message that

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it was time to build a template
of a very spiritual community that lives in

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harmony with each other in nature,
you know, and covers you know,

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body minded, spirit, all aspects, and trying to create a template where

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people could come and see a different
way of living, you know, to

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to kind of get humanity off this
self destructive program it's on. So in

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Santa Cruz. You already kind of
had, You were already teaching meditation and

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these sort of things prior to moving
to Washington. Yeah, so I was

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very involved in it. I had
the near death experience when I was down

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south in Orange County and I was
actually doing commercial real estate and have my

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own office and people working for me
and was very successful. But after the

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drowning, I had a big wake
up call and I came back ultra sensitive

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and I could see everything for what
it was and I just had to get

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out of that environment. So I
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up in the Redwoods, just to
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how far after that was it that
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was Listen, I've been here twenty
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that I moved here, and I
think I was in Santa Cruz for a

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little over six years now. When
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were you already into that topic before
moving out there? You know, not

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really As a kid, I was
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High Desert, and we saw things
all the time, and we were right

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next door to Round half ring in
that group Otis car you know, that

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were building their own leofos and flying
around. So I was exposed to it

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at an early age, but you
know I wasn't really I just accepted it,

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you know. I saw things that
because sleeping outside, because the desert

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it's really hot, you know,
and a lot of times we just throw

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a sleeping bag outside on the lawn
and watched the sky when we were kids,

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and we had all kinds of things
flying over that nobody could explain,

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you know, doing zig zag patterns, turning bright blue, flashing and then

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taking off and and we don't have
anything that can fly like that. And

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that was you know, that was
back in the fifties, late fifties,

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and so you were seeing sightings in
the desert as a kid. But I

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mean, are the sightings where you
are now and even much more numerous than

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them back then. Oh yeah,
yeah, it's because I opened up to

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it and rose to the occasion and
took a very spiritual approach to the matter.

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We've had more success success here than
almost anybody. I mean, this

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is a hot spot now for UFOs, but it has a long history.

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The Native American lore goes back to
the inhabitants underneath the mountain and some very

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advanced beings there, and they took
their sick and wounded up to the mountain

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and they took them in and he
healed them and brought them out in just

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days, you know, with broken
bones and things like that. So there's

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a long history of that. Kenneth
Arnold actually lost sight of the ships when

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they landed on the western slopes of
Mount Adams. That's in his in his

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information. And then doctor Jalen Heinek, all of these major i think Greg

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Long built, Local, David Acres, all of these people have done investigations

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up here with these intelligent lights to
keep appearing. And and you know,

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we're also having metallic ships. We're
having everything here. It's pretty crazy.

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We're having solid metallic ships, we're
getting photographs of We're having etheric ships and

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massive light ships and and triangles,
giant cylinders, even pyramid shape ships just

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like every color that we seem to
be photographing here. So it's you know,

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it's quite an event that's unfolding here. And so it's a variety of

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different types of ships. Do you
who do you feel is any ships?

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What do you think is going on
there. You know, most people couldn't

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really handle that answer unless they did
some real serious research because there's so many

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different groups that have ships that have
this technology. Our ancient ancestors have this

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technology, and it's all throughout the
Vedic scriptures, and it's even in the

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Bible and other ancient texts. The
via Amanas, you know, the Atlantis,

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Lantians and Lemrians they had this technology
and they went inward after the floods

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and joined some other groups, you
know, living underground in facilities, and

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some are coming from distant systems,
you know, like the Plates, the

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Irion system, the you know near
Sirius and those areas. So and it's

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also interdimensional. It's not just this
dimension that's going on. So it's quite

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a big picture. The sad thing
is is, you know, I'm sure

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you've seen it in the UFO community. It's so competitive and split up.

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And you know, I gave a
lecture there a long time ago at the

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Congress and I got a standing innovation
and I told people the only way we're

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ever going to get the truth out
on this enigma is for everybody to put

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their information on the table and share, you know, because it's all the

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above. It's not just one thing, but everybody's trying to fight for their

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reality of their truth. You know. One one group will say it's it's

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just nuts and bolts, you know. Another group will say it's the Germans,

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you know, who back engineered this
stuff a long time ago, flying

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in from the North Pole or whatever. And then you've got other groups saying,

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oh, it's just the Grays.
They are here to abduct people,

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you know, and you know,
do genetic experiments. And then you have

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other groups that say it's all benevolent. You know, it's all it's all

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positive, it's all benevolent, and
the real box you want to check is

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all the above, because it's all
going on. H Yeah, I so

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agree with you there. Because it's
like people seem to like they have to

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know the answers for some reason,
and they'll attach to an answer and then

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to stick to that worldview so tightly
that they really close themselves off. They

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become closed minded, they close themselves
off to other ideas or possibilities. Yeah,

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it becomes a religion basically. And
it's sad because you really have to

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transcend all cultural and religious beliefs to
understand this phenomenon and start reading all the

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ancient texts and do the research,
you know, with an open mind,

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and then you're going to start figuring
out what's been going on for ever since.

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I mean, it's been going on
for six hundred and fifty million years,

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believe it or not. And that
area there, So it sounds like

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you feel it's lots of different types
of phenomena that are going on there.

