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you can. David, I know we have a ton of things to talk
about, but I'd like to kind of start with Washington, d C.
Which is near where I live. Washington, d C. Has had,
like many other cities throughout the country, a horrific uptick in crime and violent
crime. I think we are up thirty nine percent on violent crimes over last
year, and like thirty percent in general with crime. These include assaults,
we've you know, there are armed robberies, there are retail theft rings.
We've had multiple members of Congress dealing with crime, whether you know one was
carjacked kind of recently, so just a really bad situation. So maryel Bowser,
who's the mayor of Washington, d C. This week introduced new legislation
to address the violent crime and she has new tools for the police for how
they can combat crime in the city. And I'm sorry, but this is
ridiculous, not that she has realized that the police need tools, but that
she oversaw the defund the Police movement in Washington, DC. She was a
huge nationwide proponent of that movement. She in twenty twenty one instituted the Black
Lives Matter Defund the Police monument which is right outside the White House, which
was painted there during the race riots of twenty twenty that were intended to destabilize
the country. She supported that movement while also actually tear gassing some of the
rioters and blaming that tear gassing on Donald Trump. This woman was a huge,
huge advocate of harming police efforts in her city, and now that we're
reaping the benefits of that, the pain of that, now she wants to
change the tools that police are allowed to have. And it's just kind of
appalling. You do remember how wide defund the police was, and then when
people's crime started and riots start happening, crime starts spiking, they were like,
no, no, you don't get it. Defund the police doesn't mean
defund the police. It means this or that or you know, reforms.
And then as soon as people realized how disastrous that policy was, or Democrats
realized that, they immediately pretended like they had never supported it. I'm sure
that Bowser will pretend that she was never really behind that sort of thing.
But I think the BLM riots should you know, and how that ties into
what's going on now, I think is that it's basically part of the same
movement and the same people you see marching, or not all the same,
but many of the same people you see marching today, you know, in
these Prohamas marches. Do you think that that's a fair thing to say In
the twenty twenty Democratic Convention, Those conventions were run by zoom, if you
recall, because of the hysteria over the COVID pandemic kept them from being held
in person, and so she opened up I think maybe even the first night
of the Democratic Convention, standing on top of a balcony that oversaw the defund
the police Black Lives Matter plaza, and she didn't just express support for those
violent Marxist movements right then and there, she in that space blamed Donald Trump
for macing some of the rioters that were outside the White House. And I
just wanted to like, I don't want to forget this, because we live
in a propaganda environment where people treat January sixth as the only riot that ever
happened in the history of mankind and the worst riot, and they forget that.
BLM nationwide ran riots that attacked the White House. They had to move
the president to a basement. They went after federal courthouses, they went after
police precincts, they killed people. And this was a violent, awful movement,
and some of the most powerful people in our country, many of them
supported it, people like Mario Bows. All these corporations they funded the Black
Lives Matter Movement to the tune of at least eighty three billion with a B
dollars. Some of that was directly financing the BLM organization. Some of it
was just financing the goals of the BLM organization. And the BLM organization's goals
include for some reason, radical transactivism, destruction of the family, defunding the
police, a widespread belief that our country, which is the best country in
the history of the world or was, is racist and evil. And they
also were the whole time supportive of Palestinian terrorist organizations. They said, the
leaders of that movement said that the elimination of Israel was their cause, and
they said that publicly, they didn't hide it, and our corporations financed them
and financed all of their causes. And now, yes, that brings us
to the point that you that you were just talking about that, now we
are saying that the same people who destroyed the country in twenty twenty are out
there marching for Hamas, right, Yeah, no, I mean, yeah,
it's a big topic because it's not It is definitely blam it's the Women's
March founders. Also, we're all anti Semites, all anti Israel, I
mean, and when I say anti Semites, I mean that they peddled conspiracy
theories about Jews being responsible for slavery and things like that. BLM is obviously
anti Israel. It's all part of the same. I'm going to call it
Marxist. I know it's not exactly right, but I think it's fair enough
to call it just a sort of intertwined Marxist outlook on the world. Oppress
or a press see things like that. And I mean, these Hamas marches
have sort of rattled me because it's something that you we've been seeing it.
And when I say Prohamas, I mean that they're pro Hamas, they're not
pro Palestinians. I think I said this last week, your pro PALESTOLINIANI in
two weeks ago. If you're marching now and after what Hamas did, your
pro Hamas. But anyway, you see this in Europe all the time.
I wrote about it in a book, and I think we're we're starting to
see a lot of that here and there are poles that have come out that
that show that yeah, you were going to say something, no, well
yeah, yeah, do you mind? Like also, I also am rattled.
