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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
by fan Tracks, your source of information

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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off to step

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on say lots. Here's your hosts, Jesse sup Here and Victor Nuno.

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Fantasy Hockey Live back once again,
and boy are we fired up? I

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am Jesse Severe fan Tracks, and
across the glass it is Victor Nuno of

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Dauber Prospect. Victor, how are
you doing. I'm doing awesome, Jesse.

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I'm ready for us to hit our
mid season stride. Here with these

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team previews, it's like my one
of my favorite times of the year.

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So I know it's a little early
for some, but we we don't do

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the math. Takes a long time
to get them all in and we are

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nothing if not complete, right darn
right? Yeah, if you don't know

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what we mean. This is the
first of our thirty two episode series previewing

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the two twenty three twenty four teams, and boy are we excited by it.

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It's gonna take a long time.
Some of you are feeling like it's

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the peak of the season. It's
postseason. It's after the season. For

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Victor and I. This is opening
day in a sense because our previous start

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today and we've got a wonderful format. We're bringing on, just as we

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did last year, amazing guests to
talk about the individual teams, experts on

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the teams. Then we're going to
go to we're going to go to a

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brand new segment that nobody has heard. It is Cat's Instincts. Cat Silverman,

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who we've had on the show,
well known goalie Guru is going to

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come on and do some breakdowns of
some of the prospect goalies. And then

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of course the traditional the wonderful Dynasty
dig I got to break out that music

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again. I love that intro to
the Dynasty dig It just warms my heart.

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So it's gonna be a great,
great season. And that's not all

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we have these episodes, Victor,
But not only that, but we have

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other things that patrons can enjoy,
particularly or the Patreon. We should really

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mention now what kind of things are
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Yeah, for sure, we have
so many good things that through the Patreon.

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You gotta check it out, see
which tier might fit for you.

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If you like to show, if
you enjoy it, you want to support

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it. We certainly have patron casts
that are sometimes topic related sometimes Ama.

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We also have roster doctor availability.
We will help you break down your team.

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Lots of extra perks too, like
going over how to use evolving hockey,

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how to use different tools that we
have. Some of the people who

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are recently requesting. On the Sellary
Cap show, I was talking about how

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I break down and project rosters dollar
value per dollar. We'll make a video

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for that. And of course we
have our rank sheets where we have all

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of the teams and all the players
rank by for defenseman, goalie and who

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the who. The top ones are
under one hundred games for skaters, under

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fifty games for goalies, so that's
all out there. We also have organizational

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ranks and team ranks. You can
get hits, blocks and shot upside based

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on their tiers with this, which
is a really hard thing to be able

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to find. And new this year, there's always new upgrades and improvements we're

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doing. Jesse so great with spreadsheets. He really does a lot of work

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with this. And one thing we're
doing this year in our tears and ranks

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is we're gonna be not only talking
about you know, points and banger upside,

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but also salary Cap, which which
contracts are actually good for salary cap

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leads and which players are maybe not
worth their value, So we'll be tiering

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those as we go along too.
So so much goodness. Check it out

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at patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey
Life. For sure, you are going

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to want to check those things out
into Patreon if you are so inclined,

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If you're non acliner, you just
kind of want to dip a toe in

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see what it's like hanging out with
us, hanging out with a lot of

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the listeners who are into Dynasty fantasy
hockey particular, hit us up and join

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our discord Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail
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Victor Nuno twelve as Victor. Basically, just ask one of us and we'll

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give you an invite to the free
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People are forming the leagues right now, because fantracks, you can form

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them all the way. Today people
are talking about the Stanley Cup playoffs,

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people are talking about offseason Dynasty trades, about their keeper decisions, and of

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course about free agency and everything else
coming up. And of course the draft

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lottery is about to happen. After
this episode is released. So Victor,

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it's wonderful times, it's exciting times
to talk about fantasy hockey, and we're

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gonna do it today with a man
named Ben Pope of the Chicago Suntimes.

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Today. Episode one is the Chicago
black Home. Right after this, we

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are welcoming to the show, first
time guest, but a excellent writer on

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the Chicago Blackhawks. It's Ben Pope
of the Chicago Sun Times. Ben,

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how are you doing today? I'm
great, Thanks for having me on.

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Well, we love having you here. We want to talk some Blackhawks.

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Unfortunately, we tend to do this
series in order of finish, and the

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bad news for the Blackhawks is we're
starting with you, so like reverse order,

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it didn't go well. If you
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on the ice last year, probably
not a great situation. And I'll rattle

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off a couple of stats here in
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the point in some ways, and
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and they might not even be at
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You know, there were one point
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And it's funny they could have had
the best odds in the lottery,

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but the second to last game of
the season, they knocked out the Pittsburgh

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Penguins by beating them with full two
point win, which let the Florida Panthers

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in, thus indirectly ruining the Boston
Bruins. So congratulations on the black Hawks

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for destroying the Boston Bruins. Incredible
season this year indirectly anyway, on the

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black Hawks, nobody managed fifty points. Unfortunately on this team, Andrea Satanasio

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was the top surviving points guy by
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on the team with forty. Of
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have reached that mark quite easily had
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had the fewest team goals, the
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one percent, the fourth worst shooting
on the shots that they took. The

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captain, Jonathan Tays retired the last
night of the season. The last ties

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to those cup years are gone,
but the Hawks are doing it correctly.

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They made a lot of trades.
They netted something like seven additional net draft

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picks over the next three years.
They have a top lottery pick today is

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Sunday, Tomorrow's the lottery. By
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for the Chicago Blackhawks. We don't
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a palette cleanse or a disappointment for
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have more reasons for optimism as soon
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mean, certainly, the expectations were
very low, and they pretty much we're

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right on those expectations. Honestly,
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have been exceeding expectations in terms of
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management would have liked to see that
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were expected to be bad, and
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of a surprise there. Certainly.
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some bright spots. I think Luke
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season as coach and indicated that he
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turn to leave this turnaround when he
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And there were some individual player bright
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team standpoint, yeah, it was
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their statistical finishes were in the bottom
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much every offensive and defensive stat special
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still in the bottom third of the
league. So yeah, it was not

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too surprising to see so much so
much losing this year, But that was

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kind of the point to try to
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reset the roster. And I think
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better in terms of unised performance,
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terms they'll have more prospects starting to
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guys where even if the team isn't
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individually succeed and build some hope for
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going to be at least a couple
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standings wise, but this probably was
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terms of relevance at least. Yeah, for sure. And there's there's such

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a different team now from the beginning. You know, last year in the

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team preview, I was when I
was going over everything we had obviously kine

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to brink it. Strome Taves,
Doc GOUBA League. All of those guys

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are gone. So when we talk
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I guess we're gonna have to start
with Lucas Rachael because there aren't really

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a whole lot of other options,
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Opening Night happens in October, but
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He certainly is looks like a new
maybe corner stone or the franchise, or

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at least a pretty decent player.
Maybe we shouldn't annoint him with that tag

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quite yet, but the seventeenth overall
pick from twenty twenty. Basically, he's

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been a point per game or better
player in the HL the last two seasons.

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We got to see him with some
NHL action at the end of last

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season and also this season. He
put up fifteen points in twenty three games,

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which was the highest point pace if
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actual points, but point pace,
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You look at some of his underlying
metrics and of course some of the

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expected goals and of course he against
don't look great, but the whole team

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was not great. He did show
some offense and show a lot of speed

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and skills. So what do you
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next season where he looks like he'll
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So do you think he'll end up
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And what do you think his ceiling
is? Yeah, the black Hawks have

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been really patient with him the past
couple of years. He was probably ready

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to come up into the NHL a
lot sooner than he did, but they

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had just given him a few little
brief stints before. Finally, after the

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trade deadline, after they'd moved Patrick
Kane, they decided to call him up

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for good and put him in that
role in the first line. And I

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mean, yeah, he looked every
bit the part. He was definitely the

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team, one of their top two
at least offensive players down the stretch.

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His ability to enter the zone is
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But he also has great vision once
in the zone. He's a good

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shot, a good passer, has
good instincts of where to go. He's

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not the biggest guy for sure.
The Hawks have been working with him to

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bulk up some more, get some
more muscles, so that he can get

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to the net front a little bit
better, win some more puck battles.

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But when he has open space,
he's definitely one of the top players that

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they have at the moment and knowing
going to get better. So yeah,

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I mean, it depends on depends
on the lottery. I think if the

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darter Fantilly, he probably won't be
the most anticipated guy going into next year.

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But barring that, he absolutely will
be. He definitely has anough side

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to be maybe not immediately, but
at some point in his career a sixty

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seventy point guy. I would think
we'll see what he can do next years.

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Only if he continues on the pace
that he produced at this year,

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he might not be even farved from
that next year, but we'll see what

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happens with that. He could benefit
FIRS serve from getting some better linemates as

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well. He was mainly playing with
Andrea s FMC when Philip Kurzev, who

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are decent players but certainly not exactly
first line talent on a good team,

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So to have a little bit better
supporting cast could also help him with some

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of those underlying numbers where he could
get a little bit more help defensively,

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But yeah, I think expectations are
really high for him. He's he's definitely

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developed as hope and next year is
probably going to be his real breakout.

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Taylor Radish, Yes, we were
already to the Tiler Radish portion of this

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kind of this podcast is our second
guy up. He's not a guy Victor

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and I rank coming into the season, but he really had a pretty respectable

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year to the point where Victor and
I think, I think he's going to

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be a fringe contributor, a Tier
three type guy next year. One of

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three Hawks traded there from Tampa.
He's a late bloomer for sure. He

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thrived following the twenty sixteen on the
Erie Otters with future black Hawk teammates Alex

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to bring it in Dylan Strom.
Then he labored three years in h L

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Syracuse in the Tampa system before breaking
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two. For that that runner up
finished against Colorado. It's a pleasant story

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for the twenty five year old to
rise to the top of an NHL depth

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chart. But is Radish going to
keep a big role on this rebuilding team

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and could he cracks say the fifty
point mark this year. Again, it

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does depend a lot on what happens
this offseason, because I think if they

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do get the Darter Fantilly, they're
probably going to be a bit more aggressive

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bringing back bringing in some free agents
to give them a little bit of top

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six support. But I think it's
it's pretty likely that Radish will have a

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top six role next year. He
was pretty much a maiden stay on the

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second line this year with Jonathan Tabs
when he was healthy and Tyler Johnson that

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was his most frequent linemates. And
I think we went into the year realizing

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that even on a pretty terrible team, somebody was going to have to score

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some goals, just because that's the
way hockey works, and it ended up

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being Radish that was kind of one
of those guys that ended up scoring some

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goals. So yeah, he certainly
had a pretty pretty good year for him

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individually. Took a step forward um
maybe a little bit unexpectedly, and I

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think, yeah, for sure,
he could be kind of a fringe fantasy

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relevant guy next year barring a big
change in role. He has a good

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shot, he can get to the
net, He's a decent tipper of pucks.

