WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:28.640 Hey everybody, it's Tuesday. Welcome to the Giant BombCast powered by NDXT, 2 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:34.719 Episode eight one hundred and forty one. Today is May twenty first, twenty 3 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:39.240 twenty four. I am your host, Jan Achoa. Welcome to the Cinnamon 4 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.479 Roll of video Game Podcast. That's right, We're warm, we're gooey, 5 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.799 we're delectable, we're a little sweet treats that you feel a little bit guilty 6 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.359 for indulging in. But hey, we're here, baby. We're here just 7 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:55.280 like the Aunty ANNs, and we're also the aunty Ands. We're also the 8 00:00:55.320 --> 00:01:02.240 Pretzels, a video game podcast joining me Pretzel Conna sour Jeff crub Barret Cortney 9 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:04.000 says he's still sorry that his dog was mean to your dog. Jan. 10 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:08.079 I had dinner with him last night, and uh, he still feels guilty 11 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.840 his his dog wasn't mean. It's fine. Well, he still feels guilty 12 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.480 about it. So that's I figured to start the podcast with that. We 13 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.120 got the mad Dog video games media. Damn record, that's me. That's 14 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.879 what people have called me for a long time. Yes, yes, that 15 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:32.840 that is that is your He's going right, exact thing. That's Benati whoa 16 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:38.000 and that was our freaky little dude audio listeners, it's a little clay Mike 17 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:42.719 Manatti. Yeah, it's basically the key the cake that we have, but 18 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:44.879 just as like a little figure. So in sent I think, I think 19 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.200 this is supposed to go to him. It was in our po box for 20 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:49.680 our thing that we do. What did they do? They like three D 21 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.599 printed there it feels like printed or yeah. Yeah for those listening to the 22 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:57.000 audio, it is a RoboCop head of Mike Manatti with feet sticking out like 23 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:01.760 the famous cake from the Famous The Infamous. Yes, yeah, it's very 24 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:06.680 Goomba adjacent. Yeah. I couldn't find it, and my kid comes to 25 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:07.800 I think, I know what you're looking for. And then she comes back 26 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.400 later, so I think she had put this in a Heidi hole somewhere. 27 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.400 I love how your child knows where to find a RoboCop head of your friend. 28 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.759 Yes, And I was like, I'm looking. I'm just looking for 29 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.639 a weird thing, is what I said. And I couldn't find it. 30 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.560 Come down here. In a couple of minutes later, she's like, I 31 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:24.159 think I know about a weird thing. I found the one weird thing in 32 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.680 the house. Dan. Yeah, here it is at last, but not 33 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.840 least, our own master of cakes. He's hiding in his Heidi hole and 34 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:38.360 he's got he's it's littered with keyboards and baseball caps and whatever the Stanley Cup 35 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.759 Finals will look like. Jeff Beckler. Yeah, we don't know yet, 36 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:45.240 but thank you for that intro, My buddy, Jan Good to be here, 37 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:50.479 Happy to be here, Delighted to share the microphone with all of you. 38 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.800 Can you imagine if we were trying to do this podcast with one microphone 39 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.639 and we're just like, that's how we did the Beast Cast and she no, 40 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:00.400 just like inching close to each other and something. I watched Challengers this 41 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:07.560 weekend. Whoa talk about the microphone? That's Challengers. I'm just assuming that 42 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:15.120 that's a tennis sex movie, rights tennis movie? What do you mean tennis 43 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:20.199 X guys? You knowles? What? Yeah? What is? What is 44 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.120 it really for the tennis crowd? I think it's about tennis players that have 45 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.879 sex with each other? Yeah, I mean is that that the trailer makes 46 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:30.520 it look like, well, no one said that, but I think it 47 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:35.520 might be. I mean it's like a love triangle kind of they play on 48 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:40.719 a rectangle. No, no, love triangle not the Oh so we're talking 49 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:52.680 doubles m a little bit about the Adam Driver movie, right, Adam Driver 50 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.039 made it? What about it? It looks it looks a net adjacent. 51 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:00.199 Yes, it looks like the sci fi sequel to a Net. No, 52 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:09.479 that thing that dinosaur movie he did, that's the site that's did Adam Driver 53 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:12.719 did. Oh okay, okay, No, this is this trailer. I 54 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:14.960 was watching that whole thing. I was like, what the I watched it 55 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.639 very time. Yeah. People like out of its con right now right? 56 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.000 Yeah? Yeah, they haven't even announced like a wide release. Ye, 57 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.439 I don't think. I feel like I don't think anyone's picked it up for 58 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:30.399 wide release yet. That's a matter of let's screen it at SGF. I 59 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.319 was gonna say, I feel like people are saying good things about it. 60 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:38.920 People. People are saying things about it. They're saying like the one okay, 61 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.279 the one anecdote I heard is so and it's like I went to the 62 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:45.439 bathroom an hour in and I found a man just kind of hunkered over in 63 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:53.079 the hallway saying it's a nightmare that let's go. Let's go. Yes, 64 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:56.639 I mean, you know, he's like eighty eight, and they're like letting 65 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.480 him make movies because I think that's cool that he's paying it for here's a 66 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.279 million of his own money. Yes, Daniel is like a hell shuit the 67 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.240 way like Apocalypse Now and stuff was. So it's like, oh he's back. 68 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:12.040 Here we go. I'm so glad this is happening. Like it's in 69 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.560 a situation now where it's like you can't afford not to see it, right, 70 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.759 Yeah, you have to see it. And whereas Annette, I'd be 71 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.639 fine not having seen it. No, No, I know what else is 72 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:26.879 a must? You know what else is a mussy thing? Happening very very 73 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:32.519 soon coming to perhaps the Bellevue Theater in Los Angeles, June ninth. Jeff 74 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.439 Grub, what's happening June ninth at the bell Weather in Los Angeles. We're 75 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:40.639 gonna do gb at Night Live. It'll be night three of our show. 76 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.959 We're inviting you all to come out and get tickets, come see us. 77 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.000 It's gonna be everyone from Giant Bomb. I'll be hosting a handful of segments. 78 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.879 We'll do some fun stuff. You should definitely pick up your tickets now 79 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.480 because we've got some friends that are gonna come hang out with us. And 80 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:58.319 including Iffy, a lot of Peers, Jason Schreyer, Patrick Kleppik, a 81 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.519 whole bunch more. Honestly, I think I just saw you did that a 82 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.680 re up to video showing that off. It looks great, but yeah, 83 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:05.879 you should act. Now, get your tickets. They're going fast, so 84 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:12.439 definitely go pick those up. Yes, more guests to be announced e I 85 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:20.240 P packages available, fun excitement giveaways. Tables because you're gonna have to sit 86 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.680 at something. Oh no, it's a couch, muse say, tables, 87 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:31.759 typo tape, tables because you know we you you'll maybe there will be a 88 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.680 table on the back that you can rest a drink on. Okay, you're 89 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:36.839 going to get the tables, that's what you're saying. Yeah, I'm going 90 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:42.680 to get the tables. It's a tables match are our crew is going to 91 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.639 have to put the computer on something, and generally it's a table. I 92 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:54.959 think it's a big deal for Mike Manatti. Yes, can I tell you 93 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.160 that. I'll just let that phrase hang for a second, but I think 94 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.240 it's a big deal for Mike Manatti to be mentioned in the same breath as 95 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:06.360 people like Parasally, Ulepic and Alana Piers as much. But yeah, no, 96 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.639 I think it's a big deal. I think it's a big deal for 97 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:15.959 like someone to say Jason Schreier and then soon after say Mike Manatti as the 98 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:21.519 two games journalists about as if they occupy the same headspace. Hey, he's 99 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:26.800 at a gaming business convention right now that his company runs and with our boss. 100 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.800 Yeah, with the top of the yeah, seem like a bunch of 101 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:33.600 kids in a suit trying to sneak into a business thing like that where he's 102 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.759 at, Like when brain and you see like the monkey with the Sunday Yes, 103 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:40.279 I think you Like if you were to like say one Disney thing his 104 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.279 like the seven several dozen like mice that create his body would fall apart a 105 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.040 little bit. Yeah. I was looking at the picture he posted of just 106 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.199 the weird selfie of him just like his head taking up the whole frame and 107 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:54.959 he's got his business thing over a T shirt, and I was like analyzing 108 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:57.560 it. I was like, you know, like enhancing this, and it's 109 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.959 like does that do those letters say Mickey? Is this a Mickey shirt underneath 110 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.160 his business thing? Mickey Mouse shirt? Because you have you guys, you 111 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.560 guys, you don't you know Mikey as well as anyone. Mikey can never 112 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.800 go full business. That's that's why I'm more of an adult. In Minatti. 113 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.720 When I was like officiating Maharty's wedding, I didn't have a D d 114 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.680 P shirt on underneath my tucks. You know. Yeah, but you also 115 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.160 seems very uncomfortable, so I don't think you can really talk. I think 116 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:30.519 it was a rockets your shirt, which is okay. I mean you both 117 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.600 lose points in being adults. Everyone knows that I can camouflage myself better than 118 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:39.080 he can. I don't know who's a better adult. Dan is right about 119 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.679 this one, yes, because Mike doesn't care to camouflage himself, and so 120 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:50.919 he's never really like LARP you LARP adults. Yeah, I could pretend to 121 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.799 the best of them. No, I just got I got these two guys. 122 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:56.639 So yeah, yeah, this, this whole freak will be there. 123 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.039 I'll bring him to there. Yeah. I was fel with so much pain 124 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.039 putting Mike as the last name on that lineup because that's deliberate, Because no, 125 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:11.120 because it gives he could think it's deliberate or he's like the with or 126 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:18.120 the and but yeah, and with Mike Manatti. No, for sure, 127 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:20.879 you guys are right, like in the titles where like you know, Hugh 128 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.279 Grant is only in for like a cameo, but it says and Hugh Grant, 129 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:30.759 like prospect his agent, like yeah got him the with the Executive Decision, 130 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.519 wants his own title. Let's see the Executive Decision thing where it's like 131 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.559 they gave Sigall top billing even though he dies in like ten minutes. So 132 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:41.399 let's just like top billing for the Schwarzenegger Batman Robin and just yeah, yeah, 133 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.559 we oh oh that would be not bad, like Mike Manatti presents. 134 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.120 Uh huh no, we can't do that. We can't do that. We 135 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.240 could have it like bootleg t shirts made that only so like sell it like 136 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.120 actually, yes, you know what I encourage if you buy tickets to GB 137 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:05.039 at night, I courage bootleg merch in the parking lot of course, all 138 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.399 right during a scout, Yeah exactly, scalp tickets. Oh we should I 139 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.559 have a tailgate, but LA doesn't really support tailgates at all? Is that 140 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.960 true? I forgot, Let's book SOPI next year and then we can get 141 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.120 anyway. Yeah, easy, psy, easy, psy that's right there. 142 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:24.279 How's everyone doing? How's everyone going? I'm in like, uh, the 143 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:31.840 first complete week of creatine and my tongue you hurts so bad. I'm filled 144 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:39.240 with so much water. Oh bad. Yeah, combined with the coffee bad. 145 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:45.919 I understand how normal people feel now bad. Yeah, you tell you 146 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.919 about I'm doing pretty good. It was like, uh, it was nice 147 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.679 to I get out of the house and go have dinner with with Barrett yesterday. 148 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.960 That was nice gotten to meet him and his dad, Barrett Courtney from 149 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.159 Kind of Funny. They're they're nice folks and we just like talk about games. 150 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.559 We both ran a little bit of a victory lap where because we both 151 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.639 got bilatro for very cheap in our Fantasy Critic league, and he got it 152 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.600 because he was listening to this podcast. So hi, Barrett, You're welcome. 153 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.279 But yeah, it was like, okay, I need to I needed 154 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.639 to like just get out of the house and reset and realize it's not all 155 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:16.440 just like oh playing games constantly and then getting set up for summer game fast. 156 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.440 So I'm like feeling pretty good now. We got a little bit of 157 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.759 that that reset juice going. When you said you caught dinner with Barrett. 158 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:28.639 I didn't assume at first that he had gone over to you, Grub. 159 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.159 I thought you would come over to here, and I just went on there 160 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.840 and didn't. Yeah, I didn't see you. Yeah, it's like, 161 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.919 what the fuck, rub, and you're back home already. Yeah, I 162 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.320 know he's he's in tap for some family stuff. So yeah, yeah, 163 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.879 it was cool, lovely, lovely. I don't think Barrett's dog was rude 164 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:46.320 to Scout at all. It's fine, Barrett. No, don't trip, 165 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.120 chocolate Chip. It's all good. Everyone else is okay. How's how's the 166 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.879 gas boys, gas? I'm tape. I'm in the tapering now, so 167 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.519 I only got like four days of gas left, so it's okay. A 168 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:00.080 withered husk. At the end of the week, I had real gas, 169 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:07.240 like actual like shoot gas. Yeah, like you know gas stro gas. 170 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.840 Yeah, Like, I don't week. It was weird for me. I 171 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.120 don't know what was going on. I had, like I couldn't tell if 172 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.399 it was like Tommy troubles or what was happening. If anyone I would believe 173 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.799 it from Jeff Backler, that's it. So it was this. He's just 174 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:22.759 been holding him for like fifty years. Yeah, no, no, no, 175 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.879 No, I'm I'm uptied him, not that uptight. I think I've 176 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.519 I've look, guys, I've farted. Okay, he's a man. No, 177 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:35.320 Like something happened and like I was, like I was, I was 178 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.679 uncomfortable for like twenty four hours and then I was fine, and I'm just 179 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.639 like, well, is this just like old man problems? Like what like 180 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.879 what are what are we doing? Right? Yeah? You know, isn't 181 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.759 to check the colon? No? Not? I think forty five? Forty 182 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.080 five now? Yeah? Yeah, like no, like I'm not in any 183 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.879 discomfort. It was, it was. It was short lived. I couldn't 184 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.919 off. I was just like over deserved of myself skating. Who knows what 185 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:07.840 happens. It's like movement based. Yeah. Can I ask a very serious 186 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.879 question please. This has been bugging me for a while and I thought I 187 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:18.000 could use this platform. Okay. I think ice cream sandwiches should only have 188 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.039 like the chocolate biscuit. They should not have anything else as the way the 189 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.960 sandwich apparatus. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait it's a weird thing. 190 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.799 It's a weird hill eye on Joe ice cream. No, no, 191 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.039 no, no, you should of course have the ice cream inside. I'm 192 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.919 just talking about the holding apparatus. So you're saying the only form factory should 193 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.480 be like the brown rectangle. Yeah, no chip witch, no gimmicks, 194 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.000 like no, it's it like no cookies on each side. But like the 195 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:46.399 biscuit is basically a cookie. Yeah, but I'm talking about that soft spongy 196 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:48.279 one and like, hey, it's it. I'll wrap it because it's from 197 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.600 the Bay Area. It's very good, but it gets messy because like as 198 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.559 you're biting down in the cookie, it's pushing ice cream out. That's why 199 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.279 I ate mine with a knife and form. Yeah, I would microwave it 200 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.600 for like five or two seconds, throw it in a bowl and just take 201 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.159 a spoon and and then just go to town on it. Microwaving is Oh, 202 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.159 that's interesting, Like you know, the the like little pints of ice 203 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.679 cream, like the halotop gimmick things. Just let's get in there quicker. 204 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.759 Yeah, okay, I'm in the molecules. Yeah exactly exactly, because I 205 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.240 had one it was like two little waffle discs and I'm like, what are 206 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.840 we doing here, guys? And I just like spilling out and everything. 207 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.519 Was that at a restaurant or at a place, a food truck something like 208 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.159 that. No, it was just like a boxed one from it, like 209 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.759 from the store. Okay, yeah, the waffle thing seems like not the 210 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.480 best form factor Choco Chaco, though, that's a different situation, I accept, 211 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.840 right, Yeah, so I've started to cut everyone off. I have 212 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.600 a more important thing to say. I think, like, I got ridiculed 213 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.240 about my ice cream decision the other day, and I need validation. Sure, 214 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:52.840 I can't promise anything, but yeah, I have a fraught relationship with 215 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.480 ice cream. But you go ahead. Maybe this is the source of my 216 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:03.960 gas. But I had an ice cream outing on Friday night and I chose 217 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.360 to get chocolate chip cookie dough. And as I was ordering, I told 218 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.519 the person behind the counter, I would like Reese's pieces, but at the 219 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.559 bottom of the cup. Oh interesting, Okay, I want them at the 220 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:22.559 bottom of the cup because exactly, I like a little surprise at the thank 221 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:30.519 you exactly. And I was met with a grimace from the person behind the 222 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:35.120 counter in a way that i've I almost canceled the order. I almost took 223 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.279 my business elsewhere. I could not believe the ridicule. And she goes, 224 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.679 she goes, do you not want it on top? I said, did 225 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.960 I stutter? I know, I told you what I desire, and please 226 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.840 it for me in a cup. Correct in a cup, as much as 227 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.720 I want to give you a ship. That is a perfectly reasonable thing. 228 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:58.799 You know, Like people have way weirder and way more pain in the ass 229 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.600 pair of things. Like I worked at McDonald's and they would just be like, 230 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:04.440 oh I would, but the first third as normal coke and then the 231 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.080 second third is diet coke and then the top. It's like what everybody, 232 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.399 Okay, I'm on the cop this is my job. I'm doing it. 233 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.320 But like there's that weird stuff. Putting it on the bottom is not a 234 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.879 hassle for ice cream because it isn't the whole idea. Like again, I 235 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:19.639 don't get ice cream that often, but like every order is a custom order 236 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:23.840 because everyone wants different things. So it's like McDonald's where it's like, uh 237 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.279 yeah, and we make it one way. I guess we'll hold the pickles 238 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.679 for you. That's fine, we can do that. But like, yes, 239 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:32.240 ice cream, it's like, no, what do you want on your 240 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.759 ice cream? So it's like the that's the whole process. What did we 241 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:45.000 learn from chef reactions. We learn, but we did learn that we were 242 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:51.000 talking about a service industry, right, Like this is the deal that my 243 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:55.679 order was not crazy, I'll defend it. I'll defend it. And plus 244 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:57.559 you have a good reason to do that, because like I go to McDonald's 245 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:02.360 these days, and these goddamn kids that work there now, they don't understank. 246 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.359 I worked at McDonald's. I've made thousands of mcflury's. You need. 247 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.119 It's the exact same spoon gimmick that I was there when I worked there in 248 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.200 the nineties, and you got to make it go all the way down and 249 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.559 up a bunch to make sure those oreos and all that shit is going all 250 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.640 around. Now, I eat one and the first like ten percent has some 251 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:18.960 oreos in it, and then it's just vanilla. So officer of the rest 252 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.279 of the cup, these kids need to get it all the way to the 253 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:25.599 bottom of the gimmick. Yes, respect ice cream. Yeah, yes, 254 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:30.759 there was a huge line time was of the essence. Okay, So there's 255 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.440 feel like a criminal. Okay, So that you got to keep some things 256 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.000 in mind here because it always be clothing does point out if it's set up 257 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.799 like a subway and so like, where were the Reese's pieces in relation to 258 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.680 like where they were starting to make it? Was it within breaching distance? 259 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.400 They sat in between the conversation I was having with the with the Okay, 260 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.480 all right, if you're within arms room, Nio, you're in the You're 261 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.240 completely in the right here, I pointed, I said, can I have 262 00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:02.000 Reese's pieces at the bottom of the cup? Right? That's what I was 263 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:06.319 met with, huffing and puffing. I think that's why I have grown to 264 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:11.400 enjoy the Cold Stones because they just treat ice cream like Benny Hannah's. Yeah, 265 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:18.240 you mix everything. They got confusing sizes, Yeah, fair enough. 266 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.200 I would like to have this. Please put this in my mouth. Like 267 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.079 it's got like all sorts of weird like it's I don't know what size that 268 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:27.839 is. It's like do in difficulty levels? Yeah, yeah, I don't 269 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:33.279 any or whatever. Yeah. I think I've only been to Cold Stone maybe 270 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.920 once, and I don't recall the sizes being a point of contention. What's 271 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:41.920 the story mode the game? Plus there's sentences. Oh, they're like fall 272 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.720 off, like you know, confusing Starbucks is it's like that times twenty Oh 273 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:52.559 jesus, uh, this is my request, because I'm quickly learning that you 274 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.119 if you ask the giant bomb audience of anything, some of them will will 275 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:00.400 deliver if you manage the Cold Stones in Los Angeles. Let us back there, 276 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.200 Let us back there and let us make something place. Yeah, I 277 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.599 think there. I don't remember their ice cream being exceptional in any No, 278 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.599 no, no, no, it's it's completely okay, it's serviceable. But 279 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:12.759 I just want to see Dan Grubb and Minatti. It just slapping the ice 280 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:18.279 cream ice cream. Yeah, oh my god. It's a place and spend 281 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.880 the pizza. I thought it was fun and curtains and stuff. I've done 282 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:22.519 that. Yeah, I used to work at pizza places a little bit. 283 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.119 That's good time, kay I. It stings because when I was young, 284 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.759 I had like sensitive teeth and I didn't like cold, so I didn't like 285 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.079 ice cream all that much. And now that I'm like, that phase is 286 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.000 mostly ended for me, where I'm like, no, cold stuff's fine, 287 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.480 and now it's like, uh, the dairy is a problem, and so 288 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.440 it's like if I eat ice cream, now it's a problem on the other 289 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.599 side. And so like my whole life, I've kind of just been dodging 290 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.079 ice cream mostly and I'm like kind of disappointed. Now, I'm like, 291 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.319 ah, man, that seems like a nice tree ice cream, Like, 292 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:55.680 yeah, yeah, I just wish there was a time in my life where 293 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:56.960 I could have appreciated it. I just don't think it's gonna it's in the 294 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:02.440 cards for me, So that's sad. The thing is, you travel. 