I saw last night on Twitter this I guess Jewish guy saying he was
coming home to his apartment in Manhattan and there were hundreds of pro Hamas demonstrators
saying there is only one solution. You know. They were saying, like
basically kill all the Jews, and how terrifying this was for him, and
I agree, it is absolutely terrifying to see this, and sorry tell us
about the polls. But I'm not terrified. But I am rattled because I'm
not terrified because I'm in America and I have the right to defend myself here
and I don't act to act the way that European Jews had to act,
unfortunately. But there's like I would say that there were dozens of Charlotteville marches
across America basically even in some ways worse than that Charlotteville March, but very
similar. I mean calling for the end. You know, from the river
to the sea is a is a chant of genocide, and people were chanting
that across the country. And when you look at poles generally, they show
that people are on the side of Israel. And that doesn't mean like you
have to like everything Israel does. It just means are you the side of
the existence? In my view, it's like are you on the side of
civilization or in the side of Hamas right now? But when you really take
a deep dive into those poles, it is pretty scary. First of all,
young people are like fifty percent of them to think that in this Harvard
pole that came out yesterday that Hamas was justified and what it did. Forty
eight percent of people under thirty five believe that. Another poll I saw show
that a majority of Muslims believe that it was justified. So you have young
people and some immigrants who, in my view, are not integrating into American
society in the right way, frankly, and you know, those are the
people who are marching right now. It's not you know, it's you know,
it's college young college students. And by the way, when you're talking
about the young people, I'm positive it's not the homemaker, young homemaker.
It's not the engineer, it's not the person starting a business. It's the
you know, it's the social pseudo science major, the person getting their PhD.
All the people that are going to work in media, we're going to
work in government, We're going to work you know, in law firms,
who are going to work in the places that have a ton of power.
Only sixteen percent of conservatives say that that Hamas was justified, but thirty six
percent of people who are liberal. I mean, I keep hearing how the
right wing is antisemitic and are for sure anti Semites on the right, but
the left wing has an anti Semitism problem, and it's embedded in our institutions,
and that worsn't even more than the marches. Cold turkey great on sandwiches.
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embrace of Hamas and anti Semitism, you have started to see certain people announcing
that they are not going to fund, not going to continue to fund some
of these left wing universities. And that's good. I think that's great.
And also you're having people say they're not going to hire certain individuals but it's
not just that they didn't do that when BLM was trying to destroy our country.
They actually gave money to support the BLM pro Hamas movement when the mobs
came just a couple of years ago. And so while I'm happy to see
people standing up against it, i want to be like where the h double
hockey sticks were you three years ago? Where you bowed down in supplication to
these people instead of saying, hey, no, you're wrong. The United
States is not the oppressor, and black people are not the victims, and
white people are not needing to be exterminated. Like these were all the same
things you're hearing now. It was directed against white people, or conservatives or
the country itself, but we did not see a lot of bravery or courage
in standing up against that. And so to see it now, I'm like,
well, what, Like, I'm glad, I'm glad you're doing it
now, But it would have really helped if some more people had stood up
against this radical, evil BLM movement that did so much to destroy our country
and weakness as a as a civilization. And it's too late now. Harvard
has like a fifty billion dollar endowment, Yale has forty billion dollar. All
the elite schools have tons of money. They could everyone could go free,
for free to those schools for decades and decades, and it wouldn't matter to
them, you know. And the administrators in those schools have welcomed this kind
of you know, radicalism. They defend the free speech of radicals, but
never defend the free speech of conservatives. In these schools, they're hermetically sealed
ideological centers of propaganda for the most part. Jews. I've been writing about
this for a decade now. Many Jews on campuses have to be nervous all
the time, you know, And now it's just getting worse and worse.
And even you even see it right now. I mean, I know everyone
thinks, you know, the media keeps saying that Biden is on Israel's side,
but he's not. At the first sign of it. Whenever there's anti
Semitism, whenever there's Jews being killed in the Middle East, the first thing
they or the most important thing we need to talk about all the time is
Islamophobia. It is so annoying it waters down the real problem. Anyway.
I don't know, I get I go. I'm like always all over the
place, because when I get worked up about this, but I think that
this is a intractable problem in a way. There's no way to fix these
schools right now, and no one wants to fix these schools right now.
Now, no one's going no one in the state Department wants to fix their
outlook, So what do we do. I think it's it's just going to
get worse for Jews because these young people are going to be running things,
and they're just going to be propagandizing the next generation, and it gets worse
and worse. The older you are, the more pro Israel you are,
and the younger are the less. So that's that's a trajectory that's not going
to change. I'm kind of worried for the Jewish community here, and many
many Jews are marching as well, by the way, not many, but
some because their real religion is Leftism, not Judaism, and they don't care.
And that's just corroding corroding support for Jews as well. So I don't
know, it's a pretty bad situation. I you know, I still believe
in America, and I still believe Jews are safe in America right now.
But I don't know. I think we're heading towards a European kind of situation
here on so many levels, on so many levels that it's it's really problematic,
you know, speaking of these people who you know, realize what's going
on and pulled their funding from from from elite universities and stuff like this.
There's also this movement a lot of people are writing about this now where this
is sort of a moment where Jews were mugged by reality, right, and
that they're going to change and they're going to realize that they're on the wrong
side of things. That progressive progressivism is imbued with a kind of uh,
you know, hatred of of of Western ideals, but also Jews, which
always seems to go hand in hand him and you know often so and they
think that this is going to be a wake up call for Jews and Jews
won't be voting for Democrats anymore. I am incredibly skeptical that's going to happen.