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He's not going to be, you
know, a game breaker in any

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regard. But um, he certainly
has some decent offensive skills, and on

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this team where there's a bit of
avoid of that that they appreciate that.

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Um, he's probably a bit more
physical than than realized too. I think

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he was one of the better forwards
in terms of hits and us. He's

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not afraid to mix it up a
little bit along the wall. He has

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a pretty solid frame, I would
say. So, Yeah, he's definitely

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once a more pleasant surprise this year, and he's still on the younger side

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of things, even though as you
mentioned, he was kind of a late

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bloomer in terms of the normal career
trajectory, so I would expect him to

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still have a significant role next year
as well. Yeah, for sure,

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he did have a hit per game
last year. He got close to two

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shots a game half a block,
so there are some good physical stats considering

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the guy played sixteen or a half
minutes per game. But yeah, good,

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good for him, Good for Taylor
Radish finally breaking in after several years

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of trying to get to that level
in Tampa was not the easiest lineup to

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break into, so Anders Bjork the
twenty six year old who apparently was born

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a few miles from the Fantasy Hockey
Light studios here in Wisconsin. He didn't

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know that sounds like he shouldn't have
been born in the US with the name

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Anders York, But sure enough.
He spent much of the season buried in

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the Buffalo Sabers minor system before getting
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end of the year. Put up
eight points in thirteen games. Presumably will

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be an affordable RFA this summer.
Not somebody's gonna be in line for a

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huge rays. I don't know.
Could this guy hang on and maintain a

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middle six role next year? Yeah, well, I don't think it's a

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guarantee that he's resigned, but I
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Like you mentioned, he won't be
expensive whatsoever. He did show well,

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and his stint at the end of
the year kind of unfortunate. He

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missed some time with an injury right
after he was acquired, which kind of

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limited the sample size he was able
to put up. But when he was

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healthy he did look good. He
would look like a kind of a nice

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find, considering they caught him for
literally future considerations because Buffalo just wanted to

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give him as a fresh chance somewhere, So yeah, I think he showed

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well. He clearly loves playing in
Chicago. As you mentioned, he's Alwaukee

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native, he went to Notre Dame, he has a ton of family in

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the area. He seemed genuinely just
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So I'm sure he would love to
come back, And I think he showed

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well enough that he probably will get
another contract. If they don't have such

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a gutted lineup next year, it
might be a little bit harder for him

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to get a second or third line
role, but you never know. I

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mean, he could end up being
a radish kind of guy where maybe he

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comes in not really sure what he'll
be, and he ends up carving out

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that kind of middle six role and
score some of the goals that somebody's going

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to have to score. So we'll
see on him. There's probably a wide

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range of outcomes from this point,
but if he manages to keep up what

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he did in March, he definitely
could be a little bit intriguing. Tyler

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Johnson another of those Tampa refugees in
twenty fourteen fifteen. This is a guy

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who put up seventy two points in
seventy seven regular season games at twenty three

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and twenty six playoff games that was
peaked Tyler Johnson. His teammates that came

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up with that same corps have kind
of gone on without him. Tampa's had

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to make some pretty ruthless cuts in
their salary, and Tyler Johnson was not

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somebody who could hang on there.
So it's been a long time since he

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produced at that raid. He's chlora
closer to half point per game in the

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last few years from Tampa into Chicago, and his twelve goals twenty assists for

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thirty two points in fifty six games
this year was pretty good. Actually,

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two point zero seven points per sixty
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So Tyler Johnson individually when he was
in there had had a decent role

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in decent production. I guess my
question is is this a guy who again

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we keep saying dependent on free agents
because this team could change so much in

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July. Could this guy have a
top six scoring role just by being that

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veteran presence next year? Yeah,
for sure. I mean he's also been

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pretty consistently in a top six role
when he's been healthy. The past two

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years, staying healthy has definitely been
a problem him. For Tyler Johnson,

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he missed a bunch of time after
having a neck injury and ended up getting

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ady our surgery last season, the
same thing that Jack Eichel did, which

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was a really interesting story actually to
talk to him about, but certainly not

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great um from an non ice perspective. UM. He's also missed some time

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with a variety of other injuries this
past season. Finally, the second half

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he managed to stay pretty consistently in
the lineup for the first time in two

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years, so that was good to
see. He is definitely on the older

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side as well, so UM,
perhaps not super surprising that maybe he's suffering

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from a little wear and tear at
this point. But when he's been healthy,

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he has been a solid contributor.
He can, he has some good

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offensive instincts. He's he's a very
smart player. Not the biggest guy,

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maybe not the most talented guy.
He was undrafted way back when when he

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came into the league, but he's
always been able to kind of just know

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where to be in the right play
it's at the right time, and just

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to rely on his hockey instincts and
intelligence to be a successful player, So

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if he can stay healthy, he
could absolutely continue to be that. Next

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year, he's probably going to become
an alternate captain with Tay's and Kine moving

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on, as probably the most experienced
forward they have left at this point,

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and he is a good leader in
the locker room, a well liked guy.

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I'm definitely great to talk to from
a media perspective, So I'm not

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sure if that's stup as fantasy relevant, but he definitely has a role on

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this team and will continue to to
have one no matter what ends up happening

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this summer. Well, your alternate
captains tend not to get scratched anyway,

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so that's a that's a good thing
if he gets a role like that and

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can stand the ice. And I
guess beyond that, I mean this forward,

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this forward group for the people coming
back next year or is. It's

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pretty rough, but I would throw
it open for anybody else. And the

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one guy who I think you have
brought up, Philip Kurushev. He played

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a preponderance of the season for the
third straight year now. From our fantasy

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perspective, he's not been much of
a score, So he's not a guy

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who's been a whole lot on the
radar. He averaged a point every three

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games fairly consistently over this career,
half a point, half a block getting

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slightly bigger role by the end of
the year. Could Philip Krishev be a

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guy who is getting an increased role
in the future of the Chicago Blackhawks.

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Ban Yeah. Talking to Kyle Davidson
the GM after the season, I was

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a little bit surprised to hear how
happy he was with Karishev's season. To

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him, I think he said that
he went into the year not really sure

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what kind of player Karishev was going
to end up being, and left the

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year really confident that he is going
to be a solid NHL contributor moving forward,

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which was a pretty big, pretty
big praise coming from Davidson. You're

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right to Statistically, this season was
pretty much the exact same as his first

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two seasons. He's been pretty much
the exact same guy statistically all three years.

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But it sounds like internally the team
really believes he can take a step

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forward moving forward. He's in RFA
this summer, but it sounds like he

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absolutely will be brought back, probably
on a multi year contract, and he's

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still on the younger side. I
mean, he came into the league fairly

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young, so I think he's only
twenty four or so right now, so

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it sounds like they're kind of penciling
him in for a bigger role. He

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definitely but played on the first line
a lot down the stretch when they really

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had so few forwards available. He
and Riitkol have a good bond because they

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both speak German, and I know
that that the Hawks were using Kurashev a

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lot to kind of help him acclimate
into the locker room and everything, so

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and they become close friends. So
I think with Rachel's upside and the fact

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that they probably want to keep Kurashev
playing with him a lot of the time,

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that could also help Kureshev from a
production standpoint, So certainly someone to

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keep an eye on. I think
obviously he hasn't shown a lot of potential

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statistically to grow, but perhaps that
finally could come next year in his fourth

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seasons. So we'll see how that
ends up playing out. But he's definitely

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some of the team has high helps
for that's great stuff with the with the

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language, and the bonding there.
Let's let's move over to the blue line

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now, where we don't We didn't
have a whole lot of data on this

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and some of the fours because most
of the ones Jesse and I ranked last

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year are gone. But in the
preseason we ranked Seth Jones me twenty third,

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Jesse eleventh. He finished twenty ninth, and Seth Jones is the only

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player on this team that he and
I have faith it can be a top

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tier fantasy producer. And so he's
the only Blackhawk under contract beyond twenty twenty

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six. If you look at their
cap friendly page, it is it is

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gonna change a lot in the next
few years, and I think that was

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kind of the point. And even
though this team wasn't wasn't great, Jones

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put up pretty decent numbers. His
forty two point pace, I'm sure was

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a little disappointing compared to the first
season in Chicago, where he had fifty

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four point pace. He actually got
pretty unlucky though His shooting percentage was a

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touch high, but his PDO was
low, and his expected goals per sixty

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far outpaced his actual goals for per
sixty, So give him a few more

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secondary exists and maybe another goal or
two and his numbers look a lot better.

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Plus the fact that he could keep
his head above water defensively and actually

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drive play as a net positive on
such a weak team was says a lot

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about him. So he actually,
I think probably did quite well, but

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in terms for fantasy gms probably underwhelmed
their expectations just because of all the noise

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around him. So the big question
is what do we expect from Seth Jones

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moving in the next year? Ben, do you think he could get back

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to that fifty ish point pace.
He still continues to put up monster hits

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and block numbers, and the shots
are pretty good. I don't think those

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are going to change, So it
really depends on the point pace. What

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do you think he has in store
for us next season? Yeah? I

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agree. He probably could have had
some more points this season than the it

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up with. He was a little
bit unlucky shooting wise, particularly on the

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power play. The Hawks had an
outrageous streak of not scoring a powerplay goal

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by a defenseman that lasted the entirety
of his first season and a half on

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the team. Just kind of ridiculous, And finally they broke that in around

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New Year's but I think definitely in
the power play he's probably due to get

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a little bit more production there.
His partner is going to change for sure

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next year. He was with Jake
McCabe a lot of this year and really

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that did that did help him out. Those two were united and early December

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and Seth Jones really play really improved
after that point. Obviously, McCabe was

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dealt to Toronto at the deadline and
then he had kind of a rotating cast

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of partners down the stretch. Next
year, I think it's almost absolutely going

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to be one of the two top
defensive prospects the Hawks have moving up into

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the NHL, either alex of Blastic
or Kevin Korchinsky. If it's Korchinsky,

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that would be great news from a
fantasy perspective for Jones because he is a

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very complete offensive defenseman. Seventh overall
pick last year has really dominated the WHL.

