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Breaking down all the exes at Oh, it's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salaz.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Okay, welcome

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back to Wye on the Ball here
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's Jiginsaus. Now we have our
guy Kevin with breaking news. This

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is Eye on the Ball, Breaking
News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All

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right, so we're gonna go ahead
and start with some administrative stuff from the

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university. Uh, it came out
today that President Robert Robbins is going to

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take a cut of ten percent of
his paypackage of more than one million dollars

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and there are some other possible future
incentives that he's forfeiting right right as well.

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And you know what again, it's
it's symbolic more than any well,

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not symbolic to him. It's you
know, he's not there may be a

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night he doesn't buy drink somewhere,
but you know, but it's kind of

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like, okay, what's you know, what's the president going to do?

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Well? Look, who else is
going to take a pay cut? You

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know, I don't know. Let's
go take that call. H right on

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the Aaron on the ball. Hi, I like to talk about Arizona in

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the tournament coming up? Absolutely,
go ahead. What's your name, Terry,

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Hey, Terry, go ahead,
Hey. Just going back to the

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teams that we struggled the most with, Obviously, Washington State and Stanford kind

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of have the same resemblance of that
size. That seems that we end up

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starting to check a lot more three
pointers than normal. We haven't been able

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to seem to adjust to that at
all. You're right, you know,

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yeah, you're absolutely exactly. That's
you know, that's the matchup thing that

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we keep talking about. It's like, it's not that those guys are all

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that good, but it just works
against Arizona. You know, they've got

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a kind of an athletic guy inside
where Umar Ballow is. You know,

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he's kind of you know, he's
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Yeah, and I watched that Stanford
game last night too, and I couldn't

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believe how bad they were. So
so do you, giving your evaluation of

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the team, which we both think
is accurate, what do you think is

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going to happen in a week or
two. Well, I I'm scared of

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Houston because they're so aggressive, even
though they're smaller in the guards, but

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they're they're just so aggressive defensively.
Connecticut I think is the best team.

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And Purdue we couldn't. We didn't
get beat by Edney, we got beat

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by the guard. Right. Well, let me say this. You're picking

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teams if they would have to play
in the final four. I'm talking about

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the first weekend. I think a
Creighton would probably give us trouble because they

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have a big guy that can kind
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if you shut down Love, then
the rest of the struggle to become the

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mand Yeah. That's a good point. So how so you marked? Okay,

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here's the question we asked. He
said, what was the first word?

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Not not trust? It was I'm
a little skeptical or what was the

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word you use? I can't remember, but it's the same kind of word.

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You too are skeptical. What how
far do they need to get for

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you to feel? Okay? That
was pretty good. No, I wanted

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to. I want him to go
to the final four. But you know

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they're gonna one way or the other. They're going to match up with Tennessee.

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They're gonna be in the same.
You're going to be four or five

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huge game, huge game. Tennessee's
got a tough game against South Carolina this

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week. Okay, all right,
Terry, Hey, thanks a bunch for

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the call. We appreciate it.
Keep listening. Thank you A good call.

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Anyway, So I getting back to
to to to Robin's that's a symbolic

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it's a symbolic move. You know, people said, what are you gonna

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do? Well, here's what I'm
doing. Okay. So somebody I heard

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today that that he not he now
is saying there aren't going to be massive

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layouts at the u A as a
part of all this. That Robin said

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that, oh we did. I
haven't seen. I haven't had a chance

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to look for that. But somebody
I know at you who works at the

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o A, what do you mean
what's massive though? He said, he's

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he said, there's just not gonna
be the types of layoffs that they're the

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that they're talking about, that they're
you know, they're that they're gonna probably

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do it you know through uh,
you know, not not filling jobs and

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things like that, but that people
aren't going to be getting laid off.

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That's that's all I can tell you. That's what I heard, and I

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think I have a pretty reliable source
on that. Okay, good, that's

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good. Good news. All right, So we do have some Arizona football

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news. Obviously, we had four
players participate in the NFL Combine in Indianapolis

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over the past weekend. Jordan Morgan, Jacob Cowing, Michael Wiley, and

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tight end Tamma McLaughlin. Jordan Morgan, who I I would like to remind

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people is six foot five and three
and ten pounds. Did you watch them?

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Oh? Yeah, it was.
It was. It was unbelievably good

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watching the big boys run that fast. Yeah, and that's who I saw

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will run and for and for people
who did not watch the combine as it's

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that's totally fair not to Jordan Morgan
ran his forty and five point zero five

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seconds and a one point seven to
ten yards split. Yeah he was.

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He looked great. Yeah, he
looked great. And on a day where

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there are a lot of fast guys, six eight dudes running the same same

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run. The thing about it too
is you, guys, both they're not

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running forty yards. I mean they
do these testings and they're goodyed five five

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yards. They're pushing five yards five
yards. But it's good to see that

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they do this. I mean it
was on the same day that for example,

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I believe it was it was Jajob
Cowing that had the fifth quickest forty.

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He looked good too, Yeah for
receivers. But I was on a

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day where xavi' Worthy from Texas ran
the fastest combine NFL history ever, our

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fastest forty time in combine history,
when he ran a four point two to

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two four point two two. So
watch it. No, they were,

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they did. The official time was
four point two one. Really, so

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the four point two two was unofficial
based on you know, just yeah.

