What is going on? Everyone? Welcome to another episode of conspiracy or just
a coincidence? I am Jack Allen. First, just go follow me at
Cojack Podcast, and that's where you can find me everywhere. But tonight,
I've got two heavy hitters in the truth world. Very excited, Don and
Tony. Don Jeffries, thanks for coming, buddy. How are you doing
today? Wonderful. It's always great to be with you, Jack, and
it's especially great to be with the incredible Tony Hartburn. And I'm the perfect
intro Tony. Thank you. What's going on? How's life? A life
is good? I'm still here. I'm still alive and I was able to
keep my business afloat and do podcast and talk to Don Jeffries, talk to
Jack Allen. I mean, what's there to complaint about? I love it,
dude, I love it. Well. First, I just wanted to
so I wanted to start with this top because every time I see rfkat Annie
Kennedy when I'm reading in the news whatever, there's one man that immediately comes
to mind, not Kennedy, and that's Don Jeffries. So I wanted your
take Don, as you know a Kennedy extraordinair. What your thoughts were with
RFK and he is officially running right, He threw like he is he yeah,
okay, so yeah, so I wanted to your thoughts, your thoughts
on him. Well, uh, you know, as I've said many times,
I've told you before Air, I I'm biased, and I know I'm
probably naive or people tell me I'm naive. You know, I believe in
these you know, I kind of I get fooled by Tucker Carlson and you
know, so I'm looking for hope like everybody is. But I don't pretend
to look at this rationally. Bobby Kennedy his father. I was a little
kid, and that's when I first became interested in politics. I followed the
primaries. I started understanding the political process a little bit. With his dad.
He was a very romantic campaign and you know, he had a big
poster that everybody had. It was him on the beach with his dog,
you know, and he just really he was There was something about him that
really lit a spark and me. And when he was assassinated, it just
crushed me. You know, it just it just took the sales out.
I mean I didn't really associate it yet with any kind even with his brother's
death. But I know it had a huge impact on me. So when
you see somebody like this Bobby Kennedy Junior, same name, looks very much
like him and is talking about way more radical stuff than his dad did.
Now, whether he means that, you know, Tony and Billy Ray and
I've talked about. You know, he's got some very problematic quotes in the
past about climate change, but wanting to throw people in jail and all that.
So I hope he's evolved from that. I hope. And but he's
you know, on some of the things that David Knight talks about, whether
he's talking about the santis or or RFK Junior or whatever. He sounds great
on a lot of issues. I mean, he realized what do we have?
I mean, if you can get somebody, That's what the appeal to
Trump was for me. Immigration, I really care about the other stuff.
So if they're really good on an important issue, Bobby is really good about
I think the suppression of subliberties and what COVID did in the lockdown and the
vaccines and all that. And he's very good on foreign policy too. He's
talking about the neo con foreign policy and we've got to stop engaging everywhere else,
so you know, on those and of course he's most importantly he's the
first presidential candidate in history that is coming out and saying there was a conspiracy,
saying the CIA did it. He's basically and the government killed his uncle
and his father. So you can't ask for much more than that from the
political candidates we get. And I'm shocked that he's at twenty or percent more
in the polls because I figured they would use these polls like they did at
Dennisk Descentach and my friend Cynthia McKinney had just claimed there are one percent,
So I don't know. That kind of makes me wondering maybe they have some
plans for him. I don't know, because they're not holding him at the
one percent level. Because I have a hard time believe he's polling at twenty
percent in today's Democratic Party, to tell you the truth, you know,
because I don't know who agrees in there. So we'll see what happens.
But right now, you know, just that's cautiously optimistic. But he's however
you look at it, he's going to make the campaign a lot more interesting.
Oh, I like Tony any what are your thoughts on is RFKR guy?
Is he going to come in? Well? I think we've should learn
a lot of lessons from the Trump arrows that one person, a man or
a woman, can't be the solution, and Washington really isn't a solution.
But I agree with Don on so much of this. And if you know
your history, you look at the Kennedy family, especially RFK um There's a
reason why Henry Kissinger is a hundred and the Kennedy's are dead. Okay,
I mean they stood for something. I mean, thank God for the Kennedy
brothers. If you know anything about the Cuban missile crisis, I mean they
stood in the breach of all the advice from Dean Atchison, kurliss LeMay,
and they had they had all these they brought it. I mean Dean Atchison
was the Secretary of State under Truman. They brought him back to say what
would you do? It was all air strikes followed by invasion, the Cuban
missile crisis that would have started World War three, and that it was the
Kennedy brothers. And of course it was RFK who went in with the Soviet
ambassador and they had a back channel communicate with Cruise Chiff to trade the Jupiter
missiles in Turkey that were about to expire. They weren't really useful, but
they were still nuclear weapons that we had in Turkey. It's kind of like,
you know, we do this with NATO now, like, well,
why don't you mind us being right on your border? We wouldn't stand for
it either, And I think if you look at the history, there's a
reason why. And you know RFK Jr. Says out in the open,
which I think this is one. This is a great thing to have.
I don't care. I don't know where he is on life. I don't
know where he is on the Second Amendment. But God blessed him for talking
about things like the JAB and talking about foreign policy and talking he was went
out, it was in the it was a great speech at the Bitcoin conference.
I thought that was magnificent. And he addressed the environmental issues of it.
He's addressed the individual sovereignty issues. So he's really strong. It's great
to see that. But they're gonna hack him. I think that no matter
how this stacks up, he's the He's the best person running right now.
Yeah, hands down, Like far and away. I know that we'll get
into you know, the Trump the Santist thing. But I'm watching. I'm
watching RFK JR. Truly because I think he has a lot of great things
to say, and I would I would. I think he's a genuine human
being who's standing up against them, the deep state, the the continuity of
corruption. It has ruled this country for decades now. UM So I think
it's positive. Will I be voting, Will I be out canvassing? No,
I won't. I won't be doing any of that. Um I've given
up on that process for national candidates. But I'd love to see it.
You know, I'd love to see a Ron Paul type. I don't know
who that would be other than Ron Paul, but I'd love to see somebody
like that. I just think it's wonderful when you when you inject real issues
into debate. And I think that's something that Ron Paul showed us, I
mean, and Trump showed us. Unfortunately he didn't, he didn't mean it,
but it was it was too People want to hear the issues, you
just don't get to see them. The you know, the donor class for
both parties doesn't want any of these talking points, so you just stay on
surface level issues like Democrats are bad, right or something like that. Right,
not really anything good, But RFK, He's coming out and I love
to see it. I'm a fan. Well, who do you think would
be? But either one of you, like who would vote for him?
That's where I keep like thinking about, like, who's voting for this?
