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It's the Dearly Departed Podcast, featuring
your host, historians Scott Michaels and filmmaker

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Mike Dorsey. All right, it's
a Dearly Departed Podcast, Episode thirty five.

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Can you believe it? Happy Halloween? Yeah, Happy Hallo. I

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got my candy corn hat on,
dressed for the occasion at the candy that

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people love to hate. I love
candy corn. I'm one of the lovers.

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Do you like circus peanuts too,
I don't. I'm not well,

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I mean, i'd not like I
go out and run out and buy them.

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But they're all right. But candy
corn, especially if you get them

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with the pumpkins, Oh man,
those are the best. My teeth hurt

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just thinking about it. I wonder
if it's like a cilantro thing, where

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like some people think cilantro tastes like
soap, there's like something about candy corn

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that's um. People just their taste
buds rejected for some reason. Well,

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there was a time, I mean, I when I was I mean,

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I'm a sugar head, that's for
sure, But there was a time when

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I could just eat that stuff by
a handful. But then I just you

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know, it's like circus circus peanuts. You know, I even look at

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when I want to puke. But
uh, and the candy corner, could

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you know, it's sort of like
it's sort of like, well, if

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it's there, I have that right
right, right, it's not you're not

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gonna buy it if it's if you're
in line. Yeah, right, It's

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classic. And I like the way
it looks, you know. I like

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getting it when I was trick or
treating when I was Hey did when you

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were trick or treating when you were
a kid? Was it old? Were

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you old enough to go door to
door or was it already like parties only

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at that point? Oh? Yeah, we we I went door to door

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all all. My growing up here
is even longer than I probably should have.

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Like into junior high, we were
still going out and getting it.

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By junior high, we had figured
out that if we went to like the

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rich neighborhood, you could get like
whole candy bars. Yeah from some people.

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Um, you also got weird old
people that would give you pennies.

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And I got a pomegrant at one
year so from somebody, yeah, which

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I didn't even know what a pomegranate
it was. I was like twelve and

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it was heavy. They would they
deserve to have that put through their window,

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they really do. It was heavy
enough. It weighed my bag down.

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It was like having a softball in
my bag. It was crazy.

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But my mom cut it open when
I got home so I could see like

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the seeds inside, so I got
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So it was a teachable moment.
But I'm sure this old lady had a

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pomegranate tree in her backyard and that's
just what she gave the kids. You

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know, Yeah, give me cash, I'll take cash. It's okay.

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Yeah, I mean, you can
give away pennies, but quarters those can

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add up by the end of the
day, you know. Um No,

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I was old enough. The eighties
for everything was scary because they thought they

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were putting like razor blades and drugs
and everybody's candy. But we were still

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doing it. We're still risking.
Yeah. Um, I don't think we

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introduced ourselves. I'm Mike Dorsey,
I'm Scott Michaels and what are we doing?

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One of my favorite movies of all
time, The Ghost and Mister Chicken.

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I never thought there would be enough. I mean, I just love

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this movie. And I sort of
kind of didn't want to analyze it because

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I like it so much and I
want to. It's like Sunset Boulevard.

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I haven't watched on Tip Boulevards since
we talked about it because I like the

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movie so much. I don't want
to. I don't want to, you

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know, like I don't want to
see it all the time. I wanted

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to be like when you like a
song a lot, you don't want to

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overplay it so you get tired of
it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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But but it was fun to watch
this thing. I've watched it twice in

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the last couple of days, and
it's it's just it gets It doesn't get

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boring at all. I don't know
how you felt about it, but it's

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like a slice of childhood for me. And it just looks good, it

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sounds good, the colors and everything. It's just it's it's it's Halloween the

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way I love it. You know. It's it's not jump scares, It's

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not you know, uh people getting
there, you know, next sought open

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or something like that. You know. I just like the I like the

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innocent, very haunted mansion. I've
said this before, but I'm a very

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Haunted Mansion person. I'm not a
Friday the thirteenth person. It's it's fun

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spooky. Yeah. Yeah, the
Halloween movies, I will feed into that,

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though, I will. I have
seen them all. I just did

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you see the new one? That
the new Halloween. I'm not a big

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horror guy. No, No,
I'm not eager. But I did like

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it. No, I shouldn't say
that I love I like horror movies a

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lot. I do, but I
do. Yeah, I mean I like

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a psychological thriller. Horror is more
my thing, yeah, more than horror.

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Horror, right, I don't.
I slasher movies out my thing.

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Jump scar is not my thing.
But there's got to be some kind of

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edge to it. And uh and
uh yeah so anyway, but I like

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the Halloween movie. People are really
lambasting it. But there are Halloween purists,

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you know, there are Halloween you
know bananas. They're bananas some of

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the people. And then good for
them. You know, everyone's got to

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have a passion. But uh but
yeah, I don't. I thought it

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was fun. I thought it was
fun anyway cool I could have this is

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I'm cracked open my like, I'm
down to about six of these Oh no,

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I know, I know, I
know they expired over a year ago.

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There has to be a plant somewhere
like in like Uzbekistan or something that

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is still making tabs that you can
like get a connection to, you know

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what, like how Mexico kept making
VW bugs through like the eighties and nineties

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even after they stopped making them.
You know, the main company, like

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there has to be like black market
tab. Well, they do have it,

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and I guess, I guess it's
if you want to keep the patent

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or the trademark on it, you
got to have it available somewhere. And

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there is a cocacoa store in Vegas
that sells tab on tab but but no

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cans. That's interesting. Um,
so you're you're like a tab hunter.

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Oh that's a good one name that
will come up out in the name that

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will come up today in the show, everybody, we are on a spreaker

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now. We moved over from pod
being with our last episode, um,

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and we are on spreaker um because
Spreaker lets us make a little bit of

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ad revenue. So you'll probably hear
a few ads in this, but not

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too many. UM. I don't
like to overdo it. You want to

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go into hate mail. Sure,
hate mail. So I've collected some I've

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collected some comments and some of them
are well, I'll just go into it.

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Mister Michaels, I cannot understand what
you were saying, and you speak

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in such a way that captioning doesn't
work. Hire a professional speaker to narrate

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your videos. We need to dub
over your part of the podcast with someone

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who speaks English. Scott. Obviously
it's a good one. So um,

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all right. So the next one, let's see, this was on my

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Jane Mansfield car. I did this
whole documentary about Jane Mansfield, and you

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have her death car that she was
in when she died, right, and

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I went to I did the whole
thing. I went to, you know,

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the nightclub where she worked. I
went to the place where they stopped,

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the whole route. I drove the
whole route, and we went to

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the place where the car ended up
and where they Yeah, so somebody did

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write in which I think is kind
of funny actually that when you're when you're

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a celebrity, people would keep you
keep even your fart if they could.

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It's true. It is true.
I didn't even know it's just like,

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you know, I like that.
It was pretty funny. Uh oh.

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And also in that same video,
Mama Cass also died in this accident.

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She was sitting next to Jane eating
a ham, eating a ham sandwich and

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she chucked to death when the car
smashed up. That was clever. So

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what killed her? The sandwich or
the car? Cran Good question, good

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question. Answer that she just got
her star on the Hollywood Walk of famecast

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Elliot, Dude, isn't that first? Yeah, it's long overdue. There's

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a lot of people that don't deserve
stars, and it's nice that she that

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she did. Yeah, another nice
comment. The dead will blight your ass,

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Well he's ours, Actually, the
DEVI will blight your ours for keeping

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that car as a trophy. So
I guess they're going to come after me.

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Well you know when you get when
you're ask is blighted. Now you

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know why? Right the divine death
room I did? Why give attention to

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a not so divine nothing burger?
People need to make Jesus their lord.

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What some think is entertainment is disgusting. Your divine hotel doors like one of

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my favorite things that you have in
your collection, scot and the photo of

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it on the roof of your jeep
is like iconic, that is it's actually

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there's a comment about that too at
the end of this which I would quite

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like. I did one in Glenn
Quinn, you know the guy from Rosanne,

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the irishman who was died of an
overdose. He was Becky's boyfriend.

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And uh, you know again,
I went through the whole bit. I

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went to with a nightclub he owned
and everything, And I mentioned went to

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where he died, and went back
to where he died, and went to

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the grave, to the funeral home, in a whole bit. And I

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said. The first thing he did
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was giving Gwyneth Paltrow her first on
screen kiss and h and the comment after

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watching this video, it's Gwyneth,
not Gwyneth. But I did respond when

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he said it's Gwyneth, it's Gwyneth
not Gwyneth, I wrote, it's douche.

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Another comment inside the Divine Death Room, mat Man. The met comments

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are the best, that they're honest. The fact that you drove down Sunset

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Bull of our Divine's door strapped to
the roof of your car's possibly the most

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Scott Michael's thing I've ever heard Bravo. Yes, I think that was quite

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a compliment. Actually, it's amazing. I wipe I do something Scott Michael

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Z one of these days. That
was funny. I just never heard.

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I just that's it's it's I forget
that people even you know, pay attention

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to stuff like that. So it's
kind of neat to get a shout out

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in that regard because it was ridiculous. I mean it was. It was

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ridiculous. Yeah, that was We
saved it from demolition. Yeah, it's

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a good thing. Oh god,
we did that thing too. I had

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my Dodge Colt and this back when
I took George George Burne's door from his

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house when he's being demolished the closet. We didn't even strap We couldn't even

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strap it down were it was a
metal top Dodge called stick shift. So

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I'm holding it once a side,
driving with my fate, with my knees.

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My buddy Stevens got him on the
other side, and I'm shifting and

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we're driving through Beverly Hills. That
was like at like two in the morning.

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That was That would have been an
amazing accident. To explain Yeah,

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honestly, Yeah, that was that. We went back for a second one.

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That's the thing. We went through
doors. We went back and got

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a second one. Yeah, that
was a good story. Steve and I

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had some good adventures. U.
We've had some mostly positive notes from people,

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people thanking us for various episodes we
did and always recommending ones um one.

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A good recommendation was Bethany messaged us
on Facebook recommending an episode on River

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Phoenix and I wonder if we couldn't
do there's a bigger River Phoenix tie in,

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something on the Viper Room or Sunset
Deaths or something like that would be

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interesting. Yeah. I went there. I mean, he's not twenty seven

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Club, but he's we could be
that twenty three club or an hour old

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he was, you know, it
couldn't We can't make your own genre.

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I mean we did. She was
in our first ever documentary ever, did

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our first deally Departed Dockwe did that. They're about to tear that block down,

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yeah boy, yeah, we should
do something with that. We should

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just yeah, we should do something
something with that block. I did a

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little video just walking around you,
but it would be neat to be able

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to wish we'd get access, you
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slowly I mean they're empty. Some
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renewing leases anymore. So um,
yeah, that makes me too sad for

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words. But but yeah, that's
a good idea. It was. Yeah,

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they're about to tear down the old
kmart across the street from the grove,

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so you know, nothing's sacred anymore. My mom when she came to

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Hollywood in forty seven, took there. You should be a shopping center called

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Town and Country on that lot.
But uh, but yeah, there was.

