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Welcome to you, softcore History.
Welcome back to softcore History. I'm your

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host for the week, damn Regester
and that's always. I am joined by

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my two co host, Jake Goldman
and Rob Fox. What is up boys?

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Hello? Nice gun? Not much
like our salt gun? Spread it

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on. I ain't here the crickets
since pulled this bad boy out. Not

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a chirp, so that single chirp. Have you ever used a bug of

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salt gun before? Oh? Shout
us to a Gus one of the listeners.

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He sent this in appreciate it.
Yeah, bug of salt. It

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shoots like a shotgun, sprays.
Oh nice, poor you gotta pour table

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salt in there. I don't know
how sea salt pink salt. I don't

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know. I don't know how the
chunky salt would do, but the sea

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salt, and it's just like so
I wanted to use it on like when

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the crickets are flying like you're shooting
ski. Oh that's kind of sick,

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right, no, right, yeah? Can we hang out for like an

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hour after this episode. I also
wanted to get an air rifle that shoots

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like the metal babies. Yeah,
and like do just like a marksman ship.

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Just play like metal Sights, Iron
sights, you know. Yeah,

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just get real old schools. Yeah, just get Marksman on the Fucker's Crawling

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Dove season. Like we could totally
just have a little cricket skeet day and

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like make a little barbecue cricket,
wrap him in bacon, put cricket poppers.

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Yeah. I lived in Texas for
Less World Order, making us try

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to eat cricket bars. Yeah,
dude, if you kill him first,

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it's cool. They're gonna make you. Yeah, if you hunt them,

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it's fine, it's it's alpha.
If you hunt them, it's a great

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time for our or at least my
friend Eli. Yeah right, yeah,

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Golden Cricket. There's a free read
for you, just getting ahead on the

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New World Order, just like beating
the New World Order to want you to

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eat bugs. Elis a conspiracy theorist, to the point that he probably did

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start his nutrition company because he's like, this is kind of where the world's

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gonna get in sall, where the
market was going. Yeah, yeah,

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see what happened, and need to
cash in on it. All they acquired

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by the Illuminati, all the people, yeah, theyll all the people in

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the Illuminati, like steak and beef
and stuff like that, uh, scallops

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whatever. They've already all already reached
their peak tastiness. So what they need

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to do is like, they can't
can't taste any better for them in their

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own mouths, so they have to
increase the taste gap right for it to

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for it to right, they have
to they have to now be satisfied not

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only by the taste, but by
how little, how terrible the taste everyone

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else is getting. Yeah, it
probably really that's why skirts steak got so

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expensive, because they found out how
tasty the poor cuts were and they're like,

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damn it, we gotta raise those
prices. Yep, d damn it.

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These poor has been eaten so good. Yeah, their strife has made

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their cuisine better. How like,
yeah, classic, it's all sizzle though,

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it's all fajitas. No, No, it's not true. Shit,

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it might be true, It might
be true, it might be true.

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I don't give a fuck. I
think the popular already of fahitas have made

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scarts steak go up. Yeah,
definitely has. When people realize, oh,

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I can buy a cast iron skillet
and do this myself at home.

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It's a little to show me.
I want to go to a restaurant.

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Oh cool, you got faitas.
Everyone's gotta look very rarely what our fahda

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is to be honest, yeah,
I never do. There's better dishes.

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Yeah, Like, hey, I
would rather not assemble my meal. Yeah.

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Doing all the work for them,
it's like fun do It's like you

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do it a couple of times they're
like, I'm just they're warning me.

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They're giving me health code like guylines
here, don't cross conterminate. Like okay,

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man, maybe you should just cook
it a rebate almost. Yeah,

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you get a little bit. It's
like you want to to tab you want

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to patacos together. Yeah, Like
imagine if someone it's like tableside guawk,

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but they just dump all the guak
ingredients on the table. I thought you'd

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like them. You make the guawk. Here's a knife cut the on any

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bitch, Yeah, I would.
Actually, you know what, we gotta

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take it a step further on fahitas
and be like, here's an open flame

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and a skillet and raw. It's
like skillet you do it. Wait,

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that's a Korean barbecue. Korean barbecue. Shit, that's different flavor profile.

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I bet we could get a bunch
of Texans to be in a Mexican barbecuet

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morons like easily good. Yeah,
dude, we just get them to cook

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their own damn phahitake your own Philly
cheese steak. We also get them to

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make their own marks. We open
a restaurant with no overhead. It's just

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here's the raw ingredients that everything you
want. Have fun, bring your own

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ingredients. Isn't this just your fucking
sauce truck? That was That was box

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ideas where you it's biof You bring
your own food and they have just every

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sauce known to man. And that
truck existed here in Austin and went out

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of business pretty quick. Yeah,
it was called a Sauce Obyssey. Anyway.

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Yeah, let's get down the business. Get down as tax. Make

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I think it has been three years. I think we've only missed once.

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Yeah, we forgot to sell right
at three year anniversary. We're pretty good

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at that. Yeah. I think
we just throw a big Christmas party,

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Yeah at Boomers obviously at Boomer's.
True it might maybe we do a fan

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meet up at Boomer's Yo, that's
the only appropriate place to have a fan

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and then we maybe I'm not saying
we're gonna do this, but what if

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we had a bart up okay,
and we got on where when what?

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Dude, it's cheap as fuck.
It's fine, you know. If we

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have fifteen fans show up and we
go to Boomers and we can pay for

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we can actually talk about this off
air because I have a connection with that

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as well. Oh, I talked
to the bartender. No, no,

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no, a Boomers. It's something
with something else. But to be on

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when wear what whatever, blah blah, that would be the weakest one,

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it's like, uh app boomers this
podcast buying some drinks. I would be

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so fucking drunk at that, not
even because I'm like pirty they're padcast,

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because I'd be like, oh my
god, I gotta talk to so many

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fucking people today. It would be
hilarious, nah man, Actually yeah,

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because people just show up for the
drinks. I would just be like getting

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drunk. Like, yeah, it's
like when TFM used to have those the

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tailgate that one year and I was
the only fucking writer. Basically, it's

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like me and Boosh and you.
I don't even know if you were there

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a lot, but I was like
I was there. Yeah, we were

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like shoot up. We were the
only ones that I would talk to people

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because everyone else was an awkward turd
and I would just get fucked up because

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I just couldn't take talking to that
many strangers. Yep. That's my job.

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Yep, Yep, that's my job. Yep, that's what I do.