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Yeah. But then after the fact
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one, which was the fastest ever. The four point two two tied uh

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justin Ross. Yeah yeah, Washington. Yeah, but they they they said

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officially as a four to one.
And so it's how how long did Ross

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play in the league. And the
reason I'm asking this, Okay, you

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run fast, It's like you gotta
be able to get Ronaldo iah Man Billy

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the Dallas Cowboy bub catch. He
wasn't very long though, it wasn't very

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long. Just out run him.
I'll to you, We'll get the guy

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from l U. Former Arizona golfer
Jordan Gumberg picked up a win on the

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DP World Tour when he claimed the
SDC Championship Crown of the past weekend in

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the playoff. I just thought that
was relevant. That's pretty relevant because yeah,

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I mean he's I don't know that
I've ever heard his name, and

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so, you know, he had
to be pretty good because he's he's a

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pro now, so getting wins on
tours, yeah, so, you know,

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good for him. I mean,
that's it. It's great to sear

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z on the guys go out there. You don't do that. And sadly,

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the award winning NFL reporter, one
of the first guys to go from

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newspaper to TV, Chris Mortenson,
passed away this past weekend at the age

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of seventy two. I felt like
that was right. Yeah, he had

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a type of cancer. I think
I don't know if it was uh it

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was like a throat cancer or or
I don't know, but he had he

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had a yeah, and had he
got a long time ago. So he's

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actually was around a quiet yeah quite
a bit. I remember when he first

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got in the first announced that they
said he was big trouble back then,

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and he's stuck around for seven years
because he was diagnosed in twenty sixteen and

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it was star fourth throat cancer.
Yeah, okay, that's like, look

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look at that. I pulled throat
cancer out. I had it. Sometimes

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you got that magic and sometimes you
don't. Lebron James has broken uh Kareem

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Abdul Jabbar's long standing all time NBA
scoring record. He is now uh over

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the forty thousand point. Yeah,
he broked out a well back. But

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now now he's extended until he's over
forty. He's just gonna keep He's twenty

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years, hold on, twenty one
years here, twenty one years in the

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league, two thousand and three.
That's his draft lasts. So it's believable.

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I found let me go, let
me go back to I started thinking,

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was I talking out of my you
know what? On the on the

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layoffs thing? And an email that
went out today from President Robbins Uh said

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there there will be no university wide
across the board layoffs. We're working with

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division and college leaders to reave you
budget plans, to develop specific strategies for

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each individual unit to right size span. We expect to know more about any

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reductions or adjustments, including potential layoffs. In late aprilis fiscal year twenty twenty

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five, budgets become finalized. Budget
decisions will be communicated by unit leaders,

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so they're not saying, okay,
cut your thing by ten percent or whatever.

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Yeah. Well, he also has
a meeting with the governor. I

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think this week. I think tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, okay. I

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had to get back to that because
I started the thing and did I hear

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it wrong. That's a that's a
worthy thing to want to get correct.

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Yes, exactly. We had another
record breaking night over the last weekend.

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Is Caitlyn Clark ponytail pete, Yeah, ponytail pistol what everyone to call her?

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His past Maravich is that crappy?
That was? It was on a

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technical free throw, like you know
what, they should have let somebody else

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shoot the free throws right and then
let her and then have her hit it

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on a basket. I mean,
what the script. I usually I would

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I would totally agree with you today, but usually I would. Today I'm

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not because she hit the she broke
the women's record with a three from almost

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half court. Yeah, so I
think she got her. She got the

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moment for that. It was the
same thing. Remember when when Shawn Elly

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had broke the pack to scoring record, broke it at the free throw line,

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like, well, you give a
chance to the last regular season home

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game number two Ohio State. Yeah, actually a little bit of that.

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Yeah, Well it's hard. She's
got she couldn't got appel your eyes from

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it, right, She's got that
got that can't. She's got the women's

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basketball people watch because of her last
year in the Final four. I mean,

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she's got Travis Scott pulling up to
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that. Probably saw that anytime Travis
Scott said a sporting event. I saw

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his event. I feel like it's
a big spectacle that Iowa Jacob State Farm

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was there. I was becoming more
hit. Yeah, is becoming pretty from

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that. Jason Kelsey has retired.
One of the greatest centers of all time

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has retired and announced officially today in
a very teary forty five minute speech.

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Forty five minutes, forty five minutes, and it's it's leaveless tank. Dude.

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Man, just tell me you're quitting
and you can go yeah. Yeah.

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But he actually compares football to like
your favorite song because they asked him

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like why he loves it? And
he had this beautiful quote about like why

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do you love your favorite song like
it just happens like it it's and he

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quoted what Tylor Swift will never never, never come back, never getting back

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together and the collar never ever getting
back together of joking of course. And

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then the Broncos are going to cut
Russell Wilson when the new league year starts

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on March thirteenth. He gonna is
he gonna end up somewhere, somebody's gonna

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take Someone's gonna somebody to think I'm
taking on eighty five million dollars in dead

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captain. I found this from from
Albert Breer who posted this on on Twitter.

