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What is going on? Everyone?
Welcome to another episode of conspiracy or just

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a coincidence? I am Jack Allen. First, just go follow me at

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Cojack Podcast, and that's where you
can find me everywhere. But tonight,

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I've got two heavy hitters in the
truth world. Very excited, Don and

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Tony. Don Jeffries, thanks for
coming, buddy. How are you doing

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today? Wonderful. It's always great
to be with you, Jack, and

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it's especially great to be with the
incredible Tony Hartburn. And I'm the perfect

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intro Tony. Thank you. What's
going on? How's life? A life

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is good? I'm still here.
I'm still alive and I was able to

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keep my business afloat and do podcast
and talk to Don Jeffries, talk to

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Jack Allen. I mean, what's
there to complaint about? I love it,

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dude, I love it. Well. First, I just wanted to

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so I wanted to start with this
top because every time I see rfkat Annie

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Kennedy when I'm reading in the news
whatever, there's one man that immediately comes

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to mind, not Kennedy, and
that's Don Jeffries. So I wanted your

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take Don, as you know a
Kennedy extraordinair. What your thoughts were with

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RFK and he is officially running right, He threw like he is he yeah,

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okay, so yeah, so I
wanted to your thoughts, your thoughts

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on him. Well, uh,
you know, as I've said many times,

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I've told you before Air, I
I'm biased, and I know I'm

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probably naive or people tell me I'm
naive. You know, I believe in

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these you know, I kind of
I get fooled by Tucker Carlson and you

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know, so I'm looking for hope
like everybody is. But I don't pretend

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to look at this rationally. Bobby
Kennedy his father. I was a little

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kid, and that's when I first
became interested in politics. I followed the

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primaries. I started understanding the political
process a little bit. With his dad.

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He was a very romantic campaign and
you know, he had a big

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poster that everybody had. It was
him on the beach with his dog,

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you know, and he just really
he was There was something about him that

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really lit a spark and me.
And when he was assassinated, it just

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crushed me. You know, it
just it just took the sales out.

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I mean I didn't really associate it
yet with any kind even with his brother's

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death. But I know it had
a huge impact on me. So when

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you see somebody like this Bobby Kennedy
Junior, same name, looks very much

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like him and is talking about way
more radical stuff than his dad did.

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Now, whether he means that,
you know, Tony and Billy Ray and

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I've talked about. You know,
he's got some very problematic quotes in the

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past about climate change, but wanting
to throw people in jail and all that.

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So I hope he's evolved from that. I hope. And but he's

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you know, on some of the
things that David Knight talks about, whether

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he's talking about the santis or or
RFK Junior or whatever. He sounds great

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on a lot of issues. I
mean, he realized what do we have?

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I mean, if you can get
somebody, That's what the appeal to

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Trump was for me. Immigration,
I really care about the other stuff.

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So if they're really good on an
important issue, Bobby is really good about

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I think the suppression of subliberties and
what COVID did in the lockdown and the

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vaccines and all that. And he's
very good on foreign policy too. He's

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talking about the neo con foreign policy
and we've got to stop engaging everywhere else,

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so you know, on those and
of course he's most importantly he's the

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first presidential candidate in history that is
coming out and saying there was a conspiracy,

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saying the CIA did it. He's
basically and the government killed his uncle

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and his father. So you can't
ask for much more than that from the

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political candidates we get. And I'm
shocked that he's at twenty or percent more

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in the polls because I figured they
would use these polls like they did at

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Dennisk Descentach and my friend Cynthia McKinney
had just claimed there are one percent,

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So I don't know. That kind
of makes me wondering maybe they have some

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plans for him. I don't know, because they're not holding him at the

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one percent level. Because I have
a hard time believe he's polling at twenty

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percent in today's Democratic Party, to
tell you the truth, you know,

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because I don't know who agrees in
there. So we'll see what happens.

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But right now, you know,
just that's cautiously optimistic. But he's however

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you look at it, he's going
to make the campaign a lot more interesting.

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Oh, I like Tony any what
are your thoughts on is RFKR guy?

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Is he going to come in?
Well? I think we've should learn

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a lot of lessons from the Trump
arrows that one person, a man or

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a woman, can't be the solution, and Washington really isn't a solution.

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But I agree with Don on so
much of this. And if you know

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your history, you look at the
Kennedy family, especially RFK um There's a

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reason why Henry Kissinger is a hundred
and the Kennedy's are dead. Okay,

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I mean they stood for something.
I mean, thank God for the Kennedy

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brothers. If you know anything about
the Cuban missile crisis, I mean they

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stood in the breach of all the
advice from Dean Atchison, kurliss LeMay,

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and they had they had all these
they brought it. I mean Dean Atchison

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was the Secretary of State under Truman. They brought him back to say what

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would you do? It was all
air strikes followed by invasion, the Cuban

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missile crisis that would have started World
War three, and that it was the

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Kennedy brothers. And of course it
was RFK who went in with the Soviet

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ambassador and they had a back channel
communicate with Cruise Chiff to trade the Jupiter

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missiles in Turkey that were about to
expire. They weren't really useful, but

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they were still nuclear weapons that we
had in Turkey. It's kind of like,

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you know, we do this with
NATO now, like, well,

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why don't you mind us being right
on your border? We wouldn't stand for

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it either, And I think if
you look at the history, there's a

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reason why. And you know RFK
Jr. Says out in the open,

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which I think this is one.
This is a great thing to have.

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I don't care. I don't know
where he is on life. I don't

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know where he is on the Second
Amendment. But God blessed him for talking

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about things like the JAB and talking
about foreign policy and talking he was went

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out, it was in the it
was a great speech at the Bitcoin conference.

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I thought that was magnificent. And
he addressed the environmental issues of it.

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He's addressed the individual sovereignty issues.
So he's really strong. It's great

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to see that. But they're gonna
hack him. I think that no matter

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how this stacks up, he's the
He's the best person running right now.

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Yeah, hands down, Like far
and away. I know that we'll get

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into you know, the Trump the
Santist thing. But I'm watching. I'm

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watching RFK JR. Truly because I
think he has a lot of great things

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to say, and I would I
would. I think he's a genuine human

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being who's standing up against them,
the deep state, the the continuity of

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corruption. It has ruled this country
for decades now. UM So I think

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it's positive. Will I be voting, Will I be out canvassing? No,

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I won't. I won't be doing
any of that. Um I've given

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up on that process for national candidates. But I'd love to see it.

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You know, I'd love to see
a Ron Paul type. I don't know

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who that would be other than Ron
Paul, but I'd love to see somebody

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like that. I just think it's
wonderful when you when you inject real issues

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into debate. And I think that's
something that Ron Paul showed us, I

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mean, and Trump showed us.
Unfortunately he didn't, he didn't mean it,

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but it was it was too People
want to hear the issues, you

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just don't get to see them.
The you know, the donor class for

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both parties doesn't want any of these
talking points, so you just stay on

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surface level issues like Democrats are bad, right or something like that. Right,

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not really anything good, But RFK, He's coming out and I love

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to see it. I'm a fan. Well, who do you think would

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be? But either one of you, like who would vote for him?

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That's where I keep like thinking about, like, who's voting for this?

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Do you know what I mean?
Well? I think I think you know

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him him running as a Democrat.
I think he's kind of still living in

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nineteen sixty eight because the Democratic Party
has moved so much that I would imagine

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he will get a lot of Trump
voters. I think more than that,

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I think, but I don't.
I don't know a lot of them are

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so loyal to Trump. But Trump
has also lost a lot, and I'm

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not sure about the Santis. You
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him, and others are swayed by
Trump's you know, juvenile name calling and

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stuff like that, whereas you know, I think it's pretty stupid. But

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uh so, Yeah, I think
he's he's gonna draw from and I think

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all firstly, he's the only candidate
in town. For those of us that

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are skeptical about the vaccine. You're
certainly not gonna vote for Trump, who's

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bragging about it, Biden and any
other Democrat And uh, well the Santis

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Santa says it was was good about
the lockdowns. I guess he said some

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things about it, but I don't
think he's ever questioned the vaccine. So

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I think mostly independent voters will be
going after I F. Kenned Joan and

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maybe there's some old line Democrats that
will be swayed by just the Kennedy name

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and they'll it'll bring back nostalgia.
That's another Robert F. Kennedy. Interesting.

