1 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:13,480 This is Beer in Front, part of the Odd Pods Media Network. Sometimes 2 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:17,039 the beer in front of you is the best one yet. I'll talk about 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,600 some old school beers that maybe you've forgotten about, some new beers that have 4 00:00:22,719 --> 00:00:27,199 the potential to be a classic. I'll also talk to various people around the 5 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:33,399 beer world and get their stories all about beer. That's Beer in Front and 6 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:43,000 it's coming up now. Welcome to the January ninth edition, episode one hundred 7 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:48,719 and ninety two of Beer in Front. I'm your host Dave Xalatoris, and 8 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:54,679 Beer in Front is a proud odd Pods Media Network member. On the podcast, 9 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:58,920 today, I'll talk with Karen Shehan, who you may know is all 10 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:04,640 the Beer More Beer on social media. Karen is also a beer enthusiast advocate, 11 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:08,799 and that was a good talk. I talked to her a couple of 12 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:15,439 weeks ago before January, so I had a beer she mentioned from Pipeworks and 13 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:23,239 I'll talk about that later in the episode. There was a story so absurd 14 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:27,879 last week that I'm bringing back the jag off of the week one week only. 15 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,159 But yes, we have a jag off this week, one week into 16 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:38,840 dry January, and I'm still going strong I'm recording this on Saturday the sixth, 17 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:45,280 and I'm already down four pounds. I noticed it in my face where 18 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:51,480 it's definitely not as puffy. My sleep is still jacked up, but that's 19 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:56,000 because of my back. But overall, I'm glad I'm doing this. Ruby 20 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,840 and I are going to go to a mocktail event this week. I think 21 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,359 it's near me on Ravenswood, so I'll let you know all about that on 22 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:09,719 the next podcast. If you'd like to support the show, head over to 23 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,719 Patreon dot com slash beer in Front and you can find out more details there. 24 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Also, don't forget to check out the rest of the social media peeds. 25 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:25,039 You could follow me everywhere at beer in Front. I put videos up 26 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,000 on YouTube a couple times a week, so if you got some spare time, 27 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:39,719 check out the rest of Beer in Front on social media. In Beer 28 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:47,319 News, Japanese brewing company Asahi they're going to purchase Wisconsin based Octopi Brewing. 29 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Octopi is one of the country's largest craft contract breweries. You find their stuff 30 00:02:55,479 --> 00:03:02,039 at Trader Joe's all the and they do contract brewing for a lot of breweries. 31 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:08,280 This acquisition is going to allow Japan's most popular beer, Asahi Super Dry, 32 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:15,639 that's going to now be brewed here in the States. Sunday, January 33 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:22,159 fourteenth is Thank You for Smoking. This is a day long celebration of smoked 34 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:27,199 beer over at Dovetail. Now this and I'm gonna mispronounce this. This is 35 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:32,080 a bru shop in This is going to be held in collaboration with Kaiser Tiger. 36 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,840 This is an all you could eat and drink event. Check out Dovetail's 37 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:44,439 website for more details. The Craft Beer Marketing Awards the Crushies are open for 38 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:51,000 submissions now. Head over to the Crushies dot com for more details. Once 39 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:54,080 again, I'm gonna be one of the judges. This is a really cool 40 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:00,960 award and it's always great to see some fantastic artwork in the field of beer. 41 00:04:01,639 --> 00:04:06,759 Twenty first Amendment is coming out with Find Your Fortune. This is going 42 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:13,560 to be a Golden Ale with toasted sesame and vanilla and I guess on the 43 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,480 can. It's gonna have a QR code that you could scan for a virtual 44 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:25,079 fortune cookie. New Whistle out of Lombard is going to start making pizza at 45 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,319 their grouphub. They posted a picture on social media of this ginormous stand mixer, 46 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:35,720 so that should be cool. Chicago Cider Week is coming up. That's 47 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,759 going to start on January twenty eighth and run to February third. Lot of 48 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:48,199 cool events all over the city. Check out Chicagosiderweek dot org. And finally, 49 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Haymarket is thirteen years old. They're going to be thirteen years old on 50 00:04:55,079 --> 00:04:59,240 the twelfth, so you could check out Haymarket if you want. They have 51 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,160 a four pack. They're bringing back a couple of old school beers. So 52 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:15,160 check out Haymarket and Happy birthday. Hey. This is Grabbing the Brisket podcast. 53 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,399 Join us every Monday where we talk about the latest trends in barbecue, 54 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:24,079 interviews with world top pitmasters, celebrity cooks ooh like we Man from Jackass, 55 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,879 and musicians like rich Osool So check us out. We do beer reviews, 56 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,639 barbecue fails, so many fires do a lot of people just burn their houses 57 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:33,759 down for no reason. We also talk about cocaine, hippos versus Desgators, 58 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:38,560 learn how to make some tailgate gravy, altercations with Texas Rangers. People throw 59 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,000 on recents peanut butter cups. Yeah, So check out Grab the brisket dot 60 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,800 com for podcast info, viral social media post and so much more. All 61 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,519 Right, I'm happy to be talking to Karen she and today. You may 62 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:55,040 know her as All the Beer More Beer on social media. Karen is a 63 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Chicago based digital creator and you could find her all over Chicago land enjoying a 64 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:05,000 great local brewery. Karen, thanks so much for talking today. Thanks Stave 65 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:09,759 for having me on the show. I really appreciate it. Before we get 66 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,720 started, can you tell people a little bit about yourself. Yeah, I 67 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:18,160 grew up in the suburbs and I went to college at u of I and 68 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:24,120 when I got back, I've been living in Chicago, the city ever since 69 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:30,560 then. And I'm a teacher. I teach special aed on at a school, 70 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,800 a high school on the North Side, and that's about it. I 71 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:39,759 live in Portage Park, which is by Irving and Cicero. Actually, I 72 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,800 partially grew up in that area. My parents divorced and my dad lived at 73 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:48,199 six Corners, so yeah, I'm quite familiar with the area. My parents 74 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,879 there used to be a Giant Seer is there a Flagship store? And that's 75 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:56,439 where my parents met. Oh really, Oh that's cool. Yeah, now, 76 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,000 God knows what they're putting up with it? I know who is it? 77 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,839 The graffiti artist, mister Fungi must be upset that they took away as 78 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,160 graffiti. Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing until I saw it 79 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:11,519 pop up in a number of places and I was like, okay, yeah, 80 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,319 okay, am I who knew there was a mister Fungi out there. 81 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,600 He's a fun guy, Yes, fun guy. Do you remember the first 82 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,360 craft beer you had where you said, oh, yeah, yeah, this 83 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,759 is it, this is what I want to be doing. Oh that's a 84 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:35,720 great question, I know, and so I this may lead into other questions, 85 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:43,560 but I remember specifically trying a Sierra Nevada ipa and being like just spitting 86 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 it out, like being like, what is this? This tastes awful? 87 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,120 What is that fleavor? What is that taste? And that must have been 88 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:57,120 in like the early two thousands. I was a hacker shore wheat girl, 89 00:07:57,439 --> 00:08:00,800 like there was I wouldn't drink anything. If I went to drink beer, 90 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,759 I would look on the menu to see what they had in a wheat and 91 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:09,079 that's what I would get, which is probably either yeah, Hawker Shore or 92 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,199 Blue Moon at that time. Really exactly, I remember drinking a lot of 93 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,959 like three one two Frae Goose Island. I don't consider that craft beer, 94 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,279 but that's probably like I drink a lot of that back in the day. 95 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:26,000 Like now, you know this is going to come out in January, So 96 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,600 now in twenty twenty four, do you have a go to beer style? 97 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:37,360 Sure? I probably lean more toward hazy's if if that, you know, 98 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,559 if I'm just gonna enjoy something, it's probably going to be in New England 99 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,960 or you know, just something that they call hazy. But in the winter 100 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,559 it's stouts and porters. I'm really kind of getting into laggers now. So 101 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:56,919 yeah, is that chained? It's like so much cause you mentioned you started 102 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,399 out with wheat. What other styles are you into? Yeah? So I 103 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:09,840 think my beer renaissance happened when I got together with my partner. We got 104 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:15,600 together about twelve years ago, and at that time she was drinking she andyes 105 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,399 like Line and Google Summer Shandy. That was a the beer that she drank. 106 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:26,360 Otherwise she was like a jack and coke person. And we really liked 107 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:33,120 cider. So we went to like Virtue Cider which before it was bought by 108 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:37,840 IMBV, and we went to Vandermill and Grand Rapids, and we went to 109 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,240 this little outfit in Burlington, Wisconsin called Apple True, and I think it 110 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,200 was it was doing that process of just drinking a lot of cider and being 111 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:52,200 able to kind of like, this tastes this way on my tongue, this 112 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,279 tastes I get, I'm getting flavors on the nose, I'm getting flavors on 113 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,279 the front of the tongue, in the back of the tongue, and just 114 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,320 developing a palette that way. So I think that that kind of paved the 115 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:09,519 way for me to just want to try everything. I when I go out 116 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:13,840 still, I will get a flight and generally i'll get the styles that I 117 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:20,799 think are going to be palatable for me. But I will try anything. 118 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:26,399 And you know, five months of anything is golden, you know. Looking 119 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:31,240 at your Instagram, I see you were at Point at one time. Did 120 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,120 you try the Cider Boys stuff there? So that was many years ago. 121 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,279 I have tried Cider Boys, but I'm not I don't I don't recall specifically 122 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,600 at Point okay, but at the time we were up there, I was 123 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:56,080 really into oh soo brewing haw Yeah. So so really we went to Point 124 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,360 to it, you know, to the end was ohso, and there is 125 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,799 and there is us and we have there's a picture on the Instagram and it's 126 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:09,879 us and we have like twenty four beers in front of us, because that's 127 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,279 like just we tried every single one of them. Yeah. Also, it 128 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,399 is a great spot, and I thought the food there was phenomenal. Yeah. 129 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:24,120 I mean we're going years back now and we went to point because we 130 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,200 were traveling to like northern Wisconsin. But like we make it a point now 131 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,240 to if we hear of a brewery then we will make our way there. 132 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,399 I feel like we've done a pretty good job throughout the Midwest. Yeah. 133 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,759 Yeah, I'm trying to remember what I had it Ohso, but it was 134 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,639 one of probably the best meals I've had at a brewery. And I wasn't 135 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,120 expecting much. You know, usually you go to a brewery and it's like, 136 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,600 all right, you're gonna have bar food or you know, what have 137 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:56,399 you. But I had something I think it was like a beer brace port 138 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,120 shop or something like that that was absolutely phenomenal. But yeah, Ohso is 139 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:05,080 a great spot. Yeah. Again, I haven't been there in many years, 140 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,360 and I don't know if we ate there. Well, next time you 141 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:11,240 go, you're gonna have to brand the board chat if I'm ever up that 142 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:16,679 way again. It's kind of out of the way. How he has the 143 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,679 beer scene changed in the time that you've been a part of it. It's 144 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:28,480 just the sheer volume has It's just it's intense. There's so many, there's 145 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:33,039 so many breweries everywhere you go. And recently I got my hands on the 146 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,759 latest Illinois Brewing magazine from the fall, and they do a lovely job of 147 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:46,399 like categorizing all the beer by location in the Chicago area, and they list 148 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,679 just every brewery and I was going through and I'm like, okay, I'm 149 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,600 gonna mark the ones that I haven't been to, and there are very few 150 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,879 in Chicago, but there are so many in the suburbs. And I think 151 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:05,320 that that expansion and in the burbs has really been the something that's really changed. 