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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They
have their Eye on the Ball on tucsaon

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Hey, welcome back to my iying
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I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacob Zewis. Now we have one with breaking news,

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Eye on the ball, Breaking news
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Alrighty,

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So with some NFL news to start
off, the Kansas City Chief Vice

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President Rick Burkeholder gave a positive update
on BJ Thompson, who went into suffering

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seizars and cardiac arrest Thursday while in
his special Teams meeting. But he's awake,

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he's doing good and responding well to
everything. That's just crazy, you

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know, when an athlete like that, he's only twenty five. I can't

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imagine, you know, what's going
on with your body that that happened.

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Just announced recently, Randy Gregory issuing
the NFL and the Denver Broncos claiming discrimination

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over being fined over five hundred k
for taking medication containing th HC for disabilities

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during his brief time in Denver.
See what happens with that. Uh,

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I don't know. I mean there, I don't know. I'm not I

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guess I shouldn't even say anything because
I don't know to the NBA. Yeah,

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last night, the first game of
the Finals took place. The Celtics

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put a pretty good beat down on
the Dallas Mavericks for Game one. They

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did and uh and uh, I
got see you can thank me for you

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know, getting you some some dough
on. No, no, I'm never

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gonna do that. I had this
victory a long time ago if I took

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got it with Chris, so I'm
happy about that. No, No,

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don't, don't. Don't tempt faith
and screw with me all the time.

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Though there's got a few with a
few more games left, there is there

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is I would rather you go the
other way. I'm okay. Well,

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I'll just tell you right now,
I'm seriously considering taking Dallas Dallas money line

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at the next game. In the
next game, go right ahead. I'm

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okay with it all right. With
the Lakers head coaching position open, they're

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looking at possibly taking down Hurly as
the top candidate from the Yukon Huskies.

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Well, they had their meeting today. Yep, I think just thing just

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rolled up on social media that he
he's expected to be offered one hundred million

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dollars over eight years. I think
he's making what is he making now?

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Five five? And they just re
up to last year. I just renewed

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him. At what point in people's
lives and I think we've had a discussion

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before. Do you say that money
is the money doesn't matter, it's not

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an issue because you already have a
boatload already. Well, certainly, if

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you're making five million a year,
you've made, you've made and are making

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plenty of money, and and you're
comfortable at what you do and very good

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at what you do. So regardless
of what, whther it's one hundred million

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dollars or eighty million dollars or whatever
the million dollars is, you know,

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in the end, Bobby heard is
gonna have to be comfortable with if he

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decides to take this job, that
he's gonna be comfortable with living in LA

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and all that comes with it.
There's the question, you know, and

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and not just living in LA but
having that job and all that comes with

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it, right, and all that
comes in Now he has said that,

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you know, he does aspire to
coach in the NBA, and so if

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they you know, if you're gonna
coach in the NBA and you get to

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leap right up to the Lakers,
you know, you don't have to go

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coach the Wizards or you know,
some scrubby team that you know, the

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Sacramento Kings or whatever, then why
wouldn't you? The reason is Michael Michael

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Magic Johnson is not coming through those
doors. Is Louel Cinder and and Lebron.

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Lebron doesn't have a lot of time
left. No, I don't know.

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I don't know. If I and
everybody talks about the challenge of the

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next thing, sometimes it's just leave
well enough alone and continue to be good

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at what you do. But again, you know, with with where he

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is, you know his choice will
ultimately be about more than the money.

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You would think if he's a smart
guy. Well if well, I guess

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he's married, right, Yes,
this ain't this anty decision, but himself

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it's not. And she is from
His wife is from Kenneticut, So she's

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from there, you know. I
mean he said that at the you know,

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at the at the final four.
You know, if he does do

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something that you know he's got to. He's got to check with his wife

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first, so we'll see, you
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interested to see what he could do
with the Lakers, said, do you

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do you want him to go to
the Lakers? I think he has a

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chance to be the next coach K
of this generation, right, That's why

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I personally want to see him at
he can keep it up, maybe even

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go for the three p Right now, who is next coach K? I

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have my name, Tommy Lloyd.
I don't know just who Bill so Ugh?

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Is there anything even close? Yeah? Yeah, he's won a bun,

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but he's just not He's a freaking
cheater. He's not that guy though.

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Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, this is college

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basketball. The thing about it with
him and he talked about this, I

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don't say a lot, Jay,
because you were in the room, when

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I was in the room when he
talked about the NIL stuff and having to

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deal with that crap now. Yeah, And and I think your point with

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Ariema said that, yeah he's coaching
pros. They're all coaching pros now,

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and why not just coach pros and
deal with it. I still don't say

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that. And maybe it's a question
to be have with Brennan or Tommy just

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to get a quote. And how
how how is that going to be?

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How is that now because they're doing
it now because they're paying the kids to

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get the point of your point across. As a coach, you gotta run

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faster, play harder, YadA YadA, and the coaches not that the players

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don't do this to get them to
do that for the check cashing. Yeah,

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does that make sense? It makes
total sense, Steve. It changes

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the dynamic for sure. Yeah,
completely. Yeah. When before you had

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the bench and you had the thing
and you had to, you know,

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to get them to play hard.
Now they don't care. On the bench,

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the chicks are still checks are cashing. You know, maybe I'm looking

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at it wrong. Well, well, here here's the thing. The great

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athletes, the guys who are athletes, they'll they'll play for sure a check

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or no check, and they're going
to give you their best, regardless of

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whether they're making ten thousand or a
million dollars. But there are going to

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be some out there who are in
it for the check, right, and

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you're only going to get as much
as the check will will dictate. There

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are going to be some guys like
that there are guys like that in the

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pros. Right if they're not getting
paid, they're not playing right. Right.

