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right, Jack's not really a subject matter expert on anything really, but we
have him here that we're going to run down a bunch of like stories going
on right now. First and foremost, the big news from the weekend was
the idea of hostage rescue and Gaza. You know, that was a big
one. Supposedly over two hundred terrorists if you're listening to the IDEF were killed
during this and four hostages were rescue, right, yeah, yeah, Jack,
What do you got on that? Tell me everything? You know?
I mean, what I'll say this much is you know, I spoke to
a source this week and he confirmed that this was a Israeli unilateral operation.
There was really no American military or intelligence support for it at all, So
they did this one on their own targeted counter terrorism hostage rescue mission. I
went in and pulled out four hostages from Gaza, and you know, there
are some differing perspectives of course, as as everything in this conflict. And
you know, the the Gaza health ministry said, yeah, I think they
did. I think they It is confirmed they did a bunch of air strikes
to support their withdraw out. And now it's going to be contentious of like
how many people died in those air strikes, and I think the Israeli government
has even said there have been some collateral damage, is it like two hundred
and seventy four civilians the way the Gaza Health Ministry says, I don't,
I don't know. I'd maybe take with a little bit of grain of salt
on that. And then the other interesting thing is the Palestinians are saying that
they that the Israelis used some deception tactics to come in using an AID vehicle,
ostensibly to infiltrate closer to the target area. There were other reports,
I think it might have been even in an Israeli newspaper reported that some of
the operators posed as Palestinian refugees, like they were internally displaced people, you
know, posing as them moving from one place, one town to the next
as a way to get closer to the target area with while being undetected.
And I'm not sure if it's true or not. You know, the some
of the people are saying that they posed as as Aid relief workers because you
know, and that would be probably illegal if they did that. If you
recall back in the day, like what was it, two thousand and eight
when the Colombians rescued American hostages that were held by Fark the helicopter, And
I mean there was a deception operation that they were you know, first they
were Red crossworkers and that turned into a bit of a controversy. So but
I mean, now there's also some video footage, some helmet cam footage that
the Israelis have released, and when they show the operators moving up to the
target structure, I mean they're weren't, like full battle rattle, clearly identified
as Israeli soldiers, So that would negate the idea that they were like in
disguise as they got closer. But it's possible that two things happened. That
a reconnaissance element came in close undercover, and then the assault element rolled in
behind them. I mean, there's a number of different things, and whenever
you talk about military operations, the devil's always in the details. And I
won't claim that I know all of them on this particular mission. So speaking
of that helmet cam footage, I only saw a little piece of it.
But did they engage anyone on the target, any bad guys on the target?
It didn't look like from what I saw, look like they literally rolled
in, rolled into the room and grabbed them. Yeah, I mean,
and that could be because the camera footage was edited, possibly by by the
Israeli authorities, either censorship or they don't want to show something that's particularly gruesome.
I don't know. Yeah, just totally speculating. It's hard to believe
that they didn't receive or engage enemy as they as they rescued the hostages.
You can hear in the footage like a hell of a lot of incoming fire.
I mean, there's a firefight breaking out all around them. Okay,
cool? Cool? So and I did I read I think it was in
when you were around with Ward Carroll that all four were from the same they
all four of the hostages were from that music festival. I believe they were.
I believe, Okay, because the one girl I recognized from when it
first happened October seventh or the eighth. The next day when they were throwing
video her picture like of her being taken away, I guess. And a
currently the mission commander was wounded on the objective and passed away when to the
hospital. So yeah, they lost apparently they lost one officer during the during
the raid. Gotcha, It's crazy. I can imagine I was trying to
think of it from an intel point of view, how they prepped that target.
You know, if I was an intel officer, I'd be you know,
on the toop, I'd definitely be talking to assets who were in live
in the area, or you know, are familiar with that area. You
know, what do they know about where they're being held? Is it are
they actually there? How many bad guys are there? That sort of thing.
So that must have been a I'm curious to know, and I don't
know that we ever will how long the preparation for this took or was it?
Hey, this is the intel we have where they are, go get
them? Yeah, I mean the operation. I hate to use the word
complex city it's overused. These operations are difficult and complex, right, and
any kind of hostage rescue usually is so. From what we do know,
I mean, it's clear that a fair amount of planning went into this thing.
