Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,
I'm forty. Go ahead, make my dad. Every single week,
I put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there
and laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't wanna
go out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football fun of everybody. I
think this at the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed
from yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the
same thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here.
You play to win the game. You don't play to just play it.
That's a great thing about sports. You play to win, and I don't
care if you don't have any wins. Do you go play to win?
When you start telling me it doesn't matter, I can retire, get out
for the matters. Oh Man, Does it matter that it's a Friday to
you? Oh? You bet it does. Man. Welcome to EXUS and
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on board on this Friday in early June. Tigers are home for six straight
now, starting tonight with the first to three against the Brewers. Deturch should
feel good going into this matchup because Rie Olsen Casey Mysteric School will start in
the series. Tiger's at five hundred, the Brewers are up five. I
believe in the National League Central Division. Although they are, they've they've had
some bumps in the road. To find me a baseball team outside of maybe
the Yankees that hasn't although the Yankees, remember remember Aaron Judge at the beginning
of the year, people were all over him because he was struggling a little
bit. The lead is four and a half, thank you. The lead
is four and a half for Milwaukee over chicag But Aaron Judge started out uh
humanlike and now Aaron Judge is just ripping the cover off the ball on a
regular basis and a massive reason why. I mean, the Yankees won again
yesterday they beat Minnesota eight to five. They are the best record in the
American League They've had the best record in the American League for a while.
Now they are the team to be. They've won eight in a row and
there are forty five wins overall. They're forty five victories on the seat and
our most in all of baseball. I think Philly was idol last night.
I'll tell you what's more important, more impressive. They And again I don't
know how much home field matters in the grand scheme of things. You know,
I've said this for a long time. Baseball is you know, you
get your last at bat? How is How's that a huge advantage? You
get the last at bat when you're at home. X ratings and stuff.
But if you've got a good closer on the opposite side, come on.
They've got twenty four wins at home. They're twenty four to eleven. They've
got more road winds then the White Sox have wins overall. The White Sox
have lost a franchise record fourteen in a row. They've got twenty four wins,
which is the roadwinds, same number as the Angels have overall. Yankees
have more road winds than Miami, more road winds than Colorado. Overall.
Colorado's got twenty two wins on the air. That's dominant, man, absolutely
dominant. So the Tigers and Brewers tonight NBA Finals last night, massive letdown
right, really psyched for this, been waiting a while, Boston's been waiting
ten days for crying out loud, really psyched for this. And then you
know, you watch Dallas jump out to a one point lead, but you're
thinking of yourself, so what right, what was it? Sixteen fifteen something
like that, and then the Celtics just blow them out of the water.
If you turned it off, and I get why you would. Dallas did
creep back in the third. They cut it to eight, they were down
twenty five, they cut it to eight, and then Boston calls the time
out and they're like, okay, let's regroup, let's refocus, and let's
do what we were doing earlier in the game. They go on a fourteen
nothing run, or maybe it was fourteen to two. Either way, it
was a dominant run. I said to you yesterday, I said, when
I brought up the article of the top fifteen players in this series, and
the webs one of the websites said it was Luka Dacic, and I thought,
I said, it's kind of easy to say that because he's a scorer
and it's kinetic energy. That's where we go to. We go to the
guys who score, right, we need to think differently, find the guys
who have the best overall game. This is where sometimes I get in trouble
and getting a little bit of a heated debate with colleagues of mine, because
I want the guys who are going to a bring it every night? Okay,
b who are I think super tough? Remember what Jim Leland said the
other day when we had him on our program a couple of days ago.
