1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:13,400 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks, your source of information 2 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:17,199 and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Talk Off has a 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,359 step hit on. Stay lock. Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Nuno. Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. Ready to talk fantasy hockey is 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,119 fan Track's Zone. Jesse Severe, Wait a minute, that's me and over 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,840 there ep ringside Zone, Victor Nuno. Victor speak to the people. How 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,520 you doing. I'm doing great, Jesse. We're about to talk about the 8 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:49,039 team that contains your adopted son. Ready to check? Yeah, John, 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,520 we are. I'm feeling great, Victor. There's nothing, there's no better 10 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,320 feeling. I'm a little insulted. We're going to get to the interview and 11 00:00:56,759 --> 00:00:59,759 we take these players in order. And for some reason, Victor did not 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,319 at Brady Kuchuck first, but he did let me introduce Brady Kuchuk. So 13 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,480 I guess we're just going to call that a compromise. I wouldn't dare, 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,200 I wouldn't dare take him. You can't. I can't talk about your son 15 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:15,120 like that. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Oh, it's gonna 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,200 be good times. And if like me you're you're not going to get enough 17 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:23,599 Bradykachuck talk in the next hour. You could come to our discord. That's 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,000 another place you could talk Brady Kuchuck. We should just make a Brady Kuchuck 19 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,920 room there. Maybe it's just a general Kuchuck room and we could have subrooms 20 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,920 for Brady and Matt. I don't know, Victor. I'm thinking this through 21 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,879 on the fly, but people can talk about all kinds of hockey topics there. 22 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:42,560 It is a free discord that Victor and I curate. You just have 23 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,079 to hit us up or a link to pop in there, because that's how 24 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:49,799 discords work. Fantasy HOCKEYLFE at gmail dot com or at Fan Hockey Life on 25 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:56,120 X at Victor Nunio twelve on X Victor, why don't you tell some people 26 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,799 what they're doing in there in addition to just being awesome in talking hockey and 27 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,400 maybe even a little bit about some of the extras you've got for patrons. 28 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Yeah, a lot of great stuff over at Fantasy Hockey Life. One of 29 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,879 the best things you can get into the Tier Dynasty. We've talked about the 30 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:16,960 Tier Dynasty on the show, and it's one of the best leagues we're opening 31 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:20,919 up a new division, so we'll probably have about ten to fifteen spots, 32 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,400 so you want to secure your spot on that if you want to be in 33 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:25,439 there, climb your way up to the top. It's a really fun, 34 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,360 cool league that I highly recommend, and that's a patron perk. Other patron 35 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,680 perks are like the patron Cast, patroon Priority Channel, and other cool things 36 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,599 that are on the website. You can look at all kinds of tools there 37 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:44,599 that relate to prospect cards, my ranks and list for the prospects forwards, 38 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:51,360 goalie defense. You can also look at really cool things like which prospects are 39 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,360 maybe scoring a lot in certain leagues or hit a lot, or block a 40 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,560 lot or do different things. You can check all that out at Fantasyhockeylife dot 41 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:01,479 com if you're a patron member and one of the coolest things of the prospect 42 00:03:01,479 --> 00:03:05,919 cards, you can look at goalies forwards all of them, if they hit 43 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,759 a lot, if they block a lot, if they take a lot of 44 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:10,039 penalties, all that kind of stuff that's really hard to find. You can 45 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:15,319 find through patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey Life. We will be right back 46 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:27,199 talk Ottawa Senator welcoming into the show. A man who's gonna tell us about 47 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,879 those Ottawa Senators. It's Alex Adams of the Hockey News. How you doing, 48 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,280 Alex great, I'm really excited to be here talked to some senators hockey. 49 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,240 It's always fun to do that, and I'm excited to join the show. 50 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:44,439 We're darn glad to have you. The Senators, Oh boy, I 51 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:46,800 can't figure them out, and I'm hoping by the end of this conversation, 52 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:50,759 Alex, you will have filled me in and explained it to me. But 53 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:53,960 let's just lay out a couple of the facts that we can say about this 54 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,199 season, and I'll ask you about it. The Senators, of course, 55 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:02,039 started the the year very heavily in the news because the team was sold. 56 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,360 There was all sorts of optimism and happiness at that point, and not necessarily 57 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:12,520 Ryan reynolds'ism anymore, but there was at least happiness that somebody had bought the 58 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:15,960 team. There was high hopes. There was this young core. Really, 59 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,120 if you look at this young core, they're all coming into that age where 60 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,279 potentially they could have a breakthrough, and instead, there were a fair number 61 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:26,279 of injuries that took a bite out of the team. We'll get into some 62 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:29,439 of the players they lost, although there were some players that remained pretty healthy. 63 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,439 They're two hundred and eighty one goals allowed this year, tied for the 64 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:36,480 fourth or the fifth most in the NHL. That ain't good. They drew 65 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,439 the most power plays in the league, so they were on the power play 66 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:45,120 a lot, but the conversion rate was in the bottom ten and the penalty 67 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:47,800 kill was fourth worse. So special teams not so great. But the real 68 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:53,519 culprit might have been the same percentage that was tied for last in the NHL. 69 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:57,079 That's not going to get it done. How do you assess this season 70 00:04:57,079 --> 00:05:00,120 overall? And before we start getting too individual players. Are the Sins within 71 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,920 range maybe of a playoff year next year. That's a very loaded question here 72 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,560 in Ottawa as to whether the Sentence are in a contention window at least to 73 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,079 make the playoffs. I'd say, how would I assess it? It was 74 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:17,360 a failure. I think you can't really say anything more than that they should 75 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:21,040 have been better. The team on the ice, that and the players in 76 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:26,519 the dressing room were talented enough to be close to a playoff team at the 77 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,560 very least, and they fell way too flat. Players like Tim Stutslill had 78 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,279 a down year. Brady Kitchuck played well but still needs to be better defensively. 79 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:39,240 You alluded to the goaltending. If you have the worst say percentage in 80 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,480 the NHL, it's very hard to win a lot of games. So overall 81 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,720 the team really struggled to play defensive hockey, even with Jack Malta, who 82 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:53,439 replaced the outgoing DJ Smith, and overall there's going to be major changes. 83 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,920 I think this offseason in Ottawa and I think this team will look quite different 84 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:00,160 than they did last year, and for good reason. And when you consistently 85 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:05,759 underperform, there's maybe, unlike in Toronto, maybe you need to change things 86 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,680 up a little bit. So I think for the Senators they need to add 87 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,399 some veterans to a really young team that's trying to learn how to win on 88 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:17,319 the fly. I love it, and I love that you got a jab 89 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,680 in a Toronto already right off the top of outstanding. Let's talk about some 90 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,279 of the individual players. The forwards. Him Stouchlow. We're going to start 91 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,439 with him, and we might reference our Tier Dynasty, our Tidy ranks. 92 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,399 He was in the top one hundred but you would expect him to be much 93 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:36,480 closer to the top, and he was much further back. And partially that 94 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:41,800 was due to him scoring thirty nine goals with a seventeen percent shooting percentage in 95 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,439 the previous season, and this year he was less than half of the number 96 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,800 of goals with a shooting percentage, also about half he played the similar number 97 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,040 of games, He had similar ice times, power play time went down maybe 98 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,600 a little bit. Overall, it was a pretty significant step back from Tim 99 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Stouchel. A lot of people drafted him at the end of the first round 100 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,920 thinking he was going to be this perennial Pober game plus player, and he 101 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:08,199 had a good season, but it was slightly disappointing if that was your expectation. 102 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,519 I wonder what effect Travis Green will have on him. I've heard that 103 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,160 he likes to lean on his stars, and it didn't seem like Martin did 104 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:16,920 that quite as much with Stuttila. So, Alex, what do you think 105 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,879 we can expect from Stucilla next season? Will he be over under a point 106 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:25,000 per game pace? If I had to bet, I go over Being around 107 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,639 the team seeing him, I think he was pretty beaten up early in the 108 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 year he talked about in a wrist injury a neck injury as well that he 109 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,439 suffered in like the second or third game of the season. I think that 110 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:40,120 really hampered the goals he scored last year really until maybe the end of the 111 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,720 season. He just didn't have that same pop on his wrist shot specifically that 112 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,759 he had the year prior. Now, Is he going to shoot seventeen percent 113 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:51,040 next year? Probably not, But I do expect him to be not only 114 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:57,040 a better goal scorer, but a better player next year. Maybe Travis Green 115 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:01,399 plays him in a more defensive role, maybe having some more defensive duties than 116 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,839 he did under Jack Maultame, but specifically DJ Smith to start the season, 117 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:09,240 But overall, I think you should expect a better season from him. Is 118 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:13,079 he going to be ninety point guy? I think that should be his expectations. 119 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,839 Truthfully, at the very least, I think he can easily be a 120 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:22,680 perennial one hundred point guy in the National Hockey League. Now will that be 121 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:28,560 next year? I don't know. Maybe if the Sins finally breakthrough, I'd 122 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,159 expect Tim Stuts to be in that area all things considered, if he remains 123 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,399 healthy. But I think even in a down year, he was almost a 124 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 point per game. I think he's a year older, he's still super young, 125 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:45,639 super raw, and Travis Green has been really good developing young players. 