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ship. Boy Today, fourth of July, I got a freedom fighter in
here, somebody I've cross passed with a few times. And then I ran
into somewhere and said to me, I didn't think you liked man. I
didn't think you liked man. Why? Well, because I tend to be
quite polarizing in this community. You are, But I mean that doesn't mean
anything. People's you have to remember like an opinion in my world, right
you get people a yeah, right, Oh, it's halfway between fact and
fiction, is by definition? Right, And just because we don't maybe see
things the same way, is it? I that's the problem. Listen,
Jennon, that's the problem. Listen when I got I don't think that's properly.
I sh Enjoy film Maria Well. Shann Enjoys the executive producer and host
of The Shannon Enjoy Show, which is weekdays nine till ten on WAM eleven
eighty on News Radio AM eleven eighty, UM five pm. We do a
live event on rumbull and Twitter. So it is video. Rumble is like
a YouTube. It's a it's a freedom fighting YouTube. Everyone who gets kicked
off of YouTube for their contrarian views moves over to Rumball. Okay, So
Russell Brand is over at Rumball. Okay, Joe Rogan is No, he's
at Spotify. Um, who do we have over there? I mean a
lot of Viva Fray. You probably don't know who he is, but it's
it's essentially yes, I don't really yeah, I don't know. So we
do a live We run the show live on Twitter, live on Rumball.
Then we are doing on Twitter. Twitter used to have periscope. My producers
are wizards. Okay, they're wizards. I don't know how they do this,
yeah, but they're able to do it. We're one of the very
first full feature, full length shows on Twitter. And it's exciting because now
we have Tucker Carlson who is platforming his show exclusively on Twitter, and so
they're trying to move that platform into the space into a rumble YouTube type of
space, which I think they can probably do, so that's pretty exciting.
Then at six pm, we upload everything to every conceivable podcast platform can imagine,
like you're doing Spotify, Stitcher, Tandora, iTunes. And then at
nine pm we take the best of that show and we air it on who
Does. Because you're and I say that and it sounds almost condescending, and
we've left my mouth and I don't mean, I don't mean it like that.
That's okay, But I know you're a mom and you're very active with
your kids, and you're married, and you and your husband do a lot
of things together, and a marriage, any relationship, you have to tend
to it. Oh sure, right, so and nine it's a time when
it's kind of family time, right, you're putting the kids to bed,
You're doing this sort of thing. And I don't know how old your kids
are now, but right right, So do you have people that are able
to do that for you? Yes, okay, I contract. People don't
realize this, but I do contract with news radio. I'm eleven eighty.
I'm not an employee of iHeart or the station. So I purchase my airtime
from them, and then I retain commercial inventory and I resell my inventory in
the show and on the station. So that's an arrangement we've had for five
years, and they're wonderful and so they give me a little bit of production
help with that. So there are people that help me as part of my
contracts. Oh how nice? Okay. And then I also the video portion
of my show. I work with on a fifty fifty profit share with a
fantastic production team down in Florida. So I send them my interviews, my
segments. They package it up, they make it look beautiful, they put
the uppers in the lowers, and also help me secure my national advertisers,
which we are now starting to get because of the video portion. So I
have my I have a foot in Rochester, New York that is very localized
with local sponsors, and then I have a national footprint as well as we're
building national sponsors. So it's to talk to you. Oh absolutely, listen.
I do it the hard way. This is not no no, I
mean it looks it's the hard I'll say this. The independent lane is great,
right, it's fantastic. I mean I have the space that you came
in and you have your stuff going on, and uh there's nobody there to
get in your way. But there's nobody there to get in your way or
help you right right right, So that's where you know you're doing it.
And I I was, I don't think you know exactly what you're getting into
until you're in it, and then it's like shit, it's too late now,
you know what I mean? So that that's the that's the stuff.
How would you describe yourself? How would you describe Shannon Joy? If someone
said, you know, what's the elevator pitch on you? Well, what
would I call? How would I describe myself? I would say, I
mean, I know it's cliche. And you mentioned being a freedom fighter,
But I would say I've always just been very independent and I love freedom.
Like the scariest thing to me is a cage in any sense of the word,
right, physically, psychologically, emotionally, like I want to I've always
wanted to be able to be authentic and to be myself and to do things
according to my own morals and values and beliefs. And I thought I never
thought that was controversial Bill when I started this show ten years ago. Everything
I've gotten into since then is usually starts with me asking kind of an innocent
question that I thought was self evident. Right, even on the vaccine issue.
I got into this posting on Twitter eight years ago that I think people
should decide whether or not they want to get a vaccine. I'm like,
this is this is a no brainer, right. Never never did I realize
that that was I mean, that is is going against such a dogmatic,
almost religious like belief system in this country, right, that is entangled with
you know, pharmaceutical corporations in the government. And you just don't realize this
stuff when you when you get into it. But you know, I've never
I never say things to harm people or hurt people or be controversial. It
just so happens that the concept of freedom, like true, authentic, like
real freedom in liberty is very controversial, and it always has been four thousand
years of humans. I think part of it is. And I don't know
if I'm right or wrong, but I always think like, Okay, you
have the right to say something. I don't have to agree with it or
support it, but you should have the right to do it, you know
what I'm saying. I think that in all on all things. And that's
where on the other side, I often think when I this is going to
sound really strange, but I sometimes think, like when we say words like
fight, it's so resistant and so pushing against that we get nowhere right.
And I always change those things. And the only example I can really give
would be anytime I have I know somebody who has the dreaded cancer and somebody
goes, oh, they're fighting, they're battling, they're fighting, and I
go, no, they're living with they're living with. And I change that
only because I think words have power. I really really do, and I
think that they it's kind of can change. You can change your mindset right
every every subjects to subjects, right, there's the negative end and the positive
end, and it depending on where you want to go. And I know,
like for the vaccine issue, and you and I have talked about this,
I know many people who didn't want to have it right and they so
they just didn't do it. But they didn't they didn't go where you were
loud about it, and I think sometimes to raise it, to raise it
up. I did get it because my mom was very concerned and I couldn't
come visit and blah blah, and I thought, I don't care. I
put so much stuff in this vessel for many minute. I'm proud of that.
