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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jagon Zalez on Fox Sports

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Station ATOY. Good afternoon, everybody,

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Welcome to Iye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Roberta. He's Jagon'sawae scot a guy. Ryan back in. Ryan continues to

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come back for the punishment. We're
good, Thank you. Ryan. It's

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Thursday. It is Thursday or that
show to this week. It is last

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show of the week, everybody.
We're gonna be off tomorrow and Monday for

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Memorial Day, So long weekend for
the guys. We need to break.

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Steve's the road, gonna hit the
road, and I'm gonna hit the sack.

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I don't know. Well, you
gotta get ready for next week's when

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you're on the road. Yeah you
got a vacation from your vacation. Yeah,

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I'm in your vacation. So Steve
will be We'll both be back on

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Tuesday, and we're lining up who
we think is gonna be a great but

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we're not gonna let you know who
that is until we confirmed that over the

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weekend, but somebody who would be
very fun and that we've had before but

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always have a great time. But
I will be here Tuesday and then I'm

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off for a week. And I
headed down to Rocky Point with the fam

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and uh, you know, couldn't
go down there and you know, hit

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the beach, sit on the sit
on a back porch and just drink a

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lot of beer and eat a lot
of food. So cool. But Steve

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will be here and uh, man
in the man in the man in the

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microphone. Yeah, it'll be it'll
be fun. I'll have some good guests

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with me, like you have a
couple already lined up. I won't say

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whom. Uh. So it's good
as Thursday, a lot of things going

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on. The last night's game baseball
game was good. I hope ya taking

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some news. Got a little dicey
last night. At the end I watched,

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I watched till there was sixty three. I'll find it, uh,

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and then I just said, well, they're gonna win this. Well.

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It was nervous from the from the
get go, because Arizon gives up a

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two run homer in the bottom of
the first and like, I didn't think

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they were gonna, you know,
lose two to one. But you just

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hate to see the other team get
any get any bounce from anything. But

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h Mason White just hit another moon
shot or a three run homer that there

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were there's a in that at that
stadium, there's a there's a there's like

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a I don't even know who you
would call it, but there's a two

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story Uh. It's it's just a
place, a place to hang out.

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Right, there's a bar and grill
up there, you know, durry spring

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training. There's like a bar and
grill up there and people hang out.

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He hit it over that. There
were people sitting in it who turned around

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and watched the ball goal over their
heads. That's how far he hit that.

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And so then Arizona had a nice
six three lead. But then they

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give up two runs in the bottom
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the winning run is at the plate, uh, and they get them

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out. So they so they went
six to five. They're in the they're

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in the bracket on on tomorrow Tomorrow
play at seven o'clock. They play Stanford.

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Regardless of what happens tonight, they
play Stanford. As I mentioned yesterday,

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Oregon State bt ACU this morning.
So they get in, they get

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in the bracket. If Arizona beats
Cal tonight, Arizona loses to Cal,

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which would put Cal in the bracket, Oregon State is out. Okay.

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Interesting and how would you handle it
if you were you try to win every

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game obviously, Yeah, but he'll
figure out how to pitch. He's gonna

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yeah, he's gonna save his starting
his you know, his starting pitchers for

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for the rest too. He only
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you know, I don't know if
he'll throw one of you know, one

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of the starters or save him for
uh, you know, if needed in

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relief, you know, over the
weekend. But uh, you know,

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tonight's game doesn't matter. There's there's
no consequence to the game tonight, Cal

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Cal okay. And coincidentally, one
of our guests our first kisses from Cal.

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Yeah that's j John, a former
assistant coach here at Arizona. He

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was a head coach at Cal,
I mean, excuse me, at Oregon

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State, an assistant coach at Cal
under under Mike Montgomery. Now he's administrator

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over there, so keeping his uh, keeping his finger in it. But

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h John's a Jay is a local
guy, went to South Point and UH

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so recent an inductee into the Peoplehall
People County Hall of Fame. Right,

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so we t you know, he
grew up in the PAC twelve or Pack

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ten, just like us. So
we'll see what he's got, you know,

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some of his thoughts on on where
we're headed with with all of that,

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and again as an administrator in a
formerly packed twelve school heading to the

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a SEC, we'll see what he's
got to say. Yeah, we'll see

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what he says. I'm sure he'll
couch his words, yeah closely. Yeah,

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okay, no, that'll be fun. And then in the second hour,

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we're gonna introduce the new UH swimming
and diving coach at Arizona, Ben

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Lures. Uh just just joined the
the staff in the last couple of weeks.

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We'll just kind of find out a
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he's up to, what he thinks
of the place. He's coming here from

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UNLV where he worked with Desiree Reid
Francois when she was the ad over there.

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So we'll see what he's got to
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And so maybe some of his thoughts
and expectations. Yeah, that'll be

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that'll be good. You get to
know him right away. Who else nothing,

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you know, I don't know if
we want to get to some stuff.

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I know, I don't. I
don't know if you saw this,

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but I'm taking it. I don't
know if I've taken away some breaking news.

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But PAC twelve sent out their financial
results for the twenty twenty two to

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twenty three fiscal year no end,
and well, they paid out thirty three

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point six million dollars per school,
which is great. Yeah, you know

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about where they thought they would be
six hundred million dollars in revenues, with

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three hundred and eighty nine million of
that coming from television rights, another one

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hundred and forty million from bowl games. And it looks like the way,

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if I'm reading this correctly, another
forty million from n C Double A events

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like you know, tournaments and all
that kind of stuff. Yeah, say,

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brought in a little over six hundred
million dollars in revenue, hundred million,

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so you're saying thirty three. So
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they had expenses, right, so
they're their their their total expenses ran

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one hundred and forty million dollars.
So they distributed four hundred and almost four

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hundred and four million, uh and
they kind of kept uh about sixty million

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for themselves. Yeah, okay for
the PAC twelve pepub for the packed two

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well one for you, one for
me for you, what for me?

