WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:24.559 day. Now, here's nick coffee. All right, let's get it start 3 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.679 at five o'clock here on a Monday afternoon. Happy Derby Week, everybody. 4 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:35.399 Hopefully you guys are excited. I know some people really love Derby and everything 5 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.960 that comes with it, and there's others that are more, you know, 6 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.479 casually. I'm more of a casual, right, I'm not a big horse 7 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.240 I mean, I'm not a horse racing fan specifically, don't know much about 8 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:48.359 it and probably never will. But everything that comes with Derby is awesome as 9 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:51.679 somebody who's lived here my whole life. And you know, the race itself, 10 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.880 it's, you know, the most exciting two minutes in sports. That's 11 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.799 what it's been branded as for quite some time. I'm not sure, you 12 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.840 know. I mean, I can't really disagree, right because I'm gonna watch 13 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.239 the Derby. You're not a horse racing fan either, John? Are you? 14 00:01:03.519 --> 00:01:06.920 Do? You? Are you guy that you know? Is it kind 15 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:10.599 of a whatever day? Yeah? The day itself is a whatever day, 16 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:15.400 but I do always make an appointment to watch the Derby race itself. Derby 17 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:17.799 Party you go to any derby party. I haven't been to a derby party 18 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.359 probably in maybe five or six years, maybe longer. Yeah, And if 19 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:23.079 you're at a party, then like it's gonna be everybody stopping and what they're 20 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.719 doing. And obviously if you're there, it's you know, you're gonna know 21 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.120 when the derby's running. But I do feel like it's one of those I 22 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.400 think there's a lot of folks like you that maybe you know, they don't 23 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.319 go to it, and maybe they would go to a derby party every now 24 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.519 and then, but it's just not something they're seeking out. But I feel 25 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:44.319 like they will make sure they're able to find a TV or pull out their 26 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:49.000 phone and watch the actual you know, Kentucky Derby. And I say this 27 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:55.920 all the time. It amazes me the amount of interest that this event has 28 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.319 for, you know, across the world. And it shouldn't amaze me because 29 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.840 again, it's what we're known for. Right, one day out of the 30 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:07.200 three hundred and sixty five days a year, there are more eyeballs on this 31 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.400 city than there are in any other point and it's when this race happens. 32 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.479 And like, I know that, but it still always just surprises me to 33 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.199 be at Churchill Downs the day of Derby working for has doing different interviews and 34 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.159 whatnot, and the vast majority of the people there aren't from here, And 35 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.159 you know that's good. I mean, we have an event that brings that 36 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.960 many people from across the world here, and you know, I think it's 37 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:30.960 good for a city to have something like that, right, it's your day 38 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.080 to shine. And I feel like for the most part, you know, 39 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:35.960 more often than not, the folks at Churchill Downs and everybody in Louisville that 40 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.759 really does it big for the Derby, for people who come from out of 41 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.280 town. I feel like we do our part because we keep them coming back. 42 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:47.199 But those that watch the watch the race from across the country that you 43 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.879 know, they aren't they've never been to Derby, they've never been to Louisville 44 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.639 during Derby week, but they just it's that big of a sporting event that 45 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.120 like, regardless of your interest, if you can, you will, you 46 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.599 will turn it on and make sure you watch it. So sometimes I get 47 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.199 a little bit of fomo, right, fear missing out. I'm just like, 48 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.680 wait a second, I should be more into this. But like I 49 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:07.680 for years, I would think, okay, you know, you need to 50 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:12.400 be a little bit more educated on the sport and be able to, you 51 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.080 know, be dangerous enough to you know, have a conversation. But I 52 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:16.800 just I couldn't fake it. I'd be a phony. Right, So I 53 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:21.319 love everything about Derby, everything that comes with it, Derby season, I 54 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.560 should say, and the Derby, you know, the Derby itself is great. 55 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:25.919 But like I'm not, I wasn't exposed to the sport of horse racing 56 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.759 a lot as a kid, and it's never been something that I've really been 57 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.000 that interested in. So, you know, if I did decide to use 58 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.879 this week to really start you know, bs and you and talking you know, 59 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.479 speed figures and you know other horse racing jargon, I started throwing that 60 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:44.360 out there at you, I'd be a phony and you know first and I 61 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.000 don't think you'd want to hear that anyway. So we're not going to you 62 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.800 know, neglect Derby. It's a big deal. That's why we've been letting 63 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.280 you hear some of our Derby horse profiles from Jody Dimmling, who works for 64 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:58.759 us only during Derby time these days, and he does a great job covering 65 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:00.919 horse racing. He is the expert, so each year he'll do a profile 66 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.919 on each of the horses that are running in the derby, and we've let 67 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:04.960 you here I think is at three at this point. Yes, so we'll 68 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:09.039 do a couple of more before we wrap it up and hopefully get you'll hear 69 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.159 all of them before we get to the end of the week, and maybe 70 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:16.360 they can help you decide what what horse you're gonna pick. Also, the 71 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:21.759 annual Barnstable Brown Gala party is coming up, just like you know always, 72 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:28.920 and they have updated here at WHS eleven dot com the list of those attending, 73 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.360 the celebrities that have given him an RSVP, and they're going to be 74 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.879 in attendance, and we've gone through i'd say about thirty percent of the list 75 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.800 up to this point. And I don't know if anybody finds this to be 76 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.240 you know, entertaining. If anything, it's probably because they're laughing at us. 77 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.600 Because there's some celebrities that, like we clearly know, right like Jack 78 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.759 Harlow, Smokey Robinson, Aaron Rodgers, Kid Rock. But then there's other 79 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.879 names like Cole Hauser, which I guessed he was a baseball player, sure 80 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:54.000 enough, I know exactly who he is. Wouldn't have known his name though 81 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:59.360 it's ripped from Yellowstone. He's going to be there. Cheryl Lee Ralph. 