If you missed it, Jim Leland, when I asked him, how do
you you watch so many players? You're watching guys' stance, You're watching their
hands, You're watching their swing, You're watching their their power shift, you
watch how they feel, how they throw, all these different nuances and skill
sets of a specific athlete, in this case baseball. How do you determine
one guy from another? What are you looking for specifically that maybe we don't
see? And among other things, he was talking about toughness. All right,
you got to be mentally tough, physically tough for sure, but especially
mentally tough, and I hes felt like I mean with the Celtics. That's
why I said, I think Jalen Brown, who was the best player on
the floor last night's Jlen Brown. There's no doubt about that. Not because
he scored twenty two points. Christodd Porzingis had twenty off the bench. That's
a huge plus. We can talk about that a little bit later on.
But not just because he scored twenty two points. What about the pestering defense
that he played. Look how good he was at both ends of the floor.
I like Jason Tatum, he had a double double. He struggled with
his shot, But give me Jlen Brown. Man seven for twelve from the
floor, hit a couple of threes. It's terrible at the free throw line,
which surprised me. Had twenty two points to lead Boston, who had
a really balanced scoring attack. Six boards, a couple of assists, three
steals, three blocks, tied for the team leading blocks. Statistically, moving
forward, when teams are going well, one of the things you want to
look at assist to turnover ratio. Okay, Boston had twenty three assists twelve
turns. Dallas had nine assists eleven turns. Dallas had nine assists on thirty
five field goals made. In contrast, Boston had twenty three dimes on thirty
nine field goals made. That's a huge difference share the basketball. If you
were watching, Jason Kidd, the head coach of Dallas Mavericks, was kind
of miked up and said to his guys, hey man, we got to
move the ball. There's too much isoball too much. People try to do
it themselves. Luka Dancic shill let everybody with thirty And this is not a
It's not that I don't like Dancic. I've said he's got an incredible shot.
To me, Ben, you can tell me if you think completely different.
I think he looks a little heavy face, body doesn't look super toned.
I think the guy's an absolute siev defensively. I just don't like him
on defense. He seems to give up on plays. He seems to be
almost lack luster at times with a basketball. He's incredible talent. I'm an
unbelievable shooter. Just not a huge fan of his game. At the other
end, and that bothers me. Kyrie Irving was steimy too. We'll get
to that when we come back, got to hit a brake. It's ten
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he head coach Oakton University, gets a contract extension well deserved. He joins
us eight thirty five today. If you missed any of our conversation with Michael
Harra, who's retiring on Monday and has covered the Lions for decades and is
in the Michigan Sports Hall of Fame, we're going to play that at seven
eighteen seven to eight. Later on this morning, we were talking a little
bit about the NBA Finals. Just before the break. Kyrie Irving, who's
been a fantastic player who has admitted some of his mistakes. I don't know
about you, but I like athletes who are willing to say, you know
what, I'm I was wrong, I'm human. I wasn't my best self
in Boston. If I were a Boston Celtics fan, I sure wouldn't appreciate
him flipping me off if I were at the game and saying some of the
things that he said. So I get it. But he knew he was
wrong. He admitted it. How many of us are infallible? How many
of us have never been wrong? I mean, we may not always say
we're sorry or that we were wrong, which is one of our many,
you know, problems in life. People just have a hard time saying that.
But Kyrie Irving did that. He's willing to admit his mistake. Good
for him, But he wasn't very good yesterday. Twelve points and a career
low one assist. Game two is Sunday. That was a huge disappointment,
all right. A couple of other things. Adam hadwin and leads the first
run of the Memorial Cards sixty six six under sixty six. Scotti Scheffler is
a shot back at five hundred par four. Others sit at four under,
including Colin Morikawa and Xander Schaffley Egospia Tech. You may not know much about
women's tennis. I'm not asking you to do that, but I'll tell you
this. This young lady at twenty three years old is unbelievable. Like she's
just a minute big, she's just little, but man is she powerful.
Cocoa Goff is an excellent tennis player. She's ranked third in the world.