295 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.559 We're going to be on a work trip with two of the most lactose intolerant 296 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.960 people. I know that's true, and they're constantly carrying lactaid, So just 297 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.279 just hit them up. Yeah, okay, Lucy and Tam they got the 298 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:17.559 plug. Okay, have it after we have a really spicy shitty burrito at 299 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.640 two in the morning outside of our hotel. Oh my god, can you 300 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.519 imagine if that place also sold ice cream? Oh damn, what the hell 301 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:27.480 would that be? I don't know, there's some soup. You're not ready 302 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:38.519 to play that game, but I can playing these games. Let's start on 303 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:42.720 what I'm going to assume is going to be a lighter discussion Little Kiddy, 304 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:47.640 Big City Jeff Grubb, Yeah, you were right, Jane. I mentioned 305 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:51.079 this elsewhere, but very rarely when someone says I think the kids would like 306 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:52.200 this, I always like welcome that, because it's like, I'll give it 307 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.119 a shot, but I rarely do I actually believe that that's actually going to 308 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:00.359 work out. You were one, right, The kids have gone why for 309 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.240 this game. They are playing it NonStop. Emmy's not someone who would spend 310 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.960 a ton of time with a game that isn't Mario right now, because she's 311 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:11.119 back on way, way way back in the Mario bandwagon. And even then, 312 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.039 she's like, I'll just kind of like poke around. This is a 313 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:15.400 game. It's perfect for that. It's like, just if you want to 314 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.440 just mess around and poke at the world and go in the store and knock 315 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.960 stuff down, you could do that. And as she's been doing that, 316 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.200 she's slowly been acquiring the skill to actually play like this cute little open world 317 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:29.400 game, yeah, where like I'll go over it's like, oh, you 318 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.680 got a new hat and you found oh you found one of the like the 319 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:34.279 ducks that you have to take back to the to the Mama duck or whatever. 320 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:38.000 And it's like I just wasn't expecting her to have the patience for it, 321 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.480 and it just completely fits with the way I think a little kid wants 322 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:47.759 to play games where it's mostly a sandbox mostly a playground, very low stakes, 323 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:49.799 no real enemies. A couple of things get in your way, but 324 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:52.920 that's fine. It's not like the end of the world. There's still plenty 325 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.039 of other things to do. And in the meantime she is like figuring out 326 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:56.839 how to play it, and it's been really cool to see, and so 327 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.519 I've been occasionally helping them, and I'm enjoying it too. It seems like 328 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:07.000 a really cute game. I think it's untitled Goose game is definitely the primary 329 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.160 like point of comparison, right, and it feels a little bit less refined 330 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.440 than untitled Goose Game. But it's also more open and more and even more 331 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:17.759 playful than that game in a lot of ways, where it's like you can 332 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:19.240 just kind of explore it on your own terms, and so I kind of 333 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:25.240 appreciate that. Is there anything like stray tonally was so different and it was, 334 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:26.519 you know, saying something and it was like a dark, you know, 335 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.039 dystopian thing. But just in terms of locomotion, is it anything like 336 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:34.119 that in terms of like the way that game nos, Yeah, this is 337 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.359 like the way you would imagine an animal moving around a city, the way 338 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.480 you would want them to move this. That's how they move in this game. 339 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:44.359 It's like the jump is like you hold down B and you like place 340 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.279 your pause before you jump, and then you let go and it does that 341 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:51.200 jump. And that's like not exactly quite as active as I would imagine, 342 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.000 but that's very handy because it enables you to make all these jumps from like, 343 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:56.319 oh, you're on an air conditioner on the side of a building and 344 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.119 you want to jump to the next air conditioner. You can actually place the 345 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.480 jump, you know, pixel perfect, So I really actually end up liking 346 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:04.640 that. And just the way the cat moves around. You can hold down 347 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:08.759 the right bumper button to give them the zoomies, which is the sprint button. 348 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.440 It's like cute stuff like that, and it all feels really nice. 349 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.440 It's, you know, again not quite as refined as some of the games 350 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.279 in the genre, but all the ways it's like maybe a little bit janky 351 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.079 are never a problem, and sometimes they're just kind of like, Oh, 352 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:26.599 that's that's silly that that's happening. I feel like we are in dire need 353 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:32.400 of more exploration animal games that aren't taking themselves too seriously. Yeah, So 354 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:36.920 this is like a popular genre for like the asset Flip games on mobile or 355 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:40.720 something like that. You'll get like, you know, basically the GTA of 356 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.079 Cat games and it's just the shittiest city you've ever seen. And this like 357 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:49.640 terribly animated cat moving around and like the placeholder characters to go mess with or 358 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.359 something like that. And it's like if Goat Simulator was actually like fully bad 359 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:56.160 is what those games are. So to have one of these that actually have 360 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.640 someone with an idea of how these games should work, I'm along and make 361 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.200 this has been really nice. Those g t A Cat games instead of sandbox 362 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:11.119 games, would you say they're litterbox games? Yeah, okay, yeah, 363 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.160 I see what we've done here. But like I honestly thank you, thank 364 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:21.559 you twelve podcast points for everyone listening right now. I have been thinking about 365 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:27.000 going and playing mister Mosquito. Yeah sure, yeah, let's go. I 366 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:37.039 got a copy right here. Yeah I didn't Mosquito, let's go. Oh 367 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:38.319 man, what do you want to know? I have to now? I 368 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:42.519 feel like that would be your Marvel name. That could be a delight club 369 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:48.920 for jan It's awesome. What have you played it? I've only ever seen 370 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:55.079 screenshots and oh analog there's a risk reward, Like, man, I want 371 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:56.319 to pill up this blood too, but they're about to swap me. Man, 372 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.079 it's just a thrill a minute. It's great. You get remote control 373 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.200 and fuck with the family. It's great. Well that's what That's what I'm 374 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:08.079 getting at is that I miss weird animal games. And I know the untitled 375 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:11.799 Goose game wasn't the first to do that in a long time, and grub 376 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.720 there's probably a bunch of mobile games and indie games, but like, what 377 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.680 about we just explore being animals? Uh? What if I just want to 378 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.640 be a bear climbing a tree eating some honey. I've never played Tokyo Jungles. 379 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:23.880 Yeah, people, Now people in chat are saying that, Okay, 380 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.240 I'll do that. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, mister jansqudo Okay, that 381 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:36.640 doesn't even asquito. Mister Mosquito shoa, that's closer. It still doesn't work. 382 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.279 I did not expect to get a big pop for mister Mosquito, and 383 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:45.000 that anytime that I want to see this, I've been thinking about, like 384 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:52.079 digging into the PS two void of just miscellaneous games. Adventures of Cookies and 385 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.359 Cream go Off. Do you ever play Katamari de MASSI of course. Oh 386 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.480 yeah, yeah, very formative game. Yes, it was a good system. 387 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:03.200 If you just want some weird hitting gym stuff raw danger flip nick, 388 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:10.319 yeah, get raw Dangers come to a pointy point you do. Yeah, 389 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.960 let me see what the what they even call raw Danger on the Wikipedia. 390 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:18.359 It's an action adventure survival game. Okay, yeah, it's a sequel to 391 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.440 Disaster Report. You know, Disaster Report, right. Yes, It's like 392 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.200 you're a waiter and you're working like a thing and then it starts flooding, 393 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:26.920 you know, and then's like, who what are you gonna do about this? 394 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.240 Okay, Broad Danger? Yeah, maybe we should just like, uh, 395 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.759 perhaps devise a wheel and a virtual wheel with a bunch of PS two 396 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:42.480 titles and just spin it. Yes, I like it, Yes, a 397 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:47.039 virtual wheel, a shoot wheel? Perhaps? Did you like to build this 398 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.720 conversation a lab to get Dan excited about more awake than I am right now? 399 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:59.279 Look at this wheels weird PS two games. He doesn't need roids ideas, 400 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.880 there we go. That's that's why in another life, uh, Dan 401 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.720 would be like a prize fighter boxer, and then then I would be his 402 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:12.519 like hype manner. I'm smelling Saltsan's just a copy of mister Mosquito stitch, 403 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.319 you knowing the Fight Night mini game. Between rounds, I'm tapping the back 404 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.440 of his head to tell him how many fingers the ref is holding up one 405 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.920 in the middle. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, Jeff Grebb, 406 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:29.240 you've also been playing another game called crypt Master. Yeah. I just started 407 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:30.799 this, and I this is the one that we keep saying, Oh, 408 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.200 it's like Typing of the Dead, and it's not quite. It is a 409 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.240 game you play with your keyboard by typing him words. Uh, it's okay, 410 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:42.759 Yes, you play with your keyboard. Everyone's getting hold on here it 411 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:49.079 comes my pop. Not as as mister Mosquito over here, but you're look 412 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.160 his head though, yeah, vascular his hat pops up a centimeter. It 413 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:03.480 just rises up on the steam because tell me more about your keyboard game. 414 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.720 So it's a it's a dungeon crawler, you know. I'll just I'll do 415 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.440 the anecdote that I thought was was interesting. So you go up to things 416 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:12.599 like chests and you need to figure out what's in them. And there's a 417 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:17.799 Narration character who's like a necromancer who goes along with you and he doesn't remember 418 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.119 ship, he can like describe what he's looking at. You got to type 419 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:23.200 it in, and so it's like actively typing in words to do stuff in 420 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.759 the world. And that means like, oh, so when I need to 421 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.519 attack something, I'm typing in hit. But I got to this one statue 422 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.680 that is like a save statue and could replenish your life, but she only 423 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.640 works with the living, and all my characters are dead during the Land of 424 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.039 the Dead. And so the guy that I'm with is like, well, 425 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.000 what if we desecrate this thing? That would work. I'm like okay. 426 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:45.680 So he's like, all right, do something descrate. Of course, the 427 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.680 first thing that comes to mind is like pe or piss, but I'm like, 428 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.839 I don't want to be I'm just well, okay, I thought I 429 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:53.799 bet it would work. But instead of like you know what, I'm gonna 430 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.519 go with something a little bit sillier and even more silly than that, and 431 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.880 I'm gonna type in fart and see if that works. So I typed in 432 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.279 part and the game just lets out the most enormous fart sound and I was 433 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.480 like, that's perfect. This thing just fell apart. You did it. 434 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.000 You've totally desecrated this thing. You should do that. We should destcrate more 435 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:11.440 things that way. I'm like, oh, okay, so the game is 436 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.960 like predicting the way the player is going to react to the things that sets 437 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.279 up and accounts for that. And it was it's super cool. It's super 438 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.480 a little scribble nazi like, yes, definitely, don't say it that way. 439 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:30.200 Rephrase that, rephrase that, don't don't. Oh yeah, a different 440 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.799 game. It's a different game, sure, different difficult. Yeah, we're 441 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.680 wear different suits and uniforms. Yeah I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 442 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:45.920 it's scribble not adjacent. Yah, Like there we go. I don't 443 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.279 know. It's really cool. It's got a cool style. I'm into it. 444 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.640 I'm gonna keep playing it, but I just kind of feel like I'm 445 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.119 scratching the surface of this one. That's cool. Games should have like a 446 00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.079 uh like a like a like a type test, like a per minute that 447 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.039 besides your you know, difficult points or something like that. Right, Oh 448 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.559 okay, that'd be cool. Yeah. Nothing aims me up than taking like 449 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.279 an aptitude test before starting a game. Well it's not. It's all in 450 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.920 good fun. I mean, you go to monkey type dot com and you 451 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:19.720 have yourself a little contest with yourself and well, was it Halo that that 452 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.960 did the thing of like you know, they told you to look up and 453 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.799 then depending on how you move the stick. I always like that yeating. 454 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.240 It's like, yeah, that's very smart. Yeah good, I think I'm 455 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:30.839 infamous did that too, Yeah, yeah, there was a handful of games 456 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:37.799 that tried that, Moving from the Dead to the Dread Dan Reikert Red Delusion. 457 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.400 Yeah, this is one that didn't normally seem like it would be up 458 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.759 my alley, but bunks from playing a lot. She's a big, big, 459 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.599 longtime Morowin fan, and it's very very much based on that, and 460 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.240 like I didn't hop onto Elder Scrolls until Oblivion, Skyrim all that stuff, 461 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.359 so I thought it'd be interesting to try out because she was really high on 462 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.160 it. And man, it's got a hell of a look. Hell of 463 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.440 it, Like the audio design incredible. I was really into what I played 464 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.279 early on, but unfortunately I did run into a bunch of bugs and stuff 465 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.319 both on my PC and on the steam deck where the steam deck is where 466 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:12.480 I had the problems. This is why I haven't been playing this one. 467 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:17.240 What was your What was your problem? So it is I tried to make 468 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:22.799 the look the look stick feel good, and it doesn't. It doesn't ever 469 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.759 feel good. So what happens is if you're moving the character, uh, 470 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.880 and then you try to like look right, left, up, down, 471 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.440 it'll have it'll be very sluggish. And I turned up the sensitivity a ton, 472 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.200 and that would like, yeah, if I'm standing still, it makes 473 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.920 it more sensitive and that to make it feel better. But then when I'm 474 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.039 move in again, it's that sluggishness comes back in and it made me feel 475 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.000 crazy, and I posted this on Twitter. A developer said this is a 476 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.920 CPU issue, specifically that it would definitely affect the Steam deck and they're going 477 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.680 to try to have a fix for it. So I'm like, okay, 478 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.200 great, I'm gonna put this to the side and I'll come back once that 479 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.480 works. Yeah. Mine, mine was totally different, and it was like, 480 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.759 you know, to select items and weapons and things like that, you're 481 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.559 supposed to use the deepad and I got all these items and potions and throwing 482 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.279 knives and stuff like that, and deep Pad wouldn't select them. So like, 483 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.480 the only way I could throw up throwing knife was like to go to 484 00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:07.920 the menu and select it and then it would just throw it from the menu. 485 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.279 And it's like and I showed Bong, She's like, yeah, that's 486 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.880 that's not right. So yeah, so I'm just gonna wait. It's it's 487 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.599 something I want to go back to. And and Bonc has had a pretty 488 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.440 you know, smooth experience with it and it's loving it, so like I 489 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.480 know there's something good there. But yeah, I'm just a little of style, 490 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.480 like that first character you come up against where he's like in that pain 491 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.119 prison and he loves it, is like, yeah, I'm doing the iron 492 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.519 on your thing. Yeah, should be as lucky and it's just leaking like 493 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.519 a jpeg of blood and it's like, yeah, that's that's cool. That's 494 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.440 Yeah, it's got a really cool vibe to it, like red skies, 495 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:43.839 mushrooms everywhere. It's just a just look up like a screenshot of it. 496 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.519 It's got a great, great vibe to it. But yeah, I'm gonna 497 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.119 hold off until some things get ironed out. And when I google like bugs, 498 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.400 you know, dread delusion, there are a lot and there are a 499 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.559 lot of different ones, so I think, and it's been an early access 500 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.000 for a long time, so like hoping they get this stuff fixed. Yep, 501 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:00.599 I really want to play it, but I'm in the same boat. 502 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.119 I'm not going to play until I know at least the things that are plaguing 503 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:07.319 me are working. Ye speaking about vibes, guys, I've gone all the 504 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:12.079 way in into this, the vibes of this game. I started playing in 505 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:19.200 black and white because that Ghost of Sushima it was hit the PC. Uh 506 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.039 was it UPF for Thursday? It was UPF right. We did the cod 507 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.759 ups, Yes, yes, that's fine. We did Legends Mode and Ghost 508 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.599 of Sushima and that was very, very fun. I don't think I gave 509 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:36.599 Ghost of Sushima an honest chance when it came out for whatever reason. I 510 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.119 think maybe it was busy at the time that it came out in a very 511 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:45.480 busy year where there was like Final another Final Fantasy game and other titles that 512 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.680 I just missed it. And boy, howdy do I regret that? Because 513 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.240 this game is pretty as heck. Oh yeah, it looks real nice. 514 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:59.240 It runs awesome on PC. Yes, runs so well. The Steam deck 515 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.359 work very well in the Steam deck as well. Yeah, from planet I'm 516 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.519 just said, I said to forty five frames per second, so it doubles 517 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.480 up to the ninety. Looks great, And I did the thing where I 518 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:15.280 put in Japanese so in English subtitles, so I'm sent me forced to pay 519 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:20.280 attention to what's happening in the story, and I'm really enjoying my time. 520 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.880 The combat is different than what I was expecting it to be, because I 521 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.320 was kind of expecting either more of a dark Soul's approach or more hacky, 522 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.760 slashy type of type of delio. But this one, your Samurai strikes a 523 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.079 balance at feeling a little floaty but also like heavy, and I kind of 524 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:44.000 enjoy that you don't quite have to worry about like a staminameter super hard like 525 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.000 you would in Securo. But I do miss the fluidity of a game like 526 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.320 secu Row. But here I feel like I'm nailing the Perrys and like the 527 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.320 Dodges. A lot Arkhamish combat, right yea c area. Yeah, I 528 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.599 don't remember Infamous combat that well, but like that was a lot more kind 529 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.400 of project, like you're not right up, like there is some melee stuff, 530 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.039 but you can kind of hang back and shoot shit, you know, 531 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.880 Okay, okay, but yeah, it does feel very Arkham adjacent. And 532 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.119 then I'm just having a as opposed to final Fantasy seven Rebirth, where I 533 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.320 avoided all of the side stuff just try and mainline the story. I'm doing 534 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.320 nothing but the side stuff in Ghost of Tsushima just because I enjoy being in 535 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.000 that world and I feel like they're doing a really good job at like riding 536 00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:30.480 the line between heavy cinematic approach to a lot of the presentation and having it 537 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:37.400 also be a fun game to play. It is making me very excited for 538 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:42.960 the new Assassin's Creed game and hoping that they can nail that, because you 539 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:50.000 can approach some portions of this game stealthily, but it isn't as fun to 540 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.199 get through it as it is to just like speed through a village and just 541 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.639 like hot parry a bunch of dudes and then just make your way through. 