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So now that that whole dynamic comes
to the college level, which it's

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gonna be interesting to see how coaches
at the college level deal with that when

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they've never had to deal with that, you know, and it may be

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that you may maybe, you know, when when when schools, now for

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the big programs, are hiring a
new coach, they might go get a

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pro coach who's dealt with this and
who has been able to handle you know,

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the the the egos and the dynamics
of of of coaching players who think

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they're pros because you know what,
an eighteen year old making a half a

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million dollars a year is a scary
sounding no coaching situation. But in my

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world, I've done for a long
time and you've done it, you know,

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for some time. There's fewer people
in this world that have bigger egos

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than coaches at this level on the
next because they're the next guys who are

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going to coach the guys uh,
the adans and bla blah blah blah.

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I can get them to change.
I can make it happen. But and

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guess what happens. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. And I mean

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I think, you know, there
were some athletes, Steve who, even

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before they were making this kind of
money, uh you know, thought they

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were all that in a bag of
chips again you know, uh uh yes,

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uh you know. Mario Bates came
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came out to call. And I
just remember chasing Michael Baits around and

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he's a you know, an eighteen
year old kid who just had this stride

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and just this approach that you know, and I'm an adult chasing him around

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to find out where he's going to
go to school. And he was kind

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of like, I'm big stuff and
you're not, you know, and and

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that's you know, and that's how
so many you know, so they were.

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There were kids. There were kids
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sure of course, well that's hell
almost said words. I know those dudes,

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I know those as I played with
those dudes. Their poop doesn't stink,

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yeah, or they think it does, think it any Eventually you get

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there and go, god, it
sounds really bad. All right, Sorry

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about that? Okay? Good?
So for the Spring Football League. They're

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having their semifinals this weekend. The
Panthers play the Stallions on Saturday and then

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the BrahMos play the battle Hawks on
Sunday. All right, we don't know.

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I don't think any Arizona guys are
so Scooby right, used to be

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on the stand Scooby retired Lorenzo Burns, former cornerback. He was in the

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really more of the Kevin someone years. He's on the Stallions too. Okay,

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Yeah, so tho Stallions. Yesterday, the Oklahoma Sooners repeated as softball

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champions, their fourth in a row. Pete, Yeah, they were just

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good. Did you see. I
saw a lot of that game just out

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of curiosity. These girls are just
fantastic. I mean it's hard to beat

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them. Yeah, I mean,
Texas was a number one in the country

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and Okla and they're just so good. And I'm just trying to remember seeing

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how the game has changed, because
you know, we saw the Arizona softball

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team dominate during their time. It's
not like this though, this is different.

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It was different. Yeah, I
didn't watch it. It's just so

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they're just so good. Yeah,
I you know, I was rooting against

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him just because I root against heavy
favorites like that. I know they were

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the two seed and Texas was the
one seed, but yeah, I had

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to think going in that oklahom was
gonna win this thing, and they did

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for sure. Last thing I got
Team US a beat cricket powerhouse Pakistan in

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the Historic World Cup. Yeah.
I just thought that was a little bit

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at least their first year. So
beat the quote unquote powerhouse. You got

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all these you got all these people
on social media saying the United States is

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now a cricket power Do you understand? Have you ever watched the cricket match?

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You know what it works or what
it is not at all. I

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just know that Team USA be Pakistan, and I think a bunch of the

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team, a bunch of the players
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So but it's it's funny that people
are like claiming, Okay, we're

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the power now and in cricket.
It was all done the cheek, of

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course, of course, okay,
anything else. Yeah, you know,

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I came across this just a little
bit ago. Do you do you get

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you get the Sunday Ticket? You
know, well, I've been a Sunday

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Ticket subscribers since from the get go. Apparently there was an anti trust lawsuit

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out there against the NFL and Direct
TV. And the reason this is news

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is because the class action lawsuit has
been certified now by a California judge.

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So it really it doesn't get to
this point unless there's a reasonable chance that

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there's there's something to this. But
Direct TV and the NFL are being sued

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saying that they violated an anti trust
laws because you had to buy this Sunday

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ticket package to see games out of
your market, and in addition that it

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was at a very inflated price,
so that you know, we were paying

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more than we should have been,
and that a lot of this stuff should

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have been available either at a lesser
price or just in general. How much

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was it? How much is the
lawsuit? How much is the ticket?

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Sunday ticket it runs? I think
it runs about four hundred bucks three four

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hundred bucks a year? And yours? What was your purpose of getting to

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be able to see any game I
want to see? But okay, so

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you didn't game day? What's what's
the game day? You're thinking? You're

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thinking of red zone? No,
because that's what I watch. I watch,

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which is that's why everyone's a d
D and have so many things.

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But was the other one the other
one's game day or because the NFL has

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its own game choice. I don't
know what that's it Sunday Ticket. But

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you can watch game, you can
watch you can watch the actual games with

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Sunday Ticket. When you watch games, not these ones are are highlights like

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red the Red Zone right, Oh
no, this is different. This is

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this is my point. This is
Sunday Ticket that comes with Red Zone.

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You pay four hundred dollars to watch
any game you want. You'll be able

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to watch any game? How much
can you adopt me? That's why?