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And then they like relied on me
and Boost to bring women to the

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tailgate. Yeah, it's like,
well that they were all married and yeah

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I was not at that point.
The funny thing is you can still bring

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your wife to the down you can. Yeah, and it was always a

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bit trying to bring everything. But
regardless, you know what Patreon dot com,

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slash software History software history dot com. We have new merch, new

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merch brand new two shirts. We
got three shirts. Three shirts. That's

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right, then no one will remember
you T shirts we have. We kind

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of try to cash in on the
Roman Empire shirt if you like that mean

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by it. Yeah, it'll be
irrelevant by the time that gets shipped to

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your door, but you'll always have
the tea. We're in the second stage

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of it now. Where so I
get served a lot of history articles on

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my feeds just because I read a
lot of history stuff and for this show

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in because I like history, read
everything. And now every single historical outlet

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or or even like normal outlets at
right history stuff sometimes like Wall Street Journal

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or The Atlantic and stuff like that, every single one is like historian explains

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why why men are still so obsessed
with the Roman Empire. It's like even

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the Onion had a fucking thing.
It's so late, but we we're gonna

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be quicker with the T shirts.
We should have printed this two weeks ago

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and probably actually sold itself. Yeah
we didn't. We didn't think about it

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then, though. We're gonna be
better about that. We're gonna be better

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with new design. Yeah, Dan, we're talking about how late it was.

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I was like, man, you
told me about it last night at

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seven and we got it up at
like ten am or whatever. I know

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what I'm saying. It was late
on my Should we do it? Should

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we do an Irish shirt that says
Happy Halloween? Ask me how you're appropriating

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my culture? Oh? Man,
we could workshop that. Yeah, yeah,

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you know what I mean. We
could spre gonna watch Spooky Month coming

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up next week. Yeah, first
episode of Spooky Month. It's you two,

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right, Yeah, yeah, I
think I'm man your main I got

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a special guest for a Patreon Oh
really little extra potentially tarot card reading.

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Oh okay for all of us now, not just me. Oh I love

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Veronica a seasoned witch. Oh that's
a that's a shot that's insulting. Yeah,

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you shots fired, Veronica or Taylor. If you're listening and you want

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to let Veronica know to curse Dan, curse. You don't have to curse

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me. You can come too.
We can have a battle of the witches.

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Oh my god, you guys can
bring your wands my tarot cards.

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Now, if two witches come into
contact with each other, do the tarot

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cards then become like Yugio cards and
they battle each other? Yes, I

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think. So it's like, are
you hit them with like the reverse Unil

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card? Yeah, it's like Uno, but one of them dies at the

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end. That's fun. It's like
pick up seven or like draw seven,

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but it's like seven poisons. Yeah, it's like seven death cards in a

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rown. Yeah. Yeah, so
keep a lookout for that. It just

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gets the same reading both times.
It's still the same ship from the last

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time. The Twin Tower card.
Yeah, and my life has only gone

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downhill since your life is a national
tragedy. It's great. From the outside,

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it looks so good. Went on
the outside of nine to eleven looked

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good. I guess there's a lot
of press coverage. I don't have any

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of that. The outside of the
buildings probably looked better than the end.

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Brought the nation together, Yeah,
on a lie, that's united any three.

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Maybe you're at the bar dan Steel
being Yeah, Jeffield, Well you

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ain't that hot. I need some
Jeff fuel because I'm a little tired and

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I but we're gonna press through.
We're gonna give you a love that energy.

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A nice episode on Geronimo tonight,
Geronimo, are you familiar with this

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guy? Here? About this guy
Indian? Now? Fun fact about Geronimo.

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I don't know if you included this, but a bunch of on D

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Day, or I should say the
day before D Day, a bunch of

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paratroopers cut mohawks before they jumped in. It was because they had watched a

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Western or a film or something featuring
Geronimo and they were like, the guy's

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a fucking animal. Let's go.
Yeah, I'm doing it. I'm cutting

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my hair. Like the guy in
the movie who had a mohawk. He

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kind of took over pop culture even
at the time. Really yeah, okay,

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we'll see a mohawk. No,
like a mohawk Indian. Yeah no,

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but he had a mohawk the movie. He's an Apache, Okay,

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Yeah, which apaches are. There's
a lot of them. Apaches are like

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the spartans of Native Americans. But
apaches are also just kind of like this

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umbrella term for the Southwest Indians.
Uh. Yeah. The apaches had like

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a little empire, I believe,
and so so many different like subsexx Yeah.

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It's similar to the way, you
know, the Aztec Empire, they

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weren't you know what I mean.
It's like they weren't necessarily Aztecs, or

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the way like Germany is still like
there's Bavarians and you know whatever. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. He was also
not born Geronimo. He earned that

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name. We'll get to that.
But he was born Goya Fla, which

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translates to the one who yawns Goya. Okay, so he's a real snooze

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man, lave laying goys. Huh, I do I love did not live

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up to his name though, just
one. Yeah, exceeded expectations. Oh

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undt were of land boys with I
don't know what that means. Oh man,

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you're both Catholics, say in a
more jewey, I love land boys.

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There you go staring up. The
goy is a non Jewish person.

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Okay, my wife, Yeah,
you do. You lay one boy.

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There's a cricket. There's a cricket's
salt. It doesn't come loaded. You

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gotta pump it too. It's a
pump action. Is there salt in it?

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Now? There's nothing in there loaded. I thought it would. I

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told you we had to get we
had to go get a thing of Morton's

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table slot right, Yeah, that'd
be you'd be a funny thing in a

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movie as if like you're fighting off
witches and someone just takes a bug assault

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and starts blasting holes. Yeah,
which is because it's a protection. Yeah,

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you'd make the circles. Yeah,
that would be dope. Hey,

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it's which gonna lay circle around the
studio or assault circle around the studio?

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We should make her. What if
we were just what if we just like

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jokingly we're like, be you with
the thing and then it really did like

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just blow a hole or chest.
She's just like evaporated through the roof and

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burst into bats. What if that
happened? Damn, what if that happened?

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Stay tuned. Dront Mill was part
of the Badunka Hay Band, a

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smaller tribe of the Apaches with the
population of a little over eight thousand one

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is now modern day New Mexico Southwest
Baby. His grandfather was chief, and

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once his father died Neppo Baby,
he and his three brothers and four sisters

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went with his mother to live amongst
the Cherikawhi Apaches. He was naturally gifted

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hunter and provided for his first wife, who he married at seventeen and had

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three children with She was the first
of nine wives. Damn do they stack

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wives or was that just like they
did after the fact, because what had

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happens to his wife, you see, what had happened was is kind of

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what gets the wheels in motion for
what he does. Is this like the

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part in Brave Heart they made up
where the English do something fucked up to

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the prema nocta and then William Wallace
starts starts American Brits and but his wife

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dies and he's like, well,
now I have to go on a revenge

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spree to free Scotland. Yes,
revenge slash just slang my dick around spree.

