1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:01:00,840 The the the the the the the the the the the the the the alto 2 00:01:00,560 --> 00:02:32,840 the the although the the the the the the the the the the the the 3 00:02:35,319 --> 00:03:35,360 the the the the the the the the the the the the don't think the 4 00:03:39,199 --> 00:04:49,000 name the the the the the the the the the the the the the the 5 00:04:51,279 --> 00:05:28,839 the the all Right, what's up? Welcome a lot of indication this week. 6 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,879 I mean, it seems like a lot of the stuff we've talked about 7 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:41,480 for many, many years, it's happening, it's unbailing, it's emerging from 8 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:47,120 the closet, but for real, Nope, to get serious, sort of 9 00:05:51,600 --> 00:06:00,879 you can't have this system running without morals to go along with it, right, 10 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:08,879 And if the morals collapse, the theology collapses in as Father Moses talks 11 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,279 about, the collapse in the morals usually is what leads to the collapse in 12 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,560 the theology. Right, it's not primarily intellectual. Moral issues happen first, 13 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:23,199 and then you get the bad theology as a result of bad morals. And 14 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:29,839 that's why you can't really ultimately separate these two things. And in the Roman 15 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:39,120 Catholic world, especially since the time of the gradual adoption of the strict Augustinian 16 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:45,720 view of the sacraments, which in the West develops to be even something beyond 17 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:56,600 what Augustine believed, because Augustin didn't believe that atheists necessarily or Muslims could baptize 18 00:06:56,639 --> 00:07:00,920 you. Now, the theology that he had for the sacraments would eventually lead 19 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:05,959 to that you would eventually get the three elements necessary for a sacrament. In 20 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:12,279 the Romancalthic view, matter, form, and intention. Those are three things 21 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:17,600 necessary, and that develops over time to be specified eventually in the Scholastic the 22 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:23,600 medieval Roman Catholic period. One of the problems, though, is that the 23 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:30,040 idea is that you can have a mechanical operation of this stuff going on with 24 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,920 the grace of the sacraments, not just with sin that would be the Donutus' 25 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:40,480 position right moral failures, but even without the faith. So we don't even 26 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,639 need the correct faith anymore. The correct community doctrines and belief and celebrates the 27 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:53,319 sacraments. Now you can have this divorced from the faith itself, and that's 28 00:07:53,360 --> 00:08:01,759 a distinguishing point between developed Latin sacramentology and Orthodox sacramentology. I would argue, 29 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:09,600 that's my take. And another one of the effects of this is the eventual 30 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:16,079 medieval distinction in Roman Catholic theology between having the faith and having charity. So 31 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,600 if one commits, for example, in the Romanchalic system immortal sin, one 32 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:30,319 loses the charity necessary to experience the beatific vision. In Roman Catholic theology, 33 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,960 you then go to confession, which then absolves you of the eternal debt, 34 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,320 and then you still have most likely to boorld debts that you still owe. 35 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:45,240 This is where indulgences come into play in their system. Oh, that's a 36 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,399 much Romancalic sacramentology, but it's relevant to this because the root of all of 37 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:56,679 this, what's going on with the Roman Catholic system is precisely this divorcing way 38 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:05,799 back at various junctures in Catholic theological development, the divorcing between the morals and 39 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:13,679 the dogmatic theology, such that, for example, you could have Borgia popes 40 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,360 who are completely wicked. They've got Alexander has tunnels underneath the Vatican from the 41 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Borgia apartments to the whorehouse that he has, and would that they were only 42 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:31,519 into the ladies, not even in the ladies anymore. Right, But he's 43 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:39,320 still the Holy Father right now. I'm not saying that again, any sin 44 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:46,120 suddenly invalidates the church quote unquote right, So this is not donatism. Their 45 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:56,000 response to donatism, though, went in the opposite direction of basically formalizing everything, 46 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:01,279 making everything a kind of juridical institutional thing, saying to the extent that 47 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:09,759 the institutional body begins to gradually replace even God himself. That's my view. 48 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,679 Now, of course Roman Catholics are going to differ, but what are we 49 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:22,159 seeing the papacy do. Not only does the papacy make what you could argue 50 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:26,120 in the even in the High Middle Ages was in I mean, I think 51 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,879 the theology is wrong, but you could argue, well, they're making rulings 52 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:35,080 on different different positions and different issues and judging between issues. Right, Oh, 53 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,480 it's it's Roman clitics. So it's like Moses, he's making judgments between 54 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:43,440 cases. Even if that were the case, I don't think it is. 55 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,559 What happens when we get to the point where now even natural law, according 56 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:54,240 to the Roman Catholic system of what natural law is natural justice can now be 57 00:10:54,399 --> 00:11:00,320 altered, updated and changed. And we've shown multiple times that that as in 58 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,759 fact happened, particularly with Pote Francis. But it's not just Pote Francis. 59 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:11,039 This actually goes back to the high the Renaissance period. And I keep talking 60 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:16,759 about this book because it's really good for those interested in the specifics of the 61 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:24,720 real hot bed of time between for the split between East and West. Right, 62 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:28,159 when is that hot bed time nine hundreds to fourteen hundreds. That's the 63 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:35,879 time period where the two churches go in different directions. And so the question 64 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:43,080 becomes, then, who's the authentic church of the first thousand years? And 65 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:50,559 if the thesis is right of Father Moses that theological errors are usually rooted in 66 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,840 moral errors, we will eventually see moral errors regardless of what we know of 67 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,919 the theology. So we can set up aside people's knowledge of medieval scholasticism and 68 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:11,000 who has mastered the suma, and who understands the nuances of sua res versus 69 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,519 Bellermann. We don't even need any of that. You can set all that 70 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:22,440 aside, because, as Father Moses says, eventually the moral errors, which 71 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,120 were the root of the theological errors, will surface, and you'll get moral 72 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:35,240 errors evidenced in theology. You see, in other words, if the papacy 73 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:43,000 is the institution that has innovated and that has moved away from the conciliar Christianity 74 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:46,480 the first thousand years, which is the Orthodox thesis, then we would begin 75 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:56,080 to see the diagnoses of that problem from the Orthodox mindset proving true. And 76 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,519 the diagnosis is exemplified again by Father Moses if you watch him on Coteil Stream 77 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,480 a few weeks ago, the diagnosis would be from his vantage point, which 78 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:11,000 I think is correct. Is it? Well? The real issues here are 79 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:16,639 moral corruption, which will then lead to a corruption in the dogmas. And 80 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,480 morals are actually part of the dogmas, and so eventually you will see a 81 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:24,759 corruption in the morals. And that is precisely what we have seen. But 82 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:33,240 the most recent development is not just a development in the morals. Development in 83 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:39,879 morals and a contradiction in one topic. There have been plenty of others. 84 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:48,399 The position on the usury by the papacy has changed, the position on the 85 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:54,519 death penalty has changed. In fact, I think Tim Gordon even had a 86 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,240 debate with Trent Horne on that. I think they had to have been on 87 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:03,519 that. I think that debate is on Catholic answers. I haven't actually heard 88 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,120 this debate, but I've taught ten mentioned it to me a while back, 89 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,960 I haven't heard it yet, but point being is that, well, if 90 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,320 Francis is there to clarify, it's interesting that we're having debates on what the 91 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,919 Catholic position is on the death only because I mean it shouldn't change, correct. 