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It's time for coffee and company,
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day. Now here's nick coffee.
All right, let's just dive right in.

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Shall be five o'clock here on a
Tuesday, coffee and company fueled by

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Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety.
A lot to get to with just an

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hour left, so again we'll just
get right to it. For those of

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you that were still considering making the
trip at the end of the month of

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the Bahamas to see Pat Kelsey's first
team for the first time. In fact,

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it'll be your first chance to see
him coaching, So I don't know

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what kind of crowd they're expecting to
go. I would imagine, like if

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you have to pick one and you're
in you know, you know, you

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would be able to do both because
of schedule and being able to afford it.

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I would imagine the better trip would
be the Battle for Atlantis, which

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of course is induring Thanksgiving, because
those are real games and you know it's

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it's I mean, you're escaping cold
weather at that point. I guess if

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you're able to pull off both,
then shout out to you. But if

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you if you're still considering making the
trip here later this month. We now

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know when they're gonna play those two
games in the uh in the Baja Mar.

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What's it called the Baja Can they
go with the it's Baja Mar.

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It's the same place where they played
in that tournament a couple of years ago

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when they won the Baja Mar Classic. I think the Baja Bullies as they

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call themselves, and then went on
to you know, have a really bad

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year. But yeah, they're gonna
play Let's see, you just had it

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pulled up here. They're gonna play
a team from Canada, college team from

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Canada who has been on trips like
this before in previous years. I mentioned

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it earlier. The last trip they
went on, they played Yale twice and

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they played Wichita State twice and they
lost both of those games, which I

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think most would just expect them to
lose, but they were pretty competitive.

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And Yale never doesn't sound like a
juggernaut in college basketball, but they did

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just knock off a good Auburn team
in the first round of the tournament last

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year. So Louisville will play Tuesday, July the thirtieth at seven pm.

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That'll be against the Bahamas. That
is not the national team. I don't

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know who that's going to be,
but hopefully it's somebody that can give them,

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you know, somewhat of a not
a test, but just you know,

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I don't want to watch it.
If I even get to watch it,

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I doubt it's gonna be on TV. But it'll at least be worth

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a little more if you feel like
you're well aware you're not playing the type

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of competition you're gonna see like night
in and night out in the ACC,

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but you still are playing some dudes
who you know previously played in college or

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maybe you're currently playing professionally somewhere.
I have no clue what to expect from

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that team, so maybe we'll find
that a little bit more info as we

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get closer to that date. But
that'll be the first game and then they'll

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play the Calgary team at noon on
Thursday. So you know, if you

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want to, I don't know,
it's tough to get a I mean,

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to get it if you're in the
Louisville area. I mean, the flights

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are what's gonna get you, because
you're you're not getting a direct in Nassaul

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from here. But if you wanted
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You could you could realistically go Tuesday
bright and early and come home Thursday

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afternoon, and it's not you know, you're not there as long and you're

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not spending as much money at the
resort. But then again, you know,

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flights are probably what really makes it
expensive because again you're gonna have connecting

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flights, and you know, flights
aren't cheap. So again, if you're

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going, I'm envious. I shared
the story at the beginning of the show

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today that last week, you know, I'd mentioned I was kind of kicking

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the tires on the situation, knowing
well aware it's very unrealistic to go,

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just because it'd be tough to make
it work. Then you know, I

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got a I got a little bit
of a break. Somebody reached out to

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me, somebody I know relatively well
that that is going and is connected with

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U of L, and and uh, you know, they said, hey,

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look if you if you can get
there, I mean, I gotta,

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I gotta, I got, I
got, I got your room covered

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for the for the resort. And
I'm like, are you serious. He's

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like, yeah, like all right, well let me look into it.

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So sure enough, I'm looking into
it. Looking at flights, I found

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a scenario where I could drive up
to Indy and kind of fly out of

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their airport, make it work,
and it wouldn't be a crazy expense,

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and it would certainly be worth it
to me because you know, I want

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to see this team play. Man. I'm excited for this upcoming season,

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uh, and the chance to see
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not a real game. I mean, the Bahamas. There's worse places to

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be in late July, early August, but I mean, it's sincerely what

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would have me most excited to go
was to see this group in action.

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And just as soon as I kind
of thought, okay, maybe I can

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make this work. Let me just
make sure the passport's not expired, and

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then it hit me while looking for
said passport, realizing, oh, it

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doesn't matter, doesn't matter if the
passport's expired or not, because my annual

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vacation with my family to Destin,
Florida happens to be that same week,

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So you know, not going to
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it's okay. I'd rather be at
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I mean, that's it's all about
family time. I did entertain the thought

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of calling my wife on the air
and saying like, hey, honey,

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a little change of plans destin.
You guys are going to go just the

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three of you. You need some
alone time with the kids. I know

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you don't get that very often,
and you're just desperate for more of it.