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Fair enough. I imagine he becomes
a leader at some point too,

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and has to like marry to unite
tribes or whatever. The fuck. Well

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he marries this woman whose father is
also a leader. So yeah, he's

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just you know, pimped out.
He's kind of playing the game, even

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from an early age. That game
exists across cultures. Yeah, yeah,

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very much. So they can't kill
us if he fuck if my son fucks

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their daughter, Yeah, then they
have a baby of both of ours.

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Yeah, that's we don't kill then
I have terrible news for you. Everyone

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being on the run was a way
alife. Or Geronimo and his people,

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they were in constant conflict with Mexico, the US, and local tribes as

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they constantly rated their neighbors. Oh, I thought only America fought the Native

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Americans. No, he mainly has
issues with the Mexicans. Oh weird.

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I thought it was only America,
you know, the Southwestern this time everyone

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hated it. What year is it, Well, he was born I think

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in the twenties, So nineteen twenties, eighteen twenties, Okay, I say,

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yeah, nineteen twenties, Yeah,
eighteen twenties. Okay, So this

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isn't even the seventeen twenty. A
lot of this stuff's gonna kind of starck

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around eighteen fifty to eighteen eighty for
the region I guess the seven No,

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no, no, no, not
for that region. Well, wait till

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you find out how long he lives. Okay. What I'm saying is like

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it's I gotta imagine how how long
was the period of lawlessness post Mexican American

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War to quite a bit, Like
it doesn't even get really, people don't

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even really start moving there. I
mean, you have the gold Rush of

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forty nine, We're gonna get to
get to California. But people don't really

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start moving out there till after the
Civil War. In earnest things start popping

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off because of the end of the
Mexican American War, where it's just all

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this like Freeland settlers are gonna try
to eventually move to and apaches. They

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love themselves a good raid. Yeah, no, for sure. They were

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essentially just like plane pirates. Yeah, dude, oh yeah, it's like

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we've lived here forever and you're here
now, so you're you're ours. They

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were the probably the fiercest tribe that
the US fought, and the Mexicans well

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yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know, I don't know anything about

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like what they were dealing with in
the Yucatan or anywhere else, but in

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turn up there for sure. Well
yeah, around the border, right,

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yeah, Like I mean there were
governments that were like fun, both Mexican

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and Americans, that were like bounties
on scalps. Yeah to him, get

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your money. Yeah, we're gonna
get to that. Okay. So he

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led four successful raids himself that kind
of ended up having Mexico developed that bounty

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program. Oh he started it,
he kicked it off. Nice. So

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in response to these raids, Mexico
developed the bounty system for Apache scalps,

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including children scalps, for twenty five
dollars. Yeah, no, it was

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about right. I mean, think
about it this way. You gotta get

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rid of the French factor. Yeah, absolutely, well that that's actually I

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didn't even think about that. That's
a good point. Like if we're talking

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about the banality and the it's just
a fucking genocide. Yeah, you just

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gotta wipe them out. Like you're
looking at it. I'm not saying,

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oh god, this is terrible,
like I'm just saying, if they are

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raiding you and you don't want that
to happen anymore, you don't leave young

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ones right right. Yeah, it's
not it's not pretty. The logistics of

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that and the semantics of wiping out
of people. No, but you see

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it gets there's the calculuses there.
Yeah, there's math to it. Yeah,

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math doesn't care not sink. My
two co hosts on this show would

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advocate for genocide. I'm not advocating
for it, explained Jewish Man. I'm

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start left. I'm sorry, Uh, I'm sorry. You don't side with

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Mexico. I don't. I think
you're a racist. I think you're racist,

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bro. Yeah, Okay. His
legend really starts on March fifth,

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eighteen fifty one, when a Mexican
company four hundred soldiers led by Colonel Jose

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Marida Carrasco attacked their camp at Janos. Among those killed during the conflict were

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Geronimo's wife, all his children,
and his mother. Damn. Yeah,

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that sent me on a spree.
Yeah, I think you start killing Geronimo

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then only twenty two would go home
to wage war against Mexico for the rest

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of his life. I think that's
a life defining moments. So yeah,

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yeah, I also like props to
Geronimo, Like, I'm at war with

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an entire country now right personally it's
versus this part of fucking Mexico. Yeah,

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that's that's just like the amount of
determination in that moment, like the

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amount of hate you probably have in
your heart for that. This is my

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life's purpose. I will end this
country just random Mexicans. Yeah, and

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props, dude. It became on
site for any Mexican that Geronimo would encounter

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in a Patchee tradition, he burned
all his family, he's belongings and grieved

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in the wilderness where legend has it
a voice came to him and told Geronimo,

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no gun will ever hurt you.
Fucking sick Spirit of the Forest.

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Spirit of the Forest talking tree from
Pocahonas just was like, hey, no

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one's shooting you. And these are
also direct quotes from Geronimo because he's awesome.

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There's I subscribe to newspapers dot com. Awesome resource now kind of been

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kind of massive overside of my part. I subscribe to newspapers dot com.

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Dude, you can search anything and
they will pull up like literal newspapers from

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the eighteen seventies. That's where I
was doing. When I was doing the

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newspaper blocks I was. I was
also subscribed to newspapers dot com and yeah,

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I was just going through I was
going through literal day by day editions

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of the Post dispatch. It was
supposed dispatch from like the eighteen eighties,

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eighteen nineties. I have another question
about what you just said, though,

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Why don't we get grieve in the
woods days from work? And alright,

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that's bullshit, Like Geronimo gets to
baseball players, get it. Grieve in

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the woods. Well, you can
take time off to grieve. It depends

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if you work at the right startup. You can go to Josh Witchery and

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do a bunch of mushrooms. But
that's like for networking and synergy and flow

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in business practice. I'm talking about
like, Yo, man, my dog

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died. What that technical term that
a lot of people use for it for

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what That's what I'm trying to remember
for the baseball because it's a list.

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It's a it's not grievance list.
It's fuck. What is it? Uh?

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Like when Erlick goes out, he's
trying to like figure out it's a

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vision quest. Oh, vision quests? Yeah, yeah, just like anyone

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can go on a vision quests.
Yeah. But yeah, listen, yo,

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me and my dog died, I
have to go in the woods for

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three days. Now. You should, especially if your dog dies. Yeah,

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absolutely go cry out there when he
came back. Oh, I'm sorry.