92 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:26,120 I mean, in classic Catholic moral theology, the death penalty is a 93 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:31,080 manifestation of natural justice. And when Francis actually it was John Paul the Second 94 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,320 that changed the position initially, but when Francis made it even clearer that the 95 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,399 position has changed. Francis said that the death penalty is contrary to the Gospel, 96 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:46,399 even stronger than it's it's abused. You might you might make an argument 97 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,720 that, well, the death penity is abused in certain societies. Okay, 98 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:56,519 but does that mean it's inherently morally wrong. Well, the abuse of something 99 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:00,919 doesn't make something wrong, right, father's abuse are Oh, I guess we 100 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,320 should ban dads and fathers right because it was abused. No, it's silly. 101 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Nobody would argue that unless you're unless you're a pope's planner, then they 102 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,240 would. They would argue that because they're at the maximum peak max meta level 103 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,440 of coping, such that no one the world has never seen, we're at 104 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,960 the new level. But the new level of pope's planning is a manifestation of 105 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:31,559 the original pope'splaining that began in the tenth and eleventh century. What do I 106 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,840 mean by that? That is the century when we got Dick Tatus poppe. 107 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:43,679 That is the century when we got Auto and a hundred years of Germanic princes 108 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:50,799 appointing the pope the papacy. Oh but wait a minute, I thought this 109 00:15:50,159 --> 00:16:00,120 was the accusation against orthodox Cicero papism. What about papal o Crism. That's 110 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,600 why you should read Christianity, the Christian East and the Rise of the Papacy 111 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:08,440 by mayand Or and Papa Dooccus, because the book will demonstrate clear as day 112 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,960 this massive alteration and revolution known as the Gregorian Reforms. And it is from 113 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,200 this period that we get Dick TASiS Pope, which has the most outlandish and 114 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:25,440 ridiculous claims for the papacy, some of which still exist in Roman Catholic canon 115 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:29,440 laws, such as the First Sea is judged by no one that comes from 116 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:41,440 a forgery. Still. There by the way, guys, if you do 117 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:45,679 want to support the stream, you can via superchats. We got a nice 118 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:48,960 six hundred here, maybe we get up to about seven hundred eight hundred tonight. 119 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,919 Superchats are done via stream labs, and the stream labs link is right 120 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:03,480 there all right, So so giving the big bird's eye view here, the 121 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:11,039 point is that you've got a revolution in the papacy in this century eleven hundreds. 122 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:22,240 And this revolution is precisely what many of the Orthodox at that time called 123 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:29,039 out. So if we come over to the academic site here ford them dot 124 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,039 edu, it lists for us the entirety of Dictatus poppy, Okay, and 125 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:37,920 it's one page, and we got a lot of lazy boys out there that 126 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,720 can't read. So let's again look at this. The Roman Church is founded 127 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,279 by God alone. The Roman pontiff is alone universal. He alone can depose 128 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,920 the renstate bishops. Everybody should realize that this is not the way the church 129 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,480 functioned in the first thousand years, right, And most educated Roman Catholics they're 130 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:56,799 totally aware of this, and they said, well, this is a legitimate 131 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:07,119 development, This is a revolution, totally different ecclesiology. Clearly, he alone 132 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,519 can depose emperors. He appoints and approves all the bishops in the world. 133 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:19,319 No sinas are ecumenical without him, nothing is canonical without his authority. So 134 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:25,000 he now judges and is the judge of canon law. He's not subject to 135 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:33,799 the canons. You see other councils prior to this subject to the Roman Pontiff, 136 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:41,720 to the canons. Allah Honorius being excommunicated, that means he's subject to 137 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:45,880 the canons and the decision of the Church. Now it is flipped. The 138 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Church is subject to the decision and the determination of the Roman Pontiff. Everyone 139 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,440 honest with themselves should be able to see that. This is clear as day. 140 00:18:56,759 --> 00:19:02,880 Dictatus Pope ten seventy five, included in the Papal register by Pope Gregory 141 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,160 the seventh. This is a revolution, as clear as day. Have you 142 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:15,319 heard the Roman Catholic apologists address Dictatus Pope. No, they handwaive it because 143 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:26,480 it's extremely embarrassing and it's a killer argument. No one can judge the first 144 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:33,640 see see that number nineteen. And yet what do we have today in the 145 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Roman Catholic world and yesterday in the Roman Catholic world about fifty I'm gonna guess 146 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,200 forty fifty of the Roman Catholic world judging the first Sea in the first Sea's 147 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:53,599 decisions on moral issues. What does Vatican one say about the terrorism of Peter 148 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:06,119 protecting the Roman Sea when it teaches on faith and morals, it is preserved 149 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:15,319 from error. And it is said that in that same phraseology all the way 150 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:22,359 back here at least to dictate his Pape twenty two, What does that one 151 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:29,839 say? The Roman Church has never aired, nor will it err unto all 152 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:41,599 eternity, as scripture says, even though it had already occurred that Honorius taught 153 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:47,920 error as a bishop of the Roman See, he taught Monothelicism. He's not 154 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:51,440 just condemned by the seventh Council and a sixth council, He's condemned by three 155 00:20:51,519 --> 00:21:00,799 successive councils in the Sonaoticon. So it is simply false that the Roman Church 156 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:11,039 never aired from a couple centuries prior to this. And remember Dictatis Pape is 157 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:18,079 partly based on forgeries that we're not yet admitted to be forgeries. Now it 158 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,400 is admitted that these are forgeries. What this is based on things like the 159 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:30,160 Simachian document, Samockian forgeries, the Galesian de Credles, donation of Constantine, 160 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:44,799 right, all the big ones, and yet things like the first he is 161 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:52,559 judged by no one is still in Roman Catholic canon law, so it's not 162 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:59,559 that difficult. Quite simply, the system itself is an air tight system that 163 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:07,200 istructed that either works because there aren't errors and contradictions, or there are contradictions 164 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:14,519 and it doesn't work. It's that simple. And rather than all of the 165 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:18,720 nuances of the theology, which is important, we could spend all day. 166 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,279 We've done years of streams on the theology and the nuance in Rome and all 167 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:27,839 that. As Father Moses pointed out, can we not just look to the 168 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:37,000 morals and have there been changes in the morals now? When Francis says the 169 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,880 death penalty is outdated in its contrary to the Gospel, to me, it's 170 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:51,960 pretty obvious that's a change in moral teaching. To the Roman Catholic. No, 171 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,359 it's it's time for me now to engage in what's called casustri. Somebody 172 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,279 said, why are you using eight dollars words? I don't know what's eight 173 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:03,720 dollars word? That's at least one hundred dollars word, bro. Casustri is 174 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:11,359 the term for when people engage in sophistry, particularly in the domain of ethics 175 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:18,160 to make their obvious nonsense work. Now, we already saw it, as 176 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:29,880 we said with with the change and the death penalty, and we've already covered 177 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,039 it. And you'll notice that they just ignore it. They just move on. 178 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,599 Lofton says, oh, it's not a change, and he moves on 179 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,680 and ignores it. Hand hand waves it. Even meanwhile Tim and Trent are 180 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:51,720 debating it. But if we needed a clearer change in morals, I can't 181 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:57,799 think of a clearer change than what has just happened. And outside of the 182 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:04,119 Trads and Tim and people in that sphere, they're lying. They're outright line 183 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:10,240 because they know that it's a change, and they're doing the same old bureaucratic 184 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:14,200 trick, and the people are falling for it. Right that the Vatican always 185 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,839 does. You do the double speak, move the over to window. And 186 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,319 you know that the psychology of human psychology is to double down and keep defending 187 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,279 the position when there's been an obvious change. And I'm going to show you 188 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:33,359 an obvious change. And even Tim admitted it. What's the obvious change? 