And as you point out, any hostage rescue operation requires a high level
of intelligence to be successful, to do a surgical raid. Gotcha. Now,
is there any indication of like TFO or RC or NSA like helping in
terms of like intel not on this one. Okay, Now, the fact
that it was done during the daylight, you think that indicates it's one of
those hey in extremists, we go now, because normally this would be done
at night, right, Yeah, especially when you're bringing in birds for the
ex filtration, you'd want to do that under the cover of darkness. So
I don't know why the decision was made to do it during daylight as opposed
to at night. And they but obviously they felt that they had a high
confidence of success. Maybe, yeah, you point out it. I mean
it could be like part of you know, what you'd sometimes call an emergency
assault plan, like the hostages are about to be killed or executed or something,
so you go in and do the assault because it's least, you know,
it's worst case scenario. But no, I don't really know what led
into the decision to do this during hours of daylight. And sorry to keep
peppering you with this stuff, but I'll keep it up keep with the exception
of the loss of the commander or rest in peace. Do you know of
any huge hiccups that happened. I think you said something about a vehicle.
Yeah, there was again a report that one of the Xville vehicles got stuck
on the way out. You know that they had either got stuck in a
pothole or mechanical problems. I don't know what the what the issue was,
so they had that on the way out. Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha.
I would ask see if he's got anything, but he fell asleep. No,
sorry, I'm looking at another story. Yeah. Yeah, well,
I mean, so that's four, you know who have been recovered. They
looked relatively healthy in the video that I saw as for you know, healthy
for what they'd been through. So yeah, or yeah, I'm hoping that
you know, they can get the rest or at least get some word on
the rest. So I would think after this that Hamas would probably shuffle these
folks around from wherever they were to other spots, you know, to try
to prevent this happening again. Yeah, I mean, And the interesting thing
is when they do that, it opens up more opportunities potentially to detect the
hostages being moved. And sometimes that's a part of the plan too, Like
your hope, you're doing something, hoping that the bad guys are going to
get on cell phones and start blabbing their mouths about what's going on and say
hey, Akmed, We're going to move the hostages over to you know this
street now, and you know that, and that opens up other doors,
other opportunities for you to get people back. Absolutely. Yeah. I was
actually one of my first thoughts when I saw it was like an apartment building
or something, was wouldn't it be better for the bad guys keep them underground?
If there's such a you know, a huge network underground, then why
keep them there unless they were in the process of moving them from one spot
to another and just stuck them there. Yeah, And I mean there's a
couple of different things, and it's all speculation, of course, but it
could be that someone has to take care of the hostages and there's like a
there's like a sort of ratio that you need like two people to take care
of ten hostages or four people, because you have to have people guarding them
at all times and bringing them food and stuff like that. And you know,
so if you're keeping the hostages down in tunnels, then you have to
have you know, either hamas members or auxiliaries that are caretakers of the hostages
and keeping them alive. And I mean, yeah, are are those people
gonna live in tunnels or are they gonna live in houses? Right, So
it's like a question of like where are you gonna have and then also as
you know, the difficulty in moving the hostages around, and then maybe it
has something to do with some of the tunnels being destroyed as well. Yeah,
what's ballpark? Like? How many hostages are left? Over one hundred?