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The MLB has a bereavement list.
Oh yeah, yeah, so if

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like your dad dies in the middle
season, they can they don't have to

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put you on the IL, but
you can just take a step. Yeah,

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but then they can replace your roster
spot for they have a paternity list,

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a bereavement list. Oh damn,
that's pretty progressive of the MLB does

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not really know they need to replace
the guy on the roster. Yeah,

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when he came back, he went
to the Apache band led by his father

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in law coaches to ask for assistance
and getting revenge. He gathered up two

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hundred men and hunted down every single
Mexican soldier who killed his family. Damn

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did he alleged in that time?
It took a couple of years. I

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mean yeah, and that's what makes
me even more wondered. Did he I

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imagine he killed Mexican soldiers. I
think he killed enough to be certain,

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But like, was he just killing
he was Mexican soldiers? He definitely killed

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this colonel. Baby, he killed
the colonel. I believe that that's easy,

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right, figure out that guy he's
but you're to find the corporal and

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second platoon Maybe not right? Maybe
I think at that point you're just often

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dudes in blue blue J Scott,
the guy that gave the order, right,

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Yeah, Yeah, he's just making
a checklist. He's just killing random

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Mexican sol He's killing that colonel and
then and that's fine. Also at this

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point, like he kills your wife
and all your fucking kids. Yeah,

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dude, just kill any Mexican mom
and his mom. Just kill any Mexican

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soldier. At that point he's made
I'm not even begrudging it. He's checking

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it twice. If you're Mexican,
it's murder on site. Dam is coming

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to the name Geronimo came about doing
an a tackle on Mexicans where our boy

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was surgical with the blade. Most
historians believe that as the Mexican soldiers bled

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out from the knife, they cried
out to Saint Jerome for help and it

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just kind of stuck. And as
he stood over their dead bodies, was

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he like Jerome, No, no, jer Was it in was that vampire

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movie Thirty Days a Night when she's
like it's good and he's like, oh

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God, no God, and it's
like Jerome, Jerome, No, No,

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They're like days Geronimo. It's exactly
how it went down. About it,

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Like it's a pointing contention with a
bunch of historians, But I'm gonna

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go with that because it sounds dope. That's a sound dope, like it's

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not confirmed, but we're going with
ye Jerome. So comfortable with this little

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mimic sawed off pump shotgun here.
It's nice. It's the filly in you.

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You're just you're getting a feel for
it. I'm gonna get you a

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real one. We have a real
once in that guitar case. Don't let

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people know that. People, there
is a literal shotgun here with amo fucking

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surgical with it short barrel. I'm
a surgeon with this thing, Jake.

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Let's start this bitch. I believe
the surgeon with this bitch, Jake.

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It's been a while since I've seen
Training Day. But you get the you

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get the point. It's one of
my favorite movies. Attacks and counterattacks would

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go on for decades. Americans came
more into the picture after the Mexican American

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War and the pursuit for gold brought
miners and settlers into the region, which

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brought about rate opportunities on stage coaches
and wagon trains full of gold. You

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know you got to fund your war, baby. It's funny that like Wells

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Fargo's thing, right is the wagon, the covered wagon, because that's how

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they transported it. Yeah, so
my mind, I'm always like so Wells

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Fargo was the most strapped wagon yes, Like that's why I think of when

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I see that, I'm like,
that's how that's why they still exists.

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They were so guns up, no
one bought. There was more than one

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dude riding shotgun. Yeah, they
were all riding shot It's a gallon gun

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on every They also killed the just
you know, the buffalo caught strays.

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That's it. We accidentally almost wiped
out the American buffalo. I think everything

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around the buffalo caught strays most likely. Yeah. After American military intervention due

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to these tacks on their citizens,
the Apache reached a peace agreement with Coachie

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his father in law, and would
establish reservations of on the Apache land that

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they held nearer to their hearts.
So they kind of came into a nice

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agreement like hey, just kind of
you can keep your land, stay there,

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some of your land, stop bothering
us. Yes, so Coachiese is

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his father in law, right,
Yeah, Roby, you remember this,

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Dan. I don't know if it
was just my part of Florida or whatever.

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Do people call people coach Cheese.
I've heard that, Like I've heard

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like it's from like I feel like
it was big in like the seventies or

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something, you know what I mean, like a quick yeah, yeah,

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I also have coach cheese. Yeah, I know, I know. That

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was one of my first thoughts hearing
that is that used to be like slang.

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It was saying for like, what's
up, bro? Yeah, what's

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up? Coach cheese? Chief?
Really is what? Like I think?

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So yeah. Much of this much
to the disappointment of Geronimo. He hated

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that he kind of agreed to a
peace offering pieces for bitches. This man

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has no peace in his heart.
And again I don't fault him. I

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was at war with the entire country
of Mexican. Now I'm just not at

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warm with anyone. He's at war
with Earth. At this point, my

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blood lust is not filled m hm. Around the same time, the Apachees

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finally reached a peace agreement in eighteen
seventy three with Mexicans. Terms were agreed

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upon and Mexican troops gave the natives
mescow to celebrate once they were intoxicated.

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The Mexican army then went back on
the treaty immediately and started to slaughter and

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capture different bands of the Patuck.
That is fucking insane. That's like straight

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up murdering your guest in the house
kind of shit, like you just did

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this, like you just made the
treaty. Yeah, it'd be like if

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we just started unloading that Thanksgiving dinner. I mean, it's the Trojan Horse,

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you know, it's like all anything
like that. Really, I feel

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like I just watched something where that
happened too, where like I watched some

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movie or something where it's just like
they waited, like only half the group

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was drinking, but everyone acted like
they were drinking, you know what I

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mean, and they turned on the
other half type of thing. Yeah.

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Yeah, what if the Trojan Horse
was just full of other brows that wanted

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to tickle fight? Yeah, or
I mean, you know it's the Red

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Wedding, right, it is the
Red Wedding. Yeah, for sure.

404
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,160
It's the Oh yes, we're binding
our these houses are getting married and no,

405
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,240
no, no no, and yep
everyone's here great. Yeah, dude.

406
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,559
If I was a royal ever,
I'd be like, I'm not going

407
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:06,680
to show I'm going anywhere. Fuck
it, we are castle, Yeah,

408
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:10,319
who live here? Now, I'll
probably get killed in this, but whatever,

409
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,480
you gotta get to me. Yeah. They were forced into the wilderness

410
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:17,799
or sought refuge on the US reservations. Those shielded from the attacks on these

411
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:23,400
reservations. Malaria was a bucking and
much of the population either died or became

412
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,440
disabled from the disease. That sucks. Not ideal, but Geronimo, that

413
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:37,519
strong boy. Geronimo himself was at
the San Carlos Reservation from eighteen seventy seven

414
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:42,839
to eighteen eighty one. So he's
already like sixty. No, he's born

415
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,799
in the fifties, twenty nine,
like twenty nine. So yeah, so's

416
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,400
he's in his fifties. He's in
his No, he's in his forties.