542 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.280 I do want to play more of that Legends mode though, do too? 543 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.199 Yeah? Me too? Between the Yeah, the Eldon Ring co op stuff 544 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.039 and Ghosts last week, it was like, oh man, there's some good 545 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.360 four player stuff we were doing, and I wanted to do more of both. 546 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.360 Yeah. Yeah, So I've been playing it as well. I'm just 547 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.840 gonna ask you, like so that when you get into a mission, I'm 548 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.920 like, okay, yeah, I kind of like this, but it also 549 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.000 does the thing where it's like we're going to have the title card played before 550 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.519 this mission and then I'm like, okay, cool, and it's good. 551 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.039 Is it going to be like super in depth. It's like, no, 552 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.000 that's gonna be kind of what you've been doing. You're going to go and 553 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:30.800 fight some guys, pick something up, and then we're going to send you 554 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.559 to the next thing on this quest line. And I'm not really complaining, 555 00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.880 but it's like, I do feel like sometimes it like really takes the presentation 556 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.639 very seriously, and I wonder if that's going to get grading on me after 557 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.480 a certain period of time. So far, I'm like, eh, I 558 00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.880 keep picking it up, and every time I get like the steam deck out 559 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:46.440 and I turn it on, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm playing 560 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:51.320 Ghost of Sushima. I'm maintaining a lot of that momentum in a way that 561 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.239 I didn't when I was playing it on the PS four originally, And I'm 562 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.880 really enjoying it. Are you do you do any concern that, like the 563 00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.239 variety of what you're doing in the world will be lack now that you mention 564 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.880 it that part. I enjoy it, but it also does kind of break 565 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.719 up the pace in a negative way where it does take me out of it. 566 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.880 And then I can imagine if say you were trying to undred percent this 567 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.599 game and you were just constantly being pulled out to the title cards and like, 568 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.559 hey, this is what you gotta do. At least it's done very 569 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.159 well. It's not like half assed in any way. I can see that 570 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.960 getting very annoying after a while. That being said, for as much as 571 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.840 I'm enjoying the game just because of the scope in how big it is, 572 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.800 I don't think I'm gonna get close to finishing it at all. I'm just 573 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.000 enjoying the time that I'm in it now. And perhaps if we check out 574 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.599 more of the Legends mode, I think that we had figured out how to 575 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:51.760 ping things on consoles a long time ago. Ye, My one gripe with 576 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.840 the Legends mode. Besides it being a tad difficult and a little bit grindy 577 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.000 to begin with if you're trying to jump in with woar folks, is the 578 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:06.320 pinging systems just odd. Having to hold down a trigger and the yeah, 579 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.559 and even like the emoting and stuff I had to ask every time. It's 580 00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.920 like hold L two and then do this. It just seemed clunky. Yeah, 581 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.880 very minor gripes, but like, I do enjoy the combat after getting 582 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:22.119 adjusted to it, and I just hate archers. Yeah you're annoying in the 583 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.159 single player game too. Yeah. Yeah, I always run for them first 584 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.800 and take them out. And the first thing I upgraded for my character was 585 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.920 the standoffs. So now if I do a standoff, I can kill the 586 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.400 first guy and then two follow ups as well. So every battle I'm starting 587 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.880 off, I'm taking out three people immediately, and that's cool. But then 588 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.000 the next thing I'm looking at now is Okay, I need to be able 589 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.679 to block arrows from a distance. That's what I need right now. And 590 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:47.920 we got that upgrade in Legends and that was great, Like, Okay, 591 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.639 well this is a separate character, so I'll do that here. How do 592 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.000 you feel about like the way the game is presenting the stealth stuff? It 593 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.840 is like, this is something your character finds dishonorable and distasteful and has to 594 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.079 do it, and I'm like, I it makes me kind of not want 595 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.280 to do it, even though I love stealth stuff, and why like why 596 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.480 do I care? But it's like I don't know the way they're framing it 597 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.679 makes me a little bit less willing to engage with it. It almost feels 598 00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:14.320 like a designed cop out of like, Hey, we know that this isn't 599 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:15.559 as fleshed out, so we're just going to tell you it's bad to do 600 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:19.360 it, don't do it. Yeah, and I've done some of the stuff. 601 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.960 Suff're right, there's not like too much to it, at least at 602 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.559 the beginning. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe they build on it. 603 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:28.559 It feels odd that they're framing it like that and like, are you 604 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:34.320 encouraging me to do stealth or not? But it does just wet my appetite 605 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:40.159 for like the possibilities of more stealth focused Assassin's Creed in the Future totally was 606 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:47.079 tensh you ever good? Ah? I liked I think the first ten shoe 607 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.440 the things you could do, like it sounded fun in like a magazine. 608 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.559 It was like, oh, you're sneaking across rooftops and stealth games. Oh 609 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.840 yeah, no, oh Dan, Dan, Okay, yeah, sorry, 610 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:06.079 yes, I sucked at I like you a lot on a PlayStation wall or 611 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.840 a PlayStation rice off a roof and hoping a guy sees it and waiting for 612 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.119 twenty minutes. Yeah that's great, damn, but that's just like throwing sand 613 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:19.039 at someone. That's fun fi dust. Yeah, that's the good time, 614 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.440 right there. Yeah, I think I'm looking for I'm looking for a stealth 615 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.519 game, but I don't want, uh, Tom Clancy, I don't want 616 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.199 what's face? You played metal Gear Solid? Yes? Yes? Okay, 617 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.800 okay? I mean, god, the what are the what's the mount rushmore 618 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.880 stealth games? Uh? It's metal Gear, It's splinter Cell, It's it's 619 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.079 Sly Cooper. Is it hit Man and hit Man? Oh? Oh yeah, 620 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.480 up hit Man because I wanted the hijinks. Oh game, Well, 621 00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:50.599 go back to hit Man. That's always the answer. I think the thing 622 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.840 missing and hit Man for me is just like the ease of mobility, Like 623 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.199 I just want to be able to climb ship and just like hot perch and 624 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:05.400 hide. Sure, remember the Sabageur. I don't remember that? All right, 625 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.599 I'll look it up, because no, I'm gonna sound like a crazy 626 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.239 person on a podcast. I can't afford that. I've been thinking of the 627 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.960 Sabotury lately and being like, I feel like people didn't really talk about it 628 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.639 when it came out, but it seems kind of interesting. Who made it? 629 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.679 Was a study that shut down? Is it the Mercenary studio? They 630 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.679 had like a gas mask as a logo. What the was that? It 631 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:28.440 was a pandemic that the pandemic from Yes, yeah, yeah. The Sabatour 632 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.840 offers free DLC of boobs on day one. On the first day the sabatur 633 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:37.679 is available, Electronic Arts will offer downloadable content which removes the nipple covering pasties 634 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.440 from the performers at the nightclub in the game. Wow, do you know 635 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.360 what this was? But it's a code that comes on a piece of paper 636 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.480 in the fiscal copy of the game. So when you use it, you 637 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.920 get the nipples. So if you sell this game used the person would bind 638 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.239 the used copy would not get it, and if they want to see the 639 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.800 nipples, they would have to pay an extra ten dollars. Oh, so 640 00:41:54.800 --> 00:42:00.280 it's a pass. So it's like during the online pass This was a dark 641 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.320 days, like yes on my passes and stuff like that. What happened to 642 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:13.000 games cult? What happened? We used to have Rumble Roses, Shade, 643 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:20.119 pop Lolly saw whatever. The DLC pass is one of the greatest accomplishments pop 644 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:25.840 chain saw. There we go James Guns, Lollipop chainsaw. Uh gre you 645 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.639 mentioned a second ago about you changed it to like the frames for a second 646 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.079 on like the limit on steam deck. That's something I've been thinking about lately 647 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.119 because I wasn't really aware of how useful that was, because you know, 648 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.360 the steaming deck with battery and stuff like that, and a lot of times 649 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.039 I'm playing Animal wel or an indie game. We're like right now, the 650 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.000 main thing I'm playing on there is wind Waker HD. So it's like with 651 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.800 emulation, emulation if you sometimes with some emulators if you turn down the frame 652 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.079 rate will mess up the music or mess up the game a little bit, 653 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.360 but any modern game should be just fine with it for the most part. 654 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.920 Okay, So, like what is the process? You basically just like load 655 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.079 a game up and then you just bring the sliders down, like yeah, 656 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.519 that's right on fine or it's not. Uh yes, so I would Yeah, 657 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.920 you just hit that button that brings up that side menu you go over 658 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.679 to, like it it's like the better battery icon or perform it's like TDP, 659 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.079 it's frame rates. Yeah, the first thing you would want to do 660 00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.519 is turn down the frame rate limit. That would that's the one that's going 661 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.840 to be the safest for you to mess around with. And if you do 662 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.440 that, if you set that to thirty, it will just render thirty frames 663 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.280 per second, and then it'll triple it to ninety, so it'll still look 664 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.280 pretty good. On the steam deck. Forty five is what I go for 665 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.199 most of the time though, because it looks fantastic. There's a tripler, 666 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.039 but like toggle, so like I go to, it'll just do it for 667 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.559 you. On math, what you're going to look for is on this on 668 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.159 the limitter, it'll say thirty frames per second, and then in parentheses it's 669 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.039 going to say, and here's how fast the screen is refreshing, and it's 670 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.360 it's refreshing. It ninety hurts basically, and that's what you want. You 671 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.280 want to do thirty or forty five. If you need to mess around with 672 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.599 it beyond that, feel free you can. But those are the ones that 673 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.519 will divide evenly into ninety. Uh. Then if you really are worried about 674 00:43:54.519 --> 00:44:00.639 battery, you can then go into TDP and like set the maximum total draw 675 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:02.880 power to be like, oh yeah, fifteen watts is good enough for this 676 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.599 game, and it will never use more than fifteen watts and will be good. 677 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.760 But that's that's a process where you're gonna want to go online and google 678 00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:10.800 and see what you say. So I don't even know, like I don't 679 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.079 have a sense of like what six watts is versus fifteen you know, yeah, 680 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.440 yeah, yeah, I mean if you're playing, like honestly animal, 681 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.880 well, I didn't do this. I probably should have said it to like 682 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.119 six watts. It probably would have been just fine. But you want to 683 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.039 like have the lowest number possible if you're trying to save battery life. But 684 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:30.000 this is like if you're really trying to squeeze out an extra ten percent of 685 00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.920 battery life because you're on scat trip, It's it's not worth thinking about too 686 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.960 much because a lot of this can cause battery anxiety and that's not worth it. 687 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.400 Okay, okay, good to know. Also, wind Waker HG is 688 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.559 fucking awesome on there. It runs great, I own it. I can't 689 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.880 wait for it to beat because then that's when Nintendo will announce it. So 690 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.079 for the song, I've been thinking about that because that's what I went fucking 691 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.239 Metroids. I played it on Dolphin and then it's like, oh great, 692 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.760 then they put out remastered, so ye yeah, yeah, but it's awesome 693 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.119 on there. Whin Waker turns out still extremely good. Yep, I'm going 694 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.639 to play it on the Steam deck. I think it turns out. The 695 00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.880 other thing that is still extremely good is elden Ring. Yeah. Yeah, 696 00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:07.159 I beat Millennia. Oh how was that? I barely got hit. It 697 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:14.039 was great. Friends they're not friend yeah, I don't know them, but 698 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.400 somebody else was there. Uh yeah, I tried, yeah, but uh 699 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:21.000 yeah, I streamed Millennia did the fight first. I'm doing the Halleck Tree. 700 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.800 I'd never been there before because I was too annoyed by the like invisible 701 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.360 assholes in that area where you have to like light the lanterns and the frozen 702 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.000 doge or whatever. And I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna actually 703 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.599 do this because I'm in an elden Ring mood lately, and uh yeah, 704 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.159 that game is fucking awesome stuff that rules. I was watching you play and 705 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:39.239 I was like, I should stop playing Ghost of sushimn go play this instead 706 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.000 doing that. That's why I think I'm not going to finish Ghosts of Sushima. 707 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.360 Also is because of elden Ring and my my TikTok algorithm has just gotten 708 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:53.920 influenced by elder ring lore, and I realized I don't remember Squat from that 709 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:58.880 game story wise. Yeah, and then I fell into a deep lore hole. 710 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.440 If anyone video we doing that multiplayer thing again this Friday, I can't 711 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.119 remember. Yes, yeah, that rules saying that we're gonna take out Deliberate 712 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:13.000 Godfree all right, hell yeah, I'm excited. Like that is like where 713 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.519 I'm at with that game. I am looking forward to it in every way. 714 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:17.400 Let's go play more multiplayer, give me more Shadow of the Urg Tree 715 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.239 and if it's just picking it up playing it on the steam deck, the 716 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.280 base Vanilla game. At this point, I am happy, like that game 717 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.599 rules. So there was perched, like get to a new area that I 718 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.400 hadn't seen before, and like I beat this game twice. I played like, 719 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.960 yeah, two hundred hours of this game, and I'm walking into places 720 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.519 now it's been out for a couple of years. I'm looking around like this 721 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.079 is, how does this look so fucking good? How was this game in 722 00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.639 every way? And there's so many different builds you can do, there's so 723 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.800 many giant optional areas and bosses and everything. Just fucking works and is great, 724 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.039 and it is that the bar is so fucking high after that game. 725 00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:55.679 Yeah, I As I was looking up guides to build a better version of 726 00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.239 my original character, I was called choice paralysis because it's like, ooh, 727 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:05.119 this is this looks cool. I could have like a twelve foot Katana and 728 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.840 then you look over and it's like this one shoots blood and this one has 729 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:15.599 the power of the moon. And as I was scrolling through videos, I 730 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.400 came across a random lore one and I had never seen this village that this 731 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.639 person talked about, so I just found where it was on the map and 732 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:27.760 then I explored it. So you're right, Dan, I have no idea 733 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.360 how this game got made. I mean, it really is just it really 734 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.440 just come down to the best artist in the world worked on it. They 735 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:38.880 really are that talented. Yeah, and I'm very, very excited and terrified 736 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.599 for a Shadow of the Ur Tree. I was kind of dreading it because 737 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.440 it was like, oh, I don't need to go back to Olden Ring, 738 00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.480 And it turns out all it turns out we all need to go. 739 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:50.679 We shouldn't have left. Baron asked me my most anticipated game, this is 740 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:52.719 it? I didn't say this I should have said Shadowed the ur Tree. 741 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:58.320 That's my most anticipated wow ty praise. That's where I'm at with that it's 742 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.239 eligible for Game of the Year. Yeah, sure, sure, Okay, 743 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.960 there's there's no rules. Yeah, there's no rules. Really we could design, 744 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.280 but yes, that would be eligible. What if they had a cart 745 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.480 racing mode to it? Okay, then it's definitely eligible, and then it's 746 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.679 overqualified. Okay. You know it's also in Armored Course six. I want 747 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:15.840 to go back to that and play that. Yeah, game so good? 748 00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:21.800 Yeah it turns out yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't know. It's 749 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.119 just I've been seeing that pop up more and more on my feed. I 750 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:28.280 think it must have gone on sale on Steam or something, and I think 751 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.440 more people are playing it because it's it's popping up more frequently. I'm just 752 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:35.280 like, God, what a good game. Speaking about good games, guys, 753 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.039 last game I have here on the rundown. I can't say that this 754 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:43.079 is this is how I feel about the game. But last game we're talking 755 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:51.239 about today before we go to break Samuela Saga Hell Blade two. I don't 756 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:52.920 like this game. I don't like this game. You've been playing it? 757 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.519 Jan, Yes, Okay, all right, good, all right, because 758 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.000 I was like, we can't just have damp but talk about it. I'm 759 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.360 not going to. You know, it is the most anti me game possible. 760 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.280 And I see that some people are liking you, and that's great, 761 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.960 but like immediately when it starts and the first thing is my character is hurt 762 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.239 and I'm holding up on the analogsticked, and that kind of goes for like 763 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:15.960 thirty minutes, like you know, all the things I hate about Red Dead 764 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.719 Redemption too. How it's like, you know, everything's methodical and laborious, 765 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.400 and story seems to take precedents over everything. This makes Red Dead two look 766 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.760 like Mario Ottisy. It's shit. I need to play this. I haven't. 767 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:34.599 I just need to get the code unlock it. I'm you know, 768 00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.400 I'm not a story guy. I don't care about story or whatever. But 769 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.039 you are. Okay, So yeah, Jared, tell me, tell me 770 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.440 how you're feeling about it, Jane, Okay. I think everything that I'm 771 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.920 not enjoying about the game is purely about gameplay. Yeah, I think, 772 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:59.199 I think. But also, you ever, you ever have like like a 773 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.679 critical blockbuster movie that people tell you like, oh you got to see this. 774 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.599 This is kid, this is like, sure, if you're gonna blow 775 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.719 your mind, it's gonna change your mind. I kind of felt that with 776 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.000 help Send You a Saga, hel Blade one. I didn't check out hew 777 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.440 Blade one, but I was seeing a lot of hype with hell Blade two, 778 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.239 and then I'm playing it, and then the whole time, I feel 779 00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.679 like I'm politely nodding my head and like gritting my teeth of like, yeah, 780 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.800 this is cool. Did you do the story recap at the beginning when 781 00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:29.719 it's like I fell asleep? Damn? Okay, okay, yes, because 782 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.320 I fell asleep. I just liked the first game also, and I was 783 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.880 like, I didn't play the whole thing, all right, if I'm gonna 784 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.159 give this one a shot, let's see the story recap. And I hit 785 00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:38.679 that, and I swear to god, it felt like fifteen minutes of looking 786 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.039 at rock, like literal rocks. It's like slow pans of rocks. Right, 787 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:44.880 I'm not making us up. No, no, no, no, 788 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.920 sleep. It was just nature b roll. Yeah, what are you talking 789 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.719 about? That's crazy. No, It's like a rock with like an etching 790 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.280 of like a lady with a sword on it and some guys like and then 791 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.559 she was mad at her dad, and you know, it's like, okay, 792 00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:01.239 great, it's it's wild how all over the mass I know the response 793 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:05.800 is to this game. I was shocked because I think that's good. Yeah, 794 00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:07.800 it's interesting, it is, But like I was shocked today when I 795 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.400 saw the Metacritic because like, I've talked to numerous people that I knew were 796 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.559 playing at pre release, and one hundred percent of the people I talked to 797 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.280 were like, I cannot imagine playing any more of this game. This is 798 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.199 laborious as hell. You guys have been having those conversations. I was here, 799 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.639 and now I'm like, oh man, it's gonna be another one of 800 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.199 those weeks. And then yeah, I guess I've heard since then a couple 801 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.239 people are like, no, no, I'm I'm into what this is doing. 802 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.679 I'm okay, so maybe we'll be more mixed. I wasn't expecting it 803 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:31.920 to be able to even get into the eighties on Metacritic now, which is 804 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.599 where it's at, right, So it is it's like eighty one. Yeah, 805 00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.000 so okay. I think a big part of that is it does look 806 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.119 as technologically impressive as they promised, Right, That's at least something I mean 807 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.159 it. Yes, I mean there's like frame rate stuff and it definitely does 808 00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:51.239 to like Order eighteen eighty six, like letterboxing and everything it is like. 809 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:52.840 But I mean yes, the facial capture and all that stuff, it looks 810 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:58.960 it's the fidelity is incredible for sure in it. But the what you do, 811 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.440 like even beyond like the slow stark dam where it's fortunately to have like 812 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.400 the the you know, I guess are you like limping for a long time? 813 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.480 Is that we usually limping for Yeah, Dan is not exaggerating. I 814 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:08.880 remember it in Wolfenstein too, where and he was in a wheelchair. It's 815 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.159 like, oh man, I wond how they're gonna pay this, and then 816 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.320 they're like, just give you a gun and it's an awesome shooter in a 817 00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.199 wheelchair. Market should be like we're doomed. Twenty sixteen was like let's go 818 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.760 gun, go kill right. Yeah, he wakes up it immediately's just like 819 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.719 I'm gonna start ripping staff part Now. This is a lot of limping forward 820 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.239 in the rain and grunting and hearing the voices in her head and then there's 821 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:30.360 a rock and then it's like and I thought like, oh did I trigger 822 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:31.920 a cut scene? And I've just put the controller down because I just wanted 823 00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.440 to be doing anything else. And then she stopped moving. I was like, 824 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.199 oh no, it wants me to play right right, it's a whole 825 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:43.000 holding it up. So that's like, that's definitely a turn off hearing about 826 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:47.400 that, Like I thought we were not maybe beyond that, but certainly looking 827 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.800 at it, maybe you know, in the room, get rid of like 828 00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.800 press forward to play the video that's on your screen. Yeah, yeah, 829 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.599 go ahead. And it feels very like, I don't know, it feels 830 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:00.440 fair like the things that you know so rightfully gets criticized for doing a lot 831 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.480 of that stuff, Like I feel like a lot of Uncharted and Last of 832 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:06.679 Us and I didn't like, yeah, rag Rock, I didn't like, 833 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:08.000 you know, like this is just like all again, all of those are 834 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.760 Mario otasy compared to this. Yeah. But the flip side for me is 835 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.800 like all those games you listed off, Dan, like all of those were 836 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:21.639 also fun to play regard right, So so the gameplay I've heard the combats 837 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:24.960 disappointing at the very least, and the puzzles are also kind of like they 838 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.599 just fizzle out, Like what's the deal, what's the problem with these things. 839 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:32.960 The combat, it feels like the it feels like you're just having duels 840 00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.760 one after another of like one on one fights with enemies and their rise. 841 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:44.760 No, because then like it feels like there's more stakes there and it feels 842 00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:50.000 like all those battles mean more here are there versus how it is in hell 843 00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.840 BLA two Because it's like, all right, I'm guess I'm fighting this nameless 844 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.800 dude. Now just got to parry him a couple of times and then fight 845 00:53:54.920 --> 00:54:00.800 until the cinematic ending of this word you're per and stabs them in the throat, 846 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.119 and it just it just doesn't feel good. It just feels very simple. 847 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.159 Is the other aspect of it is, because okay, cool, I 848 00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:13.960 could parry this or block this or dodge this, and sure you can get 849 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.360 staggered if you dodge, or you can get hit when you dodge instead of 850 00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:22.840 blocking. But it just doesn't feel fun to go through these combat encounters. 