126 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:48,080 So I think if I had to bet, I'd definitely picked the over that 127 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:54,279 he'd be an over a point per game player next season. I have no 128 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:58,039 questions about and Alex and I have even taken a moment to talk about how 129 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,759 much we both meettually loved this player, Brady Kachuk. We absolutely love this 130 00:09:03,799 --> 00:09:07,720 guy, and boy, fantasy players love him, maybe more than anybody. 131 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:11,960 He had thirty seven goals thirty seven assists for seventy four points in eighty one 132 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,639 games last year. He's a top ten fantasy player based on that. But 133 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:22,399 but more to the point, he is what we call bash the blocks plus 134 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:24,919 shots plus hits. He had the number one ranking in the league, So 135 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,080 if you play in leagues with peripherals, Brady Kachuk is number one. He 136 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:33,080 was in the top twenty five in the NHL and expected goals above replacement. 137 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,480 This is really tough to do if you're on a team that is this far 138 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,360 out of the playoffs, so Kachuk was getting it done. He actually, 139 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,720 we might think of pims when we think of Kachuk, but actually he drew 140 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,200 twelve more penalties than he took last year. That is tremendous. Where is 141 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,240 this twenty four year old now in his career trajectory and what is twenty twenty 142 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,799 four to twenty five gonna bring Alex. I think what he established this year 143 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,159 is that he's a perennial thirty five goal player. I think that's back to 144 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,279 back seasons for him, with as you said, thirty seven goals last year. 145 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:11,440 It's good to see him maybe cut down on the pims a little bit, 146 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,360 maybe and maybe not fight as much just because he is such an important 147 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,559 player. So maybe that changes next season. But overall, he had fifteen 148 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,679 hits in a game I think against New Jersey. I think the hitting will 149 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,799 always stay at the forefront of his game, but he I think that the 150 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,559 good thing about him is that he's probably the most consistent player Knight in night 151 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:35,240 out in terms of what he brings to the game, the energy, the 152 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,200 goal scoring prowess, just such a smart player in and around the net, 153 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:46,639 finds himself in those quiet areas so often, so I think, yeah, 154 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,480 I think he's pretty consistent as you said the top ten fantasy guy. I'd 155 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,320 imagine he'll do that again. He has a lot of lineage with that name 156 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,320 in the NHL and Cache, and I'd expect him to be similar, maybe 157 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,639 even better, maybe more closer to twenty twenty three, where he had over 158 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,159 a pointing game. I think that's probably his bar for himself, maybe closer 159 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,720 to forty goals, maybe eighty eighty five points. I think that would be 160 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,039 a pretty good season for Brady Kuldchuk, and I'd expect that to happen for 161 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,960 him if the Sins take even a little bit of a leap into next year. 162 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Drake Batherson was twenty six this year. He also had a career year 163 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,559 with sixty six points, that was good for third most points on the team. 164 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:30,480 You combine that with two and a half shots and over a hit per 165 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:33,399 game, and that's a pretty nice little fantasy profile Top one hundred. Anyway, 166 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,639 the Bash was a little bit of a fade from last year, a 167 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:41,240 little bit less shots, a little bit of fewer hits. He really didn't 168 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:45,639 get consistent linemates until the last twenty games of the season. Looking at the 169 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,399 chart here, Brady Kuchuk and Sheean Pinto got matched up with him at the 170 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:52,279 end, but otherwise there was a blender going on that was moving him around 171 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,279 a lot during the season. There seems to be a very big drop from 172 00:11:56,279 --> 00:12:00,960 the higher scoring lines to the lower. Batherson you can see in the with 173 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,759 or without You charts that he is able to drag a lot of players back 174 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,559 to relevance when he gets with them, but more or less, he was 175 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,360 just in different positions throughout the year. What do you think of Drake Bathson's 176 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,360 year and what you could expect for him going forward. I think he's established 177 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,480 himself as almost in the same light as Kuld Chuck, except obviously not as 178 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,960 good a player, but as a twenty to twenty five goal scorer in the 179 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:31,720 league, getting about sixty points again. That's back to back sixty point seasons 180 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:35,200 for Bathson. He had a high ankle sprain about three seasons ago that really 181 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,440 hampered him, and I think now he's starting to really heal from that, 182 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,840 so barring any injuries, I think you should see him get twenty twenty five, 183 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:50,000 maybe even flirt with thirty goals sixty points again. And I don't want 184 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,559 to sound like a broken record. The sins improve. I'd probably hit the 185 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,399 over on these guys. They had a really good power play two season ago, 186 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:03,080 a terror power play last year. They're probably more in the middle of 187 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,159 that than they are bad power play in the NHL, so that might even 188 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,519 hike some of his points as well. He was on the first power play 189 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,440 unit for the majority of last season, so overall, I think I don't 190 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,679 know if what the over under is, but I think he's a pretty safe 191 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:24,039 bet to consistently produce points and get you sixty seventy points next season for the 192 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,200 Ottawa Senators, and looking at the heat map, I'll tell you the power 193 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,559 play was sure a whole lot better when Drake Bathson was on the ice, 194 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:35,720 even though overall it didn't net out as well as would be hoped. Claude 195 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:41,039 Drue also hung around fairly near the top one hundred fantasy players. He's probably 196 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,559 never going to hit those heights of the mid twenty tens. Again, we 197 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,840 shouldn't expect it of a thirty six year old, but he has had consistency 198 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,799 and a slow, graceful slope downward in terms of his longevity. But he 199 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:58,039 had sixty four points this year. Not only that, but again thirty six 200 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:01,159 years old, played all eighty two games, skated more than twenty minutes a 201 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:05,919 night. That's pretty that's pretty great. If you ask me. The word 202 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,279 at the end of the year, at the closing press conferences from Jeru himself 203 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,240 is that he's frustrated at losing. There's some talk maybe he could be a 204 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:16,759 flight risk or somebody who wants to trade. What do you think is can 205 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,759 Jeru hang on for another year and where is he going to fall out in 206 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:24,240 this lineup? Maybe as they start getting some more guys back to Yeah, 207 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:26,399 I think he'll be in a pretty similar role going into next year. Yeah, 208 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,000 he's as you mentioned, I don't know if he's a flight risk at 209 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,120 least to begin the season. If they suck again and out of the playoffs, 210 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,600 I could expect him to be traded. But he's from essentially Ottawa, 211 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,720 brought his family to Outawa, so I don't think that's necessarily at the forefront 212 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:46,000 of his mind. But if they keep losing, that might become another question. 213 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,600 Again, talking just about where he is in the lineup, the Sins 214 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,480 don't really have a lot of right wingers outside of Bathston and himself obviously, 215 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:58,720 Drew slides to the center, So I think you should still expect him to 216 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:03,519 play a lot, maybe a bit less, but he's a marvel. Just 217 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,360 what a competitor. He's probably the Senator's most consistent player, and probably through 218 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,240 the first fifty games he was the Senator's best player, and then he tailed 219 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:15,519 off. Maybe that's a bit of age coming back, but the team also 220 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,559 tailed off as well. So I think if he's I think he'll still be 221 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:24,000 a fifty to sixty point guy contribute. I think the power play if it 222 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,559 regained some muster, he'll get way more points. Even though he's on the 223 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:31,600 second power play unit. Ottawa has so many talented forwards that they essentially run 224 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:35,840 two power play units for the past two years. When you're at work, 225 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:39,519 when you're at didn't, so I expect him to still be pretty sensational and 226 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:46,120 still rack up the points. So moving on to Shane Pinto, and he 227 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:50,159 had a pretty interesting season. We only got to see forty one games played 228 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:52,759 for Pinto, but it was highly encouraging. I would say fifty four point 229 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:58,559 pace time on ice was high eighteen minutes. His defensive impacts were good. 230 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:03,279 I would say the bash it was nice, especially the blocks were forward was 231 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,039 really spectacular and he almost got to three shots of game, So he's looking 232 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:11,440 like he's gonna be a high quality bash player. If he can get those 233 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,600 points out, it'll be even better. So, Alex, do you think 234 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,960 that we'll see pinto crest the sixty point pace next season? That's a really 235 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,120 good question. I would if I had to guess, I'd go just on 236 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,240 the under, mostly because you alluded to it. He does shoot a lot, 237 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:29,279 but that's because he's more of a goal scorer than he is a playmaker. 238 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:33,080 He's not high on assists as much, he's not as much creating. 239 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,080 He's more the finisher, especially on the power play as well. So maybe 240 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,200 he gets more power play time and scores a couple more power play goals like 241 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,120 he did in twenty twenty three during a full season. At the same time, 242 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,480 I think sixty points is probably a reach if I had to guess, 243 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:53,159 just because even if Autawoad plays really well this year, he was maybe at 244 00:16:53,200 --> 00:17:00,000 a point close to sixty points but had an elevated role that might be different 245 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,200 depending on offseason moves. Obviously, as well, Josh Norris is injury looms 246 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:10,400 large so if he's the second line center all season, then maybe sixties in 247 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,680 the cards. But if Josh Norris is relatively healthy, then he might be 248 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:17,279 a third line center, and it's hard to get sixty points to the third 249 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:21,039 line center. So I'd probably take the under if, just being me and 250 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:26,039 how I see it. Let's dig into that if about Josh Norris, because 251 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:32,480 he definitely is one of the players on whom the season could swing. He 252 00:17:32,599 --> 00:17:36,359 had, of course, more injuries this year, specifically a shoulder injury that 253 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:40,960 was not his first. Either didn't really get first line minutes even in the 254 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,680 part of the season he's played. I don't know if that's injury related or 255 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,000 not, because that was earlier in the season. I believe in the three 256 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:52,440 seasons following that wonderful, promising rookie year, he's only played one hundred and 257 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,960 twenty four out of two hundred and forty six possible games. This year was 258 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,480 a slow scoring rate, though nearly two hit game was a pleasant surprise. 