417
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,519
He lives forever. Okay, he's
a live right now. Yeah, he's

418
00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:00,680
still in the reservation. That dope. Uh. He escaped in September of

419
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,640
eighteen eighty one. He led a
small band of Apachee for the next five

420
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,799
years of aiding captors and picking off
little raids here and there. They established

421
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:15,200
a base in the Sierra Madre Mountains. Perceptions of Dronimo were all over the

422
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,079
map. Who was a bit of
a lightning rod. His followers viewed him

423
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,400
as the last great defender of the
Native American way, but most of the

424
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,480
actual Apachee population that was on the
reservation saw him as a stubborn holdout,

425
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:32,079
violently driven by revenge and foolishly putting
the lives of his people in danger.

426
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:37,480
Like they come on, man,
they already got us. Just it's like

427
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:44,319
a Japanese guy in the jungle after
all. Yeah, but like instead he's

428
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,720
in like fucking Kyoto. Yeah,
Like, dude, we're just doing stuff.

429
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:53,079
It's all along the Western Front.
The last scene. Oh yeah,

430
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,440
the war's over. Why are we
going to battle? I know they just

431
00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,799
charged the trans de generals, Like
we're doing it one more time. But

432
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:08,839
Germany we lost. There's no four. The US armies pursued of Dronimo is

433
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,759
what through gasoline onto the fire of
his legend. At one point a quarter

434
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,160
of all US soldiers were on the
hunt for Dronimo. Yeah. Although the

435
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:26,519
the sort of sticking point there is
that prior to the end of World War

436
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,279
Two, the US basically like didn't
have an army. There's about five thousand

437
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,880
people. Yeah, unless they're at
war, it was about five thousand people.

438
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,880
Yeah, they were constantly hunting down
draw so we didn't have like an

439
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,759
active army. We had did not
have a large standing army until after World

440
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:45,119
War Two. Even even before like
especially like before World War One and before

441
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,559
the Civil War, like fuck before
the Civil War. Keep in mind that

442
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,480
like every everyone who was a general
in the Civil War, for example,

443
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:00,200
Like I mean they were like before
the war started, like two years before

444
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,640
the war started, they were like
lieutenants and captains. Lee was a colonel

445
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,200
because there just weren't that many troops, Like you didn't, there weren't didn't

446
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,559
need more than a couple of generals
essentially, So like all these dudes who

447
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,200
immediately became generals because everyone gets breveted
up, you know what I mean,

448
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,960
everyone just beak. It's like,
okay, well, you know, we

449
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,759
need to experience people to do this. And now these boomer troops, yeah,

450
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,079
keeping us all the lower ranks.
Yeah, I'm just kidding. But

451
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:30,279
there was a good portion of the
media that also kind of went out to

452
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,680
the West to follow this story with
the US troops. Hell yeah, dude,

453
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:41,240
and they would either romanticize Torontimo kind
of or create this like overly villainous

454
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,480
character. Either way, though,
you got people reading, yeah, people

455
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,440
buying the papes. There was no
hey, this guy's out in the mountains.

456
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,000
This is wild. But you know, I think one of the best

457
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,400
episodes we ever did not to toot
my own horn. Here was on the

458
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,160
penny papers. People never wanted real
news. Yeah, that's yeasty. People

459
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,400
never wanted real news. The invention
is actually with the modern media started with

460
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,039
the Mexican American War, and it
really just became like garbage news, sensationalism,

461
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,640
sensational news, like immediately, and
you should check out that episode.

462
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,559
It's not even close to new.
And this time here, shit don't change,

463
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:24,160
Shit, don't change. Captain Emmet
Crawford launched an expedition into Mexico controlled

464
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,720
land after locating Geronimo on January ninth, eighteen eighty six. He had his

465
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:38,440
own group of Apache Scouts that he
gathered up and they kind of went in

466
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,799
stole all of Geronimo's horses and camping
equipment when they left the site, and

467
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:51,960
this kind of demoralized Geronimo's group.
Yeah, losing your food and car would

468
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,240
on a road trip, would demoralize
me. Yep, you know what I

469
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,960
mean, especially in the Southwest desert. Yeah, someone takes your hotel reservation

470
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:04,119
and steals your car and you're and
food and when you go to check in,

471
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,039
take your car. Yeah, if
you're shit yeah, I would feel

472
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:16,039
bad. Immediately, as Jeronimo was
already on his way to surrender to the

473
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:23,039
Department of Arizona General George Crook,
as they negotiated some peace terms, a

474
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:28,680
group of Mexican soldiers came along and
solved the American army with the APACHE,

475
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440
accusing them of the crimes against Mexico
that Geronimo himself had committed. So the

476
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:39,359
Americans helped, Yeah, fucking sure, the Americans and their group of APACHE

477
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,839
that helped hunt down Geronimo accused the
Mexicans. The Mexicans came up to them,

478
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,559
yeah, and accused them of committing
all the crimes against Mexico. Yeah,

479
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,519
that's what Jeronimo's gone. Yeah,
Dronimo went to surrender to Krook.

480
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Right, and so now they're accusing
US troops of doing what Geronimo did.

481
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:02,440
Yeah, along with their group of
like us friendly Apache. Right, that's

482
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,119
a CIA. We have any fucking
reason to do that, Like, buddy,

483
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,679
if we wanted this land, we
could have had it. So yeah,

484
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:15,239
there's a great joke on Saturday ight
live back in the day from colin

485
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:22,639
Quim where like Scientology was complaining that
they were being persecuted in Germany, and

486
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,480
he was like in Germany responded,
we're Germany. When we start persecuting your

487
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,559
religion, you'll know, is that
weekend update? Yeah? Yeah, classic.

488
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:38,559
So the Mexicans slaughtered this American unit, including Crawford. Damn, this

489
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:44,119
seems like a great opportunity for Dronamo
to make an escape, so he does,

490
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880
why not, well that people are
hunting us down? Are gone?

491
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:53,000
How was this not? What came
of this literal international incident? You know,

492
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,039
a whoopsie daisy more or less?
All right, yeah, we all

493
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,880
get a free one. Yeah,
especially in the wild West. It's yeah

494
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:05,360
right, where did they do?
Ass? Get dragged their bodies right across

495
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,280
the border? Who's gonna see,
it's very no country for old men,

496
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,920
just like you know what. Nah, Yeah, we're gonna just let this

497
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,320
go. So Geronimo and his boys
a skip. They continued to hit up

498
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,480
some raids, but ultimately, feeling
the pressure of even more you as interference,

499
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:30,000
they surrender in the summer of eighteen
eighty six. Over the next several

500
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,079
years, Geronimo and his people were
bouncing around, first to a prison in

501
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,960
Florida, then a prison camp in
Alabama, and then Fort Sill in Oklahoma,

502
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,800
man, the worst places you could
be in prison and then the worst

503
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,920
state, well, the Indian prison
state. Yes, giant, yeah,

504
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,119
prison. Yes. In total,
the group spent twenty seven years as prisoners

505
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,719
war gods. That's a long time
to be a pow. He doesn't die,

506
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,880
He just keeps all in trucking.
Hate. It's not the worst fuel.