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I've got a picture that my mom
took in forty seven. Whatever,

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All right, Uh, shall we
get into the main feature. It's time

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for the main feature. Do Murder
and Calm go together? Calm and Murder,

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The Ghost and Mister Chicken starring Don
Nutts, the nineteen sixty six horror

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comedy film from Universal Pictures, who
also, of course did the Universal Monsters

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films, which we did a show
about and you know in the thirties and

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forties, and it was neat because
they did shoot it on Universal. I

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didn't realize that street was called Colonial
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what they called it. I've seen
that house, that house in a lot

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of different shows, and uh,
i've see we watched Adam twelve all the

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time too, or in Adam twelve
and Rock Perot Files, we watched them

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constantly, and that house shows up
so many times in so many episodes.

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And next to that house, it's
the Munster's House, and you can't see

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it in because it was popular I
think at the time, and so they

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used big hedges to hide it.
But the Munster's House is on right next

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door to that Ghost of Mister Chicken
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I believe they were shooting munsters,
and but that that street ended up and

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showing up in UM God it was
it was well most probably most completely and

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Desperate Housewives they use it as Wistaria
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Burbs was another one that they used
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the plot of the film is there's
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Simmons Mansion. That's what we're talking
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on Despero Wives, That's what I
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in Harvey, which was, you
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film. There was a cool house. And I think it's still there.

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a picture of it. I think
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house certainly is. It doesn't look
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is still there. Most of the
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kind of cool. That's cool,
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The music reminded me a lot of
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I find out that it was written. The score for Mister the Ghost and

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Mister Chicken was written by Vic Mizzy, the famous television scorer who wrote the

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theme for the Adams Family and also
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you go. That's kind of explains
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as well. Yeah, he did
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Munsters Go Home movie soundtrack too,
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scored uh, the rest of the
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Incredible Mister Limpett and the Reluctant Astronauts
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one other thing that he did.
I forget what. Oh, of course,

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don't Make Waves, the Sharon Tate
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Beach. And that's another one of
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just it's a great soundtrack. Not
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today. And also didn't know this, but there was this is way before

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your time, but in the early
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they on television about jaywalking for kids
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was a jingle and Vic Mizzy wrote
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it wasn't. It went, don't
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the middle, in the middle,
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the block. Uh, keep your
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turns green. So it's look and
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I remember they gave us in grade
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look weight things we were supposed to
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um, but yeah, that was
a that's a catchy tune, don't cross

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the street in the middle, in
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middle of the middle of the ball
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in the Simmons mansion in the middle, in the middle of the middle of

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the middle, in the middle of
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they opened up that scene with Don
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a loser and it's just like xylophone
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of in this. I think,
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with this organ stuff and yeah,
yeah, but but yeah, the ed

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sol I think it was a It
was a choice, wasn't it. Yeah,

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a definite choice. Yeah, because
that was considered a bomb, one

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of the greatest bombs in the history
of automotive history. Um So, people

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that don't know, First of all, if you haven't seen The Ghost and

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Mister Chicken starring Don Knots, you
can pause this and go rent it because

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you can rent it anywhere right now
for like four bucks. I did.

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It was on Amazon, but it's
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movies at um and the plot of
it is, though I'm giving you a

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second to pause and go watch it
is don Knots plays a guy named Luther

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who's kind of a loser, and
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that where he lives, but he
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nobody takes him seriously. Everybody talks
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abandoned mansion in town called the Simmons
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a gruesome murder where a husband supposedly
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And now it's the twentieth anniversary of
the murders. And who is that their

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son who's returned, nephew nephew.
The nephew has returned. He's wealthy,

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he owns that match and he's going
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all its secrets with it when he
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Luther volunteers to go in at midnight
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story basically for the newspaper. And
that is in hijinks hijinks and Sue right

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right it was there was only a
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I mean, that's crazy. I
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that we're still watching fifty plus years
later. Yeah, they killed it in

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three weeks, less than three weeks, and he hired Alan Rafkin as the

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director who had directed a bunch of
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Griffith's Show, which Don Knots of
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when he when he did this movie. And part of the reason he picked

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Raftin was because he was an efficient
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get this done in seventeen days.
That's who you hire to do that.

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And then Rafkin went on to direct
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which had the same writing team as
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Frame a Fig. So Rafkin did
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seventeen days as fast if you Yeah, I mean, if you look at

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the down the list of character actors
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so many of them are in those
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and there's there's so many and there's
so many interesting like connections to different

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productions. You know, the guy
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did the hair on Thin Soilant Green, And you know, it's just like

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amazing connections. It was like all
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director who were in the middle of
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And they all looked like they were
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in their forties or thirties, you
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seventy five, but they did.
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but we we actually addressed a couple
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a couple of those character actors,
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called Running Scared and I was listening
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and uh and he you know,
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straight as it was, and then
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he tried it out with some I
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don't do that. And he was
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it a shot. Saying, you
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of falling apart, nervous shaking kind
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that, and of course he went
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there was really a lot of his
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I don't think he did any of
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but he certainly took advantage of and
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real life at all. He was
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a bit of a ladies man.
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he was very against his type.
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supposed to be the straight man in
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and then by the second episode,
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to be the other way around.
I got to be the straight man and

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he's got to be the funny one. So yeah, I mean that worked,

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yeah, obviously at work because he
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yeah, um, and then I
think he won like two more coming

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back for guest appearances. It's crazy
how beloved that that. Um, that

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character was the iconic Barney Fife character
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also, going back to the title, I thought it's interesting they went with

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The Ghost and Mister Chicken, which
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Missus Muir. But that was This
was two decades later. I just can't

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believe that that movie was still such
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a call back. Well, it
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series a couple of years after this, so they must have. You know,

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it must be considered a classic.
I forget what you're the TV show

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Ghost and Missus Muir came about,
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and Mister Chicken was in uh Rita
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She was one of the stars of
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no, you're right, it's interesting. You wouldn't think that that movie

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had the launchevity to have done that, but you know, but it did.

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I loved, in addition to the
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horror sound effects tropes, the hooting
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the cats screeching U you know,
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you know, the Oregon music.
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really funny. Did we talk about
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about the called the Castle Thunder?
I think so it's it's it was the

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thundery. They invented this thunder sound
effect for Frankenstein, I guess, the

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original Frankenstein, and it ended up
showing up in like ga jillions of programs

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and commercials. I mean they even
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It's just this classic thunder that I
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trademarked or copyrighted. And uh,
and I don't know if they still

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use it today, but it's it's
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said, it's in The Munsters.
It always opened up I think The Munsters

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after the theme song with some of
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a it was called the Castle Thunder, it was built, it was made

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in nineteen thirty one, and Disney
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so it must have been free.
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like the the stand in sound for
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in movies. I think that's what
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favorite like gag in the movie or
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organ playing, certainly when HeLa fingerprints
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it's got that whole That whole haunted
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It's just like that's it looked like
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several years before the Haunted Mansion,
well a few anyway, so uh so,

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yeah, that's it. What about
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The elevator can't stop on the right
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or undershooting and he's just funny.
Just step up, step up, yeah,

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and then he falls into it,
you know, when he goes to

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leave. Um. And I also
I loved the Atta boy shout, the

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running gag of the boy at a
boy Luther. I thought that was hilarious.

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it almost reminded me of like a

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running gag that you would have seen
in like peak like Adam Sandler or Chris

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Farley, stuff from like the nineties, you know what I mean, Like

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a line that I think they read
that they used it in Kingpin. It's

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something I don't I remember the movie
that well enough, but nobody. That's

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what I'm thinking of too, and
I just don't remember. Yeah, yeah,

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but I guess it was the guy
who said that was m was one

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of the writers. Yeah, it
was Everett. It was Everett Greenbaum who

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wrote it. He was he was
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and they were writing partners also on
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people some of the people brought over
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They also wrote thirty five episodes of
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did so did you read about this
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that maybe inspired this movie. It
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afternoon. It was like almost it, you know, it was it was

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almost really it was almost the movie. Yeah, so it was Andy Griffith.

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I think that recommended that because because
what happened was supposedly Andy Griffith had

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said early on in the run of
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do five seasons. So don Knots
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left the Andy Griffith Show when he
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I gotta figure out what I'm gonna
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he said at the beginning, this
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Doesn't realize that Andy Griffith decided,
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gonna keep doing the show, and
by then Donn had already said to leave,

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and so I believe it was Andy
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Donnas is trying to figure out what
movie to do, Griffith was like,

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well, why don't you try doing
something like that episode of our show that

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we did, And yeah, well, I mean I knew that that not

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brought Andy Griffith in as an uncredited
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the other consulted with the other.
But in the Andy Griffith episode, Opie

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and his friend hit a baseball into
this old mansion or this old in decrepit

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house, and they didn't have the
nerve to go into it because they went

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up to the door and they heard
this whoo and the inside, so they

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ran away and they went back.
Opie told, you know, Andy Griffith

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that this place is haunted, and
Barnie was there and saying, oh,

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that's you. Know, that's silly. Nobody believes in ghosts. And then

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Andy Griffith kind of smirk and says, well, Barney, why didn't you

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go out there and get at your
help? And there's the the wide eyed

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don knots look, and they go
into the thing and there's there's a you

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know, it's all the cobway.
It looks it could be the same set

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in black and white and uh and
the cobwebs everywhere. And they get to

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a fireplace with a painting on it, and the painting has eyes that move

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back and forth, and there's a
there's a there's supposedly there was a I

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don't know if it was ever a
murder in there, but there's an axe

404
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.799
and the axe flies around in this
episode, you know, and then they

405
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.920
they run, they run away.
You know. It was him and Jim

406
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.519
Neighbors. They went in first,
and they went back with Andy Griffith and

407
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.599
uh. And the whole point was
they were chasing out a bootlegger that was

408
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.640
living in the basement that was trying
to they had a still going on and

409
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:52.039
uh in the basement making booze and
UH. So they were trying to scare

410
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.240
people away. So they could keep
their still going in the basement. But

411
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:59.720
one of the bootleggers is Hal Smith
owed us the drunk from Andy Griffith,

412
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.799
who is the guy who gets beaned
in the head at the beginning of Mister

413
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.440
Chicken. He's like the he's the
first person that shows up in the movie.

414
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.880
He isn't even builled and um and
he played he played otis the drunk

415
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:17.599
constantly on Andy Griffith. And he
ended up being drunk in this movie and

416
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:19.960
thrown into jail in this movie,
just like he did in Andy Griffith.

417
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.559
So it was like kind of mirrored
plots to that to that episode, but

418
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.920
for sure, but it was it. It was just it. I hope.

419
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:32.359
Summers also was another actor that was
brought over from Andy Griffith that was

420
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:37.000
in this So they had the director, the two writers, and at least

421
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:42.000
two actors, probably more from the
show, probably many more because there was

422
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.559
like they had to do like a
whole town of people. Basically, there

423
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.759
were so many actors in this movie. Yeah, yeah, they all lived

424
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:56.480
down the street, you know,
so don knots um He of course most

425
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.960
famous for playing um Uh Barney five, but he was also Ralph Furley in

426
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:07.319
the second half of the run of
Three's company, The Landlord, and he

427
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.119
was also the star. One of
my favorite films of his is The Incredible

428
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.319
Mister Limpet which was made a couple
of years before this, where he plays

429
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.799
an an animated fish. I loved
that movie when I was a little kid.