82 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.240 That was one we didn't know, right. Yeah, she's an actress song 83 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.360 of the show Abbott Elementary we found out. Yeah, not familiar with that 84 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:08.319 show. But you know, apparently that show's got some poppy it's it's it's 85 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:12.279 popular to some, so she's turned it into you know, I don't know. 86 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.199 I doubt that she credits her role there for this invite, but I 87 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.639 don't know. Maybe she does. But we'll get to more of that throughout 88 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.480 the rest of the show today, and we've got you know, the rest 89 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:23.079 of the week. I will be out on Thursday and Friday, so a 90 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.439 shorter week for me. But you'll be in good hands, no doubt. 91 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.879 All right, So let's just dive right back in here, shall we. 92 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.839 I would assume a lot of folks, even if you are just now joining 93 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.199 the show now you are aware of the news from earlier today. Jaden Quayt's 94 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:40.360 the five star big Man sixteen year old phenom number eight player in America. 95 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:44.560 He has decided to commit to Arizona State, so he visited there this past 96 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.759 weekend. I think Louisville was in really good shape and it came down to 97 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:56.879 a role I guess playing time. And his father did talk to the Memphis 98 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:00.480 Commercial Appeal last week around the town that they canceled their visit to me Memphis 99 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.879 and stated that they're looking for a place where he could come in and start 100 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.040 right away. I mean that was his father's words, word for word, 101 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.720 just a week ago. And you know, Pat Kelsey, I don't think 102 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.240 was going to guarantee that. In fact, I'm sure he wasn't, and 103 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.399 I understand that decision. So it's not to say that, well, you 104 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:17.920 know, we don't need him anyway, We didn't want him. Louisvill wanted 105 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:21.680 him, and they didn't get him. Arizona State ended up being the school 106 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:26.120 that landed his services, and I think he'll be an impactful player for them. 107 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.680 He'd have been an impact He would have been an impactful player here, 108 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:33.000 but at sixteen years old, it's just hard to imagine him being a starter, 109 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:38.600 you know, although maybe he would be just so talented that you wouldn't 110 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.959 be able to keep him off the floor. I don't know, but it 111 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.279 is a loss, right, meaning it's somebody that you wanted and you didn't 112 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.879 get and I'm not sure how much they were banking on him. Like to 113 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:53.199 me, I'd say from moment one, they never really felt like they had 114 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.279 him. I kids speak for anybody, so maybe they did. But obviously 115 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:00.079 there's the connection where his former where he went to high school, Word of 116 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.439 God Academy there in Raleigh. One of Pat Kelsey's assistant coaches was just coaching 117 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.360 there up until two years ago when he went and joined him at Charleston. 118 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.319 So there was that connection. And the visit went well. Louisville was believed 119 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:17.600 to have a really competitive nil offer for him, and he didn't. He 120 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.079 didn't, you know, want to talk to Mark Pope, who wanted to 121 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:26.720 do an in home visit, he decided to no longer consider Arkansas. When 122 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.160 I say he, I guess I'm meaning, you know, everybody involved. 123 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:31.160 They're not just the kid, but his parents and maybe an agent or something. 124 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.600 And then Arizona State popped up last week as a school that was going 125 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:39.079 to get a visit, and sure enough they got him. So I'm sure 126 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.040 Arizona State was willing to give him whatever guarantees he needed because and it's not 127 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.399 to say that, you know, I mean, Louisvie's in a position right 128 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:47.680 now, we're like, you know, I can't sit here and say, 129 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:49.519 well, yeah, he will play a lot more there, he won't play 130 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.759 at Louisville. I mean, he's a five star kid that if he came 131 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.720 in and he even as a young guy at sixteen, that's still maturing and 132 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.439 you're developing, like if your town that you're going to play. But I 133 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:07.000 would say for Hurley, you know, if if in fact he's got and 134 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.839 I have no clue what Arizona State's roster looks like, by the way, 135 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.040 but you know, if they only have a couple of spots open or something 136 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.040 like that, you know, I think they could they could feel a little 137 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.680 comfortable and saying, yeah, you know, we're good here here and here, 138 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.319 but you can you'll you'll plug it in this spot. And some have 139 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.040 said that, you know, Kelsey should have, you know, said whatever 140 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:28.240 it took to get him, and I don't know. I mean, I 141 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.240 guess I understand your point because it would have been a big splash. But 142 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.759 I actually, as much as it sounds corny, I think the brand for 143 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:41.600 Pat Kelsey at Charleston and Winthrop was you're going to earn everything you get like 144 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.960 they're and all coaches say that, like, it's not as if he's got 145 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:52.120 some never ever heard before approach. Right, this isn't like revolutionary stuff. 146 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.399 But I do think it became very much a part of like the DNA of 147 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.759 their programs, and it became infectious to where everybody wanted to you know, 148 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.720 just I mean, they were very competitive internally, which of course led to 149 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.440 you know, his team's having success. So I think, you know, 150 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:13.080 it would have been great but didn't work out, and now you move on 151 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:20.200 and you still have a total of I think it is five scholarships to fill. 152 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:26.519 I believe, could be wrong. It's either five or six. And 153 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.799 one thing I mentioned earlier for those who missed this, I do believe that 154 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:37.320 the streaming docuseries that one of these streaming services is going to have on Arizona 155 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.840 State and Dan Hurley this year keep saying Dan Hurley, it's Bobby Hurley. 