Do you know what I mean? Well? I think I think you know
him him running as a Democrat. I think he's kind of still living in
nineteen sixty eight because the Democratic Party has moved so much that I would imagine
he will get a lot of Trump voters. I think more than that,
I think, but I don't. I don't know a lot of them are
so loyal to Trump. But Trump has also lost a lot, and I'm
not sure about the Santis. You know, some of them seemed to like
him, and others are swayed by Trump's you know, juvenile name calling and
stuff like that, whereas you know, I think it's pretty stupid. But
uh so, Yeah, I think he's he's gonna draw from and I think
all firstly, he's the only candidate in town. For those of us that
are skeptical about the vaccine. You're certainly not gonna vote for Trump, who's
bragging about it, Biden and any other Democrat And uh, well the Santis
Santa says it was was good about the lockdowns. I guess he said some
things about it, but I don't think he's ever questioned the vaccine. So
I think mostly independent voters will be going after I F. Kenned Joan and
maybe there's some old line Democrats that will be swayed by just the Kennedy name
and they'll it'll bring back nostalgia. That's another Robert F. Kennedy. Interesting.
Yeah, Tony, you that's like what I just don't even if you
know whether elections are legitimate, you have such I mean, you've watched on
Twitter. You have this Trump versus the Santis, and you certain figure is
probably being paid by both sides defending one or attacking the other. I just
I don't know it's gonna be I feel like no one's even such a our
like our little community pay attentions to to OURFK. We like what he says,
but beyond that, um and I just it's like it's such a small
group, but it's gonna be really tough for him. They already circling the
wagons around Biden saying they're not even gonna have debates, They're not gonna open
up the primary is to the process. How undemocratic is so funny? Like
remember the number of twenty sixteen. They're like, oh, no, Bernie
didn't win because I have super delegates. Right, you may have gotten more
votes, but I have super duper delgates. Like you don't even know.
It's just a mockery of everything that we hold dear or when we perceive as
the United States of America is these two parties, these disgusting entities, these
parasites that are killing us. And they're like, who do you like?
You know, like Bill's a bubb or Satan. I'm like, I don't
like the one. I don't know you like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy.
I don't like it. I don't like either one. I think he's gonna
have a hard time in the party system. You know, And there's so
many laws. People don't realize this too. There's laws in certain states like
Texas. Here's something you probably didn't know. If you vote in the primary
of a party, if you take part in any way in a primary of
either party, you cannot run is a candidate, you cannot run as an
independent candidate. Later, what do you mean? So if you vote,
like if you voted a minute, or you vote at all, in any
party, you cannot take part and you cannot run as an independent candidate.
And Texas thing, So that's just Texas. Imagine what all these other states
have that rigged against the individual so like just to just get ballot access.
That's why Perot was so important in ninety two. He kind of came out
of nowhere. He shook up the political process. He had a big enough
name, he had a big enough bank roll, and he was able to
shake it up. I was I mean, I was the first political paper
I ever wrote. Like I was twelve years old. I remember I talked
about this the other night. My stepmother thought that my dad wrote it.
It's like, why would you do that? I would you write his paper?
I was like, Oh, I was interested. I was twelve years
brow and he was shaking things up. I thought it was great. Yeah,
he would need to do something like that. It would need to in
order to really change anything, we have to leave the parties. I'm sorry,
it has to do. I mean, if you really want to make
chance, you have to leave the parties. You have to and it's gonna
be You're not gonna win at first. It's gonna take. But I think
we need to fracture it, you know that. You know the Kennedy I
mean JFK said to take the CIA and smash it into a thousand pieces and
scatter it to win. Same thing with the political process. Interesting, Yeah,
yeah, I totally totally agree. It's just I would look like I
guess I every four years, I just I think don I were talking about
before. I know, everyone's so corrupt and they're they're these you know,
backstabbing people, they're hypocrites. But each four years where I'm like, man,
maybe maybe I know it's a very small chance, but maybe this person
is gonna even like Trump, I think I see, you know, I'm
like, I find myself gravitating towards Trump because this propaganda is so good at
bringing bringing you back or giving you hope. Or maybe it's me that's refusing
to let go of hope that somebody we can vote in to change us for
the better. But I don't know, well Trump Trump is and I was
at our friend, Vince Agnelli. Tony knows very well. I had we
had our weekly or monthly lunch. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
sorry, sorry sorry sorry sorry about that. I hit my like thing there.
Sorry about that. Sorry, don continue, No, no problem,
I said the Vince Agnelli and I am good friend. Tony knows that met
through our you know, him being on David Night showing me being on there.
Um, we have a lunch together every month. And uh, most
of the guy as he's with her, very right wing. Most probably at
least half of them still support Trump. Of course Vince doesn't. But I
was I don't debate him too much, but this guy, I was just
saying, you know, I really admire your face, man. I mean,
because he's saying all the things about you know, this time he comes
back, it's going to be different everything. I said, I have to
admire your faith. I try to say something positive because because at that point
you have to because Trump Trump Trump could get me back constantly. You know,
even before the vaccine, he could say something really great or and I
thought, well, maybe he's finally gonna do something, you know, And
but you know, after he left the office, and he didn't depart in
the songs, and then he's bragging about the vaccine. I don't know how
he sells anybody on anything at this point, but he's still got millions of
people that are loyal to him. Dude. I mean, on Twitter,
it's a bad I'm sure you see it's you know, I live on Twitter,
but I see people that I like right wing counts that six months ago
would never didn't pick a side, and you obviously someone's paying their paycheck because
it's just a bad that. You know, every statement action, it's like,
oh, this is why you know Desantists is better, this is why
Trump is better. It's do you think it's I mean, I don't know
if this meant but isn't this going to destroy Desantist is? Like why do
you think he's even running it? I don't understand. It seems like it's
just creating conflict in the the GOP. That doesn't seem If I was the
king of the GOP, i'd say not the time, like next, you
know, keep running Florida. Um, but its like, do you think
it's just their personalities or what is it? Tony? You want me to
go, well, well, yeah, I would just say quickly that I
think that, you know, DeSantis again, like David Night, I feel
the same way about him as I do. He's he's got a lot of
obviously troubling aspects. He's he's even more devoted to Israel than Trump is.
But so you have no choice there. Uh, you know, he wants
to sign that law about basically making it a crime or something to be anti
Semitic. It's very troubling Ledgislason there in Florida. But on the other hand,
he is he seems to have done some things unlike Trump. He seems
to have like done some things to combat critical race theory and transgenderism propaganda in
schools. He has gone against the lockdown most of the time, and at
least initially he was on record as saying we shouldn't be involved in you know,
the Ukraine nonsense, but then he seemed to backtrack the day or two
later or something. So is any good? I don't know. Somebody put
a gun to my head and I thought they were counting the votes I would
vote, and I had to vote for somebody, I would vote for him
over you know, any of the Democrats step rfk Jr. But he's you
know, he actually has a better track record of having done things rather than
Trump. Trump has never done anything except tweet. He says more radical stuff.
But then you have, you know, supposedly Jeff Bush backs him.
I don't know if that's true or not. Tony would probably know that or
not. So it's troubling when people like that. BACU. But and I
certainly don't trust him. But you know, like I said, we don't
think they're counting the votes anyway. Although I will say the more I want
to look around the people and Billy Ray and it doesn't he seems pretty skeptical
about how much fraud there was in the twenty twenty election. But I think
again that's because how it feels about Trump largely. But you know, I
think that they don't need to engage in much massive fraud anymore. Again,
if you just look at I look at my neighbors. I look at the
people, and I see the Democratic signs in their yards and I don't see
it. I mean, I see the people driving around with masks on and
nobody in their car. You know, these people that look at the crazy
TikTok teachers, the transgenders themselves, the pussy hat wearers, they're voting for
somebody? Who are they voting for? So I I don't think they need.