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Why they're at Mount Adams, do
you think, Well, there's a couple

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of things going on. One is
they've always been here and there's a very

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well documented history of that. The
other thing is they're based underneath the mountain

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and actually we're sitting right on top
of them. Ground penetrating radar has research

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has been done here, and we're
sitting on just a massive, massive ca

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you know that that they're flying around
underneath us. And I had some people

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up here that had some pretty interesting
equipment and they could measure any anomalies,

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you know, in the field,
any movement in the magnetic fields above and

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below on all around us with these
triangulating antennas, and they started getting movement

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underneath us, moving around underneath us. So it's quite interesting. But We've

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had a lot of pretty extreme technology
come to the ranch to measure these anomalies,

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not just the the craft, but
the beings that are the interdimensional beings

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that are appearing here, and each
time they walk away just shocked, you

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know, when they get the results
back. So do you think that what

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is underground? I mean, is
that kind of do you feel that's kind

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of a base or do you think
that there's a civilization under there. Oh,

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it's a whole civilization. And it's
almost like an intergalactic airport. And

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we've seen open on that mountain,
like huge light doors and things coming in

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and out of it. We have
it on film. But what's weird is

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if you go up to that area, you'll see just a huge wall like

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a lava cliff, you know,
where these doors are opening. There's nothing

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there that would indicate, you know, you know, there's any kind of

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a base or anything else. And
there's two or three spots on the mountain,

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and there's one spot where there is
a huge cave and we see a

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lot of anomalous lights up there,
and in front of the cave, it

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looks like a Buddha statue is carved
out of the basalt. So it's and

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it's only open for maybe maybe three
weeks out of the year that cave has

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opened. The rest time it's completely
covered with snow. Wow. So I

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guess before we go further, because
I love these ideas, and I'm sure

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a lot of people are thinking.
Maybe some people are thinking these are kind

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of some pretty French ideas, but
I guess to establish that for people who

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aren't aware. I mean, Mount
Adams has a lot of sightings, and

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you've got a lot of great videos, for instance, on your site,

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on some of the television shows that
have gone out there, and it seems

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like most of them, if not
all, have kind of a spectacular sighting

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of their own. Yes, basically, yeah, we've had ABC out here,

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Fox News, we even had Jay
Lenos and a crew out here,

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but he canned it, you know, because I think they were going to

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make a joke out of it.
And the problem was the UFOs showed up

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and they split off in two different
directions, came right out each other,

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and then went off, you know, like they were going one was coming

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in from the north and one come
from the south, and they split off

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going east and west, and they
got some amazing footage, you know,

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but they canned it. You know, we never heard anything about it,

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but you know, Robbie Williams was
out here, Danny Dyer did a special

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out here. Paranormal State came out
and we told them exactly when and where

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these ships would appear, and they
had their cameras ready and they got some

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beautiful ships coming in low and powering
up and flying tree top level and then

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flying around the mountain. So we've
proven redundantly that there's not only a lot

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of activity up here, but it's
intelligent and that we're having telepathic contact just

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due to the nature of having everything
ready to go and the ships showing up

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exactly when and where we said they
would. And their psychic chip Coffee was

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there too, and they brought him
in blind. They didn't tell him anything,

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and he came on the land and
he started saying, they're here.

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And they said who's here and he
said them and you know, and they

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said, who's them? And he
said, the extraterrestrials are here. And

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he said, look the look to
the west or no, at the east

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at ten o'clock in the morning,
I'm blown here at ten o'clock at night,

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look to the east and you'll see
the ships. And then so they

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interviewed me, and I told them
the exact same thing randomly because we were

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separate, you know, I had
no idea what he said. And so

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right at ten o'clock in the evening, the ships appeared right, you know,

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in the east. Little I told
him a little more north, you

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know, I have your cameras northeast, and that's exactly where they appeared,

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and they got it on films.
So you know, we've proven redundantly,

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you know, we've given exact times
and dates and where the ships are going

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to appear with the cameras rolling.
And I think that's amazing. We've been

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doing this for about twenty six years
here and it's still been highly censored,

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you know, even more so within
the UFO community. Really, yeah,

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it's amazing. So you mean like
the UFO community kind of ignores what goes

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on there, Well, the most
flat yes, a lot of you know

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certain I won't mention names because I'm
speaking at one, you know, one

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of the most major UFO stations that
covers UFOs. Uh huh, the biggest

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station won't have me on the show. And uh And I think it's amazing.

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But you know, you take the
like the all the International UFO Reporting

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Center with Peter Davenport. He's been
he has a long history of sensory and

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the activity here and and be living, you know, be living people that

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call in and say, hey,
I'm out here with thirty five people.

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We just saw an amazing ship happen, you know. And he'll say,

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well, tell me when the little
Green men show up and hang up on

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him, you know, so you
know, I could figure out why is

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this guy doing this? You know, he's sent an engineer out and to

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do an investigation on it. And
she said, look, I checked out

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all the satellite you know feeds.
These are not satellites, these are not

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space station or evastat. It's not
Genesis, it's non no known object.

