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It's time for coffee and company fueled
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Now here's Nick coffee. All right, let's get it started. The five

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o'clock hour here on a Wednesday afternoon
coffee and company fueled by Thornton's here on

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Sports Talk seven ninety one. More
hour for me and then I'm out of

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here for a long derby weekend.
But we're gonna finish strong here and keep

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this thing rolling along. We're gonna
talk to Jeff Greer in just a second,

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but before we do that, just
an update for those of you that

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maybe are just now ending your workday
and wanting to be caught up on the

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latest with the transfer portal. Kentucky
has added a couple of players today.

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Kobe Brea, the transfer from Dayton, did pick Kentucky following his visit.

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And also a guy that I didn't
even know was considering Kentucky has committed,

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and that's Kerr Crisa. Chrisa from
Arizona and West Virginia, most recently played

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at West Virginia. But he's a
point guard, good point guard too,

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you know, not a guy that
I would you know, he's not a

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guy that I think completely changes your
expectations. But he's a he's a good

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player for sure, and there's no
doubt that Kentucky has completely changed their situation.

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The last week, I knew Mark
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but a week ago, I think
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was just to Mari Amuri Williams.
And now they've added you know, probably

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five or six ince then, so
on the Louisville side, they've already got

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eight players. I don't want to
say things have slowed down to like insinuate

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that you know, they're no longer
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we speak, Great Osibor the Utah
State transfer, he is on campan I

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say on campus. He may I'll
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I don't know, but he's His
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speak and will go on. I
believe until Friday. I could be wrong.

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Maybe it's tomorrow that it ends.
But he's no longer going to consider

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Kentucky because of their situation. And
we know he's going to go to Texas

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Tech and take a visit there,
and he will go to Washington to visit

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his former coach Danny Sprinkle, who
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for him would be to follow Danny
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Montana State to wash to Utah State. But he is going through visits and

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I don't know, maybe Louisville can
really sell him on the role for him

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here in Pat Kelsey's offense. And
it doesn't get any better than having a

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big time visitor who I believe is
the only recruit visiting during derby week,

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Like this is what you want?
So I don't want to put pressure on

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Pat Kelsey because again I think it
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Sprinkle once again, I mean,
I don't really know if that's anything you

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could have changed. And what I
don't know is and maybe Jeff Geer knows

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this, He's going to join us
in just a second. But like,

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are these guys getting paid for visits? Apparently high school kids, some of

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them are getting paid just to take
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high school kids because they've proven what
they can do. I mean, these

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agencies, and I believe OSABOR is
represented by a real agency, not you

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know, one of these twenty three
year olds who got a sports management degree

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and you know, hit up players
on Twitter DMS and said they want to

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represent him through NIL. He has
a real agent, so maybe they are

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getting paid for visits. I don't
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a massive addition. But by all
accounts, he's going to take every visit

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and then make a decision. So
even if his visit goes really well,

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we'll probably have to wait and figure
out if it was good enough for him

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to pull the trigger and hopefully pick
Louisville. All right, let's bring him

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in. He's mister Jeff Greer.
Jeff, how are we doing, sir?

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I'm wonderful. Nick. How are
you, buddy? I'm doing well.

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You are a transplant and you've made
Louisville your home. We've discussed it

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in recent weeks. What was your
first impression of being in Louisville for the

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Kentucky Derby? Well? I really
had not been an in retrospect. This

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will show you my true personality.
I blame everybody else for this other than

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myself. Nobody coached me up on
what Derby was, so really I didn't

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know, like yeah, like you
would think you know at the newspaper.

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They've got you, They've got you
out at the track every day, and

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you know you've got to you know, you've got your Oaks and your Derby

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Day assignments and all that. You
would think that some of the veterans at

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the newspaper would have told the poor
guy who had just moved to Louisville,

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like, Hey, you need to
get a nice suit, you need to

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dress up and all of this stuff. And so I wore and this is

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actually probably right. You're gonna make
fun of me about this and laugh,

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but I swear, Nick, I
wore a sweater to oaks. Yeah,

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that doesn't that doesn't fit. They
didn't. It just doesn't. It doesn't

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make sense. No, And it
was like eighty degrees out. I mean,

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it was just like it was a
it was a disaster. So that

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was my first experience, but I
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I know how I'm supposed to act
during the two weeks leading up to So

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I'm somebody who's lived here my whole
life, and I know I'm not the

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only one with his opinion, but
you know, it's it's I'm probably I

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think I'm in the minority. I
don't think the city of Louisville is that

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much exposed to the sport of horse
racing. Like a lot of people here,

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I think, love everything that comes
with Derby. You know, it's

