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Hey everybody, it's Tuesday. Welcome
to the Giant BombCast powered by NDXT,

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Episode eight one hundred and forty one. Today is May twenty first, twenty

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twenty four. I am your host, Jan Achoa. Welcome to the Cinnamon

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Roll of video Game Podcast. That's
right, We're warm, we're gooey,

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we're delectable, we're a little sweet
treats that you feel a little bit guilty

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for indulging in. But hey,
we're here, baby. We're here just

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like the Aunty ANNs, and we're
also the aunty Ands. We're also the

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Pretzels, a video game podcast joining
me Pretzel Conna sour Jeff crub Barret Cortney

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says he's still sorry that his dog
was mean to your dog. Jan.

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I had dinner with him last night, and uh, he still feels guilty

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his his dog wasn't mean. It's
fine. Well, he still feels guilty

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about it. So that's I figured
to start the podcast with that. We

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got the mad Dog video games media. Damn record, that's me. That's

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what people have called me for a
long time. Yes, yes, that

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that is that is your He's going
right, exact thing. That's Benati whoa

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and that was our freaky little dude
audio listeners, it's a little clay Mike

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Manatti. Yeah, it's basically the
key the cake that we have, but

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just as like a little figure.
So in sent I think, I think

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this is supposed to go to him. It was in our po box for

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our thing that we do. What
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printed there it feels like printed or
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audio, it is a RoboCop head
of Mike Manatti with feet sticking out like

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the famous cake from the Famous The
Infamous. Yes, yeah, it's very

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Goomba adjacent. Yeah. I couldn't
find it, and my kid comes to

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I think, I know what you're
looking for. And then she comes back

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later, so I think she had
put this in a Heidi hole somewhere.

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I love how your child knows where
to find a RoboCop head of your friend.

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Yes, And I was like,
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a weird thing, is what I
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Come down here. In a couple
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think I know about a weird thing. I found the one weird thing in

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the house. Dan. Yeah,
here it is at last, but not

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least, our own master of cakes. He's hiding in his Heidi hole and

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he's got he's it's littered with keyboards
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Finals will look like. Jeff Beckler. Yeah, we don't know yet,

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but thank you for that intro,
My buddy, Jan Good to be here,

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Happy to be here, Delighted to
share the microphone with all of you.

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Can you imagine if we were trying
to do this podcast with one microphone

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and we're just like, that's how
we did the Beast Cast and she no,

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just like inching close to each other
and something. I watched Challengers this

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weekend. Whoa talk about the microphone? That's Challengers. I'm just assuming that

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that's a tennis sex movie, rights
tennis movie? What do you mean tennis

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X guys? You knowles? What? Yeah? What is? What is

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it really for the tennis crowd?
I think it's about tennis players that have

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sex with each other? Yeah,
I mean is that that the trailer makes

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it look like, well, no
one said that, but I think it

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might be. I mean it's like
a love triangle kind of they play on

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a rectangle. No, no,
love triangle not the Oh so we're talking

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doubles m a little bit about the
Adam Driver movie, right, Adam Driver

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made it? What about it?
It looks it looks a net adjacent.

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Yes, it looks like the sci
fi sequel to a Net. No,

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that thing that dinosaur movie he did, that's the site that's did Adam Driver

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did. Oh okay, okay,
No, this is this trailer. I

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was watching that whole thing. I
was like, what the I watched it

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very time. Yeah. People like
out of its con right now right?

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Yeah? Yeah, they haven't even
announced like a wide release. Ye,

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I don't think. I feel like
I don't think anyone's picked it up for

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wide release yet. That's a matter
of let's screen it at SGF. I

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was gonna say, I feel like
people are saying good things about it.

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People. People are saying things about
it. They're saying like the one okay,

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the one anecdote I heard is so
and it's like I went to the

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bathroom an hour in and I found
a man just kind of hunkered over in

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the hallway saying it's a nightmare that
let's go. Let's go. Yes,

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I mean, you know, he's
like eighty eight, and they're like letting

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him make movies because I think that's
cool that he's paying it for here's a

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million of his own money. Yes, Daniel is like a hell shuit the

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way like Apocalypse Now and stuff was. So it's like, oh he's back.

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Here we go. I'm so glad
this is happening. Like it's in

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a situation now where it's like you
can't afford not to see it, right,

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Yeah, you have to see it. And whereas Annette, I'd be

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fine not having seen it. No, No, I know what else is

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a must? You know what else
is a mussy thing? Happening very very

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soon coming to perhaps the Bellevue Theater
in Los Angeles, June ninth. Jeff

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Grub, what's happening June ninth at
the bell Weather in Los Angeles. We're

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gonna do gb at Night Live.
It'll be night three of our show.

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We're inviting you all to come out
and get tickets, come see us.

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It's gonna be everyone from Giant Bomb. I'll be hosting a handful of segments.

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We'll do some fun stuff. You
should definitely pick up your tickets now

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because we've got some friends that are
gonna come hang out with us. And

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including Iffy, a lot of Peers, Jason Schreyer, Patrick Kleppik, a

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whole bunch more. Honestly, I
think I just saw you did that a

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re up to video showing that off. It looks great, but yeah,

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you should act. Now, get
your tickets. They're going fast, so

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definitely go pick those up. Yes, more guests to be announced e I

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P packages available, fun excitement giveaways. Tables because you're gonna have to sit

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at something. Oh no, it's
a couch, muse say, tables,

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typo tape, tables because you know
we you you'll maybe there will be a

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table on the back that you can
rest a drink on. Okay, you're

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going to get the tables, that's
what you're saying. Yeah, I'm going

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to get the tables. It's a
tables match are our crew is going to

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have to put the computer on something, and generally it's a table. I

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think it's a big deal for Mike
Manatti. Yes, can I tell you

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that. I'll just let that phrase
hang for a second, but I think

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it's a big deal for Mike Manatti
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people like Parasally, Ulepic and Alana
Piers as much. But yeah, no,

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I think it's a big deal.
I think it's a big deal for

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like someone to say Jason Schreier and
then soon after say Mike Manatti as the

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two games journalists about as if they
occupy the same headspace. Hey, he's

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at a gaming business convention right now
that his company runs and with our boss.

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Yeah, with the top of the
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kids in a suit trying to sneak
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at, Like when brain and you
see like the monkey with the Sunday Yes,

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I think you Like if you were
to like say one Disney thing his

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like the seven several dozen like mice
that create his body would fall apart a

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little bit. Yeah. I was
looking at the picture he posted of just

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the weird selfie of him just like
his head taking up the whole frame and

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he's got his business thing over a
T shirt, and I was like analyzing

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it. I was like, you
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like does that do those letters say
Mickey? Is this a Mickey shirt underneath

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his business thing? Mickey Mouse shirt? Because you have you guys, you

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guys, you don't you know Mikey
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go full business. That's that's why
I'm more of an adult. In Minatti.

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When I was like officiating Maharty's wedding, I didn't have a D d

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P shirt on underneath my tucks.
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seems very uncomfortable, so I don't
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it was a rockets your shirt,
which is okay. I mean you both

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lose points in being adults. Everyone
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he can. I don't know who's
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this one, yes, because Mike
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he's never really like LARP you LARP
adults. Yeah, I could pretend to

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the best of them. No,
I just got I got these two guys.

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So yeah, yeah, this,
this whole freak will be there.

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I'll bring him to there. Yeah. I was fel with so much pain

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putting Mike as the last name on
that lineup because that's deliberate, Because no,

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because it gives he could think it's
deliberate or he's like the with or

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the and but yeah, and with
Mike Manatti. No, for sure,

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you guys are right, like in
the titles where like you know, Hugh

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Grant is only in for like a
cameo, but it says and Hugh Grant,

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like prospect his agent, like yeah
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wants his own title. Let's see
the Executive Decision thing where it's like

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they gave Sigall top billing even though
he dies in like ten minutes. So

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let's just like top billing for the
Schwarzenegger Batman Robin and just yeah, yeah,

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we oh oh that would be not
bad, like Mike Manatti presents.

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Uh huh no, we can't do
that. We can't do that. We

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could have it like bootleg t shirts
made that only so like sell it like

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actually, yes, you know what
I encourage if you buy tickets to GB

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at night, I courage bootleg merch
in the parking lot of course, all

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right during a scout, Yeah exactly, scalp tickets. Oh we should I

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have a tailgate, but LA doesn't
really support tailgates at all? Is that

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true? I forgot, Let's book
SOPI next year and then we can get

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anyway. Yeah, easy, psy, easy, psy that's right there.

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How's everyone doing? How's everyone going? I'm in like, uh, the

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first complete week of creatine and my
tongue you hurts so bad. I'm filled

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with so much water. Oh bad. Yeah, combined with the coffee bad.

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I understand how normal people feel now
bad. Yeah, you tell you

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about I'm doing pretty good. It
was like, uh, it was nice

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to I get out of the house
and go have dinner with with Barrett yesterday.

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That was nice gotten to meet him
and his dad, Barrett Courtney from

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Kind of Funny. They're they're nice
folks and we just like talk about games.

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We both ran a little bit of
a victory lap where because we both

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got bilatro for very cheap in our
Fantasy Critic league, and he got it

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because he was listening to this podcast. So hi, Barrett, You're welcome.

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But yeah, it was like,
okay, I need to I needed

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to like just get out of the
house and reset and realize it's not all

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just like oh playing games constantly and
then getting set up for summer game fast.

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So I'm like feeling pretty good now. We got a little bit of

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that that reset juice going. When
you said you caught dinner with Barrett.

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I didn't assume at first that he
had gone over to you, Grub.

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I thought you would come over to
here, and I just went on there

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and didn't. Yeah, I didn't
see you. Yeah, it's like,

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what the fuck, rub, and
you're back home already. Yeah, I

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know he's he's in tap for some
family stuff. So yeah, yeah,

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it was cool, lovely, lovely. I don't think Barrett's dog was rude

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to Scout at all. It's fine, Barrett. No, don't trip,

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chocolate Chip. It's all good.
Everyone else is okay. How's how's the

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gas boys, gas? I'm tape. I'm in the tapering now, so

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I only got like four days of
gas left, so it's okay. A

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withered husk. At the end of
the week, I had real gas,

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like actual like shoot gas. Yeah, like you know gas stro gas.

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Yeah, Like, I don't week. It was weird for me. I

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don't know what was going on.
I had, like I couldn't tell if

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it was like Tommy troubles or what
was happening. If anyone I would believe

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it from Jeff Backler, that's it. So it was this. He's just

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been holding him for like fifty years. Yeah, no, no, no,

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No, I'm I'm uptied him,
not that uptight. I think I've

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I've look, guys, I've farted. Okay, he's a man. No,

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Like something happened and like I was, like I was, I was

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uncomfortable for like twenty four hours and
then I was fine, and I'm just

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like, well, is this just
like old man problems? Like what like

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what are what are we doing?
Right? Yeah? You know, isn't

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to check the colon? No?
Not? I think forty five? Forty

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five now? Yeah? Yeah,
like no, like I'm not in any

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discomfort. It was, it was. It was short lived. I couldn't

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off. I was just like over
deserved of myself skating. Who knows what

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happens. It's like movement based.
Yeah. Can I ask a very serious

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question please. This has been bugging
me for a while and I thought I

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could use this platform. Okay.
I think ice cream sandwiches should only have

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like the chocolate biscuit. They should
not have anything else as the way the

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sandwich apparatus. Wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait it's a weird thing.

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It's a weird hill eye on Joe
ice cream. No, no,

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no, no, you should of
course have the ice cream inside. I'm

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just talking about the holding apparatus.
So you're saying the only form factory should

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be like the brown rectangle. Yeah, no chip witch, no gimmicks,

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like no, it's it like no
cookies on each side. But like the

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biscuit is basically a cookie. Yeah, but I'm talking about that soft spongy

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one and like, hey, it's
it. I'll wrap it because it's from

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the Bay Area. It's very good, but it gets messy because like as

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you're biting down in the cookie,
it's pushing ice cream out. That's why

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I ate mine with a knife and
form. Yeah, I would microwave it

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for like five or two seconds,
throw it in a bowl and just take

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a spoon and and then just go
to town on it. Microwaving is Oh,

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that's interesting, Like you know,
the the like little pints of ice

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cream, like the halotop gimmick things. Just let's get in there quicker.

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Yeah, okay, I'm in the
molecules. Yeah exactly exactly, because I

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had one it was like two little
waffle discs and I'm like, what are

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we doing here, guys? And
I just like spilling out and everything.

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Was that at a restaurant or at
a place, a food truck something like

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that. No, it was just
like a boxed one from it, like

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from the store. Okay, yeah, the waffle thing seems like not the

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best form factor Choco Chaco, though, that's a different situation, I accept,

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right, Yeah, so I've started
to cut everyone off. I have

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a more important thing to say.
I think, like, I got ridiculed

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about my ice cream decision the other
day, and I need validation. Sure,

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I can't promise anything, but yeah, I have a fraught relationship with

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ice cream. But you go ahead. Maybe this is the source of my

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gas. But I had an ice
cream outing on Friday night and I chose

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to get chocolate chip cookie dough.
And as I was ordering, I told

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the person behind the counter, I
would like Reese's pieces, but at the

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bottom of the cup. Oh interesting, Okay, I want them at the

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bottom of the cup because exactly,
I like a little surprise at the thank

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you exactly. And I was met
with a grimace from the person behind the

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counter in a way that i've I
almost canceled the order. I almost took

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my business elsewhere. I could not
believe the ridicule. And she goes,

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she goes, do you not want
it on top? I said, did

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I stutter? I know, I
told you what I desire, and please

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it for me in a cup.
Correct in a cup, as much as

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I want to give you a ship. That is a perfectly reasonable thing.

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You know, Like people have way
weirder and way more pain in the ass

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pair of things. Like I worked
at McDonald's and they would just be like,

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oh I would, but the first
third as normal coke and then the

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second third is diet coke and then
the top. It's like what everybody,

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Okay, I'm on the cop this
is my job. I'm doing it.

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But like there's that weird stuff.
Putting it on the bottom is not a

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hassle for ice cream because it isn't
the whole idea. Like again, I

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don't get ice cream that often,
but like every order is a custom order

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because everyone wants different things. So
it's like McDonald's where it's like, uh

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yeah, and we make it one
way. I guess we'll hold the pickles

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for you. That's fine, we
can do that. But like, yes,

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ice cream, it's like, no, what do you want on your

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ice cream? So it's like the
that's the whole process. What did we

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learn from chef reactions. We learn, but we did learn that we were

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talking about a service industry, right, Like this is the deal that my

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order was not crazy, I'll defend
it. I'll defend it. And plus

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you have a good reason to do
that, because like I go to McDonald's

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these days, and these goddamn kids
that work there now, they don't understank.

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I worked at McDonald's. I've made
thousands of mcflury's. You need.

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It's the exact same spoon gimmick that
I was there when I worked there in

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the nineties, and you got to
make it go all the way down and

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up a bunch to make sure those
oreos and all that shit is going all

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around. Now, I eat one
and the first like ten percent has some

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oreos in it, and then it's
just vanilla. So officer of the rest

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of the cup, these kids need
to get it all the way to the

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bottom of the gimmick. Yes,
respect ice cream. Yeah, yes,

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there was a huge line time was
of the essence. Okay, So there's

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feel like a criminal. Okay,
So that you got to keep some things

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in mind here because it always be
clothing does point out if it's set up

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like a subway and so like,
where were the Reese's pieces in relation to

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like where they were starting to make
it? Was it within breaching distance?

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They sat in between the conversation I
was having with the with the Okay,

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all right, if you're within arms
room, Nio, you're in the You're

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completely in the right here, I
pointed, I said, can I have

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Reese's pieces at the bottom of the
cup? Right? That's what I was

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met with, huffing and puffing.
I think that's why I have grown to

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enjoy the Cold Stones because they just
treat ice cream like Benny Hannah's. Yeah,

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you mix everything. They got confusing
sizes, Yeah, fair enough.

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I would like to have this.
Please put this in my mouth. Like

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it's got like all sorts of weird
like it's I don't know what size that

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is. It's like do in difficulty
levels? Yeah, yeah, I don't

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any or whatever. Yeah. I
think I've only been to Cold Stone maybe

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once, and I don't recall the
sizes being a point of contention. What's

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the story mode the game? Plus
there's sentences. Oh, they're like fall

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off, like you know, confusing
Starbucks is it's like that times twenty Oh

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jesus, uh, this is my
request, because I'm quickly learning that you

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if you ask the giant bomb audience
of anything, some of them will will

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deliver if you manage the Cold Stones
in Los Angeles. Let us back there,

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Let us back there and let us
make something place. Yeah, I

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think there. I don't remember their
ice cream being exceptional in any No,

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no, no, no, it's
it's completely okay, it's serviceable. But

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I just want to see Dan Grubb
and Minatti. It just slapping the ice

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cream ice cream. Yeah, oh
my god. It's a place and spend

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the pizza. I thought it was
fun and curtains and stuff. I've done

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that. Yeah, I used to
work at pizza places a little bit.

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That's good time, kay I.
It stings because when I was young,

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I had like sensitive teeth and I
didn't like cold, so I didn't like

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ice cream all that much. And
now that I'm like, that phase is

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mostly ended for me, where I'm
like, no, cold stuff's fine,

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and now it's like, uh,
the dairy is a problem, and so

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it's like if I eat ice cream, now it's a problem on the other

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side. And so like my whole
life, I've kind of just been dodging

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ice cream mostly and I'm like kind
of disappointed. Now, I'm like,

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ah, man, that seems like
a nice tree ice cream, Like,

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yeah, yeah, I just wish
there was a time in my life where

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I could have appreciated it. I
just don't think it's gonna it's in the

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cards for me, So that's sad. The thing is, you travel.

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We're going to be on a work
trip with two of the most lactose intolerant

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people. I know that's true,
and they're constantly carrying lactaid, So just

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just hit them up. Yeah,
okay, Lucy and Tam they got the

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plug. Okay, have it after
we have a really spicy shitty burrito at

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two in the morning outside of our
hotel. Oh my god, can you

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imagine if that place also sold ice
cream? Oh damn, what the hell

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would that be? I don't know, there's some soup. You're not ready

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to play that game, but I
can playing these games. Let's start on

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what I'm going to assume is going
to be a lighter discussion Little Kiddy,

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Big City Jeff Grubb, Yeah,
you were right, Jane. I mentioned

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this elsewhere, but very rarely when
someone says I think the kids would like

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this, I always like welcome that, because it's like, I'll give it

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a shot, but I rarely do
I actually believe that that's actually going to

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work out. You were one,
right, The kids have gone why for

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this game. They are playing it
NonStop. Emmy's not someone who would spend

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a ton of time with a game
that isn't Mario right now, because she's

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back on way, way way back
in the Mario bandwagon. And even then,

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she's like, I'll just kind of
like poke around. This is a

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game. It's perfect for that.
It's like, just if you want to

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just mess around and poke at the
world and go in the store and knock

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stuff down, you could do that. And as she's been doing that,

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she's slowly been acquiring the skill to
actually play like this cute little open world

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game, yeah, where like I'll
go over it's like, oh, you

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got a new hat and you found
oh you found one of the like the

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ducks that you have to take back
to the to the Mama duck or whatever.

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And it's like I just wasn't expecting
her to have the patience for it,

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and it just completely fits with the
way I think a little kid wants

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to play games where it's mostly a
sandbox mostly a playground, very low stakes,

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no real enemies. A couple of
things get in your way, but

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that's fine. It's not like the
end of the world. There's still plenty

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of other things to do. And
in the meantime she is like figuring out

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how to play it, and it's
been really cool to see, and so

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I've been occasionally helping them, and
I'm enjoying it too. It seems like

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a really cute game. I think
it's untitled Goose game is definitely the primary

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like point of comparison, right,
and it feels a little bit less refined

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than untitled Goose Game. But it's
also more open and more and even more

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playful than that game in a lot
of ways, where it's like you can

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just kind of explore it on your
own terms, and so I kind of

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appreciate that. Is there anything like
stray tonally was so different and it was,

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you know, saying something and it
was like a dark, you know,

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dystopian thing. But just in terms
of locomotion, is it anything like

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that in terms of like the way
that game nos, Yeah, this is

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like the way you would imagine an
animal moving around a city, the way

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you would want them to move this. That's how they move in this game.

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It's like the jump is like you
hold down B and you like place

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your pause before you jump, and
then you let go and it does that

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jump. And that's like not exactly
quite as active as I would imagine,

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but that's very handy because it enables
you to make all these jumps from like,

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oh, you're on an air conditioner
on the side of a building and

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you want to jump to the next
air conditioner. You can actually place the

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jump, you know, pixel perfect, So I really actually end up liking

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that. And just the way the
cat moves around. You can hold down

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the right bumper button to give them
the zoomies, which is the sprint button.

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It's like cute stuff like that,
and it all feels really nice.

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It's, you know, again not
quite as refined as some of the games

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in the genre, but all the
ways it's like maybe a little bit janky

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are never a problem, and sometimes
they're just kind of like, Oh,

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that's that's silly that that's happening.
I feel like we are in dire need

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of more exploration animal games that aren't
taking themselves too seriously. Yeah, So

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this is like a popular genre for
like the asset Flip games on mobile or

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something like that. You'll get like, you know, basically the GTA of

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Cat games and it's just the shittiest
city you've ever seen. And this like

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terribly animated cat moving around and like
the placeholder characters to go mess with or

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something like that. And it's like
if Goat Simulator was actually like fully bad

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is what those games are. So
to have one of these that actually have

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someone with an idea of how these
games should work, I'm along and make

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this has been really nice. Those
g t A Cat games instead of sandbox

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games, would you say they're litterbox
games? Yeah, okay, yeah,

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I see what we've done here.
But like I honestly thank you, thank

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you twelve podcast points for everyone listening
right now. I have been thinking about

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going and playing mister Mosquito. Yeah
sure, yeah, let's go. I

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got a copy right here. Yeah
I didn't Mosquito, let's go. Oh

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man, what do you want to
know? I have to now? I

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feel like that would be your Marvel
name. That could be a delight club

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for jan It's awesome. What have
you played it? I've only ever seen

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screenshots and oh analog there's a risk
reward, Like, man, I want

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to pill up this blood too,
but they're about to swap me. Man,

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it's just a thrill a minute.
It's great. You get remote control

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and fuck with the family. It's
great. Well that's what That's what I'm

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getting at is that I miss weird
animal games. And I know the untitled

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Goose game wasn't the first to do
that in a long time, and grub

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there's probably a bunch of mobile games
and indie games, but like, what

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about we just explore being animals?
Uh? What if I just want to

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be a bear climbing a tree eating
some honey. I've never played Tokyo Jungles.

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Yeah, people, Now people in
chat are saying that, Okay,

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I'll do that. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, mister jansqudo Okay, that

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doesn't even asquito. Mister Mosquito shoa, that's closer. It still doesn't work.

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I did not expect to get a
big pop for mister Mosquito, and

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that anytime that I want to see
this, I've been thinking about, like

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digging into the PS two void of
just miscellaneous games. Adventures of Cookies and

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Cream go Off. Do you ever
play Katamari de MASSI of course. Oh

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yeah, yeah, very formative game. Yes, it was a good system.