Over a hundred? Yeah, like confirmed alive or we don't know,
like mostly not confirmed publicly. Yeah, all right, h next story,
I wanted to talk about wash the top hasible, a commander and three operatives
killed in South and Southern Lebanon yesterday by an Israeli strike. Talib Abdullah is
the most senior member of the Lebanese terror group to be killed in eight months
of deadly border fighting with Israel, and in return, eighty rockets were fired
at the North on Tuesday. What do we got cooking with that? Jack
thoughts, Well, I mean not really. I mean it's the continuation of
this conflict and you know it's I think Milbourne laid out maybe the last time
we talked about how there's this sort of like tit for tat, like you
do something, We're going to do something, and it's all sort of like
part of it is a little bit of a stage play. I don't I
hate to say that because people get killed, but it's like the Israelis do
something they know to keep their credibility. Hamas has to lob some rockets back
at them, and so it's this sort of like almost arrangement, the facto
arrangement dot that exists, but you're having you are you know. The problem
is there's this increased drum beats towards war in Lebanon with Hezbollah, and that
opens up essentially a new military front in this conflict and and escalates the chances
of this conflict expanding into something much larger. Yeah, I don't know if
not necessarily can afford it, but wants that right now. They got enough
shit going on. I mean they're I think they're overwhelmed by what's going on
in Guys. I can't see like how they're going to fight a two front
conflict. Absolutely, what else we got d you were talking about Poland before,
Yeah, we'll get to that one last. I mean this one that
happened yesterday also was uh, this is more domestic. I guess eight suspected
terrorists with possible Isis ties arrested in New York, LA and Philly. The
men from Tajikistan came came through the US southern border and their criminal background checks
came back clean at the time they crossed, but they ended up getting swept
up here in America, which is kind of scary. So they came across
the border legally, yeah, yeah, one actually even used that like one
border app or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, for asylum and yeah,
everybody they all checked out clean. So it's scary, Like you were
just saying, I mean, nobody can argue, Hey, we knew they
were criminals. You know, why do we let them in. They did
it technically the way they were supposed to do it, and they made it
in And this didn't I know that. The article I think came out yesterday,
but this is like months. As soon as they got into the country,
they were under observation, they were being surveilled and checks were done on
them. So then it was a multi state operation was put together to round
these guys up. I think it was one guy who actually wasn't one of
the original group, someone that they hooked up with had been on their FBI's
radar as well. So when the two met the the that group and then
this one guy that was what the catalyst was, It's like, okay,
round him up. Wow, is there anything? Has anything come out about
like what the plot was or how far along it was. I haven't seen
anything. I'm gonna keep reaching out to my context about it, but I
haven't seen anything about what the plot was. I'm very interested because you know
that they came across the border, you know, and and there is obviously
border security issues that we need to figure out and resolve. But we really
haven't seen terrorists infiltrating by coming across the southern border. There's always been fears
of it, you know, sometimes paranoia, but I don't think we've seen
an actual terror plot come across the southern border until now. Yeah. Yeah,
Well, despite what people are screaming, you know that every one coming
across as a terrorists now and there whoever sent them, because I'm sure it
wasn't just random h was smart enough to send one who don't. They have
a clean record, you know, so they get in the way that you
quote unquote should get in, and once they're here then they can collect and
you know, pop off whatever they're planning. But thank god, I mean,
I hate to say it, but the fact that the key factors where
they were coming from, their countries of origin, played a big role in
them being profiled, for lack of a better term, and in this case
it paid off. Not saying that everyone that comes from Syria, you know,
Iraq or and whatever is is has nefarious intentions, but that I'm sure
has had a big part in playing our big part in the fact that they
were being surveiled afterwards at once they made it into the country. Yeah,
so these guys, these guys are from Tajikistan to jikits In. Yeah,
even then, I mean, yeah, that's just probably enough to say,
Okay, let's keep an eye on these guys, you know, and sometimes
they're already here, you know. And this is not a terror plot thing.
But Jack, you remember, I want to say, it was back
in two thousand and ten or so, we had that big spate of Afghan
students that were down at Fort I think it was Fort Bragg or Deadning and
they just kept just walk off the base and disappear. I mean, some
of those still haven't been rounded up, so who knows. I'm sure they
turn up at a strip club at Fort Larderdale or something like that. And
I'm sure most in most cases it's not a terror plot. It's just a
case of I don't want to go back. But there was that one case
you remember a few years back to Saudi. It was a yeah, student
on a military base who was down in Pensacola. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, so you just you never know, never know, yeah,
and then uh you may have. I don't know if you talked about this
on Teamhouse, the shooting down at Fort Bragg, the Russian, Russian,
Russian, I think right, catch it? Yeah, the contractor for that
energy company, the telecom company, Telecom, Yeah, some crazy Yeah.
I know. I don't know everything about what happened there or by any means,
I know a few things or some interesting details. I'm interested to see
how all that pans out, if that guy really had some sort of nefarious
intentions or was he just a Telecom employee, Because the the employer put out
like a press release like you know, we stand behind our boy. He's
going to be exonerated in court. All this like that's not something an intelligence
platform does, right, Like they would just pull a fade and disappear out
of America. Yeah, like you don't. You're you're not going to court
and batting for your your dead asset. It doesn't work like that. Absolutely.
Yeah. And then when I saw when I first was reading the article
and I saw the company was out in New Jersey, I was like,
God, damn it Jersey again. Yeah, we did it again. Yeah,
but that's some crazy. I mean, it happened at night, right
if I remember, or in the evening does it was still light out,
but it was like almost it was the sun was setting, gotcha. Yeah,
I mean it's tough. You see somebody taking pictures. Your kids are
in the area. Now, this is based on what I've read. You
know, kids are in the area. It's kind of hokey to you.
