WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:53.479 The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from 2 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:58.119 around the world. It is time for another edition of the flat Earth Files. 3 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.280 I hope this podcast finds everyone well and you made it through this snowy 4 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:06.400 and cold weekend. I know it's affected a lot of people here in the 5 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:10.319 United States, so again, I hope you had a great weekend. We 6 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:12.359 have a great guest standing by, Carly who will be joining us in just 7 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:17.280 a moment. Before we bring her on, just a couple of quick reminders, 8 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:21.120 please do stop by the website and say hello. It is the flat 9 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:25.120 Earthfiles at gmail dot com. 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Thank 19 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:08.479 you, thanks so much for joining us this evening, and please take some 20 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.919 time and introduce yourself to the audience. All right, well, well my 21 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:16.879 name is Carly. I live in Arizona. I have a husband and three 22 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:23.400 little kiddos. They're seven, six, and thirty, and we homeschool. 23 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:30.560 And yeah, that's about it. Now. You busy with homeschooling, Yeah, 24 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.439 for sure. And let's start off with that topic before we start talking 25 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.039 about your journey to the truth and everything else. At what point did you 26 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:44.039 decide you were going to homeschool and was there a certain event that kind of 27 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:50.599 prompted you to think about homeschooling. Absolutely, yes, it was twenty twenty 28 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.280 and a lot of my story will center around that, probably as a lot 29 00:02:55.280 --> 00:03:00.360 of people I've heard on your podcast. But wasn't actually going to homeschool and 30 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:04.240 I had friend. I had a friend who did, and she had kind 31 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.960 of talked to me about it, and I was just the whole time, 32 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.159 I was kind of like, I don't know, I don't I don't think 33 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:13.840 I'm going to do that, you know, Sure, And then. But 34 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:17.000 then twenty twenty rolled around and we had actually just toured a bunch of preschools 35 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:21.439 for my daughter, who was then you know, preschool age at the time. 36 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.960 I think she was turning four, and we found one that we really 37 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.199 really liked. We actually signed her up, and then she never got to 38 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.039 go because everything went crazy twenty twenty. You know, this was around March 39 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:35.479 twenty twenty. I think she was going to start that fall, Wow, 40 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.120 and everything kind of went crazy. Things shut down. I can't remember if 41 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:46.159 her preschool even was open at that time, but or if they were, 42 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.879 you know, doing the whole mask thing or whatever, but everything just went 43 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:54.400 crazy, and so I decided, I think by the time that fall rolled 44 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.159 around and she was going to be there, they were doing masking and kind 45 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.439 of doing things to distance the kids and all that stuff, and I just 46 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:08.159 really didn't want that to be her first experience going to a school, and 47 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.599 so I decided to just homeschool her because I've actually been a preschool teacher for 48 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.639 four years years ago, and I was like, I can do preschool. 49 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.040 I'll just keep her home for preschool and teach her everything, you know, 50 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:26.800 And then when kindergarten rolled around. They were kind of back to normal ish, 51 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.319 but they were sending kids home every two weeks. I would hear from 52 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.720 friends like, this is the plan of somebody in your family comes down with 53 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.839 symptoms, you know, we have to send them home for two weeks and 54 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.360 they have to do virtual online school, and then when they come back, 55 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.399 they have to wear masks. And I just didn't want that to be her 56 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.120 first experience in school either, and I thought that would be very disruptive to 57 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.759 learning and everything else. And I wanted her to be able to sit by 58 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:54.600 friends and make friends, you know. So again I was like, well, 59 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:59.199 I can homeschool for kindergarten. That's easy, you know. And then 60 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.079 my confidence the more I did it. And then my younger one was going 61 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:05.800 into the preschool age and I started with her, and I had a newborn 62 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:10.120 at home, and I was just the more I did it, the more 63 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.120 I liked it and wanted to stay with it. So none of them have 64 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.879 actually ever gone to school, which I'm thankful for now. And now it's 65 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.160 to the point where I don't think I could send them anywhere ever. Yeah, 66 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.680 and it's interesting, I don't know if you had the same fears I 67 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.480 had for me, that was a big leap to homeschool because you hear the 68 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.480 oh, the kid's a homeschool kid, and like everything else, you only 69 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:33.879 hear the negative sides of it, and it was for me, I felt 70 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:39.120 like it was a very big decision, and I was very nervous about doing 71 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.240 it, and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't cheating her of an 72 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.079 education. But when you come through it on the other side, you realize 73 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.800 that it's one of the greatest decisions that you ever make, and that you're 74 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:53.839 able to mold the mind of your own child, and you're able to to 75 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:58.439 a certain extent. Listen, you know, there's they have ways to get 76 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.120 to your children, right the television, that the cell phone and everything else. 77 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.839 But at the same time you're much more in control. But again I 78 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:10.839 also realized, I just said this on the last podcast, this isn't for 79 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:15.279 everybody, and some people do under you know, they think their children out 80 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.360 there like my granddaughter who were socializing is so important, such an important part 81 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:24.040 of their character. And again it's not a magical elixir like it's for everybody. 82 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:28.000 But for me in that time frame, the same thing with twenty twenty 83 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:32.920 and seeing the confidence being taken away from children. When I was living in 84 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:38.759 Dover, we literally literally live next to an elementary school, and I remember 85 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.319 being either the end of May or the first week of June, it was 86 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:46.519 eighty eight degrees and these children of twenty twenty and these children were outside it 87 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:53.120 was eighty five degrees wearing masks. Oh yeah outside even Yeah, we live 88 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:56.000 where it gets really really hot, and we would see that too, and 89 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:01.279 I would just like, I cannot be healthy. It's harmful. It's so 90 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:04.959 hot out here sometimes, so I can't imagine even when the school year starts, 91 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:12.319 it's still really really hot, and I just can't imagine them being outside 92 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:19.160 like that on the playground or whatever. And yeah, you're right. We 93 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:25.519 just at first it was very knock confident about it. I remember finding some 94 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.120 homeschool groups on Facebook and going on there and just kind of panicking and being 95 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.519 like should I really I don't know what I should do. I don't know 96 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.360 if I should do this, Like what if she can't get into college? 97 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:38.639 Like I was already going there in my head, you know, And I 98 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.839 remember the mom's on there just really helping me and being like, Okay, 99 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:46.959 take a breath, she's preschool page, you know, And I don't know, 100 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.879 my confidence just built with it. Every single I would say, not 101 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:55.160 even every year, every month or so. I just felt more and more 102 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:00.639 confident in what I was doing. And now there's just a real and reasons 103 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.600 now why I'm doing it more than what started it. It the reasons keep 104 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.079 building. Yeah agree now, oh sorry, go ahead. And now I've 105 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.920 just been the one encouraging new moms who are coming on these groups and doing 106 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.480 the same thing I did, you know. So it's been really interesting, 107 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.680 and I actually started a whole group for our neighborhood, a homeschool group. 108 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.360 Really. We live kind of remote, so we only we do have a 109 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.440 school here, but it's it's the only option, and so a lot of 110 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.200 people out here do a homeschool where I'm at. Surprisingly, so I've started 111 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.720 a little group and we do all the get togethers and field trips and all 112 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:45.600 that stuff. That's amazing. Yeah, and that's that's I've said that before, 113 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.120 you know, finding like minded people in your community, that's really way 114 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.919 to start. Some of us get so wrapped up in federal politics, where 115 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.679 it's it's mostly theater and you cannot really make a difference. You know, 116 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.679 where you can make a difference is in your community and doing things like that. 117 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:07.720 That's really amazing to hear and challenging your child and saying, you know, 118 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.759 we don't have to do the same thing every single day. You can 119 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.799 be very creative. And with that being said, is there a certain curriculum 120 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:20.039 that you use and as a base and you work around it or do you 121 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.320 create all there? Okay, which one do you use? I use the 122 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:30.919 Good and the Beautiful. It is extremely vibrant and beautiful, and it's it's 123 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.080 kind of art based. There's a lot of art in it, and it's 124 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:43.879 very it is it is I guess religious in a way like that. It's 125 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:48.200 very light on the religion, but there is talk of God and our Creator 126 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.159 and things like that in there, and so I like that about it. 127 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.960 But it's just almost game based. So the kids love it. It's just 128 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.080 really pretty to look at. It's full of shrills. It's you know, 129 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.759 like it's not for everyone. It's it's really pretty and fun and there's a 130 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.399 lot of art to it and things like that, and so I use that 131 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:07.919 for math and language arts and then for the rest of it. My daughter 132 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:13.360 actually we have a place out here that's kind of an all up art school 133 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.679 and it's also Christian. You can kind of pick and choose the classes they 134 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.960 offer everything, and it's like a whole school campus. And she picked an 135 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.960 art class and a science class to go to there, and the science one 136 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:33.679 it's more chemistry, like baking chemistry, food type science. So she goes 137 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.559 there twice a week for an hour at a time, and we stay. 138 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.200 They let you sit in if you want, They let you bring your other 139 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.399 kids to watch, or where they have playgrounds to bring my other kids too. 140 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.279 It's really ideal. Actually, that's great, So you're kind of getting 141 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:52.279 the best of both worlds. And I found the Good and the Beautiful website. 