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Twelve times there's Scott's gone, right
yeah or is that still yeah? In

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in the uh in the news release, uh, they said that the Pack

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twelve Networks made about where was it? Pack twelve Networks had made about about

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twenty seven dollars uh in in you
know, uh net income from you know,

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from it's from its operations. I
saw the other day that they are

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talking about they're talking about keeping the
like doing you know, uh sort of

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being not an ESPN, but providing
production services to conferences that need what they

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have right well, because they've got
all this, you know, I mean

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they've got a yeah, a studio, a studio broadcast basically all the all

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the makings of a broadcast network,
equipment, cameras, trucks, you know,

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studios, the whole bit. And
so they're trying to generate business by

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doing that. For like, maybe
does the Mountain West need something like that

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or whack or whatever and kind of
trying to make that a business. Do

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you know how Arizona's going to pull
this off? Because they need their own

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studios, right, Yeah, that's
what the Big Twelve requires because ESPN is

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doing their own things. So yeah, no, the the the four school

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from the PAC twelve going into into
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their own studio facilities on the campus. Arizona has a pretty good TV program

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with the IS, the IS,
the PM people, Oh yeah, yeah

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yeah, the u A oh oh
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campus network. Yeah, yeah,
so I would I would imagine that they

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would do something, yeah, in
conjunction with them. Uh and see it's

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gonna all be in house, right
supposedly supposedly so so basically if you know,

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yeah, I mean the schools are
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they want coverage of their stuff,
I guess they've gotta. They've got to

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have the facilities for for the Big
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should say to come in and do
that because games and stuff are going to

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be on ESPN plus. Is it
just start. ESPN is not going to

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send a crew here to do the
Arizona a s U women's basketball game.

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You know they're gonna have to produce
all that. I think the way it

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works, all the schools have to
produce that if they want to put it

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on. Wow, that's interesting.
So now they turn into their own TV

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press. You know, we'll have
to get somebody from there. How it

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will work from the department. I
wonder if they'd hire hire out people like

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you know, let's say, just
throw a name after Sean Mooney or something

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like that. Who can you do
that? It can be there like the

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studio hosts or whatever? Right right? That interesting? Yeah? Okay,

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cool? Wherever my resume, I
gotta dust that off. I got a

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face for it. Might have to
shave. I have a face for radio,

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so you might have to stretch that
idea. I have to annunciate.

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Never mind, I have to enunciate, shave and clean up my face exactly.

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I'm not in for that race.
Okay, No, no, cool.

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That's interesting. Although I knew that, I just know how well,

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we still didn't know how they're gonna
pull it together. Yeah, because it's

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it's coming up pretty quickly. What's
going to start to happen and we're just

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three months away? Was yesterday,
yesterday. Today was one hundred days till

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the start of college football. Hundred
days. Okay, so you've got less

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than a little more than three months, all right, that'll be cool,

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that'll be cool. We'll get five
minutes. We're gonna talk to Jay John

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and then we're going to talk to
to Ben Lords, Ben Lewis Lords.

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Okay, tell you pronounce. I
got some good feedback on our talk with

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with Steve Curry yesterday and and all
everybody, but Steve specifically because we got

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about the last minute, right,
yeah, And and they either they were

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they were prepared for him or not
prepared for him like we were. But

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you put it on the website,
right, put it on the website on

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Twitter, so if you if they
haven't seen it or heard it or whatever.

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Yeah, well and you posted on
Facebook. So you go to Facebook,

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our Facebook and Twitter, and you
can find you can find the interview

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you got. And we had Roman
Bravo Young uh at the in the second

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segment and then Steve in the in
the third segment of the second hour yesterday.

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So if you want to listen to
that. Uh, we had fun

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with him, you always, we
always do. He's he's always such a

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great guest. But you can go
listen to that anytime you want, right,

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right, And that was fun always
good to talk to him. Uh.

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And today is our final day,
which is another good thing. So

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thank you for the summer. Yep. But it was funny because when you

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first came on during the pandemic,
it was like summer we could find anybody.

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Yeah, everybody with nothing we want
to come on the show. We're

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having all kinds of great guess.
We had Bill Walton, we had Frank

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con we had Louise Gonzales, remember
that one. Uh. We had Idea

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Barnes comes on and announces that she's
gonna have a baby. Uh and then

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realizes I should I probably should have
said that my son was her was her

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sports information person at the time,
and he was losing his mind because his

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dad kind of made some work for
him. Uh. I. We had

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we had a great bunch of guests
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Yeah, so it was good.
Fine. I would continue to do what

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we what we do with good guests, and then next week we'll do some

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more, or try to at least
when you're one day and then in my

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three days, uh, anything else
that we we can't steal everything from mister

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nos was taking some of his stuff, right, but yeah, you have

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the tennis person play the issue.
Okay, you don't. I was just

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curious. Yeah, I don't even
know what happened. That's why I don't

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say that I do. Oh you
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game last night was a pretty good
one, h Dallas and Minnesota. I

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had Minnesota. I think everybody had
Minnesota. And then these games have been

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weird. And I've covered the NBA
for for a while ninety three and I've

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told people way back then that nothing
happens until the fourth quarter, and it

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continues to be that way. And
nothing happened last night until the final two

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three minutes like the previous game,
when it will happen in the last minute.