I'm not sure where it turned violent. I heard that it turned violent or
escalated before the shooting. But yeah, it's it's uh, it is.
It's weird. There's a lot of details I don't think we're getting. Yeah,
there's there's some interesting stuff there as far as on the military side that
I'll tell you guys after we finished doing the show. I'm not going to
say it publicly, yeah, because I also I don't I'm not going to
publicly identify that army officer at this time, and you know he deserves a
chance to be you know, cleared in court as well. Yeah right,
yeah, you got to assume this guy was highly trained, and like this
probably isn't the route if you're getting surveilled for real, it's to just no,
it's not I'm not an expert, but it's not what they're trained to
do either, right, yeah, they're not trained. Like if you're under
surveillance, you're not supposed to go and confront the vice team and absolutely not
right, yeah, that's not in the farm handbook. And even and this
this this army officer is a farm trained case officer as oh really yes,
oh man, see yeah, and we're absolutely even if you're in a vehicle,
you're running an SDR and you think that you're covered, you're not doing
that, Hollywood, let me hook this first, right then flip a uie,
let me do that. That's at you would do that, But that
is it's your last point before you make it. It's your last decision point.
You you can go into like one a neighborhood where you know there's only
one way in, one way out, start flipping UI's and stuff like that.
Aggressively. It's called going aggressive. But you're not doing that right off
the bat, because now you've just told whoever's following you, okay, this
person has something to hide, you know. So you know, I've I've
been doing some research for a separate a separate story. And you know,
the FBI interestingly has a unit that specializes in this that like if you're an
FBI agent or it could be requested from another governmental agency and like you're under
surveillance, you have an active threat, like Iranians are parked outside in front
of your house. This like FBI van with a bunch of dudes with MP
five's will pull up and just like rip dudes out of their cars. They
don't like it. It's it's specifically for active threats, and from what I
understand, these dudes do not fuck around at all. Yeah, yeah,
I mean let them do it, you know, you bet it's in Oh
my god, what's happening? You know? But let them do that shit?
Crazy jack, You got anything? Tell me, Tell me what are
you, what are you working on? Give us everything. So Sean Naylor,
who you know, I work on this on the high side with on
this this National Security News outlet. He's working on this story about a legendary
CIA officer who was a Green Beret in Vietnam has a Distinguished Service Cross that
may be upgraded to a Medal of Honor potentially, So that's in the works
right now. I'm working on a story about Havana syndrome and I'm pretty deep
into it and I've spoken to a lot of the I'm really interested in speaking
to the original people in Havanah who were hit, and I've talked to a
number of them and I'm going to talk to another one shortly. And I've
been talking to a lot of the doctors, a lot of the like CIA
doctors, and like these are like really interesting people. They're like practicing doctors
that see patients but also have a top secret clearance and consult with the White
House and with the CIA. I'mlike, you know, cbr N threats and
stuff like this. Like it's very very interesting stuff. So I'm working on
that article right now, and once that's done, Yeah, there's some other
interesting stuff that I think Sean and I are going to move on to.
Well. I'm definitely looking forward to the Medal of Honor article. Because as
you know, he was a mentor of mine, really really good guy.
Check out the High Side. The link is in the description Jack and Sean
Naylor, you know, the guy who actually wrote the book on Jaysack.
