1 00:00:02,439 --> 00:00:06,360 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of Geek Verst podcast. 2 00:00:06,719 --> 00:00:11,240 I am the helmet to Taylor Field and I am joined by I'm Dill 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,440 Muss. Yes, we are here because we are going to be doing another 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,239 another round of Halo reviews. Season two is upon us, and so we 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,160 are. We are getting into the juiciness of master Cheeks. But before we 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,320 get into that, a couple of plugs support us on Patreon. Help us 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,320 show I think I'm butchering this and create new content when you get out of 8 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,520 give you a chance. Okay, okay, you'll nail it. I believe 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,960 in you. Early and exclusive episodes with your aunt connection. You can find 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,479 us in the search part. Geek Forst is our home based keepers cast on 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,840 Twitter. Geek Versus is our Facebook. I want to drop a huge shout 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,640 out, huge thank you to our patron producers, Aaron Braden, April of 13 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:59,159 Darkness, Jack Grant, MUDs and Sam. You all know who you are. 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,520 You're fabulous with love you. We love all you. But you guys 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,959 are the producers. So what else have we got here? We got a 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,079 what are we? What do we got going on? In the geek first 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,439 what's what's latest and greatest? What do we all? We did fun newscast 18 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,760 me, you and Travis this week. That was fun. We talked all 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,959 sorts of news, some Jurassic stuff, some trailers, some Madam Web predictions. 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,680 That was fun, some madam Web reviews. Next week, side quest, 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,120 a lot of fun. Me and Travis had a very long, lengthy 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,400 discussion on all sorts of state of play Xbox rumors with these Xbox games, 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,359 speaking of Xbox games coming over to a PlayStation and whatnot. And then me 24 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:40,920 and you were gonna talk about cull and Bones next week, which and other 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,920 things which I'm excited about. So that's weird. I played last night. 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,120 I will not say anything I played. I played Scolding Bones last night. 27 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:51,280 It's a real game, it exists after all these years. Oh I can't 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,719 wait. You reminded me this Sunday is the super Bowl. Well, we're 29 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:59,000 not covering the super Bowl. We are covering the trailers. So definitely tuned 30 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:02,079 in because we're gonna be talking about maybe Deadpool three trailers, some other cool 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,040 things that have dropped so at something to look forward to. But other than 32 00:02:07,079 --> 00:02:08,840 that, I think we are ready to get into this. So I guess 33 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:13,280 we'll just do our basic non spoilers first, and this is again episodes one 34 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,919 and two. Did you want to do like episode one first and then or 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,919 just want to join them together? I think we can like kind of talk 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,159 about the storylines all of sore and stuff at once, all of da da 37 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:25,280 da at once. That probably no sense, Rightah. I watched them back 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,879 to back personally, so they kind of blend together a bit, right, 39 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:34,240 Okay, cool? Well, so non spoilers, how how'd you feel getting 40 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,439 back into this world? Yeah? Right off the bat, I mean it 41 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:40,919 felt like I was thrown on the deep end, like I probably should have 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,280 watched a recap of the first season or if they had one. You know, 43 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:50,000 a lot of shows will do that where there's like a you know, 44 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:53,599 a longer before last time on for the first episode of a season. Because 45 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:57,360 even though we did those reviews and I didn't feel like that doesn't feel like 46 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,680 that show is too long ago. I am a really a lot of the 47 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:04,520 little details, and there's certain characters. I'm like, why did't Miranda Keys 48 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,280 show up? I have no idea where she left off the last season? 49 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,439 Certain things like that, so it took me a bit and I still feel 50 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:13,800 like I'm kind of getting my bearings there, but then also we're throwing new 51 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:19,439 characters and whatnot. It's a pretty weak start for me so far. Some 52 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,439 of the I don't honestly, by the end of episode two, where we're 53 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:27,080 set up for episode three, I'm actually more excited for where we're gonna get 54 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,400 there. But this first I guess hour and a half between those first two 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,919 episodes, I felt pretty slow, and I wasn't really loving kind of the 56 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:39,840 drama that was going on with with Chief and Akerson, who's like the new 57 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,840 chief in command whatever you want to call him. Didn't really love that dynamic 58 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:49,560 so much. But they even kinda some things at the end of episode two, 59 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,400 I guess more set up some more interesting things that we're gonna see further 60 00:03:52,439 --> 00:03:54,919 down the line. So and then I don't know, there's so many different 61 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:59,360 storylines going on. I'm I feel like all of them are kind of just 62 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,400 getting that in right now, so I haven't there's not too much to dig 63 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:04,719 on yet, But so far, it was just kind of a bit of 64 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:09,400 a bland to start here. Pacing was a bit off, but that's what 65 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,360 the show's great at is having off pacing. So I don't know, I'm 66 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,319 not not loving it so far, not even really liking that much, but 67 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:21,519 I am. I am genuinely intrigued for potentially what we have set up for 68 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:26,519 episode three, so hopefully it takes an upswing next week. But yeah, 69 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,439 kind of feeling on par with where I was for most of the first season 70 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,800 there, mm hmm, yeah, I share. I share a few things 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:41,680 that you've kind of specified in that I feel. I felt optimistic going into 72 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,800 this season to a slight degree because I really thought, Okay, maybe they're 73 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,120 going to drift away from certain things they did with that first season. A 74 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:54,720 lot of originality that they decided to indulge in instead of kind of adhering to 75 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,439 source material from the games and books and whatnot. I was not a fan 76 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,800 of in that first season, and there's there. As soon as this first 77 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,920 episode popped in and I was watching, I thought, Matt, I'm just 78 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:09,079 getting like PTSD flashbacks of things I didn't like in that first season. But 79 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,600 I will say, Okay, they they did some things that I did enjoy 80 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,600 in this first episode, but those things did not last long and then we 81 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,240 just went right back into our old, our old ways of just them doing 82 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:23,879 certain things. I will say that that Akerson, I really enjoyed that character's 83 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,199 introduction. I enjoyed getting to see more of that story because that's a character 84 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,399 that I'm I'm interested in, at least with how he exists in the Halo 85 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,600 game or not not really the games, but the Halo books and the universe. 86 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:42,480 So there's interesting things that they can tackle with that character and just what 87 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:45,800 they're with them bringing him into the show. It just excites me for what 88 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,720 is to come in terms of master Chief and our spartans and whatnot. But 89 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,120 they also were alluding to several big things coming to play in the middle of 90 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,720 the season, which I guess will probably be I'm assuming it's eight. I 91 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:01,040 think it's eight episodes. I don't actually know. Wasn't it ten for the 92 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,519 first season? It might have been. Oh, actually I think it was 93 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:09,360 nine. I think it was nine. Yeah, yeah, So I guess 94 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:12,519 that would probably be like episode four or five is when things. There will 95 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:15,160 be eight this season apparently, so eight, okay, that might be good 96 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,199 for pacing and stuff compared to how we're feeling lest last go around. Yes, 97 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:26,319 absolutely so, once we get into that that middle part of the season, 98 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,759 like they were alluding to where some big stuff is gonna happen. I 99 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:31,879 mean, they're being pretty mysterious about it, but I think most people can 100 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,839 kind of pinpoint what they're getting at. So I'm just I'm excited to see 101 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,199 that happen. But there's so much that I just I'm really just not a 102 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,279 fan of so much, like bullshit and just mannerisms and Chief just going to 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,399 his old ways and he's just emotional and stuff. And we'll get more into 104 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:54,800 that than the spoilers. But god, I just sequence when he had the 105 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,160 hood on and he was doing that well, no, oh my god. 106 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Oh it stresses