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He's the top prospect in the system. He's probably going to come in

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and put up quite a few points
already as a rookie, So if he's

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with Jones, that would certainly help
Jones out. Lastic is a bit more

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of a defensive guy, but he
can skate well for his six six size,

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so maybe that would free up Jones
to be a little bit more aggressive

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offensively, with Lastic backing him up, kind of the way McCabe did this

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past season. Really, though,
not too much is going to change for

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Jones. I don't think other than
the maybe his linemate and his luck.

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He is locked in on this long
term contract for better or worse, and

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he is the number one defenseman is
going to continue to be for a long

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time. So pretty much you know
what you're going to get with him.

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He is the one constant on this
team moving forward. He could be the

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captain. We'll see what ends up
happening with that. But yeah, I

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don't think anything that's going to change
too drastically with his situation. Oh,

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I didn't know you were going to
talk Kurtynsky that. That's pretty exciting.

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He's definitely on the top prospects.
I'm curious about that, because, yeah,

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we were going to talk about him
later. I didn't really I don't.

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I mean, obviously he is tearing
up the WHL, but I guess

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it certainly depends on what happens in
camp whether he can actually make the team.

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That is a there's a pretty big
jump. But if you're saying that

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there's a good chance of that's that's
pretty exciting. And him being a lefty

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and Jones being a variety that might
seem like a pretty obvious pair. You

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think that's somewhat possible. Yeah,
I think definitely. I mean, yeah,

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it's no guarantee he makes the team, but at this point I would

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say it seems fairly likely just based
on how well he's played in the WHL

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this year. I'm not sure he
has much more to gain at that level

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and just how high the Hawks are
on him in general. We'll see what

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happens as summer. We'll see in
camp he's he's going to have to earn

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a spot, but it seems like
he probably will be able to earn a

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spot, And if he does,
I think they would be very inclined to

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put him with Jones to to just
help out his development by having the best

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possible partner and someone that he can
learn from and gain confidence from and can

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mentor him. I think that would
be a very very likely situation for him

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if he does move into the NHL. It's not like this is a team

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where they're gonna want to protect themselves
by having their rookie play in the third

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pair. I mean they're they're not
caring too much about the results. They

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just want those guys to develop.
So they would have no reservations at all

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putting him on the first pair with
their best defensemen and letting them got to

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figure it out in the fly,
because that's just what's going to be best

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for him long term, even if
it's going to create some short term struggles.

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So he's definitely a very intriguing,
very intriguing guy. I mean,

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he's he's look amazing since being drafted. I think it's stock as only Risen

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from last year. He's a guy
where the expectations are really through the roof.

408
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Will he meet those immediately maybe not, But I think at some point

409
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down the line he's going to be
a top offensive defenseman in the NHL most

410
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likely, and it could come as
soon as next season. Yeah, that's

411
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,000
very exciting. I'm interested too in
the guy. I thought that you were

412
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going to mention and I wanted to
bring up and that's why At Kaiser,

413
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,359
who was a twenty twenty third round
pick. He's been at University of Minnesota

414
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,160
Duluth the last of a couple of
seasons, and he represented the US and

415
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,359
the twenty twenty two World Junior Championships
three points in five games. We did

416
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,440
see Kaiser after the NC double a
season, suited up for the Blackhawks nine

417
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,559
games, got three assists. He
looked pretty good out there. He's a

418
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:56,240
great skater, pretty pretty good mobile
defenseman. He's also a lefty. Actually,

419
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,920
all the guys we mentioned Kurtynski,
Blastik, and Kaiser are all lefty,

420
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,279
So I guess any of these guys
could be I'm sure that's going to

421
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:06,960
be everyone's desires to play with Seth
Jones. But you know, like you

422
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,039
said, there'll be a lot of
reasons considered who gets that spot. But

423
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,359
do you think that Kaiser could make
the jump or do you think he goes

424
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:15,960
back to the HL for a year, And what do you think his upside

425
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,720
is? Yeah, Kaiser is definitely
a great skater, as you mentioned,

426
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,200
that is definitely the strongest part of
his game. He's he's really good on

427
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:30,920
the breakouts. That's something that immediately
impressed the Hawks. As far as next

428
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,240
season, I think he probably will
spend at least a decent amount in the

429
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:40,920
NHL. I wouldn't be shocked if
he spends some in Rockford just to get

430
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,680
a little bit more ice time and
more confidence built up, considering how patient

431
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,599
the Hawks have been with their prospects. But it also wouldn't be surprising to

432
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,960
see him spend the full year in
the NHL. He was kind of in

433
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,519
and out little lineup down the stretch
there after coming up from Duluth. Just

434
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:03,559
Luke Richardson to kind of give him
some chances to just watch from afar and

435
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,920
just settle into the league without overwhelming
him. But I think he responded well

436
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,119
enough, and next year he'll probably
be a bit more confident, a bit

437
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,400
more comfortable, and could end up
being a regular. We'll just have to

438
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,319
see how things sort out in camp, but definitely another guy that the Hawks

439
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:25,240
have high expectations for. Really the
whole defensive prospect pipeline is pretty exciting at

440
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,279
this point. Definitely the strongest area
of the franchise really between those two guys

441
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,839
and Plastic as I mentioned, and
even other guys like Ethan del Mastro.

442
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,799
So we'll see how that all shakes
out in terms of the pecking order of

443
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,400
those guys into the next season,
But I would definitely expect Kaiser to play

444
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,359
at least a significant mount in the
NHL and be able to show off his

445
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,119
is skating ability. Well, a
couple of guys who are at least gonna

446
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,400
remain in there. We got until
all these guys appear from the miners.

447
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Caleb Jones not just an epotism high
because the brother of Seth had a reasonable

448
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,839
season. There's some good things.
Don Lucian's model showed that he performed higher

449
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,799
than his salary of one point four
million. He's worth two million according to

450
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,200
that. Last year, he soaked
up a lot of minutes for this franchise

451
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,519
and had sixteen points and seventy three
games, both career highs ninety first in

452
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,200
bash. That's blocks, plush shots
plus hits among defensemen in the NHL.

453
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:28,759
One imagines he wouldn't have had quite
as much oxygen on a different team in

454
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,440
quite as many minutes. But could
Caleb Jones be a reasonable player for this

455
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,920
team again next year? Yeah,
that's actually one of the biggest questions of

456
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:44,160
the summer for me. He is
an RFA and with the number of prospects

457
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680
coming up, it seems like his
fate is kind of lying in the balance.

458
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,240
It might end up being determined by
whether they buy out someone like Nikita

459
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,559
zeit Sev, who they took on
to get a second round pick with from

460
00:32:55,559 --> 00:33:00,880
Ottawa at the deadline, or if
Cortsinski makes a team, or if they

461
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,039
keep Zeitzev and Korchynsky makes the team. I'm not sure the numbers necessarily work

462
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:10,160
out for keeping Caleb Jones, but
um, if it's certainly possible that they

463
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,599
do resign him, he seemed at
least kind of confident at that talking to

464
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,440
him late in the season that he
would be back. And like you said,

465
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he plays a pretty high event game. I would say there's there's always

466
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,519
something happening when he's on the ice. Some of it is not always great

467
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:30,279
for the Hawks. Sometimes it's some
coals against, but um, he does

468
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:34,359
create offense, he does take some
shots, he he does give out some

469
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,640
hits. He's definitely a noticeable player
one way or another, and I think,

470
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,559
yeah, he continues to if he
resigns, he could have a significant

471
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,680
role next year, just because someone
has to play minutes and he has now

472
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,119
been here for two years. There's
a little bit of familiarity and he does

473
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,200
have some strong areas in his game. He is. He does have some

474
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,799
talent offensively for sure. We'll see
how that sorts out. I feel bad

475
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:04,519
for saying that for every single player, but like you mentioned, there is

476
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:08,039
a lot of change coming. But
yeah, definitely a guy worth keeping an

477
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:14,079
eye on. He I think when
he when he was a choired in summer

478
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,039
before last, it didn't seem like
kind of just fother to get Seth Jones

479
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:21,719
to come. But he has definitely
shown that he can hold his own and

480
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:27,960
be an impactful defenseman in his own
way, for better or worse. A

481
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:32,280
guy in the defense who's even longer
tenured than him, Connor Murphy. He

482
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,159
came all the way back in the
days of the Nick Nicholas Helmerson trade to

483
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:43,519
the Arizona Coyotes. Six years Connor
Murphy was number twenty seven a batch.

484
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,639
This guy throws some hits and blocks. He gets a lot of those things,

485
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,199
not a ton of points. Thirteen
and eighty games. That sums up

486
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,320
the stats that they print in the
newspaper, but the advanced stats weren't real

487
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,599
great with him. With his possession
numbers. They were kind of buried this

488
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,079
year as a lot of Blackhawks numbers
were they weren't to win in the Fenwick

489
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:06,159
Battle, or of course he battle
on a nightly basis. He's going to

490
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,159
be around for a little while longer. Three more years. At four point

491
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:13,800
four million, marks the second longest
commitment contract commitment on the club right now.

492
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:17,320
So is Connor Murphy going to continue
to be a mainstay and is he

493
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,039
going to be here the next time
that the Hawks get good again. Yeah,

494
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,960
as far as the final question,
there will have to see kind of

495
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,159
on the timeline of things. But
he definitely is a big leader on this

496
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,880
team. It's really going to come
down to him or Seth Jones to replace

497
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480
tays as captain if they decide to
name a new captain. I think it's

498
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,199
certainly possible they go a year or
two without one, but if they do,

499
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920
it would be one of those two
guys. Murphy is extremely well liked

500
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,000
around the team, great leader in
the locker room, really active in the

501
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,760
community, just an extremely popular guy
on all fronts. So, and he

502
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,119
does have that contract stability moving forward. He's another guy where you probably know

503
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:06,719
what you're gonna get. He's he's
thirty now. He's definitely on the defensive

504
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,880
side of things, but yeah,
he does it does to give out some

505
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,079
hits. He can fight even occasionally. Um, and yeah, he's he's

506
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:19,519
he's really a rock on the defense
for the Hawks. Um, someone that

507
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:24,239
that is valuable just for his consistency
and his leadership. So I will have

508
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,079
to see what happens. Certainly,
his advanced numbers were poor this year.