I do think they robbed Carry Lake in Arizona. I do think there
was some fraud there, but I don't think. You know, they don't
have to do much, and they wouldn't have to do much to tip the
election, for instance, to try. I think Trump did probably win the
twenty twenty election, but he would never win in a landslide because half the
country is divided and half the country hates him. So that's what's crazy that
people, the Republicans are still living in it. They think this is like
the Reagan years or something that because of your open border policy, the demographics
have changed. You're never going to have that again. So now you're outnumbered,
so they don't need. They may eventually just say, yeah, you
know, we're actually gonna let them vote because they know they know these people
are gonna vote Tony. What do you? What do you? I know
we kind of change to that was my changes to Trump and disantist. But
why why why are they both running? They I thought they were like friends.
What's what's the point of us? Well, you can't make money if
you stay home, right, there's a whole host of things that can happen
when you run for president. I mean, you get to you could pick
up a certain amount of delegates, makes you a power player. Maybe you
don't maybe you don't know that you can be president, but you think maybe
you could be Secretary of State, or you could be head of the UN
or not the ambassador of the UN. You could be a number of things.
I mean, remember Rick Perry, he couldn't remember the three agencies he
wanted to cut, but one of them was the Department of Energy, and
Trump made him the head of the Department of Energy. Right, there's the
things that you get sometimes when you run. So I think, uh,
it is kind of a weird that the Santis. Of course it doesn't.
I mean Ted Cruz was backed by the Bushes, you know in Texas,
like, oh, Ted Cruiz, he's a lie. He's a great guy.
You know, he's so he party esque and all this, and you
know he's a he's a bush guy. You know, they really fool values
voters. And it's funny because nothing ever changes. I was talking about this
today on my show. I mean, we have Greg Abbott in Texas and
Greg Abbott thinks it's very strong, very strong rock Red State Republicans, which
all other issue with Red State. But he's he ships people from that are
you know, apprehended at the border. He puts them on a bus and
sends him to a sanctuary city. Well you could secure the border, you
know, like, you know, we all live here in this country.
That you're sending people that are I mean, and and people from Texas like,
oh he's strong on the border really got my back and I think we
have lost all equalibering and accountability. There was a back in there's a little
known don knows this, I know, but two thousand and seven ish,
somewhere in there, there was a big push for a North American union.
They were going to run the NAFTA super highway, the Trans Texas Corridor was
gonna be cut through Texas condo. Lisa Rice went out to I think it
was Baylor and spoke there. They talked about the union of Mexico and Canada
and all this stuff. Well, Texans, there was a last gasp of
demographics of people left over like blue dog Democrats, and I mean, there
was a whole host. Now those people are passed away. Unfortunately, a
big chunk of them are gone. Yeah, but they had to play kate
to them, so you had a pale face. George W. Bush go
in front of the country and was like, we're gonna put a fans on
the border. You know. He was, now I'm gonna, I'm president,
We're gonna do and Hillary Clinton voted for it. So they kind of
quashed that that demographic is gone. I've never heard that phrase called blue blue
blue dog. Yeah, blue dog. Didn't say. My friend Congressman Ralph
Hall, I was another thing I was gonna say. I was friends with
Congressman Ralph Hall. Have got his Hall for Congress up here above my I
ran against him. We got to be really good friends. And he told
me one day we were talking. He goes, you know, Tony,
I've looked in the mirror every morning for ninety He was ninety ninety years old,
and he goes, I've never seen a president and this is a guy.
He put Ronald Reagan on hold, by the way, he like he
wanted to always do. Ronald Reagan called him on the phone when he was
congressman. He said, put him on hold. I want him say that
I did it. And so he had a real sense of humor. But
he's like I would he goes, I gotta I can't can't imagine running for
presidents. You gotta think of the ego that you have. So, I
mean we already know Trump right, he's a deeply wounded narcissist, as Tay
cob As his former lawyer said, um, but you know de Santis Harvard
Yale. See the thing is I'm with Don like if you said, okay,
you know it's Kamala Harris or or Rhonda Santists or it's an even nicky
Haley, because I'd be like, oh, you know that war. I
mean just like needs war, like to survive. I don't know if it's
like there's a ticking time but somewhere like she's gonna expire if they doesn't have
a war. But I don't trust Rohnda Santists on war. I don't trust
him on on the politics that matter to me, or like ending the American
Empire, restoring our fiscal accountability, restoring our sanity, restoring checks and balances.
I just see an extension of the Bush dynasty. I mean, we
cheer people like Rohn decentists too, because he did his job like and that's
no one does that anymore. So it's like the bar is so low,
yes, like you're like, yeah, we're just I mean, look at
the Christian rights hero is Elon Musk, a guy who wants to implant the
internet into your head, who does not, who wears the costume of Baphomet,
and he Novus orders the chlorum on the back of his mean, that's
the hero of the Christian right now. And I just I have to get
off this train. It's like I don't know where I belong. I know
that I'm making I which you know in your life back about paychecks the conservatives,
there's and you mentioned Abbott, and I try to tell people this all
the time when they and I think, what that guy that love Trump was
giving me the same argument here all the time for conservatives, Well he can
he doesn't have the authority to put the border to put the border prol out
there, and said, well wait a minute, what happened? And when
Desantist pulled his very entertaining stunt of you know, sending the migrants to at
Martha's vineyard, and it was entertaining as hell. It was great, We've
just revealed what we already knew how horrible hypocrites these people are. What did
they stay there tony two three hours at the most. And that Governor Boston,
who's a Republican or Rhino, he had he had the National Guard out
or what and they were gone within a couple hours. Now why could he
do that? And yet the governor of Texas, I mean that they had
to put up with a small group of migrants for a couple of hours.
These people, these people on the Texas Board, if you saw some of
the videos, just wrote a story for American Free Press. I was shocked
at the pollution and trash that is accumulated there and the fact Grenna Thundberg.
Wherever you are, if you're listening to the show, maybe some of your
environmental activists should be concerned about with the damage to the ecosystems down there.
They're making it so that animals can't nest. They're polluting the water and the
ground. You should see some of those videos he took it. It's on
dirty diapers, clothes, everywhere it's and it's it's like three and four layers
thick all around, like the busiest spots, spots where they cross over,
and we're doing nothing about it. And Abbott, it's unconstable that his stunt
is to say, well, I'm going to keep shipping them to other areas
of the country like and okay, it was entertaining once, but why don't
you ship them back to Mexico? And again, why don't Why can't you
have the best Why can't you do the same thing the governor of Boston did
you have to be live in Martha's Vineyard to be able to get the National
Guard out? So those people want to conservatives say it isn't an authority.
Why did the governor of Massachusetts have that? And but that's that's what the
Republicans. They want to have a consistent no action policy. That's been basically
their their plan forever. They don't do anything. They just CounterPunch very ineffectively.
