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We' re here this Monday,
April 1. We' re starting a

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month. As I said, in
everything to see a little while ago,

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but welcome to this new month,
month four of this year, two thousand

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twenty- four. That' s
magic. Det' s meagc or Doctor

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amen Hello, how about good night, because very happy to be here again.

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It' s good that my chair
was kept in place, because I

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was already afraid. That' s
not true. And the other thing to

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say is lupita about that it'
s already month four that fast. I

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can only say one thing. I
think I' m going to start soaking

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the cod already to finish in time
to shred. It' s going too

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fast. Welcome, Efra Baby,
backward merculo girls. How were you news

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which signposts? Leo read the company. How they were motitos for Lupito and

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me, because the fires and the
ones there that we' re going to

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be quiet, we' re not
going to feel it. Oh, good

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bless God, good thing you'
re telling me Glory to God. There

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are three of us, so,
yes, well, we are going to

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start this day today, this Monday, first of April. I think what

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we need to do right now is
a thorough analysis of what we' re

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seeing. It' s very important. I' ll open it. I

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made this film in the previous recommendation
program and recommended it because it' s

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really imperative that everyone see it for
the times we live in. It'

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s a thousand nine hundred and thirteen. Two thousand thirteen, The Hunt The

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Hunt. I could see it on
Apple TV. The RENT is a Danish

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Swedish film. This Danish Swedish film
talks about a Kinder teacher who, because

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he has many friends, is very
loved by his community, is very respected

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by the children, has a great
relationship with all his Kinde students and has

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one. There' s a little
girl who' s the daughter of her

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best friend. He realizes that his
best friend' s marriage lives in litigation

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and then he says hey, I
support you with your little girl. Then

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she took her to school and so
on, the little girl looking for this

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father figure that gives her peace,
for she writes a letter with a little

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heart. Well, she doesn'
t describe, because she' s barely

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learning to write, but she does
put him in it about his name and

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gives him a little heart and he, of course, says no, because

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you can' t give it to
me. Not because it' s not

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right. One doesn' t explain
to him that way, but in understanding

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that his five- or six-
year- old student says thank you,

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but you can' t give this
to me, give it to one of

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your classmates. That' s what
he says. The little girl feels totally

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betrayed by the teacher who has planted
the personality of the understanding and loving father

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who will take care of her and
then decides to say. On the other

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hand, in those days, I
repeat, parents have family problems and have

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a teenage child. In the same
days that this happens, the teenage son

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teaches his sister on an iPad very
quickly. Look, look, this is

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the member of a man with the
words that correspond to the And then the

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little girl, when she' s
disappointed with her dad' s friend who

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at the same time her teacher says
I' m angry with Lucas, because

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Lucas taught me his member and described
it, but she' s repeating the

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words of her teenage brother. The
principal takes what the child says very seriously.

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They send for a special and the
specialist induces and deduces the girl At

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some point, when he sees that
Lucas his teacher is having such a hard

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time, he tells his dad and
his mom he first tells his mom he

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didn' t do anything to me. I said nonsense and the mom says

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no. No. No. The
thing is, you don' t want

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to remember. When you interview the
specialist, the girl asks and she says

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well, I don' t remember, but I didn' t really do

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anything to her. So, then, what you see is how this man

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who is innocent is separated from his
post, has only the absolute trust of

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his son, of his son who
is also a teenager and, of course,

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of the father, of the godfather, of his son, also that

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he is a relative of his with
two other friends, who are the only

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ones who remain unconditional and believe in
him. But everyone else, the whole

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Community closes its doors and let you
see how in a small, small community,

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the truth can be distorted so much
and how you can exist the swelling

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and discrediting of a person who is
innocent. In the end, the end

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is the end, because I don' t know if I should tell them.

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It' s a movie that was
made in two thousand thirteen. Anyway,

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but what the film makes clear is
that this disparagement is like a marked

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footprint. It remains as a stigma
in people, even if they are innocent

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and it is shown that they are
innocent and even if all come out,

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acquitted, lying, leaves it engraved
something on him and then it will eventually

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cost him to recover. But the
film ends a year later. The film

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is called The Hunt or the Hunt, but I wanted to comment on it

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as a principle, I repeat in
another show I mentioned it as a movie

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recommendation that I recommend to you as
an analysis of what we are living in

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many, many times and with many
characters. Elisabethruman doesn' t follow the

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end. I mean, it'
s a story you' ll see,

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because it' s the development of
a social lynching, of disparagement. When

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a person is damaged in its integrity
in a fact he did not commit and

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that is the start of the film. I' m not telling you that

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' s how the movie starts.
The approach is his work with children and

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the film starts When this girl says
she was five years old, she accuses

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him of having done things without measuring
the consequences. I think the first thing

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is that we learn to measure it. How can you consider that you don

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' t mean that you lie?
Eh it means that up to a certain

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age children learn with symbolism and,
besides, they are very prone to fantasy

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and to put things together. It
doesn' t mean they' re lying.

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It means that his thought is still
a little fanciful and until later it

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will be the age from the seven
years that begins, which is when the

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primary begins that thought evolves and cognitive
proxies are others, but I think it

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is very important, because that happens
sometimes in these societies. It is what

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we are seeing that then the truth
is confused with these media lynchings. When

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someone just saw him with Calimbauta,
I pass on the word, we just

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met Kalimba, who accuses him and
we said it on Friday. A woman

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comes out at the age of nineteen, says I am thirty- two,

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but at the age of nineteen she
abused me and I stayed a story ago

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and Calimbo salt and she says I' m tired of getting dirty in my

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image and this was not true.
And anyway, I don' t know

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how you guys see it, because
in the end, Kalimba, I hope

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you can contain this lynching, but
of many people we' ve seen these

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half- truths stay or stupid,
because personally I can say it, I

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mean, I dare say it.
Mr Infante, Gustavo Adolfo Infantes, has

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dedicated himself to defaming me and I
have received messages that correspond to the stupidities

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he has told him that they are
lies, which are clearly lies. However,

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people do. People do it without
knowing for the ultimate purpose of harming

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the other person and the image of
another person, doctor, please note that

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while I was listening to you talk
about this movie I haven' t seen

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him, but believe me I have
a lot of interest. Finishing the program,

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I will surely look for it because, like you, I was not

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here on Friday I was out being
a very beautiful short trip, very rewarding

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in a very beautiful place in the
Mexican Republic. But what a coincidence that

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Lupita Efraín, when listening to you, reminded me of what a person,

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a family member, who is a
very prepared woman, who works in special

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education, told me about how she
at this very moment in her life,