259 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:03,599 Hey, Josh, if you're hurt, stop hitting people, man, that's 260 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,400 only gonna damage you. Stop it. At twenty five, he's not quite 261 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,240 as young as I tend to think. I'm getting older. I'm still thinking 262 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,640 of these guys who I can remember their rookie seasons extremely well. I must 263 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,519 still be a kid. He's twenty five. Could Norris get back on track 264 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:21,799 and would he be the center one on this team if he did? What 265 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:25,920 would that type of a season look like? What do you expect? Yeah, 266 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,839 I think that's the million dollar question with this organization going forward. Is 267 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,839 really the health of Josh Morris. I think you talk about the goal scoring 268 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,759 dipping significantly last year from his thirty five goal year in twenty twenty two. 269 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:45,000 That shoulder to me seeing him being around practice, it just doesn't have that 270 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:49,559 same zip that it used to have with his slap shot and snapshot. Now, 271 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:56,000 modern medicine is great these days, very different than it was twenty thirty 272 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,960 years ago. But I think until you see him show that same caliber of 273 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,920 a shot that he used to have which really made him get that big contract, 274 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,039 I don't see him supplanting Tim Stutsla anytime soon because he isn't the same 275 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:15,240 playmaker as Tim Stutts, although he is arguably a better defensive player. So 276 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,519 I think with Josh Norris, I know it's a cop out answer, but 277 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:23,839 I'd say wait and see, thus meaning probably don't look at him, at 278 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,400 least not for the time being. He might be good to pick up later 279 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,119 in the season as well, But yeah, I think that's a really big 280 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,960 question here in Ottawa is what does he look like? Can you regain that 281 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:41,759 same form that showed saw him really show himself to be a top six the 282 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:45,279 top two center in this league, and he hasn't really lived up to it 283 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:53,039 ever since his first shoulders surgery and injury last season. A couple additional forwards 284 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:57,599 is to throw out two more for your choose him which one is going to 285 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,240 get more points? Matthew Joe's for Ridley Greeg. A little bit of background 286 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:07,400 information of both Matthew Joseph, of course, the veteran traded over from Tampa 287 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,720 thirty five points in seventy two games last year, takes a fair number of 288 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:17,119 hits and but otherwise maybe fairly well established, doesn't necessarily blow out the scoring. 289 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:22,920 Ridley Greeg played seventy two games identical number last year, scored fewer points, 290 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,680 only twenty six. But he's also six years younger and hits even more 291 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,039 actually, as it turns out, but shoots less frequently, so that could 292 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:34,160 be a problem. Which one of these two guys, Greg or Joseph do 293 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:40,319 you prefer for a points situation. I'd put all my money on Ridley Greg 294 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,000 just because he's a young player. He was he I think he was tied 295 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,960 for rookie scoring with maybe twelve games into the season and then that had a 296 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,480 high ankle sprain and being in the locker room and talking to him and bathroom 297 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,359 soon and both had high ankle sprains. They typically even though you're back, 298 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:02,440 you're not really back for maybe a good year or two until that ankle feels 299 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,759 fully recovered. And I think you'll just have a bigger role next year. 300 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:08,720 He's played eighty two games. I know that it was a bit of adjustment 301 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:12,640 later in the season to really go through the grind of eighty two games as 302 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:18,279 a young player, and Matthew Joseph had a career year last season, and 303 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:19,720 I just don't know if he'll do that the same way. In terms of 304 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:23,640 point wise, I still think he's a really good player on your as a 305 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,359 top nine player, third line winger. But when you see career year and 306 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,279 then a one rookie kind of making strides, I feel like Joseph will probably 307 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,480 have a few points next year, and I expect Greg to have more. 308 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,720 So I really think Ridley Greg will have more points than Matthew Joseph next season. 309 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Let's move to the blue line. Jacob Chickrin, he is to me, 310 00:21:47,759 --> 00:21:48,720 he's gonna enigma. I don't know, we'll get to it. But 311 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,720 Ottawa has taken some admirable swings over the last few years. If you want 312 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,119 your team to take some shots on guys and make some trades, and Chickeran 313 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,160 is exhibit a of that. His first two big years, or his two 314 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,119 big years were at the bookends of COVID in his career, the one season 315 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,160 before it and the one season right after it. Otherwise, his performance is 316 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,880 his scoring just hasn't It hasn't been at a superstar level, so to speak. 317 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,960 His batch block shots and hits was forty fourth in the NHL, and 318 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,720 again, half a point per game is pretty nice. If out of what 319 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,079 was expecting a superstar defenseman, it doesn't look like he is doing that. 320 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:30,559 On the other hand, he's playing, you know, very well. He's 321 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:34,119 got very good production, very good performance. And at the same time, 322 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,440 there's a couple of other very prominent defensemen who will be getting to in a 323 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,440 minute, who are also filling some major roles in the defense. Some may 324 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:48,359 have just been wish casting that late Arizona lull was just because it was Arizona 325 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,519 and what the heck, what are we even doing here? But it is 326 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,400 the Jacob Chickering we saw last year. What are your thoughts on him? 327 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,960 And is this pretty much what we're going to see from chicken going far? 328 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:03,759 And of course will it be in an auto with Jersey? Yeah, I 329 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,839 don't think he'll be. If I had the bet, I don't think he'll 330 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,920 be an auto with Jersey next season. I think if you read the tea 331 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,160 leaves from Staeos and even Chickrin at the exit meetings and just what's swirling around 332 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,359 here in Ottawa, I don't think Chickern will be here next season. Now, 333 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,440 to answer your question of just the defenseman he is, I think he 334 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:29,799 has awesome tools as an offensive defenceman, specifically unbelievable shot. He's a decent 335 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:33,920 playmaker, but pretty quick and just yeah, that shot just can get you. 336 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,680 I can't think of, off the top of my head how many goals 337 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,400 he had, but he had double digits of goals this year. I think 338 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,640 that's a consistency for him half a point per game defenseman sounds like it. 339 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,519 If he goes to a better team, I think maybe as a on the 340 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:53,160 top power play I could definitely see him producing even more. So. I 341 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:59,119 think he's probably in between that Arizona part where he had I think almost twenty 342 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,000 goals in fifty six games, compared to the guy here in Ottawa who's struggled 343 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,920 defensively and even scoring wise, where he's not at whare people expected of him 344 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,519 as that top two type defenseman, where he's really spin slotted in this the 345 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,839 more three to four. So overall, I think he's probably in a mix 346 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,759 between the two, and I think it depends on where he is next year 347 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,000 will really dictate how many points he'll get next season. Well, you're right, 348 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:29,759 the Jacob Chickron had fourteen goals, so definitely double digits. Well also 349 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:33,319 had double digit goals. That's the next guy, Jake Sanderson, he had 350 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,599 ten, and I think the Jake Sanderson managers just loved what you said right 351 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,720 there. If Shabad is out of the way, that certainly means more opportunity 352 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,880 for Sanderson, and he's been pretty awesome, steadily improving his defensive game is 353 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,039 just outrageously good. He's a stellar defensively. He may not be the most 354 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:53,839 offensively dynamic, but he still has a lot to give there and certainly, 355 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,039 if with more opportunity, could really see that part of his game grow. 356 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,440 Last season and his time on ice grew to over twenty three minutes, he 357 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,559 was at just under twenty two previously. His point pace was pretty similar thirty 358 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,839 nine compared to thirty four of the previous season, but the power play time 359 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,039 went down. I'm sure that chickenen had something to do with that. Despite 360 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:18,039 having more time power play time on ice and the hefty share, his number 361 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:22,160 of points went down. The blocks here are great, the hits are just 362 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,720 okay, and the shots are similar, so he basically blocks a lot. 363 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,039 The other two aren't as great. But what can we expect from Sanderson? 364 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,480 Do you think he can get closer to that fifty point pace, especially with 365 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,880 chicken potentially not being there. I definitely think so. And you talk about 366 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,319 shooting, I know he talked to us at the end of the year how 367 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,799 a big emphasis for him was shooting the puck more, not being as passive 368 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,279 and really just getting shots on nets. So that's a good thing for fantasy 369 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:53,440 owners talking about Jake Sanderson. But yeah, I think he's closer to that 370 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:59,119 fifty point guy. I don't think he'll ever be Eric Carlson here in audible. 