me out. And I was telling Travis this because he asked 107 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,879 me how the show was earlier and I told him, like, I got 108 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:12,720 nothing against Pablo. I'm sure he's a great guy in real life. I'm 109 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:16,560 sure he like fantastic, But every time he takes that helmet off, fuck, 110 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:20,480 I get angry. I just don't like I don't like his face as 111 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Master Chief. And that's a very mean thing to say. I really, 112 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:30,040 I'm so sorry, but like it's nothing against Pablo, nice guy, but 113 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,279 he's just not who I would associate with massa Chief and that's just my own 114 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:36,480 problem, my own biasedness that I have to work through. It's nothing against 115 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:40,720 Pablo, nothing against the creators of the show anything like that. It's just 116 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:45,920 me as a person and my flaws. So I would just I wish that 117 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,040 he looked different. He's just got like that great stubble, that nice looking 118 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:53,600 haircut, Like I'd love to look like do that haircut, and that that 119 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,480 beer he's got going on. But that's not what master Chief has. Master 120 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Chief has something different going on, at least to me. Anyways. I 121 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,399 think I've rambled enough. Anything else you want to sneak in there? Yeah, 122 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:09,439 I'm trying to think non spoilers wise, I guess, how do you 123 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:11,920 feel about because we got a couple really one main action scene and then in 124 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:16,279 episode two there were it was kind of more like an acrobatic one. There 125 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,399 was like a small like action fight scene thing. How did you feel about 126 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:24,079 the CGI because that was a big, you know, topic of conversation throughout 127 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:28,759 season one. I'd say the budget is noticeably different in an improved way. 128 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Well, there's definitely certain things like when the spartans are running, I feel 129 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,720 like this is kind of weird, but I don't even think that's CGI, 130 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,039 because I was looking at some behind the scenes and they have them on like 131 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,960 a zip line and they're like, wow, they're like moving as they move 132 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,879 along the zip lines. It's got to be a combo of that plus CGI 133 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,759 for the more like extreme movements. I think so. I think so kind 134 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,039 of like how the vampires run on in Twilight. That's what it kind of 135 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:54,600 reminds me of. Almost. I haven't watched that yet. For the retro, 136 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,480 I'm not on top line for me, but when we get to that 137 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,919 retro can revisit that context. I definitely agree with that. For me, 138 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,919 it was the weird that was the like, that's the easiest part to nail. 139 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,360 It is like just a guy in the armor like running, because you 140 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,759 just you just film that and you're good to go. But that was the 141 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:16,159 stuff that looked weird for me. Was really any of the spartans in in 142 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,039 their suits doing big action stuff. I thought all I thought all the Covenant 143 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,240 looked great, just like they did in season one, and mostly like the 144 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,639 effects and whatnot were really solid too, But it was mostly just the CGI 145 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,679 around the people, right, because that's what I expect. I mean, 146 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,879 even though it's people in suit like I they need to look more life like 147 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,320 than that. But they looked just so cgi that that definitely stood out to 148 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,200 me. So I hope that improves. Uh you know, if they have 149 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 one less episode, you don't hope Hopefully that means that budget wise they have 150 00:09:45,159 --> 00:09:48,759 a bit you know, they can get that action to look a bit better. 151 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:50,960 But for the most part, I think it decent. It was just 152 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,039 mostly that most of the spartans running around and flying around and whatnot. Yeah, 153 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,200 yeah, I would agree, spaceships all look great. Yeah, and 154 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:03,840 I looked pretty pretty good, same as season one, So yeah, no 155 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:05,960 complaints there. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I have much 156 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:11,360 else than in the non spoilers realm of things. Yeah, I don't think 157 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:16,720 I have anything else either. Uh So with that, then you had your 158 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,399 chance go back now if you got to watch the show, because we're getting 159 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:28,000 in the spoiler territory after this ad break and we are back. So where 160 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,279 in this wonderful story do you want to start? Well, you so you 161 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,000 mentioned that you were pretty into it at the start and then there was a 162 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:41,440 shift and you weren't quite as into it. Is that because we opened with 163 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,799 like that big action, longer sequence and then the stuff after it is what 164 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,000 you were lesson to like when we got back into more like the character stuff, 165 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,799 is that kind of what you're talking about. That's that's exactly it. 166 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:56,000 When we got them the Silver Team just on this planet doing their stuff, 167 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,039 I was really driving with this. I thought it was cool that they're just 168 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,799 on the outer rim worlds. They are evacuating people because the covenants getting like 169 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,200 pushing in further and further. That was it was really cool to see. 170 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,759 And so the mysteriousness of the fog. These marines just out there being kind 171 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:15,399 of stupid and they're just communications office. I shouldn't say they're supid, but 172 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,799 they're very ill equipped and trained for the situation. That's the right thing I 173 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,639 should have said. So when you have all these elites pop it in, 174 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,279 you get that cool fight sequence and whatnot. Then for me what I think 175 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,759 that it's fitting because I feel like there is definitely a place in Halo where 176 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:41,559 you have very very religiously prophetic individuals that are just fixated like this is our 177 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,440 belief, this is what we're going for, and that woman and then her 178 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,720 followers them just choosing to stay behind. I feel like there's definitely a place 179 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,080 in Halo for that kind of thing. But when she they're walking and she 180 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:58,879 goes and like touch touches chiefs like arm like find finds your like find your 181 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,600 your religion or something like that chief, And I'm like, man, I 182 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,320 don't think chief, because it gives much of a shit about this. He'd 183 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,840 be picking you up and throwing you into that bloody condor to get you out 184 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:15,200 of here. M hmm, yeah, No, that's interesting to bring it 185 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,600 that. That seemed very Unhalo like to me. And obviously you're way deeper 186 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,879 in the lower in the story and you're reading the books to me, but 187 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,840 just like that, that character, that group, I don't know. I 188 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,519 guess it felt so similar like things I've seen in Star Wars, and so 189 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,519 it kind of took me out of the Halo universe. And because I feel 190 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:37,720 like, really we haven't seen too many like human civilizations outside of like we 191 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,960 spend a lot of time in Madrigal, and then we had like Sorein's asteroid 192 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,159 place, right whatever that was in season one, and I'm trying to think 193 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,200 of other ones. I guess I guess I reach as a place like obviously 194 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,799 that whole area. But yeah, like I guess if we go down to 195 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:56,240 these different worlds and we can get to see these different perspectives and outlooks. 196 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:00,080 But I guess since we spent so little time with them and they're kind of 197 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,279 like no one, now, I didn't really feel a whole lot for them. 198 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 But I don't know, maybe that was a bit of foreshadow too, 199 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,399 because there was a lot of trippy stuff going on with Chief in his mind, 200 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,039 especially on that planet. Right, Yeah, he's still going through some 201 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:20,840 intense mental inhibitors. I guess you could say, yeah, I'm curious, 202 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,720 how how did you feel? Because we in that sequence, there's the one 203 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:30,440 Perez is the uh, the other lieutenant private whatever she was that makes it 204 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,519 through that encounter. And this is skipping ahead to episode two, but I 205 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,360 think, you know, we can we can talk about now. It was 206 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:41,360 like she is there with Chief and then when they get back to their home 207 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,799 planet and Accurson, this is like, I guess, spinning into a whole 208 00:13:45,799 --> 00:13:50,600 other storylines and whatnot. But Perez, I guess, didn't share what she 209 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,159 experienced during that encounter, and then Chief's kind of getting chewed out for it 210 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,919 by Acerson and getting take on off missions and no combat and all this, 211 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:03,039 and then he goes to her house and they have like this whole dinner sequence, 212 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,679 which was kind of strange. I did not understand her logic or her 213 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,360 explanation because first she's she's saying that, oh, well, I didn't really 214 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:16,799 see anything. It was kind of like foggy and like I was kind of 215 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:18,840 knocked out. I couldn't really see anything. But then she's like, yeah, 216 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:22,799 but then I chose not to tell him what I saw. Did that 217 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,919 make more sense to you? I even rewatched, I rewind and watched the 218 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,039 scene again, and I just I could not understand her logic. But it's 219 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,200 like it's pretty important. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of other 220 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,639 scummy things going on with Akerson, and maybe he doesn't care and he would 221 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:39,120 have found a way to sewer Chief in some other way. But I feel 222 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,120 like this is a big part of the plot of why he's been taking off 223 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:46,039 mission and why the whole Silver team's been benched, even if they're disobeying those 224 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,440 orders by the end of it. So, I don't know, did that 225 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,440 make more sense to you? Was I missing something they did not do? 226 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,440 A good job of explaining it. At the end of the day, I 227 00:14:54,519 --> 00:15:01,159 think that you want to keep what she was saying and quiet, and Ackerson 228 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,120 is obviously taken over for Halsey. Ackerston is a part of Oni and Onie 229 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,679 obviously naven intelligence. They're the be all end all, They're very much they 230 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,639 they're not They're not necessarily the good guys, even though they're trying to help 231 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:18,919 protect humanity. So why I think she lied, I think is because they 232 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,399 probably threatened her. And this is all my own head canon. They did 233 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:26,000 not address this in the show, but I think Akerson probably threatened her and 234 00:15:26,039 --> 00:15:28,960 maybe seeing her family as an implication that shows like, hey, this is 235 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,320 what she has to lose. But the fact is the Covenant are here and 236 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,960 there's nothing we can do to stop them. But we don't want people to 237 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,759 be panicking. We don't want people to be freaking out. That's again why 238 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:41,759 he's talking to Cortana behind everyone's backs, like hey, what can we do 239 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:46,039 or on the simulations, can we survive this, can we defend reach whatever? 240 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:52,840 So I think she lied because she was threatened. Okay, yeah, 241 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:58,120 fair enough, And I mean also she's kind of been rewarded they're almost kind 242 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,360 of like setting her up as a hero, and that's what his beach is 243 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,559 all about two like we need heroes, whatever he says. So giving her 244 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:07,519 a medal, putting her on TV kind of lifting her up. Maybe that's 245 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:12,039 a way to like spin the public's perception too, like away from Chief and 246 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:15,679 Silver Team and more, making her the hero of the story, even though 247 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,480 she's even like I don't even know why I got a medal, Like I 248 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:22,559 didn't really do anything deserve it. Well, that's another thing with Akerson's character. 249 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:27,679 Akerson, he's not a fan of Halsey Halsey's arrival, and in turn, 250 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:32,840 a way to kind of strike at out at Halsey is to kind of 251 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,320 strike out at Spartan two program. Something that Akerson does is he brings in 252 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,039 the Spartan three program. And if remember you play it, you've played Reach, 253 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:44,360 so you know Noble six, the main guy you play as, he's 254 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,080 a Spartan three. So this is where you have Ackerson introducing this next generation 255 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:52,039 and what Spartan threes are. And I'd be really excited just to see them 256 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,320 kind of get thrown into the mix. Here is you have the Spartan two's 257 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,080 where they were boys or girls like kids, and they hint again at that 258 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,919 in this for what Halsey had did, everyone seems to know what is talking 259 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,039 about it when this ye is spark like, oh, you're abducted when you're 260 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,880 a kid. That's super shady. That's what Spartan two's are. But they 261 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,480 were hands selected when humanity was at its prime and peak before the Covenant came. 262 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:18,599 We have Spartan threes. They're usually just orphans whatnot, and they're augmentations. 263 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:26,839 I believe they're very different forms of augmentations. They're not the same and 264 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:32,079 invasive as it was for Spartan twos where they had like the titanium bones and 265 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,039 whatnot. Spartan threes are more like a cheaper method of just pumping spartans l 266 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:41,680 but they're still very capable and very effective. But that's where Akerson, I'm 267 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,640 assuming is coming into play here and where they're going to be leading. So 268 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 I should probably look at it at any as of right now, like any 269 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:55,039 of Akerson's decisions or actions are kind of there to discredit Halsey in any way 270 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:59,240 possible, and that's why he's partially like maybe he thinks Chief and Silver team 271 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:03,960 are sold and reliable, but as part of his whole narrative of discredit and 272 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,519 Halsey, he kind of has to also throw them under the bus because that 273 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,319 was her pet project, right, I would say that's that's definitely it's he's 274 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:17,359 very much like, not self sustaining, but out for himself and his own 275 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,680 goals as much as he is like, yeah, I'm doing this for humanity. 276 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,839 Yeah, he has a good position of being similar to Halsey in certain 277 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,799 regards but then very different at the same time. Both characters. I would 278 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:32,319 definitely put Halsey as more of the hero, but both of them are I 279 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:33,799 guess evil to a degree. Atleast Halsey is evil in the show. It 280 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:38,279 looks like, right, Like, I guess it's like a good gray area 281 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,240 in concept, right, because obviously they're against the Covenant and they want humanity 282 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,480 to survive, but the ways in which they do it is kind of out 283 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,599 for debate in terms of right that's the most ethical and obviously we explored that 284 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,599 a lot with Halsey in the first season. I'm liking what you're I'm liking 285 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:57,359 what you're selling here for Akerson because I was not a fan of him. 286 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,240 Here, And I think even just that explanation of maybe some more of his 287 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:04,400 motives, well like from your backstory there helps me kind of have a better 288 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,319 idea who he is. But it just felt like a very big, powerful 289 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:11,640 character to just drop in here, and like I feel like, Okay, 290 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,000 I'm supposed to just respect this guy and think he's cool and badass, but 291 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:18,480 like, I don't really know he is. Even if I've maybe seen him 292 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,759 in a game at some point, I don't remember him or anything. So 293 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:25,559 I'm what was it about him? Because because you obviously like him as a 294 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:27,200 character, bringing him, bringing in your prior knowledge, but what was it 295 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:33,279 about like what we actually got here in episode one and two that you're liking 296 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:36,400 of the portrayal so far? Like what do you think about the performance too? 297 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,720 I guess I like his I like his performance because he definitely feels like 298 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:44,279 he uh, just how he commands this power of like yeah, okay, 299 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,960 Chief, you guys you're benched, and he's just spinning his own narrative. 