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You're like, oh, you know, just all you want. So

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you enjoy the beach every day,
dealing with the kids, packing the cooler,

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carrying the chairs, you know,
dragging them in the sand, having

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to stop and put it all down
because one of the kids is screaming their

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lungs out. You do that,
you have that, that is what you

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deserve and want. And I'll just
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Thought of, you know, just
thought about doing that and realized that

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wouldn't That wouldn't work. I mean, she might get so angry if she's

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driving home from work now, and
she might wreck her car because just the

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thought of I mean, she knows
I wouldn't try to pull it off,

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but she probably laugh at me.
Actually, to be honest with you,

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that she probably wouldn't take you serious, just like whenever I went viral on

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TikTok for trying to put her in
her place. That reaction that that she

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gave me then is probably a similar
reaction that I would get if I tried

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to, you know, pull pull
something off like that. But going to

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the bars with the guys, Yeah, yeah, sometimes sometimes you just need

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to sit the f down, shut
the f up, and let me do

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my thing. I think that's word
for word what I said, but of

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course I didn't say f I said
those words. And you know, it

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was a it was a trend.
It was a trend on TikTok. People

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were doing it, and I thought, you know, what the hell with

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it, Let's just see what happens. And uh, I think it has

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like a million views or close to
it, which you know, I don't

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know if other I mean, I
don't say that to brag because I'll probably

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never have a video on TikTok that
does anything like that. But uh,

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the algorithm picked up on it,
and uh, and it became a thing.

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In fact, not even that long
ago had somebody come up to me

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that's been over. It's been well
over a year. It's like last it

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was no years ago. It was
November of twenty twenty two. Yeah.

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We weren't even working together yet,
were we. It was right before that

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and I had somebody come up we
hadn't seen it in a while, and

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was like, man, I gotta
tell you. When I saw that,

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I was a dog suited all my
friends. And I was like, well,

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I'm glad you. I'm glad you
got to laugh out of that,

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and it it would be fun to
try to recreate it again, but like

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I wouldn't she would know, right, I mean, it would be yeah,

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it'd be it would be something I
would make it. But it has

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been long enough to where if it
was different enough, you might be able

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to pull it off. That's true. And that because it was Thanksgiving week

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and that is a week where like
people who are my age do go out

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and taiwan on and have a night
because people are back in town visiting family

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and stuff. And I did actually
legitimately have a friend who who now lives

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in Seattle that was in town at
the time. You know, it was

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a little more like is he being
I mean, I think I think her

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first response was are you are you
effing with me? That's what it was.

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And that and that's when I said, sometimes you just need to sit

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there down, shut the f up, and let me do my thing.

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Uh. And then you know,
she laughed and I ran away. That's

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what happened. Uh. But if
I was to present this Bahamas situation like

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it would you know, she's she
knows that's not happening. I mean if

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in fact, she might be like, oh, yeah, well we'll see

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if you do that, well,
we'll see if that's what happens. Kind

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of threat kind of threaten me,
you know what I mean. Yeah,

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even if you pretended that you like
already booked the flight and everything, Oh,

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that would be worst case scenario because
do something like that because you don't.

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You don't even do those decisions on
your own. She books everything for

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you. Yeah, that's true.
So she couldn't. She wouldn't believe that

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that's true. Yeah. So anyways, if you're going have fun, enjoy

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the Bahamas. I've never been to
the Bahamas, but I'd love to go

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sometime. Could be a lot of
fun. I mean, Bahamas and basketball,

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Like that's the perfect scenario, because
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the beach is fine. Resorts are
fine, Like all inclusive resorts are

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a lot of fun. We do
that and it's always a great time and

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we enjoy it. But for me, it's not just because I'm in a

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tropical place like Cancun or Rivier AMAI
or something like that. It's I mean,

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the resorts are awesome, right,
and you get, you know,

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just all you can eat, all
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a nice place, get to meet
people. It's really I mean, it's

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a lot of fun. I enjoy
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I mean, I'm in heaven.
But again, it's nowhere near especial as

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my annual family vacation trip to Destin, Florida. And I say that sincerely,

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we're really looking forward to it,
all right, real quick. So

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the nc DOUABLEA, the future of
the NUAA has been discussed for a while

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now, meaning people have always asked, geez, I wonder if this thing

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it can survive. I mean,
they don't have a ton of resources.