142 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.080 They have free courses for math and language, arts, they have preschool, 143 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:58.039 so I will put the link in the show notes and it's got an 144 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:03.720 introductory video for those who are interested. You can check that out. Another 145 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.960 great reason I love when people kind of share, you know, what they 146 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.039 use to lives to educate their children, because once again, there's not one 147 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.759 magical elixir that works for everyone. And this looks, you know, very 148 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:22.080 interactive. Yeah, it really is. And what's nice about it if you're 149 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:28.000 a new homeschool mom who's very nervous about teaching everything. It's very open and 150 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.159 go and simple for parents. It doesn't have a big teacher's guide. It's 151 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.159 everything is open and go. It's on the page where you teach. A 152 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.320 child just says read this to them, and then they do this, read 153 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.879 this, they do this. So it's it's very easy to get started with 154 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:46.600 it, and I think it's better for younger kids. They do go up 155 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.960 to higher ages, but I think the younger kids just really like it the 156 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:58.639 best. We're My oldest is only in second grade right now, so we've 157 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.120 used for all of them so far, and that's great. And the other 158 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.240 thing is, again we take home school a year at a time. We're 159 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.639 always like, let's see where the world is, you know, in May, 160 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:15.519 and we'll decide for the next year. And it's not still not really 161 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.879 in a great place, but this certainly looks like something for younger students to 162 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.240 try, so again, that link will be in the website. You had 163 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:31.399 mentioned that again that twenty twenty was a big part of I'm assuming You're awakening 164 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.240 like so many people, could you kind of talk about what it was like 165 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.000 from your perspective when all this kicked off, and how did it affect your 166 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:43.639 life? Obviously the homeschool aspect it brought about that, but what other things 167 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:50.879 did it kind of affect? Sure, well, I was pregnant and having 168 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.120 a newborn in March twenty twenty, so that's where I was. I had 169 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.879 two toddlers and I was having a newborn. He's actually on March second, 170 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.639 twenty twenty, and at that point we had heard about the whole COVID things 171 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.159 starting up and going around, and nobody really knew what was going on yet, 172 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.360 and they hadn't brought out like masks and everything yet. So I got 173 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.039 kind of lucky because when I had him, like my husband had come with 174 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.759 me to all the appointments. I was actually with a group of midwives, 175 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:26.440 though I've had all of them, like natural with midwives, but he was 176 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.759 allowed to come to everything, and he was allowed to be there, and 177 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:33.559 I had visitors after I had him and all that stuff. And then I 178 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:39.240 think it was eleven days later when everything went on lockdown, or maybe it 179 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.080 was even just a week later we brought him home, and it was just, 180 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:48.080 you know, within a week or two when everything just went on lockdown 181 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.840 and everything went crazy and we were just like, what is going on? 182 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:58.200 And I was nervous for about I would say, a couple of weeks, 183 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.080 you know, like I didn't know what was happening. I wasn't well versed 184 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.960 in all this stuff yet, I wasn't suspicious of anything. I didn't care 185 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:11.360 about politics. I was just kind of whatever about all of that stuff, 186 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:18.639 you know. So I was nervous for about two weeks maybe, and then 187 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.360 it got to be I think April ish, like around Easter that year, 188 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:30.279 and my husband's parents live here where in town where we live, and they 189 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:35.960 have a bunch of grandkids here, and for Easter we usually have a big 190 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.519 thing at their house, and nobody would let them come over, and I 191 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:45.159 remember we were just kind of like, really, why, Like we just 192 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.120 kind of you know, and they were all taking it extremely serious to me, 193 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:54.960 and I felt really bad for my in laws because they went around driving 194 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.000 all over town to everybody's house drop off Easter baskets to the kids and stuff. 195 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:01.159 And then when they got to our house, you know, they hadn't 196 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.960 seen the baby yet, and because no one was going anywhere, everyone was 197 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.720 on lockdown, just trying to get toilet paper or whatever, and so they 198 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:15.960 came over and I remember them just being outside at the screen door and saying, 199 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.480 did we will bear? Like they really wanted to see him, you 200 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.320 know, And at that point something in me just was like, no, 201 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:26.320 come in here and hold him. We're not scared of you. It's fine. 202 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.919 You can come hold the baby, you know. And I just felt 203 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:37.240 so bad for them that that nobody else would. And then the first thing 204 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.879 that happened to kind of make me wonder and change my mind about everything also 205 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:48.240 is my husband actually found a he was watching something and I could hear it 206 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.080 and I said, is that about what's going on right now? And he 207 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.559 said yeah, and he sent it to me and it was this doctor talking 208 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.360 about how, you know, this is ridiculous. We shouldn't be masking, 209 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.120 we shouldn't be suppressing our immune systems and staying locked inside. And what's going 210 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:07.120 to happen is in about November, everyone's going to show up super sick to 211 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.639 the hospitals, you know, because we suppressed our armune sist I don't know. 212 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.720 He was saying all this stuff, and then I remember I I was 213 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.080 like, that makes a lot of sense. And he was a doctor and 214 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:21.200 everyone was saying, trust the doctors, trust the experts, you know. 215 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.679 And I sent that link off to like my sister in law or somebody, 216 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.440 and I remember she was just like, oh, that guy's been debunked. 217 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:32.200 He's been debunked. And I'm like, well, what does that mean. 218 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.279 He's a doctor, he's telling his opinions. How do you debunk that, 219 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:41.919 you know? And it was just crazy how I'm like, well, listen 220 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.759 to what doctors like, only doctor Fauci or like, because there's other doctors 221 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:51.720 coming out saying we shouldn't be acting this way. You know. It was 222 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:56.919 just very interesting, the whole dynamic, and it just became very apparent, 223 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:02.639 very quickly that you kind of had to pick a side. Yep, everything 224 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.000 stand up for what you thought. It seems like everything, whether it be 225 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:11.680 politics or COVID or flat or globe, it's always divide and conquer. And 226 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.960 that was one of the most divisive. Obviously they had the Summer of course 227 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.119 that became very divisive, the Summer of Love in twenty twenty, and then 228 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.160 the election you were either Trump or Biden. So I think that entire year 229 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.680 was all about divide and conquer and to fracture families. Which it did a 230 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.799 lot of people like you were saying, you know, people getting guilted. 231 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.519 If you don't get a vaccine, you're going to kill grandma and all this 232 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:41.279 type of nonsense. That's that's kind of what was happening with our in laws 233 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.599 here, Like our side of the family is really unfortunate. It kind of 234 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:49.440 caused a lot of issues between everybody for a while. And what it also 235 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:55.400 did was my kids entire world change, Like we're very out and about people. 236 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.200 They were going to a little gymnastics, open gym place, they were 237 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.599 going to storytime at the library every week. We were out and about just 238 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:04.079 doing all this stuff, and all of that just came to a halt. 239 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.039 Just all of it came to an end. They were also seeing all their 240 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.519 cousins all the time, and they were crying wondering why they couldn't see grandma 241 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:15.920 and cousins. And it was just like, really, it made me angry 242 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:22.000 how much it changed my kids worlds. And then I got involved in finding 243 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:26.799 out more. Now explain number one, I completely I see it, and 244 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.200 how still did this day. I always say, when they do these type 245 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.640 of events, it's one step forward, two steps back, Like you know, 246 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.519 there's still did this day. A lot of people who keep that in 247 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.920 the back of their mind, Like tomorrow here we're getting a little bit of 248 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.400 snow, so they're like, all right, we're just going to do zoom 249 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.839 tomorrow. Everybody stay home, We're just going to do zoom. Prior to 250 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.680 twenty twenty that you have never would have even heard that, So they have 251 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:59.680 normalized this type of life going forward. Definitely. My husband at the time, 252 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.240 he was always working in an office somewhere and they sent him to work 253 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.160 from home when I had the baby for like well, actually they gave him 254 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:11.319 a few weeks off for that and he never went back. They just put 255 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.039 everyone to home and he's still at home. It's just crazy. Yeah, 256 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.720 we have family members the same way. Used to travel every week around the 257 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:23.359 country and now it just have a home office and every once in a great 258 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:27.319 while and fly off to do whatever to handle business. But it has just 259 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:33.480 changed our world completely and it really has taken away of that personal aspect to 260 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:40.079 people's lives. Yeah, definitely, Now you said it really changed you. 261 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:44.440 Did you really get deep into the research of COVID and vaccines and these type 262 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:49.640 of things. Yes, And well with that, scenes It started a little 263 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:56.079 earlier. My daughter, my first daughter. We took her to vaccinate her 264 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.720 until she was about eighteen months, and she had a reaction, actually, 265 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:10.680 and so with that then I stopped with my younger one. They're only sixteen 266 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:15.079 months apart. So my middle daughter had had a few, just a few 267 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:18.440 as a baby by the time we stopped with the older one, but she 268 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:25.279 passed out and had a seizure. So then I started looking. My oldest 269 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:30.119 one did and she was around eighteen months, and so I just I was 270 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:33.480 looking into it more then and just kind of paying attention more and being careful 271 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.480 about it. And so I quit with the younger one, and actually with 272 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.759 my middle one, I was already getting suspicious and seeing things that somebody I 273 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:47.319 knew was posting, and so I had delayed hers all spread out, so 274 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:51.759 she barely has any And then by the time my son came along, he 275 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:53.319 has nothing, Like I wouldn't then it was twenty twenty, and I just 276 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:59.200 wouldn't do it at all. So luckily he has nothing. And I'll tell 277 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.920 you what, he's by far my healthiest child. And if we get anything, 278 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.960 he either doesn't or his is the quickest to get over. It's amazing, 279 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.880 it's interesting. Yeah, I try to send people and listen, folks. 