I'm just saying I did I get it, So I thought, okay,
However, to your point, I never get a flu shot, so
you wouldn't normally have gotten it if probably not without the societal pressure, without
well from what I thought was preventing people from getting sick. And I didn't
want to see I didn't want to have that on my conscience that I got
someone. I was a carrier, and I spread in all this and maybe
I didn't do enough research on it and I didn't look at it so well.
I did what's very normal what most people did, and they trusted health
authorities, they trusted their doctors, they trusted the government, which I don't
know why anyone trusted trusted well, but there's oftentimes like we had a guy
we talked about out Juneteenth and I had a black gentleman come on and just
kind of say why it's important, right and again, freedom right. I
mean that that that's about freedom right. There's but that's no, but I'm
just saying that's freedom right. That was the day that people actually became free.
And uh he said that you know, one of the things in terms
of like a subtle racism, and this will go back to the government,
is that when crack addicts would be around people like lock them up, lock
them up. Then when they opioid epidemic, kids were like, oh,
well that's open clinics and let's right, because it's more opioids affects white people
crack black people. And then he said crack was a CIA deal, that
they were trying to launder money and they couldn't fund uh contraband down south,
that the government wanted to do so since it didn't get past they this was
their workaround and they started crack and that's how they made their I went,
what. So then I look it up and I go, holy shit,
Now, so that's your government. Oh yeah, okay. Then I watched
the Arnold documentary, which I loved. Okay, and then I said,
I got to watch the movie Twins. And the movie Twins is about government,
right, And they tell the woman the kids die, they take him.
They do this. There's a documentary for real right now on triplets on
Hulu where one was sent to a rich family, one was sent to a
middle class family, and one was sent to a poor family. Oh my
word, it's a documentary the government did that. Listen and all and all.
We'll ask me all the time, they say, well, I get
so. I hate this, Shannon, because I don't want to be conspiracy
theory. I'm telling you. People tell me all the time. Now,
I'm naturally curious. That's why I have this show. That's what I do
what That's why I do what I do. And people accuse me of being
a conspiracy theorist all the time. But you can't unsee these things. The
Tuskegee experiments, they injected African Americans with Syphilis's part of a a secret experimentation,
the human Experimentation conducted in prisons across this country. There are there is
no depth to the depravity and to the evil things that governments will do to
their citizens. And we tend to export that to China or Russia, the
fascist, the communist, the socialists, but we aren't seeing where it is
here in the US, where there is an element and you have to be
And when you say you don't want to say the word fight, I understand.
I understand that. I'm only just saying that. It just seems like
when we're pushing against something so hard, we get more of it. Well,
but here's the deal, Okay. In the dark days of twenty twenty
and twenty one, there was a concerted effort, multi billion dollar effort at
every level of the government, from the media, from our health organizations,
local health organizations, to force and coerce people to take these vaccines against their
will. Now, if it I would have had problem with problems with the
vaccines just in the in the rush to get them done, they you know,
they sped up the process. It was completely shoddy. You cannot do
long term safety testing in one year. You just cannot do it. It
doesn't matter how brilliant the government is they don't have a time machine. They
can't look out ten fifteen years to see what an mrnasynthetic platform injected into people's
bodies is going to do in ten years. So that was absurd. I
would have had a problem with that. But if someone wants to get it
and put it in their body again, I'm okay with that. You have
to. It was the coercion that was moving towards force, and there was
a dehumanization effort against the unvaccinated. You remember Joe Biden in the State of
the Union address where he said the unvaccinated probably twenty five times, and dehumanize
that population of people. I believe if there weren't people like me and the
people who are standing up against this across the country and fighting at that moment,
I believe they would have achieved probably in ninety five to ninety nine percent
uptick r rate and there would not be a placebo group. Right now,
there are thirty five percent is the latest estimate of Americans refused the COVID nineteen
vaccines, and they have been They've lost jobs, they've lost family, they've
lost friends. I've lost half of my friends. I've lost most of my
friends well, I can understand that you're my friends still, but that's good.
But well, come on now. But so it was, it was
great dress standing up and not taking that vaccine well came with a lot of
baggage, and so I don't unless I'm pushed against a wall. Then the
hang on, daggirls. Here's here, I'm gonna go to the match.
Here's where you know I will. I know, I know you will.
But here's where I disagree with you in that I think you do. I
think you're you're loud. Like I have a friend right now, there was
a place in town, a restaurant, and you got very upset. Yeah
I did. I know, well I didn't get very But hang on a
second. Okay, if we're about freedom and their private enterprise, then that's
their choice as well. And I have another friend who he and his family
did not get vaccinated and he just decided I'm not going in and that was
fine and it was no big deal. And he goes, there will be
a time when everything lightens up again and I'll go back in there. And
that's where I'm saying, like, I think, let's explain to you my
thought. Hang on, this is where I think you come so hard sometimes
that people go, well, what the fuck, how come she can go
beedom? Freedom, freedom? But then when I want to do what I
want to do, now I'm an asshole that But that's not what happened.
Number one, our backs were up against the wall. My mother lost her
job twenty five years Highland Hospital. She lost everything because she was unvaccinated.
My sister lost her job everything. I had George Watts Senior on my radio
program who lost his son. Who is George Watts. George Watts Senior is
now one of the source of one of the largest lawsuits brought by Children's Health
Defense. That's Bobby Kennedy's organization. He's amazing. Okay, George Watts came
on to my son. His son got the the fiser mr A vaccine and
was dead a month later, and it is confirmed that it was vaccine induced
myocarditis. There are bodies, There are dead bodies. There are women who
cannot have babies, There are miscarriages. There are debilitating lifelong illnesses like gian
bar syndrome, facial paralysis, the worst side effects you can imagine. Okay,
this is where we were at that time, and we were watching the
uptake, the coercion, the dehumanization, one business after another after another saying
no, no unvaccinated aloud. So this is what happened. I had nothing
to say about that particular restaurant and whatever their policies were, but they posted
a picture on their publicly, on their Facebook page, and it said essentially,
no unvaccinated allowed. Bring your vaccine cards. You are not permitted in
this premise unless you bring your vaccine car. So I responded, this makes
me sad, and okay, okay, that's all. I wasn't loud.