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If you just want some weird hitting
gym stuff raw danger flip nick,

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yeah, get raw Dangers come to
a pointy point you do. Yeah,

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let me see what the what they
even call raw Danger on the Wikipedia.

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It's an action adventure survival game.
Okay, yeah, it's a sequel to

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Disaster Report. You know, Disaster
Report, right. Yes, It's like

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you're a waiter and you're working like
a thing and then it starts flooding,

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you know, and then's like,
who what are you gonna do about this?

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Okay, Broad Danger? Yeah,
maybe we should just like, uh,

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perhaps devise a wheel and a virtual
wheel with a bunch of PS two

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titles and just spin it. Yes, I like it, Yes, a

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virtual wheel, a shoot wheel?
Perhaps? Did you like to build this

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conversation a lab to get Dan excited
about more awake than I am right now?

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Look at this wheels weird PS two
games. He doesn't need roids ideas,

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there we go. That's that's why
in another life, uh, Dan

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would be like a prize fighter boxer, and then then I would be his

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like hype manner. I'm smelling Saltsan's
just a copy of mister Mosquito stitch,

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you knowing the Fight Night mini game. Between rounds, I'm tapping the back

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00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,440
of his head to tell him how
many fingers the ref is holding up one

405
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,920
in the middle. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, Jeff Grebb,

406
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,240
you've also been playing another game called
crypt Master. Yeah. I just started

407
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,799
this, and I this is the
one that we keep saying, Oh,

408
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,200
it's like Typing of the Dead,
and it's not quite. It is a

409
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,240
game you play with your keyboard by
typing him words. Uh, it's okay,

410
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:42,759
Yes, you play with your keyboard. Everyone's getting hold on here it

411
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:49,079
comes my pop. Not as as
mister Mosquito over here, but you're look

412
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,160
his head though, yeah, vascular
his hat pops up a centimeter. It

413
00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:03,480
just rises up on the steam because
tell me more about your keyboard game.

414
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,720
So it's a it's a dungeon crawler, you know. I'll just I'll do

415
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,440
the anecdote that I thought was was
interesting. So you go up to things

416
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,599
like chests and you need to figure
out what's in them. And there's a

417
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:17,799
Narration character who's like a necromancer who
goes along with you and he doesn't remember

418
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:19,119
ship, he can like describe what
he's looking at. You got to type

419
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,200
it in, and so it's like
actively typing in words to do stuff in

420
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,759
the world. And that means like, oh, so when I need to

421
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:30,519
attack something, I'm typing in hit. But I got to this one statue

422
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,680
that is like a save statue and
could replenish your life, but she only

423
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,640
works with the living, and all
my characters are dead during the Land of

424
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,039
the Dead. And so the guy
that I'm with is like, well,

425
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,000
what if we desecrate this thing?
That would work. I'm like okay.

426
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:45,680
So he's like, all right,
do something descrate. Of course, the

427
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680
first thing that comes to mind is
like pe or piss, but I'm like,

428
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,839
I don't want to be I'm just
well, okay, I thought I

429
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:53,799
bet it would work. But instead
of like you know what, I'm gonna

430
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,519
go with something a little bit sillier
and even more silly than that, and

431
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,880
I'm gonna type in fart and see
if that works. So I typed in

432
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,279
part and the game just lets out
the most enormous fart sound and I was

433
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:07,480
like, that's perfect. This thing
just fell apart. You did it.

434
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,000
You've totally desecrated this thing. You
should do that. We should destcrate more

435
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:11,440
things that way. I'm like,
oh, okay, so the game is

436
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,960
like predicting the way the player is
going to react to the things that sets

437
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,279
up and accounts for that. And
it was it's super cool. It's super

438
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,480
a little scribble nazi like, yes, definitely, don't say it that way.

439
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:30,200
Rephrase that, rephrase that, don't
don't. Oh yeah, a different

440
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,799
game. It's a different game,
sure, different difficult. Yeah, we're

441
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:38,680
wear different suits and uniforms. Yeah
I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

442
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:45,920
it's scribble not adjacent. Yah,
Like there we go. I don't

443
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,279
know. It's really cool. It's
got a cool style. I'm into it.

444
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,640
I'm gonna keep playing it, but
I just kind of feel like I'm

445
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,119
scratching the surface of this one.
That's cool. Games should have like a

446
00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,079
uh like a like a like a
type test, like a per minute that

447
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,039
besides your you know, difficult points
or something like that. Right, Oh

448
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,559
okay, that'd be cool. Yeah. Nothing aims me up than taking like

449
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,279
an aptitude test before starting a game. Well it's not. It's all in

450
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,920
good fun. I mean, you
go to monkey type dot com and you

451
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,720
have yourself a little contest with yourself
and well, was it Halo that that

452
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:22,960
did the thing of like you know, they told you to look up and

453
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,799
then depending on how you move the
stick. I always like that yeating.

454
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,240
It's like, yeah, that's very
smart. Yeah good, I think I'm

455
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,839
infamous did that too, Yeah,
yeah, there was a handful of games

456
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:37,799
that tried that, Moving from the
Dead to the Dread Dan Reikert Red Delusion.

457
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,400
Yeah, this is one that didn't
normally seem like it would be up

458
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,759
my alley, but bunks from playing
a lot. She's a big, big,

459
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,599
longtime Morowin fan, and it's very
very much based on that, and

460
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,240
like I didn't hop onto Elder Scrolls
until Oblivion, Skyrim all that stuff,

461
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,359
so I thought it'd be interesting to
try out because she was really high on

462
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,160
it. And man, it's got
a hell of a look. Hell of

463
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,440
it, Like the audio design incredible. I was really into what I played

464
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,279
early on, but unfortunately I did
run into a bunch of bugs and stuff

465
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:11,319
both on my PC and on the
steam deck where the steam deck is where

466
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:12,480
I had the problems. This is
why I haven't been playing this one.

467
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,240
What was your What was your problem? So it is I tried to make

468
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,799
the look the look stick feel good, and it doesn't. It doesn't ever

469
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,759
feel good. So what happens is
if you're moving the character, uh,

470
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,880
and then you try to like look
right, left, up, down,

471
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,440
it'll have it'll be very sluggish.
And I turned up the sensitivity a ton,

472
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,200
and that would like, yeah,
if I'm standing still, it makes

473
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,920
it more sensitive and that to make
it feel better. But then when I'm

474
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,039
move in again, it's that sluggishness
comes back in and it made me feel

475
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:42,000
crazy, and I posted this on
Twitter. A developer said this is a

476
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,920
CPU issue, specifically that it would
definitely affect the Steam deck and they're going

477
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,680
to try to have a fix for
it. So I'm like, okay,

478
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200
great, I'm gonna put this to
the side and I'll come back once that

479
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,480
works. Yeah. Mine, mine
was totally different, and it was like,

480
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,759
you know, to select items and
weapons and things like that, you're

481
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,559
supposed to use the deepad and I
got all these items and potions and throwing

482
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:04,279
knives and stuff like that, and
deep Pad wouldn't select them. So like,

483
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,480
the only way I could throw up
throwing knife was like to go to

484
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:07,920
the menu and select it and then
it would just throw it from the menu.

485
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:10,279
And it's like and I showed Bong, She's like, yeah, that's

486
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:14,880
that's not right. So yeah,
so I'm just gonna wait. It's it's

487
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,599
something I want to go back to. And and Bonc has had a pretty

488
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,440
you know, smooth experience with it
and it's loving it, so like I

489
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480
know there's something good there. But
yeah, I'm just a little of style,

490
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:27,480
like that first character you come up
against where he's like in that pain

491
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,119
prison and he loves it, is
like, yeah, I'm doing the iron

492
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,519
on your thing. Yeah, should
be as lucky and it's just leaking like

493
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:37,519
a jpeg of blood and it's like, yeah, that's that's cool. That's

494
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Yeah, it's got a really cool
vibe to it, like red skies,

495
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,839
mushrooms everywhere. It's just a just
look up like a screenshot of it.

496
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,519
It's got a great, great vibe
to it. But yeah, I'm gonna

497
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:50,119
hold off until some things get ironed
out. And when I google like bugs,

498
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400
you know, dread delusion, there
are a lot and there are a

499
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,559
lot of different ones, so I
think, and it's been an early access

500
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:59,000
for a long time, so like
hoping they get this stuff fixed. Yep,

501
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:00,599
I really want to play it,
but I'm in the same boat.

502
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:02,119
I'm not going to play until I
know at least the things that are plaguing

503
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,319
me are working. Ye speaking about
vibes, guys, I've gone all the

504
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:12,079
way in into this, the vibes
of this game. I started playing in

505
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:19,200
black and white because that Ghost of
Sushima it was hit the PC. Uh

506
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,039
was it UPF for Thursday? It
was UPF right. We did the cod

507
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,759
ups, Yes, yes, that's
fine. We did Legends Mode and Ghost

508
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:30,599
of Sushima and that was very,
very fun. I don't think I gave

509
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:36,599
Ghost of Sushima an honest chance when
it came out for whatever reason. I

510
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,119
think maybe it was busy at the
time that it came out in a very

511
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,480
busy year where there was like Final
another Final Fantasy game and other titles that

512
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,680
I just missed it. And boy, howdy do I regret that? Because

513
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,240
this game is pretty as heck.
Oh yeah, it looks real nice.

514
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,240
It runs awesome on PC. Yes, runs so well. The Steam deck

515
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,359
work very well in the Steam deck
as well. Yeah, from planet I'm

516
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,519
just said, I said to forty
five frames per second, so it doubles

517
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,480
up to the ninety. Looks great, And I did the thing where I

518
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:15,280
put in Japanese so in English subtitles, so I'm sent me forced to pay

519
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,280
attention to what's happening in the story, and I'm really enjoying my time.

520
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,880
The combat is different than what I
was expecting it to be, because I

521
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,320
was kind of expecting either more of
a dark Soul's approach or more hacky,

522
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,760
slashy type of type of delio.
But this one, your Samurai strikes a

523
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,079
balance at feeling a little floaty but
also like heavy, and I kind of

524
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:44,000
enjoy that you don't quite have to
worry about like a staminameter super hard like

525
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000
you would in Securo. But I
do miss the fluidity of a game like

526
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:51,320
secu Row. But here I feel
like I'm nailing the Perrys and like the

527
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,320
Dodges. A lot Arkhamish combat,
right yea c area. Yeah, I

528
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,599
don't remember Infamous combat that well,
but like that was a lot more kind

529
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,400
of project, like you're not right
up, like there is some melee stuff,

530
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,039
but you can kind of hang back
and shoot shit, you know,

531
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,880
Okay, okay, but yeah,
it does feel very Arkham adjacent. And

532
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,119
then I'm just having a as opposed
to final Fantasy seven Rebirth, where I

533
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:15,320
avoided all of the side stuff just
try and mainline the story. I'm doing

534
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,320
nothing but the side stuff in Ghost
of Tsushima just because I enjoy being in

535
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,000
that world and I feel like they're
doing a really good job at like riding

536
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:30,480
the line between heavy cinematic approach to
a lot of the presentation and having it

537
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:37,400
also be a fun game to play. It is making me very excited for

538
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:42,960
the new Assassin's Creed game and hoping
that they can nail that, because you

539
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:50,000
can approach some portions of this game
stealthily, but it isn't as fun to

540
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,199
get through it as it is to
just like speed through a village and just

541
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,639
like hot parry a bunch of dudes
and then just make your way through.

542
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:01,280
I do want to play more of
that Legends mode though, do too?

543
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:05,199
Yeah? Me too? Between the
Yeah, the Eldon Ring co op stuff

544
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,039
and Ghosts last week, it was
like, oh man, there's some good

545
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,360
four player stuff we were doing,
and I wanted to do more of both.

546
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,360
Yeah. Yeah, So I've been
playing it as well. I'm just

547
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,840
gonna ask you, like so that
when you get into a mission, I'm

548
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,920
like, okay, yeah, I
kind of like this, but it also

549
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000
does the thing where it's like we're
going to have the title card played before

550
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,519
this mission and then I'm like,
okay, cool, and it's good.

551
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,039
Is it going to be like super
in depth. It's like, no,

552
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,000
that's gonna be kind of what you've
been doing. You're going to go and

553
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:30,800
fight some guys, pick something up, and then we're going to send you

554
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,559
to the next thing on this quest
line. And I'm not really complaining,

555
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,880
but it's like, I do feel
like sometimes it like really takes the presentation

556
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,639
very seriously, and I wonder if
that's going to get grading on me after

557
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:43,480
a certain period of time. So
far, I'm like, eh, I

558
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:45,880
keep picking it up, and every
time I get like the steam deck out

559
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,440
and I turn it on, it's
like, oh, yeah, I'm playing

560
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,320
Ghost of Sushima. I'm maintaining a
lot of that momentum in a way that

561
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,239
I didn't when I was playing it
on the PS four originally, And I'm

562
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,880
really enjoying it. Are you do
you do any concern that, like the

563
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,239
variety of what you're doing in the
world will be lack now that you mention

564
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:06,880
it that part. I enjoy it, but it also does kind of break

565
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
up the pace in a negative way
where it does take me out of it.

566
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:15,880
And then I can imagine if say
you were trying to undred percent this

567
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,599
game and you were just constantly being
pulled out to the title cards and like,

568
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,559
hey, this is what you gotta
do. At least it's done very

569
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,159
well. It's not like half assed
in any way. I can see that

570
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,960
getting very annoying after a while.
That being said, for as much as

571
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,840
I'm enjoying the game just because of
the scope in how big it is,

572
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,800
I don't think I'm gonna get close
to finishing it at all. I'm just

573
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,000
enjoying the time that I'm in it
now. And perhaps if we check out

574
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,599
more of the Legends mode, I
think that we had figured out how to

575
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:51,760
ping things on consoles a long time
ago. Ye, My one gripe with

576
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,840
the Legends mode. Besides it being
a tad difficult and a little bit grindy

577
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,000
to begin with if you're trying to
jump in with woar folks, is the

578
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:06,320
pinging systems just odd. Having to
hold down a trigger and the yeah,

579
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,559
and even like the emoting and stuff
I had to ask every time. It's

580
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,920
like hold L two and then do
this. It just seemed clunky. Yeah,

581
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,880
very minor gripes, but like,
I do enjoy the combat after getting

582
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:22,119
adjusted to it, and I just
hate archers. Yeah you're annoying in the

583
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,159
single player game too. Yeah.
Yeah, I always run for them first

584
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,800
and take them out. And the
first thing I upgraded for my character was

585
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,920
the standoffs. So now if I
do a standoff, I can kill the

586
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,400
first guy and then two follow ups
as well. So every battle I'm starting

587
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,880
off, I'm taking out three people
immediately, and that's cool. But then

588
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,000
the next thing I'm looking at now
is Okay, I need to be able

589
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,679
to block arrows from a distance.
That's what I need right now. And

590
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
we got that upgrade in Legends and
that was great, Like, Okay,

591
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,639
well this is a separate character,
so I'll do that here. How do

592
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:53,000
you feel about like the way the
game is presenting the stealth stuff? It

593
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:58,840
is like, this is something your
character finds dishonorable and distasteful and has to

594
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,079
do it, and I'm like,
I it makes me kind of not want

595
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:04,280
to do it, even though I
love stealth stuff, and why like why

596
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,480
do I care? But it's like
I don't know the way they're framing it

597
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,679
makes me a little bit less willing
to engage with it. It almost feels

598
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,320
like a designed cop out of like, Hey, we know that this isn't

599
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,559
as fleshed out, so we're just
going to tell you it's bad to do

600
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,360
it, don't do it. Yeah, and I've done some of the stuff.

601
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,960
Suff're right, there's not like too
much to it, at least at

602
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,559
the beginning. Yeah, I don't
know. Maybe maybe they build on it.

603
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,559
It feels odd that they're framing it
like that and like, are you

604
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,320
encouraging me to do stealth or not? But it does just wet my appetite

605
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,159
for like the possibilities of more stealth
focused Assassin's Creed in the Future totally was

606
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:47,079
tensh you ever good? Ah?
I liked I think the first ten shoe

607
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,440
the things you could do, like
it sounded fun in like a magazine.

608
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,559
It was like, oh, you're
sneaking across rooftops and stealth games. Oh

609
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,840
yeah, no, oh Dan,
Dan, Okay, yeah, sorry,

610
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:06,079
yes, I sucked at I like
you a lot on a PlayStation wall or

611
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,840
a PlayStation rice off a roof and
hoping a guy sees it and waiting for

612
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,119
twenty minutes. Yeah that's great,
damn, but that's just like throwing sand

613
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:19,039
at someone. That's fun fi dust. Yeah, that's the good time,

614
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,440
right there. Yeah, I think
I'm looking for I'm looking for a stealth

615
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,519
game, but I don't want,
uh, Tom Clancy, I don't want

616
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,199
what's face? You played metal Gear
Solid? Yes? Yes? Okay,

617
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,800
okay? I mean, god,
the what are the what's the mount rushmore

618
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,880
stealth games? Uh? It's metal
Gear, It's splinter Cell, It's it's

619
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,079
Sly Cooper. Is it hit Man
and hit Man? Oh? Oh yeah,

620
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,480
up hit Man because I wanted the
hijinks. Oh game, Well,

621
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,599
go back to hit Man. That's
always the answer. I think the thing

622
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,840
missing and hit Man for me is
just like the ease of mobility, Like

623
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,199
I just want to be able to
climb ship and just like hot perch and

624
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:05,400
hide. Sure, remember the Sabageur. I don't remember that? All right,

625
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,599
I'll look it up, because no, I'm gonna sound like a crazy

626
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:09,239
person on a podcast. I can't
afford that. I've been thinking of the

627
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Sabotury lately and being like, I
feel like people didn't really talk about it

628
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,639
when it came out, but it
seems kind of interesting. Who made it?

629
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:17,679
Was a study that shut down?
Is it the Mercenary studio? They

630
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:22,679
had like a gas mask as a
logo. What the was that? It

631
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,440
was a pandemic that the pandemic from
Yes, yeah, yeah. The Sabatour

632
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,840
offers free DLC of boobs on day
one. On the first day the sabatur

633
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,679
is available, Electronic Arts will offer
downloadable content which removes the nipple covering pasties

634
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,440
from the performers at the nightclub in
the game. Wow, do you know

635
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,360
what this was? But it's a
code that comes on a piece of paper

636
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480
in the fiscal copy of the game. So when you use it, you

637
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,920
get the nipples. So if you
sell this game used the person would bind

638
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,239
the used copy would not get it, and if they want to see the

639
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,800
nipples, they would have to pay
an extra ten dollars. Oh, so

640
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,280
it's a pass. So it's like
during the online pass This was a dark

641
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,320
days, like yes on my passes
and stuff like that. What happened to

642
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:13,000
games cult? What happened? We
used to have Rumble Roses, Shade,

643
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:20,119
pop Lolly saw whatever. The DLC
pass is one of the greatest accomplishments pop

644
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,840
chain saw. There we go James
Guns, Lollipop chainsaw. Uh gre you

645
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,639
mentioned a second ago about you changed
it to like the frames for a second

646
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,079
on like the limit on steam deck. That's something I've been thinking about lately

647
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:37,119
because I wasn't really aware of how
useful that was, because you know,

648
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,360
the steaming deck with battery and stuff
like that, and a lot of times

649
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,039
I'm playing Animal wel or an indie
game. We're like right now, the

650
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:46,000
main thing I'm playing on there is
wind Waker HD. So it's like with

651
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,800
emulation, emulation if you sometimes with
some emulators if you turn down the frame

652
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,079
rate will mess up the music or
mess up the game a little bit,

653
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,360
but any modern game should be just
fine with it for the most part.

654
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:58,920
Okay, So, like what is
the process? You basically just like load

655
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,079
a game up and then you just
bring the sliders down, like yeah,

656
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,519
that's right on fine or it's not. Uh yes, so I would Yeah,

657
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:06,920
you just hit that button that brings
up that side menu you go over

658
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,679
to, like it it's like the
better battery icon or perform it's like TDP,

659
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,079
it's frame rates. Yeah, the
first thing you would want to do

660
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:16,519
is turn down the frame rate limit. That would that's the one that's going

661
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,840
to be the safest for you to
mess around with. And if you do

662
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,440
that, if you set that to
thirty, it will just render thirty frames

663
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,280
per second, and then it'll triple
it to ninety, so it'll still look

664
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,280
pretty good. On the steam deck. Forty five is what I go for

665
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,199
most of the time though, because
it looks fantastic. There's a tripler,

666
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,039
but like toggle, so like I
go to, it'll just do it for

667
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,559
you. On math, what you're
going to look for is on this on

668
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,159
the limitter, it'll say thirty frames
per second, and then in parentheses it's

669
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:43,039
going to say, and here's how
fast the screen is refreshing, and it's

670
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,360
it's refreshing. It ninety hurts basically, and that's what you want. You

671
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,280
want to do thirty or forty five. If you need to mess around with

672
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,599
it beyond that, feel free you
can. But those are the ones that

673
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,519
will divide evenly into ninety. Uh. Then if you really are worried about

674
00:43:54,519 --> 00:44:00,639
battery, you can then go into
TDP and like set the maximum total draw

675
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,880
power to be like, oh yeah, fifteen watts is good enough for this

676
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,599
game, and it will never use
more than fifteen watts and will be good.

677
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,760
But that's that's a process where you're
gonna want to go online and google

678
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,800
and see what you say. So
I don't even know, like I don't

679
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,079
have a sense of like what six
watts is versus fifteen you know, yeah,

680
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:16,440
yeah, yeah, I mean if
you're playing, like honestly animal,

681
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,880
well, I didn't do this.
I probably should have said it to like

682
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,119
six watts. It probably would have
been just fine. But you want to

683
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:25,039
like have the lowest number possible if
you're trying to save battery life. But

684
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:30,000
this is like if you're really trying
to squeeze out an extra ten percent of

685
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,920
battery life because you're on scat trip, It's it's not worth thinking about too

686
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,960
much because a lot of this can
cause battery anxiety and that's not worth it.

687
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,400
Okay, okay, good to know. Also, wind Waker HG is

688
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:43,559
fucking awesome on there. It runs
great, I own it. I can't

689
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:45,880
wait for it to beat because then
that's when Nintendo will announce it. So

690
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,079
for the song, I've been thinking
about that because that's what I went fucking

691
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:50,239
Metroids. I played it on Dolphin
and then it's like, oh great,

692
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,760
then they put out remastered, so
ye yeah, yeah, but it's awesome

693
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,119
on there. Whin Waker turns out
still extremely good. Yep, I'm going

694
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:58,639
to play it on the Steam deck. I think it turns out. The

695
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,880
other thing that is still extremely good
is elden Ring. Yeah. Yeah,

696
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:07,159
I beat Millennia. Oh how was
that? I barely got hit. It

697
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:14,039
was great. Friends they're not friend
yeah, I don't know them, but

698
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,400
somebody else was there. Uh yeah, I tried, yeah, but uh

699
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,000
yeah, I streamed Millennia did the
fight first. I'm doing the Halleck Tree.

700
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:22,800
I'd never been there before because I
was too annoyed by the like invisible

701
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,360
assholes in that area where you have
to like light the lanterns and the frozen

702
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,000
doge or whatever. And I was
like, fuck it, I'm gonna actually

703
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,599
do this because I'm in an elden
Ring mood lately, and uh yeah,

704
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:36,159
that game is fucking awesome stuff that
rules. I was watching you play and

705
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:39,239
I was like, I should stop
playing Ghost of sushimn go play this instead

706
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:44,000
doing that. That's why I think
I'm not going to finish Ghosts of Sushima.