430
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.640
And then we talked about this guy
in an earlier episode. I don't

431
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.839
know if it was one of our
main shows or if it was a Patreon

432
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.079
show, but in World War Two
he served he was entertainment for the troops.

433
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:32.119
Basically, he had a comedy duo
act with another actor named al Checo

434
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:37.279
or Checho, who would appear in
multiple films of his and uncredited roles.

435
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:42.079
Incredible Mister Limpett was the first movie
that that this Alchecho appeared in. Who

436
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:47.240
was you know? His Don Knatz's
former comedy partner in World War Two?

437
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.279
And then he appeared again in this
movie, and he appeared in several other

438
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.240
of his films, always you know, usually uncredited. But Alcheco was wild

439
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.279
because his wife tragically died when she
was young. They'd only been married a

440
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.240
few years, and he I don't
think ever remarried, didn't have any descendants.

441
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.880
And he lived in the old Age, and he willed his house in

442
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.279
the LA area to Providence Saint Joseph
Medical Center in Burbank when he passed away.

443
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:17.880
He died in twenty fifteen, and
the house was donated to the hospital

444
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:18.960
kind of I think, kind of
in her honor, his wife's honor,

445
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.039
so kind of kept the candle burning
for her for decades, you know,

446
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:27.359
after she passed away tragically. So
yeah, that was That was in a

447
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.440
Patreon episode because I remember the story. It was an obituary story. Yeah,

448
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.640
Yeah, that's sad. I also
thought was interesting Don Knots's mother ran

449
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.480
a boarding house when he was a
kid, and his character lives in a

450
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.920
boarding house in Mister Chicken. I
don't know if there's a connection there,

451
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.640
if that idea came from his own
life. Boarding houses are certainly a thing

452
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:51.279
of the past, that's for sure. Um. Yeah, he kept working

453
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.559
pretty much right up until he died. He died in February twenty four,

454
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:59.440
two thousand and six, supposedly kind
of issues related to lung cancer. And

455
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.119
his grave marker is amazing. It's
like one of the best celebrity grave markers

456
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.720
ever. It's got a bunch of
likenesses of his famous characters on it.

457
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:11.119
It's really well done, including Luther. They haven't done really karate karate.

458
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:17.799
H. Yeah. There's also a
really nice statue of him in his hometown

459
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.759
of Morgantown, West Virginia, in
front of a theater. Oh yeah,

460
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:22.759
in honor of him. It's a
really good one. So there's a lot

461
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:29.279
of really bad celebrity statues, but
that's a good one. He was he

462
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.039
Yeah, he had what he was
like really quite ill, wasn't he had?

463
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.160
They say you had pneumonia, immacular
degeneration. I mean, it's really

464
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.519
it's sad when somebody, well you
said he was kind of serious too.

465
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:42.839
You're more serious than you'd expect him
to be. Yeah, you want you

466
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.240
want somebody like that to pute pulling
faces all the time, you know,

467
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.000
that's just the way he is.
He had a degenerator of muscle issue and

468
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.319
that caused his eyes to kind of
not droop a little bit. So he

469
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.359
stopped doing like appearances on screen,
but he would. He had a lot

470
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:02.119
of voice acting the last years of
his life. So the opening scene Calvern

471
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.160
Weems, who was half smith owedis
the drunk gets being done. The head

472
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.799
by by Hope Summers. Actually she's
not the one that hits him on the

473
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:22.599
head. She sees some unseen person
with a board right bang right on the

474
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:28.480
head, and she's just maniacally screaming, I love it, and so over

475
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.920
the top. And every one of
these actors you could, you could monsters

476
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:38.160
at him twelve Bewitched Green Acres,
every single one of these actors have been

477
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:45.839
on the shows. But she played
one of the creepy satanic neighbors and Rosemary's

478
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.519
baby they were raising, you know, Rosemary to have this baby, the

479
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.200
Devil's baby ultimately. But yeah,
I just watched her scene today. She's

480
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:58.680
like, there's nothing to be afraid
of Rosemary, honest and truly there's nothing.

481
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.200
But that was the whole fun of
those all those old people that in

482
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.160
Rosemary's Baby, who probably were all
in this movie too. But um,

483
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:13.079
she But also she was another iconic
bit of television history. She was the

484
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:19.160
voice of missus Butterworth Syrup on the
TV commercials Wow. So she didn't even

485
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.359
get credited in the movie. You
know, I had to do like a

486
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.720
dive to find out who who her
name, what her name was, but

487
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:29.599
she was yeah, she then it
turns out she was missus Butterworth, So

488
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.680
wow, I thought that was kind
of cool. Butterworth Syrup. There's nothing

489
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:38.720
to be afraid of, no Rosemary. And she died in Woodland Hills in

490
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.839
June twenty second, in nineteen seventy
nine. She's seventy seven years old.

491
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:45.839
But it's funny but that, you
know, because they yeah, because don

492
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.400
k Notch. The whole point was
he hears her scream murder, murder,

493
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.680
murder, and then at the same
time Don Notch just happens to be driving

494
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.799
by in his Loser or furdencil and
he wants desperately to be a reporter.

495
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.039
So yeah, so he thinks he's
like to murder, and he thinks the

496
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.680
guy's dead, and then it turns
out the guy's only injured, but he's

497
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.119
already gone back and told everybody that
he witnessed a murder, and then he

498
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.719
gets laughed at when the guy shows
up bang right on the head. I

499
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.440
mean, that's that's one of the
gags. I love. I love that

500
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.039
when she says that all the time. That makes me laugh. Uh,

501
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.159
and the Bonni Ammy one too,
but we'll talk about that, yeah a

502
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.320
little bit. Now. I was
just gonna say, how, how how

503
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.360
in the sixties alcoholism was really funny, you know, I mean the Andy

504
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.800
Griffith thing with the still and the
basement and they're just pounding you know bottles,

505
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.840
you know, directly out of the
bottle, and you know Granny on

506
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.239
the Beverly Hillbillies is always drinking moonshine. Remember north By Northwest, And this

507
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.960
is not the last time I'll mentioned
that movie. When he gets that he's

508
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:50.079
fighting the dui charge Carrie Grant is
after they got him drunk and tried to

509
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.880
kill him, and he and his
mom goes something like, just pay the

510
00:34:52.920 --> 00:35:01.400
five dollars. Wow, be done
with it. So that Hope Summers was

511
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:06.119
a bit of television history. So
now the next person that comes up as

512
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:10.440
far as appearance in the movie would
be um Ali Ali Weaver, Yeah,

513
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:19.840
who was probably the handsome sort of
foil of of Luther in the movie that

514
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:24.119
the Successful Riders or he flashy has, the beautiful girlfriend has everything Luther wants,

515
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.639
has, the job Luther wants,
as the girl Luther wants has probably

516
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:34.559
the looks that Luther wants played by
a skip Homeier who was the child actor

517
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.639
who wasn't a child star, but
started as a child actor and was able

518
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:44.599
to transition into adulthood adult acting.
He did, like all these guys,

519
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.400
he was in everything, but he
did a lot of westerns and war stuff.

520
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.599
But he was He was in The
Rifleman, Wagon Train Bonanza. It's

521
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:52.840
like the whole run. It's like, if you know how to handle like

522
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.280
a six shooter and can ride a
horse, sen you're an actor. You

523
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.239
know what I mean, You're gonna
work in the sixties. He was also

524
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.679
play had two roles in the original
Star Trek series, so he's big with

525
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.639
Treky fans Um. And he was
in the film The Gunfighter with Gregory Peck.

526
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:15.760
And of course there's a Helter Skelter
connection m because he played the Manson

527
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.639
trial judge in the nineteen seventy six
Helter Skelter TV movie that we did a

528
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:28.119
whole episode about, right, Yeah, he was yeah, Mannix Adams family.

529
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.079
He said, all everyone tick tick
tick for you, and that sure

530
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.360
I was in there. I got
my two hundred and fifty dollars appearance,

531
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.159
you know whatever. But but yeah, those people kicked it out, all

532
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:42.079
those all those episodic television and h
and yeah, Helter Skelter Judge Older.

533
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.639
He was that surprised me. In
fact, I think that, uh,

534
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.880
how long have we been doing this
podcast, because I seem to recall him.

535
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.840
They were coming up in four years, okay, because he was one

536
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:59.639
of the obituaries we mentioned in twenty
seventeen. I think I know he came

537
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.119
up with four. Oh no,
it must have been the Helter Skelter episode.

538
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.239
That's right, that must have been
it, because yeah, so it

539
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:10.239
um. But yeah, so he
was in our world an amazing actor.

540
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.599
Um. He passed away a skip
passed away on a June twenty fifth,

541
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:22.079
twenty seventeen. He was eighty six
and it was spinal my loopathy, which

542
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:28.079
is a neurological situation related to the
spinal cord. I don't know eighty six

543
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.199
to make it the eighty six and
have some shit like that. Yeah,

544
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:37.199
so rip Ali Weaver rip skip.
Formerly. So the next guy that shows

545
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.800
up in the it was Dick Sargent, and we covered him, of course

546
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.320
quite a bit in the bewitch yepisode. Yeah, Dick Sargeant and Sander Gould,

547
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:52.559
who was also in uh and of
course who played Gladys Kravitz and Bewitch.

548
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.039
There were two big Bewitched actors in
this movie, Um, I love

549
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.639
I love the Ladies of the Psychic
Occult Society of racial group with the ladies

550
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:08.239
with their little banner to show up
at the house, and the cosmic vibrations.

551
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:15.559
Oh man, the cosmic vibrations.
I love it. Rita shows she

552
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.599
was the best. Yeah, we
we call them manifestations. I love.

553
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.400
Dick Sargeant played Luther's boss and the
editor of the new staper that he works

554
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.159
for. And of course Dick Sargeant
was the second Darren Stevens on Bewitched,

555
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.000
and I liked him in this movie
because he was, well he was.

556
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.679
He was your standard sort of Darren
Stevens dickhead, you know. He had

557
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.400
that kind of dicky personality. But
when it came to the point where,

558
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.760
you know, Luther stayed one night
in the house and saw all the horrible

559
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.519
haunting things and talked to everyone about
it, and when the owner of the

560
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.000
house said, that's nonsense, I'm
going to sue you for slander. Um,

561
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.199
Dick Sargent stood by him said,
Luther, did that happen to you?

562
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.960
Yes? It did, Okay,
we stand here then, you know,

563
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.320
so I thought that was that was
a nice moment that I wasn't extracted

564
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:06.880
his back. Yeah yeah, so
um. And you know, we all

565
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.440
know Dick Sargeant. You know,
he came out as gay in nineteen ninety

566
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:15.360
one. He and Elizabeth Montgomerys co
star hosted co Graham Marshall the Gay Pride

567
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:21.960
Parade in West Hollywood and uh and
he died like three years later a prostate

568
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.960
cancer. Yeah, at July eighth, ninety four, and he was sixty

569
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:32.000
four years old, rest in Pea
sticks Sergeant again. Yeah yeah, now

570
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.599
Hal Smith again, we talked about
that briefly. The who played otis the

571
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.559
drunk on Andy Griffith. He had
a huge career as a voice man.

