WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:32.359 Thank you for listening to Depiction's Media Radio. Welcome to Policy Rights to show 2 00:00:32.560 --> 00:01:04.359 about government policy and human rights. Welcome back to Policy and Rights here in 3 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:10.879 Depictions Media Radio. I'm your host, Michael Cloggs, and we have a 4 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:19.799 recorded press conference from the United Nations with the Russian representative to the United Nations. 5 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:29.640 And I always remember this from growing up that Russia or then what was 6 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:36.040 the Soviet Union and the United States always being at odds that we were taught 7 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:42.560 how Russia was the evil ones and how communism is just so hateful, hurtful 8 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:52.000 to the Western way of life or as it were, the American or Canadian 9 00:01:52.040 --> 00:02:00.519 way of life. And is that really really true? Well, I guess 10 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:04.359 it depends on on here you ask, on which side you ask. But 11 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:08.439 the point is is that we have to allow for other sides of opinion to 12 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:15.080 come forth, other opinions to to help us form what is a true story 13 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:25.520 to what is going on in our world. And while the um the Russian 14 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:32.360 Federation news outlets and everything, we're denying entry into the United States so that 15 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:42.479 they could attend a press conference at the United Nations is seemingly kind of off 16 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:52.360 when when we first look at it. But if we allow ourselves to look 17 00:02:52.719 --> 00:03:00.400 at who they are through through a lens of trust and think about what they 18 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:05.199 are just simply trying to view a different part of the story so that they 19 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:13.960 can be told to the other people around them that instead of instead, instead 20 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.919 of that this country is evil, because the reverse story is also true, 21 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:27.639 that in Russian they could could be telling people how evil we are here in 22 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.960 the West, that we won't allow things to happen, that we are too 23 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:43.680 restrictive, and that well, the narrative it becomes, it comes to reverse. 24 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:52.879 And is it really true. Is the average person evil and wants to 25 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:58.159 hurt the the the people in the Russian Federation? I don't think so. 26 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:03.520 I don't think that's true. But when we started examine, when we only 27 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:10.639 get the point of view from the political figures at hand, that's where we 28 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:15.199 start to run into problems. Anyway, with all that being said, that 29 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:25.199 maybe the United States might have allowed the Russian networks in media networks and so 30 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:35.879 that they could report on what was being said. There are are things that 31 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:42.399 are happening in our world that the Russians have, the Russian Federation and their 32 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:47.600 government have a different point of view than the US, Canadian British governments have 33 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:55.399 about how things are being done, and they also have a different set of 34 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.600 allies, so it changes changes that narrative some and one one of those things 35 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:11.399 is is how Syria is being handled. Of course, the war between the 36 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:17.600 Russian Federation and the Ukrainian government, how that looks and is being played out. 37 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:27.079 And there are several other issues that in the next hour and a guess 38 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:35.240 about nine minutes, you're going to hear how the Russian Federation sees them versus 39 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:45.360 how our home governments actually see things going on. So why don't we listen 40 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:51.199 to what it is that they say with an open mind and maybe we might 41 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:59.279 start to hear some grains of truth happening that we can maybe kind of balance 42 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:06.319 things out a little bit. Does this mean that terror isn't happening and coming 43 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:15.199 from from groups in Iran? Does this mean that um Syria is still isn't 44 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:23.800 in trouble and the people still need aid. That's just two of the two 45 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:30.720 of the examples. And well as a third example, you know, there's 46 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:38.600 no denying that there are tanks running over, soldiers running around shooting at each 47 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:46.839 other in Ukraine and what we really need to see happening around the world is 48 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:53.920 peace happening. One other issue that m might be brought up in this particular 49 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:59.399 press conference is Israel and Palestine. So why don't we listen to what it 50 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:08.560 is the Federation has to say or especially on those particular four issues and form 51 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:15.079 an a new opinion about what may be having happening in the world and how 52 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:21.839 we might be able to bring about peace and end some of the war and 53 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:31.000 the fighting that is happening in our world right now. With the question and 54 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:43.680 the first goes to the UN Correspondent Association President, please Mariam Rahmatti, thank 55 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.600 you, thank you so much on the Alpha the Imitination correspond Association. Thank 56 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:53.879 you, Misa Minister for this based conference. A new question is you said 57 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:59.839 there, but Russia will not forget and will not forgive the US of denying. 58 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:05.120 Yeah, Russian journalists visas to come to the UN and follow your visitor. 59 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.560 What does it mean and can you elaborate on that place? Well, 60 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:15.120 it seems to me that today there was a statement delivered by our presentative and 61 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.959 today there was a statement from our presentative of the at the Committee and Information, 62 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:28.360 and of course you suspect that there would not speak a Russian right. 63 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.720 Maria has already at the Commitee and Information spoke at length in detail about this 64 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.639 issue. We believe that it is appalling what is transpiring here, All of 65 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:54.440 the conjurations about access to information, frame of the pressure, all those incantations 66 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.840 that were voiced by Western leaders, including of course the United States of America. 67 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:05.480 All of these were enshrined, of course in the Resolutions of the Human 68 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.840 Rights a Council of Decisions on the organization of a Security in Cooperation in Europe, 69 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.679 which were adopted in the early nineteen nineties, and at that time the 70 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:22.759 Soviet Union openly assigned on to those agreements. And now it has become inconvenient 71 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:28.039 for the West to have alternative viewpoints presence present, it is inconvenient for them 72 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:33.399 to residents of the planet, citizens of certain countries have access to facts, 73 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.200 that is inconvenient, facts which are not necessarily in line with the Western so 74 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:43.639 called narrative. Of course, the West fundamentally decided to trample upon media outlets 75 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.679 which are not subordinate to the West. Our envoys, ambassadors in various countries, 76 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.519 including in Washington, frequently provide specific data and information about discrimination against Russian 77 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:03.200 media outlets many years ago in France, for there is a denial of accreditation 78 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:09.480 for the Russian Art and Sputnik channels. They called these media outlets tools of 79 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:16.600 propaganda. Mister Kirby with respect to our journalists who were denied visa so to 80 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:22.279 participate in this part of our presidency, mister Kirby also said that to Russian 81 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:28.159 journalists are propagandists and nothing more than that. Without anything, they have nothing 82 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:33.240 to do. He said with American so called democratic of views, of freedom 83 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.559 of speech, of course, there's the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, 84 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:45.240 apparently means nothing in practice, and perhaps they would be useful to consider 85 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.799 how things are with frame of speech in the United States. I've heard that 86 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:54.759 Tucker Carlson has left Fox News. It's a curious news. What is this 87 00:10:54.879 --> 00:11:03.879 related to one can only guess, but clearly the wealth of views in the 88 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:11.919 American information space has suffered as a result. So turning to our reciprocal measures, 89 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.720 we will certainly take this inappropriate conduct by the US leadership into account, 90 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.639 the inappropriate conduct of the State Department. They took the decision there, and 91 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.399 we will take this into account when the Americans need something from us, an 92 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:37.159 idea thanking yourself for me, So I'd like to ask you your views also 93 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:43.559 done what's happening there and also about the involvement of the Varduna group with the 94 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.399 rabid support forces. We asked Hay the leader of this group, about the 95 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:56.519 environment of Vardua with him and his forces, and he did not deny it. 96 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.639 And just a last course, accountable this group is it to the Russian 97 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:11.320 A love our body? Who are they accountable too? Thank you well with 98 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.399 respect of Wagner, this is a private military company. We repeatedly touched upon 99 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:22.039 this issue, including in this room. A few years ago, our French 100 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:28.960 colleagues, the heads of Diplomacy and the European Union, through Joseph Barrell, 101 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:35.600 issued col crivances towards US visa VR links to Molly's Central African Republic, and 102 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.919 they created some kind of a mini scandal with respect to the fact that the 103 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:45.080 government of Molly under circumstances when the French began to withdraw their operations from the 104 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.600 country and began to close their military basis in the south where the main military 105 