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So this is what this was the
cost of Russell Wilson's two years on

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the Broncos. The draft picks they
traded for ninth, fortieth, one hundred

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and forty fifth picks in twenty twenty
two and the fifth and thirty seven picks

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in twenty twenty three, three players
Drew Locke, Noah Fense, Shelby Harris,

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and one hundred and twenty four million
dollars. The money, the money

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in the draft picks is the big
Yeah, three players. He went eleven

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and nineteen with a ninety point eight
passer rating and just look you look bad

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doing it, right, yeah,
right, this year he had his moments,

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he had he was more stable this
year. I felt like, at

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least statistically, at least statistically,
So of course, now there's all the

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speculation before he'll go Atlanta Steelers at
Land, Uh, the Patriots one more

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of those four that I saw that
people are are are naming as potential landing

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places for uh, for him.
But Russell will, I mean guy,

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talk about it, talk about him, error in judgment off, that's just

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skill not so yeah, but not
so much him as whoever it then said,

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let's go get this guy. Yeah, you know, the the judgment

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on that one, the GM or
the player of personnel guy or the owner

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whoever said that. Yeah, the
Chiefs in the same division they're going into

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non exclusively franchised tag star corner lugerious
snead, meaning that he is a Chief

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unless he wants to go out and
negotiate a trade with another team, who

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will then talk to the Chiefs.
So it's kind of like diet free agency

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almost. You can go negotiate,
but only up unto a certain point.

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Hey, I gotta call my dad
and see if you can let me,

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you know, come over and hang
out today. But yeah, so l

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Jerry Sneed right now is going to
remain in Kansas City, which is huge

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for that team. Yeah yeah,
I mean yeah, he's important. He

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was the entire anchor of that back
then for the defense. And then this

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was a little bit of a funny
one. The Jags are going to uh.

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The social media team for the Jags
announced that today is the birthday of

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number ninety four, full Fatukasi.
Happy birthday to Fule He was cut hours

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later, the man who turned twenty
nine today was cut. And that's gonna

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save the Jaguars three and a half
million dollars against the cap, but they

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will also absorb nine point twenty six
nine million dollars in just dead money.

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So happy birthday to fight Ucasi.
Yeah, happy birthday. Here's the door.

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Yeah, and good luck shopping for
a new apartment. Wow, that's

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awful, man, Come on,
you could wait a day, you know,

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apparently way to meet a team in
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But I feel like if the front
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you just wait six hours, exactly
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in the morning. May you catch
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what you know that's gonna get out? Right? Come on man? Yeah,

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Arizona, right, yeah, Arizona
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five. And then the only last
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MVP Josh Donaldson has retired after thirteen
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the one who, like you have
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hitter with the Rangers, or he's
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Hamilton. Ah, you're right,
that's something Josh. Josh here, Josh

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there, Josh is everywhere. Yeah, that's all I had. The next

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guest, all right, Shelby,
Yeah, Shelby masks coming up, uh

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bracketwag dot com. But that he
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We'll get some of his take on
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Hey, welcome back to I on
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I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jaginsauce Snow
in the phone. We have shall

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be messed from racketwag dot com.
Shelby. How you doing, I'm no

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good her, We'll do We'll find
great. How are you on the show?

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We saw that you have a bracket
and you're pretty diligent with it.

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How confident are you with it right
now? Before? What? Ten days

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before they start doing it? Maybe
fourteen thirteen days before they start doing it.

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Yeah, I still fairly confident.
You never know until flash is Sunday,

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but I'm about it. I feel
pretty bad about because I can see

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them. So we keep saying that
there's sort of three teams were kind of

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locked in as number one seeds and
they you know, want two, three

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interchangeable Yukon, Houston, Purdue,
and that it's the four seed that's kind

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of up for grabs. But what
is a team like either Arizona or Tennessee

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or North I mean, aside from
not losing, but I mean, what

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what's in your mind is the most
important thing they can help? Equal?

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Are they? Yeah? And that
they that they have to do to grab

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that number four seed? And good
question from Steve. How equal or how

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close to even are they? They're
about as closed you get. All all

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three of them are have good resumes
or good teams. I've seen them all

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play a lot, but sat Bread
at Tennessee this weekend was another road big

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win that beat Elevant, and Arizona
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So that's why I've moved Arizona down
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seeds still play out West, uh, but that's too good to overlook.

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So we had the mic to course. On earlier he had a nice column

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about Arizona and some of the concerns
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So he pointed out that they they're
very good in the bread in the quad

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one victories, but surprisingly they're not
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What's worse? What's can you can
your wins override your losses or vice

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versa? Yes, I think they
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amount of each have one or two
quads one wins and four or five bad

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losses, then that's not so good. But if you have a squad three

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or four lost even and then had
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I think I perceive what the city
has done is they kind of washed

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each other out. Yeah, And
when teams are having these good ends of

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seasons versus when you start hot and
you kind of limp into the tournament,

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like we're seeing Kansas kind of in
a free fall in the rankings, versus

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a team like Baylor really starting to
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People talk about peaking at the right
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totality of a season in your in
your bracket versus like just a team that

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is peaking at the right end of
the season. Yeah, the city out

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and said about ten or twelve years
ago that the last team matter not as

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much as they used to. They
he put all the games does the season,

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and a hat just picked them out
and a random order, and that's

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your resume. Doesn't matter where win
that took place. So the teams,

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if they're good enough, they've got
to schedule some good on conference themes and

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they gotta win those games, just
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So how much do you put into
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everything pretty well settled except for obviously, you know, somebody who comes up

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and wins a tournament that's unexpected.
But let's say Arizona goes to the packed

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off turna, they win the league, go to the packed off tournament,

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maybe don't win the champ, don't
win the tournament. Does that affect them

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much at all? Do you think
at this point? I don't think so.