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They've never seemed to have less respect
from college sports fans and seemingly even college

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you know administrations, now maybe not
all of them, but like this isn't

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new, meaning people questioning how long
the n DOUAA can survive, and you

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know, they have no plans to
close as of right now, despite a

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two point eight billion dollar settlement that
was recently announced. So if the NAA

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doesn't exist, it could be for
a variety of reasons. But I have

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a theory, a guess I should
say, as to what will actually end

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up killing the NCIDUA lay where they
don't have any money to operate, and

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I know that sounds crazy because you
know they have unlimited money seemingly just from

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the NS Doablea tournament every year.
I mean, and by the way,

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that is you know the I don't
know if you guys are savvy in the

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business world, like you can have
like your company name LLC, but then

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your DBA is doing business as the
NC Douablea. It's not an LLC,

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I don't think. But they should
DBA do business as it should be known

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for as doing business as the NC
double Tournament, because that's where their money

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comes from. I mean, that's
that's that's how the company exists. That's

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how Mark Emmertt can get, you
know, a multimillion dollar salary and then

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a bonus of multimillions every year just
they're printing money seemingly from the NS DOUAA

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tournament. But if these lawsuits that
were recently filed are successful, they may

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run out of money. So one
of the things that got brought up after

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this settlement became public is the timeline
here. So for reasons that I that

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I still can't figure out, they're
going to go back and pay former college

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athletes in this settlement because they were
not able to profit from their NIL because

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the NC DOUBLEA denied them the right
to do that, right, I mean,

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yeah, here's the timeline. So
two point eight billion is the settlement

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that covers only college athletes who competed
from June fifteenth of twenty sixteen through November

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third of twenty twenty three, which, again I don't understand that timeline because

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I mean, there are plenty of
athletes that played long before June fifteenth of

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twenty sixteen that also were denied by
the NC DOUBLEA access to an NIL market

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that they would have made a lot
of money. So first, at least

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the first story I saw about a
lawsuit from players that played long before that,

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that was the NC State nineteen eighty
three NC State men's basketball team.

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They had ten members of that team
that are suing the NCUBLEA and the collective

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licensing company, whatever that is,
and I wouldn't be shocked if they win.

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And now we have sixteen former men's
college basketball players from the nineties and

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two thousands that brought on their own
lawsuit claiming the NCE DOUBLEA and its member

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conferences illegally use their nils in March
Madness highlights. So this suit is led

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by Mario Chalmers, of course,
a no name from Kansas, Sharon Collins,

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also a non name from Kansas.
They were on that two thousand and

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eight Kansas national championship team. And
it also includes six major college basketball conferences

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and Turner Sports Initiative, which,
of course Turner Sports is you know,

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CBS Turner or the samet you know
or partner together. I mean, I

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think Turner owns CBS or vice versa. So it's the people who put on

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the NCBLA tournament. So that's the
lawsuit, and I don't see how they

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won't win. And I think even
if they don't win and this thing drags

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out, the more lawsuits they get
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I would be highly, highly shocked
if these former college players they won

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a national championship in two thousand and
eight didn't see this lawsuit by the NC

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state guys and said, why are
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a point that it may be valid. I'm not smart enough to know,

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but like it could be a statute
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understand why there'd be a statute of
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was, I feel like these lawsuits
wouldn't you know, you can sue anybody

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for anything, right, Like there
are many lawsuits every day that are filed

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that are absolutely nonsense. But I
feel like these guys, especially Mario Chalmers

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who played in the NBA for a
long time. I mean, I don't

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think these guys are poor trying to
get a check. I mean, clearly

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they want money, and it may
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or maybe it is because they need
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how they wouldn't be entitled to that, Like, how can theans DOAA?

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To me? It's like, Okay, we'll do the two point eight billion

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for this amount of time because that's
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because that's a lot of money,
and well, and this will be this

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because by the way, this is
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done anything that is paying players.
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judge told them, not because they
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that the two point eight billion is
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doing it, meaning paying players out
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and they just thought, Okay,
people will just not people will ignore the

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timeline here because I just don't again, what do I know, not a

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lawyer, far from it, but
I don't understand if you played in November

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of twenty sixteen, you can be
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eight billion, but if you played
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Like, it makes no sense to
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limitations thing would make sense. But
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lawsuits because I feel like, if
you you know, these attorneys who took

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on this, you know, who
are you know fighting for these you know

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who were putting these lawsuits in place
and whatnot? Like if they knew it

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was a shut in case closed because
the statute of limitations, I just don't

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think it gets that far down the
line. But you know, I could

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be wrong, all right. So
on the other side, we're not getting

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going to the break just yet yet, just yet. But I do want

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to get to something I mentioned earlier
but I haven't discussed yet, and that

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is just some comparisons that I think
will put your jaw on the floor as

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far as a guy in the NFL
that you know is like one of the

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best players in the league at his
position, maybe somebody who's got an MVP

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trophy in the case, and you'll
see his annual salary, and then you'll

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see a guy in the NBA that
makes the same amount of money and you'll

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look at his stats. Maybe it's
somebody you've never heard of, and it's

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just crazy. So we will get
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JaMarcus Russell, I assume everybody listening
knows who that is. He's one of

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the biggest, if not the biggest
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he has found himself in the news
once again for you know, not good

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reasons. So he was a quarterback
at LSU, was the number one pick

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in the two thousand in seven draft, only he didn't get a new contract.