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.480 the bag terrorist rights remained and the government of Molly in order not to be 106 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:58.759 left without defenses, they turned to the services of a private military company called 107 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.440 Wagner. That is their right, as is something which the molly in Foreign 108 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:07.320 Minister announced during a General Assembly meeting, and nobody has made this any secret 109 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:13.480 in both the sector African Republic and MOLLY as well as Sudan and a number 110 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:22.039 of other countries whose governments, whose legitimate authorities turn to for such service as 111 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.480 they have their right to do so. Let's not forget, if you are 112 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.919 concerned about this issue, to take a look at the internet. Take a 113 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:35.159 look at the number of private military companies which exist in the United States, 114 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.279 they exist in Britain and in France. There are dozens of them, and 115 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:45.200 many of them have for many years worked directly on our borders, including inside 116 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:50.480 Ukraine. And this also gives rise to significant questions now with respect to what's 117 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.159 happening in Sudan. I think that certainly this is a tragedy. People are 118 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.919 dying, their threats to diplomats and there are significant threats. We are aware 119 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:05.679 of this. We are following the situation today. Representatives of UNISF have requested 120 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:11.799 our embassy to somehow host and accommodate their staff because of the fact that they 121 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.919 are not in a safe location. I'm not certain how this can be done, 122 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:24.559 but we will tackle the situation. Let us recall the developments with Sudani's 123 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:33.320 statehood, first in a singular and then Sudan and South Sudan, and this 124 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.080 was all transparent before our very eyes. When our US colleagues made one of 125 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:46.879 their foreign policy priorities the division of Sudan into two parts. They turned to 126 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:52.120 us for the then President of Amara Bashir, for us to persuade mister Brashier 127 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:58.759 to reach an agreement for the conduct of free elections on voluntary separation and division, 128 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.559 and we, frankly speaking, thought that the Sudanese people, the peoples, 129 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:09.960 should make that decision, and ultimately the division took place. It was 130 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:15.399 separated into two parts. A South Sudan was created, and the Americans, 131 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:18.360 as the initiators of this divorce, so to speak, should have done everything 132 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:24.440 possible to help these new two states coexist, to develop their economies, to 133 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:30.720 provide for the welfare of their citizens. But the Americans didn't like something. 134 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.279 I won't delve into the details, but they imposed sanctions both against the leadership 135 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:39.559 of Sudan and against the leadership of South Sudan, and subsequently there were constant 136 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:46.559 demands being put forward through the IMF, International Monetary Fund and so on. 137 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:54.960 So this is a form of geopolitical engineering and it doesn't bring about any positive 138 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.840 results. I would propose that the main conclusion be drawn from this crisis. 139 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:10.879 Let's not interfere in Africans negotiations amongst themselves. Let's not seek to resolve our 140 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:17.120 own African issues, and let's not add any demands from abroad which failed to 141 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:23.519 reflect the interest of those countries African solutions to African problems. Thank you, 142 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:29.039 Minister lever of Michelle Nichols from Reuter's, thank you so much for the briefing. 143 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.679 I just wanted to ask you a little bit further about the Ukraine grain 144 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:38.080 deal and whether Russia has a response yet to the letter that the Sexuary General 145 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:42.919 has sent to President Putin suggesting a way forward for the extension and expansion of 146 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.639 this Ukraine grain deal. And China is the biggest recipient of the Ukraine grain 147 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:55.120 under that deal, So has China asked Russia to extend the deal? Well, 148 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.639 on China, I will say right away that we haven't been discussing this 149 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:03.519 issue with our partners from the People's Republic of China, including probably for purely 150 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:11.279 pragmatical considerations, given that with the People's Republic of China we have a shared 151 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:18.039 border across which there's export and import going on, and the Black Sea space 152 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.400 is not at all necessary for China to procure our grain and grain in general 153 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:29.319 from other countries that are adjacent to the Russian Federation Kaalakstan, for example. 154 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:34.400 As for the writer that the letter of the Secretary General conveyed to President Putin, 155 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:40.359 I hope that it didn't leak, because this is personal correspondence between the 156 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.759 leadership of the United Nations and the leadership and the leader of the UN. 157 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:48.599 A leader of a Muan member states if this paper was I if this correspondence 158 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.000 was disclosed, that would not be very appropriate. This would be reflective another 159 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:59.200 of another attempt to exert pressure on a situation, and this is not acceptable 160 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.559 that a situation that has not been resolved and is brought to a dead end 161 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.480 by Western colleagues. I would recall twenty to July of last year, this 162 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.480 Black Sea Initiative was agreed upon, it was signed, and the text explicitly 163 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:19.000 stated that this pertains to the export of grain and ammonia, and nobody recalled 164 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:25.799 ammonia before the day before yesterday, even though yesterday Antonio Guterres told me that 165 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:32.480 on the global markets there are acute shortages of fertilizer, specifically from the ammonia 166 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:37.240 group. Nobody thought about this, and up until very recently the last moment, 167 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:42.920 and the way that this deal quickly transformed from a Black Initiati vaccine initiative 168 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.759 to the Black Sea Grain initiative. From a humanitarian initiative, it transformed into 169 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:55.079 a commercial initiative. This is also something that gives rise to a significant number 170 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:59.519 of questions which all of us have consistently been talking about for all of this 171 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.039 time. We continue to draw attention to this situation. If you looked at 172 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:15.279 the statistics, less than three percent of the entire volume of grain that traveled 173 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.839 from Ukraine the Ian ports, less than three percent truly reached the poor countries 174 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:23.720 that are on the relevant A list of the World Food Program There Ethiopia, 175 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:30.119 Yemen, Afghanistan, Sudan incidentally, and Somalia. Everything else the eighty plus 176 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:36.880 percent, and we'll reach to high income countries or middle income countries. We 177 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:42.559 discussed this, We draw attention to this, and then there was a blatant 178 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:49.279 attempt by Ukrainian colleagues as part of their activities with a joint coordination center in 179 00:19:49.319 --> 00:20:00.799 Nistanbul. They tried to create an artificial accumulation of of ships, and the 180 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:07.359 Ukrainian press there was there was there were reports about the Ukrainian regime taking bribes 181 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:15.559 to agree on the queue where a certain ship would be located, whether there 182 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:22.319 would be placed before others without those mechanisms brought taking mechanisms, we also drew 183 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.680 attention to the fact that concentrating completely and fully on the Ukrainian part of the 184 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:33.119 deal, our colleagues at the United Nations first and foremost forget that. Initially 185 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:38.960 Antonio Guterres proposed a package of that is inextricably linked, and he told me 186 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:47.720 yesterday that the UN Russia memorandum is not very concrete, and we signed on 187 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.240 to this because the mimorandum contains an obligation for the Secretary General and his staff 188 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.839 to do everything possible to lift obstacles to the export of Russian fertilizer in Russian 189 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:03.559 grain. I can't say that the UN has not been undertaking efforts in the 190 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.480 right direction. On the contrary, on Ted Secretary General and Gatonio Antonio guitarists 191 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:14.160 and the Deputy on the Secretary Channel for humanitarian Affairs has been They all have 192 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.759 all been advocating this. They have sought to try to reach agreement with the 193 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:22.319 countries that have announced illegitimate, you know, lateral sanctions against the Russian Federation, 194 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.799 but there has been practically no result. They will Selho's Bank, which 195 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:33.079 is the main bank that services are agricultural exports, it has been expelled from 196 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.759 the Swift system and there are no plans to bring them back in and then 197 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:42.759 exchange. The proposal for US are one off alternatives, so to three American 198 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:49.680 banks. The Secretary General had a request to replace Swift and to help rule 199 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:57.920 Selho's Bank service export operations for a few months. A few months elapsed, 200 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:06.200 and indeed one of the banks kindly consented to one operation to finance one operation. 