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Breaking down at all the exes and
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This is I Am the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to Whining the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Stevie's Jake

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and now I'm hoping Jay has breaking
in. This is I on the Ball

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breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. You know, it's a there's a

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lot of stuff, none of it
like earth shattering stuff. But just stow

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did I say this? Uh?
Do as well as do it, do

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very well, like your job dependent
on it? All right. Uh,

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just came across a little bit ago
that the NBA Playoffs on television I averaged

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five point four seven million viewers,
making it the most watched playoffs in five

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years. That sounds about right.
Well, look at the bubble thing was

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disaster, Yeah, said NBA games
accounted for fifteen of the top twel he

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most watched programs among people under fifty
since the start of it. Wouldn't you

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think that? I think they even
said that the big concern was the markets,

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well, Denver not being a great
market. But I think it was

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a great story. Yeah, it
was a great story, and I think

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again, people, you know,
the underdogs were winning, right, people

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love underdog. You know the Lakers
went far the uh, the the heat

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went far. Um. Yeah,
I think I think that that was that

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was the thing. Okay, um, let me see what do I want

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to do next. Arizona got a
Arizona football got a commitment from a recruit

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today. Um and do wah okondaia
or something like that. There's some about

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that. You believe he's a he's
a defensive lineman out of I can't remember

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where um six three two twenty is
what he is, what he says he

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is, um and uh, he's
he's committed himself to Arizona. The one

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thing you have to admit, and
we've talked about this often, Jed is

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working his butt off. Yeah,
he got the man. Jed is is

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doing a lot of things, uh, spending a lot of money, making

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things happen. Uh. And if
you want to compare him to someone,

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you can't because someone did nothing.
He didn't do the work. But he's

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doing a great job of getting out
there. Yeah, exactly, um okay

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Uh. Four Arizona players got All
Region were named All Region by the American

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Baseball Coaches Association. Two of them, who you would think Geeko or Marian

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Chase Davis were first team, so
that makes them eligible to be first team

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or to be All Americans. Nick
mcclorie and mac Bingham were second team All

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Region. So that's UH says,
it's the second time that that Arizona's got

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four spots on the All Region team, and it's the first time that's twenty

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twelfth they won the College Series.
There you go. Um, so here's

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an interesting one. UH, South
Florida, who has been playing at Tampa

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Bay Buccaneers Stadium, are gonna build
themselves a stadium on campus for three hundred

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and forty million dollars um. They're
gonna they're gonna do two hundred million dollars

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in debt and then one hundred and
forty million dollars coming from sources fundraising and

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that time program. Yeah, decent
program playing in the American Athletic Conference.

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I think very much would like to
get into, you know, a big

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twelve in accat, but it's it's
gonna be. It's kind of like on

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the San Diego State model, right, thirty five thousand seats stadium. We

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both said you and I said,
I think we agreed that would be that

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stadium would be perfect for Tucsons perfect. Well, you know when they ultimately

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when they finish the put chairback seats
through the whole stadium, and it's they're

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doing a little by little, like
the middle section under the upper deck is

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chairbacks. Now you got the Lowell
Stevens in that. Yeah, so what

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as you you know, the like
when when they when they when they rebuild

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the west side, right, because
they're gonna knock that down and rebuild it.

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The the the the the attendant is
gonna dip the not attendants, capassit

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is gonna dip into the forties.
Which is why I'd rather have a nice

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chairback seat than not somebody that I'm
rubbing butts with, you know, and

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seeing it, seeing it full,
seeing it more full. Yeah, And

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a ticket hard hard to get it
if you need to get the ticket right

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right, because let's let's say,
let's call it. I know they said

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they had the sell out with Oregon
last year. There were not fifty thousand

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people in the state, you know, or maybe forty five, even though

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they may have sold all the tickets. You know, forty five thousand is

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probably about what Arizona is gonna max
out at when when the builds the state

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right right, so that I think
that's that's what what would it be?

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But anyway, South Florida, so
you're gonna get get their stadium on campus.

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You know, we were talking about
the uh, the uh the celebration

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in Denver. He said, ten
people shut, the people shot shut.

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But can you imagine if Vegas O
Wednesday Cup tonight in Vegas. Oh well,

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I don't think it's pot Wow,
I didn't even think of that.

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I'm thinking it's not popular because I'm
not a hockey guy. But you're right,

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no, right nuts about their hockey
team, their nuts about everything.

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Man, And that arena is on
the strap. No, I get it.

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No, that's it's what. It's
Tuesday, It's Tuesday. It doesn't

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matter what day it is in Vegas. Give a reason people to have a

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fun time and then create. Man. So on the yield, Vegas,

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they they've got, they got the
panthers tonight in Vegas. So with a

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chance to get there's no time for
cops to be on. You do not

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want to be there tonight. If
they hit it, well they hit it

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all right, Somebody asked Joe Burrow
who he thinks is the best quarterback in

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the NFL right now? Who do
you think? He said, my one?

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Well, two guesses, two guesses, and I'm probably gonna be wrong.

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Josh Allen or um um, Kansas
City's guy Pat Mahomes. You don't

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think he would have said himself,
No, he's uh, he's smarter than

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that. Yeah he did. He
said, Pats, Yeah, dude's good.

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He said, there's no work.
Who oh yeah? Who's who would

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you think? Who would you say? If I if I would say,

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I would say Pat Mohomes? Yeah? Who who? A second? Who?

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Second? I'm gonna go Joe Burrow. I'm gonna take Josh Allen just

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still not quite there when you need
him to be well, because he doesn't

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have a good group of people like
these guys do. He's carrying the ball,

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he's running the ball, he's throwing
the ball, he's doing everything exactly.