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He was out of the league in
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good when he was in the league. And I'd say if you polled one

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hundred NFL fans and asked them who
the biggest NFL draft bus was, I'd

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say seventy five or more percent would
say JaMarcus Russell. So I don't know

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what is you know what his life
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But I know there was an ESPN
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and I think there was a thirty
for thirty on him, and it didn't

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paint the picture as if you know, life was perfect, but you know,

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he did open up as to some
things that led to him struggling,

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and you know, just people around
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So I have no clue what he's
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but he has found himself facing a
lawsuit now because he I mean, this

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is this is just a bad look. He was coaching at his alma mater

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as a volunteer coach, and he
apparently took a seventy four thousand dollars check

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intended as a donation to the school
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a local business owner wrote the check
and says that Russell approached him about donating

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to help the Williamson High School football
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he gave Russell the donation by check, but the school says they never got

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any of that money. And Russell
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and as soon as he deposited,
he quickly withdrew fifty five thousand of the

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seventy four thousand and kept it himself. And now you know, I guess

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he's not facing criminal charges, but
he's facing a lawsuit because I guess if

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this guy, I don't know,
I guess technically he could still get in

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trouble with the law. But if
if this guy wrote a check and he

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just put it in JaMarcus Russell's name, I mean, it could just come

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down to hearsay, did this guy
does he have proof that that check was

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for what, you know, for
weight room stuff or what? But you

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know, sad because you got to
be really, really really in a low

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place and be really down and out
to one do that, but also to

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think you wouldn't get caught, to
think you wouldn't get away with it,

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or to think that you would get
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thirty eight. I thought he was
a lot older than that. But yeah,

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he started twenty five games for the
Raiders and ended his NFL career with

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fifty two percent completion rate, eighteen
touchdowns twenty three interceptions. He was,

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I mean it was I don't even
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mean, usually if you're if you're
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an early pick, I mean that's
I mean, that's I mean it's rare,

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but it happens. But usually somebody
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and and put you on the practice
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see that he had any I mean, it sounds like once it ended with

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with the Raiders, it was it
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you know, very sad. He's
also the guy though that is known

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for a really funny story. You
know, he he would not watch film

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like he would not. They wanted
him to learn the offense watching film,

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and they would give him I think
it might have been DVD's they would give

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him of like you know, highlights
and just you know, the offense.

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I'm not sure what's on the DVD
as far as you know what they're showing

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him, but just stuff for him
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with the offense he's gonna run.
And they had a feeling that he wasn't

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watching it because it wasn't translating,
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case and then asked him if he
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yes. I mean, like again, this guy has never made great decisions.

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It looks like former number one overall
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come back on the other side.
Keep this party going on. It's coffee

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and company. Feel about Thornton's right
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Donovan Mitchell inked a new three year
extension with the Cleveland Cavaliers years earlier.

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This morning, woes broke the story
and a lot of money. He's

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already made a lot of money.
He's going to make even more. So.

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It is a three year, one
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deal. I believe it is,
so that uh that keeps him there for

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well, it's not a I'm trying
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three years he's is is the is
the amount of years that he's he's going

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to be there under contract. He
will have a player option UH in year

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four and after not this upcoming season, but the next season, after the

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twenty twenty five to twenty six season, he'll be eligible for a four year

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extension, which will give him the
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enter a level of of of cleveland'll
be able to give him more money than

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there. They can't. You know, there's this there's something about how long

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he's been in the NBA that'll make
him eligible for a different type of deal

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than what he's getting now. I
believe. So, Yeah, Donovan staying

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in Cleveland, and I never really
got the sense that he would he would

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try to leave because you know,
there's always been talk about him wanting out

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of Utah and would he leave Utah
not because I mean they were good for

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a while, but you know,
Utah is a small market team. They

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lost Gordon Hayward and it's probably along
with the Orlando Magic and maybe the Detroit

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Pistons, they're not a small,
tiny market they're just awful. But I

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guess you could maybe throw up Pacers
in there too, to be honest with

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you, those are the types of
small market teams. The kings to where

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if you have, like if you
hit it big in the draft and you

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have a guy that's become your franchise
player and you're building around him and it's

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working, you have to worry about
him just deciding he doesn't want to play

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with you anymore. He wants to
go to a bigger market, maybe with

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maybe with a you know, a
better team, or team up with his

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friends somewhere. Like that happens in
the NBA now. So it was said

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about Donovan in Cleveland. I'm sorry
in Utah, but I don't really remember

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ever really, I mean, they
just decided to trade him and kind of

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start over. I don't think he
forced out, And in Cleveland, I

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don't think there was ever evidence that
he wanted or that he was frustrated.