201 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:11.400 But when we are told let's on that principle continue our efforts, that's 202 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:17.359 not serious either. You want to systemically resolve the issue of food shortages on 203 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:19.599 the global market, and then there's a need to simply bring our bank back 204 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:22.920 into the fold of the swift system. And if you want every time for 205 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:27.920 US and the UN Secretary General to run back and forth and to plead with 206 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:33.039 any given US financial structure, for them to be so magnanimous, then you 207 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:37.720 understand that cannot work and it will not work. There are still problems with 208 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:45.319 insurance and yesterday I was told by the Secretary General that the rates drop significantly 209 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:59.640 after his contacts with London Lloyd. But this is all focused on maintaining and 210 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.559 serving control over everything that's happening, not to prevent our fertilizer are grain from 211 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:11.000 freely reaching markets, and on the basis of market mechanisms have to prevent them 212 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:17.000 from entering certain countries. And this of course complicates the work of the World 213 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:22.200 Food Program which has been helping the poorest countries. In addition to what we 214 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:27.400 have been talking about, we have nearly two hundred thousand tons of fertilizer and 215 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:33.400 they were seized and the ports of the European Union. Last August, President 216 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:44.200 Putin publicly stated our position according to which those owner companies of the fertilizer provide 217 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:48.200 them on a voluntary basis free of charge to the poorest countries through the World 218 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:55.440 Food Program mechanism. This was back in August, the first consignment of twenty 219 00:23:55.519 --> 00:24:03.880 thousand tons from the two hundred thousand with Malawi only six months later. Now 220 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.519 it is with great difficulty that there are discussions of another nine consignments twenty four 221 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:15.079 thousand tons each for Kenya and Nigeria. And this all takes time. This 222 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:23.440 is all fraught with bureaucratic red tape, with additional costs. And with respect 223 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:30.480 to our part, I now return to that question our part of the deal. 224 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.799 Yes, we see that the Secretary General and his colleagues have been making 225 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:40.680 efforts, but there have been practically no results, unless we are to view 226 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.359 as results the hope, the glimmer of hope that instead of normal provisions of 227 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:51.440 the necessary products to global markets, there will be a need to each time 228 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:57.519 manually take the effort and plead with American and European ports branks and other structures 229 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:03.920 insurance companies to request that they be magnanimous. That's not the deal we reached 230 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:11.440 on twenty two July last year when we supported the Secretary General's initiative, which, 231 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:18.160 as he has reiterated, is package based in nature. A package has 232 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:26.359 many components. So unlike you, I cannot be so confident in describing what 233 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:33.599 is contained in the correspondence from guitarist Putin, because this correspondence is of course 234 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:38.000 not for the water audience, but it is intended for our president. And 235 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.440 the same letters were sent to Ukraine and Turkey as far as I understand. 236 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:49.160 But the reaction to this correspondent will arise after look the recipient reads it. 237 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.200 It doesn't sound like you see a lot of hope for an extension of the 238 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:10.640 Black Sea grind deal. You must be as ecologist so Russia, Victor Rich. 239 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:18.079 Today Joe Biden announced that he will run for a second term as the 240 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:23.160 president of the United States, and we have already heard comments from Republicans who 241 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.960 have also announced that they will have Donald Trump running for a second term, 242 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.759 and they say that they are seriously concerned that this could even lead to a 243 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:37.200 world World war. What is your view? What is our view of who 244 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.160 would be more profitable as the next president of the United States or is it 245 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:47.200 all the same to us? Valentine. Unlike journalists, who in their line 246 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:52.599 of duty must publicly analyze events that are taking place, the Russian government does 247 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:57.400 not interfere in the affairs of other states. Yes, thank you very much, 248 00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.480 thank you Foreign Minister. The briefing, it's Pamela Fault from CBS News. 249 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:10.839 You talked about yesterday and a year ago about the inadmissibility of the expansion 250 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.839 of NATO. And yet because of the war, Finland has become a member, 251 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:22.079 Sweden's next and the NATO Secretary General is supporting Ukraine's membership. Was it 252 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:30.720 a miscalculation and where do you see the reasons now for the war since the 253 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:37.240 NATO border with Russia has now doubled. Thank you. NATO never had any 254 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:42.359 intention of stopping and if you take a look at how events unfolded in recent 255 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:49.599 years, you'll see it. There was a very active process of merging when 256 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.880 it came to the military affairs of the EU and NATO, and they recently 257 00:27:55.079 --> 00:28:00.039 signed a declaration pursuit to which the EU is essentially delegating response ability for the 258 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:07.160 security of all of its members states to NATO and guaranteering the EU country territories 259 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.960 would be provided for the needs of NATO even though they're not members of NATO. 260 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:18.839 And Sweden and Finland were in the front wines of this. They were 261 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:26.240 increasingly taking part in NATO military exercises and other actions that were meant to synchronize 262 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:32.160 the military programs of NATO members and neutral states. So here, well, 263 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:37.160 it's just a nice figure of speech that Russia sought to prevent NATO's expansion. 264 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.480 It's not that we wanted to do this. We believed that it was necessary 265 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:49.200 to prevent this, but we've also promised us on several occasions. Nonetheless, 266 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:55.119 those were lies, as we all know now, just as they lied subsequently. 267 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.920 But the Minsk agreements and many other things, and then without so much 268 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:03.680 as blushing, admitted to the that those relize the claim that Russia tried to 269 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:10.000 prevent NATO's expansion and only sped it up as a result. As probably how 270 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.680 you see things or how you try to describe things from your end of the 271 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.519 situation. We also have our own takes and our own views, and the 272 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:26.519 unbiased assessments that our political scientists as well does those abroad make are that is 273 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.200 a NATO sought to break Russia apart, but in the end it only made 274 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.839 it stronger, brought it closer together. So let's not make any hasty conclusions 275 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:40.200 now as to what this will all end in We have clearly stated our goals, 276 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:45.799 and we very clearly reaffirm them, including in our Security Council statement yesterday. 277 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.799 As to what the US is seeking to achieve, well, I read 278 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.240 materials in the local press here, articles by analysts. I talked to some 279 00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:03.559 of my old friends political science as friends, and they are increasingly asking themselves 280 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.799 as well, what's going to happen next when it comes to our goals. 281 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:14.039 We laid them out very openly and honestly. As to the goals of the 282 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.160 US, NATO, the EU, whether it's pumping Ukraine full of weapons or 283 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:27.839 now we hear this ridiculous theory about making sure that Ukraine can successfully counter attack 284 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.960 now and then ask Ukraine and Zelenski to begin negotiations. This is the logic 285 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:41.279 of a schizophrenic. We want there to be no threats imitating to our security 286 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.279 from Ukraine from the terry tour of Ukraine, but these threats have been piling 287 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.839 up there for years and years, especially after the coup of February twenty fourteen. 288 00:30:51.400 --> 00:31:00.279 We also want for the people who consider themselves a part of the Ussian 289 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:06.000 language, part of the Russian culture, religion that they have been practicing their 290 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:11.480 whole lives through the Ukrainian Orthodox char Church. We want these people to not 291 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:21.240 have to face discrimination, persecution and the threat of extermination. Zelenski has some 292 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:30.680 adviser by the name of Podolak who has stated that we'll take back Crimea and 293 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:38.119 eradicate, eliminate everything Russian in Crimea. Is this what the US supports? 