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a big event. It's it's where
the spotlight is on this city more than

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it is any other day of the
year. Uh. And you know,

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I'm comfortable enough now to just accept
that I'm never going to really care that

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much about the sport, but I
love everything that comes with it. And

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as we get closer to the actual
race, I'll pick a horse and I'm

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certainly going to watch the race itself. But I think that's what you know,

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I don't know, have you gotten
into horse racing? I know,

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did you did some Derby coverage during
your time, I know when you were

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with the CJ. But I you
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people, you know, are afraid
to acknowledge that because it's it's look,

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it's it's what we It's it's our
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Like that's what people know Louisville for
is having the Kentucky area, but

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at least one of the main things. But I just I don't think we're

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a big horse racing city. As
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think that's it's actually actually more in
Lexing than to be honest with you,

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Yeah, no, I agree,
And look, I think it's what I

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like in it too, And I'm
sure others have made this comparison many times.

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But it's a lot like March madness, where you know, you get

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to March and you've got all these
people picking brackets, and you know,

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in my office obviously there's a lot
of people from different walks of life and

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not from around here, and I
just like, I just look at their

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brackets and I'm annoyed. I'm just
like, you have no idea what you're

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talking about. You are picking these
based on colors or mascots or or you

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know, reputations of schools that are, you know, twenty years old.

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That you've got these thoughts about these
programs and it annoys me. And then

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of course they win the pool.
So you know, it's the same with

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the Derby. And I know that
there are a thousand people out there in

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Louisville, you know, maybe more
who are just like really really deeply invested

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into this and they know, you
know, what these different times are and

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how people run on grass versus dirt
and all the I mean, what the

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racing surface was like and that kind
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me who are like, oh yeah, I like that horse's name or it's

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a gray horse. I'm a bit
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the same thing, right, Yeah, And I think my favorite part of

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Derby, as far as the actual
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learning about the story. Maybe sometimes
it's it's a cool story about how it

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developed the name, or maybe the
owner who you know, really kind of

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a rags to richest situation to where
you know, they grinded it out blue

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collar and really became successful in business
and now they own a bunch of horses

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and those are stories that interest me. But yeah, it's it's it's a

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great event. And you know,
every and not every city, but most

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cities probably have one event that like, you know, people know that city

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for in Derby is is is that
for us? And I'm certainly biased,

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but I feel like we always do
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part to make sure people love it
when they're here and they keep coming back.

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Who's the most random celebrity you've ever
seen in town for Derby if there's

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any, because I've got some good
responses so far on the show today.

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But if you ever have you run
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you thought, what the hell is
you know, I remember that guy from

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you know, Seinfeld or something like
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I always go back to Joey Fatoad. Oh yeah, I'm just like,

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you know, look, the older
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great boy band music of the nineties
and early two thousands. I think it's

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I mean, it's just good pop
music, right, everybody good carry out

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Thomas. It's not my choice,
but it's entertaining. Yeah, and you

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know I I but yeah, he's
he's pretty high up their list. But

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look, I mean we could probably
do this for an hour with It just

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feels like this event brings out a
lot of people, and I would say

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a very small percentage of them are
as exactly, and they're like they fly

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in the morning of or the night
before, and everybody else is You're just

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kind of like, oh yeah,
I remember that guy from like fifteen years

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ago. That that's kind of the
vibe that I get yeah, and some

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of these people, you know,
they they're their heyday was, you know,

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decades ago. So they may not
be flying in they can't afford it.

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They're probably driving in. You know, they're they're they're they're they're traveling

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on a budget because they're probably doing
doing okay. But you know it's not

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it's not like they're still raking in
the millions. But I have a I

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think Joey Fatone is the perfect example
of a guy who, at one point,

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whenever in sync, was still really
really relevant. Uh. He was

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invited to the Barnstable Party, that
of course is the most I think it's

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the longest standing celebrity derby party,
and he's just continued to send an RSVP

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every year to see if they'll tell
him like no, because like he's on

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this list with you know, Tracy
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Jack Harlow, Boys to Men and
you know some real notable celebrities, and

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you see Joey Fatone and it's like, yeah, he took advantage of the

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invite he got in nineteen ninety nine
and he's been coming ever since. So

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you know, somebody nicked somebody.
Somebody needs to just tell him it's gonna

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be not just say just do not, do not come to our event.

