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Welcome to The Derek louder Milk Show. This is episode four hundred and three

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with Peter Benson. Peter Benson is
the creator of Energies of Service, which

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are high tech, spiritual and metaphysical
tools, and in this episode, we're

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going to learn about how he makes
them using something called tensor ring. So

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we'll learn about that technology, it's
actually an ancient technology that was rediscovered,

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and about how they work and the
precision that goes into creating these they're relatively

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simple instruments devices, but it's fascinating
to hear his process for how he discovered

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these tools and started creating them.
And I have to tell you that he

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sent me one of these pendants before
the interview, and I got to use

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it a little bit before the interview, but I'm recording this intro several weeks

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after the interview, and that pendant
that he sent me, which is the

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Archangel Michael pendant, actually is probably
my favorite thing to wear at this point.

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It feels really amazing to wear it. So I'm actually a fan of

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the technology, and I wanted to
have him on the show because he has

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such a similar path to me,
you know, coming from a technical scientific

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background, discovering spiritual and metaphysical aspects, and then going about creating practical,

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useful tools a way that we can
bring this into our everyday lives in a

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way that is uplifting and gives us
more power and energy and abilities to help

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and serve in this lifetime. So, without further ado, here is Peter

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Benson. Peter Benson, Welcome to
this show. Oh thanks for having me,

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Derek. It's an honor, thank
you, thank you, thank you

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for sending along this beautiful pendant,
the spiritual tool. For those of you

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just listening, it's it's a necklace
that I'm wearing right now and there's two

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copper tensor rings and a bunch of
crystals inside of it. So let me

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just start by asking what is a
tensor ring. A tensor ring is actually

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a copper wire that's braised back onto
itself. But it is actually, in

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its own native form, a single
wire positive side on one and negative on

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any other. Slim spurlingh basically took
that one long wire, folded it over

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and created and then twisted it and
cut it to the length and then braised

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it back onto itself. This actually
created the actual tensor ring that the name

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came from because Slim Spurlling coined that
name to it back in the early to

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mid nineties. Okay, so it's
a single piece of copper twisted and made

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into a circle. I'm guessing from
the word tensor that there has to be

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some sort of tension to it,
or where does the name come from.

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What they actually looked at was it
actually creates a toroidal energy field, and

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Slim Sprillian called it a tensor field
or tensor energy. He also coined it

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as this. You could name it
chi prana, you know, life force,

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you could call it, he said, you'd call it pretty much anything

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you wanted to. He called it
tensor and that's that's the way it's been

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since the inception of it, because
he brought us back into our knowledge frame

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because I feel like this is so
old as far as it's it's understanding.

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It's fairly simple, you know,
just cover. So why does it when

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you make it from a wire into
a ring, why does it create these

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properties? Well, for the one
piece it's the actual John Archiball Wheeler nineteen

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fifty seven discovered that when you take
a solid wire and then you know solder

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braize, well, however you want
to join it into a into a ring,

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it created an energy field. So
this was the energy field that was

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rediscovered. Sorry about that, Uh, we discovered back in nineteen fifty seven

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that he figured was something of interest
that they couldn't do anything with. So

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this was He was a nuclear physicist
on the Manhattan Project, so he was

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more of a real heavy hitter,
and that are aspect he actually was one.

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He was the one that coined the
term black hole when it came to

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astrophysics, so he was quite prominent
in the nuclear and energy fields. But

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what was fun was this was shelved
up until some spurling and some spurlling basically

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found this, and then what happened
was you turned that single ring into a

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double ring, using the same wire
but folding it over, twisting it,

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cutting it to the specific links.
The energy field comes from the actual length.

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So if you think about wave length, when you're turning in like a

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radio dial, you're looking, you're
you're turning the frequencies, and you're going

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from like eighty eight megaherts to one
hundred and seven megaherts, So somewhere in

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that range you're going to get a
different frequency along the way. So the

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tensor rings that we make the pendent
that you're wearing right now, which is

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arch Angel Michael, that one is
the Lost Cubit. That one actually works

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on the emotional heart, higher heart, etheric body. So that one was

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one that was actually discovered through slim
Spurling as well. So these tools,

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there are many different frequencies that are
actually available different We've been assigning them to

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more chakras, so root chakra,
sacral solar plexus, heart throat, dirt,

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eye, crown chakra, star chakra. So all the different tensor links

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create different vibrations and they work in
different ways. Okay, cool, and

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are you measuring the Hurtz vibration somehow? The actual hurts vibration was the empowerment

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was measured at one hundred and seventy
megahertz. The lost Cubit, I'm not

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sure what that one was measured at, but the one that slim Spurling was

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working in was a sacred and that
one resonated a one hundred and forty four

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megahurts. So I don't have anything
at this point to actually measure it accurately

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or its residents. There are a
few of them that to have them measured.

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Gotcha, Okay, who is Slim
Spurling and what's your relationship with him?

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Slim Spurling was the gentleman. He's
a he's he's past now. But

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back in the early nineties he discovered
this under this technology, and he was

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more of a jack of all trades. He was, you know, ex

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navy, retired Navy, and he
was working with a friend of his who

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was more more of a physicist,
and they were experimenting, and he was

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more of a hands on kind of
like an engineering technician, more of like

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a guy behind, you know,
in my own nature right here, because

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I'm gonna you know, an engineering
technician. So he would actually go in

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and it's like, okay, why
does this work? Okay, if we

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do this, well, this work
better and stuff like that. So he

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kind of just tinkered with it and
until it worked. So he did did

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this work on these tensor rings,
and he actually submitted him to two separate

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labs. One was at Lockheed Martin
and there was another one in Germany,

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I believe, and they were both
tested out as extremely powerful tools. They

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didn't know how to fully utilize the
energy, but they could actually measure the

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frequency ranges which were they found one
hundred and forty four megahertz and it was

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validated in two separate labs that these
that the energy field is there. Okay,

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so I'm guessing it they're measuring it
somehow, like in the electromagnetic spectrum.

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Yeah, yep, and it could
you tell me? Because he's referring

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to chi or life force energy,
and then we're also talking about electromagnetic spectrum.

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What is actually the mechanism that creates
the field? Is it possible to

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understand that if you look at the
way that it's built. So it's a

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wire, we grab one here,
it's like put on screen, Okay,

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so if you look at this,
we'll get it a little bit further out

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here. So that's actually a tensor
ring, right, So the energy field

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only turns on when the wires are
braised back onto itself, and they have

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to be a specific length to actually
tune into that frequency. If it's off,

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you're going to have a frequency that's
not right. And you know,

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experiments and stuff like that. I've
done different links and some of them just

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don't work. So it's one of
those things. The way that you can

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understand it is curly in photography,
the high voltage photography. If you actually

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use one of those cameras to image
a tensor ring, you can actually see

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the energy coming off of it.
Our videos on the web showing this,

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and it's actually pretty impressive. What
we have found that these create is actually

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a double torus, dual direction trusts
the positive energy going on both directions.

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So it's a doughnut energy field,
a toroidal field, right, So is

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energy being projected out of both sides
of this and you can feel it.

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Yeah, And then when you say
some of them don't work, that means

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the toro the field is not being
created for some reason. Well, when

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I'm experimenting, it's like we'll get
a I'll get a thought, let's just

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let's see if this frequency or this
this measurement will work, and what would

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have come out to be. And
I've experimented with a few of them and

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one of them was completely nothing there, you know, when the first one

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that I had to download for was
actually the star chakra and that one is

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extremely powerful. So when I get
the download for one, I just create

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it and see what happens. And
sometimes it just don't work, and you're

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going more by like you, you
try to use it, and you can

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tell whether it's working based on your
intention. No, it's their intention controlled.