152 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,000 It's just like you can't even keep up. Back in the day, 153 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:11,840 you could go to your five breweries and be like, all right, I've 154 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,279 you know. And one of the things that I really used to love about 155 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,279 the past is that you just got to know those breweries so well, like 156 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,720 you knew all of their flagship beers. You knew all of the beers. 157 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,159 When you went there and you tried something new, you remembered it and you're 158 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,440 like, oh, yeah, let's go back, let's try that again. 159 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:37,080 And now it's like, unless a brewery is doing something is incredibly special, 160 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:41,720 it's hard to even keep track. I mean, that's just basically what I 161 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,360 do. That's my purpose in this game is to just keep brack of the 162 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:50,559 beer. But it's really hard. Like I'm going through here and I'm like, 163 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,480 hey, I haven't been to any of these breweries, and b I've 164 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:58,200 been to some of these breweries and I can't remember anything, you know, 165 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,000 off the top of my hat about them. Yeah, there's just so many. 166 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:09,840 It's like practically every neighborhood now has their own local brewery, and every 167 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:13,440 suburb like you mentioned. I know, last week I had to go to 168 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,039 Naperville and it's like, look at all these I'm looking at Google when I'm 169 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:22,519 there, like breweries near me. I'm like, yeah, so what. 170 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,200 And it used to be Solemn Oath and it was like all right, I'm 171 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,320 going to Solemn Oath. And now it's like you go to and and they're 172 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,240 just further and further away, like like Batavia. Not as a drive man, 173 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,720 I really like to go out there and drink all the beer, but 174 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:41,840 then you're trying to drive home exactly, you're kind of suck with like going 175 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:48,480 to maybe your top three. Do you feel breweries tap rooms are they more 176 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,480 welcoming now towards women and people of color from like the time you first started 177 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:03,840 going to breweries. Yeah, I think that I don't really notice in terms 178 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,679 of like, well, I'm a woman and therefore I'm different, but I 179 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:13,399 goice, I'm also queer. My partner is a woman, So I notice 180 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:20,000 that there's definitely more breweries that have like a flagsticker, like a Pride flagsticker, 181 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:26,399 like the progressive flagsticker in it. That really warms my heart. I 182 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,279 think that as a woman, I still I really like to talk about beer. 183 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,679 So if I'm at a brewery and I try to chat up the people 184 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,679 behind the bar, like they're super willing to like chat with me, I 185 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:43,200 just think it's because you know, we like beer. But as a member 186 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,320 of the LGBTQ community, like that has become much more like welcoming, I 187 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:56,240 think, and just like advertising their welcomeness, like I've never actually gone into 188 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:58,399 a brewery and been like Ooh, let's get out of here, but like 189 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:04,840 advertise it in a way that's like, yes, we want people of all 190 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:08,399 sorts to come in here, and it kind of sends a message to people 191 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:14,559 other people who might you know, want to go there and don't want it 192 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:18,159 kind of keeps off of the riff raff, I guess, keeps out the 193 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,919 bearded guys like me. No, no, not at all. I just 194 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:27,879 think that if a brewery is going to advertise that they are open to the 195 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,440 LGBTQ community, you know, like that just means that the beer world itself 196 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:44,799 is more accepting. Yeah, and I love going to breweries where there's a 197 00:16:44,919 --> 00:16:48,960 variety of people that one don't all look like me, which is how it 198 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,159 was when I first started drinking. I remember, like I went with my 199 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,840 wife, who's Mexican American, and we went to Temperance I think it was 200 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:06,519 an Evanston and there was just this wide variety of people African American, Hispanic 201 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,319 gay community. I'm like, this is really cool, and that was like 202 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,519 one of the best times we had because it was such a wide variety of 203 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,839 people there just all you know, shooting the breeze with each other enjoying a 204 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,400 beer. That was one of the best times we've had. Yeah, I 205 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:30,319 do think that it is still dominated by white people or white appearing people. 