I didn't fight, I didn't call names, I didn't say anything. I
said, this makes me sad. Now I am a public figure. People
picked up on it and it ended up getting big. But that wasn't because
of anything I did. They decided to exclude a population of human beings from
their premises because of their medical status. That is so dangerous. We are
so close. That is so dangerous, And from my estimation, I'm going
to fight like hell against that, the same way people would fight against excluding
a black person from a premise, excluding women from employment, excluding a certain
religious class of individuals. Well, I saw it is the same. It
was a civil rights issue. The courts are going to bear that out.
By the way I hear you on all that. The judges were winning court
cases on that. The only thing I can think at that time, and
it's how dare someone tell their employees you have to you have to a woman
of child bearing age, you have to get injected with an experimental product that
could affect your fertility in order to work here. And then to dangle that
in front of people and say you can't come to work, you can't feed
your kids, you can't pursue your life. That's to me, that's disgusting,
right, I go, so you see, you see how I'm getting
right now? She is, So I see it. But my my,
it's like a medical rape. I consider that medical. But take it back,
take it back a step if you can, and think of it this
way like my therapist istic. No, I'll just take it back a step
and try to think from the standpoint of people who are being told this and
they don't want anybody to We didn't didn't. It was a terrible time.
The thing was we didn't know. I think nobody operated from a we want
to hurt you. It was we want to save you, not in the
lower levels. So your point. That's why I said, it made me
sad because this was a dark, terrible wine. But even but even over
there, they didn't want to exclude people. I get that he didn't want
to exclude people, but I'm saying the hospitals all this at least simple.
This is a very simple This is a simple person's way of looking at it.
But I think it was most people was that we have sick people who
are already compromised in some way. That's why they're here, and we will
want to make sure we can keep them as healthy as possible. I'm sure
the doctors and nurses thought that. I really believe that. Well, I
can't tell you they were pressured, and I'm sure they were. The administrators
of those hospitals right here in Rochester, New York. Every COVID positive patient
that walked through the door that was tested, they got three thousand dollars.
Every patient they admitted for COVID nineteen they got another five thousand dollars. Every
patient they gave remdzeviere, they got another ten twelve thousand dollars. This is
the stuff that got on a ventilator. Yeah, they got forty thousand dollars
and every COVID patient that died in those hospitals alone, without their loved ones.
Those administrators of those multi gazillion dollar institutions, as medical institu usians,
they raked in the cash right CARES money that came in. It's disgusting.
Well, it was the government trying to again I'll say I'm gonna I'm gonna
say it from this side. I think the government was trying to incentify hospitals
to take people that could spread something that could kill a lot of people.
We didn't know. I mean, this was like we didn't you understand what
I'm saying. I don't know who did? I did. Those of us
at the very beginning who had been in the vaccine knew. But how would
you know? Well, I'll tell you, I haven't been in a lab
studying stuff. I mean, I know you're smart, but I'm just saying,
like, ye, I did read the Cares Act, so I did
know that there is I read them. I read the bills, and I
read on the emergency orders at the state level and federal levels. So I
knew about the money trail right when it happened, and I reported it.
Okay, this is what put me on Well, I would always say in
anything, follow the money right. And we've been talking about Big Farmer for
years, and we've seen things. We also knew about the mr anda vaccines.
They had been test seeing m RNA COVID nineteen or not COVID nineteen,
but Corona vaccines for ten years. There were multiple animal studies that I referred
to on my show. This is why I was on the wrong side of
the people who are trying to implement this, because we knew that there were
major problems with m RNA. It's why it was it hadn't been released yet.
All right, let me ask you another question completely away comes you say
I'm on the wrong side. You feel like, do you feel like you're
attacked at times? Well, I think I'm uniquely I'm uniquely prepared to do
what I do. Because you feel like you're attacked at times, I do.
Do you think that? Do you think part of that is because you're
a woman? And I mean that, and I don't mean that in a
in a negative way, but sometimes what will Yeah, Okay, let me
tell you how people like this are described. Okay, wow, Yeah,
that's how some women who have strong opinions and big personalities as you gonna say
big mouths. But that sounded mean, and I'm not trying to be mean.
I'm just saying like, yeah, right, And because you know what
I'm saying, I don't think it's because I'm a woman. I think,
all right, I'm glad. I'm glad that you feel that way because I
don't know anyone saying the things that I would say. So if you look
at um, doctor Robert Malone, doctor Peter McCullough, j Botacharya, some
of the most brilliant, some of them were up for Nobel Prizes. I
mean, these are some of the most brilliant medical scientists, Sasha, A
lot of Pova, who's going to be on my program later next week.
These people are are They are I mean respected, established, They completely canceled,
I mean, called every name in the book. So it doesn't matter
if you're black, white, young, old, um. If you are
going up against this power structure and we're in very dangerous times. It's why
i'm you know, I'm earnest about what I do because I love my kids
and I love freedom, and I see I can see what they're doing because
I study them and I've I've been studying them for ten years, and so
you know, I in terms of being a woman, I think that in
this business, it's male dominated business. That's what I mean. Political commentary.
But I'm not I am not help. I'll tell you what I've had,
no help. Yeah, that's what I was tell Okay, I've had.
This is what I'm saying, no help. You said to me when
we started, I didn't think you like me, and then I said no,
and you said, well, I'm very polarizing. Okay. So when
you're polarizing and you're a woman, I feel like that's another strike in society,
in the world. And I don't mean that in a mean way,
and I don't mean to sound I'm just looking. I'm observing. I'm observing
your word right in this sense. Okay. I'm big names like we'll say
brother Weaves, yeah, okay, um, other big names even on my
radio station, news radio. I'm eleven eighty okay. Um. They're men.
Yeah, they can be controversial, they can be you know, sexist,
they can I mean, they can say anything, can basically do anything
they want, right, and it's all show, it's all you know.