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Yes, you can feel them from
the energy to this the field,

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just the energies of that. They
produce their native energies once once you understand

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their native energies, and you have
to figure out what their uses are at

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that point. Okay, that's the
star chakra, Believe it or not,

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it's the one that's right here.
But it actually is very grounding, so

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it kind of keeps you. It's
like, okay, if you think about

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it, it's actually a very perfect
name for it. We're here our star

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chakras connecting us to our higher self. But we're here we're incarnate to do

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stuff. So this actually allows you
to stay grounded here but also opens your

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connection to your higher self. So
it's kind of an interesting way of looking

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at it. Okay, interesting you
know personally, I come over with a

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scientific background and I do a lot
of experiments, and so that's part of

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this is intriguing to me, is
like you you've got some insight from Slim

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Spurling's work, and you can go
on YouTube and look up you know,

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how to make a tensor ring and
someone will show you you can twist the

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wires, so it's it's pretty accessible
and you've you've started to do your own

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experiments. You're creating your own you
know, new sizes and jewelry, and

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you're getting guidance. So I'm I'm
really just fascinated and want to explore this

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process for not just how you came
into doing this work, but how you're

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continuing to move forward into the unknown
territory. Right. So, yes,

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so some Spurling and you, like
you said, some Spilling has all these

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videos out there hiding his books.
They explain everything on how it works,

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and he open sourced the entire idea
of how these are made. In the

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process, so the tensor ring itself
creates, like we just mentioned a torus

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energy field coming you know, both
directions off the ring, but if you

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actually look in the middle, there's
actually a field of energy in the middle,

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and it's actually like a soap like
when you're blowing bubbles, the soap

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film inside the plastic ring. When
you're blowing it, it's like having an

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energy film inside of here. So
that's what makes this pendant extremely powerful.

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And Slim Spurling was using bigger,
big tensor rings and smaller rings like but

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this big, and he would actually
run it up people's arms and actually heal

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broken bones and heal other damage to
a carpal tunnel and other things like that.

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And he has all kinds of I
don't know if you want to call

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it anecdotal, but reports from clients
that have actually utilized these tools and the

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healing from them. So understanding that
the tool, the tensor rings create that

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projection energy, they also you know, create that film energy, So it's

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projecting the crystal energy to you,
but it's also connecting with the crystals inside

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that pendant. So that field in
the middle is connecting to those crystals.

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The projection is after it's connecting and
blowing, it's basically pushing that energy from

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the crystals into you and projecting outwards. So that's the that's how these tools

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work. So it's utilizing the tensor
to tensor field and the frequency of that

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tensor field. So we can modify
that by using different tensor rings with the

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different frequencies, and then you tune
it again by adding different crystals. Gotcha,

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And so the one you sent me
has nine or seven different crystals that

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has eight crystals in it that has
a shielding, so that one's emotion and

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that one actually gives you a energy
energetic protection field, so you're protected from

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other people's emotional energy these environmental energies. Going out in public places, you're

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not going to be overwhelmed by other
people. Like when you grow in grocery

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shopping and you're bombarded by one hundred
people in the same store, right,

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you kind of feel overwhelmed at times. I say, usually a big box

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store. You're going in there,
there's two hundred people in the same big

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room as you, and it just
kind of gets stressful. That'll actually help

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protect you from that. But you
also in the archangel Michael have the turquoise,

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which is very calming, the selenite, which is also very cleansing of

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a crystal, and then you have
green mica, which is emotional healing and

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kind of an energy of rebirth and
rejuvenation. And so you also have a

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smaller ring within the larger ring independent
So that's like you've got the film and

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that ring sits in that inner part
of the film. Yeah, what's how

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are they interacting? Well, there's
a second lost Cuba in the middle that's

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a smaller version. It's an octave
that's literally one octave smaller. Okay,

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so that's you. It's actually it's
so they resonate at octaves, So if

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you have one or half or one
and a half, it's all an octave

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of it, as long as you
keep the same length. But as long

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as you're octave of it will actually
continue to work in that frequency. So

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what's the benefit of having two different
octaves? That one is just just a

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look of it, and I like
having the different that this smaller ring inside

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of that one, and it actually
highlights whatever crystal you put into it.

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Gotcha. So the Michael has a
selenite, so you're actually amplifying selenite on

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its own in there for cleansing.
But you also have the other crystals that

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are actually in the larger ring doing
all the other work as well. Okay.

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Cool. So, and they're set
within a resin type material, which

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reminds me of oregone pyramids. Does
the resin itself have any function? The

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resin is it's it does give it
a little bit of a compression. Typical

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resins do shrink a little bit and
they actually give a little pressure onto the

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crystals, and you give crystals under
pressure, you get more energy out of

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them. But it's also there to
keep everything stable within the tensor rings,

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and it also holds I put some
glowpowder in there to actually have a little

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more fun with the pendants. I'm
sure you've noticed if you wear it outside

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or come inside at night, and
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in place, and it's I was. When I was initially trying to get

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these working. I was actually doing
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rings with the first couple of pendants
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though those worked really well. But
what happened is I got that down from

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Archangel Metatron and it said, okay, you need to make anklets. So

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I made the anklets, and then
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wearing them and she couldn't wear them
anymore. Her husband gave her too much

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crap for doing too much of the
wu Wu stuff. And I was okay,

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since I got the download from Metatron
for the anklets, Okay, it's

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like, okay, guys, how
do I make this work so that anybody

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could wear one? And nobody would
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nobody's really going to look at it. It's like, oh, it's

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just a necklace or whatever it is, and nobody really thinks about it.

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this work. So that nobody would
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tool or anything was really out of
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innocuous to people that are about doing
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you've noticed when you go out into
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out people that are kind of awake
and aware, we'll see it and they'll

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stare at it and go what is
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energy when people when people are more
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it and go like, wow,
what is that? You know? Where

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can I get one kind of thing? And I see it all the time,

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and I hear a lot of reports
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the time too. Yeah I haven't. We'ren this to the grocery store and

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I you're reminding me that I need
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the last year or so, I've
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Ah, it's like, what's been
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must have picked up it feels like
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I was like, is there something
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or what's going on? Or maybe
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an electric battery, and I'm like, am I feeling the battery of the

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car? So yeah, I just
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what we found was the energy of
and you'll figure this out and you'll see

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it when you actually go to the
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energy. What happens is when people
have like, oh, I got to

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go grocery shopping, people tend to
get into autopilot and they'll end it do

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you know this? I got my
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to what they're doing and they're going
through their mind and they're processing what they've

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been through for today, and they're
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do this. I got to go. Either they're really stressed on time,

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or they're dealing with you know,
family, or they're dealing with whatever it

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is, but their energy will be
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so you'll find and you'll feel stress, You'll feel like rush, You'll

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feel you know, frustration or anger
or whatever it is from people just going

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through the grocery store because they're not
necessarily there to do you know, their

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grocer they're doing grocery store stuff,
but they're energetically not there. So when

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you're wearing a protection, you know, when you're wearing protection, you won't

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feel that energy. Yeah, for
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knees when I went into a costco
when you have you know, so many

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people in the same room and be
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I got to get out right.
So what was the what was the circumstances

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of your life when you first discovered
tensor rings? And maybe you could walk

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me through, like why you felt
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Let's say I was an engineering technician
working for a large corporation and having a

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very large life change in the middle
of all this going on, and I

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was trying to figure out who I
was again, and I was reading Michael

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Newton, you know, Journey of
the Soul. Brian Weiss also the same

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regressionist type stuff, and then Dolorous
Cannon's books, So a lot of this

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stuff was talking about either regressing somebody
to a past life or their soul journey

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or some of the other stuff that
goes on. Especially with the Dolores Canna

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stuff was amazing, and I'm like, Okay, this is really interesting.

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We are far more than we understand. And then I come across as I'm

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continuing going through these books, I
come across some spurling and all the claims

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he had as we talked about some
of the anecdotal evidence that he was talking

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about in some of his interview videos. So I got his books and I

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read his books and it was really
interesting. So I'm like, okay,

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and it's open source and he explains
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The thing is, I wasn't in
the right place when I first started making

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them, so the tools I was
making weren't really energetic at the time.

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So I actually had to become more
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intention had to be in the right
place while I was actually making them and

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not just trying to be a distraction
from what was going on. So it

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took a little bit. Then I
started making them that were actually very energetic,

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very powerful. And when I found
out they were really functioning, I

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made four of them and they were
about probably ten inch diameter, so they

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were decent size. And I was
going to a sound bath every two weeks

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at the time, and I let
the lady was actually doing it. I

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said, here, have these four
and check them out. See how they

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work with the singing bowls. Because
she was doing you know, she had

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the chakras and you know, the
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she had the fourteen different balls,
she was playing with them. Two days

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later she texted me back, so
can I get ten more? Because it

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changed the way the crystal bulls literally
sang, the way they sounded, the

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way they resonated, so they would
resonate longer, they got louder, and

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the energy of it, they kind
of like more of a nuanced, better

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sound coming out of the bulls.
So it was on top of the ring.