851 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:27.840 And with the puzzles, I think people's main complaint is that they're just some 852 00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.679 of them at least are just like the perspective locking style of like here's this 853 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:37.840 glyph, walk around the environment until you match the environment to match this glyph 854 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:43.079 and then it it's very generous with it where it does it super duper fast 855 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.639 of like, oh I think this is it? Am I? Oh okay, 856 00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.159 No, the game said it's it. I think that's what I was 857 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.239 surprised by, because like, that's part of what I hated about the first 858 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:53.719 one was that, like I felt like I was just slowly going to a 859 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.760 thing and then I was telling me to like look at things until I unlocked 860 00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.320 the next path to go to. Now it's like, surely they're gonna add 861 00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.639 like another element to this and just going to be like yeah, slow combat. 862 00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.679 Then I look at a thing and then I move forward and it's like, 863 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:08.599 no, this is just that again. You know. Yeah, then 864 00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.920 that sounds even more antiquated than it would have when hell Blade one came out, 865 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.800 Like that sounds pretty old fashioned as a solution for your very story driven, 866 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.920 narrative, interactive movie game that you're making. Other people have found other 867 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.800 ways to do that that maybe are more interesting than this, and so yeah, 868 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:31.000 that's disappointing. But like the game visually looks very stunning, and you 869 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:35.079 know, I get bored with the combat aspect of it. But some of 870 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.960 the combat is presented very well. It has like amazing lighting, it just 871 00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:45.800 does not feel amazing to play. I mean, like, hey, I 872 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.199 do recommend if if you are if you do want to play hell Blade two, 873 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.719 despite all the things that we've said, I do recommend playing it with 874 00:55:52.760 --> 00:56:00.400 headphones because they do the binaural bivial audioinural goes all around your head. Yeah. 875 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:04.559 Yes, so you know with Senua, she'll have like voices in one 876 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.159 ear and then the other ear, and then sometimes it's like mixed in the 877 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.199 middle and then you do a whole mix with other voices like that. That 878 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:15.519 aspect incredibly well done. Yeah, it's I when I was looking at the 879 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.320 reviews this morning, it was kind of a moment of like, Okay, 880 00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.800 yeah, if people come to video games for different things, and that's not 881 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.119 necessarily like I'm glad people are liking it, but it's like, you know, 882 00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:29.239 for me, it has none of the things that I come to video 883 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.000 games for. But apparently it's resonating with some people, which hey, good, 884 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:37.199 good for them. But yeah, yeah, it's like a grub go 885 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:38.800 ahead. Oh. I was just gonna say, like Jen, like someone 886 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.239 in Chad like a one thousand X resists and stuff. Like that, Harold 887 00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:47.000 howibout. But recently we've gotten a handful of games that are less interested in 888 00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.920 like just hitting you over the head with constant gameplay and are trying to tell 889 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.039 a story, like I think I think thirteen thirteen Sentinels is a game where 890 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:58.679 yea, the very story heavy. The difference between those games and this for 891 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.760 you is that when you are playing a game, you're bored here or is 892 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.800 it like oh, and also know, the storytelling just works better for whatever 893 00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.800 reason, I think the method of storytelling just works a little bit better for 894 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.840 me in those other games you mentioned, And like, I'm someone that also 895 00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.960 enjoys like visual novel games, right, like I enjoyed Slay the Princess from 896 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:28.039 last year. But here it just feels so heavy handed in a way that 897 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:35.320 it's off putting to me and my taste specifically. And there's portions of it 898 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.760 that remind me of the more recent tomb Raider game where it just feels like 899 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:44.199 gore porn. After a while of like how much stuff can we throw this 900 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.000 person through? Yeah, and I understand like part of that is like her 901 00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.760 journey like overcoming all of that, but after a while, it's just like 902 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:55.559 guys like I just I need a breath in between all of this, and 903 00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:00.280 I feel like there are other games out there that do handle like heavy story 904 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.760 elements, heavy subject matter in a more approachable way that is more palatable for 905 00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.360 me at least. This is just like, okay, all right, we 906 00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:15.639 get it. The faces look really good and like the As someone that does 907 00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:20.280 come to games for a lot of story, I think for me personally, 908 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:24.599 I think I wind up enjoying games that have a strong supporting cast to bounce 909 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:30.880 off of for those character and here there isn't a lot of that, despite 910 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:35.199 like there being multiple voices and Sendu's head and her contending with characters from the 911 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:37.760 previous game. Maybe I'd have a different context if I play the original game 912 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:45.599 and saw like that build for her. Perhaps I don't know, got it 913 00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.239 there was a game I was thinking of that just kind of nailed the story 914 00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:54.360 beats for me immediately, Oh, this senuous saga Helblay two feels like anti 915 00:58:54.480 --> 00:59:00.760 Asaura's wrath. Oh sure, sure, yeah, okay, like that is 916 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:07.199 just bombastic, like dumb not dumb story, but like overblown story anime. 917 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:09.599 And then when you do something it's gonna have a massive effect on what's happening 918 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.480 on the screen. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it feels like the little 919 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:19.480 bits that I'm playing in hell Blay too don't really factor into everything as a 920 00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:24.400 whole again totally, you know, having played the first one, uh and 921 00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:30.119 come up to now looking at this from the outside, think you think what 922 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.360 I'm extracting is like you kind of have to like know what you're getting into 923 00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:36.960 and be ready for that kind of thing, right, Like you don't go 924 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.360 to a steak steak steakhouse and then be like, I'll have a light chicken 925 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:44.920 salad, you know, like you gotta like sit down and like buckle up 926 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:49.559 and be ready to expect what this game is very deliberately gonna throw at you. 927 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:54.239 I don't you know. That's that's my sort of what I'm of the 928 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:59.320 variability in those scores right where some people are just looking for this right, 929 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.400 which interesting. I think for me, the way that Microsoft was positioning this 930 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:08.519 game and how kind of like important and felt to their lineup made me assume 931 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:14.119 that this game would We did a lot of assuming, I to I think 932 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.159 that that may have been the problem here, where a lot of my assumptions 933 01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:20.239 were like, Okay, this is going to be like a bigger, wider 934 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.079 game, to appeal to more audiences, and like this game had a lot 935 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:27.679 of presence in like what the last Summer Game Fest, the TGA isn't the 936 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.159 big music thing. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was during the 937 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.960 TGAs. That was that was during the TGAs. Yeah that was. That 938 01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:38.000 was nuts. Like that was that was just nuts when you were high when 939 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:42.360 that happens, well, obviously I don't go anywhere and not completely blitzed out 940 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.960 of my mind, but like I remember, I was sitting next to Jake 941 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.920 Baldino there and we were just like looking at each other, hugging each other, 942 01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:52.000 being like what's happening right now? And uh, you could feel the 943 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.719 flames. There were flames. You could feel that. And I think it's 944 01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:59.719 like part of that presentation that maybe have negatively colored my my view on the 945 01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.159 game before even jumping into it, is that like I'm being told that this 946 01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.840 is a very important game. This you're gonna like this, this is gonna 947 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.559 be huge, the storytelling is gonna be amazing, it's gonna look great, 948 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:13.480 and then when I'm playing through it, it's like, oh, Okay, 949 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:15.719 I guess I'm just gonna push up on the same. Yes, I think 950 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:20.239 even if like we were making assumptions that were based on our own imagination with 951 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.519 like oh, this is going to be something that stands at the top tier 952 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.519 of gaming at the very least, I was my expectation was, and I 953 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:30.199 think this is fair that they would have evolved on what they did with the 954 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.599 first game to try to bring in a wider audience and improve them what they 955 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:36.599 did the first time around, which I think as a game it was I 956 01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:37.559 think everyone kind of agreed. It's like, ah, listen, you're not 957 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.559 here for the combat, you're not here for for the puzzles. Those things 958 01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:43.320 kind of get in the way of what's good here. It's like, Okay, 959 01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:45.039 we'll make those things better this time. And it just sounds like that's 960 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.000 not what happened. Well, And I remember with the first one they were 961 01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:51.480 saying things pre released that sounded very interesting to me, like they made a 962 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.400 big push for like, oh, you know it's gonna it is Yeah, 963 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.599 so it's like, uh, you know, we're gonna explore you know, 964 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.199 mental illness and a serious time. It's like, oh, that's interesting how 965 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.320 that goes. But also they said like if you die enough times, we 966 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:05.400 delete your save and they just lied about that. Yeah, I just never 967 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.199 was a thing. Yeah, put the kebash on that, I think. 968 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.679 Yeah, like two things that I thought were pretty interesting pre released. The 969 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:14.159 first one just I don't know, I don't I don't think it was a 970 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.159 particularly nuanced great like look at mental health or anything. And also the cool 971 01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:22.000 we delete your safe thing wasn't even real. Yeah, I remember that they 972 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.679 they did that was like a big actfinitely lost a point this for the first 973 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:31.000 game. I forgot about that, You're right, Yeah, Yeah, I 974 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:35.199 don't know. I guess there's just a lot of There's a lot of stuff. 975 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:37.639 Yeah, I think that's so. Yeah. I think that's where my 976 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:39.639 expectations are for this one, where it's like, Okay, you made you 977 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:45.000 did some talking last time, and you didn't follow through on that. Now 978 01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.079 you have a chance to like work on this game for years and have Microsoft 979 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:52.400 resources. Can you follow through this time and maybe do some weird stuff that 980 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:57.280 catches as off guard? And it doesn't sound like that's happening either. For 981 01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:59.639 me. This game was never going to be for me. It sounds like 982 01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.760 my anytime, I'm just like I feel like I am pressing for to make 983 01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.000 a video play on the screen. I am out almost immediately, and this 984 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:12.039 one sounds like the worst offender yet. Yeah, well damn, is this 985 01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:16.559 beginning worse for you than like the crawling scene in middle Gear Solid five. 986 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.760 I mean, look, the crawling scene is definitely not my favorite part of 987 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:23.719 Meddle Gear Solid Fire, but at least it's like, look, I'm obsessed 988 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:27.000 with middle Gear lore. So when I see shit going on, like, 989 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.280 oh, what's with this fire man? Wait? You know it's playing Bowie 990 01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:32.159 music, It's like it was it was drenched and stuff that I'm into, 991 01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:37.480 which is just weird middle year Kajima shit versus this is a world and a 992 01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:39.920 story and a character that I don't care about and didn't the first time around, 993 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.559 versus Metal Gear me having like decades of obsession with this world before, 994 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.159 and so like I was intrigued by what was happening. Not that like if 995 01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:49.920 I was the Restart band and Pain Tomorrow, I'd be like, oh, 996 01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.440 I'm really enjoying this crawling. No, But the first time I was intrigued 997 01:03:52.480 --> 01:04:00.400 at least where I was not here. Okay, yeah, I this feels 998 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.079 like, uh the movie The Northman, and I thought i'd like that and 999 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.480 I didn't like it. I've been thinking about watching that. Would I like 1000 01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:12.320 it. There's there's some cool spear throwing in it that sounds cool. Maybe 1001 01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.639 I'm just like, you know, I'm ramping up my my Aunia tailor Joyfix 1002 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.639 to prepare for furios I got my tickets. Sure, Oh my god, 1003 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:25.559 I'm so excited. Yeah, grub has has any grub backlar any of our 1004 01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:29.960 our discussion here influencing you to to rush out and play it or kind of 1005 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.840 use Yeah, I meant, I meant to play it, you know, 1006 01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:36.440 I just you know, like life gets in the way, you know what 1007 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:42.760 I mean, ice pieces of ice cream gas, you know, Uh, 1008 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.480 certainly I think I will start it. I will. I just got to 1009 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:50.760 see it, you know. And maybe that's the kind of like takeaway from 1010 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:54.480 this thing where like, you know, I don't think it. I don't 1011 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:57.280 think it sounds like a game that you should maybe spend money on to just 1012 01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.280 try it out, right, Like to take away from this, it is 1013 01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.320 on game pass, So yeah, I think I might. I I definitely 1014 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.800 mean to play it because I, like I said, played the first one. 1015 01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:10.840 I am intrigued. I do have a soft spot for this developer. 1016 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:15.719 I I you know how you feel about Heavenly Sword and honestly to the to 1017 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.880 the West, Like, obviously that's GMC. I'm a defender totally. And 1018 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:25.159 I just there's something about this developer that I just have like a very I'm 1019 01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.480 like pot committed. There's something about it that I'm just like I want to 1020 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:30.639 And it sounds like they're going to be making another game that's already on its 1021 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:34.159 way, so that's cool. Just maybe maybe it's not this again, maybe 1022 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:39.880 just maybe it's something else, you know, But yeah, I wonder I 1023 01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:42.440 feel like you and I have a lot of similar sensibilities with games, and 1024 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:44.760 I is it true? Is it fair to say that, like, the 1025 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.800 more something feels like a video game, the more we like it, like 1026 01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:50.079 the more and the less it feels like a video game and more it feels 1027 01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:55.119 like an interactive art piece or storytelling the medium or something like. And I 1028 01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:57.440 think that would make people upset to be like, well, no video games 1029 01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.559 could be those those things, and it's like okay, But to me, 1030 01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:02.519 I know what I think a video game should feel like, and it's I 1031 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:08.400 always go to like way back to Super Mario Brothers versus Pitfall, people could 1032 01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.360 be like, well, no, people could just prefer pitfalls. They like 1033 01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:12.199 the way that feels. I'm like, yeah, but there's a reason more 1034 01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.760 people choose Super Mario Brothers. It's because it feels more honest to our expectations 1035 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:20.679 of the way a character should move through space. And there's something primordial about 1036 01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:26.199 that, and that is what I like. Video games can be universal because 1037 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.719 we all are alive and exist in a physical world that we interact with systems 1038 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:33.400 constantly, and I want a game to try to emulate that and play around 1039 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:36.719 with that space, because that's the space we don't actually get to do stuff 1040 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:41.559 with in real life because there's consequences of hurting yourself or spending money or whatever. 1041 01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:44.480 And video games can play around in that space way more than any other 1042 01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.599 medium. So anytime a game feels like it's shying away from that to do 1043 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.239 something that feels like, well, we're going to be like a movie instead, 1044 01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.000 to me, it feels like a waste. Yeah. Well, even 1045 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.800 in games that aren't like purely cinematically, you know, I'm plan their wind 1046 01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:58.679 Waker again right now, and even that I'm like, at the beginning hour, 1047 01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:00.559 I'm like, I gotta go through this fucking Bill and talk to my 1048 01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.320 Grandma's put on my clothes and shit, it's like I want to get to 1049 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.360 Like that's why I love a Dead Sales, a Mario sixty four, an 1050 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:10.119 Astrobot or something where it's like you're non white where you start a game and 1051 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:11.760 it's just like, let's go, Okay, I'm doing I'm jumping, I'm 1052 01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:14.920 doing stuff. Are the best, Like that's kind of what that's for us, 1053 01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:16.639 you know, And something like this or a lot of the kind of 1054 01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:20.039 big kind of prestige game type thing or the big sony single player stuff like 1055 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.800 it takes we can get there, but it's got to happen, and that 1056 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.039 appeals to a different audience. And I'm glad they're getting their stuff. But 1057 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.840 for me, it's not what I'm here for. Yeah, but okay, 1058 01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.280 so I so I'm mostly on the same wavelength as you both. I care 1059 01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:40.400 very deeply about storytelling in games because I do think it has won me over 1060 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:44.840 in the past before in a way for me to I've just been blown away 1061 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:49.000 by I think you know, if you know me, you know I'm a 1062 01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:54.920 BioShock mark for sure, Like, especially when the first game came out, 1063 01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:58.239 what remains of you Toith Finch, I think like really affected me in a 1064 01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:00.800 way that I was like, wow, you can do this, Like this 1065 01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.840 is possible. But as we've grown, and as our tastes have evolved, 1066 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:08.039 and as games have evolved in the way they kind of like present narrative, 1067 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:13.119 I do think, uh, in the same way that like trends age out 1068 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:15.800 of vogue and become you know, trite and and just sort of like, 1069 01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:19.560 you know, lame. Right, Like I there hasn't been, in my 1070 01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:24.399 opinion, a big enough jump in the way those two things are married, 1071 01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:28.119 right, Yeah, And I think and I you know, it's obviously been 1072 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:31.039 a topic of conversation for a while with like you're uncharted and your last of 1073 01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:36.600 us is this and whatnot? Like certainly certainly that's swinging too far in one 1074 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:40.600 direction, right, So like where does it make sense? How do you 1075 01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.119 do it? That's what I'm interested to see is like being awoke, being 1076 01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:47.159 like having that epiphany again of like man, they fucking kind of did it. 1077 01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:50.439 And I do think there's shades of it in games in places. Yeah, 1078 01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:56.439 right, I had that last year with Alan Wake two. Yeah, 1079 01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:01.119 exactly that, and and look like I do I think sometimes it's swerved out 1080 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:02.960 of its laying a little bit, and it was just like, okay, 1081 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.399 well we're entering like the walkie talkie kind of thing a little bit. But 1082 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.439 but yes, I agree jan like for me for my money, like as 1083 01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:15.359 a whole package. Yes, that was that was the sort of like next 1084 01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:17.800 milestone, right for sure. I like it when the story is happening around 1085 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:20.239 you, Like I remember, really when I played the first half Life, 1086 01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:23.960 I remember I was so taken by like you know, you'd just be walking 1087 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.640 past the room and you'd look in the window and you'd see something happening with 1088 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:29.239 the scientist and something's breaking intough the ceiling or whatever, and like it's like, 1089 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:30.920 oh shit, I just happened to be looking at that. And sure, 1090 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.600 of course they make it so you're looking at that, but like I 1091 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:34.479 never felt like I was taken out of the game. And I yes, 1092 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.319 I realized how hypocritical this is as someone who's obsessed with metal, you'r solid 1093 01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:41.119 the most. Put down your controller and let me talk to you game ever, 1094 01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:44.279 But that's an anomaly. But I like it when the story is happening 1095 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:48.600 around the game and you can choose to partake in as much little as you 1096 01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.039 want, yeah, or Metric Prime excuse me, not for but yeah, 1097 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:56.000 sure, yeah, yeah, we've been playing of course. Yeah. I 1098 01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.520 think for me, when I start thinking about like where does this go and 1099 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:04.479 what is like the default, I think like story feels like when you go 1100 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:09.000 in that direction, there's a you have options. But I think it's like 1101 01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.079 you're gonna see trends like, hey, we are going to be like a 1102 01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:13.720 Prestige movie. Are we gonna we are gonna be more like Prestige TV, 1103 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.399 And that'll kind of come and go in waves, Whereas I think there's something 1104 01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:21.199 more timeless in my opinion about a game that just goes and lets you lets 1105 01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:26.479 you be free and if there's a story, you're experiencing it like like as 1106 01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:30.119 an ambient factor like you were talking about Dan, And I think like there's 1107 01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:32.920 a reason we had Zelda go from the legend of Zelda on the nes and 1108 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:35.800 kind of return to that just go be free in the world with Breath of 1109 01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.720 the Wild, Yes, and it felt like, oh okay, no, 1110 01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:42.000 they got back to where they need to be. This is they got sidetracked 1111 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.439 by a lot of other stuff and they pigeonholed themselves and now we're back to 1112 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.800 a point where it's just go and play the game and experience this playbox or 1113 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.239 the sandbox that we set up for you, and that felt more rewarding to 1114 01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:55.720 me in the long run. Yeah. Yeah, if I were to research 1115 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.800 Breath of the Wild right now, I would be having fun way faster than 1116 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:00.920 I would in like a game that's also one of the best, like Okerina 1117 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:02.239 of Time. You start Aquarina, and every time I started, I'm like, 1118 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:04.560 all right, and listen to this fucking tree talk about Perry's for a 1119 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.720 while, you know, like where's breadth the Wild is? Hey, go 1120 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:11.680 have fun? Yep, yeah, it's And I think it's a default for 1121 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.239 me. I think that's like we will always come back to that point in 1122 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:17.399 between those those like that, like that default, we will say, okay, 1123 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:19.600 let's try this with story. We're inspired by this, And I think 1124 01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:23.439 that's completely fine. Of course, the game game developers could do whatever they 1125 01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:27.760 want with that stuff. Yeah, I think, you know, for and 1126 01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:30.920 I think most normal people, which we're dying breed, but I do think 1127 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.560 like you sort of just have to like let things happen to you, right 1128 01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:39.760 like play what seems interesting and do what you feels right and always getting a 1129 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.880 shot, and we're gonna be different moods all the time, right, We're 1130 01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.720 gonna want something different every once in a while, for sure. Totally for 1131 01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.239 me, Like I you know, I'm always drawn by an aesthetic. I'm 1132 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:51.399 always drawn to a specific sort of aesthetic that like pulls me in. And 1133 01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:56.239 maybe that's the first seal that gets broken, and then from there on it's 1134 01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:57.880 like, oh, you know what, this wound up being like a really 1135 01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.720 great story with you know, a great game play. You have you have 1136 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.439 to be able to take a few boxes, right, You can't just lean 1137 01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.560 into one lane and just sort of have that be the only thing you're really 1138 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:10.880 excelling at. But yeah, this is, uh, this is good conversation. 