280 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.160 I'll put this link in the show notes as well, and this is 281 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.279 from the CDC. Well, what do you look at the vaccine schedule just 282 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.400 from birth to fifteen months and then you actually take to take the time to 283 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:30.119 research the adjunks that are in these vaccines? You know, hepatitis v RSV, 284 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:34.200 which I've gotten a lot of emails that have harmed children, wrote a 285 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:44.359 virus totherea. Of course, the newmencocle conjugate just polio. You know, 286 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.640 it's just between birth and eighteen months. It's a whole slew of them. 287 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.240 It's yes, and it's one of my biggest regrets now that I did that, 288 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:56.960 because you have to listen to intuition. I want people to like understand 289 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:02.680 this. When my first daughter was born and she was going to get those 290 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:03.880 first well, first of all, when they do it when they're like an 291 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.599 hour old, you know, they want to give them hepatitis shots, which 292 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:14.160 is you can't get that's sexually transmitted, you know, and she was two 293 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:17.319 months old or I know, she was like an hour old when they want 294 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.240 to do that one, and then they want to give them the vitamin kisha 295 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.960 and all this stuff. And when they first did that, you know, 296 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:25.920 I was new to everything. I hadn't looked into anything, and I just 297 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.960 handed her off, you know, and I remember just sobbing as they did 298 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.599 it, just thinking I don't like this, you know, And I was. 299 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.559 I was. I just given birth, I was full of four months, 300 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:38.759 but I was just a mess while they were doing it. And then 301 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.680 when it came time for her two month ones, which is when you start 302 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.680 going back in for them, I had an anxiety attack the night before. 303 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.599 I didn't want to do it and I didn't want to take her and I 304 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.119 actually had to have somebody come with me because my husband was working, and 305 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.559 I was just terrified that she was just going like I knew. I knew 306 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.000 deep down. I don't know if I had heard something or read something, 307 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:04.480 but something in me didn't want to do it. But you know, and 308 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:11.359 I remember asking family and friends and the doctor and the pediatrician, and I 309 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:12.720 remember asking them, is it really safe? Should I really do it? 310 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.559 I kind of don't want to do it, and everyone encouraged me to do 311 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:21.279 it, which is so unfortunate. You know, everyone was just brainwashed and 312 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:25.000 like, no, you have to, you have to, you know, 313 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:32.440 And so I did. And it's just it'll probably be my biggest regret, 314 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.599 you know, for sure because of that. But you know, that's what 315 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.799 we're taught, right, It's like everything else, that's what we're taught. 316 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:44.880 It's healthy, it's going to save your life. You know the famous picture 317 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.359 of Elvis Presley getting the polio shot in like nineteen fifty eight, you know 318 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:53.400 that was that the vaccination rates went from like and I'm spitballing here, I 319 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.839 don't remember the exact but it's something crazy like I think five percent of the 320 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:02.000 American population had a polio shot and then Elvis came on live TV and got 321 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.200 his and I think within thirty days, like eighty percent of the country had 322 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:10.119 their polio shot. So there's something to the infamous statement is once people see 323 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.359 it on TV, then they'll believe it. And two things we should mention 324 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:21.200 is that COVID nineteen is now already on the permanent vaccine schedule and is part 325 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:27.200 of the birth to eighteen month vaccine. Wow. And something else I think 326 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:33.359 you mentioned vitamin K right, Yes, there, I've people send me stories 327 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.039 and stuff all the time. There are possible links. And again, don't 328 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.640 listen to me. I'm not a doctor, folks, but there you go. 329 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.880 Yeah, the childhood look and that one. Surprisingly, I even was 330 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:51.319 asking the midwage, can I just you know, you can do oral drops 331 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:55.279 because the vitamin K they give is synthetic and it's like a way higher dosage 332 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.359 than you're supposed to have. It's way high. And so I had asked 333 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:03.559 her about them drops that are like natural ones, and even she, even 334 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.240 the midwife was who are usually a little more holistic, she was just like, 335 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.160 nope, that's the one I won't allow to get if you want to 336 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:18.000 be with me as a midwife. And so I don't know. That's interesting, 337 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.079 Yes, but I didn't with my son. I I didn't do anything 338 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.720 with him. But and you said he's the healthiest one. Huh. Yes, 339 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.559 it's it's like a glaring difference, honestly. And it's funny because it 340 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.000 goes from one to the other. Like my middle one, who's had only 341 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.000 a few she's the next healthiest one, and then my oldest is always the 342 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.559 first one in the family sick the longest. That it's hard to get rid 343 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.839 of the most problems, you know, health wise, so Carly, if 344 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.039 that's feel bad about it, Like, if that isn't exhibit A, B 345 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:53.240 and C for people to at least and again I'm not a doctor. I 346 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.599 never tell anybody to do anything, but if that at least doesn't tell you 347 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:02.960 to at least look into this deeper. And there are tons of resources out 348 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:07.160 there. If you can't find them yourselves, email me. I'll send you 349 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:08.680 all the links to the books. And again that's just one side of the 350 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.920 opinion. Everybody is responsible, you know, for their children to make their 351 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:18.319 own decisions. But I mean, I've just talked to hundreds and hundreds of 352 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:22.200 people who have gone through and you know what's really interesting, Carly, it's 353 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.319 not just people. I've had people email me who had other pets get certain 354 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:33.559 vaccines and have seizures and pass away from you know, from dogs who have 355 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.240 had these vaccines and their stories. Yeah, there's stories all over the internet 356 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.640 about it. So and again, people will tell you that they'll compare and 357 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.799 we'll start getting into this as well. They compare flat earthers to anti vaxxers. 358 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:52.319 So there's a whole psychological aspect to these things, right, I've heard 359 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:57.279 that it's real interesting, But Yeah, so that's really interesting. Why don't 360 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.400 we kind of work our way over to how did you come across? Were 361 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.880 you like looking through YouTube through covid and you came about a flat Earth video? 362 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.680 Or how did you find your way to flatter Earth? Well? Yes, 363 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:15.680 but the seed was kind of planted. In twenty sixteen. I had 364 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.759 a cousin that I reconnected with after I hadn't seen her since we were kids 365 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.599 kind of, and I found her on Facebook and we were kind of reconnecting 366 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:30.119 on there, and I noted she's very very into all this stuff, all 367 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.119 of it, flatterth everything, but she's very vocal about it. And so 368 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:40.640 she was just posting NonStop stuff about just everything, the moon landing, the 369 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.160 nine to eleven, like flat Earth, vaccines, all of it. And 370 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.559 this was back in twenty sixteen when I had just had my daughter. I 371 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.319 had my daughter already and I had already vaccinated her. So I was very 372 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:56.160 like, you know, defensive, and I was actually screenshotting stuff of her 373 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.119 and sending it to like my sister, leaving like look girl, she's crazy, 374 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.960 you know, and I'm like, look now he thinks thereth is flat 375 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:10.640 look this. So we were like, so we were just watching her posts 376 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.240 of that for a while, and then then she she posted something about flat 377 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.720 earth and I wish I couldn't remember what it was, but it was some 378 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.079 kind of meme with like something like if you believe that, then how about 379 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:29.480 this? Or there's some kind of people think this but you know, one 380 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:30.920 of those memes that kind of makes you think, right, like you, 381 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.680 how do you not see the connection between these two things? Yes? And 382 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.680 I kind of went, oh, well, yeah, that's a good question, 383 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:44.400 you know. And I remember I just probably just got on Google back 384 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.960 then. I didn't have any of the other search things, and I don't 385 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.720 know what I came upon. I don't remember, but I remember what I 386 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:57.640 saw surprise me, like, and I read I Then I spent like a 387 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:04.759 half an hour reading stuff and looking into it further. And it was actually 388 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:10.720 kind of irritating me that I couldn't refute what I was seeing, Like everything 389 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:15.039 was making sense to me that I was seeing and I was getting. I 390 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.319 was actually annoyed. I remember just kind of stutting the laptop and being like, 391 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.359 hey, I don't have time for this, Like I have a baby, 392 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.880 I'm not dealing with this rabbit hole right now. You know, and 393 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.400 I remember I just let it go, like I just shut the laptop and 394 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.799 I was like, the dumb I'm not looking into this anymore, Like it's 395 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.880 not flat, you know. Did you think that or was that your way 396 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.759 of saying, oh my gosh, I don't want to be associated with the 397 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.799 person I was screenshotting and send it to my sister. No. Yeah, 398 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.079 it was kind of like, well I can't. You know, we just 399 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.519 spent all this time making fun of her, right right right, And I 400 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.680 have to say I really like her and we were having fun chatting things, 401 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.240 but when it came to what she was posting, I was just very like 402 00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.319 ah ah, you know, I just wasn't there yet. And so when 403 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.599 then when I s I started looking into it and realized that what she was 404 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.799 saying and what I was looking up from it made sense. It was kind 405 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.759 of making me mad, you know. My initial reaction was just kind of 406 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.319 like whatever, yep, And so I just set the laptop and I was 407 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.839 done with it for until twenty twenty. And then in twenty twenty, when 408 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.599 I was just stuck at home with the newborn with everything closed, looking into 409 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:27.359 all this stuff, looking into all the COVID stuff and everything. Then I 410 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:33.000 did happen to follow some page on Instagram. I think it's eyes on the 411 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.720 Right, and she's got but the problem is she keeps getting shut down, 412 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.000 so she posts like eyes on the Right two point zero eyes on the Right. 