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and it's in that. If you're
thinking about the way that taurus field creates,

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it's like an energy field that goes
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of energy coming up through the bowl. So the bull is sitting in that

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calumn of energy and it definitely shifts
the way the ball plays. So with

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you mentioned Dolores Cannon and then you
know this past life information, was there

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something in there that like queued you
into tensor rings or or you know,

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where's the connection there? The connection
was it was I was looking at how

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the past lives and the life between
lives and the energy and understanding that with

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those books, and when I started
going through the you know, slim spurling

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information, it was like, okay, so this is more of like a

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energy healing tool, energies that are
kind of nuanced, and I'm like,

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okay, let's check it out.
The reason the connection came from because I

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was a mechanic for fifteen years,
so utilizing working with metals and torches and

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doing all this other stuff, and
then working as an engineering technician use you

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know, documenting your your specific lengths
and documentation and very detail oriented. So

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between being a mechanic and an engineer
and I'm like, okay, so I

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can do this. I'm like,
okay, let's just see. God became

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a challenge. Can I make these
things work? Right? So I started

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making them and they actually did start
working eventually. I took a little bit,

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but they did. And were you
saying that the creator of the ring

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has to be in the right mental
emotionals space, like they won't work if

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the person is out of balance somehow
you have to be more if you have

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to be in you don't have to
be one hundred percent like you know,

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you know what do you want to
call it high vibration? You just have

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to be your intentions have to be
there, am I You know no,

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because when I was doing and when
I first started creating them, I was

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actually doing mantras when I was creating
them, and that's what really started bringing

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the energy in. Is like it
got my my intentions, It got my

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energy field more balanced, more centered, So yes, I would say more

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balanced. And you know it's the
intention And like we like we talked about

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earlier, is these are intention tools. So making sure your intentions why you're

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creating the intention tools is a big
thing. Gotcha? Okay? Do you

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do you have any awareness of your
past lives? Just through like flashes of

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information and it's like glimpses and they're
not very specific, and I'm not sure

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exactly what timeframes you know, I
know I was in France. I know

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I was in England multiple times,
Native American once or twice. You know,

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I've been here for a very long
time. So and energetically, I

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believe I was in order to understand
some of this technology. I believe I

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was in the Atlantean timeframe studying more
of energies and portals. That's what I

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was wondering about, if there is
any skill set that you're utilizing now that

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maybe you had in other lifetimes as
well. Yeah, I feel that this

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is more of a very very old
skill set that I haven't utilized in a

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long time. Interesting. Yeah,
and I think you said something about like

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Slim resurrected this technology or brought this
old technology. Is there reference or evidence

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of this being used in historical times? No, this is more of me

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understanding my past and like my lifetime's
back in like Atlantis timeframe, because I

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was studying portals at dimensional shifts,
because they were using portals to shift between

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dimensions so that you could actually just
walk through and move. So this type

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of stuff when I saw it,
and I was like, yeah, it's

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just more like more like a remembrance
of or an understanding that came back as

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everything we're doing right now seems to
be coming more of a spiritual nature,

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and the understandings are coming more of
downloads than just you know, learning.

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Do you think you could make a
portal that you could walk through by a

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big one of these? That's like
very reminds me of the Stargate movie,

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right, the big circle that you
stepped through. Yes. I was actually

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looking at possibly creating one, and
I had this this, this, you

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know, this download. I'm like, maybe I should gonna try making one

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of these. And it was based
off of I can't think of the guy's

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name. It was a Russian scientist
in the nineties that was also doing something

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with the aluminum mirrors. The spiral
the Fibonacci speaks, uh, sequenced spiral

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with the cause of rev mirror.
Yeah, yeah, that's the is in

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the healthy device. Yeah. If
you've seen the Healey device, so it's

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like a mirror that is like a
two way mirror like projects and receives yep.

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Okay, interesting, So I'm want
to put one of those inside.

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Okay, oh interesting. If you
made a portal that you could walk through

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to another place, would you go
through it in this particular lifetime. I

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doubt it. Right now, I'm
looking more at more of a etheric traveling.

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If we're going to do physical i'd
want to make sure i'd be going

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with my wife. Okay, you
mentioned her on your website as being influential

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in your whole journey. Here,
what's how does she fit into this picture?

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When when I first got involved with
Vivian, it was on my journey,

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I had started creating tools. I
had already been contacted and connected to

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archangel Metatron, and what we started
doing is I was going through healing and

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meditations and she was doing those meditations
and healing classes at the time, So

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we were I was working through a
bunch of stuff at the time and she

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was helping me do that. So
it was very instrumental on how I am

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now and how the path played out
from that timeframe. And she does she

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help guide the direction of your work
as well, not necessarily guide. I'll

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get the downloads for the tools and
I'll create them. What will happen is

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when I create them Sometimes because when
I'm when I'm in the shop making these

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things, I'm I'm surrounded by crystals
and tensor rings, and I am completely

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oversaturated by these energies, and I
won't be able to feel anything, and

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I'm like, hey, hone,
can you feel this? What is this

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doing? I won't be able to
feel it until I get myself away from

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all that energy. It's too loud
in there. Basically, energetic shop is

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extremely loud energetically, Yes, gotcha. So yeah, if you want to

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test a new one out yourself,
you make it and then you what do

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you have to walk away from it
for a while and then come back to

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it. I'd have to actually go
for a walk out in nature, get

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grounded, and then you know,
you bring it with me and just like

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leave it away from me for a
little bit and come back and feel.

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Sometimes some of the energies I'm not
sensitive enough to feel, but that doesn't

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mean they don't work. It just
means I'm not sensitive to them. Vivian

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is usually very sensitive to all the
tools, so I'll know exactly what they

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do. And then we have a
lot of not anecdotal, but reports back

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from clients and people we work with
and talk to it, especially at conferences,

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on how these tools feel and work
for them. Yeah, so I

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imagine like after you get them in
the hands of enough people. You start

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to see themes and patterns and notice
how people are using them. Is there

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anything that's been unexpected in terms of
how people are using these not necessarily unexpected

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per se, It's like what we
did find this, I guess this is

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a little bit more of a more
refined definition. Is we kind of knew

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there were intention based tools when we
were making them, but we didn't realize

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how powerful they were in intentions and
how much you could do with the intentions

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on these tools. So the understanding
on how powerful they can be by amplifying

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you and your intentions, that was
more of like, oh, I didn't

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realize that. That was kind of
wow. And we knew that from like

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years ago that when we were actually
we were going through Sedona and we were

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under energetic attack, basically, tell
the pendent, make us invisible, to

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make it out, do those do
us harm, and just all of a

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sudden the attack would stop. So
we knew that the intention based tool was

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there, but we didn't realize you
could do okay, set the intention on

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to okay, I want to this
is my goal, remove all obstacles that

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are not in my best interest,
or you know, do those kinds of

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intentions, you know, I don't
know. There's all kinds of different ways

407
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.239
you can do it. Like I
have the video I have out there,

408
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.559
it's like have fun with it,
enjoy you know, it's just like,

409
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:30.519
okay, what can I do today
in an intention to make my day,

410
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.079
you know, better, happier,
more joyful. Do you do? You

411
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:39.239
set your intention? You reset it
every day pretty much you don't have to.

412
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:46.159
What I would do is what I
tell people to do is if you're

413
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.000
doing a daily one, yes you
can. But what I have people doing

414
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.760
normally is it's like when you first
start getting a tool like this is you

415
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.119
get the tool, you reset it, and then you connect to it and

416
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.119
then tell it to go full power. If it's too much, you tell

417
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.519
it to go down to your comfort
level. And then from there what you

418
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.000
would do it's like, Okay,
I know I need to work on the

419
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:14.639
emotional trauma of this event, Okay, and you just get connect to it

420
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.719
and tell it's like I want to
remove you know, then you know all

421
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:22.320
the all the energy that's associated with
this event so that it no longer impacts

422
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.679
my life, and you just tell
it, you know, you know,

423
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.719
just think to it. Tell what
you want it to do. And what

424
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.719
you do is you just go through
you know, your day to day.