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Yeah, Tony, you that's like
what I just don't even if you

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know whether elections are legitimate, you
have such I mean, you've watched on

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Twitter. You have this Trump versus
the Santis, and you certain figure is

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probably being paid by both sides defending
one or attacking the other. I just

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I don't know it's gonna be I
feel like no one's even such a our

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like our little community pay attentions to
to OURFK. We like what he says,

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but beyond that, um and I
just it's like it's such a small

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group, but it's gonna be really
tough for him. They already circling the

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wagons around Biden saying they're not even
gonna have debates, They're not gonna open

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up the primary is to the process. How undemocratic is so funny? Like

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remember the number of twenty sixteen.
They're like, oh, no, Bernie

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didn't win because I have super delegates. Right, you may have gotten more

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votes, but I have super duper
delgates. Like you don't even know.

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It's just a mockery of everything that
we hold dear or when we perceive as

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the United States of America is these
two parties, these disgusting entities, these

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parasites that are killing us. And
they're like, who do you like?

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You know, like Bill's a bubb
or Satan. I'm like, I don't

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like the one. I don't know
you like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy.

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I don't like it. I don't
like either one. I think he's gonna

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have a hard time in the party
system. You know, And there's so

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many laws. People don't realize this
too. There's laws in certain states like

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Texas. Here's something you probably didn't
know. If you vote in the primary

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of a party, if you take
part in any way in a primary of

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either party, you cannot run is
a candidate, you cannot run as an

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independent candidate. Later, what do
you mean? So if you vote,

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like if you voted a minute,
or you vote at all, in any

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party, you cannot take part and
you cannot run as an independent candidate.

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And Texas thing, So that's just
Texas. Imagine what all these other states

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have that rigged against the individual so
like just to just get ballot access.

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That's why Perot was so important in
ninety two. He kind of came out

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of nowhere. He shook up the
political process. He had a big enough

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name, he had a big enough
bank roll, and he was able to

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shake it up. I was I
mean, I was the first political paper

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I ever wrote. Like I was
twelve years old. I remember I talked

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about this the other night. My
stepmother thought that my dad wrote it.

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It's like, why would you do
that? I would you write his paper?

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I was like, Oh, I
was interested. I was twelve years

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brow and he was shaking things up. I thought it was great. Yeah,

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he would need to do something like
that. It would need to in

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order to really change anything, we
have to leave the parties. I'm sorry,

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it has to do. I mean, if you really want to make

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chance, you have to leave the
parties. You have to and it's gonna

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be You're not gonna win at first. It's gonna take. But I think

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we need to fracture it, you
know that. You know the Kennedy I

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mean JFK said to take the CIA
and smash it into a thousand pieces and

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scatter it to win. Same thing
with the political process. Interesting, Yeah,

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yeah, I totally totally agree.
It's just I would look like I

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guess I every four years, I
just I think don I were talking about

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before. I know, everyone's so
corrupt and they're they're these you know,

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backstabbing people, they're hypocrites. But
each four years where I'm like, man,

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maybe maybe I know it's a very
small chance, but maybe this person

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is gonna even like Trump, I
think I see, you know, I'm

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like, I find myself gravitating towards
Trump because this propaganda is so good at

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bringing bringing you back or giving you
hope. Or maybe it's me that's refusing

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to let go of hope that somebody
we can vote in to change us for

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the better. But I don't know, well Trump Trump is and I was

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at our friend, Vince Agnelli.
Tony knows very well. I had we

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had our weekly or monthly lunch.
Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry,

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sorry, sorry sorry sorry sorry about
that. I hit my like thing there.

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Sorry about that. Sorry, don
continue, No, no problem,

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I said the Vince Agnelli and I
am good friend. Tony knows that met

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through our you know, him being
on David Night showing me being on there.

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Um, we have a lunch together
every month. And uh, most

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of the guy as he's with her, very right wing. Most probably at

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least half of them still support Trump. Of course Vince doesn't. But I

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was I don't debate him too much, but this guy, I was just

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saying, you know, I really
admire your face, man. I mean,

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because he's saying all the things about
you know, this time he comes

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back, it's going to be different
everything. I said, I have to

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admire your faith. I try to
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even before the vaccine, he could
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thought, well, maybe he's finally
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but you know, after he left
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the songs, and then he's bragging
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he sells anybody on anything at this
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people that are loyal to him.
Dude. I mean, on Twitter,

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it's a bad I'm sure you see
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but I see people that I like
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would never didn't pick a side,
and you obviously someone's paying their paycheck because

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it's just a bad that. You
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oh, this is why you know
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if this meant but isn't this going
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you think he's even running it?
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just creating conflict in the the GOP. That doesn't seem If I was the

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king of the GOP, i'd say
not the time, like next, you

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know, keep running Florida. Um, but its like, do you think

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it's just their personalities or what is
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think that, you know, DeSantis
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the same way about him as I
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obviously troubling aspects. He's he's even
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to sign that law about basically making
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Semitic. It's very troubling Ledgislason there
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he is he seems to have done
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to have like done some things to
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schools. He has gone against the
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least initially he was on record as
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the Ukraine nonsense, but then he
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later or something. So is any
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a gun to my head and I
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vote, and I had to vote
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over you know, any of the
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know, he actually has a better
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not. So it's troubling when people
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certainly don't trust him. But you
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think they're counting the votes anyway.
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to look around the people and Billy
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about how much fraud there was in
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again that's because how it feels about
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think that they don't need to engage
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if you just look at I look
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people, and I see the Democratic
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it. I mean, I see
the people driving around with masks on and

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nobody in their car. You know, these people that look at the crazy

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TikTok teachers, the transgenders themselves,
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somebody? Who are they voting for? So I I don't think they need.

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I do think they robbed Carry Lake
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was some fraud there, but I
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have to do much, and they
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election, for instance, to try. I think Trump did probably win the

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twenty twenty election, but he would
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country is divided and half the country
hates him. So that's what's crazy that

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people, the Republicans are still living
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the Reagan years or something that because
of your open border policy, the demographics

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have changed. You're never going to
have that again. So now you're outnumbered,

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so they don't need. They may
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know, we're actually gonna let them
vote because they know they know these people

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are gonna vote Tony. What do
you? What do you? I know

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we kind of change to that was
my changes to Trump and disantist. But

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why why why are they both running? They I thought they were like friends.

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What's what's the point of us?
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you stay home, right, there's
a whole host of things that can happen

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when you run for president. I
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up a certain amount of delegates,
makes you a power player. Maybe you

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don't maybe you don't know that you
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you could be Secretary of State,
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or not the ambassador of the UN. You could be a number of things.

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I mean, remember Rick Perry,
he couldn't remember the three agencies he

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wanted to cut, but one of
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Trump made him the head of the
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things that you get sometimes when you
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it is kind of a weird that
the Santis. Of course it doesn't.

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like, oh, Ted Cruiz,
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know he's a he's a bush guy. You know, they really fool values

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voters. And it's funny because nothing
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today on my show. I mean, we have Greg Abbott in Texas and

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Greg Abbott thinks it's very strong,
very strong rock Red State Republicans, which

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all other issue with Red State.
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you know, apprehended at the border. He puts them on a bus and

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sends him to a sanctuary city.
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know, like, you know,
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That you're sending people that are I
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oh he's strong on the border really
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have lost all equalibering and accountability.
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known don knows this, I know, but two thousand and seven ish,

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somewhere in there, there was a
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They were going to run the NAFTA
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gonna be cut through Texas condo.
Lisa Rice went out to I think it

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was Baylor and spoke there. They
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and all this stuff. Well,
Texans, there was a last gasp of

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demographics of people left over like blue
dog Democrats, and I mean, there

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was a whole host. Now those
people are passed away. Unfortunately, a

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big chunk of them are gone.
Yeah, but they had to play kate

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to them, so you had a
pale face. George W. Bush go

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in front of the country and was
like, we're gonna put a fans on

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the border. You know. He
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We're gonna do and Hillary Clinton voted
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quashed that that demographic is gone.
I've never heard that phrase called blue blue

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blue dog. Yeah, blue dog. Didn't say. My friend Congressman Ralph

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Hall, I was another thing I
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Congressman Ralph Hall. Have got his
Hall for Congress up here above my I

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ran against him. We got to
be really good friends. And he told

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me one day we were talking.
He goes, you know, Tony,

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I've looked in the mirror every morning
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and he goes, I've never seen
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He put Ronald Reagan on hold,
by the way, he like he

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wanted to always do. Ronald Reagan
called him on the phone when he was

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congressman. He said, put him
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I did it. And so he
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he's like I would he goes,
I gotta I can't can't imagine running for

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presidents. You gotta think of the
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mean we already know Trump right,
he's a deeply wounded narcissist, as Tay

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cob As his former lawyer said,
um, but you know de Santis Harvard

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Yale. See the thing is I'm
with Don like if you said, okay,

