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Thanks for getting your pot on, 10 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,079 Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about the pirate 11 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:21,239 ship. Boy Today, fourth of July, I got a freedom fighter in 12 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,000 here, somebody I've cross passed with a few times. And then I ran 13 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,319 into somewhere and said to me, I didn't think you liked man. I 14 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:33,519 didn't think you liked man. Why? Well, because I tend to be 15 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:36,719 quite polarizing in this community. You are, But I mean that doesn't mean 16 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,599 anything. People's you have to remember like an opinion in my world, right 17 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,359 you get people a yeah, right, Oh, it's halfway between fact and 18 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,640 fiction, is by definition? Right, And just because we don't maybe see 19 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,680 things the same way, is it? I that's the problem. Listen, 20 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Jennon, that's the problem. Listen when I got I don't think that's properly. 21 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:06,359 I sh Enjoy film Maria Well. Shann Enjoys the executive producer and host 22 00:02:06,359 --> 00:02:09,599 of The Shannon Enjoy Show, which is weekdays nine till ten on WAM eleven 23 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,240 eighty on News Radio AM eleven eighty, UM five pm. We do a 24 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,800 live event on rumbull and Twitter. So it is video. Rumble is like 25 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,520 a YouTube. It's a it's a freedom fighting YouTube. Everyone who gets kicked 26 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,719 off of YouTube for their contrarian views moves over to Rumball. Okay, So 27 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,319 Russell Brand is over at Rumball. Okay, Joe Rogan is No, he's 28 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:37,080 at Spotify. Um, who do we have over there? I mean a 29 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,360 lot of Viva Fray. You probably don't know who he is, but it's 30 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,159 it's essentially yes, I don't really yeah, I don't know. So we 31 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,199 do a live We run the show live on Twitter, live on Rumball. 32 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Then we are doing on Twitter. Twitter used to have periscope. My producers 33 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,960 are wizards. Okay, they're wizards. I don't know how they do this, 34 00:02:57,199 --> 00:02:59,199 yeah, but they're able to do it. We're one of the very 35 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:06,080 first full feature, full length shows on Twitter. And it's exciting because now 36 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:13,599 we have Tucker Carlson who is platforming his show exclusively on Twitter, and so 37 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,960 they're trying to move that platform into the space into a rumble YouTube type of 38 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,000 space, which I think they can probably do, so that's pretty exciting. 39 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:28,439 Then at six pm, we upload everything to every conceivable podcast platform can imagine, 40 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:34,759 like you're doing Spotify, Stitcher, Tandora, iTunes. And then at 41 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:38,159 nine pm we take the best of that show and we air it on who 42 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:44,759 Does. Because you're and I say that and it sounds almost condescending, and 43 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,199 we've left my mouth and I don't mean, I don't mean it like that. 44 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,439 That's okay, But I know you're a mom and you're very active with 45 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,960 your kids, and you're married, and you and your husband do a lot 46 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,560 of things together, and a marriage, any relationship, you have to tend 47 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 to it. Oh sure, right, so and nine it's a time when 48 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,479 it's kind of family time, right, you're putting the kids to bed, 49 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:04,159 You're doing this sort of thing. And I don't know how old your kids 50 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:08,599 are now, but right right, So do you have people that are able 51 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:12,159 to do that for you? Yes, okay, I contract. People don't 52 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:14,759 realize this, but I do contract with news radio. I'm eleven eighty. 53 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,720 I'm not an employee of iHeart or the station. So I purchase my airtime 54 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,160 from them, and then I retain commercial inventory and I resell my inventory in 55 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,279 the show and on the station. So that's an arrangement we've had for five 56 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:31,240 years, and they're wonderful and so they give me a little bit of production 57 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,480 help with that. So there are people that help me as part of my 58 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,560 contracts. Oh how nice? Okay. And then I also the video portion 59 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,920 of my show. I work with on a fifty fifty profit share with a 60 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:47,319 fantastic production team down in Florida. So I send them my interviews, my 61 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,199 segments. They package it up, they make it look beautiful, they put 62 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:57,319 the uppers in the lowers, and also help me secure my national advertisers, 63 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,879 which we are now starting to get because of the video portion. So I 64 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,720 have my I have a foot in Rochester, New York that is very localized 65 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:09,680 with local sponsors, and then I have a national footprint as well as we're 66 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,600 building national sponsors. So it's to talk to you. Oh absolutely, listen. 67 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:16,199 I do it the hard way. This is not no no, I 68 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:21,279 mean it looks it's the hard I'll say this. The independent lane is great, 69 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:25,480 right, it's fantastic. I mean I have the space that you came 70 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:29,839 in and you have your stuff going on, and uh there's nobody there to 71 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,240 get in your way. But there's nobody there to get in your way or 72 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:36,279 help you right right right, So that's where you know you're doing it. 73 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:41,959 And I I was, I don't think you know exactly what you're getting into 74 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,680 until you're in it, and then it's like shit, it's too late now, 75 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,560 you know what I mean? So that that's the that's the stuff. 76 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:51,600 How would you describe yourself? How would you describe Shannon Joy? If someone 77 00:05:51,639 --> 00:05:57,759 said, you know, what's the elevator pitch on you? Well, what 78 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,399 would I call? How would I describe myself? I would say, I 79 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:03,560 mean, I know it's cliche. And you mentioned being a freedom fighter, 80 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:11,160 But I would say I've always just been very independent and I love freedom. 81 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:15,279 Like the scariest thing to me is a cage in any sense of the word, 82 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,759 right, physically, psychologically, emotionally, like I want to I've always 83 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:27,240 wanted to be able to be authentic and to be myself and to do things 84 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:33,519 according to my own morals and values and beliefs. And I thought I never 85 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,879 thought that was controversial Bill when I started this show ten years ago. Everything 86 00:06:39,879 --> 00:06:43,920 I've gotten into since then is usually starts with me asking kind of an innocent 87 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,279 question that I thought was self evident. Right, even on the vaccine issue. 88 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,439 I got into this posting on Twitter eight years ago that I think people 89 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:57,839 should decide whether or not they want to get a vaccine. I'm like, 90 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:00,519 this is this is a no brainer, right. Never never did I realize 91 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:08,079 that that was I mean, that is is going against such a dogmatic, 92 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:14,040 almost religious like belief system in this country, right, that is entangled with 93 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:17,439 you know, pharmaceutical corporations in the government. And you just don't realize this 94 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,800 stuff when you when you get into it. But you know, I've never 95 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:29,600 I never say things to harm people or hurt people or be controversial. It 96 00:07:29,639 --> 00:07:32,439 just so happens that the concept of freedom, like true, authentic, like 97 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:38,560 real freedom in liberty is very controversial, and it always has been four thousand 98 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,839 years of humans. I think part of it is. And I don't know 99 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:46,240 if I'm right or wrong, but I always think like, Okay, you 100 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,279 have the right to say something. I don't have to agree with it or 101 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:53,879 support it, but you should have the right to do it, you know 102 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:56,560 what I'm saying. I think that in all on all things. And that's 103 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,000 where on the other side, I often think when I this is going to 104 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,399 sound really strange, but I sometimes think, like when we say words like 105 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,759 fight, it's so resistant and so pushing against that we get nowhere right. 106 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:11,720 And I always change those things. And the only example I can really give 107 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:16,959 would be anytime I have I know somebody who has the dreaded cancer and somebody 108 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:18,879 goes, oh, they're fighting, they're battling, they're fighting, and I 109 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,199 go, no, they're living with they're living with. And I change that 110 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:26,319 only because I think words have power. I really really do, and I 111 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,839 think that they it's kind of can change. You can change your mindset right 112 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,000 every every subjects to subjects, right, there's the negative end and the positive 113 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,639 end, and it depending on where you want to go. And I know, 114 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:41,519 like for the vaccine issue, and you and I have talked about this, 115 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,440 I know many people who didn't want to have it right and they so 116 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,279 they just didn't do it. But they didn't they didn't go where you were 117 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:58,720 loud about it, and I think sometimes to raise it, to raise it 118 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,360 up. I did get it because my mom was very concerned and I couldn't 119 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,639 come visit and blah blah, and I thought, I don't care. I 120 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:09,039 put so much stuff in this vessel for many minute. I'm proud of that. 121 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,759 I'm just saying I did I get it, So I thought, okay, 122 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:16,320 However, to your point, I never get a flu shot, so 123 