189 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:40,200 In two thousand and three, the Congregation for the Doctrine of Fae that's Ratzinger's 190 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:45,519 office right when he was the head of the CDF, which is the successor 191 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:52,039 to let's do it this way, the successor to the Holy Office, right 192 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,200 of the Inquisition. I'm not joking. It's actually called the Congregation for the 193 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,839 Doction, CDF for the Propagation Faith, whatever, hell these different titles, 194 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,799 but this is the successor to the Holy to the Holy Office the Inquisition. 195 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,920 Ratzinger was, for many years before being elected Pope, the head of this, 196 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:17,880 Okay, And there were questions coming in in two thousand and three, 197 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:26,680 what about legal civil recognition or blessings to skittles and other types of things. 198 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,559 Remember, there's other options beyond just skittles. Did you think that skittles was 199 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:42,440 the only alternative lifestyle. There's thrupples, there's polycules, there's UH, there's 200 00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:52,559 a I N CE S T. There's all manner of creative lifestyle that a 201 00:25:52,640 --> 00:26:02,400 person might choose. Now, this document says it is problematic at every level. 202 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,000 There cannot be a recognition of It is contrary to according to rat Singer 203 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,480 right reasoning, is contrary to biology, contrary to anthropology, contrary to the 204 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:18,119 social order, and even contrary to a healthy civil order. It does grave 205 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:33,720 unjustice to the common good, so it cannot be reviewed and changed. Now, 206 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:37,720 Francis in his recent Dubia the Questions that he answered, already answered this 207 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,960 and compared the union between two skittles to the union of man and woman and 208 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,359 said that there are positive aspects to that union, even though we can't full 209 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:55,039 out say all right, it's a marriage. So now what they did the 210 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:59,319 move overton window was rather than getting you to debate about a marriage, what 211 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:06,799 about blings for couples? And then the Casustri engine went into overdrive to explain 212 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,920 that, well, the blessing of this sinner and the blessing of this center 213 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,920 is just the blessing of sinners. No, it's not. You're lying to 214 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,319 yourselves, because the document says, the blessing of a couple. Can you 215 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,240 count a couple is just two individuals. It's a couple, dummy, and 216 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:33,400 you know it, and your liars. Everybody in the world, except for 217 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,640 the hamster wheel of the Pope splainers in their mind and the hamster wheel it 218 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:44,880 keeps running, knows that this is a change for one. The two thousand 219 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,319 and three Ratsinger Congregation for the Doctor of the Faith says that it can't be 220 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000 You can't allow it, and it cannot should not be promoted as a civil 221 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:59,400 union by the state, and it certainly can't be blessed even if it's irregular. 222 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:07,759 Now, blessings of couples in irregular situations within the horizon outline here the 223 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:22,720 possibility of blessings for couples. It's here in such cases, blessings may be 224 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:32,440 imparted. And all of these liars are saying, well, there's just a 225 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,200 blessing of people who are sinners. Did you not hear the entire conversation that 226 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:45,319 Tim gave explaining how in Roman Catholic theology this makes no sense. It's like 227 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:49,160 they don't It's like they're only concerned with the sophistry of the letters, of 228 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,920 the wording, the lettering, how they can twist that to make it work, 229 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,440 when moral theology says very clearly that you can't participate in the sins of 230 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,880 others in Catholic theology. Okay, Cali moral theology, I can't. Oh, 231 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,960 you two guys are gonna go murder. Oh well, let me give 232 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:18,039 you a blessing as a couple of sinners as you go to murder. But 233 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:25,119 I'm not for murder, and everybody in the world can see this is lying 234 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:33,039 sophistry, except for these stooges. Even James Martin says that I'm all all 235 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:40,599 aboard, all aboard the frank train. So here's what I said. If 236 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,119 you watched Tim's show, he explained it very clearly. Tim was spot on 237 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:48,359 in his analysis. He correctly notes that the blessing itself is of the couple, 238 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,279 the union, as the document says. It doesn't say we're just gonna 239 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,319 grant a blessing too, No, No, it's intentionally couples. This is 240 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,279 to warm you up to the next phase. Dummies, you don't understand moving 241 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:07,400 the Overton window. You're that dumb, You're that low IQ. This is 242 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,720 why you keep getting played. And you're gonna look even dumber as you double 243 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:19,640 down. And by twenty thirty, when Francis is sacrificing the infants in Saint 244 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:27,039 Peter Square or whoever his indigenous successor is, you're gonna be saying, well, 245 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:33,559 it's not an mortal sin version of infant sacrifice, because this infant sacrifice 246 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,960 to patcha mama, not for Pacha mama. That's the next level, right, 247 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:48,200 that's I'm being silly, but not really. You cannot bless the intention 248 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:52,079 of sin is the point, and everybody in Ron Mcauthath theology knows this because 249 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:59,720 it makes you a complicit actor in the sin, because the basis is consequentialist. 250 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,319 At the as ten points out, is condemned in Roman Caliic moral theology. 251 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,519 The post planners have already accepted the Overton window move to where now they're 252 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:15,519 defending the blessing itself, which was the original thing in contention, and the 253 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:22,599 timeline that tim will give you proves it. And then they say, but 254 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,519 the document says it's not liturgical, So what who said that it had to 255 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:32,440 be liturgical? Well that means it's not. It's not Skittle's marriage doesn't have 256 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:38,039 to be. This is the stage preparing you for that. And the proof 257 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:45,160 of that is that it used to be condemned. The blessing was condemned. 258 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:52,559 Now the blessing is allowable, but it ain't. It ain't marriage. You 259 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,960 guys, get what you deserve because you keep blind to yourself. And then 260 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,799 you get mad at me because I tell you the truth. The rage, 261 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,279 the rage I told you that this was coming. This is a big vindication. 262 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240 People got mad at me. Not everybody. Most people were like, 263 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:15,200 yeah, you were right, because it's not hard to figure out where it 264 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:30,160 will go. It didn't just start at Vatican two. It didn't just start 265 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:43,799 with Vatican one. Dick Titus Pope in the year ten seventy five makes the 266 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:50,839 pope a world emperor. Don't you think being world emperor might come along with 267 00:32:50,880 --> 00:33:00,599 some temptations, the potentiality for corruption. I would say so. And immediately 268 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:07,720 after Dixatus Pope, we get all kinds of wild things happening in the Latin 269 00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:17,559 Papal Franco Papal West. We get Borgies, we get the Western captivity where 270 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:24,640 the papal throne is in France for seventy plus years. What yes, the 271 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,359 Sea of Peter in France. Again. All of this shows you that the 272 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:37,720 story the Roman Calocics have that the papacy was somehow immune to geopolitical influence is 273 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:44,920 completely false. It's just not true. And the scholarship details exactly how it's 274 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:51,000 not true and exactly what went down. So, and it's not just the 275 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:57,839 pa Papa doc Is Mayandorf book. It's in the Phocian Schism, It's in 276 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:06,519 after nine hundred years by congo are all the same admissions. So do we 277 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:12,840 need a PhD in essence introducation? No, we don't. Like Father Moses 278 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:20,800 says, if the theology is whack, then eventually the morals will crack. 