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you know it's Kamala Harris or or
Rhonda Santists or it's an even nicky

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Haley, because I'd be like,
oh, you know that war. I

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mean just like needs war, like
to survive. I don't know if it's

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like there's a ticking time but somewhere
like she's gonna expire if they doesn't have

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a war. But I don't trust
Rohnda Santists on war. I don't trust

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him on on the politics that matter
to me, or like ending the American

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Empire, restoring our fiscal accountability,
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I just see an extension of the
Bush dynasty. I mean, we

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cheer people like Rohn decentists too,
because he did his job like and that's

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no one does that anymore. So
it's like the bar is so low,

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yes, like you're like, yeah, we're just I mean, look at

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the Christian rights hero is Elon Musk, a guy who wants to implant the

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internet into your head, who does
not, who wears the costume of Baphomet,

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and he Novus orders the chlorum on
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the hero of the Christian right now. And I just I have to get

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off this train. It's like I
don't know where I belong. I know

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that I'm making I which you know
in your life back about paychecks the conservatives,

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there's and you mentioned Abbott, and
I try to tell people this all

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the time when they and I think, what that guy that love Trump was

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giving me the same argument here all
the time for conservatives, Well he can

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he doesn't have the authority to put
the border to put the border prol out

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there, and said, well wait
a minute, what happened? And when

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Desantist pulled his very entertaining stunt of
you know, sending the migrants to at

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Martha's vineyard, and it was entertaining
as hell. It was great, We've

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just revealed what we already knew how
horrible hypocrites these people are. What did

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they stay there tony two three hours
at the most. And that Governor Boston,

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who's a Republican or Rhino, he
had he had the National Guard out

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or what and they were gone within
a couple hours. Now why could he

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do that? And yet the governor
of Texas, I mean that they had

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to put up with a small group
of migrants for a couple of hours.

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These people, these people on the
Texas Board, if you saw some of

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the videos, just wrote a story
for American Free Press. I was shocked

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at the pollution and trash that is
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Wherever you are, if you're listening
to the show, maybe some of your

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environmental activists should be concerned about with
the damage to the ecosystems down there.

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They're making it so that animals can't
nest. They're polluting the water and the

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ground. You should see some of
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dirty diapers, clothes, everywhere it's
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thick all around, like the busiest
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and we're doing nothing about it.
And Abbott, it's unconstable that his stunt

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is to say, well, I'm
going to keep shipping them to other areas

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of the country like and okay,
it was entertaining once, but why don't

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you ship them back to Mexico?
And again, why don't Why can't you

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have the best Why can't you do
the same thing the governor of Boston did

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you have to be live in Martha's
Vineyard to be able to get the National

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Guard out? So those people want
to conservatives say it isn't an authority.

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Why did the governor of Massachusetts have
that? And but that's that's what the

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Republicans. They want to have a
consistent no action policy. That's been basically

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their their plan forever. They don't
do anything. They just CounterPunch very ineffectively.

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But at some point you have to. If you listen to my show

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today Atony Telly, I'm having more
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you know, talking about what Chop
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taken their kids. It's horrible what
they're doing. Where are the Christian ministers,

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where the pastors the big churches?
Why aren't they protesting this? And

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I said, the transgender activist.
They get way more support from their fraction

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of a populace. They'll have tons
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the death for their right to use
whatever pronouns they want. Where are the

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Christian pastures, or for the right
for people to not have their kids stolen

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from the government because their homeschooling,
you're not getting vaccinated, or because some

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stupid neighbor or a relative or a
doctor in this case, you know,

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it says one of your kids looks
a little too skinny. It's happening all

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the time. And they tried.
If you're listening, Tony, they got

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two of the best, I would
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and Thomas Matthew. I think he's
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tried to get them involved and they
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as long as you don't do anything, that's why we're in this situation.

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We're in the other side does things. They are activists, and our

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side, if you want to call
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over into the right, they're just
completely ineffective and they don't do anything,

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and they just they just sit there
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saying we'll vote harder next time.
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working. Don do you think,
I mean, I agree with I never

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see I see tons of left everywhere. I mean anytime they have they filled

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that protest out and we only get
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um, you know, some other
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obviously is going to promote these the
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there was a ant I'm just anti
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as much coverage as a put even
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they're going to focus on the other
side. Do you think that could be

406
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also, Yeah, they would,
but if you get enough people. And

407
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again obviously this was the other side, but it was a much more conservative

408
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.759
country back in the early nineteen sixties, and the civil rights movement was driven

409
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.519
agally through the black churches. Reverend
Martin Luther King and Reverend Ralph Abernathy,

410
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.720
the leaders are well, Jesse Jackson's
not really a reverend they calls himself that,

411
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:12.200
but most of them were so.
And you had black churches leading the

412
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:17.079
marches, leading to sit in so
all that. Where are they? I

413
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.559
mean as far as abortion, I
mean, I remember back when Catholics priests

414
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.039
used to march in pro life marches. I don't think any of them do

415
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.960
anymore. But where are they stopping
the transgender nonsense? There there? Or

416
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:33.359
critical race theory, anything that the
ridiculous schoolbooks that they're making little kids read

417
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.000
about, you know, graphic sex
acts between grown men and little boys.

418
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.480
Where are they they They're not anywhere, and they're they're just they don't do

419
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.480
anything instead you And this is where
Joel Ostein and people like that, if

420
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.039
they have anounced of sincerity and I'm
which I don't think they do, but

421
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:55.200
they could prove it by using some
of their millions to organize some efforts.

422
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.960
And certainly you think they couldn't draw
a crowd to one of these protests.

423
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.160
Let's have an anti trans let's have
a back to sanity, you know,

424
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.880
there are only two genders march or
something like that. There's millions of Christians

425
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.880
and if you had effective leaders,
but these these leaders are pathetic. Most

426
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.640
of them are into for the money. If they really care about these issues,

427
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.680
they don't do it, and they're
letting really, what are a very

428
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:26.759
small percentage of freaks that are mentally
troubled. They're letting them out number them

429
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:30.880
and overpower them at these I mean, you see some of these things where

430
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.799
you have all these crazy transgenders mobbing
a couple poor pro life people. That's

431
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:40.039
pathetic. That shouldn't happen, but
it could only happen because the churches have

432
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.799
failed. The alleged religious leaders are
doing nothing but asking for money presentably.

433
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.480
Absolutely, you know, the prosperity
gospel. By the way, I'm a

434
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:56.319
reverend, true i am. I
am an ordained minister. Yes, maybe

435
00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:02.279
maybe maybe we can start the America
plugged revolution, Don, maybe we'll start

436
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.599
Yeah, the church, right,
good comes out of the church. That's

437
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.920
sun sue that you know, the
battle is won and the temples long before

438
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.759
it's fought. Right, he decided
that, and that's this is part of

439
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:22.000
the massive I don't even know the
depth of it. But if you read

440
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.640
history and you look into the work
that the magnificent work that Don's done on

441
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.680
hidden history, we have I mean
layers of mind control. We can't fathom.

442
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.519
You know, this is the United
States is being targeted for destruction.

443
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:41.319
This is a controlled demolition. It's
benefiting a very select few, and they've

444
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.839
targeted the heart of our culture,
the heart of who we are. Um.

445
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.440
You know, it's the historian Will
Durant says, when the faith dies,

446
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.400
the culture dies, the people die. That's where you start. You

447
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.319
attack the faith, you attack the
family, you hit the heart. That's

448
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.079
what cultural Marxism is. That's the
people that were kicked out of Hitler's Germany

449
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.599
in the thirties that set up the
intellectuals you know, that were that found

450
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.000
refuge in the United States. That's
the Frankfort School from Frankfort, Germany,

451
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:12.200
and um, you know, they
they figured out these were hardcore Marxists and

452
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.759
revolutionaries, and they said, look, we took over Russia. You know,

453
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.400
like just like mause Tongue said that
the power comes out of the barrel

454
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.000
of a gun. They took over
mother Russia. But they figured out they

455
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:29.559
they held it, but they didn't
really have their communist utopian paradise yet because

456
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:33.680
the people didn't really believe it.
They were just afraid. So they said

457
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.720
we got to start from the bottom
up. We got to start in the

458
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:40.599
education system. And that's where that
comes from. Like that that seed that

459
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.880
was planted and it's blooming. Now
you can see mean and we and it's

460
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.799
like living in a William Butler Yates
poem, you know, like where the

461
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.559
best black all conviction, and the
worst are full of passion intensity. That's

462
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.359
Don's right, Like the worst are
just full of rage and bigger and their

463
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:02.319
planning and their militant and RP were
like, oh well, we got to

464
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.119
work across the old. They're trying
to divide us, guys, they're trying