509
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,280
I think playing with Jack Johnson most
of the year might have been a factor

510
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:37,360
in that. Unfortunately for Jack,
who the nicest guy but does kind of

511
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,840
have a reputation of tanking people's advanced
stats, so that that did not help

512
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Murphy much. But yeah, I
don't know if he's going to be super

513
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,639
fantasy relevant. He kind of is
what he is at this point. But

514
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,280
um, definitely someone that in terms
of actual hockey, the Hawks really do

515
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,960
appreciate having a round. All right, now, let's move into the goalie.

516
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,039
So this was definitely we kind of
knew going into the season it might

517
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,519
be a little bit of a rough
go for all Chicago goalies, and we

518
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,360
saw a few different ones. We
saw most of the games go to Mrazik

519
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,800
and then Alex Daylock actually played twenty
seven. That was a bit surprising.

520
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,920
I'm not sure, there's much to
say about him because he's a little bit

521
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,920
older and not in a contract than
we saw Jackson Stabber and Arvid Solder Bloom

522
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,000
and so I kind of want to, you know, dig into each one

523
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,039
of these. So Mrazik, based
on the cap hit, he is the

524
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:35,920
starter, and so I guess we'll
think about him that way for now.

525
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,639
He did play the majority of the
games I mentioned, had some injuries.

526
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:44,800
He also was quite clearly the worst
goalie by goal save above expected and save

527
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,039
percentage. What do you think we
can expect from Marazik moving forward? He

528
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,519
is the not only the highest paid
but the only one at this well the

529
00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:00,519
main goalie under contract for another year. Yeah, we're just about waiting the

530
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:06,199
goalie situation overall. I think Stalock
was great this year, but it does

531
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,840
sound like he will probably not be
back just based on the contract situation,

532
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920
which is unfortunate because he was.
He was a joy to deal with,

533
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:22,519
a really fascinating story coming back from
missing two years with a myocarditis and then

534
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:27,159
overcoming a concussion and vision issues this
year, and he really did perform extremely

535
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:31,239
well behind a pretty rough shot defense. But it does look like Marozik and

536
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:37,159
Soda Bloom will probably be the two
goalies in the NHL next year, just

537
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Marozik based on having another year in
a contract, and then soda Bloom being

538
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:46,920
really the guy that the Blackhawks see
is their potential long term starter, whether

539
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,599
that's next year at some point in
the future. He's he's an RFA,

540
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,320
but he's definitely gonna be extended,
and he's really the guy among the current

541
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,840
NHL goalies to keep an eye on. In terms of him, he's his

542
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,920
big size, he's very calm in
the net, he has good reactions.

543
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,920
His numbers took a little bit of
a hit at the NHL this year just

544
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,039
because he was kind of thrown into
the fire in the first half of the

545
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:21,840
season when things were especially rough on
the ice. He was just taking a

546
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,239
lot of scoring chances that not many
goalies were going to stop. But in

547
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,800
terms of his his long term upside, the Blackhawks have really high host for

548
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,960
him. His stats at every level
up until this season had been spectacular.

549
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,239
He was really good down the stretch
for Rockford in the AHL after dealing with

550
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,000
some adversity in the winter there um
and he's really the guy that whether he

551
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,960
becomes the starter next season or the
year after that is really the one with

552
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:52,079
some long term relevance. Marazik is
who he is. Certainly his numbers weren't

553
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,079
great. They did get better the
second half this season, and he will

554
00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:00,440
be back next year. It might
be more of a fifty fifty split season.

555
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,199
He dealt with some groin issues this
year, which has been a recurring

556
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,599
problem for him throughout his career.
I think he missed like three or four

557
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:14,320
a different stints with different groin injuries, so definitely a concern with that,

558
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,000
But it does seem like, barring
any surprises, it'll be him and Soda

559
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:22,280
Bloom as the two goalies next year, with Stauber is kind of the third

560
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,800
string to get called up at other
times. For Stauber, there's there's definitely

561
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,519
some optimism with him too. He
went five and one this year. He

562
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:34,920
was that was the best start to
a career in Hawks goalie history. He's

563
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,000
probably not as high as touted a
prospect as Soda Bloom, although he was

564
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:45,119
good at Providence in the NCAA before
signing this past season and kind of adjusting

565
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,079
to the pro level. So between
those two guys and then Drew Comesso,

566
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,280
who's kind of be coming in from
BU next year and was a second round

567
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,440
pick in twenty twenty, another fairly
highly touted prospect. They they have some

568
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,800
guys starting to move up in the
goal a side that the has some long

569
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,599
term potential. Obviously, goalie is
gonna be pretty unpredictable, so well,

570
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:09,000
it'll end up seeing what happens with
that, but I would expect that once

571
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,519
we get past next season, it'll
probably be some combination of those guys with

572
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,639
Marazik is basically just a stop gap
for for another year or two. But

573
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,960
for next year, I would expect
Marazik to still play a significant amount.

574
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,719
Right on. Yeah, definitely.
You answered almost all my questions right there.

575
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,840
So it sounds like you think there's
definite a chance that that solder Bloom

576
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:36,119
competes for the net this upcoming year. And I'm also wondering if if you

577
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:38,400
have any thoughts of what his r
fake contract will look like. Said you

578
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,599
said, it sounds like the team
is going to resign him. Do you

579
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:45,400
think that will be like a one
to two year or do you think they

580
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,280
might be ready to long term commit
to him? And what you know in

581
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,079
terms of how much do you have
any idea. Yeah, I think it

582
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,199
is going to be in the two
year range, just because goalies are unpredictable

583
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,599
and they'd like to see how we
can do as a full time NHL player

584
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:07,159
before making any crazy long term commitments. Um. But I wouldn't take it

585
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,480
as a sign that they're that they're
out on him or anything. I think

586
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,719
that's just kind of the standard operating
procedure for a guy moving up into the

587
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,280
NHL, and if he performs well, which there seems to be every indication

588
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,880
he could do, um, then
I would fully expect them to make a

589
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,119
long term commitment to him in two
years when he comes back to our face

590
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:30,320
status again. Um. But it
does sound like there's there's a lot of

591
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,679
optimism about what he can bring and
with his size and with his calmness and

592
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,159
with his reactions, he really checks
every box. He's been compared a lot

593
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:45,320
to Corey Crawford by Jimmy Waite,
the Hawks goalie coach, which is high

594
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,199
praise obviously. I mean, Corey
Crawford is one of the best goalies in

595
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:52,599
franchise history, so if he can
be anything close to that, that'll be

596
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:58,639
huge for the team moving forward.
So we'll We'll see how that goes,

597
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,199
but yeah, definitely a guy to
keep an eye on moving forward. Okay,

598
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,599
Ben, thank you for these wonderful
insights into all these Chicago Blackhawks players.

599
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,960
It's going to be, oh,
quite a quite a ride to go

600
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,199
through free agency, in the draft
and everything this summer and see what kind

601
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:17,079
of product gets back on the ice. And I think it'll probably be a

602
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:21,880
couple of years before we see the
black Hawks back where they intend to be.

603
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,079
Tell people where they can follow your
work and what you got going out

604
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,000
there in the internet. Yeah,
you can find me on Twitter at Ben

605
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:35,760
Pope's CST and you can also read
my work in the Chicago sometimes online and

606
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,239
in print. Well we still print
every day here in Chicago. I'm not

607
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,360
sure how many people are are going
to be picking that up from this podcast,

608
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,760
but I love if you would.
And yeah, I'm just looking forward

609
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,360
to what's going to be an eventful
offseason. Um, certainly tomorrow's draft lottery

610
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,360
is going to have a huge effect
on that, but even beyond that,

611
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,960
the Hawks still have an additional first
round pick from the Lightning and then they

612
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,880
have four stuckond round picks some two
third round picks, so it's gonna be

613
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,280
a busy, busy summer and um, it'll be interesting to see how everything

614
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,000
plays out. But yeah, thanks
for having me. I appreciate coming on,

615
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:22,719
all right, Thanks Ben Wilson.
Then I'll lets get fired passed off.

616
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:30,079
Oh my goodness, low wo go
with a cat quick grab. Now

617
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:37,760
it's your weekly goalie talk with Cats
Silverman Cats instincts. Please to have a

618
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Cat Silverman back from End Goal mag
to talk about Cats instincts. We're gonna

619
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,360
talk about the prospect goalies, of
course for the Chicago Blackhawks, and the

620
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,280
first one we're gonna talk about is
Drew Comesso and Comeso, twenty twenty second

621
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,360
round pick for the Hawks. Six
foot three, one pound goalie. He

622
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:02,679
had three strong seasons at BU ending
in the frozen four appearance this season a

623
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,199
stellar twenty eight twenty four and eight
record to four AGA nine thirteen save percentage.