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They're low, they're morphine, they're
they're making turns, they're doing things that

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there's no way that they're not any
known object. And one of them got

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really big as it came towards her
and she hit the ground. Wow,

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she hit the She scared the crap
out her actually, but uh and and

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so she wrote this all up in
report and she gave it to Peter and

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he goes well, and then so
he sends the thing out as newsletter saying

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that his engineer confirmed that we're seeing
nothing other than meteors and satellites. And

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so people are taking his word on
things. And and unfortunately between him and

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the radio show that he comes on
all the time, that group there,

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there's some major censorship happening. And
and what's really weird too, is they

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called me up to come on the
show and I was waiting here by the

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by the phone, and I just
got pulled at the last minute and they

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just they from ever since then,
they refused to have me on the show

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again. So so some shenanigan happened. I don't know what it is,

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but uh, it's it's that same
thing has been happening a lot, which

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which actually led me to see that
the field of ufology. Yeah, what

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is sad is that a lot of
the UFO community has been highly infiltrated with

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a lot of disinformation people, a
lot of you know, misinformation and and

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you know a lot of intelligence and
in there that at the highest levels,

407
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.640
and that that's what we've seen over
and over again, and and even you

408
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.559
know, some of the people have
come up here. It's amazing. They

409
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.519
come up here and just try to
throw monkey wrenches into things and sabotage things

410
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:37.119
and things of that nature. And
so we always document everything that happens here

411
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.039
even while they're here visiting. And
and you know, there are some people

412
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.519
very high up in the field that
that were among you know, sixty people

413
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.279
in the field saw an amazing ship
fly in and power up and make a

414
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:58.640
turn and the next day said,
nothing happened. Really yeah, And and

415
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.680
so I through this process over the
years, I've learned who is who in

416
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:06.160
the field and who you can trust
and who you can't trust. And it's

417
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.599
very sad because there's very few people
in the field you can trust, you

418
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:15.240
know, And so you know,
it's it's it's sad. But I really

419
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.720
think about if we're really going for
contact, and we do want to contact

420
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.000
these beans, and if they are
extremely advanced beans, most likely the very

421
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:27.759
spiritually advanced, and you know,
I think they're waiting for us to get

422
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:32.680
our act together before they come in. And a lot of the things going

423
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:38.799
on in the UFO community is directly
adverse to contact. I mean, there's

424
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:44.440
no reason for them to contact us
if we can't get our own act together.

425
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.480
It's kind of funny though, because
I kind of have seen aspects of

426
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.880
what you're talking about in this field, and it's it's kind of a careful

427
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.839
what you wish for a type of
thing, because I've seen where and certain

428
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.079
sightings that UFO reach which just kind
of act weird about it. It's almost

429
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:07.480
like it challenges their worldview even though
it's something they're looking for. So then

430
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.800
they just kind of push it out
of their minds just like the general public,

431
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.159
or or they try to make it
fit mm hmm. Yeah, they

432
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.880
pigeonholes into their belief system. You
know. It's sad too. It's like

433
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.079
right now a lot of the community
is going towards it's all negative. It's

434
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:28.800
a threat, and that's fitting into
the agenda, you know, of the

435
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.920
world order boys and and whereas there
that was, you know, there was

436
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.719
a lot of tinkering going on in
manipulation and there we have been infiltrated big

437
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:43.440
time by some of these beings.
The regenerate ets, the benevolent ones are

438
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.159
coming in now to to clean up
this interference and to get us back on

439
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:52.599
track. So but you know,
these these the very people that are have

440
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.920
been a part of the problem that
are working with these regenerate ets now are

441
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.559
are trying to turn the positive ones
into a thread and brainwashed the people into

442
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.360
thinking all the teas are negative,
they're all bad, and they're all here

443
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.400
to slice and dice this and create, you know, make human pelf out

444
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.679
of us. And Hollywood's really big
on that one, right. Yeah,

445
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.719
And it's very sad because all of
this is total contrary to you know,

446
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:24.320
contact with the benevolent beings, which
which really have everything we need to completely

447
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:32.559
turn this planet around. Now.
A lot of and this kind of makes

448
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.360
me curious a lot of like what
we see, and even the people who

449
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.199
have gone out there like and videotaped
with you, they've gotten some great I

450
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.719
think even the Fox News one,
you know, they had the Bernard hash

451
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.840
come on and say there are possibly
satellites, but earlier they showed the video

452
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.480
there are two moving and opposite directions
at different angles, which is really weird

453
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:57.199
for satellites, you know. And
then I love the Danny Dyer one because

454
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:04.000
he gets so excited from what he
saw. But it seems like they're very

455
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:08.440
careful in what they show us.
Yeah, it's been sanitized. All of

456
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:14.480
those have been very sanitized unfortunately,
because I mean we had some really good

457
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.039
I think Paranormal State did a pretty
good job with some of the footage.

458
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.599
But we had massive power ups,
and people go, those are Riddim flairs.

459
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.719
We know where the riddim flares are, you know, and they're not

460
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.000
satellite spending the power up like that. Huh. These things are tree top

461
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.719
level. And I have things,
you know, I had a conference here.

462
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.760
Every year we have a major conference
here, and I had like Mary

463
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:44.760
Rodwell, Dolores Cannon, William,
Henry Brooks, Agnew Renald Legato. I'm

464
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:45.960
trying to think of all the people. I mean, it was a huge

465
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.400
list of people, and so we
did an intention experiment and a meditation to

466
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.960
invite them in. And immediately right
when it ended, you know, people

467
00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:00.519
felt an energy come into the room
and people were just signing and bryan and

468
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:07.119
feeling wonderful energies. We walked outside
after the meditation and this beautiful pink orange

469
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:15.239
ship flew right over the conference building
and god, I'm trying to think of

470
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.000
his name. He's a physicist,
got a really good he got it on

471
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.880
his iPhone, you know, and
a bunch of people took photographs and things.

472
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.159
Brooks Agnew filmed it too with a
physicist, and so here we've got

473
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.760
over two hundred witnesses, and you
know, we initiated the contact. The

474
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.599
ship flew right over the conference building, you know, for everybody to see.