206 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:37,160 So when breweries like Funky Town and Moore come into existence, like I think 207 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,440 and I know that, there's a lot of groups on Instagram. I can 208 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,599 think of like five off the top of my head that are just like we 209 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:52,279 want to showcase more women and minorities in brewing and things like that, and 210 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,440 I think that's great. I would really like to see even more representation, 211 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:03,480 especially for people of color. I don't think I don't think that is happening 212 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:07,480 quickly enough a few years. When you think of like who's opening breweries, 213 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:11,119 there's definitely a type. You can picture them and that stereotype is true. 214 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:17,680 Like it's just it just is so. Yeah. You mentioned earlier that you 215 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,799 were a flight person when you go to a brewery or attack room, and 216 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,720 I was there was one of the questions I was going to ask you going 217 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:30,720 through your feed, why the flight instead of just having the regular ber, 218 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:34,880 Are you ever afraid of like the first one you have in the flight or 219 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,440 the second you wish? Oh, I wish I had a full pint of 220 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:44,839 this, but now I have to commit to these others. No, I 221 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:48,960 I it's just something that my partner and I do. We usually even share 222 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,440 a flight so that if we want to get a pint later, we will, 223 00:18:55,759 --> 00:19:02,200 all right, So the flight means that I can try everything. I 224 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,519 think that's kind of annoying for servers sometimes. But I do not understand you 225 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:12,960 can charge breweries. There's some like marketing thing like you can charge so much 226 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,200 for a flight, and people will do it. They want to try everything, 227 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,880 they're interested, and when breweries don't have have a flight option, it 228 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:26,839 just boggles my mind. Why would you not capitalize on that? I think 229 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:33,720 that And now there's even like fewer flight boards like oh you can get five 230 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:36,599 ons pores, but they're going to cost you four or five dollars to each. 231 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:38,920 I will do it. I will just you know, I will get 232 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,359 sixty dollars worth of beer just to try them all. Yeah, I think 233 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,359 that's for me where I'm not on team flight, I think I am. 234 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,559 I'm afraid the first one I have, which usually you go from light to 235 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:57,680 darker, lower alcohol to the higher alcohol, I'm gonna want this and all 236 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,279 of a sudden, and I've already two beers worth of flight, so I'm 237 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:06,559 not going to be able to enjoy it. Yeah, no, I not 238 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,000 at all. Like even at Hot Butcher that all their beers kind of taste 239 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,000 the same, right, you get like one double and you've tried all of 240 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:18,559 them. But I like to I like to pick out the differences. I 241 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:22,640 think that I have a established enough palette where I can say, like, 242 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:29,599 oh, I want this beer more than I want that beer, and sometimes 243 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,039 there's just a huge variety and I just end up having another flight so that 244 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,039 I can. I definitely do not need to drink a pint. It's almost 245 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:44,400 like too much beer sometimes. Like I really like so Old Irving is one 246 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,200 of my favorite breweries, someone that's really closest to my house, and they 247 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:52,920 offer like a five once and a ten ounce option for a lot of things, 248 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,319 and I like that. I think that that's a great idea, especially 249 00:20:56,319 --> 00:20:59,200 if you can charge people and they're going to pay for it. Yeah. 250 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,160 I think the one place I don't know if they even still do it Short 251 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,039 Fuse when they opened up. I mean this was pre pandemic where a lot 252 00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:12,160 of breweries had grouponds and all of that, But you'd go to short Fuse 253 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,799 for a flight, they would give you eight Yeah, I think they were 254 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,200 five ounce pores. And I'm like, I'm gonna be hammered if I finished 255 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:26,279 this, so I can't enjoy one of them. Does your wife like beer? 256 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,279 You need to get her into the uh in the into beer because that's 257 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,319 like the I know that if I go and have a beer with my partner 258 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,200 that we'll be able to drink whatever we put. Whatever is put in front 259 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,759 of us, and we don't have her waist beer, we'll drink it no 260 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:47,960 matter what. Yeah, she's more. She doesn't like hoppy beers. She'll 261 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:53,640 like like old school laggers or like a goza, but typical like ip eight 262 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,319 beers or stouts. No, she wants nothing to do with it right right. 263 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,400 We got to develop her palate so that you have a beer drinking partner 264 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,359 there. I know she's home in San Diego right now. It's like, 265 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,720 can you bring me back something? And you know she's not even stopping anywhere. 266 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Oh wow, Yeah, San Diego's got a lot. Yeah, I 267 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,680 mean you mentioned older ving. Do you have a favorite tap room in the 268 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,960 area, and if so, why does that one stand out to you. 269 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:32,440 My favorite tap room in the area is eliminated Brewer Brewworks Northwest Highway. There. 270 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:37,759 First of all, their beers are super solid. They're really good. 271 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:45,960 I really enjoy a smoothie sour and not gonna lie. And they do a 272 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,519 fantastic they it's not even a beer, they do a fantastic version of a 273 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:56,720 smoothie seltzer and so I it's just it feels like when you go there, 274 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:04,079 you're walking into bizarro world. It's like another universe, and it's it's so 275 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:14,279 strange. There's always like some random like Gore erotica movie playing on the TV. 276 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:22,319 It's very very like. And they're bartender. The one who has been 277 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,160 the most stalwart bartender in terms of when I go there is this man named 278 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,640 Rob and he's great. And the beer, the ambiance, the gore, 279 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,880 it's all all, you know it, It's like a picture of craziness. 280 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,160 And I think that the people who go there are the beer drinkers themselves are 281 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,960 also just really into the whole thing. Okay, and you can have dogs 282 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,279 even better. I've never been to their tamproom. I had there. I 283 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,279 picked it up some of their stuff at Bottles and canned. Are they in 284 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:57,880 you said Northwest Satmary? Are they in park Ridge? No, They're in 285 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,119 Chicago. It's okay, way way out Addison Park, all right, and 286 00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,720 it's come a long way. It used to be kind of just dark and 287 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:18,920 like dingy and now and they're also really super open and welcoming. There's like 288 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,200 a Pride flag and I don't know. I think that it's maybe not for 289 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:27,279 everybody, but I've never not loved every time I go there. Yeah, 290 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:32,319 I'm gonna have to. One of my doctors for my back is in park 291 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,559 Bridge on Northwest Highway, so I'm going to just have to take Northwest Highway 292 00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:38,720 all the way and check that out next time I go for an appointment. 