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Hello, everybody, 10 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:44.520 welcome to another episode of eyes On. I'm your host. I'm not 11 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.960 the host, but my name is Dimitri. We got Jason the accent. 12 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:52.679 Hello everyone, Welcome to another episode of eyes On. I'm your host, 13 00:00:52.719 --> 00:01:00.320 Andy Milbourn Milbourn, I'm Jason Lyons, and I'm Jack Murphy. Jack Murphy, 14 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.479 the esteem journalist, host of the Teamhouse podcast, our dear leader, 15 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:08.719 renowned, infamous. Choose Choose one, Choose one and stick with it all 16 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:14.560 right, Jack's not really a subject matter expert on anything really, but we 17 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.599 have him here that we're going to run down a bunch of like stories going 18 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.599 on right now. First and foremost, the big news from the weekend was 19 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:26.400 the idea of hostage rescue and Gaza. You know, that was a big 20 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:33.359 one. Supposedly over two hundred terrorists if you're listening to the IDEF were killed 21 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:41.480 during this and four hostages were rescue, right, yeah, yeah, Jack, 22 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:42.079 What do you got on that? Tell me everything? You know? 23 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:49.000 I mean, what I'll say this much is you know, I spoke to 24 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.879 a source this week and he confirmed that this was a Israeli unilateral operation. 25 00:01:55.159 --> 00:02:00.640 There was really no American military or intelligence support for it at all, So 26 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:06.200 they did this one on their own targeted counter terrorism hostage rescue mission. I 27 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:12.039 went in and pulled out four hostages from Gaza, and you know, there 28 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:17.919 are some differing perspectives of course, as as everything in this conflict. And 29 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:22.759 you know, the the Gaza health ministry said, yeah, I think they 30 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:24.840 did. I think they It is confirmed they did a bunch of air strikes 31 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:30.759 to support their withdraw out. And now it's going to be contentious of like 32 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.719 how many people died in those air strikes, and I think the Israeli government 33 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:39.680 has even said there have been some collateral damage, is it like two hundred 34 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:46.159 and seventy four civilians the way the Gaza Health Ministry says, I don't, 35 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:49.360 I don't know. I'd maybe take with a little bit of grain of salt 36 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:59.560 on that. And then the other interesting thing is the Palestinians are saying that 37 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:07.000 they that the Israelis used some deception tactics to come in using an AID vehicle, 38 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:12.400 ostensibly to infiltrate closer to the target area. There were other reports, 39 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.479 I think it might have been even in an Israeli newspaper reported that some of 40 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:22.360 the operators posed as Palestinian refugees, like they were internally displaced people, you 41 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:25.039 know, posing as them moving from one place, one town to the next 42 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:30.719 as a way to get closer to the target area with while being undetected. 43 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:37.560 And I'm not sure if it's true or not. You know, the some 44 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.879 of the people are saying that they posed as as Aid relief workers because you 45 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:46.400 know, and that would be probably illegal if they did that. If you 46 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.520 recall back in the day, like what was it, two thousand and eight 47 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:54.960 when the Colombians rescued American hostages that were held by Fark the helicopter, And 48 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.919 I mean there was a deception operation that they were you know, first they 49 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:09.000 were Red crossworkers and that turned into a bit of a controversy. So but 50 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.719 I mean, now there's also some video footage, some helmet cam footage that 51 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.560 the Israelis have released, and when they show the operators moving up to the 52 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:19.720 target structure, I mean they're weren't, like full battle rattle, clearly identified 53 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:27.079 as Israeli soldiers, So that would negate the idea that they were like in 54 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.800 disguise as they got closer. But it's possible that two things happened. That 55 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:35.240 a reconnaissance element came in close undercover, and then the assault element rolled in 56 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.800 behind them. I mean, there's a number of different things, and whenever 57 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:43.240 you talk about military operations, the devil's always in the details. And I 58 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.360 won't claim that I know all of them on this particular mission. So speaking 59 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:51.360 of that helmet cam footage, I only saw a little piece of it. 60 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:55.959 But did they engage anyone on the target, any bad guys on the target? 61 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.360 It didn't look like from what I saw, look like they literally rolled 62 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.120 in, rolled into the room and grabbed them. Yeah, I mean, 63 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:08.279 and that could be because the camera footage was edited, possibly by by the 64 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:13.439 Israeli authorities, either censorship or they don't want to show something that's particularly gruesome. 65 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.680 I don't know. Yeah, just totally speculating. It's hard to believe 66 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:23.560 that they didn't receive or engage enemy as they as they rescued the hostages. 