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also has a certain responsibility in groups
of specialists in special education, with a

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career in psychology and another has given
me and others dedicated for many years to

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this situation of inclusion of people with
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And he was just telling me about
a person who' s lived something

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like what you just told me,
but this just happened. He is a

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colleague who is dedicated to helping to
integrate children, especially those with autism spectrum

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disorders into regular education. And just
something similar has happened where there is a

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confusion in one of these children who
also have difficulty communicating and right now is

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having a terrible time with this accusation
is already in prison. The person and

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the entire group of fellow teachers who
know him and who consider that this did

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not happen are dismayed and without knowing
what to do. But what we were

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discussing was that no one is going
to want to even carry out this kind

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of work. Nobody' s gonna
want to do it anymore. For the

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same reason, because it is already
a risk to your integrity, because imagine

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yourself not, then it hurts me
deeply. I' m very concerned and

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I' m also concerned about what
we say over and over here. Ephraim

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constantly points out how the truth of
one so possible victim is then distorted by

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this other situation. Then you have
to be very responsible, very delicate.

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I was telling this person what barbarity, that is, there should be cameras

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in all these schools. We'
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' re talking about schools, some
of them. She told me they are

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almost rural, because they are like
in the periphery, between the rural and

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the urban let' s say and
where with which there will be cameras everywhere,

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so that it is monitored and you
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happen in those classrooms so important the
bad that does happen as important what does

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not. So it' s very
painful, very distressing. I find it

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horrible and I saw them for moments, I saw them on Friday talking about

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this kalimba issue. I did find
it very important to take that part back.

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Not to say that this woman who
shows up with her video is affected,

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yes, she looks like something'
s wrong with her. But they

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also said to calm him down from
the face. That' s what they

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said and that' s what it
was then. In that sense it seems

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good, good that he goes out
to Defenderse also reminded me very much at

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the time, when Michael Jackson did
his thing regardless of what everyone believes,

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he is no longer there, but
when he made this video and this song

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from The Man in the my not- so- like mistake. When he

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said I' m no longer going
to water my head like in the past

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to supposedly invite a scandal that,
anyway, happened and now I' m

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here. So from that point of
view, I would start by saying how

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good it is that kalimb is going, because he has given his face and

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of course you know, because it
is also ex- emphasis that in the

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case of Michael Jackson, who to
this day, even after his death,

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continues to point out him as an
austere victim. The victims and the alleged

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victims said years later, he never
did anything to me and my parents forced

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me to confess. That' s
disparagement and social swelling. When the lord

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wanted to prove that he was innocent
in every way and in the end,

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years later, when he is no
longer there, the alleged victims go out

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to say it was Ephraim' s
lie, specifically in the case of Kalimba,

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because just that Calimba has gone out
to say that they investigate me.

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I want to clear my name.
I mean, he left us perplexed and

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with his mouth he kept quiet at
least to me because he went out to

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give his face and he was thanked, not then, because then he has

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other dyes. When he goes out
and says yes, that is to say

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that neither who knows will always remain
in doubt. Because, unfortunately, there

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' s always going to be doubt. And on the weekend I left thinking

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that once in a class they called
him a teacher is not that the paradigms

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that humanity is breaking. And so
I' d say and when that paradigm

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is over, it' s going
to see another, there' s going

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to be another, there' s
going to be another. No, and

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I kept thinking about the pendulum.
Not so long ago the abusers were protected.

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Everybody shut up. Nobody say anything. And now for everything we'

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re going to believe, let'
s say yes, you don' t

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even want to investigate anymore, nothing
else because they said yes. Let'

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s just get a box of witches
and end up with all the heads and

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see if you can. We do
not need, as a society and especially

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in a country like Mexico, to
understand the right to the person, to

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his presumed exact innocence, which is
so important and so we all have to

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fight, because we have the case
so many things that we have seen so

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rare, because we are not giving
as a society, we are so angry

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for so long of unjust things that
then someone says he is guilty and everyone,

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to save us and wash our hands, we say he is guilty.

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Of course she said he' s
guilty. Then everyone because look at you

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girls, too. That' s
what I was thinking we talked about here

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on Petit Committee of the Three to
socially imbue. I have to believe that

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truth because if not, if I
question the truth that are socially forcing me

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to believe I am already wrong and
I think that also an issue that we

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have to start to question very much
the question and fulfills us of the people

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and also the revenges and everything that
we have seen around these cases is something

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very serious and socially. Yeah,
I think we need to start doing something.

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I loved what Kalimba said, starting
work, someone being unfairly accused uploads

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a video, gives a statement to
a magazine, is investigated. It fascinated

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me. The truth is, Carinma
fell into my mouth. I mean,

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really and I mean it with all
the straw, it' s not like

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I think we kept the doubt,
we didn' t even say it was

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the fault of what I moment simply
has to go out and calin Basal and

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he says now I already have a
family. I may have made a lot,

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or I don' t even say
I made mistakes a family and they

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want to hurt me and they want
to damage my career. There are people

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like that apparently and I also heard
that this woman who said she was thirty

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- two years old already was nineteen, her Tiktok account disappeared. No one

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finds her anymore, she didn'
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' s what happened to the grub
case. What happened to this one,

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Mrs ura Zapata? What happened to
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where they monetize, where you can
maybe win that video is not monetized,

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but you can gain enough fame to
eventually monetize elsewhere. And then, but

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then, a gossip like that makes
me very famous. I pull people,

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and then I can accuse Mr Kalimba, because as he already has a little

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lionarcito in the past And so on, why not, how good that he

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comes out, stops at the press, talks to the press and says no.

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I' m here to defend myself. I' m not, I

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' m not guilty and I'
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look. It turns out to be
very much a contradiction here, that is,

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not contradictory, but there is one
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there will be perpetrators who are 100% perpetrators and there will be others who

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are not perpetrators in any way.
So when you make organizations I insist and

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forgive you that you always bring this
case. But it' s the only

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case I know, as Sacha alzocohol
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the only case I know, which
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Well, we' ll be able
to say that he' s been found

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guilty and he' s been charged
and it' s over, but of

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all the others. But it is
not the least suitable to make an organization

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to defend men who have been accused. Not because he has been tested and

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tested and in the light of all, for he was guilty. But in

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this case, it is very difficult. It' s like this little girl,

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I insist, it' s not
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time, because we have said so, a woman can take fifty years to

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denounce a bully or. It may
take fifteen minutes or it may never take

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you or your whole life not to
do so, it is not the time

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in which you report it, it
is the anonymous way in which you do

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it, it disappears, because if
you have denounced it in Tiktok, then

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go to the prosecutor' s office
and get up or to the prosecutor'

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s office and file one on your
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' m clear and also the authorities. Then the job will be to take

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all those elements from whom he accuses
and also to take all the elements of

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the accused when he defends himself and
when he proves his own and with all

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that giving him the proper weight,
for to reach the just conclusion that we

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all expect. And it' s
not like Ephraim said, and I give

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that word, this pendulum, too. Not all against, against, against?