I think most Jews do not in America, do not view Israel as
one of their most important issues. As soon as we go back to talking
about whatever it is, uh, you know, they're going to vote for
Joe Biden and not Donald Trump or whoever is going to be the GOP candidate.
This is it's not like any of this is new to the Jewish community.
If you're Jewish, you've been you know that this has been going on
for all long time. So the idea that they're all of a sudden going
to stop and change the way they view politics in general, I think is
wishful thinking. Well, I think there's a lot of cope or wishful thinking
going on in people noticing that a bunch of Jews are realizing how bad the
left is on simple things like should Jewish children be slaughtered? And it's true
that Jews are not like a huge percentage of our population, even though our
country is the second most populous Jewish, Like we have six million Jews compared
to Israel's seven million. That makes us, right, I think we're the
second most populous. Yeah, yeah, for sure, entry for Jews.
But I also think it is kind of important that you've seen a bunch of
high profile Jewish individuals speaking about how hurt they are by their former left wing
their left wing friends, former friends for their approach here. I think there's
something meaningful about that. In this I don't quite know how to explain what
I'm what I'm thinking, but it has been a wake up call for a
lot of people. It is one of these things existential threats can can wake
people up to the seriousness of certain things, even if it's causing them to
look back on BLM in a slightly different way, or the importance of not
leaving it to the end state when you decide to defend yourself, but thinking
through who your true allies are heading into problem spots. So I it's not
nothing that you're hearing so much from so many former moderit or left wing people.
But I also think that we'll see this a little bit in the year
to come how this plays out, because the Democrat Party does have a massive
problem. I mean, you just said the right wing has certain anti Semitic
elements. It also has like a mixture of foreign policy elements, you know,
just like the left wing does. The left wing, though, has
people in very prominent positions who there are no way to put it other than
this pro hamas. And so this creates a bit of a collision course in
that close knit family of the Democrat Party about how they're going to handle this
situation like they've got a president who's simultaneously supporting Israel while also trying to get
Israel to back off from some of what it plans to do in the Gaza
Strip. You have the State Department, which has experienced some resignations, some
outbursts, like some real conflict. They said Anthony Blincoln had to do an
emergency meeting this weekend. I think with people over how they do not support
the Biden administration supporting Israel. You have Rashida Talib and ilhan Omar and Alexandria
Cassio Cortez who are not like nobody's in the in the Democratic Conference, who
are losing their minds over their support for Hamas and their inability to condemn what
Hamas did. And so I think you're going to start seeing this spillover in
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pretty skeptical that this is going to be one of the main, you know
issues. Jews will set this aside or Jewish Democrats and they'll they'll, you
know, here's what happens, you know, don David. Yeah, sorry,
okay, sorry, I don't even interact to go on. No,
I want you to tell me, like you don't think it's going to be
a major issue. We have protests in every major city in the country in
support of AMAS. Right now, they're flying Hamas flags in Minneapolis, like,
this is not a Democrats always have street protest. I just saw a
picture of someone saying reproductive justice is a free Palestine issue or something, and
it was like, are they're linking their their abortion stuff to free Palestine?
It is where their young people are. It relates to the poll you said,
and Democrats rely on street action and this is where the street action is.
It's it's not going to be something they can paper over. Do you
think I don't know we'll see. I guess I'm always skeptical because I've heard
this. I've been writing for twenty something years, I've been you knowlved in
thinking about politics for you know, thirty years, and I heard that,
you know, you know, I've heard this when Al Sharpton was around,
when Jesse Jackson was around. I've heard this when you know, when Obama
was around and he turned the Democratic Party against to Israel, not alone obviously,
but was a big, big reason for it, and it never really
happened. I think what happens is what's going to happen is Donald Trump's going
to go out there and he'll say something about George Soros or something, and
a bunch of ADL types and everyone else is going to go out and say,
look, the right's also anti Semitic, you know, listen to the
dog whistle, and they're going to compare supporting Hamas with talking about George Soros,
as they always do, and it's going to just devolve into that sort
of thing. I mean, initially, the ADL, for instance, which
is just a terrible organization in so many ways. I've written about it often.
