WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:06.240
The Tigers clawing back again. Torque
labels this ball to the left center field,

2
00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:12.880
cannon fire into the camp and we're
tied again. That is the sound.

3
00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.320
That's the sound that you love to
hear on the bet of the spencil

4
00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.519
Torko center. That means that he
did everything right. The rhythm, the

5
00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.760
timing to two pitch is a fastball, and what do you do? You're

6
00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.839
making pay and Torques across that ball
to the left center tie this ball game

7
00:00:27.960 --> 00:01:07.000
up. All right, Welcome to
Xies and bros. On this Friday.

8
00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:14.680
We've made it through the week.
And that was, of course the sound

9
00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:19.799
of ballet sports and the Tigers game
last night or yesterday and they're lost to

10
00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:26.280
Texas. Spencer Torkelsen coming through to
tie things up. But Detroit again.

11
00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.560
The defense yesterday, what did we
say? We said, well, you

12
00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:32.879
know, the defense really isn't that
bad. They had three errors, but

13
00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.200
you know they've made eight on the
year. Are they really one of the

14
00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.519
worst defensive teams in baseball? That's
not even the point. They made three

15
00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:45.519
more errors yesterday and one was a
mistag by Jill or Shechella. How he

16
00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:53.000
missed that is still quite honestly a
little puzzling, or Sheella with an air,

17
00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.799
Veerling with an air, and Cole
Keith with a second straight game with

18
00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:06.519
an air. Again, what we
discussed yesterday was that maybe you're not necessarily

19
00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:15.199
overall concerned right now, but as
these things build and as you watch this

20
00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:23.080
team play, at some point you
form an opinion. Now when that is

21
00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:28.280
is really up to the individual.
I try not to form an opinion too

22
00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:36.000
quickly on a baseball team this early
in the season. Nineteen games in now

23
00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:42.680
ten and nine on the year roughed
up Jack Lighter, who couldn't control his

24
00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:47.120
fastball, but still couldn't come away
with the win because of their defense.

25
00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:51.560
Rightley Green gets a couple of hits, Mark Canna gets a couple of hits.

26
00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:59.199
Carry Carpenter with a big hit too, but he also had three strikeouts,

27
00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.159
one to end the game. Or
Selle had a couple of hits,

28
00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:10.400
Baya's had a couple of hits.
I think it comes to a point where

29
00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:16.000
you say to yourself, it's not
whether or not this team is good,

30
00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:23.360
it's whether or not this team can
win. Can this team win the division?

31
00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:30.919
I think that's what many people are
trying to answer and they're in Minnesota

32
00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:37.719
for a weekend series tonight. A
Minnesota team that is struggling offensively too,

33
00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:43.479
a Minnesota team that is five games
under five hundred, a Minnesota team that's

34
00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:50.759
lost four in a row. For
me, I sometimes look at a team,

35
00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.199
or oftentimes look at a team,
and then I start to measure it

36
00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:59.759
against others. I don't know how
you judge a team. I respect it

37
00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:05.120
however it is you feel without being
too emotional and too knee jerk. That's

38
00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:11.639
the hard thing about sports. It's
almost impossible, quite honestly. But when

39
00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:17.399
you look at a baseball team and
you see they're starting five, and you

40
00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:21.959
see their starting rotation, and you
see their bullpen starting five, they're starting

41
00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:28.160
nine, eight really, and then
they're starting rotation their bullpen, and you

42
00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.399
ask yourself, how many of those
guys do I want on my team.

43
00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.839
It's easier done in basketball, but
because you just seeing the five guys the

44
00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.120
entire time. But in baseball,
how many guys would you want this guy

45
00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.120
starting at third base for your team? Would you want this guy starting at

46
00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:55.079
shortstop for team or the team they're
playing? Do you want my guy the

47
00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:59.879
guy who's on your favorite team?
The team you're following compared to that.

48
00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:04.959
Do you want Spencer Charcoal Center,
Carlo Santana. We'll use the Minnesota series

49
00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:13.480
since it's coming up. Do you
want Edward Julian or Cole Keith? You

50
00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.759
want Willie Castro or Geo Orshella.
I'm plugging him into third base if that's

51
00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:21.720
all right. You want Carlo's Correa
who's now on the tendail or Kyle Farmer

52
00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:30.519
or Jave Bayez, want Alex Kirloff, Carrie Carpenter. That's how I look

53
00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:39.360
at it, and when you look
at Texas, of course, probably unfair

54
00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:49.959
because Texas is the defending world champion, but it's not like it's a team

55
00:05:50.000 --> 00:06:00.600
built on superstars. They're paid like
it, but are they superstars? Would

56
00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:08.639
you call Kyle Seeger such pretty damn
good player. I'm not a huge fan