He gets Fiotec beat her in straight sets, no problem, and it's eleven
and one all time against her. You talked about ekryptonite. She's not won
twenty straight matches at Paris. She's probably going to win her third consecutive French
Open and fourth in the last five years. That's how dominant she's been on
clay. I want to get to this because I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
We might have to bring it up a little bit later on in the
show because the six hour, six o'clock hour doesn't get a ton of traction
unfortunately. But Dan Campbell said this the other day. Because the Lions continue
to do this the OTA, they've excused the veterans that the rookies are there.
They've got a couple more days, a few more days here this week
to try and get them a little bit more comfortable and understanding the schemes and
so on and so forth. He told the media about what his message to
his team is, and part of the message is, and it's dead on
right as usual with Dan Campbell. Here's what he said. I think,
just remember what we're playing for. I want, just each individual, what
do you want? What do you want out of this year? What do
you want to look like when we're sitting here and it's February? What's in
your mind? I want the whole Enchilada. I mean, obviously a super
Bowl. And most players are pretty open about it about with their coach,
but not necessarily publicly. Lions have talked openly about the super Bowl in the
smart How do you feel about that? Do you feel like it's the proverbial
cart before the horse. Campbell has said that he wants his team to think
backwards. He wants them to think super Bowl first. Remember how looked at
how strong they looked jumping out to a seventeen point lead in San Francisco in
the NFC Championship Game. You remember it so he's telling him work backwards,
start with a big picture of mine. Super Bowl fifty nine New Orleans,
recognize what it takes to get there, and then do it so often.
And I think perhaps we in Detroit do this as much as, if not
more than anybody as a belief, you have to experience something first before you
accomplish the goal. You have to experience almost heartache. It's a learning lesson.
We saw it with the Pistons, and this is where it kind of
forms within us. This is where we feel like, Okay, this is
the learning time for those individuals, and once they've learned this, now they'll
know how to scale the mountain. I just don't believe that. I really
don't, and I know there's examples of it. I want to know how
you feel about it. Here's part of the reason I say this. We
think, well, you tried. He had to learn a lesson against San
Francisco in the NFSC Championship Game, and that should help them help them.
What win the NFC Championship Game this year? Does that mean they have to
lose a Super Bowl in order for them to win a Super Bowl? Correct
me if I'm wrong, But the San Francisco forty nine ers didn't learn from
their Super Bowl loss a few years ago because they didn't beat Kansas City last
year. I just don't get it, and I think it's because our teams
have experienced something similar to that. I bring up the Pistons. Okay,
remember the Detroit Pistons winning their first championship. Maybe some of you are way
too young for that. I don't know. I remember it. I remember
it well, all right, Well, I also remember, you know what
it took to get there, the heartaches. But I also remember, Look,
not all those heartaches were rewarded soon thereafter. Right. Detroit's first championship
came in nineteen eighty nine. They had lost the finals the year before.
That was part of a huge run where Detroit made the postseason nine straight years,
right nineteen eighty four through nineteen ninety two. They losing the conference first
round in eighty four losing the conference semis. So you're thinking, I mean,
based on this logic, Okay, then next year we should get to
the conference finals. Right, Nope, losing round one. In nineteen eighty
six, back to the conference finals. Lost, Wait what about the learning
lesson? Then lost in the finals. Then won in the finals each of
the next two years, then lost in the Eastern Conference finals. Oh that's
when Chicago learned. Oh that's right. It's not always a progressive learning scale,
is kind of my point. Red Wings lost in ninety five to the
New Jersey Devils. What happened in ninety six? They didn't win the championship,
they didn't win the Stanley Cup. There's no guarantee. I want,
I want the Lions to kick that proverbial door down too. But there are
as many people think I'm not always a big believer in this either. There
are certain windows. I think there are best chances for teams, for sure,
but the window, I mean, if you believe in that for loop,
then that windows you better take advantage of it pretty quick. I just
don't believe in that hole. Okay, now we've gone through this. Now
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Kyrie, share with us what's you're feeling right now? Just your thoughts mentally?