707
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:49,360
Also is because of elden Ring and
my my TikTok algorithm has just gotten

708
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,920
influenced by elder ring lore, and
I realized I don't remember Squat from that

709
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,880
game story wise. Yeah, and
then I fell into a deep lore hole.

710
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,440
If anyone video we doing that multiplayer
thing again this Friday, I can't

711
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,119
remember. Yes, yeah, that
rules saying that we're gonna take out Deliberate

712
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Godfree all right, hell yeah,
I'm excited. Like that is like where

713
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,519
I'm at with that game. I
am looking forward to it in every way.

714
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:17,400
Let's go play more multiplayer, give
me more Shadow of the Urg Tree

715
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,239
and if it's just picking it up
playing it on the steam deck, the

716
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,280
base Vanilla game. At this point, I am happy, like that game

717
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,599
rules. So there was perched,
like get to a new area that I

718
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,400
hadn't seen before, and like I
beat this game twice. I played like,

719
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,960
yeah, two hundred hours of this
game, and I'm walking into places

720
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,519
now it's been out for a couple
of years. I'm looking around like this

721
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,079
is, how does this look so
fucking good? How was this game in

722
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:42,639
every way? And there's so many
different builds you can do, there's so

723
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:45,800
many giant optional areas and bosses and
everything. Just fucking works and is great,

724
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,039
and it is that the bar is
so fucking high after that game.

725
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:55,679
Yeah, I As I was looking
up guides to build a better version of

726
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,239
my original character, I was called
choice paralysis because it's like, ooh,

727
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,119
this is this looks cool. I
could have like a twelve foot Katana and

728
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,840
then you look over and it's like
this one shoots blood and this one has

729
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:15,599
the power of the moon. And
as I was scrolling through videos, I

730
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:20,400
came across a random lore one and
I had never seen this village that this

731
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,639
person talked about, so I just
found where it was on the map and

732
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:27,760
then I explored it. So you're
right, Dan, I have no idea

733
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,360
how this game got made. I
mean, it really is just it really

734
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,440
just come down to the best artist
in the world worked on it. They

735
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,880
really are that talented. Yeah,
and I'm very, very excited and terrified

736
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,599
for a Shadow of the Ur Tree. I was kind of dreading it because

737
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,440
it was like, oh, I
don't need to go back to Olden Ring,

738
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,480
And it turns out all it turns
out we all need to go.

739
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:50,679
We shouldn't have left. Baron asked
me my most anticipated game, this is

740
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,719
it? I didn't say this I
should have said Shadowed the ur Tree.

741
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:58,320
That's my most anticipated wow ty praise. That's where I'm at with that it's

742
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,239
eligible for Game of the Year.
Yeah, sure, sure, Okay,

743
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,960
there's there's no rules. Yeah,
there's no rules. Really we could design,

744
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,280
but yes, that would be eligible. What if they had a cart

745
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480
racing mode to it? Okay,
then it's definitely eligible, and then it's

746
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:14,679
overqualified. Okay. You know it's
also in Armored Course six. I want

747
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:15,840
to go back to that and play
that. Yeah, game so good?

748
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,800
Yeah it turns out yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't know. It's

749
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,119
just I've been seeing that pop up
more and more on my feed. I

750
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:28,280
think it must have gone on sale
on Steam or something, and I think

751
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,440
more people are playing it because it's
it's popping up more frequently. I'm just

752
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,280
like, God, what a good
game. Speaking about good games, guys,

753
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:39,039
last game I have here on the
rundown. I can't say that this

754
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,079
is this is how I feel about
the game. But last game we're talking

755
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:51,239
about today before we go to break
Samuela Saga Hell Blade two. I don't

756
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,920
like this game. I don't like
this game. You've been playing it?

757
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,519
Jan, Yes, Okay, all
right, good, all right, because

758
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:59,000
I was like, we can't just
have damp but talk about it. I'm

759
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:02,360
not going to. You know,
it is the most anti me game possible.

760
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,280
And I see that some people are
liking you, and that's great,

761
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:08,960
but like immediately when it starts and
the first thing is my character is hurt

762
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,239
and I'm holding up on the analogsticked, and that kind of goes for like

763
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,960
thirty minutes, like you know,
all the things I hate about Red Dead

764
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Redemption too. How it's like,
you know, everything's methodical and laborious,

765
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,400
and story seems to take precedents over
everything. This makes Red Dead two look

766
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,760
like Mario Ottisy. It's shit.
I need to play this. I haven't.

767
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:34,599
I just need to get the code
unlock it. I'm you know,

768
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:38,400
I'm not a story guy. I
don't care about story or whatever. But

769
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,039
you are. Okay, So yeah, Jared, tell me, tell me

770
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:46,440
how you're feeling about it, Jane, Okay. I think everything that I'm

771
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,920
not enjoying about the game is purely
about gameplay. Yeah, I think,

772
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:59,199
I think. But also, you
ever, you ever have like like a

773
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,679
critical blockbuster movie that people tell you
like, oh you got to see this.

774
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:05,599
This is kid, this is like, sure, if you're gonna blow

775
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:08,719
your mind, it's gonna change your
mind. I kind of felt that with

776
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:13,000
help Send You a Saga, hel
Blade one. I didn't check out hew

777
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:15,440
Blade one, but I was seeing
a lot of hype with hell Blade two,

778
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,239
and then I'm playing it, and
then the whole time, I feel

779
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,679
like I'm politely nodding my head and
like gritting my teeth of like, yeah,

780
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,800
this is cool. Did you do
the story recap at the beginning when

781
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,719
it's like I fell asleep? Damn? Okay, okay, yes, because

782
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,320
I fell asleep. I just liked
the first game also, and I was

783
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,880
like, I didn't play the whole
thing, all right, if I'm gonna

784
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,159
give this one a shot, let's
see the story recap. And I hit

785
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:38,679
that, and I swear to god, it felt like fifteen minutes of looking

786
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,039
at rock, like literal rocks.
It's like slow pans of rocks. Right,

787
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:44,880
I'm not making us up. No, no, no, no,

788
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,920
sleep. It was just nature b
roll. Yeah, what are you talking

789
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,719
about? That's crazy. No,
It's like a rock with like an etching

790
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,280
of like a lady with a sword
on it and some guys like and then

791
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,559
she was mad at her dad,
and you know, it's like, okay,

792
00:50:55,559 --> 00:51:01,239
great, it's it's wild how all
over the mass I know the response

793
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,800
is to this game. I was
shocked because I think that's good. Yeah,

794
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,800
it's interesting, it is, But
like I was shocked today when I

795
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,400
saw the Metacritic because like, I've
talked to numerous people that I knew were

796
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,559
playing at pre release, and one
hundred percent of the people I talked to

797
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:16,280
were like, I cannot imagine playing
any more of this game. This is

798
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,199
laborious as hell. You guys have
been having those conversations. I was here,

799
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:21,639
and now I'm like, oh man, it's gonna be another one of

800
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:25,199
those weeks. And then yeah,
I guess I've heard since then a couple

801
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,239
people are like, no, no, I'm I'm into what this is doing.

802
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,679
I'm okay, so maybe we'll be
more mixed. I wasn't expecting it

803
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,920
to be able to even get into
the eighties on Metacritic now, which is

804
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,599
where it's at, right, So
it is it's like eighty one. Yeah,

805
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,000
so okay. I think a big
part of that is it does look

806
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:44,119
as technologically impressive as they promised,
Right, That's at least something I mean

807
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,159
it. Yes, I mean there's
like frame rate stuff and it definitely does

808
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:51,239
to like Order eighteen eighty six,
like letterboxing and everything it is like.

809
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,840
But I mean yes, the facial
capture and all that stuff, it looks

810
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,960
it's the fidelity is incredible for sure
in it. But the what you do,

811
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,440
like even beyond like the slow stark
dam where it's fortunately to have like

812
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,400
the the you know, I guess
are you like limping for a long time?

813
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,480
Is that we usually limping for Yeah, Dan is not exaggerating. I

814
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:08,880
remember it in Wolfenstein too, where
and he was in a wheelchair. It's

815
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,159
like, oh man, I wond
how they're gonna pay this, and then

816
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:13,320
they're like, just give you a
gun and it's an awesome shooter in a

817
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,199
wheelchair. Market should be like we're
doomed. Twenty sixteen was like let's go

818
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,760
gun, go kill right. Yeah, he wakes up it immediately's just like

819
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,719
I'm gonna start ripping staff part Now. This is a lot of limping forward

820
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,239
in the rain and grunting and hearing
the voices in her head and then there's

821
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:30,360
a rock and then it's like and
I thought like, oh did I trigger

822
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,920
a cut scene? And I've just
put the controller down because I just wanted

823
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,440
to be doing anything else. And
then she stopped moving. I was like,

824
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,199
oh no, it wants me to
play right right, it's a whole

825
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:43,000
holding it up. So that's like, that's definitely a turn off hearing about

826
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:47,400
that, Like I thought we were
not maybe beyond that, but certainly looking

827
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,800
at it, maybe you know,
in the room, get rid of like

828
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,800
press forward to play the video that's
on your screen. Yeah, yeah,

829
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,599
go ahead. And it feels very
like, I don't know, it feels

830
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:00,440
fair like the things that you know
so rightfully gets criticized for doing a lot

831
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,480
of that stuff, Like I feel
like a lot of Uncharted and Last of

832
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:06,679
Us and I didn't like, yeah, rag Rock, I didn't like,

833
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,000
you know, like this is just
like all again, all of those are

834
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,760
Mario otasy compared to this. Yeah. But the flip side for me is

835
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,800
like all those games you listed off, Dan, like all of those were

836
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:21,639
also fun to play regard right,
So so the gameplay I've heard the combats

837
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,960
disappointing at the very least, and
the puzzles are also kind of like they

838
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,599
just fizzle out, Like what's the
deal, what's the problem with these things.

839
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,960
The combat, it feels like the
it feels like you're just having duels

840
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,760
one after another of like one on
one fights with enemies and their rise.

841
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,760
No, because then like it feels
like there's more stakes there and it feels

842
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,000
like all those battles mean more here
are there versus how it is in hell

843
00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:52,840
BLA two Because it's like, all
right, I'm guess I'm fighting this nameless

844
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,800
dude. Now just got to parry
him a couple of times and then fight

845
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:00,800
until the cinematic ending of this word
you're per and stabs them in the throat,

846
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,119
and it just it just doesn't feel
good. It just feels very simple.

847
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,159
Is the other aspect of it is, because okay, cool, I

848
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:13,960
could parry this or block this or
dodge this, and sure you can get

849
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,360
staggered if you dodge, or you
can get hit when you dodge instead of

850
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,840
blocking. But it just doesn't feel
fun to go through these combat encounters.

851
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:27,840
And with the puzzles, I think
people's main complaint is that they're just some

852
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,679
of them at least are just like
the perspective locking style of like here's this

853
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,840
glyph, walk around the environment until
you match the environment to match this glyph

854
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:43,079
and then it it's very generous with
it where it does it super duper fast

855
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,639
of like, oh I think this
is it? Am I? Oh okay,

856
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,159
No, the game said it's it. I think that's what I was

857
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,239
surprised by, because like, that's
part of what I hated about the first

858
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,719
one was that, like I felt
like I was just slowly going to a

859
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,760
thing and then I was telling me
to like look at things until I unlocked

860
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,320
the next path to go to.
Now it's like, surely they're gonna add

861
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,639
like another element to this and just
going to be like yeah, slow combat.

862
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,679
Then I look at a thing and
then I move forward and it's like,

863
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,599
no, this is just that again. You know. Yeah, then

864
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,920
that sounds even more antiquated than it
would have when hell Blade one came out,

865
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,800
Like that sounds pretty old fashioned as
a solution for your very story driven,

866
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:22,920
narrative, interactive movie game that you're
making. Other people have found other

867
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,800
ways to do that that maybe are
more interesting than this, and so yeah,

868
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:31,000
that's disappointing. But like the game
visually looks very stunning, and you

869
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:35,079
know, I get bored with the
combat aspect of it. But some of

870
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:39,960
the combat is presented very well.
It has like amazing lighting, it just

871
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,800
does not feel amazing to play.
I mean, like, hey, I

872
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,199
do recommend if if you are if
you do want to play hell Blade two,

873
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,719
despite all the things that we've said, I do recommend playing it with

874
00:55:52,760 --> 00:56:00,400
headphones because they do the binaural bivial
audioinural goes all around your head. Yeah.

875
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,559
Yes, so you know with Senua, she'll have like voices in one

876
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,159
ear and then the other ear,
and then sometimes it's like mixed in the

877
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,199
middle and then you do a whole
mix with other voices like that. That

878
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,519
aspect incredibly well done. Yeah,
it's I when I was looking at the

879
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:19,320
reviews this morning, it was kind
of a moment of like, Okay,

880
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,800
yeah, if people come to video
games for different things, and that's not

881
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,119
necessarily like I'm glad people are liking
it, but it's like, you know,

882
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:29,239
for me, it has none of
the things that I come to video

883
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,000
games for. But apparently it's resonating
with some people, which hey, good,

884
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:37,199
good for them. But yeah,
yeah, it's like a grub go

885
00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:38,800
ahead. Oh. I was just
gonna say, like Jen, like someone

886
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,239
in Chad like a one thousand X
resists and stuff. Like that, Harold

887
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,000
howibout. But recently we've gotten a
handful of games that are less interested in

888
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,920
like just hitting you over the head
with constant gameplay and are trying to tell

889
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,039
a story, like I think I
think thirteen thirteen Sentinels is a game where

890
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:58,679
yea, the very story heavy.
The difference between those games and this for

891
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,760
you is that when you are playing
a game, you're bored here or is

892
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,800
it like oh, and also know, the storytelling just works better for whatever

893
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,800
reason, I think the method of
storytelling just works a little bit better for

894
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,840
me in those other games you mentioned, And like, I'm someone that also

895
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,960
enjoys like visual novel games, right, like I enjoyed Slay the Princess from

896
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:28,039
last year. But here it just
feels so heavy handed in a way that

897
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:35,320
it's off putting to me and my
taste specifically. And there's portions of it

898
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:38,760
that remind me of the more recent
tomb Raider game where it just feels like

899
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,199
gore porn. After a while of
like how much stuff can we throw this

900
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:47,000
person through? Yeah, and I
understand like part of that is like her

901
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:50,760
journey like overcoming all of that,
but after a while, it's just like

902
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:55,559
guys like I just I need a
breath in between all of this, and

903
00:57:55,679 --> 00:58:00,280
I feel like there are other games
out there that do handle like heavy story

904
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,760
elements, heavy subject matter in a
more approachable way that is more palatable for

905
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,360
me at least. This is just
like, okay, all right, we

906
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:15,639
get it. The faces look really
good and like the As someone that does

907
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:20,280
come to games for a lot of
story, I think for me personally,

908
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,599
I think I wind up enjoying games
that have a strong supporting cast to bounce

909
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:30,880
off of for those character and here
there isn't a lot of that, despite

910
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,199
like there being multiple voices and Sendu's
head and her contending with characters from the

911
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:37,760
previous game. Maybe I'd have a
different context if I play the original game

912
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:45,599
and saw like that build for her. Perhaps I don't know, got it

913
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:50,239
there was a game I was thinking
of that just kind of nailed the story

914
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:54,360
beats for me immediately, Oh,
this senuous saga Helblay two feels like anti

915
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:00,760
Asaura's wrath. Oh sure, sure, yeah, okay, like that is

916
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:07,199
just bombastic, like dumb not dumb
story, but like overblown story anime.

917
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,599
And then when you do something it's
gonna have a massive effect on what's happening

918
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:13,480
on the screen. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it feels like the little

919
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:19,480
bits that I'm playing in hell Blay
too don't really factor into everything as a

920
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:24,400
whole again totally, you know,
having played the first one, uh and

921
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,119
come up to now looking at this
from the outside, think you think what

922
00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:34,360
I'm extracting is like you kind of
have to like know what you're getting into

923
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,960
and be ready for that kind of
thing, right, Like you don't go

924
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,360
to a steak steak steakhouse and then
be like, I'll have a light chicken

925
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,920
salad, you know, like you
gotta like sit down and like buckle up

926
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,559
and be ready to expect what this
game is very deliberately gonna throw at you.

927
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,239
I don't you know. That's that's
my sort of what I'm of the

928
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,320
variability in those scores right where some
people are just looking for this right,

929
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,400
which interesting. I think for me, the way that Microsoft was positioning this

930
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:08,519
game and how kind of like important
and felt to their lineup made me assume

931
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:14,119
that this game would We did a
lot of assuming, I to I think

932
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:16,159
that that may have been the problem
here, where a lot of my assumptions

933
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:20,239
were like, Okay, this is
going to be like a bigger, wider

934
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,079
game, to appeal to more audiences, and like this game had a lot

935
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:27,679
of presence in like what the last
Summer Game Fest, the TGA isn't the

936
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:30,159
big music thing. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was during the

937
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,960
TGAs. That was that was during
the TGAs. Yeah that was. That

938
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:38,000
was nuts. Like that was that
was just nuts when you were high when

939
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,360
that happens, well, obviously I
don't go anywhere and not completely blitzed out

940
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,960
of my mind, but like I
remember, I was sitting next to Jake

941
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,920
Baldino there and we were just like
looking at each other, hugging each other,

942
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,000
being like what's happening right now?
And uh, you could feel the

943
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:53,719
flames. There were flames. You
could feel that. And I think it's

944
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:59,719
like part of that presentation that maybe
have negatively colored my my view on the

945
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:02,159
game before even jumping into it,
is that like I'm being told that this

946
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:06,840
is a very important game. This
you're gonna like this, this is gonna

947
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,559
be huge, the storytelling is gonna
be amazing, it's gonna look great,

948
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,480
and then when I'm playing through it, it's like, oh, Okay,

949
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:15,719
I guess I'm just gonna push up
on the same. Yes, I think

950
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:20,239
even if like we were making assumptions
that were based on our own imagination with

951
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,519
like oh, this is going to
be something that stands at the top tier

952
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,519
of gaming at the very least,
I was my expectation was, and I

953
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:30,199
think this is fair that they would
have evolved on what they did with the

954
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,599
first game to try to bring in
a wider audience and improve them what they

955
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:36,599
did the first time around, which
I think as a game it was I

956
01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:37,559
think everyone kind of agreed. It's
like, ah, listen, you're not

957
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,559
here for the combat, you're not
here for for the puzzles. Those things

958
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:43,320
kind of get in the way of
what's good here. It's like, Okay,

959
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,039
we'll make those things better this time. And it just sounds like that's

960
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:47,000
not what happened. Well, And
I remember with the first one they were

961
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:51,480
saying things pre released that sounded very
interesting to me, like they made a

962
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,400
big push for like, oh,
you know it's gonna it is Yeah,

963
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,599
so it's like, uh, you
know, we're gonna explore you know,

964
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:59,199
mental illness and a serious time.
It's like, oh, that's interesting how

965
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:01,320
that goes. But also they said
like if you die enough times, we

966
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,400
delete your save and they just lied
about that. Yeah, I just never

967
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,199
was a thing. Yeah, put
the kebash on that, I think.

968
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,679
Yeah, like two things that I
thought were pretty interesting pre released. The

969
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:14,159
first one just I don't know,
I don't I don't think it was a

970
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:17,159
particularly nuanced great like look at mental
health or anything. And also the cool

971
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:22,000
we delete your safe thing wasn't even
real. Yeah, I remember that they

972
01:02:22,039 --> 01:02:25,679
they did that was like a big
actfinitely lost a point this for the first

973
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:31,000
game. I forgot about that,
You're right, Yeah, Yeah, I

974
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,199
don't know. I guess there's just
a lot of There's a lot of stuff.

975
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,639
Yeah, I think that's so.
Yeah. I think that's where my

976
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:39,639
expectations are for this one, where
it's like, Okay, you made you

977
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:45,000
did some talking last time, and
you didn't follow through on that. Now

978
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:47,079
you have a chance to like work
on this game for years and have Microsoft

979
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:52,400
resources. Can you follow through this
time and maybe do some weird stuff that

980
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:57,280
catches as off guard? And it
doesn't sound like that's happening either. For

981
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,639
me. This game was never going
to be for me. It sounds like

982
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,760
my anytime, I'm just like I
feel like I am pressing for to make

983
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,000
a video play on the screen.
I am out almost immediately, and this

984
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:12,039
one sounds like the worst offender yet. Yeah, well damn, is this

985
01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:16,559
beginning worse for you than like the
crawling scene in middle Gear Solid five.

986
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,760
I mean, look, the crawling
scene is definitely not my favorite part of

987
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,719
Meddle Gear Solid Fire, but at
least it's like, look, I'm obsessed

988
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,000
with middle Gear lore. So when
I see shit going on, like,

989
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:30,280
oh, what's with this fire man? Wait? You know it's playing Bowie

990
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,159
music, It's like it was it
was drenched and stuff that I'm into,

991
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:37,480
which is just weird middle year Kajima
shit versus this is a world and a

992
01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:39,920
story and a character that I don't
care about and didn't the first time around,

993
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:44,559
versus Metal Gear me having like decades
of obsession with this world before,

994
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:47,159
and so like I was intrigued by
what was happening. Not that like if

995
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:49,920
I was the Restart band and Pain
Tomorrow, I'd be like, oh,

996
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,440
I'm really enjoying this crawling. No, But the first time I was intrigued

997
01:03:52,480 --> 01:04:00,400
at least where I was not here. Okay, yeah, I this feels

998
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,079
like, uh the movie The Northman, and I thought i'd like that and

999
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,480
I didn't like it. I've been
thinking about watching that. Would I like

1000
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:12,320
it. There's there's some cool spear
throwing in it that sounds cool. Maybe

1001
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,639
I'm just like, you know,
I'm ramping up my my Aunia tailor Joyfix

1002
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:18,639
to prepare for furios I got my
tickets. Sure, Oh my god,

1003
01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:25,559
I'm so excited. Yeah, grub
has has any grub backlar any of our

1004
01:04:25,639 --> 01:04:29,960
our discussion here influencing you to to
rush out and play it or kind of

1005
01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:33,840
use Yeah, I meant, I
meant to play it, you know,

1006
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,440
I just you know, like life
gets in the way, you know what

1007
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:42,760
I mean, ice pieces of ice
cream gas, you know, Uh,

1008
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,480
certainly I think I will start it. I will. I just got to

1009
01:04:46,519 --> 01:04:50,760
see it, you know. And
maybe that's the kind of like takeaway from

1010
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,480
this thing where like, you know, I don't think it. I don't

1011
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,280
think it sounds like a game that
you should maybe spend money on to just

1012
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,280
try it out, right, Like
to take away from this, it is

1013
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,320
on game pass, So yeah,
I think I might. I I definitely

1014
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,800
mean to play it because I,
like I said, played the first one.

1015
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,840
I am intrigued. I do have
a soft spot for this developer.