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:22,919 you wouldn't normally have gotten it if probably not without the societal pressure, without 124 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:28,039 well from what I thought was preventing people from getting sick. And I didn't 125 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,799 want to see I didn't want to have that on my conscience that I got 126 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,759 someone. I was a carrier, and I spread in all this and maybe 127 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:41,039 I didn't do enough research on it and I didn't look at it so well. 128 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:46,080 I did what's very normal what most people did, and they trusted health 129 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,240 authorities, they trusted their doctors, they trusted the government, which I don't 130 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:58,480 know why anyone trusted trusted well, but there's oftentimes like we had a guy 131 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:05,200 we talked about out Juneteenth and I had a black gentleman come on and just 132 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:07,600 kind of say why it's important, right and again, freedom right. I 133 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,240 mean that that that's about freedom right. There's but that's no, but I'm 134 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,600 just saying that's freedom right. That was the day that people actually became free. 135 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,360 And uh he said that you know, one of the things in terms 136 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:24,080 of like a subtle racism, and this will go back to the government, 137 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,519 is that when crack addicts would be around people like lock them up, lock 138 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,919 them up. Then when they opioid epidemic, kids were like, oh, 139 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:35,000 well that's open clinics and let's right, because it's more opioids affects white people 140 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,919 crack black people. And then he said crack was a CIA deal, that 141 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:48,919 they were trying to launder money and they couldn't fund uh contraband down south, 142 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:52,159 that the government wanted to do so since it didn't get past they this was 143 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,120 their workaround and they started crack and that's how they made their I went, 144 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,840 what. So then I look it up and I go, holy shit, 145 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:05,200 Now, so that's your government. Oh yeah, okay. Then I watched 146 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:09,480 the Arnold documentary, which I loved. Okay, and then I said, 147 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,080 I got to watch the movie Twins. And the movie Twins is about government, 148 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,759 right, And they tell the woman the kids die, they take him. 149 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:20,320 They do this. There's a documentary for real right now on triplets on 150 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,480 Hulu where one was sent to a rich family, one was sent to a 151 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,200 middle class family, and one was sent to a poor family. Oh my 152 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,200 word, it's a documentary the government did that. Listen and all and all. 153 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,279 We'll ask me all the time, they say, well, I get 154 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,799 so. I hate this, Shannon, because I don't want to be conspiracy 155 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,879 theory. I'm telling you. People tell me all the time. Now, 156 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,759 I'm naturally curious. That's why I have this show. That's what I do 157 00:11:46,759 --> 00:11:50,840 what That's why I do what I do. And people accuse me of being 158 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:54,600 a conspiracy theorist all the time. But you can't unsee these things. The 159 00:11:54,240 --> 00:12:01,559 Tuskegee experiments, they injected African Americans with Syphilis's part of a a secret experimentation, 160 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:07,360 the human Experimentation conducted in prisons across this country. There are there is 161 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:13,120 no depth to the depravity and to the evil things that governments will do to 162 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,600 their citizens. And we tend to export that to China or Russia, the 163 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,000 fascist, the communist, the socialists, but we aren't seeing where it is 164 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,240 here in the US, where there is an element and you have to be 165 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:31,000 And when you say you don't want to say the word fight, I understand. 166 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,720 I understand that. I'm only just saying that. It just seems like 167 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:37,279 when we're pushing against something so hard, we get more of it. Well, 168 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:41,679 but here's the deal, Okay. In the dark days of twenty twenty 169 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:48,240 and twenty one, there was a concerted effort, multi billion dollar effort at 170 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:52,679 every level of the government, from the media, from our health organizations, 171 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:58,120 local health organizations, to force and coerce people to take these vaccines against their 172 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:01,120 will. Now, if it I would have had problem with problems with the 173 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,559 vaccines just in the in the rush to get them done, they you know, 174 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,519 they sped up the process. It was completely shoddy. You cannot do 175 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,279 long term safety testing in one year. You just cannot do it. It 176 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:16,600 doesn't matter how brilliant the government is they don't have a time machine. They 177 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:22,799 can't look out ten fifteen years to see what an mrnasynthetic platform injected into people's 178 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,759 bodies is going to do in ten years. So that was absurd. I 179 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:28,080 would have had a problem with that. But if someone wants to get it 180 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,759 and put it in their body again, I'm okay with that. You have 181 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,240 to. It was the coercion that was moving towards force, and there was 182 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,559 a dehumanization effort against the unvaccinated. You remember Joe Biden in the State of 183 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,799 the Union address where he said the unvaccinated probably twenty five times, and dehumanize 184 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,799 that population of people. I believe if there weren't people like me and the 185 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,679 people who are standing up against this across the country and fighting at that moment, 186 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,559 I believe they would have achieved probably in ninety five to ninety nine percent 187 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:05,200 uptick r rate and there would not be a placebo group. Right now, 188 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,080 there are thirty five percent is the latest estimate of Americans refused the COVID nineteen 189 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:15,039 vaccines, and they have been They've lost jobs, they've lost family, they've 190 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:16,720 lost friends. I've lost half of my friends. I've lost most of my 191 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,240 friends well, I can understand that you're my friends still, but that's good. 192 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,759 But well, come on now. But so it was, it was 193 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,200 great dress standing up and not taking that vaccine well came with a lot of 194 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:33,559 baggage, and so I don't unless I'm pushed against a wall. Then the 195 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,519 hang on, daggirls. Here's here, I'm gonna go to the match. 196 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,960 Here's where you know I will. I know, I know you will. 197 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,399 But here's where I disagree with you in that I think you do. I 198 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,840 think you're you're loud. Like I have a friend right now, there was 199 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,080 a place in town, a restaurant, and you got very upset. Yeah 200 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,159 I did. I know, well I didn't get very But hang on a 201 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,440 second. Okay, if we're about freedom and their private enterprise, then that's 202 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,960 their choice as well. And I have another friend who he and his family 203 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,799 did not get vaccinated and he just decided I'm not going in and that was 204 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:09,279 fine and it was no big deal. And he goes, there will be 205 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,120 a time when everything lightens up again and I'll go back in there. And 206 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:16,320 that's where I'm saying, like, I think, let's explain to you my 207 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,039 thought. Hang on, this is where I think you come so hard sometimes 208 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 that people go, well, what the fuck, how come she can go 209 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:26,600 beedom? Freedom, freedom? But then when I want to do what I 210 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:30,279 want to do, now I'm an asshole that But that's not what happened. 211 00:15:30,879 --> 00:15:33,679 Number one, our backs were up against the wall. My mother lost her 212 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:39,799 job twenty five years Highland Hospital. She lost everything because she was unvaccinated. 213 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:45,759 My sister lost her job everything. I had George Watts Senior on my radio 214 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:50,279 program who lost his son. Who is George Watts. George Watts Senior is 215 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,120 now one of the source of one of the largest lawsuits brought by Children's Health 216 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:58,279 Defense. That's Bobby Kennedy's organization. He's amazing. Okay, George Watts came 217 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:02,919 on to my son. His son got the the fiser mr A vaccine and 218 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:10,799 was dead a month later, and it is confirmed that it was vaccine induced 219 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:15,320 myocarditis. There are bodies, There are dead bodies. There are women who 220 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,559 cannot have babies, There are miscarriages. There are debilitating lifelong illnesses like gian 221 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:26,440 bar syndrome, facial paralysis, the worst side effects you can imagine. Okay, 222 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,279 this is where we were at that time, and we were watching the 223 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:34,519 uptake, the coercion, the dehumanization, one business after another after another saying 224 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,919 no, no unvaccinated aloud. So this is what happened. I had nothing 225 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,240 to say about that particular restaurant and whatever their policies were, but they posted 226 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:51,759 a picture on their publicly, on their Facebook page, and it said essentially, 227 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,879 no unvaccinated allowed. Bring your vaccine cards. You are not permitted in 228 00:16:55,919 --> 00:17:00,559 this premise unless you bring your vaccine car. So I responded, this makes 229 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,559 me sad, and okay, okay, that's all. I wasn't loud. 230 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,720 I didn't fight, I didn't call names, I didn't say anything. I 231 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:11,480 said, this makes me sad. Now I am a public figure. People 232 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:15,759 picked up on it and it ended up getting big. But that wasn't because 233 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:21,720 of anything I did. They