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Well I split it, split it
with the Okay, the reason I say

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is you can watch Red Zone and
see games whenever they're being played. You

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know what, Well for I,
I mean I I just love having a

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choice to be whatever. Again I
want to watch and so now, And

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I mean I subscribe to it from
the very beginning. And I used to

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be like one hundred and twenty bucks
or whatever, and the price kept going

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up. I think this last year
is four hundred dollars, which carded me

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to split with be like a seven
point one billion dollar seven they're seeking seven

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point one billion dollars in damages,
and so you know, it could be

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I whether or not this goes through, it's just that it's it's reached a

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point that now it's serious. Uh. You know, lawsuits like this,

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it takes a long time for them
to process through. And so now it's

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gotten to the point where the class
action has been certified and now it's actually

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in litigation. It looks like a
lot of times these things get settled and

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you know, somebody like me who's
had who's had you know, Sunday ticket

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from day one, might get one
hundred and fifty bucks or something like that.

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But it's interesting, what what what
these days try to do is to

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fix this so that going forward,
you know, whether trying to just get

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the price reduced or get it Sunday
ticket or Sunday ticket type thing be free,

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you know, where everybody, wherever
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whatever game you need. I think
that's ultimately the goal of this, not

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so much to get all this money
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who have had Sunday ticket all this
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just too much going on now.
I will say that in the move to

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YouTube this last year, you can
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I really like that. I saw
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me. That's because the good Day
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see, but I split it because
you can have it on two places at

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one time, two different plays at
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my brother, so he gets to
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then you can watch it anywhere.
Real quick, before we leave here,

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breaking news, I guess three Arizona
baseball players have gone into the transfer portal,

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Brendan Rodgers, Kyle Huff and Nico
Newman. I take a quick guess

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of how many people are in the
baseball portal right now, already fifteen hundred.

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Crazy. How did these guys go? I don't know, sometimes nowhere,

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sometimes nowhere, or back to where
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well, all right, we're gonna
take our next break. We've got

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a decetent shaver, our our firmer
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This is I on the Ball with Steve

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Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. Fox Sports
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IE on the Ball here on Fox
Sports Fortune and fifty. I'm Steve.

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Here's Jay got one with us.
Now we have former intern de Sten Shiver

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from fan Do TV her and her
fans. I guess behind her making all

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that noise. Hey guys, Hey, you ready for tomorrow? I think

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though it's a good, good field
of horses. I think we're gonna have

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some really good racing on Bellmonts take
they how much does the shorter distance affect

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this race? Can can you say
that? I think it impacts it pretty

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significantly. I mean, the Belmont
has been running a mile and a half

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and we've called it the Test of
the Champions for a reason. It being

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run at only a mile and a
quarter I think makes it definitely not as

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tough. And I think the other
thing the factor in it's not being run

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at Belmont Park. It's being run
at Saratoga because Belmont is under construction right

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now and will be for the next
couple of years. So the Belmont is

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going to be running a mile in
a quarter for the next couple of years.

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And I think this year it makes
a big impact for one horse in

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particular, that's Sierra Leone, who
just feels and looks like he wants more

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ground. He always looks like he's
grinding for more and is reaching for more,

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and I was really excited to see
him running a mile and a half.

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And then I remember that Belmont parkas
clubs said, because of the way

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that Saratoga is configured, they can
only run at a mile and a quarter.

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Well, I'm sorry to tell you, but that's who I'm going with.

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Yeah, Sierra Leone will be my
top selection in the Belmont. I

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think he is the top three year
old in the country right now. He

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has shown that I talked about him
for the Derby. He can overcome adversity,

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he can overcome post physician or his
own antics. He is a horse

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that knows his job and loves to
run. Now, the thing is the

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note about sier Leon is he does
have a jockey change coming into this race.

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His normal jockey has been Tyler Gaflio, but he is going to get

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flabby and proud aboard who's a world
class jockey and in general has more experience

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in top level racist. Kyler is
fantastic, he knows the horse really well,

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but Chad Brown just felt that he
wanted a little bit more of aggressive

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rider on him. He's also getting
a bit changed. So the bit that

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he was originally had was broken in
the middle like a hinge, And so

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when you go to pull on one
side to kind of direct a horse,

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it really doesn't do a whole lot
to pull their entire body one way.

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The now bit that he's got in
is a bar all the way across,

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so when you go to pull on
one side, it helps readjust his entire

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body over and that's to help with
the lugging in that we saw during the

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derby where you and Forever Young were
definitely rubbing up against each other. So

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ideally that's to help teach him really
straight and very focused so that he doesn't

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lug in and lose more difference.
So let me ask you real quick,

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why is Bob Beffert not running Moose? So my understanding is because Mouse had

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his fever in the Freakness, he
didn't feel that he was going to be

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back in time and ready and fit
to be able to run in the Belmont,

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horses that get fevers, even if
they go away after twenty four hours,

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it's usually an indication that something else, potentially more serious can be wrong.

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So it's better just to make sure
they have all the proper time off

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so that they can get the Karen
attention that they need so that they can

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come back at their best. Okay, so you've got You've got Si Sierra

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Leone as your as your favorite?
Uh the Kentucky Derby Winter Misstic Dan is

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the next favorite. Where does where
does Mystic dan sit for you. You

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know, I think miss MiG dan
is right up with there. I think

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I would love to see them run
one two if miss mc dan want to

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win. However, the last time
at Kentucky Derby horse won the Belmont was

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your two triple Crown winners and justify
an American Barah. However, that was

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again at that mile and a half, so there's a little bit of a

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bias. Obviously, he's proven at
a mile in the Quarterer having won the

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Kentucky Derby, and there's nothing I
can take away from that that was wrong

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with his breaking his run. He
got the same trip that he did in

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the Derby. It was that rail
trip he staves ground. It was just

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there was another horse out in front
that was just faster than him that day.

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That was what it came down to. But I think missus Dan,

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you know, having beat Sierra Leone
already once does play to his favor.