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I actually forgot. I got another
one for you, Brett b. Lama,

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Oh, that's a good one.
Forget. He was just like randomly

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walking into the to that big room
upstairs where you can where it's got like

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the streaming of all of the races. I bet he has a presence about

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him. Yeah, you could tell
it was him right away. He had

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an army around him. It was
It's pretty funny. Yeah, I talked

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about this earlier in the week.
Avery Johnson. I don't know he's ever

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missed a Derby. I remember as
a kid getting the you know, as

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a kid, I would get the
Courier Journal for the Internet, and it

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is rare. That's why it's perfect. So there was a there was a

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you know right after I think that
Duncan and Robinson and those guys, you

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know, and Avery Johnson won with
one the title with the Spurs. There

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was a picture in the sports section
of Avery Johnson there like cheering on a

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horse and I remember thinking like,
that's super random. Why is he at

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the derby? And then my dad
was like, well, you know a

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lot of celebrities and athletes come to
the derby. Well, sure enough.

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My first derby I ever attended,
first person I saw that I recognized was

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Avery Johnson. And then I've asked
people this week of the same question and

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everybody somebody just tweeted in a picture
then with Avery Johnson. So I guess

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he's he's a regular and he is
it. He is he not the perfect

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level of random, Yes, that
is that is exactly who I would think

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of when when you would think of
like a pretty decent athlete, but not

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like a and I know he's done
some TV and he was a coach and

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stuff, but like, that is
a great example. It honestly is almost

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like that game that has kind of
floated around the Internet in the past couple

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of months of like, you know, just dudes will sit around, Oh

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yeah, random athletes and we will. That's almost like the list of people

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at the parties this week. Yeah, somebody earlier mentioned they saw Matt Geiger

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in the infield, and I'm like, man, that that hits like,

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isn't that perfect? Not only because
it's Matt Geiger, a random white dude

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for the Sixers in the nineties,
but he looks like an infield guy.

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Yes, that's true, that's perfect. So there's a lot of both Racing

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lou and LUCITYFC. There's a lot
of a lot of players that are that

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are on the roster that are not
from Louisville. Have you gotten much feedback

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from from you know, those who
have experienced Derby for the first time or

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it would be last year, many
years ago, because I would imagine that

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is one of the attractions of making
Louisville your home when you're you're professional soccer

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players that you know Derby's here,
and you know, I imagine you know,

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these players probably get taken taken care
of throughout the week and at the

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Derby. Yeah. Well, I
know from on the racing side, I

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sit in on a lot of the
recruitment calls with with potential signings, and

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we we talk a lot about it. I mean, we talk about the

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city in general, and you know, it's a it's like a PowerPoint presentation

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I actually put it together, but
nice I talk a lot about I talk

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a lot about Derby. And you
know, one of the funny things that

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I always try to make sure that
I mentioned is, you know, this

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is such a great food city and
I know people here know, and you

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know, it's one of those things
where people from elsewhere in the country they're

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not going to know. Hey,
you know, we've got the third highest

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number of restaurants per capita. And
that was a fact that I was told

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ten years ago. So I have
no clue if it's still true, but

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it sounds great on a recruiting call. And you know what I always say

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is, we've got two weeks out
of the year, really one week out

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of the year when we've got you
know, an extra one hundred and fifty

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two hundred thousand people in the city
who want to have nice meals and they

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want to have a big Derby meal, and those places all get reservations filled

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up well in advance. Well,
those restaurants need other customers the other fifty

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weeks out of the year, and
the rest of us get to reap the

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benefits of those great restaurants. And
you you know, we could go down

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the list of all the places that
have become well known to Derby goers and

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they, you know, like jack
Fries and places like that, they're opening

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year round for the rest of us
to enjoy. So we always talk about

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that with our players and and but
no, they love they love the Derby.

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They love you know, how the
city livens up, and it really

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feels like kind of the perfect wedge
event between the start of spring and really

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kind of getting into true warmer weather, and it's just fun to see them

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get all dressed up. Last year
we had thanks to our wonderful friends at

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Churchill Downs, we ended up with
a suite nice and we were able to

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get a bunch of players out and
staff out and they had so much fun.

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So yeah, it's a great,
great event, and I know that

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they thoroughly enjoy being around town this
week while everybody's all dressed up and having

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a good time. Well, last
time we talked, I mean this that

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that ended up being the first time
I called my shot when it comes to

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a soccer match, and I was
correct because I told you the Utah Royals

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they didn't know what they had coming. I mean it was it was going

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to be a bad day for the
Utah Royals and that's exactly what happened,

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a five to one victory for racing. And then they follow that up with

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with the draw in New York and
now they're heading to Orlando. I believe

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on Sunday, how we feeling.
I mean, I think that that was

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I believe wasn't that a record for
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against Utah? I mean, there's
a momentum here, right, Yeah it

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was, Yeah, it was,
it was. It was a good old

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fashion pulverizing. It was kind of
like you know, if you I always

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every every every comparison I make is
to college basketball, and I'm sorry,

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that's just the way I'm wired.
It's just, you know, a team

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that's expecting to be pretty good.
There may be like a like a number

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twenty top twenty five back into the
top twenty five team, but they're expected

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to be solid the good this year. And that's I feel like where Racing

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is. We're expected to be good, We're expected to be a playoff team,

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and you just needed a game to
just absolutely wail on, you know,

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a small school that comes and plays
a guarantee game, and that's exactly

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what happened. With all due respect
to Utah, they're an expansion team.