425
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.639
You know, maybe like a week
or two goes by, and you tell

426
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.039
it to you know, reset at
that point. And now if you were

427
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:44.679
triggered by that particular event or that
emotional trauma, you go for a week

428
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.840
or two without having that intention on
the pendent and see if you're still triggered.

429
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.880
So what you're doing is you're allowing
the pendent to do the work for

430
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.159
a week or two and then see
if it's actually cleared. Depending on how

431
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.480
deep and how hard, you know, how much of an impact it is

432
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.880
on your life, could you use
it for let's say you're trying to accomplish

433
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.400
something in the three D world.
Could you use it to say like bring

434
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:13.679
me better luck or bring me the
synchronicities to make this happen more quickly or

435
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.239
something like that. Yes, So
that one I would actually just say,

436
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:21.039
it's like, okay, tell it, this is my goal, remove anything

437
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:25.239
that is not my highest and greatest, and you know, path allow the

438
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:34.639
synchronous synchronicities to make this happen more
clear So utilizing positive intention or positive wording

439
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:39.599
into the intentions and making it happen. Yes, are you speaking the intention

440
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.840
out loud? Like are you talking
talking into it like a microphone? Or

441
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.920
how are you doing? You can
you can just think it. This is

442
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.039
the best part. It's like when
we're actually conferences I have people just tell

443
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.159
it. It's like, don't say
it out loud, just think it,

444
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.119
put it yoursk reset, go to
full power and just think it. Don't

445
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.760
tell me, don't say all out. And you wouldn't believe the grins I

446
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.719
get on people's faces when they all
of a sudden they were just thinking it,

447
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.000
and all of a sudden they can
feel the shift and the change by

448
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.000
a thought. This is a tool
that you can control with a thought,

449
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:21.840
which reminds me of when I hear
insiders talk about how UFOs are piloted.

450
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:28.679
They say that they're, you know, basically thought controlled consciousness control systems.

451
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.960
So you think, I want to
fly over there, and the craft just

452
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:37.199
goes over there. What do you
think about all the UFO stuff that's coming

453
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:45.960
out now? If I understand it
correctly, you have a lot of CIA

454
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:52.480
controlled people trying to steer the narrative
at the moment, and a lot of

455
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.840
people are buying into that kind of
narrative whenever you have somebody trying to tell

456
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.639
you, especially that well, we
may have to defend ourselves or you know,

457
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:08.960
it's just like okay, now in
a logical form, just think about

458
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:15.960
it. Logically. Now, if
you had an alien civilization that knows how

459
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.559
to get here from thirty thousand light
years, do you really think they're going

460
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:25.639
to be worried about our technology?
They can come in here and just lay

461
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.840
ways to it in a heartbeat.
So I'm not buying it that they'd have

462
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.400
to actually do any of these types
of things. And if they really,

463
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.599
if they were that kind of intent, of that kind of smart they would

464
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.239
actually why would they come to us
now in a nuclear age where we could

465
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:45.000
fire off some nukes? Why wouldn't
they have done it five hundred years ago

466
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:51.719
when we had you know, bows
and arrows and swords, I mean realistically,

467
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.880
So now I think we have we
do have some I think we have

468
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:00.840
some negative ets here that are utilizing
us as energy and siphoning off energy and

469
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:09.039
controls and stuff like that using fear, and we have positive entities and races

470
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.639
coming in here trying to steer us
in the right direction. So I think

471
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:19.079
some of the stories that you hear
on the positive and negative side. I

472
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:22.199
think some of those are actually true. But the new stuff coming out the

473
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:27.239
whole we're disclosing it in front of
Congress and stuff like that. And you

474
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.400
have this one guy, it's like, I would tell you, but we

475
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:34.079
can't. We'll have to do it
in a skiff. That's bullshit. You

476
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:40.519
think that's or a staged thing.
Yeah, totally controlled, Yeah, totally

477
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.519
controlled. That's that's CIA telling you. Yeah, we have information, but

478
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.639
we can't tell you. And we're
only doing this to steer a narrative.

479
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:53.880
And if you notice, the only
thing they're going to tell you is to

480
00:39:53.920 --> 00:40:00.519
bring a fear and nothing more.
So it's they're trying to control everybody on

481
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:07.039
one of those things. It's to
me, that's what it is. Yeah,

482
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.400
you know, I remember I think
I saw a clip of Slim.

483
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:15.800
He's like a cowboy looking fella.
He's like, a yeah, he's pretty

484
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.760
pretty unique getting character. But he's
saying, there's the clip I saw.

485
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.000
He was like, this is from
the nineties, and he was saying,

486
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:28.079
within twenty years, I think we
can clean up the climate, we can

487
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.440
clean up air pollution, and we'll
be living in sort of heaven on our

488
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:42.280
type of situation. Obviously we're not
there right now. But he seemed to

489
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:49.199
be so confident that his tensor ring
technology was going to cause these amazing changes.

490
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:58.159
So what is possible with this in
regards to pollution or climate or anything

491
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:05.639
like that. And why haven't we
utilized them? For one, if the

492
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.760
tool actually works, they would never
really utilize it, so people will have

493
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:13.519
to do it on their own.
And Slim what he wanted to do was

494
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:19.159
actually use his harmonizer, and if
you read his books, he talks about

495
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:23.559
this. It only covers a certain
radius of space in the atmosphere and it's

496
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.800
an atmospheric cleaner. It has nothing
to do with climate. It was all

497
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.199
to do with actually cleaning the negative
energies in particulate out of the atmosphere.

498
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.880
And this is what he was doing
in Denver. He was clearing out the

499
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.519
negative energies and the negative climate,
not climate, but negative what do I

500
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.440
call it? Oh? Good god? What was he doing? He was

501
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:52.119
actually using the tensor rings to neutralize
thunderstorm, so it's not necessarily climate,

502
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:58.239
but he was actually manipulating the weather
with it. Okay, so we could

503
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:05.800
use it during hurricane season any Yes, so you also have a government agencies

504
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:10.199
heating atmosphere to do that too.
So yeah, working across purposes. But

505
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.840
do you think like if a hurricane
was approaching shore in Florida, like a

506
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.000
few people who go out with tensor
rings and redirected, is that is that

507
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:23.840
what's possible? Or well we slim
Smelling was doing. Is he was actually

508
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:29.800
taking it and taking like the two
foot ones, two two foot diameter ones

509
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.800
and pointing it at clouds and he
would actually dissipate a cloud with it,

510
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.599
so it would dissipate the energy.
So I mean, I don't know how

511
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:42.000
powerful it would be to you know, going after a you know, the

512
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.559
storm of that size with one person
and a tense for ring, I don't

513
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.360
know. Don't you want to try
it? For me? I live in

514
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.559
the desert, so we don't get
a whole lot of that. What's the

515
00:42:53.599 --> 00:43:00.719
biggest ring you've you've had? I've
made a couple of the was it twenty

516
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:07.719
five footers five diameter? Yeah?
Diameter, the radius is about twenty five

517
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:15.519
so it's about seven approximately seven foot
diameter. Okay, pretty good size.

518
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:22.199
And what do you do with that
one? That one we utilize is to

519
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.840
absorb negative energies out of the ground
and projecting positive energy up into the atmosphere.

520
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.880
We use it in different areas.
Friend of ours actually has it in

521
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:37.159
their their labyrinth in the middle of
their labyrinth. Yeah, to heal the

522
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:45.519
land. Yeah. Agricultural applications are
there, Like there's a lot. We

523
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:51.000
were doing electroculture experiments, which is
also with copper wire, but you're just

524
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.440
sort of make an antenna and stick
it in the in the dirt. Is

525
00:43:53.480 --> 00:44:00.039
there anything with plants or growing you
can do with these did experiments with that,

526
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.800
and he was using his amplifier cut
that. No, the amplifiers.

527
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.360
I can't think of what I was
talking about. But he makes the specific

528
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.079
tool that actually he was working with
the clean up agriculture and you know,

529
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:25.320
larger scale, gotcha. Okay,
and you're you're going to focus on the

530
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:38.760
wearable Yeah, and you mentioned sort
of the latest iteration is the Chamuel pendant,

531
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:45.639
which is like a PTSD related pendant. Yeah, the archangel Shamuel.