156 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.519 Sorry, I get the Hurley Brothers mixed up. One is clearly a lot 157 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:48.080 more successful than the other, but Bobby Hurley's more the character, which is 158 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.240 why he has Hollywood producers shopping a docuseries on him. His program at Arizona 159 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.559 State that will be filmed this upcoming season, and I don't know when I'll 160 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.080 end up getting on Netflix or Hulu, whoever it ends up. But I 161 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.879 actually think if you're I mean, you can't buy if you're somebody that's featured 162 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.600 within that show and you're you know, a character. I mean, it's 163 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.399 a docu series, but like anything, there's gonna be a you know, 164 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:15.759 it's not a scripted character. But you're somebody that has a notable role within 165 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:20.240 that docuseries and you're likable or your story is really captivating to people. You 166 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.440 can't buy that type of reach. You can't you can't buy an advertisement or 167 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.440 an infomercial. And I mean, it's just it's something that only happens with 168 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:33.120 shows like that, because there'll be people who would potentially watch that that really 169 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.559 aren't that into college basketball, but they see a docuseries about I mean, 170 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.080 for example, I use this all the time. Wrestlers, the show that 171 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:48.679 was done here locally about OBW that was on Netflix's last last fall. You 172 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.519 know, many people watch that that don't care about wrestling at all. It's 173 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.360 the characters. It's the story that makes it interesting, right, And because 174 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.919 you're not necessarily a fan of that industry. It may you're more intrigued by 175 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.240 because you're coming in without really knowing anything. I mean, John, you 176 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.279 watched it. You're not a wrestling fan, right, No, not at 177 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.559 all. I mean my parents. I mean, there's a lot. So 178 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:13.120 there's a similar, there's a similar, you know, there's a similar I 179 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.360 guess component here to where you could have the same thing happen and not not 180 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.720 to say that, I don't want to say that that led to him making 181 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.320 his decision to go to Arizona State. But it could not have I put 182 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.519 it this way, It could not have hurt their chances in landing him. 183 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:28.879 And the example I used earlier for those who are just now joining us, 184 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.559 if you watch wrestlers on Netflix, Cash cash Flow, the wrestler who was 185 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.960 I think probably featured in that in that series, maybe as much as any 186 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:41.120 of the other wrestlers. Him and a couple of others. Well, you 187 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.799 know, he's a he's a and I know him personally. He's you know, 188 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:46.440 lives right near me. He went to North Bullet High School just like 189 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.000 I did, and I met him throughout this whole OVW thing. I you 190 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.360 know, didn't know anything about him, But he's been doing this for a 191 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.120 long time. He's in his forties and you know, just kind of a 192 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.759 journeyman trying to chase the dream of being a professional wrestler at the highest level. 193 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.919 Well, that really stood out in that show. Well, Sylvester Stallone 194 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.720 watched that show and he loved Cash and reached out to him and is now 195 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.360 invited him to come be a part of season two of his own show, 196 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:16.759 Tulsa King. So if you have a paramount, I actually watched season one 197 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.840 last year. Is really well done. And now, I mean earlier today 198 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:24.039 I saw I saw a post on I think his instagram. Cash is in 199 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.399 one of those trailers in La on set for Tulsa King. And it's all 200 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.960 because Sylvester Stallone watched that show and was like, this guy's awesome. Let 201 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:33.480 me, you know, let me we could give him a role. And 202 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.120 I just think that's really cool. And that's stuff that like happens because of 203 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.240 those kind of shows. So if you are somebody that you know wants it's 204 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:43.639 all about building your brand and image and reach and all that exposure. I 205 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.799 mean that that would be a huge opportunity for you if in fact you know 206 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:52.440 you're you're in it, and that reminds me we are we are kind of 207 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.399 at a point where I mean, and this has probably been this way for 208 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.600 a while, but like, no, but he's going to schools because of 209 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:07.039 like the name on the front right, Like I mean, it's all transactional. 210 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.759 I think you can you could potentially have the rare exception about a kid 211 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.360 who like is from that's you know, that that state or that area to 212 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.360 where there is the there's an there's an emotional attachment already because you grew up 213 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.559 there and you know all about it. But it's probably been this way for 214 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.679 a long time. But now it's so evident that this is all transactional. 215 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:28.240 And if you want to go get players, you gotta you gotta pay them, 216 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.519 and you got to give them opportunities to build their brand, exposure, 217 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:37.240 that kind of stuff. So Jadan Quayton's off the board, and uh, 218 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:41.480 you know, now we we wait and see who who becomes the top target 219 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.879 for for Pat Kelsey, I'd say, right now, uh Osabor the transfer 220 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.039 from from Utubotah State. I mean he's visiting I believe right now. I 221 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:58.120 mean I think he got to Lexi yesterday and the the schools that were I 222 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.240 guess, you know, believed to be in content for him is Louisville, 223 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.759 Can in no particular order, Kentucky, Louisville, I think Texas Tech was 224 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.759 one, and then the other one was Washington, which is where his former 225 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:15.879 coach is now at. So Danny Sprinkle was at Montana State with Osibor and 226 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.039 he ended up leaving following him to Utah State. They were there for one 227 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.840 year together. And now Sprinkle's on the move to Washington and Osibor. We'll 228 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.639 see where he ends up. But you know that would be a big addition. 