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Uh, they're kind of learning their
way through the league. Their roster will

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obviously need to be enhanced through the
course of this season and into the offseason.

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And we just blasted them. So
it was a lot of fun to

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watch, and it was in front
of a record crowd with the with the

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planes flying over for thunder, and
Yeah, feeling really really good about that.

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And we took that momentum on the
road and got a pretty good result

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in a crazy game against the league's
reigning champions this past weekend in New York

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City. So the vibes are high, and I think we're feeling pretty good

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entering the summer. Yeah, with
that five to one beat down along with

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the fireworks and and and you know, jets flying that that that club's gonna

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have PTSD when they think about Louisville
now. And that's the way, that's

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the way we want it. I
know, there's soccer is a classy sport,

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and you know we're all about sportsmanship, but you know, sometimes you

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need to give the beat down like
they did, and and and clearly it

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was as you mentioned, it was
something needed for the for the club,

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and the momentum is is certainly there. All right, Jeff, Before we

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let you get out of here,
I want to ask you this. So

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Pat Kelsey's hosting right now, Great
O's the Utah State Transfer I think it

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works out perfect to show him Louisville
and everything the city offers during Derby week.

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Uh, but let's say you were
tasked. Pat Kelsey picks up the

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phone, He calls Jeff Brees says, look, uh, give me an

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itinerary. Let's say you got a
full day with great acibor what are you?

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What do you squeeze it in?
Right? What are you? What

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are you making sure he's able to
experience and see before he, you know,

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gets out of here and hopefully makes
the decision to commit to Louisville.

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Well, Okay, I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be annoying for a second because

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I would I would say, as
soon as I knew that he was visiting,

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I would probably spend at least a
couple hours reading stories about him,

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getting his bios from different places,
looking at a social media and figuring out,

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okay, what's the vibe here?
Because you know, there's some guys

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who would say, you know,
they've got a reverence for for history and

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and all that stuff. So I
probably would take somebody like that to the

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Ali Center, right and show them
the coultree of the ratest and and and

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show them you know, there's a
lot of Louisville Pride in the Ali Center,

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so you might start to start the
day there and just say, hey,

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the most famous athlete ever at least
one of a very very short lists,

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is from here. So I'd probably
want to throw that in there if

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they were interested in that. But
if they weren't, I mean, look,

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you know, you've got all these
places. I would take them to

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a nice steak dinner at Jack Fries
or maybe Jeff Rubies, I know is

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really good. Downtown Leamu is really
good. I want to make sure that

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they had a really nice experience there. And then yeah, I mean I

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think this week you have to take
them to the track, right, Are

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there any rules? Oh yeah,
taking a recruit to the track? No,

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I mean I would I would assume
not. I know Mark Pop has

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taken some guys to Keenland, so
I'm assuming it's it's fair game. Yeah,

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yeah, you got to take them
to the track. And then you

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know, again, I think for
for for me. You know, if

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this guy just happens to be a
baseball fan, well you've got the freaking

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Slugger Museum right here in town.
You got to take him to the Slugger

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Museum show off. I mean,
that's a cool little trip right downtown.

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But yeah, I just I think
Louisville has so many fun things to offer,

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and I think the best part about
it is right now to be here,

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So I would if I'm a coach, I'm pretty happy that I get

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a chance to have somebody come in
for an official visit and giving the Derby

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festivities. And you know what makes
it great is that I believe today would

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be the day, or maybe tomorrow
at the track. I think his visit

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may end tomorrow night or maybe on
Friday. But because there's so much excitement

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in buzz with Louisville's fan base right
now, just because of the new era

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that is Pat Kelsey, and everybody's
just you know, hyper focused on seeing

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who ends up joining the roster.
There's a really good chance for a chunk

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of the crowd today and tomorrow to
be Louisville people, and they're going to

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know who he is. They're going
to see Pat Kelcey, and like,

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I can't think of a better scenario
to have him out and about in Louisville

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where he will feel the love from
fans like it. You know, here,

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I am once again feeling sounds.
It sounds like I'm add in pressure

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for Pat Kelsey and I don't want
to do that. But it is a

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perfect scenario, right, I think
you've got you've got it. You got

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it lined up here to really showcase
what Louisville can do. And you know

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he clearly would have a big role
here with this team. And you know,

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fingers crossed, have you picked a
Derby horse? Shyet? No,

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I'm waiting me either. I'm waiting
to see what some of the people who

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seem to know what they're talking about
are going to say. But I've heard

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Sierra Leone is kind of a big
name. But people don't like the post

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position, and that's as look at
you dropping knowledge here Derby one fifty.

