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Hey, it's Mom Picket. We
are on our way to the legendary Broken

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Spoke. Come on, let's get
out of the truck and head inside.

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And damn you're proud of it.
Come on, it's going side. Get

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ready for another tail from the Broken
Spoke. Hey, it's Mom Picket.

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Hope you're ready for part two of
our conversation with Michael and Jenny Peacock.

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We're going to talk about a lot
of things, including chicken shit, bingo,

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riff raft tacks, the Broken sp
Anyway, hang on, here's part

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two of our conversation with Jenny and
Mike. Yeah, me and him would

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love we'd go play at the World
Series of Poker every summer. That was

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like our little pilgrimage to go out
there. I missed that so much.

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I miss going out there with them. But oh when he played poker,

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though, he would wear you know, jeans and a regular shirt and like

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his red cap, so we'd see
it. We'd always see it though we

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go there he is with the red
cap and hey, he was even on

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one of the tables with James Woods
at the end for the Super Seniors.

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They were the last I think James
Wood came in like thirty fourth and my

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dad came in thirty seventh or something
out there. Oh, the guy that

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owned the the Spurs, I believe
was on his table, one of the

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owners. Yeah that's pretty cool.
Yeah yeah, And he loved and mister

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Whittt loved it because you know,
I enjoy playing poker, but never in

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tournaments or anywhere. We could play
for hours. I mean you could start.

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One time I played when you started
at seven o'clock and I got back

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to my hotel room at four am
to finish, and there was only one

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hundred and fifty or something in it. So you can see why the super

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Seniors had I think like fifteen hundred. So it's like a couple of days

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that you play and it's all day. You get like a little break every

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once in a while, but it's
like twelve hours of poker. But you

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know, but like mister White sounded
like he played cards, like like he

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lived, like you know, when
this place opened, he bought beer a

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case. That's exactly right, you
know, that's right. You don't over

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extend yourself, right right. Oh
and he used to also because he he

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stopped drinking and when he started having
health problems with his heart, he stopped

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drinking, and so he would when
we would go out to Vegas. He

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loved to get up early in the
morning and go down and get the money

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and cash games off all the drunk
young guys that were still playing poker at

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like six am. They've been up
all night. And he was like,

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those are the bat because they just
keep throwing money down and they don't know

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what's going on, and so you
can just you know it. If anybody

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has not listening to the first season
of the podcast Teals and Broken Spoke,

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you need to because we have the
stories told by James by mister White,

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which I'm so glad that we did
that. And then but there's a lot

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of stories that you said your dad
didn't cover that you're I know, I

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asked you the other day. And
I don't even know if Monni remembers this.

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Maybe he does. But and then
in the it was in the nineties.

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It was mid nineties, and I
was trying to think, like was

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I out of high school or where
was I Like when I try to remember,

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TNN did a live call in show
with Willie Nelson here and it was

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one of the coolest things ever and
very crazy. It was crazy also just

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like the amounts or anything. No, this was afterwards. I think I

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had the highwayman. I say,
it was like ninety five ninety six.

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I remember being down here for it
with and it was like I think some

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other channel had done a live call
in. So TNN decided that they were

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going to do it, and they
talked to Willy about it, and they

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said where would you like to do
it, and he said, I'd like

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to do it the Broken Folk,
So we of course accommodated and then but

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the best part of it was the
night before when they were loading in all

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of the stuff for you know,
you see that Willie Nelson and family,

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you know, stamped on the side, and I mean they had because it

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was his whole band that came and
played here and along with Bobby Nelson's grand

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piano came into the Broken spoke in
the back. They had to take the

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legs and stuff off, but it
did fit, believe it or not,

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And it was on the dance floor
like him and her were standing on she

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was sitting, but on the dance
floor. And then the rest of the

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band and he had all that was
back before anybody had passed away. So

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it was Jody. Yeah, it
was Paul Jody, all of them.

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And I mean and Bobby's. You
know, it's a brand of it is

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Shimmel. It's a German piano and
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This is this is the mid nineties. Mm hmm. Is that when

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this happened where we're sitting right here
now, he's under the Annie. He

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and Annie would have I think I
think that was already been married. They've

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been married because he proposed to Annie
right here. Is why we call this

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the Willy Nelson Right, Okay,
My dad said, yeah, our employees

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would call up and say, hey, he's up there, like it'd be

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like a Tuesday night or something,
and he would bring Annie in here and

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eat. Well. See, now
we're getting more information that we didn't even

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know. So yeah, come on, spill the beans. Yeah. Well,

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I don't know too much a ton
of it, but yeah, but

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I do remember the TNN thing.
So the night before they were loading in

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all that big equipment, et cetera, and Willie Nelson comes in because they

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want to do sound check and they
want to run him through his paces sort

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of like. So we got to
tell Willie what to play. So like

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we got to Mike, my mom
wanted Hello Walls, so he had to

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play Hello Walls or whatever. It
was like, you know, because people

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were going to call in and he
wouldn't know what song they were going to

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request, and he had to be
on his toes and remember because and you

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know, people always try to like
name some obscure songs, always always so.