decided to exclude a population of human beings from 234 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:26,880 their premises because of their medical status. That is so dangerous. We are 235 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,839 so close. That is so dangerous, And from my estimation, I'm going 236 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,799 to fight like hell against that, the same way people would fight against excluding 237 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:41,039 a black person from a premise, excluding women from employment, excluding a certain 238 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:44,160 religious class of individuals. Well, I saw it is the same. It 239 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,000 was a civil rights issue. The courts are going to bear that out. 240 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:49,160 By the way I hear you on all that. The judges were winning court 241 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,200 cases on that. The only thing I can think at that time, and 242 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,079 it's how dare someone tell their employees you have to you have to a woman 243 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,759 of child bearing age, you have to get injected with an experimental product that 244 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:07,640 could affect your fertility in order to work here. And then to dangle that 245 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,799 in front of people and say you can't come to work, you can't feed 246 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:15,319 your kids, you can't pursue your life. That's to me, that's disgusting, 247 00:18:15,599 --> 00:18:17,920 right, I go, so you see, you see how I'm getting 248 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,519 right now? She is, So I see it. But my my, 249 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,440 it's like a medical rape. I consider that medical. But take it back, 250 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:27,039 take it back a step if you can, and think of it this 251 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:33,559 way like my therapist istic. No, I'll just take it back a step 252 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,160 and try to think from the standpoint of people who are being told this and 253 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,519 they don't want anybody to We didn't didn't. It was a terrible time. 254 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:48,680 The thing was we didn't know. I think nobody operated from a we want 255 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,559 to hurt you. It was we want to save you, not in the 256 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,160 lower levels. So your point. That's why I said, it made me 257 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,559 sad because this was a dark, terrible wine. But even but even over 258 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:02,160 there, they didn't want to exclude people. I get that he didn't want 259 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,000 to exclude people, but I'm saying the hospitals all this at least simple. 260 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:11,319 This is a very simple This is a simple person's way of looking at it. 261 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:15,279 But I think it was most people was that we have sick people who 262 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,640 are already compromised in some way. That's why they're here, and we will 263 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,160 want to make sure we can keep them as healthy as possible. I'm sure 264 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,759 the doctors and nurses thought that. I really believe that. Well, I 265 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,400 can't tell you they were pressured, and I'm sure they were. The administrators 266 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,599 of those hospitals right here in Rochester, New York. Every COVID positive patient 267 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,119 that walked through the door that was tested, they got three thousand dollars. 268 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Every patient they admitted for COVID nineteen they got another five thousand dollars. Every 269 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,559 patient they gave remdzeviere, they got another ten twelve thousand dollars. This is 270 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:48,759 the stuff that got on a ventilator. Yeah, they got forty thousand dollars 271 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:53,559 and every COVID patient that died in those hospitals alone, without their loved ones. 272 00:19:53,880 --> 00:20:00,440 Those administrators of those multi gazillion dollar institutions, as medical institu usians, 273 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,960 they raked in the cash right CARES money that came in. It's disgusting. 274 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:10,319 Well, it was the government trying to again I'll say I'm gonna I'm gonna 275 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:14,119 say it from this side. I think the government was trying to incentify hospitals 276 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,400 to take people that could spread something that could kill a lot of people. 277 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,720 We didn't know. I mean, this was like we didn't you understand what 278 00:20:19,759 --> 00:20:23,799 I'm saying. I don't know who did? I did. Those of us 279 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:30,160 at the very beginning who had been in the vaccine knew. But how would 280 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,039 you know? Well, I'll tell you, I haven't been in a lab 281 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:36,599 studying stuff. I mean, I know you're smart, but I'm just saying, 282 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,279 like, ye, I did read the Cares Act, so I did 283 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:41,599 know that there is I read them. I read the bills, and I 284 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,119 read on the emergency orders at the state level and federal levels. So I 285 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,680 knew about the money trail right when it happened, and I reported it. 286 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:52,440 Okay, this is what put me on Well, I would always say in 287 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,240 anything, follow the money right. And we've been talking about Big Farmer for 288 00:20:56,319 --> 00:20:59,240 years, and we've seen things. We also knew about the mr anda vaccines. 289 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:02,920 They had been test seeing m RNA COVID nineteen or not COVID nineteen, 290 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,240 but Corona vaccines for ten years. There were multiple animal studies that I referred 291 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,680 to on my show. This is why I was on the wrong side of 292 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,440 the people who are trying to implement this, because we knew that there were 293 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,599 major problems with m RNA. It's why it was it hadn't been released yet. 294 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,839 All right, let me ask you another question completely away comes you say 295 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,720 I'm on the wrong side. You feel like, do you feel like you're 296 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:32,039 attacked at times? Well, I think I'm uniquely I'm uniquely prepared to do 297 00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:34,519 what I do. Because you feel like you're attacked at times, I do. 298 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:37,519 Do you think that? Do you think part of that is because you're 299 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,480 a woman? And I mean that, and I don't mean that in a 300 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:45,559 in a negative way, but sometimes what will Yeah, Okay, let me 301 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:48,599 tell you how people like this are described. Okay, wow, Yeah, 302 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,480 that's how some women who have strong opinions and big personalities as you gonna say 303 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,359 big mouths. But that sounded mean, and I'm not trying to be mean. 304 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:02,920 I'm just saying like, yeah, right, And because you know what 305 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,599 I'm saying, I don't think it's because I'm a woman. I think, 306 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,799 all right, I'm glad. I'm glad that you feel that way because I 307 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,000 don't know anyone saying the things that I would say. So if you look 308 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,160 at um, doctor Robert Malone, doctor Peter McCullough, j Botacharya, some 309 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,279 of the most brilliant, some of them were up for Nobel Prizes. I 310 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:22,799 mean, these are some of the most brilliant medical scientists, Sasha, A 311 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,839 lot of Pova, who's going to be on my program later next week. 312 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:33,880 These people are are They are I mean respected, established, They completely canceled, 313 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:37,319 I mean, called every name in the book. So it doesn't matter 314 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:41,799 if you're black, white, young, old, um. If you are 315 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,920 going up against this power structure and we're in very dangerous times. It's why 316 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,599 i'm you know, I'm earnest about what I do because I love my kids 317 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:55,279 and I love freedom, and I see I can see what they're doing because 318 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:59,240 I study them and I've I've been studying them for ten years, and so 319 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,759 you know, I in terms of being a woman, I think that in 320 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,839 this business, it's male dominated business. That's what I mean. Political commentary. 321 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,799 But I'm not I am not help. I'll tell you what I've had, 322 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,599 no help. Yeah, that's what I was tell Okay, I've had. 323 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,480 This is what I'm saying, no help. You said to me when 324 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,279 we started, I didn't think you like me, and then I said no, 325 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,240 and you said, well, I'm very polarizing. Okay. So when 326 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,839 you're polarizing and you're a woman, I feel like that's another strike in society, 327 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,720 in the world. And I don't mean that in a mean way, 328 00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:38,599 and I don't mean to sound I'm just looking. I'm observing. I'm observing 329 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,799 your word right in this sense. Okay. I'm big names like we'll say 330 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:47,799 brother Weaves, yeah, okay, um, other big names even on my 331 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,960 radio station, news radio. I'm eleven eighty okay. Um. They're men. 332 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,799 Yeah, they can be controversial, they can be you know, sexist, 333 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,920 they can I mean, they can say anything, can basically do anything 334 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,839 they want, right, and it's all show, it's all you know. 335 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:11,000 They they're allowed because but from for me, um, it's you know you 336 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:15,920 can't get a foothold, it's this industry is interesting to me that you know 337 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,759 I've had to despite Do you think you'd have a stronger foothold if you had 338 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,920 played the game? No, a softer approach. And I don't mean to 339 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,160 mean that you have a harsh approach, but I'm just saying, like I 340 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,839 do think like the way I described as a row and I think that you 341 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:37,200 come baha or or on the other side. If you had more of a 342 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,039 liberal outlook on things, yes, this would be yeah, okay, you 343 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:45,079 are allowed to be woke. I still want to. I still look at 344 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,000 this industry and even in this community, and the women are sidekicks. The 345 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,400 women are that you don't have. You know, my show it's called the 346 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,319 Shannon Joy Show. Yes it's not Bob and Shannon or Bill and Shannon, 