I think Jonathan Goldblad, I've heard you guys. Nick green Blad,
maybe it was on msn and he like basically, you know, he criticized
the network, MSNBC on MSNBC, saying, who's writing your scripts? Because
they were so pro Hamas. This happened like days after the attack. The
other day, ADL sends out a ADL sends out a story about how whites'
premisests are out there marching against Israel, like that is like talk about,
you know, and they don't even mention the left wing protests which are happening
everywhere. They're huge. Did you see the pictures of that Queen's New York
protest? That's where I was born, and it was huge, and there
are Palestini you know, Hamas flags all over and people with all kinds of
anti Semitic signs and stuff in Times Square in New York City. We're still
more Jews, I think, live in New York than anywhere. Maybe Florida's
catching up. And there was a person holding up on swastika, right,
I mean, I know it's one person, but you know it that kind
of thing does rely. So anyway, I don't know how I got here,
But the point is I'm still not sure that someone in New York,
a Jewish person is going to vote for Donald Trump or Republicans because there are
just too many issues for them that they feel, you know, undermines their
their wider beliefs. But I hope you're right. I hope everyone's right because
there are other issues. But if people want to destroy you, if they're
out there saying from the River to the Sea, if they're supporting we're not
saying anything about Russia, talib or ilhan Omar, they're your enemies. I
mean, you know, we're all Americans, but we also have you know,
we're Jews, we're Christians, we're Muslims, we have other things that
we care about. And I just I just don't know how people in good
conscience can support Democratic Party at this point. Yeah, And I guess I'm
thinking less about politically and partisan voting and more about what's considered acceptable speech or
policy goals. I think that this unrest is less about people switching parties,
but maybe more about there will be discussions in debate within the Democrat Party modering
the Democrats, and that's more interesting. Like as one college president come out
and said, this is horrible. You know, we stand with Israel or
something like that. I don't think so has any Democrat come out and said
ilhan Omar is wrong? I kind of think Ben Sas did that, Yeah
initially. So I'm talking about the elite schools and no, no offense to
Florida or wherever it is. But you know what I mean, I don't
know. I don't even know why we're not really even arguing about this.
I guess I don't know is the answer, but I don't know's. It's
definitely rattled me. So let's just talk about something else. Let's talk about
something other than Israel, which has occupied my mind now for two weeks.
And let's talk about the Supreme Court of the United States that's occupying my mind
a lot because of my other project. Yeah, and last Friday, the
Supreme Court announced that it was taking up Missouri v. Biden, which is
this massively important free speech case that came out of Louisiana and Missouri, where
those those states to the Biden administration force for restricting Americans' First Amendment rights by
colluding or directing big tech companies to censor protected American speech on a range of
issues from COVID and pandemic response and like origins of the Wuhan virus, to
election issues, things about BLM actually like all the hot button issues, oh,
the Hunter Biden laptop, which is really a story about the Biden family
business and its corruption. And so these states sued a circuit court had enjoined
or restricted the US government from participating in this censorship industrial regime by directing big
tech companies to censor American speech. Then the Fifth Circuit, it was appealed
to the Fifth Circuit by the Biden administration, and the Fifth Circuit upheld most
of that. Originally they upheld most of it, and then upon review they
upheld all of that injunction prohibiting the Biden administration from restricting First Amendment speech.
That was emergency appealed to the Supreme Court. And then where we were on
Friday is that they agreed to take up the case but or the injunction,
but they allowed. They're saying that the injunction is stayed, is stopped,
and so that means the Biden administration can continue to censor at least until this
issue is resolved, which could be like the end of June, which is
pretty deep into the election season, and so we don't know exactly who on
the court was in favor of that, but we know that Justices Alito,
Thomas, and Gorsich were not in favor of allowing the government to continue to
censor, and so they Alito wrote a dissent where he explained why it was
like completely wrong to allow the government to continue to censor. A lot of
people are really hopeful about this case because the facts are so good and so
strong, and First Amendment jurisprudence is so sort of consistently good for free speech
rights. But there I talked with someone who's kind of been following the case,
and she was saying she's very concerned about the fact that they only had
three justices publicly saying it was wrong to let the government continue the censor.
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Right? Yes? We're here, Yes, how the case is going
to go to me? It's very clear what should happen. But I think
this speaks to something more dangerous, a deeper embedded authoritarian outlook about the world
that has become the norm among Democrats, and that is that it's okay for
the government to involve itself in speech. I mean, this would have been
unthinkable twenty thirty, forty years ago, maybe since World FDR and Wilson involved
themselves in this way as well. But put it this way, it's even
if the administration didn't direct people to do anything, the simple fact that they
talk about it or ask for any kind of censorship is going to be followed.
Because the United States government is the most powerful organization on earth. It
is, you know, and these companies spend millions every year rent seeking and
lobbying and looking for favorable regulations. They're going to do whatever the government tells
them to do. And the very idea that the government thinks it's okay,
that the administration thinks it's okay to tell people what to do, I think
that that's just even a bigger problem. I would just like to say that
the government has always wanted to restrict Americans free speech rights, which is why
our founders wisely put in protection for our natural right to speak, and that
in fact, you see examples of this throughout American history, I think,
maybe most famously through Woodrow Wilson and other progressives who tried to restrict protected American
speech. But the big change therefore is not government desire, but the capability
to absolutely obliterate the public square from being a place of free expression. And
I think it's harder now than ever to do that, actually, I think,
I mean, I agree with the first thing you said, but just
that, like now, because of the way tech works, in the way
that we have the public square being in the space of social media, it's
just very easy to shut down debate and freedom. I think it's much harder.