How do you get yourself geared up for Game two? Just grateful for
the experience to get through game one, you know, just a lot of
emotions going into it and just waiting for the opportunity to get out there and
compete, you know, going against the great Celtics teams. So we just
had to get this one out the way, and we didn't perform the way
we would have wanted to tonight. You know, it starts with me just
being able to get out there and get us settled. I got to take
some accountability for it, just the communication and just going out there and getting
used to the way that the kind of environment was going to be. But
I think my teammates did a great job of staying together sticking to the game
plan. We obviously made some mistakes, like I said, but we gave
ourselves a chance in the second half, and we just got to continue to
do the right things and win the quarters as much as we can. They
came out and hit us in the mouth early, got the home crowd going
into it down seventeen in the first quarter. It's not really like us to
give up thirty seven points. It's happened to us before in the playoffs,
but we just wanted to make it a lot tougher on them, and they
hit a lot of threes, and again, when you get them rolling like
that, they play a very easy game the rest of the game, and
we just got to hit them in their mouth a little bit. They did
their job gain in game one, but we're going to take our lessons and
get ready for a good game too. Kyrie Irving after the one oh seven
eighty nine loss last night, Dallas's lowest output in the playoffs, very mature,
been there, done that, not worried type answer. Right, what
he said, this is what I've said for a long time, though,
I mean, we overuse the word great so often. He said, Now,
I thought my teammates did a great job. No they didn't. Your
teammates did. It's okay. I don't expect him to say my teammates did
a terrible job, but don't go there. You shot forty one percent from
the floor, actually forty one point seven percent. You made seven threes,
that's it. You had nine assists. That is not great. They haven't
done a great job at all. They didn't win one quarter they won,
Yeah, they didn't win a quarter, did they? Oh? The third?
Yeah, they outscored Boston by a point in the third. So I
personally, no, that's that's not great. But I understand, you know,
it's like it's it's kind of a trap that we all fall into to
a certain extent, So I get it. I thought, what was fascinating
to me is before the game, and this was I think it was yesterday,
maybe it was two days ago where Jason Tatum talked about the pressure.
During media availability on Wednesday, he was asked by members of the media about
the pressure, especially in Boston because you know they've got seventeen titles, right,
seventeen? Is there a different level of pressure? He said, oh,
absolutely, He said, in Boston, the only hang NBA championship banners.
It's not no disrespect to the Lions, but it's not Ford Field.
You're not hanging division championships and stuff. You hang championship banners. That's all
that matters, especially when you've done it as long as they've done it,
And he said some of the greatest players to ever play the game were the
uniform of the Boston Celtics. All of us are honored to follow in their
footsteps, the way they've paved for us to live out our dream. What
a great answer. You want to endear yourself to a fan base, talk
about the tradition, the respect, and the aura of wearing that same uniform.
Certain places you can't. You're not doing that yet in a place like
Oklahoma City, with all due respect, but when you've they tried to instill
that people new people to the organization has tried to do that with the Pistons.
This is what being a Piston means. But it hasn't been that way
for a long time. Right, look at the last five six years.
It's been really tough for you and I to swallow, hasn't it. Last
time they were at five hundred was twenty nineteen. Last time they were over
five hundred it was twenty sixteen. So very challenging for us. Right when
you're finishing five out of five in the division, five out of five,
five out of five, five out of five, four out of five.
That's why it's been the last five years horrific. Fourteen wins, seventeen wins,
twenty three wins, twenty wins, twenty wins. It doesn't work,
But in Boston, Jason Tatum company, you better embrace that. You better
understand the environment. So he said, if you want to be one of
the greats, to put on this uniform, every great before, you want
a championship. That's what we try and play for every single season. The
expectations are obviously different here. It takes special players to be here and to
be part of an environment like that, that's awesome. I flip and love
that, man, I do. I think it's so cool. Maybe it's
too much for some athletes, then you probably don't want them there. That
phrase, that statement got me so fired up when I read it, and
I thought to myself, damn it, that's how people should be in this
state. If you want to be one of the greats, to put on
this uniform every grape before you won a championship. That's what we try and
play for every single season. Now, you couldn't do that in Detroit.