1016
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,719
I I you know how you feel
about Heavenly Sword and honestly to the to

1017
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,880
the West, Like, obviously that's
GMC. I'm a defender totally. And

1018
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:25,159
I just there's something about this developer
that I just have like a very I'm

1019
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,480
like pot committed. There's something about
it that I'm just like I want to

1020
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,639
And it sounds like they're going to
be making another game that's already on its

1021
01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:34,159
way, so that's cool. Just
maybe maybe it's not this again, maybe

1022
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:39,880
just maybe it's something else, you
know, But yeah, I wonder I

1023
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,440
feel like you and I have a
lot of similar sensibilities with games, and

1024
01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:44,760
I is it true? Is it
fair to say that, like, the

1025
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,800
more something feels like a video game, the more we like it, like

1026
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,079
the more and the less it feels
like a video game and more it feels

1027
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:55,119
like an interactive art piece or storytelling
the medium or something like. And I

1028
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,440
think that would make people upset to
be like, well, no video games

1029
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,559
could be those those things, and
it's like okay, But to me,

1030
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,519
I know what I think a video
game should feel like, and it's I

1031
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:08,400
always go to like way back to
Super Mario Brothers versus Pitfall, people could

1032
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,360
be like, well, no,
people could just prefer pitfalls. They like

1033
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,199
the way that feels. I'm like, yeah, but there's a reason more

1034
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:15,760
people choose Super Mario Brothers. It's
because it feels more honest to our expectations

1035
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,679
of the way a character should move
through space. And there's something primordial about

1036
01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:26,199
that, and that is what I
like. Video games can be universal because

1037
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:29,719
we all are alive and exist in
a physical world that we interact with systems

1038
01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:33,400
constantly, and I want a game
to try to emulate that and play around

1039
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,719
with that space, because that's the
space we don't actually get to do stuff

1040
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,559
with in real life because there's consequences
of hurting yourself or spending money or whatever.

1041
01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:44,480
And video games can play around in
that space way more than any other

1042
01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:46,599
medium. So anytime a game feels
like it's shying away from that to do

1043
01:06:46,639 --> 01:06:49,239
something that feels like, well,
we're going to be like a movie instead,

1044
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,000
to me, it feels like a
waste. Yeah. Well, even

1045
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,800
in games that aren't like purely cinematically, you know, I'm plan their wind

1046
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,679
Waker again right now, and even
that I'm like, at the beginning hour,

1047
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:00,559
I'm like, I gotta go through
this fucking Bill and talk to my

1048
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:02,320
Grandma's put on my clothes and shit, it's like I want to get to

1049
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,360
Like that's why I love a Dead
Sales, a Mario sixty four, an

1050
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,119
Astrobot or something where it's like you're
non white where you start a game and

1051
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:11,760
it's just like, let's go,
Okay, I'm doing I'm jumping, I'm

1052
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,920
doing stuff. Are the best,
Like that's kind of what that's for us,

1053
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,639
you know, And something like this
or a lot of the kind of

1054
01:07:16,639 --> 01:07:20,039
big kind of prestige game type thing
or the big sony single player stuff like

1055
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,800
it takes we can get there,
but it's got to happen, and that

1056
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,039
appeals to a different audience. And
I'm glad they're getting their stuff. But

1057
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,840
for me, it's not what I'm
here for. Yeah, but okay,

1058
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,280
so I so I'm mostly on the
same wavelength as you both. I care

1059
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:40,400
very deeply about storytelling in games because
I do think it has won me over

1060
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:44,840
in the past before in a way
for me to I've just been blown away

1061
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,000
by I think you know, if
you know me, you know I'm a

1062
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:54,920
BioShock mark for sure, Like,
especially when the first game came out,

1063
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,239
what remains of you Toith Finch,
I think like really affected me in a

1064
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,800
way that I was like, wow, you can do this, Like this

1065
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,840
is possible. But as we've grown, and as our tastes have evolved,

1066
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:08,039
and as games have evolved in the
way they kind of like present narrative,

1067
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,119
I do think, uh, in
the same way that like trends age out

1068
01:08:13,199 --> 01:08:15,800
of vogue and become you know,
trite and and just sort of like,

1069
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:19,560
you know, lame. Right,
Like I there hasn't been, in my

1070
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,399
opinion, a big enough jump in
the way those two things are married,

1071
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,119
right, Yeah, And I think
and I you know, it's obviously been

1072
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:31,039
a topic of conversation for a while
with like you're uncharted and your last of

1073
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:36,600
us is this and whatnot? Like
certainly certainly that's swinging too far in one

1074
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,600
direction, right, So like where
does it make sense? How do you

1075
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,119
do it? That's what I'm interested
to see is like being awoke, being

1076
01:08:44,239 --> 01:08:47,159
like having that epiphany again of like
man, they fucking kind of did it.

1077
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:50,439
And I do think there's shades of
it in games in places. Yeah,

1078
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:56,439
right, I had that last year
with Alan Wake two. Yeah,

1079
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:01,119
exactly that, and and look like
I do I think sometimes it's swerved out

1080
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:02,960
of its laying a little bit,
and it was just like, okay,

1081
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,399
well we're entering like the walkie talkie
kind of thing a little bit. But

1082
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:11,439
but yes, I agree jan like
for me for my money, like as

1083
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,359
a whole package. Yes, that
was that was the sort of like next

1084
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,800
milestone, right for sure. I
like it when the story is happening around

1085
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,239
you, Like I remember, really
when I played the first half Life,

1086
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:23,960
I remember I was so taken by
like you know, you'd just be walking

1087
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,640
past the room and you'd look in
the window and you'd see something happening with

1088
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,239
the scientist and something's breaking intough the
ceiling or whatever, and like it's like,

1089
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:30,920
oh shit, I just happened to
be looking at that. And sure,

1090
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,600
of course they make it so you're
looking at that, but like I

1091
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,479
never felt like I was taken out
of the game. And I yes,

1092
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,319
I realized how hypocritical this is as
someone who's obsessed with metal, you'r solid

1093
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:41,119
the most. Put down your controller
and let me talk to you game ever,

1094
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:44,279
But that's an anomaly. But I
like it when the story is happening

1095
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,600
around the game and you can choose
to partake in as much little as you

1096
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,039
want, yeah, or Metric Prime
excuse me, not for but yeah,

1097
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:56,000
sure, yeah, yeah, we've
been playing of course. Yeah. I

1098
01:09:56,079 --> 01:09:59,520
think for me, when I start
thinking about like where does this go and

1099
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:04,479
what is like the default, I
think like story feels like when you go

1100
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,000
in that direction, there's a you
have options. But I think it's like

1101
01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:11,079
you're gonna see trends like, hey, we are going to be like a

1102
01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:13,720
Prestige movie. Are we gonna we
are gonna be more like Prestige TV,

1103
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,399
And that'll kind of come and go
in waves, Whereas I think there's something

1104
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:21,199
more timeless in my opinion about a
game that just goes and lets you lets

1105
01:10:21,279 --> 01:10:26,479
you be free and if there's a
story, you're experiencing it like like as

1106
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,119
an ambient factor like you were talking
about Dan, And I think like there's

1107
01:10:30,119 --> 01:10:32,920
a reason we had Zelda go from
the legend of Zelda on the nes and

1108
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:35,800
kind of return to that just go
be free in the world with Breath of

1109
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,720
the Wild, Yes, and it
felt like, oh okay, no,

1110
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,000
they got back to where they need
to be. This is they got sidetracked

1111
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,439
by a lot of other stuff and
they pigeonholed themselves and now we're back to

1112
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,800
a point where it's just go and
play the game and experience this playbox or

1113
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,239
the sandbox that we set up for
you, and that felt more rewarding to

1114
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:55,720
me in the long run. Yeah. Yeah, if I were to research

1115
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,800
Breath of the Wild right now,
I would be having fun way faster than

1116
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,920
I would in like a game that's
also one of the best, like Okerina

1117
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,239
of Time. You start Aquarina,
and every time I started, I'm like,

1118
01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:04,560
all right, and listen to this
fucking tree talk about Perry's for a

1119
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,720
while, you know, like where's
breadth the Wild is? Hey, go

1120
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,680
have fun? Yep, yeah,
it's And I think it's a default for

1121
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,239
me. I think that's like we
will always come back to that point in

1122
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:17,399
between those those like that, like
that default, we will say, okay,

1123
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,600
let's try this with story. We're
inspired by this, And I think

1124
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,439
that's completely fine. Of course,
the game game developers could do whatever they

1125
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,760
want with that stuff. Yeah,
I think, you know, for and

1126
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,920
I think most normal people, which
we're dying breed, but I do think

1127
01:11:31,039 --> 01:11:34,560
like you sort of just have to
like let things happen to you, right

1128
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:39,760
like play what seems interesting and do
what you feels right and always getting a

1129
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,880
shot, and we're gonna be different
moods all the time, right, We're

1130
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,720
gonna want something different every once in
a while, for sure. Totally for

1131
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,239
me, Like I you know,
I'm always drawn by an aesthetic. I'm

1132
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:51,399
always drawn to a specific sort of
aesthetic that like pulls me in. And

1133
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:56,239
maybe that's the first seal that gets
broken, and then from there on it's

1134
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:57,880
like, oh, you know what, this wound up being like a really

1135
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,720
great story with you know, a
great game play. You have you have

1136
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,439
to be able to take a few
boxes, right, You can't just lean

1137
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,560
into one lane and just sort of
have that be the only thing you're really

1138
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,880
excelling at. But yeah, this
is, uh, this is good conversation.

1139
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,880
I'm glad this game it's good to
hit now. To have like this

1140
01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:19,920
kind of reaction to I Like,
I think it's fucking awesome that reviews are

1141
01:12:20,039 --> 01:12:25,279
like one hundred. Oh yeah,
Like I think that's I think that's crazy

1142
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:27,800
because most big releases now, it's
like they're all going to be kind of

1143
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,359
within that like one point five you
know Metacritic, you know, sick,

1144
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:35,520
Yeah, like very well respected outlets
like one hundred, very well respected Outlets

1145
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,880
fifteen and you're like, wow,
that's all over the place. What's going

1146
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,600
on here? Yeah, anyone who's
into it, maybe I'm happy for it,

1147
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,840
absolutely yeah, not for me.
Yeah, we're not yucking anyone's gums

1148
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,960
here. No, No, don't
yuckr yums. Also, I exactly yeah,

1149
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,840
I think Backler, you're your point
of like I had the wrong assumptions

1150
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,399
going into this game is one hundred
percent spot on. Uh, because like

1151
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,279
when I go into a visual novel
game, I know what to expect.

1152
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,119
I don't think. May also,
maybe because of my lack of familiarity with

1153
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:10,079
the series, I didn't know what
to expect with Send You with Saga.

1154
01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:14,920
The whole time. I was expecting
a bunch of rats to come up.

1155
01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:18,520
But I think I was confusing this
game with a Plague's tail requiem No or

1156
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:24,800
Willard. Sure, yeah of course, but man Plague's tail, I can

1157
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,640
get down with that. Shoot me
a bunch of rats. That ship was

1158
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,039
dope. Games do occupy a similar
space in my brain as well. Yeah,

1159
01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:33,720
yeah, uh, Send You with
Saga Hell Blade two. It's on

1160
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,479
game Pass. If you have Game
Pass, go check that out, or

1161
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,640
don't check it out, go go
check out Mister Mosquito for the PS.

1162
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:48,000
Just just download it and it folks. We're gonna take quick quick break and

1163
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:54,000
we'll be back with video game news
and an in depth spoiler cast for mister

1164
01:13:54,119 --> 01:14:05,600
Mosquito. What was that was that
talk with the family. It's ladies and

1165
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:11,680
gentlemen and non binaries. I want
to start this news segment by informing everyone

1166
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,359
that Charles Xavier is a fucking terrible
person. Yeah, listen, he's Professor

1167
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:23,560
X men related x men really professor
X Professor X Professor X fucking sucks and

1168
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,800
he's always sucked. Cyclops is still
cool anyway. Jeff Grub the News,

1169
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:30,680
Yeah, what a weird segue.
No, no, no, there wasn't

1170
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:39,760
really a segue there, which is
a declarative statement. I have news in

1171
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,960
front of me. Let's start here
with this thing that kind of popped off

1172
01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:45,239
after we started the show, I
think, or at least I didn't see

1173
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:50,079
it until afterward. Looks like ig
In Entertainment is acquiring Eurogamer, Games Industry

1174
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:54,079
Dot Biz excuse me, VG twenty
four to seven, Rock, Paper,

1175
01:14:54,079 --> 01:14:59,760
Shotgun, and more. As part
of this acquisition, there will be redundancies

1176
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,239
made, so people are going to
be losing their jobs at UK based organizations.

1177
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,800
According to Christopher Dring, who is
the head of games B to B

1178
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:12,560
and publishing over there at the Gamers
Network, Hey yeah, more sort of

1179
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:17,720
like media consolidation, people getting laid
off. It's wild out there. I

1180
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,760
kind of don't know what to make
of this, other than I know I

1181
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,199
knew Gamers the Gamer Network was like
looking for someone to acquire them for quite

1182
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:28,279
some time. Yeah, are they
Have they said anything about whether they're planning

1183
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:31,920
unfolding people under the IGN banner or
if they're trying to keep them operating under

1184
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,319
their own names. Okay, I
think they're going to try to keep them

1185
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:39,720
operating under their own names. For
the most part, Gamers and Gamer Networks

1186
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,439
publications are games interested? Up?
Is Eurogamer, Rock Paper, Shocking,

1187
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,239
VG twenty four to seven and dice
Breaker the business Also, Yeah, they

1188
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:49,239
looks like they're just saying right now
that they are going to bring those brands

1189
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:55,880
under this this Igen Entertainment umbrella that
includes IGN, Map, Genie, How

1190
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,239
Long to Beat. I didn't know
they own that either an Humble bundle,

1191
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:01,279
So yeah, it sounds like they're
going to add more to their roster,

1192
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,439
doesn't necessarily sound like they're going to
shut those sites down immediately or anything like

1193
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,600
that. But this is never a
great sign because you know, these companies

1194
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:15,600
lose interest over time and someone could
be left out to dry. But also,

1195
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,560
you know, it was getting hard
out there for websites like this because

1196
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:23,000
of the changes made to Google recently
and search engine optimization that's left a lot

1197
01:16:23,079 --> 01:16:26,479
of these sites reeling anyhow, So
it's not been great out there. This

1198
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:32,079
is not going to be some worse
fate necessarily, Yeah, it's just God,

1199
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:36,600
I just worry about our peers across
the industry and then correct Also,

1200
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:44,319
just like you know, the amount
of different voices in the space dramatically getting

1201
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,520
cut down, yep. I mean
historically there are always so few full time

1202
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,640
positions writing about or talking about video
games, even you know, going back

1203
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:56,800
to the nineties, and like that
has shrunk so dramatically in recent areas.

1204
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,399
So like, yeah, anytime you
hear about consolidation or just less opper these

1205
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,960
less openings that that does suck.
Yeah, apparently not included in this is

1206
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:11,399
a video video games chronicle who I
used constantly for news. I think they're

1207
01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:15,199
the best site for video game news. I don't necessarily know what their relationship

1208
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,520
was with the Gamer Network because it
was I don't think they ever fully owned

1209
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,720
VGC, but there was a partnership
there. So maybe that partnership is not

1210
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,159
going to continue, is what they're
trying to say here. Either way,

1211
01:17:28,319 --> 01:17:30,279
I hope DGC is able to continue. I hope all these sites are able

1212
01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:34,119
to keep on as much staff as
possible. It's it's a weird one though,

1213
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,920
And it's like, man, that
IGN still owned by Ziff Davis.

1214
01:17:40,119 --> 01:17:44,159
Ziff Davis still out there making acquisitions. I had to say that one.

1215
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:48,560
Yeah, yeah, Like what else
do they do? Well? They were

1216
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:57,840
they like when I started at snet
that the building that CNET's offices were in

1217
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,319
on twenty eighth in par And that
building used to work at it was called

1218
01:18:01,359 --> 01:18:08,399
the Zif Davis building. And I
guess like PC PC mag was there.

1219
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,239
Okay, here's I'm on zip Davis's
website now, sorry, go ahead,

1220
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,840
Okay, Yeah. So I I
feel like, and again I could be

1221
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,239
misremembering, but I feel like the
answer to me was always like like,

1222
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,960
oh, the question being like,
how is Zif Davis still this like dark

1223
01:18:26,039 --> 01:18:31,039
puppet master for media? And it's
like there's some I remember the answer always

1224
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:35,560
being like, well, they have
this like very monopolistic B to B thing

1225
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:42,079
that like everyone relies on. And
I don't remember any other like specificity there.

1226
01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:45,680
I'm looking at their current portfolio on
their website here, so gaming and

1227
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,399
entertainment. They've got IGN, Humble
and Humble Games Technology. They own Mashable,

1228
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:55,640
PC mag Performance Marketing, ZIF Davis, and Aberdeen Strategy. They also

1229
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:00,640
Oukla. Why do I know KLA
people? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

1230
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:06,880
so okay, so that runs the
speed data down detector. They have down

1231
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:14,600
detector metrics retail me not the promo
code excite baby dot com operas dot Com

1232
01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:18,479
Baby Center. Of course, all
the stars are here, Oh, Cybersecurity,

1233
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,800
Strong, VPN, mar Tech,
they Wow. They have a lot

1234
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:27,119
of brands and they just got some
more. It seems also shut down a

1235
01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:30,000
lot of bad Yes, oh yes, yes, I mean that's the thing,

1236
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:36,119
right, Like, no acquisition unfortunately
finishes without and that definitely hit here.

1237
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:39,920
Yes, and and and again these
companies weren't in great shape. They

1238
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:43,239
they had been laying people off before
they got acquired, but that you know,

1239
01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:45,760
getting acquired was not going to slow
that down. And definitely is going

1240
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,600
to cause some redundancies here where it's
like we don't need you, so that

1241
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,279
doesn't make sense to keep you.
And that's always the challenge with the acquisitions.

1242
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,079
Yeah, I hope these sites are
able to keep going. I've visited

1243
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,319
all of these properties before, h
I've used all their news before on Gameless

1244
01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:05,560
Mornings things like that. So we
don't need an industry where we have even

1245
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:11,159
fewer people covering games in a serious
way. And that that's also across Europe

1246
01:20:11,239 --> 01:20:14,880
as well, right right, I
worry about how this hurts the industry over

1247
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:19,319
there as well. Still around Edge
is still publishing a magazine every month.

1248
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,960
Oh yeah, keep that. Yeah
they just get that. Yeah, they

1249
01:20:24,039 --> 01:20:25,760
just did a really good cover.
I can't remember what it was, but

1250
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,039
I'm like, oh, I kind
of want to get that. Yeah,

1251
01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:30,760
they're still doing that. I hope
they are able to keep doing that exactly.

1252
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:35,279
Yeah, this is the kind of
thing where it's it's a down period

1253
01:20:35,359 --> 01:20:39,560
in twenty twenty four. You know, if these companies had been able to

1254
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,800
like maybe last until twenty twenty five, they probably could have got a better

1255
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,159
price or dictated terms a little bit
better. Because it's just going to be

1256
01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:50,279
kind of like advertising revenue is down
across the board for everyone and it's not

1257
01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:56,920
bouncing back very speedily. So that
definitely is what hurt these companies. Okay,

1258
01:20:57,399 --> 01:20:59,560
let's see here. Let's get to
the news I had written down here

1259
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,479
in two agrees to deal to buy
Hogwarts Legacy Mortal Kombat Switch port Studio.

1260
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,880
This is here, let's start hearing. Nintendo intends to finalize the acquisition of

1261
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,880
Miami based Shiver Entertainment, the developer
behind many significant Nintendo Switch ports. Nintendo

1262
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,079
announced it has agreed with Shiver's current
owner, Embracer Group, to acquire one

1263
01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:23,680
hundred percent of the company's outstanding shares, making it a fully owned subsidiary.

1264
01:21:24,039 --> 01:21:27,520
Since twenty twelve, Shiver has worked
on porting and developing software for the Switch,

1265
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,279
such as Hogwarts Legacy and Mortal Kombat
eleven. Nintendo aims to secure high

1266
01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:38,359
level resources reporting and developing software titles
by acquiring Shiver's experience development team. That's

1267
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,640
probably what is going to continue happening
here is Shiver, at the very least

1268
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,319
is very familiar with the technology that
Nintendo uses to make the Switch and what

1269
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:50,039
is required to port games to that
platform, and the likely scenario here is

1270
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:56,319
Nintendo makes Shiver available to major third
parties so they could port their games.

1271
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:00,720
Yes, that the Mortal Con I'm
bad Switch version. I remember thinking like,

1272
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,640
how the fuck is this going to
work? And like, I like

1273
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,680
the way they did it, and
because like instead of just trying to make

1274
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,039
it, you know, the high
fidelity and just chugging frame rate wise and

1275
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:14,000
everything, it's clearly like less detailed. It doesn't look as good, but

1276
01:22:14,079 --> 01:22:16,279
it ran pretty well. I remember
like being very surprised by that. So

1277
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,279
I don't know, that seems promising
to me. Yep, I mean and

1278
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,960
really, anyone getting those games to
run on switch in any way is like,

1279
01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:27,520
okay, you your magicians, So
you clearly know something, even if

1280
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,359
it's not the best way to play
those games, which oblieves obviously it is.

1281
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:33,039
And uh and Mortal komont eleven's ports
more Commont eleven on Switch wasn't as

1282
01:22:33,039 --> 01:22:36,039
bad as like Mortal Kombat one.
That one was really ritten by some one.

1283
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:39,560
Yeah eleven is the one I'm talking
about. Yeah right, yes,

1284
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,560
exactly, so, and that was
that was actually pretty impressive. I don't

1285
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,600
know, yeah, go ahead,
Uh do you do you see this as

1286
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:50,520
Nintendo figuring out a way to pad
out the rest of their year until like

1287
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,600
the Switch two comes out of Like
it might be hard to like rely on

1288
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,880
them to do something that's that quickly. Sure, Hey, you guys want

1289
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,640
to make a Metroid, We got
this prime for over here if you want

1290
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,159
to finish that up. Yeah,
no one's working on it, it's just

1291
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:10,399
sitting on a shelf. Yeah.
I think this is probably like the likely

1292
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:15,720
scenario here is they will have them
build out official tools that become part of

1293
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,119
the Nintendo Switch to development Kit that
make it a lot easier to port games

1294
01:23:19,119 --> 01:23:23,279
from X eighty six to what the
switch uses, which is, you know,

1295
01:23:23,279 --> 01:23:27,439
an arm based Nvidia processor, And
then the team will be there like

1296
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,159
as a support staff for these teams, or in some cases, this team

1297
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:34,680
will just straight up take a game
that is on another platform that's big and

1298
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,159
do all of the work to get
it ported over to a Nintendo platform.

1299
01:23:40,319 --> 01:23:43,239
You know that they'll only be able
to do so much of that at any

1300
01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:45,640
one time, so don't expect like
every major game to hit the switch to.