507
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:07,079
It is quite the motivator. Look, all you need to stay alive

508
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,039
is a reason to stay alive.
And if he's just pissed, wakes up

509
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:16,800
every day looking forward to being fucking
furious. While he and the rest of

510
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,000
the Apache remained under guard, Geronimo
had a bit of a glow up experienced

511
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:28,159
a bit of celebrity from his white
former enemies. Less than a decade after

512
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:32,239
he surrendered, crowds long to catch
a glimpse of the famous Indian warrior.

513
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,840
In nineteen oh five, he published
his autobiography. In that same year,

514
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,639
he received a private audience with President
Teddy Roosevelt. Okay, this is six

515
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:50,440
super on brand for Roosevelt. Dude. Also, he's like now, he's

516
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:54,239
like eighty seventy, like mid seventies
probably, I mean, and look,

517
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:59,760
how is this any different? In
fact, it's not any different than people

518
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,519
wanting to take selfies with OJ Simpson
at a sports bars, which happens all

519
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,360
the time. Uh yeah, OJ
didn't have a good enough reason to kill

520
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,440
what OJ didn't have a good enough
reason to kill? Look, he found

521
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,719
a man tearing apart his family.
Jeronimo's family was torn apart. Listen,

522
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,880
I'm not gonna let you conflay what
happened to Jeronimo with the anti Semitic sentiments

523
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,039
of OJ Simpson. Okay, he's
just mad because one of mine got one

524
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:38,039
of his. And what was it, Jeff Goldman, h Ron Goldman,

525
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,880
Ron Goldman whatever. He's a legend, all right, even though I don't

526
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,360
remember his first names. Yeah,
uncle, sure, that's how that works.

527
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:51,039
Yeah, like everyone with the last
name Smith is related. Yes,

528
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,800
but if you go back far enough, we'll If you go back far enough,

529
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:59,639
we're brothers. Hell yeah, brother, hell yeah brother. But dude,

530
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,119
like that. It's the same people
do that now. But it really

531
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,119
was just like they want to see
like the scary man. Oh my god,

532
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:12,000
if like one if like Ted Bundy
or like Ted Grazinski Kazinski, Yeah

533
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,360
we're alive, they'd be like,
oh dude, there would be so many

534
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,800
fucking a little like you would absolutely
do that. Shut up, not you,

535
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,320
I mean the royal you, but
also you. Ted Kasinski made like

536
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537
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604
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,920
mister fucking West Teddy Roosevelt is.
It's sad that we could never do

605
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,800
an episode on Teddy. There's so
much to cover. It's too much,

606
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
and we don't like to do anthology. We did him fixing football kind of

607
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,920
we it was a blip of it
because there's a general like football. Oh.

608
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,960
We also did him on the Patreon
Fruit War episode where yeah, he

609
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:17,280
was essentially responsible for cleaning up banana
injuries. Yeah, he did an appeal

610
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,320
injuries. He saved the United States
of America from suffering the most infuriating Mario

611
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Kart step back. I think,
like I think there are certain people in

612
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,079
history that we avoid because there's just
no way we could do one episode on

613
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:34,719
them, like Teddy, Julius,
Caesar. Yeah, people like that,

614
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,559
but I conna blasted like twenty episodes
on Caesar because of course we don't do

615
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:43,840
that. We'll do like of course
they did, because it's a lifetime of

616
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,000
work. Like for us, I
like when they make a weird cameo and

617
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:51,880
our normal in our weird ass stories
where it's like Teddy Roosevelt stopped the banana

618
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:54,559
or if it's or it's another thing
where he could I could do an episode

619
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:58,880
on why I think Caesar sucked ass, Yes, you know, like why

620
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:04,039
Caesar deserved to stabbed a hundred fucking
times or whatever. Yeah, but I

621
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,719
wouldn't be going over his whole I
wouldn't talk about the pirate stuff, you

622
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,119
know what I mean, it's superfluous
to the topic. Yeah, yeah,

623
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:13,400
so you can fow zoom in on
a little parts of their lives. But

624
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,079
yeah, I mean, Teddy is
just one of my favorite things is I

625
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,719
would just do Teddy in the Spanish
American War because Teddy rosett was just like

626
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:27,760
I'd like to see combat neat Yeah, which is an insane thing. Like

627
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:35,559
he's just like, ah, like
in like maybe America's least moral war.

628
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:40,679
We should definitely make a rough rider
shirt. Uh, Ron and gentlemen did

629
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,639
while back. Yeah, whatever,
steal it. They don't exist anymore,

630
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,239
they do, they do. Don't
do that, all right, it won't

631
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,920
be exactly the same design. Uh. The intent of him going down on

632
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,800
horseback was to show that the Natives
and Americans had buried the hatchet forever.

633
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:09,480
Later that same week, Geronimo met
with Roosevelt and made a request for his

634
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:15,760
apache group at Fort Sill to be
relieved of their prisoner of war status and

635
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,039
allowed to return to their homeland.
Prisoner when he was in the parade,

636
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,039
yes, back up, like when
he's having a private audience with the president.

637
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:29,719
Still prisoner of war. Doesn't sound
like a hatchet was buried during the

638
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:36,000
parade, by the way, if
he's your prisoner. Yeah. Roosevelt refused,

639
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:39,199
and he said he's like, you're
not going back to your homeland.

640
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,079
Uh, You're gonna have to deal
with this. So he was Roosevelt's pet.

641
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:49,559
Yeah, that sucks more or less. What a ship ball. That's

642
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:53,760
a dick move, ted and Roosevelt
stared Geronimo in the eye and told the

643
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,920
Native that he had a bad heart. Thanks for the audience, bad heart

644
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,880
prisoner Teddy doesn't give a fuck.
And I but I do like that Teddy's

645
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,119
like I kind of feel like he
saw combat just to get the clout of

646
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,920
seeing combat, just so no one
could one up him, right, he

647
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,119
could be like he could be like
I've I've been shot at, you know,

648
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,840
like I've not to say that he
like San Juan Hill was a real

649
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,039
battle, you know, like and
he was charging up against machine guns and

650
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,639
stuff like that, but which is
a not an ideal thing to do in

651
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:28,039
that time period anytime, heero,
but especially that time period that one.