572
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.039
He did like he was on the
flint Stones. He was, He did

573
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:50.559
Winnie the Pooh, He did a
quick drama Grown Huckleberry had now classic Hannah

574
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:59.760
barbaric cartoons and post nineteen sixty seven
Goofy for the Disney movies on the original

575
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.400
if he died, so he was
quite a successful. Now I found this.

576
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.559
I never heard about this before.
But otis Hal Smith who I called

577
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:13.079
Moodist, but his name was it
was his name Charlie Calver Weems. I

578
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.480
love that. But he was in
a movie called Once Upon a Girl And

579
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:21.360
I've got to read this. It
was in nineteen seventy six American live action,

580
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:27.960
adult animated fantasy comedy pornographic film written
and produced by and directed by John

581
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.679
Don Juric Jurwick was animated by a
group of animators who had worked for Disney

582
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.119
and Hannah Barbera. Now. It
was about a lewd old lady claiming to

583
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:40.239
be Mother Goose. Who was Hal
Smith? Who is? You know?

584
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:45.639
Calver Weems has been put on trial
for obscenity obscenity due to yelling the telling

585
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.800
the true versions of famous fairy tales. Who evidence is presented as a collection

586
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:55.519
of pornographic animated shorts Jack and the
Beanstalk, Cinderella and Little Red Riding Hood.

587
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.119
So I'd love to see that.
Actually, it's probably they probably broadcast

588
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.639
on TV nowadays, you know,
and it was considered pornography back then.

589
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:09.760
But um, but yeah, so
so he was. Hal Smith died in

590
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:15.400
his home in Santa Monica listening to
his favorite radio show on January twenty,

591
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:21.119
eighteen ninety four. He was seventy
seven. What was his favorite radio show?

592
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.360
In nineteen ninety four? It wasn't
anything that I found interesting enough to

593
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:29.679
remember I mentioned. Was it like
an old show that he had tapes of

594
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.079
or what was the I want no, no, no, it was a

595
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.480
proper radio radio for it. Yeah, you're gonna make me look for it

596
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.760
now, Dallas says, is he
was listening to his nightly drama hour on

597
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:47.039
radio. What that's what it was? Radio dramas in the nineties. Well,

598
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.239
I don't know. I mean,
I know that I know that the

599
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.559
Brits do that. That's still a
big deal there. But but he did

600
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.639
die like two weeks before the North
North Through earthquake. Okay, who appears

601
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.440
next in the movie? Lu Huther
goes to the police department report that he'd

602
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.079
seen a murder and you know,
he thought he had by this, you

603
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.239
know, getting hit on the head
with a or reporting a murder that he

604
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.840
saw the body and ended up being
this drunk guy and so everyone was making

605
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.239
fun of him. And as he
was heading back then he had it back

606
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:22.199
to his home, the boarding house
where he was living cruelly, cruelly living

607
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.840
with the guy who plays Ali,
the nasty one who was it's not very

608
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.079
nice to him, but it was
funny. They were mocking him. They

609
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.480
were making fun of him about seeing
mister murder, mister his face, and

610
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.599
he says, why don't you run
up an alien holler fish? That was

611
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.119
his insult to those guys. It's
like it had to be an inside joke

612
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:50.199
of some sort, But why did
you run up an alien holler fish?

613
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:55.000
But he he lived in the Natalie
Miller boarding house, and Natalie Miller was

614
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:59.039
Loreene Tuttle, who I love that. It's like if I had, if

615
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.119
I had a kid daughter, I
would name her Loreene just to keep that

616
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:07.159
name alive. Look that name.
I love that name so much. And

617
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.280
and she was. She'd been in
a million things again, a ton of

618
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:15.320
TV shows. But she was in
Don't Bother to Knock and Niagara with Maryland.

619
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:20.039
She was with Carrie Grant in Mister
Blanning Bill's Dream House. She was

620
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:25.440
a sheriff's wife in Psycho Walking Tall. She played a nurse on the groundbreaking

621
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:32.639
Julia Show with Diane Carroll, the
first African American woman to have out a

622
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.920
show based around her. And she
was also an acting teacher and she taught

623
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.480
Red Skelton, Orson Wells, Milton
Burl, Steve Allen, and Jane Meadows,

624
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.960
and her daughter Barbara was married to
John Williams, the composer. Wow,

625
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.320
so it's like, you know,
so she it's a lot of you

626
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.360
know, a lot of taking a
lot of boxes. But yeah, her

627
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.920
daughter, her daughter died quite young, but they were I think she died

628
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.800
in like seventy five or something like
that. But she was married to John

629
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.800
Williams Star Wars. We talked about
him. Prayers of the Lost Arc and

630
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:10.440
Superman and the Jaws, I mean
tons of Lost in Space theme song which

631
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.599
a few of these actors end up
showing up on Belly of the Dolls.

632
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:20.079
So anyway, but Loreene Tuttle died
in Encino on May twenty eighth, nineteen

633
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.519
eighty six. She was seventy eight
years old. And then staying with that

634
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.199
theme, there were a couple of
those older women actresses that were there.

635
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.559
One was called Jesselyn Facts. She
played one of the two competitive ladies.

636
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.840
You know, they were saying her
eyes were blue. I heard they were

637
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.440
black. Well they were blue and
black, and you know, I pay

638
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.199
one hundred dollars, I pay one
hundred and fifty dollars, you know,

639
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.480
like that sort of thing. But
she was on she was a course on

640
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.079
Andy Griffith's show, and she was
in Rear Window, and she was in

641
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.320
Kiss Me Deadly. Who was she
in Rear Window? I don't remember.

642
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.440
It was like a dozen actors in
that whole film. Rear Window was what

643
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:01.639
year fifty four? Thank you?
It's my favorite movie going? Is it?

644
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.960
Really? Were Windows your favorite?
Yeah? Yep? Uh, Rear

645
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.880
Window, Mishearing Aid. Okay,
she's the sculptor. Okay, that's how

646
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.360
I thought. That's the only person
I could think of that she could probably

647
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.679
be. So yeah, she's um
Mishearing Aid is the sculptor who makes kind

648
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:23.320
of weird sculptures down in the first
four of the place. And she's the

649
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:29.000
one that gets yelled at um at
one point by the killer when she tries

650
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.519
to tell him how to um how
to pretend his garden and he tells her

651
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.840
to shut up. Yeah. I
haven't seen that movie in so long.

652
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:42.519
Oh so good. But it's funny. One things about her that's that's funny

653
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.480
or ish? Is it? Back
in two thousand and six, there was

654
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.920
this rumor going on online she wasn't
north by Northwest she shows up in that

655
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:55.920
movie. People were saying that she
that her character was actually Alfred Hitchcock in

656
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.960
drag In north By Northwest And here's
this big like inner a debate about that

657
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.159
really. So yeah, as a
second cameo in the film, that all

658
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.039
for Hitcock was sort of because she
had those kind of she had that kind

659
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.480
of features, that kind of shape
towards you know when that when that came

660
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.239
out so um so yeah, but
she ended up she died in Hollywood in

661
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.840
nineteen seventy five. She was eighty
two years old, so that made her

662
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:22.519
you know, like seventy when they
made the movie or something to that,

663
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.159
something like that. Yeah, and
like like a lot of them were,

664
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.880
but it was neat that they got
We talked about this um and our Patreon

665
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:36.079
episode about how like Angela Lansbury would
always hire these people. There's a few

666
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.400
of these people showed up in Murder, she wrote too. These older actors

667
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:44.199
Lansbury would put in and Murder she
wrote specifically because they were older and not

668
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.239
getting work anymore. She wanted them
to get there whatever they're their acting credits,

669
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.840
that I could keep their pension or
whatever it was, their union.

670
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:57.360
Yeah, coverage is going Yeah,
I love that. So yeah, so

671
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.039
she showed I mean she died in
seventy five, was eighty two years old.

672
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:05.960
Now. Her partner in the movie
The Dark Hair the White Haired Lady,

673
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.679
her name was Nindia Westman, and
she she's still one who had the

674
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.239
famous line. It was said,
you know four times to the movie,

675
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.760
I think, or five times.
They even used bon ammy when referring to

676
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.719
the organ, the haunted organ with
the blood stained finger tips on it,

677
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.159
and they on the ivory and she
they tried tried everything to clean up that

678
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:28.199
blood and her line was and they
even use Bonammy, which it's still I

679
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.000
think they shall sell Bonammy as a
cleanser. It's like a jax, it's

680
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:36.280
like comment cleanser. And Bonammy was
a big thing. And supposedly don Knots

681
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.079
even went to Bonammy like the company
and asked permission to reference it in the

682
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.519
film since it got so many references
and interesting granted it was granted the okay

683
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.199
to use it. Yeah, I
guess it's portraying it in a positive light

684
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.000
because she's saying they even used it. That means it's like the best.

685
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:58.480
Yeah, So Nindia Westman of course
again Munster's Adams Family Bewitched Adam twelve reluctant

686
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.320
to acts astronaut, and then she
was that weird movie with Anne Margaret called

687
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:07.039
The Swinger, where she was she
played this like columnist and she was writing

688
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.119
these really racy stories about herself and
nobody believed it was really her, like

689
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:14.880
a young, young, sexy woman
and she's talking about all her nightclubs and

690
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.320
hanging out with all the rich playboys
and stuff, and it was just kind

691
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.920
of a it's kind of a racy
movie for for the time, and she

692
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.960
was I think that might have been
her last last performance was in that movie.

693
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:31.440
And uh and Nydia Wish Nia Ndia
Westman, you know again Vaudeville,

694
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.280
that whole bit. Yeah, she's
got a huge I mean, she's got

695
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.960
huge credits. But again it's all
the stuff that that that Perry Mason Addison

696
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:45.119
leepyish anyway, So Nydia Westman died
in May twenty third and nineteen seventy in

697
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.960
Burbank. Uh cancer. So,
but it was the other little competitive lady

698
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.960
I loved. I love those too. They were they were a good uh,

699
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.840
they good good banter with each other. Like, yeah, being an

700
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:02.199
agent back then must have been nuts
with all these character actors. Just just

701
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:07.400
just volume. It's all about numbers. Just it's a numbers game. Just

702
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.079
get as many of them into as
mini shows every week as possible, every

703
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.039
you know what I mean, just
constantly bouncing around between sitcoms. Uh,

704
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.519
it's really wild to see all these
these actors, how many they all were

705
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.559
in the same shows We come across
as you know, time and time again

706
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.119
we did when the Bewitched episode we
did, same thing. Uh. Yeah,

707
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.599
being an agent back then for these
types of actors must have just been

708
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.880
nuts, just a grind, you
know, and they all looked like they

709
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.519
were a hundred back then. Yeah, that's what I mean. There's lots

710
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.639
of drinking and smoking, smoking in
old clothes too. I mean it has

711
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:44.639
a lot to do with the wardrobe. And but I mean, like,

712
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.519
what's his face? You know,
we talked about him on the on the

713
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:51.639
Beverly Hillbillige podcast, Sam Drucker or
Green Acres. You know, he was

714
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.239
the old guy that ran the general
store on those shows, and they were

715
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.639
crossovers Petty Go Junction and Green Acres
and Beverly Hillbillies. But he got he

716
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.239
looked like he was seventy back in
the sixties and he was only think so,

717
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.920
yeah, that's funny, but so
so, yeah, you're right,

718
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.199
that would have been interesting. It
had been interesting to be around a waiting

719
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:13.920
room in one of those agencies and
seeing all those I know you're the guy,

720
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.280
I know you, I know you
every day just rolling in. Yeah.

