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I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacob Zewis. Now we have one with breaking news,
Eye on the ball, Breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Alrighty,
So with some NFL news to start off, the Kansas City Chief Vice
President Rick Burkeholder gave a positive update on BJ Thompson, who went into suffering
seizars and cardiac arrest Thursday while in his special Teams meeting. But he's awake,
he's doing good and responding well to everything. That's just crazy, you
know, when an athlete like that, he's only twenty five. I can't
imagine, you know, what's going on with your body that that happened.
Just announced recently, Randy Gregory issuing the NFL and the Denver Broncos claiming discrimination
over being fined over five hundred k for taking medication containing th HC for disabilities
during his brief time in Denver. See what happens with that. Uh,
I don't know. I mean there, I don't know. I'm not I
guess I shouldn't even say anything because I don't know to the NBA. Yeah,
last night, the first game of the Finals took place. The Celtics
put a pretty good beat down on the Dallas Mavericks for Game one. They
did and uh and uh, I got see you can thank me for you
know, getting you some some dough on. No, no, I'm never
gonna do that. I had this victory a long time ago if I took
got it with Chris, so I'm happy about that. No, No,
don't, don't. Don't tempt faith and screw with me all the time.
Though there's got a few with a few more games left, there is there
is I would rather you go the other way. I'm okay. Well,
I'll just tell you right now, I'm seriously considering taking Dallas Dallas money line
at the next game. In the next game, go right ahead. I'm
okay with it all right. With the Lakers head coaching position open, they're
looking at possibly taking down Hurly as the top candidate from the Yukon Huskies.
Well, they had their meeting today. Yep, I think just thing just
rolled up on social media that he he's expected to be offered one hundred million
dollars over eight years. I think he's making what is he making now?
Five five? And they just re up to last year. I just renewed
him. At what point in people's lives and I think we've had a discussion
before. Do you say that money is the money doesn't matter, it's not
an issue because you already have a boatload already. Well, certainly, if
you're making five million a year, you've made, you've made and are making
plenty of money, and and you're comfortable at what you do and very good
at what you do. So regardless of what, whther it's one hundred million
dollars or eighty million dollars or whatever the million dollars is, you know,
in the end, Bobby heard is gonna have to be comfortable with if he
decides to take this job, that he's gonna be comfortable with living in LA
and all that comes with it. There's the question, you know, and
and not just living in LA but having that job and all that comes with
it, right, and all that comes in Now he has said that,
you know, he does aspire to coach in the NBA, and so if
they you know, if you're gonna coach in the NBA and you get to
leap right up to the Lakers, you know, you don't have to go
coach the Wizards or you know, some scrubby team that you know, the
Sacramento Kings or whatever, then why wouldn't you? The reason is Michael Michael
Magic Johnson is not coming through those doors. Is Louel Cinder and and Lebron.
Lebron doesn't have a lot of time left. No, I don't know.
I don't know. If I and everybody talks about the challenge of the
next thing, sometimes it's just leave well enough alone and continue to be good
at what you do. But again, you know, with with where he
is, you know his choice will ultimately be about more than the money.
You would think if he's a smart guy. Well if well, I guess
he's married, right, Yes, this ain't this anty decision, but himself
it's not. And she is from His wife is from Kenneticut, So she's
from there, you know. I mean he said that at the you know,
at the at the final four. You know, if he does do
something that you know he's got to. He's got to check with his wife
first, so we'll see, you know, I for one, would be
interested to see what he could do with the Lakers, said, do you
do you want him to go to the Lakers? I think he has a
chance to be the next coach K of this generation, right, That's why
I personally want to see him at he can keep it up, maybe even
go for the three p Right now, who is next coach K? I
have my name, Tommy Lloyd. I don't know just who Bill so Ugh?
Is there anything even close? Yeah? Yeah, he's won a bun,
but he's just not He's a freaking cheater. He's not that guy though.
Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, this is college
basketball. The thing about it with him and he talked about this, I
don't say a lot, Jay, because you were in the room, when
I was in the room when he talked about the NIL stuff and having to
deal with that crap now. Yeah, And and I think your point with
Ariema said that, yeah he's coaching pros. They're all coaching pros now,
and why not just coach pros and deal with it. I still don't say
that. And maybe it's a question to be have with Brennan or Tommy just
to get a quote. And how how how is that going to be?