371 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,960 But at the same time time, I do think that offensive part of 372 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,720 his game will be developed, and I think each year he's such a hard 373 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,680 worker. I think each year you'll see a little bit of a progression in 374 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:14,839 terms of his playmaking, his goal scoring. He has a pretty good shot, 375 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,599 and I expect him to be closer to that fifty point mark. I 376 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,920 don't know if he'll get there, but I think i'd be surprised that he'd 377 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,160 have less than forty points next season if he's relatively healthy in place a full 378 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,240 eighty two or close to that game season. So I think it's a pretty 379 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:37,559 good bet on a twenty one year old defenseman to take another leap, especially 380 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,720 offensively, because that's really the area of where he can he's trying to improve 381 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,319 the most. Love hearing that about Sanderson, but not so fast, my 382 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,839 friends. Don't forget about Thomas Shabbat. Don't make him the forgotten man, 383 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,759 because he has been good for this team for quite a while. He had 384 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:56,599 a rough year there's just no way around it. He had a broken tibia 385 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,200 at one point that made him miss kind of the two twenty twenty three in 386 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,640 and then risk surgery after the year he had some upper body stuff. I 387 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,119 guess that was probably the risk. You probably know better than me. Still, 388 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,200 after all that, he had a very nice block total nearly two blocks 389 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,480 a game, a hit in more than two shots in the games that he 390 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:21,720 was able to get out there the fifty one games, and a forty eight 391 00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:26,400 point pace if it would have been over the full eighty two, whether for 392 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,799 injuries or strong performances from the Sanderson's of the world. And I guess maybe 393 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,960 it sounds like the chickerns won't be as much of an issue. Still, 394 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:37,279 it looks like Shabat has lost his hammer lock on the power play he had 395 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:41,039 for a few years for some of those others, and that can be the 396 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,960 key to his scoring. So I do worry about that. But you tell 397 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200 me, maybe it's a two defenseman that we're going to expect. But do 398 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,319 you expect Shabbat to come back strong from this injury, and what kind of 399 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,400 a role is he going to have when he does. I think you'll still 400 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,119 have a very big role with this team. I think he's going to be 401 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,359 on the team next year, just because his contract is so large and for 402 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,680 so long. I thought, honestly, in the games that he played, 403 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,559 he was very good offensively, and if the team maybe around him had played 404 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:12,359 better, specifically had been scoring more goals, I think you see him closer 405 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,039 to that fifty to sixty point mark now, as you alluded to it. 406 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:21,720 With Sanderson, there is a bit of a clog there just because typically you 407 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,559 can only have one defenseman on the power play, and I think that I 408 00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,400 think for the most part, it'll be very much one A, one B 409 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,880 with Shabon and Sanderson in terms of manning the first power play unit. That's 410 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:36,200 essentially what we saw this year. Even when Shabah played, it didn't mean 411 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,400 that he was always on power play one, but also didn't mean that he 412 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,920 was necessarily on power play two. And he had developed a bit of a 413 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,839 chemistry with Chickrin on a power play unit where Chickrin was the guy in the 414 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,720 slot that they tried to feed. That might change a little bit with Chickrin 415 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,920 gon, So I think if with Chickrin gone, I'd imagine his role offensively 416 00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:00,480 might even increase just because of the low placed upon him. I don't think 417 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:04,720 they're bringing in an upright shot defenseman that's a creator. So I think for 418 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:10,359 the most part, I think that forty to fifty point guy, if he 419 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,160 can stay healthy, I think that's where Shabbat lands for next season. We're 420 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000 going to talk about one of my formerly favorite players. I had high hopes 421 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,519 for k Branstrom early in his career, but it seems like he's settled into 422 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,200 kind of who he is now. He's much better defensively than he ever got 423 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,440 credit for. Initially, he was always billed as an offensive defenseman who couldn't 424 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,960 defend too well, but that narrative has changed. He was actually pretty good 425 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,240 defensively last year, but it seems like the offense has gone away. So 426 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:38,559 I think that's the question here, Alex. Is there any hope for more 427 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,440 offense from Eric Branston or is he just going to be a twenty five point 428 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:47,519 pace, more defensively responsible defenseman. I think the hope is for him to 429 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:52,319 go somewhere else and maybe flourish. I would be surprised if he's back in 430 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,200 Audawa. As you said, he's a very good def I like him as 431 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,839 a defenseman. I think in Ottawa it probably doesn't make a lot of sense 432 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,960 him the third left shot defenseman, especially where he isn't having any power play 433 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680 time really at all. So yeah, I don't. I also don't think 434 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,440 that he'll be back in Autawa similar to Chickrin, I don't think they will 435 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:17,599 qualify his qualifying as a restricted free agent. So maybe if he goes to 436 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,039 an up and coming team, maybe a Chicago, maybe a San Jose, 437 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,000 gets a bigger role. I could definitely see him flourishing. But if he 438 00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:29,680 remains in Ottawa, I don't think that he's gonna take a step up in 439 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,960 terms of points wise. I think he'll be in that twenty twenty five point 440 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,920 guy. But I also don't think he'll be in Autawa. So then hopefully 441 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,279 he's somewhere else and you can flourish and be that defenseman that you said, 442 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:45,759 Victor, that you were high on two years ago. Yeah, he should 443 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,119 go to San Jose. They literally have zero options there. That'd be perfect. 444 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:53,240 That was what I was thinking about. That Chicago just feast. Yeah, 445 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,279 although they have a couple of guys who could do Yeah, yeah, 446 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,519 yeah, all right, that's great. I the best fer Branstrum. Let's 447 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,000 move on to the goalies. The Senators, as Jesse alluded to in the 448 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,519 intro, they had the eighteenth ranked expected goals per sixty but conceded the thirtieth 449 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:15,519 ranked actual goals. That is obviously not good and we saw all the goalie 450 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,440 struggle. Obviously Corporslo got the most of it. And on Forsburg, Matt 451 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,720 I had played thirty games and Matt Sguard had six. So it was the 452 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,440 first season of this corpor Solo four million dollars per five year contract. I 453 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,359 was pretty skeptical about this from the beginning. I didn't think that it was 454 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,279 a smart move. You know, you knew he was going to get the 455 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,119 majority of the starts because of that cap hit, and he certainly did, 456 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,079 and it was not great. Both of the main goalies had ross a percentage 457 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,480 under eight ninety. Corporsolo had negative seven point five four goals save above expected, 458 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,839 a negative point four to two delta Fenwick. Forsburg had negative six point 459 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,319 four to seven goals save above expected and negative point seven to four delta Fenwick. 460 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,160 Soguard got into six games. I managed as I mentioned, and managed 461 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,200 to have worse stats. It was actually dramatically worse. He had one of 462 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,279 the as Jesse alluded to, the one of the most unfortunate, hilarious goals 463 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,319 scored against him, where he wasn't even looking at the puck. So that's 464 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:13,200 a time for a better play from so guard in the future. But we 465 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,640 all know Alex it was bad. So what can we expect from the Centator's 466 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:22,920 goalie situation next season and where corpus Salo still see over fifty starts. I 467 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,720 think Corpuslo will be back. I don't think the Sins are buying him out, 468 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,200 which has been the conversation here in Ottawa, which is crazy after signing 469 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:35,039 a five year deal and then after the first year already thinking about buying out 470 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:38,079 the player. I think, if I'm being honest, it couldn't have gone 471 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:43,559 any worse, so it probably will be better, is probably the rationale around 472 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:47,240 Corpusalo and even Anton Forsburg. I do expect that, if I had to 473 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,680 guess, hearing the reading the tea leaves is that Orsburg probably won't be back. 474 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,799 I think the Senators will try to through free agency, maybe through through 475 00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:02,839 the trade group, try to acquire another established goalie to pay alongside Corpuslo, 476 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,839 and I think that the team goal will be to be a better defensive team 477 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,160 next season in front of Corpuslo, because, to be honest, for many 478 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,079 stretches of the season, it wasn't just because of Corporas Salo or Forestburgh letting 479 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:20,359 the team down. The team let them down as well. Although at the 480 00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:22,519 same time, as you alluded to it, a lot of goals went in 481 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:27,319 that should never go in the National Hockey League, and that was pretty routine 482 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400 and that just can't be the case. I think that the good thing is 483 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,400 that none of those goalies have really shown themselves to be that throughout their career, 484 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:39,000 outside of maybe one other bad year for Corpuslo after an injury. I'd 485 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:44,079 expect them to improve, but I don't think we're probably trying to pick them 486 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,880 up early in a draft with a bunch of other goalies out there. I 487 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,039 think that's maybe Bargain been shopping or on the waiver wire with both of those 488 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,640 goalies. But I do think that they will be better next season, just 489 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,079 because I don't know how they could be worse than they were last year, 490 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:01,759 so bad that it can't get worse as they say, right, But it's 491 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:06,400 interesting you say Forsberg probably won't be back. So what is the team and 492 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,119 what do you think of Matt Soguard. Obviously he did not show very well 493 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:10,320 this year, but there were a lot of reasons for that. Do you 494 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,800 think that he could get twenty thirty starts? If that's the case, that's 495 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,159 pretty interesting value for him, especially if the team can turn things around defensively. 496 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,440 I don't, just I don't think that's the plan for so guard. 497 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:28,119 It's been he's an interesting test case just because he's done very well at the 498 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,199 AHL level and every time he comes to the NHL he's fallen flat on his 499 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,760 face, as he alluded to his terrible numbers in those six games Victor. 500 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:43,320 So, I think he's the third goalie. Could he play twenty games maybe 501 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,639 if something happens, injuries happen, especially to go goaltenders, but I don't. 502 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,119 I think heading into the season, unless there's injuries, he'll be the 503 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:55,480 third goalie in the depth chart. Maybe he shines, and goaltending such a 504 00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,360 fickle position as we all know, right, So maybe at the end of 505 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,280 the season he's the starting goalie. But I think heading into the season. 