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That's me, Welcome to my side of the crystal ball. I always
tell you we got a great show, and that's because we always do have
a great show. And my guest tonight is someone who's taught me a great
amount. Her name is Nicole Ancinette and her podcast and her show on Facebook
is Guiding Echoes and she's also on YouTube and incidentally channeler, psychic, teacher,
healer and brilliant with social media. And she's going to be with me
on the Experts sitting in the Experts yare, and she's also the main event
before you. And of course there's going to be a WWRS and incidentally it
is a direct result of my conversation with Nicole. Tonight's WWRS. Will stick
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ww RS. We are unique. There is no other being in the universe
just like us. Each one of us are different and we see things from
different points of view, and each one of us has different skills, abilities,
awareness and talents where different, but we're the same where people were humans.
Several years ago, like maybe twenty five, I decided to have a
major change in my life and moved down to outside of Toronto into this small
town called Beamsville, rather near Niagara Falls, Ontario. It was a brand
new neighborhood. The subdivision had not yet been started. It was just a
big field and we bought My partner and I, Deborah, we bought our
house from plans and everybody had done that and we were waiting for our houses
to get built. I decided that I wasn't going to tell anybody in the
new neighborhood what I do, and I was going to be incognito as Robert
Lindsay Mill in the small town of Beamsville, and I was just going to
see how people would respond to me as a person. A friend of mine
was part of the development team for the construction site and he had been to
me for several readings, and I told him I wasn't going to tell anybody
I'm psychic. But he happened to mention to the construction foreman, this man
whose name was Hugh O'Malley, and he was a tough old irishman from Belfast,
a really good guy. He was a finishing carpenter and and he was
the supervisor of construction for the entire subdivision. And my friend told Hugh what
I do, and Hugh started asking me a lot of questions. So I
told him that I would answer any questions about being psychic on the condition that
he doesn't tell anybody what I do. We both agreed, and he started
asking me questions. And over the six to eight months, he asked a
lot of questions about being psychic. And I am almost always patient with people,
and I share my knowledge and information. All right, now we move
into our beautiful house. We've been there for a couple of months. One
day I'd get home from work, drive you from downtown Toronto, and Debra
says to me, Robert, look at this news this article in the magazine.
It was Martha Stewart Living. I didn't know Martha Stewart living, so
anyway, she showed me and Martha had put pegboard on the wall. I
think it was in her pantry or something. And Deborah said, I would
really love to have pegboard on in the garage. And I thought, well,
how difficult could pegboard be to put on the garage and I said,
okay, well I'll do that. She gave me the magazine with all the
instructions and details, and I thought, of Martha can do it. I'm
sure I can do it. Saturday morning comes around. I get up really
early, drive down to the small store, the hardware store in a small
town. It was about twice the size of a seven eleven store, by
the way, So get into, you know. I go in, I
you know, I shoulder guide the magazine and he already knows I'm from away.
So I say to him, I want to build this today. What
do I need? And he got me the material and then I said,
okay, so what do I need to put this on the one? I
said, because I have no no, no trills. So I buy absolutely
everything I need to do the job. Everything loaded up in my beat up
old jeep because I was living in the country, drove home, put everything
in the garage down on the garage floor, and then looked around and said,
now what hewn am I going to do? And I just looked there
and I thought, ah, well, I just didn't know what to do.
So I went out and I was sitting by the curb, feeling rather
dejected. And I looked down the road and who's driving up. Hugh O'Malley.
And remember he was a finishing carpenter and you know, in charge of
the building of the whole site. Now, sometimes people men that do you
know, men's work, physical work, building and you know, constructing and
smashing down, and they kind of looked down on guys that don't know how
to do that. And I'm one of those guys. So as Hugh was
driving up, I ran out on the road flagged him down, and I
looked at him and said, Hugh, what's the first thing you do if
you were going to do a psychic region? And I looked the man and
said, how the hell should I know? And I said, Hugh,
what's the first thing you would do if you were going to put pig board
on the wall? And and I saw him thinking, you know, it
was a wheel one around and then he said, oh, here, I'll
show you. And he got his toolbox out and brought some tools, you
know, and the saw. And he came up into the garage and he
looked around and he said, here, I'll leave the saw for you.
So I picked a saw up and I looked at it and I said,
how do you how do you turn this on? And he came over.
No, I'm not going to leave that for you. He then went over
to the wall, looked at it, looked at the pig board, did
a couple of little zip zip measurements, and then ten minutes later, all
the pegboard was on the wall. It would I still would have been working
on it. I didn't know how to do it, but I showed you
that I'm an expert at my field and he's an expert at his field,
and I spoke to him in that self respect and respect for him. Every
one of us on the planet has something good that we can do. Everyone,
if we're alive, we can do something. If we have something and
we all do. When we do it, we're doing good. So when
I say good night to you and I say do good, there's something you
can do that's good. And that's what Robert says. Tonight, I'd like
to introduce my guest tonight, and her name is Nicole Antoinette. And Nicole
Antinette has a Facebook channel and a podcast called Guiding Echoes. She's got thirty
three thousand followers. She's a psychic, medium, intuitive teacher, counselor.
Here she's really funny as she's really got a great personality. This is our
second meeting, by the way, our first interview for some reason it got
deleted and we're doing like a replay of the first one. This is going
to be just as much funner, even more so, I'd like to introduced
Nicole Antonette on my side of the crystal ball once again. Here we are
getting the opportunity to talk about what we love the most, doing our work
and glad to see you again. How are you doing? I'm doing great.
How are you? I'm doing great? So you've been a functioning,
performing professional psychic. Is that what you would call yourself a professional psychic?
For? How long? Now? It's been about ten years now? Wow?