624
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,920
We'll reference this a lot in these
team previews. Expected goals per goal

625
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,000
conceded is something that instat provides,
and it was above about one point four

626
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,039
his entire college career. Anything over
one is really good, and looking at

627
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:28,159
his hockey prospecting, Drew Comeso hovering
in that twenty seven to thirty two percent

628
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,360
chance of being an NHLer, which
may sound low, but for goalies that's

629
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,079
not terrible. He's got some comps, guys like Charlie Lingren, who's kind

630
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:40,320
of coming around these days. So
I imagine Comiso needs some HL time now

631
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,079
that he's kind of done with his
collegian career. But Kat, how have

632
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:47,199
you liked his progression and is he
looking like a potential starter for the Blackhawks

633
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:52,239
in a few years. I would
say so. I think just taking a

634
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:59,000
look at the Blackhawks future and just
the bigger picture for them, he's their

635
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:06,719
best bet moving forward. I think
he was interesting because he was right below

636
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,320
Spencer Night. They were on the
US national development program together. He was

637
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:15,960
one year younger, and they just
played like polar opposite games. Night was

638
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:23,400
known for being just this really almost
controlled goaltender who stayed a little farther in

639
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,159
his crease when he wasn't handling the
pock, but was a really skilled puck

640
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,239
handler. And Camso's big strength for
me was his skating. I thought that

641
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,880
he was a little aggressive at times, got a little over excited, and

642
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:42,800
sometimes made a few of those creative
saves. I guess is the best way

643
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,440
to put it, where technique isn't
something that he necessarily stays super rigid on

644
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,760
on some saves that maybe he didn't
need to, but he showed that he

645
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:58,159
could reign an end when he needed
to and didn't really see any dips in

646
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,760
his game when he transitioned and from
playing in the juniors to playing at the

647
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,840
collegiate level. And I know he's
signed, so he's technically with Rockford now,

648
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:15,000
UM, so his his career view
has fully wrapped up. I think

649
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,159
that he's he looks good and I
thought that it was a really fun test

650
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,920
that we don't usually get to see
for goalies that are his age. That

651
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,960
he was able to join the Olympic
team, UM, that's something that obviously

652
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:37,719
not endorsing what Gary Bettman did with
holding the NHL he's out of the Olympics,

653
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,039
but it was it was cool getting
to see some of the guys that

654
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:45,159
really we wouldn't have expected prior getting
a chance to play at the Olympic level

655
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:50,519
and getting a chance to see the
experience and getting just they're through the international

656
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:55,239
tournament. UM. I do think
that he probably needs some seasoning at the

657
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,400
HL level, partially because of his
game, just because I think he needs

658
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:07,280
that adaptation decision making wise, because
he does like to get a little aggressive,

659
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:10,519
but also because there's no need to
put him on the Blackhawks right now

660
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:17,280
because they're bad. There's no need
to take a goaltender who really likes to

661
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,480
kind of do it all, like
he really likes to make sure that everything

662
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:25,760
from the hash Mark's back is something
that he is in control of, and

663
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,079
take a team that's controlling almost nothing
and throw him in there. I think

664
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:35,599
that's a really easy way to essentially
create some bad habits for him that they

665
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:39,800
would then essentially have to undo as
the team progressed in what I'm sure they're

666
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:47,159
hoping is a forward moving, a
linear moving rebuild. Yeah, for sure,

667
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:51,679
you're right. It was really fun
to see him at the Olympics,

668
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,239
and he definitely didn't look out of
place. He looks strong, but as

669
00:48:54,239 --> 00:49:00,159
you mentioned, definitely needs like a
structure in front of him to make some

670
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:04,800
of those you know, aggressive acrobatic
saves. Yeah. I like him.

671
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,280
I definitely am eager to see him
in the pro level. The next guy

672
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:14,039
that we're going to talk about we
have seen professionally, Arvid Solder Bloom is

673
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,039
apparently how you say it, or
Solderblom. I think it's Solderblom. Actually

674
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,960
he is undrafted and he signed with
Chicago, got into fifteen games this season

675
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,280
with the Hawks three last season.
The raw numbers don't look so hot,

676
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,119
but under the hood, he was
outperforming his expected goal His delta Fenwick is

677
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,760
positive at even strength on the penalty
kill, it was kind of a disaster,

678
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,679
but hey, that's okay. That's
a tough situation for a goalie.

679
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:49,840
And it's really interesting when you look
at solder Bloom. Solderblom's hockey prospecting,

680
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,519
he was kind of hovering in the
high twenties until last season in the SHL,

681
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:58,000
and then this season this past season
also in the HL, where he

682
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,960
shot up to nearly seventy three percent, And that gives him some really nice

683
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:06,519
comps guys like oh, I don't
know, Martember dur O'Connor Hellabuk, Elias

684
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,679
sampson Off, and Henrik Lundquist.
So I think kat we buried the lead

685
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,760
and Arvid Soderblaum is the next Henrik
Lundquist. Right, that's a that's such

686
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,559
a bold thing to say, even
though I mean he's he's from that system.

687
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:25,000
He played for Flundo, Over and
Sweden before getting signed by Chicago.

688
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:30,599
I thought that was a savvy signing
by them, which was kind of making

689
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:37,920
up for some really lukewarm goaltending decision
making choices that they've sort of exhibited over

690
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,679
the last couple of years. They
drafted kind of questionably for a little bit,

691
00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:45,440
which I know we're gonna talk a
little bit about one of those prospects.

692
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:51,159
I think he does need some time
to develop. To me, I

693
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:58,519
assumed they signed him as a stopgap
for Commisso who by all accounts seems like

694
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,079
that's who they drafted to their air
apparent they used a second round pick on

695
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:07,280
him. I do think that the
numbers looked pretty good. I thought that

696
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:15,199
he looked It was telling seeing that
when you looked at essentially how he was

697
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,159
performing given the team in front of
him, he looked like he outperformed really

698
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:24,880
the last two prospects that we saw
attempting to to salvage their own development path

699
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,880
in Chicago, which was when they
had Colin Delia and Kevin Lincoln and essentially

700
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:37,199
trying to trying to get their their
feet wet in the pros at the NHL

701
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:42,239
level with Chicago. Both of them
really sort of crumpled the longer they were

702
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,719
behind that team. And I think
that Soderable, I'm really looked like he

703
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,440
was looked like he was staying at
least consistent. He was making mistakes,

704
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,119
but wasn't seeming like he was compounding
on them, like you'd watched him throughout

705
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:59,440
a game, and it didn't seem
like he would make a mistake and then

706
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,639
make a new one that you hadn't
seen him make before. He was really

707
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:07,280
just sort of sort of shaking off
some of the some of the decision making

708
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,800
things that really you have to get
used to when you're moving over to North

709
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,960
America. And I think that he's
got a good teacher in Rockford. I

710
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,960
think that the goalie coach that Chicago
has down in Rockford, that's Peter Aubrey

711
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:25,679
last I checked, does a really
good job of establishing good habits for those

712
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:31,079
guys so that when they do make
it to the NHL level, they're prepared

713
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:38,039
for it's preparing them for a unique
situation on the ice in front of him,

714
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:43,480
because that team's kind of become the
new perennial rebuilders here over the last

715
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:50,159
couple of years. But I think
he. I wish I'd seen a little

716
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:53,480
more HL seasoning for him to really
know what would have happened when he'd come

717
00:52:53,519 --> 00:53:00,239
into the NHL and like a just
just like a golden opportunity. I think

718
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,159
it would have been nice to have
seen like an exemplary trajectory for him.

719
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:07,360
But I think he's done well with
what he has and he hasn't seemed like

720
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:13,119
he's back split at all. Some
of the goaltenders that come over from Sweden

721
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,800
seem like they get caught a little
flat almost. They really like to drop

722
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,440
to their knees. They like to
make a lot of those lateral movements through

723
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,920
the paint. I don't really like
to hit their marks super crisply. They

724
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,760
like to play a more fluid game. And when you're playing behind a defense

725
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,960
that can kind of crumble on you
throughout the game, that can get really

726
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:37,639
messy looking. I think that we
saw that with Anton Forceburg for sure in

727
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,400
Chicago a couple of years ago,
and I think that Soderball managed to avoid

728
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:46,039
that, which was reassuring. It's
just I mean, he's still young,

729
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,360
but he's he know, has two
years of North American pro hockey. So

730
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,480
I want to see him take just
a little step forward next year in order

731
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:59,360
to really feel confident that he could
challenge Comesso and sort of usurp him as

732
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:04,800
the guy that they hope to be
their next number one. Yeah, definitely,

733
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,199
And I'm kudos for not taking the
bait on the lun Quis comparison that

734
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,800
was obviously a joke. And you're
right, it seems like trial by fire,

735
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,039
right, It's like, hey,
if you can survive playing in front

736
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:19,440
of this team, good, you
know, good on you. And it

737
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,679
seems like what, I don't think
that. I don't think that was really

738
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:24,639
the plan. But with Razak's injury
and the inconsistencies they had, they you

739
00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:29,039
know, they kind of threw him
out there. And kudos for him for

740
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:32,239
doing still well. But yeah,
it does seem like he's the in between

741
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,519
guy. Although sometimes that in between
guy will surprise you, right, Sometimes

742
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,320
a stop gap ends up being a
little bit better than you thought. So

743
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,239
I'm definitely still interested in him.
The next guy you think you kind of

744
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,599
alluded to him is dominic bass or
basset. I'm not really sure if it.

745
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,159
Do you know which one it is? I don't. I think it's

746
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:57,519
bass m but I'm I'm not entirely
sure on that one. Yeah, I

747
00:54:57,559 --> 00:55:00,159
wanted to be Bassie, so we
can just assume his nickname his Count,

748
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:07,320
so we can call him Count Bassie. But anyways, he's a twenty nineteen

749
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,639
sixth round pick by Chicago. Six
foot six ninety two, big guy.