475
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.920
People were jumping up and down,
screaming and hollering, going, oh

476
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.679
my god. You know, it's
like amazing. And this goes on here

477
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.280
quite a bit, and I'm trying
to wonder, like everybody goes, well,

478
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.239
when's contact going to happen? And
you know, everybody's pushing it off

479
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.159
into the future. But but I've
been saying, you know, this has

480
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.199
been going on here for twenty five
years. You know, already has happened,

481
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.880
and all that needs is some open
minded researchers to come and check it

482
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.840
out, you know, and and
not to come in arrogance, because they're

483
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.079
very turned off by that, but
to come with an open mind and loving

484
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.679
heart and rise to the occasion,
and then they're going to understand and experience,

485
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.960
you know, and have their own
contacts. I guess what I was

486
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:21.840
meaning too is that the each sees
himself, the phenomena itself, seems to

487
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.840
be careful at what it displays to
us exactly if you're not ready, if

488
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.320
it's going to instill fear or you
know, they're going to keep their distance

489
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.280
and they'll do you know, I
call it dazzle duty. They'll do it

490
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.840
up high and let you know they're
here. But it's all about consciousness and

491
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.599
we have to rise to the occasion, and you know, just to stand

492
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.719
in the presence of one of these
beings. Their their fields are so strong.

493
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:52.440
If you're harboring a lot of fear
and guilt and unworthiness and you know,

494
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:58.880
lower consciousness, you know, this
all is creating severe problems, you

495
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:02.800
know, with coming in contact with
them in their fields, because one they're

496
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:08.119
extremely sensitive and they feel it and
it makes them ill almost and two it

497
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:15.119
amplifies and accelerates everything within the other
person. So they all their fears and

498
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.599
their angers and frustrations and their old
wounds and traumas come up, you know

499
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.800
when it just being in their presence, and very few would stand in that

500
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.480
presence and heal that. Most of
them will project and blame and you know,

501
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.440
go for their gun or fall back
into a victim role. I want

502
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.320
to hear your thoughts on this too, because this is kind of where I've

503
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.119
gotten in it. It's one of
the things where it really has been a

504
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.280
goal for mine for a long time
to get out there, but I haven't

505
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.760
really prioritized it super high. I
probably will now that I talk to you,

506
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.920
because it gets so busy, but
also because I kind of feel like,

507
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:55.880
you know, I've seen I've had
sightings. I've seen them these things

508
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.800
flying around in that I believe are
you know, from somewhere else. But

509
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:05.280
it's like, okay, great,
what does that do for me? I

510
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.679
kind of feel like, uh,
and I don't mind this that we're on

511
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.000
their timeline. So in other words, whenever they feel like, you know,

512
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:17.440
an experience can happen, it will
happen. Pretty much. Yeah,

513
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.960
they're the ones in control of what's
going on. And you know, they

514
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.159
have a friend up here, John
Kelly, who's been out in the field

515
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.519
filming for the past probably what four
or five years, I'm not sure,

516
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:34.440
and he's just gotten amazing footage and
he does reverse speech on a lot of

517
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.480
the even our presidents, you know, and they say, you know,

518
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.559
the UFOs are in control. You
know, they said there's the real power

519
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.519
and things like that. So so
basically we are on their timeline, especially

520
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:52.719
the benevolent lines. They are are
waiting for those you know who are you

521
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.880
know, healing and moving towards an
open mind, a loving heart, and

522
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.760
pure intent. And when you've got
those mastered, they're going to find you

523
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.840
because your frequencies are going to be
emitting a field and energy that they'll pick

524
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.920
up, so they know when you're
ready, and and if you're not ready,

525
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.960
they'll just kind of just tease you
a little bit, get closer and

526
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.639
closer and closer, and push your
push your envelope a little bit, push

527
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:22.960
up your peers and things until you're
really ready to have the experience. I

528
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.559
want to tell one short little story
because we had a woman here and we

529
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.679
have a lot of Native American elders
come here, Lama's Jovis, people from

530
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.599
all walks of life that all know
about this phenomenon. It's part of their

531
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:38.280
culture. But we were doing a
ceremony in a sweat lodge and we came

532
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.639
out of the lodge, and right
when we were coming out of the lodge,

533
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.679
I was telling people, you know, we're very unified now in energy,

534
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:50.360
and we're really at peace and we're
in a really good space. So

535
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.360
don't be surprised if the UFOs don't
drop in really low. And so this

536
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.880
one woman is standing and she goes, I want I want them to land,

537
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.639
they better land. I want to
get on this sh And she's said,

538
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:02.880
I want you know this and that. And right after she said that,

539
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:10.000
this huge kind of an orange colored
lightship and beautiful lightship came in really

540
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.800
low, brilliant light right over us. And she ran and she ran and

541
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.960
grabbed a tree and was hanging on
a tree, and and I told her,

542
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.159
I said, you know, we
think we're ready. We really do.

543
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.679
We think we're ready. I've had
chigung and kung fu masters just go

544
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:36.679
go in to blank out and go
into shock almost and stare at these ships.

545
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.639
And after they go away, they
have a camera on their shoulder and

546
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.760
they forgot they even had a camera, and like that. So we really

547
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.880
do think we're ready for these experiences, but when it happens, we often

548
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:53.199
find out we're really not. Does
it seem like to you that a lot

549
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.800
of this interaction is I mean,
because we like to think often in a

550
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:07.400
like us and them, as far
as these large communities contacting or communicating back

551
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:12.119
and forth, and it seems overwhelming
to think that maybe these things would be

552
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.599
interacting with people like one at a
time. But it almost seems like that's

553
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:21.199
the case. It is kind of
an individual kind of growth or experience,

554
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:23.760
you know, you know it is, and they don't want to get behind

555
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.920
any one religion or government or anything
else. They want us to transcend that,

556
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:31.239
you know, and they you know, somebody asked me do they believe

557
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.559
in god or do they have a
god? And I said, you know,

558
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:39.440
they have their leaders and their masters
and their history, but the God

559
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:44.079
that they worship is an unseen god. It's like the creator in all creation.