413 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.839 So if you want to look her up, it might be hard because 414 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.720 she comes up with different like numbers at the end to kind of keep going 415 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.480 gotcha, shame makes me getting canceled, and she keeps great in a no 416 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:59.559 account. Yeah, but I think it was her account where I just started 417 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.559 following all these accounts who were more you know, right leaning, I guess, 418 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.440 or just doubting COVID and posting conspiracies type stuff about it, you know, 419 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:17.160 or we thought conspiracy. And so she posted something about the firmament and 420 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:22.880 the she was showing all these different images in Hollywood and movies and TV about 421 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:29.000 like the dome and how, oh this logo makes the dome and look how 422 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.880 this makes the dome. And it was about the dome and the firmament. 423 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.480 She's posted this whole Instagram reel with this long video, and I remember just 424 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.279 instantly remembering from before what I had looked at, and you know, I 425 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.039 had more time I was just like nursing all night, looking at my phone 426 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.359 and kind of being stuck at home, and I just started really looking into 427 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.920 it more then, and it just all makes sense. I just I feel 428 00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:01.440 like you can't research it deeply for more than five minutes and it's without understanding 429 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:07.319 it. To me, It's like it just all made sense to me. 430 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:12.400 It all started clicking and making sense. And I hadn't known before from the 431 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.559 other stuff. I saw that the whole Bible connection. And I was raised 432 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.279 pretty religious. I have a good understanding of the Bible in some ways, 433 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:27.240 and so I hadn't made that connection before about how you know, planets are 434 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.400 never even mentioned in the Bible and all this stuff and the firmament, how 435 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.920 it's all described. It all just clicked to me. And then I just 436 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.279 had a lot of fun researching it for a long time. That's such a 437 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.519 good story. And one thing I'll mention, excuse me, is that I 438 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.039 did find she's on four now, I was on the right four point. 439 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:52.279 Oh okay, she's got one hundred and thirty thousand followers. Yeah, I 440 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.799 think she's got a podcast too, and she she does delve into some stuff 441 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.440 that I'm like, I don't know, but it's she's pretty interesting to follow. 442 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.440 Yeah, she covers a lot of things I do on my other podcast, 443 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.680 Skull and Bones. And you know, I'm just looking here on the 444 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.119 cover the Leave the World Behind. How that has ball in the poster? 445 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.039 Interesting? Oh yeah, he does a lot about symbolism and numbers and yeah, 446 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.519 it's all out there for sure. I'll put that link in the show 447 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:23.519 notes. And then talking about uh, you know that the globe theory between 448 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:29.279 flat Earth, it's very simple. In philosophy, one of the things they 449 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.039 teach you is Acam's razor. I've mentioned this before, and that is simply 450 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.720 a problem solving deal. That just says searching for explanations that are constructed with 451 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:43.960 the smallest possible set of elements. And if you look at heliocentrism and the 452 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:49.680 axes and the spinning and the chasing the sun and everything else involved in it, 453 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.000 and then you look at biblical cosmology or flat Earth, then how simple 454 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:59.279 that is? So even for all the philosophers like Professor Dave and things like 455 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.160 that, who mac us just come back and say, Okay, well you 456 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.240 know Okham's raver. Okham's razor. I don't know I can never say that 457 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:12.679 it is the simplest rule. So but this all goes back to the brainwashing, 458 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:16.840 the scientism, the indoctrination, and the lack of critical thinking skills. 459 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:22.519 Just because you went to school for in some cases seventeen to twenty years with 460 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:30.119 secondary education, it just means that you were fed more brainwashing in the for 461 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.159 the most part. Now, of course, there are good schools, and 462 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:37.360 I'm sure there's you know, good education systems out there, but I find 463 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:44.800 that those people are the hardest nuts to crack. Yeah, definitely, you 464 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.239 know, and with that thing, I'm sorry, go ahead. I think 465 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.119 it can be a very hard feel to swallow, to realize you've been duped. 466 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.360 You know. Great point. I think that's what was going on with 467 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.199 me at the beginning when I first, you know, was trying to look 468 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:05.760 into it. But it's just how it is. I mean, you can 469 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.280 either you can either open your eyes or not. I don't think. I 470 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:13.719 don't try and post much about it at all. Actually, I don't try 471 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:15.519 and like change anyone's mind because I feel like you just have to come to 472 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:23.320 it. Yeah, it's it's interesting. I'll float a couple things out there. 473 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.719 When that one group I can't even think of the name now, the 474 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.400 famous hackers. They dropped a flat Earth YouTube video like two or three months 475 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:38.079 ago. I think I even posted it on the podcast. I floated it 476 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.800 out on my very private, very small Facebook channel. You know, if 477 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.920 I post a picture of my chickens, it'll get thirty likes. But I 478 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.599 put that video out there of like flat which was really well done, and 479 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.000 not one single person took the time to look at it. So again, 480 00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:00.840 you're right, they do have to be kind of willing to look at these 481 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.599 things. Otherwise you just you might as well be talking to the wall. 482 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.599 Yeah, that's true. All though, to be fair, I mean, 483 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.480 my cousin who was posting and posting, she got me, you know, 484 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:16.360 she got the seed planted. But sure, sure that's important. So I 485 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.800 guess it's good that some people are more vocal about it. And that's interesting. 486 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.480 It was like four years did you say it was twenty twenty when you 487 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:30.239 came back to flatter Yes, so that seed was planted back in twenty sixteen, 488 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.519 and it laid dormant for four years, and then because of them over 489 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.679 playing their hand, you said, well, I'm thinking internally, you probably 490 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.320 thought, well, if they can lie about this, what else could they 491 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.159 be lying about? And that's probably one of the reasons you were willing to 492 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:52.199 look into it exactly. I just felt like everything is weird, something's going 493 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.000 on, nothing is right, memore, Like, I kind of just got 494 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.960 wind of a lot of stuff. And I also came upon a documentaratoring that 495 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:07.440 time that was like about how movies hide symbolism and or they basically like show 496 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.519 you what they're doing, you know, but they make it as fiction, 497 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.239 but it's not really right. So that's the way of disclosing the truth. 498 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:22.280 Yeah, so I saw that documentary and I actually grew up in Hollywood. 499 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.599 I don't know if you want to know this part of my story, Yeah, 500 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.719 please, I'd love to hear that. It's interesting for me, this 501 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.519 whole thing, the whole Hollywood celebrity thing. That was the hardest for me 502 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.639 to let go of. It was, you know, as I came around 503 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.199 to everything I was. I grew up there in Hollywood in the midst of 504 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.559 like literally I saw the Hollywood Sign on my way to school every day. 505 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:52.360 I went to a very fancy private school with celebrities kids and children's celebrities and 506 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.519 just kids. You know, I remember getting made fun of once because I 507 00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:00.960 didn't have an agent and everyone else had an agent. So that's how it 508 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.480 was for me and I. You know, there's a lot of people that 509 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:09.400 everyone would know their name. I'm not gonna say names that I either went 510 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.039 to school with or their parents picked them up, you know, and I 511 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.800 saw them and they were ramous or things like that. And there's a lot 512 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:22.159 of people I know personally, like neighbors who were in things and things like 513 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:28.320 that from my upbringing. But what's interesting is I was raised pretty religious. 514 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.760 Also, my parents kind of kept me from it as much as they could, 515 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.079 but I because they kept me from it, I wanted it. So 516 00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:44.199 I grew up Hollywood obsessed, like through my through I've been kids basically, 517 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.719 like having kids kind of made me not care about anything else but my kids. 518 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.400 And then of course, you know, as twenty twenty year olled around, 519 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:58.280 but before that, I was pretty obsessed with Hollywood and celebrities. I 520 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.519 know some of them. There's some people I could that you everyone would know 521 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:07.039 that I was still in contact with, Like there's one in particular that I 522 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:13.320 was still in contact with and friends with, and so it's just an interesting 523 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.280 dynamic because it was it was hard for me to come around to that part 524 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:22.280 of it and let go of that part of it, which is interesting. 525 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.000 Yeah for sure. And I'd like to interject with this really quick. Did 526 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:31.719 you think that now I don't know the celebrities. I think that the the 527 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:37.119 the A listers, let's just say, like the Dicaprios and the top Hanks, 528 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.800 I think they are in on the things and maybe even part of the 529 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.559 CIA web, like actually part of the top tier of things. Oh yeah, 530 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:52.840 becose, Yeah for sure. And movies and TV have more. They're 531 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:58.639 meant to distract the old like the Roman Empire. Give them bread and circus 532 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:05.079 and they'll never revolt. But it is also to plant seeds in your head 533 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.840 as well, Like you had that seed planted in your head twenty sixteen. 