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Welcome to startups. Copy Tolks the
first podcast designed by the incubator and accelerator

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Starkups and conducted by Alejandro Lómez.
Our main objective is to connect more entrepreneurs

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with the innovation and penture capital ecosystem
in Mexico, Latin America and Silicon Valley.

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While we enjoy together a delicious cup
of coffee, we begin hello Ebrodors

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how they are very good afternoon.
Today I have a world- class super

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event of forgiveness. We have a
great guest today I give a startup Scofft

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Tolks, who is going to visit
us this week. He' s in

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Querétaro giving some talks up to innovation
workshops. He is a friend I met

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about six seven years ago in Silicon
Valley is one of the world' s

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leading innovation leaders. In fact,
it was part of your innovation consultant today.

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But I' m going to talk
a little bit about your beginnings.

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I still don' t say the
name to let them see who it is.

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Him. He is an innovation psychologist
with more than twenty- five years

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of experience in human factors, product
innovation and experience designs. His extensive experience

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includes the design of cabins, spacecraft
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After working in Palo Alto’ s
offices for the company Aidio, there

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is God, one of the world’ s most important innovation agencies. He

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also founded this office in Telavit.
After being in Silicon Vallin. But before

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that her would have been fantastic,
because she even went from being a pilot,

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from the air force to innovation with
NASA, and today she has formed

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one of the world' s most
important innovation consultants, called Innovation Ship.

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And I am welcoming today a great
friend who, in fact, is accompanied

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by another great friend, also my
partner in startups for many years. First

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is aLeon Sigeal, who is one
of the founders of Innovationship and a great

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driver of innovation based on user,
empathy and, above all, is also

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only the meditation of good tastes.
And it is here in us in this

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education, accompanied by another great friend, Luis Alfonso Ramírez, another expert in

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renewal of Querétaro that will help us
transmit a little bit of the information that

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speaks to us read. But,
today I have two g guests, both

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Leoncy already and elis Alfonso Ramírez,
who will tell us a little bit about

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this. You more history of my
nest, hello Leon, how you'

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re welcome, Stacs, Pofit Tolks. Good morning, more er thank you,

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Hello Aleis Alfonso, how are you
welcome starckst offyt Tolks, How about

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Alex welcome the audience and here Leon
with us here will be helping. Thank

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you, thank you, well,
how is this podcast? Now it'

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s going to be a little bit
in English. I' m going to

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touch myself to give Spanish a little
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going to help the Alfonsos a lot
to transmit this information that shares it with

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Leon and we will be responding.
I would like to start this podcast by

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welcoming Lyon Leon Wol Soma Toby Hear
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I would like to ask Leon how
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part where he comes from, how
Leon Seal is born in this world of

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digital transformation and innovation. Itin st
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wind My the Force one of the
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teach o' s my storm Wow
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he has had as a pilot of
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became well known about how to improve
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his jets and even his theme,
Luis Alfonso. I would like a little

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bit also before starting with all the
Lyon practice that you also preach to us

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who Luis Alfonso Ramírez is and what
he is doing right now on the subject

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with innovation along with Lyon. All
right, because we are in the process

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of building a community of innovation agents
in Mexico. The intention is to have

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that seed sown so that we can
grow together and as we talked with Lyon.

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Coca cola, the best coca cola
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and the best beer also because we
want to sow that seed of innovation in

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Mexico and make innovation of our own. I am a business leader and an

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innovation expert and, well, I
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of innovation agents in Mexico right now. All right, all right. Thank

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you, Luis. I' d
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know that one of your issues that
you like most, apart from being the

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one to create innovation and support others, is within the human being. And

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I also know you like meditation.
I know you do a lot of work

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on innovation issues, but first you
teach people also how important to meditate and

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innovation comes from within you you even
start by saying that innovation starts with one

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eye. How does this work or
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otd huhman focus design and meditation up
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s and lives winton o o sas
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continue to ind gaps on to out
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going to comment a little bit on
what Leon said, but I love what

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I hear because it goes very hand
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about impellers, which we think innovation
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is born into others themselves. It' s born of the heart. Like

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meditation. Meditation is very personal.
It' s a way to relax yourself

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to understand what problem you' re
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you have to leave your mind blank
and relax and ideas. Solutions come

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from an important energy source, as
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problems. And a few points is
that innovation is totally focused on the user,

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on people, on how we improve
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lifestyle, our whole world, and
how we do things better. For that

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intention creativity. It has to do
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beings to be better than others in
their quality of life. So, these

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words that tell us fantastic scripts.
Leon I would now like to ask you

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about how you see the issue of
innovation in Latin America we are approaching solving

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really important problems today. It has
a mega tendency that you think we have

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to do as Latin Americans, or
in what we have to work as Latin

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American entrepreneurs to make more innovation,
very similar to what you are today to