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Speaking of some NFL quarterbacks, George
Kittle was on the Dan Patrick Show

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and he said he's confident Brock Purdy
will be the starting quarterback for the forty

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nine ers. It would make sense, a weak one makes sense. He's

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going to be the guy oh Man, guy coming out of nowhere, right,

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they ship Garoppolo off finally, which
makes me say this, Jay,

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Okay, everybody's in love with what
Tommy Lloyd has done, and so am

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I. He's done some great things
since everybody boot pooed on him in March

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and April May. And he's got
these guys to me being in this business,

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and I'm and I'm not an expert, that talent is overrated. I

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don't know if you want to believe
me, but talent is overrated. You

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have dudes who played Miami's a perfect
example. They got they didn't win it,

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but they got there. And if
you have a group of guys who

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are playing together and having fun and
doing that, um, it's and tell

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talent can't be the only thing you
have, no, of course, not

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no, it's chemistry. It's all
that. It's all that stuff. It's

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a big piece of it. I
mean, it's always better, sure to

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have the best players on the field
of the court, no doubt, no

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doubt. But if you don't have
it, you can work around it.

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Well told, did that? Really? Well? You know, I remember

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the conversation I ad with him one
time. I asked him, you know

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he was going out recruiting. I'm
talking, he said, I can't,

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I'm on recruit. Said do you
like recruiting? He said, what I

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don't like is looking across the field
and seeing a team with better players a

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week at And that made all the
sense in the world. Noll. He

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was still trying to have the best
players. Sure, but you know he

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did so much by not when he
often didn't. That's the whole thing.

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He but that's who he was,
dude. He he father Flanagan. He

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out he out coached guys a lot
r he uh he uh, That's who

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he was. He just he overcheered
with the guys he had. Well about

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even saying that with rich Rod,
right, because you know, rich Rod,

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how many times did is gonna have
the best players on the field when

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they beat Oklahoma State down here,
but they beat Oregon all they did ever?

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You know, you always thought he's
gonna out coach the other guy.

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Let me say this, and I'll
give you this example and again forgive me,

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but Sean Sean. How many times
does Sean have better athletes than the

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team? Pretty much every time I
go for Yeah, exactly, that's kind

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of my point. Yeah, no, that is, And that's a that's

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a really good point. Talent's important, but it's not. It's not everything.

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You've got great talent? Great?
What what did I bring this on?

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What were you talking about? What
we're talking about? Brock Purty,

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How he wasn't right, not necessarily
the most talented quarterback. But give me

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a winner, Give me a winner. He's a guy who went and did

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did for them what they wanted,
what they needed. Right, Well,

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look at look at the twenty fifteen
year, fourteen year, all those great

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players. Gordon Uh, shimmy,
uh, we gotta get hurt his foot.

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God, I don't want I can't
remember these names. McConnell, who's

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stuck in the NBA now, who's
still there? Yeah, Gordon McConnell.

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Yeah, the two guys who did
a really good, fantastic player, but

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he had a lot of flaws.
But of all those guys that you list,

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McConnell, really yeah, absolutely all
right? Um okay, uh.

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Speaking of some of these coaches,
Terry donahueh is gonna get a statue at

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the Rose Bowl. Really yeah?
He is the winning this football coach.

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If if not him, if not
him, who right? I would even

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I could even guess John Wooden put
him there too. He's got one putting

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him in the everyone put him outside
the football stadium over at the baseball stadium.

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But he's gonna get he's gonna get
a statue. They're gonna uh uh

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unveil it on October twenty seven at
the Rose Bowl. Uh and see a

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picture of where he said, again, I still remember. I still loved

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that game that Arizona beat him,
like forty two to three or something like

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that. When when Dick Tomy rolled
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Terry Donnihue saw it and he just
stared down Dick like I thought we were

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friends. We are not today,
not today today. And I love Terry

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Donnihue. He was, you know, he was. He seemed like one

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of the regular guys him in vermil
Yeah, also a friend of Tom.

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Yeah. But I remember that he'd
beat in Arizona at the Rose Bowl at

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Troy Aikman and all that stuffy Rose
Bowl. You know, Dick was running

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still running that h wish wish whish
wish shoot and all that kind of stuff.

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And somebody in the press in that
press comments after that game asked Terry

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Donnehue, would you ever run an
offense like that? And he said,

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I would never do that here because
then I would be out of a job.

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The fans would run me out.
And uh, that was right.

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I remember they Ben Griffith in Yea
and from New Mexico and those guys Billy

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Rukier I think it was, and
they Bobby Waters the quarterback from Smyear and

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all that stuff, and he just
said, he said, I would never

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run that because the fans would not
have it. That was a really interesting

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comment that he would have made at
that time. All right, umgame bo,

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you're gonna bring well, yeah,
we'll bring that up in a minute.

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But the big US, the US
Open, has starts day after tomorrow,

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and the odds to win the US
Open Scottie Scheffler at plus six fifty,

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John Ram who won the Masters at
plus nine hundred, then Brooks Keepka,

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who won the PGA and finished second
at the Masters, at plus twelve

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hundred, and then Rory McRoy fourteen, Patrick Henley at sixteen. So there

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you go, down. So I
don't follow that stuff, you know,

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I don't. I don't frustration,
So I just gotta got a text.

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We have took a couple of minutes
the next statue to be built at you

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of a is it kind of like
you know, he did well in recruity

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but not that well Mike Drea.
Yes, yeah, could have to.

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Right. If they were gonna do
one for Kendall, they already would have

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done one, right, true,
true, Um uh, they're not gonna

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do one for Dick because he didn't
I get there. But the game of

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Field, Game of Field and a
big poster out there, So yeah,

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I think I think mikeke Andre the
next guy the pulling over at Hill and

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brand. What they should do is
put it out in center field where the

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players have to run around it.
Like, Yeah, I heard a great

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story. Who was telling the story? Um, I think was Billy Crystal.

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I was telling the story that the
first time he went to Yankees Stadium.