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I mean, things happened in the
fourth quartera you just don't expect.

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Dallas was Dallas was was down and
then they were up, and then they

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were down and then they were up
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I missed it. You're happy about
that? About that? Oh? Okay,

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you have Dallas? Oh is it? You're from Texas? You know

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origin? Okay? Oh you are? Yeah? Well part did we know

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that. Wow, like West Central. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember

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that. Yeah, I remember that. So on your resume, I should

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remember that. I believe there's nothing
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out, and I believe one of
them. I know exactly. I know

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the reference exactly and exactly. I
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up. You really don't. Okay, that's what I believe Texas got.

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Okay, we'll just go. Yeah, we got about a minute. We

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got about a minute. So but
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I didn't. I didn't see any
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you know, believe it or not. Get this. Don't don't fall off

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your chair when I tell you this. I worked out last night. Just

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basketball game. Okay, I even
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today, back. I haven't fallen
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So I got it all going on
today, all right, Okay, let's

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go and take our break. We're
going to come back. We're gonna have

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J John, former Arizona basketball assistant, former head coach at Oregon State,

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now a former assistant at CAL,
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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app.
This is I on the Ball with

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Roberta and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to

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wynding the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Ribera, He's

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Jaginsaus. Now on the phone,
we have Jay John Now. I'm currently

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a university of California, Berkeley administrator, athletic administrator, former you of A

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basketball assistant and Oregon State head coach. Jay? How are you doing fine?

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Steed? Jay? How are you
guys doing today? We're doing well.

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We even trying to find people.
And you're perfect for this situation to

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talk about the good old days of
the PAC ten PAC twelve. You know

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you've seen it all growing up here, being part of it here, being

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part of it at Oregon State and
now at cal Are you sad like some

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many others to see it? Go? Sure? I mean it's been an

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institution. I mean, if you
were you were a kid growing up in

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the set is in Tucson, you
know, we had a Pack eight Game

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of the Week to watch. You
know, we're you know, we're playing

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afternoon games in California. We've got
you know, our U of A night

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games. But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's just it's just strange.

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It's just strange to think about.
Are you more mad or sad about

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this? Because I'm pissed. I'm
really mad. Well, it's it's Uh.

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Greg Byrne ran with the ball pretty
well back ten years ago when he

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started realizing some things in we're right
with with Larry Scott and that leadership.

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I'm mad from the standpoint that leadership. Leadership was misguided. Leadership was got

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their eyes on the wrong on the
wrong football. And you could extend that

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to the n C two A.
You know, I've told the story a

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number of times. Was of late
when I was after my first year at

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the u of A. I mean, I'm sorry, my first year at

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Oregon State as head coach, I
got it from ten thousand dollars in May.

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I called my agent and I said, well, what's this for?

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It is you know, it's just
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Sports and this is two thousand and
three, and he says, he said,

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well, you get that. It's
in your contract. You're part of

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the basketball basketball game. And I
said, oh, all about that.

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It's what about my players, because
my kids don't care about me in the

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game. They care about the players. Players can't get any that money,

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you know, they're not they're amateurs. And the SAI that's gonna be a

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problem. You're gonna they're gonna have
to fix that. Yeah, So that's

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not anything answer to A didn't understand
and some of these things with the Pact.

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You know Pac twelve that they just
took the eye off the ball in

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some areas and now there's no league. Yeah, it's it's yeah, yeah,

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it's crazy. Yeah, crazy.
And now you're in a different league.

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Yeah, okay, okay, tell
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that and what you guys are having
to go through now to prepare yourselves to

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be in the league. That's you
know, pretty much across the country in

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all respects. Well, the geographical
piece for you know, for Arizona and

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again I'm a Wildcat, so there'll
be a time when I'm assuming when I'm

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retiring back in Arizona, and you
know, geographically that's not a that's not

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a horrendous move right to go into
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the for the four teams going to
Big ten and then Stanford and call going

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you know to the CC, it's
like trap your kind of wrap your head

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around, you know, you know, where's the California kid or West Coast

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kid that wants to play in horwell
conference? You can't, well I can't,

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I can't. I guess I can
go here, but I got to

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travel. It just doesn't make sense. It's it's too bad. Right,

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right, So do you travel with
the teams that you are are kind of

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facing or for following? Uh?
Only in postseason? Okay, it's just

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I've got I mean, I have
thirteen, I'm thirteen teams that I supervise

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out of our out of our out
of our thirty and most of them are

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in the most of them are in
the spring. And so it's just like

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our men's golf team is in the
n T two A Championships and Carlsbad.

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So once baseball we get through this, I've got I know, I've got

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to go over there to to California
this weekend and just said, but that's

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just really for the most of my
travel, it's the heavy travel March,

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April and in May and the rest
of the time, just trying to work

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with my coaches and and keep you
know, keep the athletes moving straight ahead.