347 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,200 or you try to get Bill and Shannon. But just said go fucking self, 348 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,480 and I went on, any fine, this is so much easier than 349 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,400 a one hour monologue though. Let me tell you, I'm sure, yes, 350 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,160 it is a conversations nice. I love talking to people, and I 351 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,480 like you, am very very curious, So I have no problem with you. 352 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,640 I you know, I like learning this about you, and I think 353 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,519 I think people need to see it from where it comes. If your intentions 354 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:30,079 are pure. I want to protect my kids. I like freedom. I'm 355 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,160 not saying that just because I believe that. I believe that that's where you 356 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,039 come from, that's where you live. I think that your style and your 357 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,160 stuff, and I think the way a lot of times it's presented on we'll 358 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,039 call it on your side, which sounds shitty to me, but on that 359 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,200 side it comes almost forceful. But I think that the only reason it is 360 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,640 is because no one's listening, yeah, or in order to get hurt. 361 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,400 I've my biggest problem right now in the world of politics when I look at 362 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,599 things is the fringes are are the loudest right, and so we think that 363 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,279 that's where everything is, whether it's the far left and this the woke movement 364 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:10,359 and whatever, and the far right in this movement and whatever, and I 365 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,960 go, but that's not where most people are. And you can't government except 366 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,799 anywhere but from the middle, and we don't have this stuff, and I 367 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:19,240 don't know what well to your interesting though, to your point, I am 368 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:26,599 in the middle. Yes, I know that, yes, as this is 369 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,000 why I wanted you here. Yeah, I think that, you know, 370 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:36,200 in terms of what we've been taught about politics for the past fifty years, 371 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,240 and it's ingrained in our minds. You are a Democrat or a Republican, 372 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:44,119 You are right, yes, or your lab and right. Each has this 373 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,119 own their own version of what freedom looks like it, but they don't care 374 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,400 about the other thing. Right, Um, civil liberties and civil rights are 375 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,920 very important to the left. Yes, but they will shove needles in your 376 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,400 They as Alan Dershowitz said, they will strap you down and shove a needle 377 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,079 in your arm, okay, and force a medical intervention on you. Now 378 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,680 on the right, yes, you know, they really want you know, 379 00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,160 they're guns and you know all that type of stuff, but they're you know, 380 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,880 very immashed. You're strapping right now. I have a concealed carry pistol. 381 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,880 I'm not going to tell anyone if I'm actually well, you can't say 382 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,640 it. It's concealed. Yeah, yeah, my vanished hulser. That's a 383 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,799 great segue. They're one of my advertise. I saw that I thought i'd 384 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:29,200 help you out a little bit. Vnsh dot com slash Joy there you go, 385 00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:36,440 vanishes under the slinkiest dress you can imagine. They're like one picture a 386 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,799 month is part of the deal. And I think it's I think it's cool. 387 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,279 It's a great company. And okay, um, I see my whole 388 00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:45,240 thing. Would when it comes back to the vaccine, I hear you get 389 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000 and you get very worked up in passion. I'll say this, that's not 390 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,240 fair. I don't like worked up because that sounds mean passionate. Yeah, 391 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:56,039 that's a fair thing to say. You're very passionate about that. And I 392 00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,640 would say that I do believe, at least in the beginning that even though 393 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,160 there was money and stuff, I would still in my head and I know 394 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,720 nothing. I'm just looking at this as a as a human. They were 395 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,240 trying to incentify hospitals to take something that we didn't know was very scary. 396 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,160 Bring these people in, get them out right. We had people dying in 397 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,559 nursing homes. There was a segment of the population that was much more vulnerable 398 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,400 to this and still probably are. And I think that the idea was to 399 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,160 get the vaccine. Now we're starting to see, right, and I think 400 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,759 that people like you have maybe you're being proven like you were onto something. 401 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,519 Yeah, and that, and that's got to feel a little bit better, 402 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:37,079 because I will tell you I can't feel better. It's tragic for me. 403 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:42,000 For me, I can tell you the phone calls, the letters, the 404 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:45,039 interviews, the moments I spent. I spend a lot of time with my 405 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:51,000 listeners. I show up at their protests and their organizations. People who lost 406 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,640 their grandma's and grandpa's in nursing homes in the most evil, indecrepit and horrific 407 00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:02,640 situations, right imagine dying alone, completely isolated. It was such a dark 408 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,240 time, and no one really saw it. That part of twenty twenty was 409 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:11,599 not presented to people on the mainstream news media, and so that penetrates my 410 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,279 heart, and those people I can't ever forget them. I can never forget 411 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:22,440 George Watts, and I agree with you that the middle people to the restaurant 412 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,119 owners who who you know, implemented vaccine mandates, and the nurses and the 413 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,440 doctors, and the most I would say ninety percent of the population that complied 414 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,440 with all of this did not realize what they were complying with. They wanted 415 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,279 to do the right thing, and the people for the people who did this 416 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,839 to us though. They prayed on our good nature and our good will, 417 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,920 and that's so disgusting to me. Like it's like the people there, there 418 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,799 were people, and you know that's where we're right now. We're trying to 419 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,359 sift through all this. I love Bobby Kennedy Jr. He's really helping. 420 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,000 And you know, especially in terms of you saying like the like what is 421 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:06,279 the middle? Where is the middle? The middle is the most um most 422 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,720 dangerous place to be because that's a place where you just really believe in freedom. 423 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,079 Yeah, and it's not used for a political agenda or progress or corporate 424 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:17,759 agenda or governmental agenda. They hate that. That's what they're they're trying to 425 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,680 pull us apart, and they succeeded with COVID. I would say, you 426 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,319 can even you know when when you take it to the money, take it 427 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,480 away from the vaccine for a second, and we can win our two. 428 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,599 Yeah, but we can. And again, I it does make us sound 429 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,279 like we're sheep right the people that did it in a way, I mean 430 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:36,799 it does if we were gonna, if we're gonna put it, you know, 431 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,039 you preyed on people's good natures. I would have Benna sheep ten years 432 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,880 ago. So my eyes were opened when my kids were vaccine injured. That's 433 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,079 when my eyes were ye. Right. So I don't want to come here 434 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,920 and say, oh, I knew everything and you guys didn't. I didn't 435 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,440 know. I was in my category as right wing a Republican. I was 436 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:59,400 in the matrix, so to speak. And then an event happened that that 437 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,920 may me see things in a different way, and that had to do with 438 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,559 the vaccine. So then I went down. You go down the rabbit hole, 439 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:11,680 and it's terrible. Vaccine injured. Like I do think that there are 440 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,039 vaccines we need. Why we don't want certain things coming back, and if 441 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,480 we can avoid polio, and it does pop here about polio. I'm gonna 442 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,680 deep dive in polio right now. Yeah, I won't go into it. 443 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:25,920 I'll scare you, but do you understand Like but again, like again, 444 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,599 we've seen less of it. We seem to have eradicated that from society. 445 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,240 You don't see many people who have who had polio. I had a teacher 446 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,079 who had polio and he had a very hard time moving and he was my 447 00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,440 track coach and he was the best track coach I've ever had. Because he 448 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,000 just focused. He couldn't do what you could do, but he could tell 449 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,119 you how to do it, you know. And uh, but we've seemed 450 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,160 to eradicate, so I think in some ways. But I believe me. 451 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,680 I'm aware of some of the vaccine injuries and the concerns, and I have 452 00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:59,279 been hearing things of people with the COVID vaccine of injuries and things. There's 453 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,839 some very very strange things and people I know personally that are going through some 454 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,799 stuff. Yeah, so that aside. But take it to climate change. 