They they're allowed because but from for me, um, it's you know you
can't get a foothold, it's this industry is interesting to me that you know
I've had to despite Do you think you'd have a stronger foothold if you had
played the game? No, a softer approach. And I don't mean to
mean that you have a harsh approach, but I'm just saying, like I
do think like the way I described as a row and I think that you
come baha or or on the other side. If you had more of a
liberal outlook on things, yes, this would be yeah, okay, you
are allowed to be woke. I still want to. I still look at
this industry and even in this community, and the women are sidekicks. The
women are that you don't have. You know, my show it's called the
Shannon Joy Show. Yes it's not Bob and Shannon or Bill and Shannon,
or you try to get Bill and Shannon. But just said go fucking self,
and I went on, any fine, this is so much easier than
a one hour monologue though. Let me tell you, I'm sure, yes,
it is a conversations nice. I love talking to people, and I
like you, am very very curious, So I have no problem with you.
I you know, I like learning this about you, and I think
I think people need to see it from where it comes. If your intentions
are pure. I want to protect my kids. I like freedom. I'm
not saying that just because I believe that. I believe that that's where you
come from, that's where you live. I think that your style and your
stuff, and I think the way a lot of times it's presented on we'll
call it on your side, which sounds shitty to me, but on that
side it comes almost forceful. But I think that the only reason it is
is because no one's listening, yeah, or in order to get hurt.
I've my biggest problem right now in the world of politics when I look at
things is the fringes are are the loudest right, and so we think that
that's where everything is, whether it's the far left and this the woke movement
and whatever, and the far right in this movement and whatever, and I
go, but that's not where most people are. And you can't government except
anywhere but from the middle, and we don't have this stuff, and I
don't know what well to your interesting though, to your point, I am
in the middle. Yes, I know that, yes, as this is
why I wanted you here. Yeah, I think that, you know,
in terms of what we've been taught about politics for the past fifty years,
and it's ingrained in our minds. You are a Democrat or a Republican,
You are right, yes, or your lab and right. Each has this
own their own version of what freedom looks like it, but they don't care
about the other thing. Right, Um, civil liberties and civil rights are
very important to the left. Yes, but they will shove needles in your
They as Alan Dershowitz said, they will strap you down and shove a needle
in your arm, okay, and force a medical intervention on you. Now
on the right, yes, you know, they really want you know,
they're guns and you know all that type of stuff, but they're you know,
very immashed. You're strapping right now. I have a concealed carry pistol.
I'm not going to tell anyone if I'm actually well, you can't say
it. It's concealed. Yeah, yeah, my vanished hulser. That's a
great segue. They're one of my advertise. I saw that I thought i'd
help you out a little bit. Vnsh dot com slash Joy there you go,
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month is part of the deal. And I think it's I think it's cool.
It's a great company. And okay, um, I see my whole
thing. Would when it comes back to the vaccine, I hear you get
and you get very worked up in passion. I'll say this, that's not
fair. I don't like worked up because that sounds mean passionate. Yeah,
that's a fair thing to say. You're very passionate about that. And I
would say that I do believe, at least in the beginning that even though
there was money and stuff, I would still in my head and I know
nothing. I'm just looking at this as a as a human. They were
trying to incentify hospitals to take something that we didn't know was very scary.
Bring these people in, get them out right. We had people dying in
nursing homes. There was a segment of the population that was much more vulnerable
to this and still probably are. And I think that the idea was to
get the vaccine. Now we're starting to see, right, and I think
that people like you have maybe you're being proven like you were onto something.
Yeah, and that, and that's got to feel a little bit better,
because I will tell you I can't feel better. It's tragic for me.
For me, I can tell you the phone calls, the letters, the
interviews, the moments I spent. I spend a lot of time with my
listeners. I show up at their protests and their organizations. People who lost
their grandma's and grandpa's in nursing homes in the most evil, indecrepit and horrific
situations, right imagine dying alone, completely isolated. It was such a dark
time, and no one really saw it. That part of twenty twenty was
not presented to people on the mainstream news media, and so that penetrates my
heart, and those people I can't ever forget them. I can never forget
George Watts, and I agree with you that the middle people to the restaurant
owners who who you know, implemented vaccine mandates, and the nurses and the
doctors, and the most I would say ninety percent of the population that complied
with all of this did not realize what they were complying with. They wanted
to do the right thing, and the people for the people who did this
to us though. They prayed on our good nature and our good will,
and that's so disgusting to me. Like it's like the people there, there
were people, and you know that's where we're right now. We're trying to
sift through all this. I love Bobby Kennedy Jr. He's really helping.
And you know, especially in terms of you saying like the like what is
the middle? Where is the middle? The middle is the most um most
dangerous place to be because that's a place where you just really believe in freedom.
Yeah, and it's not used for a political agenda or progress or corporate
agenda or governmental agenda. They hate that. That's what they're they're trying to
pull us apart, and they succeeded with COVID. I would say, you
can even you know when when you take it to the money, take it
away from the vaccine for a second, and we can win our two.
Yeah, but we can. And again, I it does make us sound
like we're sheep right the people that did it in a way, I mean
it does if we were gonna, if we're gonna put it, you know,
you preyed on people's good natures. I would have Benna sheep ten years
ago. So my eyes were opened when my kids were vaccine injured. That's
when my eyes were ye. Right. So I don't want to come here
and say, oh, I knew everything and you guys didn't. I didn't
know. I was in my category as right wing a Republican. I was
in the matrix, so to speak. And then an event happened that that
may me see things in a different way, and that had to do with
the vaccine. So then I went down. You go down the rabbit hole,
and it's terrible. Vaccine injured. Like I do think that there are
vaccines we need. Why we don't want certain things coming back, and if
we can avoid polio, and it does pop here about polio. I'm gonna
deep dive in polio right now. Yeah, I won't go into it.
I'll scare you, but do you understand Like but again, like again,
we've seen less of it. We seem to have eradicated that from society.
You don't see many people who have who had polio. I had a teacher
who had polio and he had a very hard time moving and he was my
track coach and he was the best track coach I've ever had. Because he
just focused. He couldn't do what you could do, but he could tell
you how to do it, you know. And uh, but we've seemed
to eradicate, so I think in some ways. But I believe me.
I'm aware of some of the vaccine injuries and the concerns, and I have
been hearing things of people with the COVID vaccine of injuries and things. There's
some very very strange things and people I know personally that are going through some
stuff. Yeah, so that aside. But take it to climate change.