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I think he did that rail trip
again after drawing the three hole, and

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he just he runs his race and
it looks like it could be a little

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sloppy against tomorrow, which I think
again places who sees the graves benefit as

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he is by arrogate and Airgates loves
the slot and that the dance proven that

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he loves running in the slop.
Pierre Leone doesn't seem to be affected by

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track conditions. So those are just
kind of things that I look for when

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handicapping a race. So what's your
third horse? You know, the third

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horse. I've gone back and forth
on who I throw in mind Frame.

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I've gone back and forth between the
ten mind Frame and the one sees.

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The Gray sees the gray haven't already
been proven. The coach see way and

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Lucas is not afraid to run a
horse back on a short layoff, especially

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if they've come out of the race. We all of which he's the Gray

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has he's They've put videos up of
him on Twitter. He's been very funky,

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just very full of energy and looks
like he's been training really well.

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And again he came out and won
the Breakness by two and a half length

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after stepping up from a mile from
the Pat Day Mile race, which was

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run out of mile at Churchill on
Derby Day, to then come back two

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weeks later in the Freakness. The
only thing that I'm like teetering on with

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mind Frame is he is a full
speed horse, so I think it's very

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likely that they could send him out
and make him run with he's the gray

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to push the pace factor. He
has not been tried in stakes company before,

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and he's his longest race is he's
run was a mile and a the

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Key, so it's very new territory
for him. However, he does have

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a lot of connections backing him,
being a Tod Fletcher trainee. I read

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our keys as a board. We're
Pulley stable zone. However, in the

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last twenty years, a Belmont winner
that has won the Belmont has prepped him

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some court of stake race, whether
a lifted shake or a grated steak,

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or has come out of the Kentucky
Derby race in some way, shape or

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form. So I mean that's kind
of my reservation with him, and the

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fact that he's on the outside.
I feel like you have to go interesting.

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Well, all right, now give
us a long shot. You know,

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one of the longer shots that you
think, okay, this one could

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slip in if certain things happened.
Is the five Entiuitarian, also a top

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platter training. He comes out of
the Great three Peter Pan. He was

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an upset winner that day at about
five to one. He was. He

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won by about three quarters of a
length. He put up a really good

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speed Buyer speed figure again, showed
early speed and ran really evenly. Sorry,

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there's a race going on in the
background. Everybody's really excited. But

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he's my kind of long shot.
That peter Pan has been known to be

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a just our listeners know you're you're
none and it went to a gonna have

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to have the dump button going on
like raere or four times. Well wait,

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well, let let our listeners know
you're at san Anita, right That's

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where you are right now. I
am out of the track right now at

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Santanita. I've been reporting all afternoon, so this is definitely another little switch

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up for me. I was reporting
before this and I'm reporting after this,

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right. But you know, long
shot Antiquitarium, the five came out of

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the peter Pan. In the last
ten years, three out of the ten

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Velmont winners have come out of the
peter Pan. And trusting that way,

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it gave us a Belmont winner at
Archangelo last year with Jenny anthon Ucci,

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00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.799
who became the first female trainer to
win the Velmont. So I think he's

407
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very live in here. This field
I think has a lot of live runners,

408
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and we could very well see an
upset, especially with Sera Leone going

409
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off as such short of a price
as of nine to five morning my favorite.

410
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So let me ask you, on
a day like tomorrow, do you

411
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guys benefit at San Anita for the
big race day. I don't know how

412
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much we would benefit out here at
Santanita, to be honest, because I

413
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don't think I spent Velmont Day out
here. I do know that they are

414
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carting more racist tomorrow to keep people
out here. And it's the misphere a

415
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good horse racing across the country and
come out to the races and you can

416
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watch it here. You can watch
our racing. We definitely did that for

417
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the Derby, they did it for
the Prexis. So there's definitely a really

418
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good atmosphere around racing that people should
want to be around it on these big

419
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days, no matter where they are
around the country. So, you know,

420
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we've there's been a lot of word
about, you know, the three

421
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races and spreading them out a little
bit more and stuff like that. You're

422
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.519
kind of making it easier, which
to me is goes against the whole idea

423
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.960
of the Triple Crown. But you
know, what are your what are your

424
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.160
thoughts on that? Because to me, you know, again I'm a purist

425
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.920
on most things right on whatever sport. What do you think about that?

426
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.559
On both sides, I will play
devil's advocate. I understand that everyone wants

427
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.599
to do it for the safety hum
well being of the horses and the animals,

428
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.640
to stretch it out, give them
more time to rest, maybe help

429
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.200
build field size in that way.
But also the Triple Crown was made to

430
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:56.160
be hard. It's made to test
these three year olds and really push them

431
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to the limits that they can run
at right, and so keeping them closer

432
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.759
together. Some have said, oh, maybe we should do one per month.

433
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.599
One in May, one in June, one is July. But then

434
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.240
I feel like it stretches out too
far and people tend to lose interest.

435
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.720
Like keeping them all really close together, you ghet people to stay interested in

436
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.319
each and every race, and when
you know it is difficult to come back

437
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.759
in two weeks, any trainer will
tell you that, however, the good

438
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.680
ones will go. You know,
if your horses right, your horse is

439
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.519
right, and they're they're gonna run
their race. So I don't want to

440
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.759
see the Triple crown changed in my
lifetime. I have enjoyed seeing, you

441
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.559
know, two triple Crown winners actually
come out in American Pharaoh and justify both

442
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.440
being Bob Baffert trainees. But you
know it can be done, it has

443
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.920
happened. I would like to see
another triple Crown winner in my lifetime with

444
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.519
the schedule that they currently have.
Well remember two three No No One five

445
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.799
years ago, six years ago,
I can't remember the team, the horse

446
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.079
that won the first leg and the
second leg, and then a fresh horse

447
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:56.799
came in and a third leg and
won the race, and everybody who was

448
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.480
up in arms. Those are the
rules, the right rules. And the

449
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:06.000
trainer of the possible triple Crown winner
was it's not fair. Guess what He's

450
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:11.720
been unfair for years. You know, I've said life is fair. Sometimes

451
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.759
things happened, and you know,
if you get beat at the wire by

452
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.920
a nose, you get beat with
wire by a nose. Pierre Leone has

453
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.720
run some of his best races by
getting by the combined and his two losses.