750
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,079
Played a color college for two seasons, but then now seems like he's he

751
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:21,239
transferred over to Saint Cloud. Steak
had state, had one season there and

752
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,679
I did pretty well, you know, his say percentage kind of trended up

753
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:29,320
this past season. His hockey prospecting
has him in kind of the low thirties,

754
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,360
high twenties. UM some comps of
guys like Cure Schmid who's developing still,

755
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,199
Michael Hutchinson, and Jonathan Quick,
but it doesn't really look that similar

756
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:43,760
actually, because Quick really kind of
ascended at the end. But anyways,

757
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:50,920
what can you tell us about Dominic
b A s s um. He was

758
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,000
a really strange pick for me.
I was at that draft covering it,

759
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:59,360
and when he got picked, I
it's that was a really strong year for

760
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,960
goaltending. There were a lot of
really good goaltenders available in that draft class,

761
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,079
and when they picked him, I
texted a couple of goalie coaches that

762
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:13,280
I knew and said, what am
I missing here? At the time,

763
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,360
he played for Gonzaga Prep, which
is a high school in DC. He

764
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,679
played for the Maryland I think it
was like the U sixteen and then the

765
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:28,400
U nineteen team, in which I'm
from Baltimore. Like, I love the

766
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:34,679
DMB area, no disrespect to it, that's not a hockey hotbed. I

767
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,239
was wondering, just, you know, kind of what I was missing there,

768
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,639
and a couple guys got back to
me and said, honestly, the

769
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:43,440
only thing I can think of is
he had really it looked like he was

770
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:50,239
playing at a level below what he
could. His numbers were above and beyond

771
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,280
everyone else playing at that level,
and he's huge. He's six foot six,

772
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:57,920
he's listed at one eighty. I
think he's probably a little more than

773
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:07,320
that. He's really solid guy,
but technically, like from a technique standpoint,

774
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,920
watching him plays pretty frustrating. I
didn't get to see much of him

775
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,039
this year at St. Cloud State. I'm hoping that he's started to trend

776
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:19,920
upwards a little bit, because it
seemed like he's stalled out with Colorado College

777
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,199
for sure. I watched him a
lot when he was playing for the Phantoms

778
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:28,079
in the USAHL get an eight eight
seven that year when he made the move

779
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:31,599
to playing at you know, just
a slightly higher tier than he had been

780
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:37,400
prior to the draft. He just
struggled a lot with reflex speed. You

781
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:44,159
see that with some of those bigger
guys who their advantage is that they take

782
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:45,840
up a lot of space in the
crease, not necessarily they can get to

783
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,719
the puck quickly. So it's kind
of the opposite end of the spectrum from

784
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,599
a guy like Drew Comso, who
can get anywhere as quickly as you need

785
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:57,119
him too. But I didn't really
see that improving during the games that I

786
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:01,639
caught him at Colorado College, So
don't really don't really know where that one's

787
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:07,320
headed. I think that's they need
more depths in net at the minor league

788
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,079
level, and I'd assume that's where
he's going to end up falling. It

789
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:17,000
would be a best case scenario Saint
Cloud State really manages to essentially give him

790
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:22,679
some of that foundation that he was
missing and get him up to speed a

791
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,840
little bit more, give him some
creativity to his game because he was missing

792
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,760
a lot of that just just that
upper tier when watching him. Um,

793
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,440
but I don't know that's He's a
guy that I assumed when they drafted him

794
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,719
that he wasn't even gonna end up
signing. Um. Maybe they'll, maybe

795
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:44,800
they'll end up using him in a
depth role. But I for sure think

796
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,559
that it's the comesso sodable embrace here
to see who who really stands out the

797
00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:54,880
most? And then no, no
disrespect to Dominic, but I think he's

798
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:15,400
he's a level below the rest of
them for sure. Dig then dynasty Dig

799
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:21,400
Victor. I missed this. I
missed talking the dynasty. Dig this if

800
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,719
you are with Fantasy, if you're
a lifer for the first year this year,

801
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,480
if you don't know, this is
the time when we talk about a

802
00:59:28,519 --> 00:59:31,400
couple of the top prospects. We
talk about the system of the Chicago Blackhawks.

803
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:35,800
And here's the deal with the Blackhawks. They have a top lottery pick,

804
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,400
which maybe by the time you've listened
to this you know where it lands.

805
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:43,320
They have Tampa's pick, which Ben
referenced in the first half, and

806
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,159
boy, it turned out to be
a better pick than Tampa would have thought.

807
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:49,960
It's gonna be picked twenty I believe. Plus they have three extra second

808
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:52,039
round picks and an extra third.
They kind of a triggered away a couple

809
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:54,920
of their late picks, but that's
okay. They'll get plenty of prospects out

810
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,159
of this draft victory. You have
their system ranked as tie knight. That's

811
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:04,119
part of the cool thing about Victor's
new ranks is we actually have Victor's rank

812
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,480
for systems kind of summed up from
the top ten prospects and how highly you

813
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,400
have them rated. Tell us why
this system is so good, and then

814
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:19,760
let's move to your patented three man
formats starting with the new brainer. Yeah,

815
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,079
for sure, they got a lot
of really great prospects. I mean,

816
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,400
in my mind, they're kind of
doing it right. You know.

817
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,800
They they really traded away a lot
of their long term contracts. They got

818
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,840
a lot of great assets, and
you look at their you know, top

819
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:37,360
guys, and they have some really
good ones we will talk about them,

820
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,000
but they also have some great depths
beyond that. Guys that we are going

821
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,679
to talk so much about, Sam
Ronzel, Ethan del masstro both look like

822
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,440
NHL ors, Ryan Green a little
bit, and Drew Comesso, who we

823
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:52,159
alluded to why at Kaiser's in there, Alex Regula, Alec Regulam, Colton

824
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,519
doc. Even so, they have
some pretty decent upside guys and a decent

825
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:00,079
amount of depth too. So they
got some good guys at the top would

826
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:04,599
talk about in a minute, and
some decent depths. Not the best.

827
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:07,360
That's why they're not in top five, but they're they're up there. They're

828
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:12,039
kind of retooling this and doing it
right. And in terms of their no

829
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:16,239
brainer, he's actually the top prospect
that I have, and that's Kevin Krtchinsky.

830
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,960
Ben already alluded to him. Couldn't
keep him out of the pro part

831
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,119
of the conversation. That was great
to hear that he thought that he had

832
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,639
a pretty good chance, Kortynsky,
of making the team. That's great.

833
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:31,519
He was drafted seventh overall by Chicago
twenty twenty two. Cortchinsky, he just

834
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:37,599
had an insane as having an insane
season. It's still going for the Seattle

835
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:40,880
Thunderbirds of the WHL. Seventy three
points in fifty four games of the defenseman

836
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:47,599
is just incredible, and so that's
I mean, that's just incredible to think

837
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:52,639
about right now. He also looked
really good for the for Canada in the

838
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:58,440
U twenty World Junior Championships as well. So those are those are all really

839
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:06,159
good good things that think about it, looks like his Seattle Thunderbirds have just

840
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:10,559
been thumping the wall competition too.
I mean the first two rounds that his

841
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:15,400
team won four games to zero.
Right now it looks like it's a little

842
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,440
bit closer against cam Loop's three games
to two. But I think most people

843
01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,360
fully expect Seattle to win the WHL
Championship and be a contender for the Moroyal

844
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,320
Cup. We will see if they
make it that far, but Kevin Kotchinsky

845
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,039
is doing everything for them right now. Just kind of looking at some of

846
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:37,880
his underlying numbers. Two in case
you're curious, he is someone that doesn't

847
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:43,159
really hit a whole lot. He
has barely a hit every five games.

848
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:46,280
Are still his blocks are pretty decent, though close to a block per game,

849
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,559
but you expect someone who played as
much time as he did to have

850
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:54,159
more in the realm of blocks.
Two point six shots per game is pretty

851
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:58,280
decent, But it's really mostly about
the points for him. He's going to

852
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,039
be a little bit of an empty
calorie a guy. As we'll see later

853
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,119
that is alluded to, but his
Corsi and Fenwick is just absurd. I

854
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:09,760
mean, sixty five percent play driving. That's just completely tilting the ice in

855
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:15,079
the other direction. Let's hear a
little bit from our FHL scout Jeremy about

856
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:21,440
Korchynsky. So there's a great full
skyding report on the one note on that

857
01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:23,199
you could access through through Patreon.
So I'm not going to read the whole

858
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:27,199
thing. But in terms of his
skating, he's a really good skater.

859
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:31,719
Jeremy saw him blowing by forwards effortlessly
at times at the WHL level. Puck

860
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:37,000
handling is a very solid entry exit
guy above average there. Shot is pretty

861
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,559
average, doesn't use it too often, but he's good at getting the puck

862
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:44,480
on net, you know, and
kind of floating the shots in. Not

863
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:49,440
a big slapper kind of guy.
IQ is elite offensively and kind of just

864
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:52,760
average defensively. His defense is pretty
average. He's got good size, but

865
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,440
he doesn't use it quite as well
as Jeremy would like. He isn't really

866
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,159
aggressive for rebounds or loose us or
board battles. Best asset definitely his offensive

867
01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:05,719
instincts. There's no doubt there's some
talent there for making great passes, joining

868
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,840
the rush. Biggest concern for Jeremy's
a compete level. He just looks disengaged

869
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,599
out there at times, not battling
for pucks or fighting hard. Top tier

870
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:19,079
potential for Korchynsky. Tier one definitely
has that sixty seventy point upside thinks he'll

871
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:23,639
have if he has a good surrounding
cast. He could definitely do that,

872
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,599
but he's not seeing him in the
vein of Romagnosi or Jacob chick Rand,

873
01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:30,519
guys that lead bad teams in scoring
and also have all those peripherals. That's

874
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:35,920
probably not going to be Kortchinsky and
most likely tiers. Maybe Tier two doesn't

875
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,840
have the strong press as I mentioned, but the points in power play points

876
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,639
should be there. Diilistic comparable,
he has his Keith Yandel, a big

877
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:46,800
guy who doesn't really hit, offensive
defenseman who doesn't shoot as much, and

878
01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:53,760
without those blemishes, Kortchynsky can become
the kind of guy who constantly is expected

879
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,400
to be more impactful than he actually
is. He should be a regular though

880
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,480
in the NHL and on good teams. He could accumulate a ton of stats,

881
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:04,320
but not sure. He's a fortune
changer in Chicago, maybe a taller

882
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:08,320
Tory Crewe. And for a little
bit more on that, we're going to

883
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,800
hear briefly from Jeremy himself on how
he's Krtchynsky running a power play in the

884
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:19,639
NHL. I wanted to elaborate a
bit further on my comments about Kevin Kritchynski's

885
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,760
ability to run a power play.
My issue is that he isn't really a

886
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,960
threat on the power play. He's
a very good distributor, but that's all

887
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:31,440
he is. He stays within a
foot of the blue line and moves back

888
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,960
and forth like a pong paddle,
and he's used to switch fields like a

889
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:40,199
soccer. He's not really a shooting
threat and never creeps in to put peresher

890
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,000
on tired penalty killers. An NHL
comparable to that is Tyson Barry or Tory

891
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:49,440
Crue. It can be successful,
like these guys are players who get a

892
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,559
lot of power play points and have
run pp ones for many years, but

893
01:05:55,679 --> 01:06:00,639
it's entirely reliant on playing with other
good players and picking up assists and especially

894
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:06,039
secondary assists. I feel like he's
always going to be the default choice,

895
01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:12,159
but he's not going to take the
power play from anyone else. Compare that

896
01:06:12,199 --> 01:06:16,800
to Kale Makarr on the power play, who holds onto the puck, attacks

897
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,559
downhill and forces the defense to account
for him. Otherwise he's suddenly ripping a

898
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:28,000
shot from the high slot and probably
scoring even looking at like Evan Bouchard.