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the VIP in Silicon Valley, in
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ovation nyvation on the context, then
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considered the slow way and n is
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the world an clun theient PSS and
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the potention of work in Lima,
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How interesting what you' re saying
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that I' m most left with
this that tells me that is never going

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to be another Silicon Valley in other
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re going to have to attract or
adapt that thought of creativity, of innovation

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that we have in Silicon Valley,
but adapted and tropicalized in our countries,

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their localities in which we live,
but focused on defending or finding really important

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problems in each locality and with that
empathy that we have to lead the innovation

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issue is in having their problems to
develop them, a point that the important

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challenge of Latin America has always gone. We want to copy the whole subject,

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not copy it, as you said
jobs Roba, but adapt and tropicalize

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your business model, your country model, your culture model, so that you

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can tropetilize innovation to your real needs. And you never want to replicate a

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Silicon Valley model. There is going
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an oval crater and you want to
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but with every one of its needs. And in the end, the

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approach to innovation is how to help
be a better place. Luis Alfonso,

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what do you think about this?
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with Leon about it and we agree
that when we try to imitate the mentality

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in a process in which they are
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then the plant does not grow or
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we are betting on is to optimize
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to adapt alone and then optimize that
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flavor to innovation and not keeping with
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living Tela, with the formula of
Madrid. We have to generate our own

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formula with what Lion says, which
defines as the spirit of innovation. That

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essence of innovation that goes beyond an
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mindset and a sharing and remember are
two words is the tropicalization or customization of

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the process and the optimization of the
process. I think I would add to

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that that I totally agree with many
reasons for how we tropicalize, adapt and

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how we better optimize these solutions to
these problems that we are finding an important

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point of innovation and something that sounds
today. We are in Latin America,

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we are experiencing a very important stage
in the issue of value generation. But

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if we are going to value,
I mean new solutions that are being created

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or that were created a couple of
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today the so- called technological unicons. We' re not seeing the issues

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that he' s already born.
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that' s got a million-
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have a famous Kaback, we have
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we have eight platforms that have been
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not one. My question to the
point is we are really focused on solving

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problems that are ours now, in
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or we are only covering a little
basic needs. For example, I see

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many startups that are born in issues
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What a father I' m glad
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but the problems of water, food
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be an opportunity to create innovation in
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even make me think of my kids
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did you do for this planet so
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grandchildren and my grandchildren. And I' m not delivering the other bottles of

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plastic anymore, am I? So
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really important and drastic changes to the
planet to live better, and not just

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us coming down. We, we
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Even and perhaps now we are seeing
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not seen so serious before and we
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of thought. How we can work
Lyon on the subject. Three concepts I

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like very much. Trick concepth A
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collaboration and empathy for the future and
entrepreneurs today, what do they have to

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do to use these tools and that
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these values with really important problems from
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I think it gives us 50 hours
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is to listen to others. That
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and open to hearing other people'
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the same time, the other person' s. In the same way,

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have the empathy to be open and
take your ego aside, the ego to

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step aside to accept new ideas.
I think that' s what entrepreneurs,

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entrepreneurs, investors or anyone in Latin
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not always empathetic until there is a
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When it comes to football or when
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we put our batteries and collaborate together. There is that call even open innovation.

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But when we' re not,
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zone we' re in a traditional
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re usually not like that. On
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in Spanish the bucket of crabs,
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another succeed If we see that it' s going well, I' ll

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screw it up. I don'
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Craft Box something like why to make
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years, fifty or a hundred years. Who knows. We' re still

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economy. The interesting thing about this
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meet those needs and problems that are
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to be much worse in a short
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techniques, bring that spirit of innovation
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prototyping storytelling and all the specific techniques, but there is an immense lack,

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there is a process of observation and
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need to develop our capacity for empathy
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our coincidences. Yes, if we
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we' ll stay the same.
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teams, going to different processes and
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Allende and many thousand more things that
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do. What is the plan,
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to help us become a more innovative
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how to generate empathy and that knowledge
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and help them among others. Look
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those agents begin to prepare themselves with
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third point is to bring the process
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from the point of view of two
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that allows, in the context of
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that mindset, and on Friday we' re going to do a workshop

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innovation, to that hybrid collaboration,
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startup entrepreneurship system in Mexico and Latin
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guajiro dreams. People are never going
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make that happen. Seven years later, he comes in the pandemic and you

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business and how we are. Then
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you and criticize you. We must
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that shark that harms your illusioned dream, because if you learn to pibotate and

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fail forward, then you are ready
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fail and take no risks, then
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takes me six hours or six weeks
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leave that recommendation to the audience and
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of success. You can' t
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do well if we' ve failed
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capital, because tell him it hasn' t been learned. And so I

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this podcast and for continuing to strive
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