294 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:48.000 When American political figures and other figures to say that we cannot fail to support 295 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.920 Ukraine because Ukraine is fighting for our values and our democracy. Is this what 296 00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.559 democracies are? These the values for which NATO is prepared to fight to the 297 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:07.319 last Ukrainian For many years we have drawn everyone's attention to what has been going 298 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:14.799 on with minorities in Ukraine and the Russian minority in particular. Laws were adopted 299 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.759 prohibiting education in any language other than Ukrainian, although they did make an exception 300 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.880 for EU languages, which once again shows just how much this whole campaign has 301 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:32.319 targeted against Russian culture. There was a ban on media, both those broadcasting 302 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:39.400 in Ukraine from Russia as well as those who that belonged to Ukrainians but broadcast 303 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:45.319 in the Russian language and held opposition views. Millions of books in Russian have 304 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.240 been thrown out of library. Some of those were burnt in town squares, 305 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:57.480 just as the Nazis did back in their day. And practically all cultural contacts 306 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:02.880 between our countries have been as well Russian culture and what is happening. Take 307 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:09.400 a look also what is happening with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. We have addressed 308 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:15.000 the UN Secretary General, OC leadership and other institutions, and we did not 309 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:21.039 get a very strong reaction. And this is similar to what happened when the 310 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.279 coup took place in twenty fourteen. Will Be and began ask questions to the 311 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.440 French, the Germans, the Pools. We asked, how is it that 312 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.079 you promised you guarantee just twenty four hours before the coup that you would find 313 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.240 a settlement. You signed a document to the success to the suctent and they 314 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:45.400 just said, well, sometimes democratic processes can take on excessive forms and go 315 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.279 too far, and that's it. And the same approach was used to justify 316 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.960 and excuse any actions on the part of the Kiev regime, even as the 317 00:33:53.160 --> 00:34:00.880 US confidently continued to stay that they would continue supplying Ukraine what weapons to defeat 318 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:07.000 Russia because Ukraine is upholding the ideals of democracy and Western values. If this 319 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:10.119 is what you're fighting for, and of course I don't mean you personally and 320 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:15.360 specifically a bit. If this is what the West is fighting for, then 321 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.559 it should be all the more clear what we stand for and what we will 322 00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:28.440 oppose to the very end than thank you, Matthew Chance from miss Lavrov, 323 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.960 could you give us some details about what contact you may have had with US 324 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:40.760 officials about the fate of US citizens being held in Russian jails? Have any 325 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:46.239 contacts been had, have they've been sought? And also, secondly, there 326 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.159 have been prisoners swaps in the past. Can load? Yeah? Sorry, 327 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.880 there have been prisoner swaps in the past. What are you looking for in 328 00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:05.880 exchange? For Paul Wheelan and Evan Gershkovic on the agreement between presidents of Biden 329 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.159 president Putin, this is an agreement or add When they met in June of 330 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:15.599 twenty twenty one in Geneva, a special channel was created for discussions of issues 331 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:21.559 related to detain citizens of the Russian Federation and the United States and detained American 332 00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:27.719 citizens of the Russian Federation. I won't to open up any disclosing a secret. 333 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.320 If I'm to tell you that this channel did not provide for involvement of 334 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:38.159 journalists, and it also did not provide for a public disclosure of any situations 335 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:45.960 for the purposes of exerting pressure on serious, meaningful professional negotiations which are under 336 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:52.760 way in the Russian Federation. There are several Russian American citizens who are serving 337 00:35:52.840 --> 00:36:00.159 sentences for various crimes, including the individuals you have mentioned. I refer to 338 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:13.039 Paul Wheelan and Evan Gershkovic. They were detained on when they were committing a 339 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:22.639 crime, receiving material that is a state secret, and the vociferous pathos laced 340 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:29.280 statements about journalists by definition not being able to commit crimes or something which we 341 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.280 reject. There are many examples of this, and somebody has already done attention 342 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:43.880 to the situation when around Gershkovic there was a campaign that was unfolding. Nobody 343 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:51.199 mentions Julie Massange anymore. Nobody mentions our citizen, a journalist, Maria Bouzina. 344 00:36:52.239 --> 00:37:00.199 She spent two years in a prison here simply for engaging in journalist and 345 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.440 participating in the work of non government organizations. We have approximately sixty people here 346 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.559 who are serving sentences here and in most cases, the accusations are dubious, 347 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:19.079 and on a number of occasions, in the abduction of our people from Europe 348 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.320 from other countries, which the Americans do, on a number of occasions, 349 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:29.239 they didn't deign to comply with the requirements of the Bilateral consul Or Convention, 350 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:34.519 under which if they have any suspicions about Russian citizens, then they need to 351 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.519 be not abducted. It's done in Hollywood films. But they need to turn 352 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:43.920 to the Russian Federation and they need to lay out their concerns. So once 353 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.039 again I would like to state that the channel, but the discussion of these 354 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:53.800 matters exists and this is work that is not public in nature, and publicity 355 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:59.559 here will only complicate the process for reasons which are understandable, and there's no 356 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:05.880 need to tell you professionals about why. Well, thank you a minister here. 357 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:10.320 This has been the Turkish news agency Anadola. Recently, President the Turkish 358 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:17.679 President invited President Putin to Turkey for the inaguration of Turkey's first nuclear power reactor, 359 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.400 which was built by a Russian energy company. Thus, President Kittin plant 360 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.239 to visit Turkey on the twenty seventh of April. Thanks well, this will 361 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:34.719 be announced as soon as possible. I believe that presidents have an understanding about 362 00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:42.679 the importance of such a meeting. Just quickly, back to the Ukraine agreement. 363 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:49.159 I'm Caleb Moppin from RT. I'm asking Russia has repeatedly pointed out that 364 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.480 Ukraine is not fulfilling its obligations under the grain deal. And my question is, 365 00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:58.360 does Russia intend to withdraw from the deal or is there is there a 366 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:04.039 reason for staying if they're not going to fill their obligations. It's not that 367 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:10.199 Ukraine is not complying with their obligations. Ukraine has nothing to do with the 368 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:17.320 part of the deal that pertains to Russian fertilizer and Russian grain. These parts 369 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:27.280 of the deal are blocked by Western sanctions and and specifically to overcome these sanctions 370 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.000 and to lift the obstacles on the path to the export of grain and fertilizers 371 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:35.719 to the market. This is what the Secretary General is working towards. He 372 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.079 signed on in the memorandum, to do everything possible to achieve those goals, 373 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:46.400 and it seems that the impossible is being We have not yet seen that. 374 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.440 And with respects to the prospects of the deal. I think our colleagues have 375 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:55.800 mentioned this. Antonio Guterres yesterday conveyed a piece of correspondence to President Putin and 376 00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:01.840 this will be reported on and the response will be report The Czech president recently 377 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.480 made statements to the effect of Beijing doesn't want peace in Ukraine, that they 378 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:14.639 benefit from the status quo. What is Moscow's position on this? I can't 379 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:20.480 comment on this kind of a statement, which has nothing to do with the 380 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:28.880 work of a normal political representative. I do apologize. Joseph Barrell was mentioned. 381 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.719 You mentioned check here. I remember the European Union, which for now 382 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:40.039 exists, and Joseph Barrell announced that they that they would develop relations with other 383 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:46.400 countries on the basis of how those other countries relate to the Russian Federation in 384 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:52.519 China. This shows and this this is a reflection of the current mindset and 385 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:58.880 mentality of European diplomats with r Ce Ireland, there were nearly eighty thousand Ukrainian 386 00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.559 refugees currently in Ireland. Do you apologize to them for having to leave their 387 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.519 homes fleeing your war? And secondly, is China your friend? And if 388 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:14.960 it is your friend, why aren't they sending you weapons? Are why aren't 389 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:28.800 they sending you weapons China? Aren't? Aren't you know? This is a 390 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:37.000 laughter through tears because nobody takes an your pleasure from how the events transpiring affect 391 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:43.440 the lives of normal people. But the fact that the lives of ordinary people 392 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.480 needs to draw attention, need to be considered, not just when they're outside 393 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.440 of borders and when they present an inconvenience to host countries, but the lives 394 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.159 of ordinary people should be considered by politicians when these lives, for many long 395 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.920 years, on a day to day basis, through legislation and in practice, 396 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.679 are discriminated against, when they are intimidated and threatened. Nobody could care less 397 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:13.880 when we were drawing attention to the fact that these laws cannot be adopted. 398 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:21.840 The Ukrainian Constitution enshrines all rights for national minorities, political rights, religious rights, 399 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.480 linguistic rights, and the list goes on. And when they adopted a 400 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.239 law prohibiting and banning those rights, prohibiting the Russian Federation, Russian language and 401 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.519 banning those rights. At that point we are members of the Council of Europe. 402 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.119 We turned to the Venice Commission. There is this body which deals with 403 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:45.840 an analysis of legislation of member states of the European Council to show that it 404 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.639 aligns with European Convention. Council of Europe. Through this Venice Commission is shoot 405 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:55.880 a verdict that Ukraine needs to adopt a new separate law on national minorities. 