How is that now because they're doing it now because they're paying the kids to
get the point of your point across. As a coach, you gotta run
faster, play harder, YadA YadA, and the coaches not that the players
don't do this to get them to do that for the check cashing. Yeah,
does that make sense? It makes total sense, Steve. It changes
the dynamic for sure. Yeah, completely. Yeah. When before you had
the bench and you had the thing and you had to, you know,
to get them to play hard. Now they don't care. On the bench,
the chicks are still checks are cashing. You know, maybe I'm looking
at it wrong. Well, well, here here's the thing. The great
athletes, the guys who are athletes, they'll they'll play for sure a check
or no check, and they're going to give you their best, regardless of
whether they're making ten thousand or a million dollars. But there are going to
be some out there who are in it for the check, right, and
you're only going to get as much as the check will will dictate. There
are going to be some guys like that there are guys like that in the
pros. Right if they're not getting paid, they're not playing right. Right.
So now that that whole dynamic comes to the college level, which it's
gonna be interesting to see how coaches at the college level deal with that when
they've never had to deal with that, you know, and it may be
that you may maybe, you know, when when when schools, now for
the big programs, are hiring a new coach, they might go get a
pro coach who's dealt with this and who has been able to handle you know,
the the the egos and the dynamics of of of coaching players who think
they're pros because you know what, an eighteen year old making a half a
million dollars a year is a scary sounding no coaching situation. But in my
world, I've done for a long time and you've done it, you know,
for some time. There's fewer people in this world that have bigger egos
than coaches at this level on the next because they're the next guys who are
going to coach the guys uh, the adans and bla blah blah blah.
I can get them to change. I can make it happen. But and
guess what happens. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. And I mean
I think, you know, there were some athletes, Steve who, even
before they were making this kind of money, uh you know, thought they
were all that in a bag of chips again you know, uh uh yes,
uh you know. Mario Bates came up, you know, his name,
came out to call. And I just remember chasing Michael Baits around and
he's a you know, an eighteen year old kid who just had this stride
and just this approach that you know, and I'm an adult chasing him around
to find out where he's going to go to school. And he was kind
of like, I'm big stuff and you're not, you know, and and
that's you know, and that's how so many you know, so they were.
There were kids. There were kids like that even before this money is
sure of course, well that's hell almost said words. I know those dudes,
I know those as I played with those dudes. Their poop doesn't stink,
yeah, or they think it does, think it any Eventually you get
there and go, god, it sounds really bad. All right, Sorry
about that? Okay? Good? So for the Spring Football League. They're
having their semifinals this weekend. The Panthers play the Stallions on Saturday and then
the BrahMos play the battle Hawks on Sunday. All right, we don't know.
I don't think any Arizona guys are so Scooby right, used to be
on the stand Scooby retired Lorenzo Burns, former cornerback. He was in the
really more of the Kevin someone years. He's on the Stallions too. Okay,
Yeah, so tho Stallions. Yesterday, the Oklahoma Sooners repeated as softball
champions, their fourth in a row. Pete, Yeah, they were just
good. Did you see. I saw a lot of that game just out
of curiosity. These girls are just fantastic. I mean it's hard to beat
them. Yeah, I mean, Texas was a number one in the country
and Okla and they're just so good. And I'm just trying to remember seeing
how the game has changed, because you know, we saw the Arizona softball
team dominate during their time. It's not like this though, this is different.
It was different. Yeah, I didn't watch it. It's just so
they're just so good. Yeah, I you know, I was rooting against
him just because I root against heavy favorites like that. I know they were
the two seed and Texas was the one seed, but yeah, I had
to think going in that oklahom was gonna win this thing, and they did
for sure. Last thing I got Team US a beat cricket powerhouse Pakistan in
the Historic World Cup. Yeah. I just thought that was a little bit
at least their first year. So beat the quote unquote powerhouse. You got
all these you got all these people on social media saying the United States is
now a cricket power Do you understand? Have you ever watched the cricket match?
You know what it works or what it is not at all. I
just know that Team USA be Pakistan, and I think a bunch of the
team, a bunch of the players on the US team are of Pakistani origin.
So but it's it's funny that people are like claiming, Okay, we're
the power now and in cricket. It was all done the cheek, of
course, of course, okay, anything else. Yeah, you know,
I came across this just a little bit ago. Do you do you get
you get the Sunday Ticket? You know, well, I've been a Sunday
Ticket subscribers since from the get go. Apparently there was an anti trust lawsuit
out there against the NFL and Direct TV. And the reason this is news
is because the class action lawsuit has been certified now by a California judge.
So it really it doesn't get to this point unless there's a reasonable chance that
there's there's something to this. But Direct TV and the NFL are being sued
saying that they violated an anti trust laws because you had to buy this Sunday
ticket package to see games out of your market, and in addition that it
was at a very inflated price, so that you know, we were paying
more than we should have been, and that a lot of this stuff should
have been available either at a lesser price or just in general. How much
was it? How much is the lawsuit? How much is the ticket?