560
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:49.679
It's more of an intelligent design program
that they're looking at. And you

561
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.280
know, the bearded God that so
many people are involved with with, you

562
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.760
know, that image came from the
Anunaki. They were the bearded gods.

563
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.199
You know, that came to the
Earth, what four hundred and fifty thousand

564
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:04.239
years ago, But there were many
other experiences. I mean, the Earth's

565
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.320
history goes back six hundred and fifty
million years according to Cremo, you know,

566
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:13.119
Michael Crimo and other researchers. You
know, there's been advanced cultures here

567
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.480
and that have you know, we've
had to start over suprimitives due to poll

568
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:22.360
shifts and meteor strikes and things of
that nature. So the archaeology is there.

569
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.800
You know, they're digging up the
ruins and finding them and you know

570
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:29.440
a lot of it's hidden, you
know, but because you know, they

571
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.280
don't want to upset the apple cart. But you know, we've been around

572
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.119
a long long time here and we've
had many different civilizations start up here.

573
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:43.559
The earth has been colonized over and
over and you know we've had Laryan colonies

574
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.199
here, Platian colonies here, Atlantis
and Lamiri were started by the Palladians.

575
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.639
There's been so many different races here. So you know, we are the

576
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.159
ets we've been looking for. I
mean, there are ancestors, you know,

577
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.400
we're genetically connected to these beings and
we're connected to a lot of different

578
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.239
ancestors, which is why we have
all the diversity here on the earth,

579
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.840
some of the sightings out there.
Because just to also let people know,

580
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.400
you know, another reason why why
I am excited to talk to you and

581
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.000
I find this all interesting is that
so many people I know, I think

582
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.639
everybody I know who have gone to
the East Adie Ranch or Adams have had

583
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.719
their own sighting, some of them
very skeptical people, so they're they're been

584
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.639
really excited about it. A lot
of the sightings I've heard of have been

585
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.320
things that are far off on the
mountain. So to some of your videos,

586
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.719
however, could you describe me be
some of the really close, Like

587
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:46.119
how close have some of these things
gotten? These physical crafts? Well,

588
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.840
personally, for me, I've had
interactions with them ever since I was a

589
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.760
kid, and I've actually been on
the ships, and not just physical ships,

590
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.639
but other dimensional ships because after my
near death experience, I learned to

591
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.079
go interdimensional with a lot of training, you know, through lamas and yogis

592
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.800
and things of that nature. But
this is way outside the box, and

593
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.440
it's hard for people to understand that
we're not just embodying a personality. We

594
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.880
have a spirit, and that spirit's
multi dimensional and it goes all the way

595
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:22.840
back to the source. So when
we understand that and really do our spiritual

596
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:28.239
practices, we start to engage the
spiritual side of ourselves, the multi dimensional

597
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.440
self, and then we can have
these multi dimensional experiences. But relating that

598
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.840
back to here on this level and
bringing that into this matrix that has everybody

599
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.920
trapped in the physical and everything is
external. Is a rough road you know,

600
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.039
to haul, you know, because
you don't have any mirrors or there's

601
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:53.159
very little agreement on that other than
the physicists know that these Michio Kaku talks

602
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:57.280
talks a lot about it, you
know, and saying a lot of our

603
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:05.119
contacts may not be coming from another
world, but from another dimension. The

604
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:10.079
different beings that you see, how
often do people see those? And like

605
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.719
how close do these these beings get. Well, there's a lot of people

606
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:21.880
I know of that are having face
to face contact and they're having scenes appear,

607
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.039
you know, in their living rooms
and things like that, and in

608
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.679
their meditations they're popping right in.
So that's happening on a very big scale,

609
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.440
especially after people come here and go
through some of our courses or go

610
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.639
through the transpersonal release sessions, you
know, which are those are interesting too,

611
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:43.440
because we had a scientist come here
and film one of the sessions,

612
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.199
and one of the sessions, a
seventh dimensional being came in from the plane

613
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.159
of Bliss, a golden light being, and he actually filmed the whole thing

614
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.519
as it came in and everybody's bodies
turned into a pixelated out into white light

615
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:01.440
and during the healing process, and
then another being came in and her energy

616
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.840
was pink, you know, and
another being came in and it was green.

617
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.280
But we have that all document on
the website. So you know,

618
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:12.960
you're talking about seven dimensional things here, and most people aren't ready for that.

619
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:19.480
But this phenomenon, you know,
a ufo. You have metallic UFOs,

620
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.719
you know, with physical beings on
them. You have energy UFOs with

621
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.840
energy beings on them. You have
light ships with beings with magnetized light bodies

622
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.159
on them, and so all of
this, but very few people can access

623
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:43.039
the higher dimensional aspect of contact and
the contacts, I guess, are they

624
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:49.639
more kind of an interaction where it's
kind of experiencing each other, more more

625
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:54.320
of that kind of thing, or
are these contacts I guess, intended to

626
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:02.280
help us move to a place where
we can all be in connection with them.