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There was just a lot of noise
about it, and he would at times

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kind of shoot it down on social
media, you know, not you know,

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losing his mind in a tweet,
but just kind of saying like,

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man, this is ridiculous, kind
of insinuating that this is just so far

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from the truth. But everybody seemed
to think that he wanted to leave,

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but he clearly didn't because he decided
to stay And this was a Cavs fan

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who put this together. I thought
it's well done, but just how wrong

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everybody was about Donovan Mitchell and some
claiming that like they know he's got coming

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back. It's just, you know, the worst kept secret in basketball,

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one hundred percent. Donovan Mitchell has
played his last game full the Cleveland cavill

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lives, but it seems like no
one around the league actually thinks he wants

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to stay in Cleveland. Donovan Mitchell's
gonna say, damn it, I want

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out, you know why, because
I wanted to be in New York anyway.

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Okay, that nobody thinks he's staying
there, you know, and I

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think that's what we've heard. I
haven't heard anybody be like, no,

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no, you guys are wrong.
He's staying a It's the worst kept secret.

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People don't think that Donovan Mitchell is
going to be their long term anyway.

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Even if Donovan Mitchell and the Calves
winning championship next year, that'd be

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great, love it. It's even
more likely than he's gonna leave, It's

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true. So I think what's happened
with Donovan is that he has found himself

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in situations to where he doesn't have
a ton of help. I mean,

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I think Cleveland is ecstatic to get
him back because he has delivered since he

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was traded there, and he's made
them better. They became a playoff team

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when he arrived. And he's got
Darius Garland as a teammate who is a

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good young player. And they're not
terrible. I don't think the roster stinks,

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but like they're just gonna run it
back, and I mean, I

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don't know what else you can do. I don't. I don't know if

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they don't have cap room or whatever. But you know, I'm friends with

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a couple of Cavs fans who work
in that market, and they they're stunned

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that they were able to get Donovan
back, but like they're not maybe by

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paying Donovan this that keeps them from
being able to go add more pieces.

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But like it's so clear that Boston
is the elite team above everybody else in

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the East. And I don't know
who's gonna be close to competing with them,

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like gosh, I mean, who
maybe the Knicks, but maybe not.

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Yeah, I don't know, Man, the Knicks have good young pieces

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like I could, but I just
have a hard time I'll believe it when

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I see it. With the Knicks, meaning like they've definitely got a good

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core right now, and they've become
better in the last couple of years.

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You know, they made it to
the second round of the of the playoffs

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this year. But there'll be all
kinds of talk about them being the team

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that could take them down. But
again, that's what the Knicks or front

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runners like. They like they've never
actually done anything substantial in the NBA in

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a long long time, and they're
all hype, and they were all hype

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acting like they'd won the series against
the Pacers, and then the Pacers going

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to and I know they were injured
and all that, but they go into

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New York and you know, talked
about as the biggest game in Knick's history

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as far as you know, Game
seven at their place, and you know

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they got they got demand the Pacers
take a step forward. Maybe they just

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man'. That's what really bums me
out about the Pacers is that I like

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the personnel on this team, but
like our ceiling is in my opinion,

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still far away from being like,
honestly, to be fair, if the

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Knicks were at full stream, I
don't think we beat them in that series.

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I mean we almost lost to them, and they were very, very

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shorthanded. So I mean, Halli
Burton's a great star. Again. I

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liked what they've I like what the
Pacers are doing, but I just it

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makes me sad to know that I
feel good about it. But I also

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can be realistic with myself and say, we're not sniffing an NBA title anytime

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soon, so you know, and
we're not a destination for free agents.

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We're just not never have been.
And you know, Indie is not a

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huge city compared to the biggest that
the NBA has to offer, but it's

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also not a tight I mean,
like you know, I'm biased, CLEARLYM

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a Pacers fan, and I actually
love the city of Indianapolis. I really

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do. I've never heard anybody who's
been to Indianapolis, except for maybe people

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from the Deep South, that have
anything bad to say about Indianapolis. I

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think it is, you know,
for me and just sort of I think

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it's the perfect city. It you
know, there's there's a ton of diversity,

408
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.480
there's a lot of I mean,
it's it's it's nice. It's big

409
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.039
enough to where you have pro sports
teams but it's not too big to just

410
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.839
overwhelm you. Uh, the suburb
areas are super nice. I mean you're

411
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.680
close to Chicago, you close to
Louisville. Like, I would never move.

412
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:23.640
I don't want to move, but
like if I had to move to

413
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.000
a different like if I was going
to move to I mean it's no brainer.