Yeah, I know right? How did that happen? So? The
way I even discovered that I had psychic abilities, all right, I guess
I should say when I first realized that's how I could define them as such
actually came pretty much by accident. So one year I wanted to decorate my
home for Halloween, and I decided I was going to create a seance scene
in my front yard. And that seance scene was going to be modeled after
or inspired by, the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland, because I'm a Disneyland freak.
I love Disneyland. Yeah, so this was going to be my homage
to the Haunted Mansion. So I started looking at different tarot cards online and
there was a particular set that was really calling to me, but it was
thirty dollars and I didn't want to spend that much because I was being kind
of cheap and I just wanted these for decorations, so I don't want to
spend a whole lot of money on them. So I kept looking at different
cards and that one kept popping up and it was like, man, these
cards are beautiful. So I put them on my wish list and then walked
away. And I think it was like two or three days later, in
the middle of the night, I finally bought them because they were haunting me,
like, I kept thinking about these cards, and so finally one day
our one night wasn't able to sleep, got up at like two or three
in the morning, don't really remember it, and bought them. It was
finally able to fall asleep. What's funny is I forgot I had bought them
like almost immediately after. So they arrive in the mount and I'm like,
what did I order? I don't even remember ordering anything. Open up the
box. I was like, oh, my cards. What was the name
of the deck? By the way, I'm just curious. They're no longer
in print, but they were called the Wizard's Tarot. And there's a lot
of different decks now called the Wizard's Tarot, but it's not that same one
yet, It's not then had the original. Yes, yeah, it was
a gorgeous deck and I still have it. Yeah, I still have it.
So it's a very sentimental deck of cards. So when I pulled those
cards out of the box and I felt them in my hands and I was
looking at the artwork, it was just like, this is too precious to
use, Like I cannot use these for decorations, And I felt this need
to protect the cards, and so m I decided I was going to learn
how to read them. So I bought all of these. I'm kind of
one of those like go big or go home people like I ended up that
ended up buying all these different books on how to read tarot. Joined an
online group where we exchanged tarot readings, readings for beginning beginners, and I
just had a knack for it, and so I was blowing all the students
away, Like even people who had been doing this for years are like,
whoa, You're really good at this. And so shortly after, can I
just interject here for money? So you were just learning about the tarot and
you were doing better than all these people that have been doing it for so
long. Yep. Did you know the meaning of the cards because you read
about it or did you know the meaning of the cards because they talked to
you? They talked to me, Yeah, they absolutely talk to me.
Yeah, all right out, yeah, okay, Yeah. I would pull
a card and I would be like, well, I know that the three
appentacles means a mastership, but that's not what I'm getting out of this card.
So, you know, I would just go on my own tangent and
it would turn out to be correct, you know, nine times out of
ten. Actually it was more like ten times out of ten, but it
was Yeah. So yeah, Taro, I'm yeah, Taro is definitely one
of the things that I'm still very very good at and good with. Um.
So yeah, So shortly after I took the class and realized I had
a knack for it. Um I started guiding echoes and so back then,
UM, I just had a Twitter account. I put what is guiding echos?
So, guiding echos is my business? Okay, um that's where I
offer my online courses and online membership and my psychic services. And it is
also the name of my YouTube channel, and um of course people can follow
me on Instagram at and Facebook at guiding echos, at guiding echos. Okay,
guiding echos. Um So started guiding echos. And at that point I
just had like a crappy little website. Yeah it was. It was bad
man, like ten years ago. Yeah, okay, all right, this
was this was when people were just getting on the word press bandwagon, but
you still had Jumla and all these other things. So I had like this
handmade HTML site that was that was awful, but almost all websites were awful
back then, so you know, it's all right. Um So, um
I had a Twitter account and I was mostly just tweeting inspirational things and tweeting
my my um insight on different tarot cards, and so that audience actually started
growing really big, very quickly, and so I was able to start UM
getting clients that way. And what was really interesting was that once I went
professional, once I started UM working with clients, there was this fascinating thing
that happened where spirits started to come through. And I didn't really understand what
was happening at the time, because how did you know they were spirits coming
through? Um? I don't think that I really did in the beginning,
Like, I didn't really understand what was happening. But what it felt like
for me is there was definitely a presence in the room and I could feel
from what direction it was coming from. Usually it was from the front to
front left side. It would they'd come in this way, so I'd feel
them, but in my mind's eye, I would see them, and I
usually see them pretty clearly. You would actually see a four in my mind's
eye. Yeah, of course I understand that, yes, yeah, But
the combination of the presence and how strong they were in my mind, it
was so distracting that I had to stop the reading and address what I was
seeing, and I would ask my clients does this make sense to you?
And a lot of times they were able to verify that, yeah, that
was in fact someone that they knew in spirit and so and the spirits would
come forward and they would give idea and a fine information. So they would
show me what they were wearing maybe on the day of their death. They
would give me different details about themselves, like if they were someone's father or
what the relationship was. Like yeah, yeah, so I was getting a
lot of information. And remember I was not trained as a medium. At
no point had I ever been trained as a medium. So this was just
through you know, I think my energy was just opening up and inviting them
because I'd been meditating every day and working with tarot, so those two things
were like blowing everything up. Yeah and so so yeah, So I was
telling one of my friends who was also a medium, what was going on.
She's like, I think you're a medium, and I'm like, I
think you're crazy. But the more this started to happen, I realized,
Okay, I I am a medium. And so then I started going down
that path. What does that feel like when like when you set yourself I
am a medium? What was that like? It felt weird? Like honestly,
it felt it was like the the impostor syndrome kicked in immediately, and
I still have it I still have the empathy too. So it's like,
and it's your impostor syndrome. Is that what other people think that you're an
impostor, or you think yourself as an impostor, you think of yourself as
not being good enough for what you're doing, You see yourself as an impostor.