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All in favor, all on one
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turning the boat, bowing, not
but putting everything in place and preparing a

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good investigation. What should always be
done. And this subject that really,

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if someone lies on something so serious
or exaggerated statement or something like that,

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they take up the matter, because
yes, it can' t be possible

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that we' re seeing that the
cases are replicating no and that it'

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s already like a threat. I
don' t mean this or this option

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or this option doesn' t and
I have you in my hands. I

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mean, it' s not about
that, because then, sometime and I

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don' t know maybe I'
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but a friend told me, far
from starting to become feminists, we became

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drunk. No and then this becomes
a tear, because we are all against

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all and the law of the heel
And then, as you did to me,

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I do to you and then they
turn revenge. And I do believe

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that revenge, since it' s
the eight- year- old boy,

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kills the poison anyway, I don' t mean, he doesn' t

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feel anything. Justice is what we
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not seeing justice. We' re
seeing cases of lynching girl payback, because

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that' s what we can talk
about Friday, sorry. But I also

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wanted to pick up Ahorita, because
Efrain says my mouth fell Kalinda, I

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think very, very, very cute
on your part. You can say it

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like that, but the truth is, what I saw from you is that

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I did say that you said that
he would have to face it and that

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he gave it well. It wasn' t like I said,' cause

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if you' d said, and
I' m sure he won' t

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face it, then yes, but
he says I stood up and gave it.

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But besides, it seemed very emphatic
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he says I am a family father, I am not being discredited. I

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' ve got my kids not worth
it, because it' s also true.

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That' s not the argument you' re defending yourself against an accusation.

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So because you' re going to
be really dad today and really cute

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and whatever you want. But if
you did something wrong, done, done

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that is, then that wasn'
t the argument, but the argument is

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here I' m asking you to
investigate it very well and that' s

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the correct and expected argument nothing more. That' s all, but it

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wasn' t the other one but
I' m good people right now and

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I take care of my that wasn' t, but he straightened out his

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way and to this day, so
soon, I think that' s the

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best I could have done what he' s doing now. No, and

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I' m going to tell you
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re all three here because we like
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So I was already watching the interview
with Kalimba, and then the lawyer and

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Kalimba and then they said about this
case of Melisa. They remained silent,

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they said no. We' ll
see about this later, that is,

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sometimes the prints of the past or
when you kill a dog, you become

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the dog killer. The dogs and
unfortunately, the traces of our past are

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going to haunt us many times and
I think the most notice I keep thinking

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the smartest. If you made a
mistake in the past, it' s

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going to be when it' s
that mistake or go out and tell them

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if I was wrong, because if
these things don' t happen, the

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mistake is going to chase you.
He' s going to chase you and

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he' s going to come back
in another form, he' s going

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to magnify and parasol we believe in
karma, because he' s going to

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bring it back seven times until he
learns the lesson. So I did and

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I wanted to feel that, because
it did come out that nice to take

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a look at that subject. But
the Melisa issue didn' t say anything.

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He let it be seen that they
were seeing whether or not they were

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going to reach an agreement. Then
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maybe this case isn' t real, but there may be others who do,

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and unfortunately you would have to face
up to all the cases exactly.

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But, well, it' s
also good that he defends himself, because

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it' s like climbing up the
boat, not that he' s going

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to circulate to the front and once
and to the other, I climb here,

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but well he brings a lawyer.
It was clear, he showed up

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and that' s it. There
is no order of anything against him,

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despite what they had said. There' s no order against it because that

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' s where it came up and
that' s it. On the other

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hand, last week, which we
had not even put on the cover of

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the show, this note emerged again
with respect to Mr Patricio Cabezote. I

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find this case worrying again. I
insist on the way things are taken and

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the way things are done. First, the big wedding is first announced and

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it is announced that the big wedding
between Patricio cabezut and now shoe and then

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how beautiful, what a father.
Then it turns out that she wants to

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divorce and then it turns out that
she sues because, then, there is

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no pension, because she doesn'
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re seeing that publicly in the notes. No money, no money, give

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me forty- one cents or forty. Feels like that, pulled out a

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ridiculous thing he published a day.
I mean, I wasn' t giving

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him anything, but the other man, because he had no money, so

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whatever, uh, I don'
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The case is that the origin of
this whole lawsuit is a divorce and

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the pension later turns out. This
has happened, for two thousand and sixteen

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thousand and twenty, seems to me
two thousand and twenty pandemics, and then

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we see two thousand and twenty.
Something like a report of family violence.

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We see later and we present her
in this program the crying of the lady

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crying because the police had arrived,
they had already broken the sheets of her

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house to enter for the girls,
because she had not fulfilled two years with

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the visits she had to make,
that is, the girls had to see

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her dad and for two years she
had not met the boys, with the

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girls and then, because she had
to comply with that order of the judge.

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Not in those two years there was
no more complaint than domestic violence.

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That' s all there was.
And the pension, after the judge orders

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this question of breaking into the house
so that the girls can see their father,

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then accuses him of abuse when in
two and a half years the girls

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have not seen their parents in a
way otherwise irresponsible, otherwise absurd. I

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see today morning in the first-
hand morning. First I saw him in

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joy with Flor Rubio and Ricardo Casares, who were quite prudent to mention this

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note and stressed over and over again. You have to play this very carefully.

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You have to touch this with tweezers. It was Flor' s words

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of shock GoF pence, which is
fine, because we must all have learned

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that by now. You have to
treat them like this with tweezers and then

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they treat it, they pose it, that is, they present it as

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it should be informative, but with
care. Chain three on this man'

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s show. It' s good. The sun rises with Johanna be gaviestrona

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Maria Alvarado and the other person.
Turns out they present the reporter who took

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out the note on Friday, who
is a very respectable reporter, does a

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great job on red note. He' s a reporter who knows everything that

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' s going on in Mexico City. Carlos Jiménez, in his area is

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Juan Camanei. Then he gets it, they give them the authority to say

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whether it was true or not,
and then they can argue there both the

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east driver and Carlos Jiménez to say
that the girls had been tested. I

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don' t know what, and
then that meant he was guilty, because

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the proof had thrown, because the
proof had said. When everyone we'

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ve tested, everyone we' ve
done batteries, then we know they'

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re all manipulable. And two girls
who haven' t seen their father for

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two and a half years in the
hands of a mom who in the audios

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heard that she was saying, well, to see what I accuse you of

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seeing what I demand of you,
because I still don' t know what

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I' m going to sue you
for. They may well have been manipulated.