899
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,480
Evan Bouchard will creep in and get
passes from the high slot and really cramp

900
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:39,119
the box and put pressure on the
defense to catch. In another way,

901
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,880
when Makar receives the puck on the
point on the power play, his first

902
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,800
step is always forward towards the net, while Kurtchinsky's is always sideways to make

903
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:55,760
that outlet pass. That's not necessarily
a bad thing, but it's very boring

904
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,000
and very low ceiling. So now
I'm moving on to the US the NHL

905
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:05,559
rank King. Our buddy Mason Black
ran some comps for Krtchinsky, and I

906
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:10,679
also, before I did that,
actually wanted to just mention the tracking data

907
01:07:10,719 --> 01:07:15,039
that Mitch Brown has for Kortchynsky.
And you know, if you're not familiar

908
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:17,000
with these, you're you're basically just
looking at how he compares in a bunch

909
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:21,360
of different metrics to the rest of
the league. And passing and shooting is

910
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,719
elite for Kortchynsky. He's also really
good at you know, total game score,

911
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,519
expected power play, involvement, advantages
created. These are all really strong.

912
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:35,039
What's not so strong for him is
like preventing entries, which is kind

913
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:39,000
of interesting because he's such a good
skater. He's tally is a long stick

914
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:45,480
that kind of speaks to the disengagement
that Jeremy alluded to. He also probably

915
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,119
should be much better in transition than
he is according to this data based on

916
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,480
how he plays, so that's a
little bit disappointing. So defense rates out

917
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:55,719
at a fifty four, but overall
he's a ninety nine offense and ninety six

918
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:01,400
overall. And the comp that Mason
came up with is Lane Hudson. So

919
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:08,199
if we look at Kevin Korchinsky's p
NHL, it is it was ninety seven

920
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:16,039
this season and it was eighty seven
last season. And Lane Hudson, if

921
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:23,159
you hadn't heard, had a pretty
historic season at Boston University, breaking records

922
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:27,800
and setting news standards, things that
we haven't seen since to Brian Leach days,

923
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,880
you know, thirty years ago,
thirty forty years ago. And he

924
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,159
has PNA Chili. Lane Hudson's is
one eleven, really high. If you

925
01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:40,479
look at the Hockey prospecting, they
actually look pretty similar. Korchinsky's star potential

926
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,840
shot up from twenty six to seventy
eight percent. That's a really high star

927
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,239
percentage, and you always love to
see these guys increase in their D plus

928
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:49,399
one year. Most guys go down, So when you see a big jump

929
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:55,399
up, that's a huge, huge
bonus. Lane Hudson went from fifty three

930
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,520
percent chance of being a start to
seventy four percent. That's also huge,

931
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,399
especially going from the usnt P to
the NCAA. It's really hard to increase

932
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:06,880
your star potential there. So the
poll went as such, sixty four percent

933
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:13,880
to Lane Hudson and just thirty six
percent for Kevin Kortinsky. Jesse, do

934
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,600
you agree with that, Well,
here's what I'm going to say about this

935
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,760
victor. These two guys. In
addition to this season where Lane Hudson just

936
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:29,039
got all the oxygen, their hype
coming into the season was in exact opposite

937
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:33,359
directions. Kortchinsky was the guy who
Chicago shouldn't have traded Alex to bring it

938
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,960
to the number six pick to take
him. Everybody was shocked. It was

939
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,319
a reach. Lane Hudson was such
a value, and I think that plays

940
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:45,479
into people's heads of Hudson is so
much better because he was drafted low,

941
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,439
and while that draft capital, it
doesn't matter where you were picked, it

942
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,880
only matters who you are. Now. I think that the narrative on Kortchinsky

943
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,560
is so negative Hudson so positive,
that the values are a little bit crossed

944
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,840
up in I see an arbitrage opportunity
here. I know what you said about

945
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:10,760
Lane Hudson potentially or Kortchinsky not necessarily
having great bashed potential, and Hudson does.

946
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,640
Weirdly enough, though, Hudson's four
inches shorter and twenty five pounds lighter

947
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:19,239
than Kortchinsky is. So yeah,
are we gonna get the Keithy handle?

948
01:10:19,279 --> 01:10:24,520
I don't know. I think if
the poll is spread this widely, I

949
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,159
like them closer together than this.
Maybe there's an opportunity for me to train

950
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,479
Lane Hudson for Kevin Kortchinsky. Plus
in my league probably are umabled to get

951
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,439
that, So it's very even to
me. I think I might actually like

952
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,640
Kortchinsky, although probably somebody will convince
me of Lane Hudson when we get to

953
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,520
our Montreal episode. Have a feeling
he'll be featured rather significantly in that episode.

954
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:54,039
So I'm gonna take Kurtchynsky by a
hair victor just because I you know,

955
01:10:54,079 --> 01:11:00,680
I want to stir it up.
Yeah, that's really fair. I

956
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:05,079
don't actually disagree with you at all. I think there's a lot of hype

957
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:08,399
going on right now for both of
these guys, and that's why this is

958
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,960
a really fun poll. I'm surprised
that it's so close. I Mean,

959
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,600
the thing is that as fun and
as good as Lane Hudson is, he

960
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,399
is still very small. And even
though he's grown a little bit, and

961
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:21,199
some of the data that he's showed
based on his bone age and all that

962
01:11:21,279 --> 01:11:25,199
suggests he could even grow a little
bit more. I mean he's now five

963
01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:28,760
ten. Supposedly, if he gets
you know, five ten, five eleven,

964
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,479
much better chance. But he still
has a lot of deficiencies in his

965
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,840
game, things that the Kevin Krtchynsky
is just not going to have to worry

966
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:40,159
about, you know, the skating, the physicalness, his body size,

967
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:43,479
So all of those things. I
agree with you, though, Like if

968
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,840
someone wanted to give me Kurtynsky plus
plus for Hudson. I would do that

969
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,880
in a heartbeat, but I'm not
sure that I would invest the other way

970
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,159
so heavily. If I had Kurtchinsky, I might just hold, you know,

971
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:58,640
because he has such a first of
all, as Ben mentioned, he

972
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,920
might be ready as early as next
year, so I don't have to wait

973
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,880
two or three years for the Lane
Hudson to arrive, right, And so

974
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:09,800
I really like that aspect of it. So I think that I am I

975
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,960
personally like Lane Hudson more and I
think that he has a higher upside.

976
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,680
But if I had to choose in
my league, unless I was like really

977
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:23,119
rebuilding and ready to be patient for
the highest possible outcome, I think I

978
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:27,159
would just go Kurt Chinsky too.
Next up, Victor, who is your

979
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:32,359
need to know prospect need to know? Is Frank the Tank Nazarre. He

980
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:38,720
didn't play much this season, he
had injury, suited up for just thirteen

981
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:43,359
games for Michigan, scored seven points. Still has a very high pedigree.

982
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,840
He's the thirteenth overall pick from twenty
twenty two. Still very small, He's

983
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,279
also he's just five nine and so
that's a big concern for him. Not

984
01:12:51,279 --> 01:12:55,079
only is he five nine, but
he's a little slight one hundred and seventy

985
01:12:55,079 --> 01:13:00,239
four pounds. Definitely needs to improve
on those things. Probably needs an another

986
01:13:00,319 --> 01:13:03,199
year or two of college and then
maybe another year or two of the HL.

987
01:13:03,319 --> 01:13:08,279
So he is a ways away.
I think if you look at some

988
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:13,199
of his numbers at Michigan, half
a hit per game, not really much

989
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,640
in the way of blocks, and
not really much in the way of shots

990
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,000
per game either. I mean,
this is just a nine game sample size,

991
01:13:17,039 --> 01:13:23,479
so who knows, but there's some
there's some concern there for lack of

992
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,640
lack of bass. He probably is
going to be one of these empty calorie

993
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,439
type forwards that you know does a
lot of playmaking but can certainly give you

994
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,399
those cardio shifts where you know he
doesn't really do a whole lot if he's

995
01:13:34,399 --> 01:13:39,600
not scoring. Let's hear a little
bit more about Frank Nazar from our FHL

996
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:45,039
scout Jeremy. His skating is above
average, really good north south puck handling

997
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,640
is elite, seems to not even
lose speed when he's carrying the puck,

998
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:54,279
has really quick hands, and his
shot is average. Didn't shoot that much

999
01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:59,600
there are definitely some games where he
didn't really see this too often and not

1000
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:03,399
not something that he defaults too very
often. I Q is elite. He's

1001
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:08,960
infinitely patient with the puck master has
mastered the art of holding on to it

1002
01:14:09,079 --> 01:14:12,520
for guys to get open worth without
losing it or holding it too long.

1003
01:14:13,079 --> 01:14:15,439
Defense is above average. He's a
responsible player in his own zone, but

1004
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,760
not stand out. Best asset is
his puck handling and vision. He's good

1005
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,399
at finding the open guy and not
over stick handling. The biggest concern is

1006
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,520
that he gets muscled off puck's pretty
easily still and loses some battles in the

1007
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:32,600
corner. Top tier potential definitely Tier
one has Nazarre has one hundred points stealing

1008
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:38,199
upside according to Jeremy and the most
likely tiers. Tier two thinks that he'll

1009
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:42,159
settle nicely with at least like seventy
ish points, but his biggest concern is

1010
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:44,960
the bash. He doesn't, as
I mentioned, hit or block much,

1011
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:47,199
and there's a pretty big drop off
from the NTDPT the NC double A,

1012
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:54,279
although of course small sample size stylistic
comparable. He has jack q's and even

1013
01:14:54,279 --> 01:14:57,880
though his head is always up and
he's moving with his feet with him without

1014
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,079
the puck, he's going to be
a headache to cover once his body fills

1015
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:04,439
out and adjust to the NHL game. So that's a little bit more on

1016
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,239
that, Thank you, Jeremy.
Let's look at some comps. So NHL

1017
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:15,520
rank King Mason Black has the following
comp for Frank Nazar and that is Rutger

1018
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:21,479
mcgrorty, former usn TDP teammate,
and mcgrordy is a Winnipeg Jet prospect.