Not every great player won a championship. So for example, with the Red
Wings, John O'grodnek was a hell of a player, didn't win a championship,
all right. Adam Oates was a hell of a player in Detroit,
although most of his career was in Washington. But you get my point.
He didn't win a championship. So you can't say that necessarily. But the
many of the greats, whether it be Gordy Howe or Ted Lindsay or Harry
Sachak or Steve Eisman or surrogate Federal for Brendan Shan and Nick Linstrom, they
did win championships. The greats for the Pistons, I know Dave Bing didn't
win one, didn't win with the Celtics, Bob Lanier didn't win one.
Grant Hill didn't win one. So that's unfortunate that that phrase wouldn't necessarily work
there wouldn't work with the Tigers either, But that's the standard that needs to
be set. Don't you think that's why this kind of goes full circle here?
That's why I like that. Dan Campbell said, let's think Super Bowl
backwards? What's wrong with that? This is not the Prince of Wales Trophy
where you're afraid to touch it after winning the conference championship. Let's go after
it. The expectations have to be different. What did I say yesterday?
If you were listening, I said, I am tired, just like you
are. I am tired of the word patience. We have said it after
so many different seasons, with so many different teams. To the Lion's credit,
they haven't said that. What look at look at the three teams that
have been out of the playoffs for a long time in Detroit, the Pistons.
What do we say, Well, you gotta be you gotta have patients
because you got a new owner, you got a new GM. Troy Weavers
coming in. Suddenly five years go by and nothing. Steve Eisman tells everybody
this is going to be a long process. Rebuilding is difficult. That's a
nice way of saying, we've got to be patient. Scott here said the
same thing, coming in. Got to be patient. Hey man, I
got news for all these people. The fan base has been patient. At
what point does it turn from the fans being patient to the organization raising expectations
because we're not seeing it right now and we deserve it. Why is it
that other teams? And look, if you think, boy, it's quite
a convenient argument, shop, quite a convenient argument considering the Celtics are in
the NBA finals. Maybe you're right about that. You know, maybe I'm
using this and quite out, but in fairness to me, I am using
it as part of the Lions conversation too. Granted they went to the NFC
Championship, but I'm using as part of that. But play why can the
Celtics make the playoffs every single year since twenty fifteen? They had a bump
in fourteen, They had made the playoffs seven previous years to that. You
know why? I know they haven't won on one NBA finals since two thousand
and eight. Anything as possible. Kevin Garnett, crap, It's a pretty
regular occurrence for that franchise. The expectations do not change. Why should the
expectations change in Detroit for any of their teams? Circumstances can be different.
Absolutely, stan Van Gundy screwed things up absolutely. Troy Weaver wasn't any better.
Absolutely, end of his tenure. Ken Howland struggled absolutely, although he's
got his team in the Stanley Cup finals. I get all that, I
really do. I understand that Alavila made some horrible trades. Where does the
expectation start? Ownership, front office, fans, all the above. We've
settled. Can we just be honest here? We have settled. There's too
many times, and I can be just as guilty, all right, So
I'm not gonna sit here and throw any talk show host or any commentator,
or any anchor or any pregame hosts. I'm not gonna throw anybody under the
bus because I've been as guilty as anybody. We have settled for complete mediocrity.
I got in truck. I said this a couple of years ago when
the Tigers season ended, and my partner said, We've got to be patient,
and I said, I am tired of that. Haven't won a championship
since nineteen eighty four, Folks, they're going to celebrate forty flipping years of
that, and we're going to sit here and constantly tell it, try to
tell fans about how great this player may be when he's not he's average at
best, or how we have to be patient again because you've got to let
young guys develop. It's such I'm so tired of it. I'm so tired
of talking about an NBA finals where you got the Boston Celtics in it.