1301
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,640
But I think, you know something, there's a world in which,

1302
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:54,800
like Nintendo's like it probably does benefit
us to have grand Theft Auto six on

1303
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,880
the Switch to at some point maybe
this helps facilitate something like that, and

1304
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:01,920
that's something that like Iron Alex,
he was doing a lot of Iron Gaxy

1305
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,800
is a is definitely a port studio. That's one of their main work for

1306
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:10,159
hire programs. Yes, absolutely nice. Yeah they're not the like the only

1307
01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:13,640
one in that space. A Panic
Button is another one that does a lot

1308
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,159
of huge ports to the Switch.
They did like Rocket League and a bunch

1309
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:21,239
of others. And there's a team
that did who did a Saber Interactive did

1310
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,840
the Witcher and that that was impressive, and that's another team that's now on

1311
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,119
their own out of Embracer. Also, the studio probably wasn't like some massive

1312
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:35,399
acquisition. They were probably pretty pretty
small, and that seems to be where

1313
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,960
Nintendo's at with acquisitions, where it's
like, if it's a small team that

1314
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:43,520
serves a strategic purpose, they'll go
ahead and make that move. But recently

1315
01:24:44,279 --> 01:24:46,880
for Akawa, the president of Nintendo
said that they have no intention of like

1316
01:24:47,079 --> 01:24:51,720
fully getting into the we're acquiring everything
sort of mindset. So this doesn't speak

1317
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,279
to that. This is right in
line with what they've been doing with their

1318
01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:58,840
money when they when they have the
opportunity to make a purchase for a relatively

1319
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,039
small amount of money. All Right, Rockstar in Take two have given a

1320
01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:05,279
timeline for Grand Theft Auto six.
It is scheduled to release in the fall

1321
01:25:05,399 --> 01:25:10,399
of twenty twenty five, as confirmed
by Take two's financial report for the fiscal

1322
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,560
year of twenty twenty four. The
game's trailer, released in December, amassed

1323
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,720
over one hundred and ninety million views, surpassing the lifetime views of GTA five's

1324
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,359
debut trailer. The trailer also revealed
the game setting in Vice City and introduced

1325
01:25:23,359 --> 01:25:27,880
a pair of protagonist. Take two
CEO Straus and Zelnik express confidence in a

1326
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,840
meeting that announced the launch window for
Grand Theft Auto six, Despite acknowledging potential

1327
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:36,640
for slippage in the industry, he
emphasized the focus on creating an unprecedented experience

1328
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,760
with Rockstar Games, striving for perfection. Yeah, but he says, they're

1329
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,439
confident that the game will actually launch
in the second half, Oh, in

1330
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,159
fall of twenty twenty five. Yeah, a big game coming at some point.

1331
01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:51,880
There there was a time where this
game is expected to launch before March

1332
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,760
of next year. Now it's going
to be you know, sometime probably like

1333
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,279
October November of next year. You
guys, think you're going to actually be

1334
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,840
playing this game next fall? Come
on, if we do. Maybe it's

1335
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,560
a thing where like online is fully
launched in like the spring, you know,

1336
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,920
sure, Yeah, it's like all
right, we got a campaign or

1337
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,880
got the story mode ready to go. But yeah, because remember five with

1338
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,479
online Online had rough Yeah yep,
yeah, I mean that's part of that

1339
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,279
was like they just didn't believe it
online until it launched it became massively popular.

1340
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:24,800
Yeah, they might know what they're
doing over there, so yeah,

1341
01:26:25,079 --> 01:26:28,880
huh, take your time, guys. Yeah, yep. I think that's

1342
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,279
the likeliest thing here is that they're
going to get to there and they're like,

1343
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,479
if we took a little bit more
time, it'll be that much better

1344
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,520
and that'll be worth it because it
is totally gonna make its money back.

1345
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,359
This is like the one guarantee exactly. This is the only short thing in

1346
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:44,960
video games. Yep. So you
know, and I guess, I you

1347
01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:46,920
know, I guess because of that, you can ask the question of like

1348
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:54,640
why even just have this thing,
Like why even have this like completely unpredictable

1349
01:26:54,760 --> 01:27:00,720
roadmap, Like what what in service
of what their earnings were. They're like

1350
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:05,560
either revenue or their profits were down
pretty like in a pretty harsh way this

1351
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:11,199
last quarter. And uh, they
once said they were expecting eight and you

1352
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:14,039
know, they're telling investors, hey, we're expecting to make eight billion dollars

1353
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:16,560
in revenue, and now they've they've
wound that down to like five billion.

1354
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:20,159
So they have to like give investors
like, okay, yeah, well clearly

1355
01:27:20,199 --> 01:27:24,840
we've moved or moved up Grand Theft
Auto, which we once thought was going

1356
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,920
to launch in this fiscal year,
but we're promising it's going to come out

1357
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,560
next year, So please don't freak
out and sell your stock. Right,

1358
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,199
But like that's my point. It's
the one thing that's like to me,

1359
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,760
this information is more or less like
built into the market. Oh yeah.

1360
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,359
But so it's like investors are so
stupid. They're like just worried about them

1361
01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:43,520
gets getting scared and running away like, oh, it's not coming out next

1362
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,399
fiscal year either, I'm panicking and
selling, right, there's there is the

1363
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,199
chance for that. Yeah, it's
crazy. It's crazy. I don't know,

1364
01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:55,319
man, I just feel Yeah,
it's again, it's an anomaly,

1365
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,960
this franchise. So it gets like
this weird special treatment. But yeah,

1366
01:27:59,079 --> 01:28:00,640
what is like, It's like,
this is clearly the behemoth. Is this

1367
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,399
game on the horizon? Like what
is number two? Switch to? I

1368
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:09,760
mean software? Yeah, like an
individual game, oh, Elder Scrolls.

1369
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,560
I mean maybe so nebulous at this
point, but like, yeah, that

1370
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,119
is an announced title. That's probably
the second biggest thing I'm gonna say.

1371
01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:19,239
Mario Wow is like I feel like
it's a known quantity. I mean,

1372
01:28:19,279 --> 01:28:24,159
Mario doesn't sell like Skyrim numbers?
Does it? The last one? It

1373
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:28,039
did? Mario Oyssey stold like where
I would get to like thirty million copies

1374
01:28:28,079 --> 01:28:30,600
of the last mainline? Well yeah, yeah, mainline of course. I'm

1375
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,039
like, yeah, that's what I
meant. What do you think I'm in?

1376
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:34,560
Like, were you talking about Dan? I wonder well yeah, the

1377
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,760
side Ones Dance right, Oh my
god, Dan was talking about Juty.

1378
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,560
Mario games are like some of some
of the best selling games of all time,

1379
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,960
even like the new Super Mario Brothers
games. I'm not I'm in like

1380
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,039
an Odyssey two or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sign Mari.

1381
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:54,119
I'm not playing this game. I'm
having a normal conversation. Yep. And

1382
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:59,319
you know, fuck is wrong?
Early morning? Uh, Morning Drive DJ

1383
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,039
over here is fucking firing off a
soundboard like some freak from the nineties to

1384
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,560
get your question, like, what
is after grand Theft thought of six?

1385
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,279
What is there? I mean the
answer is it's a Call of duty again,

1386
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:15,199
like as depressing as that is really, like like a FIFA mad Oh

1387
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:24,039
sorry, we didn't mean to attack
your baby back baby. Look, Nicki

1388
01:29:24,119 --> 01:29:28,800
Minaj change everything. Sure, she
changed the game. There's a there's a

1389
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:32,800
clear line in the sand that's been
drawn. We're living in a post Nicki

1390
01:29:33,039 --> 01:29:36,560
Minaj world in Call of Duty,
Folks, be a part of it.

1391
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:41,680
Yeah, I mean I think when
I I like Star Wars Outlaws looks promised

1392
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,000
to me, that's like so far
away from what these games are. Yeah,

1393
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,039
all right, let's see here to
your wider point, though, Dan,

1394
01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:51,960
that is what the industry started waiting
for. Investors are like, you

1395
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:55,800
know, once GTA six is here
and once switched to is here, we'll

1396
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,199
feel better about things again, and
that's when people will probably let off some

1397
01:29:59,239 --> 01:30:01,439
of the pressure on the end industry. But that's kind of grim until then,

1398
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:06,840
So we'll see, all right.
Two K will reveal a sequel to

1399
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:12,840
one of its biggest and Most Beloved
Franchises next month at some sabatur Right,

1400
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,720
that's got to be the saboteur that're
referring to, right, and yeah,

1401
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:20,560
biggest most beloved franchise is how they
described it. It'll be at Summer Game

1402
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:26,840
Fest on Friday, June seventh.
What is your guys' initial reaction besides the

1403
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:36,600
obvious answer of the saboteur that's right. Yeah, it feels like a two

1404
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:41,359
K game. I get what you're
saying. Have they announced that BioShock No,

1405
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:46,359
so, BioShock seems like the most
like it's gonna be Borderlands. Okay,

1406
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:51,239
everyone sit down and relax, don't
mafia. No, it's not no.

1407
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:58,000
Here I am with the BioShock take. I just think, like selfishly,

1408
01:30:58,079 --> 01:31:00,479
this is just about me. I'm
only gonna talk from my position,

1409
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,560
in my position alone, the way
my relationship with BioShock. I can't have

1410
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:09,840
a BioShock four from the two Like, which two K team is gonna make?

1411
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:15,279
It was like, I can't,
I can't remember Laren Man Boston,

1412
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:21,000
what is that irrational? No,
well it's shut down. You're gonna have

1413
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:27,560
You're gonna have BioShock four maybe,
and then you're gonna have Judas, and

1414
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,520
I'm just gonna be there's just gonna
be that we're looking at a potential that

1415
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,920
situation, and I'm and I just
I think that I'm sure someone's thought about

1416
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,319
it, but I haven't heard anyone
say it out loud yet. Yeah,

1417
01:31:39,399 --> 01:31:44,119
I mean, like Judas is a
is BioShock? Right? Like oh yeah,

1418
01:31:44,119 --> 01:31:46,560
I mean, like come on,
so like that's all. I just

1419
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,239
want to say that out loud,
and I want to get everyone's take,

1420
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:53,560
you know. Yeah, I mean
I think that BioShock will be able to

1421
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,680
have its own place because it's got
that brand familiarity, and Judas will have

1422
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,560
to be a really good game to
get attention. But there's chance that could

1423
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,039
do that. Uh, it's probably
BioShock. I think there's a chance that

1424
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:10,479
it's Civilization seven because that's actually bigger
than all those games, uh and also

1425
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,880
beloved in a way where, uh, it's more beloved than those games.

1426
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,319
Actually when you talk about talk to
that audience, but this feels like when

1427
01:32:16,319 --> 01:32:19,319
they're saying this sort of thing,
uh, they're speaking to a certain audience.

1428
01:32:19,359 --> 01:32:24,159
It's probably expecting Bioshocks or or you
know, it's real hot right now.

1429
01:32:24,359 --> 01:32:30,399
Is class based shooters maybe it's time
to bring out the battle Born battle

1430
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,079
Born hand bloodies again. Yeah,
the real hobby grade games are back now,

1431
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:38,159
all right, let's go. My
money's on BioShock for this one.

1432
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,159
I would bet on BioShock. I'm
going to keep betting on odd ones.

1433
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,079
Duke Nukem, it's gonna be Duke
that they're gonna try that at some point

1434
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,199
they do. There's a young Duke
that was in development for a little bit,

1435
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:57,720
like a Young Sheldon, but was
happening a long time ago. God,

1436
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,840
my parents watch Young Sheldon like it's
something to do, and I'm just

1437
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:04,720
like disappointment viewing, Buddy. I
just it's just that show is apparently so

1438
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:12,119
popular. I don't get it.
And so TV is so fucking insane right

1439
01:33:12,199 --> 01:33:17,920
now. I don't understand what's happening. Let us pitch a show. Wait.

1440
01:33:18,119 --> 01:33:21,079
So like, also, my parents, not to make it about my

1441
01:33:21,159 --> 01:33:24,319
parents, but they're out for the
day, so I could scream as loud

1442
01:33:24,319 --> 01:33:32,760
as I walked and fuel these guys, these these too, they fucking watch

1443
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:39,439
Everybody Loves Raymond on dude, some
network, some TV network, and these

1444
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:45,880
people are sitting there from like four
pm to seven pm watching these reruns and

1445
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:49,039
they are getting served all the commercials, and I'm just like, I don't

1446
01:33:49,159 --> 01:33:53,880
understand what's happened? What is it
with old people? And everybody loves Raymond

1447
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,119
because like when it was airing,
it's my grip for them. My show's

1448
01:33:57,319 --> 01:34:00,840
not bad, but like my grandpa
loved it so much. Ye Danny like

1449
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,199
that you watch the Raymond Show?
And I was like no. He literally

1450
01:34:03,279 --> 01:34:08,760
said, there's something wrong with your
brain. The brain Garrett Peter Boyle,

1451
01:34:09,079 --> 01:34:14,640
like, you know, I get
it, like getting you, yeah,

1452
01:34:15,079 --> 01:34:19,560
Raymond that here, Yeah, I
know, watch out, watch out everyone.

1453
01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:23,399
That was just less than five seconds. But I think it's just like,

1454
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,520
I don't know why you're watching so
many commercials? Why are you watching

1455
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,600
so many commercials? Why are you
watching so many commercials too? Is that

1456
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,600
a thing with your parents? Oh? Your generation doesn't watch commercials because my

1457
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,359
dad will be like, oh,
it's like that one commercial for car shields.

1458
01:34:36,359 --> 01:34:40,479
Like, I don't know what you're
talking about it right, you watch

1459
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,520
commercial Jesus. Yeah, your dad
has like a masculinity weirdness. They don't

1460
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,760
know there's that, but my parents
are. I just don't understand. Like

1461
01:34:49,039 --> 01:34:54,279
I talked to my sit him down
once a week and we talk about this

1462
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,920
and he's like, I'm gonna try
and do better. But it doesn't.

1463
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,119
It doesn't manifest into any forward moving
progress. All the good news is all

1464
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:05,439
these video game companies are considering putting
commercials in the video games, so we

1465
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:11,840
never thing for Connect. I was
excited about donald to keep playing the game.

1466
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,439
You stand up in Neil McDonald's I
was fucking ready for that. I

1467
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,359
do that anyway. Yeah, that's
just a burst forward. I can't control

1468
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:30,600
myself break out. It's like somebody
said, mister mosquito all right's move was

1469
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,680
what was that headline? When?
Sorry? Sorry keyboard. Valves next game,

1470
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:40,319
a hero shooter called Deadlock, has
seemingly leaked images of what is reportedly

1471
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:44,399
Valve's next game called Deadlock, are
circulating on social media. It appears to

1472
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,960
be a six v six hero shooter
with tower defense mechanics. It's like it's

1473
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:56,279
an Overwatch mobile basically mobile Watch mobile
watch. Because that I don't know.

1474
01:35:56,279 --> 01:35:57,880
At a certain point, if you
just like, well we got to make

1475
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,880
a game, this is what you
come up with this Valve. I know

1476
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:03,560
that they also have Team Fortress,
yeah, but they can't make Team Fortress

1477
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:08,920
three because then I'm noticing. I'm
noticing this is not Half Life three?

1478
01:36:09,039 --> 01:36:12,119
What's that? Yeah? Again,
they just can't go to a third game,

1479
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:15,039
so they had to make a new
one. Uh yeah, I don't

1480
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:16,640
know. Yeah, Monday Night Combat. Is it like that? It definitely

1481
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:21,399
looks a lot like Overwatch or I
guess Valorant. I'm just surprised there's not

1482
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:27,079
a game called Deadlocke already. Yeah, Ratchet and you think the podcast boys

1483
01:36:27,079 --> 01:36:30,760
are gonna suit? Yeah? Yeah, right now? Oh yeah tm tm

1484
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:35,600
tmh yeah. I mean, hey, good good luck. It's Valve.

1485
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,760
They can make good games, and
if it's on Steam's front page, a

1486
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,960
lot of people are going to see
it. But that didn't help Artifact.

1487
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,159
So I'm sorry. What Yeah,
Artifact video game that once existed. Okay,

1488
01:36:46,199 --> 01:36:50,399
I could make up games. Yeah, well we'll see. I don't

1489
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,840
know this, but think I was
telling Tam when we were talking about this,

1490
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:57,079
there's nothing about this is moving me. Nothing about this is getting like,

1491
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,000
Yeah, it's not moving me.
That's what I would say about that.

1492
01:37:00,199 --> 01:37:04,680
Yes, uh, okay, up
next, Xbox will apparently make changes

1493
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:10,000
to the game pass model when it
adds Call of Duty. It's claimed Xbox

1494
01:37:10,079 --> 01:37:14,039
is reportedly planning to make changes to
its game Pass subscription model when the next

1495
01:37:14,119 --> 01:37:16,119
Call of Duty game is released.
The inclusion of Call of Duty and game

1496
01:37:16,199 --> 01:37:20,159
Pass is expected to bring more subscribers
to the service, and Xbox may use

1497
01:37:20,199 --> 01:37:26,520
this opportunity to refresh the structure of
game Pass. Insider Shunobi six zero two

1498
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,119
confirm that there will be changes to
game Pass, but did not specify what

1499
01:37:30,199 --> 01:37:33,479
they will be. What do you
guys think they could change to get more

1500
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:38,920
out of game Pass? I suppose
the obvious thing is upprice increase, right,

1501
01:37:39,239 --> 01:37:43,239
just don't do the confusing tiered sony
thing. Sony thing is still a

1502
01:37:43,319 --> 01:37:46,079
nice it still sucks, Like,
just don't do that like that that was

1503
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,479
That was part of what made game
Pass so enticing. Is like, here's

1504
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,680
the thing, you subscribe to it. I know they split it with PC

1505
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,960
and console and stuff like that,
but it's one price you get all this

1506
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,800
shit. And the sony thing has
been a mess since you know, PS

1507
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,119
plus expanded, So I just don't
want more of that at I think that's

1508
01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:04,479
exactly where they're headed. That's like
what else I mean again, let's try

1509
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:10,239
and I want to get too creative
here at least name it better then yeah,

1510
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:14,800
or make it more Yeah, certainly, tiers is an option they haven't

1511
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,439
done. They leveled the playing field
a while back. So yeah, they

1512
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,800
have game passing, game Pass Ultimate, and Ultimate comes with the online multiplayer

1513
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:27,840
and stuff and PC. And it
sounds like most people subscribe to that tier

1514
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,520
because most people want to be able
to play games online, so that gets

1515
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:34,640
the Xbox Live. So they just
do that. So they're probably looking at

1516
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,880
that bottom tier and like, what
can we do to sort of either force

1517
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,279
even more people to step up to
Ultimate or to make this one make more

1518
01:38:42,359 --> 01:38:46,800
sense. I think they would do
like like X like game Pass, Activision

1519
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:53,359
game Pass. Yeah, that one. That one feels rough because it's like,

1520
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,920
I think the whole appeal of a
subscription service is you get the subscription

1521
01:38:57,039 --> 01:39:00,880
service and you see, look at
all these brands under these all. Yeah,

1522
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,479
they're all right here. I feel
like so much more. I'm paying

1523
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,439
once and I'm getting all these things. Yeah, I don't I don't know,

1524
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:09,239
I don't know. I think the
most extreme thing they could do is

1525
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,560
take day one games out of game
Pass and put them only an Ultimate,

1526
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,199
So that means if you want to
get Call of Duty you got to pay

1527
01:39:15,279 --> 01:39:18,960
up to seventeen dollars per month to
just gate the timed right, So there's

1528
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:24,319
a there's you know, there's a
vault of games on the bas tier and

1529
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:28,399
then day one goes up to the
next tier. I think the other most

1530
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,520
extreme thing, like the secondary most
extreme, would be a new cheaper tier

1531
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:39,000
five dollars per month that is supported
by ads where you watch like a commercial

1532
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:42,680
before you get the drop. They're
they're going to do the prime thing or

1533
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,560
no, it's peacock when you pause
your game, uh and AD pops up.

1534
01:39:46,319 --> 01:39:50,600
That's there's worse, and there's worse
like and yeah, but Dan,

1535
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:58,359
you're you're making room for that.
You'realizing it will get worse. I mean

1536
01:39:58,399 --> 01:40:03,600
a manufacturing consent ADS while I'm paused
is less intrusive than other options. You

1537
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:09,000
know, I'm not screen Yeah,
yeah, you know it's a pixel savers.

1538
01:40:09,039 --> 01:40:12,960
What that is? I couldn't unpause
until three minutes of ads played?

1539
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,439
Wait? What what if you couldn't
unpause your game until three minutes of AD

1540
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,880
That sucks. I'm just like,
I don't think there's no way. I

1541
01:40:23,159 --> 01:40:27,920
think that there's a slippery yell.
McDonald's so fucking loud. Okay, yeah,

1542
01:40:28,199 --> 01:40:31,159
I will bellow McDonald's until the console
fears. I will door dash McDonald's

1543
01:40:31,159 --> 01:40:34,960
even if I'm not hungry. Well, now that you've put it like that,

1544
01:40:35,119 --> 01:40:38,560
Grub, I could see a future
where it's like, hey, you

1545
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,479
gotta you gotta sit through a minute
of ads before you boot up this game

1546
01:40:43,159 --> 01:40:48,520
that don't don't just yeah, it
will start. What's what's happening with the

1547
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,319
Prime Video right now? Oh,
it's one little ad for something that's already

1548
01:40:51,319 --> 01:40:54,800
on Amazon Video. And then it's
like, well, here's an ad for

1549
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,560
something that's on Amazon and now here's
two minutes of ads, and they're promising

1550
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,560
it's gonna it's gonna ramp up and
get even more intrusive. I mean this

1551
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,119
is like kind of across entertainment right
now, right all the streaming stuff is

1552
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:08,439
getting way more like so many more
tears, so many more just like okay,

1553
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,279
get this bundle, you know,
the whole gaming cable again type thing.

1554
01:41:11,319 --> 01:41:14,359
It's like we really did have a
heyday where it's like we had Netflix

1555
01:41:14,399 --> 01:41:16,640
and Hulu for a while on the
entertainment streaming stuff, and then like Game

1556
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,880
Pass and PS plus for a little
bit and then everything just gets so much

1557
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:24,479
more confusing and expensive. Yep.
Yeah, and it's it's just gonna sort

1558
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:28,600
of like go back to this default
state of what We're not going to say

1559
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,600
no to the advertising revenue, so
we're gonna jam it in here anywhere we

1560
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,199
can. And uh yeah, and
I think games seem like they're doing for

1561
01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:39,039
something similar, although you know,
the good news is gamers don't take the

1562
01:41:39,039 --> 01:41:41,960
stuff well, so there would be
a massive backlash, and these companies are

1563
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,039
actually afraid of that. So maybe
Dan's the only one welcoming this. Yell

1564
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:53,159
McDonald's man, so I'm stopping you
from yelling MCDI. Yeah, I would,

1565
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,399
honestly, I think I would rather
have a product placement. I'd rather

1566
01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:02,319
have like without it. Yeah,
more Obama billboards and you know, like

1567
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:06,680
give me like call of duties,
like you know, give me targets presents,

1568
01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:11,600
call of duty like fine, like
do that, give like sell the

1569
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,479
naming rights. I don't get skins
in all video games. I'd wear that

1570
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,600
crazy. Yeah, no, there'd
be so many people buying targets skins.