67 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:27.319 You can hear in the footage like a hell of a lot of incoming fire. 68 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:31.240 I mean, there's a firefight breaking out all around them. Okay, 69 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:36.639 cool? Cool? So and I did I read I think it was in 70 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:42.759 when you were around with Ward Carroll that all four were from the same they 71 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.519 all four of the hostages were from that music festival. I believe they were. 72 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.319 I believe, Okay, because the one girl I recognized from when it 73 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:54.399 first happened October seventh or the eighth. The next day when they were throwing 74 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:59.800 video her picture like of her being taken away, I guess. And a 75 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:05.720 currently the mission commander was wounded on the objective and passed away when to the 76 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:11.959 hospital. So yeah, they lost apparently they lost one officer during the during 77 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:16.879 the raid. Gotcha, It's crazy. I can imagine I was trying to 78 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:21.600 think of it from an intel point of view, how they prepped that target. 79 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.600 You know, if I was an intel officer, I'd be you know, 80 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:31.519 on the toop, I'd definitely be talking to assets who were in live 81 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:35.680 in the area, or you know, are familiar with that area. You 82 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:39.519 know, what do they know about where they're being held? Is it are 83 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:44.160 they actually there? How many bad guys are there? That sort of thing. 84 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:46.360 So that must have been a I'm curious to know, and I don't 85 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.040 know that we ever will how long the preparation for this took or was it? 86 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.639 Hey, this is the intel we have where they are, go get 87 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:59.519 them? Yeah, I mean the operation. I hate to use the word 88 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:03.800 complex city it's overused. These operations are difficult and complex, right, and 89 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.639 any kind of hostage rescue usually is so. From what we do know, 90 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.279 I mean, it's clear that a fair amount of planning went into this thing. 91 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:17.639 And as you point out, any hostage rescue operation requires a high level 92 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:23.519 of intelligence to be successful, to do a surgical raid. Gotcha. Now, 93 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:30.800 is there any indication of like TFO or RC or NSA like helping in 94 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.639 terms of like intel not on this one. Okay, Now, the fact 95 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.920 that it was done during the daylight, you think that indicates it's one of 96 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.399 those hey in extremists, we go now, because normally this would be done 97 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.160 at night, right, Yeah, especially when you're bringing in birds for the 98 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.480 ex filtration, you'd want to do that under the cover of darkness. So 99 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:56.319 I don't know why the decision was made to do it during daylight as opposed 100 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.959 to at night. And they but obviously they felt that they had a high 101 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.160 confidence of success. Maybe, yeah, you point out it. I mean 102 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.839 it could be like part of you know, what you'd sometimes call an emergency 103 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.079 assault plan, like the hostages are about to be killed or executed or something, 104 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.680 so you go in and do the assault because it's least, you know, 105 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.959 it's worst case scenario. But no, I don't really know what led 106 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:28.000 into the decision to do this during hours of daylight. And sorry to keep 107 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.279 peppering you with this stuff, but I'll keep it up keep with the exception 108 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.919 of the loss of the commander or rest in peace. Do you know of 109 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.240 any huge hiccups that happened. I think you said something about a vehicle. 110 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.240 Yeah, there was again a report that one of the Xville vehicles got stuck 111 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.120 on the way out. You know that they had either got stuck in a 112 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.120 pothole or mechanical problems. I don't know what the what the issue was, 113 00:08:54.200 --> 00:09:01.039 so they had that on the way out. Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha. 114 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.679 I would ask see if he's got anything, but he fell asleep. No, 115 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.960 sorry, I'm looking at another story. Yeah. Yeah, well, 116 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.360 I mean, so that's four, you know who have been recovered. They 117 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:16.120 looked relatively healthy in the video that I saw as for you know, healthy 118 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.720 for what they'd been through. So yeah, or yeah, I'm hoping that 119 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.480 you know, they can get the rest or at least get some word on 120 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:31.120 the rest. So I would think after this that Hamas would probably shuffle these 121 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.360 folks around from wherever they were to other spots, you know, to try 122 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:41.080 to prevent this happening again. Yeah, I mean, And the interesting thing 123 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.840 is when they do that, it opens up more opportunities potentially to detect the 124 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.120 hostages being moved. And sometimes that's a part of the plan too, Like 125 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.720 your hope, you're doing something, hoping that the bad guys are going to 126 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.639 get on cell phones and start blabbing their mouths about what's going on and say 127 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.919 hey, Akmed, We're going to move the hostages over to you know this 128 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.039 street now, and you know that, and that opens up other doors, 129 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.240 other opportunities for you to get people back. Absolutely. Yeah. I was 130 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.200 actually one of my first thoughts when I saw it was like an apartment building 131 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.840 or something, was wouldn't it be better for the bad guys keep them underground? 