532
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:51.039
That one is it has the same
eight crystals that the one that you're wearing

533
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.719
the Michael has, but it has
ten other crystals in it that are specifically

534
00:44:53.760 --> 00:45:00.679
designed to help alleviate the stress and
energies of trauma. So when you're wearing

535
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.800
it, it's very calming and clearing. So if somebody that you know would

536
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.239
have heavy stresses and traumas, and
you don't have to be military or first

537
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.079
responder or anything like that, if
you just have a lot of that in

538
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.239
your life, these are actually very
much of a positive impact to that.

539
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:21.559
And right now we're working on getting
these out to more and more people.

540
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.400
We've got them, We've actually have
I'm actually a Michael to a police officer

541
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:29.719
in a Massachusetts area, and we
have a couple of them here in our

542
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:37.679
area here for in the fire department. You know, I'm always looking at,

543
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:45.719
partly because of my scientific training,
looking at are there any experiments we

544
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:52.360
could run or is there like a
controlled study that we could do with these

545
00:45:52.360 --> 00:46:00.760
things to sort of say, well, how much effective PTSD could there be,

546
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:05.000
or could we like get enough people
to use them that there's like a

547
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:10.480
lot of people i think want some
sort of logical proof before they can get

548
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:16.280
started in something, and so yeah, I'm just curious if there's like any

549
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:22.920
studies that you would like to set
up or what. Yeah, what do

550
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.559
you think could get if they're effective
PTSD tools, like, what would it

551
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.599
take to get them in the hands
of more people. That's what I'm working

552
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:36.320
on now, trying to get connections. I'm working on connections with the Davy

553
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:42.480
Disabled American Vets have an email I
need to send out to the Garyusonese Foundation,

554
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.119
and I need to actually connect more
with our local people here as well

555
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.360
and see what we can do to
get these into the hands of those people.

556
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.480
I don't know about a study or
anything like that, but I have

557
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:58.440
a feeling if we can do something
with the Disabled American Vets and the Gariousnese

558
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.360
Foundation, they could probably do something
along that line, tracking the progress of

559
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.599
the individuals that they get to,
you know, get these tools to.

560
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:14.440
Yeah, you're you're reminded me of
Dawson Church. You're familiar with Dawson Church.

561
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:20.079
He was on the show a few
years ago. He he's the one

562
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:29.719
of the researchers who brought e FT
tapping to sort of public awareness and he

563
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.079
he wanted to have them start using
this in the VA hospital system and they

564
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.159
said it sounds like woo wooh,
no, thank you. So he set

565
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:46.280
up a foundation where he would teach, and I think he ended up teaching

566
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:52.239
it to like one hundred and fifty
thousand veterans through his private foundation, and

567
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:57.079
then they had spectacular results. And
then the VA said, okay, fine,

568
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:05.039
we will incorporate this into our you
know, protocol. And I think

569
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.239
eventually what they do now, it
sounds like, if I can recall from

570
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:15.599
the interview, these vets go into
the VA and during the case history type

571
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:20.800
phase when they're like you know,
just talking to the patient, they do

572
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.639
tapping, and with half of the
people they can just send them home,

573
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.960
like their symptoms go away and they
can just send them home. So it's

574
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:34.159
like reduced the caseload by half.
But he had to set that up himself.

575
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.679
I was so impressed, you know, he was like, it's needed.

576
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:42.000
I had to set up myself.
So maybe there's like, yeah,

577
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.079
you set up some sort of like
rental bank, you know, where you

578
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:52.000
can just like check these out to
people or something. Yeah. I just

579
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:58.960
watched the documentary on Gary Sonise and
you know, Lieutenant Dan the whole thing

580
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:04.800
about Forrest Gump and how he got
involved with the VA through his wife and

581
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.320
his and his wife's family and you
know, being veterans and stuff like that.

582
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.480
So I want to be able to
connect with these guys and if and

583
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:16.400
if they can actually get some get
some you know, anecdotal evidence through the

584
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:22.320
family and through direct connections that way, maybe we can actually get some more

585
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.280
impact in that direction. Because he's
actually doing a lot of traveling along and

586
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.920
helping with the VA or the the
veterans and stuff like that through you know,

587
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:37.719
O, S I and whatnot,
going around with and seeing all the

588
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.440
vets and going out to different places
all around the world to help with the

589
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.960
people in the in the military.
Ah, So you could you get in

590
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:53.039
touch with him and I'm working on
I'm working on that. Yeah, Okay,

591
00:49:53.440 --> 00:50:00.440
amazing. Just out of curiousity,
if anyone is listening, if you

592
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.599
were to put out a request to
listeners other than for people to like actually

593
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.320
get one for themselves, like what
what would be most helpful, what type

594
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:15.079
of opportunities would be most helpful for
you right now? So if people are

595
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:19.960
looking to actually you know, into
looking into these, it's what's interesting is

596
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:25.119
you have to actually do the the
what you'll call it the intention based setup

597
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.079
like we talked about. So if
we actually you're wearing one so it makes

598
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.119
a difference. So when you're wearing
one, you can disconnect to it and

599
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:38.159
tell it to reset and then go
to full power. So if nobody has

600
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.320
one and you want one, to
look at one and see what they do,

601
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.559
you can actually, through just intention
feel it. So you would actually

602
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:52.239
go to the website, click on
individual pendance and then visualize your wearing it

603
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.400
and through your intentions. You know, you visualize it right here right over

604
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.639
your heart. You connect to it, reset it, tell it to go

605
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:06.320
to full power, and just feel
how does it impact you? And what

606
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:10.960
you'll find is the individual tools will
talk to you specifically. You know,

607
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.239
whether it's the Michael feels better,
or the Shamuel feels better, or the

608
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.519
Metatron feels better, or the anklets
feel better, or my multi dimensional feels

609
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.920
is like the one I really want
to do. It doesn't It's everything is

610
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:30.599
unique in the individual because the energies
of the tools are very much tuned very

611
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.239
specifically for what they do, but
they impact the individuals very specifically. Everybody's

612
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.199
path is different. Yeah, I
want to I want to put a bookmark

613
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:45.400
there because I want to ask you
about like making one specifically for a person.

614
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.920
But what I was asking you about
is like in general, like in

615
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:54.480
your endeavors, you know, because
when I when I am, when I

616
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:58.280
meet someone new, like at a
networking event, often I just ask him,

617
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.239
like, you know, what do
you need right now to support you

618
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.239
know where you're going like in the
next month or so. It would be

619
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.440
the best way that somebody could support
you given what you're trying to accomplish.

620
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:15.119
And that's that's kind of what I
was asking well for these tools. The

621
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.519
part of it is it's like,
what I need is people to understand how

622
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:28.599
they impact you as an individual because
they're so experiential and getting the getting the

623
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.239
word out that these tools are available. And that's the thing I need,

624
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:37.360
is getting the word out and allowing
people to actually do that visualization and does

625
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:38.360
it? Will it help you?
Will it? You know? Will can

626
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.039
this help me in this specific way? Or can I get through this or

627
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:46.719
whatnot? So it's one of those
things for me. The biggest thing is

628
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:52.559
getting the word out for these tools. You know, the Archangels came in

629
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.119
and gave me messages to get these
tools built. You know, it's like

630
00:52:55.519 --> 00:53:00.159
Metatron came in and said, Okay, you need to make anklets and they

631
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:00.639
you know, he told me,
it's like it has to be in a

632
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:04.920
tensor ring. It has to have
these five crystals, and it has to

633
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.639
have a copper mesh over it.
And I'm like, okay. It took

634
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:09.840
me a year and a half to
figure out how to get it all together

635
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:19.079
with all the materials and everything and
make it work. And from there it

636
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:23.920
was like, okay, now what
do I do. It's just like and

637
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:29.440
then it came into the pendants and
stuff like that. So the channeling and

638
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:36.239
the information is is real. It's
kind of interesting, and the kind of

639
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:38.760
to go back to the Metatron part, it's like, it took me about

640
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:40.960
a year and a half to get
these you know, working and all set

641
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.320
up, and then I was dealing
with a large life change and I had

642
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:52.400
to put everything on hold for a
while. And then Vivian got a message

643
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:59.760
through dream state from some very high
dimensional beings. They came into her dream

644
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:01.599
statee and told her it's like,
okay, tell him to start making those

645
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:07.840
those tools. He needs to make
them now. So I kind of got

646
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.840
scolded because I was too busy doing
three D Earthly I have to take care

647
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:14.559
of all these other things, and
I was like, no, you need

648
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:22.480
to make sure these are being made. Have you ever not listened to this

649
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.280
channel the guidance. Have you ever
gotten a message and just ignored it because

650
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:30.159
he didn't want to? Well,
that was the first time I did.