You don't think it's harder now when then, when you only had newspapers
that did whatever the government wanted. I mean, you you know, even
the Hunters thing, they tried to shut it down down, but you know,
because Twitter existed, because other social media exists, that people knew what
was going on. I'm mildly appalled that you're not aware of how much effort
is put into restricting distribution of speech and debate in this country. So there
is an entire censorship industrial complex. The federal government has numerous, like dozens
of agencies that their job is to is to locate speech that they disagree with
in whatever area they're in. So if it's like if it's you know,
CDC, it's about health issues, where if you disagree with what Anthony Fauci
or other sort of corrupt public health officials say about a given response to a
public health threat, they can silence you. And they direct all these intermediary
organizations that they helped set up, these NewsGuard type places where they have complicated
algorithms to detect unfavorable speech, protected but unfavorable speech. Let's say you criticize
a Democrat politician. Let's say you question the goodness of mail in ballots.
Let's say you quote Jimmy Carter questioning the goodness of mail in ballots. That
is viewed as a threat to the republic and attack on democracy, and so
they come up with ways to recommend that big tech companies silence you and silence
the distribution of your speech. So let's say you're a media organization like the
Federalist. Let's say that you have reported honestly and accurately across a whole wide
range of issues. Let's say you reported accurately that the Russia collusion hoax was
a scam. Let's say you reported accurately that Brett Kavanaugh, a federal judge
of twelve years at the time of his confirmation, was not a serial gang
rapist roaming the streets of suburban Maryland. Let's say that you said, gosh,
we have pretty well developed ways of responding to emerging pandemics, and shutting
down the economy and closing churches is not one of them. If you said
these things, all of which were true and accurate, not only did our
government, working in the censorship industrial complex, have the capability of shutting down
those very important arguments, they shut down all your arguments. They restrict your
ability to distribute your news information everywhere. And let's say that you are the
New York Times or the Washington Post and you were on the wrong side of
every single one of these issues, you get amplified. So tell me again
that in our current space, we have like a really great diverse information environment
I love how mad you got to meet. Listen. I've never said the
words you just said. I didn't say we have a great environment. I
simply said that with the Internet, it's harder to keep wraps on this sort
of thing than it was when you had physical media, when the government could
go through mail. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying that it's more difficult
now to shut everyone up because of the Internet. I've said this last week
with Twitter, for instance. You know, in the old days, when
the media shut down a story, it would almost never be debunked. It
would take months for it to be debunked. Now can instantaneously debunked. I'm
not saying it's perfect. I agree with you. I agree with you.
All of this is very authoritarian, but it's very well. I'm just making
a technical point that in the Internet age, it's a little bit harder to
just shut everyone up, and a lot of this gets out. That's all
I'm saying. So I agree with you. I agree. I mean,
I think in the old days, at least there was a fake emergency,
not a fake a war. So there's a war on we can't have today,
you know. Barack Obama says that misinformation kills people. And he might
be right when it comes from the New York Times, but not when it
comes from you know, people just on the Internet, and they agree they
labeled true and accurate information misinformation or disinformation, all the while they are running
legit disinformation operations against the American people. It is a very you know,
scary situation. Totally agree with it. I mean, you had you had.
I don't know if people remember what was it called. It was like
the Ministry of Truth thing they wanted to set up. What was it called,
Yeah, Nina, Nina Jankowitch, I don't remember. She was at
the Department of Homeland Security, and it was just that was one tiny little
subset of a massive operation. I there are people throughout our defense department that
are all about information warfare, like creating false realities. There are there's this
SAISA, you know, the the Secure Cybersecurity you know, yeah, which
is all about running disinformation ops. And I saw Politico was like, gosh,
Republicans don't seem to like the election medaling that's done by SISA. That's
like a weird thing. It's like, yeah, it's really weird that they
would be opposed to this like unbelievable level of election medaling that comes from these
cyber operations. Yeah, I'm just going to stress this one last time.
I think it was like the Surgeon General also said we need to root out
disinformation about hell stuff like that. The government has no role it is clearing
the Constitution in this. So if the court doesn't rule the right way,
that's a problem. But the bigger problem is that if American people don't care
anymore, the Court's not going to matter. If the American people don't care
about the First Amendment or an entire major party doesn't care about it, sooner
or later, the Court's not going to matter. You're gonna have states doing
it, like California or whatever, and it's going to be a terrible situation.
That's my only point. I guess I am more inclined to believe that
hopefully, in the Internet age, you can circumvent that kind of censorship better
than you could during World War two World War one. That's all, So,
Molly, let's talk for a moment about the House speaker fight that is
going on. I mean, I don't really care very much at all,
but should we be worried that, like the things that they were actually getting
done, like uncovering a lot of the Biden family business stuff is going to
be hampered by this or what's going on. Yeah, we're heading into week
three of no I think we've actually passed week three of not having a speaker.