229 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:30.240 And you know, you have more money that you could potentially use for 230 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.600 him through NIL because you're not spending any of that money on quaintance now. 231 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.000 And you know, I don't want to put pressure on Pat Kelsey because look, 232 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.120 he may not even get a visit from this guy. He may commit 233 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:45.320 to Kentucky while he's there. Who knows. There's a lot. I mean, 234 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.440 he's one of the many recruits that I've heard Kentucky's in transfers. I 235 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.039 should say the Kentucky's in great with and some of them they've landed, some 236 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.679 of them they haven't. So we'll see what ends up happening. But you 237 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.120 know, when you don't have quaintance in the mix, I think there is 238 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:00.600 more of a of a real necessity to go get another big. They will, 239 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.320 trust me, They're going to just not sure if it's going to be 240 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.720 Osbor, which if it is, that's great because again he's believed to be 241 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.480 one of the top five players available in the portal right now. So on 242 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.799 the Kentucky side, I don't think they've landed anybody today, but I know 243 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.519 yesterday and Saturday they landed a couple of commitments, so their rosters slowly but 244 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:26.480 surely starting to come together. Otaga away the Oklahoma transfer. He decided on 245 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.279 Saturday to commit to Mark Pope. And then Andrew Carr last night the wake 246 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.960 Forest Big, who was really productive last year for Steve Forbes, and he 247 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.960 will I think he'll fit well with what Mark Pope wants to do offensively. 248 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.919 But those are the two newest editions. And then Andrew Mahaney I believe is 249 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.360 his name, who is the transfer from Saint Mary's. He was visiting Kentucky 250 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.559 and then left and then committed to Yukon and then now they've got Kobe Brea, 251 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.000 the Dayton transfer, is currently visiting Kentucky as we speak, and he 252 00:15:54.120 --> 00:16:03.559 is somebody that I'm going to guess is is probably learning about the portal and 253 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.200 academic credits and how you can't literally just go anywhere you've got to be. 254 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.480 You have to go to a school where you are furthering your degree. And 255 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.399 sometimes you know, it's not just that you can't get into school like the 256 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.960 school has some strict requirement, it's just because it's not really a compatibility. 257 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.240 So he initially was down to Duke and Yukon. Well, he ended up 258 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.240 canceling his visit to Duke and is now visiting Kentucky. And maybe it's because 259 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:26.759 he didn't want to go to Duke. I don't know, but it wouldn't 260 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:29.600 shock me if he's one of the many transfers that's learned that you can't you 261 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.000 know, when you bounce around as much as some of these transfers have. 262 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.600 And I'm not even sure if this guy's transferred more than once, that it 263 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:40.679 may be tough for you to make it work academically, which actually leads me 264 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:42.519 to my next thing I wanted to bring up for those just now joining us. 265 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:47.080 So I think last time we brought up Penny Boon, the running back 266 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:51.080 who transferred from Louisville. The last time he came up, we expected he 267 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:52.720 was going to go to Kentucky, right, he transferred from Toledo, was 268 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.919 here for a few months, practiced like three times, and then bailed and 269 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.080 on his way out, you know, made it quite clear that, you 270 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.200 know, he wasn't happy about the money situation for whatever reason. Did he 271 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:04.359 think he deserved more money, Did he think he was going to get more 272 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:10.279 upfront? I don't know, but he left, and I cannot imagine that 273 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.160 him or his agent ever thought that they'd need to worry about what Louisville thought 274 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.240 of them. Although even if you didn't think you'd ever have to come back 275 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:18.720 to Louisville, which I'm not he's not going to, But I'm just saying 276 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:25.920 going out the way he did, and it's not a good look for anybody, 277 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:27.119 right. Some coaches will still take you on if you can play, 278 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:33.359 but you have really nothing to gain by doing anything other than just being you 279 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.640 know, Like some say it's corny and cliche, but like I think these 280 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.160 guys are getting good advice when they hit the portal. And even if they're 281 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.960 not happy about something in IL or they're disgruntled about playing time. They're going 282 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.799 to go out in a classy way and put the old graphic up right. 283 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:51.559 You know, that's a long paragraph they probably use AI to create. And 284 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:53.839 with that said, I'm going to you know, the transfer portal, thank 285 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:57.839 you something nation, whatever school it is, right, like, nobody really 286 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.839 reads the whole thing, and you know, it's become very cliche, but 287 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.039 that's better. It's better to do that than you know, on your way 288 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.480 out, you know, take shots like he did. So this young man, 289 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:14.480 I think could could eventually be an example for college athletes moving forward. 290 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.160 And that is one. You can't just jump in the portal and think you're 291 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.839 gonna go anywhere without knowing if it's gonna fit academically, because he can he 292 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:26.799 couldn't get into Washington. Don't know what happened at Old Miss, but at 293 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:32.079 Kentucky he was going to transfer there, but he can't. He's it's it's 294 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.640 an academic situation. Not to say that he's got like a terrible GPA or 295 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.440 something or he's failed a class, but it's something about his credits. So 296 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.880 he was at Maryland for a year or two was it Toledo for a year 297 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.960 or two, then at Louisville for three months. It's just, you know, 298 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.720 there's a lot of moving parts to where it's gonna be hard for you 299 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:52.680 to to make it work. Academically, I think Penny Boon's also somebody that 300 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.000 players can learn from, and that is, you know, make sure you 301 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.599 have a professional, a real agent, because you know, agents are important 302 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.960 when they're needed. I don't think these college athletes need agents for Nil. 303 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:10.839 I don't. I mean, that could be wrong, but I think having 304 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:15.160 