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I like it just enough to be
dangerous. Greer, I like it.

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I like it up. Yeah,
you know, let's just say you're you're

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around somebody, you know at the
airport. They think they're going to hear

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that, Oh this guy knows what
he's talking about. I'm gonna ask him

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what what Horace? I want to
bet on? So well, Gert,

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I appreciate the time as always,
enjoy the rest of Derby Week. And

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we will talk soon, my friend. All right, thanks Nick, I

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appreciate you. Take care of that
is Jeff Greer always appreciate his time.

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Good stuff. All right, Uh, let's get out of here for a

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break. We'll come back, keep
this thing rolling along. A couple things

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I want to get to before we
run out of time today. Have you

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guys seen what Deon Sanders and his
sons are doing on social media? I

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mean just completely. I feel like
an old prude because I know Dion's the

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cool guy, but like just lame
stuff with former players who left Colorado because

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they were essentially booted. It's just
it's lame. But I know Dion can

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do go wrong in the eyes of
some and you know, if you if

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you have any criticism, you're just
a hater because he's prime, he's the

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man. And coaches calling out other
coaches for tampering without putting a name on

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it. That's actually even more lame, to be honest with you. So

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we'll finish strong here. Keep you
updated if there's any developments on these visits,

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the portal, all that kind of
stuff. So stick with us right

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here. It's Coffee and Company.
Philbth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety So

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have you followed it all, the
Dion Sanders and his son situation and all,

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do you even know what I'm talking
about? One thing I've seen is

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people just going at Colorado on Twitter, that kind of thing. So Max

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Olsen for The Athletic did a story
on former players that were essentially, you

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know, told to leave Colorado when
Dion got there, and there were some

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players that took that as a challenge
and wanted to prove that they could play

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they and they belonged, and you
know, a couple of them shared how

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it was really, you know,
just infuriating situation because they weren't even really

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given the option to do that.
You know, they were you know,

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Deon Sanders never even took the chance
to like talk with them and get to

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know them and you know, try
to run them off. And to be

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fair, that does kind of happen, you know, unfortunately, it just

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you know, it does. I
think most coaches will be professional and direct

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to where it's not an insulting thing, because I think some players could take

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the insulting thing and look at it
as if you're being challenged, look at

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it as if you're you're seeing what
you're made of, because what de and

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look, it happens, meaning like
coaches will run players off, and you

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know, in their own way.
I think nobody would do it the way

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Dion did it. But I mean
a lot of guys will just make it

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clear. Look, with all due
respect, I just you know, I'm

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gonna go in a different direction here, and you know, I think it'd

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be best for both sides if you
looked elsewhere, just because of you know,

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the changes that are that are happening
here. And a lot of guys

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will read the room and leave.
But Deon Sanders replacing fifty three players in

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one off season is not normal.
Like again, players kind of get shown

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the door in the nicest way possible. And usually both sides at that point

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maybe aren't best of friends, but
they're you know, it's a respectful thing,

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right, like you get it.
Rarely is somebody going to be shown

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the door or without them having some
awareness that they're probably not doing well there

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and they're probably not prioritized. So
it happens. But again, what Dion

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did is unprecedented. And some of
these players that have talked about this just

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mention, you know how they never
even got a chance to show what they

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could do, and that's led to
Colorado players, mostly Dion and his two

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sons like sharing stats of these players
and you know, saying things like I

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don't even remember this bum. He
must have been ass like just being a

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jerk. I mean, that's just
being a jerk. Like that's just being

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an absolute ahole. And it's one
thing for players to do it because you

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know they're college kids, but just
still don't think that's an excuse. But

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at least you know that that's not
a crazy thing to see. But you

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know, Dion encouraging it and joining
in on it is just it's weak.