465
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.400
to divide us. Yes, yes, they're trying to divide us. And

466
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.240
they're so they're so scared of being
called or homophobic or transphobic. Now they're

467
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.519
so scared. Why do you care? That's why I get people when they

468
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.519
defend Trumble. You know they if
they had done that, they would have

469
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.759
been said. What you acknowledge that
they attacked him the entire time he was

470
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.160
an office. They were impeaching him
every other week, they were constantly launching

471
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.200
and he didn't do anything. So
what more could they have done if he

472
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.119
had done something? So that that
argument doesn't hold water. At some point

473
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.359
you have to you can't be scared. You know. One of the Robert

474
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.519
F. Kennedy Junior and his UH, he wrote the forward to UH,

475
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.079
Judy mikovits his book and he quotes
his father in there when he says,

476
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:55.920
or Robert F. Kennedy Senior said, the greatest what takes the most courage

477
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.240
is moral courage. It's it's even
it's even rarer than physical courage. And

478
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.599
we have very little moral courage in
this country at this point because you can't

479
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.200
you can't say whatever kind of courage
the left habit isn't moral because it's immoral,

480
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:13.160
So they have immoral courage, I
guess. But the right has to

481
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.200
have moral courage there. If this
is a spiritual battle, you have to

482
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.920
feel that on your side that you're
fighting for good and I don't see it

483
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.880
anywhere. And when you're looking to
people like Trump, especially who's you know,

484
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.480
has not led a holy life,
is the only thing. If he

485
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.759
said he was, you know,
struck on the road to Damascus, and

486
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.599
now he's he's you know, this
is a guy who's traded in supermodels every

487
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.720
twenty years. He's had tons of
affairs he's he's not any He's worse than

488
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.960
Russia. Limbo or Russall. Limbo
is there hero who's married three times,

489
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.079
had no biological children. This is
the hero of the right. These guys,

490
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.480
you know, you have to kind
of live what you're saying at some

491
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.920
point, and we just don't have
anybody doing that that. I'm reading this

492
00:32:54.079 --> 00:33:00.640
book bathering the Great Washington Post Empire, and it's fascinating because Catherine, she's

493
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.400
in college and she I don't know
if it's her or who's the guy that

494
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:14.640
wrote the Jungle what was his name? No, it's Upton, Sinclair Upton

495
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.759
or her. Upton has a quote
that like was put in the press like

496
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:23.720
how how it was Hollywood will never
be left wing because there it was basically

497
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:29.759
just saying like it's so controlled by
these fascist, evil fascist keeping things concerned,

498
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.440
or that Hollywood will never be left
wing because they're terrified to print it.

499
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.279
And I just made me think of, now, just the power shift

500
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.359
that that must have had. I
don't know when this happened, you know,

501
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.519
you guys know history better than I
do, but I just found that

502
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.200
so fascinating. I think like the
quote basically that Upton had was, um,

503
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.079
he made a movie or a book, a book about a fascist dictator

504
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.039
who was a Republican, and they
blocked it. They tried to censor the

505
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.599
book, and his quote was something
like, well, if you guys Republicans

506
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.519
are sensitive by this, maybe that's
something to think of. So one that

507
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:06.359
just amadenly made me think of today
like the same type of the same type

508
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.159
of rhetoric. But it just amazes
me that at one point, I mean,

509
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:13.599
we have no power the right,
whether that's we or not we.

510
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:22.679
Yeah, go ahead, Sorry,
there's no name me one powerful rightist organization

511
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:28.079
that can actually get anything done.
Not one. And it's a fake thing.

512
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.599
I mean there's a lot of donations. They their donation. I mean,

513
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.360
that's what did I call the GOP
grifters on patrol, always looking for

514
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.079
something like money for it and they
don't like to win. They like to

515
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:45.840
be fundraising for eternity. You're talking
about Katherine Graham, aren't you. Yes,

516
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:50.800
Yeah, you know she dated Warren
Buffett. You got to that part

517
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.599
yet where they have I have you're
ruining. I'm only halfway done. If

518
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.559
you're gonna blow it for me,
what a wonderful romance. Well, here's

519
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:01.760
something well and you get off topic. But you know, I was thinking

520
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.880
of Kathy and Graham, and I
thought of Warren Buffett, and I think

521
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.239
of Warren Buffett and his dad was
actually a real deal. Like his dad

522
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:12.239
was like remember that John Bird Society
was a congressman. There was absolutely like

523
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.079
a right wing guy in Nebraska.
I don't know what happened to his son,

524
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.719
but it's like, you know,
like the not even close, you

525
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.599
know, but um, you're right
about like that. There was there was

526
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.800
a period in America where and it's
funny, like you like the right is

527
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:31.079
taking over where you know, like
Reagan. You know, like it's it's

528
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.639
it's so silly, you know,
like you look back at the Reagan years

529
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.159
and it was just like you know, well, it's like is the problem,

530
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.480
yeah, but you're growing it.
I mean I was thinking about today,

531
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.239
like the first time we hit a
trillion dollars in debt was under Reagan.

532
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.599
And it just kept going. I
remember He's like I get rid of

533
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.559
the Department of Education, and you
get rid of it by growing it,

534
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.000
I guess because he just keeps growing
it. Nothing was cut under Reagan.

535
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.760
There's Reagan. Remember Reagan. It
was art Laugher the africurve. You know,

536
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.480
we spike it by cutting the top
marginal tax rates and deregulating, but

537
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.559
we also increase spending, which is
you know, that's the Keynesian model.

538
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.320
So it is funny when I think
of people like the when you think of

539
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.559
like the boogeyman that the left has
that the right's going to take over,

540
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.920
I'm like, where where is the
right? What do you name me?

541
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:24.559
One governmental organization? Where the top
I say the top fifty people. I

542
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:29.800
better the top fifty people is they're
a conservative like rock rib person. Not

543
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:35.000
a chance, there's nobody. All
aspects of government from the top down of

544
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.239
every agency is covered by a globalist
leftist done the Handmaid's Tale. I don't

545
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.840
know how many women I know that
Handmaid's Tale could happen. I said,

546
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.559
what good God, they've killed the
maternal instinct in American American women, especially

547
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.239
what kind of fantasy do you have? And men are so subservient. That's

548
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.320
why one of the shows I watched
my son turned me onto it is Jason

549
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:04.280
Whitlock's Less podcast. He's a black
guy and he's the most he's the best

550
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.079
one out there about race relations and
what he calls the matriarchy too. He's

551
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:13.760
no white person could do what he
says what he says. He calls out

552
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.880
the matriarchy all the time about how
weak men are and how they've let women

553
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.400
take over the culture. And he's
always calling out black athletes and black entitlement

554
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.639
everything. He's an amazing guy.
He used to be in Tucker Carlson a

555
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.960
lot that his HID podcast is really, uh, it's it's it's the best

556
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.519
thing out there, I think next
to our shows, of course. And

557
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.239
the last thing I wanted to was
that that that growing, you know,

558
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:43.000
the Prussian education system, and so
I'm reading, I'm listening to a book.

559
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.440
I forget what it's about Prussia though, like the history of Prussia,

560
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.639
and it was that and I've always
heard that our education and our military is

561
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.519
based off the Prussian system, and
I never really knew what that men.

562
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:59.360
So I was fascinating learning that they
wanted to get people more um subservient to

563
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.679
the state, loyal to the state. And they came out and I forget

564
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.599
when it was, I guess like
seventeen hundreds, right they instituted this knew

565
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.480
idea, maybe even before that in
Prussia, this is how we're going to

566
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.400
get the people to fall in love
with us. We're going to teach them

567
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.679
from day one, this is how
you become a good member of society.

568
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.320
This is how you do this.
And it just helped me understand or comprehend

569
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.840
like what the American education system slowly
he was doing all these years. Whether

570
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:29.360
teachers knew that or not, you're
just creating these perfect drones that that.

571
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.920
Yeah. I always give the example
like if you call out Zionism to people

572
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.480
that maybe you don't even watch politics, maybe aren't even Christians, they will

573
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.719
defend it by gut reaction, and
it's like amazing. It's like what skin

574
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.480
do you have in the game.
You have no skin in the game.