132 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.679 If there's such a you know, a huge network underground, then why 133 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.600 keep them there unless they were in the process of moving them from one spot 134 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:31.759 to another and just stuck them there. Yeah, And I mean there's a 135 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.720 couple of different things, and it's all speculation, of course, but it 136 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:41.720 could be that someone has to take care of the hostages and there's like a 137 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.639 there's like a sort of ratio that you need like two people to take care 138 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.559 of ten hostages or four people, because you have to have people guarding them 139 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.639 at all times and bringing them food and stuff like that. And you know, 140 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.600 so if you're keeping the hostages down in tunnels, then you have to 141 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:05.919 have you know, either hamas members or auxiliaries that are caretakers of the hostages 142 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:13.320 and keeping them alive. And I mean, yeah, are are those people 143 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.159 gonna live in tunnels or are they gonna live in houses? Right, So 144 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.440 it's like a question of like where are you gonna have and then also as 145 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:24.360 you know, the difficulty in moving the hostages around, and then maybe it 146 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.200 has something to do with some of the tunnels being destroyed as well. Yeah, 147 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.720 what's ballpark? Like? How many hostages are left? Over one hundred? 148 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.320 Over a hundred? Yeah, like confirmed alive or we don't know, 149 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:46.919 like mostly not confirmed publicly. Yeah, all right, h next story, 150 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:52.600 I wanted to talk about wash the top hasible, a commander and three operatives 151 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:58.080 killed in South and Southern Lebanon yesterday by an Israeli strike. Talib Abdullah is 152 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.559 the most senior member of the Lebanese terror group to be killed in eight months 153 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.440 of deadly border fighting with Israel, and in return, eighty rockets were fired 154 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:11.840 at the North on Tuesday. What do we got cooking with that? Jack 155 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.799 thoughts, Well, I mean not really. I mean it's the continuation of 156 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.879 this conflict and you know it's I think Milbourne laid out maybe the last time 157 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:28.080 we talked about how there's this sort of like tit for tat, like you 158 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.960 do something, We're going to do something, and it's all sort of like 159 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.639 part of it is a little bit of a stage play. I don't I 160 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:39.639 hate to say that because people get killed, but it's like the Israelis do 161 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.600 something they know to keep their credibility. Hamas has to lob some rockets back 162 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.240 at them, and so it's this sort of like almost arrangement, the facto 163 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:54.080 arrangement dot that exists, but you're having you are you know. The problem 164 00:12:54.120 --> 00:13:00.639 is there's this increased drum beats towards war in Lebanon with Hezbollah, and that 165 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:09.080 opens up essentially a new military front in this conflict and and escalates the chances 166 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:16.120 of this conflict expanding into something much larger. Yeah, I don't know if 167 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:20.399 not necessarily can afford it, but wants that right now. They got enough 168 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.240 shit going on. I mean they're I think they're overwhelmed by what's going on 169 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.080 in Guys. I can't see like how they're going to fight a two front 170 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:35.879 conflict. Absolutely, what else we got d you were talking about Poland before, 171 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.879 Yeah, we'll get to that one last. I mean this one that 172 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.759 happened yesterday also was uh, this is more domestic. I guess eight suspected 173 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:48.799 terrorists with possible Isis ties arrested in New York, LA and Philly. The 174 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:56.440 men from Tajikistan came came through the US southern border and their criminal background checks 175 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.480 came back clean at the time they crossed, but they ended up getting swept 176 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:07.279 up here in America, which is kind of scary. So they came across 177 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.679 the border legally, yeah, yeah, one actually even used that like one 178 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:18.840 border app or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, for asylum and yeah, 179 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.919 everybody they all checked out clean. So it's scary, Like you were 180 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.320 just saying, I mean, nobody can argue, Hey, we knew they 181 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.639 were criminals. You know, why do we let them in. They did 182 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:35.720 it technically the way they were supposed to do it, and they made it 183 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.039 in And this didn't I know that. The article I think came out yesterday, 184 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:43.200 but this is like months. As soon as they got into the country, 185 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:48.519 they were under observation, they were being surveilled and checks were done on 186 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:54.279 them. So then it was a multi state operation was put together to round 187 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.159 these guys up. I think it was one guy who actually wasn't one of 188 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.080 the original group, someone that they hooked up with had been on their FBI's 189 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:07.000 radar as well. So when the two met the the that group and then 190 