279 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Have the morals cracked? You tell me if now the death penalty is outdated, 280 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,039 Remember it used to be a part of natural justice. We don't do 281 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:37,599 it anymore. It's against the gospel. Number two skittles. Unions are a 282 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:44,519 kind of union, according to the Dubia. It's not exactly male female union, 283 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,480 but it's a kind of union. You know, there's kind of rubbing 284 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:53,239 up on another part of another body. It's a union, okay, kind 285 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,920 of like it could happen between a mom and a son too. That's a 286 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,039 kind of a union. I mean, between a man and an animal is 287 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:06,079 a kind of a union. They're all kinds of unions. So they're pale 288 00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:10,000 reflections of It's still sin but you know, maybe if we blessed, the 289 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,679 sinners will repent. That's the logic of these idiots. It's so stupid. 290 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:21,199 It's so obviously casustri. People are like, you've been saying this word issustri 291 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,599 for so long while because it's perfectly what this is. And Roman Catholics are 292 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:32,079 no strangers to Kasustri. For example, alfonsis Lagwari in his twenty three plus 293 00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,440 Reasons and Bases for how you can lie. Now, I don't have a 294 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,760 problem. Mean, there may be situations when you know, you look at 295 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,400 the example of you know Ray Hab or you know David engaging in deception or 296 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,719 I'm not trying to be some sort of puritan. But the point is that 297 00:35:52,920 --> 00:36:00,480 even though Tim is right when he says that technically Roman Catholic morality doesn't accept 298 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:07,639 consequentialist ethics, actually some of the moral theologies of the trad Catholic world, 299 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,000 actually they do accept quite a few consequentialist argumentation. I mean, and this 300 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:17,480 is actually its own whole niche rabbit hole debate. You can go down in 301 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,440 the world of tradct moral theology where it just gets it gets into literal, 302 00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:30,039 like insane pharisee levels of debates, right like, well, my what if 303 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,719 my intention to deceive was for a greater outcome? I mean, that's kind 304 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,239 of consequentialist ethics. And you actually do see alfonsis of goory reasoning in that 305 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:44,239 kind of train of thought. But anyway, nobody even cares about that it's 306 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,920 not. But my point is that I would actually argue that no, there 307 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:54,840 already was consequentialist ethical reasoning in Roman Catholicism. A lot of people like liguory, 308 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,360 but whatever it's that's not the main point. The main point point is 309 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,679 that if you've already accepted the basis of consequential's ethics, then this is a 310 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:15,280 I mean, you've opened Pendora's box. And that's what people who are naive 311 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:22,239 and domb don't understand social engineering and moving the Overton window. They know good 312 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,840 and well that they can't immediately tell everybody in the world it's time for outright 313 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,800 skittle's marriage. So what do you have to do. Well, you got 314 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,679 to warm people up and ease them into these kinds of things. And the 315 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,840 way that you do that is you begin with things like the blessing. And 316 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,960 that's why they were asking. The very people that Tim talks about in his 317 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,559 timeline back in the nineties and two thousands were already asking about the blessing, 318 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,719 and it was rejected as immoral in two thousand and three. Now, what 319 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:01,119 happened between two thousand and three to twenty twenty three twenty years that suddenly we 320 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:07,039 need a development in Roman Catholic theology. Remember this is a system where there's 321 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:17,960 theological development. Of course it is because this is this is going to make 322 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,000 the Romancalics mad. But guess what. The papal position it itself is a 323 00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:30,480 revolution and innovation. So the very thing that you think is the bulwark of 324 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:38,599 trad the papacy itself, eleventh century Gregorian reforms admitted by your top academic scholars, 325 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:44,960 people like Kungar admitted to be a revolution of the eleventh century. So 326 00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:49,599 we have a different account, We have a different story. Papalism itself is 327 00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,440 the revolution. So it is not surprising to us that we would see evolution 328 00:38:53,679 --> 00:39:00,000 in morals coming out of the papacy. Of course, it has been revolutionized 329 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:07,360 and evolving for a thousand years. And this isn't the first example. Usery 330 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:17,000 is an example. The death penalty is another recent example. And everybody with 331 00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:24,360 an ounce of discernment and an IQ above room temperature can see that this is 332 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,679 exactly what's happening. And let's look at Tim's timeline of events, because he's 333 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:37,440 spot on, and i'm i'm I was really impressed with the honesty that Tim 334 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,000 had in his stream that he did yesterday, which got a lot of views. 335 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,639 So if you haven't watched it, go watch it, because what Tim's 336 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,960 going to do is show you that everybody knows in the Roman Catholic world who 337 00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:54,159 knows moral theology, you can't be complicit in other people's since it's no different 338 00:39:54,199 --> 00:40:00,679 than saying, well, you know, the I n ceest relationship that's here. 339 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:06,599 You know they're they're individually sinners, but I'm gonna bless them as a 340 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:10,760 couple in hopes that they will repent. It doesn't work like that, and 341 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,239 they know that, and that's why the very people who are the goblins and 342 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,719 lagons were the ones asking for the blessings back then. So let's look at 343 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:28,480 this. Here is the history timeline for the Pope Splanners. And when Tim 344 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:34,320 talks about the sunked Gollan mafia, he's talking about this inner group within the 345 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,360 you know papal cardinal you know circles that is the most radical. Okay, 346 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,039 that's what he's referring to. And they're the ones that have for a long 347 00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:47,159 time really been pushing for the extreme changes. So that's what he means by 348 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,000 sunked Gollan Mafia. Now I'm not poop pooing this. I think this is 349 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,920 true, of course. I actually just again you know, we as Orthodox, 350 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,119 we placed the problems away earlier than that I can or the song to 351 00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:06,079 Gollin Mafia. The problems go back a long time. But in terms of 352 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:14,400 the historical timeline, yes, this group within has absolutely been very radical and 353 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:20,480 pushing for big changes. And this will again show you this is the obvious 354 00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,679 plan, this is what they want and all the people trying to explain it 355 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,840 because and it's so funny, because it's like they haven't figured out the double 356 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,079 speak, right, It's like, well, the document says it's not changing 357 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:37,119 anything. Oh okay, well in that case, it's not a change. 