454
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.000
So sometimes you just get on the
wrong end of the nose box.

455
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.000
So also on that note, mystic
Dan is the only horse in this race

456
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.000
that is in there that's been in
all three of these races, right,

457
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.039
isn't it that? Coct So is
that? And then I feel like that's

458
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:37.640
a really big test for him.
It's how far he's come as a three

459
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.880
year old, simply because back in
his two year old year, they did

460
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.200
run him back two weeks after one
race, but he was doing something different

461
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:52.279
in each time where he was start
going around one turn and then they went

462
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.960
him around two turns in his next
race. This time around in the Derby,

463
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.960
you know, he was shortening up
in distance. And Kenyan Peakee has

464
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:04.200
and extremely honest and straightforward about his
preparation that he's done with this horse.

465
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.160
And you know he said right along
as the horses and ride and he's a

466
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.880
training well, if he's not eating
the way he should, we're gonna pull

467
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:12.039
him. We're gonna do what's best
for him and we will rest him.

468
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.559
And he went into the previous he
was training really well. He was cleaning

469
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.359
out his speed bucket and he was
doing everything right. And he's doing it

470
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.640
again coming into this race. He's
doing everything right. He is he is

471
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.240
again licking his food bucket clean.
And he looks really great out on the

472
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.799
training track. So are you having
fun doing this stuff? I am enjoying

473
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.079
doing this. I enjoy watching the
races. I enjoy talking to people about

474
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.359
this. I enjoy watching other people
talk about this so I can have all

475
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.200
the information. It's part of the
reason I became a journalist, because everybody

476
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.960
has a story to tell. Whether
how big or house small is up to

477
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.319
them, but it is important tell
tell us a little bit about that work

478
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.319
that you're doing, because sometimes we
see you, there's clips of you doing

479
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.319
interviews on social media and whatnot.
What is your job and tail as far

480
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:57.960
as that goes, what are you
doing out there? Well, I do

481
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.640
a little bit of everything, Jay. So my main job that I was

482
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:07.599
originally hired for. My job title
of Partner Production Supervisor. So I work

483
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.319
a lot with our sales and marketing
team, with our production team, with

484
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:15.799
our talent team, and anything that
we run on the network for sportsbook,

485
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.160
Casino, FanDuel, racing offers that
air need to be clipped, and Purple

486
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.400
Performance. I'm in charge of sending
out those scripts that once they're handed off

487
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:28.039
to me. Our sales elements where
we have sponsored items around races. It's

488
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.759
my job to get that stuff from
marketing and take it to production and then

489
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.400
see it executed, mark it down, and then tally how much we do

490
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:37.440
each month. So it's anything from
that to sending out on site for almost

491
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.839
to make sure that people know where
we are, to the most recent thing

492
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.319
that's been added are these element trackers, so every backtrack, data, point,

493
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.720
pedigree note, anything that you see
that goes on the screen, I

494
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:54.799
have probably had my hand involved in
some way of being involved. And then

495
00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:00.000
on top of that, I've gotten
the opportunity to expand my talent career,

496
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.880
my interviewing and doing all that fun
stuff on social media and doing some reporting

497
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.440
when they need someone out there at
the Southern California tracks and it's it's been

498
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:15.400
a blast, and she's trying to
avoid the jockey's hitting on her. They

499
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:23.440
tend to be flirt. Did you
really just say telling the truth? That

500
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.799
sounds like if you have watched any
of the videos, you know what the

501
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.720
truth is. I don't know whether
to say good for you or shame on

502
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:36.720
them. I don't know, maybe
a little yeah, but it sounds it

503
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.000
sounds like like a lot of work. I mean, it's it's uh.

504
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.000
I mean, like I all that
you said, I'm like, I don't

505
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.240
know what you're you know, how
you manage all that, all that you

506
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:51.000
know in the course of a day. It's actually a little easier than you

507
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.119
would think. It does sound like
a lot, and there are some days

508
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.759
that it is a lot. But
I do love what I'm doing. I

509
00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.240
do love the opportunities that I've been
able to get through fan duel and more

510
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.839
opportunities to come. Well, good
for you, Good for you, this

511
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.839
is great, thanks to you.
Tell Doug hello, yep, oh,

512
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:08.599
he's listening, so you can tell
him yourself, Doug. Hello, We

513
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.880
miss you, miss dog. All
right, I've got my horses for tomorrow.

514
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.960
I'll let you know if I hear
to thank you for getting me into

515
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.079
the Winter Circle at the Preakness.
That was a It was very coolse I

516
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.840
do appreciate it. No, thanks
for having me, guys, No I

517
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:28.440
blame you if I missed because all
right, do you have fun tomorrow?

518
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.920
Thank you? All right? Thank
you? We will? Oh? Good

519
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.280
cool? All right, man,
it's gonna be checking him. I'm ready

520
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.280
to go chalking tomorrow. I'm ready
to go. All right, let's go.