575
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.960
But yeah, you're yelling at me
or getting upset. It's just they've conditioned

576
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.199
people so well to just mister Smith, you know from the matrix like they

577
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.800
it just pops up into them and
they're able to they start, you know,

578
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:05.119
shooting at your glaw whatever. Yeah, do you think God, Yeah,

579
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.000
no, I certainly agree with what
you're saying. But I think you

580
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.519
know, they used to our education
systems since I guess John Dewey pushed it

581
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.920
on us over a hundred years ago
was always concerned I think, with creating

582
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:22.079
a good citizens of the state,
you know, but at least before like

583
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.840
they used to teach them. They
stopped teaching civics before I got to high

584
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.320
school sits in a long time,
and they used to teach civics and so

585
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.760
people. I don't know how much
that was absorbed, but presumably at least

586
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.480
some of the people got some lesson
in civics and how you maybe try to

587
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:43.360
behave appropriately in society, try to
you know, to understand how maybe how

588
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.840
to engage with others. I don't
know what they exactly taught, but I

589
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:51.199
think it's something that certainly needs to
be taught now. But it's so lacking.

590
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.159
They are still creating citizens of the
state, but it's a monster state

591
00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.480
now. So these kinds of citizens
are different. They're creating freaks, and

592
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.679
they're destroying little kids, you know, with the I mean, this is

593
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.239
all Frankenstein's stuff. I mean,
let's little girls, let's go cut your

594
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.239
breasts off and we'll pose topless with
the Frankenstein's scars next to your beaming mother

595
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:16.159
and your evil you know doctor that
participated and did this to you little boys.

596
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:20.320
You know, you cut your thing
off, and you know, and

597
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.159
there's so many people that we're not
seeing it yet, but we're starting to

598
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:28.480
see a little bit of another fifteen
twenty years. You're gonna have so many

599
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:34.159
people that are just completely probably I've
already killed themselves or on the verge of

600
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.199
that, because they went through this
and they have regrets. You already have

601
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.760
so many people that come back and
want to retransition or whatever. And it's

602
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.760
it's just it's it's terrible. And
again, where are the churches. Where's

603
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.599
the other side? Where's my church? The Catholic church? They probably agree

604
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:51.840
with it, I don't know.
They used to be pro life. And

605
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.519
where where the fundamentalists that are there. They're always there to lecture about you

606
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.880
know, you're gonna go to hail
and all. They love to say that

607
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:05.199
stuff. But why aren't they saying
about this. They're quiet. I don't

608
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.639
know if they're talking about it from
the pulpit or not. I don't think

609
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.440
they are. But they need to
be going out in the streets. And

610
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.280
again, that's what we know.
I know there are powers behind the civil

611
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.719
rights movement, but that's what made
the civil rights movement effective. Getting charismatic

612
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.320
reverence out in front of the flock
and they will start following. That's what

613
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.599
we need here. We need there's
charismatic preachers out there. Get some religious

614
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.000
leaders out there and stop trying to
collect money on television and go out lead

615
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:36.679
your flock and try to fight back
against this pure Satanism that it's taken over

616
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:38.199
the culture. And I think you, I mean me. You know,

617
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:42.360
the world America is not as Christian
anymore. So maybe you could say you

618
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.280
have these real charismatic podcasters and stuff. But the issue then I also see,

619
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.960
especially with our community whatever you want
to call it, is anybody that

620
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.920
maybe is charismatic and has a large
following in if they're successful, they're a

621
00:41:55.000 --> 00:42:00.719
fact that it's they're immediately they're they're
working with the sea, they were at

622
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.000
the you know, and Nick twentys
like comes to mind. All these people

623
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.159
that whether I don't know if they
are or not, but you can't if

624
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.440
you're too successful, you're you're you're
you're a fed you know, and you

625
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:15.280
already lost now twenty percent of the
conspiracy movement or whatever because you're too successful

626
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.719
to have grown organically or what have
you. Yeah, Well, the conspiracy.

627
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:28.280
Alternative media feeds on itself. It
eats its own and it's unfortunate.

628
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.840
I think a lot of that's like
by design so it can't go anywhere.

629
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.559
Um, but it really if you
look at a like a like a lot

630
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.119
of the comment sections and places when
you go live and then like oh this

631
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.480
is you're a shill and then you
did you didn't. You don't believe what

632
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.719
I believe, so you must be
a plant. And it's like, you

633
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:51.440
know what that leads to ladies and
gents nealism, like neialism, nothing matters,

634
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.280
nothing's real. I mean, why
are you even showing up? It's

635
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.639
funny because the neilist always wrote papers
and stuff. I'm like, well,

636
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.840
if you don't believe in anything,
we why do you care if anybody believes

637
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.280
it? You know, like what
it's so there's always some kind of like

638
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:06.599
deeper thing. And you know there's
a lot of people I don't agree with

639
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.719
their I think there's a lot of
great researchers in alternative because we have to

640
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:15.320
do this job that the mainstream won't
do because they can't because that's not their

641
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.960
Their job is to read the teleprompter
and have a hairdo or whatever and be

642
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.159
a personality. It's not to gun
cover anything. And you know we're talking

643
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.559
about that. There was a pole
to day on Summit dot News like two

644
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.480
thirds of Americans think that the media
is the enemy of the people. And

645
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.679
I'm like, welcome to the party. Foul. I mean, that's a

646
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.039
long time. I mean, what's
wrong with the other third? You know,

647
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.840
um, yeah, they're obviously the
enemy of the people. And I

648
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.880
don't know. I just think there's
there's something, there's a sort of neihilism

649
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.480
that goes with it. I know
exactly what you're talking about. Like if

650
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.000
you get too big, oh,
then you're a shill, and then you're

651
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.760
you're a part of the you're an
op, you're a fed. We have

652
00:43:54.840 --> 00:44:00.760
to be really careful with that because
people ought to be allowed. Tom I

653
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.920
probably won't ever be like big or
anything, because I mean, the way

654
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.239
to get big right now is to
find out what your audience wants. Your

655
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.559
audience isn't You don't build your audience
necessarily anymore. You go find what they

656
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.239
want and you say it. Like
I've been in broadcasting since I've been in

657
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.519
radio for since twenty thirteen. I've
been on major stations and I know exactly

658
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.519
what to say. I don't say
it because I don't believe it. But

659
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:29.119
I could. I have the skill
set. I could have a million followers

660
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.519
in a year. And that's where
you hit Trump real hard. You just

661
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:36.199
you, you go after and you
kind of put a camera on all the

662
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.880
crazy idiocy. You know, you
talk about bud light cans for six weeks

663
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.639
in a row. You know,
like that's what you would do. And

664
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.280
it's boring and it's stupid and it's
intellectually slow and I can't do it and

665
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.559
I won't never have a big audience
because of that. You're totally right,

666
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.840
dude, And it's such a simple
yea. If you're want to be on

667
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.400
the right, if you're a minority, all right, you're almost there.

668
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.400
You just gotta be able to be
a little bit articulate and boom, at

669
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.719
least Daily Wire is going to hire
you or promote you. And yeah,

670
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.159
but so I wanted to bring up
we brought up earlier Elon Musk in the

671
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.800
new Ley. But I saw the
FDA approved, is it? It's a

672
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.119
I didn't I didn't look. I
just saw I was approved in human use.

673
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.199
So I don't know if that's just
for clinical trials. But I don't

674
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.440
know if either of you know anymore
you know about where that's where that stands,

675
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:30.440
what you go don do you know
about Elon and his well just what

676
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.679
I've heard, but I mean,
I you know, and again I was

677
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.960
I was accused of being naive because
I said, Okay, I support what

678
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.880
are you saying about free speech?
When he was talking about that, And

679
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.719
but you know, he's whatever little
hope I had for him left when he

680
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.199
hired the new CEO of Twitter.
It was a w e F Chair Chair

681
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.440
World Economic for him. And I'm
still waiting. I don't know if you've

682
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.559
heard Tony. I still have not
heard any comment from Tucker Carlson because he

683
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.280
I don't think it was an accident. He literally hired her the day after

684
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.360
Tucker Carlson and signed with Twitter,
and you know he you know, I

685
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.800
can't believe if Tucker Carlson has any
sincerity in him that he's happy about that,

686
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.639
because that's going to be his new
boss. He's criticized the World Economic

687
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.360
for and so and so his musk
very and if you looked on Twitter,

688
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.119
I tweeted out the musk course.
Shockingly enough, He didn't answer me,

689
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.760
but he probably it was probably ninety
nine point nine percent thousands and thousands of

690
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.519
comments saying what a chilly was and
he was a phony. He lost all

691
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.280
credibility. How could you how could
you possibly name her? She goes against

692
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.519
everything you're talking about. This is
what you were supposed to reform. Not

693
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.920
one positive comment anywhere, and I
think he maybe engaged one or two of

694
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.199
them, but that was it,
and he had no one. Let's wait

695
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.679
and see you're no, No,
that's stupid. It's but it was.