Yeah. Yeah, So can I ask this then about the without you giving
away anything about the Havana syndrome thing. Are crickets involved, because that's what
I'm reading, I'm hearing like crickets or beetles or some that was Yeah,
that that was one of the things that I think Jason group trotted out there,
that these guys were just hearing crickets. That was ruled out pretty early
on in this in the investigation. And obviously the inner ear damage and the
damage done to the cerebellum that's detectable and has been detected in in different kinds
of There's different types as I've learned of functional magnetic resonance imagery. One of
them is called full body I believe f MRI I, and so there's different
types that look at the brain. But what I'm getting at is that between
that and also the blood marker bio biomarker indicators that indicators of TBI, there's
quite a bit of physical evidence that these people were hurt by something, and
you know, obviously crickets are not going to cause inner ear damage or damage
to your Sarahbellum, Yeah, yeah, I saw that and I was like,
wait, well, I mean I'm no medical person or scientists, but
I'm like, damn, they gotta train crickets against this crazy Yeah. Some
of the other stuff people have been freaking out about is that Russian flotilla that's
like off the coast of Florida heading to Cuba. There was a lot of
like Twitter chatter, like standoff between Russian and US. You know. Meanwhile,
it's probably at this point, probably more than three a quarter of the
Russian navy is literally going to Cube because they're so right. Yah, I
mean, look, Russia is not a credible threat. Like, they're not
a credible military threat to US. I'm sorry, they posed us a significant
counterintelligence threat, maybe even you know, if they decided to conduct acts of
sabotage against the United States or something something along those lines. But like it's
the Russian maybe going to come in bombard Tampa or something. I don't think
yeah, they're going to come in pound Key West. Yeah, oh man,
Yeah, I think they're just trying to They're just flexing what little muscle
they have, you know, because I think was it Putin that had said,
you know, we're we're willing to arm you are enemies America's enemies,
you know, against them, and people were throwing up headlines it's another Cuban
missile crisis, blah blah blah. I just don't see it. They already
arm our enemies against us, and our other enemies are arming Russia against us.
So it's like, what changes. Yeah, Like if you want to
use have some sort of like use a threat, you have to have leverage,
and like you don't have leverage when you're threatening to do something you've always
been doing anywhere. Yeah, exactly doesn't make sense. Yeah, oh man,
what else you got? The guys are really running me ragged today.
Uh. I mean it's more about the uh you know, polling, rounding
up a bunch of like Russian agents, I would say, because a lot
of them are I guess dual national, like you know, Polish and Russian
citizens, so you know, just running sabotage operations. I mean, the
Poles are probably super busy doing this. It's probably a big factor and like
a big thing on what they're looking at. I'm sure they're using a bunch
of bandwidth to try and stop it, because yeah, I mean, they
got a lot of stake, you know. And when it's internal. To
me, I've always thought that that was the biggest issue. You know,
it wasn't Russia, it wasn't China. It's always to me, it's internally
whatever. You know, that guy that you see every day at the gate,
you show your ID two, you know where it is. Loyalties lie.
Not that we should be, you know, paranoid about everyone, but
that to me is the biggest threat because that is what lulls us to sleep,
you know. And so you have these dual nationals who have competing loyalties,
and that's when shit like this happens, sabotage or you know, like
or even it's not even necessary dual nationals. It's one who get caught up
in this uh YouTube TikTok snatch at whatever stuff, and they see all these
propaganda videos and then they start sympathizing and next thing, you know, like
that British officer, they're handing over secrets. The The interesting thing that I
haven't really seen anyone put together in the media, is that you know,
there's sort of a global game, a global shadow war going on in that
you saw all these acts of sabotage in Russia, mysterious fires and explosions.
Who's doing that, I don't know. And now you're seeing stuff starting to
happen in Eastern Europe. And you also have to factor the nord Stream.
We still don't really know what happened there. You have to factor that into
it. Like each act of sabotage carries with it an implied message to the
people who are being sabotaged that you're under threat. We can get to you,
and we can strike you harder in the future. And I think it's
very interesting to look at how, you know, all these acts of sabotage
happened right when Russia invaded Ukraine. In Russia, all these sabotage acts in
Russia, they seem to have dwindled off, and one could speculate that it's
because the sleeper cells are either running out of demo in their cachet site locations,
or they have had they've been rolled up by Russian authorities, or they
were compromised enough that they have to clear the country and get out of there
and now. But here we are a couple of years later, and all
of a sudden, you're starting to see this escalation and acts of sabotage and
poland why is that? And why now? And I think that you have
to see its like is this retaliation for that? Yeah, like you did
it to us. It took us a couple of years to build up the
intelligence infrastructure in your country to conduct these acts of sabotage. Now that we've
built it up, we're going to start doing it. Yeah, makes sense.
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I'm speculating a bit here,
but I mean I don't think it's totally irrational to view it in that lens.