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He's a huge Yankee, I grew
up and said the first time he

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went to Yankee Stadium and he saw
the monuments out there, and he thought,

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as a little kid, he thought
those guys were actually buried there,

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like the tomb. Yeah, they
thought those were their were their tombstone.

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And then he thought, God,
I can't are thinking to bury Mickey mantle

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out there. If you're a little
kid, right, that's what you're gonna

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think. Sure, right, Sure, that's pretty funny. I know I

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heard that story. Just what you
got? What else you got? Okay,

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so good. We'll talk about boomer
stuff after. Yeah, yeah,

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we got a big game boomer to
talk through the break, all right,

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So let's go take our break.
We'll be back and we'll think Kelly Pearce

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from FC Tucson Women, and then
we got a I think a fun big

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This is I Am the Ball with
Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome
back to you on the ball here a

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve
Robara, He's jakeaz Oss Now unfo,

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we have Kelly Pierce FC two stun
women soccer head coach, Kelly, how

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are you o? Very well?
Thanks for having me another year, another

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soccer season. What are your hopes? What are your dreams? Well,

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a little better than last season.
I think we've struggled a little bit with

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the women last season, so we're
looking for a little bit of redemption this

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season. So you've got you had
your first first match al Paso. It

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was last week. What did it
look like to you? You guys want

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seven to one, But what did
it? What did it look like to

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you? Be on the score?
I mean, it was excited to get

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that many goals, you know,
that was something we struggled with last season.

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So definitely a great start and a
lot of new faces and a lot

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of people scoring, not just relying
on one player. So that was nice

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to see. It was refreshing.
So so last year. And I teach

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you all the time all you do
is win. Last year, I think

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I even sent you a note how
did this happen? You didn't win it?

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But what did you learn from it? Because you know, when you

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win all the time, it's becomes
common. Well, I hope I never

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get that way. I'm always paranoia. I'm always looking at the opposite everything

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that could go wrong. Um,
you know, negative Nancy, I guess.

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But you know, I think last
year was a struggle for many reasons,

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and I think it was a learning
experience for a lot of us UM.

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But there's a lot of talent.
There's a lot of talented teams out

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there, and I think seq Sound
is somebody that everyone targets UM, so

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we are aware of that and hopefully
better prepared. The season did a lot

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of them come back for this year
as well from last year. Yeah,

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we always get a lot of returners
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the post college girls that you know, look forward to this all year.

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Um, a lot of them and
their maturity is awesome and brings a huge

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bonus to the team. And then
a lot of new faces as well.

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So it's a good lick. Yeah. So that's where I kind of wanted

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to go with it. If if
they were there last year, they understand

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the hate, the hurt and the
pain of not going to where they needed

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to go and wins or whatever.
So they know, they know and they

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know the expectations. Yes, absolutely, a lot of us. We joke

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that we have a little bit of
PTSD from a few games that we really

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should have finished on top and you
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the end. So, um,
we that's always in the back of our

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minds. Well, as you said, you know, you kind of take

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a look at you know, what
you did and what you got to fix.

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So when you think about that,
I mean, what were the things

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that you felt you needed to address
with the team for you know, to

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get ready for this year. Well, I think in the final third just

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executing and finishing putting the ball the
back of the net was the obvious one,

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but also just things that you don't
you know as a coach. On

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me, I didn't think of like
game management going over that. But then

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you got to remember, you have
a bunch of players coming from a bunch

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of different places with different experience,
so everyone looks at things differently. So

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just the game management and time management
in a game and just overall management with

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it, especially when we're at home, and how to finish. Is that

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like a not a not a new
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you review every after every game,
after every season, But was that kind

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of a new thing for you to
review after not winning it at all?

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Um? I think for this level
it was like we kind of go over

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that stuff with my high school girls, but um, at this level,

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just you know, I didn't think
I needed to, and I clearly you

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know I do, and that was
my job. So yeah, I'm definitely

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a learning experience from myself and my
coaching staff, and we all kind of

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looked back like, well, so
we've gone over it, and every player

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that was on the field or a
part of the team is well aware of

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it. Yeah, yeah, I'm
curious. Okay, so you've been doing

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this a while now, not a
whole lot with the FC two Sons,

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and you were a fantastic player at
every level. How has the game changed

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for you or maybe the girls and
the women now have they? Yeah,

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I think it's involved a lot.
I think there's more opportunity. They have

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more opportunities and experiences that like exactly
like FC two Son women you know,

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um, that didn't come along until
I had three kids and in my thirties,

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and now they have this opportunity.
So I think that's a huge part

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of it. And I also think
just how it evolved tactically on the field

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and positionally. I think it's just
grown a lot. You know, a

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couple of weeks ago, we were
on the radio and the host thought,

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you know, you just throws defenders
in the back when you don't want them

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to throw something up basically, and
for me, that's the complete opposite.

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Now defenders are quite skilled in a
huge part of the game. How much

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teaching do you do, uh,
you know, with your team, with

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this team, because this, I
mean this is developmental. You're trying to

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get these players to be better.
So how much teaching goes on versus I

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don't know if if there's a difference
between teaching and coaching, but you know,

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when you're trying to get them to
play a certain way or you know,

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just do something a little better than
they did before. I mean,

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how much of that goes on?
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this level. It's there's a broad
spectrum of levels and talent. We have

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some high school girls that are out
there training and that's more of the teaching

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and instructing and them just watching and
getting to have the opportunity to be out

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there with those experienced post players and
current college players. Again, I think

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it's a lot of just getting everyone
to respect the process and understand the process,

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and just getting everyone the cohesiveness I
guess, and everybody gelled together because

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we have so much coming and going. It's not just the same twenty girls.

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of thirty plus girls that it's coming

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and going. So it's more managing
on our ends. Um, you know,

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who's the right personnel per game?
Oh how hard is that to have,

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you know, differ different people all
all the time. It's super hard.