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It's weak. And Deon Sanders is
one of those guys that like, I

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don't really care if he wins or
loses. I kind of don't even really

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want to even like he's gonna move
the needle for college football. He already

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has, but he's become the TMZ
of college football, like Lebron James is

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in the NBA. That's how polarizing, that's how that's how much presence that

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someone like Deon Sanders has in the
college game. So they could go three

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to nine again next year, they're
still gonna get talked about a lot because

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that's just what they do. Well
they win. I don't know, wouldn't

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be shocked if they think, again, they weren't good last year, right,

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So, I mean Deon Sanders said
after this past year where they were

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very underwhelming, and that's another thing. They talk and carry themselves as if

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they are coming off of back to
back Super Bowls when they really haven't accomplished

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anything. But it's all flash.
It's all it's all flash and sizzle,

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results substance. They've done nothing,
nothing, and they'll continue to act that

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way even if they don't have any
results. And I know people are like,

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oh, you're just a hater of
No. Deon Sanders did not win

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many games last year. Maybe he
breaks out this year and they have a

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great year. But even if he
doesn't and they stink, they'll still be

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covered. They'll still be cocky,
and that's just what they're gonna do.

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Like he said after they were bad
in his first year that he had some

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very big statement about the playoff like
that, not only is that the expectation,

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00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.920
it's gonna be the standard, We're
gonna be there, you know,

408
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:44.799
and most coaches wouldn't say that,
but Dion can say it and fall miles

409
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.160
short of it, and he'll he'll
it'll just be Deon be and Dion.

410
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:53.359
Deon's saying Deon stuff. And is
it good for college football? A lot

411
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.559
of people think it is because of
the presence and the eyeballs he brings,

412
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.039
and that is a good thing.
But I feel like the college game has

413
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.200
always been able. We've always been
able to avoid this. And what I

414
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:08.279
mean by that is when you know, like you're not relevant. I mean,

415
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.400
if you're not good, you're not
relevant, like and they're gonna be

416
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.920
relevant, They're gonna be a main
And here's another it's such a I mean

417
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.640
the numbers in in the views or
whatever, and however it's judged, it's

418
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.440
there because of Dion. So you
know this, at the end of the

419
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.880
day, sports media, sports and
it's entertainment. It's a business. So

420
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:33.440
you're going to talk a lot about
the teams, coaches, players that that

421
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.519
get more people interested in listening to
you. That's why Lebron James has talked

422
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.720
about at least once every ten minutes
on ESPN, regardless of what the show

423
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:45.839
is. These areas, that's that's
in the pros. You get it like

424
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.440
the Yankees. The Yankees can stink, but they're always going to be talked

425
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.839
about. In the NFL, I
kind of feel like it's there's not really

426
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.759
been that, like there's actually been
I think a good level of you know,

427
00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.480
balance. And right now it's the
Chiefs. It's Kelsey and Mahomes and

428
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.759
Andy Reeby. You know why,
because they're in the midst of a potential

429
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:11.599
dynasty. So when you add Taylor
Swift to the mix, I mean it,

430
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.000
you know, there's results there that
led to them being this larger than

431
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:19.039
life talking point within the NFL.
And in Kyle I mean in basketball,

432
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:23.279
I mean you kind of just fade
away if you're not you know, if

433
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:30.279
you're not winning at a eye level, and if you are a big brand,

434
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.519
a blue blood, you'll get your
you'll get your fair share of criticism,

435
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.640
You'll be talked about a lot because
you're not what you once were or

436
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.720
you're having a couple of bad years. But then you just kind of,

437
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.400
you know, fade away to not
exist. But you're just you're not you're

438
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:48.599
not leading sports center because you're lost
again. Right and with Dion, maybe

439
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:51.759
they are good and then it'll be
justified. But they're going to get a

440
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.119
level of coverage that I get because
again, I understand how this works.

441
00:28:55.160 --> 00:29:02.079
It's a business you're going to talk
about and you know, highlight profile what

442
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.680
gets people more inclined to listen and
watch, and he does that, so

443
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:11.559
credit to him. But it's gonna
exist regardless if they're good or not.

444
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.960
And it's not like I'm you know, a prude. You know, it's

445
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.079
not like I you know, I'm
not. I'm not somebody that you know,

446
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:23.279
thinks that you can't have personality and
have flair. I just usually it's

447
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:27.079
usually it's something that there's there's a
give and take, right Like, if

448
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.440
you're gonna be super cocky and arrogant, you better back it up. Deon

449
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.720
didn't have to back it up because
he'll just talk and everybody's gonna watch.

450
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:37.839
Am I making sense here, Johan, Like, I know it sound like

451
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:45.519
a hater of Dion, but I
just it's just that, I mean,

452
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.839
I mean, they were an interesting
story at the beginning of last year because

453
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.480
they upset TCU. We didn't realize
how bad TCU was at the time.