406 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:01.679 They adopted this last December and this last day said that they're guarantees for all 407 00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:09.679 rights of national minorities in that in so far as as stipulated under existing legislation, 408 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:20.239 so insofar as they were dwindled down to virtually zero. So this is 409 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:29.039 completely arbitrary justice. Now turning to refugees in Ireland, I'm unaware. There's 410 00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:35.119 a great deal of information, including Western European Eastern European information media outlets, 411 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:40.280 that from all of them really needed and that they're not necessarily in such need. 412 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:46.360 There are some reports about somebody stealing something, or a wife leaving husband 413 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:52.280 or and so on. I don't want to insult anybody, but on artary 414 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.679 refugees began to appear a lot earlier. First and foremost, this is a 415 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.639 consequence of the war that the key of regime unleashed against their own people in 416 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:07.000 the East of the country. They unleashed the war only because of the fact 417 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.679 that the people of Crimea and the east of Ukraine refused to recognize the coup 418 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:17.519 and they told these guys, leave us alone, we want to determine our 419 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.000 affairs in our own way, and for this they were labeled terrorists and a 420 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.920 war was unleashed against them. Millions of people then fled to the Russian Federation. 421 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:31.639 I can't recall anybody here in this hall or and other other press conferences 422 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.760 with the participation of Western journalists being interested in this aspect of the situation. 423 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:42.679 And over the past year year and a half we've also been receiving refugees from 424 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.639 those regions which remain under the key of regime's control. And you are from 425 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:52.800 Ireland, it's very good because I from time to time I use this argument. 426 00:44:52.960 --> 00:45:00.920 If in Ireland the English language were to be banned, how would British 427 00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:06.239 view that? It is inconceivable, completely inconceivable. But in Ukraine the Russian 428 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.639 language can be banned and they can publicly say go back to Russia if you 429 00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.920 if you align yourself with the Russian culture. This is what Zensky said along 430 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:21.199 before our special military operation. I believe it was CNN. During an interview 431 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.480 on CNN, he was asked what he thinks of people who live on that 432 00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.960 side of the line of contact, and he responded, well, there are 433 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:37.679 people, there are species. And this leader of democracy World democracy continued, 434 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.679 if somebody in Ukraine feels themselves to be a part of Russian culture, my 435 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.119 advice, for the sake of the future of your children and your grandchildren, 436 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.960 go off to Russia. That is written in the text. And about the 437 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:57.440 Neo Nazi Azolf Regiment back in twenty thirteen in Washington, even in Congress there 438 00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:04.719 was it was specifically designated as a structure that should not receive American financing. 439 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:08.519 And he was asked about that, the Azov Azov Battalion who are marching with 440 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:14.960 the Nazi flags bearing a lot with SS division insignia. He said, well, 441 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.880 we have many of these. They are as they are full stop. 442 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:27.840 So those values which Zenianski has been upholding in the Western world in the war 443 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:37.639 against Russia, these values also include such things I think we I had hoped 444 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:45.440 we had long rid ourselves of. But a minute Europe once again embraced those 445 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:57.400 traditions that had been prevalent in in the past. Well, mister m Broon 446 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.280 has many goals like increase its goals all the time. But the main goal 447 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:09.320 in nineteen forty five was to prevent World War three, and for seventy or 448 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.400 seventy five years we've been able to you know, has been able to reach 449 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:20.039 this goal. I heard your speech yesterday at the Security Council and looks like 450 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:25.639 you're not confident. I don't think you're confident anymore that this institution can prevent 451 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:34.760 another World war. So my question, he's why you're not confident and what 452 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.519 the Secretary General does I have any goal because for example, Lula the president 453 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:45.079 of Brazil that you just you just visited Brazil, it's came up. It's 454 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:51.559 still a Christian thesis. Yeah. The question he is why the Secretary General 455 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:58.800 didn't is we're not seeing him doing the same thing the others do and coming 456 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:04.320 up with a plan. The General un he's not coming with a plan for 457 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:10.159 peace because you are not going to even h look at it, or he's 458 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:15.559 not doing it because he can't do it. Well, why don't you ask 459 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:22.920 him? I don't know. I can only tell you, but that's sorry, 460 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:34.280 okay. Uh. Regarding who it is that's calling on World War three. 461 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.480 President Biden. I won't be able to quote him precisely, but he 462 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:45.280 has said that if we help you create win, then we will prevent world 463 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:52.519 War three. If you analyze the statement of your own president, well, 464 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.320 do you or do you only listen to my statements in the Council Some time 465 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:02.920 ago, then UK Prime Minister list Trust said that she would not hesitate to 466 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:09.880 push the red button. France. I think it was Jean leeve Ludrea who 467 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:15.800 was the Foreign minister the time, and when he heard all of these statements, 468 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:22.599 he said that France also has nuclear weapons. And then the head of 469 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:30.960 the aviation forces of Germany has said that we're prepared for nuclear war. We're 470 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.880 not afraid of President Putin's threats. And this was all at a time when 471 00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.320 we had not said a word about World War three. I will recall that 472 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:44.039 it was US back during President Trump's who proposed that the US at the highest 473 00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:52.400 level and officially reaffirmed the Gorbachev Reagan's statement about Russia and the US or the 474 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.159 USSR and the US as it was at the time, are confident that a 475 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.920 nuclear war cannot be won and it must never be waged. And we proposed 476 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.840 this doing the same once again under Donald Trump, we did not succeed. 477 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:12.719 The US side, Well, if they were prepared to discuss it at all, 478 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.920 they had a number of caveats, which of course made it lose all. 479 00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:22.679 Meaning under President Biden are two presidents Biden and Putin made such a statement. 480 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:30.840 And then it was US once again who took the initiative to have a 481 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:37.239 similar statement about the inacceptability of nuclear war to be adopted at the highest level 482 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:45.159 by all five nuclear weapons states. So when this topic is raised, everyone 483 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:52.320 immediately begins pointing their finger that Russia, claiming that Russia's bringing the world to 484 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:58.800 the brick of World War three. Well, you know, we like to 485 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.599 say that everybody about what's bothering them the most. And so all of these 486 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:07.800 statements about well, if Ukraine loses, World War three is unavoidable. Like, 487 00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:15.599 I hope that the people making these claims are in their sound mind in 488 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:21.440 the end, that they show responsibility. Good Bush and Rea News. Two 489 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:28.559 questions, if you allow. The first has to do with the Israeli delegation 490 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:35.719 and the Jordan pr step for me today were their communications with Israel before the 491 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:42.480 meeting that could indicate that such a decision would be made by the Israeli delegation 492 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.599 to leave the meeting. And the second question has to do with the most 493 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:52.039 recent statement by the Deputy Head of the Defense of the uk who said that 494 00:51:52.360 --> 00:52:00.920 hundreds and thousands of muscles, including impoverished one with a partnershed iranium, have 495 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.880 already been sent to Ukraine. What is your response to such a statement regarding 496 00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:14.920 today's meeting, I cannot, unfortunately comment on the details because when we became 497 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:21.079 the President of the Council and discussed the schedule of meetings and the topics of 498 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:27.199 meeting, there were no objections to having the meeting on the Middle East, 499 00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:39.159 including Palestine. Today, today the representative of Israel asked rhetorical questions very emotionally 500 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:45.280 about how Russia would feel if there was an anti Russia meeting held on May 501 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.360 ninth, which is a victory day. I've been working at the UN. 502 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.920 I worked at the UN for ten years, and we held meetings on May 503 00:52:54.039 --> 00:53:00.000 ninth discussing all sorts of issues. We also held meetings and other holidays that 504 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.199 were important to other member states. That's just the nature of the organization. 505 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.599 If we exclude every single date that every member state would like to leave free 506 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:15.079 on a calendar. Well, you understand how very few days left to work 507 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:23.239 with. But the representative of Israel said that they could not take part in 508 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:34.679 an anti Israel event on such a day. And well, I think the 509 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:39.719 answer lies in the fact that this was not an anti Israel meeting. It 510 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:45.199 was a meeting how pursuant to an agenda item that has been on the Security 511 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:52.320 Council's agenda for decades, and the Palestinian question is one of the most protracted 512 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.840 conflicts that has not been solved, cannot be solved by anyone or anything. 