652
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:32,239
Yeah, that's relatively new. Yeah
yeah, but like at the same time,

653
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,880
I do just kind of feel like
he just it was a bucket list

654
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,679
item. Yeah. No, I
mean that's a thing, like that's very

655
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,119
much a thing I personally, like, I know, I will never go

656
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,880
into war or anything like that that
I that I plan on, right,

657
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,840
like God forbid, But like there's
always other than your few tours in the

658
00:46:53,880 --> 00:47:01,199
id F. Of course, of
course that's a pleae action again. I

659
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:04,960
don't know how many times I have
to fucking tell you stop talking about that

660
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,119
on the podcast, Like I'm not
it's not cut it out, okay,

661
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,760
Like I'm sorry, I'm supposed to
be hush hush about that. And this

662
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,400
is the main save for the Patreon
Okay, come on, guys, that's

663
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,119
where the idea of stories have.
That's that's where you get it. Patreon

664
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:21,960
dot com. Slosh off course.
No, but for real, though,

665
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Like there's obviously been times in my
young male life where I'm like, there's

666
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:30,920
some glory in though, right,
there's some like this, there's got to

667
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,800
be. I don't know it's glory. Well, like there's something like there's

668
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,559
some elevate and I know this is
naive, but it's like I know in

669
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:42,639
my little like heart of heart,
it's my little boy brain back there.

670
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,639
I'm like, that's like the elevated
life experience. No, that's how they

671
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,119
view it. Yeah, that's how
they view it. The people that were

672
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,760
in combat. No, I mean, but like absolutely how they view it.

673
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,480
I've listened to enough of them talking
it is. It is the most

674
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,079
extreme version of existence to be at
war. Yeah, Like yeah, I

675
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,000
literally are fucking boss who was in
a ton of combat is like, there's

676
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:07,639
no bigger thrill than killing someone who's
trying to kill you. That's an almost

677
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:10,719
direct quote I am barely paraphrasing.
The closest I've ever gotten is like sacking

678
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,159
a QB when I played d lock, like in JV football, you know

679
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,519
what I mean. Like, and
when you feel that, you're like,

680
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:22,599
man, imagine that time's infinity.
Basically, I think probably the closest I've

681
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:29,559
ever gotten is probably buying a Plan
B pill for a girlfriend. I beat

682
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,960
that, I beat the charge.
I think the best field is just knocking

683
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,400
somebody out cold in front of the
group. Never done That's awesome. Never

684
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,559
done that, damn of all the
people here. Obviously, mister tat sleep,

685
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,920
you're holding a fake saw it off. You got a full sleeve tattoo.

686
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,280
Well it's your lighthouse. Oh it's
beaming. It's beaming light. See

687
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:54,280
you should have had it not beaming
light. And then many people ask you

688
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,599
need to be you need to be
like because this arm put your lights out.

689
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,159
This arms lights out. It's a
sleep arm. Yeah, I would

690
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:07,239
defeat the purpose of a lighthouse.
No, that's due the fucking metaphor of

691
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:13,039
the lighthouse that's not shining any light
because this arm lights out. I'll get

692
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,440
what you're saying, so get it
filled in. No, he needs fist

693
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:22,880
hats n I T E N T
E night night. That's pretty good,

694
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,039
right, do it? Please do
that? All right? Well, we'll

695
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:32,280
think about it, okay, thanks
dragging. His death came four years later

696
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,840
after meeting with Roosevelt. While riding
home in February nineteen o nine, he

697
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:45,199
was thrown from his horse. What
a ship with that's like pattent that's literally

698
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:50,280
like Patton dies in a jeep accident
a couple like a month or couple of

699
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,960
weeks after the end of World War
two. Death always finds you, Yeah,

700
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:58,400
and if you outlive it when you
shouldn't have, it finds you in

701
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,320
a very mundane way. I feel
it's the opposite of final destination. Yeah,

702
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:05,119
he didn't be funny. Let's make
a final destination. Maybe just gets

703
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,079
cancer. Well he didn't die instantly. He survived a night out in the

704
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:13,000
cold and when a friend found him
the next day. Geron in those health

705
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,800
was rapidly deteriorating. On his deathbed, he confessed to his nephew that he

706
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:23,239
regretted his decision to surrender, and
he would never he wouldn't he wouldn't have

707
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,639
done it, you know, after
twenty to thirty years of pow existence.

708
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,280
Oh, he confessed that. I
don't think it had too. They were

709
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,239
like, hey, we know,
bro, we need get it. Yeah,

710
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,679
Like, but I mean I like
that he didn't back down from his

711
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,760
actions of like murdering cold blood.
He backed down from trying to like find

712
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,039
pieces. Dude, he was man
on fire. I don't even fucking blame

713
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:55,280
him. No, no innocent people
he killed in like a raid on a

714
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,920
gold wagon. He did all the
time though. Yeah, that's and that's

715
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:00,639
kind of why Roosevelt like, no, fuck off, we're not giving your

716
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:05,440
land back. Like actually, nah, man, I like, I don't

717
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,199
is it fucked like it's the wild
West? Get yours. That's what that

718
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,639
place was. For the fact that
he was able to live, Like I

719
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:15,280
can't believe he wasn't hung not like
a cowboy that did that was a good

720
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,159
person, I know, right,
they were hanging horse thieves. This guy.

721
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,079
Yeah, like and this guy kills
like a thousand people and they're like,

722
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,760
you're banished to Florida. I guess
because maybe if they didn't like Natives

723
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,760
would like rise up or some shit. I don't know, but even most

724
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,119
of the APACHE were like, you're
kind of like, yeah, they didn't

725
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:37,119
like him. Yeah, even like
that happened a lot with Native tribes.

726
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:40,199
People don't realize, like you're from
another time. They were like even you

727
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:45,960
know, Sitting Bowl resisted, but
other other like Sioux chiefs were like,

728
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,320
nah, right, we surrender.
Not that they want I'm sure that they

729
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,840
didn't want to, right, but
it's just like at some point you're beat

730
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,800
and it's just you gotta start looking
around at the people you're leading and be

731
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,440
like, we can't just continue a
guerrilla war indefinitely. There's fucking kids here,

732
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,280
there's old ladies, like I think. I think though, there is

733
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,039
something like deep down at least admirable
of like fuck it, I'm going till

734
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:15,639
I'm dead, Like you'll never have
me. It depends not if you drag

735
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:21,559
other people with you against their will, that's fine. I like, can

736
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:24,079
they surrender without you? And that's
what that's what they did. Yeah,

737
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:27,360
that's what the other APACHE did.
That's what like. But I guess I

738
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,679
see what you're saying to you from
like a cultural simpoint where it's like we're

739
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,880
trying to just be alive here and
you're fucking like you can't. What do

740
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,840
you do after your checkmate and start
a fistfight with the guy you're playing chess