Now, there's a weather guy that, uh, people have gone kind of
hard at. He's a he's a climate denier. And he's not saying I'm
a climate denier. He's saying, you know, when we put out things
or what does a climate denier, Well, you deny climate happens like name
people like that. That's part of the dehumanization process. Anti vaxxer's unvaccinated climate
denier. It's an ad hominem to just take a person out. We aren't
there ad hominems that come from the other side as well. I don't.
I don't use ad hominem. I do assholes. No, I'm kidding,
right, I'm very disciplined with myself to not use that ad hominem. Okay,
I'd be surprised if anyone could find anything in past ten years where I
call someone a name, like a person individual. I will say those like
those those rat bastards, you know, But it's usually in general like the
you know the people are doing. This. Guy's thing is like, you
know, we're supposed to have maybe we could have more ninety degree days than
we've ever had. And he said, go back and look. We had
in our city more ninety degree days in the forties and fifties than we've had
in the past twenty five years. But no one wants to look at the
data. And he said, I'm not saying that, yes, urban areas
where we have more cars, are we warming up properly. Yeah, But
at the same time, we need to look at all the data and we
need to be good stewards of the planet, right, we need to be
good stewards of the planet. So if that means you want to have an
electric car, and here's where I go on electric cars. I love cars,
love driving fast. I've driven a bunch of electric cars. I'm just
not convinced those batteries are great, right, And the batteries have metals in
them. That's why we have life Cycle, which is a company here that
that recycles the batteries because you need the metals and we can't get the metals,
the precious metals out of the earth and all this stuff. So you
know, I don't I don't know where the right thing is. But if
you have an electric car, good for you that. Yeah, thanks.
I think there have been studies done on electric cars too, and electric car
was first, by the way, and most people don't know this well.
And I think it takes up just as much energy, or you use as
much energy as a as as you know, maybe I just think the pollution
is less, right, So we're just saying, yeah, you know,
they don't Your first clue when when someone is not an honest broker, Yeah,
the first clue is when they launch an ad hominum. So if they
call him anti climate or climate denier, that means they don't want to look
at his data. And the reason they don't want to look at his data
is because his data will completely obliterate what there because remember everything is about it's
money and power. Yes, this is what I was trying to get to
is that if you look at certain funding is where's it coming from? And
when I talk to this guy, it was yeah, because some people will
say, we're not going to fund that unless you kind of skew it to
look this way or come with these results, and I think that's not right.
We need to look at things. Listen, you know you have to
be I've always thought like critical thinking is probably something that needs to be taught
more and I don't even know that you can teach it. But looking at
all things, this is where you know, I've always been a big believer.
We see the cost of education is astronomical, right, but oh that's
big money. That's a multi billion dollar industry education. You know, they
got rid of the factories. They took the kids out of the factories.
You remember their little fingers and they could you know, and made that illegal
and then shove them all into the big boxes in the industrial school system.
Right. Wow. So like you, it's it's education as it exists today,
in my opinion, is about making adults money. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm thinking of college. And when I was where, I was talking college
this but you're right. My point with college was that that's gotten astronomical.
Yeah, And I feel bad because we're using people are using it more as
a training school or a trade school. And I think that you need to
go for knowledge for the sake of knowledge, so you can be a critical
thinker, right, so that you can look at all sides and go out
in the world. And I think that's something. But that's a luxury.
That's a luxury these days that many people do not have anymore. And I
you know, with my sons and stuff, I've tried to I mean we
do private schools and all kinds of things because I love That's a big deal
to me. Learning to write, being able to look at all sides is
very important. That's a skill you need to have. Well, absolutely,
you need to. You need to know history. You need to understand history
because when you do, if you look at at history in a chronological way,
right, we don't do that. Notice how they chop everything up for
kids and they make it very confusing, right. Um. The classical education
model, which we abandoned one hundred years ago in the country, taught a
linear They taught, you know, a chronological history of the world starting with
the Bible. They did a biblical history as well. And you know,
the Bible is one of the oldest source documents. I mean, it should
be studied by every kid. I mean, regardless of what your your religious
beliefs are, because of that rich history. But when you look at chronological
history, you will see cycle after cycle after cycle. This is how people
can predict things. This is how people people who know that in You're like,
how did you know that? It's usually people who study history because the
nature of human beings does not change, and it hasn't since biblical times,
hasn't since you know, when Jesus walk the earth. It is always the
story is always money and power, and people will do horrible things to accumulate
money and power. And when you have a population of people who become sheep,
who go to sleep and don't remember liberty, they don't remember our founding
of the country or the declaration of independence, they will be lured into these
situations where the money and power becomes so accumulated and so vast that these people
will do horrible, horrible things to human populations. And that's where we're always
fighting against. You know, no, I know, but I'm thinking as
you're saying this, they go, sure, but as somebody's running around because
they have a job and they got to get to work, and they and
they don't want to And that's how we sort of, I guess becomes as
we say, sheep, but you've got stuff you got to do, and
you're free to go around doing it, and you have a nice life,
and you had a house and you've got things and you and you can live.
And they don't want to get caught up in the in the in the
bullshit or the fight. And I think that that's where people go. I
really do I know. But you know, all you need is a you
need a remnant. You need a minority of people talk about things we're talking
about today and help people remember those things. And then every everyone in their
own you know, people tune this stuff out because they think, but what
am I going to do? What can what can I possibly do? I
don't matter, you know. It is a it's an apathy that is not
because people are jerks. It's because they've been convinced by the powers that be.
I mean, look at we go from Republican Democrat president back and forth
and back and forth, and they lie to us, they cheat, They
are the worst of the worst of the worst, and they abuse this population
of people, and they convince us that we're not Oh, that's just how
the sausage is made. That's the most disgusting thing to say, how the
fudge is passed. Yeah, that's just how the sausages made. They're basically
saying to us, though you don't deserve to have good government, we don't
deserve to be told the truth. Yeah, and so we've lost that.