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The hardest part of it is not
knowing who's going to be there.

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I mean, injuries always happened,
but usually travel in the summer is a

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big thing, and so that's a
huge obstacle for us, as well as

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some girls just coming back from college. We have, you know, to

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some local Kay Conley who's just coming
back today actually to play Tomorrow's just graduated

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from college yesterday. So it's just
constantly trying to manage that group and what

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personnel is going to be there positionally. Yeah, so I guess it's a

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big weekend this weekend. I got
a text earlier from FC twos on the

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big game this weekend, tickets and
all that. Well you got tomorrow and

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Friday, right, Yeah, we
have tomorrow against Arsenal and that's the five

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dollars ticket day, um, and
then Friday we have Delsol and both are

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huge games. Delfo's always you know, a long time rival of ours,

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and then Arsenal as well. But
last year, you know, we struggled

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with them quite a bit, so
we're looking forward to having another opportunity,

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especially at home. Obviously, you
know, the wins and the losses are

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you know, you play to win
and that kind of thing. But well

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you know, what, what else
do you measure success by it? At

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this question, at this level,
with this with these players, honestly building

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the relationships I have with these girls
that have so many long term relationships.

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Some are you know, former teammates
of mine that I get the opportunity to

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coach now. And I think that
speaks on what we do at FC twos

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on and how we run things and
the fact that they all continue to come

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back, and I think that's a
huge asset to the program and overall,

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just like the relationships I think are
huge for me, the girls checking in

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with me throughout the year, not
just during season, but you know,

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throughout the year, sending me updates
as our colleges going on, or some

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are having babies, and just seeing
the overall success and them off the field

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is it's really cool to see.
I don't think I've ever asked you this

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question, but but I will because
I ask a lot of the coaches and

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Jay and Jay, here's me ask
this. You've you've found a lot of

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success and it doesn't happen by accident, But what do you think what do

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you think on yourself? Is the
secret sauce that you provide? Well?

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I don't know if I have the
answer. I think, Um, something

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that I do really try hard every
year, no matter what level I'm coaching,

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is to relate to the girls and
to connect with them, not just

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on the field, but off and
just being able to understand that you just

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can't treat everybody the same. You
can't coach everybody the same. Everybody responds

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to things differently. I look at
my own kids as an example, and

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they're all completely different and I know
that as I'm parenting. So it's kind

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of similar with coaching on the approach
you take with it. And I think

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that's something I've gotten better at and
will continue to grow hopefully with. But

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I think that's a huge thing is
just getting them to trust you and to

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respect you at all levels. Well, you know, these roles especially don't

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have to be here. We're not
we don't pay them. They are choosing

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to show up and missing work and
missing you know, opportunities of vacation and

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family, um, and they still
show up for us. So I think

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that's awesome. Well, you know, it's it's funny because that you talk

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about all that, because just you
know, last segments Steve and I were

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talking about you know what it takes
for a team to win, and it's

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not just having the best players,
right, You got to have a culture,

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you gotta have a coach, you
got to have all these little I

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don't call a little. All these
intangibles are things that you can't really see.

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And if one of those for you
is that you relating, you feel

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like by relating to your players that
you get more out of them. It's

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an interesting perspective from here. Yeah, I think that has definitely played a

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role for a lot of my success. I know, speaking from high school

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alone, I know a lot of
times we work you know technically player for

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player maybe the best you know team
on the field. But we believed it,

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and they trusted each other and believe
in the process and had that fight

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in them. I tried it and
still with everybody in same with this team.

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You know, we got scored on
last week embarrassing and that's in the

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first like fifteen seconds and that could
have turned spiral for us really poorly.

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And our girls responded, you know, they got the ball and bounced back

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and end up tying the game on
the road. Um you know, so

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that's again speaks for their their character, right, No, yeah, no

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question. Okay, if we could
go back to last year, because we

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did not talk to you after,
you want another title with South Point and

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I think you had struggled early and
then you found your way, is that

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right? Yeah? Um, latching
it a little bit. You know,

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we had a little you know,
a couple of the bumps along the way,

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But I think that's always good for
us, having a little adversity and

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some challenges and a little you know, humbling for them, just because you

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know, the target center back and
sometimes it's good to lose. So I

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00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.880
am a firm believer in that.
And we have that happened, and I

409
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think it always pays off in the
end. Well, and again you know

410
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.240
that we talk about this pretty much
every time, the number of championships that

411
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.720
out Point seems to win every year, particularly in the you know, in

412
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.200
the women's sports, you know,
softball and all the you know everything else.

413
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:08.960
I mean, you guys, you
keep having to hold up your end

414
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:15.519
of the your end of the show. I mean is that I don't want

415
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.640
to say it's pressure, but you
certainly have to feel like we really have

416
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.839
to do something good because everybody else
is doing well. Yeah, I mean

417
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.039
the competition gets better and better every
year, and the targets target gets bigger

418
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.240
and bigger every year, and we're
aware of that. So it starts from

419
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.480
the day tryout start. You know, I'm building that mindset for them and

420
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.720
getting them mentally tough. And you
know, every year is different in different

421
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.160
challenges, and again every team is
continuing to develop them. Bro, there's

422
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.359
a ton of good teams in town. It used to be mainly Phoenix,

423
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.359
you know, ten years ago,
and now it's Two Sons really the ones

424
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.519
dominating. If you look at the
last several years, how many teams from

425
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:55.279
Two Sons were actually in the playoffs
on all levels. So I'm obviously competitive.