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I' m not saying it is, but of course, they may

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have been manipulated. Two and a
half years without seeing the father told them

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about this movie where there' s
a girl who has a fantasy, where

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the mom tells her what' s
going on is that you don' t

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remember. But if it happened to
you and you put it, it did

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happen to me, I don'
t remember. That' s just the

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way it is. No and then
I insist Mr Carlos mén is an expert

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in what he does, but he
is not an expert in mental health,

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he is not an expert or in
dealing with minors. It is not a

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clear expert and, first of all, this whole sequence that you relate of

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the accusations and of these facts how
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No, I mean, they start
at least serious and still not long

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ago. This lady goes out to
cry without tears saying that they are wanting

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to force the girls to see the
dad and that she won' t allow

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it because she feels terrified and in
danger, like saying the authority is not

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giving my place to me or I
don' t believe myself. And then

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it turns out that always yes,
the authority has already turned an arrest warrant

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against this gentleman because it turns out
that they have already found that he has

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had this behavior failed and then the
reporter you mention say yes, well,

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points out that he has been tested, which is called the project antennas that

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has to do with a virtual doll
that talks with the children and others that

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the truth, with all the respect
for the doctor specialist in clinical psychology who

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develops it seems to me very stupid. And, moreover, very much from

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the time we live, where children
communicate very well with everything that has to

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do with virtual issues and so on, but that obeys the same principle of

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Melani Cline. When you develop this
play therapy with children through dolls carts and

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trains that describe the mental world of
the little ones, it has nothing to

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do with it. But they'
re part of how you said Lupita a

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moment ago, they' re part
of what' s known as test batteries.

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Unfortunately, there is no proof that
we already know a whole truth with

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it, and there is no proof
that is infallible, let alone that is

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not manipulable. There are three conditions, that is, tests are part of

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a battery. Number two is fallible
so they are part of a battery,

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because the other tests can yield other
results that add up to a conclusion.

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And three, yes, they are
all manipulable. Then there is no such

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thing as, like other tests,
like a blood test that, perhaps does

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give us a more accurate data of
something sadly in psychology matters. It'

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s not like that. Not then
it seems to be more than talking about

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it being done in a particular way. No, then, that' s

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where you start to have other doubts, too. Sometimes the test where they

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did to him as they did to
him. And then how is it that

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then the prosecution does, takes it
as good and then decides to turn an

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arrest warrant. That makes a world
of other doubts. And here, right

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now, I give you the word
defrain, sorry. But here we have

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to underline, and that is why
I mentioned the film that I told you

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at the beginning that because of this
kind of imprudent, partial comments for all

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partial lights, wanting to be the
Plane and Sabia, they know but do

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not know the whole thing. But
that' s where social swelling is sown,

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that' s where it gets lynched, because, in addition, it

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' s imprudence and unfortunately, because
these kind of people ignorant of certain issues

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are the ones who have the power
of a microphone that ends and ruins entire

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lives, Ephraim, then it'
s first of all. Melisa stole all

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00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:36.240
my paragraph because I pointed out the
three things I did. I' ll

415
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:41.519
give you another order. Yes,
but it is said Carolina Amaral says today

416
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.920
Jorge Carvajal showed a role where corruption
is pointed to the judge in the Cabezuth

417
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.079
case. Thank you, Jorge Carvajal. He always has all the data,

418
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:53.440
but well, he does have the
other real data, the other real data.

419
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.039
It' s very strong. I
think he likes Volfo a san and

420
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.160
what is a battery weighs and the
other sign is surely a great journalist.

421
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.680
But I was watching the show and
I was very outraged. I said how

422
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.359
dare you. I mean, well, I don' t even know that

423
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.039
that' s an expert or that' s really saying no. Yeah,

424
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.359
sure, there' s the truth, and look at you, he'

425
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.160
s gonna tell you one thing.
A mel says the batteries are not infallible,

426
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.319
because they do not because they give
quantitative qualitative data. Then you can.

427
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:27.200
And even a quantitative battery, one
that takes your blood or takes your

428
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:33.240
blood, can also be altered.
Then there' s nothing infallible. That

429
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.039
' s all there is to it. That' s why they' re

430
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:41.720
not long and you can' t
go out after an interview on a little

431
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:41.920
show and point out people to destroy
life just like that. For real rating

432
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:48.279
we have to worry as a society. And this isn' t for Gustavo

433
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.119
Adolfo, it' s for whoever. We really have to be very careful

434
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.920
about what we say and how you
said it because it really destroys a person

435
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:02.279
' s life just by making you
the one you know a lot, when

436
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:07.319
you don' t even know it' s a battery, or how a

437
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:15.480
battery works, how a test is
done how to tune in. You have

438
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:21.759
no idea and you go out and
say you' re there, but you

439
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.119
' re almost sure and you cut
your head off because it' s no.

440
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:29.480
Mr Carlos Jiménez said it was infallible. See says healthy and she said

441
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.240
the test was infallible. There is
no infallible proof. Write to Mr Carlos

442
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.440
Jiménez that there is no infallible proof, There is not even a people.

443
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:45.160
The doctor who develops it is a
specialist in clinical bpsychology. It seems to

444
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:49.680
me that her surname herself says that
she is very proud and pleased to have

445
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:56.599
managed to develop that diagnostic instrument,
because, she says me, they say

446
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.160
much more, that is, the
children say much more when they talk to

447
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:06.759
him pretty, this of what they
would talk to me about, because of

448
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.680
course with an adult person that sometimes
perceives you threatening, the child opens less

449
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.200
and opens up more with this virtual
character, which is like very friendly and

450
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:15.200
very friendly. Of course it opens
the child I tell you how in the

451
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.799
clin times it opened with the little
monkey you gave representing I don' t

452
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.160
know who and with the little trains. I mean, that' s the

453
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.319
world you said about the child'
s fantasy, where he thinks symbolically and

454
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.000
expresses himself symbolically. But the one
who speaks more doesn' t mean that

455
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:35.640
already. That' s why what
you understand or what you take as a

456
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:40.200
specialist. He' s either faithful
or loyal or because you don' t

457
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.599
understand, I mean, and he' s telling me that it' s

458
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.599
probably not, it' s not
that easy. Unfortunately, because it was

459
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.400
wonderful that we had that infallible test, that it was applied and that'

460
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.359
s it. It' s not
like that. That' s not exactly

461
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.400
Ephraim, because because we see this
is something, it' s basic.