513 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:07.920 And now the agreements Security Council resolutions are being avoided and Palestines are being promised 514 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:12.320 certain economic benefits in exchange for giving up their claims for an independent state. 515 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.800 So this isn't in the anti Israel events. As I stress in my statement, 516 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:25.039 the meeting seeks to ensure the implementation of the initial decisions made by the 517 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:30.519 UN that were meant to ensure the Palestinians right to create their own state and 518 00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:36.920 at the same time the right of Israel to security within its borders and a 519 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:43.599 lack of threats to its security overall. In the region. This is what 520 00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.920 the meeting was about, not condemning Israel. We also heard lots of criticism 521 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:52.960 today regarding those terrorist acts that are carried out against Israeli, as everyone is 522 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:58.480 well aware of this. So that is how I would answer your first question, 523 00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.639 and if you could remind me of the second, and yes, when 524 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:07.719 it comes to depleted uranium, we've already addressed this item repeatedly. Whoever may 525 00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:15.119 claim that depleted uranium is not radioactive and that it's not included in relative a 526 00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.760 list, well, there are lists, and then there are facts, and 527 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.599 there are interviews with people who suffered, for example, in the former Yugoslavia 528 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:28.639 from depleted uranium. You can find these interviews online on our television stations, 529 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:37.800 on Western stations as well in Italy veterans of the combat that took place. 530 00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:44.639 They are fighting the Milashevitch regime, as was said at the time, So 531 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:49.079 one needs to be aware of one's share of responsibility in this. And well, 532 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.840 the UK is on an islands, so maybe for them it's less important 533 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:59.599 where this depleted uranium ends up rating or not radiating whatever it may contain. 534 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:08.000 Lady, thank you, marm Amanda at CNBC after February twenty fourth by many 535 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:13.159 Talis, Russia is the most sanctioned country in the world. Do you think 536 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:19.880 Western sanctions are working? And can your country withstand more economic pressures? It 537 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:23.760 was a night's emotional principle. We've already adapted. We adapted rather quickly. 538 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:37.480 I remember back in twenty ten, I think Barack Obama said that Russia's economy 539 00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:49.039 was already in shreds. Well, if the desires there, and it seems 540 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:54.679 to persist and it doesn't change regardless of whatever administration is in power. We've 541 00:56:54.880 --> 00:57:00.199 long ago drawn the conclusion that we need to rely on our own efforts and 542 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:05.039 of those that we can reach agreements with. When it comes to those who 543 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:14.559 lie, who constantly deceive others and attempt to achieve a unilateral advantage by legitimate 544 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:20.000 means, we will no longer rely on them. Some Western companies that have 545 00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:22.760 been kicked out of Russia by their government, who complied with those government decisions, 546 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:29.079 are now trying to come back, and our government has commented on the 547 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:36.239 sation situation. We're not sure that we necessarily to address this right away. 548 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.400 Let the niche that has been freed up be taken up by our own businesses. 549 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:47.840 We can develop our own economy harnessing our own resources, material resources given 550 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:53.639 to us by history and by God, not through certain virtual services or artificial 551 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:59.880 domination of the dollar and dependency on the dollar. And by the way, 552 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.960 the fact that the US has launched the d dollarization process, and that this 553 00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:12.639 process is now with great alarm being analyzed, including by local political scientists and 554 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.400 economists, local US political scientists and economies. This is a fact. If 555 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:22.159 I recall, the share of the dollar in world transactions fell from fifty five 556 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.960 to forty seven percent, so it's some eight percent over the course of a 557 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:34.000 year. That's quite a significant drop. And the transition to national currencies and 558 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:39.519 bypassing the yend the dollar, the euro, and the transition to digital currencies 559 00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:46.039 is now irreverse abrolem. What happens with the innitary international monetary system going forward, 560 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.960 or including the IMF and the world bag that's a very big question. 561 00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.960 The process has been launched. The US has proven that they were not telling 562 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:02.400 the truth one for many decades. After Nixon's abolishment of the gold standards, 563 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.559 they claimed they said, well, don't worry, even without being backed by 564 00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:14.559 gold, this isn't our dollar. This is our shared common global currency that 565 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:22.320 will ensure the smooth functioning of all the mechanisms of the global economy. And 566 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:30.719 now that they have proven that they easily, at the drop of a hat, 567 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:36.920 can reject the very tenants that they have been advancing as the foundation of 568 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:45.519 the global economy, including fair competition and the sanctity of private property, a 569 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:52.800 rejection of unilateral protectionist measures, and so on and so forth. These are 570 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:58.599 all things that the globalization model was based on that the world essentially took up 571 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.639 and be on basing their own plans and carrying out their plans on the basis 572 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:12.360 of globalization. Whereas now globalization no longer has any prospects in the foreman which 573 01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:16.559 was conceived receiving a fragmentation, a regionalization, and these are processes that we 574 01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:22.440 are feeling and are actively participating in as part of the Shanghai Cooperational Organization, 575 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:29.360 the Eurasian Economic Union, agreements between the Eurasian Economic Union in China, and 576 01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:37.360 within bricks where President Lula, who has been mentioned today, is interested in 577 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:43.039 preparing for the upcoming summit that will be held in the summer, preparing a 578 01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:52.480 concept policy notes about how to gain independence from the whims of those who have 579 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:59.440 been governing the international financial system so far, Registry with China's Central Television. 580 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.039 First of quick follow up on the grain deal. You just talk a lot 581 01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:07.760 about the nature, whether it's a commercial or humanitarian. Do you think that 582 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.280 Russian has been food in the beginning to sign this deal? And my question 583 01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:19.400 is you talk a lot about a new world order which has been resonated yesterday 584 01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:25.719 by the member states like Brazil. Can you tell us why the international multipolar 585 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:31.239 world order is better than the current one, especially for the rule based order 586 01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:35.880 by some of the Western colleagues. And the most importantly, how you're going 587 01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:42.400 to persuade your Western colleagues to believe that. Thank you shoot well on the 588 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.239 deal. I will reiterate that it was not called the grain deal. It 589 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:52.239 was called a Black Sea initiative, and in the text itself, that text 590 01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:58.760 itself of the agreement stated that this agreement applies to the expansion of opportunities to 591 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:07.360 export grain and fertilizer. No, I don't suspect that Secretary General. I 592 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:13.800 certainly can't expect him of having tried to have a fooled us, of having 593 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.360 being deceptive when he proposed a yearly one hundred percent certain that he acted sincerely. 594 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:22.800 I know Antonio Gutarsh very well, and I can assert this with confident 595 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:29.559 confidence. It's another matter that his honest and persistent efforts, which were geared 596 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:37.880 towards persuading those who imposed sanctions to make an exception at least for agricultural export 597 01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:45.760 of grain and export and fertilizer, these efforts, unfortunately were unproductive, which 598 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.320 I spoke about at length to day. Already now turning to the question of 599 01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:55.159 how to persuade Western colleagues, how to convince them of the importance of forging 600 01:02:55.199 --> 01:03:04.000 a multipolar world order, I will not be persuading them. We have been 601 01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.519 setting out our position, the People's Republic of China, Brazil, many of 602 01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:14.039 others have been setting out their positions, and we have been proposing that we 603 01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:17.639 base ourselves beyond what is enshrined in the United Nations Charter, that we all 604 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:23.159 have equal rights, and that we all need to strive to achieve a balance 605 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:29.519 of interests and to collectively resolve global problems. And probably the best way to 606 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:36.440 persuade Western countries of the fact that the multipolar world order is already taking shape 607 01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.679 is simply not to get in the way of a historic process. They are 608 01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:45.719 trying to intervene in this process by leveraging sanctions against the Russian Federation naturally, 609 01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:52.360 which nobody had ever seen or could even imagine. But this is a matter 610 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:58.280 that has been resolved for us. We have every opportunity not to depend on 611 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:02.840 this kind of conduct which has demonstrated of the Western colleagues, who have demonstrated 612 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:09.000 themselves not to be worthy of negotiating with or reaching agreement with. I've heard 613 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:14.639 about semiconductors being prohibited, those sanctions being imposed on China. They're no longer 614 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.480 allowed to sell them. And at the same time their demands of South Korea 615 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:26.079 that it not replace the replaced semiconductor of revisions from Europe in the US with 616 01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:31.039 its own supplies. Though what their preparations are underway for a new round of 617 01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:36.519 a war for global dominance, or more accurately, a war to attempt to 618 01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:44.039 maintain global dominance. This can probably slow down the natural process of the establishment 619 01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:48.480 of a multipolar world order, but not for long. At the historic level. 