426
00:28:55.319 --> 00:29:00.640
I don't like to lose, actually
hate it. So now that drives

427
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.720
me and pushes me to be successful
for the girls and to push and push

428
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.880
them to that level as well.
I think that's your secret sauce. If

429
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:14.759
it's not your If it's not your
secret sauce, it's would be that might

430
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.119
play a role a little competitive there, No, But that's what makes you

431
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:19.319
a winner. I mean, that's
what it makes everybody a winner. They

432
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:23.480
have to do something like have to
hate to lose, right, yeah,

433
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.599
yeah, Like I said. A
lot of the girls you know that that

434
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.680
have been We're trying to Laura and
Priscilla and you know, Kate and even

435
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.400
we had a little PTSD, like
I joked about earlier. But that's something

436
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.359
that you know, was a little
traumatizing for us. Um so a little

437
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.400
throat punsion. Hopefully that never happens
because knock on wood, but that's something

438
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.519
that does motivate us and drive us. Learning from one last thing again before

439
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.240
we let you go, tell us
your games again. And the ticket prices,

440
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yes, they are five dollars a
fives twenty cents today and you can

441
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.359
get that I'm online or even go
on Instagram and you can see it on

442
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:06.680
two some women. And then Friday, same thing at Keno Bowl Games,

443
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.279
seven o'clock and hopefully we'll finally see
you guys there. One of them last

444
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.640
year were bad. So'm still waiting. You know what, we're all guys.

445
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.799
We go to we go to bed
at like seven o'clock at night.

446
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.240
You know, we have our tapioca
right after the show and we hit the

447
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.559
sack. We'll do that. Well, okay, we'll promise, we'll see

448
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.599
You'll make a point. Good look
this weekend and we'll talk to you soon.

449
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.920
Good look, all right, thanks
Kelly, all right, thank you.

450
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.160
Here she does win and make us
look bad because we don't go.

451
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I'll have to put a little sunscreen
and get out there faut a little.

452
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.240
Well, we can moisturizer. All
right, you're such a baby. Okay,

453
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let's take our last break. We'll
take your calls five two zero,

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four, one, six, seventy
four, forty. We've got a fun

455
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big game boomer to talk about that
came up a little bit ago, which

456
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I think is actually kind of funny. He's the one that I liked that

457
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you go. He's just making this
stuff up as he goes along, but

458
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some of it makes sense. So
we'll be right back. If you're an

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here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen on
Steve Va. You're Jay Gonzalez and we

514
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have an eighteen minutes great a lot
of time for a couple of conversations here.

515
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.199
Yeah, you have one and I
have the last second one I thought

516
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.079
might be okay, cool? Well, really again, we love big we

517
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.360
love Big Game Boomer. He's been
on our show a couple of times.

518
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.760
You know, he does his rankings
and all that kind of stuff of positions

519
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.599
and stuff. But then he comes
with some offbeat stuff. And he came

520
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.519
up with one today that I thought
was really fun and really funny. College

521
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:28.679
fan bases that are exactly alike college
I thought, hold on, I thought,

522
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.360
there, whim do different one Top
one hundred best college football media personalities.

523
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.199
You saw that one. I didn't
see that one. Okay, so

524
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.800
go ahead. Fan bases that are
exactly alike. College fan bases that are

525
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.880
exactly like, like I'll give you, I'll give you like an obvious one,

526
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.880
right, Ohio State in Oklahoma.
Right, the fans are the same.

527
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.480
Okay, just okay, we should
win the national chail here. We're

528
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.719
all about the football. Yeah yeah, okay. Another one in Michigan and

529
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.320
Texas. Okay, right, I
mean you think about those fans and there

530
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.119
there's something Georgia and LSU Okay,
okay, So that that's some examples.

531
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:07.039
Um. Around the PAC twelve,
he had calin UCLA basically the same fans,

532
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.519
which sort of you know, like
they feel that should be good at

533
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.960
stuff, but they're really not.
They think they got high academics and that

534
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.199
should matter, but it's not winning
a mini games enigma because they don't give

535
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:24.400
a crap. Yeah, here's one
Miami, Miami, Miami Florida, and

536
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.000
Miami Florida. Would you compare them
too? In the PAC twelve you will

537
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.679
see Oregon Oregon. Okay, okay, yeah, flashy, yeah, you

538
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.760
know yeah, yeah ye, maybe
a little a little more style than the

539
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.679
substance sometimes. I like that,
right, I thought that was a good

540
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:46.079
one. They say that, no, you know, he just has it,

541
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.599
just has a chart. I said
that, okay, I said style

542
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.360
substance. Why that was good.
Here's what I had to think about this

543
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.159
one because it was like, I
don't see the comparison. But then I

544
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:04.400
thought about it. Alabama in Duke
basketball. Well, Alabama because they think

545
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.599
they have to put a birth right
to the national championship in football every year,

546
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.679
and Duke because they think they have
a birthright to the national championship in

547
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.239
I thought that made sense totally.
I initially didn't because I thought Duke sucks

548
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.599
at football, why would they compare
to it? But then again, they're

549
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.880
fans. It's about their fan bases
that the whole um. I thought this

550
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.440
was funny because I was looking for
ASCU all over the board. Issue in

551
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:34.719
Colorado as the same basically the same
fan base. I don't know, um

552
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.159
issue fan again, they think that
they should be good at everything, and

553
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:43.079
they're not good at the issue.
Yeah, and Colorado just kind of yeah,

554
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.599
you know everything, Yeah, I
think, so tell me that issue

555
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:52.079
your perception. Let's they just you
know, we're Phoenix, we're big,

556
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.079
we got we got seventy thousand students
that are at our university. We should

557
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.360
be offes experience. Give me an
experience that happened to me four or five

558
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.960
years ago. So covering the Arizona
football game down up there, UH a

559
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.440
issue party one. UH, we
do all the interviews, we go into

560
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.760
elevator and there's three issue student students
there in the radio covering the game.

561
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.280
Kevin to the elevator. They have
no idea. Who the heck? I

562
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:16.679
am right? So we're going down
it's late and they says, you know

563
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.920
what, I'm that I don't live
in Tucson. Stinks down there, And

564
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.519
I'm thinking, here's three little punk
kids, gotta be twenty one years old.