521
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:38.039
We gotta go. Okay, yeah, we do have to hit the

522
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.239
road. Let's take our last break. We're gonna come back. We'd love

523
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.599
to hear from you. Uh five
to zero four one, six seventy four

524
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:45.639
forty. Give us a buzz.
We were talking earlier about some of this,

525
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.760
you know, high school sports history
in Tusunday front to go into that,

526
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.119
or we can talk about the race
tomorrows. Give us a call.

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at all. It's Steve Rivera and
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Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty.
Hey, welcome back to my on the

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ball hero Fox Sports fourteenth fifteen.
From the facts. What's the facts for

572
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sports sporteen? Well, you're Jay, I'm Steve bis one. You want

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to give us a call five to
zero four one sixty four four zero,

574
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give us a call. Talk about
so I said, there's twenty five high

575
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.800
schools in town, not including the
Saita area. Okay, so maybe twenty

576
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.320
eight. That's two more. Yeah, okay, So that's how it was

577
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.119
twenty one or eleven when you're talking
about it named twenty seven. Now,

578
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.320
tuc Son's kind of gotten a bigger
hung yeah, a little bit, a

579
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.199
little bit over time, over time. You know, it's funny because the

580
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.480
and the thing is that the size
of the schools now, you know,

581
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.400
the schools that are big are around
the outskirts of the city, so there

582
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:59.320
were I think there were I want
to say seven or eight, seven hundred

583
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.920
six six for seven hundred. In
my graduating class, we were close to

584
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.760
three thousand kids in our school.
And now it's like, you know,

585
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:17.320
two hundred or three hundred university University. How big was your class? I

586
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.639
probably couldn't remember. I know it
was pretty big. Okay, Yeah,

587
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.039
what University high is like the smart
the smart kid public school. He's you

588
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.440
must be smart, pretty smart?
What the hell you do want to hear?

589
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.800
Hey, it's the smartest thing he's
ever done. Just just as she's

590
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.840
she's working for for fan duel over
there and you know, making a fortune

591
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:50.960
while we're sitting here doing this for
nothing. I know you're I know you're

592
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.760
on pins and needles about this,
Steve, But it's a Dodgers Yankeesters Zeros

593
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:58.760
are on the top of the third
So I knew you wanted to know those

594
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:04.440
pins and needles really do her?
Yeah? Hey, uh Tiascar Hernandez made

595
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.599
a nice play on a bother but
it was going to be off the fence.

596
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:08.360
But other than that, it's been
uneventful in the first couple of you

597
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:14.079
know what started this week to College
World Series. It did North Carolina facing

598
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.559
still it's still the super Regionals.
Well that's that's why super Region they return

599
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.519
to place this weekend. Well,
I just thought that West Virginia, who

600
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.559
won the the Tucson Regional, is
up on North Carolina at North Carolina,

601
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.079
right, right, this was the
regional that the everyone here, n I

602
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.719
should say everyone a few of the
obnoxious ones we're talking about. Oh,

603
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:39.320
this is l s U versus Arizona
in the Yeah, that obviously never materials,

604
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.840
never materialized exactly. So yeah,
you've got you've got West Virginia at

605
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.679
North Carolina. So I think he
hit a two run homer. Was the

606
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:53.039
two run homer or solo homer,
But they're up, so okay, but

607
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.719
you know, uh, well well
you know we're I mentioned we're trying to

608
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.559
get Roxy Bernstein on the show,
and he's on his he's covering the Kentucky

609
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.039
Super Regional. So that's why he
couldn't come on this week. Okay.

610
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:07.639
Yeah, So there'll be busy.
There's a lot of the guys from this

611
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.960
coast, this side of the world
doing some games. There's anything in the

612
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:19.559
West Oregon State, where state at
home? They don't know that they're at

613
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:24.159
home. You know, everyone,
this is a no brainer comment to everyone

614
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.320
talks about East Coast bias, Midwest
cost whatever it is. There are very

615
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:32.519
few good colleges or good athletic colleges
in the West. Well there's just not

616
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.960
Well there's some good ones, Steve. But the thing is that you go

617
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:37.599
into that, you go into the
NCAA tournament, and you have to go

618
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.559
play at somebody else's I'm talking in
football, basketball, all of them.

619
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.280
You know, come on, we're
on this side of the world. We're

620
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.239
kind of limited this side of Texas
probably where you know, you have the

621
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.639
Oregon, you have Washington, you
have there all the most some of the

622
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.960
top five in the packed Pac twelve. Yeah, and then you have an

623
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:01.280
occasional Mountain West team. But other
than that, you have Gonzaga and basketball.

624
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.679
You know what I'm saying, there's
a very maybe selection in fifteen.

625
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.079
Am I wrong? Where you have
a lot of teams out there? Because

626
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:12.360
there's a lot of teams out there. Let's say here, you look at

627
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.880
this, you know you got you
got Oregon is a Texas A and M

628
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:21.199
they're in They're in the super regional. Then you've got Oregon State is at

629
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.280
Kentucky. It's just, you know, with the way the thing is set

630
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:29.639
up, you know, these the
West teams always have to go on the

631
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.239
road. Sure, once you get
into the tournament like this, and that's

632
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.320
a bunch of bull crap. Well, if if Arizona, if the PAC

633
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.840
twelve was better or perceive to be
better, Look how many teams are left

634
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.039
from the West. Those two?
Okay, but again, if Arizona had

635
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.800
won its regional, they would have
had to go to North Carolina. Well

636
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.679
there were sixteen, I know,
But the point, but the point being

637
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.760
that Arizona promptly shouldn't have been a
thirteen seat. They should have been,

638
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.039
you know, a top eight seat
because they won the PAC twelve and they

639
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:59.239
were I don't know about that.
They lost too straight and that there's a