So like your self esteem in that area can be low when you're not
doing it as opposed to when you're doing it, because like when you're doing
it, you're you're you, you believe it. And then when you're not
doing it, right, okay, good, all right, So when you're
in the moment, right, when you're in the moment, all this information
is like this is amazing. Yeah, okay, that's a right, okay
yeah, and then like you know, two hours can go buy and you're
like, am I really doing what I think I'm doing? This real?
Yeah? Um? And especially you know, I think what kills creativity is
the comparison game that we all I can play with other people because we'll see
another medium who seems to be better, different psychic who seems to be better,
But when you get to talk to that person one on one, you
find out that they're just as confused sometimes as you are, like, well,
they go through the same struggles. You know, we do our job
helping people so that we can help ourselves. That's why we do what we
do. You know. Empaths, we don't come down from heaven. You
know, we fight our way out of hell. So in our fighting out
of hell, we have all kinds of things that we have to work on.
But that's what makes us good at our job, at our work,
at our calling. I think so too. Yeah, I think that.
I think that in most professions where you are working with people, when you're
serving people, you have to have a certain amount of empathy. And so
that's why a lot of psychics and mediums and healers will go through absolute hell
absolutely because they need to be able to identify the absolute pain that those other
people are going absolutely and you need to feel it to empathize and connect to
it. Yes, absolutely, yep. Um so, yeah, I started
working on the mediumship aspect. You must have been reading my mind. I
was going to ask you about that, but we are psychics, um so
I wanted to start developing that, but that actually ended up being far more
difficult than you know, for finding things on Taro yeah, because mediums fight.
I don't know if you know this. I haven't hung out with a
lot of people over my career. I haven't hung out with that many people
that do the work, So I don't know the eccentricities of my of my
contempt for hours. Gotcha. Um. Yeah, it was really it was
really confusing because psychic mediums disagree on a lot of different things. So,
you know, you'll have one psychic medium that is like, there's only Heaven
that is the only realm that people pass into, and then you'll have another
medium so it's like, well, no, Heaven's not Heaven's just one realm,
but all the other realms are all light and love, there's nothing more
than that. Then you'll have another medium who's like, well there's there's everything,
there's dark, there's like you know, and so more like that guy
or that person. Yeah, yeah, well because we see that contrast here
on our absolutely, you know. Yeah. And so it became confusing very
quickly because I wanted guidance on that path, and when I was reading all
these books that were conflicting in information, it really started to mess with my
head where it was like I didn't know what to believe anymore. And then
I started wondering if a lot of things I was experiencing was just in my
head because I had seen darker things, you know. I mean, I
wouldn't classify them as evil exactly, but maybe just like you know, if
if a lion breaks into your house, that's you know, it's going to
act out because it doesn't belong in your house. It's a lion. And
sometimes I think different energies can end up in a place they really just don't
belong in and they cause havoc because it's not where they belong. So so
it's a messy energy and I do think, you know, I wouldn't call
it evil or malicious, but it is destructive, you know, because it's
not where it's supposed to be. So, you know, I think,
I think that my willingness to learn and my desire to be guided actually did
more harm than good in the beginning, and I think that's where some of
the imposter syndrome came from, because it's like I want to I respect this
work so much that I want to be absolutely certain that what I am teaching
and what I am telling people is correct, because this work is way too
important for anything less than that. That's good. I like that, thank
you. But the catch site is that it's spirit and so I don't know
if we'll ever have that absolution until we die, you know. Transition.
When it comes time to identifying or labeling UM being psychic, I'm I'm more
of a minimalist. And instead of you know, with my with with with
the people that I mentor and and how I've taught this work, I've done
my best to keep everybody away from I'm a clairvoyant, I'm a claire sentient,
I'm I'm this uh, and just get away from it and just follow
what's going on inside rather than rather than saying you're a telepath or a medium
or you're a psychic, just do it um well and then experience it from
there well. And that's also good advice because well, first of all,
people love labels, but psychics tend to be very e electic. I have
not known a single psychic who is like, No, I'm just a clairvoyant.
No, I just work with crystals. No, I'm just a terror
reader. Like. They all have a wider range of tools and gifts that
they rely on, and intuition doesn't talk to us in just one language,
it talks to us in several and so yeah, so to be clairvoyant,
clear, sentient, and those are really just the psychic senses. So it
is a little funny to me when people are like, I'm a clairvoyant,
just do it rather than rather than label it and have an expectation and fail,
just just say what you feel. That's where I come from. But
yeah, I'm old school. Yeah, yep, so no, I agree.
I mean you have to have titles at some point. Like if I
wasn't time people i'm a psychic medium, they'd be like, what do you
do? I mean, I could still say I talk to dead people,
but when I say i'm you know, they get it. I I always
just called myself a psychic until you know, I started doing shows and stuff
and everybody had all these titles. So I decided, Okay, we'll all
be an intuitive psychic, or I'll be an intuitive psychic counselor I still do
the same thing, right, Yeah, I've I've been struggling with that for
a long time too, because it's like I do a lot of different things
as well, so it's like a my spiritual mentor my psychic mentor psychic teacher,
my spiritual teacher, my intuitive teacher, my an intuitive mentor like what
am I I don't know? Man? Right? Well, yes, of
course, because because it's you know, trying to fit into a description,
and we may not necessarily fit that description. True, and we all do
our work differently. Yeah, this is true. So yep. So we
were talking about how you discovered that you are psychic or that you are a
medium and that. So what does do you remember what it was like the
first time you accepted spirit? We're talking to you. I do remember that?