But at some point you have to. If you listen to my show
today Atony Telly, I'm having more and more of these people that are on,
you know, talking about what Chop Protective Services and local government has done
taken their kids. It's horrible what they're doing. Where are the Christian ministers,
where the pastors the big churches? Why aren't they protesting this? And
I said, the transgender activist. They get way more support from their fraction
of a populace. They'll have tons of activists out there willing to fight to
the death for their right to use whatever pronouns they want. Where are the
Christian pastures, or for the right for people to not have their kids stolen
from the government because their homeschooling, you're not getting vaccinated, or because some
stupid neighbor or a relative or a doctor in this case, you know,
it says one of your kids looks a little too skinny. It's happening all
the time. And they tried. If you're listening, Tony, they got
two of the best, I would say in Congress in Kentucky, Rand Paul
and Thomas Matthew. I think he's probably the best congressmen out there. They
tried to get them involved and they didn't do anything. So there's you know,
as long as you don't do anything, that's why we're in this situation.
We're in the other side does things. They are activists, and our
side, if you want to call it our side, because I've been driven
over into the right, they're just completely ineffective and they don't do anything,
and they just they just sit there and you know, tweet and and keep
saying we'll vote harder next time. And that's you know, that's obviously that
working. Don do you think, I mean, I agree with I never
see I see tons of left everywhere. I mean anytime they have they filled
that protest out and we only get the groups of like a Patriot Front or
um, you know, some other neo Nazi group that's probably infiltrated eye hell.
But do you think maybe it's also has to do with the perception media
obviously is going to promote these the causes that they deemed worthy. So if
there was a ant I'm just anti abortion protest, that's not going to get
as much coverage as a put even if there was a lot of people,
they're going to focus on the other side. Do you think that could be
also, Yeah, they would, but if you get enough people. And
again obviously this was the other side, but it was a much more conservative
country back in the early nineteen sixties, and the civil rights movement was driven
agally through the black churches. Reverend Martin Luther King and Reverend Ralph Abernathy,
the leaders are well, Jesse Jackson's not really a reverend they calls himself that,
but most of them were so. And you had black churches leading the
marches, leading to sit in so all that. Where are they? I
mean as far as abortion, I mean, I remember back when Catholics priests
used to march in pro life marches. I don't think any of them do
anymore. But where are they stopping the transgender nonsense? There there? Or
critical race theory, anything that the ridiculous schoolbooks that they're making little kids read
about, you know, graphic sex acts between grown men and little boys.
Where are they they They're not anywhere, and they're they're just they don't do
anything instead you And this is where Joel Ostein and people like that, if
they have anounced of sincerity and I'm which I don't think they do, but
they could prove it by using some of their millions to organize some efforts.
And certainly you think they couldn't draw a crowd to one of these protests.
Let's have an anti trans let's have a back to sanity, you know,
there are only two genders march or something like that. There's millions of Christians
and if you had effective leaders, but these these leaders are pathetic. Most
of them are into for the money. If they really care about these issues,
they don't do it, and they're letting really, what are a very
small percentage of freaks that are mentally troubled. They're letting them out number them
and overpower them at these I mean, you see some of these things where
you have all these crazy transgenders mobbing a couple poor pro life people. That's
pathetic. That shouldn't happen, but it could only happen because the churches have
failed. The alleged religious leaders are doing nothing but asking for money presentably.
Absolutely, you know, the prosperity gospel. By the way, I'm a
reverend, true i am. I am an ordained minister. Yes, maybe
maybe maybe we can start the America plugged revolution, Don, maybe we'll start
Yeah, the church, right, good comes out of the church. That's
sun sue that you know, the battle is won and the temples long before
it's fought. Right, he decided that, and that's this is part of
the massive I don't even know the depth of it. But if you read
history and you look into the work that the magnificent work that Don's done on
hidden history, we have I mean layers of mind control. We can't fathom.
You know, this is the United States is being targeted for destruction.
This is a controlled demolition. It's benefiting a very select few, and they've
targeted the heart of our culture, the heart of who we are. Um.
You know, it's the historian Will Durant says, when the faith dies,
the culture dies, the people die. That's where you start. You
attack the faith, you attack the family, you hit the heart. That's
what cultural Marxism is. That's the people that were kicked out of Hitler's Germany
in the thirties that set up the intellectuals you know, that were that found
refuge in the United States. That's the Frankfort School from Frankfort, Germany,
and um, you know, they they figured out these were hardcore Marxists and
revolutionaries, and they said, look, we took over Russia. You know,
like just like mause Tongue said that the power comes out of the barrel
of a gun. They took over mother Russia. But they figured out they
they held it, but they didn't really have their communist utopian paradise yet because
the people didn't really believe it. They were just afraid. So they said
we got to start from the bottom up. We got to start in the
education system. And that's where that comes from. Like that that seed that
was planted and it's blooming. Now you can see mean and we and it's
like living in a William Butler Yates poem, you know, like where the
best black all conviction, and the worst are full of passion intensity. That's
Don's right, Like the worst are just full of rage and bigger and their
planning and their militant and RP were like, oh well, we got to
work across the old. They're trying to divide us, guys, they're trying
to divide us. Yes, yes, they're trying to divide us. And
they're so they're so scared of being called or homophobic or transphobic. Now they're
so scared. Why do you care? That's why I get people when they
defend Trumble. You know they if they had done that, they would have
been said. What you acknowledge that they attacked him the entire time he was
an office. They were impeaching him every other week, they were constantly launching
and he didn't do anything. So what more could they have done if he
had done something? So that that argument doesn't hold water. At some point
you have to you can't be scared. You know. One of the Robert
F. Kennedy Junior and his UH, he wrote the forward to UH,
Judy mikovits his book and he quotes his father in there when he says,
or Robert F. Kennedy Senior said, the greatest what takes the most courage
is moral courage. It's it's even it's even rarer than physical courage. And
we have very little moral courage in this country at this point because you can't
you can't say whatever kind of courage the left habit isn't moral because it's immoral,
So they have immoral courage, I guess. But the right has to
have moral courage there. If this is a spiritual battle, you have to
feel that on your side that you're fighting for good and I don't see it
anywhere. And when you're looking to people like Trump, especially who's you know,
has not led a holy life, is the only thing. If he
said he was, you know, struck on the road to Damascus, and
now he's he's you know, this is a guy who's traded in supermodels every
twenty years. He's had tons of affairs he's he's not any He's worse than
Russia. Limbo or Russall. Limbo is there hero who's married three times,
had no biological children. This is the hero of the right. These guys,
you know, you have to kind of live what you're saying at some
point, and we just don't have anybody doing that that. I'm reading this
book bathering the Great Washington Post Empire, and it's fascinating because Catherine, she's
in college and she I don't know if it's her or who's the guy that
wrote the Jungle what was his name? No, it's Upton, Sinclair Upton
or her. Upton has a quote that like was put in the press like
how how it was Hollywood will never be left wing because there it was basically
just saying like it's so controlled by these fascist, evil fascist keeping things concerned,
or that Hollywood will never be left wing because they're terrified to print it.