565
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:25.639
And I was going to get into
a conversation with them and say,

566
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.800
what gives you that idea? And
aren't you guys kind of getting out?

567
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.840
If I were an editor or somebody
who would hire you, I wouldn't hire

568
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.920
you just for hearing that. And
would you take the job if it was

569
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.840
in Tucson? I guarantee you,
Jake, they're taking a job in Tucson,

570
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.639
Arizona. And I'm thinking, who
the little punk's talking about? You're

571
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:51.320
right, you know? And talk
a little talk a little crap, and

572
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.280
then I would do you need a
job? Yeah? I would have let

573
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:58.559
him up. I seriously would have
led him up. All right, there's

574
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.880
another couple, Northwestern, Vanderbilt,
right, m okay, all right,

575
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:09.400
Yeah it's a good one. Okay. So um Indiana Kansas basketball, sucking

576
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.679
football, good at basketball. I
think they're God's gift in basketball, got

577
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.599
it? All right? Um?
All right? So oh TCU in Utah.

578
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.320
Right. I thought that was a
pretty good one. You know,

579
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.000
they've got pretty good. They've gotten
pretty good at football. You know,

580
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.519
they kind of new kids on the
block as far as that goes. Their

581
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.320
fan bases are kind of like,
yeah, he's done pretty good with this

582
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:36.000
one. Okay, all right,
who does he compare Arizona? Man,

583
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:43.280
this is tough when I tell you
what's gonna be obvious? Basketball? Kansas?

584
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.880
No, Kansas was it was Indiana? It could be too Kansas,

585
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:53.239
but you're close obvious, you're clothes
Texas? Could you already use Texas?

586
00:39:53.800 --> 00:40:00.719
Kansas? And Oklahoma? Who Oklahoma's
already starts with a K, Kentucky Kentucky

587
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.159
because of basketball? Yeah, they're
the same, yeah, right, football,

588
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:12.719
Their football is kind of basketball delusion. It's not the right word I'm

589
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:17.079
gonna use. But because look,
Kentucky's fantastic, obviously, but Kala Party

590
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:22.400
is taking it, really taking it
tough by the by the fan base.

591
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:23.599
Now, yeah, because they want
to get rid of him. But did

592
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:29.000
you see my out like forty million
millions and they're not as good as they

593
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.000
used to be, obviously, And
to me, I've always said this,

594
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.400
and he's the most overrated college coach
around all this talent. Yeah, nothing

595
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.920
to show for it or a little
to chaufeur, right, which is welcome.

596
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.559
You're right. It was at a
really good comparison, That's what I

597
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.119
saw that and that's why I said, we got to talk about this great,

598
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:52.199
great comparison. He did the pretty
good time with this, pretty sure

599
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.039
that we put that on the list. Yeah, well, well I'll mention

600
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:59.039
it in the when I post the
podcast. But I thought that was really

601
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:00.480
good. Okay, So we have
two men that anybody want to call,

602
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.880
please do. But I have a
question for you. I was just kind

603
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.440
of doing my reels on Facebook and
bubbaball and I saw George, couldn't you

604
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.519
asking a question talking about athletes?
Talking about athletes? And let me go

605
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.719
to the beginning and he says this
to a guy. He says, you

606
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.280
don't want kids love athletes. Why
do you love an athlete? Why do

607
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.280
you like athletes? You're asking me
that, Yeah, I'm asking you now,

608
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.679
why do you like athletes? Then
I'll ask you why do you love

609
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.679
sports? I don't particularly like athletes. I love sports, Okay. Why

610
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:34.079
do you love sports? Um?
Because I think there's drama and winning and

611
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.960
losing, and it's just fun to
compete. I'm a bit I'm a little

612
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.280
bit of a competitor. No,
no, yeah, I mean not personally.

613
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.239
I mean I haven't played a lot
of sports in my life, and

614
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:46.920
you know, in high school and
stuff like that. But I've always wanted

615
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.360
to win, right, That's that's
why you put juice on it, right

616
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:54.000
and right. And I love underdogs. Yeah, I love seeing underdog.

617
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.599
So I love seeing guys, you
know, achieved like that. So I

618
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:00.679
think that's part. And it's just
I love the you know, you put

619
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.119
a game on, you don't know
what's gonna happen. That's what I love

620
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.760
it. Okay, that's what And
he says, you don't why people love

621
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:12.079
athletes because they follow their dreams.
They get to do stuff that people don't

622
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.440
usually get to do. You know, they're talented. It is great.

623
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.800
That's why I thought it said.
They're probably right. I loved athletes because

624
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.679
god, they got to do.
When I was a kid, I love

625
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.440
Pete Rose and he used to do
things. Just a simple dude who worked

626
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.599
his butt off and ran fast and
get the ball. And you're thinking,

627
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.920
God, I wish I could be
like him. Yeah, And you know

628
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:31.320
as a kid I did. As
a kid, I did love athlete.

629
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.360
I did idolize. I don't know
if idolize the right word, but I

630
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.760
really there were athletes that I wanted
to be and that stopped when I was

631
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:42.599
about well no, no, okay, and then that's it and that was

632
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.599
it. Well and then at that
point I love teams. I love the

633
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.360
Dodge, Okay, I love the
wildcatskay m, dude, you kind of

634
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.119
grew out of it, right,
I grew out of or you realized you

635
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.079
were gonna be like like I'll say, I have never to this day.