506 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,239 I don't expect him to be in Ottawa. I expect him to be in 507 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,719 Bellville at least for one more season until they have to really make a decision 508 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,559 on them. Alex, this was some great information on the Ottawa Senators. 509 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,760 Why don't you let people know how they can keep up with all your work. 510 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,280 Thanks so much you guys for having me on. This was a lot 511 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,719 of fun. I hope I helped in the fantasy realm, but yeah, 512 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:32,400 I cover the Senators for the Hockey News in the dressing room talking to players. 513 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,159 I always try to do some cool features with players. I cover PWHL 514 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:42,679 Ottawa as well, which has been a blast. Hopefully the playoff drought here 515 00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:46,519 in Otawa for hockey teams ends next season and I can cover some playoff hockey 516 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:51,039 and then at the same time I have a podcast called Behind the Play. 517 00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,519 A lot of hockey people have been on it. Ron McClain, David Amber, 518 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,000 Gordon Miller, James Duffy. Those are more people in the Canadian realm, 519 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:05,039 but I've had Greg Wishinski obviously, American Big and ESPN here for you 520 00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:08,000 guys in the States. Check it out and subscribe and have some cool Senators, 521 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:15,920 but also hockey content coming out all summer. All right, thanks Alex, 522 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:27,119 thanks so much. Thanks will sit then that's good fer passed off. 523 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:35,599 Oh my goodness, grow long a with a cat quick grab. Now it's 524 00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:40,199 your weekly goalie talk with Kat Silverman. Kat's Instincts joined once again by Kat 525 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,880 Silverman of Ingold mag to talk goalies. Of course, we're doing Outawak Senators 526 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,800 goalies this time, and we're going to start with the great Dane mads so 527 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,119 Guard. And Mad's the six foot seven, one hundred and ninety eight pound 528 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,840 twenty nineteen second round pick. He'll be twenty four this season. Played six 529 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,280 games the NHL after this season after nineteen last season. Mostly he was in 530 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,079 the AHL, and he was better this season than previously. His goal save 531 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:12,360 above expected was a little bit better this season than in the past. He 532 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,599 has hovered around the good mark in the AHL above one point zero, and 533 00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:19,960 I think that's been the story in the AHL. He's been good. When 534 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,559 they brought him up to the NHL, he hasn't looked quite as good. 535 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:28,559 His hockey prospecting equivalency still looks really strong based on those AHL times close to 536 00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,840 Anton Fordsburg equivalency. Last year, Kat, you talked about how he needed 537 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,199 a little bit of a technical overhaul and how inconsistent he was, opening up 538 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:38,840 too many holes in his movement. So what do your instincts tell us now 539 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,599 about Matt Sogard. The good thing is, it looks like he listened to 540 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:47,280 that was watching some of his highlights, both from the AHL and the NHL, 541 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,840 and it looks like he's controlling his movement a little bit more. That's 542 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,559 always going to be an area of notdinary difficulty, but a point where he 543 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,559 has to make a conscious effort on it, just because he is so tall 544 00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:07,920 and so lanky that if he gets a little too loose or tries to do 545 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,719 a little bit too much, even though he's big physically in terms of taking 546 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,280 up the top of the net, he opens up so many extra holes just 547 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,000 because as soon as he starts to put his arms out he doesn't really have 548 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,000 that brick wall physical presence. And he used to have this really bad habit 549 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:28,480 of coming out too far. He would try to make those really he'd try 550 00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:32,199 to make those last ditch effort saves on fairly easy looking routine saves, and 551 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,480 it looked like he was doing a better job of discerning when he needed to 552 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,880 do the most and when he could really dial it back. That being said, 553 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:46,719 I think he's still working on maintaining consistency with that so essentially baking that 554 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,760 into his game, which is something that It's interesting that Anton Forstburg is a 555 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,280 good comparable for him, because that's someone else who when he gets a little 556 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,039 stressed during a game, he lets in a few too many bad goals. 557 00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:02,719 He plays for the Chicago Blackhawks, he starts to do a little bit too 558 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,960 much, and you notice him almost drawing himself away from saves, just trying 559 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,880 to get as much space covered as possible, when he could really just sit 560 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,519 and wait for things to happen. But when he's playing a patient game, 561 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:21,239 he's a really stellar goaltender. And that's something that I think we're seeing from 562 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,679 Soguard, which is something that I didn't think he necessarily had in his game, 563 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,239 Especially during his draft year. I was watching some of his games and 564 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,800 looked like he was going to be someone who was just constantly on the move 565 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,920 and constantly trying to do too much. And it looks like he's finally figured 566 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,960 out how to go down a little bit and if he's able to continue doing 567 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,639 that consistently, I think he's got NHL potential. Obviously he's been playing in 568 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:49,880 the NHL, but in terms of just staying power there, I think he 569 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,960 can. I think he can do it. Do you think he can be 570 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,800 either a next starter or do you think they should still be on the hunt. 571 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,639 That's really tough because there, with all due respect to Otto, they're 572 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,599 not a great team yet. They're getting there, but they're not a great 573 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:10,880 team yet. And I think he looks like if he's playing with a consistent, 574 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,320 strong team, he could be there. He could have that starter potential. 575 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,679 But it's almost like looking at the way that Carter Hart performed with the 576 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,599 Philadelphia Flyers. If a team is struggling enough in front of a guy who 577 00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:27,920 is still trying to find their footing, that can almost knock their feet out 578 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,199 from under them, And that's something that I think he runs the risk of. 579 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,159 But if the team manages to see even just a little more consistency between 580 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,920 from them, not necessarily a huge step forward to where they're setting records with 581 00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:47,079 points throughout the year, but just some defensive decision making consistency I think would 582 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:52,239 go a long way and give him a chance to solidify what I think could 583 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,119 be starting power, if not tandem power, which is something that Ottawa may 584 00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:59,880 want to even be aiming for moving forward as tandem not a peer starter, 585 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:04,840 just based on their style of play, or maybe at least not hand out 586 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,880 a bunch of money to an unproven starter. No that that'd be great for 587 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,400 them, Maybe a good step forward. All right, enough, Shade, 588 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,039 Let's move on to Levi Marilina and the next goalie we're going to talk about. 589 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,159 Twenty twenty third round pick. He's six three hundred and seventy four pounds 590 00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:23,920 and he will be twenty two over this summer. He's an August birthday, 591 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:28,320 came over at the end of last season to North America. Mostly played in 592 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,039 the AHL, but also spent some time in the ECCHL that I think was 593 00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:37,320 more of a situation of getting more playing time. He looks decent in the 594 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,320 hockey prospecting model, at least in the sense that he started with a really 595 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,679 low equivalency based on a low equivalency league, and he's been trending up since 596 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,280 then. Twenty five percent chance now being a starter. The comp here in 597 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,679 hockey prospecting is Jake Allen in terms of potential, not necessarily style. Of 598 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,639 course, last year you talked about how Marilina entered the Carpat system around the 599 00:41:57,639 --> 00:42:02,559 time Joe blunkwisted and just as Enin were there, and how he was pushed 600 00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:06,119 down the depth chart a little bit. I think you mentioned you would put 601 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,079 Marilina and ahead of Sogar last season. I wonder if you still feel that 602 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:13,360 way or the steps forward that Soguard have made maybe change out a little bit. 603 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,559 What do your instincts tell us about Marilina. I think that so I 604 00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:22,360 was watching some of the games for Marilina last year, and I'd put them 605 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,440 more on equal footing now because I do think that so guard that's not necessarily 606 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,360 a knock against Marilina, And I don't think that he took a step back. 607 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,920 But I do think that Soguard took that huge step forward last year of 608 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,239 just solidifying his technique, because that's where I had my biggest reservations about putting 609 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,480 him at the top of the depth chart. I did look like Marilina needed 610 00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,920 a little bit of a learning curve when he came to North America. He 611 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,320 didn't seem to have a super seamless transition. Because his numbers were fine, 612 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,840 but they weren't stellar. It looks like he, honestly, from a style 613 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,239 perspective, looked a little more. I know that from a number's perspective has 614 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,840 comparable there is a Jake Allen. From a style perspective, he looked a 615 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:08,360 little like an anti Ronto, someone who plays with energy but stays within the 616 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:15,920 blue paint and doesn't really try to become too overactive. And that's something that 617 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,360 I love seeing from a goaltender. But there were a couple save sequences that 618 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,639 I watched where I was like, I thought that he probably could have controlled 619 00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:29,400 his movement a little bit, especially from a depths management perspective. He spent 620 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,840 a lot of time moving from his goal line up to the top of the 621 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,760 blue paint, and he did a good job of not coming all the way 622 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,960 out of it, but he just kept going back and forth, and he 623 00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:44,239 was doing so much depths of roaming that I wanted to see him just pick 624 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,360 a spot and settle down a little bit. And that may have been him 625 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,880 just trying to find his comfort zone in North America with the speed of the 626 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,239 game and just trying to figure out where he feels most confident situating himself for 627 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,320 the bulk of the game. But there was a little bit too much movement 628 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,679 to come out to challenge and then immediately move back to the goal line. 629 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:12,599 And I think that's from an energy conservation standpoint, even if that worked effectively 630 00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:16,079 during the game, that's something that if you need to play two or three 631 00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:22,000 or even four games in a one to two week span, that can drain 632 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,880 you and to almost leave you right for the picking. Kind of when you 633 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,679 look at the way that a guy like Mike Smith played back to backs and 634 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,440 would do really well one game and then just tank the next one. That 635 00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:36,719 sort of lack of energy conservation from a goaltender can drain them so that their 636 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,480 next game looks like they don't belong out there anymore. And so that's where 637 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,880 I find hesitation putting him clearly ahead of Soguard because I saw a lot of 638 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,840 additional conservation from Soguard that I hadn't in the past. Just from an energy 639 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,760 excuse me, an energy efficiency standpoint, I would put them a little more 640 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,199 on par now. So Guards looked even a little bit better, So we'll 641 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,559 see. I think they're both still super promising goaltenders. I think Ottawa has 642 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,440 a wealth of riches coming up in their system. It's just a matter of 643 00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:12,920 when we'll see them take that final step to being a consistent one hundred percent 644 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,920 NHL goaltender. And I do think that Marilynon's not there at the moment. 