300 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:49,759 He should have put Chief up on the camera, but he, you know, 301 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,359 he put Perez, which for moral's sake, I mean sure, it 302 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,559 makes regular Joe blow feel like they can make a difference, and they don't. 303 00:19:56,599 --> 00:20:00,240 Everyone doesn't have to be a Spartan, but spartans never die. He 304 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:03,000 should have put Chief up there, and just that would have been a huge 305 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:11,599 game changer. He should have been he should be he he should be doing 306 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,279 more, you think. But I like him because he's not doing what is 307 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,039 right. He's doing all these different things that is like against Chief and everything 308 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:25,880 like that. I feel like that's that's more represented well just with this character 309 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:32,920 in general. Now. I don't remember a lot of direct communication between Acrison 310 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,720 and Chief and the books or anything along those lines, but I do remember 311 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:38,880 just how he acted in certain just mannerisms, and I feel like Ackrison in 312 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,599 the show is definitely portraying that really, really well. And that's just that's 313 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,599 just my own take. But I stand with you on the fact that how 314 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,200 they introduced him was very ill. They throw him at while he walks into 315 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,240 a room and I can't remember the spartan's name, if it was Kai, 316 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,839 but she's like, who's this guy, And it's like, okay, we're 317 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:02,920 so we the audience are supposed to be the Spartans right now, and we're 318 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:07,240 learning about this guy with them. But as he's in there for thirty seconds 319 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:10,319 and then he leaves and you still have no idea who this guy is, 320 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,319 just that he's now the new head Hauk show. It's a terrible job delivering 321 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,960 information about who this guy is. Yeah, I get I feel like maybe 322 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,640 they're hemming up his evilness or like his suspiciousness, maybe like too much at 323 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,200 the start. I feel like maybe we should establish some report where there's like 324 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,160 some reason or root for him first and then try and take him down or 325 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,759 like that's when you do the more severe things and then we as an audience 326 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:37,359 more struggle to go along with him, or like right off the bats, 327 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,279 like I hate this guy and I don't want him to succeed and I want 328 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:44,279 everything against him, and I'm not even like diard fan for this Chief and 329 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:47,440 this Silver Team. We talked about the issues we have those characters in the 330 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,720 first season, So yeah, I guess it just feels like a weird way 331 00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:55,279 to start him off here too, And I don't know there was even like 332 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:57,599 someone necessary, so like I don't really understand the point of that scene he 333 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,640 had with Kai when he brings Kai into his office to confirm, Like how 334 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,359 do you feel about Chief as a as a leader. I don't know. 335 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Maybe they're setting up that Kai is gonna go against Chief potentially because also when 336 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,880 he's in the ship at the end and Kai's asking like are we approved to 337 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,440 go in combat? And like Chief just lies to her right then and there. 338 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:19,720 So maybe that's what they're setting up, and maybe that's the breadcrumb we're 339 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,920 getting there is also her that defending him, but then maybe he'll be able 340 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:30,720 to sway her overtime or something. But it's not really working for me so 341 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,279 much, and I guess I also, I really have no idea where we're 342 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,000 going with Akerson. I don't really know what his big game plan is yet 343 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,160 and I don't need to. It's still like fairly early on here. But 344 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,559 maybe that's a part of it too, where I just don't really understand like 345 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,839 the trajectory, and that makes me a little less invested at the moment. 346 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Mm hmm. I think you're very much correct that they are gonna try and 347 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:56,359 maybe pitch Spartan against Spartan here with Silver Team, which I hate to see. 348 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,319 And I'm gonna let that segue into another thing seeing Cobo and Silver Team 349 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,559 just them talking about killing each other and just their banter. I was getting 350 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,319 pissed off. This is fucking bullshit. I don't know any scenario where you 351 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,279 got these spartan twos just fucking dreaming each other out like this. What the 352 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:17,119 fuck are you kidding me? You have a group of kids that were all 353 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,519 abducted and all formed really close knit bonds to each other. And while definitely 354 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:26,279 certain squads are more connected into and than others, I'm sure, but the 355 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:30,440 only thing that they did right that I appreciated was there was a little bit 356 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:33,640 of disrespect when Master Chief finally came to the conversation said something to COBALT's leader 357 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,400 and he just acknowledged, like, yes, Chief, that's like okay, 358 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,960 it seems like there's a respect for Chief, yes, But they hate the 359 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,160 other three people for something yeah apparently, which I think is just ridiculous because 360 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,240 they all have the same thing in common and they all like it just doesn't 361 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:55,480 make sense. That's something with the books. You have spartans all spartan two 362 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,839 like spartan two's that haven't seen each other in a long time. They get 363 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:02,400 thrown into the mix together and they're just like in sync instantly. They're like 364 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,839 best friends. Like, uh, never separated whatever, and that just really 365 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,400 bothers me to see them at at all. It's like this, I could 366 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,920 see a difference between even Spartan threes and Spartan two's. They mingle really really 367 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,039 well, but you see, you see certain things and how maybe in Halo 368 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,559 five Guardians where there's respect. Even in Halo Infinite or not Hale Infinite, 369 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:27,279 Halo four, there's certain respect, but there's still a dispute between like Spartan 370 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:33,599 two's and Spartan four's I would say, because Spartan four's are more I don't 371 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,359 know, there's just there's a little bit of a stigma, I would say, 372 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,440 And that's just what I've observed and how I take that. But you 373 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,079 see Spartan two's going at it, I just fucking maybe want to pull my 374 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:47,240 hair out. Yeah, And in terms of like yeah, if they're setting 375 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:51,960 up this kind of Spartan versus Spartan situation, like do you with this thing 376 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,279 of Akerson bringing in the threes, Like do you think that's something that would 377 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,160 happen this season in terms of the timing of things, in which case, 378 00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:03,079 like why do we really need the all this like petty conflict like Goddamn. 379 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,039 That locker room scene was like so cringe to me. All the dialogue. 380 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:10,119 Oh, I don't even I don't want to get into it. But I 381 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,359 was not a fan of that scene. Yeah, I was not a fan 382 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,640 at all. I mean, I don't know if they would bring in Spartan 383 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,960 threes and I mean Ackerson, I'm sure that whatever motives that they're wanting to 384 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,799 give him, I doubt that it's going to be a Spartan three program at 385 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,000 this point. I feel like if we get season three, maybe we would 386 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,599 be down the road then. But I think for now they're just using him 387 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,799 as an inhibitor against Chief and Silver Team, and he's just going to be 388 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,240 kind of like looming over them and lumin in the background, trying to get 389 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:48,599 a grasp on when Reach falls. I think that's all his his His his 390 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,680 part in this season is going to be is just that. And I mean 391 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:53,839 that he said maybe at the end he's going to come for and be like, 392 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,680 yeah, we're going to be you know, we're losing to any Spartans, 393 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,200 Cobalt, they're dead. You know, we gotta make more. So 394 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:04,119 here's my plan. Maybe season two ends on like a cliffhanger where he introduces 395 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,960 all these new spartans or something. I don't know, but right we'll see 396 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720 that. That was the thing I was kind of intrigued by, is I 397 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,480 mean, I like, I guess that's where I had issues with some pacing 398 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:19,480 in these first two episodes, because it's pretty obvious ones Akerson is benching Chief 399 00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:23,400 that they're gonna go against command there and go hunt down who, I don't 400 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,319 whatever their mission was going to be. I knew that they were going to 401 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,000 go against his command even if they haven't been given the go ahead to go 402 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,240 do something. And I just felt like, why did we have to wait 403 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:33,880 till the end of episode two to get to that, Like, let's get 404 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,000 into it a bit quicker, especially if there's one less episode. But that 405 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,000 is what I'm intrigued by. I'm excited to go see Silver Team go try 406 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:47,960 and track down Cobalt and whatever happens there. I don't really know what to 407 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,960 expect from that, but I thought that was, uh, it was pretty 408 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,680 well done. And also like setting up Acerson is like lying about where Cobalt 409 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:59,119 was sent and what's going on, Like I'm intrigued to see what the answer 410 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,240 to that whole sequence is going to be Yeah, and hopefully there's some cool 411 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,759 action that comes along with it too, I hope. So the action always 412 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:11,359 helps kind of lessen the blow with this show. There's I get that they're 413 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:18,200 trying to make a comparison with Silver Team to Blue Team and Blue Team that's 414 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,400 Chiefs Squad from the games and the books, Fred, Linda and Kelly. 