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I think the committee finishes their picking
who's going to be in the tournament

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where you're pretty much all of where
they're going to be seated by Saturday morning,

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So games Saturday afternoon, Saturday night
and Sunday. They don't even seem

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to affect them at all. Yeah, we'll see. I was in the

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mock draft for the NCAA about two
three weeks ago and they said, no,

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that's not the case. And or
they have contingency plans for each possibility.

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Uh on the Sunday games. You
know, the Michigan States show up

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or or whomever for those championship games. Yeah, that's right. They the

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if the if the result will matter
in a team getting in the tournament,

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and they have a kid for that. We could have one A ten this

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year. We've got Dayton is a
good team, but Richmond is the team

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leading the conference. So if somebody
besides one of those two is there,

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and then they're gonna have a bracket
made up with that new team and one

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if that team loses and on the
side, then or it goes so Shelby,

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who's the next to Florida Atlantic and
or Princeton. If I put some

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money on a small school right now, I'm like in Grand Canyon and make

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me state. Both of those teams
have been taught knot. They've got Power

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five coaches that have you know,
moved on and are helped in these law

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schools. They've got NBA quality talent, they're just not on TV enough for

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us to get to see. So
that those are the two I really keep

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my old McNee can really shoot the
level interesting. So what's I don't know,

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Maybe do different practologists have different things
that are most important to them?

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Right? What's at the top of
your list? Uh, you know of

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on a on a team that matters
to you the most when you're deciding where

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you're going to put them? And
is that different from every you know others.

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I've done mock committee this past week
and me and five of the guys

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and we all kind of different strengths
that we go to or that we're looking

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towards as being our top notch.
I think the amount of big wins.

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And had a schedule because the committee
harps on that every year you've got to

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accomplished and to go and play teams
that are squat four for every game,

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they're not gonna be as highly seeded
as they might like to be. So

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we talked about the produce. The
Yukons and the Tennessee's North Carolinas and Arizona's

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vying for that number of the The
number one does could any at any point,

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could Arizona fall out of a two, maybe even fall to a three?

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Is that out of the question?
I think it probably have the question

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not enough games left. Unless they
were to lose the last two regular season

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games and then the first run of
the pack Glove Tournament, that's gonna be

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They're too good to lose like that. Yeah, no, I agree,

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I hear you. Just you're just
talking about that a little bit. That

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you know, a team like Arizona
playing in the league that's just really bad

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this year and it has been really
bad other years. I mean, how

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much does that really hurt? You
know, a team like Arizona who's piled

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up all those wins at the start
of the year, but by the time

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we get to now, so many
people have forgotten about those. The committee

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does it. The committee has team
sheets and we've looked at them, to

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look at them every day, and
those stick out to you. So the

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casual I forget, but they're not
the ones in the tournament. The pre

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having a weaker conference, it will
be a detriment because you don't get the

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quality or the amount of quality with
or opportunities they will have. And say

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every twelve but you know, you've
got to take advantage of the opportunities when

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you do have them, and there's
a fairly good job of that. They've

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got a couple of questionable losses,
but at this point of the seasons,

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there's not many teams that don't.
So Shelby, how long have you been

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doing this? And are are seasons
more tough than others to put these things

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together? These are different. It's
not necessarily they're tough. It was tough

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every year. I've been doing it
twenty years now, but it's just different.

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The che trying to pick who's who's
the ultimate to be in the tournament

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so interesting? Do you you know, do you see it since with this

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bracket right now, could there be
a lot of changes, particularly at the

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top, you know, with what's
left to play? Or do you think

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we're getting pretty well settled into into
who's where? I think we're pretty much

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set. Uh. I mean,
they'll beat some other teams here the bubble

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that played good over this last week
in the tournament, but it all really

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depends on the regular season and how
you did. It's easier for there to

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be movement at the bottom of the
bracket, you know, twelve seeds eleven

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seeds, ten seeds than one,
two three. I think my top twelve

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fourteen are set not in order,
but I feel confident they'll be there.

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Do you do the same thing with
like to do with NCB. I'm sure

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00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.799
you do. For the scrub the
ones and the twos and twos and the

408
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:17.880
threes and and how long does it
take you to do your bracket? All

409
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.640
day Friday, I've been scrubbing.
I put my back out of it every

410
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.160
morning, and during the week it's
I'll remind myself, I make notes that

411
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.920
I got to do this Friday.
That way, I s all day Friday

412
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.839
doing it and free the rest of
the week. But the upcut of the

413
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:38.920
week, I figured it will be
a lot of scrubbing you today. I

414
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.920
don't want to overanalyze what made you
start doing this? You know? I

415
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.480
mean, because it's a lot of
work, right, and I don't know

416
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:51.119
how much of a reward you get
from it, either through visibility, financially,

417
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.440
whatever. But this is a lot
of work. What made you start

418
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:59.279
doing this? I got mad at
Joe Lenardo because he published a bracket Monday

419
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.960
and Thursday, and I wondered how
my teams are doing every day so let

420
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.599
me ask you, are you married. I'm not say if you are,

421
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.839
she must love you because he's already
married to this braetology. Well, you

422
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:25.079
don't have to worry about all the
bracket allergy groupies. That's pretty good.

423
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.000
So okay, okay, why seriously? I mean, well, you know

424
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.960
what, what's the enjoyment you get
out of out of doing this? I

425
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.559
like doing puzzles, and I looked
at this as like a big puzzle.