645 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,079 All right, let's talk about the last one. Kevin Mandalis twenty eighteen to 646 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,199 six, round pick six, four hundred and eighty eight pounds. Third season 647 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,400 in the AHL. He talked a little bit last year about he seemed to 648 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,760 struggle a bit there, spent a little bit more time in the ECCHL this 649 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,800 time, only a couple ECCHL games with mostly AHL time and a little bit 650 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,400 better numbers in both. So it seems like maybe he's improving a little bit. 651 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,119 But also I think we talked that he was trending more like a backup. 652 00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:45,559 I wonder if you still feel that way. He had a couple NHL 653 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:51,559 games last season on this season, but der instincts tell us that Mandalise is 654 00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:53,559 just more of a backup placeholder or should we have a little bit more hope 655 00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:58,480 for him from a decision making standpoint, Watching the way he makes some of 656 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,039 his safes and doesn't make some of his saves. In all honesty, he 657 00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:05,519 still to me looks like a backup, just because some of his decision making 658 00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:13,599 looks still a little baffling and not quite instinctual for me, like I'm still 659 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:20,440 waiting to see him make consistently good decisions on the ice, both from a 660 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,760 depth management perspective and an energy perspective. He looked a little better, but 661 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,960 not great, and especially since they have two goaltenders ahead of him who were, 662 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:37,360 in my opinion, still clearly demonstrably better in terms of upside. I 663 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,400 don't necessarily see anything that he's shown. I guess at this point for him, 664 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,280 it's more of a has he proven otherwise? Has he proven that he 665 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:52,599 can very clearly be that starter versus a backup? And I haven't quite seen 666 00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:54,800 that from him just and that may even just be a luck of the draw 667 00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:00,920 thing for him that he has two more highly touted prospers who are doing a 668 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,760 little bit better in their development than him, so he has to prove that 669 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:12,119 he can versus some goaltending prospect or able to afforded that opportunity to hands the 670 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,440 opportunity right back. They have to prove that they can't, and I think 671 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,559 for him, unfortunately, he's going to have to prove that he can. 672 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,880 I think we'll see. It's nice having depth, though, because he does 673 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,360 look like, at least from a movement perspective, he's fast, and so 674 00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,559 even if he ends up being a tweener backup for them, someone who spends 675 00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:34,199 most of his time in the AHL and then pops up to the NHL when 676 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,719 injuries and necessitate it, that's not a bad thing to have in your system. 677 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,880 We've seen so many teams recently really scramble when it comes to finding someone 678 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,280 to fill that role, and if that's what he ends up being for Attawa, 679 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,679 that's not a bad thing, especially if he's able to stay on for 680 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,679 an affordable rate. So awesome, Thanks so much for giving us your insights 681 00:47:53,719 --> 00:48:15,679 on the Ottawa Center. Goalies will be back right after this. Big is 682 00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:21,920 the Dynasty gaw Senators An addition, Victor, you don't care for the Ottawa 683 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,320 Senator's prospect system very much. It's gonna be a little bit of snark today. 684 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,079 I think you got to bring twenty fourth. I guess that's not bad. 685 00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:31,760 They pick seventh overall in the draft, and they've got an extra first, 686 00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:36,639 three, extra fourths, but they are missing their own third, six, 687 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,199 and seventh. They're all over the place. These guys we are starting 688 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,039 with, uh, Normally we have a no brainer. Apparently today we're going 689 00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,960 to have a some brainer. Who is a victor? Yeah, snarky is 690 00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,400 right. What is to like about this system? Our some brainer? Because 691 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,119 it's not quite as great as you would like for your top prospect. But 692 00:48:55,159 --> 00:49:00,920 it's Zach a Stapcheck. Zach Stapchack with a twenty twenty one second round pick, 693 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,639 thirty ninth overall. He's sixty three, two hundred five pounds left wing. 694 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:08,800 He had a really strong WHL career. He was with the Vancouver Giants 695 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,480 for most of it and they moved over to the Winnipeg Ice for part of 696 00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,880 last the previous season. He's played internationally for Canada at the World Juniors. 697 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,159 No more of a depth center role, which intent I think is where he's 698 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:23,519 gonna end up in the future. But he did have a really strong season 699 00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:28,519 for Belleville of the HL first professional season, twenty eight points in sixty nine 700 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,559 games, getting close to that half point per game mark, which is pretty 701 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,360 solid. He did actually get into seven NHL games. I know, hard 702 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,800 to imagine you didn't hear much about it because it's Ottawa and he didn't really 703 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,119 do too much and that team is not good right now. But his FHL 704 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,000 player card, Oh, he didn't score any of those NHL games either, 705 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,639 But the FHL card looks pretty solid. In terms of his peripheral production, 706 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,440 He's got pretty good hits and blocks. Doesn't really shoot much and doesn't really 707 00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,760 score much is the big problem. His assists for sixty near the bottom of 708 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,960 the league. His goals for sixty are around average. His bash is pretty 709 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719 low because it doesn't shoot a lot, but his hits and blocks are good. 710 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,679 Looking at some of his play driving numbers, I mean, it's not 711 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,679 terrible considering he was a first year AHL player, first professional season, but 712 00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:21,360 overall, in terms of related to his peers, a lot of his scoring 713 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,840 chances, puck battles, scoring entries, and play driving was poor. But 714 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:30,119 let's hear a little bit more about what makes Zachostatchek a potentially interesting player from 715 00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:37,159 our FHL scout. This scouting report comes courtesy of our man Grant. Zach 716 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,000 Ostapchuk has excellent balance as far as his skating is strong on his skates, 717 00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:46,400 lacks separation speed at the AHL and NHL level, so he's going to need 718 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:52,679 to work hard to get to open spaces, but overall slightly below average for 719 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,679 passing and handling. He's not going to dangle the puck or drive play at 720 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,639 the NHL level, but he sees the ice well and has a nice accurate 721 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,840 path in all three zones. Lack of elite puck handling is what will keep 722 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,519 his ceiling lower than it could be for shooting slightly above average snap or wrist 723 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,679 shot when he has a time or space to get it off. Most of 724 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,519 his goals at AHL or NHL level would be inside the hash marks for his 725 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:22,360 IQ average anticipation at best, but sees the ice well in both the offensive 726 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,840 and defensive zones. He's comfortable in his own end and has shown patience with 727 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,000 the puck at the NHL level well stopchuk as far as his fore checking can 728 00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:35,800 be very physical on the fore check, works hard to get in quickly, 729 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,239 wins more board battles than he loses defense. Needs to work on his positioning 730 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,960 down low in his own end, but very responsible leaving his own end as 731 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,760 the last forward on most occasions. Depending on where he plays at either center 732 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,559 or wing, he's going to need to improve on picking up the different assignments 733 00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:55,480 on the fly for each of those positions. So the best asset was the 734 00:51:55,519 --> 00:52:00,760 fore checking and defensive responsibility. The concern lack of offense if he's not winning 735 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,360 face offs, being physical or winning puck battles. Doesn't have much to fall 736 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,320 back on if there is little production, says Grant. So the top tier 737 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,800 outcome if everything breaks right, third line center big plays a heavy game, 738 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,480 could ship in fifteen to twenty five goals, thirty five to forty five points, 739 00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:22,679 and win his fair share of face offs. Maybe a valuable penalty killer 740 00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:28,639 boy. Fiftieth percentile fourth line center, and this is where Grant says he 741 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,320 believes he's going to have a role in the NHL, but probably only as 742 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,679 far as his production takes him. He could be an eight to twelve goal, 743 00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:38,559 twenty to twenty five points center who gets one hundred hits per year as 744 00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:45,239 his floor and Nicholas roy Is the style is the comparable. Final thoughts, 745 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,280 hard working, big bited center has a floor and ceiling between the third and 746 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,559 fourth line, and the NHL could take him a year or two to become 747 00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:58,880 a regular NHLer who gets sixty games plus. And our friend Mason Black on 748 00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:05,159 Zach as this comparison that he puts up. It's Zach a Stopchuk versus Danila 749 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,320 Klimovich. Victor, don't correct my Russian pronunciation on this one, man, 750 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,840 I know where you're going Kolimovich or something. And here is what the competition 751 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,079 comes out. A stopchuck wins in a route on this one. Seventy one 752 00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:22,920 to twenty nine is what is going on, Vancouver supporters that you're letting in 753 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:30,000 an Ottawa Senators prospect get a major outvote to you. Is this the way 754 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,840 that you would stack these two up, Victor? This is a hard choice 755 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,480 because I don't think either one of these guys are really all that terribly interesting. 