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.360 this one guy that was what the catalyst was, It's like, okay, 191 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.399 round him up. Wow, is there anything? Has anything come out about 192 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.600 like what the plot was or how far along it was. I haven't seen 193 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.879 anything. I'm gonna keep reaching out to my context about it, but I 194 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:26.360 haven't seen anything about what the plot was. I'm very interested because you know 195 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:31.320 that they came across the border, you know, and and there is obviously 196 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:37.559 border security issues that we need to figure out and resolve. But we really 197 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:43.000 haven't seen terrorists infiltrating by coming across the southern border. There's always been fears 198 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:48.840 of it, you know, sometimes paranoia, but I don't think we've seen 199 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:54.679 an actual terror plot come across the southern border until now. Yeah. Yeah, 200 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.720 Well, despite what people are screaming, you know that every one coming 201 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.399 across as a terrorists now and there whoever sent them, because I'm sure it 202 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:07.399 wasn't just random h was smart enough to send one who don't. They have 203 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:12.279 a clean record, you know, so they get in the way that you 204 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:17.759 quote unquote should get in, and once they're here then they can collect and 205 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:22.480 you know, pop off whatever they're planning. But thank god, I mean, 206 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:27.159 I hate to say it, but the fact that the key factors where 207 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.840 they were coming from, their countries of origin, played a big role in 208 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:37.320 them being profiled, for lack of a better term, and in this case 209 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.720 it paid off. Not saying that everyone that comes from Syria, you know, 210 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.960 Iraq or and whatever is is has nefarious intentions, but that I'm sure 211 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:52.799 has had a big part in playing our big part in the fact that they 212 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.399 were being surveiled afterwards at once they made it into the country. Yeah, 213 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.840 so these guys, these guys are from Tajikistan to jikits In. Yeah, 214 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.240 even then, I mean, yeah, that's just probably enough to say, 215 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.079 Okay, let's keep an eye on these guys, you know, and sometimes 216 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:11.799 they're already here, you know. And this is not a terror plot thing. 217 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.319 But Jack, you remember, I want to say, it was back 218 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:21.640 in two thousand and ten or so, we had that big spate of Afghan 219 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:26.000 students that were down at Fort I think it was Fort Bragg or Deadning and 220 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.720 they just kept just walk off the base and disappear. I mean, some 221 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.839 of those still haven't been rounded up, so who knows. I'm sure they 222 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.640 turn up at a strip club at Fort Larderdale or something like that. And 223 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.720 I'm sure most in most cases it's not a terror plot. It's just a 224 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.079 case of I don't want to go back. But there was that one case 225 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.640 you remember a few years back to Saudi. It was a yeah, student 226 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.200 on a military base who was down in Pensacola. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 227 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:59.880 yeah, so you just you never know, never know, yeah, 228 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.039 and then uh you may have. I don't know if you talked about this 229 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:10.079 on Teamhouse, the shooting down at Fort Bragg, the Russian, Russian, 230 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:15.200 Russian, I think right, catch it? Yeah, the contractor for that 231 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:21.319 energy company, the telecom company, Telecom, Yeah, some crazy Yeah. 232 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:26.279 I know. I don't know everything about what happened there or by any means, 233 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:32.079 I know a few things or some interesting details. I'm interested to see 234 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:37.519 how all that pans out, if that guy really had some sort of nefarious 235 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:45.960 intentions or was he just a Telecom employee, Because the the employer put out 236 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.559 like a press release like you know, we stand behind our boy. He's 237 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.799 going to be exonerated in court. All this like that's not something an intelligence 238 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:57.240 platform does, right, Like they would just pull a fade and disappear out 239 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.759 of America. Yeah, like you don't. You're you're not going to court 240 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:06.000 and batting for your your dead asset. It doesn't work like that. Absolutely. 241 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.559 Yeah. And then when I saw when I first was reading the article 242 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.440 and I saw the company was out in New Jersey, I was like, 243 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:17.079 God, damn it Jersey again. Yeah, we did it again. Yeah, 244 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.480 but that's some crazy. I mean, it happened at night, right 245 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.839 if I remember, or in the evening does it was still light out, 246 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:29.240 but it was like almost it was the sun was setting, gotcha. Yeah, 247 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.000 I mean it's tough. You see somebody taking pictures. Your kids are 248 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.200 in the area. Now, this is based on what I've read. You 249 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.759 know, kids are in the area. It's kind of hokey to you. 250 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:44.000 I'm not sure where it turned violent. I heard that it turned violent or 251 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.720 