293 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,960 Yeah, they're they're. One of their flagships is a logger called Trust And 294 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:52,160 even if you're not interested in anything else, Trust will always always, you 295 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,960 know, be there and will be something that you you'll enjoy drinking cool. 296 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:04,640 What tamp room, in your opinion has the best food. I have been 297 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:11,160 to many tap rooms. I really like Old Irving. I think that they 298 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,880 have really good food. More Brewing out in Phillip Park has really nice food. 299 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:23,640 I'm trying to think. I you know even if I'm doing a brewery 300 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:30,960 crawl, which is mymo I don't know. I haven't there's no stand out 301 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:36,240 to me food like you were talking about oh so like I if I ate 302 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:41,039 there, I don't remember it. So now I like Old Irving a lot. 303 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,079 Like they're cheese curds. I think every time I go, Yeah, 304 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,480 I have to get in order where the cheese curds are. They also have 305 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:52,039 this really delicious key lime pie. Okay, it's very tart, which I 306 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:57,920 really enjoy. You mentioned ciders earlier. Are there any other types of alcoholic 307 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,559 bever? Does you enjoy all? I mean, I don't have a I 308 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:11,559 like all types of like liquor and liqueurs and wines. I just I don't 309 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,480 have a palette for those types of things. So like I can drink a 310 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,440 crappy wine and be like this is delightful, or I can, you know, 311 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:25,759 So, I don't know. I think that I prefer beer, but 312 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:30,640 sometimes I really want a cocktail and I'll drink. I'll drink whatever is put 313 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,960 in front of me. I see you have a can of something there. 314 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,519 What are you drinking now? So when we first were talking about you know 315 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:45,359 this and having our the timing of our recording year, I was like, 316 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,480 well, do I really want a beer that early? I could? You 317 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,799 know, I get it. I'm on vacation too. I can have a 318 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:56,440 beer, but I'm not. I'm drinking the Revolution Brewing Super zero. It's 319 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:03,839 a starting hop water, so it's it tastes like beer. Yeah, but 320 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,680 I'm not getting drunk, and I'm also getting my my you can hear my 321 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:14,519 voice. I've been having some laryngeal issues and this is keeping me hydrated. 322 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,920 So when I like the hop waters a lot, I know, uh locally, 323 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Noon Whistle has a really good one as well. I will have to 324 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,519 check that out. I tried the hop Water brand, yeah, and I 325 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,160 don't like that. I felt that I really liked just playing Seltzer water, 326 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,960 and I thought that the hop Water brand tasted just like Seltzer water. Why 327 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,319 yeah, I mean for the price with that, Like I didn't get as 328 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,400 much hops. It was just hey, drinking a Lacroix. I'll just spend 329 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,279 the money on the Lacroix and say five bucks a twelve back up. Yeah, 330 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:53,599 So this is like, this is super hoppy. It's not like overly 331 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,279 bitter or anything, but it's it's good. I highly recommend it. I'm 332 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:03,079 gonna put un Whistle on my list because I would like to try that. 333 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,799 Yeah. I think they're even coming out with a few varieties now, but 334 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,480 they just had one. It was a light blue can, beautiful artwork, 335 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:17,960 big hop on it, sixteen ounce cans. But like of all the ones 336 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,759 that I had, I would have to say that one was my favorite. 337 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Yeah, okay, big blue can, got it. Yeah. On one 338 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,519 of your posts, you had a thing at Omega Yeast that that's a really 339 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,319 cool place. What can you tell people about that experience? Well, in 340 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:40,880 Chicago there is a long running women's spear drinking club called Barley's Angels, and 341 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,839 I had never It's one of those things that I've learned about pre pandemic, 342 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,279 and then throughout the pandemic, I just obviously wasn't going anywhere, and then 343 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,920 I saw a bunch of activities that they were doing that I really wanted to 344 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,119 do and just didn't, and I was like, well, how can I 345 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,000 pass up? It's like I go to these breweries anyway, so you know, 346 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,920 do I I there's that kind of like do I want to meet this 347 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:10,319 like big group of women go to a brewery? Like maybe drink too much, 348 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,480 maybe have a little too much fun and then end up making a fool 349 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:17,039 of myself. No, but at Omega, I was like, I can't 350 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:22,519 pass this opportunity up right, how do you? It's super close to my 351 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,400 house and it's also just like I don't know when I will have access like 352 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,519 this. So I did meet up with those ladies and it was fantastic. 