454
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.440
They won two or three games to
open their season and it was new and

455
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:59.400
then they got hammered by Oregon.
They were still relevant for a little while,

456
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.599
but I do remember towards the back
half of the season. Maybe it's

457
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.880
just because they didn't have anything,
Like Dion wasn't saying much himself, but

458
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:12.119
it just seemed like they did shift
away from the Colorado narrative after there really

459
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:17.720
wasn't anything going on. But if
there is something going on with Colorado that

460
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.680
some might deem newsworthy, they're going
to talk about it. I get what

461
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.200
you're saying. Yeah, and look
he did, I mean, he did

462
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.519
daddy ball for those who don't know
what I mean. He got involved because

463
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.160
like they went four to eight last
year, not three or nine, and

464
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.839
he got a mac coach to leave
his head coaching spot. I think it

465
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:34.839
might have been at Toledo or Kent
State, and he came there to call

466
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:41.319
plays for Dion Big and the offense
was phenomenal. The defense stunk, and

467
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.279
you know, instead of Dion looking
in the mirror as the head coach and

468
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.160
maybe addressing defense, you know,
he didn't like how his son was being

469
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.400
used, yet the offense was fine, So he demoted the OC that left

470
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.960
his job as a head coach.
He demoted him from play calling and that

471
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.680
guy, now I believe is the
head coach at San Diego State. It's

472
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.440
like Dion does things that like that
that would be a fool that would be

473
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.680
criticized, that'd be something that would
be looked at as a foolish thing.

474
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.240
And like this guy is, you
know, he's not really leading his team.

475
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.559
He's not worried about what's best for
the team. He's literally just worried

476
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.440
about his son's stats and stuff like
that's what he did. But yet he's

477
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.640
such a larger than life presence that
he's just going to talk and say Dion

478
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:19.759
stuff and it's going to be the
only thing people run with. And it's

479
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.480
just going to annoy me because it's
going to be in our face a lot.

480
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.200
And it's fine if it's in our
face if they're good. But they

481
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.319
haven't been good yet. They lost
their last six games of the season,

482
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:36.240
so we'll see, we shall see. And I love this last night because

483
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:41.039
again like these you know, these
the Sanders, Dion's kids. They've got

484
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.160
you know, a lot of followers
on social media, so does Dion.

485
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.039
And there's a guy Utep who left
Colorado. Then they're just bagging on him.

486
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.599
Because he said in this interview that
you know, he felt like here's

487
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:56.160
what he's here's here's his quote.
This is Xavier Smith on Deon Sanders.

488
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.920
It's like you never even tried to
get to know me. He was just

489
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.519
throwing guy's confidence, well his son. I mean that that's that's not like

490
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.599
a personal shot. That's just telling
your side of the story. You were

491
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.480
answering a question in an interview that
was used for a story. Well,

492
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:16.799
shandor Sanders just comes out. I
won't even I don't even remember him tbh.

493
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.640
Bro had to be very mid at
best. So then that just lead

494
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.160
to like everybody else clowning this dude
who's just moved on to it to an

495
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.240
FCF school, living in his own
I mean he didn't, he didn't take

496
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.400
to social media. He was asked
to be part of the story. So

497
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.400
this guy is now at UTEP.
He was at Austin p initially. Now

498
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.319
he's at UTEP and his coach,
you know, and I love this.

499
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.279
Maybe it's maybe I'm just a sucker
for maybe something corny like this if you

500
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.599
think it's corny, But like his
coach took to social media and was like,

501
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.640
you know, he's furthest He's the
furthest thing from mid He's a hell

502
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.799
of a player, was a freshman
All American for me at Austin p We

503
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.839
were glad. I was glad to
get him back when I took the job

504
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.759
with UTEP. Works his ass offt
He's tough as can be, like,

505
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.440
you know, like coach shouldn't have
to do that. But when the entire

506
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:07.960
internet is just you know, gargling
the you know what of Dion Sanders and

507
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.000
his kids, Like I would stick
up from my player too, like he

508
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.119
didn't. He didn't, he wouldn't
trying to pick a fight. He was

509
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.480
asked in an interview by The Athletic
about the situation, gave an honest answer,

510
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.359
and you know, these child I
mean, it's just childish. Man.