462
00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:01.000
When we' ve been watching each
other, we' re not 100%

463
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:05.640
we' re nobody, I mean, that' s something that I think

464
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:10.480
in the psych books is what I
think tells you no, I mean,

465
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.240
anyone who' s been observed is
going to try to look nicer, nicer.

466
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.640
So we don' t know what' s going on with this antenna

467
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.279
project, that is. And also, the theme is that we have to

468
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:24.039
emphasize it that they took it privately, that whenever they take it to a

469
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:29.640
private. It makes me suspicious of
very rare things, because we have seen,

470
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.880
unfortunately, that here, in a
clinical way, in whatever area,

471
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.799
the people who dedicate themselves to this
suddenly for a few pesos are sold.

472
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.000
That' s the reality. So, unfortunately, we have to wait for

473
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:47.000
justice, real justice, to do
justice and we have to continue to handle

474
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:52.440
the guilty as presumed innocent. It
is, indeed, very worrying that this

475
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.759
gentleman comes out to say infallible,
infallible, of course, but he compels

476
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.880
him. The problem is how many
people follow him and believe them. Yes,

477
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.400
they believe them, that is because
I don' t care if I

478
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:07.679
say what I want or what I
want or I' m here working every

479
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:10.719
day and people know me And although, then, I, it' s

480
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.079
me and I know who I am. The problem is, he' s

481
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:19.280
ruined here. It' s ruining
his life because if it' s actually

482
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.639
proven that he' s stubborn,
he' s innocent in whatever it is,

483
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.920
whatever it is, they pointed it
out, already, you said it

484
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.119
on the national chain and you pointed
it out and you said it. This

485
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.559
battery is and people who have not
studied, because not everyone has to have

486
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.320
studied, because there will be mathematicians, biologists, merchants, thousand trades in

487
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:43.400
all mankind. You don' t
have to know that the test isn'

488
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.400
t infallible. Not everyone has to
know. So you, a lot of

489
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.679
people watch the news and believe what
they say. I read a newspaper and

490
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.079
believe what they say. Well,
here too, because if it' s

491
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.199
the super reporter and the man is
the driver and everything doesn' t,

492
00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.119
then yes, before they know no, because they don' t know exactly.

493
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.000
There are cases that need to be
dealt with and all cases with presumption

494
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.079
of innocence, especially when there is
so much of a rare thing. No,

495
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:10.920
I don' t. So look
how nice what he says about vikina

496
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.960
is to send all those who don' t know how batteries are handled in

497
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:20.119
psychology to study on the subject.
As a psychology student, or I'

498
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.280
m outraged that you talk to the
fool because Paola forgives. But he makes

499
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.519
a little joke. It says a
battery. It' s not what you

500
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.239
put on the appliances to make them
work. Well, it' s good.

501
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.719
The two things have been for the
following reason, it' s just

502
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.239
lupita. No one has an obligation
to know this, but if we are

503
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.840
already going to talk about it and
we are going to have it in front

504
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.679
of us, then we are going
to inform ourselves a little bit and they

505
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:44.599
are called batteries for the simple and
simple reason that they are composed of several

506
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.559
elements. That' s why,
because it' s not a thing,

507
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:51.159
that is, it' s not
like the drums you play, because of

508
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.000
music, which has dishes, but
which has this drum, but which has

509
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.440
Mira Nisei out what they' re
called, because of those I don'

510
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.920
t know about musical drums, but
that means, they' re several elements

511
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:01.199
that make it up. That'
s why they call themselves that. That

512
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:05.079
' s why it' s not
a psychological test. He revealed that such

513
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.480
a thing is not a battery of
tests, because they are several tests that

514
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.679
come together to achieve, as to
know some result. They don' t

515
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.880
call that exact. Look Juani also
tells us it is a complicated job to

516
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.719
perform a psychological diagnosis and we still
have to be checking every six, three

517
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.519
or six months exactly who. But
what happens in the film is a great

518
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.880
misinformation and what a person says,
a director with a confused girl, who

519
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.920
then says good, always not good, because always, because you ruin the

520
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:42.039
life of an Ephraim character is that
an angry, uninformed society that would not

521
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:49.320
have to know this can follow characters
like this man who from nothing point out

522
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:55.239
and destroy his life. And I
think that' s what we really need

523
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.599
to question, question, question us
a lot, because, as a society,

524
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.920
why we' re so angry.
I insist because this reflects a social

525
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.440
anger. And then, as there' s already a person who' s

526
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.639
getting hurt. I hope I said
it well and I am the champion of

527
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:15.119
justice and I have the infallible place
and as we are all looking for infallible

528
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.920
answers because we are in a social
moment that we feel lost, because there

529
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.000
are events like last week in Taxco
and all that, because of course we

530
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.039
are so angry that we are going
to look. Whoever tells us here is

531
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:32.000
here. I have the public and
authentic truth, and that is very serious,

532
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.559
because it is the utilitarian of a
society that is sick. And that

533
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.480
' s very sad. Watch out
for those opinion leaders. I got angry

534
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:46.119
again Look, says Alesandra Lombardi.
In one program they commented that the test

535
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.039
showed images. That' s where
I doubt they could tell the truth.

536
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.880
As Luis says more than two years, exactly, because you have had two

537
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.960
years ago without seeing the father ignore
the age, but I am almost sure

538
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:01.840
that very small girls under ten years
of age or so, of course,

539
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:06.880
that it is very easy to alienate
them and especially the mother and especially the

540
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:08.960
mother when in interviews she has declared
that I will do the impossible because my

541
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.519
daughters do not see their father again, to see what I demand of you.