1571
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:24,680
And yes, of course it's like
a red shirt with a like oh my

1572
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,279
god, I to Jake from State
Form Yeah, look at me. I'm

1573
01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:31,479
a punkin spice latte from Starbucks.
I would buy that. Yeah, did

1574
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:36,479
want Karate Sheep in Fortnite? If
anyone's listening, he took over He took

1575
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:41,359
over your your Twitter account to say
that karate. You know, we have

1576
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,920
a friend who works for Epic and
he thinks that like he like owns Epic.

1577
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,800
He thinks he like makes Fortnite and
he just sits at like a Matrix

1578
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:51,159
computer command center and he's just like, I will now put you know,

1579
01:42:51,399 --> 01:42:56,239
Garfield in Fortnite with a push of
a button. So he's like, hey,

1580
01:42:56,279 --> 01:42:59,399
can you tell him to put Karate
Sheep in Fortnite? How do I

1581
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:05,319
is that like karate sheet? So
great question. Karate Sheep. As far

1582
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:14,760
as I understand, it is a
French animated cartoon on Netflix that is just

1583
01:43:15,079 --> 01:43:19,560
like sort of run a Roadrunner,
Coyote Shenaniganska. It's just it's it's mostly

1584
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:24,079
harmless. It's it's kind of like
Grizzly, you know, Grizzy and the

1585
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:29,479
and the the the Lemmings, you
know that show on Netflix as well.

1586
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,039
Sure, it's more just like you
know, Coyote versus Roadrunner ship. He

1587
01:43:33,079 --> 01:43:40,720
still has the same jaws, No
Dan and yeah, it's very Ohio Christian.

1588
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,960
Ohio comes out of this kid's mouth
more than any other word aside from

1589
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,960
Ohio. No. He's just like
he's like, oh he's a going to

1590
01:43:50,119 --> 01:43:57,800
Ohio. Bet Im just like like
like that's like it's like whatever, man,

1591
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,640
you just sound dumb, you know, like I don't care. I

1592
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,039
get it. I know I sounded
dumb when I was nine, but like

1593
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,600
you sound dumb. Yeah, anyway, I can't remember. Did Dave get

1594
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,880
onto a sketch with a what's up? Brothers? Yeah? He's like,

1595
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:15,720
it's it's Tuesday, brother brother Hell
yeah. Anyway, karate Sheep, I

1596
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,399
said to him, I said,
I said, I said, did like

1597
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,840
Karate Sheep? That branch is not
big enough to find it went to Fortnite

1598
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:26,600
Like you think it could stand next
to Lady Gaga. I think it's stand

1599
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:30,319
next to these kind of like monoliths
of pop culture. Anyway, he wanted

1600
01:44:30,399 --> 01:44:33,039
to put out the messages, said
here, type what you want and I'll

1601
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:35,439
just hit send. There you go. All right, Well, good luck

1602
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:40,359
with that. Did I'm gonna I'm
gonna sue Karate Sheep gimmick infringement with a

1603
01:44:40,399 --> 01:44:43,399
red beanie. I don't like this. Oh there's Oh that's right, Jan.

1604
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,600
You might have a case on your
hands, but I look like I'm

1605
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:53,079
cosplaying as karate sheep right now.
It's it's pretty funny, Like it's pretty

1606
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:56,840
good. He's got like a decent
taste. There's a higher likelihood that I

1607
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:00,680
think Blue would get at it to
Fortnite. Oh for sure he belongs and

1608
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:05,520
for now should be holding out a
sniper but banded behind that thing. No,

1609
01:45:06,079 --> 01:45:11,000
Jen, you and I both know
what franchise is well overdue to be

1610
01:45:11,039 --> 01:45:17,600
inserted into Fortnite. Come on,
No, Hocky In the venn diagram of

1611
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:20,680
things that you and I overlap in
is hockey in the middle? Coffee?

1612
01:45:21,279 --> 01:45:28,319
No? How can coffee be has
new hats? You know? May bald?

1613
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:35,439
Jen? What franchise? What cartoon
network? Franchise? Regular Show?

1614
01:45:36,319 --> 01:45:43,279
Where? Why can I not go
around as Pops Victor? Come on?

1615
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,119
Like, what are we doing?
What are we doing? Put it in

1616
01:45:45,239 --> 01:45:51,359
there? Man? Do kids care
about rent and Simpy? No? Regular

1617
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:56,560
Show is is like born from it. I can't get a lot like it's

1618
01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:00,840
it is. It's just another evolution
of it that I would buy the crap

1619
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:08,760
out of a Hannah Barbara pack.
Yeah, I mean like and also like

1620
01:46:09,359 --> 01:46:12,680
I don't know, Aquatine should be
in Fortnite too, Like where we put

1621
01:46:13,079 --> 01:46:17,399
that fucked up buggy that talks.
Yeah? Yeah, oh god, the

1622
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:21,079
shark thing. Oh my god.
Yeah, they got that racing game in

1623
01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:25,520
there. Yeah. Let me be
scrappy do and I could be like odd

1624
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:30,760
drop in Golden Eye. I would
buy I would buy a Harvey Birdman skin

1625
01:46:30,039 --> 01:46:35,159
in Fortnite instantaneously. Yeah. They
can get Colbert do the voice again,

1626
01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:43,359
that'd be great. Uh Gary Cole
is uh is Harvey Boss? Was the

1627
01:46:43,399 --> 01:46:47,119
Boss? Right? Seven? Okay, let's see here where did I leave

1628
01:46:47,319 --> 01:46:53,279
off Xbox from? Yes? Okay. Xbox has reportedly green lighted Ninja Theory's

1629
01:46:53,359 --> 01:46:57,840
next game. Xbox has reportedly approved
the next game from helbla developer Ninja Theory.

1630
01:46:58,079 --> 01:47:01,199
There are no plans to close Cambridge
UK, the Cambridge, UK based

1631
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:05,880
studio which Microsoft acquired in twenty eighteen. Now I'll say, like, that

1632
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:11,119
doesn't mean anything. No, that
doesn't mean anything. They could decide they

1633
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:15,520
could change their mind at any moment, and I don't know if there's I

1634
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,520
mean, there's no guarantee. I
feel like Microsoft could give a studio right

1635
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,800
now that make them feel one hundred
percent secure. So this like them even

1636
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:26,960
having a green lighted project going forward
doesn't really change the fact that it seems

1637
01:47:27,039 --> 01:47:30,279
like any studio could be on the
chopping block going forward. But it's better

1638
01:47:30,359 --> 01:47:32,840
than not having a game green lighted, I would say, So there's some

1639
01:47:33,039 --> 01:47:38,760
good news there. What do you
guys want from this studio? Next man,

1640
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:41,319
there was just a something about then
we just do that that I've maybe

1641
01:47:41,359 --> 01:47:45,079
I've read ahead in the news story. So we were just like we're saying,

1642
01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:46,159
like what they've done in the past
that we like, But I mean,

1643
01:47:46,319 --> 01:47:48,479
now there's an opportunity to be like, okay, we're past tell Blade

1644
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,600
two. Do you want them to
go back to something familiar? I mean,

1645
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,960
I don't know if I wanted them
to go back to something familiar,

1646
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:59,039
but certainly I think Dan would agree. It sounds like we look at their

1647
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:04,000
you know, pedigree with a fonder
sort of memory, right, So I

1648
01:48:04,119 --> 01:48:10,239
think a more action forward thing would
be would be pretty sick, you know.

1649
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,319
And I think they have amazing artists
there and let's just let's just get

1650
01:48:14,399 --> 01:48:16,960
let's let's get crazy, you know. Ask Andy sarkis to do some fucking

1651
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,960
ship. I don't know. Have
my sword Sony owned it all? Or

1652
01:48:21,079 --> 01:48:25,600
is that just exclusive? I don't
think it was. I think it was

1653
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,720
a it was a p S three, it was an exclusive, But I

1654
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,520
don't know if Sony owned the I
P or if it was just I don't

1655
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,680
know, and I don't I don't
know if are you getting out like a

1656
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:34,880
heavenly Sword two? Is that what
you're saying? No? No, I'm

1657
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:39,800
just trying to think other stuff they've
done. I didn't super love that enslaved

1658
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:44,600
the game rules. Why don't we
have a planet? A good planet of

1659
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,640
the Apes? Game? Easy?
Easy? Jen? I watched the third

1660
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:54,960
one in the New trilogy or yes, yes, yeah yeah man, that

1661
01:48:55,119 --> 01:48:57,680
movie had me just like doing like
this to the Apes. I'm like,

1662
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:02,359
yeah, y'all should win Apes together? Wrong? Yeah, I like that

1663
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:08,359
one especially all right. More Xbox
games reportedly could come to PS five as

1664
01:49:08,399 --> 01:49:12,760
part of Microsoft's Latitude project. Basically, this is an initiative to look at

1665
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,239
every single game to potentially bring to
PS five. There is a like sort

1666
01:49:16,279 --> 01:49:23,680
of fuzzy red line around some stuff
like Halo, but even those those games

1667
01:49:24,039 --> 01:49:26,239
like Sati Nadella is like, no, we don't want any red line.

1668
01:49:26,279 --> 01:49:29,800
Everything should be up for grabs to
go to to PlayStation. So that conversation

1669
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,159
is ongoing. But the very least
they have this project that is, hey,

1670
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,720
everything is now, maybe going over
to PS five. God playing Halo

1671
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:41,960
with a PlayStation controller would feel weird. As I was playing on Xbox Elite

1672
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,239
and I was like, this feels
fucked up. Imagine the weirdest one.

1673
01:49:46,079 --> 01:49:48,359
Although I guess you could play Halo
on PC, so you could plug in

1674
01:49:48,399 --> 01:49:53,279
a PlayStation controller now, but sure
was crazy. Yes, yeah, mouse

1675
01:49:53,319 --> 01:49:59,039
and keyboard right there. Redfall will
receive its offline up update. Arcane Austin's

1676
01:49:59,079 --> 01:50:02,680
final update for the for Red Fall
will introduce offline play, revamped neighborhood in

1677
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:06,880
nests systems, and single player pausing, an incredible feature. The decision to

1678
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:12,520
release the update comes despite Microsoft's recent
announcement of the studio's closure, So it

1679
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,640
sounds like what happened here is there
was enough of a backlash. They're like,

1680
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:17,520
I guess we should finish this so
the game can be playable offline,

1681
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:21,920
because previously you're gonna need a connection
to a server and there's just no way

1682
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:26,399
that was going to last for very
long after this, I mean probably years,

1683
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,319
but in the grand scheme of things, that's not too long. So

1684
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,399
this update will now make the game
playable completely offline. And it's nice that

1685
01:50:32,399 --> 01:50:34,560
they're getting out there, but it
just reminds me of, Hey, they're

1686
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:40,479
closing down Arcane Austin, and that
sucks. Yeah, oh god, for

1687
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,479
this to be the last thing you
work on, yep. Yeah, and

1688
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,960
then then you just got to walk
out the door and the studio's done.

1689
01:50:47,079 --> 01:50:51,159
So yeah, that stinks that that's
how it's going down. Total Wars Star

1690
01:50:51,239 --> 01:50:56,520
Wars is reportedly in development at Creative
Assembly. Creative Assembly is reportedly developing a

1691
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,640
Star Wars game, which is one
of three Total War games that are in

1692
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:03,239
develop element as of October twenty twenty
three. SEGA normally releases a new Total

1693
01:51:03,279 --> 01:51:08,600
War game annually, with the last
exceptions being twenty twenty one and twenty fourteen.

1694
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,800
Creative Assembly has done a lot of
these Total war games. They were

1695
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:18,000
also making that Hyenas Shooter and that
got shut down. They're no longer working

1696
01:51:18,039 --> 01:51:20,880
on that, but from what I've
heard, they've been working on this Total

1697
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,600
War Star Wars game for at least
like the last year or so, so

1698
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,600
that would mean it's still pretty early
in development. But I think this is

1699
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,279
a good fit. Oh my god, a Star Wars RTS. That sounds

1700
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,680
really cool. Yeah. Has that
happened at something? It's happened a couple

1701
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:38,880
of times. There's Star Wars Empire
at War and they're Star Wars Rebellion or

1702
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,520
something like that. I think they're
both real time strategy and not turn based.

1703
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,279
But yeah, they were like in
the heyday of those games. Careers

1704
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,840
got quite a bit of fondness for
those games, especially Empire at War,

1705
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,199
and I think with this one they're
like, we'll try to capture some of

1706
01:51:53,239 --> 01:51:55,199
that, but it's going to be
a total war game. But Total War

1707
01:51:55,319 --> 01:51:58,359
is a great fit for that because
if you just have like squadrons of stormtroopers

1708
01:51:58,399 --> 01:52:00,520
and so that sounds it couldome Yeah, it sounds really good, So I'm

1709
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:05,319
hopeful. Yeah, this sounds really
cool. Yeah, well, we'll see,

1710
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:09,039
like if they get around to announce
it anytime soon. Again, it

1711
01:52:09,079 --> 01:52:11,920
sounds like it's very early, but
uh, I don't know anyone that really

1712
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,600
plays Total War. Are those supposed
to be pretty good right now? Yes,

1713
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,880
they've been good for twenty years ish
and they're they're still very good.

1714
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:23,159
People really like them. It's like, uh, you're not commanding whole armies.

1715
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:27,439
You're not and you're not commanding like
just a little platoon like in Company

1716
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,960
of Heroes. It's like a large
squadron or something like that where you're gonna

1717
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,319
have a couple of hundred units and
then you're gonna go into a battle with

1718
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:38,279
them, and it's, uh,
it's pretty cool. Just it's like slow

1719
01:52:38,399 --> 01:52:42,119
moving so you can like adjust your
strategies on the fly and then it all

1720
01:52:42,159 --> 01:52:44,439
happens on screen in front of you. It's it's a really cool series.

1721
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:45,159
There's a reason there's been so many
of them. Like, I'll have to

1722
01:52:45,199 --> 01:52:49,880
check it out. That sounds really
cool. Yoko Taro's new game might be

1723
01:52:50,079 --> 01:52:55,239
near, and it might not be
Near. Scoring executive shut Up Joyce case

1724
01:52:55,359 --> 01:53:00,000
side Tooe and Near series director Yoko
Taro are collaborating on a new product.

1725
01:53:00,319 --> 01:53:06,279
Composer kg okabeuh Psyto mentioned the project
during the discussion with former Capcom producers.

1726
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:12,159
Details are scamped, but Cyto hinted
that it may or may not be related

1727
01:53:12,199 --> 01:53:15,800
to the Near series. That means
it's near, right, why would you

1728
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:19,439
say this, if it's not near, Yeah, I think it's not near.

1729
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:25,840
You say it's not near r exactly, And listen, I think there's

1730
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:30,079
a possibility that it's like near related
and maybe they go back to Dragon Guard

1731
01:53:30,199 --> 01:53:32,640
or they do some new spin off. But I think it's related to Near

1732
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,920
in some way. That's what the
say. I need to know if there

1733
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:40,640
was did was Yokotaro? Did he
have a little smile on his face after

1734
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:45,039
he said this? Well, Yokataro
was as always wearing his giant like moon

1735
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:48,119
man helmet, whatever the hell that
thing is. What did the vibe feel

1736
01:53:48,199 --> 01:53:51,319
like? Then under the smile,
the smile on the face of what you

1737
01:53:51,399 --> 01:53:56,000
were suggesting, that was the vibe. Okay, so we'll say near,

1738
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,159
Yeah, probably gonna probably gonna be
near. We'll see. Uh, this

1739
01:54:01,279 --> 01:54:05,640
is this is a fun one.
Masa hero. Soakarai refused to add Dolby

1740
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:10,439
Surround to a Kirby game because players
had to sit through the logo Oh yes,

1741
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:14,600
yes, what a hero. Sakurai, the creator of Kirby and the

1742
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,159
director of the Smash Brothers series,
once removed to Dolby Surround from a game

1743
01:54:17,239 --> 01:54:20,960
because the logo would have added extra
waiting time for the player. During a

1744
01:54:21,039 --> 01:54:27,079
live stream celebrating the tenth anniversary of
the Arcade Archive series, Sakarai emphasized the

1745
01:54:27,119 --> 01:54:30,880
importance of reducing loading times, arguing
that players should be able to jump from

1746
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,399
one game to another quickly. To
illustrate his point, he revealed that Kirby

1747
01:54:33,479 --> 01:54:38,239
Air Ride was originally supposed to have
Dolby Surround audio, but he decided to

1748
01:54:38,279 --> 01:54:41,359
remove it because it would have required
showing the Dolby logo at the start of

1749
01:54:41,399 --> 01:54:47,159
the day. Sky look as YouTube
videos. He's got like his setup with

1750
01:54:47,399 --> 01:54:51,039
all his consoles. You could tell
this is someone making games who plays a

1751
01:54:51,079 --> 01:54:54,359
lot of video games, and he's
like, I hate that, let me

1752
01:54:54,479 --> 01:54:57,039
just play my game. So he
just took it out of his game.

1753
01:54:57,199 --> 01:55:00,760
That rules. Amazing. What a
baller, Yeah, what a hero.

1754
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,680
And then finally the Assassin's Creed Shadows
got announced. It's coming out November fifteenth.

1755
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:13,079
It'll be everywhere. It's got the
dual protagonists, the Yoske who is

1756
01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:16,159
a samurai, and then there is
a now now A I believe, and

1757
01:55:16,319 --> 01:55:20,079
she is going to be more of
the stealth assassin ninja style, and they're

1758
01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:24,760
promising to support both to the point
where the stealth action will have a light

1759
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:28,199
meter and you'll be able to take
out lights to create more darkness and say,

1760
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:30,319
all right, that stuff sounds cool
to me. I just hear so

1761
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,640
when I hear that, yeah,
but I love that shit, that's for

1762
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,720
me. Yes, yep, give
me that. I'm very excited for Assassin's

1763
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:39,359
Creed, and I did think i'd
say that sentence in twenty twenty four.

1764
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:42,119
Me neither. I'm getting pretty excited
about this one the more I see it.

1765
01:55:42,479 --> 01:55:44,920
I'm not going to be ever be
a person who's going to play every

1766
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,039
Assassin's Creed or even most of them, but checking in every four to five

1767
01:55:47,159 --> 01:55:49,960
years I usually end up having an
okay time, and if I bounce off,

1768
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:51,479
it's like, well, I know
there's gonna be another one, so

1769
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:58,039
that's fine. My favorite thing in
seeing the parts of the internet freak out

1770
01:55:58,159 --> 01:56:02,039
about Assassin's Creed Shadows and being upset
about it and you know, putting their

1771
01:56:02,079 --> 01:56:08,199
whole asshole out there on the internet. You're seeing the counterpoints and seeing stuff

1772
01:56:08,279 --> 01:56:12,159
in Valhalla that had no idea was
there of Like, oh, I guess

1773
01:56:12,199 --> 01:56:16,680
you just fight a giant Egyptian crocodile
god. Yep, at some point that's

1774
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:24,479
pretty cools historically accurate. We're upset
about this franchise not being historically accurate about

1775
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,680
me after I fight this giant crocodile. God. Okay, cool. And

1776
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,479
of course, of course they're not
actually upset about any of that. It's

1777
01:56:30,479 --> 01:56:33,000
all just a work so they can
get mad about the thing they're actually mad

1778
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:39,199
about. Last story here, real
quick. London Studio has officially been closed.

1779
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:44,960
Sony Interactive Entertainment's PlayStation London Studio has
officially closed its doors. Found it

1780
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,520
in two thousand and two and based
in Soho, London. The first party

1781
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:51,760
studio worked out on the Getaway series
and was responsible for the sing Star franchise.

1782
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:57,560
And now they've officially been shut down. Yep, that's the end of

1783
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,760
that studio. It's a bummer.
London Studios's had like the interesting VR games

1784
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,760
and things like that, and to
me, this is like part of a

1785
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,680
series of shut of closures at PlayStation
that's like, man, these are the

1786
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,600
studios that were making interesting stuff at
the very least. Obviously they weren't like

1787
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,600
the world class like number one sellers
or anything like that. But after closing

1788
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:18,479
down Japan studios in now London studios. It's like, man, you're kind

1789
01:57:18,479 --> 01:57:21,399
of left with the teams that people
think of when they think of Sony,

1790
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:25,479
but they aren't putting out games very
frequently. Like, honestly, we can

1791
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:29,359
get through this generation without Naughty Dog
putting out like a game that's a new

1792
01:57:29,439 --> 01:57:32,079
game that would be insane, but
it feels like it could happen. Yeah,

1793
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:41,359
God, there's is PSVR two dead
in the water now, wouldn't sure?

1794
01:57:41,439 --> 01:57:43,520
I would say yes. They have
not brought it up in any real

1795
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:47,640
way, So okay, yep,
all right, that does it for the

1796
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,520
news. Jan I'm handing this show
back over to you. I'm rocking this

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01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:55,840
show back and forth, and I
think it needs a little bricky break.

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01:57:56,079 --> 01:58:00,720
Use the party, and then we'll
be back with some emails right after this.

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01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:29,119
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1803
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01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:39,039
Last last week. I wanted to
solicit workout and lifting advice from from y'all,

1805
01:58:39,399 --> 01:58:45,159
and y'all came out. It droves
different. Part of the answer is

1806
01:58:45,239 --> 01:58:49,279
creatine. And let me tell you
right now, your boys thighs hurt.

1807
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:54,760
Turns out, turns out I was
doing squad's completely wrong with this whole time.

1808
01:58:55,199 --> 01:58:59,560
Oh really, Yeah, I've learned
now what a lat pulled down is

1809
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,479
and all this other stuff. It's
great. I feel great. Can't wait

1810
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:08,159
for a Game of the year to
pop off late in the year. I'm

1811
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:11,560
just gonna rip my shirt off for
no reason. They they did. They

1812
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,079
did say that getting a bow flex
was a good idea and I should do

1813
01:59:14,159 --> 01:59:16,680
that, right I did. No
one said that bow flex is around anymore.

1814
01:59:17,239 --> 01:59:19,479
I was gonna get a used one
cub, get into running with me,

1815
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:23,199
run a marathon with me. Monotony. Yeah, but I need to

1816
01:59:23,319 --> 01:59:26,760
do lat. I gotta do the
lat stuff. That's my weakest muscle in

1817
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:29,840
my body. I want to focus
on that. I think bow flex is

1818
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:31,439
the answer. Still, I don't
care do the bow flex. Let's run

1819
01:59:31,479 --> 01:59:36,399
a marathon. What do you so? How are you building up your your

1820
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:42,199
running agility? There? Danny boy
hal Higden he's like a hundred year old

1821
01:59:42,199 --> 01:59:45,199
fucking dude that's been running marathon since
the fucking thirties or something. I read

1822
01:59:45,239 --> 01:59:47,800
his book and I'm following his program. I guess that's like the standard of

1823
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,279
just like here is how you do
this. You have like a long run

1824
01:59:50,399 --> 01:59:53,680
every weekend, and it goes up
like so right now, it's like,

1825
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,840
you know, Saturday, I'll do
a seven mile. Next Saturday, I'll

1826
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,920
do an eight mile. Next one
I'll do a ten. So that's working

1827
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,000
up for the half mile, and
then like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

1828
02:00:00,359 --> 02:00:01,680
I'm running at least a five k
every day, So like this morning I

1829
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,680
did a five k. Tomorrow I'm
doing four miles in the morning. The

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02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:06,279
next day I'm doing five k.
And then you have cross training days,

1831
02:00:06,479 --> 02:00:09,760
which are basically just like okay,
this is to work like you know,

1832
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,560
like you're doing leg strengthening stuff or
like rowing in core things like that.