696
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.159
It was every it was every bit
as dumb and as inexplicable as when Trump

697
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.880
named Bolton or something of it.
So it's just it made no sense.

698
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:57.119
So I'm whatever, what I had
a toe on the Elon mass bond bandwagon.

699
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.000
It's it's off now, so he's
and I'm still shadow band there now,

700
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.800
so he certainly hasn't stopped shadow bands. Well, Tony, do you

701
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.360
have any thoughts on like that that? Because I right, it got approved.

702
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.840
I think just for clinic I'm assuming
clinical trials because it's not like tons

703
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.719
of people are walking around with neur
link in their brain yet. Well,

704
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.800
the FDA is the John Kerry of
the pharmaceutical industry there for before they were

705
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.880
against it. Uh you know they
remember John carry back and over. I

706
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:29.480
voted for it before I voted it
against it. I think that the FDA

707
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:31.480
just I saw a mean to the
day. It was like fun. Fact

708
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.079
every drug recalled by the FDA was
once approved by the FDA. That's pretty

709
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:43.679
fun. So what's wrong with your
mind that you need to implant something from

710
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:49.679
Elon Musk into it? Are you
really going to improve anything? Even if

711
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.440
you could? Do you want that? And now we live in an age

712
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.159
of AI and all this. I
mean, I'm almost to the point where

713
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.480
I'm like a good luck, you
know, like I just you just go

714
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.400
away, Like I don't, like, do we want to engage anymore with

715
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.039
with society, with the people that
are bracing this stuff. I think there's

716
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.199
a big chunk of just to be
serious, I think there's a big chunk

717
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.000
of people that don't want anything to
do with this, and they're not and

718
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.199
it's gonna fail and it's gonna look
like crap. AI, by the way,

719
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.639
is very satanic and it's dangerous,
but it's not gonna take over everything.

720
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:23.559
Um because eventually you have to have
humans do something like the AI chat

721
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.800
bot that was like, hey,
I'm dangerous and you should be with me

722
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.440
and not your wife like of a
box, like you know, you're done.

723
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:36.800
So it's it's you know, there's
a there's a certain level of you

724
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.639
know, we give power to these
things. And I know that's just the

725
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:42.559
headline on the headline. I'm looking
at the headline and Drudge right now it's

726
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.559
Musk is set to chip humans.
We've been We've known this for a while.

727
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:51.360
And he's the same guy he warned
Joe Rogan. I warned them against

728
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.719
the AI, and they didn't listen
to me. So I made the AI

729
00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:00.639
congratulate. And then then the next
headline they have is Trump is unstoppable.

730
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.800
I mean, like, come on, you know, like, who is

731
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:10.199
it AI running the Drudge Report?
Oh that's funny, dude. And then

732
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.800
I also, I didn't get to
why, but I saw you were on

733
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.679
David Night's show talking about gold back
crypto, which sounds I mean, so

734
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.880
I would love to hear you know, right off the bat, that sounds

735
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.480
awesome. So I would love to
hear more about that well real quick.

736
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.480
And I'm sure Don has thoughts on
this too, But Okay, so the

737
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.440
State of Texas is I mean,
through committee, they want to pass a

738
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.920
bill where the state takes their gold
and silver reserves, their bullion reserves,

739
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:44.719
and they back it. They backed
that, They back a digitized cryptocurrency run

740
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:49.079
by the State of Texas. That's
that's redeemable in gold and silver specie.

741
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:54.760
Sounds good on paper and it until
you realize that it's run by the state.

742
00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:01.639
I don't need a state run currents. See period we have whether you're

743
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:07.320
in Boston or Bangladesh, the price
of gold and silver are the same same

744
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.079
around the world. For bitcoin,
it's always been that way. We don't

745
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.320
need governments, don't need to be
in the business of currency. It's a

746
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:19.320
backdoor for tyranny, especially when you're
talking about digitized currency. I opposed this,

747
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.280
and I remember I just offered,
like reflexively, I'm like, I

748
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.360
don't like this. And the next
day I saw a podcast from Joseph P.

749
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.440
Farrell, who wrote Babylon's Banksters,
and he was like, this is

750
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:36.400
a really bad thing because because what
it is, it's a backdoor to say,

751
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.000
now here's one you can trust.
Here's run by the State of Texas.

752
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:44.199
Where they got they got a red
state because red means what communism.

753
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.000
It's so funny they always like the
red blue thing, you know, like

754
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.599
I'm gonna get a red state and
I'm like, you mean like communism,

755
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.920
Like, oh no, but you
know we're red. And I'm like,

756
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.039
I know they did that to you, and you embraced it. So I

757
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.920
look at that. I'm very skeptical
and I hope it works out. But

758
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.800
I mean to think about that Democrat
we talked about democ Don's so right about

759
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:09.239
this in Americans to have no idea
what's happened to this country? Like you

760
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:15.159
have no idea how the demographics have
changed so much. I mean, Reagan

761
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.800
won a forty eight state landslide in
nineteen eighty four, forty eight states,

762
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.719
just smash Walter Mondale. Could you
do that today? Could any candidate get

763
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:30.000
a forty eight state landslide? I
mean winning California. The demographics have changed

764
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:35.639
so in California you could never beat
the Democrat. It doesn't matter what.

765
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.119
It doesn't matter if you had the
best looking woman who was articulate and just

766
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.239
a it doesn't matter how good you
were, how good, You're gonna lose

767
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:50.039
because people are gonna push the button
because that's what demographics do. And you

768
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:57.880
don't understand, demography is destiny.
So Texas is going to change. It's

769
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.039
going to be a blue state.
I'm sorry, I didn't do it.

770
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:05.960
Greg Abbott, Yeah, you know, Greg Abbott decided I'm just gonna watch

771
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.159
this. I mean he Greg Abbott
tweeted in twenty fifteen he was like the

772
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.719
defensive line of the Cowboys was a
luck like the border. I'm like,

773
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:20.480
you're governor, yeah, Trupian very
Trumpians like this is so ridiculous, you

774
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.039
know. I'm like, yeah,
you did it. And Texas like wow,

775
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.039
I'm so glad I got Greg Abbott
and that's where that's and it's gonna

776
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.440
turn blue. And I say blue
even I'm captured by the full crumb of

777
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.199
that siop, you know, like
it's a blue state, but they're gonna

778
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.360
turn the demographically they're going there.
The Democrats know it. And it maybe

779
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:42.519
make two or three election cycles,
but it's going there. And once see

780
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.639
when I was a kid, Texas
was a blue state, but it was

781
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:49.840
blue dog like it was run by
the Democrats, and Richards was governor right,

782
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:53.119
and Richards a far cry from whatever
the hell these people are like,

783
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:57.119
I mean, I mean, you
say what you will about that. That

784
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.920
was not the same we were.
We were. Lloyd Bens was my senator,

785
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:01.800
like that, we are not the
same. You know. He was

786
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:07.960
the one that told h dan quail, right, thanks Donny dan quill.

787
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.440
He's like, you know, I
was friends with Jack Kennedy. You know

788
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.159
Jack Kennedy. So it's gonna go
So why would you hand over a currency

789
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.320
to what we know is eventually inevitably
going to be run by a leftist?

790
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.280
And I don't like it? So
that's my short that's the short version.

791
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.679
I didn't know that. Obviously,
that makes much more sense. Like how

792
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.440
so I didn't know it was run
by the government or the state. That's

793
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:35.719
very interesting. Well, I think
that Tony basically touched on this, but

794
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.000
I think that putting the gold standard
and then gold standard is still kind of

795
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:44.480
a traditional conservative view. We need
to proact the gold standard. So that

796
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:46.920
may be a way for them to
sneak the digital currency in. I mean

797
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:51.639
they may maybe if they go to
full digitalized currency, they'll somehow say we're

798
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:54.079
we're linking it to gold. You're
not gonna be able to get it unless

799
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:59.039
we approve what you know, your
tweets or your social media posts. But

800
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.679
and you know, conservatives being representing
the stupid Party. That's what we call

801
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.559
them, the stup evil Party,
the stupid party. The stupid Party has

802
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.880
never been more stupid. And you
can bet people like that that I that

803
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.679
I debate with it, that I
just kind of talked to about Trump and

804
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.400
stuff. Those people are all fall
for it. If the right conservatives,

805
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.320
you know, say oh, yeah, you know, this is a good

806
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.159
plan. Back by the gold standard, nothing to worry about. It's back

807
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.960
by the gold standard, digitalized currencies, something to worry about, doesn't matter

808
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.719
what, it's back by it.
And I would suspect that's probably why this

809
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.760
talk is going on. Aby.
They may be trying to bring on bring

810
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:37.800
on board all these conservatives and the
usual suspects that would that will go ahead

811
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.320
with the plan and do what they
always do, lose. And you know,

812
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:42.760
I say, oh, is ri, It's great, and then they'll

813
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:51.320
twiddle their thumbs and wonder what happened. Yeah, I agree, Jack,

814
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.639
you're my ex mused brother. Hm, I hit that damn button again.