415 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,680 Even in that Halo Live action film that they did Ford into Dawn, you 416 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,480 get to see Fred and Kelly in that in that movie. And when you 417 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,680 have Chief giving out orders, giving out commands and these books and these games 418 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:42,480 and whatnot, like they don't even question it. They're there, they're doing 419 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,240 it. And so when you have an episode one Chief giving an order and 420 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:49,039 Vanik is like, you know, babysitting WLA, It's like, man, 421 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,200 this is so not not cool. I don't like this. And then again 422 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,960 with we already talked about a Kai looming in, like well, we're we're 423 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:03,039 given permission to to go go caught like go weapons free here, Chief or 424 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:04,599 whatever, and she's like yeah, like he lies to them, Like that's 425 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,359 just not spartanly, like doesn't it doesn't jive? Like in Halo five, 426 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,039 Guardians Blue teams didn't even question it. Chief went a wall and they were 427 00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:15,960 with him, right, So why isn't this team doing it too? Now 428 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,720 that they all remove their pellets, maybe they're all just freedom thinkers. I 429 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:22,400 guess if maybe they kept the pellets in there, maybe they would have been 430 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,279 inclined to listen to him and not question him. That's the only thing I 431 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,599 could I could think of. Yeah, and I I mean, I'm based 432 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,640 on what we've gotten the show so far season one, I would be inclined 433 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,680 to believe that they would follow him into go hunt down Coolbalt even if he 434 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:44,920 had been truthful there. So I'm curious to see why why he did give 435 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,680 that answer. But once again, maybe it's because because even then, like 436 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,240 if Akerson was putting these seeds in Kai's mind that he's not trustworthy or he's 437 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,240 got some mental stuff going on, he's not a good leader right now, 438 00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:00,960 Like Chief didn't know that that occur, right, So how would how would 439 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,680 he know that he should lie there because the seed, the seeds have already 440 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,039 been planted, Like he doesn't really know any of that. So I felt 441 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,400 like, I don't know, I don't really know why the what the purpose 442 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,799 was of a lie, Yeah, unless there was some pre existing notion, 443 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,920 because the only way that falls out is they're all in a room and they're 444 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,440 told like Chief never had permission to take you guys out, and then Kay 445 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,279 looks at Chief like what you lie? Like something like that. But that 446 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,839 kind of changes it up a little bit. Them removing their pelts. It's 447 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,400 kind of weird that the like the unsc is just like, yeah, spartans, 448 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,599 if you want to remove them, go ahead and remove them. That 449 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960 did not bode well in season one when like two like multiple spartans were like 450 00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:47,480 down because like they just remember in those scenes. So when they first took 451 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:51,880 their chips out and like ever being all loopy and we're painting their hair, 452 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:59,079 they're doing some sh the grease in the hair. Very questionable performances or not 453 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:04,160 performances, but manners, I guess also performances. It's weird. So see 454 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:11,960 in season one, Vanick and Riz like really didn't have a story or much 455 00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:17,400 characterization. Like Kai was the other one who was given a ton of story. 456 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,359 And I feel like, so far, it feels like Riz is getting 457 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,240 a lot of content here so far, I mean, at least relative to 458 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,039 season one where like I could not tell you any defining trait about her. 459 00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:30,400 She was just kind of in the crew, even Vanik had had more. 460 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,519 But yeah, how are you feeling about her? She's just like really just 461 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,359 seems like she' has some temper issues that anytime anyone says that and she's like, 462 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,960 I'll fuck you up'll kill you. Like whether she was talking to her 463 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,599 like I guess physio therapist guy or the other people in the locker room, 464 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,720 uh, just really aggressive. She's going through all of these I don't know. 465 00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,839 I guess just she has to heal. She's kind of physically pretty fucked 466 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,119 up from some of the actions of season one. I suppose I can't even 467 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,680 remember what happened to her exactly, but I'm sure was in there. So 468 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:04,880 yeah, how are you feeling about her? Now? We're seeing like more 469 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,960 of her or a different side of her. I like getting to see a 470 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,079 different side of her and they getting to see more of her story develop. 471 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:18,000 But I'm just curious what their end goal is. Are they trying to overall 472 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,720 just show us and teach us that hey, not all Spartans need to be 473 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,759 warriors, because I feel like, okay, well, we kind of got 474 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:27,680 that with Soren. He did disregarded his past and jump ship and didn't want 475 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,359 to be a Spartan, so he just went and became like a pirate bandit 476 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720 guy. So now they're implying, like, is she going to live the 477 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,799 life of a pacifist? Is what is her plan? Like, they're kind 478 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,920 of putting the stones in front of her to leave being a Spartan behind and 479 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:47,720 be something different. Even her trainer, who was apparently a Spartan until the 480 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:51,559 procedures made him lose his eyesight, kind of implied that, hey, there's 481 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,680 more to life than being the super soldier. You don't have to be that. 482 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,480 So I'm curious if that's the route they're going to take with her character 483 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,039 ultimately. And I feel bad because I'd like to see more of her just 484 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:08,160 being a Spartan, especially being injured now and her overcoming that and making a 485 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,599 comeback over that. I would really like to see that because I feel like 486 00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:15,200 she'd be forced to reckon with her temper. Tantrums are definitely a thing, 487 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,960 very potent thing. Yeah, it just feels like a part of her personality 488 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,519 that I don't seem to remember from the first season. She was very very 489 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,839 quiet, and especially Vanik was. I mean, he's he's probably like fourth 490 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,039 in terms of story development. Quiet, I'd say, still, but he's 491 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,720 he's gotten a lot more personality added to him, and I think it's kind 492 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,119 of fun that the actor can do that now with this character instead of playing 493 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,119 just a robot. Thanks I guess to the pelp being removed. He likes 494 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:51,160 to watch his what does he watch his programs? Like shows or something like 495 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:59,559 that. Very peculiar. I'm trying to think what other stuff occurred with Chief 496 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,440 and that her crew. So, I mean, also at one point he's 497 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,799 in the shower, I was wondering if we're gonna see those master cheeks. 498 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,839 I'm just afraid, Like I'm I like the fact that he slept with someone. 499 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,680 I'm afraid that he's I thought he was going to sleep with Perez. 500 00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:20,039 I just don't know anymore. Like he's just he's just unhinged and he's ready 501 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,200 to go. He went into that like blade runner room where he was trying 502 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,920 to like activate the hologram and like he's changing her look constantly, Like I 503 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,480 was like, what is going on? I don't even know what to say 504 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:35,640 about that one. It was bizarre the hoodie had on there. I'm like, 505 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,240 this is not my Chief. No weird stuff. No, and he 506 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,559 rocked the hood again when he goes to the elevator to speak with the admiral. 507 00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,839 I can't remember her name, but I totally forgot about this character and 508 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,119 forgot that she took the hit for Halsey. And she's like, yeah, 509 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,519 she's living underground now. Apparently I'm a civilian now. So basically, anything 510 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,519 that he learns Chief learns accurson or I guess other stuff, she's he's going 511 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:05,759 to report it to her. I don't know what good that does because she's 512 00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,559 a civilian. Yeah, I don't know. And what what did happen to 513 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:15,199 Miranda Keys in season one? At the end? I have no memory. 