741
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,119
with? Like, yes, that
is exactly what you do, because you

742
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:45,239
know what, chess ain't real.
But like at that point, you're just

743
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:50,719
there's nothing you can do. I
mean, like it's at some point you're

744
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,920
when you're a leader and you're in
a war or whatever, like there's other

745
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:59,159
people you're responsible for. Totally I
get that. But at the same time,

746
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:04,440
years get it, get it,
never quit. So if a Geronmo

747
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:07,880
wants to take his married band of
you know, other dudes who are like

748
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,880
fuck this, like that's fine,
But if he was like a but like

749
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,079
the chieftains and stuff, the people
leading like whole ass communities were like I

750
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:16,880
hate this, I don't want to
do this, but like, yeah,

751
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,159
I guess I'm out of options.
I'm kind of playing Devil's advocate for al

752
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Qaida right now? Can you think
about it? Like, at a certain

753
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,960
point right now, it's like,
well, none of these folks really want

754
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:34,199
you to do this anymore, but
you're just here be hard. Yeah,

755
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:38,880
so he was buried at Fort Sill
in Oklahoma. Then there was a story

756
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:44,719
came out around World War One.
Okay, we're a group of Skull and

757
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Bones members. Oh, they have
Geronimo's bones. I forgot about that.

758
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,280
They when I think that when to
basic at Fort Sill. Yeah, for

759
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,480
world war during World War one,
during World War one, and they stole

760
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:05,519
Gerona those skull. Is that the
skull from Sculling Bones? I guess that's

761
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,920
rad. Yeah, I mean it's
awful, but it's of all the fraternity

762
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,559
shenanigans you can get into. They
haven't really confirmed this, but like there's

763
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,400
stories up to like two thousand and
nine where like people are asking Skull and

764
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,400
Bones to give back Geronimo's skull.
They're like, what are you talking about?

765
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:28,679
That's not a thing. So yeah, there was an AMA with a

766
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,119
guy by request I'm a member of
Skull and Bones AMA, and he like

767
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:35,719
confirmed it. It was legit.
I remember we covered it. Oh I

768
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,559
think anyway, he said he's kissed
Geronimo's skull. Uh, dude, Like

769
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:45,119
they have Geronimo's skull. I'm pretty
sure. What, Like you gotta imagine

770
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,199
he's the least successful Sculling Bones member
to do an Ama I know, right,

771
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,719
w was a Skull and Bones member, right, Yeah, kissed Geronimos.

772
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:59,880
I mean Geronimo's descendants have legit sued
Skull and Bones like they think su

773
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:04,639
back. They tried to patching Skull
and Bones instead of suing them. Yeah

774
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,840
right, it's taking scalps at school. We'll kiss. Uh. Brett was

775
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,519
dismissed in twenty ten. Do you
think the US government's all right school Bones?

776
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,639
Yeah? I wonder what judge.
The judge is just like you can

777
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:23,000
keep the skull boys. There's a
little hand signal. Yeah. And that,

778
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:28,960
as far as we know, is
the story of Geronimo sick. Would

779
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,400
you guys learn Well, I forgot
about the Skull and Bones party. That's

780
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,800
fun, That's very fun. That's
the most recent thing that's on my mind.

781
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,719
But I definitely learned about Teddy just
being like, this is burying the

782
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,679
hatchet between US and Native people.
And then as soon as they're like,

783
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,840
you know, we've been prisoners for
thirty years under the US government, He's

784
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,119
like, you have a bad heart. Fuck off. Okay, So the

785
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:54,920
AMA guy, okay, you get
back to that fucking got so the first

786
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:59,400
question out here that isn't deleted,
or it's first if you sort by best.

787
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,840
This user goes Geronimo's Bones question mark
you got anything on that story?

788
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:07,159
And then the guy goes no comment, but yeah, we has them.

789
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,159
I think I don't know if this
guy was in skulling bones, bro,

790
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,760
I don't think that counts. I
think it does. I think it does.

791
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,800
Of course. I'm pretty jake.
I want to believe. I want

792
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,679
to believe in something. Okay,
if it's true, this guy is the

793
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:30,760
worst skull and bones. Remember,
like, this guy's like a regional manager

794
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,559
at a Bank of America. Dude, I would give away all the Fiji

795
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,800
secrets if you wanted me to,
because still cares about Fiji. Like,

796
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,239
dude, the Library of Congress has
like all of our fraternities rituals. We're

797
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,159
all Freemason's bitch, you're not freemason. You'll know that. Why are you

798
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,199
here? Then I'm gonna I'm pretty
low on the tunnel pole. So you're

799
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,400
this guy, you're the this guy
of the Freemason. Yeah, sick.

800
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:01,360
I'm just looking for anything else about
Geronimo's bones here. But yeah, we

801
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:07,960
has them. We has them.
I believe it. That's all I need

802
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,960
to hear print the shirt we has
we this is a pile of bones.

803
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:21,400
Who's hitler in this story? I
think it's whoever you either you either die

804
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the hero or live long enough to
become the hitler. I mean the reason

805
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his family dies is because he can
committed a bunch of raids on Mexican soldiers,

806
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,920
killing them right, yeah, and
then they retaliated, went to his

807
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village, killed his family. But
I mean he was only killing soldiers.

808
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:44,320
I assume he eventually got into civilian
death. Was he not only killing soldiers?

809
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,440
No, No, he was raiding. Dude, all right, whoever

810
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,480
gets in the way of raids?
Yeah, so he was killing civilians.

811
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He got his own medicine tossed back
in his fucking face, got his family

812
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killed. Well, you know the
white man though, the Paleman. Well,

813
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:02,039
when I was reading Blood Meridi and
Glenn, I'm just kidding. I'm

814
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:06,159
not gonna do that till Yeah.
I still want to read that book.

815
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:08,480
It's so good. I read the
first I read the preview on Apple Books

816
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:12,000
or whatever. Yeah, like after
a book or something like that, or

817
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,840
I was like that was just like
part of the first Chips anyway. Yes,

818
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:22,639
Torontimo, actually Torontomo is Hitler.
M he immediately reaped what he sawed.

819
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I'm gonna do the politically correct answer, classic white Man. Yeah,

820
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I'm gonna go with the Mexicans that
killed the friendly apaches in the US that

821
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we're trying to suss those out.
I mean, they're definitely askeholes. Shot

822
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,519
first, ask questions later. Yeah. Well, I don't like to ask

823
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any questions. They didn't even figure
they didn't even stick around to figure out

824
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:47,039
if they were right. Ask question, answer it yourself, start shooting yet

825
00:58:47,199 --> 00:58:52,480
blasted. Yeah, so I'll go
with them. That's the story of Jeronimo.

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830
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