651
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.280
I made the med I did the
Metatron thing. He told me to make

652
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:35.840
them, and I didn't make him
for a while, and then I got

653
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.480
another get reprimand from a higher dimensional
being telling me to get off my ass

654
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.679
and start making them. So it's
more of like, yes, you did

655
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.280
what so after that one, and
I pretty much and whenever I get a

656
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.880
message like okay, if I don't
get around to it right away, it's

657
00:54:49.880 --> 00:55:00.679
on my list of to do.
Gotcha? Have there been any sing nicities

658
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:07.920
or confirmations like when you start to
and let me explain why I'm asking this

659
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.000
question. Is a lot of times
when I, or like people in general,

660
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:19.199
they want to heed their intuition or
their guidance, and there's a lot

661
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:24.199
of stepping into the unknown. It's
like, oh my gosh, I'm a

662
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:30.400
little uncomfortable doing this, so and
then something will come along to confirm that

663
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.840
it's the right thing to do.
Have there been any of those confirmation points

664
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.079
or synchronicities that tell you like okay, keep going, or you know,

665
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:46.119
other than like the big loud interdimensional
beings telling you to do it, it's

666
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:52.400
more of so, yes, I
got the interdimensional being coming in and tell

667
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:57.880
me to do this. But the
biggest thing for me is when I go

668
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:02.679
to because we go to conferences regularly
so that we can meet and talk and

669
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:09.119
introduce people to the tools. And
the biggest confirmation I get is when people

670
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:15.880
are impacted by by when they put
the tools on and their personal response to

671
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:21.320
the tools. And I've had people, i mean multiple times breaking down,

672
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:24.960
crying, literally crying when they put
the tool on and they just connect to

673
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:30.280
it until it to go to full
power and it's just like okay, And

674
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.679
this just reinforces the fact that they're
working and this is what's supposed to be

675
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.920
happening. These tools need to get
out to people, you know. You

676
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.719
know, there's a lady that we
met in Costa Rica not too long ago,

677
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:45.840
and she put the pendent on it
and she was literally just standing there

678
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:51.519
crying for five minutes once she put
it on. And this is not the

679
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.800
first time that's happened. It happens
quite often. More often than you would

680
00:56:53.840 --> 00:57:01.239
think, because what happens is people
get the idea that it's like, well,

681
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.800
I've been doing meditations for ten years. I know how to put up

682
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:07.559
energy shields. I know how to
protect my energy. I know how to

683
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:12.760
do this, and yes, you
have an understanding that you can do this,

684
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.239
but you haven't actually created the full
field of you know of an energetic

685
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:22.000
shield. And what these do is
these actually when you put these on,

686
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.960
they actually give you that protection instantly, and it teaches you this is what

687
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:31.199
it really feels like when you're protected
and shielded. So understand that feeling.

688
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:37.280
And when you understand that feeling and
you can put that into your unconscious this

689
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.280
is what it feels like, your
body will automatically and your energy field will

690
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:45.880
automatically create that. But it takes
time to train and learn. So the

691
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:51.840
biggest thing I've found is when you
when you get people that literally have gotten

692
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:53.719
to the point where it's like I've
done it all and I don't know why.

693
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.760
And then you give them a tool
and tell them to connect to it,

694
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.760
and then through their thought they can
and they all of a sudden,

695
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:02.719
I can connect to it and talk
to it with my mind without saying a

696
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:08.119
word and all of a sudden,
I can feel this and the experience of

697
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:19.440
that is just so impactful. Yeah, it would probably motivate me to want

698
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:25.000
to go to a lot of these
conferences. Yes, and that's that's where

699
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.840
we do. That's what we're doing
now, and that's where you know,

700
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.079
the greatest thing is right now is
to get the get the word out for

701
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:35.159
the tools and get the people get
to experience these tools, and even if

702
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.920
just doing it through intention through a
webpage and looking at the image and visualizing

703
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:43.079
it, you know, as you're
wearing it. Just having people do that

704
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:47.039
and understanding that these tools are available, and that's the big thing right now,

705
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:52.840
because they are. They're angelically guided, which is hard to believe,

706
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.280
and I didn't believe it when I
first started getting the messages either. But

707
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:59.679
it's just like, Okay, yeah, they're there. They really are there.

708
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:06.159
They do talk to us when they
need to. What about free energy?

709
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.960
I think maybe you mentioned on another
podcast that there is potential to use

710
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:20.280
these for energy generation that accurate.
Yes. In Slim's book, the Lockeied

711
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.760
Martin and the German engineers that were
actually experimenting in the labs they call it

712
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:30.400
the most powerful room temperature superconductor or
energy conductor that they've ever seen, but

713
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.480
they just don't know how to get
the energy out of it. Well would

714
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:37.079
if you were to try to get
the energy out of it? How would

715
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.199
you approach to that. I've had
a couple ideas, and I need to

716
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:45.239
actually work on it, and that's
basically putting coils around it and seeing if

717
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:52.320
we can draw energy through the different
coils. Okay, interesting is it?

718
00:59:52.360 --> 01:00:00.440
Were you an electrical engineer or what
type of engineer? Were you? Engineering

719
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:08.719
technician? Yeah? The technician means
I'm basically when I'm working with engineers that

720
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:13.519
they're going through their minds like this
is how the spec works, this is

721
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.079
how you know physics work in This
machine will do exactly what I tell it

722
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.119
to do. And you're looking at
and going, no, that machine won't

723
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.960
do it that way. I'll tell
you, but we can try. Yeah,

724
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:29.559
bring basically bringing common sense in the
physical world into a into an engineering

725
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:36.159
frame. And that's how basically I
understand an engineering technician. Mmm, gotcha.

726
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:42.519
So like you're you're like the go
between between the the builders and the

727
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.000
the print makers. Can yep,
you know, this is the blueprint.

728
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.840
This is what's going to happen,
and when you actually make the machine.

729
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:54.039
It's the difference between you know,
the logic and common sense and reality.

730
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:59.119
That's like I think you'll get partially
there, but I don't think you're going

731
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:04.639
to get one hundred percent and then
you work through it. Okay, So

732
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:09.079
so walk me through this. So
tested it lockeed martin the ring and you

733
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:14.079
can see it in the Kurleian photography. You can see that it's creating a

734
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:21.440
high energy field. If you were
to put coils around it, what would

735
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.559
that do? I don't know.
Again, that's the only vision. That's

736
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:29.239
a vision I was given to do. I just haven't had the time or

737
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:38.639
anything like that to actually do any
of the experiments, isn't it I mean,

738
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:42.920
I know, you know, it's
it's like there's so many priorities,

739
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:46.119
But like, wouldn't that be amazing
if you were able to bring free energy

740
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:52.320
to people? Yeah, if they
didn't off me because of it? But

741
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:59.320
yeah, are you not doing it
because you're scared? No? Right now,

742
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.519
my goal is to raise the vibration
of people, and once we get

743
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:07.400
people to hire enough vibration, then
free energy will be available from all kinds

744
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.239
of different sources. So I'm not
necessarily, you know, don't need to

745
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.400
lead the way and free energy.
I need to actually need to lead the

746
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.000
way in freeing minds, freeing energy, and feeding, freeing the people.