514 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:22,679 I thought she was still kicking around on Reach. Yeah, I guess I 515 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,679 remember. She was like trying to get more responsibility, trying to climb up, 516 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,719 get a promotion sort of thing. And oh, yeah, they put 517 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,159 her in her dad like didn't really want her to have more responsibility or something 518 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,199 like this. Yeah, they put her in Halsey's labs. You're right, 519 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,800 she did have a lot more responsibility, and its just like a science officer 520 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,119 or something like that. But I guess she got the shaft here down, 521 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,039 but her dad is still there, so I imagine she'll show up it, 522 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,039 but maybe she won't because like every other character that I can think of at 523 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:57,559 least had some screen time here, like McKee uh and and Kwan were at 524 00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,000 least like here. Barely was more just like there in the season and you'll 525 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,079 see them later. I guess we got a little bit more of Kwan, 526 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:06,239 but yeah, with her, we didn't even see her at all, right, 527 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,119 So yeah, I hope they do bring her in. I mean, 528 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:12,920 she's a very in Halo too. She's a huge main character for sure, 529 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719 and then she remember liking her as well from season one, one of the 530 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,880 few characters that I was into her journey for the most part. Yeah, 531 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:24,199 absolutely, so hopefully they don't scrap her. Was there anything else on like 532 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:29,039 the unsc that you wanted to touch upon, because you meant you mentioned Kwan 533 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:34,119 there? Ah, Yeah, what's there to say about Kwan? I mean 534 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,360 episode one didn't really have much, like she was kind of in the cave 535 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:44,199 with Soren's Soren's kid, right, and then she had that action sequence which 536 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,679 was which was decent. I thought it was pretty okay. I like the 537 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,559 setting of that that. I mean even in like from season one two, 538 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,440 I really just Soren's astroid. I always forget the name of that play. 539 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,039 Does it have a name that we know? Have no idea wherever that place 540 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:01,559 is. I like the look and feel love. It feels very gritty, 541 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:04,920 and I like just seeing all the stuff going on in the background. It's 542 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,039 very just richly detailed and all that. So I I like that action scene 543 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,719 enough there and yeah, like I just like to see even like for Kuan, 544 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,559 that was she had to kill that guy and that weighed on her pretty 545 00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,280 heavily there, So that was interesting to see. I don't really know where 546 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,679 her story's going, but I also have no clue what the hell is going 547 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,800 on with sore and and that storyline, So I feel a bit lost there 548 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,519 given the given the screen time in these first couple episodes, so I don't 549 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:36,800 know. We'll see because that was I think one of our biggest complaints with 550 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,639 season one is not necessarily we didn't like Kwan or the acting or anything, 551 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,840 but it was just that storyline was like why is this here? Like this 552 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,639 is not feeding into the greater narrative and it's not even that intriguing on it. 553 00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:49,719 On the side of it, And that was also a thing. So 554 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,960 they were naming off planets that were destroyed by the Covenant and magical like that's 555 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,559 her home planet right or where she was and she was they just name dropped 556 00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,000 that was destroyed and it's gone now. So that felt like kind of like, 557 00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,320 well, that's kind of a bit of a just throwaway line for this 558 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,280 place. That was a pretty big setting in season one, so that was 559 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,199 also surprising. So I don't know, it doesn't seem like that would be 560 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:14,079 her stories going back there. Maybe at some point we'll get her reaction, 561 00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:15,480 or maybe she already knows that I got destroyed. I'm I'm not sure. 562 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,920 Yeah, that I mean seeing plants get destroyed there being glassed. It was 563 00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:25,079 very cool to kind of see that in live action. It's such a I 564 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:29,960 thought the effects were great for that stuff. Yeah, it's a very brutal 565 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,599 thing that the Covenant does. Of course, from the covet they added this 566 00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:37,239 new thing where like they're training the elites I guess as they go into the 567 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,039 planet before they glass Yeah, well that was weird. That was Chief's theory 568 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,960 at least, But I took. I took it that there was more going 569 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,360 on, like they were looking for someone in particular, or looking for an 570 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,480 artifact or I don't know whatever they're looking for, but at the same time, 571 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,239 like they're not looking that like I I mean, I don't understand yet 572 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,639 why they left Chief alive, but there's obviously some story element there. So 573 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,639 maybe it is just that simple. Maybe it is just training, but I 574 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,119 feel like there's some other layer that we don't know yet. You're absolutely spot 575 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,760 on, and that's in the games. The biggest reason why they attack Reach, 576 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,559 why they don't glass at they deploy the ground troops, because Reach is 577 00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:22,320 like a massive archive of Forerunner tech, the stuff that they love. They 578 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,360 just salivate for that stuff, and if you destroy it or hamper it, 579 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,880 then it's like super heretical, heretic, heretical. I think that's heretical. 580 00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,039 Yeah, so you don't want to do that if you're if you remember the 581 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,280 Covenant, but maybe that I definitely would stand with that theory that you you 582 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,599 proposed with them at the beginning, just not wanting to destroy the planet right 583 00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:50,360 away. Additionally, I think with Kwan, like you mentioned, I think 584 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:54,360 she was much better in this season. I think that season one, there 585 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,519 is definitely some stuff going on that yeah, I wasn't really driving with the 586 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,840 character. But in season this season, season two so far, I feel 587 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,559 like it was either better writing, albeit brief as it is. I just 588 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,639 think that she she as an actress, is just really like bringing it. 589 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239 I feel like, Okay, there's definitely some more stuff going on here with 590 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,119 this character that I am liking, and I'm thankful for that. Her look 591 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:20,599 was cool too. Her look was cool, kind of mad, was just 592 00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:23,360 trying to shroud herself high herself, and I thought it looked nice. Yeah. 593 00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:28,760 And I also think that the story of just these ear these ear pieces 594 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,119 that you have to wear, like it seems like if you're you're like an 595 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,880 orphan of another planet and these groups will take you in, but you're kind 596 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,760 of like their servants or their slaves something like that battle tag essentially right, 597 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:45,079 basically yeah, dehumanizing, which is good. Yeah good angle mm hm, 598 00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:47,239 so I I I welcome that into the Halo storyline, at least with these 599 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,840 like underground like rogue bandit running groups. It's kind of cool. But uh 600 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,119 yeah, I mean that's that's pretty much it. You just get to see 601 00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,719 her be kind of like that buddy buddy to Soren's kid and whatnot. A 602 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:07,199 orn goes missing, he gets and he gets bamboozled, bamboozled hard. But 603 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,159 before we carry on, we're gonna jump to another ad break. We'll be 604 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:15,880 you right back, and we are back. Well, I actually want I 605 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,239 just thought about this, So maybe before we get to Soren and stuff, 606 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,320 I should ask this, which is and maybe you know the answer because you're 607 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,199 the lower master here, But why why didn't they covenant weather? Whatever they're 608 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,639 doing finding this four un tech? Why wouldn't they kill chief there? They 609 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,320 am dead to rights. They had forty dudes with energy swords. He was 610 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,480 outnumbered. Why did they leave him alive? There? There's there's no reason, 611 00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:42,119 no reason at all. There is some reason. The only minor, 612 00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:45,559 miniscal thing I could ever tell myself is that elites are very honorable and if 613 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:50,039 this was not a fair fight, that they would back off. I guess 614 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,360 for that reason. But like that was a fair well, I mean, 615 00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,400 the forty verse one. Maybe that's not fair. But yeah, he had 616 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,880 just killed like what at least three or four of them, a few of 617 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,880 them. Yeah, So again that's that's me trying to piece it together, 618 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,920 but all and I think that, like he's the demon, they should have 619 00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,800 they should have went and killed him instead of just leaving it to chance, 620 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,199 Like, hey, we're just gonna start glassing the planet and chances are you're 621 00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,599 probably gonna die, master Chief. It's just it's just doesn't fit. Mm 622 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:22,400 hmm. Yeah, yeah, I love that term glassing the planet glass. 