358 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,239 Really, you guys can't figure out a contradiction. I mean Tim has pinned 359 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,400 at the top of his comment section on his video the two things that contradict 360 00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:57,920 in Francis's new document. Let's look at the two paragraphs. Let's see what 361 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,199 Tim's argument is, and then we'll get back to the timeline. But I 362 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:05,960 want you to see this because you'll see, I mean, everybody's too lazy 363 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:17,440 to go actually look at this, So all right. So here he's got 364 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:25,639 pinned at the top for those saying that the document affirms church teaching. No, 365 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,760 the document contradicts itself. Finally, here we go a Roman Catholic who 366 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:36,360 can recognize that saying double speak doesn't count as a good argument. Right. 367 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,320 Props to Tim for this right, because look, the document contradicts. So 368 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,840 the fact that it says in one paragraph that there's nothing changing doesn't mean that 369 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,559 when it contradicts there's not a change. You can't see this, You guys 370 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:57,000 can't see this. This was done on purpose to confuse absolutely, and that's 371 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,960 why Tim is correct to say that in romancauth theology, the contradict is to 372 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:05,519 usher in the idea of blessing in mortal sin. Also, Tim points out 373 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:10,639 Francis's change in whether divorced and remarried people can have communion is a change. 374 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,559 It's a contradiction. He's right about that. But that's not even like as 375 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:22,079 big as this stuff. Why do I say that? Well, in Roman 376 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:30,320 Catholic theology, skittles is one of the sins that Christ to have in for 377 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,440 vengeance. So in Roman Gotha theology, there's certain mortal sins that all mortal 378 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,800 sins damn you and remove charity right from the soul. But certain mortal sins 379 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,199 are extremely bad in Roman Catholic theology, and one of those is skittles, 380 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:52,000 and hence in Roman Catholic moral theology, it is said to be one of 381 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:57,039 the sins crying to have in for vengeance. That's why this is so subversive, 382 00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,960 is because this is now ushering in the blessing of people who have the 383 00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:07,039 intent. And it's everybody knows that to do immortal said in Roman Catholic the 384 00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:15,679 els. So Tim argues correctly that paragraph eleven contradicts paragraph thirty one in Francis's 385 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:25,559 new document, basing itself on the CDF. Blah blah blah. It is 386 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:30,840 not possible for the church to bless right or have a liturgical celebration for this. 387 00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:37,360 And here's what loft dog and everyone who ain't changed nothing, I don't 388 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:45,599 it ain't change none the right heard all. And then by thirty one here 389 00:44:45,639 --> 00:45:02,480 appears the possibility of blessings for couples. Couples in irregular situations, by the 390 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,320 way, is that just people living together or is that like mom and son? 391 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,320 I mean what we don't know, right, it's and couples of couples. 392 00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:19,519 Does it say adamized individual units, lying pope slainer people. No, 393 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:25,400 it says couples. So that ends all of the liars. That woman on 394 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,800 Twitter who's trying to talk smack and wouldn't debate me. I offered her debate. 395 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,360 She said, you can't read. You can't read? Oh really, 396 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,440 do you want to go into the I said, let's have a public debate 397 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,159 and we can go into the papal documents and see who can read. I'm 398 00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:45,039 busy, I got things going. I can't do that. Did you guys 399 00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:52,559 see that? Exactly? Sure? So there you go. It's clear as 400 00:45:52,599 --> 00:46:00,519 day a contradiction because what was all of the post Planner arguments. It's a 401 00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:06,079 blessing of two individual sinners at once. No, it's a blessing of couples, 402 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,599 because that's what the same people who got this pushed through were asking for 403 00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:15,880 in the nineties, dummies. So in the nineteen nineties, the son to 404 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,079 galland Cardinals Mcerrick Daniels had already been pushing for Brigolio to be elected. They 405 00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,639 pushed it in two thousand and five and in the twenty thirteen conclave. This 406 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,400 was in the nineteen nineties, and these were the pro Blessing faction. You 407 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:39,280 see twenty ten, arch Bishop Brigoglio comes out in Buenos Aires for civil unions. 408 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:49,639 So he wasn't even the pope yet and he's already in his jurisdiction pushing 409 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:55,679 for civil unions. Do you guys remember a few years ago when this happened 410 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,000 and they were pushing for it, And do you remembermember, remember met Fred? 411 00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:06,760 Mitfred's thumbnails and he's crying on his straight He's got thumbnails of Himseff crying. 412 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,320 What's with these He's pushing for civil unions that don't make a mistake. 413 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,960 No, let me, Pope's playing for the next five years. By the 414 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,559 way, Jay dawes mean, look at how pious I am on met Fred, 415 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,440 I'm super bious. And then by the way he invites people on to 416 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:28,960 be mean in debates, I'm not joking. Did you remember the klip where 417 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,519 he's like, guys, want to come on, you want to get hated, 418 00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:35,599 go ahead, go aady. But I'm still a bad person because I'm 419 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:40,079 mean. Remember that. Remember Eric Obara when he sues it's a civil union. 420 00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:45,599 He's not talking about merging the churches, just a public civil union and 421 00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:51,000 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. All 422 00:47:51,039 --> 00:48:00,679 of these people are wrong and I was right. Where's the apologies? Because 423 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,800 I told them, I've been saying since two thousand and seven, this is 424 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,760 the pathway to skittles marriage. Are we at skills marriage yet? No? 425 00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:16,719 This is the pathway? Nummies? Do you think these apostate goblin cardinals total 426 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,760 demons? You think they're not smart enough to figure out how to ease you 427 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:31,880 into these positions? You are SAPs who buy into this. And because I 428 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,320 told you, your SAPs, you're furious at me. And what have we 429 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,320 had for years? Now? Think of all the podcasts, all the live 430 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,000 streams, all the tweets, all the attempts to get me deplatformed by these 431 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,880 goblin trad cats and these goblin Roman Catholics for so many years, and here 432 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:57,760 we are with total vindication. So here's my extension to you, guys. 433 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,519 I don't want to be your enemy. I want to be your friends. 434 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:15,199 How's that? But the only pathway to that reconciliation is honesty. Does that 435 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:22,400 makes sense? And a lot of the problems that you have with Orthodoxy, 436 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,199 maybe it's time to rethink the position. Maybe you didn't hear good arguments. 437 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,280 Maybe you heard bad arguments for Orthodoxy. Maybe you just latched onto easy, 438 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,679 lazy approaches to why I'm a bad person and didn't hear me out. Maybe 439 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:43,199 now it's time to hear us out because a lot of what we've been saying 440 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,679 for twenty years, no, thirty years, no fifty, no a thousand 441 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:55,679 years has been correct. So back to the timeline. So remember the first 442 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,679 thing was to say, hey, look, not in the church, guys, 443 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:06,519 but for the civil legal sphere, the secular sphere, maybe those people 444 00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:10,880 should have their libertarian freedom, they should be able to have a civil union. 