455 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,680 Now, there's a weather guy that, uh, people have gone kind of 456 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,119 hard at. He's a he's a climate denier. And he's not saying I'm 457 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:20,000 a climate denier. He's saying, you know, when we put out things 458 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:24,799 or what does a climate denier, Well, you deny climate happens like name 459 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,920 people like that. That's part of the dehumanization process. Anti vaxxer's unvaccinated climate 460 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,839 denier. It's an ad hominem to just take a person out. We aren't 461 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,440 there ad hominems that come from the other side as well. I don't. 462 00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:42,599 I don't use ad hominem. I do assholes. No, I'm kidding, 463 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,279 right, I'm very disciplined with myself to not use that ad hominem. Okay, 464 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:50,160 I'd be surprised if anyone could find anything in past ten years where I 465 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,200 call someone a name, like a person individual. I will say those like 466 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,720 those those rat bastards, you know, But it's usually in general like the 467 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,759 you know the people are doing. This. Guy's thing is like, you 468 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,880 know, we're supposed to have maybe we could have more ninety degree days than 469 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,319 we've ever had. And he said, go back and look. We had 470 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,480 in our city more ninety degree days in the forties and fifties than we've had 471 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400 in the past twenty five years. But no one wants to look at the 472 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,200 data. And he said, I'm not saying that, yes, urban areas 473 00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:23,039 where we have more cars, are we warming up properly. Yeah, But 474 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,759 at the same time, we need to look at all the data and we 475 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:30,480 need to be good stewards of the planet, right, we need to be 476 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,799 good stewards of the planet. So if that means you want to have an 477 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,720 electric car, and here's where I go on electric cars. I love cars, 478 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,720 love driving fast. I've driven a bunch of electric cars. I'm just 479 00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:44,880 not convinced those batteries are great, right, And the batteries have metals in 480 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,119 them. That's why we have life Cycle, which is a company here that 481 00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:52,200 that recycles the batteries because you need the metals and we can't get the metals, 482 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,839 the precious metals out of the earth and all this stuff. So you 483 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,960 know, I don't I don't know where the right thing is. But if 484 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,599 you have an electric car, good for you that. Yeah, thanks. 485 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,319 I think there have been studies done on electric cars too, and electric car 486 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,759 was first, by the way, and most people don't know this well. 487 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,840 And I think it takes up just as much energy, or you use as 488 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,840 much energy as a as as you know, maybe I just think the pollution 489 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,440 is less, right, So we're just saying, yeah, you know, 490 00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:24,280 they don't Your first clue when when someone is not an honest broker, Yeah, 491 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,199 the first clue is when they launch an ad hominum. So if they 492 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,599 call him anti climate or climate denier, that means they don't want to look 493 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,480 at his data. And the reason they don't want to look at his data 494 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:42,719 is because his data will completely obliterate what there because remember everything is about it's 495 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,000 money and power. Yes, this is what I was trying to get to 496 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,039 is that if you look at certain funding is where's it coming from? And 497 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,039 when I talk to this guy, it was yeah, because some people will 498 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,920 say, we're not going to fund that unless you kind of skew it to 499 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,239 look this way or come with these results, and I think that's not right. 500 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,280 We need to look at things. Listen, you know you have to 501 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,239 be I've always thought like critical thinking is probably something that needs to be taught 502 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,960 more and I don't even know that you can teach it. But looking at 503 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,679 all things, this is where you know, I've always been a big believer. 504 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,199 We see the cost of education is astronomical, right, but oh that's 505 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:29,199 big money. That's a multi billion dollar industry education. You know, they 506 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,519 got rid of the factories. They took the kids out of the factories. 507 00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:36,440 You remember their little fingers and they could you know, and made that illegal 508 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,239 and then shove them all into the big boxes in the industrial school system. 509 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:45,880 Right. Wow. So like you, it's it's education as it exists today, 510 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,119 in my opinion, is about making adults money. Yeah. Yeah, 511 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,480 I'm thinking of college. And when I was where, I was talking college 512 00:35:54,599 --> 00:36:00,000 this but you're right. My point with college was that that's gotten astronomical. 513 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,360 Yeah, And I feel bad because we're using people are using it more as 514 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,679 a training school or a trade school. And I think that you need to 515 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,960 go for knowledge for the sake of knowledge, so you can be a critical 516 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,039 thinker, right, so that you can look at all sides and go out 517 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,280 in the world. And I think that's something. But that's a luxury. 518 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,960 That's a luxury these days that many people do not have anymore. And I 519 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,639 you know, with my sons and stuff, I've tried to I mean we 520 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,320 do private schools and all kinds of things because I love That's a big deal 521 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,559 to me. Learning to write, being able to look at all sides is 522 00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,599 very important. That's a skill you need to have. Well, absolutely, 523 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,760 you need to. You need to know history. You need to understand history 524 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,840 because when you do, if you look at at history in a chronological way, 525 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,400 right, we don't do that. Notice how they chop everything up for 526 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,480 kids and they make it very confusing, right. Um. The classical education 527 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,480 model, which we abandoned one hundred years ago in the country, taught a 528 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:58,079 linear They taught, you know, a chronological history of the world starting with 529 00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,119 the Bible. They did a biblical history as well. And you know, 530 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,719 the Bible is one of the oldest source documents. I mean, it should 531 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,920 be studied by every kid. I mean, regardless of what your your religious 532 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:12,559 beliefs are, because of that rich history. But when you look at chronological 533 00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,320 history, you will see cycle after cycle after cycle. This is how people 534 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,000 can predict things. This is how people people who know that in You're like, 535 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,480 how did you know that? It's usually people who study history because the 536 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:27,920 nature of human beings does not change, and it hasn't since biblical times, 537 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:32,159 hasn't since you know, when Jesus walk the earth. It is always the 538 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:39,519 story is always money and power, and people will do horrible things to accumulate 539 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,840 money and power. And when you have a population of people who become sheep, 540 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,519 who go to sleep and don't remember liberty, they don't remember our founding 541 00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:52,840 of the country or the declaration of independence, they will be lured into these 542 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:59,400 situations where the money and power becomes so accumulated and so vast that these people 543 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,079 will do horrible, horrible things to human populations. And that's where we're always 544 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,719 fighting against. You know, no, I know, but I'm thinking as 545 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,599 you're saying this, they go, sure, but as somebody's running around because 546 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,800 they have a job and they got to get to work, and they and 547 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440 they don't want to And that's how we sort of, I guess becomes as 548 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,280 we say, sheep, but you've got stuff you got to do, and 549 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920 you're free to go around doing it, and you have a nice life, 550 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,559 and you had a house and you've got things and you and you can live. 551 00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,639 And they don't want to get caught up in the in the in the 552 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:30,519 bullshit or the fight. And I think that that's where people go. I 553 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:35,039 really do I know. But you know, all you need is a you 554 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,360 need a remnant. You need a minority of people talk about things we're talking 555 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,639 about today and help people remember those things. And then every everyone in their 556 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,639 own you know, people tune this stuff out because they think, but what 557 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,440 am I going to do? What can what can I possibly do? I 558 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,920 don't matter, you know. It is a it's an apathy that is not 559 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,320 because people are jerks. It's because they've been convinced by the powers that be. 560 00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,880 I mean, look at we go from Republican Democrat president back and forth 561 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,280 and back and forth, and they lie to us, they cheat, They 562 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,360 are the worst of the worst of the worst, and they abuse this population 563 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,239 of people, and they convince us that we're not Oh, that's just how 564 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,360 the sausage is made. That's the most disgusting thing to say, how the 565 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,440 fudge is passed. Yeah, that's just how the sausages made. They're basically 566 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,559 saying to us, though you don't deserve to have good government, we don't 567 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:28,239 deserve to be told the truth. Yeah, and so we've lost that. 568 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,199 We can regain that as a citizen tree. But it just takes enough people 569 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,440 waking up in these conversations and then in your own corner of the world, 570 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,320 do your own little one thing, whether it's you know, sending your kid 571 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719 to private school, homeschooling your kid, do you