620 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:54.760 I don't think that will succeed. All of these claims and grievances. 621 01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:01.960 As Joseph Barrell mentioned the heavenly garden as he views the West surrounded by Jungles. 622 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:09.519 While beyond this being racism and Nazism, this is a reflection of that 623 01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:15.119 very same philosophy which is nefarious, malicious for all of human kind, including 624 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:18.679 for the bearers themselves of this philosophy. President Makron after a visit to Beijing, 625 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:21.480 since we're talking about China. After the visit to Beijing, he said 626 01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:29.000 that Europe needs to be independent. He said that there need all allies, 627 01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:32.360 there is no need to follow the will of the US in every issue, 628 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:38.400 and he mentioned Taiwan that it is not a European the theme. Of course, 629 01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:43.519 parathetically, it meant that you the supposition was that Ukraine is a European 630 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:47.320 issue, so it meant that your Ukrane was aging war through the Ukrainians. 631 01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:53.840 But after Makron said this, Burrell, I believe it was just yesterday advanced 632 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:59.920 an initiative. The initiative for the European Union to send its military naval forces 633 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:06.960 is to the Taiwan. Straight what does this mean? This means that in 634 01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:15.840 Europe, either those who support Burrell's logic, either they have lost in any 635 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:21.079 shred of independence that had left or they didn't reach an agreement there about what 636 01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:27.039 their united position would be. I have digressed from your question, but of 637 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:33.679 course the multipolar world is objectively taking shape, and what the ultimate configuration will 638 01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:39.519 be, that's something I don't know at this point. Many, including yesterday 639 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:44.039 during the meeting, mentioned that the G twenty, that the G twenty could 640 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:49.039 become some kind of a template for a governance mechanism. I think that it 641 01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:55.960 would be wiser to base ourselves in the United Nations Charter, with the understanding 642 01:06:56.119 --> 01:07:00.679 that in order to reflect new trends, to reflect new realities, there will 643 01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:04.440 be a need to initiate Security Council reform and possibly ultimately this could be something 644 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:11.679 having to do with reflective the composition of G twenty or something reminiscent of the 645 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:19.760 G twenty. But definitely there needs to be the eradication of the manifestation of 646 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:27.559 the clear underrepresentation of African and Latin American countries. H. Maria, this 647 01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:31.440 is me. I'm Mamadi Afghanistan International. I have a one question regarding Afghanistan. 648 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:35.000 As you know, the Taliban recently have banned women from working at the 649 01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:40.760 UN offices. The Secretary General is traveling to do what to meet with the 650 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:46.239 special envoys regarding Afghanistan. What do you think the next step of the international 651 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:53.000 community be regarding Afghanistan? And also one question about JCPLA. Do you think 652 01:07:53.079 --> 01:08:00.639 JCPOA is dead? Thank you, suld An Afghanistan. Yes, we supported 653 01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:05.599 the Secretary Channel's initiative to the first and second of May to convene a meeting 654 01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:15.000 in Doha special representatives including a large number of Western countries. All of last 655 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:21.439 year and during this year, we have been addressing Afghanistan in such formats as 656 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:27.960 neighbor countries. Just recently there was a meeting held of foreign ministers of Afghanistan's 657 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.920 neighbors in Uzbekistan. Last year there was a meeting held in the People's Republic 658 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:40.239 of China, and in parallel there have been there has been the quartet Russia, 659 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:45.239 China, Pakistan and Iran. They have been working and we invited India 660 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:54.359 as well. We want this quintet to be constituted as something of a core 661 01:08:55.039 --> 01:09:00.079 for the format of neighboring states. We have maintained the Moscow former of consultations. 662 01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:06.399 Incidentally, the United States in the past had participated, then they became 663 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:14.680 capricious and they began to complain. After the developments in Ukraine, they withdrew 664 01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:18.119 from the format. Then it was a Russia. There was the Trio which 665 01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:24.760 was joined by Pakistan. This format was also cast aside and dissolved, but 666 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:30.680 somehow to bring the West into the process to facilitate settlement in Afghanistan. There 667 01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.399 is a conference being convened by the Secretary General which we will participate, and 668 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:40.800 of course we think that the West should not step away or walk away from 669 01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.520 discussions, because the West has had a presence for two decades in Afghanistan and 670 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:55.079 it has done nothing to improve economic opportunities in Afghanistan. Narcotics production has skyrocketed 671 01:09:55.319 --> 01:10:00.000 there and the pace remains at staggering high level. The Taliban have tried to 672 01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:05.279 prohibit this and we are support this. But for Afghanistan's development, first and 673 01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:12.600 foremost, money is necessary, which the United States has ceased. They have 674 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.279 arrested the assets and they refused to release them for the needs of the population. 675 01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:21.119 And not only does the West need to restore those assets Afghan assets to 676 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:25.479 the Afghan people when the conditions are right for this, but they also need 677 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:31.239 to consider compensating for the damage wrought on Afghan statehood, Afghan economy and at 678 01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:40.039 the Afghan population by themselves. We believe that the Taliban our reality, reality 679 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:42.520 on the ground, and there's a need to talk with them. At the 680 01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:51.960 same time, we will not recognize this UA government until they comply with their 681 01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:58.760 honor, their own pledges, which at the international community has been have been 682 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:06.000 recognized, specifically until they ensure inclusivity in the governing structures, not just inclusivity 683 01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:11.560 at the ethnic level, but also the political level. Presently in the Taliban 684 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:15.159 government as they tell us they're Uzbeks, Tajects, Hazaras. That's true, 685 01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:21.840 but all of these ethnic representatives of all Taliban at the political level and for 686 01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:29.079 civilian society, of course, it is very important for there to be strong 687 01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:34.399 representation in political forces and for this to be provided, and there are other 688 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:41.199 criteria for a legal representation. Everybody talks about the key human rights requirements, 689 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.560 including the rights of women and girls. Of course, this will be discussed 690 01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:51.279 during the conference which Antonio Guts is convening. That's not a question for us. 691 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:59.279 We believe that this is an agreement and the resumption of this was this 692 01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:03.319 an agreement was arrived up long ago and right now for some reason, European 693 01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:10.520 countries have lost enthusiasm. They're no longer enthusiastic, and the Americans, to 694 01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:15.920 various sources, have already anonymously been stating that they need to try to find 695 01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:20.119 something else. I don't know. It seems to me that this is a 696 01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:27.479 huge mistake to let the opportunity slip away, The opportunity to revive this neil 697 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:31.600 should not deal should not be allowed to slip away, especially given that relations 698 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:39.000 are normalizing among Arab countries. Between Arab countries and Iran. Saudi Arabian particular 699 01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:43.960 support of the People's Republic of China has restored relations. This is a process 700 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:49.039 which is very healthy and in principle we believe that in the Gulf region certain 701 01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:56.159 mechanisms for cooperation, transparency, confidence buildings should be established. However, at 702 01:12:56.199 --> 01:13:01.479 the present juncture, it's not up to Iran or US or People's Republic of 703 01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.920 China. The full revival of the deal does not depend on any of us. 704 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:12.159 Those who destroyed it need to revive it. If there's any chance, 705 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:19.399 then that would be in that form. Based on our assessments that document which 706 01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:29.119 was agreed upon last year, this document reflects that objective attempts to introduce new 707 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:35.920 requirements which did not exist in the initial JCPOA text. These attempts, of 708 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.439 course, complicate the process and they reflect that same policy which we were already 709 01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:51.000 talking about today, to attempt through blackmail or to secure unilateral advantages from the 710 01:13:51.039 --> 01:14:00.199 Arabic daily. Mister minister, you spoke about the golden billion. About golden 711 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:04.000 billion, you spoke about it, and do you anticipate in the future to 712 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:10.399 see that the world is not only one golden billion, but eight golden billion. 