414
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.680
Actually, if I was gonna,
let's say, I you know,

415
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:32.720
my career took me to a pro
market and I was, you know,

416
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.359
going to a different station, I
would I would prefer Indy one because I

417
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:38.279
know a lot about those teams and
that would help me, that would give

418
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.559
me a little bit of a head
start in a new market. But like

419
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.759
I love Indianapolis. I think it's
a great city. So but you know

420
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:45.759
NBA players, they want to be
in Miami, they want to be in

421
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.640
LA, they want to be in
New York. And I get it because

422
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.680
you know, there are guys who
will have way Like for example, Dak

423
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:57.359
Prescott is not a great quarterback.
He makes good money with the Cowboys.

424
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.960
They've clearly paid him well enough.
He's made money, but do people understand

425
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.559
being in Dallas, in the brand
that the Cowboys have, he makes more

426
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.279
money probably from endorsements than anybody would
ever realize. And it's not because of

427
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.680
stats. It's because he's the freaking
Cowboys quarterback and he's above competent. Right,

428
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.799
Brands want to work with somebody who
is the QB for one of the

429
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.319
bigger sports franchises on the planet.
Same thing in New York, like you

430
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.400
have way more Lebron has been able
to really you know, I mean Lebron

431
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.480
is a Hollywood guy now, and
I don't mean like in movies. He's

432
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.119
been in movies, but like he
has a production company, Like he has

433
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.079
used his wealth to start, you
know, to be an entrepreneur in the

434
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.440
tech in Hollywood world, and he
could do that from anywhere he's Lebron,

435
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.160
but like in LA makes it more
convenient. So that'll never change. By

436
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:47.400
the way, I think smaller market
franchises will always sort of just have a

437
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.279
tougher time in the grand scheme of
things. Doesn't mean you can't have success.

438
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.559
I mean, look at look at
the Packers. I mean they're not

439
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.480
I mean they're tiny market, and
you know they've they've had success and have

440
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.400
continued. I mean they're one of
the bigger franchises in the NFL. So

441
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.680
Anyways, Donovan's getting paid a lot
of money, and I'm happy for him.

442
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:10.960
I'm happy for him. So let's
look at let's see Donn So this

443
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.599
year, Donovan Mitchell under contract under
his new contract, Donovan's gonna make thirty

444
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:21.440
four point eight million dollars. It's
a lot of money. Next year he's

445
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.480
gonna make forty six point three million. He'll make fifty point one million in

446
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.599
the next year, and then that
last year in its contract with the player

447
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:34.279
option fifty three point eight so he'll
be eligible for a max after I believe

448
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.880
it is the twenty eight season,
which I think the max projected max is

449
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:42.880
sixty five point five million, which
is crazy to think about. So the

450
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.119
NBA has got a lot more money
to throw around, and I know why,

451
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:51.240
right, there's less players to pay. The collective Bargaining Agreement. Uh,

452
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:53.720
they have a lot of guaranteed deal. I mean, just about every

453
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:59.039
deal is guaranteed in the in the
NBA, it seems, especially if you're

454
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.920
like a consistent play that you know
is you know they're not gonna cut.

455
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.519
I mean, if they cut you
and you still have a lot of guaranteed

456
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:08.359
money on your deal, it's because
they were just way wrong. So and

457
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.000
then there's some contracts that are like
partially guaranteed. Let me give you a

458
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:18.039
crazy stat Last year, Neurlans Noel
did not play basketball in the NBA,

459
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:26.119
was not employed, but he signed
a training camp deal that had because he's

460
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.839
a veteran, I guess it had. It had a guarantee component to where

461
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:36.079
seven hundred thousand dollars was guaranteed.
Ne Orleans Noel was paid seven hundred thousand

462
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.559
dollars last year to not play basketball. Seven hundred k. And he hasn't

463
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.680
played legitimately in like four years.
So it wasn't as if, you know,

464
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.519
he was fresh off a good run
with a team. He'd been fighting

465
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.839
for a spot in the NBA for
a few years there, and the King

466
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.000
signed him but just kind of a
training camp deal, but they let him

467
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.079
go before the season started. They
didn't keep him on the roster, but

468
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.839
yet his deal. I mean,
that just is a sign of money that

469
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.680
you you can just throw away because
you have unlimited amounts of it, you

470
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:07.920
know what I mean. So it's
not like I'm bringing this to to attention

471
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.920
of people, like nobody's aware of
it. Like I know that the NFL

472
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.440
doesn't have as much guarantee. There's
way more players to pay. They don't

473
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.880
have as good of a CVA,
and that's why they don't make as much

474
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.200
money. Like it isn't new information, but I think when you hear the

475
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.000
salaries of this guy in the NBA
and this guy in the NFL, like

476
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:29.480
some of it is crazy, I
mean unbelievable almost, Like Lamar Jackson.

