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Well, it's my honor to bring
in for our second appearance on this podcast

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together none other than Jake Paul.
Jake, I know you're getting ready for

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a fight coming up December the fifteenth, live on Desown at the carib Royale

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Resort in Orlando, Florida against Andre
August. Thank you so much for doing

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this, Welcome to the show.
How things going, getting ready for your

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fight? Thank you for having me, man, it's always great to speak

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and feeling good, you know,
locked in. I have had an amazing

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camp, which every fighter says in
every interview, but it is true.

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I'm ready to fight and just falling
more and more in love with this sport

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and the training and the details and
bettering myself as an athlete and increasing the

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sparring and just man, it's just
been an amazing time and I'm excited to

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show my new new skills set from
this camp on December fifteenth. What is

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it that you like the best about
boxing? As you've come to the sport

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without a big amateur career, not
something you did as a small child,

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like a lot of the great pros
do. What is it about it that

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you like the best? Wow?
That's tough. Wow, you know that

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there's so much, but I would
say the fight night first and foremost,

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like just the anticipation, all the
hard work that goes into that one moment,

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you know, showcasing the sacrifice,
and you know, hopefully most of

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the time coming out with the with
the win, and that feeling of the

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satisfaction afterwards, knowing what you accomplished, I think is something that I've never

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experienced before. I don't think there's
a greater form of satisfaction or a greater

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feeling in the world than ultimate sacrifice
for a long period of time and then

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it picking off on a on a
global state. So you had your fight

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with Tommy Fiery earlier this year in
February. You know, you took your

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first loss. It was a very
close fight, did good business for everybody,

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I guess and from what I understand, but it was the first time

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you fought against a guy that was
mainly a boxer, not an NNA fighter

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or some non combat specialist. I
wonder coming out of that situation, what

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did you learn the most about in
that Because you seem to brush it off

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fine when you had your fight after
that, Yeah, I learned so much,

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you know, hindsight is twenty twenty, and I think mostly learning that

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you're not invincible like a certain you
were all human, and I was going

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through so much during that time.
I don't even want to get into it

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because people, oh, it's excuses
whatever. But and I just powered through

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because I would never want to like
reschedule a fight or pull out of something

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whatever. And so that was a
big learning lesson in realizing how important it

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is to have the right people around
me to prepare for these big moments.

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And you certainly brought Yeah, I
mean you certainly bounce back. Well,

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I mean you fought your next fight
against Nate Diaz in August. Obviously he's

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an MMA fighter, but a big
star in that sport, kind of a

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grudge match. I guess it was
a big pay per view. You guys

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did a huge gate at the American
Airline Center in Dallas, big crowd.

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You guys talked about doing a rematch. I think I heard you say you

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maybe you'll do a rematch in a
cage with him, and nothing really seemed

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to come of that. Is that
still something in your mind about a possible

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rematch, either in boxing or in
nick martial arts? Yeah, I wanted

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to run it in MMA. We
had, you know, the ten million

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dollar offer to him, and there's
still silence on his end other than some

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you know tweets that right rays clearly
high and say like random things. But

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you know, I think he got
the page from our fight. It was

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like Wow, that's big, that's
massive, and then wants to do it

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again. But it's just not willing
to risk it in MMA. I think

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he knows what would happen there and
I believe I would clearly dominate him and

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ruin his legacy. So I don't
think he's willing to risk it for the

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money. So now you go into
this fight a different, different kind of

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animal altogether as far as the kind
of event, it is, the kind

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of opponent you're facing. You're taking
on a fighter named Andre August, staying

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true to your word that you would
fight an actual boxer again, not an

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MMA fighter or non combat person.
He's ten and one with a draw as

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a boxer. He has I looking
at his record, he won five in

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a row, he has a win. He had a long layoff, but

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he came back. He had a
fight victory over the summer in August.

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Can you just talk me through your
decision to go this route as in terms

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of an actual boxer, not a
big name with you know, but a

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guy with similar professional experience to you. It's not a pay per view like

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most of your fights have been.
It's not in a huge arena. We

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know where you've done big business.
It's it's what most prospects in boxing do

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is take on an opponent of a
similar sort of level number of fights and

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try to continue to build up their
experience and their skills. But talk me

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through a little bit your decision to
go this route instead of you could have

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easily done some other Diaz ish kind
of event. Yeah, this is just

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my road to world champion. And
I've said it since day one that I'm

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gonna be a world champion and fighting
the biggest fights in the world and everyone's

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gonna see that. I'm gonna beat
Canelo and all of these things. And

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now it's just me putting that into
action, gaining the experience, and it

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not being about the business side or
the entertainment side of things anymore. This

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is about me, my team,
my skill set, and getting better and

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staying sharp in camp as a young
boxing prospect like you alluded to and just

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taking the more traditional boxing route,
which is what I'm here to do because

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I believe, you know, it's
gonna be one of the greatest sports stories

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ever world a world champion. So
you would acknowledge then that for doing this

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fight. And I'm not saying that
Jake Paul's not making money on a fight

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like this. Obviously you wouldn't be
doing it if you weren't. I don't