534 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.800 Four years later you were able to look at it twenty twelve. They planted 535 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:15.920 that movie Contagion in our head and moles throughout history, and then when it 536 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:20.400 happened, we accepted it and very well down the road. You know, 537 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.599 we've had Star Trek, Star Wars, and Disney's always running these new spinoff 538 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:30.239 series Guardians at the Galaxy. There's going to be this project blue Beam type 539 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.840 of thing. I don't know how they're going to use it, but it's 540 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.760 just going to be another sign up that most people are going to accept because 541 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:43.239 they saw it on TV. Yeah, definitely, and especially when you mentioned 542 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.440 contagion. I remember seeing that, and that's how everyone acted. As soon 543 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.599 as COVID started. That's how everyone acted, as if the minute you get 544 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.880 it, you're going to die and people are dropping in the streets, and 545 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.840 when you really stop and just look, that's not what was happening. If 546 00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:02.159 it was a real pandemic, we would have seen you know, homeless people 547 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.880 dead everywhere and people find people in their homes everywhere, and it just wasn't 548 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.760 what they were saying. But that's how everyone panicked because everyone had seen that 549 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.039 movie. I'm sure. Yeah. It's just crazy how they can get into 550 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:21.760 people's heads. Yeah, for sure, The Walking Dead or Outbreak with Dustin 551 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:27.280 Hoffman, yes, or even regular TV episodes that would have an episode about 552 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:34.800 that particular thing. It's just this subconscious, you know, mind control that 553 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.159 they do through the television. And the one scene I'll never forget in that 554 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:43.679 movie is where the person who was like you know, Agent zero or whatever, 555 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.320 the original carrier takes a drink of this cup, you know, out 556 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.920 of his glass, maybe it's a whiskey or bourbon or something. He hands 557 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.119 it to the waitress. She takes it to the dishwasher, and like the 558 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.960 next day, everybody who touched that glass was dead. And that was like 559 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.719 next level propaganda that every time I go back to that, I'm like, 560 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:07.199 wow, they really laid it on thick. Yes, I totally remember thinking 561 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:13.360 of that theme too when all of this story is like, that's how scared 562 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.719 everyone was, But that was there, that was all planned out for sure, 563 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.800 Like, yeah, nobody knew at the time, But that's what that 564 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.760 documentary is about that I found. And once I found that, I just 565 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.599 went into more and more and more and more of them. So do you 566 00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:30.840 know if that documentary you saw was that the one with the stuntman that the 567 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.440 guy was a stuntman in Hollywood? Yes, I think so. It's called 568 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.679 Out of Shadows. Yes, that is so good, and it really the 569 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.760 thing that impressed me the most. That's when he showed all the local news, 570 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.639 like you know, all the little local news broadcasts from around the country. 571 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.320 We're literally reading off the same script. Whether it was Philly, Oregon, 572 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.719 Los Angeles, Miami. They were verbatim saying the same thing, and 573 00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:01.760 yes, yeah, crazy. And the thing is like I would send things 574 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.599 like that to people who were very just scared and just you know, hung 575 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.719 up on all this stuff, and then you would just blow it off every 576 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.639 time, and it's like, how can you keep doing that? Like, 577 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.039 I just don't understand once you open your eyes, I don't understand how people 578 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.239 can't. But I guess you just have to be in that place for yourself. 579 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:28.400 And that's why I quit trying. I just quit trying. But you 580 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.599 know, when we were in the throes of it and my kids were crying, 581 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:32.719 why is no cousins at my birthday party? You know, I was 582 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.880 trying to make people come around, and it's just not possible unless they want 583 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.920 to be Yeah, exactly. And I did find the link to that on 584 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.119 Rumble, so I'll put that in if you guys want to watch it. 585 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.920 And I think this is kind of tied in with the fall of the Cabal, 586 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.800 and I was really sad to hear that the woman behind that was that 587 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:57.239 one of the did you ever watch that documentary followed the Cabal? Yes, 588 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.320 I did. I don't know if I finished it. It's very hard now 589 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:06.159 with oh kids. The next thing. Bet, I do remember starting to 590 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.480 watch it and trying to watch it. I don't remember how deep I got 591 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.480 into it. Yeah, she was Clinton. Last month she committed suicide. 592 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.719 They found her body on I think Christmas Eve. The woman who voiced that 593 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.360 interesting stuff, where are you? Where's the rest of your family? Uh? 594 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.880 With you? Like? Obviously it sounds like most of the families on 595 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.119 board with the vaccines, But how about flat earth? And have you had 596 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.440 any luck sharing that with other people and getting them to actually look into it? 597 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:45.360 No? Well, not the family that I've been talking about after you 598 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.679 know, after the whole COVID situation. I don't try anymore with the I'm 599 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.000 not going to mention anything to them, and they would completely pair me apart 600 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:59.440 for that. Some of them are teachers. One of them, one family 601 00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:04.599 member particular, dressed his kid up for Halloween as a flat earther to make 602 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:09.960 fun, like with a tinfoil hat, a shirt that said flat Earth, 603 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:15.400 and like a bathrobe and slippers. I don't know, and that was a 604 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.760 flat earth costume. I guess apparently that's what we all look like and so 605 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.360 I just wouldn't even without even knowing about me or anything, he did. 606 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:28.079 They're just very like to make fun of things like that, and they're very 607 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:37.079 like science you know, minded, and if you know what I mean. 608 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.320 So with them, I'm not even gonna try. However, I mentioned it 609 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:45.440 to my own mom, who's very more open to that, and she was 610 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.320 just kind of like, oh, I guess I never realized because he's very 611 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:54.159 into the Bible, you know, and she had never really like studied the 612 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.320 wording in Genesis that much, and how you know that you know everything about 613 00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:00.920 the earth and the firm and all that stuff, and how there's no mention 614 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.599 of planets, and she she said she would look into it, and she's 615 00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:10.639 actually sent me back a few things to look into, but she's not she's 616 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.159 you know, up there in age, and I'm not gonna, you know, 617 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:21.239 I'm not out to like really change anyone's mind right now with it. 618 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:25.679 I've mentioned it to my husband. He's kind of on board with like looking 619 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:29.039 at things I sent him, and he is kind of like, huh, 620 00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.679 interesting, you know, so he's getting there. But he's very very open 621 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.840 and patient with me about like looking into things like that, and he would 622 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:44.440 never call me crazy or anything like that. So we'll see where that leads. 623 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.639 And then you know, I've mentioned it to a really good friend who's 624 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:54.840 very open about having conversations about these things. But I have never really found 625 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.880 anyone that has like changed their mind because of me talking about it or anything. 626 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.400 I have a neighbor who I'm very suspicious about, and he moved in 627 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.360 and came him over and had a big conversation with us, and we got 628 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:15.679 into so many topics about just you know, all this deep stuff, and 629 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:21.159 he mentioned so much stuff I would have never thought that, you know, 630 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.320 stuff like from your podcast for example, that people talk about. And it 631 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.440 was on the tip of my tongue to ask him about that one like flatterth 632 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.400 and I just couldn't do it. Like I'm just a little nervous still to 633 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.480 like bring it up, because I feel like that's the biggest one that gets 634 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:40.400 people, like it gets people thinking people are crazy or whatever. Yeah, 635 00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:45.320 again, most people have no problem having a conversation at the water cooler about 636 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.079 flatter or not flatter the moon landing and JFKA, like that's completely acceptable. 637 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.400 And the fact that people can't, like you said, can't connect the dots 638 00:47:54.440 --> 00:48:00.440 between a fake moon landing and flat earth is and again, like we all 639 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:06.280 remember, we were that guy at some point. But it's just funny because 640 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.440 the answer most people get was, even if they did fag it, it 641 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:13.440 was because of the Cold War, we had to beat Russia and it was 642 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.000 all for the good of the United States. But in fact it was really, 643 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:22.960 excuse me, just a diversion from Vietnam. And they obviously, with 644 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.960 high jumping everything else, they found the firmament and they knew the truth that 645 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.519 they had to deceive, and that was their way of doing it. And 646 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:38.320 again, NASA is such a deep pocket. One of our listeners sent me 647 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:43.679 and apologized for not having your name. I read it today that by twenty 648 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:49.920 thirty they're going to crash the ISS into the ocean and build a new one. 649 00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:52.119 And there's a contract out for the new builder. I think it was 650 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.199 three hundred and fifty. I don't want to say if it was million or 651 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:02.199 billion dollars. But it's just another way to enrich the folks at the top 652 00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:07.760 of the food chain. Right. One of my relatives that I was mentioning 653 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:12.840 works for them. So I just can't even I'm not going there with them. 654 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.440 You know. Yeah, I get people all the time, you know, 655 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.159 my uncle, my cousin worked at NASA. But they understood, they 656 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:24.679 had conversations with them, and it's just very much compartmentalized. They weren't they 657 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.800 weren't anywhere near a space shuttle or anything like that. They just had their 658 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.280 own little thing, just like I was in the Army. I had my 659 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.760 little tiny thing that I did for the army, but I was nowhere near 660 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.199 the top of the food chain. And that's the way it is the military. 