445 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:19,320 That's the stage one. Twenty twenty, Pope Francis, I'll excuse me. 446 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,840 Twenty fourteen, Pope Francis makes a midterm report the first Synod that extoles 447 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:30,800 from Francis a positive aspect for skittles. And this was a big deal at 448 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,440 the time. Everybody's whoa, what, what and what did all the Pope 449 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:45,000 spleeners do at that time? It's not official, it doesn't count. So 450 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:49,559 we got Roman Catholics in the in the chat doing the whatabouts what about the 451 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:53,159 Greek Orthodox archdiocese, what about the blah blah blah blah. No, no, 452 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,000 I'd say, here we go. Romikalocs are in the chat. Oh, 453 00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:01,000 you're just mad. He doesn't know what he's talking about. What do 454 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,280 you mean, I don't know what I'm talking I'm showing you the documents from 455 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,239 one of your top guys. I don't know what I'm talking about. Is 456 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,400 this not a two thousand and three rat Singer rejection of blessings? Do you 457 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:20,880 want me to put it in the chat for you lazy liars? Don't know 458 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,880 what I'm talking about. Stop lying to yourselves. Look, there you go? 459 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,679 Or won't even it's so long the URL won't even let me put it 460 00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:34,400 in there. Done. See, you don't even have arguments. You guys 461 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,920 are pathetic. You don't even have an argument. You just have I'm bad. 462 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,639 I don't know what I'm talking about. Evil, bad man, bad 463 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,239 man, he's mean blah blah blahlah blah. There it is right there. 464 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:51,239 You can't do the blessings, And here it is right here within the out 465 00:51:51,639 --> 00:52:00,559 line, the horizon outline, there can be blessings. There you go. 466 00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:05,039 That is a contradiction and look, if you can't see that's a contradiction, 467 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,719 then don't why are you even here? Just go do your Roman Catholic thing 468 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,719 and put your head in the sand. What do you mean, where do 469 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:24,960 you go? What do you think we argue over here? So they're like, 470 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,360 but you have problems in your church. You have liberal bishops. Yeah, 471 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,159 I know, but we're not a papal system. Can you not understand 472 00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:43,679 that a decentralized system has the means, the mechanisms for you to not have 473 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,280 to submit to a liberal You can't reject Francis. The system that you're in 474 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,679 doesn't allow you the escape patch of well, I'll just go to a different 475 00:52:53,599 --> 00:53:00,320 bishop who's not heterodox or not liberal. In the Orthodox world, that's possible. 476 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:04,159 In the Roman Catholic world, it doesn't work that way. You don't 477 00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:07,239 get to choose the popes. You don't get to reinterpret Francis. No one 478 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:15,239 judges the first Sea Vatican One has at least four statements about how you don't 479 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:22,199 have the rights as an individual Catholic to judge what the interpretations not just of 480 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:29,480 the pope, but also of the Roman College and the Holy Office say. 481 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,440 Do you want me to help you again with those to explain those to you. 482 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:44,719 The Pontifical Congregation and the common teachings of its theological decisions are to be 483 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:53,840 followed and may not be reinterpreted or rejected. Denzinger seventeen ninety two, sixteen 484 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,599 ninety eight, and sixteen eighty three. Okay, lazy Roman Catholics, do 485 00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:01,000 you even know what Denzinger is? Do you want me to reread those? 486 00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,920 I know you guys are slow. Let's start it over. Got to remember 487 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:15,559 our numbers. Seventeen ninety two, sixteen ninety eight, and sixteen eighty three. 488 00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:20,440 Those places in Denzinger allow Vatican one. They're from Vatican one. Do 489 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:24,039 not give you the right, the authority, the position, the stance, 490 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,159 the moral authority to judge Francis, to judge Francis's decisions or his interpretations, 491 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,440 or the Roman College in the CDF's interpretations. So you are bound by this 492 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:40,320 document right here. And the fact that it says in another place that is 493 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:47,559 not changing teachings doesn't mean it's not changing the teachings. It just means it's 494 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:53,280 a contradiction, which Tim can figure out. But why can't you? What 495 00:54:53,440 --> 00:55:01,079 is the mind virus in you that makes you double down, get emotional and 496 00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:12,199 lie. And is this timeline not true? Did Tim make up this whole 497 00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,880 timeline? I mean, I've been watching the Roman Callolic Church throughout this whole 498 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:23,480 timeline. I saw all these things happen, the positive aspects. Twenty fourteen, 499 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,519 the world is in an uproar and the Pope's planner is going to overtime. 500 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,360 No, it doesn't mean what it says. It means, and it 501 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:38,000 means blah blah blah blah blah blah boo, it doesn't mean. Twenty twenty, 502 00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:45,639 Pope Francis announces to the world in the Francesco documentary that now the civil 503 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:54,679 unions are necessary, and Tim has all of this linked for you. All 504 00:55:54,719 --> 00:56:00,480 of the images are linked. What a great uh bit of sourcing he did 505 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:12,039 there, super well documented. June twenty twenty one, the CDF Ladarius says 506 00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:16,599 that it releases a document denying that you can have the blessings in question that 507 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:22,760 angers Francis. So notice that they reverse the position that they so. The 508 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,719 twenty twenty one document from the Congregation of the Doctrin of Faith is reasserting the 509 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,679 two thousand and three ratsing or position from the CDF. You see that. 510 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:37,360 Okay, so it reasserts it twenty twenty one. By the way, this 511 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,760 came up with the Orthodox Church at that time, and I shared that as 512 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,119 well. It was from that tablet article. Let me see if I can 513 00:56:46,159 --> 00:57:07,639 find it, Francis, okay, Union tablent. And then now this headline 514 00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:15,760 is funny because it's really deceptive, right, Russian Church backs Vatican on same 515 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,599 Skittle's blessings. Now, if you just read the headline, you think that, 516 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,840 oh well, that means now that the Russian Church is on the on 517 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,639 board with Francis. No. No, look at what the article. This 518 00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:31,559 is from twenty twenty one, dummies. Read what it says. The Russian 519 00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:38,480 Orthodox Church has backed the twenty twenty one decision by the CDF to bar the 520 00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:44,800 blessing of the unions. Okay, can we follow along? Does everybody have 521 00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:52,320 the IQ to follow this basic point from twenty twenty one? Okay, so 522 00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:58,039 kiro, but what Russian word our church says we agree with you at this 523 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:02,079 point, Francis twenty twenty one that you can't. But actually it wasn't, 524 00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:07,639 Francis. This was the CDF stating the older rat Singer position that it can't 525 00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:10,840 bless unions. You can't have a blessing of that. And the Russian Orthodox 526 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,039 Church said we agree with that. That made Francis mad, Not the Russian 527 00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:21,559 position, the CDF statement of twenty twenty one right there, see, that 528 00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:31,440 made Francis mad. Twenty one the Ladaria had been censoring this leader from the 529 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,719 German Sonoda Way. That's a movement within Romanthosism, one of these liberal movements 530 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,119 within their system. When you hear Sonodole, they don't mean the Orthodox view 531 00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:46,079 of synods. They mean like women should be running the church and skittles should 532 00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:50,760 be running the church. That's what's what's meant by sonodal Way in their system. 533 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,920 Right. So Francis says, all right, well, I'm going to 534 00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,519 replace the people over there at the CDF that are annoying me with this traditional 535 00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:08,760 morals morality. Francis seeks to demote Ladaria and replace him with Wilmer. The 536 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:16,320 cardinals block this because there were still some not totally corrupt cardinals I guess right 537 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:22,920 at this point, and maybe still but we'll look at that in a minute. 538 00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:31,639 So then Francis uh fires he replacing it, replaces them with this other 539 00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:39,239 liberal person Wilmer Summer twenty twenty three. Francis disinvites Ladaria from attending his synod 540 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,679 September October. Francis Fernandez answer the Dubia. So remember the Dubia from a 541 00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,599 while back. That's what he's talking about here where we have ambiguous questions. 