We can regain that as a citizen tree. But it just takes enough people
waking up in these conversations and then in your own corner of the world,
do your own little one thing, whether it's you know, sending your kid
to private school, homeschooling your kid, do you send your kids to public
school? They aren't in public school? Are three are going to be in
Fairport? Okay? Yeah? So Fairport just had something where they people were
very upset. Yeah, because I think they were gonna refer to everybody as
parents or guardians. They didn't want to talk about mom or dad. And
I'm getting all this stuff where I'm like, I'm a dad, and here's
my thinking on that. I don't care. Well, because you don't you
don't want to look at what the larger Well, no, but but here's
here's my thing. I I will say, I feel like when they do
that, you're saying we're trying. They're trying, at least one a very
simplistically to be inclusive. But I think by saying that, you're almost taking
those people who fit that have two dads, have two moms, have or
do whatever, right, that live with grandma. You're already marginalizing them just
by saying it. Right, But I go, why do we get so
caught up in that when the whole purpose should be to build the kid?
I don't give a shit what you want to be talking about. How what
pronoun you want to Who cares? Fine, I'll call you him they she
we. I don't care. But let's get to how do I reach your
child and make you feel like you can? Right? That's the job?
How do I get how do I help every kid feel like they win?
You're coming to this from a common sense in rational positions. But but but
my point is, like all that other shit, it seems like we get
bogged down. Who cares fine? Calling parents guardians? I don't care.
But then somebody's going, well, I'm a dad. Yeah, But You're
not on the dad of every kid there, so why do you care?
But what you're falling into again is why you have to people who are like
I don't care. Why on earth with these morons? Okay, well,
I think to try to be inclusive because we're trying to include comend it.
But but okay, but remember we talked about the physicians and the doctors and
the people who shut down and take me down this tree. Because I want
to hear this sounds conspiracy to me, Shannon, I'm just telling you,
I'm not listen. I've stopped trying to figure out why people do things.
I just identify dumb ass things. Okay. Okay. It is a dumb
ass thing to shove a substance into your body that has not been tested or
studied. Okay. And it's also a dumb ass thing to force other people
to do it, okay, or take away their job. Okay. It's
dumb to create seventy seven pronouns or adverbs and change the entire English language and
confuse these little children and tell them that they can be a boy or a
girl and all of these crazy they tell you. See, I don't have
kids that age, so are they telling them in school. This this is
where I go. Come on, man, yes, Bill, what I'm
listening. I'm here. There is graphic triple X rated child pornography in nearly
every library of every Fairport school, including the elementary schools. Okay, but
these would fit the definition federal statues of child porn You tell me on what
universe where we have identified probably three dozen and we add to the list every
day. Okay. These are books that would meet the federal and state statutes
of child pornography. They are depicting children under age having sex with each other,
engaging in oral sex um. They have pictures images of men and boys,
adult men and a young boy engaging in a sexual act. They have
the most graphic depictions of of it's called ancient grease. Well, right,
but if you have that on your computer, Bill, if you have that
on your computer and you disseminate it, you're going to get yanked for child
cards. These why wait, wait, wait wait wait, why are they
fighting so hard we have Well, look, I don't want books banned,
but I don't know that. I don't know, I don't know. I'm
not in the school, so I can't say. But how do we what
are the titles these books? What are are these books? Okay? So
I mean this book is gay. Yeah, and this book is gay among
other things. There is a section that teaches kids how to use sex apps.
So it's number one, download the sex app, and they have product
codes QR codes where people can go in their graphic triple X born. Okay,
number one, download the sex app. Number two, take a pick
of yourself and upload it. Number three, turn on your location device so
that you can be near the nearest homosexual. Number four you can meet up.
All right, I am this verbe no, okay, okay, that
is here's where that that's putting kids they can be. That's dangerous. And
that book is in the middle school. You're talking to somebody that was molested
as a child. So that's okay. So I'm just saying no, no,
no, no, I'm sorry, hang on, hang on, stop
for a second. I that's no no problem. I agree with you.
A book like that is you're putting kids. We wouldn't want that. Nobody
would nobody would want that. On the other side of this, though,
many years ago on the radio, we did what we thought was funny.
Uh we found out that men who are on the down low. Married men
would would back their car into area parks around here, and if somebody else
backed in, they would hook up and they would have their game owner and
then they would go back to their life. So we thought, on our
show, let's find out who's the most attractive person on the show, so
we would back our cars in. I left with a completely different and very
sad view of the world because an older guy, just a happy looking grandpa,
pulls in and pulls up next to somebody and they said, I'm waiting
for my wife. The guy goes, hey, what's going on. He
goes, hey, what are you doing. I'm just here to I'm waiting
for my wife, he says. The guy goes, I'm married, okay,
and the old man goes me too, and he holds up his ring
and he goes, oh, well, I'm waiting for my wife. And
all I could think was how sad, because, as we say, we've
marginalized people, and you couldn't be who you are if you're and I believe
when you're gay, I don't think that's something that you can be taught you
either, are you aren't? I think that just as wrapped up that you
know, feeling compassion for a marginalized group or wanting people to is so different
than should we place child pornography and children? Now we shouldn't, and so
we should see how they rich You see how they call me a book burner.
Now, here's the thing about a school library. Do you know,
they're like a gazillion books out there. Like a school library doesn't have to
house every single book on the face of the planet. They have a process
where they go through and they look for books that are appropriate for kids,
that are appropriate for they have educational value. Okay, so this idea that
we want to burn books is insane, That's it. But they do it
again. And this goes back to the theme of everything we talked about today.
They call those of us who are trying to protect children. They do
not want to discuss the merit. They don't want to look at the book,
they don't want to be shown. We have binders. This thick with
documentation. It's been submitted. If there are investigations at the Monroe County level,
the state level, the FBI, and there are now federal investigations in
to what this is the dissemination of child porn art. This is a big
deal, yea, what they're doing. And but but they don't they don't
want to discuss that. Now. I can't, for the life of me
figure out why. If it's that they just want to hold onto this this
power that they have at schools and they just don't want parents. But this
goes back to what you're saying about, you know, you know parents and
you know, refusing to call them mom or dad or you know, like,
well you're calling your parents or gardens. And they did that in my
school again. But I think that when you talk about freedom and liberty,
you're not going to hear me out about that. Stupid I think it's not.
I hear you, but um to me, it's like it's a waste
of time. I'm not gonna I'm not going to burn calories on something I
don't need to do. Well, if I get upset about that, understand
that larger picture. The larger picture is to is to marginalize and minimize the
family and a natural structure family because government institutions, when they can, you
know, part of the dehumanization processes, they move people to slaver You laugh
about slave century, Hang on a second, I'm not the rule of history.