escalated before the shooting. But yeah, it's it's uh, it is. 252 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.119 It's weird. There's a lot of details I don't think we're getting. Yeah, 253 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.960 there's there's some interesting stuff there as far as on the military side that 254 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:00.839 I'll tell you guys after we finished doing the show. I'm not going to 255 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.559 say it publicly, yeah, because I also I don't I'm not going to 256 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:11.640 publicly identify that army officer at this time, and you know he deserves a 257 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.480 chance to be you know, cleared in court as well. Yeah right, 258 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.079 yeah, you got to assume this guy was highly trained, and like this 259 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:25.759 probably isn't the route if you're getting surveilled for real, it's to just no, 260 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.160 it's not I'm not an expert, but it's not what they're trained to 261 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:30.960 do either, right, yeah, they're not trained. Like if you're under 262 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.839 surveillance, you're not supposed to go and confront the vice team and absolutely not 263 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:41.119 right, yeah, that's not in the farm handbook. And even and this 264 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.759 this this army officer is a farm trained case officer as oh really yes, 265 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.680 oh man, see yeah, and we're absolutely even if you're in a vehicle, 266 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.680 you're running an SDR and you think that you're covered, you're not doing 267 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:57.279 that, Hollywood, let me hook this first, right then flip a uie, 268 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.680 let me do that. That's at you would do that, But that 269 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:07.079 is it's your last point before you make it. It's your last decision point. 270 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:10.759 You you can go into like one a neighborhood where you know there's only 271 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:14.319 one way in, one way out, start flipping UI's and stuff like that. 272 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.119 Aggressively. It's called going aggressive. But you're not doing that right off 273 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.519 the bat, because now you've just told whoever's following you, okay, this 274 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:25.119 person has something to hide, you know. So you know, I've I've 275 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:30.200 been doing some research for a separate a separate story. And you know, 276 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:36.759 the FBI interestingly has a unit that specializes in this that like if you're an 277 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:41.359 FBI agent or it could be requested from another governmental agency and like you're under 278 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.519 surveillance, you have an active threat, like Iranians are parked outside in front 279 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:48.920 of your house. This like FBI van with a bunch of dudes with MP 280 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.400 five's will pull up and just like rip dudes out of their cars. They 281 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:57.240 don't like it. It's it's specifically for active threats, and from what I 282 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:02.440 understand, these dudes do not fuck around at all. Yeah, yeah, 283 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.119 I mean let them do it, you know, you bet it's in Oh 284 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.200 my god, what's happening? You know? But let them do that shit? 285 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:14.640 Crazy jack, You got anything? Tell me, Tell me what are 286 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:21.720 you, what are you working on? Give us everything. So Sean Naylor, 287 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.279 who you know, I work on this on the high side with on 288 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:32.960 this this National Security News outlet. He's working on this story about a legendary 289 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.759 CIA officer who was a Green Beret in Vietnam has a Distinguished Service Cross that 290 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:42.599 may be upgraded to a Medal of Honor potentially, So that's in the works 291 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:48.720 right now. I'm working on a story about Havana syndrome and I'm pretty deep 292 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:55.799 into it and I've spoken to a lot of the I'm really interested in speaking 293 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:00.880 to the original people in Havanah who were hit, and I've talked to a 294 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:07.200 number of them and I'm going to talk to another one shortly. And I've 295 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.799 been talking to a lot of the doctors, a lot of the like CIA 296 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:15.039 doctors, and like these are like really interesting people. They're like practicing doctors 297 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:21.119 that see patients but also have a top secret clearance and consult with the White 298 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:25.559 House and with the CIA. I'mlike, you know, cbr N threats and 299 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:30.759 stuff like this. Like it's very very interesting stuff. So I'm working on 300 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.799 that article right now, and once that's done, Yeah, there's some other 301 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.640 interesting stuff that I think Sean and I are going to move on to. 302 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.839 Well. I'm definitely looking forward to the Medal of Honor article. Because as 303 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:47.279 you know, he was a mentor of mine, really really good guy. 304 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.400 Check out the High Side. The link is in the description Jack and Sean 305 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.799 Naylor, you know, the guy who actually wrote the book on Jaysack. 