1139 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.880 I'm glad this game it's good to hit now. To have like this 1140 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:19.920 kind of reaction to I Like, I think it's fucking awesome that reviews are 1141 01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:25.279 like one hundred. Oh yeah, Like I think that's I think that's crazy 1142 01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:27.800 because most big releases now, it's like they're all going to be kind of 1143 01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.359 within that like one point five you know Metacritic, you know, sick, 1144 01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:35.520 Yeah, like very well respected outlets like one hundred, very well respected Outlets 1145 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:40.880 fifteen and you're like, wow, that's all over the place. What's going 1146 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.600 on here? Yeah, anyone who's into it, maybe I'm happy for it, 1147 01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.840 absolutely yeah, not for me. Yeah, we're not yucking anyone's gums 1148 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:50.960 here. No, No, don't yuckr yums. Also, I exactly yeah, 1149 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:56.840 I think Backler, you're your point of like I had the wrong assumptions 1150 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.399 going into this game is one hundred percent spot on. Uh, because like 1151 01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:02.279 when I go into a visual novel game, I know what to expect. 1152 01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.119 I don't think. May also, maybe because of my lack of familiarity with 1153 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:10.079 the series, I didn't know what to expect with Send You with Saga. 1154 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.920 The whole time. I was expecting a bunch of rats to come up. 1155 01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:18.520 But I think I was confusing this game with a Plague's tail requiem No or 1156 01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:24.800 Willard. Sure, yeah of course, but man Plague's tail, I can 1157 01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:27.640 get down with that. Shoot me a bunch of rats. That ship was 1158 01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:30.039 dope. Games do occupy a similar space in my brain as well. Yeah, 1159 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:33.720 yeah, uh, Send You with Saga Hell Blade two. It's on 1160 01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:36.479 game Pass. If you have Game Pass, go check that out, or 1161 01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:40.640 don't check it out, go go check out Mister Mosquito for the PS. 1162 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:48.000 Just just download it and it folks. We're gonna take quick quick break and 1163 01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:54.000 we'll be back with video game news and an in depth spoiler cast for mister 1164 01:13:54.119 --> 01:14:05.600 Mosquito. What was that was that talk with the family. It's ladies and 1165 01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:11.680 gentlemen and non binaries. I want to start this news segment by informing everyone 1166 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:17.359 that Charles Xavier is a fucking terrible person. Yeah, listen, he's Professor 1167 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:23.560 X men related x men really professor X Professor X Professor X fucking sucks and 1168 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:27.800 he's always sucked. Cyclops is still cool anyway. Jeff Grub the News, 1169 01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:30.680 Yeah, what a weird segue. No, no, no, there wasn't 1170 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:39.760 really a segue there, which is a declarative statement. I have news in 1171 01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.960 front of me. Let's start here with this thing that kind of popped off 1172 01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:45.239 after we started the show, I think, or at least I didn't see 1173 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:50.079 it until afterward. Looks like ig In Entertainment is acquiring Eurogamer, Games Industry 1174 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:54.079 Dot Biz excuse me, VG twenty four to seven, Rock, Paper, 1175 01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:59.760 Shotgun, and more. As part of this acquisition, there will be redundancies 1176 01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.239 made, so people are going to be losing their jobs at UK based organizations. 1177 01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.800 According to Christopher Dring, who is the head of games B to B 1178 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:12.560 and publishing over there at the Gamers Network, Hey yeah, more sort of 1179 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:17.720 like media consolidation, people getting laid off. It's wild out there. I 1180 01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:19.760 kind of don't know what to make of this, other than I know I 1181 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:24.199 knew Gamers the Gamer Network was like looking for someone to acquire them for quite 1182 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:28.279 some time. Yeah, are they Have they said anything about whether they're planning 1183 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.920 unfolding people under the IGN banner or if they're trying to keep them operating under 1184 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.319 their own names. Okay, I think they're going to try to keep them 1185 01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:39.720 operating under their own names. For the most part, Gamers and Gamer Networks 1186 01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:43.439 publications are games interested? Up? Is Eurogamer, Rock Paper, Shocking, 1187 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.239 VG twenty four to seven and dice Breaker the business Also, Yeah, they 1188 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:49.239 looks like they're just saying right now that they are going to bring those brands 1189 01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:55.880 under this this Igen Entertainment umbrella that includes IGN, Map, Genie, How 1190 01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:59.239 Long to Beat. I didn't know they own that either an Humble bundle, 1191 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:01.279 So yeah, it sounds like they're going to add more to their roster, 1192 01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:05.439 doesn't necessarily sound like they're going to shut those sites down immediately or anything like 1193 01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:10.600 that. But this is never a great sign because you know, these companies 1194 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:15.600 lose interest over time and someone could be left out to dry. But also, 1195 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:17.560 you know, it was getting hard out there for websites like this because 1196 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:23.000 of the changes made to Google recently and search engine optimization that's left a lot 1197 01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:26.479 of these sites reeling anyhow, So it's not been great out there. This 1198 01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:32.079 is not going to be some worse fate necessarily, Yeah, it's just God, 1199 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:36.600 I just worry about our peers across the industry and then correct Also, 1200 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:44.319 just like you know, the amount of different voices in the space dramatically getting 1201 01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:48.520 cut down, yep. I mean historically there are always so few full time 1202 01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.640 positions writing about or talking about video games, even you know, going back 1203 01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:56.800 to the nineties, and like that has shrunk so dramatically in recent areas. 1204 01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:00.399 So like, yeah, anytime you hear about consolidation or just less opper these 1205 01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:04.960 less openings that that does suck. Yeah, apparently not included in this is 1206 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:11.399 a video video games chronicle who I used constantly for news. I think they're 1207 01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:15.199 the best site for video game news. I don't necessarily know what their relationship 1208 01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:19.520 was with the Gamer Network because it was I don't think they ever fully owned 1209 01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:24.720 VGC, but there was a partnership there. So maybe that partnership is not 1210 01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:28.159 going to continue, is what they're trying to say here. Either way, 1211 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:30.279 I hope DGC is able to continue. I hope all these sites are able 1212 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.119 to keep on as much staff as possible. It's it's a weird one though, 1213 01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:39.920 And it's like, man, that IGN still owned by Ziff Davis. 1214 01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:44.159 Ziff Davis still out there making acquisitions. I had to say that one. 1215 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.560 Yeah, yeah, Like what else do they do? Well? They were 1216 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:57.840 they like when I started at snet that the building that CNET's offices were in 1217 01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:01.319 on twenty eighth in par And that building used to work at it was called 1218 01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:08.399 the Zif Davis building. And I guess like PC PC mag was there. 1219 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.239 Okay, here's I'm on zip Davis's website now, sorry, go ahead, 1220 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:17.840 Okay, Yeah. So I I feel like, and again I could be 1221 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.239 misremembering, but I feel like the answer to me was always like like, 1222 01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:25.960 oh, the question being like, how is Zif Davis still this like dark 1223 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:31.039 puppet master for media? And it's like there's some I remember the answer always 1224 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:35.560 being like, well, they have this like very monopolistic B to B thing 1225 01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:42.079 that like everyone relies on. And I don't remember any other like specificity there. 1226 01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:45.680 I'm looking at their current portfolio on their website here, so gaming and 1227 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.399 entertainment. They've got IGN, Humble and Humble Games Technology. They own Mashable, 1228 01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:55.640 PC mag Performance Marketing, ZIF Davis, and Aberdeen Strategy. They also 1229 01:18:55.840 --> 01:19:00.640 Oukla. Why do I know KLA people? Yeah? Yeah, okay, 1230 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:06.880 so okay, so that runs the speed data down detector. They have down 1231 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:14.600 detector metrics retail me not the promo code excite baby dot com operas dot Com 1232 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.479 Baby Center. Of course, all the stars are here, Oh, Cybersecurity, 1233 01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:21.800 Strong, VPN, mar Tech, they Wow. They have a lot 1234 01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:27.119 of brands and they just got some more. It seems also shut down a 1235 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:30.000 lot of bad Yes, oh yes, yes, I mean that's the thing, 1236 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:36.119 right, Like, no acquisition unfortunately finishes without and that definitely hit here. 1237 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:39.920 Yes, and and and again these companies weren't in great shape. They 1238 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:43.239 they had been laying people off before they got acquired, but that you know, 1239 01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.760 getting acquired was not going to slow that down. And definitely is going 1240 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:47.600 to cause some redundancies here where it's like we don't need you, so that 1241 01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:51.279 doesn't make sense to keep you. And that's always the challenge with the acquisitions. 1242 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:57.079 Yeah, I hope these sites are able to keep going. I've visited 1243 01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:01.319 all of these properties before, h I've used all their news before on Gameless 1244 01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:05.560 Mornings things like that. So we don't need an industry where we have even 1245 01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:11.159 fewer people covering games in a serious way. And that that's also across Europe 1246 01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:14.880 as well, right right, I worry about how this hurts the industry over 1247 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:19.319 there as well. Still around Edge is still publishing a magazine every month. 1248 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:23.960 Oh yeah, keep that. Yeah they just get that. Yeah, they 1249 01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:25.760 just did a really good cover. I can't remember what it was, but 1250 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:28.039 I'm like, oh, I kind of want to get that. Yeah, 1251 01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:30.760 they're still doing that. I hope they are able to keep doing that exactly. 1252 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:35.279 Yeah, this is the kind of thing where it's it's a down period 1253 01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:39.560 in twenty twenty four. You know, if these companies had been able to 1254 01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.800 like maybe last until twenty twenty five, they probably could have got a better 1255 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.159 price or dictated terms a little bit better. Because it's just going to be 1256 01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:50.279 kind of like advertising revenue is down across the board for everyone and it's not 1257 01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:56.920 bouncing back very speedily. So that definitely is what hurt these companies. Okay, 1258 01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:59.560 let's see here. Let's get to the news I had written down here 1259 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:03.479 in two agrees to deal to buy Hogwarts Legacy Mortal Kombat Switch port Studio. 1260 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:08.880 This is here, let's start hearing. Nintendo intends to finalize the acquisition of 1261 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:14.880 Miami based Shiver Entertainment, the developer behind many significant Nintendo Switch ports. Nintendo 1262 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:18.079 announced it has agreed with Shiver's current owner, Embracer Group, to acquire one 1263 01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:23.680 hundred percent of the company's outstanding shares, making it a fully owned subsidiary. 1264 01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.520 Since twenty twelve, Shiver has worked on porting and developing software for the Switch, 1265 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:31.279 such as Hogwarts Legacy and Mortal Kombat eleven. Nintendo aims to secure high 1266 01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:38.359 level resources reporting and developing software titles by acquiring Shiver's experience development team. That's 1267 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:42.640 probably what is going to continue happening here is Shiver, at the very least 1268 01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:45.319 is very familiar with the technology that Nintendo uses to make the Switch and what 1269 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:50.039 is required to port games to that platform, and the likely scenario here is 1270 01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:56.319 Nintendo makes Shiver available to major third parties so they could port their games. 1271 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:00.720 Yes, that the Mortal Con I'm bad Switch version. I remember thinking like, 1272 01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:02.640 how the fuck is this going to work? And like, I like 1273 01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:05.680 the way they did it, and because like instead of just trying to make 1274 01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:10.039 it, you know, the high fidelity and just chugging frame rate wise and 1275 01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:14.000 everything, it's clearly like less detailed. It doesn't look as good, but 1276 01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:16.279 it ran pretty well. I remember like being very surprised by that. So 1277 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.279 I don't know, that seems promising to me. Yep, I mean and 1278 01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:23.960 really, anyone getting those games to run on switch in any way is like, 1279 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:27.520 okay, you your magicians, So you clearly know something, even if 1280 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:30.359 it's not the best way to play those games, which oblieves obviously it is. 1281 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.039 And uh and Mortal komont eleven's ports more Commont eleven on Switch wasn't as 1282 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:36.039 bad as like Mortal Kombat one. That one was really ritten by some one. 1283 01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.560 Yeah eleven is the one I'm talking about. Yeah right, yes, 1284 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:42.560 exactly, so, and that was that was actually pretty impressive. I don't 1285 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.600 know, yeah, go ahead, Uh do you do you see this as 1286 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:50.520 Nintendo figuring out a way to pad out the rest of their year until like 1287 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:55.600 the Switch two comes out of Like it might be hard to like rely on 1288 01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:58.880 them to do something that's that quickly. Sure, Hey, you guys want 1289 01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:01.640 to make a Metroid, We got this prime for over here if you want 1290 01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:04.159 to finish that up. Yeah, no one's working on it, it's just 1291 01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:10.399 sitting on a shelf. Yeah. I think this is probably like the likely 1292 01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:15.720 scenario here is they will have them build out official tools that become part of 1293 01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:19.119 the Nintendo Switch to development Kit that make it a lot easier to port games 1294 01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:23.279 from X eighty six to what the switch uses, which is, you know, 1295 01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:27.439 an arm based Nvidia processor, And then the team will be there like 1296 01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:31.159 as a support staff for these teams, or in some cases, this team 1297 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.680 will just straight up take a game that is on another platform that's big and 1298 01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:39.159 do all of the work to get it ported over to a Nintendo platform. 1299 01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:43.239 You know that they'll only be able to do so much of that at any 1300 01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:45.640 one time, so don't expect like every major game to hit the switch to. 1301 01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.640 But I think, you know something, there's a world in which, 1302 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:54.800 like Nintendo's like it probably does benefit us to have grand Theft Auto six on 1303 01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:58.880 the Switch to at some point maybe this helps facilitate something like that, and 1304 01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:01.920 that's something that like Iron Alex, he was doing a lot of Iron Gaxy 1305 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.800 is a is definitely a port studio. That's one of their main work for 1306 01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:10.159 hire programs. Yes, absolutely nice. Yeah they're not the like the only 1307 01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:13.640 one in that space. A Panic Button is another one that does a lot 1308 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.159 of huge ports to the Switch. They did like Rocket League and a bunch 1309 01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:21.239 of others. And there's a team that did who did a Saber Interactive did 1310 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:27.840 the Witcher and that that was impressive, and that's another team that's now on 1311 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:32.119 their own out of Embracer. Also, the studio probably wasn't like some massive 1312 01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:35.399 acquisition. They were probably pretty pretty small, and that seems to be where 1313 01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:38.960 Nintendo's at with acquisitions, where it's like, if it's a small team that 1314 01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:43.520 serves a strategic purpose, they'll go ahead and make that move. But recently 1315 01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:46.880 for Akawa, the president of Nintendo said that they have no intention of like 1316 01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:51.720 fully getting into the we're acquiring everything sort of mindset. So this doesn't speak 1317 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:55.279 to that. This is right in line with what they've been doing with their 1318 01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:58.840 money when they when they have the opportunity to make a purchase for a relatively 1319 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.039 small amount of money. All Right, Rockstar in Take two have given a 1320 01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:05.279 timeline for Grand Theft Auto six. It is scheduled to release in the fall 1321 01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:10.399 of twenty twenty five, as confirmed by Take two's financial report for the fiscal 1322 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.560 year of twenty twenty four. The game's trailer, released in December, amassed 1323 01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.720 over one hundred and ninety million views, surpassing the lifetime views of GTA five's 1324 01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:23.359 debut trailer. The trailer also revealed the game setting in Vice City and introduced 1325 01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:27.880 a pair of protagonist. Take two CEO Straus and Zelnik express confidence in a 1326 01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:31.840 meeting that announced the launch window for Grand Theft Auto six, Despite acknowledging potential 1327 01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:36.640 for slippage in the industry, he emphasized the focus on creating an unprecedented experience 1328 01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:41.760 with Rockstar Games, striving for perfection. Yeah, but he says, they're 1329 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:44.439 confident that the game will actually launch in the second half, Oh, in 1330 01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:48.159 fall of twenty twenty five. Yeah, a big game coming at some point. 1331 01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:51.880 There there was a time where this game is expected to launch before March 1332 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:55.760 of next year. Now it's going to be you know, sometime probably like 1333 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.279 October November of next year. You guys, think you're going to actually be 1334 01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:03.840 playing this game next fall? Come on, if we do. Maybe it's 1335 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:08.560 a thing where like online is fully launched in like the spring, you know, 1336 01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:10.920 sure, Yeah, it's like all right, we got a campaign or 1337 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.880 got the story mode ready to go. But yeah, because remember five with 1338 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:17.479 online Online had rough Yeah yep, yeah, I mean that's part of that 1339 01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:21.279 was like they just didn't believe it online until it launched it became massively popular. 1340 01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:24.800 Yeah, they might know what they're doing over there, so yeah, 1341 01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:28.880 huh, take your time, guys. Yeah, yep. I think that's 1342 01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:30.279 the likeliest thing here is that they're going to get to there and they're like, 1343 01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:32.479 if we took a little bit more time, it'll be that much better 1344 01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.520 and that'll be worth it because it is totally gonna make its money back. 1345 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:40.359 This is like the one guarantee exactly. This is the only short thing in 1346 01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:44.960 video games. Yep. So you know, and I guess, I you 1347 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:46.920 know, I guess because of that, you can ask the question of like 1348 01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:54.640 why even just have this thing, Like why even have this like completely unpredictable 1349 01:26:54.760 --> 01:27:00.720 roadmap, Like what what in service of what their earnings were. They're like 1350 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:05.560 either revenue or their profits were down pretty like in a pretty harsh way this 1351 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:11.199 last quarter. And uh, they once said they were expecting eight and you 1352 01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:14.039 know, they're telling investors, hey, we're expecting to make eight billion dollars 1353 01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:16.560 in revenue, and now they've they've wound that down to like five billion. 1354 01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:20.159 So they have to like give investors like, okay, yeah, well clearly 1355 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:24.840 we've moved or moved up Grand Theft Auto, which we once thought was going 1356 01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.920 to launch in this fiscal year, but we're promising it's going to come out 1357 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:30.560 next year, So please don't freak out and sell your stock. Right, 1358 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.199 But like that's my point. It's the one thing that's like to me, 1359 01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:36.760 this information is more or less like built into the market. Oh yeah. 1360 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:40.359 But so it's like investors are so stupid. They're like just worried about them 1361 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.520 gets getting scared and running away like, oh, it's not coming out next 1362 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:45.399 fiscal year either, I'm panicking and selling, right, there's there is the 1363 01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:49.199 chance for that. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. I don't know, 1364 01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:55.319 man, I just feel Yeah, it's again, it's an anomaly, 1365 01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:58.960 this franchise. So it gets like this weird special treatment. But yeah, 1366 01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:00.640 what is like, It's like, this is clearly the behemoth. Is this 1367 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:04.399 game on the horizon? Like what is number two? Switch to? I 1368 01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:09.760 mean software? Yeah, like an individual game, oh, Elder Scrolls. 