1833
02:00:14,479 --> 02:00:16,199
So it's just it's very structured day
to day. And I haven't missed the

1834
02:00:16,199 --> 02:00:18,640
single one of them for like two
months. And yeah, I ran.

1835
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:23,760
I did an actual race this weekend
at ten k, and I've done those

1836
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,439
before, but I'm usually like really
slow and just dying by the end.

1837
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,680
And this one it's like I had
a pace I was going for and I

1838
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,479
beat my time by like five minutes
I was shooting for and you beat it

1839
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:33,720
by five minutes. Yeah, but
I mean it's like, you know,

1840
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,359
it's like, screw it. An
hour ten or whatever. It was my

1841
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:40,399
very it's a very reasonable goal.
But like I finished in like an hour

1842
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,119
four or something like that. But
yeah, this is like the first time

1843
02:00:44,119 --> 02:00:45,439
I've actually been doing this, right, Like I did a half marathon ten

1844
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,439
years ago, but that was just
me going out in San Francisco and like,

1845
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:50,359
let's just see how far I can
run. Then I'll try to go

1846
02:00:50,399 --> 02:00:55,159
farther the next time. And this
time it's like regimented, planned out,

1847
02:00:55,479 --> 02:00:59,159
like yeah, so I'm actually following
it, and I'm finding it way easier

1848
02:00:59,399 --> 02:01:01,319
and way more on that I've ever
found running. Helly, Wow, it

1849
02:01:01,359 --> 02:01:05,319
feels finally great. So running down
love it. Yeah. I want to

1850
02:01:05,359 --> 02:01:09,600
get to the point where, uh, we're we're going to be in a

1851
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,760
situation where someone needs something carried and
then I just do it with one arm

1852
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,800
dominant dominant arm, non dominant arm, or I just want to be like

1853
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,680
hanging from a Cliff and then someone
has to save me and I'm like,

1854
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:24,039
no, dog, I got this. Oh so like the beginning of Base

1855
02:01:24,079 --> 02:01:27,439
Ventura two, like you're the raccoon, but he doesn't need like that.

1856
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,000
Okay, I see, I see. This is all just building to my

1857
02:01:30,119 --> 02:01:31,359
tribal chief arc. That's all.
That's all. I'm trying to get the

1858
02:01:31,359 --> 02:01:35,039
tattoo. Get the tattoo, real
talk. I thought about getting a chest

1859
02:01:35,159 --> 02:01:40,760
chest tattoo or the chest. Yeah, a little little chesty double double pits

1860
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:44,479
the chesty. Oh wow, that's
that says something. I'm gonna be honest,

1861
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:45,640
I'm not listening. I just watched
The Shadow of the ar Tree trailer

1862
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:54,319
instead this whole time. That was
why what's your what's your favorite I want

1863
02:01:54,319 --> 02:01:58,840
to hear from it. What's your
favorite part about running going forward? Just

1864
02:01:59,159 --> 02:02:01,600
just how's the running around the structure
is the important thing? Like I think

1865
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:05,039
it's like I finally am like finding
like a workout structure that really works for

1866
02:02:05,119 --> 02:02:09,000
me. You've like you've liked it
is the discipline and the structure because like

1867
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,199
I remember when I lived in New
York, like I was focusing on like

1868
02:02:11,279 --> 02:02:14,119
I was like kind of getting into
like lifting stuff and I was. I

1869
02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:15,880
was lifting way more than I used
to. You know, I was doing

1870
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:17,199
benches with like the forty fives and
stuff which I was never able to do

1871
02:02:17,279 --> 02:02:19,800
before. And then I kept getting
hurt and I remember I went to a

1872
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:24,039
doctor at one point and he's like, look, you're not You're you're lifting

1873
02:02:24,279 --> 02:02:27,119
like the way a bodybuilder would want
to lift, but you're not a bodybuilder.

1874
02:02:27,159 --> 02:02:29,119
Don't do and like I don't want
to be a bodybuilder. So like

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02:02:29,439 --> 02:02:32,119
that didn't really work with me.
And now the running, like I remember

1876
02:02:32,199 --> 02:02:34,079
like teachers pulling me aside in like
eighth grade and me like, hey,

1877
02:02:34,079 --> 02:02:35,680
you should be on the cross country
team. I You've got the build of

1878
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:40,119
a runner, and so like I
think maybe I'm actually kind of like built

1879
02:02:40,199 --> 02:02:43,520
to run more and bike I'm going
on you know, thirty mile bike rides

1880
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,720
and stuff on the weekend. So
it's like I think I'm finding my stuff

1881
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,359
for sure here and I'm born to
run. Yes, yeah, maybe,

1882
02:02:48,439 --> 02:02:51,279
but it's great like making like making
a playlist and like knowing how long it's

1883
02:02:51,279 --> 02:02:54,439
going to take to run this ten
k and like knowing like sure, okay,

1884
02:02:54,439 --> 02:02:56,199
in the middle it is going to
be this type of feeling the music

1885
02:02:56,239 --> 02:02:57,800
at the end is going to be
able. We'll bring in the rocky shit

1886
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:00,279
and everything like it, just the
actual act. I don't get bored by

1887
02:03:00,359 --> 02:03:03,479
it, you know, it's it's
very fun, Yeah Dan. Two more

1888
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:08,199
follow ups, Yes, oh Dan, I would recommend you don't have to

1889
02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:13,119
watch the movie, but run to
the Challenger's soundtrack. I saw you tweet

1890
02:03:13,199 --> 02:03:15,479
that, and I considered looking that
up because like, now that I'm running

1891
02:03:15,479 --> 02:03:16,840
so much, I am looking I
don't want to listen to the same playlist

1892
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,239
over and over again. So yes, I can do that next time.

1893
02:03:19,239 --> 02:03:23,960
I'll do it tomorrow morning. Oh
my god, I actually shoot felt like

1894
02:03:24,039 --> 02:03:29,800
I could get into a fight with
God. All right, WHOA My first

1895
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:34,239
question, what are your preferred running
shoes? Ah? I uh so I

1896
02:03:34,319 --> 02:03:42,439
got Are you like a hawk?
Yes? So I I have like weird

1897
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,479
feet and they're like wide and stuff. So it's like hard for me to

1898
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:46,880
find I plan it for shitest issues. So it's been always been hard for

1899
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:50,680
me to find shoes, we know. Yeah, yeah, sol gear.

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02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,439
So I used to use like,
you know, Brooks Adrenaline and stuff like

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02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,960
that. Like Brooks has some good
like you know, arch support shoes and

1902
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,279
stuff like that, but they were
kind of tight for me a lot of

1903
02:03:59,319 --> 02:04:02,079
times. And it was when we
were having breakfast with the bone Yellows,

1904
02:04:02,239 --> 02:04:06,760
Jan and April was telling me about
the Hokahs or the Hawkas or whatever,

1905
02:04:08,079 --> 02:04:10,800
and man, I went into a
running store and they say, oh,

1906
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:13,399
have them actually get on a treadmill. They'll look at your gate, they'll

1907
02:04:13,399 --> 02:04:15,600
look at your feet and they'll do
all this stuff and like they recommend to

1908
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:16,239
them. I was like, okay, I've heard these are great, and

1909
02:04:16,279 --> 02:04:20,079
I've gotten a couple of pairs since
then. They are the most comfortable shoes,

1910
02:04:20,239 --> 02:04:25,079
So those are absolutely working for me. Cool. I don't wear a

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02:04:25,119 --> 02:04:28,239
lot of sneakers, but I love
the pair of Hokies that I got because

1912
02:04:28,279 --> 02:04:30,800
of the Bone Yellows. Oh they're
great. Yeah. Yeah. And then

1913
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,399
before you said you really like to
run like five miles or seven k's,

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02:04:33,439 --> 02:04:38,680
so which is it metric or imperial? Well, okay, so race the

1915
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:42,239
way it works is the way on
the Hall Higden stuff is it's miles.

1916
02:04:42,439 --> 02:04:45,680
So it's like you know, right
now, it's like you'll do Tuesday three,

1917
02:04:45,399 --> 02:04:49,039
Wednesday four, Thursday three. And
when I say ten k, I

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02:04:49,119 --> 02:04:51,600
mean an actual race where it's like
I signed up for a thing, you

1919
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:54,840
show up at a place, you
get a bib, you do the run.

1920
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:58,039
It's all like I'm only doing a
couple of races. The half marathon

1921
02:04:58,119 --> 02:05:00,600
is an actual race. The ten
k is an actual race. But when

1922
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,399
I say I run a five k, you know, several times a week,

1923
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:05,159
I mean that like I'm supposed to
only do three miles, but it's

1924
02:05:05,199 --> 02:05:10,119
like three point one for a technical
five k, so I will push to

1925
02:05:10,279 --> 02:05:13,159
the three point one just so.
Like my app logs, it is a

1926
02:05:13,199 --> 02:05:15,600
five k, and I'm big on
like tracking the stats and all that stuff,

1927
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:18,479
like my fastest segment it's fucking speed
running. But for real life,

1928
02:05:19,439 --> 02:05:24,039
how many literally yes, speed?
Yeah, it's amazing. Yes. And

1929
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:28,760
how many of those annoying magnets do
you have now on the back of your

1930
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:30,920
car? I own? No?
None? No, okay, good to

1931
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:35,640
know you're annoyed by that back car. People who have like twelve point five

1932
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:39,680
what's annoying? It's like, okay, I just ignore it. I don't

1933
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:44,800
know what's annoying not hurting yet I
oh it is. That's where you're This

1934
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:46,520
is where the comes out, Like, well, if someone's doing something I

1935
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:50,680
don't like, so I must disapprove. That's the part you're I think it's

1936
02:05:50,840 --> 02:05:55,880
funny to be annoyed by things.
Yeah, you're not wrong, Okay,

1937
02:05:56,039 --> 02:06:01,079
I think that is where we find
joy. I'm envious because I would listen.

1938
02:06:01,119 --> 02:06:03,880
I would love to go run a
marathon with you. But like what

1939
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:08,239
you're describing is in no way could
fit with the way I have my life

1940
02:06:08,319 --> 02:06:11,079
set up with the kids. Oh, I can't disappear and go ride a

1941
02:06:11,119 --> 02:06:14,119
bike for thirty miles. Well,
that run away from them. That's the

1942
02:06:14,199 --> 02:06:15,560
point. The ride thing is a
bonus. That's like, you know,

1943
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,520
you have your like cross training.
Yeah, but I like four days a

1944
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:23,600
week they're both in school in the
morning, and I do go for walks,

1945
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:27,119
but in that that's in the morning. It's I try to do a

1946
02:06:27,239 --> 02:06:29,920
two mile walk, yes, but
how long? How long are you out?

1947
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,319
Oh, it's so I do that
in like thirty minutes. I did

1948
02:06:32,399 --> 02:06:35,680
thirty this morning. Honestly, I
do forty five minutes. It's probably I've

1949
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:39,159
doing les closer to three miles.
I'm doing, yeah, thirty minutes to

1950
02:06:39,239 --> 02:06:42,920
do three point one, right,
So I could probably fit in there.

1951
02:06:43,039 --> 02:06:47,439
But it's like it can't get much
longer than that because I have the show

1952
02:06:47,479 --> 02:06:49,960
in the morning and stuff like that. So it's I could maybe make it

1953
02:06:50,039 --> 02:06:53,399
happen, but I couldn't do anything
on the weekend or anything like that.

1954
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:55,800
Long ones you're just to be able
to keep to. I would not be

1955
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:58,680
able to keep to the regular schedule
that you're describing, and that's what I

1956
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:00,319
would want. Well, that's the
crazy thing. I was, like,

1957
02:07:00,319 --> 02:07:02,000
I'm thinking about this summer, and
like my race isn't until late July,

1958
02:07:02,319 --> 02:07:05,119
and so like my really long you
know, eight nine, ten miles and

1959
02:07:05,119 --> 02:07:09,199
stuff. I'm going to be in
Vegas, I'm going to be in Oklahoma.

1960
02:07:09,479 --> 02:07:11,600
I'm going to be and like I've
got a lot of travel coming up.

1961
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:13,239
So I got to figure out,
like, do I wanted to run

1962
02:07:13,319 --> 02:07:16,439
in Vegas in July for ten miles
or staying in the hotel and doing a

1963
02:07:16,479 --> 02:07:19,159
treadmill run for that way? Do
treadmill? I I don't run in the

1964
02:07:19,239 --> 02:07:21,279
desert. What are you doing?
Yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure

1965
02:07:21,319 --> 02:07:27,079
I'm ready for something. Yeah,
dude, I can't wait. You're going

1966
02:07:27,159 --> 02:07:30,479
to be so slim. I can't
wait to see you down below. Sixt

1967
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:32,279
in the one sixties for the first
time and like one for a decade.

1968
02:07:32,399 --> 02:07:35,920
Yeah gosh, darn yeah, good
for you. But honestly it is sorry,

1969
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:38,840
I'm excited. I don't talk about
this that much. I'm excited talk

1970
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:43,680
about it. It is very interesting
to see like things that you might just

1971
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:45,840
write off as aging as like I
remember, like if you look back,

1972
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,960
that the heaviest I've ever been was
around the time of that like Belgium travelog

1973
02:07:49,279 --> 02:07:51,880
last year, so last July,
and that's when I started kind of like

1974
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:55,199
because I was like on the plane, I was feeling bad. I was

1975
02:07:55,239 --> 02:07:57,159
just like getting out of bed in
the morning, it was just really like

1976
02:07:57,239 --> 02:07:59,199
oh my back, my legs,
my feet, no, everything was just

1977
02:07:59,239 --> 02:08:01,399
kind of hurting. I was like, fuck, getting old sucks. I'm

1978
02:08:01,399 --> 02:08:03,520
like, yes, it does.
But I made a real effort from that

1979
02:08:03,680 --> 02:08:07,119
point and I am amazed. Like
when I pop out of bed in the

1980
02:08:07,159 --> 02:08:11,039
mornings now to do my run,
I'm just like i feel like I'm keeping

1981
02:08:11,119 --> 02:08:13,680
up out of bed and like my
knees are feeling good, my fet are

1982
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,319
feeling good. I'm just feeling lighter
and better. So it's like it you

1983
02:08:16,399 --> 02:08:20,640
can reverse certain things or stave certain
things off if you put the work in

1984
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:24,079
certainly. I mean, look,
more people need to hear that turns out.

1985
02:08:24,279 --> 02:08:26,680
Doing exercise feels good. It turns
out and a lot of things.

1986
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,039
Yeah yeah, maybe folks at home, you won't be as angry and upset

1987
02:08:31,119 --> 02:08:35,479
about the world if you just go
out and and I don't know how your

1988
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:43,359
grass it does roads, but yeah, I roads playing around on the weekends,

1989
02:08:43,479 --> 02:08:46,399
you know, Yeah, get more
Dolph in your life, grub.

1990
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:50,520
I think you would really enjoy.
Have you seen the steel mace workouts?

1991
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:56,319
No, it's just like like like
one of those big like lever workouts where

1992
02:08:56,359 --> 02:09:00,119
you work with like a big long
pole. Yep, exactly like it.

1993
02:09:00,199 --> 02:09:03,399
At the end, you know what
you need to do if you like that.

1994
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:07,359
Watch the video of Scott Steiner's workout
DVD where he's just lifting up logs

1995
02:09:07,439 --> 02:09:11,319
and tires and stuff and screaming.
Yeah it's uh yeah with all of his

1996
02:09:11,399 --> 02:09:16,239
favorite freaks are there just watching him
lift chains and stuff. It's incredible.

1997
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:20,880
Yeah. Yeah, God, I
kind of want to go, like do

1998
02:09:20,039 --> 02:09:22,800
a cartwheel now or something. Yeah, it's talk about workout, do you

1999
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:26,359
what do you mean, like,
oh, just to feel good? No,

2000
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:28,319
just like I just want to see
if I could do like a one

2001
02:09:28,399 --> 02:09:35,000
armed cartwheel. All right, emails, I'm enjoying our fitness arc era.

2002
02:09:35,319 --> 02:09:39,880
Yeah, yeah, you went home. It's never too late. All you

2003
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:43,840
got to do just start like did
you like pick one like program that someone

2004
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:46,960
sent and started doing it. If
you look at the GB discord, greb,

2005
02:09:46,039 --> 02:09:50,880
someone had tagged in it and uh
shots out to divine on the GB

2006
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:54,800
discord, they made a whole workout
regiment catered to me. Nice. Hell

2007
02:09:56,079 --> 02:10:01,560
right. They're a personal trainer in
the u PDX is Portland. Yeah that

2008
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:07,720
sounds right, Yes, the Portland
area. I'll find their info if they

2009
02:10:09,039 --> 02:10:13,319
justify the X. I mean,
look, Kansas City's airport is MC.

2010
02:10:13,479 --> 02:10:16,920
I like Airport Coast. Okay,
so that's the airport code. Okay,

2011
02:10:18,199 --> 02:10:22,600
okay, that's okay, fair enough
anyway, I signed so yeah, Uh

2012
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:28,359
first email, how that they justify? Yeah, get away with that.

2013
02:10:28,439 --> 02:10:35,560
That's just a funny like justify that. Uh. First email comes from Chris

2014
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:39,520
from Texas asking for Boston Recks.
Hey Bombers. So I'm going to be

2015
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:41,359
in Boston for a few days in
August, mostly for the one Piece Night

2016
02:10:41,439 --> 02:10:46,600
at the Red Sox game where they're
giving away a bobblehead of Lucy Loofy in

2017
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:50,000
a Red Sox jersey. But what's
more important is I'll be there for three

2018
02:10:50,079 --> 02:10:52,920
days and I'm looking for fun stuff
to do in great places to eat with

2019
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:56,520
my wife. My wife, they
included that parentheses. Since you all had

2020
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,399
such a good time there for packs, I was wondering if you had any

2021
02:10:58,399 --> 02:11:03,119
suggestions. I also considered going to
the Salted Caramel wopster role, but it

2022
02:11:03,199 --> 02:11:05,640
sounds like you got to be a
hotel guest there anyway. Thanks for the

2023
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:09,560
help. Christ from Texas. I
am bummed hearing this that I didn't take

2024
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,479
us to Lily's Bar while we were
there, because I went there last year

2025
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:16,439
with my dad, and there's called
Lilies Bar and Patio and it's just like

2026
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:20,560
funky pizzas and a bunch of like
cool like shareable appetizers and stuff like that,

2027
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:22,439
and just a really cool place with
cool cocktails. You never mentioned that.

2028
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:24,840
I can't believe I didn't. It's
literally the only place I'm looking at

2029
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:28,399
the Boston map. The only star
I have on my Google Maps is Lilies

2030
02:11:28,479 --> 02:11:30,159
Bar. It's like, I gotta
go back there if I'm ever in Boston.

2031
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:33,479
Great cocktails, great vibe to the
place. Man. Yeah, I

2032
02:11:33,479 --> 02:11:35,000
don't know. I fucked up.
But next time we're in Boston, Lilies

2033
02:11:35,039 --> 02:11:39,239
Bar for to get downtown too.
That brewery we went to Backlar What was

2034
02:11:39,279 --> 02:11:41,800
that called Trillium? Oh? Really
good? That was good. It was

2035
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:46,359
nice. Yeah, go to Trillium. There's a couple of them in Boston.

2036
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:50,560
That's my favorite beer in town.
But I don't claim to be any

2037
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:56,800
sort of Boston experts. Tiki Bar
was great. Yeah, surely, surely

2038
02:11:56,119 --> 02:12:01,039
yes, yeah, sure leave not
sure Lye's like I kept thinking it was

2039
02:12:01,239 --> 02:12:03,439
sure leave yes. Yeah, that
was a great night. We We also

2040
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:07,359
were in a part of Boston that's
like, I feel like a lot of

2041
02:12:07,439 --> 02:12:11,600
Bostonians don't consider it to be real. That's what makes it good. Yeah,

2042
02:12:11,359 --> 02:12:15,640
you know so, I like the
part where I won ten thousand dollars,

2043
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:20,560
right, that was a cool moment
that more often, I will never

2044
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:24,119
forget that. I will never forget
you just going over to the bar and

2045
02:12:24,399 --> 02:12:28,359
just chatting up somebody you've never met, just because you could not be thinking

2046
02:12:28,399 --> 02:12:33,279
about this sports timeline. Yeah,
I was just so confident. I just

2047
02:12:33,399 --> 02:12:35,760
knew it was gonna happen. I'm
sorry it seemed pretty certain, but I

2048
02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:39,960
couldn't think that way. Like it
was like they would have had to score

2049
02:12:39,079 --> 02:12:43,000
like four goals in right, But
it's not. It's not possible. You

2050
02:12:43,119 --> 02:12:45,960
know that one time I because I
left some money on there, I showed

2051
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:46,720
you like, hey, I'm gonna
win again. It's not quite as much

2052
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:50,359
money, and then fucking one team
did blow a huge lead and I never

2053
02:12:50,439 --> 02:12:56,479
ended up winning that. So yeah, yeah, next email is about gains.

2054
02:12:58,039 --> 02:13:01,159
Still in fitness, what's a BombCast? I want to suggest a workout

2055
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:05,079
for y'all that pairs perfectly with disc
golf. You all should join a climbing

2056
02:13:05,159 --> 02:13:09,359
gym. You can spend what I
want, You can spend way too much

2057
02:13:09,399 --> 02:13:11,399
money on shoes and chalk bags,
you can learn a bunch of new Lingo,

2058
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:15,640
and depending on the gym, you're
basically working out on a giant mattress.

2059
02:13:16,039 --> 02:13:20,560
I started climbing about two months ago. Parenthes He shouts out Minneapolis Bouldering

2060
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:24,840
Project. And not only are the
gains a parent it's the only workout routine

2061
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:28,399
I've had where I've had to force
myself to take a rest day. It's

2062
02:13:28,439 --> 02:13:31,000
really fun. It's addicting as hell. There's lots to learn and solving a

2063
02:13:31,079 --> 02:13:33,319
route feels like beating a boss in
a soul's game. Become climbing people,

2064
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:37,039
hit me up if you're ever visiting
Daniell, I'll get you on a guest

2065
02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:39,840
pass. Thomas from Minneapolis. Yeah, I wonder if he works at Vertical

2066
02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:43,399
Endeavors, which is where Tim Terry
got really obsessed with. Yeah. Tim

2067
02:13:43,479 --> 02:13:46,840
Terry got very obsessed with climbing for
a while and would not stop talking about

2068
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:50,880
it, and like made a bunch
of us go, like me and Hanson

2069
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:52,840
and Ben Reeves and stuff all went
and we try and it's hard, like

2070
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:56,119
he's doing crazy stuff and climbing up
there and doing all this stuff, and

2071
02:13:56,199 --> 02:13:58,800
like our fingers are hurting and stuff. So I think for a while,

2072
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:01,359
me and Ben Reeves just went down
into the mats and did wrestling moves to

2073
02:14:01,399 --> 02:14:03,760
each other. You take a rock
bottom like. So that was that was

2074
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:07,319
my climbing experience. That was fun. Yeah, I'm worried about my fingies.