Sunday ticket it runs? I think it runs about four hundred bucks three four
hundred bucks a year? And yours? What was your purpose of getting to
be able to see any game I want to see? But okay, so
you didn't game day? What's what's the game day? You're thinking? You're
thinking of red zone? No, because that's what I watch. I watch,
which is that's why everyone's a d D and have so many things.
But was the other one the other one's game day or because the NFL has
its own game choice. I don't know what that's it Sunday Ticket. But
you can watch game, you can watch you can watch the actual games with
Sunday Ticket. When you watch games, not these ones are are highlights like
red the Red Zone right, Oh no, this is different. This is
this is my point. This is Sunday Ticket that comes with Red Zone.
You pay four hundred dollars to watch any game you want. You'll be able
to watch any game? How much can you adopt me? That's why?
Well I split it, split it with the Okay, the reason I say
is you can watch Red Zone and see games whenever they're being played. You
know what, Well for I, I mean I I just love having a
choice to be whatever. Again I want to watch and so now, And
I mean I subscribe to it from the very beginning. And I used to
be like one hundred and twenty bucks or whatever, and the price kept going
up. I think this last year is four hundred dollars, which carded me
to split with be like a seven point one billion dollar seven they're seeking seven
point one billion dollars in damages, and so you know, it could be
I whether or not this goes through, it's just that it's it's reached a
point that now it's serious. Uh. You know, lawsuits like this,
it takes a long time for them to process through. And so now it's
gotten to the point where the class action has been certified and now it's actually
in litigation. It looks like a lot of times these things get settled and
you know, somebody like me who's had who's had you know, Sunday ticket
from day one, might get one hundred and fifty bucks or something like that.
But it's interesting, what what what these days try to do is to
fix this so that going forward, you know, whether trying to just get
the price reduced or get it Sunday ticket or Sunday ticket type thing be free,
you know, where everybody, wherever you live, you get to watch
whatever game you need. I think that's ultimately the goal of this, not
so much to get all this money and pass it out to all these people
who have had Sunday ticket all this time. I love Sunday ticket. I
do. I can't watch I watch red Zone sometimes, but I'm like it's
just too much going on now. I will say that in the move to
YouTube this last year, you can put like four screens and watch for it.
I really like that. I saw the ad yesterday. I gotta give
me. That's because the good Day is used to be a picture. Yeah
see, but I split it because you can have it on two places at
one time, two different plays at one time. So I split it with
my brother, so he gets to watch it, I get to watch and
then you can watch it anywhere. Real quick, before we leave here,
breaking news, I guess three Arizona baseball players have gone into the transfer portal,
Brendan Rodgers, Kyle Huff and Nico Newman. I take a quick guess
of how many people are in the baseball portal right now, already fifteen hundred.
Crazy. How did these guys go? I don't know, sometimes nowhere,
sometimes nowhere, or back to where they came from. Yeah, yeah,
well, all right, we're gonna take our next break. We've got
a decetent shaver, our our firmer intern now a fandual TV reporter. She's
gonna come on, she's gonna give us our Belmont tips for the race tomorrow.
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Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to
IE on the Ball here on Fox Sports Fortune and fifty. I'm Steve.
Here's Jay got one with us. Now we have former intern de Sten Shiver
from fan Do TV her and her fans. I guess behind her making all
that noise. Hey guys, Hey, you ready for tomorrow? I think
though it's a good, good field of horses. I think we're gonna have
some really good racing on Bellmonts take they how much does the shorter distance affect
this race? Can can you say that? I think it impacts it pretty
significantly. I mean, the Belmont has been running a mile and a half
and we've called it the Test of the Champions for a reason. It being
run at only a mile and a quarter I think makes it definitely not as
tough. And I think the other thing the factor in it's not being run
at Belmont Park. It's being run at Saratoga because Belmont is under construction right
now and will be for the next couple of years. So the Belmont is
going to be running a mile in a quarter for the next couple of years.
And I think this year it makes a big impact for one horse in
particular, that's Sierra Leone, who just feels and looks like he wants more
ground. He always looks like he's grinding for more and is reaching for more,
and I was really excited to see him running a mile and a half.
And then I remember that Belmont parkas clubs said, because of the way
that Saratoga is configured, they can only run at a mile and a quarter.
Well, I'm sorry to tell you, but that's who I'm going with.
Yeah, Sierra Leone will be my top selection in the Belmont. I
think he is the top three year old in the country right now. He
has shown that I talked about him for the Derby. He can overcome adversity,
he can overcome post physician or his own antics. He is a horse
that knows his job and loves to run. Now, the thing is the
note about sier Leon is he does have a jockey change coming into this race.