Again. They were just in the finals three years ago, you know that,
right, or two years ago? I'm sorry, conference finals. Won
the conference finals this year, lost in the conference finals last year, lost
in the finals the year before. They were in the conference finals four years
ago. Meanwhile, the Pistons aren't doing Diddley squad and we're saying, well,
we just got to be patient. Now Trajan Lanning times comes in,
Oh, we got to be patient with that now too. We're resetting the
clock on a regular basis. Why do we do that? Is it reality?
I'm not claiming to know what we can do about it. I'm not
telling you not to go to games. That's one of my favorite things.
You know, you got hostschool out there and go You know what, you
guys are idiots? What are you going to games for? Hey, screw
you. People want to go see a baseball game, Let me go see
a baseball game. You want to go see a basketball game, go ahead.
You can go to a game. You could support your team and still
be upset at how that team goes about its business. You're only going to
go to a game when your team is winning, when you feel like it's
doing the right thing. Now, I wouldn't buy season tickets if they're constantly
spitting in your face. But who says you can't go to a game.
Who says you shouldn't go to a game. Who says you shouldn't root for
that team even though that team is less than subpar, not doing what they're
supposed to be doing. But the bar do you guys remember when Martin Morningway
came in and was the head coach of the Alliance. Man, what a
disaster, Oh god, what a disaster. One of the things what he
say the bar is high used to make fun of him for saying that.
But I understood his point. He said the bar is high now it ended
up being very very low for him. Didn't know what the hell he was
doing. Another example of an alliance coach failed, never went on to be
another head coach coordinator. Yes, coach, Oh, Dick, J're on
the last one, I believe right. Yes. So when you sit there
and you look at this and you listen to his words, you're laughing at
it. We laughed at him, We made fun of him. I was
part of it. We all made fun of him. Guess what, he
was right, The bar has to be high now. He couldn't reach it
because he wasn't good enough. His front office wasn't good enough, his players
weren't good enough. He couldn't overcome it. I don't think he was a
very good coach at all. However, the message was the right message.
Dan Campbell's message doesn't have the cliche, but the Dan Campbell message is dead
on. Think super Bowl, expect it. Now? What are you going
to do to go about and get it? We need more of that and
if you fall short, then so be it. You can't take people's ridicule
at the end of a season because they're going you thought you were going to
get to the super Bowl. You didn't even win the division. That has
to be the mindset. Don't tell me there's an athlete or a coach,
a manager, or a GM who goes into season says, well, we're
going to suck this year. That reality may slap you in the face at
some point, but you can't have that mindset going in, at least I
hope you wouldn't. If your expectations for the Tigers for thirty one and thirty
one after sixty two games, shame on you if you're part of the organization,
is what I'm saying. I said at the beginning of the year,
this team should be good. Note the word should. This team should should
be good, and this team should win the division. That's the expectation I
said last year, or before the red Wing season was over, this team
should make the playoffs. They didn't. I think I think they failed.
I think it's a failure. I can be realistic, too, I'm very
realistic. If you're down in Miami the Marlins, the expectations are not there,
but damn we sit there and we act like patience is fine. We'll
complain about it a lot, but then We'll get out here and as a
host with a microphone, we'll sit there and try to convince you, well,
you got to be patient, oh bull roar, get after it.
Raise the expectation level of your organization. Understand what it takes to win.
Understand that things can happen, like injuries, for example, guys having off
seasons. I get all that, But the expectations have to change. Man.
You've got to raise the bar for this state and for this team.
This is not a John Jonathan Smith type situation where he comes in brand new
to Michigan State and you think they're going to win the Big Ten. That's
not that's not realistic. It's not You can change those expectations a little bit
later on, a couple of years from now, but not this year.
We're sitting here every single year the word patients. It gets old. I'm
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