542 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,559 Francis give us clarity. Remember the papacy there to give us clarity, doctrinal 543 00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:59,239 unity, clarity, certitude, all those things that the pop Roman Catholic apologists 544 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,719 have been selling you with their car salesman pitch. You can't have certainty orthodoxy, 545 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,480 dog yo. If you come up over well, well, go to 546 01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,519 us. You will get started to remember Lofton, that's his like ninety percent 547 01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:16,559 of his five hour podcasts. Is that where's the certainty? Hmmm? I 548 01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:21,719 thought we're getting certainty to this. Well, let's ask Francis for certitude on 549 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,639 what he means by the analogy between a man and a man uniting and a 550 01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:30,800 man and a woman uniting. And we got answers in the Dubia. And 551 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,280 what did the popsplinters say? Who's who's not infallible? So Francis now gives 552 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:42,800 us as a Christmas present, twink Old twinkle Little Star, What does he 553 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:57,519 give us as a Christmas present? A very clear normative teaching that now that 554 01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:15,320 an accident, Now what was what was the phrase? Let's see now the 555 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:22,920 blessings are possible, right, So remember the Dubia of September October of twenty 556 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:30,599 twenty three, doctrinal reversal. So they noticed that tim can realize that this 557 01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:37,440 is a reversal. It's clear as they are reversal, and they're all the 558 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:43,119 Roman cap the popetliners are deflecting and saying, no, no, it's it's 559 01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:46,719 a blessing of two centers in union, yeah, exactly, which is a 560 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,599 reversal of the position. So they're deflecting away from whether it was a diversal 561 01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:57,000 a reversal, to debate the ethics of the thing itself. Well, number 562 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:02,280 one, the point is that it's a reversal as well as being ethically a 563 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:09,920 compromise in the Roman Catholic scheme of moral theology. And so December Francis publishes 564 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:20,400 his recent declara rio where it can now be blessed. So this timeline shows 565 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,599 you that it is a change in position. What I showed you from the 566 01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:30,119 two thousand and three rat Singer decision to the new document is that the blessings 567 01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:35,400 themselves are a changed and all the Roman Catholic liars are saying is not a 568 01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:38,320 change because the document says it's not a change. No, it's that just 569 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,760 shows a contradiction that hasn't proved that it's not a change. And by the 570 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,360 way, what is the actual practicus of all of the Roman Catholic Church when 571 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,920 this happens, Well, not all of it, but a large portion of 572 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,400 it, which is already skills. Oh, they're going crazy with it. 573 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,119 James Martin says, here's what we've been looking for. Thank you, Francis. 574 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,559 But through husband been a change. Let's look through the links that Tim 575 01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:21,400 has. So I think it cut out for a minute. Ear were back, 576 01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:30,119 Yeah, we should be back, So we'll be uh over there here 577 01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:35,440 in a little bit. You can watch it there with the Babylon guys. 578 01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:46,960 But back to Tim's timeline where he says this was I think this is Tim's 579 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:58,440 showing the cardinals blocking the appointment controversial Bishop Wilmer. That's pro skittles. So 580 01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:04,079 I mean, imagine the dishonesty of the Roman Catholic guys and girls and journalists 581 01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:09,280 defending all of this when the very people that are being put into positions of 582 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,440 power to make these changes by Francis are openly for the very things in question. 583 01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:21,000 I mean, it's just so stupid. See twenty thirteen. Daniels says, 584 01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:24,559 let's do it. These are the people making these moves now, dummies, 585 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:32,440 you can't see this. They all want to change the morals. They're 586 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,400 all operating and acting to do it. They actually do it in the documents. 587 01:04:36,719 --> 01:04:41,039 The Roman Galley Church then actually does it in a lot of tons and 588 01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:45,679 tons of parishes, and the liars are sitting so nothing's changed, nothing changed, 589 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:57,159 nothing's changed, of course he does. But remember when we were saying 590 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,719 five six years ago that this was coming, what was the charitable interpretation of 591 01:05:02,719 --> 01:05:06,559 the Roman Catholics. You're a bad person, You're evil, You're the bad 592 01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:11,559 you, and you know it's you and your leaders that are the bad people, 593 01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:15,840 not us. And know the Orthodox Church does not have the same degree 594 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,719 of this problem. We've got a lot of problems with Orthodox Church. Absolutely, 595 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:26,119 this is not one of the main problems. There are skittles people in 596 01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:29,960 the church. There are skittles people trying to change the church, not anywhere 597 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:36,400 near what's happening over here. So anyway, you can go read the documents 598 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:43,199 themselves. You can see Tim's timeline is absolutely correct. Tim even included videos 599 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,079 for the people who can't even read the one page documents, right, But 600 01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:58,039 there you go. And again, I mean, the people defending this, 601 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,079 like, where have you been for the last ten or twenty years of this 602 01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:08,639 debate raging in the Roman Catholic Church with all of the players wanting to change 603 01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:12,000 the doctrine and the morals who are now in the position to do it and 604 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,719 then actually do it, And you're sitting there acting like nothing changed, and 605 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:25,119 nobody's you're I mean, it's dishonest, and everybody can see it's a lie. 606 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:30,840 And what has been your response to talk about how you rely on what 607 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:38,920 happened at church? Militant two weeks ago? The very guy leading one of 608 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:48,880 the trad charges against everybody else turns out skittles. Are you noticing a pattern 609 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:59,400 here? Now? Again? To emphasize and demonstrate the change. In fifteen 610 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:06,199 sixty, Pope Pious the fifth, one of their Saints, issued a constitution 611 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:17,079 called kum premium yes cum premium pun intended where skittles, he says, should 612 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:29,119 receive the most rigorous punishment skittles clerics should be handed over pious argues to the 613 01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:38,199 civil state for you got it. So imagine these goober, lunatic, dishonest, 614 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:46,119 lying people when their pope at the time of Trent says that it's deserving 615 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:53,440 of the death penalty. Fast forward to Francis. This is talking about the 616 01:07:53,480 --> 01:08:00,320 civil punishment. To Francis now saying that they should be allowed civil skittles unions. 617 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,719 And they have the gall to tell you nothing in Roman Catholic moral theology 618 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:13,559 changed. That's called lying and lying to yourself and lying to other people. 619 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:20,760 I'm pretty sure in Roguntholicism is a big sin. Go read past the fifths 620 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:26,159 Declaration and you're gonna tell me nothing changed. They have the gall to tell 621 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:33,800 you the sunk gaul in mafia to tell you nothing changed. Do you understand, 622 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:40,640 stupid people, slow people? Civil unions fifteen sixty six was considered death 623 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:47,760 penalty according to this pope kum Primum April first, fifteen sixty six. Fast 624 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:53,279 forward to Francis. Not only is Frances saying that the civil unions in the 625 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:59,439 secular sphere should be allowed. Now the church can bless the union it's now 626 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,520 emerged. So nothing's changed, Nothing's changed, Nothing has changed. That's what 627 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:13,680 these people are saying. Nothing has changed. And even the Roman Catholics now 628 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,319 are forced to admit these are some good points. Yeah, I've got other 629 01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:19,800 good points too, man. And look, I wasn't your enemy five years 630 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:25,199 ago when I was saying this stuff, because I've already lived the trad nightmare 631 01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:30,520 of trying to make this system work from two thousand and three till two thousand 632 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:42,239 and nine ten somewhere in there. So there you go. Time to rethink 633 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:47,199 the paradigm, time to consider orthodoxy. And look, Tim's stream was great. 