713 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:15.079 And the second is about the two state solution. Everyone repeated this slogan 714 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:19.760 two state solution. You know, I think, do you still believe there 715 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:29.920 is any chance we are chance to have an independent, contiguant, sovereign Palestinian 716 01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:39.279 state? Thank you New Years. Well, I think that we shouldn't give 717 01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:45.680 up. We are currently bearing witness to certain attempts to to remove the political 718 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:56.119 aspects of the Palestinian question and to focus on the proposals of certain economic benefits 719 01:14:56.399 --> 01:15:00.560 for the Palestinian people. Apparently this is a something of a bribe here. 720 01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:08.079 You have financial means, but how about you forget about independence, about statehood? 721 01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:13.000 And I can't understand the logic here. Today there was a mentioned was 722 01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:17.000 made the permanent representative of Israel to the United Nations, and in his emotionally 723 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:24.279 charged statement, he defended the right of Israel to have a Jewish state. 724 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:30.239 But if that's the case, then what about the Palestinians. Then they need 725 01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:33.359 their state. This is a recognition of the fact that the two state solution 726 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:41.520 is the only way to undermine the essence, undermine Jewish essence of Israel, 727 01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:50.840 which Israel is defending. So I do believe that common sense will prevail and 728 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:58.399 cooler heads will prevail, and when an opportunity will emerge not to consider electoral 729 01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:04.159 considerations, then there will be a possibility to deal with this meaningfully. Why 730 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:11.119 how can we not consider electoral issues, what situations? When every two years 731 01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:18.079 one focuses on elections and reelections on a billion I mentioned yesterday. Of course 732 01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:25.439 this is arrogant, it is impolite. What is inscribed in the resolutions of 733 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:30.039 narrogant of NATO and the European Union. It's pure arrogance. These are all 734 01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:38.199 the people who say black lives matter, Yes, yes, thank you. 735 01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:51.760 May greetings mister minister Lucis, are you personally involved in any of the negotiations 736 01:16:53.560 --> 01:17:00.119 that would release prisoners in America and in Russia for example. Well, Evan 737 01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:05.960 Kersh covid, how you personally involved? And I have a little quest, 738 01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:15.399 which is it looks like the Ukraine ignition in Jomato is not very realistic, 739 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.159 despite what some people have said, but as a member of the EU, 740 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:28.520 it may be more feasible opinion on that. As for the first question, 741 01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:34.920 the answer is simple no. Regarding the second question, well, I can't 742 01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:41.840 make a decision on behalf of the EU, but we see how that organization 743 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:48.800 is becoming militarized at a record rate and turning into an aggressive entity with the 744 01:17:48.920 --> 01:18:00.079 declared goal of containing the Russian Federation. If you look at how regularly the 745 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:08.560 President of Serbia states his concerns about the demand to join and sanctions against Russia 746 01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:14.079 and recognize the independence of Kosakvo, disregarding and ignoring the fate of the Serbs 747 01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.039 who live in the north part of that territory and have been living there for 748 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:25.680 hundreds of years. This is what the EU looks like currently. If you're 749 01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:30.520 carrying out an anti Russian policy, then you have excellent chances. But i'd 750 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:38.479 be curious to see at the situation with Serbia, which I just mentioned, 751 01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:45.159 with Turkia, who for many years has been in negotiations, there are those 752 01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:55.000 in the EU who do want to adopt to allow Ukraine to join on an 753 01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:59.079 expetited basis, and that will just show that it's nothing to do with meeting 754 01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:06.239 criterias. A geopolitical game, pure and simple of tacking on as much territory 755 01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:11.880 as possible while it's up her grabs. Well, that's for them to decide. 756 01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:16.039 But the fact that there is very little difference currently between the EU and 757 01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:20.920 NATA, well I have no doubts regarding that fact, especially since the EU 758 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:26.359 and NATO recently signed a declaration where they openly stated that we will be ensuring 759 01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:33.199 the security of your European Union and the EU expressed recognition, and there was 760 01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:38.159 also a statement to the extent that this would all be important for our billion 761 01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:45.920 And that's that's it. Yeah, I got to say who I am, 762 01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:55.880 I thank you, thank you very much, mister minister, And I know 763 01:19:56.119 --> 01:20:00.359 I speak on behalf of all of us that when you're in New York, 764 01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:06.920 we always happy to have you here answering questions from us, either the letter 765 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:15.319 from the Associated Press. UM, as you look ahead to the rest of 766 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:29.640 this year, what are your expectations for the state of peace and security in 767 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:41.000 the world. Do you see prospects for UM negotiations or an end to the 768 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:48.920 Ukraine conflict? To other conflicts? Yemen, Libya? Um, you set 769 01:20:49.079 --> 01:21:02.000 Sudan? Um, what what are your hopes and expectations? Well, I'm 770 01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:11.000 not paid for hopes and expectations. We have to tackle concrete goals and those 771 01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:19.319 currently pertained primarily to ensuring the security of our country and preventing Russians, who 772 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:26.520 for centuries have been living next door to us, to be discriminated against an 773 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:31.720 exterminated physical exterminated as they publicly claimed by the Key of Regime, as the 774 01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:42.640 Key of Regime officially proclaims itself. As for the rest, well, politics 775 01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:45.880 are a special kind of beasts. In two thousand and three, some months 776 01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:53.159 after the beginning of the unlawful war in Iraq, George Bush Junior announced that 777 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:57.199 democracy had one in Iraq in two thousand and three, and what are your 778 01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.760 expectations from Iraq? Now? I had have no idea. The same goes 779 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:17.600 for Libya. When President Obama decided to lead from behind and put the Europeans 780 01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:24.560 up front. Well, we saw another grave violation of a Security Council resolution 781 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:33.239 which only called for establishing a no flight zone to prevent Kadafi's aviation for flying, 782 01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:35.760 and it was not flying, but then they went and bombed the whole 783 01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:41.479 country. It now lies in ruins. And what Obama said about Russia has 784 01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:46.000 now happened not to the economy of Russia but to a country called Libya. 785 01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:53.720 And I hope that there will be progressed on Yemen since you mentioned Yemen, 786 01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:59.760 and today I noted in my statement that we value the efforts made by Saudi 787 01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:10.079 Arabia in this regard to establish direct dialogue. I won't even be guessing with 788 01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:14.520 Ukraine. The issue is not that there's a certain timetable. Maybe in other 789 01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:23.439 countries there are timetables. I remember on Libya again, France repeatedly called conferences 790 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:28.880 at which it was decided that the elections would be held in four years and 791 01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:34.399 three months. And this was happening since twenty fifteen, and nothing has changed 792 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:40.039 in that regard. So we need to simply one must keep working on upholding 793 01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:45.920 one's lawful of rights and doing this honestly, expliting one's motives, which is 794 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:50.680 exactly what we did regarding our actions as part of the Special military Operation, 795 01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:55.560 and that we also wanted, in a spirit of reciprocity to hear the same 796 01:23:55.640 --> 01:24:00.119 thing from our Western colleagues. What goals are they pursuing in Iraq, in 797 01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:08.479 Libya and in other places where they are active in one way or another. 798 01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:17.479 But one must remain optimistic this is all unavoidable. Although they do say that 799 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:21.279 a pessimist is a well informed optimist. I think that's how the same goes. 800 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:32.159 But nonetheless, we will hope that the attempt to unify efforts will prevent 801 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:38.279 prevail as well as the understanding that breaking up the global community into one billion 802 01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:44.239 and seven billion is the wrong way to go. Placing one above others is 803 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:53.479 also wrong, no matter what traditions of aristocracy, of lords and other high 804 01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:59.359 titles. This might be justified by we all live on the same planet, 805 01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:03.039 and we spoke just now about our World World War. Who wants this? 806 01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:10.039 Well, it seems that some are prepared to go to the end. If, 807 01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:15.520 once again, to quote statements made by some, if Ukraine wins against 808 01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:21.159 Russian, then we will avoid a third World War. Well, that's a 809 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:30.359 simple tidy idea that currently is replacing a normal conversation between responsible political figures. 810 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:33.199 I also wish you success in your work, your profession, which is very 811 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.920 important indeed, and once again appeal to you, given that there are a 812 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:43.039 fewer Russian journalists this time than that there could have been, to help compensate 813 01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:51.600 for this lack in numbers by providing broad coverage of everything that you've heard for 814 01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:59.960 us today. Thank you very much, Well, thank you for listening today. 815 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:02.840 You've been listening to policy rights here in Depictions Media Radio. I've been 816 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:55.600 your host, Michael Clogs, and please click on that subscribe button. 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