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But yeah, so what they did
was they I believe they gave away

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two lots of tickets and we got
to give a lot of our friends,

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family, et cetera tickets and there
were supposed to be two shows, and

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I think what ended up happening is
nobody wanted to leave from the first show,

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so they had more people kind of
crammed in. And I don't even

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know if he ever stopped. I
think, yeah, I was here for

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and we had a big screen televisions
out in our parking line, in the

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back of pickups. I had a
date. I remember trying to impress her,

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Oh yeah, you want to go
see Willie Nelson, you know,

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yeah, And we were either out
in the parking lot or we're in here

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watching Willie out but that was a
you know, so yeah, sitting like

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when you are like six feet from
Willie and you get to like chat with

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him and there's like fifteen people in
the whole place. That's amazing. What

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song did you request? You remember? But I will tell you Angels Flying

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Too Close to the Ground is my
favorite Willie song. Great song. I

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love that song, so great record. Yeah, amazing, Yeah, I

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love that. No, your dad
didn't share that story? What other stories?

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Yeah? You know what kind of
spurred me off is I follow a

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ton of country you know, Facebook
pages, et cetera, to get content

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for the broken Spoke stuff, and
somebody had posted it on I think honky

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Tonk Times or something. They had
posted a video of it, and so

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it jogged my memory because there's probably
stuff on YouTube about it. Yes there

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is, Yeah, and yeah,
it was really fun and I think Emmy

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Lou called in and maybe he did
maybe six or seven songs or something.

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But yeah, we'll never forget that
night. That was crazy crazy. We

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talked about Friday Night Lives being filmed
at her. How many movies have actually

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been filmed at her? I remember, well Dolly parton the Ravens and yes,

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so that was yeah, that was
we had a lot of we haven't

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really had any big, big like
you know at the theater movies. We've

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had a lot of made for TV
movies, the TV series also, yeah

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that too. And the biggest you
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Honeysuckle Rose way back in the day. They did it right here. They

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were playing pool, right. I
was watching that the other day. That

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was a spoke. And yeah,
and where the bar the front bar is

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that that's a wall. But at
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the bar was over across all the
way across the room and that was a

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wall right there. So this is
nineteen eighty seventy nine, nineteen eighty so

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when yeah, because we got that
bar like in the eighty five. So

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you see my dad tending barb there
a little bit like fast go back and

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watch. Yeah, and then Terry
and my mom are here, and I

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believe that like kind of right next
to that. Where were you? I

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wasn't here. I was baby.
I was like five years old or something.

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Yeah, I was young, so
I wasn't here. I remember they

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shot part of that. I found
out where they shot part of it.

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That the end concert scene was shot
out there three sixty before the bridge was

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there for the Pennybacker Bridges where they
shot the outdoor and I know that the

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old out on Bks, the old
soap Preak saloon was used as in the

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movie three different venues, you know. Yeah, they would dress different clothes.

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Oh yeah, that was And at
the very beginning of oh I know,

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I posted, I posted a clip
from it that my dad had filmed,

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and you can hear my dad yacking
about it like I remember that or

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whatever, you know, where he
was talk videoing it off the television.

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But he's yacking about it at the
same time. So I'll have to find

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that sent it to you. I
would see there was, but that was

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back when we had a phone booth
on the porch. And at the very

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beginning of the scene, one of
the musicians are out there on the phone

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and and my dad was so mad
when they took that, like he was

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like phone booth. Yeah, but
anyway, so that was done. So

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oh but the Dolly and Ray Benson
movie with Gary Busey is pure magic.

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It's so cheesy good. It's called
Wild Texas Wind and she's a singer with

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Ray. They've got a band together
and his name is Ben Rayson. Yeah,

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they shot part of that here and
part of it also a dance cross

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texts. Dance cross textas theater.
We don't talk about us across text.