627
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.079
Yes, their main purpose. I
asked some of the plannings we were

628
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:13.719
working with why they're here, and
they told me to release the pass,

629
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.000
and so I asked them to go
more in depth in that, and they

630
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:21.880
said that your past is creating your
tomorrow, and all your wounds and traumas

631
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.679
and history and your grudges and all
these things that you're holding onto are recreating

632
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.280
your tomorrow. So they're they're helping
us heal this and actually a lot of

633
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:36.440
that energy psychometrizes into the very earth
itself, and they're changing the frequencies of

634
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:40.360
the planet. You know, a
good one was the dome one Dome of

635
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:44.360
the Rock over there. A lot
of people are trying to say that was

636
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.239
fake, but the first footage was
real, and then they threw a lot

637
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.519
of fake footage in after that,
as they always do to try to divert

638
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.760
people from it. But that ship
was actually a feline race from serious that

639
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.400
came in and you can see the
ship interacting if you really look at you

640
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.400
can see it interacting with the ground
and this beautiful energy coming off the ship

641
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.440
and interacting with the ground there.
And when it finally takes off, a

642
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:15.280
power burst goes off and it hits
the whole area. And we found out

643
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.920
through telepathic means that these beings were
there to change the frequencies and all the

644
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.119
old religious psychometrized energy in you know, the whaling Wall and the Dome of

645
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.679
the Rock and all these other things
there to give us a chance to reboot,

646
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:37.199
you know, to reboot consciousness,
because these are they're like, oh

647
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.679
god, they're very sacred places.
They're power spots on the planet and they're

648
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.320
connected into the grid on major grid
lines, and so when they change the

649
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:50.480
frequencies there, it helps the entire
planet. You know. But this is

650
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.960
this is things that that most people
wouldn't understand. You know, this is

651
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.280
really high level understanding what's going on. But what also is interesting is,

652
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.800
I believe the ship over Russia that
shut the airports down and everything, some

653
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.480
of the people in the tower said
that they had conversation going over the intercom

654
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:15.440
there and that the beings sounded feline, and they sounded like they're like cat

655
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.719
like beings that they're They didn't know
what they were saying, but it sounded

656
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.880
like a female cat like beings that
was trying to converse with them over the

657
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:30.360
over the radio. And so that
ties into a lot of the information that

658
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.840
we're getting as well as our contacts
here with some of the feline beings.

659
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.920
They're humanoid, you know, they're
upright, but they're more feline. Now

660
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:43.320
do you think this is working?
Because I mean, when you look at

661
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:49.360
what current affairs or how things have
been going. It looks kind of almost

662
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.559
dim that. So do you think
we are actually moving in the right direction,

663
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:59.840
that some of this help is working? We definitely are. You know,

664
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.360
have you ever seen I think it's
cimantics when they put a lot of

665
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.880
energy in You'll have a pattern and
you put a bunch of energy into it

666
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.639
a pattern, and often it just
goes into chaos for a little while,

667
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:15.079
and then it creates a whole new
pattern after that. And then you turn

668
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.000
the energy up higher, same thing
happens. Everything goes into chaos, and

669
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:24.119
then it settles back into a more
highly evolved pattern. And so, believe

670
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:28.480
it or not, it's hard to
look at, but some of the chaos

671
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.920
and all of the revolution stuff going
on, and the wars and things like

672
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:37.400
that are all part of a process
of you know, all of that's coming

673
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.639
up. It's being pushed up to
the surface, and the people are just

674
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.320
saying, you know enough, you
know, we're done with tyranny, We're

675
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:50.920
done with being controlled and manipulated.
And I think one of the most backwards

676
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.119
people during this whole process is us, you know, the United States.

677
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.800
I mean, we just found out
that on every level our constitution has been

678
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.239
you know, especially you know,
our right to privacy and things like that,

679
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.239
and and our leaders and the people
are just sitting on their heels not

680
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:12.599
doing anything. Oh that's okay.
You know they can they can listen to

681
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:16.000
every email, they can listen to
every conversation. I have every phone call.

682
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.639
Uh, and you know, they
could probably blackmail me later on with

683
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.800
that, you know, or any
other little misunderstood things going on. They

684
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:29.280
could you know, build a case. But you know, I think I

685
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:34.320
think people should just be There are
a lot of people they're just totally not

686
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.639
going for it, you know,
and where you know, the totalian and

687
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.000
state that we're moving into right now. Yeah, it's funny you say that

688
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:44.280
because I agree in that, you
know, with all the trouble that goes

689
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.639
on everywhere, it's almost like we're
kind of spoiled and we we forget to

690
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:52.599
be compassionate and that we've got what
we got and you know, you're on

691
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:59.519
your own kind of attitudes. M
you know, it's sad because now this

692
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:01.320
is this there's another walk on the
wild side if you want to go there.