661 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:42.960 That's the way it is at NASA. Right, Yeah, yeah, 662 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.639 that makes sense. I don't think all of the people who work for them 663 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.000 do know everything. Oh no, there's very few people. And by the 664 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.239 way, it was one hundred and fifty billion with a B billion dollars to 665 00:49:54.239 --> 00:50:00.000 build them space station, and then of course there's maintenance and everything else. 666 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.639 And of course I think that was also part of the Challenger. Right, 667 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.920 how dare you question that? You know how much one of these O rings? 668 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.719 Remember it was the O Ring that was involved in the Challenger. That 669 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:14.199 was an issue in the O Ring, So how dare you question this? 670 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:19.079 Seven hundred and twenty six dollars bolt, because don't you remember what happened to 671 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.000 the over You could kill the astronauts, So of course none of the comptrollers 672 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:27.119 are going to say anything m hmm to all the astroats that are still alive 673 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:32.280 with the same names right from the Challenger. That's the first thing I remember 674 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:36.679 seeing on TV as like a big news story as a kid, The Challenger. 675 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.800 But that was a big deal. Yeah. Some one of our regular 676 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.880 listeners that I chat back and forth with thought, I think it might have 677 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.000 been David from Alaska. He had mentioned, what what if it was actually 678 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.679 an accident, Like, obviously maybe there wasn't the astronauts on there, but 679 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.639 what if it was really an accident? And I thought about, asaka, 680 00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:01.519 that's interesting. But then I thought, if it was just another launch, 681 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:09.920 I don't think they would have put TVs in every single schoolroom across the country. 682 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.599 And the fact that they chose a teacher who had barely been a teacher 683 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.679 for a year out of the eleven thousand applicant at least they say there was 684 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:23.079 eleven thousand applicants, someone who just became a teacher. The whole thing was 685 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:31.719 just, once again a story, a narrative to psychologically brainwash us into believing 686 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.360 a certain way, right, how dare you question NASA? You know, 687 00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.159 you're disgracing those patriots that died back in nineteen eighty six on the Challenger. 688 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:45.920 And that's whether it's nine to eleven or certain events that took place in Connecticut 689 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:51.320 in twenty twelve, it's all how dare you question that? And that's why 690 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.639 going all the way back full circle to your friends who dressed up as a 691 00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:00.400 crazy flat earther, that is exactly the end result that the people at the 692 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:07.239 top of the food chain want to happen. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 693 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:14.480 And it's it's hard for me to even know what to teach my kids now. 694 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:20.480 I've kind of been avoiding that whole subject, like of space and Earth 695 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:25.639 and everything when it comes to teaching because there's no I've thought about, like 696 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.239 writing my own curriculum, but I don't know enough yet. And also everything 697 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.440 gets banned, even on Etsy, you can't even I've heard of people trying 698 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.679 to put out things like that and it just gets it gets removed. Really, 699 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.960 I wish I could learn more and just write my own curriculum, but 700 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.119 it's hard for me to even know what to teach them at this point, 701 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:53.440 like it's it's just hard because I don't want them to be the kids that 702 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:59.760 go out and say something and they get bullied for it or right, you 703 00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:01.880 know, I don't know. It's just interesting. And even in that curriculum 704 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:07.000 I told you about the beginning, the faith based one that we're using. 705 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:12.239 Just yesterday she was doing something where, you know, she's in second grade, 706 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.000 so it was having her write down words with oh oh, and it 707 00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.840 was giving her little clues like you know, you know, I'm white and 708 00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:22.599 hard and in your mouth and it was tooth, you know. And then 709 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:28.280 there was another one and it was like I am around, I'm in the 710 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.760 sky at night, you can see me, you can't see me good in 711 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:35.039 the day. And then the last clue was a man has walked on me. 712 00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.199 Oh no. She was so confused because I haven't delved into any of 713 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.119 that. She's, well, I think it should be mooned, but you 714 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.480 can't walk in the moon. Nobody's ever walked in the moon. You know, 715 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.679 I've already got like the weird homes COVI that like they're gonna question everything. 716 00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:54.519 But she she was like, that doesn't make any sense. Nobody's walked 717 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.000 on the Moon, because like, haven't even gone into any of that. 718 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.679 And I was like, well, some people think that astronaut has that astronauts 719 00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:04.920 have gone up there. I don't believe that's true. Do what do you 720 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.960 think do you think that can happen? She's like no, Like, yeah, 721 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.960 I don't think so either. So it's just kind of hard to even 722 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:19.079 know how to teach them at this point with it's in everything, it's it's 723 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.480 in everything. I went to a used bookstore for them the other day to 724 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.760 look through you are we going to do a unit on like insects and bugs? 725 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.559 And I opened this book about bugs. It was this really cool looking 726 00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:34.599 book and the first page started with evolution and it had all this stuff about 727 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.000 fossils and bugs and I'm just like, oh, like, I just don't 728 00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:45.039 even know how to approach this. Sometimes as they get older, yeah, 729 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.679 and that therein lies that the big question is, you know, and again 730 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:52.719 we're broaching that as my daughter, you know, gets to high school age, 731 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.480 do we send her to high school just to spend the end of every 732 00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:00.559 week going through what she learned and saying, well, this is a lie. 733 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.159 This is a lie. And not only that, but all the other 734 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.920 kind of things that are being pushed into the school system, you know, 735 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:15.800 and different schools in different areas of the countries have it worse. Where we're 736 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:17.840 at in a rural area, we don't really have to deal with the I 737 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.639 can go through the drive through and say yes ma'am or no sir and not 738 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:28.280 worry about yet being illed at for being misgendered. But you know, things 739 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.920 of that nature that's being infiltrated into the school systems. And again that all 740 00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:36.159 goes back to you know, what's best for you and your child and where 741 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.079 you are at the world. And but for us, what we've been doing 742 00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:44.400 is kind of saying, this is what they teach, right, man landed 743 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:47.559 on the moon July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine, blah blah blah, And 744 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.119 then we say, here's what we believe. We'll talk to her about it 745 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.039 and then maybe throwing a flat Earth day video or something and let her watch 746 00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:59.960 that. And our daughter's kind of in the same shoes as your daughters. 747 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:00.760 It is like, yeah, it doesn't really make a lot of sense, 748 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.480 and how could they do it fifty years ago? But we can't do it 749 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.519 now, you know, Back in nineteen sixty nine. There's a very famous 750 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:14.440 video what will Life be Like in the year two thousand and It was flying 751 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.280 cars and everything else, and then at the end of it they show a 752 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.719 video like do not eat this wrapper, caution coffee is hot, just like 753 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:25.480 how dumb our society it has gotten. It's actually pretty funny. That is 754 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:29.400 funny. Yeah, I guess that's all I'll have to do. It is 755 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.280 just tell here what is out there and then say what do we think about 756 00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:42.519 this? And because I can't, I can't in good faith just teach her 757 00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:50.119 what you know, like basically, why about everything? Now that I know, 758 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:54.400 it's just hard to figure that part out. I've just been avoiding it. 759 00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.880 Yeah, it is is It is hard to say, like, you 760 00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.719 know, they actually believe this, you know, Jim Carrey when he's at 761 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:08.639 the diner when we laid it on the moon. Awesome yet yep. But 762 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:14.000 again, unfortunately, most of our history books are at best a little bit 763 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.559 of truth sprinkled with lies. And really it only takes about ten percent of 764 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.880 the story to be infiltrated for it to really send people in the wrong direction. 765 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.920 It doesn't even have to be a complete lie, right, that's true. 766 00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.679 This has been awesome. Was there any bullet points or anything that you 767 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:36.800 wanted to talk about that we haven't mentioned yet. I'm trying to think. 768 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:44.719 I'm sure there is, but I'm I'm having trouble coming up with them on 769 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.760 the spot. What was there other rabbit holes that you have gone down that 770 00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:51.119 you find interesting? Obviously flat earth is a big one for you, and 771 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.119 you've done a lot of research on vaccine. Whether there any other things that 772 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:59.960 you've really found interesting and been spending a lot of time looking into. Yeah, 773 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:06.719 like the nephelin, the giants, that kind of thing, and how 774 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.840 you know, all this beautiful architecture we've had couldn't possibly be you know, 775 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:14.880 in the year that it was built, look as ornate as it was, 776 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.559 Like stuff like that. Do you know about those things yet? So there's 777 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.239 people ride around on horse and buggies, Yet there's buildings that are built so 778 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:28.920 perfectly well that we probably couldn't even replicate today with the technology we have exactly. 779 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.559 Things like that are interesting to me. Yeah, it's it's very interesting. 780 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:35.000 There's a lot of people out there who do a good job. John 781 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.039 Levi on YouTube My Lunch Break does a good job. Is there any other 782 00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:44.000 resources that you use to research that. No, you know, basically, 783 00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.880 I follow a lot of just social media pages that post things about it, 784 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:53.920 like that Instagram when I told you about in similar ones like that. And 785 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:58.039 then I have I do have one friend who is on board with all of 786 00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.199 this stuff in another state. She sends me a lot of links, but 787 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:07.679 I couldn't like tell you exact ones right now, but we have fun kind 788 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:09.599 of sending each other the deep stuff like that, like the rabbit hole stuff. 