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Okay, that's what it was.
But you know what something but you guys

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are here, yes, thank god, But just talking about another venue in

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ninety my goodness, maybe ninety three. Uh, the old building way out

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on Breaker, Lamar and Breaker.
They were tearing down the Skyline Club,

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and you know, and that's where
Hank Williams had his last gig, and

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that's where Johnny Harton had his last
gig, and Patsy Klein played there,

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and Jim Reeves and everybody everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, you know Elvis.

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Elvis played the Skyline three times,
Yes, and they were tearing it down.

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And I didn't even you know,
certainly didn't know we were family.

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But I didn't know mister White all
that well. You know, I was

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in the thing about the Wagoneers when
we first got started. We were on

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tour all the time. We lived
here, but we played literally two hundred

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and fifty three hundred dates a year, so we would play in Austin like

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twice a year. When we were
home. We wanted to come to the

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Broken Spoken to the Chicken fried Steak
now work necessarily, So I didn't know

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you did all that well, but
he knew how interested I was in country

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music history, in Texas history,
and uh, your daddy called me and

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he said, uh, is this
money warding the wagoneers? I said,

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yeah, who's this? He goes, this is James White, the Broken

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Spoke and I went hello, mister
White, and he'd never called me at

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home. He said, uh,
they are tearing down the Skyline tomorrow.

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And I said, uh, yes, sir, And he goes, well,

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I'm gonna go there and I'm gonna
go get me a piece of that.

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I thought maybe you'd like to join
me. I never even had lunch

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with you that before. So it
was me and mister White and George mcjeski.

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Uh, and George and Carlin founded
Soak Creek Saloon. And at the

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second Soap Creek location was the old
Skyline Club, okay, and I and

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I was inside the building and uh, and there was just and it looked

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it had been at one place like
a rehab drug rehab placed there. You

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can see where there were little cubicles
for people to sleep and I said,

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mister White, where where was the
stage? And uh? And he showed

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me right where the stage was and
and there was a uh a place where

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the musicians the singer's feet had rubbed
all the finish off the wood hollowed circle

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and it's right right. And I
said, I said, I want to

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grab me board, and he said, well, get you get your board.

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And this is mister White. Get
your board right here. Look at

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it. I look at it.
That that Elvis's feet did that. Hank

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William's feet did that right. And
mister White helped me pull that up.

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And I know he got a board
too. Yeah. He says the same

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thing about you know the stage here
like a tallow ground. It is ground.

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And when he does the speech,
Bob Wills was right here, you

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know, like and he's it's for
true. He really was. And I

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was talking to mister White just you
know. He said, I hate to

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see this old building go. He
said, boy, he said, I

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was, He said, when I
was a boy. Because your daddy's born

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in forty thirty nine, thirty nine, he said, he said, I

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saw He said, I saw the
Everly brothers here, you know, and

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they were when they were just a
country act, you know, before Bye

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Bye Love and so anyway, and
he said, it's a shame to see

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this place go. And then and
then he just got kind of wistful and

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he said, you know, people
think we're in competition. He said,

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but horn Stark was the guy that
he goes. He goes. Me and

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Warren, we're pulling for each other. Yeah, and he said, And

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when I started The Spoke in sixty
four, Warren said we needed a place

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down south, and just that that
era of venue owner and club owner where

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they're not in competition, they're pulling
for one another. One has everything way

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up north, one has it way
downside. It's totally the same. Really,

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we love the Continental. It's like
our sister kind of it feels like

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sister venues or you know what I
mean. Like we're kind of all in

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a little club because we've been here
for so long and we're the real deal.

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The Continental, Socks and Pub and
the Broken Spoke We've always and Jenny's

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Little Longhorn are always together. You
know, Terry that does Jenny's Little Longhorn

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calls me with names, you know
bands. I do the same for her

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when I get a new band.
That's not from down here. I tell

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them to call the Continental or you
know or other yeah, or Genius,

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because that's the legacy of your daddy
right there. Yeah. Yeah, I

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think because if they play, you
know, if they're playing other venues,

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that that introduces them to other people
that will come out here later on,

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you know, And we want those
venues to survive because you can't be the

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live music capital of the world if
you know, you don't have any live

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music venues. And those guys,
the people that own those I was telling

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Mike, are are you know,
they've been here for so long. They

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might not be as well known as
my dad because he put himself out into

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the front, like he was like
literally like the you know, the face

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of the broken spokes absolutely and and
you know Steve and Joey they don't they're

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not it's like out and you know, they're not up on stage doing big

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speeches or whatever. But those guys
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Did you know. They're keeping live
music going and they're honorable people. Yeah,

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Joe's a real good guy. Any
thoughts maybe getting chicken ship bingo down

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here? Oh my god, I
told listen, just jumped up listen.