send your kids to public 572 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,920 school? They aren't in public school? Are three are going to be in 573 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,599 Fairport? Okay? Yeah? So Fairport just had something where they people were 574 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,280 very upset. Yeah, because I think they were gonna refer to everybody as 575 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,760 parents or guardians. They didn't want to talk about mom or dad. And 576 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,079 I'm getting all this stuff where I'm like, I'm a dad, and here's 577 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,320 my thinking on that. I don't care. Well, because you don't you 578 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,920 don't want to look at what the larger Well, no, but but here's 579 00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:12,800 here's my thing. I I will say, I feel like when they do 580 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,800 that, you're saying we're trying. They're trying, at least one a very 581 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,320 simplistically to be inclusive. But I think by saying that, you're almost taking 582 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,440 those people who fit that have two dads, have two moms, have or 583 00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:30,800 do whatever, right, that live with grandma. You're already marginalizing them just 584 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,480 by saying it. Right, But I go, why do we get so 585 00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:37,079 caught up in that when the whole purpose should be to build the kid? 586 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:39,960 I don't give a shit what you want to be talking about. How what 587 00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,960 pronoun you want to Who cares? Fine, I'll call you him they she 588 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,920 we. I don't care. But let's get to how do I reach your 589 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,760 child and make you feel like you can? Right? That's the job? 590 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:57,599 How do I get how do I help every kid feel like they win? 591 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,639 You're coming to this from a common sense in rational positions. But but but 592 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,840 my point is, like all that other shit, it seems like we get 593 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,920 bogged down. Who cares fine? Calling parents guardians? I don't care. 594 00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:10,360 But then somebody's going, well, I'm a dad. Yeah, But You're 595 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,000 not on the dad of every kid there, so why do you care? 596 00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:19,719 But what you're falling into again is why you have to people who are like 597 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,159 I don't care. Why on earth with these morons? Okay, well, 598 00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:28,360 I think to try to be inclusive because we're trying to include comend it. 599 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,599 But but okay, but remember we talked about the physicians and the doctors and 600 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,679 the people who shut down and take me down this tree. Because I want 601 00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,920 to hear this sounds conspiracy to me, Shannon, I'm just telling you, 602 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,800 I'm not listen. I've stopped trying to figure out why people do things. 603 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,880 I just identify dumb ass things. Okay. Okay. It is a dumb 604 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,199 ass thing to shove a substance into your body that has not been tested or 605 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,760 studied. Okay. And it's also a dumb ass thing to force other people 606 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,239 to do it, okay, or take away their job. Okay. It's 607 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:06,840 dumb to create seventy seven pronouns or adverbs and change the entire English language and 608 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,880 confuse these little children and tell them that they can be a boy or a 609 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,920 girl and all of these crazy they tell you. See, I don't have 610 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,800 kids that age, so are they telling them in school. This this is 611 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,000 where I go. Come on, man, yes, Bill, what I'm 612 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:29,360 listening. I'm here. There is graphic triple X rated child pornography in nearly 613 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,719 every library of every Fairport school, including the elementary schools. Okay, but 614 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,400 these would fit the definition federal statues of child porn You tell me on what 615 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:50,480 universe where we have identified probably three dozen and we add to the list every 616 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:54,760 day. Okay. These are books that would meet the federal and state statutes 617 00:42:55,159 --> 00:43:00,639 of child pornography. They are depicting children under age having sex with each other, 618 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:07,159 engaging in oral sex um. They have pictures images of men and boys, 619 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,400 adult men and a young boy engaging in a sexual act. They have 620 00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:19,920 the most graphic depictions of of it's called ancient grease. Well, right, 621 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,480 but if you have that on your computer, Bill, if you have that 622 00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:25,280 on your computer and you disseminate it, you're going to get yanked for child 623 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,079 cards. These why wait, wait, wait wait wait, why are they 624 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,519 fighting so hard we have Well, look, I don't want books banned, 625 00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,719 but I don't know that. I don't know, I don't know. I'm 626 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,840 not in the school, so I can't say. But how do we what 627 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,000 are the titles these books? What are are these books? Okay? So 628 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,360 I mean this book is gay. Yeah, and this book is gay among 629 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,159 other things. There is a section that teaches kids how to use sex apps. 630 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,960 So it's number one, download the sex app, and they have product 631 00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:59,800 codes QR codes where people can go in their graphic triple X born. Okay, 632 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,559 number one, download the sex app. Number two, take a pick 633 00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:08,280 of yourself and upload it. Number three, turn on your location device so 634 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,159 that you can be near the nearest homosexual. Number four you can meet up. 635 00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,239 All right, I am this verbe no, okay, okay, that 636 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:22,800 is here's where that that's putting kids they can be. That's dangerous. And 637 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440 that book is in the middle school. You're talking to somebody that was molested 638 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,440 as a child. So that's okay. So I'm just saying no, no, 639 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,679 no, no, I'm sorry, hang on, hang on, stop 640 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,559 for a second. I that's no no problem. I agree with you. 641 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:37,719 A book like that is you're putting kids. We wouldn't want that. Nobody 642 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,960 would nobody would want that. On the other side of this, though, 643 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,280 many years ago on the radio, we did what we thought was funny. 644 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,280 Uh we found out that men who are on the down low. Married men 645 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,960 would would back their car into area parks around here, and if somebody else 646 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,320 backed in, they would hook up and they would have their game owner and 647 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,199 then they would go back to their life. So we thought, on our 648 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,360 show, let's find out who's the most attractive person on the show, so 649 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,639 we would back our cars in. I left with a completely different and very 650 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:20,440 sad view of the world because an older guy, just a happy looking grandpa, 651 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:24,360 pulls in and pulls up next to somebody and they said, I'm waiting 652 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,280 for my wife. The guy goes, hey, what's going on. He 653 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480 goes, hey, what are you doing. I'm just here to I'm waiting 654 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,199 for my wife, he says. The guy goes, I'm married, okay, 655 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,400 and the old man goes me too, and he holds up his ring 656 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,280 and he goes, oh, well, I'm waiting for my wife. And 657 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:46,079 all I could think was how sad, because, as we say, we've 658 00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:51,840 marginalized people, and you couldn't be who you are if you're and I believe 659 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,079 when you're gay, I don't think that's something that you can be taught you 660 00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:59,440 either, are you aren't? I think that just as wrapped up that you 661 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:05,400 know, feeling compassion for a marginalized group or wanting people to is so different 662 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,199 than should we place child pornography and children? Now we shouldn't, and so 663 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,079 we should see how they rich You see how they call me a book burner. 664 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,280 Now, here's the thing about a school library. Do you know, 665 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000 they're like a gazillion books out there. Like a school library doesn't have to 666 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,400 house every single book on the face of the planet. They have a process 667 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,880 where they go through and they look for books that are appropriate for kids, 668 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,880 that are appropriate for they have educational value. Okay, so this idea that 669 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,920 we want to burn books is insane, That's it. But they do it 670 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,880 again. And this goes back to the theme of everything we talked about today. 671 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,280 They call those of us who are trying to protect children. They do 672 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,519 not want to discuss the merit. They don't want to look at the book, 673 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,599 they don't want to be shown. We have binders. This thick with 674 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,800 documentation. It's been submitted. If there are investigations at the Monroe County level, 675 00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:00,039 the state level, the FBI, and there are now federal investigations in 676 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,000 to what this is the dissemination of child porn art. This is a big 677 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:07,800 deal, yea, what they're doing. And but but they don't they don't 678 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,000 want to discuss that. Now. I can't, for the life of me 679 00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,760 figure out why. If it's that they just want to hold onto this this 680 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,480 power that they have at schools and they just don't want parents. But this 681 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:20,000 goes back to what you're saying about, you know, you know parents and 682 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,239 you know, refusing to call them mom or dad or you know, like, 683 00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:27,000 well you're calling your parents or gardens. And they did that in my 684 00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:31,119 school again. But I think that when you talk about freedom and liberty, 685 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,280 you're not going to hear me out about that. Stupid I think it's not. 686 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,800 I hear you, but um to me, it's like it's a waste 687 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,239 of time. I'm not gonna I'm not going to burn calories on something I 688 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,800 don't need to do. Well, if I get upset about that, understand 689 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,719 that larger picture. The larger picture is to is to marginalize and minimize the 690 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:53,159 family and a natural structure family because government institutions, when they can, you 691 00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:59,280 know, part of the dehumanization processes, they move people to slaver You laugh 692 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:06,400 about slave century, Hang on a second, I'm not the rule of history. 