636
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.840
I bought a player's jersey because it
was the player, right. I mean,

637
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.119
I don't even I take it back
one Johnny United, But that was

638
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.800
because I wanted a jersey to wear
at our Turkey Bowl that we have every

639
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.000
year. I thought, because everybody's
getting jersey, Okay, there's one jersey

640
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.119
that I'm gonna get. It's gonna
be Johnny United. That's a jersey that

641
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.599
I bought. But other than that, I never I've never bought an Arizona

642
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.880
jersey. I never wore an any
kind of any kind of a number of

643
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:30.119
an Arizona players, even on a
T Shirt's take this call higher on the

644
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.719
airnin on the ball. It's it's
crazy that that that you're talking about this.

645
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:42.360
Then you know some of us go
to therapy. Some of those people

646
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:49.280
needed and I suggested, but with
sport and and tough times in your life

647
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.880
and traumatic times in your life.
That's why I'm so enamored with the with

648
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:58.840
the Cowboys, because that particular time
in my life was was really a tough

649
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.320
time and one of the best eas
that I had at was Troy Aitman,

650
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:09.960
Emmet Smith, Michael Irving. And
then it rolled into the ninety seven UM

651
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:17.119
Wildcats team, and sometimes we draw
back to that kid, right to that

652
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.679
kid and that happiness, and then
it brings that and then it draws us

653
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.639
back to being kids again. As
much as the hustle and bustle and deadlines

654
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:32.599
and grinding out in seventy hour weeks. We still got the sport and that

655
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:38.360
we slid vicariously sometimes through that and
sometimes it's a little crazy and delusion of

656
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:45.719
wildcats cowboys, but it draws us
back to that that goodness that we had.

657
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.800
That that said, it's led us
down and gave us more mental issues

658
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:58.599
and anxiety as men. But I
found, you know, through therapy that

659
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:02.440
that's why you know, I'm a
big cowboy fan or a wildcamp fan,

660
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:08.400
that in those turbulent dark times,
those were the things that you know,

661
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:14.000
that were balanced for me, that
I could count on, that that were

662
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.079
there for me. Having Sarah get
fathers like like Dick Tomy and Jimmy Johnson

663
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.320
and stuff like that. You you
love the sport for it, I'm gonna

664
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:28.880
start to cry there. He even
day justice nobody can do with a man.

665
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.079
I was a brave fan so so, but but you know, with

666
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.239
baseball, you know, you grow
up and realize it's fairy tales in Santa

667
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.199
Claus and it's not real. So, Mike, how old are you?

668
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.920
I am forty, so you were
fourteen at the time, about fourteen at

669
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.559
the time when all this stuff was
going on fourteen fifteen, yeads all middle

670
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:52.760
school like eleven to fourteen, man, like yeah, end of elementary when

671
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.960
it's going into high school. Man, it was. It was crazy.

672
00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:00.559
But you know what I mean,
I got sports and I I wish I

673
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.519
could transfer that going to my kid
and they could understand. But you know,

674
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.320
the cowboys, he might not be
a kid by the time that happened.

675
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.400
But let me say this to you, bring up again, you bring

676
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.719
up, You bring up a great
point, Mike, Mike, you bring

677
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.239
up a great point. And let
me say this, because Jay and I

678
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.559
are old school. We listen to
old school music. And one of the

679
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.079
reasons I like it is because it
brings us to our childhood, the great

680
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.159
times of our lives. But what
it was, we weren't paying bills,

681
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.639
we weren't chasing the rainbower, but
we were just living. Is that kind

682
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.599
of the same thing where you listen
to that, to the Commodorees or to

683
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.639
the birth wind and fire you thank
god, I was only twelve and I

684
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.679
love that music. Here, Oh
no, it could even be like the

685
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.760
beginning of a song that even as
in the soundtrack of a movie. It'll

686
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:51.199
make you. It's the nostalgia is
crazy, and it's crazy the fantasy world

687
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:55.440
we could tap into, or the
time machine we could tap into just by

688
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.199
listening to something, watching something like
you tube is a is a crazy,

689
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.639
uh time capsule sometimes with with some
things like I could let my YouTube run

690
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.280
and it's all related and it reminds
me of a time and a place and

691
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.320
when actually things were good. It's
not like things are good now, but

692
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.800
uh, at a turbulent time was
that was the only thing good. You

693
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.079
guys are part of that. Though, Bear down, all right, we'll

694
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:23.639
help you take them. We'll take
your co paid. We'll take your co

695
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:29.119
paid right now. Hope you take
your insurance. That's look, man,

696
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.920
Mike went deep right there. It
was good. But it was very good

697
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.000
because he makes a lot of sense
because you know, as he was talking,

698
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.519
I was saying, Okay, what
were the things that mattered to me

699
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.079
when I was twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old? And I will say

700
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:44.920
even though like I don't go out
and buy players jerseys all my time through

701
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:52.239
blame ball though you know, um
what my numbers on my uniforms literally whatever

702
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.119
those I got numbers based on somebody, right, like I uh in a

703
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.719
in a I played uh. When
I was a teenager, I played on

704
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.159
baseball team, and I wore Davey
Lopes. No, I knew I was

705
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.199
gonna play second base. He was
fifteen. I knew I was gonna play

706
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.559
second base. So I said,
I'm gonna wear Davey Lopes number. Another

707
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.119
year, I was a catcher,
right, I knew I was gonna be

708
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.079
a catcher, so I wore Steve
Yeager's number again, wore number seven,

709
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.599
you know, for the Dodgers in
the in the in the mid eighties,

710
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.960
and you know things like that.
Um, you know, I I you

711
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:27.000
know, for some reason, I
loved number twenty two. And I don't

712
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.079
even know why I loved number twenty
two. Yea, I don't know what

713
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.880
I did. And then for some
and somewhere along the line, six became

714
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.679
a favorite number. I think because
of Steve Garvey right as a manager,

715
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.719
not a manager, as a coach
at the at Saint Gregory. I'm now,

716
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.559
I'm in my fifties, and we
got new we got new uniforms,

717
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.519
and I took a number six.
It's been painful, you and you and

718
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:52.599
Miguel, Oh my Sonson will never
see thee we won the World Series just

719
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.119
a few years. Oh yeah,
but that'll be another thirty three years.