353 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,519 They had basically we had a tour and we got to see I was like 354 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:42,039 very surprised. We were like walking around wild Yeast. We were we were 355 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,200 not masked, we were just like walking, We're on the facility. We 356 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:52,519 saw all of their like labs where they're actually creating yeast and different things, 357 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:57,200 and we saw all of their production line, and then we saw like a 358 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,759 refrigerator where there they are like fermenting yeasts and like just storing them for different 359 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:12,319 breweries around. And I thought it was super interesting because basically the people who 360 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,559 started it were these two lawyers who were like, how can we a be 361 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:23,160 lawyers still but make money in beer? And we can't open a tap room 362 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,039 because there's no money in that. So they decided to start this yeast company, 363 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,920 and you know that's some privilege right there. Yeah. I mean I 364 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,240 went there and I did the tour a couple of years ago because I talked 365 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,039 to one of the owners and that was like such a cool time. I'm 366 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,359 like the geek in me was like flipping out. I'm like, oh, 367 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,599 this is so cool, right. I am like not interested in a brewery 368 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,039 tour, like I've been there, you know, Like I remember doing this 369 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,720 Sprecker Brewery tour in Milwaukee like twenty years ago, and it was awesome, 370 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,440 and I was like, for you learn and for the first time about like 371 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,640 hops and like Barnie and whatever or malt, and I'm just over brewery tours. 372 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,920 There's there's not much to it for me. But the yeast tour was 373 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:19,440 really cool. And then the ladies also brought a number of Octoberfest beers that 374 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,839 that we tried. You know, normally they're at a brewery, but they 375 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:29,640 applied us with Octoberfest and fast beers and it was super fun. I definitely 376 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,799 am looking forward to meeting up with those ladies again in the future. On 377 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:41,680 your bio, you call yourself an enthusiast or a beer enthusiast, which I 378 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,960 consider myself. It was weird a couple of weeks ago, I was talking 379 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,319 with a friend of mine about the same thing, and what, in your 380 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:59,799 opinion is a difference between an enthusiast and an influencer. Well, I was 381 00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:06,359 just speak from my experience, because I don't have any other experience but my 382 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,480 Instagram. I started it because I took a lot of photos of beer's it 383 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,359 just in my past, and I was like, you know what, I'm 384 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,279 just going to start an Instagram where I'm going to have this archive and I'm 385 00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:24,119 going to revisit this archive. And then because I met my partner in twenty 386 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,680 twelve, and I think that was when like the year things changed for me. 387 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:35,720 So I decided to just post and every three days I would post a 388 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,680 from the archive. And by the time I got done with my archive, 389 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,640 I had over three thousand followers, and I was like, well, this 390 00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:52,440 is fun and I want to keep doing this. And so I kind of 391 00:32:52,480 --> 00:33:00,599 shifted my mindset from somebody who just loved beer was a beer enthusiast to the 392 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:07,759 possibility of being more of an influencer. And honestly, I'm kind of straddling 393 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:13,599 that line right now. I spend so much time on my Instagram and that 394 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,839 is when it grew, and right now it is like kind of just stagnant 395 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,519 because I don't spend the time. If you want to be an influencer, 396 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:28,799 if you want the followers, then you need to spend all of your time, 397 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,359 all of your time doing it, and I just I don't have the 398 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,960 time. I kind of stopped having the interests a little bit. But I've 399 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,680 also noticed that because I'm not posting every three days, like I don't have 400 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,559 a regularity. When I don't do it, I miss it. So I 401 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:53,359 like to create content. I like to think about it. I see so 402 00:33:53,440 --> 00:34:00,119 many people doing so many like really interesting things. So I don't consider myself 403 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:07,240 an influencer, but I do like to reap the rewards of having people notice 404 00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:13,119 that, like I'm there. A number of companies have reached out to me 405 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,360 and been like, will you showcase our beer? Will you drink our beer 406 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:21,480 and showcase our beer? Will you use our product and showcase our product? 407 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:25,000 And yes, absolutely, and I want to. I think that that is 408 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:32,440 what makes it a community. So enthusiasm can lead to influencer. But if 409 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,480 you want to be an influencer, it has to be like your full time 410 00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:39,360 job. There's really just no in between, and I am in between, 411 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:45,320 so I know, yeah, like there's just no way I could commit the 412 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,679 time to do that. And I don't even know if I could, Like 413 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,320 right now, I'm so off with my back. I have all the time 414 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,480 in the world. It's like, I don't know if I want to to 415 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:02,000 be honest with you right right And I you know, I think you have 416 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,320 this niche with the podcasting, and I think that that's super fun. I 417 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:14,840 didn't expect any anything, And I think that you you have to do it 418 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:21,320 for the love of beer and the love of talking to people and meeting people 419 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320 and not have any expectations. Like I think that if I were in your 420 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:30,320 shoes, I would be more disappointed that I didn't have more followers because you 421 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,559 put so much effort into it. Anyway, So I actually don't know how 422 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,400 many followers you have, but if I didn't, if I did not that 423 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,920 many, if I put a lot of effort into it, I would expect 424 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:50,440 to reap the rewards, and I have, you know, I have aspirations. 