2075
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:11,920
That hurts. I can't I can't
do bouldering because of the tendonitis in

2076
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:13,479
my hands. Yeah. Have you
guys, have you guys done the test

2077
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:16,840
of like can you hold yourself up
from a bar for sixty seconds because that

2078
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:22,960
is mostly about grip strength and you
know pull up. Oh I think I

2079
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:26,399
could do that? Yea, yeah, okay yeah, And they're like grip

2080
02:14:26,479 --> 02:14:28,560
strength, it's one of the best
ways to tell whether or not you're gonna

2081
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,359
have a lot of longevity. So
people have if you have, like we

2082
02:14:31,720 --> 02:14:33,800
grip strength when you're older, it's
like, this is a bad sign.

2083
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:37,119
You should be working on that.
Do you guys ever time your planks?

2084
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:43,319
Yeah, I did recently. I
can do like thirty seconds pretty easily,

2085
02:14:43,399 --> 02:14:45,640
and then anytime after that, it's
like, oh, this is gonna get

2086
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:48,800
right, like a minute. I'm
trying to do over two every day now

2087
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:54,319
and like you know, pull on
pushing style. Yeah, try, Like

2088
02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:56,159
two minutes is a long time.
You're shaken by the end of it,

2089
02:14:56,279 --> 02:15:00,520
but like, oh yeah, I'm
shaking five seconds in baby. That don't

2090
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:03,479
that don't make it wrong. You
know. It's funny. My dad never

2091
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:05,439
works out, and he wanted to
start working out, and so last time

2092
02:15:05,439 --> 02:15:07,199
I was in town, he like
had me come to a gym. He

2093
02:15:07,279 --> 02:15:11,079
had a ten dollar a month Jimmy
signed up for. He's like, show

2094
02:15:11,119 --> 02:15:13,359
me how to workout basically, like
how does this elyptical thing work? Or

2095
02:15:13,399 --> 02:15:15,960
how does this? And I was
also explaining like, oh, an easy

2096
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:18,279
thing you could do at home is
just a plank and I explained it to

2097
02:15:18,399 --> 02:15:20,520
him and I was like, yeah, you just hold yourself up and like

2098
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:22,239
if you could do that for you
know, thirty seconds a minute And he's

2099
02:15:22,279 --> 02:15:26,399
like, what that's easy. That's
a that's not that's not a workout,

2100
02:15:26,439 --> 02:15:28,119
that's it. Do you want to
do? You want to try? Sic,

2101
02:15:28,319 --> 02:15:30,239
That's just that's too easy. That's
why would I waste my time doing

2102
02:15:30,279 --> 02:15:39,239
that? It was like try it
like five seconds. It's oh, fitness

2103
02:15:39,279 --> 02:15:43,039
folks at home is like she should
I be like getting on the pro proteins

2104
02:15:43,079 --> 02:15:43,840
as well as what do you want? What do you want to do?

2105
02:15:45,359 --> 02:15:48,439
I'm trying to get like Roman brains. Damn, you need to have a

2106
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:52,880
calorie surplus and a bunch of protein. Okay, I just spilled coffee.

2107
02:15:52,079 --> 02:15:58,079
My question for climbing is I don't
like relying on other people for this.

2108
02:15:58,119 --> 02:16:00,439
I want to be able to just
go and do my thing hand go.

2109
02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:03,960
I always imagine a climbing gym requires
like the ballet and stuff. No bouldering

2110
02:16:05,079 --> 02:16:09,000
is just freehand. It is ok
Yeah, yeah, that's us. Okay.

2111
02:16:09,159 --> 02:16:13,039
I want to be able to go
to a gym inside air conditioned and

2112
02:16:13,199 --> 02:16:15,560
not have anyone else hold the rope
for me, and I don't want to

2113
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:18,239
hold anyone else's rope, so no, no, no bouldering. It's like

2114
02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:26,840
bouldering is shorter, uh walls and
then you're just going based off of like

2115
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:31,319
the difficulty that you choose for the
roof crab and then it's just yeah,

2116
02:16:31,359 --> 02:16:33,000
freehand in your feties. Yeah,
there's no episodes. It's gonna be fall.

2117
02:16:33,079 --> 02:16:35,239
It's short. It's just like a
back bump onto a map. Yeah

2118
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:39,559
yeah, that's make sure to tuck
your head, throw the arms, yeah

2119
02:16:39,639 --> 02:16:43,920
yeah, the judo judo fall.
Yeah. Oh I still maintain this,

2120
02:16:45,639 --> 02:16:48,360
Dan. I think there could have
been an alternate route for you where you

2121
02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:52,840
got really into Brazilian jiu jitsu.
I did moy Tie by a group on

2122
02:16:52,959 --> 02:17:03,520
from moy Thai, right, yeah, we're probably like twenty twelve, twenty

2123
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,440
thirteen, and I got Ben Hansen
to come with me. It was like

2124
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:09,760
five classes at a place called the
Cellar in Minneapolis, and I went and

2125
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:11,600
it was fucking awesome because it's like
a lot of holding bags and kicking bags

2126
02:17:11,639 --> 02:17:16,159
and just really just like wrenching into
it. It felt great, but uh

2127
02:17:16,319 --> 02:17:18,959
I did jam my finger really bad
like three classes in and had to stop.

2128
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:24,680
And I could be misremembering this,
but I do remember Hanson getting so

2129
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:28,120
light headed that I feel like he
was like whoa and had to like because

2130
02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:30,799
I think I was sparring with Hanson
if I remember right, and he got

2131
02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:33,079
light headed and because they did a
thing where it's like you got to lift

2132
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:35,440
your arms up and then he just
burned on the person's stomach and like it

2133
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:39,879
sucks. And I think I remember
him like walking back to the locker room

2134
02:17:39,959 --> 02:17:43,799
to get his clothes and leave like
in a daze, and I think he

2135
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:48,319
accidentally went into the women's room.
And so in my head it's Ben Hansen

2136
02:17:48,479 --> 02:17:52,879
just like Frank and sign walking and
then hearing in my head I might be

2137
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:56,520
Missmer. Now that's exactly that's how
it happened. That's how it Yeah,

2138
02:17:58,479 --> 02:18:03,000
all right, a couple more before
we get out of here. Next email,

2139
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:07,799
Hey Bombers, two part question for
you. One, what were some

2140
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:11,719
cases of advertisements inside games that somehow
felt okay with you and not trashy or

2141
02:18:11,799 --> 02:18:16,719
lame? I'm thinking Crazy Taxi,
Tony Hawk, maybe Fortnite, Yeah,

2142
02:18:16,799 --> 02:18:20,639
like Burnout Fortnite. I just accepted, like this is just like that is

2143
02:18:20,799 --> 02:18:24,639
the game, you know, like
that feature. Yeah, yeah, but

2144
02:18:24,799 --> 02:18:28,280
Crazy Texas firstime that came to line
for me. Yeah, definitely. I

2145
02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:31,959
saw when you were talking about ads
in games last week grew up. Someone

2146
02:18:33,079 --> 02:18:39,920
mentioned you can get a pizza hut
box as a shield and Fantasy Star and

2147
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:43,000
I'm cool with that, right if
it's really dumb, I think like cup

2148
02:18:43,079 --> 02:18:48,760
Noodle in any Koja thing where he's
done monster Energy Monster Energy Drink. I

2149
02:18:48,799 --> 02:18:52,159
thought that was pretty stupid and fun
and death stranding. So yeah, Jed,

2150
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:54,639
have you gotta be tasteful jet Modo
with the mountain dew? Yeah?

2151
02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:58,079
Maybe it doesn't even need to be
tasteful, I know, but tasteful.

2152
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:03,239
But I'm being very charitable with the
definition of tasteful here. But like it

2153
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:07,000
has to it has to be able
to like pass a certain kind of like

2154
02:19:07,159 --> 02:19:11,680
test, you know, a certain
kind of sniff test can be ridiculous.

2155
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:15,040
Did did anyone during the Dan doco
Derek thing, because one of the objectives

2156
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:18,559
was see a Tommy Hill figure logo, And I didn't specify the game.

2157
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:22,079
Did anyone get Yeah, yeah,
I got it. I went to loads

2158
02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:24,799
up and I knew as soon as
you said, I'm like, well,

2159
02:19:24,799 --> 02:19:26,920
that's the easiest one. I'm just
gonna load of ten eighty. It's right

2160
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:28,920
there in the splash screen. Yeah. A sacker, I would have hated

2161
02:19:28,920 --> 02:19:33,959
it. Yeah, it was like
like a dragon infinite wealth. Was that

2162
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:37,879
like an ad also for Hawaii?
Kind by the whole? Yeah, the

2163
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:41,360
tours? That was product. That's
more product. Yeah, okay. The

2164
02:19:41,399 --> 02:19:46,879
second question is what is the common
thread that makes these ads? Okay?

2165
02:19:46,479 --> 02:19:48,959
Why are we just pulsed by,
okay, by the concept of an in

2166
02:19:50,079 --> 02:19:52,040
game ad like a billboard in Rainbow
six or during a load screen. But

2167
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:56,120
Norman readas chugging monsters is okay?
Market is yours? Not a pr executive.

2168
02:19:56,120 --> 02:20:01,479
I swear it's because it is product
place Smith. It is an easier

2169
02:20:01,559 --> 02:20:03,600
pill to swallow when it's a part
of the thing. Like you don't really

2170
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:07,639
see the ads on the board of
the hockey ring, yeah, right,

2171
02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:13,120
Like you don't see that in a
way you see your moment being. You

2172
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:16,360
see something taking over a screen and
delays you from doing a thing. There's

2173
02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:20,840
intrusive and passive ads in that I'm
at a point where the ads that show

2174
02:20:20,879 --> 02:20:24,159
up on like the Xbox interface that
really bother people. I don't even notice

2175
02:20:24,239 --> 02:20:26,440
them, doesn't bother me at all
anymore, but a lot of people are

2176
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:30,479
really bothered by that. So part
of this is I'm just used to it.

2177
02:20:31,079 --> 02:20:37,760
Next email, I also miss cigarette
ads. Okay, we should bring

2178
02:20:37,799 --> 02:20:41,639
those back specifically. Yeah, I
miss like going to like Shay Stadium and

2179
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:48,079
seeing like a big Malborough in the
comic book, you're like Winston cigarette high

2180
02:20:50,319 --> 02:20:54,959
Yeah, camels yeah hell yeah,
Tim writs and hello BombCast When upf Dan

2181
02:20:56,079 --> 02:20:58,719
wanted to be able to use Prime
on the game scent. Though it looks

2182
02:20:58,760 --> 02:21:03,920
like that won't work. However,
he could get an ultrasonic humidifier that would

2183
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:07,959
send the prime into the air.
That's what he was thinking that the same

2184
02:21:07,399 --> 02:21:11,200
is Yes, okay, they also
make smart ones that can be connected,

2185
02:21:11,440 --> 02:21:16,760
so he could maybe remotely activate it
as well. How well it would actually

2186
02:21:16,799 --> 02:21:18,479
work? I have no idea,
Thanks Tim. If you could just start

2187
02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:22,760
randomly buying products and being like you
have to install this in your home,

2188
02:21:22,959 --> 02:21:28,000
that is that's crazy, grub.
I literally this morning the thought did enter

2189
02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:30,600
and axent my mind. I didn't
act on it, don't know of Like,

2190
02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:33,120
man, it'd be so funny if
I could get the actual stink bomb

2191
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:35,040
for juice stuff in there. And
I was like, how am I going

2192
02:21:35,120 --> 02:21:37,360
to possibly? Like men, he's
probably not there that often. I did

2193
02:21:37,559 --> 02:21:39,399
cross my mind, like should I
email Grub's wife and ask if she'll put

2194
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:43,840
far juice in the game. Sense
she would never because you didn't you know

2195
02:21:43,959 --> 02:21:48,520
how bad that smells. Oh yeah, oh I do. Yeah, it

2196
02:21:48,559 --> 02:21:50,280
would make the whole house right,
I know. I used to do it.

2197
02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:54,959
My mom was not happy. Done
it in cars, done it in

2198
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:56,600
homes and bars, done it yeah, that was kind of my thing.

2199
02:21:56,760 --> 02:21:58,719
Oh bars, he had. I
went to a bar once where someone did

2200
02:21:58,760 --> 02:22:03,600
that. Cleared the whole place out
if it's a crowd of bar. Not

2201
02:22:03,799 --> 02:22:07,200
advocating it out, but helped me
get some beer's quicker in college, Hey

2202
02:22:07,239 --> 02:22:11,440
Dan, do some Oh cool,
the game Sen's going off weird? Do

2203
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:13,079
an ultra marathon here? You just
you're running, Just run here and put

2204
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:18,159
it in there. But I'm not
looking. Yeah running run there just yeah.

2205
02:22:18,239 --> 02:22:22,479
Yeah, that's a long way break
into his home. Hey you wouldn't

2206
02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:28,600
charge it, No, that's rue
Okay, if well, if you wanted

2207
02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:31,879
didn't want to make content out of
it, Yeah, sure, yeah,

2208
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:37,600
the fun fart juice all right.
Uh. We had another email about someone

2209
02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:41,159
writing in to kill time while they're
waiting in a TSA line. But last

2210
02:22:41,239 --> 02:22:43,760
email of the show comes from Mett
from South Carolina. Dear Bombers, I

2211
02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:48,079
really like the Final Fantasy seven remix
so far, but I have to watch

2212
02:22:48,159 --> 02:22:50,000
others play through it because I keep
dying when I try to play it.

2213
02:22:50,399 --> 02:22:54,600
Yes, I fiddled with the settings
and knock the difficulty down, but for

2214
02:22:54,719 --> 02:22:58,200
some reason, my dumb brain can't
quite mesh with a combat and I get

2215
02:22:58,239 --> 02:23:01,319
my ass kicked whenever I try.
There any games you like but have no

2216
02:23:01,360 --> 02:23:05,920
but have to experience the story through
others because you're bad at them? Thanks?

2217
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:09,120
Love the show, Mat from South
Carolina. Fighting games I'm bad at,

2218
02:23:09,159 --> 02:23:13,680
so I like watching fighting games.
Yeah, I'm bad at having patients,

2219
02:23:13,879 --> 02:23:16,479
so any game that requires a ton
of that. If I really want

2220
02:23:16,520 --> 02:23:18,040
to see what's going on there,
I might watch the story or something.

2221
02:23:18,079 --> 02:23:22,639
I don't know. Yeah, I
like watching Eldenreen because I'm just never I

2222
02:23:22,799 --> 02:23:28,079
just I don't, I just I
can't fit that into my life. It's

2223
02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:31,680
just too good too. I want
to do it, but like I just

2224
02:23:31,719 --> 02:23:33,600
don't have the time. I don't
think I have the time. Quite frankly,

2225
02:23:33,799 --> 02:23:39,159
I just don't closest for me probably
like not enjoying peace Walker and just

2226
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:41,879
like watching like all the cut scenes, you know, I think even familiar

2227
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:43,319
scaling. We didn't play it.
We just like watch all the cut scenes.

2228
02:23:43,360 --> 02:23:46,879
Not that I keep thinking I should
probably play Peacewalker, but yeah,

2229
02:23:46,079 --> 02:23:50,280
yeah, yeah, it was peace
Walker in that collection of ca that.

2230
02:23:50,399 --> 02:23:52,280
Yeah, it's on there, so
like I don't have an excuse. I

2231
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:54,799
could easily play it. I own
it on several things now, Oh uh,

2232
02:23:56,079 --> 02:24:01,120
StarCraft and like DODA League, that's
another one that I like to watch

2233
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:05,760
versus actually play league in Doda.
It's because sometimes the community just got awful.

2234
02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:09,479
But StarCraft, your boys hands can't
move that fast. I watch a

2235
02:24:09,559 --> 02:24:15,000
lot of quackshot speed runs over and
over again. But you're also playing that.

2236
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:16,280
I know, I know, but
yeah, I watched the best.

2237
02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:20,719
Well, what like is there Like
it sounds like there's a lot of them.

2238
02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:22,879
Is there, like a go to
quack shot speed run like a Zeewi

2239
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:26,000
or something. I think is the
number one guy he's been great, has

2240
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:28,760
shown up in Gee Geewee. Yeah, he's got the twenty three minute forty

2241
02:24:28,799 --> 02:24:31,719
three, which is insane. Man, I watched him try to the Transylvania

2242
02:24:31,719 --> 02:24:35,479
Skip is nuts. It's just he's
He's the one I watch over and over

2243
02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:39,239
and over again. Now that I'm
trying to kind of hone in, but

2244
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:41,440
it's hard. Are you going to
get the long jump? I am?

2245
02:24:41,719 --> 02:24:45,639
So the thing is, I can't
do it every time now, but I

2246
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:48,280
can do it enough to where I
could get lucky once and that's all I

2247
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:52,159
need you. It'll make a big
enough difference that that's worth it. Oh

2248
02:24:52,239 --> 02:24:54,680
absolutely. And the good thing is
all the long jumps, if you need

2249
02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:56,639
to do, for the most part, is in the first level in Mexico.

2250
02:24:56,959 --> 02:24:58,360
So it's like I can just restart
it. It's not like I have

2251
02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:01,719
to get all away there and then
suck it up and restart. I fuck

2252
02:25:01,799 --> 02:25:05,120
up right away. So I'm just
playing Mexico over and over and over again,

2253
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:09,719
right now. Okay, cool,
yep, fan stick And that does

2254
02:25:09,760 --> 02:25:13,239
it for emails, folks, And
that about does it for the show to

2255
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:16,280
day and this week what we got
going on for the rest of this week,

2256
02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:20,079
we got game. This morning's popping
off Monday or Wednesday, Thursday,

2257
02:25:20,159 --> 02:25:24,639
Friday. We also have a d
light club this week because Mike Minatti is

2258
02:25:24,680 --> 02:25:30,200
doing business things all over this country. Shn we decide right now. We

2259
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:33,360
were talking about maybe Incredible Crisis,
maybe also Dekatonic game Boy, which is

2260
02:25:33,399 --> 02:25:35,879
supposed to be a good one.
What do you want? It's your special

2261
02:25:35,959 --> 02:25:41,840
day, you know I'm gonna have
both. And let's see, let's see

2262
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:45,319
what we're feeling. Way, I'm
expensing you pop Eyes. It's on backlar,

2263
02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:48,440
so you're getting some Popeyes delivered to
you. So you can't wait.

2264
02:25:48,719 --> 02:25:52,280
It doesn't come out of my wallet? Can can I like? It?

2265
02:25:52,600 --> 02:25:54,239
Is there like a drop down?
Or I can just say the picture of

2266
02:25:54,239 --> 02:26:00,239
your face? So that's cold.
That's cold. That's cold. Rob you

2267
02:26:00,760 --> 02:26:03,319
rob someone of your ask. No
you can't, No, you can't spend

2268
02:26:07,360 --> 02:26:11,840
spend that. We get some Popeyes
grab It'll be good all right tomorrow tomorrow

2269
02:26:13,399 --> 02:26:16,079
you too can play at home.
Go get yourself some pop Ye it's the

2270
02:26:16,159 --> 02:26:20,879
best chicken sandwhichever, it's really good. It's Thursday. We have a grabag

2271
02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:24,520
stream. We're gonna check out a
couple of games. Uh that that have

2272
02:26:24,600 --> 02:26:28,520
been popping off. We'll probably just
show off some senuas saga on the website

2273
02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:35,200
and then we're continuing our elder ring
adventures on up F this week as well

2274
02:26:35,319 --> 02:26:37,200
as a b c R. Maybe
we should do amount Rush Moore of Stealth

2275
02:26:37,239 --> 02:26:43,239
Games. He figure it out.
Yeah, I was gonna suggest maybe we

2276
02:26:43,319 --> 02:26:48,399
do an Xbox draft, but maybe
not. We could. Let's we'll decide

2277
02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:50,920
a draft could be fun though maybe
not an Xbox one, maybe some other

2278
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:54,360
kind of draft. Yeah. Uh
and then uh yeah, that about does

2279
02:26:54,399 --> 02:26:56,479
it for this week. Well.
Also, as we mentioned at the top

2280
02:26:56,520 --> 02:27:00,239
of the show, tickets are available
now to Giant Bomb at Night, Une

2281
02:27:00,280 --> 02:27:03,479
sixth at the bell Weather June ninth, June ninth, sixth, ninth.

2282
02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:09,680
Nice. Uh. We'll have guests
like Jason Schreyer on a Pierce parasally e

2283
02:27:09,799 --> 02:27:16,000
f wadwe Uh, Mike Minnaughty and
then Patrick as well as a bunch of

2284
02:27:16,079 --> 02:27:18,159
other guests. The clinic is that
kid that that won the contest to be

2285
02:27:18,239 --> 02:27:20,920
on stage, right, Yeah,
it's I think it's a make a wish

2286
02:27:20,959 --> 02:27:24,399
thing, Okay, you know,
it's like a tombson pizza contest or something.

2287
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:28,000
Yeah, he's like he's a kid
YouTube kid. But yeah, yeah,

2288
02:27:28,719 --> 02:27:33,040
we got a bunch of other guests. Uh uh yet to announce it's

2289
02:27:33,079 --> 02:27:37,239
gonna be fun stuff, fun stuff. Believe me, we've had meetings and

2290
02:27:37,479 --> 02:27:41,920
uh I've I've never seen Dan as
excited as he was earlier when I mentioned

2291
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:54,559
mister Mosquito. Right, yeah,
imagine him getting excited about something other than

2292
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:58,719
that's It's beautiful. Bless God,
bless you Dan. What we learned today?

2293
02:27:58,239 --> 02:28:01,719
We learned that maybe Jeff Grubb has
to dodge in ice cream if we

2294
02:28:01,799 --> 02:28:05,840
go out for ice cream. We
learned that Dan loves mister Mosquito. We

2295
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:11,760
learned about typing piss. I don't
remember what that was about. Grub was

2296
02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:15,079
trying to make the look stick feel
good. Maybe you say scribble not to

2297
02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:20,319
a Jason instead of scribbled Nazi.
We learned that games have changed because nipple

2298
02:28:20,399 --> 02:28:24,280
DLC is no longer a thing.
We learned that maybe old folks that are

2299
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:28,120
watching too many commercials and maybe they're
the ones that love Raymond. We also

2300
02:28:28,239 --> 02:28:31,639
learned that we're headed to a future
littered with as in games. Soccer rise

2301
02:28:31,719 --> 02:28:35,040
pretty cool for denying a dolbiad in
front of a game and Hey, we

2302
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:39,040
also learned that we're getting into our
fitness era, folks. I've been Jam,

2303
02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:43,079
he's been Jeff, he's been Jeff, he's been Dan and he at

2304
02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:48,360
home have been gorgeous today. Go
outside and touch some actual grass. Go

2305
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:52,760
go outside and lift a kettlebell,
do some squats, do some Hindu squats.

2306
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:56,680
Go for a run, Go go, go punt a football. We'll

2307
02:28:56,719 --> 02:29:01,000
see you next week. Love that
for another episode up Giant Bodcast. I

2308
02:29:01,079 --> 02:29:05,120
can't get this other music to stop. I'm sorry shutting that different frogether.

2309
02:29:07,520 --> 02:29:09,280
We're a freaky little dude that's been
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