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So so let me ask you,
Jay, and we've you know,

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the kind of there's all this conversation
about, you know, the student athletes

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and the angst over the travel and
the cost of the traveler. We're we've

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that's been run run to the ground
a whole bit. Is there other stuff

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out there that's coming with this move
to the ACC and theoretically for the other

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schools that are moving to conferences that
are you know, where they're they're heading

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east. That we're not talking about
that, or that we don't know,

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that we don't understand, or that
are maybe things that are kind of up

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in the air for you guys in
terms of we don't know yet how this

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is going to work. Is there
anything like that besides the travel aspect of

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this, Well, for the sports, for the sports that I that I

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supervise, you know, so when
I have golf, if I have golf

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and swimming, track and field,
by and large, you know, either

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whether it's at the U of A
or whether it's in Oregon, those teams

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pretty much don't go east anyway in
the regular season, you know. They

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they they some of them assemble at
certain places and have big meats and stuff

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like that. Baseball now is the
one that's creating has got a lot of

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moving parts because they played they played
three games series. Anybody, anybody who's

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been on the West Coast and has
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can't. You can't do that the
day before the games and expect kids to

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be have their bodies responded well,
you try to stay away from that with

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basketball baseball. I don't know why
baseball would be any different les let's anaerobic

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stuff, but still so you know, and you have a mandated day off

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during the season with your sport.
So you're gonna play a Thursday, Friday

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Saturday baseball series, which okay,
that I mean you're leaving Tuesday night.

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Okay, are you putting kids on
red eyes or or how are you doing

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that? And then it rains a
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so some of these airports aren't necessarily
Virginia Tech and you've got to drive.

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You got to drive bit to get
the ronoacher Richmond. I mean, so

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there's some logistical things that are like
you're gonna have to deal with. Baseball

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is always playing a midweek game too, so you know it's are we talking

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about academics too, they how's a
different entity than a lot of places on

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that piece. Let's let's get away
from the administrative part of this now seven

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minutes. I want to go to
the good old days. So I want

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to kind of get breck your life
apart. This is your life. So

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you were talking as a kid in
Tucson, what were your greatest moments of

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recollections sports wise at the u of
A as a fan. As a fan,

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I will say that when fred Zan
Noden showed up, McHale got built,

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and all of a sudden we were
good in basketball. That was I

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was right in high school at that
time, exhilarating. That was so awesome

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because all of a sudden we were
good. I mean, we're in that

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stretch where ANSU was just so good
in football no matter how good we were,

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you know, they were beating us. So all of a sudden,

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now basketball is good. Okay,
I go back to you know, the

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first thing, the first U of
A events that I was taken to were

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baseball. So you know, my
senior year in high school seventy six,

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you know, baseball, we win, We win the World Series. I

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mean that was a big deal because
again I grew up as a kid who

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doesn't like a s U and they
were always so good in baseball. We

408
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.680
were two, but we win one
there, you know, and when we

409
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.160
go to the Pac ten and you
know, by that time I had transferred

410
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.599
back from Northern Arizona to the u
of A. I can you know,

411
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.960
explicitly remember that for season, the
Pac ten basketball will upset U c l

412
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A and the fans storm, the
fans storm the court. Security wasn't ready

413
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.519
for it, and it was it
was wild, you know. And then

414
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.079
well, I mean college, you
know, we win baseball again, you

415
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.240
know, I mean stuff like that. That were those were things just like

416
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then. You know, then you
get out of school and you start working

417
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.480
and you know, other things to
take up your time as much. But

418
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.920
I remember those, those those moments
when we got we got good. We

419
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.400
got good football too, you know, you know, beat Notre Dame,

420
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.319
uh, you know for football and
uh, anyway, you know those kinds

421
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.240
of things. You know, you
grow up in twoshoun, your you know,

422
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.799
you raised a big party life,
and in that window time in high

423
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.160
school and college, we move into
the Pac ten. We're good and we're

424
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.079
good and everything, and it was
fun and it was fun. I think

425
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.400
you're not close to the same age. I think we're you know, teenagers,

426
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.720
right or late teenagers when they when
we got into the into the Pac

427
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.359
ten. You know, I've told
people to me, it was like we

428
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.240
grew up right when when Arizona got
into the get into the Pac ten.

429
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.079
That's how I saw it. Yeah, no, it was. It was

430
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:38.720
cool, right because you grow up
watching the California teams, you know,

431
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:42.359
and and so that first year,
you know, that first year we joined

432
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.640
the Pac ten I had just turned
twenty and my junior year in high school

433
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.359
in college. But it was it
was fun. It's just there was such

434
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.759
an energy, and there was such
an energy in town. And the team's

435
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.039
coming to playoffs. Oh my gosh, you know, we've got we've got

436
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.079
these teams coming. I'm not you
know, I'm not knocking Colorado or what

437
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.079
Colorada, state of Wyoming, but
nonetheless I got these other ones coming in.

438
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.359
That's a little that's a little different
fun. Yeah. No, I

439
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.440
say we traded those few schools for
USC and U C. L A.

440
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.319
And you know, al a sudden, John Elway is on the field at

441
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:23.160
you know, at at Arizona Stadium. Yeah, just tell you how things

442
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.440
have changed. You know, you're
in college and you just you know,

443
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.440
everybody can be a friend, right. I run into John Alway after Stanford

444
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:36.920
plays cal plays Arizona. I don't
know seventy eight or seventy nine, but

445
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.640
I run in. I run into
him at Stanford went to go eat after

446
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:48.519
the football game, at Arby's on
on Speedway and I see him and I

447
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.799
just walk up to him and say, we got we got a little party

448
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.480
going on in our house. You
guys are sitting around, he says,

449
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.119
you know, so nobody's nobody's chartering
home. They're going postgame meals in in

450
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.480
Rby's, you know, And that's
It's like the world has definitely changed.