425 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,400 We'll see. I would love to get to a point where, uh, 426 00:35:54,639 --> 00:36:00,159 you know, people send me things all the time. Yeah, but 427 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,519 I'm not going to put all. I'm not going to put the time into 428 00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,119 it. I do have a full time job and a full time life, 429 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:10,519 and I I'll have to send you a glass or something. Oh yeah, 430 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:14,559 for sure, absolutely. I mean I pay for that stuff too, I 431 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,920 would. So yes, if anybody's listening to this and you want me to 432 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,440 promote you, I absolutely will, and I will pay for it too. 433 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,559 I will. Yeah, I want to do that. Like now that I 434 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,360 have like a bit of a following, then if people are going to see 435 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,039 your product, like, I want to be able to help people that way. 436 00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,599 I think it's Oh yeah, before I let you go, do you 437 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,599 have a of all your favorite breweries in the Chicago Land area. I mean 438 00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:50,079 we'll go suburbs as well. What would be in your mixed pack, your 439 00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:55,920 Chicago Land mixed back. Well, you kind of gave me this question before 440 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:02,079 we started, So I actually design mixed packs. I designed a Chicago mixed 441 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:07,760 pack, and I designed a I designed a suburban mixed pack. The Chicago 442 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:14,239 mixed pack is more, you know, is a little bit more, has 443 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,960 a little bit more ooth. So this is what I would include. I 444 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:27,440 would include illuminated Trust lagger, I would include old Irving Breweries Beezer, which 445 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,960 is a hazy IPA. I also really really like their Life's Blood, which 446 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:37,639 is a dark lagger, and that would add if I swap out the Life's 447 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,440 Blood for the Beezer, that would add a little bit more diversity versatility to 448 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:45,039 it. I would put in Maplewood's Fat Pug, which is an ohmeal stout. 449 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:51,760 Depending on if we consider solemn Olf well, I guess we would put 450 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:59,159 in solemn Olfs Still Life, Snaggletooth Bandana which is an IPA, Revolutions Eugene 451 00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:06,079 Porter or sun Crusher, which is a happy wheat, Pipeworks Pipe Works Ninja 452 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:12,719 Versus Unicorns, which is a double IPA off Colors Dinosaurs which is an Imperial 453 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,599 spot, and marsh Mars Breweries over Hays, which is a New England I 454 00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:22,559 pa, okay, and maybe if we're you know, being saucy, we 455 00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:27,760 could add Blush, which is a site by Airis. Yes, Paul, 456 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,440 Yeah, Airis puts out. I love the Eiris and right b they make 457 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,519 some great you know locally. I'm a big fan of both of theirs. 458 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,440 Yes, and I haven't been to Second City Meady. I'm not like a 459 00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:45,920 huge meat fan, but I think that if I really consider myself a true 460 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,800 Chicago brewery and enthusiast, I gotta get to every single brewery in the In 461 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:59,000 this Illinois Brewing magazine there are fifty six a list of fifty six Chicago breweries. 462 00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:04,440 I haven't been to seven of them, so I'm pretty pretty well traveled 463 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,840 around the in the city proper. And then if I were doing a suburban 464 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:16,719 mixed pack, I would absolutely include more. Yeah, bring microphone, Alter, 465 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,599 Noon Whistle, Phase three. If you haven't been to the new Phase 466 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,159 three in Elmhurst, it's it's a go, like you have to get there. 467 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:35,360 Sketchbook or not a which is in Niles, and Energy City, which 468 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,599 is known for their smoothie sours and it's just one of my faves. So 469 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,599 I did not have any styles that I picked for the suburban mixed pack, 470 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,119 but those are the breweries I would include. Yeah, I haven't had a 471 00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,159 lot of Energy City, but the couple that I've had I really like, 472 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:58,760 so I want to do like more research on them. And also I think 473 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,719 the second City Meter he was really good. I talked to the owner over 474 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,599 the summer and like I sat there and like talked to him that's a really 475 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,440 cool little spot that's not far from you. The meads I thought were really 476 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,760 good, so I bought a bottle to take home. This was I think 477 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,440 in the summertime, so they had one. It was like a Coconuty thing 478 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,760 going on that was like a tropical that was really good. But yeah, 479 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,480 definitely I would hit you know, Second City Metery, but yeah, I 480 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:35,400 think they're only open Thursday through Sunday. Yeah, a lot of breweries have 481 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:39,840 weird hours. Like we happen to get to Junior for Menta down in the 482 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,719 South Loop and it was like, oh, we're here in the one hour 483 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,840 that they're open every week. Yeah. I think I've tried Second City Metery 484 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:53,360 at a couple of roof ESTs that I've been to, Yeah, but I 485 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,800 haven't actually been to their location. Yeah. That was the same with me. 486 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880 I think at Friday Night flight I had their stuff. I'm like, 487 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,400 oh, wow, these are really good and I just happen to dry down 488 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:09,559 past them all the time on Elston and I love their logo, so I'm 489 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,920 like, oh, I need to reach out and see if I could talk 490 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,119 to these people. But yeah, really good stuff there. Okay, awesome, 491 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,360 Yeah, I will I will give it a try. There are there 492 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,039 are a few more. They're all and that that I haven't been to. 493 00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:30,440 They're all in that Broadway corridor like dry Hop. Yeah, I don't even 494 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,440 know. There's some there's some other ones corridor provisions or I don't know. 495 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,639 And then the ones downtown, I haven't been there, and I have not 496 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:44,679 been to the new there's that one that opened in that theater. Oh yeah 497 00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,199 talking about Yeah, that one looks really good too. I have not been. 498 00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:54,199 Yeah, I'm really excited to see some of these actually, but you 499 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,559 know, how often do you go downtown and who wants to spend time in 500 00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:02,679 that Broadway corridors? Like yeah, it's parkings that It's been a couple of 501 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,519 years since I've been to Dry Up, And I know when they started, 502 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,840 and this was a long time ago, they would have a deal where you 503 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,119 