693 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:07,960 I got you like, that is the rule, not the exception. 694 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,880 Class is the exception. My point is when we say things like dehumanization, 695 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,239 I just can't see things going that far. So I laugh at it going. 696 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,039 I think we would stand up at some point and go, we can't 697 00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:29,079 the family structure of mom, dad, children, it's changed because people aren't 698 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,920 all the same. Not everybody's going to be attracted to a woman, right, 699 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,519 and not everybody's going to be attracted to a man if they're a woman, 700 00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:37,280 right. So we've got that right. And the other thing is I 701 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,639 had. There was a gay gentleman in here yesterday who said, growing up 702 00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:45,679 it was hard because I've always been I've had I would gesticulate and I had 703 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,000 a higher voice, and I got picked on in the locker room. And 704 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,760 I will tell you man, I grew up in the eighties, Shannon. 705 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,280 I played a lot of sports. I was in the locker room all the 706 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,039 time. The worst thing you could have been was gay. We all showered 707 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:04,079 in one room with showerheads. Okay, I feel terrible. You know what. 708 00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:06,920 I was a Christian and a virgin. Imagine that. Imagine being a 709 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,679 born again Christian as a girl and what you get exposed to. I mean, 710 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,599 so people have hard times, very point accommodations for Christians. No one 711 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:20,880 cares that I that. Well, let's talk about that. Well, if 712 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,960 we're going to sit here and talk about how you know, there are all 713 00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:27,840 of these I'm you know, victim groups. I could sit here and say 714 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,760 as a woman, I'm a victim. I can sit here and say as 715 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,480 a Christian, I'm a victim. But have I told you I'm a victim? 716 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,559 No? And I'm not saying that because that's not because that doesn't do 717 00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,000 me any good and it doesn't do kids any good. No. But what 718 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,320 we're saying, you're coddled and being you're taking this the wrong way. What 719 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,960 I'm what I'm trying to say is I think like for that guy, the 720 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,000 world today is a little more accepting if you're different, we're a little more 721 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,599 accepting. Do we need to shut people like me? Well, this is 722 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:58,440 because you're a big mouth and you come charging it people and you go back 723 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,639 to see all the pride of flags everywhere les yes, everyone has a big 724 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,599 match like there's yes, there's but see they say it as acceptance and this 725 00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:12,920 seems like people like me, Well, who's not accepting you? Who I 726 00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,800 mean, I was not accepting you. I don't even know. You can't 727 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:22,000 see, that's what. And nobody's against Christians. Christians. Look, I 728 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,679 always thought I'm not a very religious person. Um. I do think that 729 00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,679 I have more of a of a spiritual person. And I do think that, 730 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,239 uh, there are lessons in the Bible. I think they've been widely 731 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,079 misinterpreted. And I think there's all kinds of things. And I think when 732 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,199 you talk about you know, power and stuff. Yeah, Jesus got really 733 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,679 pissed off and he went into the temple and he kicked over tables and he 734 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,960 screamed to people, this is the house of my father and you're selling money 735 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,079 and doing things. And they and they basically that was when they decided to 736 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,039 kill him. And you know, he believed he you know when when he 737 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,079 did this, he killed a fig tree and on the way and he was 738 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,159 so pissed off because he could it wasn't bearing fruit. He was hungry. 739 00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,719 He was angry, right, he was hangry, and he killed Wonder about 740 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,239 that scripture that was the one that always confused I'm like, why would you 741 00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:09,199 you know with this? Because he was so mad and Peter said to him, 742 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,039 Jesus he had the balls to go, Why did you kill this tree? 743 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,800 And he said, if you believe, fully believe, you can move 744 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,480 them outain. Yeah, mustard seed, but you can. And I think 745 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,679 that that's where we lose it. Our minds are so powerful, but sometimes 746 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,039 we get caught up in this resistance and fighting and resistance and fighting that we 747 00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:31,159 just don't go anywhere, and we get all this drama and we play it 748 00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:37,639 out. We become Shakespeare. Life is play by your By that example, 749 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:42,000 there would never be a Sam Adams, there would never be George Washington, 750 00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:45,400 there would never have been a revolutionary war, never like you need people. 751 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:49,239 I know that it's uncomfortable for it. And you know what, I'm not 752 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,679 calling for everyone to stand no, no, I hear. I feel you 753 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,760 know in terms of my faith, you know you cannot separate what I do 754 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,239 every day from my faith. I am a Bible believing Christian, nondenominational. 755 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:05,960 So I've read my Bible, you know, Old Testament to the Book of 756 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,719 Revelations multiple times. I started with a children's Bible, by the way, 757 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,239 because it was easier. It's lovely. I recommend it to anyone if they 758 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,360 ever want to do that. The understanding that you get just even if you're 759 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:21,639 not a Christian. M So my faith drives everything that I do everything, 760 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:30,000 And so the idea of of standing up and fighting is something that I feel 761 00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:36,760 like I just have to do and I have to do it because I know 762 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,639 that other people won't and they're afraid to and I want to do it for 763 00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:45,519 them. I want to do it for my kids because because something inside me 764 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,800 was built in a way that I can be. I can have people not 765 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,280 like me or not like the show, or say mean things to me or 766 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,360 mean things about me, and I can lose friends. And while I don't 767 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:00,000 like that, it doesn't I don't. I don't care that much. I 768 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,960 don't like it, but I okay, I think I think he kind of. 769 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,760 I think it bothers you. When I think it's I think it put 770 00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:08,840 farmer on you. It's not. And that's where I feel like, you 771 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,760 feel like now I've got to fight against because nobody likes me. Nobody likes 772 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,719 Everybody loved me before I started my radio show, like I Yes, I 773 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,760 like we didn't you do? Like beauty tips or something on Warm Yeah, 774 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,519 soft rock station deals with Shannon. Yeah, it was my because when I 775 00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,800 got into this, I wanted I wanted to do exactly what you were talking 776 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,840 about. Um, I am not, by my nature a an aggressive person 777 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,159 or a mean person. That's not my nature at all. Okay, I'm 778 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:43,079 nature. Well, I'm I don't think I think people think. I think 779 00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:46,000 people think I'm different. They hear about my show, and they hear about 780 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,639 who people say that I am. Yes, but I don't think a lot 781 00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:52,079 of people. Actually, That's why I asked you, how would you describe 782 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:53,880 yourself when we started. That's why I said, well, I'll tell you 783 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,519 I love Jesus, yes, and um, every day what I try to 784 00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:04,400 do you cannot because I'm a sinner and I make a million mistakes. But 785 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,559 I try to be as much like him as I can. That's really who 786 00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:12,559 I try to be. And I make, like I said it, make 787 00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,800 a lot of mistakes, and I don't do things. You know, Well, 788 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,519 Jesus to me was pure positive light. But he did carry a sword. 789 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,960 No, no I'm not. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying 790 00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:27,199 he was pure positive light. And I always think of things like if anything 791 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,400 you want to do anything in life, I always think back to when he 792 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,159 would cure people, right, and he would say, go forth and tell 793 00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:39,519 no one, because everybody's going to come at you with what I would say 794 00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:44,199 is a pure intention. I would even say the people who got back to 795 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,840 it was with a pure intention. And I think that they're going to tell 796 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,840 you, well, you know, he cured you, but it could come 797 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,440 back, and then you start to put doubt in your mind. And that's 798 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,800 why he says, don't And that's why anything I'm gonna do, I usually 799 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,480 if it's a big idea, I don't say anything and tell him down the 800 00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:01,480 road a little bit, because people will talk you out of stuff. And 801 00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:06,599 I think that sometimes. You know, the other thing that Jesus was like 802 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,079 some people think he was the ultimate hippie in terms of loving and accepting. 