623 00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:29,639 That's the official Halo term. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, I mean 624 00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:31,760 I I don't I personally don't have a lot really to add to Sora and 625 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,840 just that it seems like he's just got this fixation with Halsey and it's ruining 626 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,239 his family. He's having fights with his wife and now he got kidnapped. 627 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:47,039 Yeah, so yeah, I don't. I that there was that Zero G 628 00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,679 kinda. I mean, it was all a trap, really, but I 629 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,280 thought there was a cool set piece. At least you kind of have this 630 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,599 torpy little kid who's leading him on this married chase. I think it would 631 00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,800 have been cool if they were also in Zero G. I understand it's a 632 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,000 lot more work, I'm sure to get the effects going on for that, 633 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:05,639 but I think it could have been a cool, more cool setting if we 634 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,960 had that, but all these like shipping containers like smashing into each other and 635 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,920 whatnot. But yeah, that's I I'm kind of with you on that. 636 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880 I don't think I have much on Soar and yet just kind of have to 637 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,960 wait and see, uh, kind of see where that story goes, because 638 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,360 I feel like it was I can't remember when exactly was because I watched episodes 639 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,039 back to back, but I feel like early on in episode two he got 640 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,639 kidnapped and then we just like didn't see any of the yet. So yeah, 641 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,159 I'm not too sure. I did appreciate the nod to Harvest. That 642 00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,920 was a cool little Easter egg. Harvest is basically the first planet that the 643 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,880 Covenant went and took over. I guess they're kind of like held hostage. 644 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,400 There's a lot of really cool kind of Halo lore involved with involved with that, 645 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,800 because the Covenant realizes what humanity is and there's like a in the books, 646 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,000 there's like a brief meeting where humanity like they give fruit and like some 647 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,199 things of kindness to the Covenant, and the Covenant like don't get it. 648 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,079 And then the Covenant realized that because they were here because they were looking for 649 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,920 Forerunner related things and they realized that, oh, like humans are these Forerunner 650 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,559 related things because it's a whole thing. And then that's why they decided to 651 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:22,159 wage war against humanity. Right, Okay, it's convoluted, but a good 652 00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,559 little easterg good little east egg. Yeah that shot too, like the Covenant 653 00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:30,280 fleet like kind of emerging through the clouds or the fog layer. That was 654 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,760 an absolute episode highlight. That was ten seconds of amazingness out of forty minutes 655 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,960 of questionability. Yeah, yeah, we talked. We already kind of talked 656 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,679 about that opening cuts in from episode one, but just a couple other high 657 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,199 Like I liked the foggy setting up. I thought it was cool. There's 658 00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:58,239 a couple interesting moments where the one like Covenant is coming up behind behind Chief 659 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,000 and he like croaches, he like croaches like a shot on behind his shoulder 660 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,000 and takes him out. I thought that was really cool. It was a 661 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,360 fun scene other than yeah, like some messygi in parts for Chief in particular, 662 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,159 I thought that was a fun, like well choreographed sequence. And then 663 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,320 yeah, just the shot of like the beams coming down and then like instantly 664 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,679 turning to lava and that's spewing out and there was that one shot where the 665 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,320 beams coming down, like one of the ships is trying to fly away and 666 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,119 it just gets beam, It gets beam, gets beamed in half, and 667 00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,559 I was just like, oh, I get just a gut wrenching moment. 668 00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,760 It was really really well done. I liked, liked all those visuals there. 669 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,119 We also got to see him with like a grapple shot, which is 670 00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,840 introduced in the latest game, so that was kind of cool, yeah, 671 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,679 because that was a that wasn't in five, right, that was just infinite 672 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,920 that had oh yeah, just infinite. Yeah, that's kind of was pretty 673 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:52,000 neat. Yeah. I mean, I would definitely put the first episode maybe 674 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:57,800 higher on the scale than the second one just because of certain like Halo vibes 675 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,760 and aesthetic said that episode really put out there. Halo two or episode two 676 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:08,400 just felt just felt like more drama and backstory and like Chief grabbing Akerson's arm 677 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,920 and Chief that oh God, like, yeah he was seeing the girl and 678 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:21,800 I almost forgot that freakin mackay Mac she's back. She's back in the episode 679 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,360 twoing a lot, I think is the vibe I'm getting. I think so, 680 00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:29,119 I really do think so. I like the Covenant. They probably got 681 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,639 wicked healing technology, and they am sure they healed her up because they want 682 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:36,400 to keep her because she can activate this this tech. But I don't need 683 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,480 this character. I really really don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm curious to 684 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,159 you what the story is for her exactly. I do think she's one of 685 00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:49,079 the better actors of this show, so I think there's some potential there. 686 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,679 But she, Yeah, she's definitely. She got so little screen time out 687 00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:58,079 than that sequence at the end with the the other Covenant just fucking up those 688 00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:02,800 marines. So yeah, I don't really have much to add on her yet. 689 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,559 Kind of hopefully hopefully it's an upturn from season one. How much do 690 00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:12,480 you think her story is gonna roll around Chief like it didn't, because it 691 00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:15,280 kind of seems like right now like she's kind of just off doing something separate. 692 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,719 I don't know. Yeah, she's definitely doing her own thing. Ah, 693 00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:22,760 So I'm curious how I'm curious how much more she's gonna actually have in 694 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,760 the story. But I think that she's gonna probably play a consistent, parallel, 695 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,920 prominent haunting position on Chief because Chief seems to just keep on thinking like 696 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,079 he's hearing her and seeing her and he's trying to make his holograms like look 697 00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,360 like her, Halsey and Kortana all mixed in one. I don't know. 698 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,079 He's just he's fucked up right now. My god, he is. One 699 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:50,880 moment that I thought was funny was when he goes to Perez's house to uh 700 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,559 talk to her find out what's going on, and then like Perez's mom walks 701 00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,639 up to the door and she's just like, you are very large, and 702 00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:04,639 he's like, yes, ma'am. That got me. He just he's like 703 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,559 he always acts the same for every scene, pretty much like with the odd 704 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:13,400 exception. I just thought his reaction there was was good, good, good, 705 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,639 that was good. It was just so weird to him just going and 706 00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:19,320 they're having dinner with the family and the brothers are talking like, so, 707 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,480 man, what's your KD ratio? That was like some you know, first 708 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,519 half an hour of Grand Treismo cringe and and I was so after the episode 709 00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:34,599 was done, and I was like getting ready the auto play on Paramount took 710 00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:38,719 Me to took me to Twisted Metal. I was like, I'm just like 711 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:45,119 hearing the first minute of that Anthony Maggiew's character. It had that sort of 712 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:51,360 energy of like trying to capture like video game talk. It's pretty goofy. 