747
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.800
Okay, I get that, and
then then free energy will just arise from

748
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:27.519
lots of inventors, because right now, if you had free energy, it

749
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.880
would only go to the people of
the rich and controlled, which probably already

750
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:34.039
is there. So you need to
free the minds of the people. It's

751
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:39.400
more like the matrix and neo kind
of thing. M all right, I

752
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:47.679
see that. And then another question
I had from YouTube comments was someone was

753
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:52.239
saying, you've got to spin the
tensor rings. You gotta spin them around

754
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:58.039
and they're more effective. Is there
anything to that. I've never seen that

755
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:04.360
one us as far as inning the
tensor ring. To me, at some

756
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.320
of the different people out there that
make tensor rings tend to actually when they

757
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.079
spin, when they spin, when
they actually spin the wire, they spin

758
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:19.840
it really tight. I only do
that on like the really small rings or

759
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.159
the hoops that hold the lanyards.
As far as the actual tensor rings,

760
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:30.159
I do, I usually leave them
open to allow the what do you call

761
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.679
it the frequent Each one of those
turns actually creates a wave or an energy

762
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:39.440
like a field. I call it
like a flux line. So each one

763
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.159
of those windings creates a flux line, and when you actually have it too

764
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.559
tight, it creates a distorted flux
line. Uh, it creates a different

765
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:52.480
energy field. And we felt this
like I was making some pretty big ones.

766
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.360
It's about two foot diameter ones.
And when you are really really tight

767
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.039
with the energy field, you can
stand in the ring and if you just

768
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:03.920
relax your energy and just step in
it, you'll feel it where it's actually

769
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:10.760
pointing you right. And when you
have it really tight, it'll actually be

770
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:13.440
kind of an offset. You'll feel
like it'll be pushing you off to the

771
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:15.719
side. Okay, that's not you
know, it's not centered, it's not

772
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:21.800
you know, it's too confusing.
The energy is not stable. So I

773
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:25.880
ended up backing off on the winding, and it seemed to make the energy

774
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:30.480
feel more stable. So through experimentation, that's how I forget this one out.

775
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:38.760
Gotcha, and I'm sure you've made
the connection between the double helix of

776
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:45.599
the DNA and the double twist of
the copper wire from looking at this pennant,

777
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:53.400
it seems to be about a similar
tightness to the DNA winding exactly.

778
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:56.840
And this is what I've found to
be the best pretty accurately to the best

779
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:05.119
wind you know density, for the
best power and for the best cleaner energy.

780
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:12.199
Okay, One thing the DNA does
is it does the super super coiling

781
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:16.000
the like to make the chromosome.
Right, you have the initial double helix,

782
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:19.159
and then it like if you keep
twisting it, it'll like twist back

783
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:24.719
on itself and you get these like
hyper compact kind things. What would happen

784
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:30.079
if you just like twisted and twisted
and twisted the copper and it just was

785
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:34.159
like in a regular you know,
like a chromosome of copper, Well,

786
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:39.679
copper won't go that far. It'll
break, okay once once you actually get

787
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.599
it compressed to a certain point,
what happens is that the copper just gets

788
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:45.039
too hot and it just gets soft
and it breaks. So you're not going

789
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:50.840
to be able to actually twist it
back in on itself. Gotcha. Okay,

790
01:05:54.079 --> 01:06:00.639
does the thickness of the copper matter
the wire? Yes, yes,

791
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:05.519
So I do the thinner wire on
anklets to make it more pliable and movable,

792
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:13.079
so you can actually bend it around
your leg and make it hold the

793
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:19.159
dependance. I use the specific about
twelve gauge, and it's actually big enough

794
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:24.840
to hold a decent charge, but
not too big to you know, weigh

795
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:30.360
a lot. And I've actually made
pendance with six gauge before and it's pretty

796
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:36.239
heavy. It's a hefty pendant.
So but when you're doing when you're doing

797
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:43.559
bigger like two foot rings, six
gauge is perfect. M you know,

798
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:47.519
the bigger the ring with a bigger
wire gives you more power you went to

799
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:55.440
hold its circular structure? Yep,
does it matter like if if I'm imagining

800
01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:00.679
the big ones are hard to get
perfectly round as a matter, if it's

801
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.719
like slightly warped, I haven't seen
it make that much of a difference,

802
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:10.960
but we do try to keep it
as round as possible. What happens is

803
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.440
like it creates a vortex of energy, and it projects energy up and down.

804
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.559
So when it's off a little bit, you'll feel it distort the field.

805
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:20.679
So instead of being straight up and
down the calumniss, it'll start to

806
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:27.320
tweaking you in one direction or another. What about other shapes other than a

807
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:30.239
circle, like you've got pyramid behind
you. What about squares or triangles or

808
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:40.519
anything like that. I did a
couple triangle pendants when I was first experimenting,

809
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.239
and I hadn't really gone anything back
with them, but I didn't have

810
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:49.360
any negative responses out of it,
So there's always a possibility of going back

811
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:58.519
into that. We are coming up
with a new new pendant for intentity protection

812
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:06.199
too. That one's coming out cool. What's what's uh different about that one

813
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:14.639
that makes it entity protecting. A
friend of mine was working with an elder,

814
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:18.439
an elder I think it was a
shaman, and they were working with

815
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:26.800
clearing houses and removing spirits and entities
from different places. And what they were

816
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:31.319
doing is they would they created a
small a small pendant with a circle,

817
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:36.439
triangle, square on it and it
was specifically spaced. And what that would

818
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:42.560
do is and that was again a
very olde old understanding with those just those

819
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:47.560
three symbols, and what it would
do is actually create an entity protection for

820
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:51.520
some reason. It would actually create
a vibrational field of you, like you're

821
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:56.159
you have an energy field layered out
from your physical body. It would actually

822
01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:00.039
create an energy field out just out
of your field so that an entity could

823
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:03.600
not attach to you. It's like, you know, if you're out ghostbusting

824
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.920
all of a sudden you come home
with a nasty one or something, you

825
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:10.159
know, something like that. It
would keep you from bringing home something that

826
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:15.039
you don't want to bring home.
And because they were doing these clearings and

827
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:16.960
these houses and stuff like that,
they actually put this thing to work.

828
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:23.239
And this was something that I worked
through with my friend Thomas, and he

829
01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:29.840
was allowed me to bring it into
a pendant. And what we found was

830
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:34.239
is dependent that they were utilizing was
strong and it would keep entities from attaching

831
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:39.479
to you. But what we do
is we added it to the tensor ring

832
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:44.000
in our pendant and it was like
one hundredfold stronger. It turned into more

833
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:48.600
of like you're walking around as like
a beacon for entities that are just floating

834
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:53.720
around that want to get you know, returned, you know, waiting for

835
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:55.680
the light. They missed them,
you know, they missed the bust kind

836
01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:59.079
of thing. It's like open the
portal, let them home. So what

837
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:02.039
this pendant does keeps negatives from attaching
to you, but it also brings the

838
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:06.640
positive entities that want to go back
to the run the light. You can

839
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:12.399
open up a portal throughout one of
the little prayers that we have and open

840
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:16.880
it up, send them on the
way, and close the portal. Interesting,

841
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:20.560
so you could you could take one
of these like a civil war battlefield

842
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:33.000
and clean it up. Yep.
Absolutely. What about use with the land,

843
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:39.600
like healing the land or working with
the land itself? With the land.

844
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.720
One of the things I was actually
I started understanding and working with is

845
01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:47.079
some of the stuff that slim Sparling
was talking about. And he was dowsing

846
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:54.319
with the what do you call it, the geo line that Gooli geo I

847
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:58.279
can't think of the name of the
word now, but the energy lines,

848
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.399
the tool auric currens and stuff like
that that come across the surface of the

849
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:09.199
Earth. There are multiple layers of
energy that actually cross over everything that we

850
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:16.800
exist in. And what he did
is he was actually dowsing using the l

851
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:21.199
rods. He was dowsing for the
energy currents coming into and out of people's

852
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:28.439
properties, and he was actually staking
copper rods where the energy would actually enter

853
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:34.560
a property and it would actually push
that energy over the property by several hundred

854
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:38.560
feet or several hundred meters whatever it
was he was doing, and it would

855
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:41.600
just basically push that energy over and
he would do it all the way around

856
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.239
the property. Whoops, sorry,
do it all the way around the property,

857
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:47.640
because with these energies coming into the
property was actually having people were having

858
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:54.600
physical ailments, heart attacks and strokes
and all these negative energies that are coming

859
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.880
through for some of these people.
And he would come through and this is

860
01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:01.800
what he was doing in Denver and
stuff like that one with him and his

861
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:09.560
friend. So some of that with
the physical and energetic this was some of

862
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:13.359
the stuff that you know, I
do. I've done it to our property

863
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.680
here and staked it around and pushed
the energies over the house and stuff like