721
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:22.480
So that brings us to Joanes Staley, who I was my favorite person

722
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.440
to read up on honestly, on
that. Yeah, this whole thing.

723
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.679
She's very interesting. She's the romantic
lead in this that Luther is competing to

724
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.920
win over um and she she was
an accomplished musician. As a kid,

725
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.280
she played I think the violin,
and she was in the Junior Symphony at

726
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:42.440
the Hollywood Bowl as a kid,
which I thought was really interesting. And

727
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:47.400
then as an adult she was play
Playboys Miss November nineteen fifty eight. It

728
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.920
was a very tasteful photo shoot.
I had to look it up for historical

729
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.000
reasons, you know, make sure
I I know fything. And they were

730
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:57.840
very nice. It was done by
a life photographer who approached her and asked

731
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.440
if she would be interested, and
she said yeah, so it's very fully

732
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.519
done. She had recurring roles on
The tab Hunter Show. Speaking of tab

733
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.440
Hunter and The Adventures of Ozzie and
Harriet and seventy seven Sunset Strip I think

734
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.719
the final season. She played a
secretary on it, and then she had

735
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.960
big parts or bit parts in Cape
Fear with Mitcham and she got the slap

736
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.800
Elvis and roused about his sixteenth movie, and she claimed later that it was

737
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:28.000
a real slap because Elvis didn't want
her to fake it. You don't want

738
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.639
her to pull up. He wanted
to really smack him. And so when

739
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.400
you hear that slap in that movie, that's not a sound effect. That's

740
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.239
really her smack in Elvis in the
face. And I also thought it was

741
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.119
interesting this is the same movie Elvis
got injured for real in the face because

742
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.400
he didn't insist on doing his own
stunts. And there was a supposedly during

743
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.000
a fight with a group of stuntmen, one of them kind of flips and

744
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.239
the guy's heel caught him in the
face and gave him a dash. And

745
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.840
I don't know, I don't know
if that's the story of the scar that

746
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:59.440
he had over his eye, or
if it's one of the stories, or

747
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.239
if it's one of the scar as
he got, because there's another version of

748
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.480
events where he got a scar of
his eye from chicken pox, or another

749
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.559
one where he fell as a kid
and hit a table and got a scar.

750
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.440
So I don't know if this is
supposed to be that scar, if

751
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.519
it's a different injury, but yeah, that's according to a relative of his.

752
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:15.159
He was supposedly on set that day
and sad of course, everybody was

753
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.840
freaking out. Elvis's got blood streaming
on his face. Yeah. But and

754
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.239
then there was another Elvis connection.
Jones Staley did some backup singing for Sun

755
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:30.519
Records in Memphis. She her first
husband that she married was a film director

756
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:35.639
in Tennessee in Memphis, and so
she did some backup singing for Sun Records,

757
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:39.280
of course, which was Elvis's label. Wow was your thing at an

758
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:43.079
Elvis record? Do you know?
I don't. They didn't mention that she

759
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.519
had, so I think they probably
would have mentioned if she had done that.

760
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:46.719
But she did back up at Sun
Records, So I don't know what

761
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.440
songs. That's really not that big
of a place, you know, No,

762
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.639
it was really It's interesting too.
She was blond in real life,

763
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:59.920
but they made her wear a brunette
wig in the Ghost and Mister Chicken supposedly

764
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.880
because she was too sexy as a
blonde. I mean, she wasn't interesting

765
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.280
that they even hired a playboy model
it to be in this movie, because

766
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.039
I mean, there are some movie
there are pictures. I mean I did

767
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:14.280
a quick google and I saw a
couple with her. You know, there

768
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:15.920
was straight there were the boys were
straight out there. I mean that was

769
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.840
they were there. I mean it
wasn't like you said there were there was

770
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.719
a there were there were hidden a
little bit. It was kind of a

771
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.599
peekaboo thing, but they were certainly
there in fifty eight and um, so

772
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.400
it's interesting to me that they hired
her like that. You would think that

773
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.800
would blacklist people for from movies.
She had a good career. Her career

774
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.880
was only curtailed she injured her horse
or she entered a horse. She injured

775
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:44.119
her back riding a horse in a
film the same year. It was a

776
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:50.400
different movie that really did get her
blacklist. That's enough. No, she

777
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.440
she entered her back riding a horse, and I think shooting a western,

778
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.320
uh, and that kind of curtailed
her career as the same that happened the

779
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.559
same year that she shot that.
She did this movie. Um, and

780
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.519
she said interesting an interview a couple
of years before this, in sixty four,

781
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.400
she said, I've made a career
of playing an undulating blonde in tight

782
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.719
dresses. It isn't that I wanted
that brassy sexpot image, but that's the

783
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:16.039
image producers feel you project when you're
well blonde and shapely. Also, when

784
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:20.920
you've been in Playboy, I think
probably had an impact that probably, Yeah,

785
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.000
it's it's funny. And also during
that time period, wigs were chic.

786
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:27.360
You know people people were whigs all
the time, and not as a

787
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.000
yeah, they just there was chic. There were some people that you know,

788
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.559
Troy and I comment that on a
lot, like we're watching Rockcord Files

789
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.119
and you know, these women who
we know have beautiful hair end up with

790
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.639
these monstrosities on their heads. It's
like, because Alma's wig was not good

791
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.079
in this movie and always look clocking
to me, it's terrible that So,

792
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.199
yeah, it was it was pointedly
that that I guess they did that.

793
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.280
They didn't They didn't spend a whole
lot of money on the on the on

794
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.639
the stylist for this one, but
they did have a hairstylist because I looked

795
00:54:55.679 --> 00:55:00.719
him up too he's the guy that
I did so soiling green think or something.

796
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.920
But but yeah, so they But
anyway, but I liked her in

797
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.679
this movie, very likable, although
tot you know, a bit annoying too,

798
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.679
I thought, because like she goes, let's have lunch, Luther,

799
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.239
and then she makes him you know, oh, I took this scene.

800
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:15.599
He's the only one. He's going
to be done in a minute, and

801
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:20.800
there's a guy sitting there and he's
got to stand and she's like just talking

802
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.320
like it's okay. And it's like, well, that was kind of shitty.

803
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.519
And then her like boyfriend shows up
and steals the seat and she doesn't

804
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.559
do anything about it. Yeah,
that was kind of yeah, oh that's

805
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.440
me. And then be a minute, you don't mind, do you?

806
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:35.079
Luther. It's like that was kind
of kind of shitty. I didn't like

807
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.400
that. But oh the other one. I love the other scene. Sorry,

808
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.079
the other joke. I like when
um at the beginning, when she

809
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:45.519
goes, love your print, Elma, No, yeah's your address? Yeah,

810
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:50.760
and then he says that they're love
your print back in an era when

811
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.679
you know, women made a lot
of their addresses themselves. Yeah, you

812
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:55.440
know, they're talking. Oh,
I got the print. I got it

813
00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:00.639
at wherever whatever store she got the
fabrics. That what I was, you

814
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:04.800
know, And then she talked about
how my niece has one that has a

815
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:12.320
you know, a big yellow stripe
across the yeah boobs. Yeah, that

816
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.440
becomes a gag that gets repealed later. Um, love your print though,

817
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:20.480
that's something they still use all the
time. Sorry. So Jones Staley really

818
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:25.000
talented, multi talented musician, actress, a comedian UM. And she after

819
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:30.119
she kind of quit acting or faded
away from it, her and her second

820
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.639
husband, who I think was an
MCA executive, UM, they started a

821
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.920
talent management company and they wrapped Bob
Barker and Meltorma among others. And I

822
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.400
think her daughter now runs the company
and took over the family business, which

823
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.519
so they have a talent management business. UM. Jones Staley died on November

824
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:52.000
twenty four, twenty nineteen. She
was seventy nine, and they said it

825
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.400
was heart failure. So just I
wish I would have got the opportunity to

826
00:56:55.400 --> 00:57:00.320
talk to these people. I really
do en that'd have been me, that

827
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:04.679
would have been around. Yeah.
I met Don Knots at one of those

828
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.039
autograph shows one time, too.
And it's like it was at that time

829
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.519
where I had no appreciation for him
what he was doing that Three's company business.

830
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:15.440
It was like I found that character
really really not what he wasn't supposed

831
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.360
to be likable, that was the
whole point. But uh, now I

832
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.840
didn't. He's really kind of smarm
me. I just didn't. I didn't

833
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.599
like it at all. The bad
Tupei, the really bad Tupai and um.

834
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:28.320
But anyways, I said in retrospect, I wish i'd I'd been more

835
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:32.519
attentive. Um. Next up,
Phil phil Ober who played Nicholas Simmons.

836
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.960
I love this guy, the nephew
of the mister and Missus Simmons, who

837
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:44.159
the murder suicide in the original House
of Which Villains Just the twentieth anniversary of

838
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.280
the murders in this movie. Yeah, yes, and the villain you're right,

839
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.519
Yeah, he's the villain. Yeah. He wants to tear the house

840
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:53.079
down to cover up its secrets,
cover ups. It's tragic past. I

841
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.760
thought this was a great speaking of
you know, Hitchcock. He was un

842
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.159
ambassador Lester Townshend in north By Northwest, the guy that gets killed with a

843
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:07.360
knife in the back at the inside
the UN Building and falls into Carry Grant's

844
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.519
arms, and someone, of course
just happens to take a picture of him

845
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:15.559
looking like he's the killer when he
wasn't, obviously, And I thought,

846
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:20.320
that's a great story in Hollywood.
How they shot the exteriors of that film.

847
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:24.159
They actually shot an establishing shot showing
Carrie Grant running up the front steps

848
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:28.199
of the UN building to go inside, and of course everything else was a

849
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.360
set, and they did not have
permission to film at the UN building,

850
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:37.840
So Hitchcock and the camera operator hid
in a van across the street and filmed

851
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.159
from inside a van and had Carrie
Grant, you know, go up and

852
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:45.320
down those front steps, and you
can see real security guys out there look

853
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:47.320
kind of looking around like they kind
of knew something was up, and I

854
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:53.079
mean, obviously they must have noticed
Carrie Grant right by them. But that

855
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:57.679
was a stolen shot. That was
a little Hitchcock guerrilla filmmaking there. They

856
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.360
did not have permission to film at
the UN building, so that when Stace

857
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:06.840
went and stole it, And ironically, Philip Ober then when he retired from

858
00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:10.800
acting, he went into the US
Diplomatic Service and worked as the US consul

859
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:15.239
in port Porto Vararta, Mexico,
which would be a nice way to retire.

860
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:20.239
I think, yeah, that wouldn't
be so bad. I didn't realize

861
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.519
he was married to Vivian Vans.
That would surprise me. I love that

862
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:28.280
story too. He left he was
married to someone else's first wife. When

863
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.880
that happened, when he got together
with her and I came across a.

864
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.440
He went on to be Vivian Vance's
third husband, and she was his second

865
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.599
wife. Of course, you know
Ethel Mertz from I Love Lucy. So

866
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.400
when he left his first wife for
her, it was a divorce scandal there

867
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:46.760
in New York because his wife,
I think, was kind of a socialite.