720
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.360
But I thought that was a good
topic because people fall in love sport for

721
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.440
different reasons. Yeah, for whatever. You know, when you asked that

722
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.679
question, the answer for me,
it wasn't easy, right, I'm not

723
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.480
really sure. It's just I've always
been interested in sports, from listening to

724
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:15.599
the Dodgers and wanting listening to him
on the radio every day and rooting for

725
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:21.159
them to win, right, Winning
always felt better than losing. Yeah,

726
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.559
And so I think without question.
And then I started playing Little League baseball

727
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.000
when I was eight because I was
young. At that time, that was

728
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:31.039
the youngest you could play. And
so now I'm playing baseball when I love

729
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.159
baseball already. And then you know, look, here's the thing. And

730
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:37.880
Kelly Kelly, we talked about her
with the Secret Sauce blah blah blah,

731
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.480
and I know she's intense and it
she's very good at what she does,

732
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:46.000
but it's funny and invariably good coaches
say this, the pain of losing hurts

733
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:51.400
more than the doing of joy of
winning. And sometimes you just don't want

734
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.400
to play because you could lose and
the pain is unbearable. Yeah, you'll

735
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.199
ask me, if you'll ask me, think about an Arizona game, gonna

736
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:01.960
go to defeat and I'm gonna go
You're gonna go to a defeat. Think

737
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:05.559
about the game. But it has
me to think about the game that sort

738
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.320
of matters most to me, that
was most important in any sport. And

739
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.599
I'm gonna go to a loss.
I'm gonna go to a loss that costs

740
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.880
Arizona a roseball. Did you remember
go to that loss to UCLA in nineteen

741
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:22.039
ninety eight. I'm gonna go to
that loss to cal in in nineteen ninety

742
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.599
three. Those are the two the
first games that come to mind when I

743
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.679
think of Arizona games that had the
most impact on me. I was at

744
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.719
the national championship in basketball. I
was there, But yet that's not the

745
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.960
first thing on my mind when I
think about an Arizona game. That everybody

746
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.920
has a different trigger. But but
I agree with you. You remember the

747
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.599
losses more than you do the victories. Yeah, and it goes to the

748
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.280
point of why do we watch sports
because you want to win because it feels

749
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.960
so good, But there's something a
little about you that says, you know,

750
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.239
the losses matter more like you said, Yeah, they're just more painful.

751
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.960
I remember in ninety nine, ninety
nine, Uh, well in ninety

752
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.800
eight they lose, they lose to
Utah. Right, it's a devastating thing.

753
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.559
And you go to every locker room
and you've been there, They say,

754
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:07.920
what do you remember? And I
was this as well. You remember

755
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.760
seeing the other guys celebrate there.
It's not gonna happen to us the next

756
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.039
year. Well, it always happens
to the next year. You just you

757
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:19.519
can't avoid it. Pretty much,
unless you're very fortunate to win two in

758
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.639
a row or whatever. It's almost
unavoidable. Yeah, pretty much, it's

759
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:29.079
always happen. It is. It
is, and especially if you're a I

760
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.199
mean, look, if when you're
an a on, you just think when

761
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.480
the big game comes out, right, the game that you have to win.

762
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:38.440
I hate to say this, but
I'm gonna say it. If you're

763
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:42.519
an atoning fing, you expect to
lose, and if you win, oh,

764
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:44.800
it's like awesome, it's great.
It's a surprise. I'll give you

765
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:46.880
one, but you expect I'll give
you one. Duke in twenty eleven,

766
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.639
Yeah, you go to you go
to the West Tournament. Right in Western

767
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.760
Tournament, Duke is very good.
You're thinking, okay, we're here,

768
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:58.719
and then you and then you're like, are go out nine? Yeah,

769
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.400
but then you lose to Yukon and
you're thinking it just happened. Yeah,

770
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.559
somebody, you know, somebody posted
that Jamal Horn three point on Twitter the

771
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.480
other did I watched that over he
would never have to buy a drink again,

772
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.360
but now no one even knows where
he's over and over and over again.

773
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.760
Yeah, and you go, man, you know, but again,

774
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.639
you know, I think about that
happy lost to UCLA in nineteen ninety eight.

775
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.679
You know, one bad quarter of
football in Arizona would have could have

776
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.280
been a national champion that year.
Yeah. Well, imagine you're talking about

777
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.880
Jamal Horne missing that shot. I
remember Johnson Hid missing the shot against Wisconsin

778
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.679
and the trajectory of the shun Miller
era. Yeah, that would have changed

779
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:39.280
changed everything. It would have changed
everything. He'd still be here, it's

780
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:46.480
still oh h oh yeah, and
it'd be more painful covering him because man,

781
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.199
yeah, you might be right now, but you know it is what

782
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.920
it is. Yeah, things happened
for a reason. Might be right,

783
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.719
all right, that was fun.
It was a big, big quick da

784
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:59.840
quick. Kelly Pierce, Jenny Dalton
Hill had some fun conversation there. Yeah,

785
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.960
Kelly's Kelly's got wisdom beyond her years. Yeah, both of them,

786
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.440
both of them. A good day
with the women. I thought I didn't

787
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.000
realize she had a bunch of kids. I thought Jack Donald was very insightful.

788
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:14.880
Yeah, well, she have a
really good perspective. We're talking perspective

789
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:16.800
from one of the top players,
not only in theirs, one of the

790
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:21.960
top history of sopball. Very fun. Correct. We'll be back tomorrow for

791
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:23.920
more of this, so I'll be
sure to come around listen to the podcast,

792
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:30.639
and uh we'll be back to me
day. Thirty thousand people in here

793
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:31.199
and all me some people