His normal jockey has been Tyler Gaflio, but he is going to get
flabby and proud aboard who's a world class jockey and in general has more experience
in top level racist. Kyler is fantastic, he knows the horse really well,
but Chad Brown just felt that he wanted a little bit more of aggressive
rider on him. He's also getting a bit changed. So the bit that
he was originally had was broken in the middle like a hinge, And so
when you go to pull on one side to kind of direct a horse,
it really doesn't do a whole lot to pull their entire body one way.
The now bit that he's got in is a bar all the way across,
so when you go to pull on one side, it helps readjust his entire
body over and that's to help with the lugging in that we saw during the
derby where you and Forever Young were definitely rubbing up against each other. So
ideally that's to help teach him really straight and very focused so that he doesn't
lug in and lose more difference. So let me ask you real quick,
why is Bob Beffert not running Moose? So my understanding is because Mouse had
his fever in the Freakness, he didn't feel that he was going to be
back in time and ready and fit to be able to run in the Belmont,
horses that get fevers, even if they go away after twenty four hours,
it's usually an indication that something else, potentially more serious can be wrong.
So it's better just to make sure they have all the proper time off
so that they can get the Karen attention that they need so that they can
come back at their best. Okay, so you've got You've got Si Sierra
Leone as your as your favorite? Uh the Kentucky Derby Winter Misstic Dan is
the next favorite. Where does where does Mystic dan sit for you. You
know, I think miss MiG dan is right up with there. I think
I would love to see them run one two if miss mc dan want to
win. However, the last time at Kentucky Derby horse won the Belmont was
your two triple Crown winners and justify an American Barah. However, that was
again at that mile and a half, so there's a little bit of a
bias. Obviously, he's proven at a mile in the Quarterer having won the
Kentucky Derby, and there's nothing I can take away from that that was wrong
with his breaking his run. He got the same trip that he did in
the Derby. It was that rail trip he staves ground. It was just
there was another horse out in front that was just faster than him that day.
That was what it came down to. But I think missus Dan,
you know, having beat Sierra Leone already once does play to his favor.
I think he did that rail trip again after drawing the three hole, and
he just he runs his race and it looks like it could be a little
sloppy against tomorrow, which I think again places who sees the graves benefit as
he is by arrogate and Airgates loves the slot and that the dance proven that
he loves running in the slop. Pierre Leone doesn't seem to be affected by
track conditions. So those are just kind of things that I look for when
handicapping a race. So what's your third horse? You know, the third
horse. I've gone back and forth on who I throw in mind Frame.
I've gone back and forth between the ten mind Frame and the one sees.
The Gray sees the gray haven't already been proven. The coach see way and
Lucas is not afraid to run a horse back on a short layoff, especially
if they've come out of the race. We all of which he's the Gray
has he's They've put videos up of him on Twitter. He's been very funky,
just very full of energy and looks like he's been training really well.
And again he came out and won the Breakness by two and a half length
after stepping up from a mile from the Pat Day Mile race, which was
run out of mile at Churchill on Derby Day, to then come back two
weeks later in the Freakness. The only thing that I'm like teetering on with
mind Frame is he is a full speed horse, so I think it's very
likely that they could send him out and make him run with he's the gray
to push the pace factor. He has not been tried in stakes company before,
and he's his longest race is he's run was a mile and a the
Key, so it's very new territory for him. However, he does have
a lot of connections backing him, being a Tod Fletcher trainee. I read
our keys as a board. We're Pulley stable zone. However, in the
last twenty years, a Belmont winner that has won the Belmont has prepped him
some court of stake race, whether a lifted shake or a grated steak,
or has come out of the Kentucky Derby race in some way, shape or
form. So I mean that's kind of my reservation with him, and the
fact that he's on the outside. I feel like you have to go interesting.
Well, all right, now give us a long shot. You know,
one of the longer shots that you think, okay, this one could
slip in if certain things happened. Is the five Entiuitarian, also a top
platter training. He comes out of the Great three Peter Pan. He was
an upset winner that day at about five to one. He was. He
won by about three quarters of a length. He put up a really good
speed Buyer speed figure again, showed early speed and ran really evenly. Sorry,
there's a race going on in the background. Everybody's really excited. But
he's my kind of long shot. That peter Pan has been known to be
a just our listeners know you're you're none and it went to a gonna have
to have the dump button going on like raere or four times. Well wait,
well, let let our listeners know you're at san Anita, right That's
where you are right now. I am out of the track right now at
Santanita. I've been reporting all afternoon, so this is definitely another little switch
up for me. I was reporting before this and I'm reporting after this,
right. But you know, long shot Antiquitarium, the five came out of
the peter Pan. In the last ten years, three out of the ten
Velmont winners have come out of the peter Pan. And trusting that way,
it gave us a Belmont winner at Archangelo last year with Jenny anthon Ucci,
who became the first female trainer to win the Velmont. So I think he's
very live in here. This field I think has a lot of live runners,
and we could very well see an upset, especially with Sera Leone going
off as such short of a price as of nine to five morning my favorite.