And I just made me think of, now, just the power shift
that that must have had. I don't know when this happened, you know,
you guys know history better than I do, but I just found that
so fascinating. I think like the quote basically that Upton had was, um,
he made a movie or a book, a book about a fascist dictator
who was a Republican, and they blocked it. They tried to censor the
book, and his quote was something like, well, if you guys Republicans
are sensitive by this, maybe that's something to think of. So one that
just amadenly made me think of today like the same type of the same type
of rhetoric. But it just amazes me that at one point, I mean,
we have no power the right, whether that's we or not we.
Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, there's no name me one powerful rightist organization
that can actually get anything done. Not one. And it's a fake thing.
I mean there's a lot of donations. They their donation. I mean,
that's what did I call the GOP grifters on patrol, always looking for
something like money for it and they don't like to win. They like to
be fundraising for eternity. You're talking about Katherine Graham, aren't you. Yes,
Yeah, you know she dated Warren Buffett. You got to that part
yet where they have I have you're ruining. I'm only halfway done. If
you're gonna blow it for me, what a wonderful romance. Well, here's
something well and you get off topic. But you know, I was thinking
of Kathy and Graham, and I thought of Warren Buffett, and I think
of Warren Buffett and his dad was actually a real deal. Like his dad
was like remember that John Bird Society was a congressman. There was absolutely like
a right wing guy in Nebraska. I don't know what happened to his son,
but it's like, you know, like the not even close, you
know, but um, you're right about like that. There was there was
a period in America where and it's funny, like you like the right is
taking over where you know, like Reagan. You know, like it's it's
it's so silly, you know, like you look back at the Reagan years
and it was just like you know, well, it's like is the problem,
yeah, but you're growing it. I mean I was thinking about today,
like the first time we hit a trillion dollars in debt was under Reagan.
And it just kept going. I remember He's like I get rid of
the Department of Education, and you get rid of it by growing it,
I guess because he just keeps growing it. Nothing was cut under Reagan.
There's Reagan. Remember Reagan. It was art Laugher the africurve. You know,
we spike it by cutting the top marginal tax rates and deregulating, but
we also increase spending, which is you know, that's the Keynesian model.
So it is funny when I think of people like the when you think of
like the boogeyman that the left has that the right's going to take over,
I'm like, where where is the right? What do you name me?
One governmental organization? Where the top I say the top fifty people. I
better the top fifty people is they're a conservative like rock rib person. Not
a chance, there's nobody. All aspects of government from the top down of
every agency is covered by a globalist leftist done the Handmaid's Tale. I don't
know how many women I know that Handmaid's Tale could happen. I said,
what good God, they've killed the maternal instinct in American American women, especially
what kind of fantasy do you have? And men are so subservient. That's
why one of the shows I watched my son turned me onto it is Jason
Whitlock's Less podcast. He's a black guy and he's the most he's the best
one out there about race relations and what he calls the matriarchy too. He's
no white person could do what he says what he says. He calls out
the matriarchy all the time about how weak men are and how they've let women
take over the culture. And he's always calling out black athletes and black entitlement
everything. He's an amazing guy. He used to be in Tucker Carlson a
lot that his HID podcast is really, uh, it's it's it's the best
thing out there, I think next to our shows, of course. And
the last thing I wanted to was that that that growing, you know,
the Prussian education system, and so I'm reading, I'm listening to a book.
I forget what it's about Prussia though, like the history of Prussia,
and it was that and I've always heard that our education and our military is
based off the Prussian system, and I never really knew what that men.
So I was fascinating learning that they wanted to get people more um subservient to
the state, loyal to the state. And they came out and I forget
when it was, I guess like seventeen hundreds, right they instituted this knew
idea, maybe even before that in Prussia, this is how we're going to
get the people to fall in love with us. We're going to teach them
from day one, this is how you become a good member of society.
This is how you do this. And it just helped me understand or comprehend
like what the American education system slowly he was doing all these years. Whether
teachers knew that or not, you're just creating these perfect drones that that.
Yeah. I always give the example like if you call out Zionism to people
that maybe you don't even watch politics, maybe aren't even Christians, they will
defend it by gut reaction, and it's like amazing. It's like what skin
do you have in the game. You have no skin in the game.
But yeah, you're yelling at me or getting upset. It's just they've conditioned
people so well to just mister Smith, you know from the matrix like they
it just pops up into them and they're able to they start, you know,
shooting at your glaw whatever. Yeah, do you think God, Yeah,
no, I certainly agree with what you're saying. But I think you
know, they used to our education systems since I guess John Dewey pushed it
on us over a hundred years ago was always concerned I think, with creating
a good citizens of the state, you know, but at least before like
they used to teach them. They stopped teaching civics before I got to high
school sits in a long time, and they used to teach civics and so
people. I don't know how much that was absorbed, but presumably at least
some of the people got some lesson in civics and how you maybe try to
behave appropriately in society, try to you know, to understand how maybe how
to engage with others. I don't know what they exactly taught, but I
think it's something that certainly needs to be taught now. But it's so lacking.
They are still creating citizens of the state, but it's a monster state
now. So these kinds of citizens are different. They're creating freaks, and
they're destroying little kids, you know, with the I mean, this is
all Frankenstein's stuff. I mean, let's little girls, let's go cut your
breasts off and we'll pose topless with the Frankenstein's scars next to your beaming mother
and your evil you know doctor that participated and did this to you little boys.
You know, you cut your thing off, and you know, and
there's so many people that we're not seeing it yet, but we're starting to
see a little bit of another fifteen twenty years. You're gonna have so many
people that are just completely probably I've already killed themselves or on the verge of
that, because they went through this and they have regrets. You already have
so many people that come back and want to retransition or whatever. And it's
it's just it's it's terrible. And again, where are the churches. Where's
the other side? Where's my church? The Catholic church? They probably agree
with it, I don't know. They used to be pro life. And
where where the fundamentalists that are there. They're always there to lecture about you
know, you're gonna go to hail and all. They love to say that
stuff. But why aren't they saying about this. They're quiet. I don't
know if they're talking about it from the pulpit or not. I don't think
they are. But they need to be going out in the streets. And
again, that's what we know. I know there are powers behind the civil
rights movement, but that's what made the civil rights movement effective. Getting charismatic
reverence out in front of the flock and they will start following. That's what
we need here. We need there's charismatic preachers out there. Get some religious
leaders out there and stop trying to collect money on television and go out lead
your flock and try to fight back against this pure Satanism that it's taken over
the culture. And I think you, I mean me. You know,
the world America is not as Christian anymore. So maybe you could say you
have these real charismatic podcasters and stuff. But the issue then I also see,
especially with our community whatever you want to call it, is anybody that
maybe is charismatic and has a large following in if they're successful, they're a
fact that it's they're immediately they're they're working with the sea, they were at
the you know, and Nick twentys like comes to mind. All these people
that whether I don't know if they are or not, but you can't if
you're too successful, you're you're you're you're a fed you know, and you
already lost now twenty percent of the conspiracy movement or whatever because you're too successful
to have grown organically or what have you. Yeah, Well, the conspiracy.