And I was someone who was generally pretty positive about Kevin McCarthy. I
understood why there was frustration with him, but does not seem like there's a
better alternative that is coming around here. And I keep wondering if we're not
going to see the return of Kevin McCarthy since he was managing a very difficult
to manage conference. Like I look at all these names of other people who
are out there, and even Scalice and Jordan, you know botho I think
would have been fine. I don't really get the feeling that anybody would do
a better job than Kevin McCarthy. So I wonder if we won't see,
you know, won't see him coming back. But one of the things we
have looming is a government shut down, which I'm not sure everybody in the
conference views as a bad thing. There are all sorts of there's just like
the congressional calendar going on, but there also is a lot of oversight stuff
going on, so most of that's coming out of Comer's Weaponization Committee, and
there are pre impeachment proceedings going on related to the Biden family business, and
without a speaker, I think it's going to be harder to deal with some
of those things, and that that might apply some pressure to the conference.
Just this week there was the news I guess late last week there was news
that Comer had found a check written by Joe Biden's brother James, to Joe
Biden for two hundred thousand dollars. That this check was written to Joe Biden
immediately after James Biden had gotten a loan from his AmeriCorps business, which my
husband has written at length about, which is like a domestic version of the
grift that the Biden family was running internationally. It related to health care work,
but was one of these things where they sold influence, you know,
when they were trying to get financing or funding for their business, they would
say, we can open any door for you because this guy is literally Joe
Biden's brother, and it ended up being like the whole company I think got
raided by the FBI. Nobody seemed to care about this in twenty eighteen because
our media were too obsessed with a made up Russia collusion hoax at that time,
and so and so what the Biden people said in response was like,
oh no, it's like nothing to see here. It's just a loan repayment.
And first off, there's not necessarily any evidence that James Biden was ever
loaned money by Joe Biden, So you need to see the proof that,
in fact, Joe Biden had lent his brother two hundred thousand dollars or more
to see that this was a loan repayment. But secondly, since this company
ended up failing shortly after this loan was made to James Biden, which he
claim, then you forwarded onto Joe even if it were alone, it shows
that this corrupt family business personally benefited Joe Biden, even if it were just
a loan repayment, which I think people are kind of skeptical about whether that's
even true, and Margo Cleveland has a great piece up about this, but
it just kind of reminds you how important it is to have Republicans in control
of anything, because the Department of Justice is certainly not looking into Joe Biden's
family business. They're actually trying to cover up everything and restrict people's ability to
look into it. Our corporate media are not looking into any aspect of this,
you know, Margo Cleveland, Mark Hemingway or two of like. I
don't know, probably can count on one hand the number of reporters looking into
AmeriCorps. And without the Weaponization Committee controlled by Republicans, you're just not going
to get this kind of information otherwise. Hey, y'all, this is Sarah
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memo line say influence pedling grift on it? Because if not, there's no
proof that there's anything wrong with this. I mean, that's literally what they're
The argument's going to be from Philip bump Er, who doesn't know how babies
are made, and everyone else. I'm sorry. I saw yesterday that chrys
Eliza, who I think used to work at CNN and Washington Posts and as
I'm sure a very very nice individual. Yes, but not known for his
journalistic chops. He said his favorite reporter in the world is Philip Bump.
It made me feel very badly for Philip Bump. Yeah, I told I,
and they said that the perfect tweet would never be made, And there
it was. Who is chrystalism praising Philip Bump? Yeah, it's perfect.
Ace of spades. One of my favorite favorite blogs in the universe pointed me
to a Philip Bump ted X talk where he said the problem with the world
is subjective media. He taped this ten minute bit of problem in I think
twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. The problem is subjective media. Problem is subjectively
unlike him, so he a far lovel He was unbiased, who doesn't know
anything about anything. He's objective and he's unbiased. So when he says there's
nothing to see here about the Biden family business, could we instead look at
this made up story about Brett Kavanaugh. He's speaking objectively and the problem is
those subjective people who say he's full of horse pockey. You know, there
is this thing among lifeftists where they think that their position is just common sense
in the norm. They don't really view their their their outlook as being partisan
or political. They just think it's normal and moral and that how could anyone
argue against it, So it kind of makes sense because he's clueless. But
I will say this, people like Jay Rosen and other sort of famous journalism
professors argue that the that the media is not subjective enough, that there's to
both sidism go too much both side asm going on, and which is why
journal journalists don't you know, anyone goes to journalism school probably comes out not
as a critical thinker but as a kind of credentialed moral nit wit. And
it's a huge problem for journalism, which goes back to all the other stuff.
Anyway, that was a real uplifting podcast. Let's talk about culture.
The world's falling apart. It's so weird because things actually should be much like
we should be in a nearer utopian state being right now, you know,
most people there are. So there's so much good stuff that's going on in
the world, and yet you know, as far as just like how we
can live and live with each other, and yet we're always back to the
same Yes, David, because it's actually not about GDP that that the reason
why people live healthy, happy lives in harmony with other people is not solely
reduced to GDP. You do want to have a thriving economy and that's important,
but so are I don't even know what that what that means. It's
not just atheist, and you don't realize the importance of Basically, what I'm
saying is everybody needs Jesus and that is how we could have peace here.