Oh wow, sure that so? Um well, I don't know if
it's the first. I don't think it's the first. Man, I don't
remember the first spirit, but I do remember. I do remember when it
was so strong in that moment where it was like, Okay, this is
real and this is what I really can do, like I am in fact
a medium. Um So, at that particular time, what happened was I
was doing a tarot reading for a client, a very lovely lady, and
as I was pulling cards for her and reading the cards, these two gentlemen
walked in and I saw them in my mind's eye. So they were these
two. Okay, So they went and didn't walk in the room. They
came in your mind, okay. Yeah. So I saw them come through,
and their presence was so strong and the image imprinted in my mind of
them was so strong that I could not continue the reading because it was their
presence was so distracting. So I stopped the reading and I told the woman
like, I'm sorry, but I have to take a break because I actually
have two gentlemen here and I believe they want to talk to you. And
so I went on to describe who these two gentlemen were. So there was
one man and they were both they were both college age kids. They were
both in their young twenties. And so one of them was wearing a hoodie
and he was crying. And then there was another gentleman like blonde hair,
blue eyed, looked like you know, he probably played on the football football
team, had his arm around the guy that was crying, that was wearing
the hoodie, and he was like it's okay, it's okay, like everything's
fine, like we're okay. So I told the woman what I was seeing,
and she was like, oh my god, I know exactly who that
is. What turned out that These were two of her friends that she had
known in college, and the one that was wearing the hoodie had gotten the
two of them into a car accident and he had been the one at fault,
and so they had both passed away, they'd both transitioned in that car
accident, and so that spirit had come forward with a tremendous amount. Okay,
I can't believe it. That's a mess. I'm sorry. I have
to sign the package if we can. Okay, I'm sorry for missing out.
Up. Sorry, that's a way. Um. So it turned out
that yeah, right, So it turned out that that the one that had
been crying was responsible for the car accident that took both of their lives,
and he was and the car accident was his fault. And so this had
happened years ago, but that spirit was clearly still carrying guilt and remorse for
it. And so when this when I told the woman the story, she
was she was just astounded and she verified, you know, everything that I
told her, and she said, well, tell him that we're all okay,
like we love and we care about him very much, like no one
blames him for anything. And so as she was saying this, like you
could feel him. I'm getting goosebumps talking about this because it was such a
cool story, and so you could feel his energy starting to lighten, and
that was the healing that he needed, like knowing he was forgiven, knowing
that people still thought of him fondly, no one was mad at him,
Like there was something about that that healed him, and I believe helped him
to be able to adjust to life on the other side without that guilt and
without that regret any longer. So it was fascinating because it was like I
saw a spirit transformation take place right in front of me. And you know,
of course I was very, very very new to the mediumship journey,
and so I wasn't aware that things like this really happened, or you know,
if they did, you know what this you know what this type of
transition or experience would look like. So is the that is the time when,
you know, after that experience, I got off the phone with my
client and I really just kind of sat and thought about that whole experience for
a while. It was that it was like, Wow, that was real,
that really happened, Like these people came through so clear, And that's
the point when it was verified to me that to me, like validated to
me that I was a medium. Okay, Um, slightly off topic,
but but but similar about about spirits. Okay, So when those two figures
came to you in your mind in your mind's eye, is that correct?
Um? And but you saw their forms, you know what they looked like
and stuff? Um, where did they live? What do you mean?
Where they are they? So? Like like like when they come to you,
where did they come from? Uh to talk to you? Like,
like where do they like like do they have their own pods? Somewhere?
Are they in a house? They they all gather on on the beast front,
Like did they have a their own home? Like? What happens there?
Because I just believe from what I've learned and tune into the other side
is everyone every person has a different idea of what their heaven is, and
so when they get to the other side, heaven looks vastly different for everybody.
And heaven is just the term that you know, we as humanity of
coined for whatever lies on the other side. Um, But it's it's different
for everyone. So people go to I would call them different layers or different
realms based on their energy based on their beliefs, based on a lot of
different things. And so for those two particular people, I'm not exactly sure
where they were, but since the two of them were together, you had
the one who was remorseful and the one who was Okay, Um, I
don't believe that they were earth bound, you know, So they weren't stuck,
they weren't ghosts. They had crossed over, but it was that one
still had a very very heavy heart and probably wasn't able to enjoy the afterlife
because that pain and that regret and that guilt was so heavy for him.
And so you will run into that once in a while where people have been
on the other side for what's years for us and maybe seconds for them,
like to them that trauma and that yeah, it can be it can still
be new because time works differently over there than it does here. Um.
So as far as where those two came from, I don't know. I
would assume that they must have been close to this woman or you know,
her family or whoever, because while I was talking her, they came through.
So so, Um, what you said is is that, um,
heaven is what we make it. So if we have a vision of what
our heaven would be like it would be like that most likely, Yeah,
I would be it would be a better version of it. Yeah, really
what would your first b Oh gosh, that's a great question. I think
that I would probably have some cool mini castle because I'll want an actual huge
place, but like a mini castle by a by an ocean. Yeah,
beautiful weather all the time. I'd be sporting barbecues because I love socializing.
So I have like the best coffee nook. Actually, I want that here.
I don't want to wait till heaven for that though, Well you can
do that. Mine is my my, my, my dream of of of
heaven would be um did you ever see the movie um Um City of Angels
and Nicholas Gays? But yeah, okay, so I would love that job.