could get a full growler for six bucks on Saturdays only. So I had 504 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:21,079 to fight the Broadway traffic, you know, pay a ton of money to 505 00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,119 park just to save a couple bucks on a growler. But I did it. 506 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:30,119 Yeah, yeah, no, that sounds fun. There's just a few 507 00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:34,599 that I just you know, never have access to. So yeah, well 508 00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,559 Karen, I appreciate so much you coming on. Nice to meet you via 509 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:44,559 a screen instead of Instagram. Can you tell people where they could find you? 510 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:51,960 Yeah, so I physically am at a Chicago brewery. You can find 511 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,360 me there, probably illuminated and on the internet. I'm at All the Beer 512 00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:04,760 Underscore more Beer on Instagram. That is also my handle for untapped, and 513 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:13,239 that is also my email Karen at Allthebeermorebeer dot com know underscore. Yeah, 514 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,199 thank you so much, Dave. This has been so much fun. Yeah 515 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,440 awesome. I will see you down the road, and I'll include the links 516 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,719 in the show notes, So if you're driving listening to this, just hit 517 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,119 the show notes and then you can find out where to reach Karen. Karen, 518 00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,719 thanks you again. I will talk to you down the road, all 519 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:38,360 right, take care, Thanks so much. All right. I want to 520 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,679 thank again Karen Sheen for coming on and talking about herself. That was a 521 00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:47,000 lot of fun. Thank you again, Karen. The beer that I'm going 522 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:51,159 to have now, the beer that's in front of me, I wanted to 523 00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:55,440 have one that we talked about on the show, and we recorded this on 524 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,199 the twenty seventh of December. So as I'm according to this. It's still 525 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:07,360 wet December, so I'm having Ninja Versus Unicorn. This is a double ipa 526 00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:12,800 from Pipeworks. This checks in at eight percent. It's been around a while. 527 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,960 I don't know, maybe nine years, eight years, ten yures, 528 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,079 somewhere around there. It's been that it's no Johnny Come lately. Ninja Versus 529 00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:27,159 Unicorn has been around for a while. It's a classic double ipa, so 530 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:36,760 let's bust open the Ninja versus Unicorn. Really nice color. It's not a 531 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:44,000 hazy so it's a nice clear color. Good amber. The foam is good. 532 00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,519 You get a good couple of fingers of foam. Smells really good. 533 00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:51,800 I don't think I've had this one in a year or so. It's been 534 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:58,400 a while, so now it smells fantastic. Yeah, that's good. Get 535 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,559 the hops are there, almost getting some like melon with the hops, it's 536 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,480 balanced with the sweetness of the malt. I think this is really good. 537 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,880 I'm a big fan of this, and I'll have to come February drink some 538 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,599 more of these, because it's been a while. Trying to look on a 539 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:21,199 candacy. When this was canned by and this is pretty fresh. So this 540 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,000 was cannoned on the eleventh of December. I picked it up at my grocery 541 00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:30,440 store, Mariano's, after I talked to Karen. It's a really good beer. 542 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:35,079 So if you're in the Chicago Land area, check out Pipeworks. If 543 00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:38,920 you go to their website, it's pretty sparse, but they do distribute to 544 00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:44,559 other states besides Illinois, so you could check that out and see if it's 545 00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:50,039 available near you. They had maybe ten fifteen different states that you could pick 546 00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:55,639 up Pipeworks at, So this is probably their most popular one, the one 547 00:45:55,679 --> 00:46:01,599 that I see most of. So if you're around you haven't had Ninja Versus 548 00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:05,199 Unicorn in a while, by all means, throw this one in the cart. 549 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:15,119 I think it's really good. Oh it's been a while, but here 550 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:22,760 is your jag off of the week. A woman in Tampa, Florida. 551 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:30,960 She's pursuing a class action lawsuit against the Hershey Company. She's saying they were 552 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:38,039 misleading in the packaging of the rece's peanut butter pumpkins. Now. The woman's 553 00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:43,960 name is Cynthia Kelly. She says she bought a pack for four dollars and 554 00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:51,119 forty nine cents at Aldie, but she was upset that the actual product did 555 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:57,360 not resemble the image on the packaging. Now, I guess the packaging had 556 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,679 like the eyes, nose, and mouth on a jackal lantern, but when 557 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:07,880 she opened up the package, it was just a regular peanut butter cup shaped 558 00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:15,000 like a pumpkin. She was very upset, saying that this is materially misleading 559 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:27,519 and claiming that numerous consumers were tricked hats. There were redded complaints that reces 560 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,840 lied to me and it's just absurd. But here's the best part. She 561 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,960 says she wouldn't have purchased the pumpkins if she knew they did not have the 562 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:44,360 detailed carvings of the mouth and eyes that was on the label. Eh, 563 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:53,039 she's suing for five million dollars over a four dollars and forty nine cent pack 564 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,760 of peanut buttered pumpkins. One you went to fucking Aldy. Aldy not only 565 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,039 will give you your money back, they'll also replace the product. So, 566 00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:12,519 Cynthia Cindy Tutz, listen, you could have had two packages of these for 567 00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:21,079 free, but now you're suing for five million dollars because the pumpkins didn't have 568 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:35,760 the Cynthia Kelly, you're a jag Off. All right, that's going to 569 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,800 wrap things up for this episode of Beer in Front. I thank you very 570 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:44,599 much for listening. I want to thank Karen Sheen from All the Beer More 571 00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:49,679 Beer again for coming on to talk this week. Have a great week everyone, 572 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,920 I will see you next week. And remember, sometimes the beer in 573 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,320 front of you is the best one yet