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I told when Dale stopped doing it, out it Jenny's little longhorn. I

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told my dad, I said,
well, we could still have Jenny's chicken

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Ship bingo. It's not a lie. My name is Jenny and it's spelled

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identical. I'm a Virginia also,
so I'm a g I N N Y.

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So I was kidding with Dad,
but yeah, he never. We

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were worried. We didn't know how
we could do it because we have a

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health permit, like we sell food, so you can't have live animal chicken.

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We worry about the health's apartment.
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that that's the business reason of it, and that makes perfect cance. And

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I didn't know that. One time
we were settling up and mister White said,

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uh uh, you ever picked that
chicken ship bngo, And I said,

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I said, no, sir,
I never have. He goes yeah.

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I just don't you know. And
mister White called every band leader a

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star he goes he goes yeah.
I don't know if any star once his

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name associated with chicken ship. That's
hilarious. I didn't hear to say that.

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It sounds exactly would say literally,
like that's how he would see it.

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That's how he would see it,
because he was a promoter at heart.

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He was a promoter. It's like
to this day, I come and

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I hang posters up the friday.
We will play here the last Friday of

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every month, and I come every
Friday before and because when I would come

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and hang those posters up, and
I don't know if it brings one one

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extra person every every month. It
is my little hey I Loved You card

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to James White, because he would
say, he goes, you're the only

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star that comes here and hangs his
own, but you grab a staple gun

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and you put it in there here. The other day it was good enough

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for George to stand in front of
Sir George's most recent promo shot. It

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says a wagoner poster behind it.
It's like, look, there's the wagonster.

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Something else you do in your shows. Here at this spoke, very

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important of your first responder. Go
ahead and get all first responders, get

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in free to the wagoneers at the
broken spoke. And I mean when we

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first started it, mister White said, well, it's just out of your

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pocket. Whatever you I think it'd
be great. I would love it if

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you did it and then and he
said, so those are cops. I

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said, sir, it's anybody that
keeps us free and safe. So it

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is cops, fire ems active military. And all you got to do is

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just go tell Mike at the door
you're a first responder. And one time

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we were afterwards we'd had like,
I don't like fifteen of them that Mike

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goes. He goes, I don't
think they were first responders. And the

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kid comes up to be drunk and
he goes, hey, I told them

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we were a first responder. We
got in free. I said, why

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would you tell me that? And
he goes because it's cool. I said,

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well, it's money out of my
pocket. And he goes, how

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do you mean he was so drunk, and I said, I said,

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buddy, I'm just glad you came. Next time you come pay and see

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the wagoneers And he goes, yeah, of course I hadn't seen him since.

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But my whole thing is, if
you got to lie about being a

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first responder to get into a wagon
ears show, that's between you and your

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god, and I'm not going to
come between that. Let me tell you

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we're a big plug here this world
wide. You don't have to be an

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Austin right, No, no,
no first responders, the first responders,

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any first response. We may need
a little proof. Maybe we'll have to

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tell Mike to at least like an
I or something funny. One day,

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the Hey Bail, we're playing in
the bank and it was like, you

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know, old pool ball and all
those guys in the hay Ball, old

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class famous musician, and these kids
come up to me like five dollars to

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go in the pie. Whoa,
and I'm gonna pay that. And I'm

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like, dude, I said,
you realize how much talented man played with

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Elvis Prestley, Johnny. But like
Jenny said, you know, you could

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have a monk keep hanging on a
bass drum down sixth Street. But what

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did your dad called? What did
your dad call dollar cover? In the

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seventies, w the riff raft tax? What the riff raft? They charged

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a dollar when George was here on
Wednesdays charts a dollar cover and mister White

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told me, he said, we
just had to come up with a riff

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raft tax. And Netta came up
with that dollar to keep the riff rap

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out rap. It's a dollar.
That's hilarious. I'd never heard. That

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was so great, That is funny, and it's not over yet. Get

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ready for the conclusion Part three of
our visit with Michael and Jenny Peacock right

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here on Tails and Broken Spoke next
week. Tales from the Broken Spoke is

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recorded live at The Broken Spoke in
Austin, Texas, hosted by Country Radio

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Hall of Fame broadcaster Bob Pickett and
Monty Warden, Recorded, mixed down and

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produced by Mike rivera MM