451
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.920
Yeah, no question. Okay,
So then you get out of school,

452
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.400
you become eventually become a teacher at
a school, an assistant coach. Here

453
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.559
onner loot and talk about those times, those great times with coach Oh yeah,

454
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.440
yeah, I'm going to I'm going
to go back a little bit in

455
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:30.680
eighty three when when when coach arrived. I was a freshman high school basketball

456
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.079
coach at tell Point, and I
had a little burro up my behind and

457
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.559
I wanted to coach in college.
So I went to the u of A

458
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:42.319
and met walk walked in and I
got an audience with Coach O for fifteen

459
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.039
ten minutes. Asked him, I
want to be a GA. He says,

460
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:48.880
well, we ever got my GA, son, But I want you

461
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.039
to go down and want you meet
my number one guy, Scott Thompson and

462
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.440
uh So, I go meet Scott
Thompson and Scott invites me to come work

463
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.960
camp, and I take it your
college job in New York State coaching basketball.

464
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.880
So now I'm in college and i'd
come back and work camp, and

465
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:08.559
you know, got to know coach
and coach was was an ally. I've

466
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.759
been an ally for me and somebody
that I could every now and then call

467
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.960
and ask for professional advice, and
one thing leads to another. I get

468
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.279
you know, I bounced around a
bit in the eighties. I get to

469
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.960
Butler, we do a good job
at Butler. I get to Oregon with

470
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.079
early camp first year, and then
all of a sudden, I'm able to

471
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.680
come back home to my hometown,
to my alma mater and coach to one

472
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:34.759
of the best coaches in in America
and coach add a great program to do

473
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.599
ay. So I couldn't have been
more fortunate. We're talking to Jay John

474
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:44.960
uh stupoint Catholic grad coach at Arizona, coach at CAL coach at Oregon State.

475
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:46.920
Go back to that. You know
when you when you first got on

476
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.720
the staff in Arizona, first game, right, You're gonna sit on the

477
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.559
bench and the whole deal. What
was like that for you when you walked

478
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.720
into Michale. Uh, you know
for a game. Well, I will

479
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.079
tell you this is a lot different
than being a visitor. And everybody was

480
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.720
going to stand and uh the band
was going to keep playing that riff until

481
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.240
you score it. Oh yeah,
it was just exhilarating. Honestly, I

482
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:15.720
couldn't I couldn't explain it. It
was just so it was just so awesome.

483
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.880
And yeah, yeah, it is
awesome. I don't want have to

484
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.039
say it. Well, here's another
one. I'll give you one of your

485
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.920
better experiences, if not ever.
Uh, you face Loot for the first

486
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.680
time. No one beats Loton,
none of his ex guys beat Loot,

487
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.480
and you beat him up in Oregon. I was there. You guys beat

488
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.799
him? How did that feel?
That was one of those moments. We

489
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.640
actually did win twice, once in
O four and once and O six.

490
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.759
It's one of those things where you
know you're never on footing with with the

491
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:54.079
Hall of Fame and legendary coach no
matter where it might be, somebody that's

492
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.000
of that statue. Coach os certainly
that way a good mentor for me,

493
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.000
but it makes you feel like it's
okay for you to be in the same

494
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:06.960
in the same gym. You know, it makes you feel like you're you

495
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.159
know, your your piece of what
you're doing is is you're doing. You're

496
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.119
you found some things that are working. You're not at that stature. You

497
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.000
know. Those are teams that coach
O still had went to the n C

498
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.440
two A tournament. I didn't have
one of those, so you certainly you

499
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:27.360
certainly got them all they weren't looking. But it's still again, it just

500
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.559
makes you you've accomplished something in the
profession if you can get to that point

501
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.800
where you can take on a legend
and come ahead, come out ahead.

502
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.360
Yeah, no, it was great. I remember that first time because that

503
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:44.119
was the first time someone like you
or on a former assistant and beating them

504
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:50.800
at that level. So I remember. I remember the game too, and

505
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.440
we had a we had a freshman
that just just caught the ball and pivoted

506
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.360
from twenty eight feet away front of
the bench and it went in. And

507
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.599
I said, howly smokes, we
just might this game may run out of

508
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:06.360
time. We may just walk get
get a w tonight. Yeah. So

509
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.679
yeah, yeah, well, Jay, thanks a bunch for joining us.

510
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.199
We got to go. It goes
quickly here. I have a good luck

511
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.840
tonight. I guess you know you're
facing Arizona. Yeah, I know.

512
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:22.400
It's it's it's it's you know the
difference in this because again I'm a I'm

513
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.000
a wildcat through and through. You
know, you get close to a group

514
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.559
of kids, and kids just wear
a different shirt and matter where they go

515
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.800
to school, right, the kids, you like them, so you know,

516
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.239
for tonight, I want I want
the Bear kids to do well.

517
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.679
Arizona's in the instit institute a tournament. We're not and it can help.