868
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:52.800
His first wife, and the United
Press reported Missus Philip Ober, who

869
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.880
her real name was Phillis Roper,
his wife at the time, charged in

870
00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:00.320
New York Supreme Court today that her
husband, a star in the b Way

871
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:05.800
hit mister and Missus North found so
much after theater right relaxation in the apartment

872
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.599
of Vivian Vance, blonde musical comedy
singer, that he forgot to come home

873
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:16.079
several nights. It's good, it
happens to everybody, and Vimian advanced,

874
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:21.360
Vivi advanced and responded that the article
saying it was ridiculous and that she was

875
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:25.960
actually charging ober Rent and then it
was platonic, so funny whatever. Well,

876
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.760
apparently according to it, there's a
guy I know. His name is

877
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:36.639
Bose Hadley, and Bose Hadley wrote
several books on Hollywood, a lot of

878
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:43.199
like kind of trashy stories, tabloidy
will say, tabloidy stories. You know.

879
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.960
He wrote a book about old the
old Hollywood lesbians and all the whole

880
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:51.559
Hollywood gays and and but he actually
said in one interview that he got was

881
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:55.880
that Vivian Vance said that he was
very abusive towards her, said and said

882
01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:00.639
she showed up to h I Love
Lucy with a black eye, and Lucy

883
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.440
said, if you don't divorce him, I'm going for him or something,

884
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.239
not not as in going for him
romantically, but if you don't divorce him,

885
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.840
I will something to that, right
right, And they were married for

886
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.360
like eighteen years too. Yeah,
yeah, that sucks. That's really interesting

887
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.920
because you know they um, they
did eventually get divorced in fifty nine,

888
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:22.320
which was a couple of years after
I Love Lucy left the air, So

889
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:29.519
maybe she finally took Lucille Ball's advice. So Philip ober passed away on September

890
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.519
thirteenth, nineteen eighty two from lung
cancer. He was eighty. So then

891
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:38.280
then, so we mentioned that Luther
was a type setter and he saw he

892
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.239
saw him the murder victim in front
of that Simmons house. Turns out that

893
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.960
he was a drunk guy and he
was getting all this crap from his colleagues.

894
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:50.519
So then he's working as this type
setter and they come down and they

895
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.159
say, you know, Luthor,
we need a three inch filler for the

896
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.760
paper. And he goes to the
little file draw and you know, in

897
01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:00.199
the little three by five papers that
have a little human interest thing, you

898
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.960
know, they'll say that some little
girl, you know, found a kite

899
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:07.440
that she lost ten years earlier or
something like that. So then this the

900
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.480
maintenance guy kind of leans over and
says, you know, Luther, maybe

901
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:14.639
you should think about doing something about
that murder house is coming up on the

902
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.880
twentieth anniversary, and will don't you
write your own filler? And you know,

903
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.840
Luthor's desperate to become a reporter.
And that man who did it,

904
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:29.800
the character's name was was Kelsey and
he was actually Liam Redmond, who was

905
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:34.440
a real Irishman, not one of
those phony in movies, a TV Irishman

906
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.360
that come with these crazy accidents he
don't recognize. But he was a genuine

907
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:43.559
Irishman, like died in Dublin Irishman. Yeah yeah, born in Limerick,

908
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:52.440
Um, Yeah, Liam Redman.
He passed away on October twenty eight,

909
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.880
nineteen eighty ninety, was seventy six, after what was reported as a long

910
01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:00.800
period of ill health. He was
in the movie called to the Demon in

911
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.320
fifty seven, and it's got a
little bit of a bit of trivia because

912
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.679
to me because in the Rocky Horror
Picture Show at the beginning of it as

913
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:12.800
a science song called science Fiction Double
Feature that Richard O'Brien wrote and sang in

914
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.719
the movie and mentioning, you know, Michael Rennie was ill the day the

915
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:21.599
Earth stood still and you know,
and told Flash Gordon was there in silver

916
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:24.880
underwhere Claude Rains was the invisible man. Well there's there was there's a line

917
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.360
in it says Dana Andrew said,
prunes give him the Runes? Are you

918
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:34.440
n e s And it's from Night
of the Night of the Demon, which

919
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.119
is based on his story casting the
runes. It's sometime known as passing the

920
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:43.840
runes, hence the pun prunes,
and it's like, yeah, so's it's

921
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.519
just a pun on runs. And
that became the lyric to this song,

922
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:51.159
which I always knew the lyric,
but I didn't know where it came from.

923
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.800
It it turns out that says Liam
Redman's big, biggest sort of role,

924
01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:58.039
which was a really scary movie.
Actually I watched about a half an

925
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:00.960
hour of it. And although it
was fifty seven and you know, stop

926
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.880
action or miniatures, the demons,
and it was it was it was quite

927
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:09.400
dumb. It was good, it
was well done. And so he plays

928
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:14.519
the old Irish guy who's the maintenance
guy at the newspaper, and then he

929
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.800
tells luth of the story about what
happened at the house and how he was

930
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:21.159
working at the house the night of
the murder suicide and mentioned that, you

931
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:25.920
know, the whole thing and how
it happened with missus Simmons being stabbed in

932
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:30.559
the throat and mister Simmons playing the
tow playing the organ in the tower and

933
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.920
jumping out of the window and killing
himself and that again, this is the

934
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:40.239
twentieth anniversary that's coming up. So
Kelsey prompts him to write this article.

935
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:44.119
And the article's a hit. Everyone
in the town is talking about it,

936
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.360
even though it's a little three inch
thing in the paper. But I love

937
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.280
the fact that he when he wrote
it, it was the horribleness and the

938
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:55.320
awfulness of it will never be forgotten. It was the three inch filler on

939
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:59.800
the front page of the paper.
I love that. But so yeah,

940
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.280
it was. It mentions the twenty
year anniversary. So Dick Sarton suggests,

941
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.760
hey, why don't we you know, come what he did say, Well,

942
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:11.719
it's the twentieth anniversary of the murder
suicide. We ought to capitalize on

943
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:17.039
that. Imagine that capitalizing on somebody
else's horrible thing would never even can do

944
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:23.280
such a thing terrible. So so
anyway, they suggest knots because they knew

945
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:26.480
he's ridiculous and he'd make it.
You know, he's got a crazy imagination

946
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.800
and he's really a coward, and
they more or less dare him to do

947
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.960
it, or they humiliate him into
doing it. And because he didn't want

948
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.239
to do it, but they said, come on, you're you're not gonna

949
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.280
do it. I'm betting you're not
gonna do it. So it's like I'm

950
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:41.960
gonna do it, and uh,
and that was really good. That was

951
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.079
really that whole him going up to
the house on that night and the night

952
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:50.599
before the anniversary, just to check
the lay of the land and uh and

953
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:55.760
uh. And he falls into the
house through the coal shoot and is walking

954
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.719
through this crazy honted house and everything
happens. Everything happens. It's opposed to

955
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:04.679
know, the creeping feet and h
and I forget whether it's some of the

956
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:09.039
other. Then he threw the book. The grash player starts playing on its

957
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:14.079
own, like twenties like Charleston swing
music. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

958
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.880
And then the creaking stairs in the
whole bit, and then he throws a

959
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:20.880
book at the bookshelf, and the
bookshelf opens up and there's the twisting staircase

960
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.840
that goes up to the organ loft, and he goes up there, and

961
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:28.840
then the organs start the clock chimes
midnight in the distance, and the organ

962
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.400
starts playing all by itself. But
that was terrifying when it was growing terrifying.

963
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:35.719
And then he runs down and he
sees the portrait of Missus Simmons with

964
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.519
garden shears in her throat and it's
actually bleeding. And then he runs out,

965
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.239
and of course he's hysterical about all
these things that happened. He writes

966
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:48.239
the article about it, and the
whole town is amazed that he survived this

967
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:53.320
crazy night in the haunted house.
They printed without even like checking any of

968
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:56.239
the facts or anything. No fact
checking. That well that doesn't matter either

969
01:06:56.320 --> 01:07:00.360
today. But but they print it
and he becomes the head of the town

970
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:04.320
and they have a picnic in his
honor and and uh and uh celebrate it.

971
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:08.400
And then oh, you know that
was another fun thing. The guy

972
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:12.320
that was directing the band, you
know that that that that when they introduced

973
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.840
him. That's his name is His
name was Dick Wilson. He's the guy

974
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.880
that played the drunk I'm bewitched all
the time. And you know, he

975
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:24.519
was always like and Simanath would disappear
and he was just drunk and I like,

976
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.199
this stuff is too strong. And
then and he played mister mister Whipple

977
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:33.119
and the Charman over five hundred Charman
commercials. Yeah, and he was just

978
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:36.000
and he was just the bandleader.
He didn't even getting credit in the movie,

979
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:40.719
you don't really he never gets a
close up. But but I heard

980
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.039
him talk and I was like,
oh, yeah, that's that's certainly him.

981
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.400
Certain that all that sharp. He
didn't need the credit. He had

982
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.760
all that Sharman money, God commercials, should you match money and to be

983
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:54.079
the spokesperson and that many commercials.
Yeah, yeah, that's that was like

984
01:07:54.159 --> 01:08:00.400
Doris Doris Roberts. Doris Roberts was
the was the person who did the She's

985
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.159
from Everyone Loves Raymond, and she
did Glade in her Freshener commercials. And

986
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:09.840
she bought a house and you know
that house from Double Indemnity up up in

987
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:13.800
the Hollywood Hills, that crazy house
that Barbara Stanwick lived in in Double Indemnity.

988
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:16.600
Doris Roberts house shows up in that
movie, just as the one next

989
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:21.800
door. And she called it Cassette
de Glade because Glader Freshner paid for it.

990
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:27.920
That's right. Um, you know
you mentioned the painting with the shears

991
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:31.680
in it. That is the one
thing that has never explained away in the

992
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:35.319
film is that, um, you
know, because everything else they have because

993
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.960
when he goes back, you know, with the court, with the judge

994
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.159
and the townspeople, and nothing is
the way he described it in the house,

995
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.439
and they're all like, oh,
you made it all up. The

996
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.359
painting is back to normal. There's
no holes in it and blood on it

997
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.199
or anything. And that is one
thing that has never explained away, like

998
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:54.760
how that was made to look like
that. And there apparently there was a

999
01:08:54.800 --> 01:09:00.399
deleted scene that did explain had an
explanation for how it was done. You

1000
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:02.760
know, the guy that pulled this
off. Well, I thought it was

1001
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.800
pretty clear that he had done it. And then, you know, because

1002
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:10.439
I just thought that that was what
happened, I didn't really question it.

1003
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:12.560
Well, no, like, how
did the painting when he went back not

1004
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.199
have holes in it anymore? Yeah? Actually, well they like he didn't

1005
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:18.399
ruin it like like he did the
first night. He had a second one.

1006
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.520
Yeah, I can't remember what there
was. There was an explanation.

1007
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:25.880
It was something like that that they
had switched out or something like that.