693
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:07.039
But there's a matrix and it's a
consciousness and there's people that are in

694
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.800
the matrix, and we've been so
programmed, you know, by social consciousness,

695
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:16.320
by TV, by other frequencies and
forces that are you know, working

696
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:21.400
hard on us on a daily basis. You know, the food additives,

697
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.039
the aspartame, the fluoride in the
water, all of these things have actually

698
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.840
dumbed us down and held us within
this matrix. And the programming is so

699
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:37.320
external that all of our love and
joy and bliss and happiness everything comes from

700
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.840
external acquisition. You know. We
we have to drive the right car and

701
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.039
drink the right beer, you know, to get the blonde beauty on the

702
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.960
beach, and you know, all
of these things are all external, and

703
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:57.320
we're so endoctrinated into that that we're
totally our internal process has completely been hijacked,

704
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.960
and so we're trapped in the physical
all in survival, sex, and

705
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:06.480
power, basically in the first three
chakras of the base emotions, you know,

706
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:12.440
through this matrix. And this matrix
is a matrix of consciousness. It's

707
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.119
also been fueled by other frequencies and
energies, and that whole matrix is collapsing

708
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:20.719
right now. So people are starting
to wake up and they're starting to go

709
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.559
within and go internal and go wait
a second. You know this, these

710
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:30.039
other things are dependencies. They're enslaving. You know, we've been totally enslaved

711
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.440
through dependency in our own minds.
You know, we have fuel less energy,

712
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.239
We've had that for years. You
know, we have all these other

713
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.800
technologies with free people up to get
back into their creative mind. But that's

714
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:45.039
all been heavily suppressed. And people
are starting to wake up to this whole

715
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.519
thing, this network, I call
it the ARCon network. It's it's not

716
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:52.320
a very pretty picture because the higher
you go up, you know, in

717
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:58.320
leadership, the darker it gets.
And so and those people were seeing in

718
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:02.199
the physical are actually being manipulated by
unseen energies. And they do secret ceremonies

719
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:07.760
and things like that to bring these
energies in for power and wealth and power

720
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:12.599
over others, not empowering others.
So it's a very self serving, selfish

721
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.119
program, and that whole program is
being you know, collapsed. I mean,

722
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:20.679
look at the banksters, look at
the military industry, you know,

723
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:25.400
the oil industry, the pharmaceutical industry, all those industries are not really here

724
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.880
for the highest and best good of
humanity and the earth. They're here to

725
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.639
create you know, more pain,
more suffering, more chaos, and more

726
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:37.119
enslavement. And you know that's that's
all going to fold in on itself during

727
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:44.360
this process that we're now undergoing.
I'm curious, I mean, do you

728
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:50.280
feel that you have Do you feel
there's a timeline to this? Do you

729
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:55.639
feel like you know you'll see this
kind of opening within your lifetime or maybe

730
00:56:55.719 --> 00:57:01.280
even sooner. Definitely, it's it's
it's really kicking up now. In the

731
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:06.480
next three weeks, major events are
going to be unfolding, but we're going

732
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.920
to see it go on for the
next three years and this whole program,

733
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:15.360
this whole tyranny program, and the
enslavement through dependency and all these other programs

734
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:20.039
are going to be clapping in on
themselves. And it's all being done through

735
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.960
energy, and you know, consciousness
and energy is how it's happening. But

736
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:27.039
we have to do our part,
you know, here on the planet as

737
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:32.079
well. So it's a matter of
communicating with each other and you know,

738
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:37.440
getting back to the basics and you
know, following the universal principles that are

739
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:43.920
necessary for a healthy society and environment. Our universal law and that's written in

740
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.079
the heart of hearts of everybody.
We all know what that is, and

741
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:50.719
we just have to get back in
touch with the heart and start communicating with

742
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:55.840
each other. And that's the way
out. Now. If people wanted to

743
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:01.559
come experiences and come to Mount Adams
and to maybe have their own experience,

744
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.199
what's the best way to do that
to come to the ranch or s they're

745
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:09.519
camping. What would you suggest?
The best way to do it is either

746
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.239
to call us, you know,
or go to the east Setti website,

747
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:16.519
you know, Esteti dot org and
all the information is there and give us

748
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:21.639
a call or send us an email
and we'll set something up. We had

749
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:25.559
to change everything here. We used
to be totally open. You know,

750
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:30.079
anybody could come to the ranch and
we just let anybody come up and do

751
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.760
their thing and with no problems.
But we started receiving a lot of problems

752
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.639
from the powers that be and through
certain agencies, you know, county agencies

753
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:42.480
and things like that. So we
had to totally shift gears and go completely

754
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:47.199
private. And so we we actually
patented the land and everything and had to

755
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:53.400
remove ourselves from from the from jurisdiction. And at the same time we had

756
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.280
to not be open to the public. We have to have everything private so

757
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.400
we can maintain our boundaries and not
get you know, shut down basically,

758
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:06.800
So we had to go through a
process. So that process is that people

759
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:10.280
contact us and then we give you
a private invitation if you want to come

760
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:15.559
and have a private experience, you
know, right, And and that's not

761
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:20.559
the way we we really wanted to
do things. It's the way right now

762
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:23.920
we have to do things because of
the the status quo and the powers that

763
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:29.360
be, which are sen to be
the powers that were now. And it

764
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.840
sounds like you're open to people.
You know, they may not be really

765
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.360
into the metaphysical parts, they're not
sure about that, but they do want

766
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.599
to there maybe more nuts and bolts
people who want to have a citing experience.

767
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.159
Are you still open to those people
contacting you? You know, yes

768
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.039
we are. But one of the
things that I find if you do come

769
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.440
up here, I don't I don't
mind discernment. I think discernment is really

770
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.639
important, you know, but when
people come up here with a bad attitude,

771
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.079
they mess it up for everybody else. And so we've had people come

772
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:05.239
up here and you know, and
they just start that's not that's a satellite.

773
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.519
That's that's and they start just just
making it nasty for everyone else.