That's what I've been praying. Actually, it's just like for the peace that
God gives. I didn't mean it like that at all. I mean,
I actually do think people need religion, and I think that, yeah,
I mean I think that we're going to go through this again now, so
I think that, yeah, you know, GDP is not going to make
you happy, but it is a big part of our lives that we don't
have to struggle for food, that we can do interesting things in our lives,
that we have the time to spend with our families and make families and
live, you know, and do all kinds of you know, take on
hobbies. And who was that anti Semitic pastor that Barack Obama had, Oh,
Jeremy Wright. Jeremy right to quote Jeremy Wright, The chickens are coming
home to roost, like we have turned our country into an immoral place and
we are now reaping the benefits of that. So I do also want to
say I haven't been able to talk about it for a few weeks, that
I'm slowly making my way through the Old Testament, and I just finished Ecclesiastes.
I'm in Song of Solomon now, and that is an amazing I would
just like to kind of read Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes over and over again.
And I had mentioned when I was in the Psalms, and one of
our listeners, who I think is Orthodox Jewish, was saying that it is
the practice in his community that you read through I think the Psalms, Proverbs,
and Ecclesiastes like once a month. And so they sent this little link
to how you break it up, and it was very helpful. I really
liked it. But man, are those three amazing books to read again in
the context of what you've read that's come before. It's great. The watch
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is exactly opposite. I would say, what you were doing. So the
other day I ran out of things to watch. I like to take a
little time up, get my mind off what's going on. So I needed
some empty, some vacuous, vapid entertainment. And I'm like, you know,
I should watch the Harry Potter movies. See what all the hubbubs about,
all the young people are talking about it and all that. And so
I started watching all the Harry Potter. Harry Potter movies. I think I'm
on the third one or something. They're awful. I mean, the whole
thing is so so so dumb. I have trouble understanding why kids were so
enthralled. Maybe because there's this imaginary world that they're you know, that the
adults aren't part of in a way, but just terrible. So let me
ask that. Why I bring it up is did you read these books?
Did you watch those movies? Or do you think it's witchcraft and satanism?
Basically, I only read the first one back, you know, when I
feel like I was almost a kid myself. I read it on a trip
to Europe. I forget the name of it, but I liked it.
I thought it was good. I thought it was good, but I didn't
feel the need to read anything else. And then my children have read them
multiple times, and you know, we'd always do this thing where like they
had to read it before we could watch it, and they had to be
old enough to read it where it wouldn't be too scary. I thought the
movies were great, really, Oh my god. For sure you would have
thought that they were like anti Christian and kind of witchcrafty. I would say,
in fact, quite the opposite. I think they are very Christian interesting.
I think they're as to do that a lot with you. You'll do
that a lot. You'll do that a lot. You do that a lot.
With culture, you'll be like, this is that? Like what was
it? Remember that Show Girls, and you're like, this is the most
conservative show I've ever Girls was inadvertently conservative and also White Lotus very inadvertently conservative.
I felt like, or just I think when you're telling truth, you
might surprise yourself about where that goes. And I think both of those shows
were made by smart people who were trying to tell truth. I don't know,
you know, I think maybe I wanted to watch them because I see
that JK. Rowling is actually a liberal, meaning a true liberal of the
old school that she believes in free speech and stuff like that. So maybe
I was inclined to try to watch it. So, yeah, it's also
a Christian, so is she. I didn't know that. Yeah, I
I watched the opposite of that type of like worthwhile movie. I saw my
best friend's wedding with Julia Roberts. Yeah, of course I've seen that.
I think I thought it was something horrible. Yeah. So there were these
two guys, two brown haired, white guys, and they looked very similar
to me, and my husband was making fun of me. He's like,
they don't look similar at all, and I'd be like, why is this
character saying that? He'd be like, what do you mean? And I'm
like, isn't that the one that's gay and he'd be like, no,
that's the one she's in love with. And I just apparently some brown haired
white guys look the same to me, or maybe I just wasn't able to
pay much attention. I actually have this problem with blonde women. I think
blonde women are amazingly attractive, and I get very excited when I see a
blonde woman. Like when I was young and I would be in a bar
and I saw a blonde woman, I would just like my head would dart
in her direction. But then I thought they all looked the same. And
I still have this problem, like I like it, but it all looks
the same to me, and so I have to like really concentrate and be
like, that's a different blonde woman. What is happening? That's kind of
so weird racist even wait, all white women look alike white blonde women are
like, now, listen, I you know, I'm just kidding around,
but it is weird. Wait, did I just say something wrong? All
blonde women look the same to you? And but like very good. It's
a good thing. Yeah good, I'm very excited by it. But dramatic
women are the same. Also, you confuse Rupert Everett was that his name?
Who was gay with Dermott Milrooney, who is not who's like about a
foot shorter than that other guy and looks nothing like him. So basically,
you can use blonde women, you confuse all blonde women and all brown haired
men. White men are the same to you. I remember that movie?