Absolutely, And why wouldn't you want to divert attention and stow fear,
you know in countries that are not directly involved in Ukraine or the conflict but
border it, or you know, of sending equipment or something like that,
because now you have the ripple effect of not only generating fear, but you
could generate sympathy against the war. You know, people are saying, you
know, look, this has happened in US because you guys are giving them
tanks. You know, that sort of things, though there's definitely second and
third order effect. Is there a possibility of how high is that threat in
terms of sabotage and arson, like for our factories like in Scranton and the
one that they're building in Dallas, for the one hundred and fifty five millimeter
shells that are like obviously like gold there. It exists, And I mean,
I don't know, really, Jason. I mean, maybe you can
comment on the security and the counterintelligence around those facilities. But I think there's
there's a great book that I've recommended in the past. I think it's called
Burn, Bomb, and Destroy, and it's about the German sabotage campaign in
the United States one hundred years ago, and they were blowing up AMMO dumps,
they were putting incendiary charges on ships that were bringing supplies over to Europe.
I mean, it's very interesting to see how that campaign was run in
the United States back then. Yeah, I mean, yeah, So,
I mean these people are vetted, the people who work there secure whatever it
is they're vetted. I don't know what the exact process is, but I'm
sure that they go through a pretty extensive background check, and you know,
all those other things but again this is me harping on the insider threat.
But you could get through Scott three free, like these guys that came across
the border. You get through Scott free, and then you're working there for
two years or whatever, and you start falling on hard times financially, you're
going through divorce, whatever it is. And you know, the Russians,
the Chinese, whoever it is, takes note of that stuff because they are
watching these people and approaches. Hey, we got the solution your problems.
All we need you to do is ABC, you know. So it could
be that everybody, all one hundred people who work there are vetted. Fine,
but all it takes is one bad day, one bad you know,
a Hanson type thing where you know your your finances are going to shit,
your marriage is going to shit, all the perfect storm. And yeah,
I don't necessarily see it coming from the outside. I could see it coming
from the inside if it was going to happen here. And that all of
that takes like some deliberate targeting by foreign intelligence services. Like that's not something
that like these like Tajeeky's are going to throw together, right, Yeah,
So I mean it's just worthwhile to point out that, you know, you
would you'd have to specifically target the facility and the people who work there and
spot and assess them. And it would require the Russians to infiltrate competent trained
like tradecraft trained intelligence officers into the United States. Absolutely, yeah, yeah,
this is not a some guy sitting in his basement, you know,
I'll show them kind of thing, especially from the outside, like not somebody
let's just say in Ohio, you know some guy who's like, you know,
fuck the government, I'm just gonna build this thing and toss it over
the fence kind of thing, because he's going to get shot. Where As
someone who is targeted, who has knowledge and ability to get into these facilities,
they're targeted, and it would be a month, sometimes year's operation to
for a foreign intelligence service to target that person work them up. Because this
is the United States, whether you know, for better or worse, people
are pretty much loyal at the end. At the end of the day.
We're a little less averse to saying, Okay, Ivan, you know,
give me two thousand dollars, I'll do this, which is going to cost
my life probably. So it's probably months or years to bring that person around
to even considering doing an act of sabotage. You know, it's one thing
that insert a computer virus than it is to plan a bomb. So it's
I mean, on that note, I mean it's it's actually pretty interesting the
security we have around our nuclear infrastructure in this country. I probably shouldn't go
into too much detail, but I know of one facility in particular that like
they even wargamed, like what if the IRGC parachuted a battalion of Iranians in
here, could we defend against it? And like it does that facility does
have to be able to defend against it. So there's some pretty interesting stuff
that goes on there. And we do have special ops guys who read team
those facilities to see, you know, is it possible to sneak in there?
Is it possible to assault the facility? All that kind of contingencies are
wargamed. Yeah, I was in a nuclear security before I went to the
agency, and you're absolutely right there. I don't know if they don't call
them CAF teams, but they are SF some former, some current who and
they take some of the security team from each facility and train them as well,
just so you have that insider thing and they run war games all the
time live and tabletop yep. Yeah, scary shit. You got to assume
nowadays too, like the cyber threats, just as or even more you know
of a threat than the physical threat of it. Absolutely, you know,
hopefully are pouring money into that. Yeah yeah, I definitely can't speak to
that. I barely turned this computer on, but yeah, yeah, but
again, people are you know, we get so hyped up on even when
it comes to cyber threats. Hey, shutting down a centrifuges or something like
that. That could be something as simple as inviting a program into the system
that shuts down production of a small part for f thirty fives or something like
that. You know, it doesn't have to be huge. Yeah. Yeah,
Poisoning the supply chain is like a huge thing, and it's something that
our intelligence community looks at doing to the enemy as well to allies. Absolutely.
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