774
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:13.320
And uh, you know, and
we'll just wait. You know, you

775
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.239
don't know that's the satellite. You
know, do you have the Heavens Above

776
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:21.239
or the j tracker on your computer
right now? And and we said just

777
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:22.960
wait and observe it, you know, and see what it does. And

778
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.559
you know, we had one woman
here when Above top Secret was here,

779
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.760
and she was a moof on investigator
and she just started standing up and screaming

780
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:37.119
and yelling and saying, these are
all satellites and these are all you need

781
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.079
to go to Above top Secret and
check out their website and and learn about

782
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:45.239
this and everything else. And you
know, Johnny Anonymous was right there with

783
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:47.320
all of the equipment. He says, woman, I am Above top Secret

784
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.920
and these are not satellites. You
know, he said, I have all

785
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:57.039
the tracker and equipment right here.
You know. So so you know,

786
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:02.199
we get people that unfortunately are beginners, that are a little arrogant and they

787
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:07.960
have a you know, they come
to to they think they have to save

788
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.880
everybody or something. I don't know
what it is, but you know,

789
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:13.360
and I tell people too, it's
like I can't be out in the field

790
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.400
twenty four to seven, pointing out
what's the satellite and what's the UFO.

791
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.960
Yeah, it's that. I try
to if the space station comes over and

792
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.000
I'm out there, I go,
hey, guys, you know, everybody's

793
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.840
screaming and hollering. I go,
No, that's the space station, you

794
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:30.840
know, it's I try to tell
people. But John Alexander was here and

795
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.599
this beautiful triangle ship was coming in
right over the mountain, totally silent,

796
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.280
and everybody was screaming and hollering,
you know. And I was telling John

797
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.679
and I told the people that I
said, that's not a UFO, and

798
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:44.480
they got really upset with me,
and I go, it's not a UFO

799
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.679
And they said why, and I
said, because the light's dirty. It's

800
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.280
dirty light. It's our light.
It's not starlight. You know, it's

801
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.119
yellow. It has it. You
could has a tent to it, and

802
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:58.000
and because of my abilities, I
could scan it. And I said,

803
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:02.159
whatever's on that on that jet or
whatever it is, it's some kind of

804
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.159
high tech stuff. But the person
on it is not very conscious, you

805
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.880
know. And so finally when it
finally came over us, it was silent

806
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:14.239
too. When we finally heard a
faint engine when it came over us,

807
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.480
and you could tell it was,
you know, probably one of those stealth

808
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:21.760
bombers or something of that nature.
But you know, it's kind of like

809
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.800
almost a setup, you know,
like when they flew over it, trying

810
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:27.320
to get everybody to say yeah,
yeah, and then they'd set you up

811
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.760
later. So you have to be
really discerning and careful about that because you

812
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:35.079
know, they're always trying to set
you up, you know, and make

813
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.559
you look like a crackpot or whatever. Yeah, well, I think we're

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about out of time, But I
agree with you. I think that's just

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good in general. It's fine to
be skeptic, but you don't have to

816
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be a jerk about it. Yeah, I'm ever good to have a bad

817
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:51.159
attitude. Yeah. Yeah, that
just runs it for everybody. And they

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scan us, they scan the group, and they sense that and that if

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the group's all chaotic and there's a
lot of negativity there, they'll stay up

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high. Well, great, thank
you so much for coming on the air.

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I think this was a lot of
fun. So people know it's ees

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Eddie dot org org and that's enlightened
contact with extraterrestrial intelligence and you're going to

823
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be at contact in the desert.
Is that true in just a few weeks

824
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:22.119
here, Yeah, what that is
the I'll let people know when that is,

825
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and then hopefully you'll be coming to
the UFO Congress in February too.

826
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Then. Yeah, it'd be good
to get back there. I haven't been

827
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there in quite a while. Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun.

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I'm sure a lot of people would
love to hear what you have to say.

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Sounds great. Hey, well,
thanks for having me on the show

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and keep up the good work.
Thank you very much. Thank you to

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James for coming on the show and
talking some really interesting stuff. Of course,

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you had some very interesting ideas.
Some of you might find it a

833
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.559
little metaphysical. Some of you,
I'm sure, really enjoy that aspect.

834
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.719
But I would implore even the nuts
and bolts people out there to go visit

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01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:59.800
Mount Adams because, like I said, you know, it seems that a

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lot a lot of people are having
sidings out there, and it is something

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that I feel it is a little
irresponsible of me have to have not been

838
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:12.519
out there yet, but hopefully I'll
get out there soon because there's supposed to

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be a lot of really interesting sidings
out there, and I'm excited to get

840
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.519
out there and take a look for
myself. I found personally that if you

841
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:23.320
want to see a UFO, you
go where people say. They say UFOs

842
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:27.000
a lot, because my sightings have
been in a couple of hot spots as

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01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.280
well, so I'm excited about that. So thank you to James. You

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can go to his site at esti
dot org ec eti for more information and

845
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.960
for more information on all the news
that Jason and I spoke about, and

846
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.760
you could go to Openminds dot tv
and like we said, we're getting lots

847
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:50.679
of really cool stuff up on our
YouTube, so go to open Mind's TV

848
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:55.559
on YouTube as well. You can
get there through the site or open Minds

849
01:04:55.559 --> 01:05:00.480
TV on YouTube, and you can
also check out spacing out for or more

850
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:04.679
UFO news as well. Thank you
all so much for joining us this week,

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and always thank you too, Caleb
Hanks for our opening music and two

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Earth Minutes for the close music.
I love our music and it was so

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nice of them to send that to
us and create that for us. As

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for the rest of you, Audios, Mochato's will talk to you next week.

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