640
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.960
thirteen I get it, Steve.
Teams lose, you know once you get

641
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.239
in anything. But they were better
than a thirteen seed. They didn't go

642
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.320
in. Of course, they showed
that by winning the league. They didn't

643
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:14.239
show it last week, but they
showed it during the season. They won

644
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:20.039
one of the five major conferences conference
tournament and and the regular season. How

645
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.360
do you not how do you not
say they were not one of the best

646
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:28.159
day, I'm not disagreeing with you
and finished after last week's performance, there

647
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.760
was a lot of people that said
they shouldn't even deserve to be Well,

648
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:32.599
that's a bunch of bull crap too. Well everybody, like we say,

649
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:37.360
there's no right or wrong answer,
but no, mine's mine's right. The

650
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.719
proof they did not play well.
They played terrible, and that's what we

651
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.519
have they but other teams play terrible
too, even even when their top ranked.

652
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.159
You know, Purdue losing them to
a sixteen seed in basketball, you're

653
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.360
gonna tell me they didn't deserve to
be a number one seed. Where I'm

654
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:59.400
going is that? Is that the
favoritism, the bias towards the teams in

655
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.079
the South, in the East,
it works against the teams in the West.

656
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.280
It just doesn't. If you're telling
me that that's not a thing,

657
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:07.800
I think youre No, no,
no, that's a thing. But in

658
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.440
this case, I don't think it's
a thing. Did you pay attention to

659
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.119
baseball with Arizona? Yeah? Did
they deserve to be uh in the top

660
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:21.800
sixteen? I believe were they seated
in the right spot. I believe so

661
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.159
in the right spots should have been
higher. I don't think so. I

662
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:27.599
think they were me too, they
were perfect me too, because if you're

663
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.079
at thirteen, you should still win. You're you're I get it. So

664
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:35.440
they didn't. They didn't play.
Look, I'm not debating. They did

665
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:40.039
not play. They did not play
like even the thirteen seed in the tournament.

666
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:44.559
My point, p you didn't know
that going in that they were going

667
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:46.840
to play like that. Okay,
you did not know that. To me,

668
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.880
they were They won one of the
five power conferences, won the conference,

669
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.320
and won the tournament. They should
have been one of the top eight

670
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.119
seeds in I don't tournament. I
don't know about that. I don't know

671
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:00.880
about that. If anybody wants to
call, please and join in and save

672
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.119
me or save Jy, because I
don't. I don't truly believe that because

673
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.199
they there was some thought that they
should not even have deserved to be in

674
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:14.679
the top sixteen team for whatever that
So I understand that. I'm just saying

675
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.719
that. It's like, you know, it's just like Steve that that you

676
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.239
know, these teams that come out
here and win, you know, especially

677
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.519
in the PAC twelve when their confidence
don't get the respect that a third place

678
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.559
team in one of the other league's
gains. I don't disagree with that.

679
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.639
I think you know what we'll eventually
do is we'll have Andy Lopus, and

680
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.920
I think he'll agree with you for
that point. I don't disagree with you

681
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.679
on that point. But this specific
point with Arizona being at thirteen or you

682
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.440
said an eight, I don't see
that. We'll ask somebody who would know

683
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.559
to see if that's true, if
that should be. I don't think that's

684
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.920
true. I just don't think there
is enough there was enough value put on

685
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.199
Arizona to have done what they did
in the regular see a record, what

686
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.400
was the record. They didn't have
a great year. They just didn't.

687
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.559
But they won their they won a
power conference. But you also have to

688
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.360
look at the body of work before
the conference started it. But again,

689
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:12.880
they don't put any value to what
you do to win a championship. Yes,

690
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.800
okay, and I say that purposely
like that because yeah, okay,

691
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.880
maybe, but still they didn't have
a great They were thirty one and twenty

692
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.440
one. I can't remember that they
were like thirty seven and twenty two or

693
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:29.800
something like that. J but they
but again, you know, Kentucky didn't

694
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.159
win its league, Tennessee didn't win
it's you know, but that's a tough

695
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:36.800
league. The Pac twel is a
tough en. Here help me here one.

696
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.320
I think you're gonna see this a
lot in college football with the expansion.

697
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:45.000
You're gonna get a Big twelve champion
and they're saying Kansas is the favorite

698
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.639
now and then you're gonna have a
Georgia who might lose in the SEC championship.

699
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.960
They're a fifth seed. You know, they're more than likely gonna be

700
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:57.400
better than Kansas. But Kansas is
nothing's fair. I hear. I know,

701
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.800
I know what you're saying, and
you're I said that kind of right,

702
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.760
because you're right. Look, I
look, I was a proponent with

703
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:14.000
with uh you know, when they
were talking about expanding the the college football

704
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.119
playoff, and even before I was
a believer that, you know, when

705
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.400
when there's four teams that if you
didn't win your league, you should not

706
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.880
be in the playoffs. That right
when there were there were only four spots,

707
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.159
five conference champions and then there would
be a team in there that didn't

708
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.480
win its conference championship would get in
the would get in the damn playoffs.

709
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:37.639
I you know, I'm just somebody
that says, if you're gonna have conferences

710
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.000
and you're gonna win your conference,
you should get something for that. And

711
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.360
and you know, and there's too
many people out there that are east of

712
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.960
the Mississippi that don't believe in that
because they want, you know, they

713
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.599
want Georgia and Alabama in the playoffs
every year when one of them did not

714
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.800
win their league. There's a built
in bias with everything. And I don't

715
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.480
do agree that that's happened. And
in fact, I just said, there's

716
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.719
very few Western Coast Conference games or
West Coast teams that are valid to get

717
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:07.840
in because there's just a few of
them. But see, and it was

718
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.360
always like that, even people even
when the Pac twelve was tough and PRACT

719
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.760
ten was tough and there still wouldn't
get as many teams as the SEC or

720
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:22.280
or whoever else because because of this
bias that continues today. That's why that's

721
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.760
one of the reasons I'm happy about
being in the Big twelve, because I'm

722
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:29.519
hoping some of that bias goes away
because we're not in the Pac twelve anymore.