803 00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:15,199 Well, he came to fulfill the law, abolish the law. So he 804 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,320 upheld the Old Testament law. And he was very clear about sin. He 805 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,239 was very clear, and he you know, he did not say that we 806 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,639 come to everything from good intentions. He said we are sinners by nature. 807 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,239 Um, there's bad in us, but through him, Yeah, he's you 808 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,559 know, that was very clear. That's I mean, that's biblical. Now 809 00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:37,920 listen, Yes, that's why you read it. Well. I read it 810 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,840 to see kind of where do I believe this? And I went through that 811 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,800 whole process of trying to figure out if I believed I was raised a Christian. 812 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,320 And then I was like, I wors to believe that I was too, 813 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,559 And so I looked at all the other religions and I, you know, 814 00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,079 and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go straight to the 815 00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:52,079 source and see if I believe this. And you know, I know you've 816 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,760 got a kind of a heart out here. Let me let me just say 817 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,280 this in terms of you know, the Jesus stuff. I think there are 818 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,360 many teachers. I think Jesus is a wonderful was a wonderful teacher. I 819 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:07,039 think the message comes from different people in different ways. It's usually kind of 820 00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:12,559 the same thing. I think we our life has lived in our mind. 821 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,679 I think we can get caught up in a lot of things. You and 822 00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:15,960 I could go to the same party. I could leave there thinking I had 823 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,039 a great time, and you could leave their going conversations are good because I 824 00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,840 get you out of you. No, I agree, But so when I 825 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,679 when I look at all this stuff, like with Jesus and things. I 826 00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:31,320 always think you are more energy than you are physical being, and you got 827 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,559 to kind of tap into that. And I feel like there's so many messages 828 00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,480 in the Bible and things that that we miss on that I think there are 829 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,199 things that were said by Him and by others that kind of go, hey, 830 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,079 there's you know, there's nothing really going on here. We're making a 831 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,840 much in the spirit. This is something I've learned over the past three years 832 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,440 really, But you know, here's the liberty message though. On all of 833 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,920 that. Um, I have my belief system as a Christian, and I 834 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,599 believe certain things that might be offense of to other people, and other people 835 00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:05,280 believe things that might be offensive to me. The Bible, you know, 836 00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:08,519 in the creation, we were created in the image of God and we had 837 00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:13,840 a touch of the divine, which is free will, the ability to choose 838 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,800 him or to reject him. So there is a liberty message. This is 839 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,440 why I would never say we should ban you know, homosexuals or banyan. 840 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,880 And you know, unless it's dealing with children, you mess with children and 841 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,519 I'm gonna come at you. But in terms of adults living their lives, 842 00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,800 you'll never hear me making determinations about that. I do believe because I believe 843 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,119 God told us that he gave us the choice right. That's part of my 844 00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:38,599 belief system. So that's how you can rap. That's how you can be 845 00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:45,480 a Christian. But in also engage, embrace liberty, and maybe not a 846 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,320 a proove of certain lifestyles or decision making or the way, or not even 847 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,360 ap prove of it. Maybe maybe not believe that that is godly, I 848 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,360 guess, but you can still sit with a person respect their humanity. I 849 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,480 agree with that, and I but I also think that too. I think 850 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,719 that a very simple philosophical idea, and it was many many philosophers had that 851 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,880 early on, but it's a very simple one. Is that there is no 852 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,800 evil if everything comes from source, which is God, and it's pure positive 853 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,159 light. There's a privation of good, that in everything there is good, 854 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,280 even in the bed, even in the evil doers, there is some good. 855 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:28,079 We just have allowed things to go the other way. And I'm not 856 00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:32,000 saying that there isn't any danger. I think danger because the evil doers will, 857 00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:36,559 they'll manipulate, use that right, they'll use that to get a foothold. 858 00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:39,320 I'm telling you. I'm telling you all right, well I can't. 859 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,400 I mean, people are gonna hear me say that and go, well, 860 00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:45,840 well, how do we talk about in the inner cities where people are killing 861 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,719 each other like crazy, and we got you know, people sealing cars. 862 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,320 That's evil, right, Well, we have laws. We have laws that 863 00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:55,039 need to be worked on, clearly, but we have laws. I just 864 00:58:55,079 --> 00:59:00,320 think that most people it's that. And I think that sometimes when we makes 865 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:06,079 American sitting ducks though, because because we don't believe. See I get this 866 00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:09,039 all the time. No one can believe that there are people that evil the 867 00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,920 people some of the people who do these things, no one, you can't 868 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,360 conceive of it, because no, you would never do it. I understand 869 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,800 that. But I also but let me go to the other side. I 870 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,039 think that when we always live in fear of this shit, we can't truly 871 00:59:24,119 --> 00:59:27,800 live can never live in fear. Do I look like I live in fear? 872 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,280 Well, you talked about a whole bunch of scary shit. It's scary, 873 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,639 but I'm not afraid of it. All right, that's it. But 874 00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:36,400 I think but when but you don't know how somebody's hearing that. I know, 875 00:59:36,639 --> 00:59:38,760 so you need to make that part of your message. I'm not trying 876 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,880 to scare you. I'm trying to open your eyes. You're aware that would 877 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,840 be my thing. That's another like Commandment three hundred and sixty. Sometimes in 878 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,480 the Bible we're commanded to not fear. Yeah, so I do you know 879 00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:54,280 some of the stuff, the nature of the work that I do is scary, 880 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,639 fear base right, Well, no, it's not fear based. Oh 881 00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:00,000 bullshit. Most of the stuff is people are scary of anything. I'm scared 882 01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:02,639 of the vaccine. I'm scared of this. They're coming after me, They're 883 01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:07,800 coming to get me, They're taking away everything. Don't listen to my show. 884 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,679 No I know, I don't, but I'm saying to you, but 885 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,000 that's how people interpret it. I know. And that's not fair either, 886 01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:15,519 because that's a judgment without your As you just said, I haven't listened to 887 01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:19,480 your show. You're one hundred percent right, But I think that that's how 888 01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:24,000 people see it. Yeah, there's a healthy amount. I wouldn't even call 889 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:29,360 it fear. I would just call it knowledge, knowledge of evil. Yes, 890 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,679 and you've you have to do business with that because if you don't, 891 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,480 it's going to grow and fester. And grow and fester, and then then 892 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:42,039 you can't stop it, and so we got to address it. You have 893 01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,039 to face it. And that's that's really I mean, I'm not fearful. 894 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:46,639 I'm saying, let's face this. This is a big scary thing. There 895 01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:53,280 are bad people, yes, corporate governmental institutions within our military, and they 896 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,159 do bad things. I don't think they started out that way, but I 897 01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:59,559 think they're trying to hold onto paths. I think you're right, and so 898 01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:04,039 that was that's my point of the constitution. That's my privation of good right, 899 01:01:04,119 --> 01:01:06,599 that would be the pripe. We started with pure intentions, but now 900 01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:08,280 we've gotten here and we need to protect it, and so we do these 901 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,320 things and that's where and you're right agree. I think we agree. We 902 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,599 agree on a lot of stuff. Yes, this is really well. Listen. 903 01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:17,400 I'd love to have you back because I'd love to talk about the documentary. 904 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,280 Yeah you've been working on You're just down in New Orleans and uh projects. 905 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,079 Yeah, I know you've been doing a lot of stuff and I really 906 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,559 appreciate it. The show, Shannon Enjoy Show. Where do I go? 907 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,239 Follow me on Twitter at Shannon Enjoy Radio, Go to Rumbull follow the Rumbull 908 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,599 Show, give us the thoughts up and the Shannon Enjoy. The shan Enjoy 909 01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:37,639 dot com is my website. All right, Happy fourth of July and I'll 910 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:45,920 see tomorrow Husband Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Route ninety six in Victor, Land 911 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,159 of Legends Raceway and Cannondegua. 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