864
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:25.760
that. And it helps because you
determined that they were negative energies in some

865
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.520
way, it's not necessarily the negative. The issue is it's an energy current

866
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:35.039
that we don't necessarily need coming through
us. The planet may need it as

867
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:39.960
a current, but I you know, some of the times it's like if

868
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.439
it's coming through you, and it's
to say, there is an electromagnetic grid

869
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:47.960
now coming in because of all the
electromagnetics that we're creating. So we want

870
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:51.920
to make sure that's pushed over.
So what I do is I actually do

871
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:58.760
the dowsing and go across the entire
property and with the intention on the dowsing

872
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.039
rods. Okay, any negative energies
that are gonna you know, none of

873
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:05.920
my best interest. Show me what
the lines are, right, and it

874
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:10.319
doesn't matter which ones they are if
it's not for my best interest. I'm

875
01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:15.760
bouncing that over the property. And
you're doing this with tensor rings of the

876
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:19.479
perimeter of the property, just copper
rods. So when the when when they

877
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.199
when you find the entrance to the
property where the energy is coming through,

878
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.760
you just stick put the copper rod
right in there and you hammer it into

879
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:31.600
the ground and it actually through the
energy coming through the ground. From the

880
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:38.199
ground up. The energy comes in
and basically bounces off that. Interesting.

881
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.720
Oh yeah, this is all in
some spellings book. It's actually his book

882
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:46.319
is a really good read. It's
really interesting stuff what he was doing.

883
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:54.960
And an autobiography that one was I
believe, Yeah, I think that was

884
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.960
the autobiography. There's also a a
biography as well. There's two books.

885
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:05.479
One's autobiography wants a biography? Okay, cool? Have you ever tried to

886
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:14.840
connect with Slim to get his input
on your work. I've asked him to

887
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:17.039
come in a couple of times,
and in his book it's actually kind of

888
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.199
funny. He actually says this in
his book. He goes, if you

889
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:24.399
ever want me to come and help
give you some feedback, just you know,

890
01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:26.560
call my name and ask me for
some you know, have me come

891
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:29.800
for coffee. That's what he said
in the book. And this is what

892
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:33.640
he said after he had passed to
one of his friends that was a medium.

893
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:39.439
Oh okay, so the book was
written about him afterwards, and he's

894
01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:45.359
it was like giving that the biography
was talking about him after it had passed.

895
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:54.159
Okay, interesting, Yeah, wow, Okay. The other thing I

896
01:14:54.199 --> 01:15:00.279
wanted to make sure to ask you
about was so you have the rings and

897
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:09.399
set measurements octaves of specific cubit.
Yeah, but I'm wondering about, like,

898
01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:15.000
so each person's field is individual to
them. So you said you could

899
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:17.279
test by looking at the pictures to
see which one resonates the most, But

900
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:23.640
is there any way to create a
custom size for a person, Like I'm

901
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:30.680
just thinking like different people might benefit
from different sizes that are not necessarily the

902
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.479
standard cubit. I don't know.
Well, what I'm going to be doing

903
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:39.439
is right now, I'm the only
one doing all the copper work, so

904
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.199
it takes you know, that takes
a lot of time. Once I have

905
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.680
a little bit more of the free
time, I'm going to be doing like

906
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:53.279
more copper specific tensor rings from the
small from like little finger rings all the

907
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:59.119
way up to the big meditation rings
and all the different frequencies, so people

908
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:04.079
can actually utilize as those rings in
any way they want. So anything from

909
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:09.199
the root chakra all the way up, you can utilize these rings and they

910
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:14.960
can actually again to intention feel the
ring and a lot of times for the

911
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:19.920
big tensor rings, which is interesting
is all you have to do is visualize

912
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:26.399
that on the ground right beneath you
and stand stand on the floor and just

913
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:29.319
to stand there and just feel like
there's a tensor ring around you on the

914
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.760
floor and just feel that you're you
know that that is the ring you're feeling,

915
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:35.880
and then you can change it to
the different friens, a different tensor

916
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:40.079
ring and see how that one feels. And just so what I'm gonna be

917
01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:43.520
doing is I'm putting the different tensor
rings up there on the site, so

918
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:48.319
people clean experience that those particular tensor
rings and you can actually try them all

919
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:59.520
out. Great. What's your what's
your workshop or fabrication facility? Like it's

920
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:02.800
actually my shop is basically it's a
two car garage about that size, not

921
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:09.079
much space. And what do you
what do you need to be able to

922
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:15.840
do this successfully? Successfully? And
I will need more so we can get

923
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.920
more sales, so that we can
actually get more time, more another person

924
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:23.640
in to help me do more copper
work, because that's the biggest limited right

925
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.399
now. Right now, I do
have my my son and my daughter helping.

926
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.520
My son helps me a lot doing
a lot of this stuff, the

927
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:36.079
sanding down for the pendants to make
them nice and flat. Yeah, yeah,

928
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:41.159
I noticed that there's like you can
see the bright copper, So what

929
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:45.039
is that? What type of standard
do you use to stand that down to

930
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:50.039
diamond? Diamond lapadory? Okay,
like the same thing they cut gems with.

931
01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:57.000
Yep, ah cool, we're cut
we are cutting gems, we're cutting

932
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.960
stones with these, so you have
to have the same tools. Mm hm

933
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:10.159
sweet And yeah, what what haven't
I asked you about so far that you

934
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:14.560
want to make sure to share?
Well, the one of the other things

935
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:18.239
we're coming up with, and we've
got partially designed out, is uh star

936
01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:25.800
seed pendants that are tuned for specific
uh you know, different star races.

937
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.399
So the tensor ring, like you
were talking about, the tensor ring is

938
01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:35.000
going to be a frequency that's aligned
with them, and the crystals independent are

939
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:42.560
also going to be aligned with them
specifically. So you're going to have you

940
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.199
know, the tensor ring for a
specific frequency, and then each of different

941
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:48.720
crystals are going to allow the energy
of those individuals to feel like more at

942
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:53.640
home, more relaxed, so they
can, you know, when they're going

943
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:58.560
through their day to day they feel
like more of their source energy field.

944
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:01.560
So if you're from Oryan and you're
from you know, Andromeda, you're going

945
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:08.399
to feel more of that energy instead
of being here. That's fine. I

946
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:15.760
think I saw Vivian is connected with
the Arcturians. Yes she is. So

947
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:23.279
what would an Arcturian penden be?
Like, we have a we had one,

948
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:29.000
We're out of production for it,
but we did a Octorian vortex pendant

949
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:35.520
and it had and it had some
some stones out of an Octorian vortex and

950
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:41.199
the energy of that pendant was through
the roof. It was incredibly powerful.

951
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:47.039
Had the crystals that it was actually
a very amazing pendant. What were those

952
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:54.439
crystals in there? That one was, if I remember right, rotonite,

953
01:19:55.279 --> 01:20:05.399
Lapis laboratory amethyst, and I believe
we had a little bit of the Sedona

954
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:14.159
red rock in it. Mhm.
Cool. I noticed that one of the

955
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:19.479
ones in this was tanzanite, which
is yes, pretty. I don't fully

956
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:26.560
know it that well, but I
know it's highly prized in met physical l

957
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:32.239
circles. Yeah, tans Nit's very
powerful. Morganite is also very in there,

958
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:40.039
and it's actually very powerful. Yeah. Uh, it's like more of

959
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:47.399
a angelic rose quartz. Mhm right. Yeah, I love I love crystals

960
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:56.279
and stones and it's so fun to
have around. Where can people find you

961
01:20:56.600 --> 01:21:05.199
online? Everybody can find me on
Energiesofservice dot com. I'm also as Energy

962
01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:09.520
as a Service. You can find
me on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,

963
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:15.520
LinkedIn. Yeah, I'm pretty much
on the majors on that on that part

964
01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:23.479
anyway. Still looking for other platforms
to play with and work on. Yeah,

965
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:27.520
excellent, Well, uh I think
we can. I think we can

966
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.039
wrap there. Thanks thanks for coming
on the show. It's been fun.

967
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:36.039
Thank you. Derek, it's been
a pleasure. Absolutely, Yeah, we'll

968
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:40.960
talk to him and stay in touch. Absolutely, we'll do all right.