426
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.559
And the reason I started is that
was a legitimate reason. Joe only published

427
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.200
his Monday and Thursday. Well,
my team played Tuesday night, so by

428
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.279
Wednesday I wanted to know how they
did. You know, did that move

429
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.319
their spot in the bracket? And
so I just thought give a shot.

430
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.720
And by the end of the year
I was the top five of the nation.

431
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.000
So I was like, yeah,
I'm pretty good this. I'll keep

432
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.480
doing this. Yeah. So I
think that's one of your things. You're

433
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.480
very accurate with it. Last year, I think, how'd you do to

434
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:10.799
you? Maybe one miss? I
had one death and I had three other

435
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.400
teams that I missed by one Steed
live. Wow about two Steed lives?

436
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.960
All right, Okay, do you
do brackets like for in pools and stuff

437
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.680
like that, since you're such an
expert, or is that like an unfair

438
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.799
advantage? And I wouldn't want you
in my pool and you would want me

439
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.680
in your pool because John Rothstein said
it best better than after anybody else to

440
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:38.359
say it. We studied and so
well, we know, we feel we

441
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:44.519
know them so much. But march
manages a different beaf and when it starts,

442
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.319
I'm gonna fall to the bottom of
the right. So, Shelby,

443
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.240
I told my parents the same thing. Parents. I studied so much.

444
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:56.240
I got the engine wrong, right
right. I feel like I'm overqualified to

445
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:01.799
answer the questions, but not a
good, good one. Hey, I

446
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.359
used it? Okay, No cool, Shelby, Thanks a bunch. We'll

447
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:10.079
probably keep in touch with you throughout
the years. Enjoy talking to you.

448
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:19.119
Thanks much. Shall be masked.
Go to it. Bracket bracketology groupies Okay,

449
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.640
bracket Wag. Bracketwag dot com.
That's his website. You can cat

450
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.720
you can get him under he's his
uh Twitter handle, his bracket Wag.

451
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.720
His name is Shelby Mass. He's
also got a Facebook bracketology. Where do

452
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:37.480
you think those groupies are at the
library outside? I'm thinking of those women

453
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.519
that in eighty for eighty for Brady. That's what I'm thinking when he's saying

454
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.279
brack, when he's saying bracket bracket
groupies, either that the bracket groupies or

455
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.319
those guys down in the basement the
mom's, their mom's house, you know,

456
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.960
Mildred, Where do you think a
bag of cheetos sitting in their boxer

457
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:04.359
shorts figuring out brackets for and filling
out like twenty of them for this is

458
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.359
the Big Bang theory? Yeah,
you know those guys. Yeah, so

459
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.039
it's fun. It's going to be
that fun time. I'm getting that.

460
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.640
I'm getting you stuff by you know
where, you know. A week from

461
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.319
tomorrow I leave for the Pac TWEF
Tournament. I'm excited. It's gonna be

462
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:22.799
a lot of I joked about this
with with uh with of course. So

463
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:29.359
what did you think about him saying
possibility zags against Arizona. I think Arizona

464
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.240
fan would lose its mind. They
don't want to play that. Yeah I

465
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.920
don't. Tommy doesn't. Yeah,
Tommy doesn't. But you know who did

466
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.119
we talk to? It was you
that it was when you came back from

467
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.359
your from your mock bracket they said
they don't make the match ups. Yeah,

468
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:52.400
the committee isn't looking to put Conspira
and Arizona. Yeah, in a

469
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.359
bracket where they've got to face each
other. I don't know that Arizona fan

470
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.000
would like that, I know,
but he's right. Though they fall in

471
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.240
the seventh line, nine on the
eighth line, there's a chance because they'll

472
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.519
be up north. Yeah, it's
starting to sound of me that Arizona is

473
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.519
gonna wind up at TC because they
don't have anybody left. No, no,

474
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:08.599
we talked about that, because Tennessee
is the right. They don't have

475
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:14.039
anybody left to play unless Tennessee and
North Carolina to lose a couple of games,

476
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.559
right, they don't have any Arizona
doesn't have any anything left to boost

477
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:22.280
their their their their numbers or whatever. So and that win in Alabama for

478
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.719
Tennessee is so impressive the road.
All right, let's take our God,

479
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I on the ball. Hey, welcome

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's Jakinsaw's got our guy, Kevinan
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528
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want to call, it will take
your calls five two zero, four,

529
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one, six seventy four to forty. Your thoughts on today's guests, Steve,

530
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.079
I'm looking at the box of cupcakes
here. There's three of us in

531
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.480
the room. There's four cupcakes missing. Man, Why you gotta do it

532
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:15.239
like that? You got it?
I got it. You gotta say the

533
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.239
inside the outside. Boys. You
know, I'm I had my one,

534
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.599
my extra. There were three.
There were only three missing when I left

535
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.760
the room. No, I did
it before you go? Did you know?

536
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.360
Okay, I guess I didn't know. That's funny. Three go to

537
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.440
twelve? How many went? Or
nine? Nine of them or nine of

538
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.440
them? We could reach that three? No, No, I'm probably taking

539
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.119
one home with these. We shouldn't. We could have. Yeah, No,

540
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.440
I'm not taking the I'm not twenty
three anymore, so I can't eat,

541
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:49.239
but I'm not. We're all on
mads. Now. That's supposed to

542
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.000
come back to Yeah, we're not
supposed to be those things that's supposed to

543
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:59.199
sugar. Okay, so I agree
with you. I think they end up

544
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.719
at the two. Yeah again,
and not because of what are they,

545
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.840
you know, good enough to be
a number one, deserve to be a

546
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.559
number one or whatever, just that
this is the point where it's so close,

547
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:14.159
right, It's so close that you
know, the the determining factors.