1369 01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:12.560 I mean maybe so nebulous at this point, but like, yeah, that 1370 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:15.119 is an announced title. That's probably the second biggest thing I'm gonna say. 1371 01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:19.239 Mario Wow is like I feel like it's a known quantity. I mean, 1372 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:24.159 Mario doesn't sell like Skyrim numbers? Does it? The last one? It 1373 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:28.039 did? Mario Oyssey stold like where I would get to like thirty million copies 1374 01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.600 of the last mainline? Well yeah, yeah, mainline of course. I'm 1375 01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:32.039 like, yeah, that's what I meant. What do you think I'm in? 1376 01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.560 Like, were you talking about Dan? I wonder well yeah, the 1377 01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:39.760 side Ones Dance right, Oh my god, Dan was talking about Juty. 1378 01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:42.560 Mario games are like some of some of the best selling games of all time, 1379 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:45.960 even like the new Super Mario Brothers games. I'm not I'm in like 1380 01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:49.039 an Odyssey two or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sign Mari. 1381 01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:54.119 I'm not playing this game. I'm having a normal conversation. Yep. And 1382 01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:59.319 you know, fuck is wrong? Early morning? Uh, Morning Drive DJ 1383 01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:03.039 over here is fucking firing off a soundboard like some freak from the nineties to 1384 01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:06.560 get your question, like, what is after grand Theft thought of six? 1385 01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:10.279 What is there? I mean the answer is it's a Call of duty again, 1386 01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:15.199 like as depressing as that is really, like like a FIFA mad Oh 1387 01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:24.039 sorry, we didn't mean to attack your baby back baby. Look, Nicki 1388 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:28.800 Minaj change everything. Sure, she changed the game. There's a there's a 1389 01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:32.800 clear line in the sand that's been drawn. We're living in a post Nicki 1390 01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:36.560 Minaj world in Call of Duty, Folks, be a part of it. 1391 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:41.680 Yeah, I mean I think when I I like Star Wars Outlaws looks promised 1392 01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:45.000 to me, that's like so far away from what these games are. Yeah, 1393 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:49.039 all right, let's see here to your wider point, though, Dan, 1394 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:51.960 that is what the industry started waiting for. Investors are like, you 1395 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:55.800 know, once GTA six is here and once switched to is here, we'll 1396 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:59.199 feel better about things again, and that's when people will probably let off some 1397 01:29:59.239 --> 01:30:01.439 of the pressure on the end industry. But that's kind of grim until then, 1398 01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:06.840 So we'll see, all right. Two K will reveal a sequel to 1399 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:12.840 one of its biggest and Most Beloved Franchises next month at some sabatur Right, 1400 01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:15.720 that's got to be the saboteur that're referring to, right, and yeah, 1401 01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:20.560 biggest most beloved franchise is how they described it. It'll be at Summer Game 1402 01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:26.840 Fest on Friday, June seventh. What is your guys' initial reaction besides the 1403 01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:36.600 obvious answer of the saboteur that's right. Yeah, it feels like a two 1404 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:41.359 K game. I get what you're saying. Have they announced that BioShock No, 1405 01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:46.359 so, BioShock seems like the most like it's gonna be Borderlands. Okay, 1406 01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:51.239 everyone sit down and relax, don't mafia. No, it's not no. 1407 01:30:51.680 --> 01:30:58.000 Here I am with the BioShock take. I just think, like selfishly, 1408 01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:00.479 this is just about me. I'm only gonna talk from my position, 1409 01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.560 in my position alone, the way my relationship with BioShock. I can't have 1410 01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:09.840 a BioShock four from the two Like, which two K team is gonna make? 1411 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:15.279 It was like, I can't, I can't remember Laren Man Boston, 1412 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:21.000 what is that irrational? No, well it's shut down. You're gonna have 1413 01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:27.560 You're gonna have BioShock four maybe, and then you're gonna have Judas, and 1414 01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:31.520 I'm just gonna be there's just gonna be that we're looking at a potential that 1415 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:35.920 situation, and I'm and I just I think that I'm sure someone's thought about 1416 01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:39.319 it, but I haven't heard anyone say it out loud yet. Yeah, 1417 01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:44.119 I mean, like Judas is a is BioShock? Right? Like oh yeah, 1418 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.560 I mean, like come on, so like that's all. I just 1419 01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:49.239 want to say that out loud, and I want to get everyone's take, 1420 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:53.560 you know. Yeah, I mean I think that BioShock will be able to 1421 01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:57.680 have its own place because it's got that brand familiarity, and Judas will have 1422 01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.560 to be a really good game to get attention. But there's chance that could 1423 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:04.039 do that. Uh, it's probably BioShock. I think there's a chance that 1424 01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:10.479 it's Civilization seven because that's actually bigger than all those games, uh and also 1425 01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:13.880 beloved in a way where, uh, it's more beloved than those games. 1426 01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:16.319 Actually when you talk about talk to that audience, but this feels like when 1427 01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.319 they're saying this sort of thing, uh, they're speaking to a certain audience. 1428 01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:24.159 It's probably expecting Bioshocks or or you know, it's real hot right now. 1429 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:30.399 Is class based shooters maybe it's time to bring out the battle Born battle 1430 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:34.079 Born hand bloodies again. Yeah, the real hobby grade games are back now, 1431 01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:38.159 all right, let's go. My money's on BioShock for this one. 1432 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:41.159 I would bet on BioShock. I'm going to keep betting on odd ones. 1433 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.079 Duke Nukem, it's gonna be Duke that they're gonna try that at some point 1434 01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:49.199 they do. There's a young Duke that was in development for a little bit, 1435 01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:57.720 like a Young Sheldon, but was happening a long time ago. God, 1436 01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.840 my parents watch Young Sheldon like it's something to do, and I'm just 1437 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:04.720 like disappointment viewing, Buddy. I just it's just that show is apparently so 1438 01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:12.119 popular. I don't get it. And so TV is so fucking insane right 1439 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:17.920 now. I don't understand what's happening. Let us pitch a show. Wait. 1440 01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:21.079 So like, also, my parents, not to make it about my 1441 01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:24.319 parents, but they're out for the day, so I could scream as loud 1442 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:32.760 as I walked and fuel these guys, these these too, they fucking watch 1443 01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:39.439 Everybody Loves Raymond on dude, some network, some TV network, and these 1444 01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:45.880 people are sitting there from like four pm to seven pm watching these reruns and 1445 01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.039 they are getting served all the commercials, and I'm just like, I don't 1446 01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:53.880 understand what's happened? What is it with old people? And everybody loves Raymond 1447 01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:57.119 because like when it was airing, it's my grip for them. My show's 1448 01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.840 not bad, but like my grandpa loved it so much. Ye Danny like 1449 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.199 that you watch the Raymond Show? And I was like no. He literally 1450 01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:08.760 said, there's something wrong with your brain. The brain Garrett Peter Boyle, 1451 01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:14.640 like, you know, I get it, like getting you, yeah, 1452 01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:19.560 Raymond that here, Yeah, I know, watch out, watch out everyone. 1453 01:34:20.279 --> 01:34:23.399 That was just less than five seconds. But I think it's just like, 1454 01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.520 I don't know why you're watching so many commercials? Why are you watching 1455 01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:30.600 so many commercials? Why are you watching so many commercials too? Is that 1456 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:33.600 a thing with your parents? Oh? Your generation doesn't watch commercials because my 1457 01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:36.359 dad will be like, oh, it's like that one commercial for car shields. 1458 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:40.479 Like, I don't know what you're talking about it right, you watch 1459 01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:44.520 commercial Jesus. Yeah, your dad has like a masculinity weirdness. They don't 1460 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:48.760 know there's that, but my parents are. I just don't understand. Like 1461 01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:54.279 I talked to my sit him down once a week and we talk about this 1462 01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.920 and he's like, I'm gonna try and do better. But it doesn't. 1463 01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.119 It doesn't manifest into any forward moving progress. All the good news is all 1464 01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:05.439 these video game companies are considering putting commercials in the video games, so we 1465 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:11.840 never thing for Connect. I was excited about donald to keep playing the game. 1466 01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.439 You stand up in Neil McDonald's I was fucking ready for that. I 1467 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:19.359 do that anyway. Yeah, that's just a burst forward. I can't control 1468 01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:30.600 myself break out. It's like somebody said, mister mosquito all right's move was 1469 01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:34.680 what was that headline? When? Sorry? Sorry keyboard. Valves next game, 1470 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:40.319 a hero shooter called Deadlock, has seemingly leaked images of what is reportedly 1471 01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:44.399 Valve's next game called Deadlock, are circulating on social media. It appears to 1472 01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:47.960 be a six v six hero shooter with tower defense mechanics. It's like it's 1473 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:56.279 an Overwatch mobile basically mobile Watch mobile watch. Because that I don't know. 1474 01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:57.880 At a certain point, if you just like, well we got to make 1475 01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.880 a game, this is what you come up with this Valve. I know 1476 01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:03.560 that they also have Team Fortress, yeah, but they can't make Team Fortress 1477 01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:08.920 three because then I'm noticing. I'm noticing this is not Half Life three? 1478 01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.119 What's that? Yeah? Again, they just can't go to a third game, 1479 01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:15.039 so they had to make a new one. Uh yeah, I don't 1480 01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:16.640 know. Yeah, Monday Night Combat. Is it like that? It definitely 1481 01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:21.399 looks a lot like Overwatch or I guess Valorant. I'm just surprised there's not 1482 01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:27.079 a game called Deadlocke already. Yeah, Ratchet and you think the podcast boys 1483 01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:30.760 are gonna suit? Yeah? Yeah, right now? Oh yeah tm tm 1484 01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:35.600 tmh yeah. I mean, hey, good good luck. It's Valve. 1485 01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:39.760 They can make good games, and if it's on Steam's front page, a 1486 01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:41.960 lot of people are going to see it. But that didn't help Artifact. 1487 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:46.159 So I'm sorry. What Yeah, Artifact video game that once existed. Okay, 1488 01:36:46.199 --> 01:36:50.399 I could make up games. Yeah, well we'll see. I don't 1489 01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:53.840 know this, but think I was telling Tam when we were talking about this, 1490 01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:57.079 there's nothing about this is moving me. Nothing about this is getting like, 1491 01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.000 Yeah, it's not moving me. That's what I would say about that. 1492 01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:04.680 Yes, uh, okay, up next, Xbox will apparently make changes 1493 01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:10.000 to the game pass model when it adds Call of Duty. It's claimed Xbox 1494 01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:14.039 is reportedly planning to make changes to its game Pass subscription model when the next 1495 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:16.119 Call of Duty game is released. The inclusion of Call of Duty and game 1496 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:20.159 Pass is expected to bring more subscribers to the service, and Xbox may use 1497 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:26.520 this opportunity to refresh the structure of game Pass. Insider Shunobi six zero two 1498 01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:30.119 confirm that there will be changes to game Pass, but did not specify what 1499 01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:33.479 they will be. What do you guys think they could change to get more 1500 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:38.920 out of game Pass? I suppose the obvious thing is upprice increase, right, 1501 01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:43.239 just don't do the confusing tiered sony thing. Sony thing is still a 1502 01:37:43.319 --> 01:37:46.079 nice it still sucks, Like, just don't do that like that that was 1503 01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:49.479 That was part of what made game Pass so enticing. Is like, here's 1504 01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:51.680 the thing, you subscribe to it. I know they split it with PC 1505 01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:54.960 and console and stuff like that, but it's one price you get all this 1506 01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.800 shit. And the sony thing has been a mess since you know, PS 1507 01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:00.119 plus expanded, So I just don't want more of that at I think that's 1508 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:04.479 exactly where they're headed. That's like what else I mean again, let's try 1509 01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:10.239 and I want to get too creative here at least name it better then yeah, 1510 01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:14.800 or make it more Yeah, certainly, tiers is an option they haven't 1511 01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:17.439 done. They leveled the playing field a while back. So yeah, they 1512 01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:21.800 have game passing, game Pass Ultimate, and Ultimate comes with the online multiplayer 1513 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:27.840 and stuff and PC. And it sounds like most people subscribe to that tier 1514 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.520 because most people want to be able to play games online, so that gets 1515 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.640 the Xbox Live. So they just do that. So they're probably looking at 1516 01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:38.880 that bottom tier and like, what can we do to sort of either force 1517 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:42.279 even more people to step up to Ultimate or to make this one make more 1518 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:46.800 sense. I think they would do like like X like game Pass, Activision 1519 01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:53.359 game Pass. Yeah, that one. That one feels rough because it's like, 1520 01:38:53.439 --> 01:38:56.920 I think the whole appeal of a subscription service is you get the subscription 1521 01:38:57.039 --> 01:39:00.880 service and you see, look at all these brands under these all. Yeah, 1522 01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:02.479 they're all right here. I feel like so much more. I'm paying 1523 01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.439 once and I'm getting all these things. Yeah, I don't I don't know, 1524 01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.239 I don't know. I think the most extreme thing they could do is 1525 01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:12.560 take day one games out of game Pass and put them only an Ultimate, 1526 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:15.199 So that means if you want to get Call of Duty you got to pay 1527 01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:18.960 up to seventeen dollars per month to just gate the timed right, So there's 1528 01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:24.319 a there's you know, there's a vault of games on the bas tier and 1529 01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:28.399 then day one goes up to the next tier. I think the other most 1530 01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:31.520 extreme thing, like the secondary most extreme, would be a new cheaper tier 1531 01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:39.000 five dollars per month that is supported by ads where you watch like a commercial 1532 01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:42.680 before you get the drop. They're they're going to do the prime thing or 1533 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.560 no, it's peacock when you pause your game, uh and AD pops up. 1534 01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:50.600 That's there's worse, and there's worse like and yeah, but Dan, 1535 01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:58.359 you're you're making room for that. You'realizing it will get worse. I mean 1536 01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:03.600 a manufacturing consent ADS while I'm paused is less intrusive than other options. You 1537 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:09.000 know, I'm not screen Yeah, yeah, you know it's a pixel savers. 1538 01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:12.960 What that is? I couldn't unpause until three minutes of ads played? 1539 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:16.439 Wait? What what if you couldn't unpause your game until three minutes of AD 1540 01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:21.880 That sucks. I'm just like, I don't think there's no way. I 1541 01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:27.920 think that there's a slippery yell. McDonald's so fucking loud. Okay, yeah, 1542 01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.159 I will bellow McDonald's until the console fears. I will door dash McDonald's 1543 01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:34.960 even if I'm not hungry. Well, now that you've put it like that, 1544 01:40:35.119 --> 01:40:38.560 Grub, I could see a future where it's like, hey, you 1545 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:42.479 gotta you gotta sit through a minute of ads before you boot up this game 1546 01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:48.520 that don't don't just yeah, it will start. What's what's happening with the 1547 01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:51.319 Prime Video right now? Oh, it's one little ad for something that's already 1548 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:54.800 on Amazon Video. And then it's like, well, here's an ad for 1549 01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:58.560 something that's on Amazon and now here's two minutes of ads, and they're promising 1550 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:00.560 it's gonna it's gonna ramp up and get even more intrusive. I mean this 1551 01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:04.119 is like kind of across entertainment right now, right all the streaming stuff is 1552 01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:08.439 getting way more like so many more tears, so many more just like okay, 1553 01:41:08.479 --> 01:41:11.279 get this bundle, you know, the whole gaming cable again type thing. 1554 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:14.359 It's like we really did have a heyday where it's like we had Netflix 1555 01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:16.640 and Hulu for a while on the entertainment streaming stuff, and then like Game 1556 01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:19.880 Pass and PS plus for a little bit and then everything just gets so much 1557 01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:24.479 more confusing and expensive. Yep. Yeah, and it's it's just gonna sort 1558 01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:28.600 of like go back to this default state of what We're not going to say 1559 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:30.600 no to the advertising revenue, so we're gonna jam it in here anywhere we 1560 01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.199 can. And uh yeah, and I think games seem like they're doing for 1561 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:39.039 something similar, although you know, the good news is gamers don't take the 1562 01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:41.960 stuff well, so there would be a massive backlash, and these companies are 1563 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.039 actually afraid of that. So maybe Dan's the only one welcoming this. Yell 1564 01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:53.159 McDonald's man, so I'm stopping you from yelling MCDI. Yeah, I would, 1565 01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:56.399 honestly, I think I would rather have a product placement. I'd rather 1566 01:41:56.479 --> 01:42:02.319 have like without it. Yeah, more Obama billboards and you know, like 1567 01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:06.680 give me like call of duties, like you know, give me targets presents, 1568 01:42:08.359 --> 01:42:11.600 call of duty like fine, like do that, give like sell the 1569 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:14.479 naming rights. I don't get skins in all video games. I'd wear that 1570 01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:19.600 crazy. Yeah, no, there'd be so many people buying targets skins. 1571 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:24.680 And yes, of course it's like a red shirt with a like oh my 1572 01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:28.279 god, I to Jake from State Form Yeah, look at me. I'm 1573 01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:31.479 a punkin spice latte from Starbucks. I would buy that. Yeah, did 1574 01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:36.479 want Karate Sheep in Fortnite? If anyone's listening, he took over He took 1575 01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:41.359 over your your Twitter account to say that karate. You know, we have 1576 01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:44.920 a friend who works for Epic and he thinks that like he like owns Epic. 1577 01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:46.800 He thinks he like makes Fortnite and he just sits at like a Matrix 1578 01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:51.159 computer command center and he's just like, I will now put you know, 1579 01:42:51.399 --> 01:42:56.239 Garfield in Fortnite with a push of a button. So he's like, hey, 1580 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:59.399 can you tell him to put Karate Sheep in Fortnite? How do I 1581 01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:05.319 is that like karate sheet? So great question. Karate Sheep. As far 1582 01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:14.760 as I understand, it is a French animated cartoon on Netflix that is just 1583 01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:19.560 like sort of run a Roadrunner, Coyote Shenaniganska. It's just it's it's mostly 1584 01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:24.079 harmless. It's it's kind of like Grizzly, you know, Grizzy and the 1585 01:43:24.239 --> 01:43:29.479 and the the the Lemmings, you know that show on Netflix as well. 1586 01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:33.039 Sure, it's more just like you know, Coyote versus Roadrunner ship. He 1587 01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:40.720 still has the same jaws, No Dan and yeah, it's very Ohio Christian. 1588 01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:45.960 Ohio comes out of this kid's mouth more than any other word aside from 1589 01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:49.960 Ohio. No. He's just like he's like, oh he's a going to 1590 01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:57.800 Ohio. Bet Im just like like like that's like it's like whatever, man, 1591 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.640 you just sound dumb, you know, like I don't care. I 1592 01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:02.039 get it. I know I sounded dumb when I was nine, but like 1593 01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:05.600 you sound dumb. Yeah, anyway, I can't remember. Did Dave get 1594 01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:09.880 onto a sketch with a what's up? Brothers? Yeah? He's like, 1595 01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:15.720 it's it's Tuesday, brother brother Hell yeah. Anyway, karate Sheep, I 1596 01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:18.399 said to him, I said, I said, I said, did like 1597 01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:21.840 Karate Sheep? That branch is not big enough to find it went to Fortnite 1598 01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.600 Like you think it could stand next to Lady Gaga. I think it's stand 1599 01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:30.319 next to these kind of like monoliths of pop culture. Anyway, he wanted 1600 01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:33.039 to put out the messages, said here, type what you want and I'll 1601 01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:35.439 just hit send. There you go. All right, Well, good luck 1602 01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:40.359 with that. Did I'm gonna I'm gonna sue Karate Sheep gimmick infringement with a 1603 01:44:40.399 --> 01:44:43.399 red beanie. I don't like this. Oh there's Oh that's right, Jan. 1604 01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:46.600 You might have a case on your hands, but I look like I'm 1605 01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:53.079 cosplaying as karate sheep right now. It's it's pretty funny, Like it's pretty 1606 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:56.840 good. He's got like a decent taste. There's a higher likelihood that I 1607 01:44:56.960 --> 01:45:00.680 think Blue would get at it to Fortnite. Oh for sure he belongs and 1608 01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:05.520 for now should be holding out a sniper but banded behind that thing. No, 1609 01:45:06.079 --> 01:45:11.000 Jen, you and I both know what franchise is well overdue to be 1610 01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:17.600 inserted into Fortnite. Come on, No, Hocky In the venn diagram of 1611 01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:20.680 things that you and I overlap in is hockey in the middle? Coffee? 1612 01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:28.319 No? How can coffee be has new hats? You know? May bald? 1613 01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:35.439 Jen? What franchise? What cartoon network? Franchise? Regular Show? 1614 01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:43.279 Where? Why can I not go around as Pops Victor? Come on? 1615 01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:45.119 Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Put it in 1616 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:51.359 there? Man? Do kids care about rent and Simpy? No? Regular 1617 01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:56.560 Show is is like born from it. I can't get a lot like it's 1618 01:45:57.199 --> 01:46:00.840 it is. It's just another evolution of it that I would buy the crap 1619 01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:08.760 out of a Hannah Barbara pack. Yeah, I mean like and also like 1620 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:12.680 I don't know, Aquatine should be in Fortnite too, Like where we put 1621 01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:17.399 that fucked up buggy that talks. Yeah? Yeah, oh god, the 1622 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:21.079 shark thing. Oh my god. Yeah, they got that racing game in 1623 01:46:21.119 --> 01:46:25.520 there. Yeah. Let me be scrappy do and I could be like odd 1624 01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:30.760 drop in Golden Eye. I would buy I would buy a Harvey Birdman skin 1625 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:35.159 in Fortnite instantaneously. Yeah. They can get Colbert do the voice again, 1626 01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:43.359 that'd be great. Uh Gary Cole is uh is Harvey Boss? Was the 1627 01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:47.119 Boss? Right? Seven? Okay, let's see here where did I leave 1628 01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:53.279 off Xbox from? Yes? Okay. Xbox has reportedly green lighted Ninja Theory's 1629 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:57.840 next game. Xbox has reportedly approved the next game from helbla developer Ninja Theory. 1630 01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:01.199 There are no plans to close Cambridge UK, the Cambridge, UK based 1631 01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:05.880 studio which Microsoft acquired in twenty eighteen. Now I'll say, like, that 1632 01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:11.119 doesn't mean anything. No, that doesn't mean anything. They could decide they 1633 01:47:11.119 --> 01:47:15.520 could change their mind at any moment, and I don't know if there's I 1634 01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:17.520 mean, there's no guarantee. I feel like Microsoft could give a studio right 1635 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:21.800 now that make them feel one hundred percent secure. So this like them even 1636 01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:26.960 having a green lighted project going forward doesn't really change the fact that it seems 1637 01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:30.279 like any studio could be on the chopping block going forward. But it's better 1638 01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:32.840 than not having a game green lighted, I would say, So there's some 1639 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:38.760 good news there. What do you guys want from this studio? Next man, 1640 01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:41.319 there was just a something about then we just do that that I've maybe 1641 01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:45.079 I've read ahead in the news story. So we were just like we're saying, 1642 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:46.159 like what they've done in the past that we like, But I mean, 1643 01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:48.479 now there's an opportunity to be like, okay, we're past tell Blade 1644 01:47:48.479 --> 01:47:51.600 two. Do you want them to go back to something familiar? I mean, 1645 01:47:51.680 --> 01:47:54.960 I don't know if I wanted them to go back to something familiar, 1646 01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:59.039 but certainly I think Dan would agree. It sounds like we look at their 1647 01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:04.000 you know, pedigree with a fonder sort of memory, right, So I 1648 01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:10.239 think a more action forward thing would be would be pretty sick, you know. 1649 01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:14.319 And I think they have amazing artists there and let's just let's just get 1650 01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:16.960 let's let's get crazy, you know. Ask Andy sarkis to do some fucking 1651 01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:20.960 ship. I don't know. Have my sword Sony owned it all? Or 1652 01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:25.600 is that just exclusive? I don't think it was. I think it was 1653 01:48:25.640 --> 01:48:27.720 a it was a p S three, it was an exclusive, But I 1654 01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:30.520 don't know if Sony owned the I P or if it was just I don't 1655 01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:32.680 know, and I don't I don't know if are you getting out like a 1656 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:34.880 heavenly Sword two? Is that what you're saying? No? No, I'm 1657 01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:39.800 just trying to think other stuff they've done. I didn't super love that enslaved 1658 01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:44.600 the game rules. Why don't we have a planet? A good planet of 1659 01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:48.640 the Apes? Game? Easy? Easy? Jen? I watched the third 1660 01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:54.960 one in the New trilogy or yes, yes, yeah yeah man, that 1661 01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:57.680 movie had me just like doing like this to the Apes. I'm like, 1662 01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:02.359 yeah, y'all should win Apes together? Wrong? Yeah, I like that 1663 01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:08.359 one especially all right. More Xbox games reportedly could come to PS five as 1664 01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:12.760 part of Microsoft's Latitude project. Basically, this is an initiative to look at 1665 01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:16.239 every single game to potentially bring to PS five. There is a like sort 1666 01:49:16.279 --> 01:49:23.680 of fuzzy red line around some stuff like Halo, but even those those games 1667 01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:26.239 like Sati Nadella is like, no, we don't want any red line. 1668 01:49:26.279 --> 01:49:29.800 Everything should be up for grabs to go to to PlayStation. So that conversation 1669 01:49:29.960 --> 01:49:32.159 is ongoing. But the very least they have this project that is, hey, 1670 01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:35.720 everything is now, maybe going over to PS five. God playing Halo 1671 01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:41.960 with a PlayStation controller would feel weird. As I was playing on Xbox Elite 1672 01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:45.239 and I was like, this feels fucked up. Imagine the weirdest one. 1673 01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:48.359 Although I guess you could play Halo on PC, so you could plug in 1674 01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:53.279 a PlayStation controller now, but sure was crazy. Yes, yeah, mouse 1675 01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:59.039 and keyboard right there. Redfall will receive its offline up update. Arcane Austin's 1676 01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:02.680 final update for the for Red Fall will introduce offline play, revamped neighborhood in 1677 01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:06.880 nests systems, and single player pausing, an incredible feature. The decision to 1678 01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:12.520 release the update comes despite Microsoft's recent announcement of the studio's closure, So it 1679 01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:15.640 sounds like what happened here is there was enough of a backlash. They're like, 1680 01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:17.520 I guess we should finish this so the game can be playable offline, 1681 01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:21.920 because previously you're gonna need a connection to a server and there's just no way 1682 01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:26.399 that was going to last for very long after this, I mean probably years, 1683 01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:29.319 but in the grand scheme of things, that's not too long. So 1684 01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:32.399 this update will now make the game playable completely offline. And it's nice that 1685 01:50:32.399 --> 01:50:34.560 they're getting out there, but it just reminds me of, Hey, they're 1686 01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:40.479 closing down Arcane Austin, and that sucks. Yeah, oh god, for 1687 01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:44.479 this to be the last thing you work on, yep. Yeah, and 1688 01:50:44.600 --> 01:50:46.960 then then you just got to walk out the door and the studio's done. 1689 01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:51.159 So yeah, that stinks that that's how it's going down. Total Wars Star 1690 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:56.520 Wars is reportedly in development at Creative Assembly. Creative Assembly is reportedly developing a 1691 01:50:56.600 --> 01:50:59.640 Star Wars game, which is one of three Total War games that are in 1692 01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:03.239 develop element as of October twenty twenty three. SEGA normally releases a new Total 1693 01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:08.600 War game annually, with the last exceptions being twenty twenty one and twenty fourteen. 