I got you like, that is the rule, not the exception.
Class is the exception. My point is when we say things like dehumanization,
I just can't see things going that far. So I laugh at it going.
I think we would stand up at some point and go, we can't
the family structure of mom, dad, children, it's changed because people aren't
all the same. Not everybody's going to be attracted to a woman, right,
and not everybody's going to be attracted to a man if they're a woman,
right. So we've got that right. And the other thing is I
had. There was a gay gentleman in here yesterday who said, growing up
it was hard because I've always been I've had I would gesticulate and I had
a higher voice, and I got picked on in the locker room. And
I will tell you man, I grew up in the eighties, Shannon.
I played a lot of sports. I was in the locker room all the
time. The worst thing you could have been was gay. We all showered
in one room with showerheads. Okay, I feel terrible. You know what.
I was a Christian and a virgin. Imagine that. Imagine being a
born again Christian as a girl and what you get exposed to. I mean,
so people have hard times, very point accommodations for Christians. No one
cares that I that. Well, let's talk about that. Well, if
we're going to sit here and talk about how you know, there are all
of these I'm you know, victim groups. I could sit here and say
as a woman, I'm a victim. I can sit here and say as
a Christian, I'm a victim. But have I told you I'm a victim?
No? And I'm not saying that because that's not because that doesn't do
me any good and it doesn't do kids any good. No. But what
we're saying, you're coddled and being you're taking this the wrong way. What
I'm what I'm trying to say is I think like for that guy, the
world today is a little more accepting if you're different, we're a little more
accepting. Do we need to shut people like me? Well, this is
because you're a big mouth and you come charging it people and you go back
to see all the pride of flags everywhere les yes, everyone has a big
match like there's yes, there's but see they say it as acceptance and this
seems like people like me, Well, who's not accepting you? Who I
mean, I was not accepting you. I don't even know. You can't
see, that's what. And nobody's against Christians. Christians. Look, I
always thought I'm not a very religious person. Um. I do think that
I have more of a of a spiritual person. And I do think that,
uh, there are lessons in the Bible. I think they've been widely
misinterpreted. And I think there's all kinds of things. And I think when
you talk about you know, power and stuff. Yeah, Jesus got really
pissed off and he went into the temple and he kicked over tables and he
screamed to people, this is the house of my father and you're selling money
and doing things. And they and they basically that was when they decided to
kill him. And you know, he believed he you know when when he
did this, he killed a fig tree and on the way and he was
so pissed off because he could it wasn't bearing fruit. He was hungry.
He was angry, right, he was hangry, and he killed Wonder about
that scripture that was the one that always confused I'm like, why would you
you know with this? Because he was so mad and Peter said to him,
Jesus he had the balls to go, Why did you kill this tree?
And he said, if you believe, fully believe, you can move
them outain. Yeah, mustard seed, but you can. And I think
that that's where we lose it. Our minds are so powerful, but sometimes
we get caught up in this resistance and fighting and resistance and fighting that we
just don't go anywhere, and we get all this drama and we play it
out. We become Shakespeare. Life is play by your By that example,
there would never be a Sam Adams, there would never be George Washington,
there would never have been a revolutionary war, never like you need people.
I know that it's uncomfortable for it. And you know what, I'm not
calling for everyone to stand no, no, I hear. I feel you
know in terms of my faith, you know you cannot separate what I do
every day from my faith. I am a Bible believing Christian, nondenominational.
So I've read my Bible, you know, Old Testament to the Book of
Revelations multiple times. I started with a children's Bible, by the way,
because it was easier. It's lovely. I recommend it to anyone if they
ever want to do that. The understanding that you get just even if you're
not a Christian. M So my faith drives everything that I do everything,
And so the idea of of standing up and fighting is something that I feel
like I just have to do and I have to do it because I know
that other people won't and they're afraid to and I want to do it for
them. I want to do it for my kids because because something inside me
was built in a way that I can be. I can have people not
like me or not like the show, or say mean things to me or
mean things about me, and I can lose friends. And while I don't
like that, it doesn't I don't. I don't care that much. I
don't like it, but I okay, I think I think he kind of.
I think it bothers you. When I think it's I think it put
farmer on you. It's not. And that's where I feel like, you
feel like now I've got to fight against because nobody likes me. Nobody likes
Everybody loved me before I started my radio show, like I Yes, I
like we didn't you do? Like beauty tips or something on Warm Yeah,
soft rock station deals with Shannon. Yeah, it was my because when I
got into this, I wanted I wanted to do exactly what you were talking
about. Um, I am not, by my nature a an aggressive person
or a mean person. That's not my nature at all. Okay, I'm
nature. Well, I'm I don't think I think people think. I think
people think I'm different. They hear about my show, and they hear about
who people say that I am. Yes, but I don't think a lot
of people. Actually, That's why I asked you, how would you describe
yourself when we started. That's why I said, well, I'll tell you
I love Jesus, yes, and um, every day what I try to
do you cannot because I'm a sinner and I make a million mistakes. But
I try to be as much like him as I can. That's really who
I try to be. And I make, like I said it, make
a lot of mistakes, and I don't do things. You know, Well,
Jesus to me was pure positive light. But he did carry a sword.
No, no I'm not. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying
he was pure positive light. And I always think of things like if anything
you want to do anything in life, I always think back to when he
would cure people, right, and he would say, go forth and tell
no one, because everybody's going to come at you with what I would say
is a pure intention. I would even say the people who got back to
it was with a pure intention. And I think that they're going to tell
you, well, you know, he cured you, but it could come
back, and then you start to put doubt in your mind. And that's
why he says, don't And that's why anything I'm gonna do, I usually
if it's a big idea, I don't say anything and tell him down the
road a little bit, because people will talk you out of stuff. And
I think that sometimes. You know, the other thing that Jesus was like
some people think he was the ultimate hippie in terms of loving and accepting.
Well, he came to fulfill the law, abolish the law. So he
upheld the Old Testament law. And he was very clear about sin. He
was very clear, and he you know, he did not say that we
come to everything from good intentions. He said we are sinners by nature.