477
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.839
Let's look at Lamar Jacks. Lamar
Jackson this year just base just his contract,

478
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.319
You'll make a lot more money with
endorsements, and I think his contractor's

479
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.359
like some cash included, which is
just I guess added payments. But his

480
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.359
deal, meaning like the terms of
his contract is his salary for this upcoming

481
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:51.240
season is fourteen point two five million
dollars. It's a lot of money,

482
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:56.079
right, you know who's gonna make
the same amount of money or more than

483
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.799
Lamar Jackson, who has two MVP
trophies, by the way, and he's

484
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.160
currently one of the higher paid quarterbacks
in the league. He's not the highest

485
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.799
paid. But like it's not as
if, oh, poor Lamar everybody else

486
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.279
in the NFL at quarterbacks getting rich. It's just that this is the way

487
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.599
it is Mitchell Robinson for the Knicks
will make more money than Lamar Jackson,

488
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:22.440
Obie Toppin. You know Grant Williams
from Tennessee played at Tennessee for a while,

489
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.359
then was with the Celtics, Hornets
and Mavericks. Think he just finished

490
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:27.400
up the season with the mat I
mean he's like a mid. He is

491
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:32.319
mid at best. In the NBA. He makes slightly less than Lamar Jackson

492
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.920
does. Max Struss makes over a
million dollars more. I'm naming people that

493
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.039
a lot of you've never heard of. I'm sure, right, I mean,

494
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.519
the NBA is the place to be
apparently, I mean if you got

495
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.319
money, I mean if you can, if you can, like if you

496
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:48.720
can, and it's a hard league
to stay in, right, I mean

497
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.119
it's impossible almost there's not as many
roster spots, like it's super competitive.

498
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:59.799
But you can be in the NF
you can be in the NBA on you

499
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.759
know, a low level deal and
still I mean you can be a guy

500
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.200
that is just known that you might
get in one game a month. But

501
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.039
if you're on a two three year
deal and a good chunk of it's guaranteed,

502
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.759
I mean, you're making you know, life changing money. I mean,

503
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.960
let's look at let's look at some
other players here, let's see.

504
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.119
Ope, Sorry, I'm searching on
a Google tab and that that happens whenever

505
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.079
I end up not getting any So
yeah, TJ. Hawkinson, he is

506
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.400
a He's one of the five best
tight ends in the NFL according to Pro

507
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:40.000
Football Focus. He's with the Minnesota
Vikings. Nine point nine million dollars uh

508
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:45.240
is is his salary. I mean, I can name dudes in the NBA

509
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:52.240
who get off the bench once a
month that make you know double that.

510
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:59.799
I mean, he's making nine.
Bruce Brown with the Raptors makes twenty three

511
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:07.440
men million dollars this upcoming season.
Nicholas Claxton twenty two million. I mean

512
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:14.720
Miles Turner nineteen million. And if
you like, this is the kind of

513
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.559
thing that if you have the ability
is a young like if you've got a

514
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:23.279
kid who you know is just a
god gifted athlete, I mean to the

515
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:30.519
point where you are you're not delusional
as a parent to say that you think

516
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.880
that your son could be a professional
athlete and he's at an age where he's

517
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.200
like fifteen, maybe sixteen, maybe
fourteen fifteen is probably more like it,

518
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.640
and you kind of want him to
to to not quit one, but maybe

519
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.160
just you know, realize which one's
going to get more focused. Because I'm

520
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.279
somebody I hope when i'm a if
I end up in that situation and I'm

521
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.680
sure my son will not be a
god gifted athlete that has a chance to

522
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.000
play pro sports, I hope that
happens, But you know, I'm realistic.

523
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.160
I'd realize the chances of that happening. But like I think, even

524
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.680
if we're just competing to maybe get
a scholarship, I'm gonna let him play

525
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:04.039
whatever sport he wants. But I
think if you're giving four sports the collective

526
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.000
amount of same amount of attention,
you're not giving any of them the amount

527
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.480
that it needs for you to be
super successful. But my point is,

528
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.960
like shift him in the direction of
basketball. I mean, harder to make

529
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.000
it clearly, but like, if
they've got that is a realistic I mean,

530
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.480
that's the amount of money's crazy.
I mean, even if you take

531
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.880
away the fact that it's guaranteed,
I mean, just the base salary for

532
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:30.119
these guys, man, it is, it's insane. And I think you're

533
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.239
insane if you haven't taken advantage of
all the great services that Louisville Men's Clinic

534
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535
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te and they can help you with
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536
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Maybe you have a rectile dysfunction.
If so, that's unfortunate. I'm sure

537
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that's difficult to deal with. Who
knows. Maybe I'll be there one day.