So let me ask you, on a day like tomorrow, do you
guys benefit at San Anita for the big race day. I don't know how
much we would benefit out here at Santanita, to be honest, because I
don't think I spent Velmont Day out here. I do know that they are
carting more racist tomorrow to keep people out here. And it's the misphere a
good horse racing across the country and come out to the races and you can
watch it here. You can watch our racing. We definitely did that for
the Derby, they did it for the Prexis. So there's definitely a really
good atmosphere around racing that people should want to be around it on these big
days, no matter where they are around the country. So, you know,
we've there's been a lot of word about, you know, the three
races and spreading them out a little bit more and stuff like that. You're
kind of making it easier, which to me is goes against the whole idea
of the Triple Crown. But you know, what are your what are your
thoughts on that? Because to me, you know, again I'm a purist
on most things right on whatever sport. What do you think about that?
On both sides, I will play devil's advocate. I understand that everyone wants
to do it for the safety hum well being of the horses and the animals,
to stretch it out, give them more time to rest, maybe help
build field size in that way. But also the Triple Crown was made to
be hard. It's made to test these three year olds and really push them
to the limits that they can run at right, and so keeping them closer
together. Some have said, oh, maybe we should do one per month.
One in May, one in June, one is July. But then
I feel like it stretches out too far and people tend to lose interest.
Like keeping them all really close together, you ghet people to stay interested in
each and every race, and when you know it is difficult to come back
in two weeks, any trainer will tell you that, however, the good
ones will go. You know, if your horses right, your horse is
right, and they're they're gonna run their race. So I don't want to
see the Triple crown changed in my lifetime. I have enjoyed seeing, you
know, two triple Crown winners actually come out in American Pharaoh and justify both
being Bob Baffert trainees. But you know it can be done, it has
happened. I would like to see another triple Crown winner in my lifetime with
the schedule that they currently have. Well remember two three No No One five
years ago, six years ago, I can't remember the team, the horse
that won the first leg and the second leg, and then a fresh horse
came in and a third leg and won the race, and everybody who was
up in arms. Those are the rules, the right rules. And the
trainer of the possible triple Crown winner was it's not fair. Guess what He's
been unfair for years. You know, I've said life is fair. Sometimes
things happened, and you know, if you get beat at the wire by
a nose, you get beat with wire by a nose. Pierre Leone has
run some of his best races by getting by the combined and his two losses.
So sometimes you just get on the wrong end of the nose box.
So also on that note, mystic Dan is the only horse in this race
that is in there that's been in all three of these races, right,
isn't it that? Coct So is that? And then I feel like that's
a really big test for him. It's how far he's come as a three
year old, simply because back in his two year old year, they did
run him back two weeks after one race, but he was doing something different
in each time where he was start going around one turn and then they went
him around two turns in his next race. This time around in the Derby,
you know, he was shortening up in distance. And Kenyan Peakee has
and extremely honest and straightforward about his preparation that he's done with this horse.
And you know he said right along as the horses and ride and he's a
training well, if he's not eating the way he should, we're gonna pull
him. We're gonna do what's best for him and we will rest him.
And he went into the previous he was training really well. He was cleaning
out his speed bucket and he was doing everything right. And he's doing it
again coming into this race. He's doing everything right. He is he is
again licking his food bucket clean. And he looks really great out on the
training track. So are you having fun doing this stuff? I am enjoying
doing this. I enjoy watching the races. I enjoy talking to people about
this. I enjoy watching other people talk about this so I can have all
the information. It's part of the reason I became a journalist, because everybody
has a story to tell. Whether how big or house small is up to
them, but it is important tell tell us a little bit about that work
that you're doing, because sometimes we see you, there's clips of you doing
interviews on social media and whatnot. What is your job and tail as far
as that goes, what are you doing out there? Well, I do
a little bit of everything, Jay. So my main job that I was
originally hired for. My job title of Partner Production Supervisor. So I work
a lot with our sales and marketing team, with our production team, with
our talent team, and anything that we run on the network for sportsbook,
Casino, FanDuel, racing offers that air need to be clipped, and Purple
Performance. I'm in charge of sending out those scripts that once they're handed off
to me. Our sales elements where we have sponsored items around races. It's
my job to get that stuff from marketing and take it to production and then
see it executed, mark it down, and then tally how much we do
each month. So it's anything from that to sending out on site for almost
to make sure that people know where we are, to the most recent thing
that's been added are these element trackers, so every backtrack, data, point,
pedigree note, anything that you see that goes on the screen, I
have probably had my hand involved in some way of being involved. And then
on top of that, I've gotten the opportunity to expand my talent career,
my interviewing and doing all that fun stuff on social media and doing some reporting
when they need someone out there at the Southern California tracks and it's it's been
a blast, and she's trying to avoid the jockey's hitting on her. They
tend to be flirt. Did you really just say telling the truth? That
sounds like if you have watched any of the videos, you know what the
truth is. I don't know whether to say good for you or shame on
them. I don't know, maybe a little yeah, but it sounds it
sounds like like a lot of work. I mean, it's it's uh.