57
00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:13.319
of him individually in my discussions with
him, but he's a pretty damn good

58
00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:18.040
player than three or four already.
Marcus Simeon, Hell yeah, really like

59
00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:25.680
Marcus Simon. He went three for
six yesterday. Good young player in Evan

60
00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:30.759
Carter. You like him? He's
only twenty one years old. Hard to

61
00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:40.519
judge right now? A Dooley Scarcia
absolutely. Wyatt Langford loved him coming out

62
00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:45.240
of Florida. Jonaheim, I think
Jonaheim is one of the better catchers in

63
00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:53.759
all of baseball in terms of all
around game, defensively and offensively. But

64
00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:59.279
if you also look at them,
you recognize they've got some guys maybe you

65
00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:08.600
wouldn't want Aodie Taveres Duran. Not
sure about Smith, right, I mean,

66
00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:18.959
it happens certain pictures. Okay,
I don't know enough right now about

67
00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:25.680
Josh Smith. Travis Jankowski is a
good fill in guy. I mean so,

68
00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:30.120
I guess my point is if you
build it with everyday players. And

69
00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:34.439
I'll go back to this constantly,
so you can roll your eyes if you

70
00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:40.519
want, But I think it's a
point worth making. I've established it and

71
00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:45.279
I'm going to use it as an
example on a pretty regular basis. This

72
00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:50.759
is why you want everyday players.
Question is due the Tigers have enough good

73
00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:56.560
everyday players. Monday morning we might
be talking about something completely different. After

74
00:07:56.639 --> 00:08:01.839
a weekend series sweep against Minnesota.
Don't know, the skeptic in you could

75
00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.360
say, eh, Minnesota's have very
good You're supposed to do that hard to

76
00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:16.560
sweep a team when you're of the
Tigers inflexibility. Maybe not so much with

77
00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:24.480
Texas, who's already established themselves as
a really good team and lead the West

78
00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.839
right now thanks to winning three out
of four. Maybe it's a little bit

79
00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.519
easier for a team like the Yankees, who after a good starter, Baltimore,

80
00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:37.080
who's got good young talent. Cleveland's
playing well again for crying out loud,

81
00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.080
they went again last night, Atlanta. We're seeing the same We're kind

82
00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.320
of seeing the same teams in a
regular basis, aren't we. Yeah.

83
00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:48.200
Our phone number, by the way, on ex'es and bros. Eight sixty

84
00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.399
six, eight three, eight forty
eight forty three. Our text line is

85
00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:58.279
sports Radio to twenty one thousand at
the bottom of the hour. Just because

86
00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:05.159
we have different listeners at different times, and because many of you in the

87
00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.480
six o'clock hour who get a chance
to listen, maybe we're not listening during

88
00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:13.799
our eight o'clock hour. Yesterday,
we're going to replay our interview with Max

89
00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.960
Boltman of the Athletic Covers. The
Red Wings does a hell of a job,

90
00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.320
and we will make sure that you
get the opportunity to hear all of

91
00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:28.600
his insight from yesterday's conversation. We'll
play that at six point thirty five here

92
00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:33.799
on a Friday morning on X's m
Bros. I do have this question for

93
00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.600
you. We will dive into this
a little bit later on, and that

94
00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:43.960
is whether or not you like the
Lions black alternate jerseys. We'll do that

95
00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:50.480
in the seven o'clock hour as well
when we come back. Notice this recently

96
00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.399
where somebody wrote an article and I'll
give you the idea who it is when

97
00:09:54.440 --> 00:10:01.480
we come back. Somebody wrote an
article on too much in while watching baseball

98
00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:07.720
games? Do you agree? We'll
get to that when we come back.

99
00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:13.559
Ex'es and bros. Here on the
Michigan Sports Network across the Great Data Michigan

100
00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.120
Huge Share with a special thank you
to three of our partners who are helping

101
00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:22.000
bring the three one three NFL Draft
party on Thursday, April twenty fifth to

102
00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.480
Life in downtown Detroit. Josh Garvey
and the team at Jordan Mayhew, one

103
00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:31.480
of the world's top accounting CPA and
business firms. Josh is a great man

104
00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.600
and that company is doing great things. Josh heads up the gr office.

105
00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:41.240
Also, Matt Golden, the CEO
of the Tullymore Golf Resort in Canadian Lakes,

106
00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.799
Michigan. They're sent to open up
both courses at the end of the

107
00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.679
month and you can book a stay
and play package or if you want to

108
00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.120
take care of business and mix in
a little pleasure on the golf course great

109
00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:58.080
food beverages. Go to Tullimore Golf
dot com. That is Tullymore Golf dot

110
00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:03.720
com bookers, stay in play package
or schedule your next event less than an

111
00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.000
hour north of gr and also to
the team at Coppercraft Distillery. They're the

112
00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.720
home of Honolulu Blue. If you're
Alliance fan, you need to be drinking

113
00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.919
Honolulu Blue. Thanks for your help
with the three one three draft party.