548
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:15.960
Who are you playing the rest of
the way out? And Arizona just doesn't

549
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.519
have anybody that that that that wows
you. They don't I mean U c

550
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.119
l A and us C. I
mean in the normal season, right,

551
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.519
this weekend for Arizona is a weekend
where they can really gain some ground,

552
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.880
go to USC and U c l
A, you know, and instead it's

553
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.760
kind of like, oh God,
you're just playing U c l A and

554
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.760
USC. You suck. I was
gonna I was gonna ask you, Steve,

555
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.760
because you're you're a big believer that
we're going to lose one of these

556
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:45.000
two games this weekend. I was, I'm humming it on, I'm himming

557
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.239
it high because I did believe that
two three weeks ago. I don't know

558
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.760
if I believe that anymore, but
if they do, I think they'll lose

559
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:53.800
Thursday. I was just saying,
we were saying, we're saying that they're

560
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:55.840
gonna lose one, but we're also
saying, like, well, we don't

561
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.159
play anybody the rest of the year, you know what I mean. Yeah,

562
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:01.000
I know, but but it's just
because it's u c l A.

563
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:07.840
And that's it. It's in u
c l A. It's the rivalry Crowdion

564
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.920
was pissed the last time he was
here. Remember he got on Justin Spears.

565
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.559
Yeah, I would expect that from
you. Speak from you? What

566
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.880
did I say? What did I
expect? Nothing less for That's what it

567
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.800
was. I expect nothing less for
you. Yeah. And they had them,

568
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:27.400
I mean A had them by twenty
eight nineteen or whatever nineteen. So

569
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.440
we'll see. Uh, And it's
always a big game at UCLA. It's

570
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.800
the only time they ever show up
for that game. So we'll see.

571
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.840
Yeah. No, I'm not I
I too. I think that somehow they're

572
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.480
going to find a way to lose
one. But you know, again,

573
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.599
we thought they were going to lose
one up in the Mountain Schools. And

574
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.639
that's a tough today. Yeah,
it's a tougher trip than than the than

575
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.639
the UCLA said you, no question, right, you know, and they

576
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.760
and they won those two games up
there, and look, we talked about

577
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.920
a while, Ucla is going to
be up for this was their zone.

578
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.880
Yeah, you know, Arizona's gonna
be up for you were true? True

579
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.280
because they because it's it's the last
time and they just want to beat the

580
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.280
hell out of them. Take this
call, Hire on the air and I

581
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:13.880
on the ball. Yes, Nico, where you been, hey man,

582
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:20.119
I've been enjoying the single life.
See you're listening to me, Nico,

583
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.559
You listen to me? What's up? Nico? Hey man? That last

584
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.840
gets your head on now. Yeah, man, you seemed like you.

585
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.440
But I don't think it matters where
you get placed in the bracket. I

586
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:43.599
think it's bullshit. Ok Okay,
Well it does. It does, Nico,

587
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.000
because if Arizona doesn't play Princeton last
year, they play some other you

588
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.280
know, fifteen seed that doesn't can't
do a Princeton, does they're still in

589
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.400
the tournament. Or if they don't
face Houston the year before in the sweet

590
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.480
sixteen. Yeah, I think it
does matter. I don't know, man,

591
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.960
I think you just got to get
lucky. Man. Well, you

592
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.480
have to be a bit lucky.
You do. And it doesn't matter who

593
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.280
you play. If Arizona faces a
team like Princeton or a methodical, slow

594
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.199
down whatever team that is, they're
in trouble. They're in trouble. Maybe

595
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.760
they'll win, but they're in trouble. You know this, Nicole. You've

596
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:20.159
watched enough games for Arizona's history that
if the team that plays methodical or slow

597
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.440
down or in the fifties, Arizona
doesn't play well. Hey man, I'm

598
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.119
just saying, man, I think
you just take clut That's the honest way.

599
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:35.440
I think you're saying lucky. It
doesn't take momentum. You're saying that

600
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:42.760
the luck gave Arizona the title in
ninety seven. Yeah, they played pretty

601
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.719
well. Yeah, but they beat
how many number one season they beat three?

602
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.760
Then what were they? Right?
There were four? There were four?

603
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.400
And actually you you think that that
that wasn't an unluck that was an

604
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.519
unlucky bracket for them because they wind
up in a bracket with Kansas, which

605
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:02.840
at that time was the hands down
favorite to win that tournament. Hey man,

606
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.039
okay, I'm not gonna lie.
Man, I'm pretty messed up.

607
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:17.639
And you guys, thanks for calling. Thanks thanks thanks for the curse between

608
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:25.400
Nico and Gabe Man and Howard spirited
spirited callers exactly exactly. But yeah,

609
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:29.960
I don't know. I think as
we were saying, I think Arizona settling

610
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.239
into into a team well setting you
said you did you hear Tommy on Saturday?

611
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.159
Tell him about the trending. Obviously
one night out of ten they're playing

612
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.840
very well or they you know,
spirts, they played very well Saturday.