Alternative media feeds on itself. It eats its own and it's unfortunate.
I think a lot of that's like by design so it can't go anywhere.
Um, but it really if you look at a like a like a lot
of the comment sections and places when you go live and then like oh this
is you're a shill and then you did you didn't. You don't believe what
I believe, so you must be a plant. And it's like, you
know what that leads to ladies and gents nealism, like neialism, nothing matters,
nothing's real. I mean, why are you even showing up? It's
funny because the neilist always wrote papers and stuff. I'm like, well,
if you don't believe in anything, we why do you care if anybody believes
it? You know, like what it's so there's always some kind of like
deeper thing. And you know there's a lot of people I don't agree with
their I think there's a lot of great researchers in alternative because we have to
do this job that the mainstream won't do because they can't because that's not their
Their job is to read the teleprompter and have a hairdo or whatever and be
a personality. It's not to gun cover anything. And you know we're talking
about that. There was a pole to day on Summit dot News like two
thirds of Americans think that the media is the enemy of the people. And
I'm like, welcome to the party. Foul. I mean, that's a
long time. I mean, what's wrong with the other third? You know,
um, yeah, they're obviously the enemy of the people. And I
don't know. I just think there's there's something, there's a sort of neihilism
that goes with it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Like if
you get too big, oh, then you're a shill, and then you're
you're a part of the you're an op, you're a fed. We have
to be really careful with that because people ought to be allowed. Tom I
probably won't ever be like big or anything, because I mean, the way
to get big right now is to find out what your audience wants. Your
audience isn't You don't build your audience necessarily anymore. You go find what they
want and you say it. Like I've been in broadcasting since I've been in
radio for since twenty thirteen. I've been on major stations and I know exactly
what to say. I don't say it because I don't believe it. But
I could. I have the skill set. I could have a million followers
in a year. And that's where you hit Trump real hard. You just
you, you go after and you kind of put a camera on all the
crazy idiocy. You know, you talk about bud light cans for six weeks
in a row. You know, like that's what you would do. And
it's boring and it's stupid and it's intellectually slow and I can't do it and
I won't never have a big audience because of that. You're totally right,
dude, And it's such a simple yea. If you're want to be on
the right, if you're a minority, all right, you're almost there.
You just gotta be able to be a little bit articulate and boom, at
least Daily Wire is going to hire you or promote you. And yeah,
but so I wanted to bring up we brought up earlier Elon Musk in the
new Ley. But I saw the FDA approved, is it? It's a
I didn't I didn't look. I just saw I was approved in human use.
So I don't know if that's just for clinical trials. But I don't
know if either of you know anymore you know about where that's where that stands,
what you go don do you know about Elon and his well just what
I've heard, but I mean, I you know, and again I was
I was accused of being naive because I said, Okay, I support what
are you saying about free speech? When he was talking about that, And
but you know, he's whatever little hope I had for him left when he
hired the new CEO of Twitter. It was a w e F Chair Chair
World Economic for him. And I'm still waiting. I don't know if you've
heard Tony. I still have not heard any comment from Tucker Carlson because he
I don't think it was an accident. He literally hired her the day after
Tucker Carlson and signed with Twitter, and you know he you know, I
can't believe if Tucker Carlson has any sincerity in him that he's happy about that,
because that's going to be his new boss. He's criticized the World Economic
for and so and so his musk very and if you looked on Twitter,
I tweeted out the musk course. Shockingly enough, He didn't answer me,
but he probably it was probably ninety nine point nine percent thousands and thousands of
comments saying what a chilly was and he was a phony. He lost all
credibility. How could you how could you possibly name her? She goes against
everything you're talking about. This is what you were supposed to reform. Not
one positive comment anywhere, and I think he maybe engaged one or two of
them, but that was it, and he had no one. Let's wait
and see you're no, No, that's stupid. It's but it was.
It was every it was every bit as dumb and as inexplicable as when Trump
named Bolton or something of it. So it's just it made no sense.
So I'm whatever, what I had a toe on the Elon mass bond bandwagon.
It's it's off now, so he's and I'm still shadow band there now,
so he certainly hasn't stopped shadow bands. Well, Tony, do you
have any thoughts on like that that? Because I right, it got approved.
I think just for clinic I'm assuming clinical trials because it's not like tons
of people are walking around with neur link in their brain yet. Well,
the FDA is the John Kerry of the pharmaceutical industry there for before they were
against it. Uh you know they remember John carry back and over. I
voted for it before I voted it against it. I think that the FDA
just I saw a mean to the day. It was like fun. Fact
every drug recalled by the FDA was once approved by the FDA. That's pretty
fun. So what's wrong with your mind that you need to implant something from
Elon Musk into it? Are you really going to improve anything? Even if
you could? Do you want that? And now we live in an age
of AI and all this. I mean, I'm almost to the point where
I'm like a good luck, you know, like I just you just go
away, Like I don't, like, do we want to engage anymore with
with society, with the people that are bracing this stuff. I think there's
a big chunk of just to be serious, I think there's a big chunk
of people that don't want anything to do with this, and they're not and
it's gonna fail and it's gonna look like crap. AI, by the way,
is very satanic and it's dangerous, but it's not gonna take over everything.
Um because eventually you have to have humans do something like the AI chat
bot that was like, hey, I'm dangerous and you should be with me
and not your wife like of a box, like you know, you're done.
So it's it's you know, there's a there's a certain level of you
know, we give power to these things. And I know that's just the
headline on the headline. I'm looking at the headline and Drudge right now it's
Musk is set to chip humans. We've been We've known this for a while.
And he's the same guy he warned Joe Rogan. I warned them against
the AI, and they didn't listen to me. So I made the AI
congratulate. And then then the next headline they have is Trump is unstoppable.
I mean, like, come on, you know, like, who is
it AI running the Drudge Report? Oh that's funny, dude. And then
I also, I didn't get to why, but I saw you were on
David Night's show talking about gold back crypto, which sounds I mean, so
I would love to hear you know, right off the bat, that sounds
awesome. So I would love to hear more about that well real quick.
And I'm sure Don has thoughts on this too, But Okay, so the
State of Texas is I mean, through committee, they want to pass a
bill where the state takes their gold and silver reserves, their bullion reserves,
and they back it. They backed that, They back a digitized cryptocurrency run
by the State of Texas. That's that's redeemable in gold and silver specie.
Sounds good on paper and it until you realize that it's run by the state.
I don't need a state run currents. See period we have whether you're
in Boston or Bangladesh, the price of gold and silver are the same same
around the world. For bitcoin, it's always been that way. We don't
need governments, don't need to be in the business of currency. It's a
backdoor for tyranny, especially when you're talking about digitized currency. I opposed this,
and I remember I just offered, like reflexively, I'm like, I
don't like this. And the next day I saw a podcast from Joseph P.
Farrell, who wrote Babylon's Banksters, and he was like, this is
a really bad thing because because what it is, it's a backdoor to say,
now here's one you can trust. Here's run by the State of Texas.
Where they got they got a red state because red means what communism.