542
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.320
But my lawyers will open up what
I' m asking you to forgive

543
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.960
me. And although and I'
m going to tell you I trust and

544
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.960
hope that justice is always exactly that
justice. But even though there are cases

545
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.960
tried, we have seen and here
we were mentioned a short while ago the

546
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.039
little thumb actor that for a long
time after rather for twenty years after spending

547
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.679
in prison, the daughter goes out
to say it was a lie. My

548
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.599
mom made me. The case of
Jorge Labat, who was accused by his

549
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.000
son, ran out of work and
in the end is not true. It

550
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.440
wasn' t true, because everyone
knows it' s a very serious and

551
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:50.280
accurate crime. And I got nothing. There' s a movie I think

552
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.280
we' ve already mentioned here another
film as well as that great one,

553
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.159
but I don' t remember.
A man forgive me. If I remember,

554
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.800
then I put it in the comments, because a lot of people also

555
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:07.119
have this fantasy about the hypnosis process. They ask me a lot. Listen

556
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.199
you don' t do hypnosis,
because with that we can get the truth

557
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:14.239
out, because what you don'
t think either, I mean you can

558
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:19.159
also manipulate through hypnosis, or hypnosis
can reveal with unconscious having, already manipulated

559
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.840
as well. So this movie is
great because it' s a woman who

560
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.920
' s accusing Dad who' s
also a church pastor, of having abused

561
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.800
her. The star actress, I
think she' s Natalie Portman. I

562
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.960
don' t remember there, but
good. The point is she says the

563
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.960
unknown. Ign I know it already
came out that yes and then the person

564
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:43.840
who is noticing him, who is
still engaged in investigating more in this woman

565
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.719
' s mind, comes to the
conclusion that it did not happen. I

566
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.280
mean, it' s not that
easy to see exactly It' s not.

567
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:52.880
I think he' s very smart. This says hi guys. I

568
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.559
think we, as an audience.
We also have a responsibility to observe who

569
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.159
we give power and credibility by following
people. It is not, therefore,

570
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.599
because it is, or at least
it is well. Listen who you want,

571
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.119
but you have to know, discern
in what they are telling you and

572
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:13.440
know that maybe it takes a little
bit of There' s one thing that

573
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.960
' s called publishing, because one
thing that I give you the information that

574
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:21.239
allimba went and showed up at the
prosecution and went out and declared he was

575
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:22.159
innocent. And another thing I tell
you, ah, but you know what.

576
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.440
His hands were nervous and his sweat
dropped a drop from here. Looks

577
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:28.880
to me like he turned over there. That' s a sign that you

578
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.079
don' t. That is publishing, reporting, that is, the facts

579
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:37.159
point this happened. What happened to
the Hoffman case. What we saw,

580
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.679
then, a statement in magazine,
an audio of a girl saying do not

581
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.239
manipulate me the intervention. Really,
what we saw, what we saw,

582
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.199
that is, what makes Jorge carvajar
present them. These are evidence, period,

583
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.960
or not. I' m not
speculating, I' m not speculating,

584
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:55.079
I' m not speculating, I' m not speculating. No.

585
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.000
It is to present the facts what
is and good and to put together a

586
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.880
better, better truth that can be. You can hear whoever you want.

587
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.679
What' s the name of the
movie that recommends Lupita goes to them and

588
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.400
the image goes to them. That' s where it' s called.

589
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.599
I leave the bar and leave the
h- zero so they don' t

590
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.639
see it, but I' m
being shot. There it is called The

591
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:21.280
Hunt. This actor is very famous
and is an excellent, excellent actor.

592
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.840
They' re going to like her
a lot and see her because she'

593
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.599
s worth it, even good enough. There are others that the post truth

594
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.719
that is a documentary that is seems
to me in what was chpal that is

595
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:37.360
now max. There are many movies
the doubt also mentioned to me that it

596
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:42.760
is also a super delicate case.
Says Mira, if I may speak,

597
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.800
says Kalimba, he is innocent.
The problem is that they took it from

598
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.000
their pig and want money to hang
from their image, because that is also

599
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.159
very possible. No, it will
have to be seen and investigated as it

600
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:59.519
should now be. The woman is
coming out good, the recent mother who

601
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.599
' s in her video accusing,
because she' s gone. Then I

602
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.480
don' t know, I don' t know what' s going to

603
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:10.599
happen. Don' t look at
me Something very curious happened to me with

604
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:15.639
a friend who' s an archeologist, and then they accused one of their

605
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.519
colleagues of harassment. Not then all
archaeologists said already. No one wants the

606
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.480
archaeologist and my friend said no.
I trust him, box he didn'

607
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:25.719
t do it, and that'
s how it happened to me. About

608
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.800
five or six years passed and the
one who put it went out to say

609
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.320
he was only very angry, accurate
and very strong, because he ran out

610
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:42.440
of work, he ran out of
friendships, that the boy was left alone

611
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.920
and then the goat that accused him. Well, well, it was a

612
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:52.119
mistake. Yes, nothing else was
here, I mean he really hears it

613
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.159
' s that the one he points
to is the one they should punish,

614
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.960
the one they point to just no
yes, and that' s what he

615
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.159
was going to, that' s
what he was saying socially. It made

616
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:07.360
me think if anyone' s accusing
me unfairly. I think so. I

617
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:12.360
would have to have a sanction,
because it is not possible that something because

618
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.960
I say it as far as I
tell each program, but it is that

619
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:21.960
they are banalizing something very serious,
that is, they are taking it to

620
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:27.039
a very dark place, really,
because it is something very serious and they

621
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.840
are using it for revenge in a
perverse way. Another word, perverse to

622
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.199
think that a person can put in
that place his children and some children to

623
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.800
get revenge on another adult. It
makes me very perverted and the person who

624
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:43.880
is doing it should be judged legally
and see what' s going on with

625
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.039
his head. And that' s
the problem, too. You just told

626
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:52.039
him where they' re putting their
kids. That' s, that'

627
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:53.400
s what' s important in this
case, in the calimba case. Okay.

628
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.920
We are talking about women who claim
to have been very young when it

629
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.920
happened, but already in adulthood and
today in the then even more adult.

630
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:06.599
But well, grown- up,
older. But in the case of problems

631
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.880
that are little girls, they are
exactly little girls who are right now in

632
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:15.920
the middle of all this discussion.
Fortunately, because I don' t think

633
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.440
we know them, we haven'
t seen them, not anything, but

634
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:24.000
at some point these girls will grow
up and bring on themselves this whole story,

635
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.280
not whatever it ends up, as
it unfolds. At the end of

636
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.280
the day, they' re in
the middle of all this. Not then,

637
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.079
that' s the serious thing to
see. I want to be cleared

638
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.079
up. This says Guadeloupe, Prudentius
is no longer in the video and you

639
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:43.519
lynching to Calimbia on Friday. How
badly they did. If we lynch him

640
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:47.239
on Friday, I ask the public, yes, I don' t think

641
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.280
I see Druper prudencio. I was
public that day and what I saw and

642
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.559
heard was that it wasn' t. And I said it a moment ago,

643
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.599
making a summary of the program,
that I saw from my colleagues that

644
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.360
the point of defence was not.
I' m a family father now.