1008
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.199
But that was one the one thing
that was deleted from the finished film that

1009
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:31.920
didn't explain how he pulled that off. There was another weird thing that I

1010
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:34.760
looked up and I just couldn't go
there because it was getting to be,

1011
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:39.279
you know, written a rabbit hole. But there's a weird scene where he's

1012
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:43.920
walking and that dog walks by.
Did you see that scene There's a dog

1013
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:46.279
right behind him. It's like an
airdale or something. It's like it's like

1014
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:48.199
it had to be. They knew
it was in the shot. It was

1015
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:53.399
like almost right next to him and
kept walking. And apparently it had something

1016
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:56.560
to do with a deleted scene as
well, because they gets the dog shows

1017
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.279
up again in another part of the
movie. But it was really obvious because

1018
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:01.600
you remember when the black cat jumps
out at him, and that was like

1019
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.840
one of those it was just that
obvious. But this dog just walking right

1020
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.800
behind him. It was very,
very weird, and apparently that has something

1021
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:12.960
to do with a deleted scene too. But so he spends the night in

1022
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.520
the house, writes the article,
a very successful article. Everyone's loving it

1023
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:24.039
well. Nicholas Simmons, the nephew
of the murder suicide people, because he

1024
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:28.720
wants to tear the house down because
he wants to develop it and also rid

1025
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.680
of any memories in that house.
And this is where it gets a little

1026
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.039
bit like it's It gets a little
complicated because the man who ran the bank

1027
01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:39.720
was supposed to sign off because it
was a lean on the house. So

1028
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.399
the man who ran the bank,
Nicholas Simmons says, you got to sign

1029
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:44.680
off on this. He was going
to, but it turns out that his

1030
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:47.199
wife, Rita Shaw says, I
owned fifty one percent, and I'm into

1031
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:51.079
the occult society, and yes,
I own fifty one percent of the bank.

1032
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:56.640
And this is the first time we've
had hunting in our in our myths.

1033
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.279
And they have this little occult society
where all the old lady you know,

1034
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:02.760
just seances and things like that.
So she says, absolutely, no

1035
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.640
way, are you going to tear
this house down. Well, you know,

1036
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:09.920
it's interesting, it's interesting. Uh, this was a thing in the

1037
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:13.079
know, probably more like the late
eighteen hundreds into their you know, early

1038
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:16.079
half in the nineteen hundreds, this
occult, especially with women that were like

1039
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:19.279
women's groups that was just like this, what this group was like. It

1040
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:24.760
was very common back then they would
um do seances and try to contact the

1041
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.760
dead. Uh and um, it
was it was like a big thing back

1042
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:30.520
then. It was kind of like
what our paranormal TV shows are today.

1043
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:34.720
Back then it was usually I think
it was largely it was usually women's groups.

1044
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:39.640
This is something that they were super
into, um back then, say

1045
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.000
for whatever reason. So I thought
it was really interesting when that popped up,

1046
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:46.279
this you know, a psychic occult
group with their banner. Ye up.

1047
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:51.680
I was like era, like a
board housewife thing maybe you know,

1048
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:56.560
uh, for people to have the
means to be able to do that that

1049
01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:59.680
were it was also, you know, entertaining was more popular back then.

1050
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.760
It was way to entertain basically was
something to do. I want to play

1051
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:05.039
board games, you don't want to
like summon the dead. I guess that's

1052
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:11.359
where Weiga boards came in when they
they became board you know, parlor family

1053
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.880
games. They still sell them in
game stores. You know Wicha boards.

1054
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.000
People there opening portals up left and
right. Man. Yeah, mate made

1055
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:24.880
by Milton Bradley, which fascinating and
if you use it you can contact him.

1056
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:30.439
Yeah, no kidding. So so
Rita Shaw who she played now.

1057
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:33.399
She played Martha, the housekeeper in
the in the show The Ghost of Missus

1058
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:36.880
mew Er when that became a sitcom
on Interesting okay, And she was also

1059
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:42.800
one of the two housekeepers in Mary
Poppins, her and Hermione Baddeley that were

1060
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:47.399
the singing Housekeepers. She was also
in The Loved One, that famous spoof

1061
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:53.640
on Forest Lawn, Escape from Witch
Mountain and uh, and she is in

1062
01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:00.199
um the Columbarium of Remembrance of Forest
Lawn, right across from Hank Kimball from

1063
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.039
Green Acres. They're almost next door
to each other. So she died on

1064
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:09.560
January eighth, nineteen eighty two,
of emphysema, and she's buried it for

1065
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.800
a slawn. So but she's another
one in all of those shows, all

1066
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.439
of those shows, and she m
and also that that thing she kept saying

1067
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:21.880
that the chant it was Taro caro
selima. Then all those ladies are flipping

1068
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:26.199
out. God, I love it. It's so funny. But uh,

1069
01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:29.560
and they do that thing where he's
walking by and they touch him and they

1070
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:34.199
all pass out from the cosmic vibration. Cosmic vibrations. Man, yeah,

1071
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:39.039
you got to feel it. So
um And then okay, So then the

1072
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:42.399
other thing we have is then the
ghost a trial. You know, they

1073
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:45.520
make him spend the night in the
house a second time. That brings us

1074
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:50.079
to Charles Lane, who played the
attorney in representing Nicholas Simmons, who was

1075
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:57.560
suing the newspaper because a slander because
there's no ghost in that house. Yeah,

1076
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.439
yeah, and take it back or
I'm suing you and Charles Lane,

1077
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:03.560
we talked about him. He was
in It's a Wonderful Life. He was

1078
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:08.640
in Um Mister Smith Goes to Washington. He was in Arsenic and Old Lace.

1079
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:11.840
He was best friends with Lucille Ball. He was in a Million a

1080
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.319
Million. He was in a few
Lucy's Shot, he was in the Munsters,

1081
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.119
Andy Griffith, of course, Twilight
Zone, Beverly Hillbillies, h He'd

1082
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.039
been in a ton of things.
And he lived on Gretna Green and he

1083
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:25.920
died. He was one hundred and
two years old. He died in two

1084
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:30.600
thousand and seven. But he lived
about like two doors down from Nicole Simpson.

1085
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.119
And when you know, before she
was murdered, remember she and oj

1086
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:41.039
had domestics, and there was a
time when when when she called nine one

1087
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:44.199
one, when he was beating down
her door at a different address, not

1088
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:46.760
the one where she was murdered.
And Charles Lane like lived next door or

1089
01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:51.279
two doors down from Nicole Simpson when
that happened, because he was he would

1090
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.479
talk about it like I was there, you know, they happened here,

1091
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:59.560
and so it's kind of just kind
of an interesting little aside. But but

1092
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.920
he was um, he Adam twelve
as well. He's been another one of

1093
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:05.760
another, one of those actors that
was in everything but two thousand and seven

1094
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:11.920
July ninth, he died in Santa
Monica and uh Bewitched though you remember which

1095
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:15.920
certainly he played that. He was
in the Nightmare the Night Before Christmas spoof,

1096
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.439
were you know, the grumpy client
of Darren's who didn't believe in Christmas.

1097
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:24.359
You gotta work on Christmas? Go
on? Is all your names?

1098
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:30.199
No? No, no, let's
say so nod you're adding something to that

1099
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.399
now. I'm going to try to
do this fast because some of them are

1100
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:36.079
just going to tick them off the
list. But I don't know any of

1101
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:41.520
these names. Okay, so Charles
Charles Lane. I loved in the movie

1102
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:44.560
is how the old ladies were old
ladies not very anazing to say, and

1103
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:46.840
all the older women who were in
the Psychic Society were hissing at them when

1104
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:53.319
they walked into the literally. I
love that. It was cool. And

1105
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:57.840
then they brought into to testify at
the trial of lose their shanity. They

1106
01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.159
brought in Ellen Corby, who played
the grandmother on The Waltons, who was

1107
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.600
also It's a Wonderful Life. She'd
been in Andy Griff. I think she

1108
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:09.279
played a bank robber and Andy Griffin
like a mom Barker kind of a character.

1109
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:12.920
She was in Vertigo, she was
in Sabrina, she was the glass

1110
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.680
Bottom Bow. She was in I
remember Mama, and of course Adam's family

1111
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:21.279
Beverly Hillbillies. I love Lucy and
and she's the one who kind of,

1112
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:28.399
you know, we're testifying towards Luther's
sanity because everyone thinks he exaggerated this whole

1113
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.560
ghost story when he printed when they
printed it in the paper, and she's

1114
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.760
like, oh, no, you
know, he's a good boy. He

1115
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:36.439
had the best imagination and started talking
about how he told everyone he was the

1116
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:42.079
son of the Prince of Wales and
then he could pick up the military right

1117
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:46.479
and his cavities, military like broadcasts
on his cavity. So that kind of

1118
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:50.399
that kind of destroyed his credibility.
And she was so sweet because she came

1119
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:54.319
out said, I you know,
I hope I did well for you Luther

1120
01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.560
afterwards, and she actually just threw
a wrench and his all his life,

1121
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:02.000
completely crushed his life. Yeah,
but most people remember her as the grandmother

1122
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:10.119
on the Waltons and who was a
lifetime a lifelong bachelorette as they said,

1123
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:15.199
you know what I mean, and
I think you do. And Ellen died

1124
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.760
on April fourteenth, nineteen ninety nine. She was eighty seven years old in

1125
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:24.800
Woodland Hills, California, at the
Motion Picture Country on So that was really

1126
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:28.279
those are the biggies that were in
the that they were in the in the

1127
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:30.760
movie, I mean the rest of
them, you know, the rest of

1128
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.960
the movie. We probably shouldn't tell
the whole rest of the movie because people

1129
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.399
should see it. We're want to
spoil the whole thing. We told quite

1130
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:41.119
a bit. But the ending there's
a twist and uh, you know,

1131
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.039
the supernatural thing is called into question
and it's one of the Scooby Doo endings,

1132
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:48.319
but in a good way, in
a good way. Yeah, I

1133
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:51.520
quite liked it. Like I thought, the whole thing was done really well.