306 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.519 Yeah. Yeah, So can I ask this then about the without you giving 307 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:04.839 away anything about the Havana syndrome thing. Are crickets involved, because that's what 308 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:11.920 I'm reading, I'm hearing like crickets or beetles or some that was Yeah, 309 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:18.079 that that was one of the things that I think Jason group trotted out there, 310 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.960 that these guys were just hearing crickets. That was ruled out pretty early 311 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:30.880 on in this in the investigation. And obviously the inner ear damage and the 312 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:37.799 damage done to the cerebellum that's detectable and has been detected in in different kinds 313 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:44.480 of There's different types as I've learned of functional magnetic resonance imagery. One of 314 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:48.680 them is called full body I believe f MRI I, and so there's different 315 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:53.359 types that look at the brain. But what I'm getting at is that between 316 00:24:53.440 --> 00:25:02.279 that and also the blood marker bio biomarker indicators that indicators of TBI, there's 317 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:07.240 quite a bit of physical evidence that these people were hurt by something, and 318 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:11.599 you know, obviously crickets are not going to cause inner ear damage or damage 319 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.839 to your Sarahbellum, Yeah, yeah, I saw that and I was like, 320 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.119 wait, well, I mean I'm no medical person or scientists, but 321 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:26.599 I'm like, damn, they gotta train crickets against this crazy Yeah. Some 322 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.400 of the other stuff people have been freaking out about is that Russian flotilla that's 323 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.759 like off the coast of Florida heading to Cuba. There was a lot of 324 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:41.759 like Twitter chatter, like standoff between Russian and US. You know. Meanwhile, 325 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:47.279 it's probably at this point, probably more than three a quarter of the 326 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.240 Russian navy is literally going to Cube because they're so right. Yah, I 327 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.000 mean, look, Russia is not a credible threat. Like, they're not 328 00:25:55.039 --> 00:26:00.480 a credible military threat to US. I'm sorry, they posed us a significant 329 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.920 counterintelligence threat, maybe even you know, if they decided to conduct acts of 330 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.599 sabotage against the United States or something something along those lines. But like it's 331 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.720 the Russian maybe going to come in bombard Tampa or something. I don't think 332 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:21.440 yeah, they're going to come in pound Key West. Yeah, oh man, 333 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.640 Yeah, I think they're just trying to They're just flexing what little muscle 334 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.720 they have, you know, because I think was it Putin that had said, 335 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:36.759 you know, we're we're willing to arm you are enemies America's enemies, 336 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:41.119 you know, against them, and people were throwing up headlines it's another Cuban 337 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.640 missile crisis, blah blah blah. I just don't see it. They already 338 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.960 arm our enemies against us, and our other enemies are arming Russia against us. 339 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.400 So it's like, what changes. Yeah, Like if you want to 340 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.400 use have some sort of like use a threat, you have to have leverage, 341 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.119 and like you don't have leverage when you're threatening to do something you've always 342 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:06.440 been doing anywhere. Yeah, exactly doesn't make sense. Yeah, oh man, 343 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.480 what else you got? The guys are really running me ragged today. 344 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.799 Uh. I mean it's more about the uh you know, polling, rounding 345 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.759 up a bunch of like Russian agents, I would say, because a lot 346 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.400 of them are I guess dual national, like you know, Polish and Russian 347 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.720 citizens, so you know, just running sabotage operations. I mean, the 348 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:36.200 Poles are probably super busy doing this. It's probably a big factor and like 349 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:38.119 a big thing on what they're looking at. I'm sure they're using a bunch 350 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:44.200 of bandwidth to try and stop it, because yeah, I mean, they 351 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.359 got a lot of stake, you know. And when it's internal. To 352 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.359 me, I've always thought that that was the biggest issue. You know, 353 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:55.480 it wasn't Russia, it wasn't China. It's always to me, it's internally 354 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.279 whatever. You know, that guy that you see every day at the gate, 355 00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:02.000 you show your ID two, you know where it is. Loyalties lie. 356 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.279 Not that we should be, you know, paranoid about everyone, but 357 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.640 that to me is the biggest threat because that is what lulls us to sleep, 358 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:15.880 you know. And so you have these dual nationals who have competing loyalties, 359 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.839 and that's when shit like this happens, sabotage or you know, like 360 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.720 or even it's not even necessary dual nationals. It's one who get caught up 361 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.240 in this uh YouTube TikTok snatch at whatever stuff, and they see all these 362 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.839 propaganda videos and then they start sympathizing and next thing, you know, like 363 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:40.400 that British officer, they're handing over secrets. The The interesting thing that I 364 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:45.559 haven't really seen anyone put together in the media, is that you know, 365 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.480 there's sort of a global game, a global shadow war going on in that 366 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:56.319 you saw all these acts of sabotage in Russia, mysterious fires and explosions. 367 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.839 Who's doing that, I don't know. And now you're seeing stuff starting to 368 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.759 happen in Eastern Europe. And you also have to factor the nord Stream. 