114
00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:22.679
We're teeing off our tenth year at
the Meyer LPGA Classic for simply give.

115
00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.960
Get ready for the best who are
yet to help neighbors in need while enjoying

116
00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:31.759
golf, food and family fun.
Join us June thirteenth through the sixteenth at

117
00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.360
Blakefield Country Club for fabulous food,
discoveryland for kids, and of course,

118
00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:41.279
elite women golfers from around the world
competing to help feed our neighbors. Get

119
00:11:41.360 --> 00:12:20.480
your tickets now at Meyer LPGA Classic
dot Com. Right back with you on

120
00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.919
Exus and Bros. Great Song There
Still Alive by Anti Ghost eighty six six

121
00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.639
eight three eighty eight forty three.
That's the phone number for here on Exus

122
00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.919
and Bros. Monday through Friday,
six until nine, and you could textas

123
00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:39.200
Sports Radio to twenty one thousand later
on this afternoon, same great affiliates throughout

124
00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.480
the Great State of Michigan the Huge
Show from three until six. Reading some

125
00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:54.039
CBS sports articles recently, I ran
into this one from an author by the

126
00:12:54.080 --> 00:13:00.600
name of Matt Snyder who writes about
baseball, and he's kind of writing allowed

127
00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:09.679
discussing a baseball game with friends about
the number of scoreboard information he gets in

128
00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:16.279
baseball, and I'm wondering what people
think of this too. There's a lot

129
00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:22.039
of information in baseball. There's more
numbers in baseball than really any other sport.

130
00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.679
You can almost you can get into
a rabbit hole, and it's hard

131
00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:35.759
to get yourself out of it.
The different things and situations that players face,

132
00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:43.600
and that you can then project,
what's he batting in a one to

133
00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.919
two count, what's he batting with
runners on first and second? What's he

134
00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:54.279
batting against the fastball? How many
times is he going to write? What's

135
00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.960
his numbers when he's ahead, and
account what's the tendency of the pitcher.

136
00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:05.120
It's constant. As a guy who
called baseball for over five years, trust

137
00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:13.159
me when I tell you this,
you can get lost. It can be

138
00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:18.000
really challenging on what to decipher is
really important at that moment in time.

139
00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:31.759
Well, because it's so damn numbers
driven teams broadcasts some broadcasters feel like everybody

140
00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.440
wants to know all of it.
Here's what you have on the screen.

141
00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.440
If you're watching baseball. You've got
the game. You've got what is called

142
00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:50.519
the score bug that tells you Tiger's
four ranger seven, top of the eighth,

143
00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:56.360
what's the count? You see the
diamond in the middle of it,

144
00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:01.279
and when there's a colored base in
yellow, that means a man's on.

145
00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.399
It's giving you the score, it's
giving you the inning, it's giving you

146
00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:11.919
the teams, it's giving you the
count, and it's giving you the situation.

147
00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:20.879
That's just on the screen. Then
on the bottom third is what is

148
00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:28.240
called the scroll that is giving you
information on what's taking place in the world

149
00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:35.240
of sports. As you know it
scores from around Major League Baseball. Something

150
00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.919
may have happened that's important in the
NHL, there is an individual who is

151
00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:48.919
in charge of that and they tailor
that scroll to that market's needs. So

152
00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:54.399
in Detroit in the fall, you
might see a big high school football game

153
00:15:54.440 --> 00:16:00.120
final, you'll see college football game
finals. Of your interest, or what

154
00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:07.080
we think is your interest, might
be a little different in other markets.

155
00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.360
So you get that idea. So
you have that all going on, and

156
00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:18.960
then you have at least in Detroit
or in the regions that carry Balley sports

157
00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:25.399
obviously not Pittsburgh, not Seattle,
not San Francisco, not Chicago, not

158
00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:32.559
Philadelphia. They're either Root or they're
NBC owned. But what you'll get is

159
00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:38.240
what's called the bally bar, and
that will give you a specific piece of

160
00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:52.159
information of the situation that is taking
place. Now col Keith is batting this

161
00:16:52.679 --> 00:17:00.320
in this situation a nugget of information. So you've got all that going on.

162
00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.960
On top of that, you've got
what is called a lower third piece

163
00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:12.799
of information, and the lower third
is situational. The Tigers are batting three

164
00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:19.960
p thirty three with runners in scoring
position. That's a lot to digest.

165
00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:27.000
That's not even the half of it. That's just on the television broadcast.