645
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.800
Don' t go accusing me of
ugly things when I wasn' t,

646
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.000
that that wasn' t a defense
argument to say that you' re already

647
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.679
very cute and good out there wasn' t, but that it was very

648
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.920
important to face it. Today we' re saying he already gave it and

649
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.360
that' s fine and accurate.
What we said was that, that is,

650
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.320
whatever you are very good person,
today does not erase what you have

651
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:28.119
done in the past. That and
the kids holding the ones we' re

652
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:35.519
holding now that the accusation they'
re making to you is true or not,

653
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:37.960
because something else. Calimba did what
he had to do was with his

654
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.960
lawyer who had already spoken to his
lawyer that unlike they had said there was

655
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.559
a warrant and so on, because
there is no lawyer son. This comes

656
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.320
from a year ago with this person
who mentioned Ephraim, who I don'

657
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.199
t know, and then this new
one comes out, this new accusation of

658
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:52.719
a girl. Or, well,
he' s acting pretty good. Or

659
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:58.000
if it was one I don'
t know, but then we said out

660
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:04.039
of the face and Efrain gave it, and he gave his face for the

661
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.920
current subject, because he didn'
t want to talk about the other then

662
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:09.159
what your name is on Friday.
We didn' t blow up Calima.

663
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.280
We said it was the face.
I insist, and that' s what

664
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.159
I' m holding. I'
m in my personal capacity. He looked

665
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:20.239
forward to Friday' s theme,
the video, the other guy' s

666
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.440
tiktoker didn' t want to talk, and he said we' ll come

667
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.599
to an agreement. So that is, some cases may be true and others

668
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.559
may not. And unfortunately, I
insist on what I said earlier and I

669
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.320
say it and I hold it in
my personal capacity. When you have a

670
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.320
past, the past will follow you. If you don' t go out

671
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.320
with the first mistake to say I
was wrong, I' m sorry,

672
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:47.119
I was wrong and going out to
say this is not a certain point,

673
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.440
no yes and with all peace,
the purpose of truth, the purpose of

674
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.000
the program, are complicated issues.
One understands no and one speaks, as

675
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.920
I say always, always, of
observable conduct, of observable conduct, which

676
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.320
is what people give us so publicly
they put it there for one to analyze

677
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.320
and for one to learn things,
for one to apply it to one'

678
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:10.159
s own life, for one to
become aware of the things that happen and

679
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.920
can in a moment has given to
prevent some or to resolve intelligently or with

680
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.840
greater knowledge others and so on.
That' s not the purpose of the

681
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:24.840
program. And then some of the
things we have tried here to dismantle,

682
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:30.079
for example, these conceptual errors that
are handled as lightly as if they were

683
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.400
known about it, because among them
we have talked a lot about what it

684
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.800
is but it is, for example, a Stockholm syndrome, that many people

685
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.480
take it as a flag to say
this case is not also now to say

686
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.760
that there is no infallible evidence,
which is not unique evidence. That'

687
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.159
s what we' re doing here
and here that says look, the lawyer

688
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.079
says summer. The lawyer does.
He talked about Melisa today. I say

689
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:58.280
they were very pleased with how the
evidence was collected and how many days before

690
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.519
the judge' s ruling. And
I insist on the case of melida ah

691
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.320
bueno. That' s the same
thing. First to Melisa good embrain.

692
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.559
Yeah, we' ve already been
told, don' t scold us,

693
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.880
but what the luiter said to accept
them is that fallen doesn' t use

694
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.000
it. The lawyer did, but
they fell good it' s probably he

695
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.360
' s forbidden to talk because he' s in the process. I probably

696
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:25.440
don' t know, probably not
exactly. We don' t lynch canvasir.

697
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:29.800
We' re talking about body language. Yeah, we were talking about

698
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.400
that kid. If he talked to
a victim like that, he was shaking

699
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.920
fissus. Yeah, we said it
right on the spot, and Calimba came

700
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.440
out and talked The kid took the
video She' s not gonna have proof

701
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:43.159
or anything. Hey. Regarding the
Cabezut case, the day appeared, a

702
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.039
day or two ago this video of
Susana de Asayas, friend of Cabezut,

703
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.559
and says the following go ok Limba
will face. No. This one didn

704
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.480
' t forgive me I was going
to Kalino' s again. Forgive me.

705
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:57.400
No, then I didn' t
come down the other one. I

706
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:01.119
have an apology. Let me look
for it, let me look for it,

707
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.920
but, well, we keep talking
because, yes, Susana comes out

708
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.360
of Asayas to say and talk about
her friend' s personal life. It

709
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.920
' s just that I know the
same thing, but forgive me. But

710
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.480
let me see because I don'
t know why or see. You seek

711
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.079
law, for what we saw is
not france, I think it is expected

712
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.480
in half a second, but continue
you and another you are making me talk.

713
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.480
This actress does come out saying that
she is a long- time friend

714
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:32.760
of Fatrizio Cabezut and that she has
witnessed how the problems began in this marriage

715
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:39.920
and that they have resulted in a
great lawsuit around the daughters. And she

716
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.199
says that well, that there was
a problem there between them as a couple,

717
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.400
that generated the separation and that from
that separation, the lady what she

718
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:55.760
wants is a department and that to
pressure her today ex- husband to leave

719
00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:00.800
the department, because she has been
resorting to being different accusations that have been

720
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:07.679
instilling truth to achieve that purpose.
That' s what it says to me

721
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:13.679
to see if this video is going
to be the truth. I thought about

722
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.920
doing this video a lot. Well, as you know, I' m

723
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:23.199
a friend of Patrick Cabezut and today
I woke up with the news that he

724
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.719
has an arrest warrant for rape of
his daughters that the mom put up.

725
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.199
Well, I didn' t want
to talk about it, but I'

726
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.679
m gonna do it this lady.
And I' m gonna do it because

727
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:39.079
I' ve already checked the notes
that Patrick made public. Otherwise I wouldn

728
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:44.400
' t say anything. This lady
cheated on Patricio Cabezo with a married man

729
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:49.519
and I listened to the videos where
she says if she doesn' t give

730
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.519
me the apartment, I' m
going to screw him and then what happened.

731
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.559
He denounced him for family violence.
Patrick' s been trying to see

732
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.199
his daughters for two years and this
lady, as much as the judge told

733
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:01.639
her a lot, do you have
to introduce your daughters? He doesn'

734
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.760
t present them and he doesn'
t present them. And now, after

735
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:09.480
two years that she loses her trial
and is forced by law to present the

736
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:15.280
girls, the lady disappears And after
many weeks of being missing and since she

737
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:21.000
lost, then she denounces him for
abuse the sexual abuse complaint to her daughters.