369 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.440 We still don't really know what happened there. You have to factor that into 370 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:14.119 it. Like each act of sabotage carries with it an implied message to the 371 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.440 people who are being sabotaged that you're under threat. We can get to you, 372 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.319 and we can strike you harder in the future. And I think it's 373 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.960 very interesting to look at how, you know, all these acts of sabotage 374 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.039 happened right when Russia invaded Ukraine. In Russia, all these sabotage acts in 375 00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:37.200 Russia, they seem to have dwindled off, and one could speculate that it's 376 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.400 because the sleeper cells are either running out of demo in their cachet site locations, 377 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:47.640 or they have had they've been rolled up by Russian authorities, or they 378 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.359 were compromised enough that they have to clear the country and get out of there 379 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.559 and now. But here we are a couple of years later, and all 380 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.400 of a sudden, you're starting to see this escalation and acts of sabotage and 381 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:07.160 poland why is that? And why now? And I think that you have 382 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.359 to see its like is this retaliation for that? Yeah, like you did 383 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.279 it to us. It took us a couple of years to build up the 384 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.960 intelligence infrastructure in your country to conduct these acts of sabotage. Now that we've 385 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.359 built it up, we're going to start doing it. Yeah, makes sense. 386 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.359 Yeah, I don't. I don't think I'm speculating a bit here, 387 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:30.400 but I mean I don't think it's totally irrational to view it in that lens. 388 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.480 Absolutely, And why wouldn't you want to divert attention and stow fear, 389 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.000 you know in countries that are not directly involved in Ukraine or the conflict but 390 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.400 border it, or you know, of sending equipment or something like that, 391 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.880 because now you have the ripple effect of not only generating fear, but you 392 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.559 could generate sympathy against the war. You know, people are saying, you 393 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.119 know, look, this has happened in US because you guys are giving them 394 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.519 tanks. You know, that sort of things, though there's definitely second and 395 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:06.319 third order effect. Is there a possibility of how high is that threat in 396 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:11.480 terms of sabotage and arson, like for our factories like in Scranton and the 397 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.160 one that they're building in Dallas, for the one hundred and fifty five millimeter 398 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:21.000 shells that are like obviously like gold there. It exists, And I mean, 399 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.000 I don't know, really, Jason. I mean, maybe you can 400 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:29.079 comment on the security and the counterintelligence around those facilities. But I think there's 401 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.160 there's a great book that I've recommended in the past. I think it's called 402 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:37.119 Burn, Bomb, and Destroy, and it's about the German sabotage campaign in 403 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.519 the United States one hundred years ago, and they were blowing up AMMO dumps, 404 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:47.240 they were putting incendiary charges on ships that were bringing supplies over to Europe. 405 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:51.240 I mean, it's very interesting to see how that campaign was run in 406 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.599 the United States back then. Yeah, I mean, yeah, So, 407 00:31:53.960 --> 00:32:00.640 I mean these people are vetted, the people who work there secure whatever it 408 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:02.799 is they're vetted. I don't know what the exact process is, but I'm 409 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.079 sure that they go through a pretty extensive background check, and you know, 410 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:13.319 all those other things but again this is me harping on the insider threat. 411 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.240 But you could get through Scott three free, like these guys that came across 412 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.319 the border. You get through Scott free, and then you're working there for 413 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.359 two years or whatever, and you start falling on hard times financially, you're 414 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:30.160 going through divorce, whatever it is. And you know, the Russians, 415 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.119 the Chinese, whoever it is, takes note of that stuff because they are 416 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.519 watching these people and approaches. Hey, we got the solution your problems. 417 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:42.799 All we need you to do is ABC, you know. So it could 418 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.920 be that everybody, all one hundred people who work there are vetted. Fine, 419 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.359 but all it takes is one bad day, one bad you know, 420 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.160 a Hanson type thing where you know your your finances are going to shit, 421 00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.480 your marriage is going to shit, all the perfect storm. And yeah, 422 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.079 I don't necessarily see it coming from the outside. I could see it coming 423 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.839 from the inside if it was going to happen here. And that all of 424 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:12.359 that takes like some deliberate targeting by foreign intelligence services. Like that's not something 425 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.279 that like these like Tajeeky's are going to throw together, right, Yeah, 426 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:21.960 So I mean it's just worthwhile to point out that, you know, you 427 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.240 would you'd have to specifically target the facility and the people who work there and 428 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:32.599 spot and assess them. And it would require the Russians to infiltrate competent trained 429 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.519 like tradecraft trained intelligence officers into the United States. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, 430 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.759 this is not a some guy sitting in his basement, you know, 431 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.640 I'll show them kind of thing, especially from the outside, like not somebody 432 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.079 let's just say in Ohio, you know some guy who's like, you know, 433 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.400 fuck the government, I'm just gonna build this thing and toss it over 434 00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.200 the fence kind of thing, because he's going to get shot. Where As 435 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:06.359 someone who is targeted, who has knowledge and ability to get into these facilities, 436 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.480 they're targeted, and it would be a month, sometimes year's operation to 437 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:17.000 for a foreign intelligence service to target that person work them up. Because this 438 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:21.000 is the United States, whether you know, for better or worse, people 439 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.559 are pretty much loyal at the end. At the end of the day. 440 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.320 We're a little less averse to saying, Okay, Ivan, you know, 441 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.360 give me two thousand dollars, I'll do this, which is going to cost 442 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:37.000 my life probably. So it's probably months or years to bring that person around 443 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:42.760 to even considering doing an act of sabotage. You know, it's one thing 444 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:49.920 that insert a computer virus than it is to plan a bomb. So it's 445 00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.840 I mean, on that note, I mean it's it's actually pretty interesting the 446 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:59.639 security we have around our nuclear infrastructure in this country. I probably shouldn't go 447 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.840 into too much detail, but I know of one facility in particular that like 448 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:09.719 they even wargamed, like what if the IRGC parachuted a battalion of Iranians in 449 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:14.480 here, could we defend against it? And like it does that facility does 450 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.960 have to be able to defend against it. So there's some pretty interesting stuff 451 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.679 that goes on there. And we do have special ops guys who read team 452 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.760 those facilities to see, you know, is it possible to sneak in there? 453 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.719 Is it possible to assault the facility? All that kind of contingencies are 454 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.840 wargamed. Yeah, I was in a nuclear security before I went to the 455 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.960 agency, and you're absolutely right there. I don't know if they don't call 456 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:45.880 them CAF teams, but they are SF some former, some current who and 457 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:52.559 they take some of the security team from each facility and train them as well, 458 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.519 just so you have that insider thing and they run war games all the 459 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:02.679 time live and tabletop yep. Yeah, scary shit. You got to assume 460 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.920 nowadays too, like the cyber threats, just as or even more you know 461 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.559 of a threat than the physical threat of it. Absolutely, you know, 462 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:17.079 hopefully are pouring money into that. Yeah yeah, I definitely can't speak to 463 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.239 that. I barely turned this computer on, but yeah, yeah, but 464 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.360 again, people are you know, we get so hyped up on even when 465 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:30.719 it comes to cyber threats. Hey, shutting down a centrifuges or something like 466 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:38.000 that. That could be something as simple as inviting a program into the system 467 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:44.519 that shuts down production of a small part for f thirty fives or something like 468 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.000 that. You know, it doesn't have to be huge. Yeah. Yeah, 469 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.519 Poisoning the supply chain is like a huge thing, and it's something that 470 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:57.519 our intelligence community looks at doing to the enemy as well to allies. Absolutely. 471 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.800 Yeah, that was great act. Where can they find you? Uh? 472 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:08.039 You can find my screeds across the internet. I'm on Twitter at Jack 473 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:15.440 Murphy RGR. Find me in Sean's work as well. On the high Side, 474 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.519 which is a sub stack you can go check out and then of course, 475 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:23.239 soon find me and d on the team House every Friday on the youtubees 476 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:27.880 or wherever you go for podcasts. Jason, where can they find you? 477 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:35.280 Right here? Hat now, I'm I'm on Instagram. It's just my personal 478 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.639 account. Yeah, I'm boring, so everything, all the links will be 479 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.840 in the description. Definitely check out The high Side with Jack and Sean. 480 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.199 They do work that you're not going to find the New York Times doing or 481 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.679 the Wallstreet Journal doing. Really uh if you go check it out now, 482 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.280 I mean there's a ton of long form articles on there. We got stuff 483 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.960 about Jaysocks spinning up for Gaza. We got stuff about the CIA Omega teams 484 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:05.039 in Afghanistan, the Special Forces green Light teams that parachuted in with backpack nukes. 485 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.760 All kinds of cool stuff on there, and that's parlayed into a book 486 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.239 about Special Forces history. Event. Yeah, I'm working on a on a 487 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:19.199 pook. Yeah, sure it should be great. Of course, Patreon dot 488 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.800 com slash the Teamhouse. That's the best way to support this show because YouTube 489 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:29.480 continues to screw us, uh and screw up multiple a ton of other creators 490 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.320 too. 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