756 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,719 They are probably both gonna end up being more preferrale guys. A Stopchuck 757 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,960 I just mentioned hits and blocks a lot. Klimovich actually hits a ton and 758 00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:52,480 shoots a lot shots and hits for Klimovich hits some blocks for a Stopchuck. 759 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,280 I don't think either of them are going to score a whole lot, but 760 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,840 I do think the scoring will favor a stop chuck. But I think we're 761 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,880 probably talking his pnhil is. I think he's You're probably talking about a thirty 762 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,800 to forty point score versus Klimovich being like a ten to twenty or something like 763 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,719 that, really low. So you have to keep that in mind here when 764 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,119 you're talking about who you pick. So yeah, I would take a stap 765 00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:15,679 chuck, but I don't. It's not like a ringing endorsement anyways. And 766 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,639 I'm not going to correct your Russian. But Klimovich has a great nickname called 767 00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:24,000 the klim Reaper. That's pretty great a stapchuck. Neither of these guys actually 768 00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:28,840 have a really good hockey prospect team. Both of them are basically graduated the 769 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920 model with zero percent chance of being a star, which is really rough. 770 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,360 A little bit decent on the NHL or probability, but still sub twenty percent, 771 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,679 so neither really great. I was looking for some reasonable comp for Zakop 772 00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:45,159 Statchuck, and the only one I came up with was Wayne Simmons. And 773 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,320 Wayne Simmons certainly tough guy, big body. Both these guys are big dudes, 774 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,800 and he was. Wayne Simmons obviously had some pretty good skill too, 775 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,800 and he was able to have some reasonable, reasonably productive seasons and maybe a 776 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,960 stop trup can get to that point. But I think that's a high end 777 00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:04,239 outcome the j fresh card. One percent chance of being a star, eight 778 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,679 percent chance of being NHLer. Pretty pretty graham there, Jessie. For the 779 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:15,280 guy that you might want to know a little bit about some brainer, Yeah 780 00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:20,239 that ironically, normally next would be our need to know. But this is 781 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,639 the wouldn't mind knowing about prospect? Who you got Victor? Yeah, this 782 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,519 is going to be Tyler Cleven. He is twenty twenty forty fourth overall pick, 783 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:34,199 six foot four two one pound. The first HL season this past year 784 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,719 with Belleville, he ended up with twenty one points in fifty three games for 785 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,920 the Senators the Belleville Senators three points in seven playoff games, so not bad, 786 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,920 close to half point per game for defenseman. Looking at his FHL player 787 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,760 card, pretty decent bash he hits and it hits a little bit more than 788 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,519 average. He shoots and blocks close to average, so he's going to be 789 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:58,920 just above average for BASH. But I think when his time on, when 790 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,559 he gets a little bit more comfortab professionally, I think he is going to 791 00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:05,559 actually be a pretty good bash guy. It's just the question of whether the 792 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:08,679 scoring will translate. He didn't have huge scoring numbers at the University of North 793 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,519 Dakota or the us NTDP, so he's never really been a big time scorer, 794 00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:15,239 which I guess is the issue here. If you're really hoping on that 795 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,559 to translate, it doesn't seem like it will. He might just be a 796 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:23,480 more play driving type of guy. Most of his underlying stats don't suggest he 797 00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:28,400 did really well in Belleville this year. Most of his puck battles, scoring 798 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,800 chances on entries, defensive game, it was all pretty below average. Maybe 799 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,320 he can turn that around in his second season. He definitely seems like he 800 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,480 needs at least one more HL season, But we'll see what happens. And 801 00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:44,440 let's hear a little bit more about Tyler Clevin from our FHL scout grant. 802 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,559 Maybe he's a little more optimistic skating for six four defender, Cleveland skates very 803 00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:52,440 well. He can join the rush, ship needed, activate from the point, 804 00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:54,880 get back to cover, can play either side on the defense if called 805 00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:01,079 for. Average skater in general, but above average or his passing and handling. 806 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:07,119 He has a crisp accurate breakout pass and makes the short passes well. 807 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,480 He is an average stick handler, but slightly above average as a passer, 808 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,599 shooting a heavy snap and wristshot which he can get off quickly from the point. 809 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,039 Iq good vision in all three zone scans. Frequently when going back on 810 00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:23,800 the puck, knows what he's going to do before he gets it. He 811 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:29,960 shows above average anticipation and can break up entries with his stick quite well. 812 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:34,079 He shows his low painic threshold with the puck in his own end, makes 813 00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:37,400 the correct play more often than not for checking. Does quite well in board 814 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:43,119 battles adept to keeping possession or moving the puck to a teammate. Clivin has 815 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,840 a very long reach and a good stick, which he gets into passing lanes 816 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:51,239 and breaking up zone entries. He has a good gap control and defensive awareness 817 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,000 in his own end, keeps his head on a swivel and is used on 818 00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:58,320 the penalty kill quite often. Needs to improve on his reaction time on plays 819 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,199 down low and behind the net. So the biggest asset was the defensive awareness, 820 00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:07,360 active stick composure. Biggest concern lack of offense and the physicality will go 821 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:15,079 down the top outcome the top role potential here, top four NHL defender who 822 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:19,360 can put up twenty to thirty points, one hundred hits, and one hundred 823 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,320 blocks while playing over twenty minutes a game. He's been a shutdown defender in 824 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,400 college, averaged twenty three to twenty four minutes and was an important penalty killer. 825 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480 Got limited pro experience at the age of twenty two. Might need another 826 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:36,920 year in THEA, but already has seventeen games in the NHL fiftieth percentile in 827 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,400 the sixth or seventh the EHL defender the floor is a twelve to fourteen minute 828 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,239 and that would be even if you lost half a step. He should make 829 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,679 it to this floor. He should get the opportunity and unless he has a 830 00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:52,320 confidence crisis, should be in an NHL defender on any team. Stylistic comparable 831 00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:58,760 and this is maybe a little bit higher than cleveland is rating here is Mattias 832 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,800 et colem and that would be pretty decent. So Tyler Cleven in Mason Black's 833 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,920 NHL ranking poll is up against Ryan o'brourke of the Minnesota Wild. I think 834 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:14,199 we talked about him on the Wild episode in fact, and Clevent wins that 835 00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:17,239 competition. Sixty two to thirty eight, Victor, is that what you're seeing? 836 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,719 Yeah, definitely. I really agree with a lot of the things that 837 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,360 were said there on the report by Grant. I do think that Clevin is 838 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,480 going to be a top four defender. I'm just not sure that he is 839 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,079 going to be a big point score. But as Grant mentioned, he is 840 00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:37,519 someone who is used to getting a lot of time on ice and I think 841 00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:43,639 that should continue. So even though I mentioned the rate stats for his periffs 842 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,079 were just above average, you multiply that by a lot of time on ice 843 00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:49,960 and you get some pretty decent numbers. So remember these are based on per 844 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,480 sixty. But when you get when you play twenty four to twenty five minutes 845 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:57,119 a night, which he might even in the NHL, or twenty two to 846 00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:00,000 twenty three, those numbers are going to be pretty good. So he's still 847 01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:01,320 should be pretty good for priffs. He should get a lot of time on 848 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:06,760 ice. He should be someone who is an NHL or Ryan O'Rourke. I 849 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,599 have liked Ryan O'Rourke is a good depth defender. He's pretty mobile. I 850 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,559 like his skating, his ability. He's a little bit smaller, he's six 851 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:15,559 to one, not small but I've liked him. He had a really good 852 01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:20,320 junior career with Sue. Right now he's playing in the OHL, sorry, 853 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,280 the AHL for the Iowa Wild and isn't scoring a lot but holding his own, 854 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:29,599 So I think he's someone who He's a Minnesota Wild prospect. By the 855 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,599 way, for those who maybe don't remember, he was a second round pick 856 01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:37,199 in twenty twenty. So O'Rourke I think is probably more like a five to 857 01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,679 six defender who scores even less than Clevin, and Clevin could be as high 858 01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:46,000 as top pairing or top four at least with pretty good priffs and also minimal 859 01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:49,920 scoring, but I think more than a work So I definitely would take him. 860 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,679 But again, these are more depth options in terms of conveying them to 861 01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:59,320 other players. One of the better comps that I saw here on Hockey Prospecting 862 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,960 is is Justin Hull, who is certainly not the most exciting defender, but 863 01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:07,679 is definitely an NHL or has some decent peripheral coverage. I think Cleven's upside 864 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,719 is even a little bit higher than Hull. We've seen Hull play a little 865 01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:14,000 bit high in the lineup, though maybe higher than he should have, but 866 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:17,840 that's I think Cleven can get a little bit more ice time, but that's 867 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,360 maybe similar to what you're looking for, and I should mention that in the 868 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,199 Hockey Prospecting model, both these guys, all these guys are pretty low. 869 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,119 Levin graduated with zero percent chance of being a star, seventeen percent chance of 870 01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:31,599 being an NHLer. I think he's definitely going to be in NHL, or 871 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,920 it's just the scoring is pretty low. Looking at the j Fresh model, 872 01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:39,239 zero percent chance of being a star, four percent chance of being an NHL 873 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:44,480 or very low on Tyler Cleven, Yeah, I think Grant played painted a 874 01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:49,000 little bit rosier a picture which I would agree with From a real NHLer perspective, 875 01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:52,480 I think the Senators should be pretty pleased with what they're getting in Clevin. 