613
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.119
They played the best probably this year, well, certainly calendar year, this

614
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:51.039
calendar year, calendar certainly in the
in the in the twenty twenty four right

615
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.199
right, and uh hard not to
like them. The thing about it too

616
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.480
is Jay and I've said this before, people see the good games and that's

617
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.920
what they say. That's where they
Arizona. They don't see him against the

618
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.639
stan Birds or the well, they
don't watch like the Colorado game last night.

619
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.519
Why watching that game exactly exactly because
a handle and then they wake up

620
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.800
in the morning. What they catch
up? You know, they see him

621
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:15.360
at playing Oregon at noon, you
know noon Tucson time, two o'clock Eastern

622
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.719
time. Okay, this is my
chances to see Arizona and they see what

623
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.400
they did like, holy hell,
these guys are good, right right.

624
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.960
They don't get the total gauge of
the whole situation. I think the big

625
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.960
twelves like Tattoo because you don't know
what the team you're going to see on

626
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.280
the road or at home. Yeah, Kansas, look at come on fifth

627
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.599
or whatever. I stopped watching Kansas. I'm like, okay, there,

628
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.000
I stopped watching because when when I
turned on to my bracket, I don't

629
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.400
want to be soiled by the fact
that they've seen them lose these sure these

630
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.079
games. I mean they're still Kansas. Well that was that good play.

631
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.760
I was just gonna see that because
when people do their brackets, said,

632
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.840
you know, Mildrid from the mail
room wins this thing because she doesn't know

633
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.000
Kansas. Yeah, and then we
are are biased because of the blue blood

634
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.280
names. Right now, I hear
you. I'm one of those, Dave.

635
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.679
I sit there and start doing a
bracket. I can't. I can't

636
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.360
get Kansas out of the tournament,
you know, in the on the second

637
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.480
day, kicking yourself if you can't
pick due to lose to fairly Dickinson.

638
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.480
My brackets are always chock, always
chock. I think a lot of people's

639
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.039
are and I hate that. Yeah, well, because I mean, the

640
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:22.599
upsets are hard to predict, you, They're They're very hard to predict.

641
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:24.760
Let's take this call high. You're
on the air and I on the ball.

642
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.760
Yes, sir, are you guys
today? We're good? Good?

643
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.199
Did you save me a cake or
whatever? The heck it? Well?

644
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:43.760
Can you take it at your diabetic
country? This is diabetes and a cup

645
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:49.800
here. I'll save you too.
If that's the case. Everybody's a comedian.

646
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.119
I think if they come in as
a number two, I think that's

647
00:45:55.159 --> 00:46:01.199
actually more advantageous. Take some of
the pressure off of being a number one.

648
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.920
Because when's the last time you saw
all four number ones in the final

649
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:12.360
four? But do you think number
one? Do you think a one is

650
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.159
pressure or is it a sort of
a badge of honor? I mean,

651
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.400
which one is it? Or is
it both? It's both, absolutely both,

652
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.079
And I think as much as I
love Arizona, I think the number

653
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.480
two is probably more appropriate. Yeah, you know, I don't. I

654
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.039
don't want to discount the value of
this team, but they have these ups

655
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:35.119
and downs, and I've been watching
you know, the Big twelve, the

656
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:39.639
ACC the SEC there's so many good
teams out there. I mean, this

657
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:45.639
is going to be a hard,
hard tournament to try to really get your

658
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:52.039
best. I bet you everybody fills
out one of these brackets, they'll be

659
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:58.280
blown up after the first there's always
But let's remind you, Rick that Arizona

660
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.599
is one of the only teams I
think, the only team that lose has

661
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.800
the number two seed in the first
round. The lost in Santa Clara and

662
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.360
they lost last year to do twice. That's what. Yeah, yeah,

663
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:13.840
but let's on that because Purdue is
lost as the two and one. Okay,

664
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.719
in the last two years. We
don't cover Purdue. Well I heard

665
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.760
that. You look that young man
from Purdue. I mean, he is

666
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:30.760
an absolute stud whatever his name is
seven, yes, whatever, he's seven.

667
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:37.239
He's seventh plus seed. And he's
very good athlete too. I mean

668
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.440
he's just not a tall kid.
He's a good athlete. So whoever gets

669
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:46.480
Purdue in the first three rounds is
going to have a lot to h The

670
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:52.400
only advantage of Arizona place Purdue again, Ballow is much better and he's much

671
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.960
stronger. I think, uh,
and I think you're gonna see Ballow just

672
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.960
really step up. He's he's got
something to prove and he's looking at the

673
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:08.360
NBA. Okay, thanks Rick,
I'm gonna save you two cupcakes, all

674
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:15.280
right, and don't forget my insulin
while you're at it. Okay, thank

675
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:22.039
you, And you know what to
say about sugar hid now, so I

676
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.760
know you are. You're messed up. I can tell Stephen Nico this is

677
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:28.880
your mom's fault. Okay, Kevin, this is your mom's faul because she

678
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.440
emailed both It's Steve and I said
not to forget that today was your birthday.

679
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.280
I had to give you a hug, and Steve got you some cupcakes.

680
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.519
At least the hug was free,
right, Yeah, yeah, the

681
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.559
hug was free. Actually charged for
those, and I got them because I

682
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:45.599
knew I was gonna have at least
two. O my gosh, too funny.