an agent is just all it could do is potentially muddy some things up. 305 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.880 And if you have a real agent, you know, then that's I think 306 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.240 that's a different story. But when I say a real agent, I mean 307 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.839 a certified agent that represents professional athletes as an agent, not somebody who again 308 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.759 is twenty three years old, who DMD you and because he just got his 309 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:33.720 sports you know, his you know, his sports management degree and he wants 310 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:37.200 to, you know, act like he's an executive in the world of college 311 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.519 athletics. Like it's it's just not necessary. I mean, honestly, if 312 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.519 it's for Nil specifically, your partners are mostly going to be local businesses that 313 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.880 want to work with you, and an agent could only I think potentially scare 314 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:55.559 those people away. Whereas you know, if you look, you need somebody 315 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:57.839 to to to to work for you essentially, right, Like you've got a 316 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.160 lot of stuff going on with foot all basketball, whatever it may be, 317 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.440 but like have have like one of your parents or something do it, or 318 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:10.279 just somebody. You know. The whole fact that these this agent profession in 319 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:14.680 the nil world is a real sham because twenty percent of the revenue. I 320 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.640 mean, that's that's a that's that's a croc. It's outrageous. That's not 321 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.720 even what I mean. A real agent that you know, makes millions and 322 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.599 millions of dollars, they get like three percent or something. But I think 323 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:29.359 these college athletes are so naive because most of them don't have any experience with 324 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:32.880 agents because they wouldn't need it, Like they don't even know that they're getting 325 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.799 completely, you know, ripped off by these you know, unqualified people who 326 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.519 call themselves agents. I think by the time we get to I don't know, 327 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:44.400 a couple more years, that that old thing will be weeded out. 328 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:47.720 Like I think it's gonna because there's gonna be it's not just Penny Boon, 329 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.240 and I'm not even saying his agent specifically is the one who you know made 330 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:52.759 this mess for him. But a lot of people who know the situation better 331 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.480 than I do seem to think that that is the case. So he can't 332 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:02.039 get any Kentucky And now it sounds like like he's trying to transfer to Central 333 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:07.079 Florida. But wouldn't shock me if he once again is informed that, you 334 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:10.519 know, academically, it just doesn't it doesn't work, but he won't be 335 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.759 back at Louisville. I would be highly, highly shocked if that ended up 336 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:18.440 happening, But I guess you never know. All right, let's go, 337 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.119 let's do this, Let's take our quick break. But before we do that, 338 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.319 we'll let you hear another Derby profile and we'll get to the text line 339 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.559 coming up here on the other side and keep this thing rolling along again. 340 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:30.319 It is a Monday edition of Coffee and Company, and we're feel about Thornton's 341 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.240 here on Sports Talk seven night. Who we have next? John? This 342 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.279 is the favorite fierceness, all right, Now, look at the Kentucky derby 343 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:48.119 field one by one fierceness. Fierceness is the favorite for the Kentucky Derby after 344 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.880 a jaw dropping thirteen and a half link victory in the Florida Derby. The 345 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:59.400 Bay Sun of City Light was the two year old champion the Breeders Cup Juvenile 346 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:06.119 champion last year. He started this season off with a disappointing third place finish 347 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:11.880 in the Holy Bull Stakes, but the real Fierceness showed up at the Florida 348 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:17.640 Derby. He led the entire way and he dusted the field as they turned 349 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:22.920 for home. Owned by Micropoli's Ripoli Stable, trained by Todd Pletcher, ridden 350 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:30.079 by John Velasquez, Fierceness comes into the Kentucky Derby with a ton of buzz 351 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:34.279 and a resume to back it up. He has three wins and a third 352 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:41.240 place finish in five career starts. Fierceness started his career in August with a 353 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:47.680 blowout performance and eleven length victory and a maiden race at Saratoga. He was 354 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:52.680 then seventh in the Champagne Stakes before winning the Breeders Cup Juvenile by six and 355 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:59.759 a half links at odds of sixteen to one. Pletcher then targeted the Holy 356 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.640 for his return. He was bounced around at the start. He was three 357 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:08.480 wide for most of the trip and could not catch up, finishing third. 358 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:15.079 The Holy Bull left some question about fierceness and his Kentucky Derby and Triple Crown 359 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:21.680 stature, but that was quickly answered with that performance in the Florida Derby. 360 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:23.640 Yeah, we thought he'd run well, but you know, it's harder for 361 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:29.359 jack us. You know, you wan win a Grade one Florida Derby by 362 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.359 over thirteen nights. He just that very often. Todd Pletcher has a record 363 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.920 sixty four starters in the Kentucky Derby. He's won it with Super Savor in 364 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:44.880 twenty ten and Always Dreaming in twenty seventeen. John Velasquez has won three Kentucky 365 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:49.559 Derby's. Mike Ropoli is OH four to seven. His best finish mcdonegall a 366 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:56.160 fifth place finish in twenty twenty two. Last year, Ripoli and Pletcher they 367 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:02.640 had the favorite for the Kentucky Derby fourteen, who was scratched the morning of 368 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:07.960 the race. The Connections have the favorite this year and Pledger believes they've got 369 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.720 the Kentucky Derby winner. You know, students kind of grow through the course 370 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.400 of the winner in the spring and has become a lady sort, but I 371 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.559 think still filling into his frame, and it's just kind of scary to think 372 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:26.440 that there might be some improvement there. So that's right. Coffee and Company 373 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.119 here on Sports Talk seven ninety we are field aout Thornton's. Make sure you 374 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.839 sign up to become a member of the Thornton's Refreshman Awards program if you haven't 375 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.920 already. You'll save money every time you get gas and you could take advantage 376 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:41.000 of all the perks that come with being a member. So again, refreshing 377 