876 01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:55,079 I'm just not so sure that from a fantasy perspective you should be as 877 01:01:55,079 --> 01:02:00,639 excited and Victor. The third is the key half an eye on prospect who 878 01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:06,840 is that you might want to keep half an eye on a Roby Jarventi. 879 01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:12,320 He is a twenty twenty second round to pick thirty third overall six y two, 880 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,360 two hundred and fourteen pounds left wing, and he played his third HL 881 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,800 season twenty points in twenty two games was pretty solid production. This year, 882 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,599 he got seven games with the NHL Ottawa Senators. He had some injuries which 883 01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:30,039 limited him the rest of the action. Last couple seasons, he's been pretty 884 01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:34,960 good in the AHL as well, thirty points in forty games last season, 885 01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:39,159 so overall looking pretty solid. Looking at his FHL player card, you can 886 01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:42,880 see that he hits and shoots a fair amount, he doesn't really block a 887 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,400 lot, and his scoring is actually pretty solid for the league that he's in 888 01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:51,039 nine out of ten in terms of his point scoring. I looked at his 889 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,599 evolving hockey for his NHL games and it looked pretty low in terms of his 890 01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,440 expected goals for and against. But it's a really small sample size, so 891 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,199 not really sure what to say about that. But to learn a little bit 892 01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:07,840 more about Robi Orventi, we get to hear from our HL scout. That 893 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:13,679 is right, We got our FHL scout on Arobi. Here it is again 894 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,480 Grant and here's what he has to say on the skating. He watched Jarventi 895 01:03:17,639 --> 01:03:21,960 in pre season before twenty two to twenty three, thought the skating was a 896 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,760 little below average and lack the ability to get separation, but he thinks that 897 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,519 after twenty three twenty four, it's actually slightly above average now in terms of 898 01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:35,519 top speed average and acceleration, slightly below average in edges. In turns the 899 01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:39,079 bad news good news. Bad news is season ending knee surgery in February twenty 900 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:44,079 twenty four that had been ailing him for a few years, so maybe he'll 901 01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:47,840 come back stronger. Passing and handling, Jarventi has good hands in tight long 902 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,199 reach, and a good touch on his passes, whether fourhand or backhand. 903 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,360 He uses his size effectively to protect the puck while stick handling won't dangle through 904 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,239 a whole team, but he can certainly beat a defender one on one on 905 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,119 occasion. The shooting excellent one timer, which he uses on the power play, 906 01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:11,719 which reminds Grant of Elias Peterson. Has a nice wrist or snapshot and 907 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,880 can surprise goalies on the backhand now and then the IQ. He sees the 908 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,199 ice well both on offensive defense, and the puck seems to find him because 909 01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:23,960 of the size and long reach. He holds the puck well and is comfortable 910 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,920 with the puck at any spot on the ice for checking. Yarventi is strong 911 01:04:29,159 --> 01:04:32,400 and on his skates and uses his size well along the boards. As he 912 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,119 gets stronger and his confidence grows, he should win more puck battles than he 913 01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:42,000 loses defense. The play without the puck in his own end has improved quite 914 01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:45,559 a bit since he's been in North America, and he's learning to play in 915 01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,920 a role which might not be on the top line. He protects the area 916 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:53,039 between the face soft circles quite well and doesn't leave the zone early. But 917 01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:56,679 Grant thinks he's expanded his chances to play in the NHL to include all four 918 01:04:56,719 --> 01:05:00,199 lines, whereas before he thought he was top two lines or no. So 919 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,000 the best asset, the one timer, potential to score some power play goals 920 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,159 and bunches. With the size and skating, got the chance to be a 921 01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:12,119 center that thirty two teams are looking for. The biggest concern the injuries. 922 01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:15,480 He missed almost fifty games the last season over thirty the year before. His 923 01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:19,480 knee surgery. Could make his knee better, the lingering issues he's had, 924 01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:24,280 or it might be a concern on a yearly basis. So the top outcome 925 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,280 second line center. He's got the offensive capabilities to do that, but it'll 926 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,079 be the defense that will keep him there and the fiftieth percentile fourth line center 927 01:05:32,159 --> 01:05:36,679 in the NHL top six AHL forward. That's if he's forced to change his 928 01:05:36,719 --> 01:05:41,480 game away from carrying the puck to dumping and chasing in the corner, that 929 01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:45,119 could take him to a fourth line stylistic comparable. Boy, he loves the 930 01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:48,519 rists shot in the one timer again reminded him of Elias Petterson, but the 931 01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:56,400 skating in size remind him of Brock Nelson. So Robi Jarventi versus Noel Goomler 932 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,679 of the Carolina Hurricanes, what do we have here? Ruby Jarventi wins decisively, 933 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,280 sixty eight to thirty two percent. Victor, Is that how you see 934 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:12,000 it? Yeah? I do? I do. I think Jarventi has shown 935 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,320 a fair amount in the AHL the past couple of seasons. I like that 936 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:21,239 he's in North America, that he's had some NHL opportunity. We know we 937 01:06:21,239 --> 01:06:27,679 were hearing already the quality of the prospect system in Ottawa. It's not amazing. 938 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,880 We know that Carolina has a pretty deep system. That's where Noel Goudler 939 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,679 is and he hasn't really been showing out too well. He was someone drafted 940 01:06:35,719 --> 01:06:42,960 back in twenty twenty and in the second round. He's someone who I've always 941 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,840 been a little skeptical of because he plays a little bit more of a perimeter 942 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:53,559 game and he's struggled a little bit to translate into the SHL. And he 943 01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:57,440 came over to North America, Goodler did and didn't really show out too well. 944 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,199 Eighteen points in thirty one games for the Cogo Wolves last season, and 945 01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:04,800 then he went back to Europe this season and had eight points in twenty four 946 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,719 games for car Pott, who's a really good team. But I just don't 947 01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:11,440 know that it's ever going to really fully work out for Gundler, and his 948 01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:15,239 pinch ly has trended down to just two percent or sorry to eighteen nineteen p 949 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,360 n Chile, which is really low. Jarventi is up to forty four, 950 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,079 so I think it's a little bit better there. I think that he can 951 01:07:21,199 --> 01:07:25,360 has Grant mentioned he does have some pretty strong skills that he could leverage, 952 01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:28,480 so I like him a little bit better. In the hockey prospecting model, 953 01:07:28,519 --> 01:07:30,920 both these guys look pretty pretty bad. Zero percent chance of being a star, 954 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:36,639 thirty ish percent chance for Brventi to be an NHL or lower for Gundler, 955 01:07:38,239 --> 01:07:42,159 looking at some of the comps here, I think in Anthony Cirelli is 956 01:07:42,239 --> 01:07:45,960 maybe a high end outcome for Jrventi. Someone who's an average producer can have 957 01:07:46,039 --> 01:07:49,519 some decent production in the deep league. Maybe is interesting, certainly not for 958 01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:54,360 your more shallow leagues, but that's just where we are. Jarventi in the 959 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,559 FHL or sorry, in the j Fresh model, six percent chance of being 960 01:07:57,559 --> 01:08:00,280 a star fifty nine percent chance of being an NHL are So yeah, this 961 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:05,039 system is not great. There are some reasonable options if you're in a deep 962 01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:08,559 league, but no one likes super exciting. But on the other hand, 963 01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:13,679 a lot of their young ish players are in the NHL doing good things, 964 01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:15,840 so they have some pretty good young NHLers. Their prospect poll is just not 965 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,119 super exciting. That's it for this Autoa Center's dig. If you're a Patreon, 966 01:08:20,119 --> 01:08:23,680 you can listen to my top ten prospect recap, which I'll be doing. 967 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,560 I'll be starting once the draft happens in at the end of June, 968 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,880 and if you're just in doing some scouting with us, shoot me a DM 969 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,479 on Twitter, discord, or email us. We'll be right back to close 970 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:45,560 up the show. A couple of things, you know, what I'm going 971 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,000 to mention right now, you know, say it with me. Fan Tracks 972 01:08:49,079 --> 01:08:53,039 that's the place to play your leaks. They got ten different sports, the 973 01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:57,000 most options for scoring, salaries, contracts, You can do about anything you 974 01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:00,000 want on fan Tracks. In terms of setting up the league, I encourage 975 01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:04,640 you to try it if you haven't yet. Fantraks hq has lots of fantasy 976 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,640 content. There's articles on fantasy hockey and other fantasy sports. There. There's 977 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,439 a whole crew doing this thing that we call Fantasy Hockey Life. Content curator 978 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,760 Kevin Adams comes up huge helping out with show prep and the notes that we 979 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:24,399 have contributes a lot to that. We have the tidy leagues. We are 980 01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,600 currently in the mode of preparing for next year and we've got a whole crew 981 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,079 of commissions. Now we got Ryan Yes, but we also have Chimone, 982 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:38,000 timm Ay, and craftser who are all going to be a commissioner team for 983 01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:42,479 next year. Jeremy v is our lead scout and this is scouting season as 984 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,840 you know. Jason helps with our prospect ranks. Brandon is our website guru. 985 01:09:46,039 --> 01:09:51,680 A scout helps with the prospect ranks visualizations. Those FHL player cards. 986 01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:57,159 If you've got skills you'd like to lend the show, tell Victor. Victor 987 01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:00,720 would love to hear from you. I guarantee you and find him on the 988 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:05,399 discord on email Fantasy HOCKEYLFE at gmail dot com, or on x at Victor 989 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:11,880 Nuno twelve. You can get me on x at Fanhockey Life. We're also 990 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,399 brought to you by Dabra Hockey and Dauber Prospects. Victor is an editor there. 991 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,520 Follow us work as well as his other podcast, Dauber Prospects Report with 992 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:24,399 Peter Harling, where they are getting draft crazy right about the time you're listening 993 01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:28,399 to this. Be sure also to check out Victor's articles at EP Ringside. 994 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,560 He's part of the fantasy team there with Cam Robinson and Mike Clifford. I 995 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,600 do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk tons of different dynasty 996 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:41,399 sports multiple at the same time on some shows, sort of Dynasty theory because 997 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,319 it crosses over more than you would think. Rate and review this podcast on 998 01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:47,520 Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever else you get your pods. That would be 999 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:53,279 much appreciated because this time of year is sort of a low point for podcast 1000 01:10:53,399 --> 01:10:57,800 listening. On fantasy hockey. We are going strong right now because it's going 1001 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,039 to take a while to get all thirty two of these suckers ready. I 1002 01:11:01,079 --> 01:11:05,680 hope you enjoy today's talk on the Senators. Until next time, keep living 1003 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:11,960 that fantasy hockey life.