511
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.119
I feel like such a prude because
the more I talk about it,

512
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.400
the more I'm realizing, like it
just works me up. But like it's

513
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.799
just sports needs a circus every now
and then because at the end of the

514
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.319
day, it's entertainment. But I
guess I just don't find d On that

515
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.839
entertaining. And it's then when the
joke or the entertainment is at somebody else's

516
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:44.440
expense. Especially when it doesn't seem
like it's it's true necessarily against it's not

517
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.759
right. They carry themselves and talk
as if they've accomplished something when in fact

518
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.640
they suck. It's the kind of
stuff that makes you want Colorado to go

519
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:52.400
oh in twelve next year. Yeah, I mean, let me let me

520
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:53.920
find this real quick. I know
we got to get a break and I

521
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.240
gotta do a read. But what's
the name of Dan Lanning? Do you

522
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.599
that's the name? Do you remember
what he said at before they played?

523
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.000
Uh? Before they played last year? I don't remember the quote. No,

524
00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:10.840
oh it was it was perfect,
play it real quick here. This

525
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.760
is because again there was a lot
of hype, you know, Colorado talking

526
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.039
all kinds of junk before the game, and they got killed. This was

527
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:22.360
Dan Lenning to his team before that
game was played. And of course it's

528
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.639
you know, it's not playing,
which is great. It's come on,

529
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.400
computer's just doing No, it's it's
given me the media can't play. So

530
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.000
I think it's Twitter doing what it
you know, what it wants to do.

531
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.960
Uh yeah, son of a buck. And again I can't just let

532
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:38.920
it be. I got it,
and now it's on my mind. So

533
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.440
like, you know, we'll have
time if we want to come back to

534
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.280
it. Yeah, it's just driving
me crazy. All right, let's see

535
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:59.000
not flash is today we talk with
our pats right every moment. The Cinderella

536
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.440
story is over, man, Right, they're fighting for clicks, we're fighting

537
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.719
for wins. And there's a difference, right, there's a difference. This

538
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.239
game ain't gonna be playing in Hollywood. Is gonna be played on the grass,

539
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:14.920
or it's gonna be played on the
grass? Let's gone. I love

540
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.800
that. I love that and Matt
rule speech, which they're two totally different

541
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.239
subjects or some good ones from last
year. And I love that Oregon was

542
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.800
up thirty five to nothing in the
first quarter in that game. Love it

543
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five two, five, eight hundred. Quick break will come back and wrap

556
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it up on the other side.
All right, let's wrap it fire through

557
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.480
as many as these as we many
of these as we can do. You

558
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:22.480
know who Steven mL is no me
either. The name kind of looks familiar.

559
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.840
This is somebody, Okay, So
this guy, oh yeah, I

560
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:30.719
recognize him. He's an actor and
I'm looking at his face right now and

561
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.320
he's in something that I just that
I just watched. Yeah, there's a

562
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.480
show called Heels on Stars. It's
about wrestling, and he is the main

563
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.039
guy in that. I know.
I recognized the face from something recently.

564
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:46.159
He's going to be at the Barnstable
party. What about Demonte Adams don't know

565
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.719
football? Player. Come on,
Johnny, I mean sound like an athlete,

566
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.519
but I feel like I was gonna
be wrong. Randall Cobb wide receiver,

567
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.800
yep, Holly Robinson, Pete,
No, the name, can't figure

568
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.840
out? Okay, yeah, she's
she's an actress for you know, she's

569
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.320
been around a while. She's hanging
with mister Cooper. That's what I remember

570
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.559
her for. And I'm quite sure
you don't know who that is or what

571
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.719
that show is. Let's see Nappy
Roots, we know who that is.

572
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:17.039
How about how about Jordan Smith?
I know this is he? Did he

573
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.000
win the Voice American Idol? I
think yeah, I don't know if you

574
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.840
want it, but yes, he
is a Kentucky native who was on who

575
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.840
was on one of the It was
the Voice're right? It was the Voice

576
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.920
and he did win. He one
season nine. So there you go.

577
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:37.320
Everybody, have yourselves a great Derby
weekend Derby and Oaks as well. I'm

578
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.559
out tomorrow and on Friday, so
I'm back Monday. They're going to enjoy

579
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:44.719
the long weekend and you'll be in
good hands. I know. Tomorrow John's

580
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.159
anchoring the show with some with some
content, and then on Friday, the

581
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.440
one the only mister Scott Fitzgerald gonna
be hosting on Oaks Day, so again

582
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.920
you'll be in great hands. Hopefully
they let me come back. I mean

583
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.599
you guys, might you know he's
the man? I mean you too.

584
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.559
I mean, we give John the
Florida tomorrow, it may just become,

585
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.519
you know, the company man at
three every day. I don't know.

586
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.280
I mean, don't you know,
don't don't do, don't do too well.

587
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.679
I need I need my job.
I got kids to feed John.

588
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.760
All Right, everybody had a good
one. We'll talk to you. Well,

589
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:20.679
I'll talk to you Monday. M