789 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:14.519 For sure, it's good to have somebody to bounce that stuff off of 790 00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.039 because there's a lot of people out there who don't really have anybody to have 791 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:22.360 this kind of conversation with. Yeah, that's true. And then of course, 792 00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.800 you know all the nine to eleven stuff and the moon landing and all 793 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:30.199 that normal stuff that we you know, that's on every podcast you have. 794 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.280 Basically, I'm you know, I've looked into all of those. Two. 795 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:43.480 Yeah, there's just I'm trying to think of what else. I don't know 796 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.519 as far as the moon landing goes. Was there one thing that you're like 797 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.079 an aha moment when you were looking through the evidence or watching a podcast or 798 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.920 the Van Allen belt, Oh, Okay, there you go. That's something. 799 00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.480 Yeah. Just and again, this is what they're saying. When you 800 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:05.000 look at the boiling points of I think aluminum and what the the vessel was 801 01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.559 made out of, it should have melted. It shouldn't even made it a 802 01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:13.079 quarter of way through there. And that's according to their science. Yes. 803 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.880 And I actually feel like if you just look at it, like if you 804 01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:20.400 look at there, the thing they built, my second grader could have built 805 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:22.639 that, Like I mean, you just all you have to do is look 806 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.559 at it. It's silly. It looks like lawn chairs and Christmas ornaments with 807 01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:32.480 duct tape. Yeah, that's not gonna Yes. And I love how before 808 01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:37.000 cell phones, like you know, we were calling the moon from a landline. 809 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:42.480 That's that is find hilarious to me because I've said this before. When 810 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.679 my dad was my dad was in the National Guards and he went to Germany 811 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:50.000 in like nineteen I'm guessing here eighty four, and I remember talking it to 812 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.079 him on the phone just from here to Germany and there was like a two 813 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:57.639 second delay like hey Dad and be delay Hey yeah, you do you know, 814 01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:00.400 and you could kind of hear the echo back and forth. It's just 815 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:07.440 absurd to think that nineteen sixty nine that happened, right, And even now 816 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:14.360 the images that they're sending from air quotes Mars is that's a joke in itself 817 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.480 as well. And if you look at how far Mars is away? How 818 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.800 far is Mars from Earth? I can never remember, but it's it's insane, 819 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.519 like it's one hundred and forty million miles according to them. Yeah, 820 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.000 all right, these distances are ridiculous. I cannot handle the distances they give 821 01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:36.119 us. If somebody would actually sit down and try to understand how far that 822 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.039 is. And like if I, like, I'll forget to turn off my 823 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.519 Wi Fi on my phone when I'm driving out in my truck and I'm listening 824 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.559 to something and because of the transfer from Wi Fi to Blue Wi Fi to 825 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:52.760 you know, five G or whatever, it'll pause and I'm like, you 826 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.719 know, fifty feet from my house, and but they have technology that can 827 01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.960 just reach one hundred and forty million miles. Just sit down and think about 828 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.960 that. Come on, really, I know, when you really think about 829 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:09.280 it like that, it just it just feels silly, like fortuny silly. 830 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:14.199 It just doesn't seem real. Now somebody's going to email me, how could 831 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.239 you compare your Wi Fi to that's this technology you get right, white folks, 832 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.280 come on. One hundred and forty million miles is ridiculous. And then 833 01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:25.360 if your people explain away the phone thing like it was radio they're using radio 834 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:30.360 weights or whatever. But okay, yep, it's absurd even from them two 835 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.920 hundred and thirty nine thousand miles when I'm in the mountains. You know, 836 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:39.199 I'm not going to stop making uh keep yeah, typically that's dumb. It's 837 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.000 because of this or that. Anyway, it's just absurd to me, It 838 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:50.639 truly is. What was the other question I had for you? Darn it? 839 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.119 I just had a question on the tip of my tongue, and it's 840 01:02:52.639 --> 01:03:00.440 uh, it's slipped my mind egg on it anyway, the moon landing. 841 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:05.559 But there was one other thing I had up. No, I guess not. 842 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.519 I'm sorry about that. That's okay. The other one I've been looking 843 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:13.239 into is the whole Pem trails. Oh, that's a big one. I 844 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:17.159 just did a call episodes on that recently. Yes, I don't know if 845 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:23.039 it's the same everywhere. We are getting hit hard with them here. I 846 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:29.000 don't know why or what if it's the same everywhere, but you know it'll 847 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.320 be we have really nice weather right here where we are now, this is 848 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:35.920 like our nice weather, and you know, you try and get the kids 849 01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.159 outside every day, you know, get them outside more when the weather's nice 850 01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:43.000 and not so hot and everything, and we'll walk outside and it'll just be 851 01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.800 like tic tac toe crossing the skies everywhere, and it's just like I almost 852 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:51.440 want to bring them back in. It's just so frustrating that they really started 853 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.679 spraying us hard prior to Christmas and everybody started getting this cough. It was 854 01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.360 like a ten day cough. My wife couldn't shit. We thought it, 855 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:02.039 Yeah, it's crazy. And that's the disheartening thing. You know, look 856 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.280 at me. I'm out here at homestead and grown my own food. But 857 01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:10.679 if they're dropping barium and aluminum on my soil, yeah, what good is 858 01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:13.800 it? Now? Granted, we have a greenhouse, which even we're still 859 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:15.880 we're blessed, we're still pulling lettuce and radishes and stuff out of it. 860 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.960 But outside of that, you know, and our chickens and our eggs and 861 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:25.320 everything else, it's just disheartening to know that people are and that's not even 862 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:30.079 a fringe conspiracy theory anymore. I believe that whole heartedly, that they're spraying 863 01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.400 us. What about yourself, Oh yeah, I think so too, And 864 01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:40.599 I've actually heard it more too, like it's not a fringe thing anymore, 865 01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:45.840 like you said. But it is really frustrating, and it's like, I 866 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:47.440 don't even know if we should be outside when I see it like that. 867 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:53.880 I've taken a couple of pictures. It's just crazy how much it is sometimes 868 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:58.000 here. And I remember growing up in the seventies and the eighties and the 869 01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:01.639 blue skies and the clouds, and it's just that the sky itself is not 870 01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.159 even the close to what it used to be. And of course Al Gore 871 01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:09.199 and his friends will tell you and the World Economic Forum that it's because of 872 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:14.519 cow's farting and your gasoline engine and everything else. But the fact is is 873 01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:20.400 they are using geo engineering to alter and I think the weather, Yeah, 874 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:25.119 the weather. I think they have a way. I think they figured out 875 01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:29.880 how to use earthquakes as a weapon. I'm still kind of researching that. 876 01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.480 But they've been cloud seating and everything else since they were doing it in England 877 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:39.079 in the fifties, and we were doing it in Vietnam in the sixties with 878 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:44.199 Operation Popeye, we were cloud seating and they were pouring on these dirt roads 879 01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:49.320 in Vietnam to try to keep the Northern Vietnamese from coming down and attacking us, 880 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:53.599 and it would flood the roads out. And this is something and if 881 01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:56.679 you think about that, that technology, it's been sixty years, so imagine 882 01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:01.599 what they're able to do now. It's interesting because when I was a kid, 883 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:05.199 I remember looking up and seeing the little slains go by with the white 884 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:10.519 you know, behind them, and I remember when you would watch it, 885 01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:14.400 they would disappear as quickly as you saw it, and that I believe is 886 01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:20.639 condensation, like people will tell you it's And now they don't disappear, so 887 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:27.440 it's something different for sure. And I do remember looking at the clouds as 888 01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:30.880 a kid and just fluffy white clouds that look like shapes, and you try 889 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.039 and find the shapes, and there's none of that anymore, Like I never 890 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:39.039 see that anymore. And just the color of the blue sky, that deep 891 01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:43.159 blue is just not there anymore. Yeah. Interesting. I know. The 892 01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.079 question I wanted to ask you before we go was kind of your silver bullets 893 01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:51.320 for flat Earth. So if you did have the opportunity to give people some 894 01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:55.800 examples that you think they could easily go and look for themselves. What are 895 01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:00.360 kind of your your silver bullets of flatter earth? Oh well, my biggest 896 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:06.159 thing is like water doesn't bend? Is that the kind of thing you mean 897 01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:12.719 kind of convinced somebody. I just the whole water thing, like not, 898 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.719 it's a container and it doesn't. It doesn't like bend to a ball. 899 01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:26.079 It's gonna That's a big one for me. And then you don't think a 900 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:35.280 water can stick to a ball? No, not really. Also not if 901 01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:38.800 you're spinning it out of control a million miles an hour. No, it's 902 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:42.559 not gonna stick there, right, it would fly off. Yes. And 903 01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:46.320 then also if you look at the moon, it's the same all the time. 904 01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:49.400 If we're completely rotating it all the time, Like, wouldn't we see 905 01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:54.880 other angles of it? You would think. So that's one of the things 906 01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:00.599 I think about. The stars always look the same. I mean, I 907 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:04.519 don't know. I'm not like that good at this yet where I feel like 908 01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:12.679 I could convince somebody sure easily. And I have trouble remembering all the facts 909 01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.039 I've seen and watched and listened to and stuff like that when I need to 910 01:08:15.279 --> 01:08:19.439 when I need to say them, because I'm just full of like other stuff 911 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:24.640 in my head that I have to be doing all the time. So I 912 01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.319 don't know if I'm not good at coming up with that stuff, but those 913 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.640 are the things I think about. But even so, in this day and 914 01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:32.880 age, it's easy just you can copy and paste to link to something and 915 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:38.680 send it to someone and that's just as effective. Yeah, there's a lot 916 01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.520 of good ones out there. Even I know a lot of people don't like 917 01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:44.319 TikTok, but I feel like there's a lot of truth on there and I 918 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.520 actually wonder if that's why they were trying to ban it before, because I 919 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:53.359 feel like stuff doesn't get deleted or you know, censored on there as much 920 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:57.039 as it does on other platforms. And I've actually found a lot on there 921 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:01.600 