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.240 Awards dot com or download the app and you'll be happy that you did. 378 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.799 All right, So I don't I mean, just from a couple of texts 379 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.160 coming on the text line, I'm not gonna act as if that represents anything 380 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:55.599 other than, you know, just those two players. But you know, 381 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.720 some are saying, you know that maybe Kelsey feels like he's got his team 382 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.039 and and he's just going to add pieces here, and no, no, 383 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:07.720 I mean, I just because there's not a you know, a list of 384 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.759 eight players with scheduled visits doesn't mean that they're not active in the portal trying 385 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.839 to you know, trying to find players to come in and fill out the 386 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.960 roster, get this thing turned around, and we only have a couple of 387 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:22.880 days left before the portal closes, and you never know, there may be 388 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.720 some names that end up entering the portal that you would have never expected. 389 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:30.960 I doubt that's the case. I feel like by now they would already be 390 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.319 there, but again, you never know they have until they have until the 391 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:40.160 first so we shall see. And then there's some players out there that I've 392 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:47.680 not heard Louisville. I've not heard Louisville, you know, be involved with 393 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:51.799 as far as like listed as the team to beat. But that doesn't mean 394 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:56.079 that there's not some conversations taking place that could you know, could make it 395 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.359 to where within a couple of days we see okay visits or line up for 396 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.359 this player and Louisville is going to get one. I mean, just because 397 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.279 it's quiet doesn't mean there's not you know, work going on behind the scenes. 398 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.720 And I think everybody knows that. But this whole process has just been 399 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.759 different for fans because we've never been in this position where you're building an entire 400 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.759 new team, and I think we got a little spoiled with how it all 401 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.319 came. I mean, there's a two week period there where every few days 402 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.079 you were getting a player. And I still believe that everybody they've added up 403 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.920 to this point is a good addition. Obviously, some are going to bring 404 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.720 a little more value than others, and it may not be because they're just 405 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:36.000 that talented. It maybe because they have a specific thing that they bring to 406 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:37.240 the table. You know, for example, Chuckie Hepburn, that's a guy 407 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.119 who can run your team. He's a leader, he's a point guard that 408 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.599 can distribute, can score, but he doesn't really look to do it a 409 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.880 whole lot. So you know, that's somebody who was a huge addition. 410 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.680 And then elsewhere, I mean I think Trey Orr was a big addition as 411 00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:00.440 well. You know Coran Johnson, a super silky smooth combo guard. They 412 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.799 can score it, can shoot it. And then you've got a mister do 413 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.960 it all. And Javon Hadley from Colorado. And then obviously the first commitment 414 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.160 was Terrence Edwards Junior that I don't think anybody forgets about him, but you 415 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.640 know, he committed early, really before this whole thing got started, and 416 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.880 that has led to him just not being as not being mentioned as much. 417 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.279 But at the end of the day, he could end up being the best 418 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:22.680 player on this team, even if you go at other good players, because 419 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:27.599 that's how good he is. You always always wonder how production is going to 420 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:33.119 translate from you know, a different conference. But I would say that history 421 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.200 has shown that just because a guy you know didn't play in an elite league 422 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.440 and maybe he didn't put up like gaudy numbers, you can still transfer. 423 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.359 I mean, there's some guys whose numbers get better at their new school despite 424 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.759 it being at a higher level, and it's because they benefit from playing with 425 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.440 other really good players. You just never know. But one name that I 426 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.319 think we can now at least throw out there to keep an eye on, 427 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:02.200 because the one, the only mister Trillia Donovan put this out earlier today that 428 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.920 davey On Smith is somebody Louisville is maybe going to make a run out. 429 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.000 For those who aren't familiar with davey On Smith, he was actually, I 430 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:15.480 think set to visit Kentucky this past weekend, and I think his situation was 431 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.480 one where credits were an issue to where he couldn't he wouldn't have been able 432 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:19.519 to get into school there. I don't know that for sure, but his 433 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.559 visit got canceled, and I don't know of any others. I mean, 434 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.839 I'm sure there's other schools involved that has haven't been following his recruitment that closely. 435 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.519 But you know, this is a guy who put up big numbers at 436 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.000 Utah as a point guard. I mean, listen to this stat line in 437 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:38.920 twenty nine minutes a game, thirteen points, seven assists, and six rebounds, 438 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.799 shooting roughly fifty percent from the floor. I mean, that's pretty impressive. 439 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.960 So you know, if Trillie Donovan says Louisville's involved, I believe Louis's 440 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.279 involved now where they stand, no clue competition for him not sure. I'm 441 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.640 sure we can look into it, but you know, he may pack twelve 442 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:02.240 history. I'm reading here from the All Youth's website, part of the SI 443 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.160 platform. Yes, says history has been made in the final year of the 444 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.400 PAC twelve as Utah guard davey On Smith broke the conference legend Jason Kidds thirty 445 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.720 year grasp on a single season triple double record. So yeah, he had 446 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.079 his fifth triple double towards the end of the season, which broke jason Kids 447 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.160 records. So yeah, if louivll can't get it on this guy. That'd 448 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.559 be phenomenal. But again, that's uh, you know, that's that's that's 449 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.880 that's from Trillie Donovan. So and I don't say that to say that like 450 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.920 you know that means it's not true because he's been super accurate. It's just, 451 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.240 you