1134
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:55.520
I did look up one of the
one of the art directors. His

1135
01:17:55.640 --> 01:18:00.920
name was Alexander Golitzen, who won
two Academy Awards. He did one at

1136
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:03.079
forty three for Phantom of the Opera
with Nelson Eddie, but he won the

1137
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:09.039
Academy Award for To Kill a Mockingberg
as a as a kidding. Yeah,

1138
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:12.840
well, yeah, the art direction
was amazing too. Credit was in black

1139
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.720
and white too to be to be
Yeah, and one of the greatest opening

1140
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:19.840
credit sequences ever, really beautiful and
put I'm sure his art direction was a

1141
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:25.159
part of that great kind of macro
photography of like marbles and kids things,

1142
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:30.079
really beautiful opening credit sequence. Yeah, he got the Oscar for that,

1143
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.880
and he also was nominated for an
Oscar for his last movie, which was

1144
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:39.800
Earthquake. Oh really, his last
movie was Earthquake, which is a good

1145
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.399
one. They say it was a
good one to go out on because that

1146
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.199
was a huge success that movie was. And uh and uh yeah, so

1147
01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:50.319
Alexander he the co art director with
a band named George Webb, who had

1148
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:55.119
you know, didn't have as many
interesting credits to his name, but no

1149
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:59.239
less, very very important to this
movie. Yeah. And then lastly,

1150
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:05.359
the most the interesting creature person I
found was was I say creature and it's

1151
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:11.560
actually appropriate. Rose Rosemary Odell,
who was the costumer on this movie,

1152
01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.880
was also the costumer and creature from
the Black Lagoon and to Kill and to

1153
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:21.720
Kill a Mockingbird. Wow, that's
interesting. So they grabbed so they had

1154
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:29.479
their art director and costumer were both
to kill a mockingbird. Yeah, that's

1155
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:33.239
very interesting, m I there were
a lot of incestuous you know, sort

1156
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:36.680
of with our cannibal eyes or however
you want to put it. You know,

1157
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:42.000
people, because there's so many degrees
of similarities. You were in this,

1158
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:44.119
and you worked on that, and
you got this, and yeah,

1159
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.039
all these people were interacting. I
can also tell you, though I don't

1160
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.319
know how it was then, it
is probably something similar. But now you

1161
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:51.199
know, if you have like a
production manager who's kind of their job to

1162
01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:55.960
help find a lot of those extra
crew positions like that, Um, you

1163
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.000
know, they have their people that
they like, and so there might have

1164
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:02.600
been a producer production manager on this
film who just he may if you look

1165
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:06.279
at their background, you might find
out, Oh there's the link. That's

1166
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:11.000
the person who's bringing these people and
reusing them together over and over again because

1167
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.079
they like working with them. Yeah, they're used to working with each other.

1168
01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:15.840
And costumes and work in set design
usually have to go together. As

1169
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:19.199
you're talking about color palettes and stuff
like that. There's there's usually a connection

1170
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:24.279
between those two things. So,
um, that makes sense. God,

1171
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:30.640
you're so smart, Mike. That's
some nerdy Hollywood stuff that kind of stuff.

1172
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:33.920
It's really I mean I've known people, like I've known people that didn't

1173
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:36.239
get hired onto it. You know, a thing that I worked on,

1174
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:40.199
for example, because the production manager
had their own people that they wanted to

1175
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:45.800
hire. Basically, so yeah,
I get it. Yeah, it's incestuous.

1176
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:47.960
You know, I have a good
relationship with that person. I want

1177
01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:51.359
to work with them. Again,
It's not necessarily nepotism because they people have

1178
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:54.399
to pay their own weight, they
have to come up with you know,

1179
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.119
people have proven themselves to you that
you know, do good work, so

1180
01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:59.560
of course you want to keep hiring
them. It's that that's normal. That's

1181
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:01.399
not yet. It's like that's like
it's like the opposite of nepotism, like

1182
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:04.760
they are in that spot by doing
good work in the past. Basically.

1183
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:10.319
Yeah, right. Um. Our
our friend Kelly called this movie NTS Scary

1184
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:15.600
Farm, and I thought that that's
quite good. That's very like that's a

1185
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:23.880
scary farm. So they good one. Um so is that it? Did

1186
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:27.520
we do it? I think we're
done here. Yeah. I didn't want

1187
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:29.880
to go into the ending because I
want people to actually see it and not

1188
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.720
know how it ends. But really
I just love this movie so much.

1189
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:36.520
And like I say, it's just
encapsulates, you know, fun movies,

1190
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:41.560
scary movies. Back when movies you
know, didn't have to terrify you yet

1191
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:45.920
they were. They're spooky enough.
Kinder the term I've heard before is called

1192
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:49.840
kinder trauma, where you when you're
when you're a child and you see an

1193
01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:54.640
image that, uh that you'll never
forget. Like in the same bad movie,

1194
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:56.720
there's a cyclops and when I was
a kid, I saw that was

1195
01:21:56.760 --> 01:22:00.000
like, I'll never forget that.
It's like ingrained in my head. So

1196
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:04.399
yeah, there's there's several kinder trauma
moments. The garden shears in the throat

1197
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:10.119
with the blood on the painting,
that's very terrifying. For nineteen sixty six,

1198
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:14.279
it's pretty pretty terrifying. So um
so, and that was the point.

1199
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.520
But uh but it wasn't gross.
It was you know it was,

1200
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:24.840
but it was gross. A bleeding
painting with scarten shears in the throat.

1201
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:29.560
Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay,
but I think I think I've covered everything

1202
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.920
I want to. Well, well, we did your favorite Halloween movie.

1203
01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:38.960
I think we should do my favorite
Christmas movie for holidays wife, Yes,

1204
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:44.960
yes, yes, yes, yeah, with you know Carrie Grant and Lauretta

1205
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.880
Young and David Niven. Of course, just a classic. And I used

1206
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:53.640
to work um on the lot where
they filmed it. So they filmed that

1207
01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:57.640
on which now called the lot which
is next to Formosa Cafes. That a

1208
01:22:57.640 --> 01:22:59.760
lot there used to be I think
used to be called I think he used

1209
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:01.199
to be to Warners back in the
day, but now it's just called the

1210
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:05.840
lots they're on Santa Monica. Yeah
it was, Yeah, it was.

1211
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:10.520
That's where United Artists started and I
think open for a long time too.

1212
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:15.039
But yeah, oh definitely. Oprah
is still the own building, the building

1213
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:16.800
of the office building, her own
the own network. Oprah is still there

1214
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.640
and she still shows up there about
once a month for relatings and to do

1215
01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:26.119
you know it, you know,
psa vo voiceovers and stuff like that.

1216
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:31.800
Yeah, checks pick up her check. Yeah. Have you ever off topic

1217
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:35.279
a bit in front of that studio? You ever seen a diorama up there

1218
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:40.000
in front of that studio, Oh, the kind of the one that's on

1219
01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:43.560
Santa Monica Boulevard. Yes, yeah, I have. I've stopped and looked

1220
01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:46.680
at it before. It's really odd. It's like metal look in the little

1221
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:50.279
door and you could see like all
the movie equipment. And yeah, it's

1222
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:55.880
so bizarre that I've I didn't even
know it was there until like three years

1223
01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.880
ago. Yeah, and uh,
surpar as, no one's you know,

1224
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:02.079
broke in it yet, but you
know, we're straight painted it. They

1225
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:06.840
had to close it up as a
Really that is a really bizarre little thing.

1226
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:12.000
Also, if you ever see if
you ever see the film Trumbo about

1227
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:15.560
Dalton Trumbo, the screenwriter that got
blacklisted, one of my favorite films in

1228
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:18.359
the past decade. Just really well
done period piece from that era. King

1229
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:23.079
Pictures. The King Pictures office that
they go in and out of is the

1230
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.720
lot. It's one of those axterior
facing doors. Did they go in and

1231
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.279
out of there? I think they
look like they probably filmed on Formosa for

1232
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:33.119
that. So cool. Yeah,
No, I look forward to seeing that

1233
01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:36.399
movie. I've never seen it,
so I look forward. Oh my gosh,

1234
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.000
ah, it's great. You know
what it looks not Is it the

1235
01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:43.840
best Christmas holiday movie ever made?
Probably not, but it's kind of like

1236
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:45.640
this movie is for you as a
sentimental value. You know, it's a

1237
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:48.960
movie I watched. That's probably the
holiday movie I watched the most growing up

1238
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:59.279
the best. That's the difference.
No, I get it because I saw

1239
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.920
the remake. I knew I saw
the one with Houston, but I didn't.

1240
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:04.760
I've never seen the original one,
so we should give it the I

1241
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:09.520
should give the Nenzel one a chance. I boycotted only because how a dare

1242
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:15.039
you? How dare you remake my
favorite Christmas movie? But it's yeah,

1243
01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:20.119
that's not doesn't really genuinely except morally, does it bother you? Uh?

1244
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:24.479
You know, because you figured,
well, the original still stands. You

1245
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.279
know. I used to get a
little defensive when people like when they did

1246
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:29.840
the Rocky Horror remake. You know, it's like people like, how this

1247
01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:33.000
is not outrage and it sucked,
but the music is still good and I

1248
01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:38.079
enjoyed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I didn't bother me. Didn't

1249
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:41.800
affect the original one. And people
are not talking about the Fox version of

1250
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:44.760
Rocky Horror. You know, it's
still not right, you know, so

1251
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:48.079
right, that's true, But I
understand you get feel sentimental and protective.

1252
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:53.840
I get that. I mean,
so I didn't see Disturbia when it came

1253
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:58.159
out, which was that with um
shy La buff It was one of his

1254
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.359
earlier films because it was. I
saw the trail, I'm like, oh,

1255
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:02.680
it's a rip off of r window, Like again, how dare you?

1256
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:05.600
Uh? And then I finally did
watch it. I actually that was

1257
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:09.279
a pretty good movie. I actually
enjoyed it, so I should give them

1258
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.199
a fair shake, and I to
it, that's a whole different thing.

1259
01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:16.920
If you're ripping it off, that
sucks. You know, that's that sucks.

1260
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:19.880
That's that should be. That's like, that's wrong, that's really wrong

1261
01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:24.600
when you Yeah, this was more
like definitely inspired by but it wasn't like

1262
01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:27.239
a rip off rip off. It
was the disturbut it was not like a

1263
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:30.960
straight rip off of It was that
they went in saying, what if a

1264
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:34.319
John Hughes had made a thriller,
but if you had a John Hughes teen

1265
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:36.760
movie, but it was a thriller, that was like the vibe they went

1266
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:41.239
for. So yeah, it was
it was interesting. Huh. Yeah,

1267
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:44.600
all right. And Shyla buff has
had his problems, I know, but

1268
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:48.359
this is before he had all those
problems. Yeah, yeah, he's he's

1269
01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:51.600
just just a cute kid that was
in a Transformer movie, you know,

1270
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:57.560
and then he just turned into a
disaster. Anyway. Yeah, by the

1271
01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:00.680
way, I love your Dealer Departed
Jack o'lanard. I just noticed it.

1272
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:03.680
I was trying to figure out what
that was. Somebody somebody gave it to

1273
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:12.359
me and then the other side,
Oh amazing they that made Yeah, it's

1274
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:17.800
awesome. I what a good gift
it was. It was nice, all

1275
01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:23.720
right? Well at a boy Scott, I had a boy Mike. I

1276
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:29.319
waited all episode to say that I
love your print. Hey, and you

1277
01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:30.960
can get an ad a boy Luther
T shirt. Did you know that with

1278
01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:36.840
don Knots's face on it? Google
it it exists. Sounds fun. Yeah,

1279
01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:41.760
through actually really nice design. I
recommend it cool. I'll check it

1280
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:45.560
out. Thank you. All right, guys, thanks to everybody for listening.

1281
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:49.000
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1282
01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:54.399
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1283
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.880
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1284
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.920
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1285
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.439
so yeah, thank you. I
can't wait to do the next episode.

1286
01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:10.199
Remember, maybe we can find the
carpenters. Oh that's right, Yes,

1287
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:15.199
we keep talking about it. Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got all

1288
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:17.640
my fan club letters ready and I
have to spour through them. So yes,

1289
01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:20.239
we've been talking about doing the Carpenters
for like six months. Let's finally

1290
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:25.800
do it. Yeah, I'm in, I'm in, all right, Thank

1291
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:28.600
you guys for watching. Thank you
all right, and go watch The Ghost

1292
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:35.239
of Mister Chicken for Halloween. Had
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1293
01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:42.159
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