Only have feelings there you go. Now, that would be heaven for
me doing that job as as the angel just sort of when people are passing
over or when they're going through something really big. That would be my That
would be my idea of heaven. Well, and you could, because that's
what that's what spirit guides do. You know, you could cross over and
you could sign up to be a spirit guide and help people with their the
heavy life transitions that they go through. So yeah, so that that would
be my idea of heaven. Well, there's a few others, but we'll
keep it to them. There you go. So, how do you teach
what you do? How do you teach what you do? Yeah? Well,
I mean that's a loaded question because basically, basically what I do is
when I'm working with people one on one and they're wanting to learn how to
work with their psychic abilities, I meet them where they are because everyone's at
a different level. You know, some people are just opening up. Some
people are actually very seasoned in their abilities, but maybe they shut them down
for a while because of social pressures or you know, the environment there and
whatever the cases. And so I just meet them where they are, and
I want to learn more about their experiences. I want to learn what they
love about being psychic, what they're intimidated by, what their best what their
best experience has been as a psychic, And if they could create more of
one thing as a psychic in their life, what would that be? You
know, would it be helping spirits to crossover, would it be connecting with
loved ones on the other side, would it be being able to tune into
the future, would it be healing people, you know emotionally, Like,
everyone has a different ideal of how they would use, you know, their
psychic powers. And I believe that whatever you're most inclined to is what you
already have. You just have to learn how to mold that and how to
groom it a little bit better. And so I believe we all have different
psychic gifts. And once I find out, once I'm able to really tune
into what someone wants to develop based on what their purpose seems to be pushing
them to wards, that's when I'll start to develop a plan for them.
So I don't really have a one size fits all technique for anyone. It's
very custom and individualized for that person. A lot of times I will walk
them through guided meditations that I channel as I'm working with them, so it's
not like anything pre made or pre written. I'll tune into their energy and
just kind of see maybe what needs to be healed or what needs to be
addressed. Because the thing, the reality about being a psychic is a lot
of people make the psychic world about the bells and whistles and the shiny objects,
and it's this amazing show. But really, at its core, it's
about healing. It's about being better people. It's about looking at our struggles
and being able to face them and finding the courage and the faith and the
resilience to get through them with a soft heart. And I think that's really
really difficult thing to do sometimes, because you know, life beat us down.
Life can beat us down. And so when you're able to tune into
your own psychic abilities and you're able to enhance them and work with them,
you can, in fact, I think build a better life for yourself.
Doesn't mean that you're not going to go through hell to get it, but
you can build a better life for yourself. And if you're talking about developing
your your your psychic and truitive of course, right okay, yeah, and
then you can also teach other people how to do the same because you've already
been through it. So psychic abilities are wonderful, but they're not a means
to an end. They are a tool to help us live our life here
on this physical plane because we're from here. Okay, I absolutely agree what
you said about on this physical plane and um, I agree with that,
um, And we're here, we have a purpose, we have a reason
or that we're here. Um, okay. And what I noticed over my
career is that no matter what I'm doing with someone, when I'm tuning into
them doing during the reading, It's always been something that I have understood or
experienced myself. And the reason for that is because regardless of where it's coming
from, it's coming through me. And if it's spirits, I don't know
if it is or it isn't, but but but but if it is or
the energy coming through me, they're using my body, in my mind,
and and they can only speak and use what is stored in my brain.
Um, and that would that is restricted to what's in me. So I
can't see something in someone else unless it's in me. Right, you agree
with that too, But I absolutely agree with that. Yeah, we'll see
and see. I have this weird theory that TV makes us better psychics,
and a lot of people would fight with me on that because they talk about
how TV blinds your third eye, and I'm like, you know, way,
give me. TV allows us to have experiences that we will never have
in real life, Like I hope to god I never have an actual die
Hard movie experience like I don't ever want to go through that, right,
But there are a few movies I would like. Star Wars would be rat
I'm all about that. That'd be cool. I want to Wars. Yeah.
I would My other dream job to two fantasies for me is I would
love to be um uh uh an adviser to a ship's captain um like like
uh like like Diana Troy pardon, oh, oh, you're talking about us.
Yeah, I would like the Enterprise, Yes, I oh, I
would love to be uh, you know, ship's counselor on a starship.
That would be. That would be my dream job, yep. And the
other one would be I would love to meet a real beta zoid and take
psychic lessons from her, I suppose, and I hope us or her right
or her or him right, so that that would be my second fantasy.
That'd be amazing. Yeah. Yeah, well, and see, I think
it's I think it's actually through those wonderful stories that we see on television that
our minds are expanded. And when you're an EmPATH or HSP, you empathize
with the characters and what they're going through, even if you've ever been through
it yourself. And so I do think that there's something to actually television being
an amazing tool because in a reading, you know, as you're as like
you were saying, spirit can only work with the images and the understanding that
you have. Yeah, So if spirits trying to show you something that you've
never been through before, they might and this has happened to me, I
don't know if it's happened to you before. They will show me a scene
from a TV show. You're far more visual than than I am. You're
you're You're much more visual. For me, it's just knowing and the words
come through, So I don't I don't usually get those, you know,
Um, I don't get the really happy scenes, and fortunately I don't get
the really awful ones either. It's it's more of a thought and a feeling
rather than seeing. Yeah, I get, I get all of it,
and it just I think it depends on because I do work with with spirits,
though, I think a lot of it has to do with, um,
how they like to communicate. So if someone came comes through in a
reading and they were like this vivid talker, then they're going to talk my
ear off and I'll tell my client, well, this person's a talker,
and they'll laugh and they'll be like, oh my gosh, yeah she was.
But then you'll have other spirits who are super quiet and they don't say
much, and so I'll ask my I'll ask my client, was this person
either very private or very shy and they'll say yes. In the moment I
get the yes from them is when they'll start to open up a little bit
more. But yeah, spirits keep their personalities on the other side, So
if yeah, so, if they were really quiet, those can be the
worst to do readings with because it's fine and and and and the ones that
are quiet on this side also can be really paying readings for right, Yeah,
because they're not they're not they're not giving they're not giving off the energy.
Yeah, they're not. They're not participating in their reading. And it's
like I don't want It's like I don't want you to talk through the reading
because obviously I need to be able to pull this information myself, but I
do need you to tell me yes or no. Right, I'm on the
right path, absolutely, especially when you ask for yeah, especially when you
ask for usually at that point I'm begging, right, but please giving something?
Yeah, Yeah, put the energy. Yet, So what do you
love the most about doing your job and being you doing your job? What
do you love the most about it? Well, I love the thing I
love about me doing my job is I feel like that's when I'm at my
most authentic self. That's when I'm really Yeah, it's when I'm really in
tuned with my own spirit. It's when I'm in tuned with the field,
with the spirit world, and it's when I'm not even focused on myself.
It's when I get to focus on someone else and help them through something.
And so it is, yeah, absolutely, And so my favorite part about
the job that we do is hearing the relief in someone's voice when that spirit
does come through, or hearing the sigh of relief again when you tell them
things are going to be okay. It's that relief or that that lightness that
you feel in their energy when you realize that they have some hope now.
Because a lot of times, as a psychic or as a medium, or
as a healer and whatever label you want to put on there, we get
people who feel broken. They're not broken, but they've something's happened in their
life that's convinced them that they are broken, so they're not broken. They're
hurting, sure, they're in pain, but they're not broken. So being
able to work with these people and help them to accept either the psychic selves,
the psychic part of themselves, or the shadow part of themselves, or
whatever it is, and helping them to integrate that more is very satisfying.
But also being able to be that bridge to the other side, or to
be that person who has a phone call into the future where I can put
out some tarot cards and give them idea on where things are heading, is
very valuable and one of the things too. I think that's been a very
important lesson for me as a medium. And this is what I tell all
of my students now that are developing their psychic gifts and learning how to give
psychic gredients. Is the emotional response of someone else is not your responsibility.
You are not responsible for how they perceive, how they take, how they
use that information, or how they behave with it afterwards. You are solely
responsible for delivering that message with the most compassion and love possible. That is
all you have to do. What they do with that afterwards is on them,
and when you're able to make that distinction and when that really sinks in,
and when you give that person permission to be responsible for themselves, it
takes a load off of you because now you can function as the message giver
and you don't have to you don't have to worry about anything else. That's
an interesting concept. What is it that you don't like about our job?
You like to make different? I don't like the social stigma. I don't
like how people think that, well, if you're psychic, you should know.
It's like, that's not for breakfast, right, yeah, exactly,
it's like well, judging by your breath onions. Um, but that's yeah.
I don't, I don't. That's the thing I don't like the most
is the social stigma because it does put a lot of unfair pressure on us,
and um, it keeps a lot of people in the psychic closet,
so to speak, because they do have gifts and they do have abilities,
and they're afraid of sharing that with people because they think they're going to be
teased or they're afraid of being wrong, and those are all very valid concerns.
Um. So yeah, it's just that whole people don't understand that when
you're psychic, you have you have a sixth sense, And that's really all
most of us claim to have. But people twist that and they start to
see us as if we have these godlike powers. And it's like, well,
I've never claimed I was the God. I think we're all many gods
because we all come from sources. But I don't. I don't. I'm
not going to take credit for creating this planet in the universe, like,
that's not my thing. So so that's the thing. Is like a lot
of people try to test us as if they're testing God because they think we
should know everything. It's like, well, I'm not. I'm not all
knowing. I wish I was, and maybe not. And if you were
all knowing, you wouldn't be walking on this planet. This is true,
Okay, you would be you would be off somewhere else. Well, what
a what a struggle that would be to be all knowing? Because all knowing,
like you know everything, What is there left to learn? What is
there left to discover? Right? Yeah? Yeah, right? And so
it just do you say God would be all knowing? Well, is that
where the case would have nothing to learn? Well, I don't think that
we could God become stale? What would happen if you were praying it.
Please help me, I'm in a pissing mood today. Do you think God
would do that? Well, according to the Old Testament, Yeah, that's
exactly what it does. I don't I don't think that. I don't think
any of us have the right idea of what God is or isn't anyhow,
like my perception of God is. I do believe that there's an energy that
holds everything together. I believe this energy is intelligent. I believe this energy
creates because it loves to create. It's meant to create. I think it
loves to learn. I think it learns vicariously through all of us. I
think it's incredibly loving. But I also think it's very complex, and I
think that within that energy field there are other beings that we may call gods
or angels because we don't know how else to identify them, and they seem
to be higher up on a hierarchy than we are. Um. So you
know, I don't think that that intelligent force that creates gets in a pissy
mood. I think it's just excited all the time to be creating, kind
of like kind of like a kid who hasn't in the supply of paper pens
and markers and paint. It's just like going crazy with the markers and creating
all the time. So yeah, okay, So so God doesn't get in
a pissing merrit, I don't. I don't think okay, okay, God
is God punishing? Do you think God cares? I don't you think gods
like like the guy at the top, like the guy at the top of
the pyramid of all creation. Do you think God cares about individual um one
on one? Do you think that that would become personal for God? Well?
I think that. Here here's here's my weird belief on gods. Like
I said, I believe God is an energy, So I think it's intelligent,
But I don't think it's sitting there handing out judgments or anything but within
that creation because we're a creation of that energy, and so there's going to
be other intelligent beings and life forms and life forces that are also a creation
of that energy. And I think that those different aliens or life forces or
wherever you want to call them, can claim dominance over say like a universe
or something. So I think that's why you know, in the Protestant Christian
Bible. You have a God which is some type of being. It's not
the intelligent force that created everything, but it's some type of being that's like,
hey, I'm better than all the other gods. You gotta listen to
me, you know, everybody. It's not though, because when you when
you look at different faiths, when you look at um like Hinduism and and
you know the Roman gods and everything, there there were a lot of different
gods. And so you had the gods that were very loving and forgiving and
compassionate, but then you had the other ones that were more um, you
know, dominating. So there's there's this wide range of different gods that have
different um personality personalities attributed to them and without different qualities. And so I
think that's and I think that what people were believing to be God, we're
probably I mean, I don't want to get too weird, but probably some
type of aliens or you know that we know that they weren't of this planet,
and I do believe that they existed somewhere and we had contact with them
at some point in time, and and I think that's where a lot of
these stories come from. So you know a lot of what we have from
the Bible and from different older texts are exaggerated stories, but they are I
think a lot of them are based on something that happened, but it was
I don't know. But there's a movie it's a joke, but but I
think it's called The Gods Must Be Crazy, Okay, And it's a story
about this guy flying a biplane. You know, there was open and he's
flying along and he's going over the planes in Africa, and he's drinking from
a bottle of coke and he throws the bottle at the window or over the
side of the plane, right, and it lands in front of the bushman.
The bushman has never seen the bottle before, right, and he looks
at it and because he saw it come down from heaven, and then he
took it back to his tribe. And then the story goes from that point
onward how all the different people interpreted the purpose of the coke bottle, of
the bottle. And then there's another episode in the next generation where the Enterprise
goes into this lesser developed place and they're hiding because they're observing the culture,
and then they get recognized. So Piccard decides he's going to come down and
explain what has happened to these people. And these people thought that Picard was
God right because of what he did and what he was doing. Yeah,
and each person in that group or in that species had a different impression of
how they could deal with the piccard. And some were violent and you had
to do this because that's what the piccard wants. Some were gentle and loving
because that's what the Picard wanted, and the real Picard was going, holy
shit, that's not I'm not that person. I'm not got And I think
I think that's probably pretty close to what's actually happened, you know. I
mean I could be wrong, but I think that, Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Now you've come from a very strict, um, narrow minded um religious
background. Yes, what caused you to be able to get away? And
because you were getting away from what you were taught and you were risking hell
and damnation for doing that, what gots you have? Thank you? Well?
I didn't like who I was as a Christian, so I think that
was a big part of it. I just didn't like who I was,
you know, Christian. The type of Christians that I were around were very
judgmental, even though they preached love and not yes to be judge yourself,
right, yeah, and and I mean we have to be honest. Like
there's there's a certain amount of judging that is good because if you don't have
a good head on your shoulders and you're not judging, you know, a
situation and people's characters, that can get you into some really badswers. Incidentally,
incidentally, when you're judgmental, basically what you've done is formed an opinion.
So, Nicole, I have judged you. I've judged you you were
really great person, right, but I've judged you because because so as soon
as we have an opinion, we've made a judgment, it doesn't have to
be negative. Okay, right, yeah, yeah, this is true.
Um, But the type of Christians I was around, they were they were
very negative and so you know, they believed that, you know, they
were the like you were saying, the Turner Burne type of Christians. And
so that's what I grew up with, and I got away from that.
I tried to get away from that when I became a young adult and got
kind of pulled back into it because it's what I was programmed for. That's
right. Yeah, And um, so I went through a season in my
life where everything was going wrong. I had lost my job, my condo
was going into foreclosure. Um, some of my Christian friends had, you
know, turned on me in the most vicious ways. Um, the guy
I was seeing ended up cheating on me. It was just like all this
stuff happening at once, and I was just like, where is God in
this? And I was exhausted because it was like I was one of those
evangelists that were knocking on doors every Tuesday night. You were doing that,
did you get like spit on and yelled at? And oh I never,
I mean I would get people would roll their eyes and be like, oh
god, you know that sort of a thing. But what was interesting,
though, this is really cool. What was interesting is I always knew because
I went in groups, I wasn't by myself. So I went of course,
of course, and I always knew which house was going to accept Jesus
Christ as their personal God and say you are, so we would pull into
the neighborhood. I be like that house, we got to go to that
house right now? Okay. And so it was funny is like when people
first started working with me, they were like this girl's nuts and so um.
So we would make our rounds because we had this very distinct pattern that
we followed, and they call the sack or whatever, we have to go
to the house, not because Yeah, so we'd finally get to that house
and low and behold, you know. So yeah, so I was always
right. I was never ever ever wrung. Yeah, I guess so well.
They so they learned to listen to me. And then when we started
going places, and I was like, that house, that was the first
one we wait to hit. Because what ended up happening one time is I
kept feeling this urgency like we're supposed to be at that house. We're supposed
to be the right now. They're like, show, we're going to be
there in like, you know, ten minutes. Well, during those ten
minutes, the people that lived in that house got in the car and left.
So after that, when I start seeing certain houses like with the little
blow and the little Aura, and I was like, that's the one they
started feeling. So you know, here I was doing all this stuff for
the church and for ministries and for God and for Jesus, and I was
praying all the time and memorizing scripture and my whole life was going to hell,
and I was like, this is hell, Like this right here is
hell. So something's not making sense. And um, I ended up getting
so desperate just to have some relief from the depression and everything that I was
feeling that I turned to meditation because I was in an online forum and that's
what they were talking about, like meditation can help a lot with depression.
And I was scared to death of meditating because I'd been told that was demonic,
and so like, I decided I was going to try it. I
was so afraid I was going to be demon possessed, but I was like,
I gotta try something. So I tried this guided meditation and it helped.