know, could be Louisvill could be one of twenty schools involved here. 452 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:38.640 And I don't want to get anybody's hopes up, but you know, 453 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.920 he would be a big addition. I think front court play is probably something 454 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.759 I mean, I know, look, I know that they're aware that they 455 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.079 need to go add some more guys in the front court, and they will. 456 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.839 But if you could potentially add another guard like this, I think you 457 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.000 would go do it. I mean you'd be you know, you'd be foolish, 458 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.480 you'd be foolish not to. And let me see here is there I 459 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.839 think they're you know, let me just double check here because there's yeah. 460 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.880 So I told this kid I thought the name was familiar, but I did 461 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.640 not. I would have never guessed that he had this type of an explosive 462 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.160 breakout year. So Daveon Smith is a guy Louisville recruited years ago. I 463 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.359 remember when Chris Mack was here, he came in for a visit. He 464 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.720 started his career at Mississippi State, averaged five points as a freshman, you 465 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:27.079 know, not super productive. And then he plays two seasons at Georgia Tech, 466 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.440 where he averaged five points sophomore year. Junior year he averaged a just 467 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:33.960 kind of you know, a role player at best. Then he goes to 468 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:40.920 Utah and was sensational. So but he could be somebody that you have to 469 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.000 you know, when you consider Mississippi State, Georgia Tech, and then Utah, 470 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.480 that's three schools in four years. Could be a credit issue. But 471 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:49.720 he is at least familiar with Louisville because I know he visited. I think 472 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:55.480 Mike Pigez hosted him on his visit many years ago, which I thought that 473 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:56.480 might be the same guy. But I'm thinking no way, And then sure 474 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.920 enough you look at his ESPN page and it shows a statum from those other 475 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.920 schools. By the way, speaking of Trilli Donovan, you know he got 476 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:10.240 Louisville and Quaintan's wrong, Like he predicted that put his name on it and 477 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:15.200 it was wrong, and that happens. But in the portal. This dude 478 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:21.240 has been sensational as far as predicting where guys are gonna end up going. 479 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.279 So he saves his receipts here, and you know, I think that's important. 480 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.400 And that's why last week, you know, it still just sounds silly, 481 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.160 doesn't it, John to credit somebody named Trilly Donovan we know is not 482 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:34.599 a really human I mean, there's a really human behind it, but you 483 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.240 know, it just seems odd as you know, well, it's Trillly Donovan, 484 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.920 so it must be true. But I think you kind of have to 485 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.000 do that. And that's why as much as him being anonymous does give you 486 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.359 the ability to kind of like never really have to own something if you're wrong 487 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.519 or if you're you know, way off or something like that, but I 488 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.680 think he knows that he's got a better chance of continuing to build this brand 489 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.680 of being this newsbreaker in college basketball if he is if he's accurate, and 490 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:04.119 he is is spot on, and so far in the Portal cycle, he 491 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.599 has only been wrong. And when I say wrong, I mean he'll update 492 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.240 you throughout the recruitment on you know, of players, He'll give you his 493 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.240 thoughts. But then when he's ready to tell you where he thinks they're going 494 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.279 to go. He'll put it in a separate part of his discord, like 495 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:24.119 you know, in his intel, like Trilly's intel or something. And he's 496 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.039 gotten everyone right but two and they just happen to be UK and U L 497 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.119 players, So that's interesting. Yeah, the only two that he got wrong 498 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:36.440 was Jaden Quainton's Louisville. He's picked Louislle. He went Arizona State, and 499 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.079 then also Richie Saunders he picked UK. He decided to go back to BYU. 500 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.559 If you look at and he posted this on his Twitter, I mean 501 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:47.720 sky Clark to UCLA, Brison Tuckert Indiana. I mean, I mean just 502 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.720 go look at it, and it's it's verified to I mean he is now 503 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.119 like it's yeah, let's see here. He has one hundred and one of 504 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:04.079 the one hundred and three portal decisions like predictions correct. That's ninety eight percent. 505 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.599 And there are six penning that he's already you know, picked and they 506 00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.400 just haven't happened yet. So he's not picking everybody. But you know, 507 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.599 these are guys who were transferring from either a major program or you know, 508 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.319 high major to a different high major or transferred from a mid major up to 509 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:22.160 a high major. I mean it's it's pretty impressive. In fact, it's 510 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.720 very impressive. So uh, you know, we'll see I haven't seen any 511 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:32.960 prediction for him with Davion Smith, but if he happened to predict that's where 512 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.039 he ends up, I think we're safe in assuming that that's where he's gonna 513 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:38.759 end up. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other 514 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.960 side. Wrap this thing up. It's coffee and company. We are philbuth 515 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.480 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, so we're gonna give 516 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:51.680 you once again another Derby profile courtesy of the one the only mister Jodi Demmling, 517 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.960 who does a great job each year of not only you know, helping 518 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:58.200 us out, but just doing a great job covering Derby for a variety of 519 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:04.599 folks including us here at or at Louisville. And he gives us each horse 520 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:08.559 about a two to three minute clip production. I should say that tells you, 521 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.719 you know, some key facts about each of these horses. And I 522 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.280 know over the years some have said that, you know, hearing and learning 523 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.000 about these horses has helped them make their decisions. So we'll let you hear 524 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.320 each of these throughout the week before we get to the race on Saturday, 525 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.559 and who we have next? Just a Touch, Just a Touch, Let's 526 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:30.880 hear it now, look at the Kentucky Derby field one by