518
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.039
But again, I'm a wildcat at
heart, and I love Chip Hale and

519
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:45.679
I like what they've done with the
program. It was fun to watch it

520
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:50.360
on video to see the walk off
against Oregon State the other night. So

521
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.280
manyhow Yeah, okay, Jay,
appreciate it, Thanks coaching, Thank you,

522
00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.480
all right, you guys, thank
you j John you got you got

523
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:01.840
a lot of good stories. One
of the good guys too, Yeah,

524
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.519
one really good places. All right, gotam went too fast? He goes

525
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.559
by fast. Well, i'dlucky to
interview. I was gonna say, can

526
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.280
we cut it and just bring him
back? Yeah, you know, I'm

527
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.360
looking at I'm looking at the clock
and it's just running. It went faster

528
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.719
than normal. All right, let's
take our break. Would love to hear

529
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.360
from you. Five two zero,
four, one, six, seventy four,

530
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forty. We'll be right back.
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app just searching I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to My on

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the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay got

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Ryan with us. We got about
thirteen minutes. If you guys want to

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call, please do five two oh
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563
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We haven't heard from you guys in
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busy. Yeah, so why not
just give us a call. If you

565
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heard yesterday Kurt, that'd be great. Uh, Jay, John, good

566
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to have him back, you know, and all this stuff we've been talking

567
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.400
about, you know, the old
days of the pec te you know,

568
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.280
it's get in emotional, Steve,
Well, give me give no, we

569
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.280
have time to b s. Give
me a couple of games that you definitely

570
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.679
remember. We've talked about the U
s L A yeah game. You know,

571
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.639
Yeah, there's ones and losses and
stuff and those are kind of obvious,

572
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.519
but you know, I think moments
that kind of are I don't want

573
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.280
to say under the radar, but
like you think, okay, this was

574
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:24.599
you know, this was cool.
It was when Notre Dame came to town.

575
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.480
You talk about football, Okay,
you've got football, got basketball play

576
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.199
lay and played in nineteen eighty right, and you we're like, okay,

577
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:35.599
wait a minute. In the whack, Notre Dame wasn't coming to Arizona Stadium.

578
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.159
All of a sudden, you see
the gold helmets and the and the

579
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:42.480
and the and the gold pants and
Notre Dame is here, and you're going,

580
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.559
holy crap, you know what we're
you know, how did we get

581
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.159
here? Right? You know?
One of those things, you know what

582
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.440
you know the first time we went
to a home game and USC is on

583
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.199
the field because U. C.
L A Had come here way back in

584
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.360
the day, had come here before, but not USC. All of a

585
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.199
sudden, you're playing U. S
C. And you know, and and

586
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.480
for me, you know, Jay
Jay talked about you know, there was

587
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.360
always a pack a pack eight game
you know on TV here on Saturday,

588
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:13.519
and you watched the game and these
are the schools that you saw on TV

589
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.239
and you go, wait a minute, that's that U. S C.

590
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.280
The one that's you know, plays
in the LA Coliseum. They're here the

591
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.440
first time. All those things you
know, started to happen. Uh.

592
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.079
We're kind of moments where you go, you know, okay, this this

593
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.840
is this is really cool and I'm
glad Arizona did this, even though I

594
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.480
know us he's gonna kick our asses. Right yeah, well you you talk

595
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.840
about that, I'll go, I'll
go. Big games during my time,

596
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.519
well even before my time. And
you you saw this because I think you

597
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.000
may have been covered when Duke came
down here for the Festival classics, right.

598
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.639
Uh, those big those were right, big games. Uh. And

599
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.440
I wish they had a feastbal Classic
and they handed handle it that way where

600
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.360
you know, four games four days, two days, three days because they

601
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:00.480
had in between games they have no
game, no game, but fantastic teams,

602
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.079
parties, dinners, stuff like that. Uh. And it was a

603
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.760
place to be so so that but
ended up in the Pac twelve, you

604
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:12.800
know when Stanford came here and beat
them. Yeah, and the first storm

605
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.079
and it was a big store.
It was a big deal. No,

606
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.760
it was a court storm by by
other people or no, Arizona one,

607
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.960
but Stanford against Azona be number one. The court storm, which never happened.

608
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.880
Yeah, never happens. And you
know where I always remember, well,

609
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.119
we always like anytime Arizona got beat
on the road, there was a

610
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.239
court storm. You go, guys, you know this is happening more often,

611
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.639
you know, sure, you know, you know, as we say,

612
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:37.679
you know, act like you've been
there. Then all of a sudden,

613
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.400
Arizona beats the number one team in
the country on it's court. Yeah,

614
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.679
and here they come, right,
you know, right, how about

615
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.599
how about and you were here?
I was not here the bokshot, yeah,

616
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.599
I said, I well, I
saw that as a fan. I

617
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.440
was sitting in the I was sitting
in the corner, so my view of

618
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.119
it. They it happened on the
far side of the court for me,

619
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.079
but I was sitting in the corner, so I saw the trajectory of the

620
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.599
pass and the whole bid. I
was right in line, and I'm like,

621
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.400
in that instant. It happened fast, but I thought he's gonna score

622
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.800
and he did yeah, yeah,
yeah, and and you know yeah,

623
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.199
I mean, now you know that
was a huge one. Again, I

624
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.679
was still a fan. I wasn't
I wasn't covering sports when they you know,

625
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.719
when when they, you know,
eight eighty six, they won the

626
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:24.519
championship. I was in sports,
but I wasn't covering the team when they

627
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.400
won the Pack the Pac ten Championship
for the first time. But you know,

628
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.239
I'm here's here's this one's gonna sound
goofy. I remember when they hired

629
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.199
Ludolsa. I had no idea how
big a deal it was. Three I

630
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.400
had no idea. I'm just like, Okay, we got a new coach

631
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.800
and he coached at Iowa. I
mean, how good is that? Right?

632
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.719
I'm be like, who is he? You were twenty three show because

633
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.119
I was eighty three. I would
have been twenty four eighty three. Well,

634
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.360
yeah, well what happened in early
eighty earlier eighty three, so I

635
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.440
was still twenty four years old.
But I'm like, I don't know who

636
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:58.159
this guy is and he's from Iowa? Is he any good? It was

637
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.119
just in the final four? Is
any good? I guess, you know,

638
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.800
I guess yeah. And that changed
the kind of the complexion of Tucson.