634 01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:51,560 I recommend watching it because pretty much everything he says is absolutely spot on. 635 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,239 The one thing I disagree with Tim, though, is that Tim thinks 636 01:09:55,319 --> 01:10:02,239 that this, this group within the Conclave that has blocked some of Francis's more 637 01:10:02,359 --> 01:10:09,800 radical changes, can somehow band together and like Judge Francis or something. No. 638 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,079 Sorry, First of all, I don't think that Catholic theology ken in 639 01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:17,359 law will allow even the Cardinals. No one can judge the First Sea, 640 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:24,840 and that includes the Cardinals. The appeal to Bellerman I don't think is relevant, 641 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:30,119 because I mean, we're post we're post Bellerman a lot of Vatican one. 642 01:10:30,279 --> 01:10:33,239 Vatican one settled a lot of these issues about could it pope be a 643 01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:36,840 heretic? And if you read Dollinger you'll see that Dollinger discusses a lot of 644 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:42,079 these issues, a lot of the things going on at the debates of Vatican 645 01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:45,800 One, and in my mind, as I understand it, all that's been 646 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,800 settled, Vatican one settle a lot of those open questions like could the Pope 647 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,239 be a heretic? Could the Pope teach error? Vatican One's answers, No, 648 01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:01,479 I can I link to it? Yeah, I've linked to it multiple 649 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:08,319 times. It's in the chat. Here's the link again in the chat to 650 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:14,479 pious. Remember remember though there's no change, nothing changed, and the trackads 651 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:19,000 are fighting on Twitter because you can't they it's the problem is the system itself. 652 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:26,399 Okay, you can do all the mental gymnastics and scholastic work to make 653 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,479 the system fit, and it doesn't. We don't even need that anymore, 654 01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:34,920 like the I'm gonna be a Toomas to make it all work. It's way 655 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:43,039 past that. Rome has already now moved on light years beyond you into moral 656 01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:46,159 decay that is now public that everyone can see. So if you couldn't see 657 01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:50,399 Pacha Mama, and you couldn't see the Asezi gatherings where all the world religions 658 01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:56,439 are praying together in the Cathedral Saint Francis c C with voodoo worshipers there. 659 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,880 If you can't see that as Aposta see, and you can't see the kissing 660 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,239 of the Koran and all the countless things that have been going on since Vatican 661 01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:13,720 Two, and you can't see that this is a change, then maybe you 662 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,159 can't see it. It's just forgive it, forget it. Sorry. Set 663 01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:20,640 of a contism is not gonna work. So we go, oh and I 664 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,560 I've already been through all this right, They're like, oh, but what 665 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,279 about SETA Well, I would direct you to this talk where I did a 666 01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:35,680 three hour breakdown of why set of a contism doesn't work and actually it leads 667 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:42,520 you to orthodoxy. So that's not tonight's stream. You can go watch that 668 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,199 here. I'll put the link in the chat for you. I'll link the 669 01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:48,760 chat later on. But tonight we have a show I gotta go do, 670 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,359 so I'll be over there. Not much else to say, I mean, 671 01:12:51,399 --> 01:12:56,760 if you want deeper analysis from Roman Catholics. Go watch Tim's video. Watch 672 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,720 this video on why set of a contism isn't gonna work because I already know 673 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,840 the thought process. Now all the Roman Catholics are like, well, maybe 674 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,880 I'll go to the SSPX and the set of a contest route. Guess what, 675 01:13:05,039 --> 01:13:10,039 that's a nightmare and it's not gonna work. And there is why we 676 01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,840 got some super chats. I'll read those really quick. Head on over to 677 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,920 chalk dot com. Remember to use the promo code J fifty to get fifty 678 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:20,760 percent off all of these premium antisoy products. And uh, I think with 679 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:27,279 tonight's stream, we definitely need some antisoy. We need an antidote to the 680 01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:30,600 soy. That antidote is in part chok dot com. Head on over to 681 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,000 chalk dot com us from go J fifty to get fifty percent off that performance 682 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,840 stack. 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I have probably five hundred videos and talks on that. Go 692 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:27,840 watch those countless. I mean, we've got probably five or ten on Vatican 693 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,119 one. We've got five or ten of Vatican two. I probably got twenty 694 01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:33,960 or thirty live streams on the papacy, twenty or thirty live streams on church 695 01:14:34,039 --> 01:14:39,600 history and forgeries on the Vatic, I mean on the Jesuites. Hear what 696 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,000 you said. You don't need to hear what I said. Get out of 697 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,479 here, Siri, We don't need you. Hush right, Josh says, 698 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,239 he five dollars. I'm curious, why do you turn on a papacy debate 699 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:54,159 with Trent? No? I requested a geopolitics and history of the papacy debate 700 01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:57,600 with Trent, and Trent didn't want to do that. Trent only wanted to 701 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,800 have the same old debate on the papacy, which has been had a million 702 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,319 times. So that's what happened. I wasn't turning down a debate on the 703 01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:11,119 papacy. I said, will anyone debate the geopolitics and history of the papacy? 704 01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:15,079 And none of them will. No Roman Catholic will debate that to date. 705 01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:16,520 And by the way, it's still open if somebody does want to, 706 01:15:17,319 --> 01:15:25,079 because my argument is that you haven't been free from the state in state influence. 707 01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:30,600 But they won't debate that. Many Roman Catholics and Orthodox will benefit from 708 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,960 two smart people debating the topic. Well. I mean, Ubi's had countless 709 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:41,279 debates on the papacy. I debated Eric Ibara on that, so are those 710 01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:44,640 not good enough? Like? How many times does the how many times you 711 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,199 have to have the papacy debate? There's a million papacy debates and they're always 712 01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:53,279 the same debate. Will you debate a well known Roman Catholic on this? 713 01:15:54,279 --> 01:16:00,359 I want to debate something more interesting than the same old papacy debate and none 714 01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:06,039 of them will do it period period. Are you going to debate Timothy Gordon? 715 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,159 Everybody's waiting. We were going to debate ols since entergy as sinctioned in 716 01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:15,760 Nashville, but I ended up getting super busy with going to Italy and doing 717 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,279 all that. I didn't have time to arrange that. I'm not gonna have 718 01:16:18,319 --> 01:16:23,000 time around Christmas to arrange it. So I don't know when or how that's 719 01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:26,920 going to work out. But maybe down the road, living to become love 720 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,720 three dollars. Have you ever heard of the prophecy of Malachi about the last 721 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,439 Pope? Yeah, I've heard it since the year two thousand and two, 722 01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:36,720 So yeah, I don't have any interest in any of that. I think 723 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:43,039 again, I'm not interested in Realman Catholic mysticism and in time stuff. I 724 01:16:43,079 --> 01:16:45,079 mean the set of an What happens is when you go instead of a contism, 725 01:16:45,079 --> 01:16:49,079 you end up in some kind of Roman Catholic in times cult. So 726 01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:53,039 Trainer Melissa, thank you so much. Twenty five dollars, much appreciated. 727 01:16:53,119 --> 01:16:59,079 Running up to Scow one dollar. What's Tim's position on the papacy? Are 728 01:16:59,079 --> 01:17:00,960 we not being cheered? Well? I think Tim is at the point where 729 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:08,560 he's considering that maybe there was scepterfuge in the election of Francis, and so 730 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,800 maybe Francis isn't a valid Pope, so that seems to be kind of what 731 01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:17,439 he's speculating on in his live streams in the position that he publicly says he 732 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,960 might. He entertains Peyton one dollar. Your shop disappeared, Yeah, the 733 01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:26,840 website. I'm doing some maintenance on the website, so don't worry. The 734 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,680 shop will be back. There's just some minor maintenance going on. BMX nineteen 735 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,119 sixty six fifteen dollars. Thank you so much, BMX, much appreciated.