815
00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:00.199
That played my old thing there?
And did you also see um that I

816
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.880
think it's called like fed now or
something like that, that transfer service.

817
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.280
Have you guys read all about well
just from what I like saw so obviously

818
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:12.920
like PayPal them all these different apps, but bank charges like three percent or

819
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.199
four percent, and I think,
I don't know if it's called fed now,

820
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.199
is it okay? Yeah? And
what that charges like point zero two

821
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:25.239
percent? And so this would put
PayPal, Venmo cash app a way out

822
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.800
of business because why would you use
this the them when you can get this

823
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.519
service and they But I didn't know
if I'm tony or done, if you

824
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.199
had done any more like is pe, Like if I was the Venmo Cash

825
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.880
App CEO, I would be glad
that I just left this my mortal coil

826
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.239
because my company is gonna go under, you know, So I don't know

827
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:49.199
if you knew any more about it. That's a it's a piggyback system for

828
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:53.360
the central bank digital currency. It's
bad. I mean, they're they're implementing

829
00:55:53.920 --> 00:56:00.519
one thing right top down. That's
why you're going to start seeing these regional

830
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.559
banks start having problems with liquidity,
and they're gonna have stress tests and they're

831
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.280
gonna have all these problems, and
they're gonna start these large banks are gonna

832
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:12.519
start buying them up. And that's
the banking crisis, all these crisis that

833
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:16.719
are used to consolidate. So FED
now is like that. It's the it's

834
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.480
the bones, the structure for the
central bank digital currency. They're running it

835
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.400
now. They used the Bank of
America, I believe in um JP Morgan

836
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:30.639
to piggyback and to run it.
It's a payment system that can go across

837
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:32.760
banking. But you know again they're
gonna like, well, we need only

838
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.440
the larger banks can handle it.
You've got about six major large banks that

839
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:38.639
run that's the too big to fail, too big to jail, and you

840
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:43.840
get about six thousand regional bank.
Okay, So they want to use FED

841
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.599
now and then again a lot of
the this is what happens. That freedom

842
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:53.480
can only exist in a decentralized system. Freedom cannot exist from a top down

843
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:58.400
thing. It just is debt,
debt on arrival. So be on the

844
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.519
lookout for that. I agree with
you. I mean, I like cash

845
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.000
app, UM, I use cash
app all the time. I love bitcoin.

846
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.519
You know, I'm a golden silver
guy. I have a golden silver

847
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:12.039
business is what I do. UM, And I like decentral is that I

848
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.320
had. You know, I love
it when people can get together and we

849
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.280
can just you know, like I
had a guy come in to day it's

850
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:21.440
I needed some bitcoin. I didn't
know he was gonna buy something with I

851
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:24.400
had had a nineteen o eight twenty
dollars gold pieces worth about twenty two hundred

852
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:28.719
bucks. I sold him to him
first bitcoin, just to straight trade over

853
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:32.280
the counting boom? What bank was
involved? There? Nothing, you know,

854
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.480
because we're free on the earth to
do so that's we should be doing

855
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.840
that, you know. So No, I don't support any of this stuff.

856
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:45.599
I mean the creature from Jekyl Island
read it well doing and that.

857
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:49.760
But that was my one question about
this is why would Visa? Why would

858
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:54.559
all these billion dollar companies allow that? Because they're gonna lose billions? Right?

859
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:59.920
I mean everybody that uses these services? Is it because they're so InterLAN

860
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.119
that doesn't matter? Is that?
Why? Like? Why why would they

861
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.480
let this go through? Does that
make sense? When I'm when I'm asking

862
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.599
me and Don wrote The Survival of
the Richest? Ye? What I mean?

863
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.920
Why why would why would why would
bud Lake try to destroy their business?

864
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.159
Why was was Disney doing it?
They're bigger agendas, you know.

865
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:20.960
And again I I can't stress enough
that these it's it's not always a bad

866
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.360
profits. And I don't know.
I think there's a black hole where the

867
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.280
intelligence budgets are. I suspect that
a lot of these companies get funds we

868
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.079
don't even know about. They get
stuff under the table because it doesn't mean

869
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:36.320
because they really are greedy, they
do want profits, so it goes against

870
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:38.599
their instincts to do these these kinds
of things. But the fact that they

871
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:43.360
do it so willingly and they double
down on it, they don't care.

872
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:45.119
They don't care. It doesn't matter
you lost ninety percent, I don't care.

873
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:50.039
They'll just double down. That's not
that's not supposed to be the capitalist

874
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:53.000
mine, right, So I think
they're probably getting some kind of payoffs under

875
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.800
the table through you know, again
we don't we don't know where a lot

876
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.679
of the money in our in our
budget goes, including the still top secret

877
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.760
intelligence agency budgets, and nobody seems
to want to make them public. I

878
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.519
don't know why, but I mean, and that's probably where they pay the

879
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.119
hit squad too, the people that
kills whistleblowers. You know, that's where

880
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.920
probably where the body counts bad.
They probably have a hit squad that's there

881
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:19.599
somewhere, but yeah, you know, so it's it doesn't None of this

882
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:23.360
really surprises me because I wouldn't expect
them to balk in it, because again,

883
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:28.119
corporate America is I think Tony kind
of alluded to earlier. There aren't

884
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.840
any conservatives and the corporate world used
to be a vast end of conservatism.

885
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:36.079
They're they're more woke than the government
now, so they're on board with with

886
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:38.199
whatever. If this is the new
thing that we're pushing it, Oh yeah,

887
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:42.239
cool, we'll go for it.
And again I think they're probably paid

888
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.199
off onto the table, But yeah, I don't. I don't think you'll

889
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.280
see any fight there. And they'll
sell it to the people, and people

890
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.360
will people it's like to go to
self checkout counters or anything else if they

891
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:55.559
think there's a little convenience or in
this case, that they're saving a little

892
00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:00.320
money, you know why paying three
percent instead of zero two percent? They

893
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.639
don't necessarily who care who they're paying
it to. So I think it will

894
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.880
be a smashing success if you know, if they decide to do it.

895
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:12.159
Oh, I think you're yeah,
that's a great, great answer. And

896
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.400
then my last, my last time. I don't know if you guys,

897
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:19.079
so I keep seeing obviously more and
more craziness keeps happening, false flags,

898
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.719
all these you know, trauma everywhere. And I saw though, what like

899
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:30.079
sixty thousand tons of ammonium nitrate when
missing in California. I mean, you

900
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.519
know, I it's not I don't
put it past the government to losing trillions

901
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.039
or tons of anything. You know, they have those that ability, they're

902
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.039
they're so in f But I didn't
know if you guys thought that this was

903
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:45.880
maybe to play to a larger or
it's in play for something significant with this

904
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:50.599
missing ammonium nitrate. So Tony,
I don't know if you had any any

905
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:52.679
thoughts on or maybe you have it, maybe it's in your gold shop.

906
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:01.320
No, that would make me a
fit. That would be that would be

907
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:06.239
confirmation that I'm Michel and I'm a
fed um. You know, there's a

908
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:10.119
reason why the government has a term
for a lost nuclear weapon. It's called

909
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:15.199
a broken arrow, because they've lost
them, right, there's a reason that

910
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.280
you have to have a term for
it. I mean, it's literally a

911
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.320
term. It's called a broken arrow. So I didn't know that yes,

912
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.440
lost nukes. Um, so yeah, I saw that story. It's it's

913
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.800
concerning. It's almost like they you
know, they advertise it. Oh like

914
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:37.639
here's a blurt, you know,
enough to do some real damage and God

915
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.559
forbid you know. Um and Don's
done great work. If you read,

916
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:44.280
go folks, go get Hidden History. If you don't know Gon's work,

917
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.199
go get it, go get the
book. He's got new stuff coming out.

918
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:47.920
So he's got a new book out. We need to talk about that.

919
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:52.519
Don't make sure you plug that down. Oh I will definitely will you

920
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:58.039
know I think that, Uh,
but we definitely got you look at Oklahoma

921
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.519
City, you know that's that's where
you get to the people became familiar with.

922
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:07.480
Oh, fertilizer will blow up?
Yeah, you know, sure will.