639
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.480
Yeah, the complexion of Tucson and
sort of Tucson. It's sort of

640
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.800
you know you By by that time, football had kind of said okay,

641
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.639
we're competitive in football. Basketball had
not been, especially the year before,

642
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.000
and it's kind of like, okay, now, you know we're we feel

643
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:23.360
like we're grown up in football.
Are we going to be grown up in

644
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.719
basketball now? Yeah? And you
you were and you were they were.

645
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.760
So there's a couple of other ones. Obviously, Uh the Derek Williams block,

646
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:36.199
yeah against Washington. That was big, but there's been there was much

647
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:37.880
bigger. Get there. I was
gonna say, there's so many people that

648
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:44.440
you know with we call it recency
bass when they say name a big moment

649
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.559
in Arizona basketball at Michale and they
throw in the block by Derek Williams against

650
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.840
Washington, Like, guy, well, that was that was a great play.

651
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.679
But that was come on, that
was like I remember they did the

652
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.599
serviy like four or five years ago
and big plays or that was the number

653
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.000
one I think you were. Are
you talking about Matt mellbox steel against against

654
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:06.079
Duke you know in ninety one,
you know in the game that was in

655
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.480
like double overtime or something like that. A ball's going not a ball,

656
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.000
not steal a save, a ball's
going out of bound. He saves it.

657
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.559
Arizona scores, they win this game. Uh you know those kinds of

658
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.119
I'll give you another one. Salim
hits the shot over a Flollo from from

659
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.039
forty a mile out, a Kaylin
Clark shot, right, Yeah, it

660
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.559
was playing the final moments of the
game. That was a fantastic over U

661
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.960
c l A. Right, you
beat Ucla, you beat Duke. It's

662
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.840
like it's Washington. Yeah, yeah, no, I know everybody was afraid

663
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.880
I was going to lose to Washington
in this game. But it was Washington.

664
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:38.239
It wasn't you know, right,
and anybody want to call it that

665
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.920
to these quick moments you have them
in football, I have him in basketball

666
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.519
so many well, a loss when
Ucla came here and beat the streak and

667
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.360
we talked about this a lot when
we have Authic and we have these guys

668
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:53.960
because he was not in the game
at the time, so shocky. Yeah,

669
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.960
yeah, that one was shocking,
right, I mean it was U

670
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.440
c l A. And I guess
if you're going to lose that streak,

671
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.400
better to lose it to Ucla than
sorry. J John Caller, Oregon State.

672
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.480
I'll give you another game that was
just bizarre in how they want When

673
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.400
Buddinger got his face stepped off.
Yeah, and they were down by like

674
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.679
seventeen eighteen and then came back and
won the game. Yeah. And there

675
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.800
was a UCLA game like that too. Oh yeah, yeah, same,

676
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.320
same. Actually, uh they played
Oregon Oregon State and it happened twice in

677
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.400
the same year. Oregon State came, they beat the Oregon State and they

678
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.000
beat UCLA in the same fashion,
came storming bath. Yeah. Yeah,

679
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.719
no, yeah. We could go
on and on about great moments, great

680
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.039
moments in baseball, you know,
some of the softball wins, and we

681
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.880
don't know, we didn't even know
about women's basketball. They've beat in Stanford

682
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.960
here a few times, a couple
of times, a couple of times.

683
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.199
You had to cover. You had
to do those games scoring I did.

684
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.360
I did the latest one. I
did the latest one, but I the

685
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.199
first one. I wasn't. I
wasn't doing that that yet. But you

686
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.760
know, and look, you know, you know, let's take this call.

687
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.199
We got somebody calling in, Hi, you're on the air, eye

688
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.840
on the ball, Hey, guys, how you doing. What's going on?

689
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.679
Howard? Hey? Yeah? Leigh? And they had the McMillan shot

690
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.719
was really good, but the coolest
thing I'll ever forget and I don't know

691
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.440
exactly which game it was. It
was around the holidays, it was right

692
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.840
before Steve got there. Probably what
about eighty six, Jay, when the

693
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:23.960
U of A was down by eleven? Was it at home? It was

694
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:28.239
about two minutes and they won the
game. That was just crazy. I

695
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:37.800
can't remember which one that was,
but do you vaguely remember it that McMillan

696
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.639
he was Maybe that McMillan game.
I don't know. I'm saying this is

697
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.679
like telling Jay he was about five
eight gorgeous talking about Okay, there is

698
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.400
one that I do remember like that, and it was it was Loot's first

699
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.960
year and it was sort of the
year that towards the point of the season

700
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.840
where all of sudden things turned around. But they were down nine to a

701
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:02.199
s U at a s U with
thirty seconds left in the game and came

702
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:07.239
back and won that game. That's
the one like that that sticks in my

703
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.719
brain is like, not only did
they win that game, but it was

704
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:15.840
a SU at their place. Eddie
Smith and and and and uh Pete Williams

705
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.840
and those guys, you know,
coming back with thirty seconds left in the

706
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.639
game. I would have been ned
walk at the time. Okay, you

707
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:28.119
remember that one. Oh so it
was it around that was around the holiday.

708
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.960
It was probably one of the first
pack. Yeah, it was early

709
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.559
in I think it was pretty early
in the pack Puffs Impact ten seasons.