It helped a lot. And what was interesting was, you know,
and keep in mind, at this point, I have no idea what clairvoyance
is, Claire audience, because I haven't been taught any of that. Yeah,
but when I closed my eyes to meditate and followed the story of you
know, you're walking by this beach, you're in a blue lagoon, I
was able to see everything very clearly. And in that meditation you were supposed
to just see a beach, but in that meditation, I ended up seeing
a man walking towards me, and he had this dog, and I fell
in love with the dog, and so I got I'm excited about this dog
and this meditation. So I started talking to the dog, and then the
guy comes up and starts talking to me. It was interesting, is that
was just like my mind or whatever doing its own thing, because you weren't
supposed to meet anyone in that meditation. And so later on when I started
talking to people about it, they're like, that sounds like you met a
spirit guide. And I'm like, well, what's a spirit guide? And
so from there it just kind of unraveled from unfolded from there. And I
do remember. I do remember one day where I my house had gone into
foreclosure and I was back at my parent's house. That's just awful, it
is. Yeah, I lost so many of my things because I didn't you
know, I couldn't put it in storage or anything. So looking back with
my parents in their molden fested house, and one day I just said to,
you know, to God or whatever was out there, I'm like,
if there's more to this than what I see, I want to sign.
I want to know, like if this isn't the right path, I need
to sign yeah and um and I said that so sincerely, And it was
like the next day I woke up and I just felt different, and it
was like there was this inner knowing of what the right path was. And
so it was through that prayer that something was able to open up in me
and I was able to kind of start the process of leaving the Turner Burn
religion behind me. And it took years to be able to you know,
shed that for good. But yeah, that's that's kind of how that that
unfolded. So it was really through depression, I guess you could say that
I found enlightenment and then just asking, like I said, gotten whatever was
out there, like hey, if I'm missing something, if there's more,
if this is wrong, like show me, and the next day just having
some form of clarity. Over over my lifetime, I have had issues with
Christians and shocking yes and and um. So so I was performing beings,
I was doing psychic things and live performances in the nineteen seventies and that was
back in the I was definitely not popular back then. Oh no, and
and and and Christians, certain Christians believed that they had the result they had
the right to interfere with my ability to make a living. Yea, and
they would they would yeah, and and and they would protest at a radio
station I would be at, or if I was doing a live performance,
um, they would show up and make so much noise I couldn't perform,
and and and things like that, like they would override me. Uh,
you know, things like that. Um. And I had been afraid of
Christians and disliked them very much, in spite of the fact that I had
had some spiritual connections and around Christianity. On my very first podcast, the
very first one, the producer Michelle recommended I have these two guys on the
show, and it was the two mics East Coast Mike, West Coast Mike.
And these guys are Christians there there, they're pastors. They've been around
like like for twenty five thirty years, and I was really afraid to have
them on because of my relationship with Christians. And these guys but they're also
behavioralists and they they're very well educated in other areas, and I was really
afraid and nervous with them most of the time. And then finally I confessed
that I was afraid of Christians, and I told them why and instead of
the stick that they had, the two of them both got very very serious
and East Coast Mike said to me, he said, we're just just settled
down here, and he said, what happened to you is there is the
business of the church, and then there is the spirituality of the church.
And the business church is the part that hurt you and have hurt a lot
of people. And it's the spiritual side of the church that would not do
that to you. And I thought about it more and more and from that
podcast, well, I'm not a Christian and I'm not going to be one.
I had a different relationship with Jesus, and I separated Jesus and Christians,
and I had a different connection and saw things very differently. It was
a very healing experience. And it's interesting that you mentioned that because a lot
of the people that I work with, whether it's giving them a psycho Gredian
or mentoring, a lot of them have that Christian ground and they do walk
away from the church so they can keep their faith in Christ and so they
do recognize that the Church, whatever it is supposed to be, that's not
what it is anymore, and so to protect their own spiritual faith in their
sanity, they have to walk away. So, yeah, what a fascinating
interview and talk that we have had today. It's great, how wonderful.
And this is our second one, you know, and it's even better than
the first. So how do people get hold of you? If they want
your teaching, your guidance, you're reading, your spirituality, or just want
to see your pretty face? How do they get in touch with you?
There's a few different ways. So they can my web they can visit they
can visit my website. I mustit their website. They can visit my website
at guiding Echoes dot com. Um. My most active communities though, are
on you tube and on Facebook. So on YouTube every Monday I release a
new video, and lately I've been doing a series that teaches people how to
connect with their deceased loved ones on the other side, and so that teaches
them how to do that. Even if they're not psychic and they're not intuitive,
they can still learn how to do it. So that's been my recent
series on YouTube. And then they can also follow me on Facebook and Instagram,
and the handles on that are always going to be guiding echos. And
by the way, Instagram has had a huge problem with people impersonating psychics,
and so I am guiding echoes. There's not going to be an underscore,
there's not going to be an additional s in my name. It's going to
be at guiding echoes that will be spelled correctly. Because scammers are recreating different
profiles and so they're adjusting the names, and so people will go to the
fake guiding echoes thinking it's me, but the real guiding echos is at guiding
Echoes and it to spell correctly. So there you go. That's athaking contact
to me. It has been a delight, thank you, thank you as
wonderful to be here. Wow. That brings us to the end of another
really special, exciting and happy episode of My side of the Crystal Ball.
I'd like to thank my guest tonight, Nicole Antinette, for her positive or
happy, cheery self and her a special awareness of her abilities, her skills
and how generous she is and the way she shares it. Before I say
goodbye, I just have a couple of those old requests. If you're watching
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and above all, just be kind. Good Night, everybody,