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believe. But by not doing a
pay per view against a more known name,

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be it boxer or MMA person,
that you are leaving money on the

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table by doing a non pay per
view, by not doing the fight in

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a big arena. Yeah, for
sure. You know, I don't even

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know how much money I'm making for
this fight, to tell you the truth,

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and could care less. And I've
grossed you know, two hundred and

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fifty million dollars in interview in three
years. And it's just not about the

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business I have, you know,
money coming in so many other ways,

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like and so many businesses that it's
just like, yo, we don't need

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to do that. It's sure,
it's great, but I'm truly focused on

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the sport of boxing and my skill
set. Yeah, I think it's just

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like the entertainment and the pay per
views and all of that's fun, but

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I'm serious about becoming a world champion
and this is the route to that.

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I kind of look at your career
as backwards from what most would do,

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Whereas most fighters would start out doing
what you're doing now, which is taking

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on an unknown opponent but with a
certain level of experience, trying to build

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up your career, your skills,
your popularity, et cetera. But you're

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kind of doing it in the in
the reverse, where you started off in

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huge fights, you know, second
or third fight on pay per view,

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fighting big names, making huge money, selling huge arenas pay per views,

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and now it's going the other direction. What are your thoughts about doing in

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that order as opposed to the more
traditional order, because you could have done

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this at the beginning. Yeah,
it's very interesting. It's weird, dude.

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I mean, I gotta be honest
with you. Yeah, no,

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I don't think this has ever happened
in the sport of boxing, but it's

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just how things played out, right. This all started with you know,

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YouTubers talking shit to each other and
then you know, decided to fight,

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and then one thing led to another. I'm fighting more YouTubers, Then all

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of a sudden, I'm fighting Nate
Robinson. Then I'm fighting a UFC you

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know, undefeated guy, Ben Askering. And this is just how the cookie

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crumbled. And I didn't know I
was going to fall in love with the

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sport. I didn't know this is
going to become my love, my passion,

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my destiny, and there's something beautiful
about that, and I hope to

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set the precedent, you know,
moving forward. So do you think after

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this though, then you'll go back
on pay per view against another like bigger

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name, or are you ready to
do like a few of these types of

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fights in a row, to do
what you want to do, which is

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to put yourself in the best possible
position to get a big time, you

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know, legit world title fight at
some point. Yeah, I think it'll

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be a balance as things come through
the door. But for now, it's

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focusing on fighting prospects and gaining experience. But yeah, let's say one of

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these idiots who calls me out wants
to get smoked up in a blunt for

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ten million dollars, Like, of
course I'm gonna go and do that.

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But my main focus, you know, that's I call those the side quest

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this this is the main quest,
and the main destination is being a world

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champion, and for now it's fighting
real boxers with real skill and challenging myself.

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This is the key. But just
to add, he's still making a

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seven figure payday on this fight.
I'm sure he's still gonna be either the

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first or potentially second, but most
likely the biggest gate in Orlando history for

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a boxing event. Right Like,
the business is still great for someone with

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his experience, and a big part
of that is the profile he's built through

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his first aid fights to then be
able to do this. At the same

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time, he never wanted to charge
his fans for a pay per view to

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fight a guy that no one's ever
heard of, and no one is saying

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this is, you know, a
true gatekeeper to a championship. Oh for

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sure. Personal decision to do right
by his fan base, I understand,

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and I'm glad to hear that that's
actually a good thing. I actually have.

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I have two more questions for Jake. One of the things, and

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it's not about your career so much, Jake, but you have a women's

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world championship fight on the undercard between
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They're fighting for the vacant WBC Women's
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Of course, she's the former undisputed
champion in that weight class. You've been

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a huge supporter at You and Nikisa
been big supporters of women's boxing. You

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guys have helped make Amanda Serrano went
too a big star into a big draw.

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I'm wondering, Jake, from your
point of view, what was it

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about it that made you decide to
throw your name and your weight, so

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to speak, behind the women's side
of the sport. Yeah. Look,

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I think it started with Amanda Serrana
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amazing she is as a person,
and her coach and other manager, Jordan,

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and our relationship with them growing,
and then seeing how needed it was

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to help the women in this sport, and I started to speak about it.

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I started to get them big paydays, and then all of a sudden,

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it's like Jake Paul is the spokesperson
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like this responsibility almost that was taken
on my shoulders, and there wasn't equality.

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There was you know, they were
being taken advantage of. They weren't

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getting the same opportunities blah blah blah. And we have the ability, because

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of our unique positioning and marketing and
skill set to help and change this for

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And that's exactly what we've done,
and that's what we love to do,

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both the Keisa and I when we
have conversations, it's how do we make

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history first, and then the business
side they comes second. Jake, thank

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you very much for taking time to
talk to me today about your FROD.

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I wish you the best of luck
and I'm interested to see how you can

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against a non uh and an a
guy, a guy that's a boxer like

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yourself that's done the things in the
gym and is trying to also better himself.

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Awesome men, No, appreciate it, appreciate the time today and yeah

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and look forward to it. All
right, Thank you very much to take Paul MHM