166
00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:37.079
What's going on on the scoreboard for
people in the ballpark. Oh and by

167
00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:45.519
the way, of course, you
will have certain moments that added information will

168
00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:51.960
provide. It will be provided.
Pitch sequence. This is how we got

169
00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:59.799
to three and two pitch count.
This is how many pitches he's thrown per

170
00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:07.720
This is how many pitches he's thrown
in the first four innings. All of

171
00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:17.759
it. Pitch velocity, the identification
of a pitch. You've seen the tracker

172
00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:23.160
in golf. For example, if
you were watching yesterday and you watched ludfig

173
00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:27.160
Oberg hit a two iron two hundred
and seventy one yards and have a putt

174
00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:32.240
for eagle, that's right. He
had a two iron two hundred and seventy

175
00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:38.079
one yards, simply pure. It
was beautiful. The ball gets tracked right,

176
00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:45.119
of course, same thing happens in
baseball. The amount of we would

177
00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:51.759
call them toys that you can use
in a broadcast is incredible and it's awesome.

178
00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:57.519
But how much of it do you
think is overwhelming to you? I

179
00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:04.160
didn't even dive into what's on the
score board these days. It's you've heard

180
00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:11.279
the phrase paralysis by analysis. That's
what it feels like. What is it

181
00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:18.079
you need and what is too much. That's what I'm wondering from you.

182
00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.559
Eight six six eight three, eight
forty eight forty three. I get where

183
00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:27.000
the writer's coming from. I do. I could see that it's almost too

184
00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:36.400
much. And then if you want
certain information, what is the information you

185
00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.480
want? It used to be,
well, you know what, Freddy was

186
00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:47.359
formed two with a two point four
era. That's it. Now we got

187
00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:53.160
batting average against, we've got whip, we've got walks, we've got strikeouts,

188
00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.400
we've got innings pitch, we've got
complete games, we've got shutouts.

189
00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:04.799
We've got starter or saves and loan
saves for relievers, ground ball rate.

190
00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:11.759
We've got so much that has broken
down, and then we feel like the

191
00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.480
need to give it to fans.
We used to have this discussion all the

192
00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:22.839
time when we show the starting lineups, what number should we show to the

193
00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:32.319
side of the name because batting average
is no longer the true indicator. So

194
00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:36.359
we had conversations with members of the
Tigers front office. What do you go

195
00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:42.440
by? What's the most important thing
for you? Is it on base percentage,

196
00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:48.920
is it slug? Is it ops? So they gave us the information

197
00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.480
ops, and my question to them
is how many fans. Do you think

198
00:20:53.599 --> 00:21:04.880
understand it? That's what I wonder, and I'm not sure they could even

199
00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:12.359
answer the question, what do you
want to see? Or is it too

200
00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:18.960
much for you? Our phone number
eight six six eight three eight forty eight

201
00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:25.640
forty three. That's eight sixty six
eight three eight forty eight forty three.

202
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.160
We'll take your calls. We'll take
some texts as well on the other side.

203
00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.559
After a bit, when we return, we replay our interview with Max

204
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.559
Boltman of the Athletic from yesterday here
on Xies and Bros. Across the great

205
00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:42.039
state of Michigan. Huge Here with
a reminder that on Thursday, April twenty

206
00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:45.599
fifth, I'll be in Detroit for
the NFL Draft. I'll be broadcasting live

207
00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:51.519
three until six for the world famous
Caucus Club as ay prepare for the private

208
00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:57.839
NFL VIP party with bull Rush Sports
Management and certified NFL PAAH and David Gregory

209
00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.400
will be joined by Josh Garvey and
his team from Door Mayhew Matt Golden,

210
00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.279
the CEO at the Tullymore Golf Resort. We'll check in and also our friends

211
00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:14.400
from copper Craft Distillery be listening for
your chance to win a VIP bracelet to

212
00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:19.960
get in to this private NFL Draft
night bash at the Caucus Club in downtown

213
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:25.480
Detroit, less than a half mile
from the NFL Draft Stage. It's being

214
00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:30.359
presented by the Michigan Sports Network and
David Gregory and Bull Rush Sports Management.

215
00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:34.599
To be listening to the huge show
for your chance to win a VIP bracelet

216
00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:40.880
to the Huge NFL Draft watch Party
Thursday, April twenty fifth in Detroit.

217
00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:48.640
Imagine this winning big at Swinging.
The food district is now local. There's

218
00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:55.960
something for everyone from Babaku's Burritos to
Banano's New York Pizza Kitchen, to Guy

219
00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.359
Fieri's Chicken and Pike's Love and Sandwich. Ys saver every delicious flavor at the

220
00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:07.599
all new Food District only at Swaring
Yagle Casino and Resorts your getaway for you

221
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.960
Imagine as it Swing Eagle Cassino dot
com for complete rules and vetoes