It's so funny they always like the red blue thing, you know, like
I'm gonna get a red state and I'm like, you mean like communism,
Like, oh no, but you know we're red. And I'm like,
I know they did that to you, and you embraced it. So I
look at that. I'm very skeptical and I hope it works out. But
I mean to think about that Democrat we talked about democ Don's so right about
this in Americans to have no idea what's happened to this country? Like you
have no idea how the demographics have changed so much. I mean, Reagan
won a forty eight state landslide in nineteen eighty four, forty eight states,
just smash Walter Mondale. Could you do that today? Could any candidate get
a forty eight state landslide? I mean winning California. The demographics have changed
so in California you could never beat the Democrat. It doesn't matter what.
It doesn't matter if you had the best looking woman who was articulate and just
a it doesn't matter how good you were, how good, You're gonna lose
because people are gonna push the button because that's what demographics do. And you
don't understand, demography is destiny. So Texas is going to change. It's
going to be a blue state. I'm sorry, I didn't do it.
Greg Abbott, Yeah, you know, Greg Abbott decided I'm just gonna watch
this. I mean he Greg Abbott tweeted in twenty fifteen he was like the
defensive line of the Cowboys was a luck like the border. I'm like,
you're governor, yeah, Trupian very Trumpians like this is so ridiculous, you
know. I'm like, yeah, you did it. And Texas like wow,
I'm so glad I got Greg Abbott and that's where that's and it's gonna
turn blue. And I say blue even I'm captured by the full crumb of
that siop, you know, like it's a blue state, but they're gonna
turn the demographically they're going there. The Democrats know it. And it maybe
make two or three election cycles, but it's going there. And once see
when I was a kid, Texas was a blue state, but it was
blue dog like it was run by the Democrats, and Richards was governor right,
and Richards a far cry from whatever the hell these people are like,
I mean, I mean, you say what you will about that. That
was not the same we were. We were. Lloyd Bens was my senator,
like that, we are not the same. You know. He was
the one that told h dan quail, right, thanks Donny dan quill.
He's like, you know, I was friends with Jack Kennedy. You know
Jack Kennedy. So it's gonna go So why would you hand over a currency
to what we know is eventually inevitably going to be run by a leftist?
And I don't like it? So that's my short that's the short version.
I didn't know that. Obviously, that makes much more sense. Like how
so I didn't know it was run by the government or the state. That's
very interesting. Well, I think that Tony basically touched on this, but
I think that putting the gold standard and then gold standard is still kind of
a traditional conservative view. We need to proact the gold standard. So that
may be a way for them to sneak the digital currency in. I mean
they may maybe if they go to full digitalized currency, they'll somehow say we're
we're linking it to gold. You're not gonna be able to get it unless
we approve what you know, your tweets or your social media posts. But
and you know, conservatives being representing the stupid Party. That's what we call
them, the stup evil Party, the stupid party. The stupid Party has
never been more stupid. And you can bet people like that that I that
I debate with it, that I just kind of talked to about Trump and
stuff. Those people are all fall for it. If the right conservatives,
you know, say oh, yeah, you know, this is a good
plan. Back by the gold standard, nothing to worry about. It's back
by the gold standard, digitalized currencies, something to worry about, doesn't matter
what, it's back by it. And I would suspect that's probably why this
talk is going on. Aby. They may be trying to bring on bring
on board all these conservatives and the usual suspects that would that will go ahead
with the plan and do what they always do, lose. And you know,
I say, oh, is ri, It's great, and then they'll
twiddle their thumbs and wonder what happened. Yeah, I agree, Jack,
you're my ex mused brother. Hm, I hit that damn button again.
That played my old thing there? And did you also see um that I
think it's called like fed now or something like that, that transfer service.
Have you guys read all about well just from what I like saw so obviously
like PayPal them all these different apps, but bank charges like three percent or
four percent, and I think, I don't know if it's called fed now,
is it okay? Yeah? And what that charges like point zero two
percent? And so this would put PayPal, Venmo cash app a way out
of business because why would you use this the them when you can get this
service and they But I didn't know if I'm tony or done, if you
had done any more like is pe, Like if I was the Venmo Cash
App CEO, I would be glad that I just left this my mortal coil
because my company is gonna go under, you know, So I don't know
if you knew any more about it. That's a it's a piggyback system for
the central bank digital currency. It's bad. I mean, they're they're implementing
one thing right top down. That's why you're going to start seeing these regional
banks start having problems with liquidity, and they're gonna have stress tests and they're
gonna have all these problems, and they're gonna start these large banks are gonna
start buying them up. And that's the banking crisis, all these crisis that
are used to consolidate. So FED now is like that. It's the it's
the bones, the structure for the central bank digital currency. They're running it
now. They used the Bank of America, I believe in um JP Morgan
to piggyback and to run it. It's a payment system that can go across
banking. But you know again they're gonna like, well, we need only
the larger banks can handle it. You've got about six major large banks that
run that's the too big to fail, too big to jail, and you
get about six thousand regional bank. Okay, So they want to use FED
now and then again a lot of the this is what happens. That freedom
can only exist in a decentralized system. Freedom cannot exist from a top down
thing. It just is debt, debt on arrival. So be on the
lookout for that. I agree with you. I mean, I like cash
app, UM, I use cash app all the time. I love bitcoin.
You know, I'm a golden silver guy. I have a golden silver
business is what I do. UM, And I like decentral is that I
had. You know, I love it when people can get together and we
can just you know, like I had a guy come in to day it's
I needed some bitcoin. I didn't know he was gonna buy something with I
had had a nineteen o eight twenty dollars gold pieces worth about twenty two hundred
bucks. I sold him to him first bitcoin, just to straight trade over
the counting boom? What bank was involved? There? Nothing, you know,
because we're free on the earth to do so that's we should be doing
that, you know. So No, I don't support any of this stuff.
I mean the creature from Jekyl Island read it well doing and that.
But that was my one question about this is why would Visa? Why would
all these billion dollar companies allow that? Because they're gonna lose billions? Right?
I mean everybody that uses these services? Is it because they're so InterLAN
that doesn't matter? Is that? Why? Like? Why why would they
let this go through? Does that make sense? When I'm when I'm asking
me and Don wrote The Survival of the Richest? Ye? What I mean?
Why why would why would why would bud Lake try to destroy their business?
Why was was Disney doing it? They're bigger agendas, you know.
And again I I can't stress enough that these it's it's not always a bad
profits. And I don't know. I think there's a black hole where the
intelligence budgets are. I suspect that a lot of these companies get funds we
don't even know about. They get stuff under the table because it doesn't mean
because they really are greedy, they do want profits, so it goes against
their instincts to do these these kinds of things. But the fact that they
do it so willingly and they double down on it, they don't care.
They don't care. It doesn't matter you lost ninety percent, I don't care.
They'll just double down. That's not that's not supposed to be the capitalist
mine, right, So I think they're probably getting some kind of payoffs under
the table through you know, again we don't we don't know where a lot
of the money in our in our budget goes, including the still top secret
intelligence agency budgets, and nobody seems to want to make them public. I
don't know why, but I mean, and that's probably where they pay the
hit squad too, the people that kills whistleblowers. You know, that's where
probably where the body counts bad. They probably have a hit squad that's there
somewhere, but yeah, you know, so it's it doesn't None of this
really surprises me because I wouldn't expect them to balk in it, because again,
corporate America is I think Tony kind of alluded to earlier. There aren't
any conservatives and the corporate world used to be a vast end of conservatism.