683
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.159
Okay, we got a moment for
one more last another call. Yeah,

684
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:52.280
see what happens. But uh,
Babow, let's go to the bottle

685
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:59.800
because he he doesn't even look like
Babo from October November. He's slimmed down,

686
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.360
he's running the court much better and
a nine straight double doubles. But

687
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.280
you remember back in the day,
his body language is better. He was

688
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.400
there. I had the weight of
the world on his shoulders. Almost partly

689
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:16.119
because he had the weight of the
world on his shoulders. These cupcakes don't

690
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:21.760
show it to funny story that you
only get from I on the ball because

691
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.559
I'm on the stat crew. So
Bobo's got nine rebounds. Okay, I

692
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:29.039
want to hear the story because he
was stuck there for a while. Yeah,

693
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.639
so he's got nine rebounds. And
there was there was a tip a

694
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.440
play where number five, the guy
who was scoring all the points, goes

695
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.599
into the lane throws up a floater. But it wasn't a it was a

696
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:44.440
pass, Okay, it was it
was It was intended to be an alley

697
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:49.400
you and uh and Ballow intercepted it. Remember there was like about four or

698
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.159
five minutes left in the game.
All right, somebody from the bench comes

699
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:57.480
over and tried to sell that that
was a shot with a block and a

700
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.039
rebound by Bell and we swatted that
away. They said, he said,

701
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:06.119
look, we're a friendly stat crew, but you're not getting that right there

702
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.679
him number ten on a Yeah,
he tipped it out right, tipped it

703
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:10.559
out. That's a rebound, and
then he got two more, right,

704
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.280
I got more. That is a
rebound. Uh. You know, if

705
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.920
a guy, if it's a controlled
tip where they're tipping the ball out and

706
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.079
and they get and they and his
team recovers the ball, that's considered a

707
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.599
rebound. So that's that's how he
got his tenth rebound. A ball went

708
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.800
up and he tipped it out and
he and and and an Arizona guy got

709
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.920
it, So he gets credit for
that rebound. Did you watch what do

710
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:37.679
you guys watch? Bradley better this
week Saturday than how he was handling himself.

711
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.679
Yeah, yeah, he's he looks
so much, I know, confident,

712
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.400
happy as you said, he was
happier on the court. Who uh,

713
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.679
Jane Bradley, Oh, I'm thinking
of Buzz Well, never mind Bradley.

714
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:52.880
He was the same Jay and Bradley. I saw so his first assist

715
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.840
that we talked about, he just
handled the ball up. The guy took

716
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:59.960
a shut and got his assist.
So I'm still the jury's out with being

717
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:01.639
it will be out for a while. So he was not a he was

718
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:06.599
not a judgeable game for him from
my eyes, crissed. He goes downhill

719
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.639
every time he chance he gets and
he did give up the ball a couple

720
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.320
of times. So I'll give you
a better example the next couple of games.

721
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.400
But you're asking about fantastic he looked. He looked so much more at

722
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:22.880
ease with himself. Yeah, right
on the on the court, Like just

723
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.159
say, there wasn't a whole lot
of pressure on him or something. He

724
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.599
was just like, I'm out here
to have fun and play, and he

725
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:34.079
didn't. And I was actually watching
him before before the game, you know,

726
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.000
in his warm ups and stuff.
And you know, I'm sitting at

727
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.000
the table from forty five minutes before
the game till till till it starts,

728
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.840
and I watch these guys and I
try and get a sense of you know,

729
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.360
who's slumping their shoulders, who's shooting
the ball and not shooting very well,

730
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:51.239
who's not trying when they're shooting.
You know, you see a guy

731
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.679
like Caleb Love who has a who
has a routine. You know, he

732
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:58.280
works his way around the three point
line, and the other day he made

733
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.360
like fifteen in a row. So
let me tell you because we talked about

734
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.639
this. Yeah, uh, and
we don't have a minute. Uh.

735
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.039
You say to bet this that he's
not gonna be in the NBA. You

736
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.079
say yes, I say no for
extended period of time. So so no

737
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.679
one has n't be in any mocks. So what do you think. We

738
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.400
don't We don't live in the world
in the mocro. Yeah, you don't

739
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:21.599
get he's gonna Okay, I think
he's going to get a shot somehow.

740
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.559
Totally agree. I think he's I
think he's got a place with a guy

741
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.320
for the much talent and he we've
seen it before. He's one of these

742
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.599
guys. Let's see hi him mid
March and April him. It's crazy when

743
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.679
he could he could raise his stock
or these next couple weeks crazy. It's

744
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.280
crazy when you think how good he
is and he's still not considered an NBA

745
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:42.760
And that's how different. That's how
good you got to be. That's how

746
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.480
good you To my point, that's
why it's but I never would have thought

747
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:50.519
Josh Green will be sticking around the
NBA and he's still there. But that's

748
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:52.639
what I was saying. It's a
better player. It's about the intangibles too,

749
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:58.280
because he's very athletes. Yeah,
Josh Green, crazy mccuddle is the

750
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.920
only nine I said, you have
other day nine years, the only guy

751
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:07.880
you again, but TJ. McConnell
is like Woody Harrison and white Man can't

752
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.159
jump. He's that guy backward hat, the Gray Sox. Right, that's

753
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.199
who he is, and he's working. He's gonna go into his tenth year

754
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.119
next year. All right, we'll
be back tomorrow more great guests, so

755
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:21.360
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756
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