738
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.199
You know the damage this lady is
doing to her daughters. They know

739
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.000
how hurt and hurt it is for
the girls to be with this crazy lady,

740
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:37.000
that all she wanted through the divorce
was to take away the apartment Patrick

741
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:43.000
bought before marrying her. Where he' s gonna get money from. Patricio

742
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.519
gives all the money he can for
the girls, because he was out of

743
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:51.079
work thanks to this woman' s
complaints, because he has to be paying

744
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:52.800
lawyers thanks to this woman' s
complaint. What this lady is doing is

745
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:59.599
perjuring her daughters, because it is
over now, if it is forceful,

746
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.960
her no- one has said that
she is a friend of Cabezuti and she

747
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.079
is aware of the case of Cerca, but I don' t know what

748
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.679
they want to say about it.
That aside from the audios, because I

749
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:16.320
worry a lot no and I insist, i e I see this actress give

750
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:22.679
her statement that she sees that she
knows the case and I remember the audios

751
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:28.000
of aura and I worry because I
insist in the hands of who these real

752
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:34.679
girls are, i e, how
you have to have the soul to dare

753
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.079
accuse dad and your daughters of something
so serious to take your daughters in front

754
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:44.360
of experts and I don' t
know how many things to face them in

755
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:45.440
something so sad just for an apartment. I don' t think it'

756
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:50.840
s worth it, and I think
I insist we should check out the people

757
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:52.480
who make those accusations. I also
mean, I don' t know and

758
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.280
if anyone can tell me, if
anyone here knows me that I' m

759
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.880
out of law if when someone makes
an accusation, also the one you accuse

760
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:05.920
of war, visa how you'
re all in health, because it'

761
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.679
s that we' re facing a
social madness. Well, I don'

762
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.239
t know. I am very out
of date with the truth in that I

763
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.119
would like someone who knows more to
tell us, but I suppose it is

764
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:22.480
something that can be requested like you, as an accused you can also request

765
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.239
that the accuser be evaluated to assess
his mental state as well. And how

766
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:29.400
reliable he is and so forth,
I suppose, but I think something here

767
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.079
is going to be thought unquestionably.
It is, of course, a friend

768
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:36.719
of Patricio Cabe sot comes out because
her friend defends him, because she is

769
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.000
her friend, because yes, yes, it is true, because I too

770
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:42.519
have said it here many times the
same as the personal title. Of course

771
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.599
one defends his friends, of course
I, Melisa defend my friends and support

772
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.800
my friends, because besides, I
try to have friends in which I can

773
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.519
trust those that I don' t
have to worry about embarrassing or coludir and

774
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:58.719
others, and still well, maybe
they will be wrong and then in private

775
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:04.280
I will tell them what I think
and I will respect it publicly and support

776
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.079
them and so on, without lying, without conluding one ever with anything bad,

777
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:10.719
then the one that this woman defends
his friend, because it is understandable

778
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.880
from that perspective. But she'
s throwing out certain rather strong comments as

779
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.159
to having information, and she'
s also saying something that we did all

780
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.599
certainly see that Patricio Cabezo has been
struggling to see her daughters for two years.

781
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:27.400
We have also seen him on the
streets with groups of other dads with

782
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.760
blankets saying I want to see my
daughters because they are my daughters and I

783
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:32.920
love them insteadFrom looking at me with
my hands, I leave and then that

784
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:36.599
too. Yes, it is true
that we have seen it and it is

785
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.400
also true the other time the sequence
of facts that she relates, because she

786
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:45.679
says when the judge says you have
not complied and that the daughters must see

787
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.639
the father after her being hidden or
because she says so we are hidden.

788
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:51.119
We' re afraid no one will
say how much we are. After that

789
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.920
comes this new. That is very
interesting, I think, because it does

790
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:00.280
seem to me to be a case
that I think we will continue to give

791
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.239
good space to talk about this,
because, because I think it is not

792
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.559
worth it and it is not something
new that happens, because we have seen

793
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:13.480
cases of famous people, but there
have always been these kinds of false actions

794
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.760
about parents, because not so serious. I insist we speak Friday mel you

795
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.559
must have listened to us. We
talked about the case, so yes,

796
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.880
you didn' t write on the
chat. I already look at grass,

797
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.719
because it is a very similar case
that can be very illustrative in this kind

798
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:31.239
of manipulation cases where you lie and
can lead to even more serious things.

799
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.159
But good is the one for today
we' re done. And now I

800
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:43.119
' m going to have a great
time with all the good and good that

801
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.079
Kalimba came out, that he gave
his face and, then, that he

802
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.519
clears his name and it' s
over. And so let it be the

803
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:54.199
royal righteousness. Not your conclusion,
dear Dr Amel, for hell not.

804
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:00.599
Someone put this one for you It' s retrograde mercury. You know I

805
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.719
don' t. This one doesn' t handle me in that area.

806
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:09.280
But how strong is society and how
unfortunate are some of the things that happen

807
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.760
and how do they fill us with
doubts, how do they leave us full

808
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.599
of doubts? And that' s
why one has to be all the time

809
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:20.840
reviewing the material that appears and talking
about it to see as much as possible,

810
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.199
as much clarity as we can have. And I' m going to

811
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:27.400
say hello to dul and Mary because
they' re asking for greetings before thank

812
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:34.920
you very much. Thank you,
Efrail, let' s take care of

813
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.880
the social quarrel and the contemplative sheepfold, of thinking like everyone else so that

814
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.039
they don' t stop wanting to
avoid questioning us. We have to question,

815
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.840
question that we did not complain to
people and we were so trying today

816
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.480
that we did not give hearts or
anything, because today the thing was at

817
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:53.880
last. But it' s like
that in the rain. I' m

818
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:58.679
an apeno to the power of the
neuron. The wax. I love it,

819
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.880
so much thanks to everyone for having
accompanied us at Spreaker, in Spotify,

820
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:08.519
in iTunes, on Amazon. Thanks
also those who are here on YouTube,

821
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:13.000
those who are on Facebook, Thanks
for your likes, for sharing,

822
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.239
for sharing the program on any of
the platforms would help us a lot to

823
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:22.079
share it. Thank you very much
and I' ll see you here tomorrow

824
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.119
in peace and let' s go
to history in history. The discussion will

825
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:28.679
also be good, because we all
have something to say to them are very

826
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.559
good. I liked that thanks to
everyone' s chicken liy.