Um, there's bad in us, but through him, Yeah, he's you
know, that was very clear. That's I mean, that's biblical. Now
listen, Yes, that's why you read it. Well. I read it
to see kind of where do I believe this? And I went through that
whole process of trying to figure out if I believed I was raised a Christian.
And then I was like, I wors to believe that I was too,
And so I looked at all the other religions and I, you know,
and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go straight to the
source and see if I believe this. And you know, I know you've
got a kind of a heart out here. Let me let me just say
this in terms of you know, the Jesus stuff. I think there are
many teachers. I think Jesus is a wonderful was a wonderful teacher. I
think the message comes from different people in different ways. It's usually kind of
the same thing. I think we our life has lived in our mind.
I think we can get caught up in a lot of things. You and
I could go to the same party. I could leave there thinking I had
a great time, and you could leave their going conversations are good because I
get you out of you. No, I agree, But so when I
when I look at all this stuff, like with Jesus and things. I
always think you are more energy than you are physical being, and you got
to kind of tap into that. And I feel like there's so many messages
in the Bible and things that that we miss on that I think there are
things that were said by Him and by others that kind of go, hey,
there's you know, there's nothing really going on here. We're making a
much in the spirit. This is something I've learned over the past three years
really, But you know, here's the liberty message though. On all of
that. Um, I have my belief system as a Christian, and I
believe certain things that might be offense of to other people, and other people
believe things that might be offensive to me. The Bible, you know,
in the creation, we were created in the image of God and we had
a touch of the divine, which is free will, the ability to choose
him or to reject him. So there is a liberty message. This is
why I would never say we should ban you know, homosexuals or banyan.
And you know, unless it's dealing with children, you mess with children and
I'm gonna come at you. But in terms of adults living their lives,
you'll never hear me making determinations about that. I do believe because I believe
God told us that he gave us the choice right. That's part of my
belief system. So that's how you can rap. That's how you can be
a Christian. But in also engage, embrace liberty, and maybe not a
a proove of certain lifestyles or decision making or the way, or not even
ap prove of it. Maybe maybe not believe that that is godly, I
guess, but you can still sit with a person respect their humanity. I
agree with that, and I but I also think that too. I think
that a very simple philosophical idea, and it was many many philosophers had that
early on, but it's a very simple one. Is that there is no
evil if everything comes from source, which is God, and it's pure positive
light. There's a privation of good, that in everything there is good,
even in the bed, even in the evil doers, there is some good.
We just have allowed things to go the other way. And I'm not
saying that there isn't any danger. I think danger because the evil doers will,
they'll manipulate, use that right, they'll use that to get a foothold.
I'm telling you. I'm telling you all right, well I can't.
I mean, people are gonna hear me say that and go, well,
well, how do we talk about in the inner cities where people are killing
each other like crazy, and we got you know, people sealing cars.
That's evil, right, Well, we have laws. We have laws that
need to be worked on, clearly, but we have laws. I just
think that most people it's that. And I think that sometimes when we makes
American sitting ducks though, because because we don't believe. See I get this
all the time. No one can believe that there are people that evil the
people some of the people who do these things, no one, you can't
conceive of it, because no, you would never do it. I understand
that. But I also but let me go to the other side. I
think that when we always live in fear of this shit, we can't truly
live can never live in fear. Do I look like I live in fear?
Well, you talked about a whole bunch of scary shit. It's scary,
but I'm not afraid of it. All right, that's it. But
I think but when but you don't know how somebody's hearing that. I know,
so you need to make that part of your message. I'm not trying
to scare you. I'm trying to open your eyes. You're aware that would
be my thing. That's another like Commandment three hundred and sixty. Sometimes in
the Bible we're commanded to not fear. Yeah, so I do you know
some of the stuff, the nature of the work that I do is scary,
fear base right, Well, no, it's not fear based. Oh
bullshit. Most of the stuff is people are scary of anything. I'm scared
of the vaccine. I'm scared of this. They're coming after me, They're
coming to get me, They're taking away everything. Don't listen to my show.
No I know, I don't, but I'm saying to you, but
that's how people interpret it. I know. And that's not fair either,
because that's a judgment without your As you just said, I haven't listened to
your show. You're one hundred percent right, But I think that that's how
people see it. Yeah, there's a healthy amount. I wouldn't even call
it fear. I would just call it knowledge, knowledge of evil. Yes,
and you've you have to do business with that because if you don't,
it's going to grow and fester. And grow and fester, and then then
you can't stop it, and so we got to address it. You have
to face it. And that's that's really I mean, I'm not fearful.
I'm saying, let's face this. This is a big scary thing. There
are bad people, yes, corporate governmental institutions within our military, and they
do bad things. I don't think they started out that way, but I
think they're trying to hold onto paths. I think you're right, and so
that was that's my point of the constitution. That's my privation of good right,
that would be the pripe. We started with pure intentions, but now
we've gotten here and we need to protect it, and so we do these
things and that's where and you're right agree. I think we agree. We
agree on a lot of stuff. Yes, this is really well. Listen.
I'd love to have you back because I'd love to talk about the documentary.
Yeah you've been working on You're just down in New Orleans and uh projects.
Yeah, I know you've been doing a lot of stuff and I really
appreciate it. The show, Shannon Enjoy Show. Where do I go?
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dot com is my website. All right, Happy fourth of July and I'll
see tomorrow Husband Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Route ninety six in Victor, Land
of Legends Raceway and Cannondegua. They were not racing there this past Monday,
and they're gonna make up those races on July nineteenth, but they are racing
this Saturday night. Get down there, bring the family. Oh, they
got a brand new rand stands in field JumboTron. You will miss any of
the action. And what I think is really cool is this pre race interactive
Little Legends Kids Club. It's where your kids can go. They can make
crafts, but they can also get up close with the drivers in their cars
and really see what it takes. I find those things mind expanding for little
kids. Right, Oh, I could do this. It's really cool to
bring your kids and just expose them to everything, especially at Land of Legends.
And if you get hungry, of course you will. They have mouthwatering
concessions, novelty stands, food trucks that will satisfy any craving at all.
You'll find the schedule at Land of Legends Raceway dot com. So why not
make a visit to twenty eight twenty County Road ten and let the adventure begin.
Land of Legends Raceway the ultimate dirt racing experience.