Why did you hate it? It was probably terrible. It was like the
nineties when they were singing doing the singing song thing, you know, when
they sing I forgot what did they sing there? Paul tom Jones song Lady.
Anyway, I don't mock rock, but yeah, I found her character
to be disgusting and awful and like evil, And then I also just thought
it was kind of like a sad message about how women don't prioritize the right
thing. And then I wasn't entirely sure she had the appropriate lesson learned.
Can we do a spoiler? I forget? Does she does he end up
with Julia Roberts or with what was her name? Cameron Diaz? He ends
up with Cameron Diaz and she ends up with her gay friend as friends.
As friends, Yeah, isn't it a good message like that she realized she
doesn't come to a realization that she should have married the man younger and stuff
like that. Wouldn't you think that that's a positive message anyway? Sure?
I don't know. I think I think we're talking about this movie too much.
It's first of all, it's thirty years thirty years old. All I
did want to say, I didn't see a couple of the Justified episodes that
you said you didn't like Justified Primeval and I'm I'm enjoying it, So I
have to take a step back now. First of all, that's completely wrong.
But also, did you watch the original? I forget? Did you
like the original very much? So? Okay? And you think that this
show is on par with that show? No, but I think it's enjoyable.
If you took what's his name out, sheriff whatever, the star forget
his name, Timothy Oliphant. I don't get him confused with anybody. I
don't know what I mean, because just so, if you took him out
of that show, wouldn't the show just be exactly the same, Like,
he's completely irrelevant to that story. It's like they had a story and they'd
like threw him in. You could take him out. He's irrelevant to this
plot line. Okay, well let's let me let me keep watching, all
right. I mean, my wife and I we watched a thing on YouTube.
It was a puzzle Championship of the World, like the World Championship of
puzzle making, and it was I want to watch this surprisingly interesting. They
have you know, team team competitions, individual competitions, you know, different
kinds of puzzles that are very difficult. And then they're from all over the
world, like this Spanish team was amazing, Australians, Hungarian's checks like and
uh and Americans. I don't know. I just watched it. I was
interested. There's a whole world of puzzling you would not believe. There are
like YouTube channels that have millions of fi just talking about puzzles, which I
hate. Do you like doing puzzles? I love doing puzzles, but I
only do like one a year usually. My in laws live in Mexico and
they they have puzzles, Like they know I like puzzles, so they give
me a puzzle to do when I'm down there makes me very happy. I
do also. I mean, if you were to put a puzzle in front
of me, I would be finding it very difficult to move past it without
putting a few pieces in it. Put all the pieces, and that is
the biggest waste of time I've on earth. I hate. It is very
mentally satisfying for me. It feels good, all right, everyone's got their
stuff. Probably like what you would say dropping acid is like or something.
I'm just kidding. I'm assuming you haven't done that, but I haven't since
I saw the Dead in ninety four. Now, I never I never felt
like it makes all the things feel good in my head, like they all
kind of go into place, and it helps me just kind of organize my
own thoughts while I'm doing it. Yeah, it's like when you would say
what mainlining heroin was, like, this is true. I don't know what
you're talking about. But speaking of drugs, of illicit drugs, I read
a book. First of all, I just want to preface this by saying
I should not be reading books about music because I have a book due and
I have a lot of work on my plate. But I read a book
a new book out on lou Reid called The King of New York. Lou
Reid was born in the town next to where I grew up, so I'm
always very interested in him. And this is an excellent book if you care
about such things about Andy Warhol, about the factory scene, about velvet underground,
etc. But what I did find funny in the book is that the
author uses all these contemporary words for like gender fluidity, and you know,
all this stuff trend This one's transgendered. We used to just call them drag
queens. And I think that they were called drag queens then, and I
don't think that these people and it made me think of this anyway. In
the I like reading about the Warhole scene because those people were transgressive. They
did not want to be normalized. They did not want to be normal.
They wanted to be apart from square society, whereas today we're supposed to accept
the abnormal as the norm. Right. Yeah, Like I just think about
John Waters being like explaining why he wasn't super down with the gay marriage battle.
He's like, I kind of got into this because I didn't believe in
marriage. So like the idea that Candy Darling the drag Queen who was in
Warhole movies. One it was like gender, you know was a transgender and
this and that. I mean, listen, don't get me wrong, I
think, you know whatever. I don't want to get too deeply into it.
But that kind of annoys me. But the book itself, I thought
generally about Lou Reed's music. I'm a big fan of de Velvet underground Less
his solo stuff. But I just thought it was a pretty good I thought
it was a pretty good book. I should, which you know. I
don't know why I spent the time I'm reading it. Sometimes I'm like,
what am I doing? This is like the fourth lou Read biography I've read.
I just don't know why I'm doing. It's like when you drop acid,
you just you don't think you do, you do weird things? Did
you do? Is that it for you? On the culture front? Oh
my god, what a depressing episode. I hope that people come back next
week. And but be lovers are freedom and anxious for the facts. You're
getting with FOW you do it every now