I mean, like I all that you said, I'm like, I don't
know what you're you know, how you manage all that, all that you
know in the course of a day. It's actually a little easier than you
would think. It does sound like a lot, and there are some days
that it is a lot. But I do love what I'm doing. I
do love the opportunities that I've been able to get through fan duel and more
opportunities to come. Well, good for you, Good for you, this
is great, thanks to you. Tell Doug hello, yep, oh,
he's listening, so you can tell him yourself, Doug. Hello, We
miss you, miss dog. All right, I've got my horses for tomorrow.
I'll let you know if I hear to thank you for getting me into
the Winter Circle at the Preakness. That was a It was very coolse I
do appreciate it. No, thanks for having me, guys, No I
blame you if I missed because all right, do you have fun tomorrow?
Thank you? All right? Thank you? We will? Oh? Good
cool? All right, man, it's gonna be checking him. I'm ready
to go chalking tomorrow. I'm ready to go. All right, let's go.
We gotta go. Okay, yeah, we do have to hit the
road. Let's take our last break. We're gonna come back. We'd love
to hear from you. Uh five to zero four one, six seventy four
forty. Give us a buzz. We were talking earlier about some of this,
you know, high school sports history in Tusunday front to go into that,
or we can talk about the race tomorrows. Give us a call.
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Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to my on the
ball hero Fox Sports fourteenth fifteen. From the facts. What's the facts for
sports sporteen? Well, you're Jay, I'm Steve bis one. You want
to give us a call five to zero four one sixty four four zero,
give us a call. Talk about so I said, there's twenty five high
schools in town, not including the Saita area. Okay, so maybe twenty
eight. That's two more. Yeah, okay, So that's how it was
twenty one or eleven when you're talking about it named twenty seven. Now,
tuc Son's kind of gotten a bigger hung yeah, a little bit, a
little bit over time, over time. You know, it's funny because the
and the thing is that the size of the schools now, you know,
the schools that are big are around the outskirts of the city, so there
were I think there were I want to say seven or eight, seven hundred
six six for seven hundred. In my graduating class, we were close to
three thousand kids in our school. And now it's like, you know,
two hundred or three hundred university University. How big was your class? I
probably couldn't remember. I know it was pretty big. Okay, Yeah,
what University high is like the smart the smart kid public school. He's you
must be smart, pretty smart? What the hell you do want to hear?
Hey, it's the smartest thing he's ever done. Just just as she's
she's working for for fan duel over there and you know, making a fortune
while we're sitting here doing this for nothing. I know you're I know you're
on pins and needles about this, Steve, But it's a Dodgers Yankeesters Zeros
are on the top of the third So I knew you wanted to know those
pins and needles really do her? Yeah? Hey, uh Tiascar Hernandez made
a nice play on a bother but it was going to be off the fence.
But other than that, it's been uneventful in the first couple of you
know what started this week to College World Series. It did North Carolina facing
still it's still the super Regionals. Well that's that's why super Region they return
to place this weekend. Well, I just thought that West Virginia, who
won the the Tucson Regional, is up on North Carolina at North Carolina,
right, right, this was the regional that the everyone here, n I
should say everyone a few of the obnoxious ones we're talking about. Oh,
this is l s U versus Arizona in the Yeah, that obviously never materials,
never materialized exactly. So yeah, you've got you've got West Virginia at
North Carolina. So I think he hit a two run homer. Was the
two run homer or solo homer, But they're up, so okay, but
you know, uh, well well you know we're I mentioned we're trying to
get Roxy Bernstein on the show, and he's on his he's covering the Kentucky
Super Regional. So that's why he couldn't come on this week. Okay.
Yeah, So there'll be busy. There's a lot of the guys from this
coast, this side of the world doing some games. There's anything in the
West Oregon State, where state at home? They don't know that they're at
home. You know, everyone, this is a no brainer comment to everyone
talks about East Coast bias, Midwest cost whatever it is. There are very
few good colleges or good athletic colleges in the West. Well there's just not
Well there's some good ones, Steve. But the thing is that you go
into that, you go into the NCAA tournament, and you have to go
play at somebody else's I'm talking in football, basketball, all of them.
You know, come on, we're on this side of the world. We're
kind of limited this side of Texas probably where you know, you have the
Oregon, you have Washington, you have there all the most some of the
top five in the packed Pac twelve. Yeah, and then you have an
occasional Mountain West team. But other than that, you have Gonzaga and basketball.