1694 01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:13.800 Creative Assembly has done a lot of these Total war games. They were 1695 01:51:13.920 --> 01:51:18.000 also making that Hyenas Shooter and that got shut down. They're no longer working 1696 01:51:18.039 --> 01:51:20.880 on that, but from what I've heard, they've been working on this Total 1697 01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:24.600 War Star Wars game for at least like the last year or so, so 1698 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:27.600 that would mean it's still pretty early in development. But I think this is 1699 01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:30.279 a good fit. Oh my god, a Star Wars RTS. That sounds 1700 01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:32.680 really cool. Yeah. Has that happened at something? It's happened a couple 1701 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:38.880 of times. There's Star Wars Empire at War and they're Star Wars Rebellion or 1702 01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:42.520 something like that. I think they're both real time strategy and not turn based. 1703 01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.279 But yeah, they were like in the heyday of those games. Careers 1704 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.840 got quite a bit of fondness for those games, especially Empire at War, 1705 01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:53.199 and I think with this one they're like, we'll try to capture some of 1706 01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:55.199 that, but it's going to be a total war game. But Total War 1707 01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:58.359 is a great fit for that because if you just have like squadrons of stormtroopers 1708 01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:00.520 and so that sounds it couldome Yeah, it sounds really good, So I'm 1709 01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:05.319 hopeful. Yeah, this sounds really cool. Yeah, well, we'll see, 1710 01:52:05.439 --> 01:52:09.039 like if they get around to announce it anytime soon. Again, it 1711 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.920 sounds like it's very early, but uh, I don't know anyone that really 1712 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:14.600 plays Total War. Are those supposed to be pretty good right now? Yes, 1713 01:52:14.720 --> 01:52:16.880 they've been good for twenty years ish and they're they're still very good. 1714 01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:23.159 People really like them. It's like, uh, you're not commanding whole armies. 1715 01:52:23.479 --> 01:52:27.439 You're not and you're not commanding like just a little platoon like in Company 1716 01:52:27.479 --> 01:52:30.960 of Heroes. It's like a large squadron or something like that where you're gonna 1717 01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:34.319 have a couple of hundred units and then you're gonna go into a battle with 1718 01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:38.279 them, and it's, uh, it's pretty cool. Just it's like slow 1719 01:52:38.399 --> 01:52:42.119 moving so you can like adjust your strategies on the fly and then it all 1720 01:52:42.159 --> 01:52:44.439 happens on screen in front of you. It's it's a really cool series. 1721 01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:45.159 There's a reason there's been so many of them. Like, I'll have to 1722 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:49.880 check it out. That sounds really cool. Yoko Taro's new game might be 1723 01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:55.239 near, and it might not be Near. Scoring executive shut Up Joyce case 1724 01:52:55.359 --> 01:53:00.000 side Tooe and Near series director Yoko Taro are collaborating on a new product. 1725 01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:06.279 Composer kg okabeuh Psyto mentioned the project during the discussion with former Capcom producers. 1726 01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:12.159 Details are scamped, but Cyto hinted that it may or may not be related 1727 01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:15.800 to the Near series. That means it's near, right, why would you 1728 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:19.439 say this, if it's not near, Yeah, I think it's not near. 1729 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:25.840 You say it's not near r exactly, And listen, I think there's 1730 01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:30.079 a possibility that it's like near related and maybe they go back to Dragon Guard 1731 01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:32.640 or they do some new spin off. But I think it's related to Near 1732 01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:34.920 in some way. That's what the say. I need to know if there 1733 01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:40.640 was did was Yokotaro? Did he have a little smile on his face after 1734 01:53:40.760 --> 01:53:45.039 he said this? Well, Yokataro was as always wearing his giant like moon 1735 01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:48.119 man helmet, whatever the hell that thing is. What did the vibe feel 1736 01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:51.319 like? Then under the smile, the smile on the face of what you 1737 01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:56.000 were suggesting, that was the vibe. Okay, so we'll say near, 1738 01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:01.159 Yeah, probably gonna probably gonna be near. We'll see. Uh, this 1739 01:54:01.279 --> 01:54:05.640 is this is a fun one. Masa hero. Soakarai refused to add Dolby 1740 01:54:05.720 --> 01:54:10.439 Surround to a Kirby game because players had to sit through the logo Oh yes, 1741 01:54:10.880 --> 01:54:14.600 yes, what a hero. Sakurai, the creator of Kirby and the 1742 01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:17.159 director of the Smash Brothers series, once removed to Dolby Surround from a game 1743 01:54:17.239 --> 01:54:20.960 because the logo would have added extra waiting time for the player. During a 1744 01:54:21.039 --> 01:54:27.079 live stream celebrating the tenth anniversary of the Arcade Archive series, Sakarai emphasized the 1745 01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:30.880 importance of reducing loading times, arguing that players should be able to jump from 1746 01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:33.399 one game to another quickly. To illustrate his point, he revealed that Kirby 1747 01:54:33.479 --> 01:54:38.239 Air Ride was originally supposed to have Dolby Surround audio, but he decided to 1748 01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:41.359 remove it because it would have required showing the Dolby logo at the start of 1749 01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:47.159 the day. Sky look as YouTube videos. He's got like his setup with 1750 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:51.039 all his consoles. You could tell this is someone making games who plays a 1751 01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:54.359 lot of video games, and he's like, I hate that, let me 1752 01:54:54.479 --> 01:54:57.039 just play my game. So he just took it out of his game. 1753 01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:00.760 That rules. Amazing. What a baller, Yeah, what a hero. 1754 01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:04.680 And then finally the Assassin's Creed Shadows got announced. It's coming out November fifteenth. 1755 01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:13.079 It'll be everywhere. It's got the dual protagonists, the Yoske who is 1756 01:55:13.159 --> 01:55:16.159 a samurai, and then there is a now now A I believe, and 1757 01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:20.079 she is going to be more of the stealth assassin ninja style, and they're 1758 01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:24.760 promising to support both to the point where the stealth action will have a light 1759 01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:28.199 meter and you'll be able to take out lights to create more darkness and say, 1760 01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:30.319 all right, that stuff sounds cool to me. I just hear so 1761 01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:32.640 when I hear that, yeah, but I love that shit, that's for 1762 01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:35.720 me. Yes, yep, give me that. I'm very excited for Assassin's 1763 01:55:35.720 --> 01:55:39.359 Creed, and I did think i'd say that sentence in twenty twenty four. 1764 01:55:39.720 --> 01:55:42.119 Me neither. I'm getting pretty excited about this one the more I see it. 1765 01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:44.920 I'm not going to be ever be a person who's going to play every 1766 01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:47.039 Assassin's Creed or even most of them, but checking in every four to five 1767 01:55:47.159 --> 01:55:49.960 years I usually end up having an okay time, and if I bounce off, 1768 01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:51.479 it's like, well, I know there's gonna be another one, so 1769 01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:58.039 that's fine. My favorite thing in seeing the parts of the internet freak out 1770 01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:02.039 about Assassin's Creed Shadows and being upset about it and you know, putting their 1771 01:56:02.079 --> 01:56:08.199 whole asshole out there on the internet. You're seeing the counterpoints and seeing stuff 1772 01:56:08.279 --> 01:56:12.159 in Valhalla that had no idea was there of Like, oh, I guess 1773 01:56:12.199 --> 01:56:16.680 you just fight a giant Egyptian crocodile god. Yep, at some point that's 1774 01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:24.479 pretty cools historically accurate. We're upset about this franchise not being historically accurate about 1775 01:56:24.520 --> 01:56:27.680 me after I fight this giant crocodile. God. Okay, cool. And 1776 01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:30.479 of course, of course they're not actually upset about any of that. It's 1777 01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:33.000 all just a work so they can get mad about the thing they're actually mad 1778 01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:39.199 about. Last story here, real quick. London Studio has officially been closed. 1779 01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:44.960 Sony Interactive Entertainment's PlayStation London Studio has officially closed its doors. Found it 1780 01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:47.520 in two thousand and two and based in Soho, London. The first party 1781 01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:51.760 studio worked out on the Getaway series and was responsible for the sing Star franchise. 1782 01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:57.560 And now they've officially been shut down. Yep, that's the end of 1783 01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:00.760 that studio. It's a bummer. London Studios's had like the interesting VR games 1784 01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:03.760 and things like that, and to me, this is like part of a 1785 01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.680 series of shut of closures at PlayStation that's like, man, these are the 1786 01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:12.600 studios that were making interesting stuff at the very least. Obviously they weren't like 1787 01:57:12.680 --> 01:57:15.600 the world class like number one sellers or anything like that. But after closing 1788 01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:18.479 down Japan studios in now London studios. It's like, man, you're kind 1789 01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:21.399 of left with the teams that people think of when they think of Sony, 1790 01:57:21.640 --> 01:57:25.479 but they aren't putting out games very frequently. Like, honestly, we can 1791 01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:29.359 get through this generation without Naughty Dog putting out like a game that's a new 1792 01:57:29.439 --> 01:57:32.079 game that would be insane, but it feels like it could happen. Yeah, 1793 01:57:33.960 --> 01:57:41.359 God, there's is PSVR two dead in the water now, wouldn't sure? 1794 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:43.520 I would say yes. They have not brought it up in any real 1795 01:57:43.560 --> 01:57:47.640 way, So okay, yep, all right, that does it for the 1796 01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:51.520 news. Jan I'm handing this show back over to you. I'm rocking this 1797 01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:55.840 show back and forth, and I think it needs a little bricky break. 1798 01:57:56.079 --> 01:58:00.720 Use the party, and then we'll be back with some emails right after this. 1799 01:58:00.479 --> 01:58:13.520 Do it emails. Pomcast giant bomb dot com is the email address to 1800 01:58:13.560 --> 01:58:17.159 send your fine emails. To send any and everything you want to send, 1801 01:58:17.279 --> 01:58:23.640 whether it is a game related questions, discussion topics, trying to avoid awkward 1802 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:29.119 social situations, or hey, what you're doing that day? I will I 1803 01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:32.560 welcome any in every email. Special shout outs to the giant Bomb community. 1804 01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:39.039 Last last week. I wanted to solicit workout and lifting advice from from y'all, 1805 01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:45.159 and y'all came out. It droves different. Part of the answer is 1806 01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:49.279 creatine. And let me tell you right now, your boys thighs hurt. 1807 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:54.760 Turns out, turns out I was doing squad's completely wrong with this whole time. 1808 01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:59.560 Oh really, Yeah, I've learned now what a lat pulled down is 1809 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:03.479 and all this other stuff. It's great. I feel great. Can't wait 1810 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:08.159 for a Game of the year to pop off late in the year. I'm 1811 01:59:08.159 --> 01:59:11.560 just gonna rip my shirt off for no reason. They they did. They 1812 01:59:11.640 --> 01:59:14.079 did say that getting a bow flex was a good idea and I should do 1813 01:59:14.159 --> 01:59:16.680 that, right I did. No one said that bow flex is around anymore. 1814 01:59:17.239 --> 01:59:19.479 I was gonna get a used one cub, get into running with me, 1815 01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:23.199 run a marathon with me. Monotony. Yeah, but I need to 1816 01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:26.760 do lat. I gotta do the lat stuff. That's my weakest muscle in 1817 01:59:26.800 --> 01:59:29.840 my body. I want to focus on that. I think bow flex is 1818 01:59:29.880 --> 01:59:31.439 the answer. Still, I don't care do the bow flex. Let's run 1819 01:59:31.479 --> 01:59:36.399 a marathon. What do you so? How are you building up your your 1820 01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:42.199 running agility? There? Danny boy hal Higden he's like a hundred year old 1821 01:59:42.199 --> 01:59:45.199 fucking dude that's been running marathon since the fucking thirties or something. I read 1822 01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:47.800 his book and I'm following his program. I guess that's like the standard of 1823 01:59:47.920 --> 01:59:50.279 just like here is how you do this. You have like a long run 1824 01:59:50.399 --> 01:59:53.680 every weekend, and it goes up like so right now, it's like, 1825 01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:55.840 you know, Saturday, I'll do a seven mile. Next Saturday, I'll 1826 01:59:55.840 --> 01:59:57.920 do an eight mile. Next one I'll do a ten. So that's working 1827 01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:00.000 up for the half mile, and then like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 1828 02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:01.680 I'm running at least a five k every day, So like this morning I 1829 02:00:01.720 --> 02:00:03.680 did a five k. Tomorrow I'm doing four miles in the morning. The 1830 02:00:03.680 --> 02:00:06.279 next day I'm doing five k. And then you have cross training days, 1831 02:00:06.479 --> 02:00:09.760 which are basically just like okay, this is to work like you know, 1832 02:00:09.960 --> 02:00:13.560 like you're doing leg strengthening stuff or like rowing in core things like that. 1833 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:16.199 So it's just it's very structured day to day. And I haven't missed the 1834 02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:18.640 single one of them for like two months. And yeah, I ran. 1835 02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:23.760 I did an actual race this weekend at ten k, and I've done those 1836 02:00:23.840 --> 02:00:26.439 before, but I'm usually like really slow and just dying by the end. 1837 02:00:26.760 --> 02:00:29.680 And this one it's like I had a pace I was going for and I 1838 02:00:29.840 --> 02:00:31.479 beat my time by like five minutes I was shooting for and you beat it 1839 02:00:31.560 --> 02:00:33.720 by five minutes. Yeah, but I mean it's like, you know, 1840 02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:36.359 it's like, screw it. An hour ten or whatever. It was my 1841 02:00:36.560 --> 02:00:40.399 very it's a very reasonable goal. But like I finished in like an hour 1842 02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:44.119 four or something like that. But yeah, this is like the first time 1843 02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:45.439 I've actually been doing this, right, Like I did a half marathon ten 1844 02:00:45.560 --> 02:00:48.439 years ago, but that was just me going out in San Francisco and like, 1845 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:50.359 let's just see how far I can run. Then I'll try to go 1846 02:00:50.399 --> 02:00:55.159 farther the next time. And this time it's like regimented, planned out, 1847 02:00:55.479 --> 02:00:59.159 like yeah, so I'm actually following it, and I'm finding it way easier 1848 02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:01.319 and way more on that I've ever found running. Helly, Wow, it 1849 02:01:01.359 --> 02:01:05.319 feels finally great. So running down love it. Yeah. I want to 1850 02:01:05.359 --> 02:01:09.600 get to the point where, uh, we're we're going to be in a 1851 02:01:09.720 --> 02:01:12.760 situation where someone needs something carried and then I just do it with one arm 1852 02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:16.800 dominant dominant arm, non dominant arm, or I just want to be like 1853 02:01:16.880 --> 02:01:19.680 hanging from a Cliff and then someone has to save me and I'm like, 1854 02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:24.039 no, dog, I got this. Oh so like the beginning of Base 1855 02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:27.439 Ventura two, like you're the raccoon, but he doesn't need like that. 1856 02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:30.000 Okay, I see, I see. This is all just building to my 1857 02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:31.359 tribal chief arc. That's all. That's all. I'm trying to get the 1858 02:01:31.359 --> 02:01:35.039 tattoo. Get the tattoo, real talk. I thought about getting a chest 1859 02:01:35.159 --> 02:01:40.760 chest tattoo or the chest. Yeah, a little little chesty double double pits 1860 02:01:40.800 --> 02:01:44.479 the chesty. Oh wow, that's that says something. I'm gonna be honest, 1861 02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:45.640 I'm not listening. I just watched The Shadow of the ar Tree trailer 1862 02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:54.319 instead this whole time. That was why what's your what's your favorite I want 1863 02:01:54.319 --> 02:01:58.840 to hear from it. What's your favorite part about running going forward? Just 1864 02:01:59.159 --> 02:02:01.600 just how's the running around the structure is the important thing? Like I think 1865 02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:05.039 it's like I finally am like finding like a workout structure that really works for 1866 02:02:05.119 --> 02:02:09.000 me. You've like you've liked it is the discipline and the structure because like 1867 02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:11.199 I remember when I lived in New York, like I was focusing on like 1868 02:02:11.279 --> 02:02:14.119 I was like kind of getting into like lifting stuff and I was. I 1869 02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:15.880 was lifting way more than I used to. You know, I was doing 1870 02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:17.199 benches with like the forty fives and stuff which I was never able to do 1871 02:02:17.279 --> 02:02:19.800 before. And then I kept getting hurt and I remember I went to a 1872 02:02:19.880 --> 02:02:24.039 doctor at one point and he's like, look, you're not You're you're lifting 1873 02:02:24.279 --> 02:02:27.119 like the way a bodybuilder would want to lift, but you're not a bodybuilder. 1874 02:02:27.159 --> 02:02:29.119 Don't do and like I don't want to be a bodybuilder. So like 1875 02:02:29.439 --> 02:02:32.119 that didn't really work with me. And now the running, like I remember 1876 02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:34.079 like teachers pulling me aside in like eighth grade and me like, hey, 1877 02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:35.680 you should be on the cross country team. I You've got the build of 1878 02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:40.119 a runner, and so like I think maybe I'm actually kind of like built 1879 02:02:40.199 --> 02:02:43.520 to run more and bike I'm going on you know, thirty mile bike rides 1880 02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:45.720 and stuff on the weekend. So it's like I think I'm finding my stuff 1881 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:48.359 for sure here and I'm born to run. Yes, yeah, maybe, 1882 02:02:48.439 --> 02:02:51.279 but it's great like making like making a playlist and like knowing how long it's 1883 02:02:51.279 --> 02:02:54.439 going to take to run this ten k and like knowing like sure, okay, 1884 02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:56.199 in the middle it is going to be this type of feeling the music 1885 02:02:56.239 --> 02:02:57.800 at the end is going to be able. We'll bring in the rocky shit 1886 02:02:57.840 --> 02:03:00.279 and everything like it, just the actual act. I don't get bored by 1887 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:03.479 it, you know, it's it's very fun, Yeah Dan. Two more 1888 02:03:03.520 --> 02:03:08.199 follow ups, Yes, oh Dan, I would recommend you don't have to 1889 02:03:08.239 --> 02:03:13.119 watch the movie, but run to the Challenger's soundtrack. I saw you tweet 1890 02:03:13.199 --> 02:03:15.479 that, and I considered looking that up because like, now that I'm running 1891 02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:16.840 so much, I am looking I don't want to listen to the same playlist 1892 02:03:16.920 --> 02:03:19.239 over and over again. So yes, I can do that next time. 1893 02:03:19.239 --> 02:03:23.960 I'll do it tomorrow morning. Oh my god, I actually shoot felt like 1894 02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:29.800 I could get into a fight with God. All right, WHOA My first 1895 02:03:29.880 --> 02:03:34.239 question, what are your preferred running shoes? Ah? I uh so I 1896 02:03:34.319 --> 02:03:42.439 got Are you like a hawk? Yes? So I I have like weird 1897 02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:45.479 feet and they're like wide and stuff. So it's like hard for me to 1898 02:03:45.520 --> 02:03:46.880 find I plan it for shitest issues. So it's been always been hard for 1899 02:03:46.960 --> 02:03:50.680 me to find shoes, we know. Yeah, yeah, sol gear. 1900 02:03:50.960 --> 02:03:54.439 So I used to use like, you know, Brooks Adrenaline and stuff like 1901 02:03:54.520 --> 02:03:56.960 that. Like Brooks has some good like you know, arch support shoes and 1902 02:03:57.000 --> 02:03:59.279 stuff like that, but they were kind of tight for me a lot of 1903 02:03:59.319 --> 02:04:02.079 times. And it was when we were having breakfast with the bone Yellows, 1904 02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:06.760 Jan and April was telling me about the Hokahs or the Hawkas or whatever, 1905 02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:10.800 and man, I went into a running store and they say, oh, 1906 02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:13.399 have them actually get on a treadmill. They'll look at your gate, they'll 1907 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:15.600 look at your feet and they'll do all this stuff and like they recommend to 1908 02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:16.239 them. I was like, okay, I've heard these are great, and 1909 02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:20.079 I've gotten a couple of pairs since then. They are the most comfortable shoes, 1910 02:04:20.239 --> 02:04:25.079 So those are absolutely working for me. Cool. I don't wear a 1911 02:04:25.119 --> 02:04:28.239 lot of sneakers, but I love the pair of Hokies that I got because 1912 02:04:28.279 --> 02:04:30.800 of the Bone Yellows. Oh they're great. Yeah. Yeah. And then 1913 02:04:30.840 --> 02:04:33.399 before you said you really like to run like five miles or seven k's, 1914 02:04:33.439 --> 02:04:38.680 so which is it metric or imperial? Well, okay, so race the 1915 02:04:38.800 --> 02:04:42.239 way it works is the way on the Hall Higden stuff is it's miles. 1916 02:04:42.439 --> 02:04:45.680 So it's like you know, right now, it's like you'll do Tuesday three, 1917 02:04:45.399 --> 02:04:49.039 Wednesday four, Thursday three. And when I say ten k, I 1918 02:04:49.119 --> 02:04:51.600 mean an actual race where it's like I signed up for a thing, you 1919 02:04:51.680 --> 02:04:54.840 show up at a place, you get a bib, you do the run. 1920 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:58.039 It's all like I'm only doing a couple of races. The half marathon 1921 02:04:58.119 --> 02:05:00.600 is an actual race. The ten k is an actual race. But when 1922 02:05:00.600 --> 02:05:02.399 I say I run a five k, you know, several times a week, 1923 02:05:02.720 --> 02:05:05.159 I mean that like I'm supposed to only do three miles, but it's 1924 02:05:05.199 --> 02:05:10.119 like three point one for a technical five k, so I will push to 1925 02:05:10.279 --> 02:05:13.159 the three point one just so. Like my app logs, it is a 1926 02:05:13.199 --> 02:05:15.600 five k, and I'm big on like tracking the stats and all that stuff, 1927 02:05:15.000 --> 02:05:18.479 like my fastest segment it's fucking speed running. But for real life, 1928 02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:24.039 how many literally yes, speed? Yeah, it's amazing. Yes. And 1929 02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:28.760 how many of those annoying magnets do you have now on the back of your 1930 02:05:28.840 --> 02:05:30.920 car? I own? No? None? No, okay, good to 1931 02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:35.640 know you're annoyed by that back car. People who have like twelve point five 1932 02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:39.680 what's annoying? It's like, okay, I just ignore it. I don't 1933 02:05:39.680 --> 02:05:44.800 know what's annoying not hurting yet I oh it is. That's where you're This 1934 02:05:44.960 --> 02:05:46.520 is where the comes out, Like, well, if someone's doing something I 1935 02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:50.680 don't like, so I must disapprove. That's the part you're I think it's 1936 02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:55.880 funny to be annoyed by things. Yeah, you're not wrong, Okay, 1937 02:05:56.039 --> 02:06:01.079 I think that is where we find joy. I'm envious because I would listen. 1938 02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:03.880 I would love to go run a marathon with you. But like what 1939 02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:08.239 you're describing is in no way could fit with the way I have my life 1940 02:06:08.319 --> 02:06:11.079 set up with the kids. Oh, I can't disappear and go ride a 1941 02:06:11.119 --> 02:06:14.119 bike for thirty miles. Well, that run away from them. That's the 1942 02:06:14.199 --> 02:06:15.560 point. The ride thing is a bonus. That's like, you know, 1943 02:06:15.600 --> 02:06:19.520 you have your like cross training. Yeah, but I like four days a 1944 02:06:19.560 --> 02:06:23.600 week they're both in school in the morning, and I do go for walks, 1945 02:06:23.680 --> 02:06:27.119 but in that that's in the morning. It's I try to do a 1946 02:06:27.239 --> 02:06:29.920 two mile walk, yes, but how long? How long are you out? 1947 02:06:29.920 --> 02:06:32.319 Oh, it's so I do that in like thirty minutes. I did 1948 02:06:32.399 --> 02:06:35.680 thirty this morning. Honestly, I do forty five minutes. It's probably I've 1949 02:06:35.680 --> 02:06:39.159 doing les closer to three miles. I'm doing, yeah, thirty minutes to 1950 02:06:39.239 --> 02:06:42.920 do three point one, right, So I could probably fit in there. 1951 02:06:43.039 --> 02:06:47.439 But it's like it can't get much longer than that because I have the show 1952 02:06:47.479 --> 02:06:49.960 in the morning and stuff like that. So it's I could maybe make it 1953 02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:53.399 happen, but I couldn't do anything on the weekend or anything like that. 1954 02:06:53.560 --> 02:06:55.800 Long ones you're just to be able to keep to. I would not be 1955 02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:58.680 able to keep to the regular schedule that you're describing, and that's what I 1956 02:06:58.680 --> 02:07:00.319 would want. Well, that's the crazy thing. I was, like, 1957 02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:02.000 I'm thinking about this summer, and like my race isn't until late July, 1958 02:07:02.319 --> 02:07:05.119 and so like my really long you know, eight nine, ten miles and 1959 02:07:05.119 --> 02:07:09.199 stuff. I'm going to be in Vegas, I'm going to be in Oklahoma. 1960 02:07:09.479 --> 02:07:11.600 I'm going to be and like I've got a lot of travel coming up. 1961 02:07:11.640 --> 02:07:13.239 So I got to figure out, like, do I wanted to run 1962 02:07:13.319 --> 02:07:16.439 in Vegas in July for ten miles or staying in the hotel and doing a 1963 02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:19.159 treadmill run for that way? Do treadmill? I I don't run in the 1964 02:07:19.239 --> 02:07:21.279 desert. What are you doing? Yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure 1965 02:07:21.319 --> 02:07:27.079 I'm ready for something. Yeah, dude, I can't wait. You're going 1966 02:07:27.159 --> 02:07:30.479 to be so slim. I can't wait to see you down below. Sixt 1967 02:07:30.760 --> 02:07:32.279 in the one sixties for the first time and like one for a decade. 