about this that has been eye opening and interesting. Yeah, you're not the 922 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.720 first person to say that because the US government can't control it, that's why 923 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.479 they want to get rid of it. And there is a lot of truth 924 01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:13.159 on there. And you know, the fittest Flat Earth or Tyler who is 925 01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.880 his via has exploded it the one he did on Biden the other day, 926 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:24.159 it's got like one point two million. It's wow. So I think you're 927 01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:28.000 right. I think it is a tool that maybe we should use. And 928 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:31.159 I keep saying I need to use, but I'm an old goober and those 929 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.000 things are difficult. Video is like a whole different animal for me. But 930 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:39.000 I need to probably discipline myself and start doing that because it is a very 931 01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:44.000 popular tool, and TikTok reaches a lot of youth. So I mean, 932 01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.800 if you can get younger people to look into this kind of stuff, maybe 933 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.159 you can make a difference. Yeah, that's true. Actually, I was 934 01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:54.960 surprised on it the other day because I was on a homeschool mom's page on 935 01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:00.840 there and she was talking with a globe in the background of her She was 936 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.039 in her homeschool room with glow, and then some other mom commenting them there, 937 01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:08.239 and she said, first of all, get rid of your glow because 938 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:13.039 Earth is not a spinning ball. Nice guy, so funny, and I 939 01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:15.880 was like, wow, she just said that, you know, it was 940 01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:19.439 just it's funny to it's fun to find another, you know, another one 941 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:24.119 of us for sure that there's not enough. And once you do find somebody, 942 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.399 it's good to be able to commiserate with each other and like you said, 943 01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:30.039 set each other links all the time, and hey, check this out. 944 01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.880 So that's really awesome. That's I can't tell you how much I appreciate 945 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:39.840 you you coming on the podcast and share everything and continued success with the homeschool 946 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:44.840 and the children. And I'd like to hear more stories down the road about 947 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:48.039 what was it like living in Hollywood and what was Macaulay calking like? And 948 01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.520 oh my goodness, I have a lot I could tell you. I can't 949 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:57.439 imagine. I can imagine. I will say it is amazing because I can't 950 01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:02.479 imagine what a different world been through La. When we moved from Hawaii to 951 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:06.560 New York. We got stuck there for three days waiting for my car to 952 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:12.920 come on a boat and didn't do a lot, but it La Hollywood. 953 01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.600 I can't imagine what a whole different beast that is from like air quotes like 954 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:20.359 the normal world. Yeah it is. I actually would never I wouldn't want 955 01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:25.319 to go back. It's it's kind of scary to me now. Actually, 956 01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:28.199 even though I grew up there, it's got some nostalgia for me, but 957 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:30.800 it's sure I wouldn't want to live there again. Yeah, I don't think 958 01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:35.840 I would either, And but yeah, that that in itself is a rabbit 959 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:40.640 hole. And again, I'll put that video out of Shadows in the show 960 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.319 description. If you've never seen it, it's definitely worth another look. He 961 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:46.880 talks about how Hollywood works, but he also talks about how the media and 962 01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:51.760 the news is infiltrated and they all are really Mockingbird Operation Mockingbird. They're all 963 01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:57.920 controlled and they don't really there's no really, there's not a such thing as 964 01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.159 a reporter anymore. Because that sad to me. I used to have the 965 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:05.920 utmost respect for journalists because I thought like they were some of the most powerful 966 01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:10.600 people in the world, Like that was the unofficial, you know, fourth 967 01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:15.159 branch of the government. They would kind of make sure look out for corruption 968 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.199 and report on it and hold these people accountable. And then you get a 969 01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:21.720 little older and you realize they're all controlled and they're told what to write for 970 01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:27.840 the most part. Yeah, exactly, So what are you going to do? 971 01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:30.760 Well again, I can't thank you enough for coming on the podcast, 972 01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:35.159 but I would certainly love to give you the last few minutes of this podcast 973 01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:40.960 to say whatever your heart desires. Well, you know, you've asked at 974 01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:44.960 the end before, why the lie? Yes, I know if you still 975 01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:50.800 do that, But I just think beyond hiding a creator, which I do 976 01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:58.800 think is a big reason to hide more land, maybe to hide resources, 977 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.720 there's a lot of reasons. I think, you know, we got to 978 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:06.880 wonder what other resources that are out there that they don't want us to know, 979 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:10.199 What other land is out there. I just think there's a ton of 980 01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:14.439 land we don't know about and everything. Yeah, there's definitely could be something 981 01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:17.119 to that. And resource is a big one too. I think, excuse 982 01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:20.279 me, there's a reason why we're not allowed to go past the sixtieth parallel 983 01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:26.439 exactly tide. What's in you know, what's past the ice wall in Antarctica 984 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:32.359 or whatever. I think there's something to that too. Unfortunately we may never 985 01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:36.359 know until you know later on in life. But I think, to be 986 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:39.920 honest with you, I'm not sure if there's land past the ice wall. 987 01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:43.399 I think there there may be land within this realm that we don't even know 988 01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.159 about. The if you look at the the even on a flat earth or 989 01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:51.039 even a globe, if you look at the vast at the Pacific Ocean, 990 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:54.840 and I think one of the keys. I don't know if you've ever gone 991 01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:58.720 down the MH three seventy rabbit hole. The plane that disappeared I think in 992 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.399 what was a twenty fourteen that that is a very very deep rabbit hole. 993 01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:09.319 Those that plane was carrying a bunch of scientists with cloaking technology, and that's 994 01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:13.439 a very very deep rabbit hole. And there's a lot of people who think 995 01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:18.680 that there is a very small continent within our own, within these ice walls 996 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:23.279 that we don't even know a Wow, So I haven't, but that's a 997 01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:25.640 good one. I'll look into that. Yeah, for sure, that was 998 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.720 the one. I think the Indonesia plane that kind of just disappeared off the 999 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:36.119 face of the twenty fourteen very deep rabbit hole. Interesting. But yeah, 1000 01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:44.359 again, please do take the time and share your final thoughts. Yeah, 1001 01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.199 I mean, I think I think that was it. I just think, 1002 01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:50.079 you know, it's good for people to keep their minds open, basically, 1003 01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:54.800 is the only thing. I mean, you're not gonna you're not gonna be 1004 01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:00.880 you know, if you're made fun of, it's like they're just not there 1005 01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:04.840 yet, I think. But I don't know, it's hard to read to 1006 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:09.239 come up with anything really poignant to say no, no, that's that's fine. 1007 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:12.800 I completely get it. I think it is important that we stand tall 1008 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:16.199 in our convictions. And I also think, like you were kind of alluding 1009 01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:19.800 to, as there is a time and a place to broach these type of 1010 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:25.319 things. You know, maybe not walk into way Buffalo and wild wings and 1011 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.359 get on the microphone and announce the earth this flight, But if you're having 1012 01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:32.119 a conversation, like maybe when you had your pardon your neighbor over that one 1013 01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:38.279 time, maybe that would have been a good time to kind of drop a 1014 01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:41.680 flatter's just to see what kind of reaction you get. But I'm sure that's 1015 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.159 still in your mind, and maybe you will broach it with them down down 1016 01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:47.920 the road. Oh yeah, I think so for sure. Maybe just not 1017 01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:51.399 the first time we have met. Yeah, that's that it's their first time. 1018 01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:55.600 Sure you want to feel that out. But again, thank you so 1019 01:15:55.680 --> 01:16:00.000 much for sharing your story. And Carly's email address will be in the show 1020 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.359 notes, so if you want to reach out with any questions, homeschool questions, 1021 01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:09.279 anything of the nature, please do hit her up. And again our 1022 01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:13.880 thanks to Carly for joining us and everyone who has been on to share their 1023 01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:17.000 stories and we look forward to many, many more of these. And for 1024 01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.960 Carly, I'm George. God bless you all. Have a great week, 1025 01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:27.680 and until we meet again, we will see you. I know it's been 1026 01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:34.279 a struggle. I don't know if you've had some pain. I know you 1027 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:43.720 feeling tied, hell down all the way? Yeah, I know you feel 1028 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:54.920 them. No, you smile ain't the same as we go for you feel 1029 01:16:55.079 --> 01:17:02.039 like you've lost your way. Don't give up. No, don't give it. 1030 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:09.720 You nevers hold, don't let call the primise. It ain't done yet. 1031 01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:15.079 He's got a plan. Why it's away? Time got up? They 1032 01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:30.239 re come? Why wait? God up the recall. I can see the 1033 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:39.680 straight beside you. Child's are putting up five. Oh, you're stronger than 1034 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:46.560 anything you are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting a 1035 01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:55.880 bed, folliot beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah, you live and breathing, 1036 01:17:56.079 --> 01:18:04.560 move, you can hold your head. I don't give up. No, 1037 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:11.640 don't give in. Never loos home, don't let go on the primies. 1038 01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:18.680 It ain't Dounion's got a clay wa a raintail, God of mem come, 1039 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:25.720 don't give up, nor don't give in. Never love home, don't 1040 01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:30.840 let go the primies. It ain't n life, It's worth live in? 1041 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:41.199 What's a waytail? The god up? Baby cold? Why surpray down? 1042 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:48.920 Got up? Baby cold? Oh yes, what sur pray down? Got 1043 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:59.680 up? Steamy Cord, Oh yeah, you got up? Team call. 1044 01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:13.880 Don't give up? No, don't give in? Never the hol do they 1045 01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:17.960 goal of the primise? I mean and done? Ye's got a plan? 1046 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:26.880 Whats a guid of? Even costs? And don't give no dog give in? 1047 01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:32.239 But never the hold do they go of the primes? It ain't done? 1048 01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:40.439 Lovers w living? What's a die? The god of in the chars 1049 01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:54.279 Ah, the god of need gos? What you done? The god of? 1050 01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:09.079 And it cos you're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network, Just the 1051 01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:09.760 facts, Mammy,