You know what I'm saying, there's a very maybe selection in fifteen.
Am I wrong? Where you have a lot of teams out there? Because
there's a lot of teams out there. Let's say here, you look at
this, you know you got you got Oregon is a Texas A and M
they're in They're in the super regional. Then you've got Oregon State is at
Kentucky. It's just, you know, with the way the thing is set
up, you know, these the West teams always have to go on the
road. Sure, once you get into the tournament like this, and that's
a bunch of bull crap. Well, if if Arizona, if the PAC
twelve was better or perceive to be better, Look how many teams are left
from the West. Those two? Okay, but again, if Arizona had
won its regional, they would have had to go to North Carolina. Well
there were sixteen, I know, But the point, but the point being
that Arizona promptly shouldn't have been a thirteen seat. They should have been,
you know, a top eight seat because they won the PAC twelve and they
were I don't know about that. They lost too straight and that there's a
thirteen I get it, Steve. Teams lose, you know once you get
in anything. But they were better than a thirteen seed. They didn't go
in. Of course, they showed that by winning the league. They didn't
show it last week, but they showed it during the season. They won
one of the five major conferences conference tournament and and the regular season. How
do you not how do you not say they were not one of the best
day, I'm not disagreeing with you and finished after last week's performance, there
was a lot of people that said they shouldn't even deserve to be Well,
that's a bunch of bull crap too. Well everybody, like we say,
there's no right or wrong answer, but no, mine's mine's right. The
proof they did not play well. They played terrible, and that's what we
have they but other teams play terrible too, even even when their top ranked.
You know, Purdue losing them to a sixteen seed in basketball, you're
gonna tell me they didn't deserve to be a number one seed. Where I'm
going is that? Is that the favoritism, the bias towards the teams in
the South, in the East, it works against the teams in the West.
It just doesn't. If you're telling me that that's not a thing,
I think youre No, no, no, that's a thing. But in
this case, I don't think it's a thing. Did you pay attention to
baseball with Arizona? Yeah? Did they deserve to be uh in the top
sixteen? I believe were they seated in the right spot. I believe so
in the right spots should have been higher. I don't think so. I
think they were me too, they were perfect me too, because if you're
at thirteen, you should still win. You're you're I get it. So
they didn't. They didn't play. Look, I'm not debating. They did
not play. They did not play like even the thirteen seed in the tournament.
My point, p you didn't know that going in that they were going
to play like that. Okay, you did not know that. To me,
they were They won one of the five power conferences, won the conference,
and won the tournament. They should have been one of the top eight
seeds in I don't tournament. I don't know about that. I don't know
about that. If anybody wants to call, please and join in and save
me or save Jy, because I don't. I don't truly believe that because
they there was some thought that they should not even have deserved to be in
the top sixteen team for whatever that So I understand that. I'm just saying
that. It's like, you know, it's just like Steve that that you
know, these teams that come out here and win, you know, especially
in the PAC twelve when their confidence don't get the respect that a third place
team in one of the other league's gains. I don't disagree with that.
I think you know what we'll eventually do is we'll have Andy Lopus, and
I think he'll agree with you for that point. I don't disagree with you
on that point. But this specific point with Arizona being at thirteen or you
said an eight, I don't see that. We'll ask somebody who would know
to see if that's true, if that should be. I don't think that's
true. I just don't think there is enough there was enough value put on
Arizona to have done what they did in the regular see a record, what
was the record. They didn't have a great year. They just didn't.
But they won their they won a power conference. But you also have to
look at the body of work before the conference started it. But again,
they don't put any value to what you do to win a championship. Yes,
okay, and I say that purposely like that because yeah, okay,
maybe, but still they didn't have a great They were thirty one and twenty
one. I can't remember that they were like thirty seven and twenty two or
something like that. J but they but again, you know, Kentucky didn't
win its league, Tennessee didn't win it's you know, but that's a tough
league. The Pac twel is a tough en. Here help me here one.
I think you're gonna see this a lot in college football with the expansion.
You're gonna get a Big twelve champion and they're saying Kansas is the favorite
now and then you're gonna have a Georgia who might lose in the SEC championship.
They're a fifth seed. You know, they're more than likely gonna be
better than Kansas. But Kansas is nothing's fair. I hear. I know,
I know what you're saying, and you're I said that kind of right,
because you're right. Look, I look, I was a proponent with
with uh you know, when they were talking about expanding the the college football
playoff, and even before I was a believer that, you know, when
when there's four teams that if you didn't win your league, you should not
be in the playoffs. That right when there were there were only four spots,
five conference champions and then there would be a team in there that didn't
win its conference championship would get in the would get in the damn playoffs.