They're they're more woke than the government now, so they're on board with with
whatever. If this is the new thing that we're pushing it, Oh yeah,
cool, we'll go for it. And again I think they're probably paid
off onto the table, But yeah, I don't. I don't think you'll
see any fight there. And they'll sell it to the people, and people
will people it's like to go to self checkout counters or anything else if they
think there's a little convenience or in this case, that they're saving a little
money, you know why paying three percent instead of zero two percent? They
don't necessarily who care who they're paying it to. So I think it will
be a smashing success if you know, if they decide to do it.
Oh, I think you're yeah, that's a great, great answer. And
then my last, my last time. I don't know if you guys,
so I keep seeing obviously more and more craziness keeps happening, false flags,
all these you know, trauma everywhere. And I saw though, what like
sixty thousand tons of ammonium nitrate when missing in California. I mean, you
know, I it's not I don't put it past the government to losing trillions
or tons of anything. You know, they have those that ability, they're
they're so in f But I didn't know if you guys thought that this was
maybe to play to a larger or it's in play for something significant with this
missing ammonium nitrate. So Tony, I don't know if you had any any
thoughts on or maybe you have it, maybe it's in your gold shop.
No, that would make me a fit. That would be that would be
confirmation that I'm Michel and I'm a fed um. You know, there's a
reason why the government has a term for a lost nuclear weapon. It's called
a broken arrow, because they've lost them, right, there's a reason that
you have to have a term for it. I mean, it's literally a
term. It's called a broken arrow. So I didn't know that yes,
lost nukes. Um, so yeah, I saw that story. It's it's
concerning. It's almost like they you know, they advertise it. Oh like
here's a blurt, you know, enough to do some real damage and God
forbid you know. Um and Don's done great work. If you read,
go folks, go get Hidden History. If you don't know Gon's work,
go get it, go get the book. He's got new stuff coming out.
So he's got a new book out. We need to talk about that.
Don't make sure you plug that down. Oh I will definitely will you
know I think that, Uh, but we definitely got you look at Oklahoma
City, you know that's that's where you get to the people became familiar with.
Oh, fertilizer will blow up? Yeah, you know, sure will.
Um and they lost what sixty thousand pounds of it? Yeah something like
that thirty Yeah, sixty thousand pounds so um enough to do some enough to
you know, you're gonna need a few rider trucks and you'll you'll you'll need
uh. The what they have the worst black white supremacists that I've ever seen
lately. Like the guy is the White House. He's like he's got a
Nazi flag look at this white supremacist. Just they his white supremacy. It's
like the Proud Boys. I'm like, I had the one of the Proud
Boys on my show back, you know long, but they don't talk to
many of them anymore. But I was like, you guys are the worst
white supremacist. I haven't talked to a white guy yet. You know,
everything's supposed to be white supremacists, but you never actually meet a white one.
Yeah. Well, when when they talk about something like that, just
I don't know much about the story other than it just strikes me again as
more fear porn, because if they see the general public can kind of put
two and two together and say, oh, something bad could happen there,
you know, they could make bombs with it or whatever. And can you
lose? And how did they even explain? How how did it get lost?
I mean who lost it? Where did it go? I mean these
are the questions that nobody asked. It's just well, you know they've they'll
just parrot it and they'll leave it out there hanging like the other fear porn,
just like you came out of China the other day that there's new pandemic
on the way that may kill as many of sixty five millions. Like so,
this is just barely gonna be an endless series of pandemics, even though
we want one hundred years without one. And now it's just going to be
nonsense. So it's it's they. They've the conspirators, the people that run
things, have seen that nothing works like fear, and they're just stepping up
the fear all the time. You know, they're kind we need to redo
FDRs. Expression is because today's Americans have can do nothing else but fear,
fear of fear itself all the time. That's what they're doing. They're in
fear constantly, and that's throwing it out there. So I would suspect that's
what that story is. That's I think that's that's totally bad. Yeah,
so I think it's a perfect sague. Since you brought up the child,
the new thing that's going to kill everybody, don you You just released a
book, so tell plug it, tell everybody about it. You were nice
enough to send me a copy, so yeah, yeah, well it's a
well, I don't have any hard copies. I was sending you guys pds,
but I don't even have one myself. Yet, but it's um It's
called Masking the Truth How COVID nineteen destroyed civil liberties and shut down the world.
It's gott a forward by doctor Sherry Tenpenny. Uh. It's it's the
first book. And there have been other good books, like you know,
Naomi Wolf's Bodies of Others and Peter McCullough's book, and Alex Barrens and Bobby
Kennedy Junior's book about Faucci. There's been other books, but this is the
first one that tell us the whole story from beginning to end. And I
go way down the rabbit hole. I'll hold back. I talk about the
empty hospitals. I talk about the freezer trucks that were you know, videotaped
is all being off when there's buzzy containing much advice. I talk about the
dancing nurses in their choreography. You can't forget those things. They're incredible lies.
I have all the statistics in there about how they lie from the very
beginning, going back to Italy and how the Italian newspaper quietly reported, are
these thousands of deaths that were happening that you've been filling the people with theory
will actually of them were from other causes, so and those kind of things
are and so I think my book is the first one that's going to have
that, and I don't go into the Republican area. The conservative response has
been to talk about the China, China, and the leak from the Wuhan
lab, and certainly some Frankenstein type things going on in the Wuhan lab,
but releasing a bioweapon was in one of them. The bioweapon is the vaccine,
and people needed there. It's like a magician. They're distracting them with
COVID whatever it is. As I point out in there, they've never proven
COVID nineteen exist, and the government tells you that they can't isolate it.
So until they prove it exist, I'm going to assume it's the regular coronavirus,
and it's the flu, and it's all these other causes. They falsely
attributed death to COVID, and then when they brought the vaccine out, then
they go into the other cover up mode and start covering up the amount of
deaths and injuries caused by the vaccine. So I think people, especially on
the right, they're the ones that are skeptical or finally got fed up with
the lockdown and everything. But again they're distracting you. They're looking in the
wrong direction. It's not China's fault. Everybody was on board this, Bill
Gates isn't from China. You know, Trump wasn't from China, Biden's not
from China, Fallacies not from China. The whl all that, that's who
the culprits are. And people will read how this started back in two thousand
and one with the Dark Winter exercises. I would give too much away of
it, but this was something they planned for. They talked about it,
and you can see how right down to what they were practicing over and over
again. And the last one was a gender two oh one, right before
the pandemic hit in October of twenty nineteen, which Bill Gates, who w
ef all these usual suspects were involved, and they were planning on what would
happen if a virus and and almost all the exercise of the virus came out
of China, and uh, and how would we develop a vaccine to compound
it to combat it. So amazing that they knew this back in two thousand
and one, when you know the santis Fluids nineteen eighteen. So get the
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