1968 02:07:32.399 --> 02:07:35.920 Yeah gosh, darn yeah, good for you. But honestly it is sorry, 1969 02:07:35.960 --> 02:07:38.840 I'm excited. I don't talk about this that much. I'm excited talk 1970 02:07:38.840 --> 02:07:43.680 about it. It is very interesting to see like things that you might just 1971 02:07:43.720 --> 02:07:45.840 write off as aging as like I remember, like if you look back, 1972 02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:48.960 that the heaviest I've ever been was around the time of that like Belgium travelog 1973 02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:51.880 last year, so last July, and that's when I started kind of like 1974 02:07:51.880 --> 02:07:55.199 because I was like on the plane, I was feeling bad. I was 1975 02:07:55.239 --> 02:07:57.159 just like getting out of bed in the morning, it was just really like 1976 02:07:57.239 --> 02:07:59.199 oh my back, my legs, my feet, no, everything was just 1977 02:07:59.239 --> 02:08:01.399 kind of hurting. I was like, fuck, getting old sucks. I'm 1978 02:08:01.399 --> 02:08:03.520 like, yes, it does. But I made a real effort from that 1979 02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:07.119 point and I am amazed. Like when I pop out of bed in the 1980 02:08:07.159 --> 02:08:11.039 mornings now to do my run, I'm just like i feel like I'm keeping 1981 02:08:11.119 --> 02:08:13.680 up out of bed and like my knees are feeling good, my fet are 1982 02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:16.319 feeling good. I'm just feeling lighter and better. So it's like it you 1983 02:08:16.399 --> 02:08:20.640 can reverse certain things or stave certain things off if you put the work in 1984 02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:24.079 certainly. I mean, look, more people need to hear that turns out. 1985 02:08:24.279 --> 02:08:26.680 Doing exercise feels good. It turns out and a lot of things. 1986 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:31.039 Yeah yeah, maybe folks at home, you won't be as angry and upset 1987 02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:35.479 about the world if you just go out and and I don't know how your 1988 02:08:35.520 --> 02:08:43.359 grass it does roads, but yeah, I roads playing around on the weekends, 1989 02:08:43.479 --> 02:08:46.399 you know, Yeah, get more Dolph in your life, grub. 1990 02:08:46.520 --> 02:08:50.520 I think you would really enjoy. Have you seen the steel mace workouts? 1991 02:08:52.800 --> 02:08:56.319 No, it's just like like like one of those big like lever workouts where 1992 02:08:56.359 --> 02:09:00.119 you work with like a big long pole. Yep, exactly like it. 1993 02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:03.399 At the end, you know what you need to do if you like that. 1994 02:09:03.680 --> 02:09:07.359 Watch the video of Scott Steiner's workout DVD where he's just lifting up logs 1995 02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:11.319 and tires and stuff and screaming. Yeah it's uh yeah with all of his 1996 02:09:11.399 --> 02:09:16.239 favorite freaks are there just watching him lift chains and stuff. It's incredible. 1997 02:09:16.800 --> 02:09:20.880 Yeah. Yeah, God, I kind of want to go, like do 1998 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:22.800 a cartwheel now or something. Yeah, it's talk about workout, do you 1999 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:26.359 what do you mean, like, oh, just to feel good? No, 2000 02:09:26.640 --> 02:09:28.319 just like I just want to see if I could do like a one 2001 02:09:28.399 --> 02:09:35.000 armed cartwheel. All right, emails, I'm enjoying our fitness arc era. 2002 02:09:35.319 --> 02:09:39.880 Yeah, yeah, you went home. It's never too late. All you 2003 02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:43.840 got to do just start like did you like pick one like program that someone 2004 02:09:43.880 --> 02:09:46.960 sent and started doing it. If you look at the GB discord, greb, 2005 02:09:46.039 --> 02:09:50.880 someone had tagged in it and uh shots out to divine on the GB 2006 02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:54.800 discord, they made a whole workout regiment catered to me. Nice. Hell 2007 02:09:56.079 --> 02:10:01.560 right. They're a personal trainer in the u PDX is Portland. Yeah that 2008 02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:07.720 sounds right, Yes, the Portland area. I'll find their info if they 2009 02:10:09.039 --> 02:10:13.319 justify the X. I mean, look, Kansas City's airport is MC. 2010 02:10:13.479 --> 02:10:16.920 I like Airport Coast. Okay, so that's the airport code. Okay, 2011 02:10:18.199 --> 02:10:22.600 okay, that's okay, fair enough anyway, I signed so yeah, Uh 2012 02:10:22.960 --> 02:10:28.359 first email, how that they justify? Yeah, get away with that. 2013 02:10:28.439 --> 02:10:35.560 That's just a funny like justify that. Uh. First email comes from Chris 2014 02:10:35.600 --> 02:10:39.520 from Texas asking for Boston Recks. Hey Bombers. So I'm going to be 2015 02:10:39.560 --> 02:10:41.359 in Boston for a few days in August, mostly for the one Piece Night 2016 02:10:41.439 --> 02:10:46.600 at the Red Sox game where they're giving away a bobblehead of Lucy Loofy in 2017 02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:50.000 a Red Sox jersey. But what's more important is I'll be there for three 2018 02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:52.920 days and I'm looking for fun stuff to do in great places to eat with 2019 02:10:52.079 --> 02:10:56.520 my wife. My wife, they included that parentheses. Since you all had 2020 02:10:56.520 --> 02:10:58.399 such a good time there for packs, I was wondering if you had any 2021 02:10:58.399 --> 02:11:03.119 suggestions. I also considered going to the Salted Caramel wopster role, but it 2022 02:11:03.199 --> 02:11:05.640 sounds like you got to be a hotel guest there anyway. Thanks for the 2023 02:11:05.640 --> 02:11:09.560 help. Christ from Texas. I am bummed hearing this that I didn't take 2024 02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:11.479 us to Lily's Bar while we were there, because I went there last year 2025 02:11:11.800 --> 02:11:16.439 with my dad, and there's called Lilies Bar and Patio and it's just like 2026 02:11:16.720 --> 02:11:20.560 funky pizzas and a bunch of like cool like shareable appetizers and stuff like that, 2027 02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:22.439 and just a really cool place with cool cocktails. You never mentioned that. 2028 02:11:22.520 --> 02:11:24.840 I can't believe I didn't. It's literally the only place I'm looking at 2029 02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:28.399 the Boston map. The only star I have on my Google Maps is Lilies 2030 02:11:28.479 --> 02:11:30.159 Bar. It's like, I gotta go back there if I'm ever in Boston. 2031 02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:33.479 Great cocktails, great vibe to the place. Man. Yeah, I 2032 02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:35.000 don't know. I fucked up. But next time we're in Boston, Lilies 2033 02:11:35.039 --> 02:11:39.239 Bar for to get downtown too. That brewery we went to Backlar What was 2034 02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:41.800 that called Trillium? Oh? Really good? That was good. It was 2035 02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:46.359 nice. Yeah, go to Trillium. There's a couple of them in Boston. 2036 02:11:46.600 --> 02:11:50.560 That's my favorite beer in town. But I don't claim to be any 2037 02:11:50.600 --> 02:11:56.800 sort of Boston experts. Tiki Bar was great. Yeah, surely, surely 2038 02:11:56.119 --> 02:12:01.039 yes, yeah, sure leave not sure Lye's like I kept thinking it was 2039 02:12:01.239 --> 02:12:03.439 sure leave yes. Yeah, that was a great night. We We also 2040 02:12:03.560 --> 02:12:07.359 were in a part of Boston that's like, I feel like a lot of 2041 02:12:07.439 --> 02:12:11.600 Bostonians don't consider it to be real. That's what makes it good. Yeah, 2042 02:12:11.359 --> 02:12:15.640 you know so, I like the part where I won ten thousand dollars, 2043 02:12:16.079 --> 02:12:20.560 right, that was a cool moment that more often, I will never 2044 02:12:20.680 --> 02:12:24.119 forget that. I will never forget you just going over to the bar and 2045 02:12:24.399 --> 02:12:28.359 just chatting up somebody you've never met, just because you could not be thinking 2046 02:12:28.399 --> 02:12:33.279 about this sports timeline. Yeah, I was just so confident. I just 2047 02:12:33.399 --> 02:12:35.760 knew it was gonna happen. I'm sorry it seemed pretty certain, but I 2048 02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:39.960 couldn't think that way. Like it was like they would have had to score 2049 02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:43.000 like four goals in right, But it's not. It's not possible. You 2050 02:12:43.119 --> 02:12:45.960 know that one time I because I left some money on there, I showed 2051 02:12:45.960 --> 02:12:46.720 you like, hey, I'm gonna win again. It's not quite as much 2052 02:12:46.760 --> 02:12:50.359 money, and then fucking one team did blow a huge lead and I never 2053 02:12:50.439 --> 02:12:56.479 ended up winning that. So yeah, yeah, next email is about gains. 2054 02:12:58.039 --> 02:13:01.159 Still in fitness, what's a BombCast? I want to suggest a workout 2055 02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:05.079 for y'all that pairs perfectly with disc golf. You all should join a climbing 2056 02:13:05.159 --> 02:13:09.359 gym. You can spend what I want, You can spend way too much 2057 02:13:09.399 --> 02:13:11.399 money on shoes and chalk bags, you can learn a bunch of new Lingo, 2058 02:13:11.600 --> 02:13:15.640 and depending on the gym, you're basically working out on a giant mattress. 2059 02:13:16.039 --> 02:13:20.560 I started climbing about two months ago. Parenthes He shouts out Minneapolis Bouldering 2060 02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:24.840 Project. And not only are the gains a parent it's the only workout routine 2061 02:13:24.000 --> 02:13:28.399 I've had where I've had to force myself to take a rest day. It's 2062 02:13:28.439 --> 02:13:31.000 really fun. It's addicting as hell. There's lots to learn and solving a 2063 02:13:31.079 --> 02:13:33.319 route feels like beating a boss in a soul's game. Become climbing people, 2064 02:13:33.560 --> 02:13:37.039 hit me up if you're ever visiting Daniell, I'll get you on a guest 2065 02:13:37.079 --> 02:13:39.840 pass. Thomas from Minneapolis. Yeah, I wonder if he works at Vertical 2066 02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:43.399 Endeavors, which is where Tim Terry got really obsessed with. Yeah. Tim 2067 02:13:43.479 --> 02:13:46.840 Terry got very obsessed with climbing for a while and would not stop talking about 2068 02:13:46.840 --> 02:13:50.880 it, and like made a bunch of us go, like me and Hanson 2069 02:13:50.920 --> 02:13:52.840 and Ben Reeves and stuff all went and we try and it's hard, like 2070 02:13:52.920 --> 02:13:56.119 he's doing crazy stuff and climbing up there and doing all this stuff, and 2071 02:13:56.199 --> 02:13:58.800 like our fingers are hurting and stuff. So I think for a while, 2072 02:13:58.840 --> 02:14:01.359 me and Ben Reeves just went down into the mats and did wrestling moves to 2073 02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:03.760 each other. You take a rock bottom like. So that was that was 2074 02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:07.319 my climbing experience. That was fun. Yeah, I'm worried about my fingies. 2075 02:14:07.520 --> 02:14:11.920 That hurts. I can't I can't do bouldering because of the tendonitis in 2076 02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:13.479 my hands. Yeah. Have you guys, have you guys done the test 2077 02:14:13.560 --> 02:14:16.840 of like can you hold yourself up from a bar for sixty seconds because that 2078 02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:22.960 is mostly about grip strength and you know pull up. Oh I think I 2079 02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:26.399 could do that? Yea, yeah, okay yeah, And they're like grip 2080 02:14:26.479 --> 02:14:28.560 strength, it's one of the best ways to tell whether or not you're gonna 2081 02:14:28.560 --> 02:14:31.359 have a lot of longevity. So people have if you have, like we 2082 02:14:31.720 --> 02:14:33.800 grip strength when you're older, it's like, this is a bad sign. 2083 02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:37.119 You should be working on that. Do you guys ever time your planks? 2084 02:14:37.960 --> 02:14:43.319 Yeah, I did recently. I can do like thirty seconds pretty easily, 2085 02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:45.640 and then anytime after that, it's like, oh, this is gonna get 2086 02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:48.800 right, like a minute. I'm trying to do over two every day now 2087 02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:54.319 and like you know, pull on pushing style. Yeah, try, Like 2088 02:14:54.600 --> 02:14:56.159 two minutes is a long time. You're shaken by the end of it, 2089 02:14:56.279 --> 02:15:00.520 but like, oh yeah, I'm shaking five seconds in baby. That don't 2090 02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:03.479 that don't make it wrong. You know. It's funny. My dad never 2091 02:15:03.560 --> 02:15:05.439 works out, and he wanted to start working out, and so last time 2092 02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:07.199 I was in town, he like had me come to a gym. He 2093 02:15:07.279 --> 02:15:11.079 had a ten dollar a month Jimmy signed up for. He's like, show 2094 02:15:11.119 --> 02:15:13.359 me how to workout basically, like how does this elyptical thing work? Or 2095 02:15:13.399 --> 02:15:15.960 how does this? And I was also explaining like, oh, an easy 2096 02:15:16.000 --> 02:15:18.279 thing you could do at home is just a plank and I explained it to 2097 02:15:18.399 --> 02:15:20.520 him and I was like, yeah, you just hold yourself up and like 2098 02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:22.239 if you could do that for you know, thirty seconds a minute And he's 2099 02:15:22.279 --> 02:15:26.399 like, what that's easy. That's a that's not that's not a workout, 2100 02:15:26.439 --> 02:15:28.119 that's it. Do you want to do? You want to try? Sic, 2101 02:15:28.319 --> 02:15:30.239 That's just that's too easy. That's why would I waste my time doing 2102 02:15:30.279 --> 02:15:39.239 that? It was like try it like five seconds. It's oh, fitness 2103 02:15:39.279 --> 02:15:43.039 folks at home is like she should I be like getting on the pro proteins 2104 02:15:43.079 --> 02:15:43.840 as well as what do you want? What do you want to do? 2105 02:15:45.359 --> 02:15:48.439 I'm trying to get like Roman brains. Damn, you need to have a 2106 02:15:48.560 --> 02:15:52.880 calorie surplus and a bunch of protein. Okay, I just spilled coffee. 2107 02:15:52.079 --> 02:15:58.079 My question for climbing is I don't like relying on other people for this. 2108 02:15:58.119 --> 02:16:00.439 I want to be able to just go and do my thing hand go. 2109 02:16:00.600 --> 02:16:03.960 I always imagine a climbing gym requires like the ballet and stuff. No bouldering 2110 02:16:05.079 --> 02:16:09.000 is just freehand. It is ok Yeah, yeah, that's us. Okay. 2111 02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:13.039 I want to be able to go to a gym inside air conditioned and 2112 02:16:13.199 --> 02:16:15.560 not have anyone else hold the rope for me, and I don't want to 2113 02:16:15.600 --> 02:16:18.239 hold anyone else's rope, so no, no, no bouldering. It's like 2114 02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:26.840 bouldering is shorter, uh walls and then you're just going based off of like 2115 02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:31.319 the difficulty that you choose for the roof crab and then it's just yeah, 2116 02:16:31.359 --> 02:16:33.000 freehand in your feties. Yeah, there's no episodes. It's gonna be fall. 2117 02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:35.239 It's short. It's just like a back bump onto a map. Yeah 2118 02:16:35.280 --> 02:16:39.559 yeah, that's make sure to tuck your head, throw the arms, yeah 2119 02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:43.920 yeah, the judo judo fall. Yeah. Oh I still maintain this, 2120 02:16:45.639 --> 02:16:48.360 Dan. I think there could have been an alternate route for you where you 2121 02:16:48.440 --> 02:16:52.840 got really into Brazilian jiu jitsu. I did moy Tie by a group on 2122 02:16:52.959 --> 02:17:03.520 from moy Thai, right, yeah, we're probably like twenty twelve, twenty 2123 02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:05.440 thirteen, and I got Ben Hansen to come with me. It was like 2124 02:17:05.520 --> 02:17:09.760 five classes at a place called the Cellar in Minneapolis, and I went and 2125 02:17:09.879 --> 02:17:11.600 it was fucking awesome because it's like a lot of holding bags and kicking bags 2126 02:17:11.639 --> 02:17:16.159 and just really just like wrenching into it. It felt great, but uh 2127 02:17:16.319 --> 02:17:18.959 I did jam my finger really bad like three classes in and had to stop. 2128 02:17:20.280 --> 02:17:24.680 And I could be misremembering this, but I do remember Hanson getting so 2129 02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:28.120 light headed that I feel like he was like whoa and had to like because 2130 02:17:28.120 --> 02:17:30.799 I think I was sparring with Hanson if I remember right, and he got 2131 02:17:30.879 --> 02:17:33.079 light headed and because they did a thing where it's like you got to lift 2132 02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:35.440 your arms up and then he just burned on the person's stomach and like it 2133 02:17:35.840 --> 02:17:39.879 sucks. And I think I remember him like walking back to the locker room 2134 02:17:39.959 --> 02:17:43.799 to get his clothes and leave like in a daze, and I think he 2135 02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:48.319 accidentally went into the women's room. And so in my head it's Ben Hansen 2136 02:17:48.479 --> 02:17:52.879 just like Frank and sign walking and then hearing in my head I might be 2137 02:17:52.920 --> 02:17:56.520 Missmer. Now that's exactly that's how it happened. That's how it Yeah, 2138 02:17:58.479 --> 02:18:03.000 all right, a couple more before we get out of here. Next email, 2139 02:18:03.360 --> 02:18:07.799 Hey Bombers, two part question for you. One, what were some 2140 02:18:07.920 --> 02:18:11.719 cases of advertisements inside games that somehow felt okay with you and not trashy or 2141 02:18:11.799 --> 02:18:16.719 lame? I'm thinking Crazy Taxi, Tony Hawk, maybe Fortnite, Yeah, 2142 02:18:16.799 --> 02:18:20.639 like Burnout Fortnite. I just accepted, like this is just like that is 2143 02:18:20.799 --> 02:18:24.639 the game, you know, like that feature. Yeah, yeah, but 2144 02:18:24.799 --> 02:18:28.280 Crazy Texas firstime that came to line for me. Yeah, definitely. I 2145 02:18:28.959 --> 02:18:31.959 saw when you were talking about ads in games last week grew up. Someone 2146 02:18:33.079 --> 02:18:39.920 mentioned you can get a pizza hut box as a shield and Fantasy Star and 2147 02:18:39.040 --> 02:18:43.000 I'm cool with that, right if it's really dumb, I think like cup 2148 02:18:43.079 --> 02:18:48.760 Noodle in any Koja thing where he's done monster Energy Monster Energy Drink. I 2149 02:18:48.799 --> 02:18:52.159 thought that was pretty stupid and fun and death stranding. So yeah, Jed, 2150 02:18:52.280 --> 02:18:54.639 have you gotta be tasteful jet Modo with the mountain dew? Yeah? 2151 02:18:54.680 --> 02:18:58.079 Maybe it doesn't even need to be tasteful, I know, but tasteful. 2152 02:18:58.200 --> 02:19:03.239 But I'm being very charitable with the definition of tasteful here. But like it 2153 02:19:03.600 --> 02:19:07.000 has to it has to be able to like pass a certain kind of like 2154 02:19:07.159 --> 02:19:11.680 test, you know, a certain kind of sniff test can be ridiculous. 2155 02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:15.040 Did did anyone during the Dan doco Derek thing, because one of the objectives 2156 02:19:15.360 --> 02:19:18.559 was see a Tommy Hill figure logo, And I didn't specify the game. 2157 02:19:18.600 --> 02:19:22.079 Did anyone get Yeah, yeah, I got it. I went to loads 2158 02:19:22.120 --> 02:19:24.799 up and I knew as soon as you said, I'm like, well, 2159 02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:26.920 that's the easiest one. I'm just gonna load of ten eighty. It's right 2160 02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:28.920 there in the splash screen. Yeah. A sacker, I would have hated 2161 02:19:28.920 --> 02:19:33.959 it. Yeah, it was like like a dragon infinite wealth. Was that 2162 02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:37.879 like an ad also for Hawaii? Kind by the whole? Yeah, the 2163 02:19:37.920 --> 02:19:41.360 tours? That was product. That's more product. Yeah, okay. The 2164 02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:46.879 second question is what is the common thread that makes these ads? Okay? 2165 02:19:46.479 --> 02:19:48.959 Why are we just pulsed by, okay, by the concept of an in 2166 02:19:50.079 --> 02:19:52.040 game ad like a billboard in Rainbow six or during a load screen. But 2167 02:19:52.120 --> 02:19:56.120 Norman readas chugging monsters is okay? Market is yours? Not a pr executive. 2168 02:19:56.120 --> 02:20:01.479 I swear it's because it is product place Smith. It is an easier 2169 02:20:01.559 --> 02:20:03.600 pill to swallow when it's a part of the thing. Like you don't really 2170 02:20:03.760 --> 02:20:07.639 see the ads on the board of the hockey ring, yeah, right, 2171 02:20:07.760 --> 02:20:13.120 Like you don't see that in a way you see your moment being. You 2172 02:20:13.280 --> 02:20:16.360 see something taking over a screen and delays you from doing a thing. There's 2173 02:20:16.479 --> 02:20:20.840 intrusive and passive ads in that I'm at a point where the ads that show 2174 02:20:20.879 --> 02:20:24.159 up on like the Xbox interface that really bother people. I don't even notice 2175 02:20:24.239 --> 02:20:26.440 them, doesn't bother me at all anymore, but a lot of people are 2176 02:20:26.440 --> 02:20:30.479 really bothered by that. So part of this is I'm just used to it. 2177 02:20:31.079 --> 02:20:37.760 Next email, I also miss cigarette ads. Okay, we should bring 2178 02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:41.639 those back specifically. Yeah, I miss like going to like Shay Stadium and 2179 02:20:41.680 --> 02:20:48.079 seeing like a big Malborough in the comic book, you're like Winston cigarette high 2180 02:20:50.319 --> 02:20:54.959 Yeah, camels yeah hell yeah, Tim writs and hello BombCast When upf Dan 2181 02:20:56.079 --> 02:20:58.719 wanted to be able to use Prime on the game scent. Though it looks 2182 02:20:58.760 --> 02:21:03.920 like that won't work. However, he could get an ultrasonic humidifier that would 2183 02:21:03.959 --> 02:21:07.959 send the prime into the air. That's what he was thinking that the same 2184 02:21:07.399 --> 02:21:11.200 is Yes, okay, they also make smart ones that can be connected, 2185 02:21:11.440 --> 02:21:16.760 so he could maybe remotely activate it as well. How well it would actually 2186 02:21:16.799 --> 02:21:18.479 work? I have no idea, Thanks Tim. If you could just start 2187 02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:22.760 randomly buying products and being like you have to install this in your home, 2188 02:21:22.959 --> 02:21:28.000 that is that's crazy, grub. I literally this morning the thought did enter 2189 02:21:28.120 --> 02:21:30.600 and axent my mind. I didn't act on it, don't know of Like, 2190 02:21:30.760 --> 02:21:33.120 man, it'd be so funny if I could get the actual stink bomb 2191 02:21:33.200 --> 02:21:35.040 for juice stuff in there. And I was like, how am I going 2192 02:21:35.120 --> 02:21:37.360 to possibly? Like men, he's probably not there that often. I did 2193 02:21:37.559 --> 02:21:39.399 cross my mind, like should I email Grub's wife and ask if she'll put 2194 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:43.840 far juice in the game. Sense she would never because you didn't you know 2195 02:21:43.959 --> 02:21:48.520 how bad that smells. Oh yeah, oh I do. Yeah, it 2196 02:21:48.559 --> 02:21:50.280 would make the whole house right, I know. I used to do it. 2197 02:21:50.440 --> 02:21:54.959 My mom was not happy. Done it in cars, done it in 2198 02:21:54.040 --> 02:21:56.600 homes and bars, done it yeah, that was kind of my thing. 2199 02:21:56.760 --> 02:21:58.719 Oh bars, he had. I went to a bar once where someone did 2200 02:21:58.760 --> 02:22:03.600 that. Cleared the whole place out if it's a crowd of bar. Not 2201 02:22:03.799 --> 02:22:07.200 advocating it out, but helped me get some beer's quicker in college, Hey 2202 02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:11.440 Dan, do some Oh cool, the game Sen's going off weird? Do 2203 02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:13.079 an ultra marathon here? You just you're running, Just run here and put 2204 02:22:13.120 --> 02:22:18.159 it in there. But I'm not looking. Yeah running run there just yeah. 2205 02:22:18.239 --> 02:22:22.479 Yeah, that's a long way break into his home. Hey you wouldn't 2206 02:22:22.840 --> 02:22:28.600 charge it, No, that's rue Okay, if well, if you wanted 2207 02:22:28.920 --> 02:22:31.879 didn't want to make content out of it, Yeah, sure, yeah, 2208 02:22:31.920 --> 02:22:37.600 the fun fart juice all right. Uh. We had another email about someone 2209 02:22:37.840 --> 02:22:41.159 writing in to kill time while they're waiting in a TSA line. But last 2210 02:22:41.239 --> 02:22:43.760 email of the show comes from Mett from South Carolina. Dear Bombers, I 2211 02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:48.079 really like the Final Fantasy seven remix so far, but I have to watch 2212 02:22:48.159 --> 02:22:50.000 others play through it because I keep dying when I try to play it. 2213 02:22:50.399 --> 02:22:54.600 Yes, I fiddled with the settings and knock the difficulty down, but for 2214 02:22:54.719 --> 02:22:58.200 some reason, my dumb brain can't quite mesh with a combat and I get 2215 02:22:58.239 --> 02:23:01.319 my ass kicked whenever I try. There any games you like but have no 2216 02:23:01.360 --> 02:23:05.920 but have to experience the story through others because you're bad at them? Thanks? 2217 02:23:05.040 --> 02:23:09.120 Love the show, Mat from South Carolina. Fighting games I'm bad at, 2218 02:23:09.159 --> 02:23:13.680 so I like watching fighting games. Yeah, I'm bad at having patients, 2219 02:23:13.879 --> 02:23:16.479 so any game that requires a ton of that. If I really want 2220 02:23:16.520 --> 02:23:18.040 to see what's going on there, I might watch the story or something. 2221 02:23:18.079 --> 02:23:22.639 I don't know. Yeah, I like watching Eldenreen because I'm just never I 2222 02:23:22.799 --> 02:23:28.079 just I don't, I just I can't fit that into my life. It's 2223 02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:31.680 just too good too. I want to do it, but like I just 2224 02:23:31.719 --> 02:23:33.600 don't have the time. I don't think I have the time. Quite frankly, 2225 02:23:33.799 --> 02:23:39.159 I just don't closest for me probably like not enjoying peace Walker and just 2226 02:23:39.280 --> 02:23:41.879 like watching like all the cut scenes, you know, I think even familiar 2227 02:23:41.000 --> 02:23:43.319 scaling. We didn't play it. We just like watch all the cut scenes. 2228 02:23:43.360 --> 02:23:46.879 Not that I keep thinking I should probably play Peacewalker, but yeah, 2229 02:23:46.079 --> 02:23:50.280 yeah, yeah, it was peace Walker in that collection of ca that. 2230 02:23:50.399 --> 02:23:52.280 Yeah, it's on there, so like I don't have an excuse. I 2231 02:23:52.280 --> 02:23:54.799 could easily play it. I own it on several things now, Oh uh, 2232 02:23:56.079 --> 02:24:01.120 StarCraft and like DODA League, that's another one that I like to watch 2233 02:24:01.280 --> 02:24:05.760 versus actually play league in Doda. It's because sometimes the community just got awful. 2234 02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:09.479 But StarCraft, your boys hands can't move that fast. I watch a 2235 02:24:09.559 --> 02:24:15.000 lot of quackshot speed runs over and over again. But you're also playing that. 2236 02:24:15.200 --> 02:24:16.280 I know, I know, but yeah, I watched the best. 2237 02:24:16.680 --> 02:24:20.719 Well, what like is there Like it sounds like there's a lot of them. 2238 02:24:20.840 --> 02:24:22.879 Is there, like a go to quack shot speed run like a Zeewi 2239 02:24:24.120 --> 02:24:26.000 or something. I think is the number one guy he's been great, has 2240 02:24:26.000 --> 02:24:28.760 shown up in Gee Geewee. Yeah, he's got the twenty three minute forty 2241 02:24:28.799 --> 02:24:31.719 three, which is insane. Man, I watched him try to the Transylvania 2242 02:24:31.719 --> 02:24:35.479 Skip is nuts. It's just he's He's the one I watch over and over 2243 02:24:35.520 --> 02:24:39.239 and over again. Now that I'm trying to kind of hone in, but 2244 02:24:39.600 --> 02:24:41.440 it's hard. Are you going to get the long jump? I am? 2245 02:24:41.719 --> 02:24:45.639 So the thing is, I can't do it every time now, but I 2246 02:24:45.680 --> 02:24:48.280 can do it enough to where I could get lucky once and that's all I 2247 02:24:48.360 --> 02:24:52.159 need you. It'll make a big enough difference that that's worth it. Oh 2248 02:24:52.239 --> 02:24:54.680 absolutely. And the good thing is all the long jumps, if you need 2249 02:24:54.680 --> 02:24:56.639 to do, for the most part, is in the first level in Mexico. 2250 02:24:56.959 --> 02:24:58.360 So it's like I can just restart it. It's not like I have 2251 02:24:58.440 --> 02:25:01.719 to get all away there and then suck it up and restart. I fuck 2252 02:25:01.799 --> 02:25:05.120 up right away. So I'm just playing Mexico over and over and over again, 2253 02:25:05.200 --> 02:25:09.719 right now. Okay, cool, yep, fan stick And that does 2254 02:25:09.760 --> 02:25:13.239 it for emails, folks, And that about does it for the show to 2255 02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:16.280 day and this week what we got going on for the rest of this week, 2256 02:25:16.280 --> 02:25:20.079 we got game. This morning's popping off Monday or Wednesday, Thursday, 2257 02:25:20.159 --> 02:25:24.639 Friday. We also have a d light club this week because Mike Minatti is 2258 02:25:24.680 --> 02:25:30.200 doing business things all over this country. Shn we decide right now. We 2259 02:25:30.280 --> 02:25:33.360 were talking about maybe Incredible Crisis, maybe also Dekatonic game Boy, which is 2260 02:25:33.399 --> 02:25:35.879 supposed to be a good one. What do you want? It's your special 2261 02:25:35.959 --> 02:25:41.840 day, you know I'm gonna have both. And let's see, let's see 2262 02:25:41.840 --> 02:25:45.319 what we're feeling. Way, I'm expensing you pop Eyes. It's on backlar, 2263 02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:48.440 so you're getting some Popeyes delivered to you. So you can't wait. 2264 02:25:48.719 --> 02:25:52.280 It doesn't come out of my wallet? Can can I like? It? 2265 02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:54.239 Is there like a drop down? Or I can just say the picture of 2266 02:25:54.239 --> 02:26:00.239 your face? So that's cold. That's cold. That's cold. Rob you 2267 02:26:00.760 --> 02:26:03.319 rob someone of your ask. No you can't, No, you can't spend 2268 02:26:07.360 --> 02:26:11.840 spend that. We get some Popeyes grab It'll be good all right tomorrow tomorrow 2269 02:26:13.399 --> 02:26:16.079 you too can play at home. Go get yourself some pop Ye it's the 2270 02:26:16.159 --> 02:26:20.879 best chicken sandwhichever, it's really good. It's Thursday. We have a grabag 2271 02:26:20.000 --> 02:26:24.520 stream. We're gonna check out a couple of games. Uh that that have 2272 02:26:24.600 --> 02:26:28.520 been popping off. We'll probably just show off some senuas saga on the website 2273 02:26:28.959 --> 02:26:35.200 and then we're continuing our elder ring adventures on up F this week as well 2274 02:26:35.319 --> 02:26:37.200 as a b c R. Maybe we should do amount Rush Moore of Stealth 2275 02:26:37.239 --> 02:26:43.239 Games. He figure it out. Yeah, I was gonna suggest maybe we 2276 02:26:43.319 --> 02:26:48.399 do an Xbox draft, but maybe not. We could. Let's we'll decide 2277 02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:50.920 a draft could be fun though maybe not an Xbox one, maybe some other 2278 02:26:50.000 --> 02:26:54.360 kind of draft. Yeah. Uh and then uh yeah, that about does 2279 02:26:54.399 --> 02:26:56.479 it for this week. Well. Also, as we mentioned at the top 2280 02:26:56.520 --> 02:27:00.239 of the show, tickets are available now to Giant Bomb at Night, Une 2281 02:27:00.280 --> 02:27:03.479 sixth at the bell Weather June ninth, June ninth, sixth, ninth. 2282 02:27:03.680 --> 02:27:09.680 Nice. Uh. We'll have guests like Jason Schreyer on a Pierce parasally e 2283 02:27:09.799 --> 02:27:16.000 f wadwe Uh, Mike Minnaughty and then Patrick as well as a bunch of 2284 02:27:16.079 --> 02:27:18.159 other guests. The clinic is that kid that that won the contest to be 2285 02:27:18.239 --> 02:27:20.920 on stage, right, Yeah, it's I think it's a make a wish 2286 02:27:20.959 --> 02:27:24.399 thing, Okay, you know, it's like a tombson pizza contest or something. 2287 02:27:24.600 --> 02:27:28.000 Yeah, he's like he's a kid YouTube kid. But yeah, yeah, 2288 02:27:28.719 --> 02:27:33.040 we got a bunch of other guests. Uh uh yet to announce it's 2289 02:27:33.079 --> 02:27:37.239 gonna be fun stuff, fun stuff. Believe me, we've had meetings and 2290 02:27:37.479 --> 02:27:41.920 uh I've I've never seen Dan as excited as he was earlier when I mentioned 2291 02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:54.559 mister Mosquito. Right, yeah, imagine him getting excited about something other than 2292 02:27:54.600 --> 02:27:58.719 that's It's beautiful. Bless God, bless you Dan. What we learned today? 2293 02:27:58.239 --> 02:28:01.719 We learned that maybe Jeff Grubb has to dodge in ice cream if we 2294 02:28:01.799 --> 02:28:05.840 go out for ice cream. We learned that Dan loves mister Mosquito. We 2295 02:28:07.000 --> 02:28:11.760 learned about typing piss. I don't remember what that was about. Grub was 2296 02:28:11.760 --> 02:28:15.079 trying to make the look stick feel good. Maybe you say scribble not to 2297 02:28:15.120 --> 02:28:20.319 a Jason instead of scribbled Nazi. We learned that games have changed because nipple 2298 02:28:20.399 --> 02:28:24.280 DLC is no longer a thing. We learned that maybe old folks that are 2299 02:28:24.360 --> 02:28:28.120 watching too many commercials and maybe they're the ones that love Raymond. We also 2300 02:28:28.239 --> 02:28:31.639 learned that we're headed to a future littered with as in games. Soccer rise 2301 02:28:31.719 --> 02:28:35.040 pretty cool for denying a dolbiad in front of a game and Hey, we 2302 02:28:35.120 --> 02:28:39.040 also learned that we're getting into our fitness era, folks. I've been Jam, 2303 02:28:39.280 --> 02:28:43.079 he's been Jeff, he's been Jeff, he's been Dan and he at 2304 02:28:43.120 --> 02:28:48.360 home have been gorgeous today. Go outside and touch some actual grass. Go 2305 02:28:48.520 --> 02:28:52.760 go outside and lift a kettlebell, do some squats, do some Hindu squats. 2306 02:28:52.000 --> 02:28:56.680 Go for a run, Go go, go punt a football. We'll 2307 02:28:56.719 --> 02:29:01.000 see you next week. Love that for another episode up Giant Bodcast. I 2308 02:29:01.079 --> 02:29:05.120 can't get this other music to stop. I'm sorry shutting that different frogether. 2309 02:29:07.520 --> 02:29:09.280 We're a freaky little dude that's been NAUGHTI