I you know, I'm just somebody that says, if you're gonna have conferences
and you're gonna win your conference, you should get something for that. And
and you know, and there's too many people out there that are east of
the Mississippi that don't believe in that because they want, you know, they
want Georgia and Alabama in the playoffs every year when one of them did not
win their league. There's a built in bias with everything. And I don't
do agree that that's happened. And in fact, I just said, there's
very few Western Coast Conference games or West Coast teams that are valid to get
in because there's just a few of them. But see, and it was
always like that, even people even when the Pac twelve was tough and PRACT
ten was tough and there still wouldn't get as many teams as the SEC or
or whoever else because because of this bias that continues today. That's why that's
one of the reasons I'm happy about being in the Big twelve, because I'm
hoping some of that bias goes away because we're not in the Pac twelve anymore.
You know, you're gonna have to see their games because they're gonna play
at times that you have to see them, and they're gonna play these teams
that other that the other people that the media and and and committees and whatnot
on the East are gonna have to see him playing now and have to recognize
you be prepared for being biased. But going back, going back to why
Michael Penix did not win the Heisman Trophy because not enough people saw him,
I don't. I don't disagree with that, and I and I I've honestly
said that there is a East Coast bias because of the time difference in this
case, not so much with baseball not who else are these guys in Oregon
State probably should have should have been a host, Have they been better or
whatever? They were probably the best team in the league in the Pac twelve,
but it was they they did the league and arizonly been the top thirteen.
They were probably perfect perfectly placed, and they just didn't play well last
week, right, Yeah, no, they they well I don't think they're
perfectly placed, but they didn't play well, you know, you know,
I mean, I I agree with that, Steve. They didn't show that
they were any good. You know, they didn't show that they deserved better
than than what they got there in their in terms of their seating, no
doubt, but I'm not I don't dispute that for a second. I mean,
I'd be an idiot to say otherwise. My point is is that for
what they achieved during the season by winning their conference and the conference tournament,
they shouldn have been They shouldn't have been in the second half of the Sea
is sure theory applied for college basketball as well. Given let me tell you
something, there's a degree there's there's a degree of bias for Arizona. They
give Arizona more of a leeway for them, even though they're There have been
times that that that the nineteen ninety seventh season, I didn't think they deserved
a four seed, and they got what they got, and that's what they
got, and they played their heads right. I thought they I thought they
should have been a six or seven. They were. They were the fifth
place team in the league. What was Arizona this year? Basketball? Six
two? There were two two and they've been highly That was fine, and
they didn't That was right right, That was right where they were seeded,
right where they need I did. I was perfectly fine, even the last
two years. So they've been kind of biased to the benefit of they have.
They have been. But but think about that time that Washington won the
PAC twelve and they were like an eight seed, and they were and they
were and they were the only I think they were one. Yeah, in
basketball, one or two teams that you got in the league and the champions
like a seven or an eight seed. Come on, no, what happens.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm thinking in this this instance specifically,
Arizona was not overseated. But you're you're basing it on how they ended up
playing. Erase how they played, that's how the only erase how they played
in the in the in the regional race, how they played in the regional
as a PAC ten conference and tournament champion going in, shouldn't they have been
one of the top eight seeds in the country. I know, aren't your
questions easily know? Because they got exactly where they should have been placed because
of that. Had they not been, had they not been champions, they
would have been some other set of number two somewhere. That's fine, they
were perfectly placed. That would have been fine, one agree with me.
No one's called in to agree with me. This is this is what I
put up with Monday through Thursday. Even you, I understand totally what you're
saying. You have I know what I'm saying. So I do understand what
you're saying. And I'm telling you I think you're wrong. I know exactly
what you're saying. I'm not wrong. Are you wrong? I'm never wrong?
You must be hispanic? Well one of us is wrong in this room.
Okay, Amy me, I see what you're saying. Jay, It's
full of craft. You're funny. You're funny. All right, Okay,
Hey, good show, the good shows. Just we gocome back? When
did you come back? Wednesday? I got back Wednesday, two days to
piss each other on. We spent some time with the with the PEMA Sports
Hall of Fame was great having Tom Danny, he Pat Darcy who runs the
thing and also is a member. And then Jerry Goestallum today. Jerry's a
good friend and he did a nice job and so so just last second,
boy Victor, who sends me these notes all time. You know what do
you say? Fire Chip God out of here? Vic? But he does
it all the time. Go have a beer. All right. It was
a fun week, so thank you again. Jega Sound, thank you today.
D stend Shaver with your tips for the Belmont. Let us know next
week how you did. I've got my four horse box. I'm ready to
go for tomorrow. Okay, all right, thanks a bunch everybody, have
a great weekend.