713 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,840 What do you think the Spartan Attack though, This concept of there being a 714 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,320 presumed a video game in this world called Spartan Attack. Yeah, I mean 715 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,119 I didn't really think about video games inside like the Halo world itself, yeah, 716 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:08,639 and then being based off the actual Spartans because people, the regular civilians 717 00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:10,639 kind of look up to them. How close do you think it is to 718 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:17,719 Halo as a game? I've been playing as chief in Spartan Attack. Oh? 719 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,679 Absolutely, I think I think it's probably like you're wearing the Apple Vision 720 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:27,480 pro. I think that's what it is. It's four thousand dollars, Yeah, 721 00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:32,039 four thousand dollars game. So he's asking, was Katie goddamn? You 722 00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:38,440 mentioned it briefly there when mackay was returning, But you get that cool sequence 723 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,199 of the Marines going down the hall, and it's just I feel like this 724 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,400 this commander, he was kind of stupid because he's like, Okay, first 725 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,679 wave go and they just get slaughtered. Second wave go. Man, you 726 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,000 reevaluate your scenario, your situation here. Your first squad that you sent in 727 00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:57,840 completely botched. So why would you send in the next wave and then you're 728 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,320 all alone and questionable. But I like that that takes place on Sword Base 729 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,559 because that's another iconic location from Halo Reach. It's one of the I think 730 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:10,960 the first areas are engagements between the Covenant and the UNSCA the Sword Base. 731 00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:15,320 Yeah, what do I need to know about Sword Base? I don't think 732 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,239 you really need to know much except in the show. It seems like that's 733 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,639 just where they're housing the one half of that the device. I guess where 734 00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:27,599 that tells them or Halo the Rings are I'm assuming what they called it, 735 00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,519 Like, didn't they just call the artifact? Or maybe that's just such a 736 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:32,440 generic term these days Starfield had all these artifacts. I don't know. I 737 00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,800 might be mixing up my scide by at this point. No, I think 738 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,199 you're right. I think it is just the artifact. Yeah. What do 739 00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,679 you think about what's going on with Halsey so far? In the first two 740 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:50,760 episodes, she's in this weird kind of I don't know, also Apple Vision 741 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,480 situation where she's put in this presumed world and they're kind of they're not torturing 742 00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:58,119 her, but they're trying to like do some mind tricks on her to get 743 00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:00,039 her to spill the beans, but he's captured. But then there's like a 744 00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:02,000 portal, and it's like, I don't really know where this is. I 745 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,119 am very confused by it, clearly, as you can tell by my description 746 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,039 of what is going on. They keeps sending in a clone to die after 747 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,079 playing backgammon, which is weird, and I honestly could not tell you what's 748 00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:16,880 going on here. But I feel like if you're not, if you're just 749 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:23,119 wasting screen time, why even have these scenes period? We're not getting we 750 00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:28,239 have not gotten anything out of Halsey. We've not got anything of the fact 751 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,760 that, aside from okay, Akerson just has her in containment on her lockdown. 752 00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:36,159 We could have had that covered in a quick brief scene like they showed 753 00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:38,679 with him and Cortana. Just show him go down to the basement of his 754 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,840 little house, his business office. He's gone. Then you could see Halsey 755 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,159 in a cell or something down there. That's all we needed to see. 756 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,280 I did not need an extended sequence of her talking to a clone trying to 757 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,719 figure out who is the guy that's got her trapped here, and then it 758 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,079 turns out it's just Akriston because he doesn't even carry he just walks in there 759 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,679 anyway, So the secrecy is irrelevant to who the man was. And yeah, 760 00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:06,880 it's just it's it's pointless. I don't understand it. Yeah, it 761 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,960 definitely feels just like patting. It's I don't know this show really sees the 762 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,280 one in this first two episodes so far just really struggles with pacing in general. 763 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,679 And you have all these storylines and these subplots and these sub storylines, 764 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,920 and I feel like they really they really struggle once they were like filmed it 765 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,159 all to like, Okay, how do we chop this together? How do 766 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,719 we make this cohesive? And I don't know. I feel like maybe a 767 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,360 better way to go is to have longer cohesive sequences rather than jumping from thing 768 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,920 to thing and just getting so little development, because like, damn, we're 769 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,199 already a quarter through this season, you know, like we've already gone a 770 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,800 decent ways through, and I feel like, for at least to or through 771 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,840 these storylines, we haven't made any ground yet. So I don't know. 772 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,280 I and I guess, like the first episode was I think fifty seven minutes 773 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,800 like with credits. The second one was like forty forty something with credits. 774 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,280 I don't know, I want. I'm curious if the times will be quite 775 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,199 random and sporadic like that, or if it's more just like episode one, 776 00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:07,559 we're gonna open with a bang and then I don't know, it'll be like 777 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:10,000 forty five minute episodes throughout, because yeah, we're probably gonna get a lot 778 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,719 less screen time in general than we did in that first season. Now maybe 779 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,920 there's less setup to be done. It doesn't seem like we're having too many 780 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,920 new characters really, just like Akerson and maybe some other Meyer ones. So 781 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,440 h I don't know. I think I'm I'm glad that it's shorter just for 782 00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:28,360 that pacing thing, but I hope they can pull it off still, I 783 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,760 don't know, you know, it's so far. I agree with you though, 784 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,519 it feels like we're wasting time on some of these, some of these 785 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:42,320 subplots. Yeah. One more thing I guess I have is uh, oh 786 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,199 gosh, that I really just lose my train of thought with it related other 787 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:55,960 character pacing, episode count, Oh my gosh, sheep related, Oh my 788 00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,719 gosh. It was bothering me so much, and I think I just it 789 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:07,079 just evaporated and disintegrated out of my mind. Damn, maybe it'll come back 790 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:14,039 to me. I don't know where you're going with it, so, oh 791 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,000 my gosh, that's gonna bother me. I'm gonna think about it after action. 792 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:22,280 CGI character it was definitely a character thing. It was something that a 793 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:29,119 character did and it really really kai let me just when we're don't talk about 794 00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:32,440 Chief Commander Keys. Was it him related? We haven't talked about him at 795 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,000 all. No, it wasn't him related. Oh I remember, thank you, 796 00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,039 thank you, thank you, thank God. So Chief they walk into 797 00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:43,199 the room, it's like a little Spartan briefing room, and the guy's changing 798 00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:46,960 the words for like the Spartan squads and he changes the words so like to 799 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,400 stand by for Cobalt team. She's like, what do you think you're doing? 800 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,239 You take that down now? He just reams on this por man. 801 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,559 He's like, they tell me. He literally says it. They tell me 802 00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,679 to change a sign, and I changed the sign. You take that down? 803 00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:06,960 This. I felt so bad for that kid. You tell us like 804 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,679 his first job sort of thing. He's like new, it's like his second 805 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,199 day or something. He's getting reamed out by like this person. He's looked 806 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,400 up to his whole life. Oh yeah, Oh my god, I was 807 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:29,199 just dying laughing at that. Well, that four kid man a good shout 808 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:32,800 out. I think that's all all I got. Yeah, me too, 809 00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,079 me too, Yeah, okay. Looking forward to hearing Kirkland's thoughts when he 810 00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:42,320 joins us next week. Mm hmm. Yeah. I'm curious if Travis might 811 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,320 sneak in here eventually. Oh no, I don't think so. Well, 812 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,920 speak of the devil. Look at that. If you're on the YouTube show, 813 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,400 you know what he's watching. He had like a pony with a little 814 00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:57,960 Yeah, he's got like a what the heck is he holding in his hands? 815 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:02,199 Oh my goodness, Oh that's it. Okay, Uh, well I 816 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,519 think uh yeah, that about uh what about does that? So we'll be 817 00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:09,239 back next week? Uh next week. Yeah, you're gonna get Madam Webb 818 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,880 on the Wednesday, and then we'll be back for Halo on Thursday. Yeah 819 00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:19,400 crazy. Until then, thank you for tuning in. We'll see you in 820 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,679 the search bar. Have a good one bye everyone,