710
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.360
Yeah, because I just remember.
I think it was snowing. It was

711
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:39.920
almost snowing. I think was one
game I'm talking about. Yeah, I

712
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.239
can't. I don't remember that one
when you're saying eighty six ish, Yes,

713
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.360
it was right around eighty six.
Yeah, and it was right on

714
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.840
it was. I think it was
snowing in Tucson that day because I was

715
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:57.159
we were hanging out in Rio Cancion. Oh my god, I lived there.

716
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.519
It wasn't the same, but it
wasn't the same bun a Venture.

717
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.880
It wasn't Texas Tech. That was. That was. That was a tournament

718
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.719
with those two teams. That's just
game. I wish I remember what that

719
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:13.000
watch. I don't have that one. It was down eleven, was about

720
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.960
two minutes left, yah boom.
I don't have that. I don't have

721
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.039
that one. That doesn't happen anymore. Well, yeah, well, you

722
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:24.199
know sometimes occasionally occasionally, Howard,
are you okay? The sons are done

723
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.440
and everything's okay, up there.
I'm okay, you've got the last time,

724
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.280
and you weren't. I talked to
Steve. Had to be at a

725
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.440
funeral. I didn't tell you,
guys, I fell off a ladder too,

726
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.719
Did I tell you that? What
the hecky? What are you doing

727
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.000
up on a ladder? Come on? No, don't know. I should

728
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.880
have went down to my roofers ladder
because you know, I'm building my garage.

729
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.280
I tore down the old car port
and there's a beautiful garage. I'm

730
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.440
just she rocking it. So that's
when is that your doghouse? You're fixing

731
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.679
up your doghouse from the wife.
Oh my god, it's so fancy.

732
00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.440
It really is fancy, and it's
got all the belt was a store built

733
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.519
by through a storage remount. I
have to get a permit for that,

734
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.400
but permitted and uh anyway, my
roofer shouldn't have worked on the Easter,

735
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:12.840
which was a few weeks before.
Guess how far he sell? Ten feet?

736
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.920
Twenty eight feet he was. You
know, he's lighter than me and

737
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.159
still gravity. You shouldn't have been
working on eastern j J fell three feet.

738
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:28.880
Yeah, I fell three feet.
I heard him say that, Yes,

739
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.840
I heard him we gotta go,
Howard, thanks a bunch of guys.

740
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:38.199
Yeah, thank you. Yeah,
that game, Jay eleven, I

741
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.320
don't know. There were a few
of those games. They were down like

742
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:47.199
eighteen right the second half. It
came back one seasons the Organ State game.

743
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.960
I have that pension to either be
killing him or they get down and

744
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.960
they race back. Well the Florida
game, Uh that was a Sean Miller

745
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.559
game. But that Florida game,
they were down a bunch right right,

746
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:00.960
and I was and they you know, they turned it around and won that

747
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.840
and when that came So look a
lot of great moments and there'll be some

748
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.400
more, right Kansas. Those coming
to fifth said, yeah, creating some

749
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:14.199
new memories. But uh, you
know when we're talking about going back to

750
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:15.360
you know, nineteen seventy eight,
I mean, Jay, John, you

751
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.519
talked about the court storming when they
beat U C l A here and uh,

752
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.880
you know and that kind of stuff. A friend of mine went to

753
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.239
the thing on the South Side with
the U A coaches. You saw that.

754
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.440
I'm sorry, Facebook Murphy was there. Yeah, and Brennan all that

755
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.760
says He says, h I met
Brennan. What a good guy. What

756
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.159
a just a normal dude. Yeah, I said, yeah, he's just

757
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.519
a normal dude. He would you
couldn't point him out in the mall and

758
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:45.000
say that's the head coach of football
football. You know, you're one hundred

759
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.280
percent correct. Again, I hate
the I hate these the word unassuming because

760
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.079
that sounds like plain. But you
know, just kind of like, you

761
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.719
know, like like Tommy Lloyd,
just kind of an average guy making his

762
00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:00.280
way around town and and you know, and then he's a multi million dollar,

763
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:02.440
you know, head head coach at
a major university. You know,

764
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:08.280
the time needed Tommy at at at
Canes, Yeah, I was gonna say,

765
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.679
and then it was kind of early
in his time here. Yeah.

766
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.920
Yeah, I was sitting there at
Canes and the T shirt and and Jim

767
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.719
shorts and you know, having some
canes and nobody going up and bothering him

768
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:23.360
asking for We went to lunch somewhere
nearby campus, and it was like his

769
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.360
first three or four months, and
we kind of just walked and we just

770
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.920
he wanted to get the Bible,
what what to expect. So we talked

771
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.599
and he pulled out his credit card
blah blah blah, and the waitress didn't

772
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.800
have any idea and like nobody really
knew what I'm taking. How refreshing it

773
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.519
is. Come somewhere and not being
harassed, right, you know, if

774
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.639
you're the coach. I'm sure now
that's not the case. But back then,

775
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.519
his first few months, first few
months, and I'm like, Okay,

776
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.159
there's Tommy hanging out. Yeah,
you know, decided to go over

777
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.719
to canes and get them. Your
brother run into him like somewhere, and

778
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.880
he just had them at union.
Yeah, he bought some drinks. Pretty

779
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.840
funny. All right, We're at
the top of the hour. We've got

780
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.119
breaking news coming up. Ryan says, there's a whole bunch and I think

781
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.719
there is, so uh, stick
around for breaking news, and then we're

782
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.599
gonna have Ben Lors. We're gonna
talk Arizona swimming. He's the new the

783
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.239
newest coach at on campus, so
we'll see what he's what his impressions are

784
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.400
of his new job and his new
campus. So stick around for all that