1019
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:26,319
He was taking fourteenth overall and Nazar
at thirteenth overall, so pretty close here

1020
01:15:26,359 --> 01:15:32,279
in draft pedigree and the p n
h L for Nazaar well based on based

1021
01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:36,119
on his University of Michigan time,
it was only thirty one, so pretty

1022
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:41,720
low, but it was higher than
that at the usn TDP and mcgordy this

1023
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:47,319
season at at Michigan also a teammate
there fifty nine. So between these two

1024
01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:51,119
the star potential both went down from
draft season to now. For Nazar it

1025
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:56,199
went from twenty to five and from
mcgrordy went from thirty two to twenty,

1026
01:15:56,319 --> 01:16:00,560
so both went down a pretty fair
amount and they a McGroarty still has a

1027
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:05,399
slightly higher potential now but also he
had a much bigger sample size and a

1028
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:13,600
much better season between the two.
The people out there a couple hundred votes

1029
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,359
voted pretty handily for Frank Nazar sixty
four percent to Rugram mcgorty's thirty six percent.

1030
01:16:19,119 --> 01:16:24,279
Jesse, are you with the people
here? Man? I must be

1031
01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:28,039
starting rough this year because I'm gonna
go McGroarty. Look, he proved it

1032
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:30,760
this year. He was the guy
who's doing it on the ice. They

1033
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,520
were both in the same situation in
Michigan. Michigan course had a pretty good

1034
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:39,880
season of a stacked team. But
how are you gonna fault what mcgourty did

1035
01:16:40,319 --> 01:16:43,399
based on the fact that Nazar wasn't
as much on the ice this year,

1036
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,439
And it's it's not a perfect game
that he Scott. It sounds like there's

1037
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,279
some good things going for Nazar.
But yeah, right now, I'm gonna

1038
01:16:48,279 --> 01:16:54,479
take Gordy Victor, how about you, and I'm gonna disagree with you.

1039
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,520
I hear what you're saying, and
yeah, I mean it's it's definitely concerning

1040
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,760
that the Nazarre missed so much time. It's also hard to evaluate that Michigan

1041
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,239
team because they had said so many
good players, and it's like, you

1042
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:10,720
know, it's kind of hard to
know who's who's all doing what, But

1043
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,560
and you can't discount what mcgordy did. I certainly think that he opened a

1044
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,840
few more eyes than I think some
people thought that he could be. And

1045
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,600
so yeah, this isn't really a
knock on mc gordy. I just think

1046
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:27,000
Nazar still has more upside. So
if you're okay being in if you're in

1047
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,399
a league that you're not going to
be so punished for not having those perpherles,

1048
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,039
especially like in a points league where
you know the goals and the power

1049
01:17:34,039 --> 01:17:39,199
play points might count a little bit
more than Nazar is clearly the choice here.

1050
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:44,159
If if having a sixty ish point
forward that it hits and blocks a

1051
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:47,520
lot is more valuable than a seventy
five point player that doesn't really do much

1052
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,960
else, then you know, then
mcgordy might be just fine, because I

1053
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,800
think he definitely looks like an NHL. He doesn't have the size concerns.

1054
01:17:57,239 --> 01:18:00,560
You know, he plays really rough
and physical, and he's he's already a

1055
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,159
little bit more mature. So I
like that. But in terms of pure

1056
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:05,159
points upside, I think it's got
to be bizarre for me. So it

1057
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:09,000
kind of depends a little bit on
what you're what you're looking for, I

1058
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,880
guess. And last picture, who
is to keep your eye on? Prospect?

1059
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:16,520
Yeah, well, we already kind
of talked about rachel but we're going

1060
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:21,199
to talk about him a little bit
more in the context of him still really

1061
01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:25,520
being a prospect, and so we'll
talk about Lucas Riche one hundred and eight

1062
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,479
points in one hundred and eleven HL
Games. Incredible production. I know last

1063
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,399
year Caleb and I talked a little
bit about his lack of elite skills,

1064
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,560
but it's hard to kind of deny
the production that he has done. And

1065
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:42,760
you heard a little bit from Ben
already about what he thinks from Richel moving

1066
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,680
forward. I definitely think he's going
to be one of the features of this

1067
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,000
offense moving forward for the next several
years. But I do think he is

1068
01:18:48,039 --> 01:18:54,800
still more of a complimentary player or
not someone who drives the bus entirely himself.

1069
01:18:55,359 --> 01:18:59,640
And you know, we had a
different scout take a look at Rachael

1070
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,960
this year. So this Skydi report
is from Tony and mentioned his fact that

1071
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:09,079
he's a good skater, great shot, great passer, but he also gives

1072
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:11,760
up the puck a lot, is
about as many times as he keeps it,

1073
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,920
so that's a little disappointing. His
shots are good, both wrists and

1074
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,800
snapshots, has a pretty medium panic
meter. He does play really really fast,

1075
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:25,239
so that's part of it too.
His defense needs works and what needs

1076
01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:28,880
work and probably is more of a
third or fourth liner according to Tonya,

1077
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,399
so that means he's going to have
to play better defense, which I agree

1078
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:35,239
with. Best asset is his offense, snap and wrist shots. Biggest concern

1079
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,960
again here is this is and I
didn't coach Tony at all on this,

1080
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,439
but he saw a lot of the
same things that I've seen with Caleb,

1081
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,319
is that nothing in his game is
outstanding. It's all just good. And

1082
01:19:46,399 --> 01:19:50,279
so that's a little bit of a
concern that there isn't one of these elite

1083
01:19:50,279 --> 01:19:54,439
skills. Now, sometimes these guys
that are just all around good do kind

1084
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,399
of produce pretty well, but I
think it's more rare. Usually you have

1085
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:04,279
one great or exceptional talent, top
tier potential, tier three offense, good

1086
01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:09,760
offense, good shooter. Probably he
says thirty points that might be a little

1087
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,880
low. I think he can get
a lot more than that, but bottom

1088
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,720
six forward with average bash most likely
tier tier three average player will have to

1089
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,800
work on defense, hits some blocks
to be a regular player stylistic comparable,

1090
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:27,760
he says Darren Darren Helm without as
much speed, and a good bottom six

1091
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,840
forward needs to work on defense,
is what Tony says. So again,

1092
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,319
these are some of the concerns.
I mean, we see the production,

1093
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:38,439
but also the question is how high
is the ceiling for Lucas Richele. I

1094
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:42,560
definitely think that he's someone who I'm
a little bit more excited about than I

1095
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,600
was last year seeing what he's done
at the HL and now a little bit

1096
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,880
at the NHL level, But I
still have those concerns of like, Okay,

1097
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,840
how high can he go? Because
even Ben mentioned him being a sixty

1098
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:57,079
to seventy point guy might be the
high water mark for him, and I

1099
01:20:57,119 --> 01:21:02,000
think that that's probably accurate. So
anyways, looking at comps for a Richle,

1100
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:10,319
we have NHL Rankking Mason pitting Ricle
against Cutter Gautier, and so Gautier,

1101
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:14,520
one of the NTDP guys from last
year, ended up being the highest

1102
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,720
drafted fifth overall by the Flyers.
He had a pretty nice transition to Boston

1103
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:23,239
College this year with thirty seven points
in thirty two games, really nice freshman

1104
01:21:23,319 --> 01:21:28,039
season. His pH LE is up
to sixty nine percent, and Richele with

1105
01:21:28,119 --> 01:21:31,479
his HL time has a sixty two
pH L and with his NHL time has

1106
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,840
a sixty seven p LE. So
in that's sixty to seventy point range,

1107
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:43,960
so pretty similar to Gautier. Richel
has increased his NHL star potential on hockey

1108
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,560
prospecting up to a fifty six percent
with a really strong season. That's this

1109
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:54,359
equivalence he is based on his NHL
time, and Gautier is keeping pretty steady,

1110
01:21:54,359 --> 01:21:57,079
went up just a tiny bed from
twenty five to twenty six percent star

1111
01:21:57,159 --> 01:22:02,720
potential with his NC double a season. The people like Gotier here sixty five

1112
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:08,479
percent to thirty five percent. All
of these Chicago ones are pretty clear,

1113
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,479
Jesse, and I don't know if
it's as clear to you, but the

1114
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,119
people like Lucas Rachel here pretty handily. What about you, ye? First

1115
01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:20,840
of all, I find this incredibly
depressing that we literally let off the episode

1116
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:27,159
with Lucas Reichel is like the top
guy in the pros and not only not

1117
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:30,279
only does he make the minor section, but he's the third guy in a

1118
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:32,800
minor section to keep your eye on. I will take Lucas Reichel here.

1119
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,119
Look, he's produced in the pros
Cutter. Gautier was great in the World

1120
01:22:36,199 --> 01:22:42,079
Juniors, he was great at Boston
College this here, But I like Lucas

1121
01:22:42,079 --> 01:22:46,199
Reichel better than him. How about
you, Victor, Yeah, I mean

1122
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:51,640
I definitely agree Rachael here. I
was never really a huge believer in Gotia.

1123
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,319
I thought that that was a little
rich picking him at fifth overall.

1124
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,399
I think we talked about that in
last year's draft series. I still think

1125
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,920
can be a good player, but
I'm just yeah, he needs to prove

1126
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,119
it a lot more. I like
how close Ricle is. I mean,

1127
01:23:06,199 --> 01:23:14,520
Rachael is basically now ready. He's
someone who can who can It's really just

1128
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,159
going to depend on the cast around
him, as we've talked about all season,

1129
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:21,239
all episode. But I really think
that he has a high floor.

1130
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,720
He isn't NHLer. He has a
lot of tools that maybe he can refine

1131
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,359
a little bit. I don't think
he's in point per game guy, but

1132
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,399
I definitely I like his floor with
upside for more, and that's why I

1133
01:23:31,399 --> 01:23:35,920
would definitely take Lucas Racle. All
right, so there's more guys that we

1134
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,680
could talk about, but there's not
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1135
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1136
01:23:44,039 --> 01:23:46,079
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1137
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1138
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1139
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,560
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1140
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:10,840
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1141
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1169
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1170
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