723
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:31.719
You know, you're gonna have to
see their games because they're gonna play

724
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:35.760
at times that you have to see
them, and they're gonna play these teams

725
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.559
that other that the other people that
the media and and and committees and whatnot

726
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.159
on the East are gonna have to
see him playing now and have to recognize

727
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.760
you be prepared for being biased.
But going back, going back to why

728
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.440
Michael Penix did not win the Heisman
Trophy because not enough people saw him,

729
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:57.119
I don't. I don't disagree with
that, and I and I I've honestly

730
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.960
said that there is a East Coast
bias because of the time difference in this

731
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:06.119
case, not so much with baseball
not who else are these guys in Oregon

732
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.519
State probably should have should have been
a host, Have they been better or

733
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.360
whatever? They were probably the best
team in the league in the Pac twelve,

734
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.639
but it was they they did the
league and arizonly been the top thirteen.

735
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.320
They were probably perfect perfectly placed,
and they just didn't play well last

736
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.480
week, right, Yeah, no, they they well I don't think they're

737
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:29.480
perfectly placed, but they didn't play
well, you know, you know,

738
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.400
I mean, I I agree with
that, Steve. They didn't show that

739
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:36.679
they were any good. You know, they didn't show that they deserved better

740
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.599
than than what they got there in
their in terms of their seating, no

741
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.119
doubt, but I'm not I don't
dispute that for a second. I mean,

742
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.559
I'd be an idiot to say otherwise. My point is is that for

743
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:51.679
what they achieved during the season by
winning their conference and the conference tournament,

744
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.239
they shouldn have been They shouldn't have
been in the second half of the Sea

745
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.480
is sure theory applied for college basketball
as well. Given let me tell you

746
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.880
something, there's a degree there's there's
a degree of bias for Arizona. They

747
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.079
give Arizona more of a leeway for
them, even though they're There have been

748
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:15.000
times that that that the nineteen ninety
seventh season, I didn't think they deserved

749
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.840
a four seed, and they got
what they got, and that's what they

750
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.239
got, and they played their heads
right. I thought they I thought they

751
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:22.440
should have been a six or seven. They were. They were the fifth

752
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.960
place team in the league. What
was Arizona this year? Basketball? Six

753
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:30.280
two? There were two two and
they've been highly That was fine, and

754
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.360
they didn't That was right right,
That was right where they were seeded,

755
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.800
right where they need I did.
I was perfectly fine, even the last

756
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.800
two years. So they've been kind
of biased to the benefit of they have.

757
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:45.840
They have been. But but think
about that time that Washington won the

758
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.639
PAC twelve and they were like an
eight seed, and they were and they

759
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.559
were and they were the only I
think they were one. Yeah, in

760
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.280
basketball, one or two teams that
you got in the league and the champions

761
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.280
like a seven or an eight seed. Come on, no, what happens.

762
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:06.159
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm
thinking in this this instance specifically,

763
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:12.519
Arizona was not overseated. But you're
you're basing it on how they ended up

764
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:17.360
playing. Erase how they played,
that's how the only erase how they played

765
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.880
in the in the in the regional
race, how they played in the regional

766
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:28.000
as a PAC ten conference and tournament
champion going in, shouldn't they have been

767
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.079
one of the top eight seeds in
the country. I know, aren't your

768
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:35.199
questions easily know? Because they got
exactly where they should have been placed because

769
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.400
of that. Had they not been, had they not been champions, they

770
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.800
would have been some other set of
number two somewhere. That's fine, they

771
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.199
were perfectly placed. That would have
been fine, one agree with me.

772
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.639
No one's called in to agree with
me. This is this is what I

773
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:58.760
put up with Monday through Thursday.
Even you, I understand totally what you're

774
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.599
saying. You have I know what
I'm saying. So I do understand what

775
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.320
you're saying. And I'm telling you
I think you're wrong. I know exactly

776
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.199
what you're saying. I'm not wrong. Are you wrong? I'm never wrong?

777
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:17.760
You must be hispanic? Well one
of us is wrong in this room.

778
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:27.159
Okay, Amy me, I see
what you're saying. Jay, It's

779
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.480
full of craft. You're funny.
You're funny. All right, Okay,

780
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.039
Hey, good show, the good
shows. Just we gocome back? When

781
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.920
did you come back? Wednesday?
I got back Wednesday, two days to

782
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.639
piss each other on. We spent
some time with the with the PEMA Sports

783
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:45.559
Hall of Fame was great having Tom
Danny, he Pat Darcy who runs the

784
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.599
thing and also is a member.
And then Jerry Goestallum today. Jerry's a

785
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.440
good friend and he did a nice
job and so so just last second,

786
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.440
boy Victor, who sends me these
notes all time. You know what do

787
00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:01.079
you say? Fire Chip God out
of here? Vic? But he does

788
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:05.360
it all the time. Go have
a beer. All right. It was

789
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.840
a fun week, so thank you
again. Jega Sound, thank you today.

790
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.800
D stend Shaver with your tips for
the Belmont. Let us know next

791
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.519
week how you did. I've got
my four horse box. I'm ready to

792
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.320
go for tomorrow. Okay, all
right, thanks a bunch everybody, have

793
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:16.920
a great weekend.