538
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:46.920
I hope not. But if i
am, I know who I'm going

539
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to turn to, and that's the
folks at Louisville Men's Clinic. Doctor Wood.

540
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He's a true pro great guy character
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541
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a complimentary way. He's awesome.
Really enjoy anytime I'm in the office catching

542
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up with doctor Wood. He's he's
a funny guy, and you know,

543
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he knows what he's he knows what
he's talking about, he knows what he's

544
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doing. He's a real doctor who's
you know, prior to working for the

545
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Lowell Men's Clinic, he was a
you know, practicing doctor for for many,

546
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many many years. And you know
now he's very passionate about helping helping

547
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dudes out right low ted joint pain, weight loss therapy. They've got options

548
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549
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never hurts to see if he could
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550
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get a consultation, kind of talk
them through your situation, and you know

551
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they may have something that you didn't
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552
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Give him a call, fabably two
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553
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that's the number to give him a
call. They'll be happy to hear

554
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from you. Or you can check
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555
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All right, our last break and
then we'll come back and wrap it

556
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.840
up on the other side right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety. I can't

557
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.880
tell if people are underwhelmed with what
they've learned about Hawk to a girl now

558
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.679
that she's she's come out, she's
been published at her first interview she was

559
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.840
on stage in Nashville Zach Bryan this
past weekend. Because you know, this

560
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.920
is what happens in the new world
of the Internet here to where if somebody

561
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.320
goes viral for something like that,
like a random interview on the street or

562
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.280
something, and nobody and nobody knows
for sure. People on the internet are

563
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.559
savvy enough to make something up about
said person, knowing it's fake and know

564
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.480
that a billion people are going to
share it, like, wow, can

565
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.800
you believe it? Talked to a
girl. I mean she she was a

566
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:29.880
teacher and she lost her job,
and like she's since come out and said,

567
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.400
like, none of that stuff is
true. She didn't lose her job.

568
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:36.679
She was never a teacher. She's
not even old enough to drink.

569
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.159
This is her on a Barstool Sports
podcast recently. What were you doing for

570
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.000
your job? I worked in a
spring factory. I'm not a school teacher.

571
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.800
That was my next question, because
we're a teacher and got fired from

572
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.840
your job. No, I'm not
even old enough to be a teacher.

573
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.079
I was gonna say, because you're
twenty one, I'm like, this is

574
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.760
illegal. Who was a teacher exactly? So you weren't a teacher or a

575
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:59.519
bartender? So o the one.
And also I've heard rumors that your dad

576
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.800
is a preach. Sure, my
father so far from apprecier. It's crazy,

577
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:10.719
So everything made up like it at
all? So I think the intrigue

578
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.400
of the unknown is why. Also
she's adorable, but I mean she in

579
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.519
you know the context of what she
was discussing. Certainly, uh, generated

580
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:24.719
a lot of fans of hers,
But I mean, like I think people

581
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.400
because there's it was so unknown for
what a couple of weeks, everybody had

582
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:30.920
made up their own mind as far
as what they thought of her, what

583
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.199
they assumed she did for a living, what her personality was like, and

584
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.360
you know, you just never know. And she can also be a great

585
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:43.119
sign. Again what I just mentioned
that this happens, that this is a

586
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:47.039
known thing for people to to do
engagement farming on the internet and monetize their

587
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:51.840
social media following. Because how many
times have you seen somebody share something about

588
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.840
this girl that now we know is
not true and it's because it got shared

589
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:59.880
a billion times and somebody was able
to profit from that. Apparently people really

590
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:00.880
that she's anti Trump. I don't
know if you saw that or not,

591
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.559
John, of course, because everybody
in the South has I guess they just

592
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.119
assumed she's on Nashville. She's in
Nashville from the south of that accident,

593
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.000
and she must be a big Trumper. And you know they assume everybody's dad

594
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.280
from the South as a preacher too. Exactly. Yeah, But I mean

595
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.239
she looked the clip, I mean, she still looked young, but everything

596
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.079
I've seen from her since then,
as far as taking pictures with celebrities.

597
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.639
In this interview I'm looking at right
now. I mean, she looks a

598
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:28.960
lot younger than I than I initially
thought she was. I mean, I

599
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.480
mean she's twenty years old. So
Hawk to a Girl. That'll eventually fade,

600
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.599
and you know, it'll be cliche. I hope she cleans up and

601
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:37.920
makes a bunch of money from it. But like, you know, transitioning

602
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.400
from that to you know, a
career. I don't think you did anything

603
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.880
to keep yourself from getting a job, but like you're kind of gonna always

604
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.920
be known as hawk to a girl
now, which, hey, I guess

605
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.000
there could be worse things you could
be known for. All Right, we're

606
00:38:49.039 --> 00:39:00.639
out of time. We'll be back
at it tomorrow, right here on SportsTalk seven ninety