923
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:14.480
Um and they lost what sixty thousand
pounds of it? Yeah something like

924
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:22.440
that thirty Yeah, sixty thousand pounds
so um enough to do some enough to

925
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:29.519
you know, you're gonna need a
few rider trucks and you'll you'll you'll need

926
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:34.559
uh. The what they have the
worst black white supremacists that I've ever seen

927
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:36.920
lately. Like the guy is the
White House. He's like he's got a

928
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:44.679
Nazi flag look at this white supremacist. Just they his white supremacy. It's

929
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:45.760
like the Proud Boys. I'm like, I had the one of the Proud

930
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.199
Boys on my show back, you
know long, but they don't talk to

931
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.920
many of them anymore. But I
was like, you guys are the worst

932
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:53.599
white supremacist. I haven't talked to
a white guy yet. You know,

933
01:02:55.599 --> 01:03:00.199
everything's supposed to be white supremacists,
but you never actually meet a white one.

934
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.559
Yeah. Well, when when they
talk about something like that, just

935
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:07.840
I don't know much about the story
other than it just strikes me again as

936
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.000
more fear porn, because if they
see the general public can kind of put

937
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.000
two and two together and say,
oh, something bad could happen there,

938
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.960
you know, they could make bombs
with it or whatever. And can you

939
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.440
lose? And how did they even
explain? How how did it get lost?

940
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.559
I mean who lost it? Where
did it go? I mean these

941
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:29.199
are the questions that nobody asked.
It's just well, you know they've they'll

942
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.079
just parrot it and they'll leave it
out there hanging like the other fear porn,

943
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:36.920
just like you came out of China
the other day that there's new pandemic

944
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.559
on the way that may kill as
many of sixty five millions. Like so,

945
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.519
this is just barely gonna be an
endless series of pandemics, even though

946
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.199
we want one hundred years without one. And now it's just going to be

947
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:51.039
nonsense. So it's it's they.
They've the conspirators, the people that run

948
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:55.239
things, have seen that nothing works
like fear, and they're just stepping up

949
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.840
the fear all the time. You
know, they're kind we need to redo

950
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:04.840
FDRs. Expression is because today's Americans
have can do nothing else but fear,

951
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.960
fear of fear itself all the time. That's what they're doing. They're in

952
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:12.360
fear constantly, and that's throwing it
out there. So I would suspect that's

953
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.559
what that story is. That's I
think that's that's totally bad. Yeah,

954
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.159
so I think it's a perfect sague. Since you brought up the child,

955
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:23.800
the new thing that's going to kill
everybody, don you You just released a

956
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:27.320
book, so tell plug it,
tell everybody about it. You were nice

957
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:30.239
enough to send me a copy,
so yeah, yeah, well it's a

958
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:32.800
well, I don't have any hard
copies. I was sending you guys pds,

959
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.199
but I don't even have one myself. Yet, but it's um It's

960
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:42.000
called Masking the Truth How COVID nineteen
destroyed civil liberties and shut down the world.

961
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.119
It's gott a forward by doctor Sherry
Tenpenny. Uh. It's it's the

962
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:47.159
first book. And there have been
other good books, like you know,

963
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:54.800
Naomi Wolf's Bodies of Others and Peter
McCullough's book, and Alex Barrens and Bobby

964
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.800
Kennedy Junior's book about Faucci. There's
been other books, but this is the

965
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:01.159
first one that tell us the whole
story from beginning to end. And I

966
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.840
go way down the rabbit hole.
I'll hold back. I talk about the

967
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:09.960
empty hospitals. I talk about the
freezer trucks that were you know, videotaped

968
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:13.960
is all being off when there's buzzy
containing much advice. I talk about the

969
01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:17.920
dancing nurses in their choreography. You
can't forget those things. They're incredible lies.

970
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.719
I have all the statistics in there
about how they lie from the very

971
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:26.119
beginning, going back to Italy and
how the Italian newspaper quietly reported, are

972
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:29.960
these thousands of deaths that were happening
that you've been filling the people with theory

973
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.119
will actually of them were from other
causes, so and those kind of things

974
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.920
are and so I think my book
is the first one that's going to have

975
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.159
that, and I don't go into
the Republican area. The conservative response has

976
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.400
been to talk about the China,
China, and the leak from the Wuhan

977
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:50.800
lab, and certainly some Frankenstein type
things going on in the Wuhan lab,

978
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:56.599
but releasing a bioweapon was in one
of them. The bioweapon is the vaccine,

979
01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:00.360
and people needed there. It's like
a magician. They're distracting them with

980
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.000
COVID whatever it is. As I
point out in there, they've never proven

981
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:08.119
COVID nineteen exist, and the government
tells you that they can't isolate it.

982
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:12.840
So until they prove it exist,
I'm going to assume it's the regular coronavirus,

983
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.239
and it's the flu, and it's
all these other causes. They falsely

984
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.960
attributed death to COVID, and then
when they brought the vaccine out, then

985
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:23.400
they go into the other cover up
mode and start covering up the amount of

986
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:27.559
deaths and injuries caused by the vaccine. So I think people, especially on

987
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.800
the right, they're the ones that
are skeptical or finally got fed up with

988
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.400
the lockdown and everything. But again
they're distracting you. They're looking in the

989
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:39.679
wrong direction. It's not China's fault. Everybody was on board this, Bill

990
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.119
Gates isn't from China. You know, Trump wasn't from China, Biden's not

991
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:45.840
from China, Fallacies not from China. The whl all that, that's who

992
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.800
the culprits are. And people will
read how this started back in two thousand

993
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.880
and one with the Dark Winter exercises. I would give too much away of

994
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.960
it, but this was something they
planned for. They talked about it,

995
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.079
and you can see how right down
to what they were practicing over and over

996
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:05.079
again. And the last one was
a gender two oh one, right before

997
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:11.000
the pandemic hit in October of twenty
nineteen, which Bill Gates, who w

998
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:15.719
ef all these usual suspects were involved, and they were planning on what would

999
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.079
happen if a virus and and almost
all the exercise of the virus came out

1000
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:23.480
of China, and uh, and
how would we develop a vaccine to compound

1001
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.440
it to combat it. So amazing
that they knew this back in two thousand

1002
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.239
and one, when you know the
santis Fluids nineteen eighteen. So get the

1003
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:33.039
book. It's easy you go to
Please go to substack. If you don't

1004
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:38.519
support me on substackers subscribe there Donald
Jefferies dot substack dot com. So I'll

1005
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:43.039
call it that protest. It's like
my show. I advertised it yesterday and

1006
01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:45.199
I have the length there where you
can go buy it now. It'll be

1007
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:46.679
everywhere, up everywhere in a couple
of weeks, but right now, if

1008
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you buy it at that length,
the publisher I'll get a bigger cut of

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the of the profits. So people
want to help me, that's uh,

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that would be great. And again
it's just it's you. You'll you'll get

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all the information sit in one book, everything you've probably forgotten. I'll post

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the link in the show notes once
once are done, so I'll post that

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for everybody so we can we can
So where where I think you kind of

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already said, don but where can
people find you all those all those good

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things. Well again, my website
is Donald Jeffrey's dot media, but I

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stress I substack the most Donald Jefferies
dot substack dot com because it's the only

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place where I'm growing, and I
am growing there getting more and more subscribers

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because everywhere else in Shadow band good
and Tony where can where can the people

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find you the strongest guy in podcasting? And you can find me. My

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website is Arderburn dot news is my
last name dot news and you can contact

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me there and get links to my
shows all that good stuff. And then

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I also run a golden silver business. It's called wise Wolf, and I've

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been telling people We've got hundreds of
members all over the country. Now I've

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got Wolfpack, So go check out
wolf Pack. It's a membership program.

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I buy your medals for you,
set it and forget it. You can

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cancel it anytime, but it's it's
all automatic, and I find him for

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you get a detailed invoice. We're
growing every day, so the more people

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to join, the better deals everybody
gets. And I opened up a second

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shop in North Texas. I'm in
Branson, Missouri right now. I opened

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up a second shop to get more
supply. So go check out Wolfpack.

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You. I have a very little
cancelation it's almost nothing. It's only people

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cancel they don't like, they don't
want to, they run, they don't

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have money anymore, or something cut
on the budget. But it's never I

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don't like this. It's it's like, oh this is really cool. It's

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it's a new thing every month that
you get and we find it for you.

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So go check out. Dude.
That's great. Well, guys,

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thanks for coming on a Friday night. I know, you know, I'm

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We're I'm I act like an old
person, so I know Fridays are a

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party night. So thanks for joining
us and the people in the chat.

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And I'm Jack Allen at Cojack Podcast. Thanks for listening to everybody. Have

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a good weekend and happy Moorial Day. Thanks all right, well, thanks guy,