one. Just 527 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.199 a Touch, one of the true buzz horses of this year's Kentucky Derby comes 528 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:42.440 out of the barn of trainer Brad Cox. Just a Touch has not won 529 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.280 a race since breaking his maiden in late January, but still a horse that 530 00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.639 a lot of people are talking about, a horse that a lot of railbirds 531 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.880 are saying you gotta pay attention to after second place finishes in the Gotham Steaks 532 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:02.000 and the Bluegrass Steaks. The base one of Triple Crown winner Justify. Just 533 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:07.000 a Touch is trained by Brad Cox, will be written by Florent Jeru, 534 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.079 the owners Guitar Racing, Resolute Racing, and Mark dan Pell. Just to 535 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.000 Touch did not start as a two year old, the same as his sire 536 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:22.800 Justified. His first race on January twenty sixth a four and a quarter length 537 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:30.159 victory in impressive fashion at the Fairgrounds. Cox then shipped Just a Touch to 538 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:36.679 Aqueduct, where he ran second to deterministic losing by two links in the slop 539 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.920 in the Gotham Stakes on March second, coming out of the Gotham Steaks as 540 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:46.360 the beaten favorite, Cox decided to take just a touch to the Bluegrass Steaks, 541 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:51.880 where he ran second to Sierra leone thirty seven, close to a hot 542 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.880 pace there in the Bluegrass, finished up well, galloped out well. He 543 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.880 got a very good horse and hopefully we can turn the tables on that cult. 544 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.880 Very touch has been in the sales ring three times. He brought three 545 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:08.199 hundred thousand dollars at the Akaala Breeders Spring Sale two year olds in training. 546 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:15.000 Cox knows just the touch is facing the best field he's ever seen. But 547 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:20.760 it would not shock the trainer if just a touch one the Kentucky Derby. 548 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.000 He's another one that's now. Physically he looks amazing. He's moving great, 549 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.239 he's got tremendous drade. He's a big horse. He's glad to get them 550 00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.280 out on a quarter you know, and lightly race. So we're open and 551 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:37.280 invests are the company, all right. Let's stick with the the Derby theme 552 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.480 here as we wrap up the show. Just a couple of minutes left, 553 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.559 but we've been looking at the Barnstable Brown Party List, the celebrities that have 554 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.320 rsvp'ed, and it's just fun to see all these celebrities that are coming to 555 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.880 town. But also what makes it fun is that there's a lot there's celebrities 556 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.920 that I'm not questioning if in fact they're truly celebrities or if they're worthy, 557 00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.079 because just because I mean, I know who they are, doesn't mean that 558 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:01.440 they're not potentially super famous. Right, there's certain I mean, I'm pretty 559 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.360 disconnected with like the TMZ world as far as who's really famous. So like 560 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:07.239 the people that are famous to be there, people who are I guess in 561 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.280 sports because you know, like that's that's my lane, That's what I'm interested 562 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.480 in. But let's uh, Tina Knowles. Do you know who that is? 563 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.119 Tina Knowles. I bet she's an actress. Yeah, I'm gonna say 564 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.119 something in the entertainment world music acting. But I'm also gonna guess that she 565 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:29.239 could be related to Beyonce. Maybe she is related to Beyonce. Boom? 566 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.960 Is she just coming by herself? Like what about you know? I mean, 567 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.000 what about I don't know her? So it's Beyonce's mother? Looks like 568 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.360 yeah, so Beyonce's mother is I mean she is she bringing her husband? 569 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.199 You know, there's he still around. I don't. I don't know much 570 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.480 about the Noles family, but I know that's that's a lucky guess because the 571 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:51.480 last name Knowles being a celebrity, I just assumed that it was somebody related 572 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.440 to Beyonce Knowles, not you know, Preston Noles who played at Louisville many 573 00:37:53.519 --> 00:38:00.440 years ago. All right, let's see what about where are we the list 574 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.519 here? Clay Walker, he's a country sting. Of course, clay Walker 575 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.360 is a legend. She won't be lonely long love love me some clay Walker 576 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.800 just I mean, you could he had. He had a catalog in the 577 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.199 nineties, early two thousands that I still don't think it gets the credit that 578 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.920 it deserves. In fact, clay Walker played a concert here at four Street 579 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.639 Derby Week many years ago. I went with my friends, uh and it 580 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.559 was awesome. But I have a very memorable story from that. We were 581 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.320 in you know, we were up close. There's a lot of people there 582 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:30.519 too, by the way, which four Street is going to be packed this 583 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.280 week because there's a lot of people in town. Downtown Louisville, and you 584 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.800 know, there's a lot going on here. I think they've got some concerts 585 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.639 scheduled. But we were close and like, you know, clay Walker, 586 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:42.480 he's a showman, John, Like he really wants to play into the crowd, 587 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.400 right, Like he wants you singing alongage press. Yeah, he wants 588 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.559 you engaged, right, he wants the crowd working with the same energy he's 589 00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:53.280 working with. And he kept throwing guitar picks. I mean, just thinking 590 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.079 that every person there was just dying to say they were able to catch a 591 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.679 guitar pick from Clay Walker. I mean, and at one point, you 592 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.719 know where we were sitting like we were getting showered with him, and I'm 593 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.519 thinking, like, all right, buddy, we got it, Like we 594 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.840 got enough for everybody, Like you can stop throwing the guitar picks. They're 595 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.559 raining on us. You know, we're trying to enjoy them, you know, 596 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.760 just throwing guitar picks like you know, like they were collectors items. 597 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.079 But love klay Walker. Glad to hear he's gonna be in Louisville, which 598 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.760 he was playing somewhere. We're only like forty percent of the list, John, 599 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:22.679 so we'll all ready for more. We'll get back at it tomorrow. 600 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.119 Everybody, have a good night. Enjoyed it every week. Let's talk to 601 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.000 you tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety