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Coming to you from Studio A here
at Proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio
podcast and YouTube show. It's kind of

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like a combo meal at lunchtime and
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Gardening Simplified on air dot com with
Stacyhirvella, me Rick Weist, and

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our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson.
Well, you've heard the phrases easy come,

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easy, go, take it easy, easy does it, easy as

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pie, easy on the eyes,
easy as falling off a log. And

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I remember those commercials from the nineteen
seventies and eighties, the Calgon commercials where

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a lady is just frustrated with the
traffic, the boss, the kids,

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the dog, and then she finally
screams, Calgon, take me away.

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I remember those commercials too. Yeah, lose yourself in luxury bathbeads or whatever

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those things were. But you know, we're all looking for easy, and

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I really believe the key is letting
go of trying to control things. I

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guess, and that's much easier said
than done. And spend time creating.

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Trade a portion of your consumption time
for creating, and you'll start to see

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the world differently. Everything is inspiration, and the same is true in gardening.

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Now, Stacy, I'm familiar with
garden center customers who will come up

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to me and they say, I
need a plant that will grow to four

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feet tall and then stop. I
want it to be able to grow in

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both sun or shade. I want
it to flower, and I don't want

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to have to do any maintenance.
Oh, and don't forget it also has

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to withstand the dog going on it
all the time. And ideally a wile

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flower every single day of every single
year for the rest of eternity. You

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got it. So I wrote a
little limb, a rick, a real

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short one in this regard. I
don't want a plant that looks cheesy or

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is so sick it makes me queasy. I want to set it and forget

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it. Don't want to have to
sweat it. Easy, peasy, lemon

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squeezy. Oh that's great, and
that's what people are looking that is what

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they're looking for. Yeah. Now, my Florida friends who say after storms

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are rain zephyr anthes bust out into
bloom or rain lilies, this is a

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bulbous perennial. In the Amarillis family, but it's one of those plants that

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is easy peasy, And of course, one person's bulletproof easy plant is another

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person's invasive plant. I think of
must carry grape hyacinths or Siberian squill.

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That can be the case. Yeah, you know, I think it really

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is a matter of here's what I
think. All plants are potentially easy to

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grow, Okay. The difference is
you need to plant them in the right

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place so that you don't have to
work hard to make them look great.

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And therein lies the trouble. And
that's why, you know, someone can

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say, oh, I can't get
delphiniums to grow it all down here in

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Florida, and you can go up
to Maine and delphiniums are growing all over

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the place looking fabulous. It really
is about the right plant in the right

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place and knowing what your conditions are. But as simple as that may seem

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to just say, the reality is
a little bit different. Yah, It's

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very true. It's well said.
You know a plant that comes to mind

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for me, Stacey, are the
oh so easy roses. Now. I

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think that this plant is really well
named because it's just gorgeous and so easy

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to grow. But I think back
to the seventies and eighties when I was

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working in the garden center industry.
We would have this group of people called

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the rosarians. Ah yes, and
they would come into the greenhouse or the

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store, and these were the magicians, these were the scientists. These were

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the people who knew how to grow
roses and knew exactly where to cut them

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and how to treat them and overwinter
them. And everyone depended on the rosarians.

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Now we have these landscape roses like, oh so easy, and well,

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it's easy, it is easy.
And you know, roses are such

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a great example because they do have
this old vestigial reputation of being so difficult

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to grow, and they needs break
and they need prenny, and they need

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dead heading, and they need this
and that and the other. They need

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to be dusted and coddled. And
the fact is that's not necessarily how roses

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were. Inherently, there were always
easy care roses, But it's the hybrid

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t roses that became so popular in
the twentieth century that kind of developed this

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mentality for people. And those are
still around, but even those have improved.

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Even those are easier to grow than
they were back in the day,

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and so yeah, it's about your
expectations and of course getting the right plant

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in the right place. Well,
I'm glad you're recording Adriana because that was

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really good. And that was all
off the top of her head. That's

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really good. Now, is there
anything easier stacy than landscape workhorses, hammer

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acalys or day lilies? I think
of the rainbow rhythm day lilies. I

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don't think there can there's much else
in the landscape that is more of a

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workhorse and easy than daylily. Well, I feel like daylilies and hostas are

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like the sun and shade, you
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both like can't miss, easy to
grow plants. But on the other hand,

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as more and more of us have
to deal with deer and those are

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two of deer's top to all time
favorite comfort foods, you know, we

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do start looking at different plants to
replace those. What else can we grow

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that's just as easy? And I
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replacement of dailies if you have deer
is Nevada campment exactly, another very very

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easy plant, yep, and another
plant that like you see in municipal plantings.

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I think that's a great indicator,
right, if you're seeing a plant

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in city plantings. Not to say
they don't have a staff, but that

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staff does not have the time or
inclination and to go and you know,

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dust and fuss over perennials and shrubs
and make sure everything's growing well. They

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want stuff that just looks great and
makes the town look great with minimal time

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inputs. O very true. That's
why you see often see Russian sage.

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Yeah, another great choice for sure. Yeah. When it comes to trees,

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I've got to mention the inconspicuous hop
horn beam or ironwood, a tough

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understory tree. And what I love
about this tree is that it's native and

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you find it all the way from
Canada as far south as the Honduras.

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So this is a hard, tough, strong tree that doesn't get a lot

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of press, doesn't get a lot
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those trees that I would classify as
easy. Of course, herbs in general

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are easy and forgiving. If you
think about chives or oregano or creeping time

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come back year after year and stacy
really easy to grow. Herbs are so

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so easy to grow and you know, that's one of the great things about

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them. My herbs self, so
so I always have an abundant, you

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know, supply of them to cook
with. And yeah, herbs are blessedly

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easy. We're very, very fortunate
to have such useful and easy to grow

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plants. Attractive, blessedly easy.
All right, let's just run through a

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few quick ones then. I still
find ornamental grass is to be very easy,

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whether they're miscanthus panic comes the hack
ina kloa Japanese forest grass carrects.

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You've mentioned that a number of times, Stacy, aliens serendipity, aliens.

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I love aliens. I think they're
so simple to grow. The amazing daisies

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like banana cream, baptizia seedum agistachi, smooth high ranges. I don't know

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if you agree with me or not, Stacy, but I think they're easy

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to grow. They're easy to grow
if you don't have deer. Yeah,

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yeah, right, exactly. You
mentioned nepetta or nepita, however you lot

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to pronounce it right, Potentilla.
We've talked about that. Oh yeah,

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one of the absolute easiest, especially
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Exactly, spyrea ita, brunera,
Virginia heliopsis. I find heliopsis, especially

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in sunny spots, to be so
easy to grow and so rewarding. Yeah,

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it's a big time. It's a
flower powerhouse that one. Yeah,

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exactly great for cut flower gardens.
And then you know, I have to

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have iris on my list too.
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have iris on my list, Stacey, is because generally the deer and rabbits

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leave the iris alone, and I
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least if you don't have iris borer
issues. Yeah, and even if you

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do have iris bor that's actually a
fairly easy pest to manage overall. And

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you know, the cool thing about
iris is that they look like they're hard

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to grow. You know, you
grow on some of these iris with these

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crazy color combinations, and you look
like you're some sort of you know,

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mad scientists, But really all you
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and the right spot and you just
get to sit back and reap the rewards.

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Absolutely like Siberian iris love it.
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Hosta is amazingly simple to grow,
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a little bit of shade and you
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the root system is just so tubrious
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robust root system. And you know, aside from slugs, hostas are pretty

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much pest free, and even slugs
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you know what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. And then I've got

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to throw Yucca color guard in there. And some people are gonna cringe because

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you know, if you plant a
yucca, you're making a lifetime commitment.

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Plastic explosives probably won't even remove it
ten years. Hence, but I tell

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you what, in a dry sandy
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least really seem to love Yucca color
well color guard. That's a variegated one,

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and that's a little bit better behaved
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which of course does grow everywhere.
You know, I actually have some yucca

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that I have removed, attempted to
remove, and it was easier than I

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thought in our sandy soil. If
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I don't know what to tell you. Well, let's see what Stacy thinks

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is easy peasy lemon squeeze in plants
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Gardening friends, and welcome back to
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about to put a plant on trial. That is to say, we're going

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to tell you all about one of
the proven Winner's Color Choice shrubs and you

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get to decide if you're going to
put it in your yard or not.

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And of course today's plan on trial
is going to be an easy shrub.

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But before I get into it,
I want to add another kind of concept

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to the easy to grow discussion,
okay, the low maintenance discussion, and

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that is, you know, I
think what different people consider to be easy

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or low maintenance does vary. You
know, there really aren't any plants that

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you're going to be planting in your
garden that are like completely hands off.

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I mean, there are some,
but you might not be happy with the

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results. So what are your expectations
for the plant based on what you are

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willing to put into it. And
you know, as I'm embarking on this

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adventure of removing my lawn and replacing
it with plants, a lot of people

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are looking at me going, oh, that's going to be a lot of

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work, and I'm looking back at
them going, look at your lawn exactly.

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You know, people think of like
they don't think about the maintenance that

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they have to put into their lawn, Like that's different. Whereas you know,

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with shrubs, perennials, bulbs,
a lot of the things that we're

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talking about, maintenance commitment that you
have is really really minimal. Pretty much

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anything you would grow as long as
you are planting it in the right place

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and not constantly trying to play catch
up with Oh the water it needs and

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the soil is not right, so
every single year I have to amend the

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soil, or I have to change
the pH r I have to do this

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or that or the other. You
know, as long as you are putting

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the right plants in your yard that
once or twice a year where they might

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need some pruning or you know,
something like that, or fertilizing. That's

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very, very minimal compared to what
most people are dealing with in their lung.

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That's well said Stacey. Good point, and it's a great way to

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springboard and say as a show note
that we have breathed the plant lady coming

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up in our fourth segment today,
and we're going to check in with her

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too to get her interpretation of what
an easy plant. You know. And

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I'm a horticulturist, of course,
you know, I have a lot of

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knowledge about a lot of different plants
and a lot of different aspects of plants

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in this noggin. But even I
don't want a high maintenance garden. Like

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I have realized over time that what
I'm looking for in my garden or from

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my garden is not something that like
forces me to do a bunch of stuff,

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Like my plants work for me.
I don't work for my plants,

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and so I don't have, like, through the process of attrition, things

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that I said, Oh, I'm
really now I have a house. I

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really really want to grow this,
and I've been over backwards to try to

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get it. If the deer ate
it, if it turned out it was

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too dry, turned out it was
too sunny, I just let it go.

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I like that approach. You're the
boss apple sauce. That's right.

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So anyway it what is low mains? I think when you're looking for low

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maintenance plants, easy care plants,
easy to grow plants, you do need

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to define for yourself what is it
you're willing to put in. What are

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the reasonable expectations for that plant with
the work that you're going to put in

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and where you're going to plant it. But you know, I know when

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people ask me, hey, like, what's any easy to grow shrub?

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What is the easiest, proven winner's
color choice shrub that I I can grow?

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You know, that's not an easy
question to answer because it does depend

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on a lot of factors like the
light, and not everyone is able to

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just like say, oh, yeah, the spot is full sun or the

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part of the spot is parts on
or whatever if something if pH is an

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issue, say like, you know, I'm not going to recommend an azalea

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if they aren't sure that they have
acidic soil. So when people ask me

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back to again and again and again, and the reason for it is because

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it's very versatile, it's very durable, grows everywhere, and most importantly,

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for the little bit of work you're
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is going to give you huge rewards
because that's what people want ultimately, right.

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They don't want to just say I
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it looks creddy, or it's really
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anything but just like sit there.
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great and they don't have to work
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panicle hydrangees. I love that.
I love that the flowers last for a

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long part of the season, Stacy. And when people walk up to me

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in the garden center or greenhouse,
generally I'll walk them over to the panicled

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hydrange Yeah. And so people think
hydrangees are difficult to grow because all these

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different hydrangeas, there's six main types
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They all get lumped together into one
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don't understand that there are different hydranges
and that of those hydranges, in my

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opinion, panicle hydrangees are the easiest
to grow, the most versatile, the

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most adaptable. So whatever conditions pretty
much that you have, except for poorly

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drained soil that is like the one
thing they really can't take, they can

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grow in any of that. They
can grow in USDA Zone three, they

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can our heat tilert up to USDA
Zone eight, even zone nine in the

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case of limelight Hydrangea, and they
just look amazing. I mean, there

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are few other plants that make such
an impression all year round, but especially

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in summer then a panicle hydrange And
the other beauty Stacey is that you don't

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necessarily have to pick a color because
they tend to change color over the course,

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so you get that exciting you know
show. So we have fourteen different

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panicle hydrangees in the proven Winner's color
Choice line. And so the hard part

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when I'm talking about easy to grow
plants for me is picking which of those

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easy to grow panicle hydranges I am
going to cover in this particular episode of

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Gardening Simplified. So I thought long
and hard about it. I looked at

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what I've already covered in terms of
panicle hydranges. Some of my absolute favorites

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have already been covered, like puffer
fish, like Bobo, and so I

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went with Little Quickfire HYDRANGEF for today's
plant on Trial. Love it. I

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love it too, And the reason
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it's right there in the name Little
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know, certainly back in the day
when PG was really the only one that

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was around, are tard of a
Those are huge plants. You know.

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You can easily find mature PG hydranges
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older neighborhood, that are fifteen even
twenty feet tall, whereas these newer varieties

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like Little Quickfire reach only three to
five feet tall and wide. So not

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only are they just as easy to
grow as other panicle hydranges, they're a

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lot easier to use in your landscape
because you don't have to worry about them

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overgrowing your dining room windows, are
growing up to your roof or outgrowing the

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space. They stay really nice and
tidy, and that smaller size also gives

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them a lot of versatility in the
landscape, so you can go ahead and

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add them to your flower garden if
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that, you can use them in
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a low hedge, as a specimen. They're just a really really versatile plant,

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so that you can get that easy
care, you know, without having

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to think too much about like where
am I going to fit? Yeah,

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sure it's easy care, but I
don't have space for a ten foot by

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ten foot plant. You know.
I love your choice, though, Stacey,

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because I chose this plant, Little
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daughter was going to be getting married
in the backyard in June and I felt

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it was reliable to be in bloom
by the wedding day. Yes, that's

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so. Little Quickfire is a dwarf
version of Quickfire, and quick Quickfire is

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a variety that we have offered for
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us from Mark Bulk, a wonderful
plantsman in the Netherlands. He has a

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nursery in boss Coop, the big
nursery district in the Netherlands. But it's

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a beautiful plant and it is the
earliest blooming so for us here in Michigan,

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Quickfire Hydrangeas are typically in bloom by
fourth of July. Okay, if

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you live in a warmer climate,
that's going to be a little bit earlier.

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If you live in a much colder
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little bit later. But it reaches
about six to eight feet tall and wide,

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so not huge, but definitely the
kind of plant that you can't just

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impulse purchase and say, oh,
I'll just find a place for this rather

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large shrub. So in comes a
little quickfire that was tier by our new

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plant development team, and it reaches
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so really nice, versatile size.
And it still has that very early

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bloom time, so blooming by early
July for US. And this early bloom

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time has a couple of advantages that
I think a lot of people may not

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realize. Number one is that if
you live in a very cold climate,

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so it's hardy down to USDA Zone
three, So if you're in the USD

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Zone three, for even USDA Zone
five, if you live like up North

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Mackinaw Island or out east in a
cooler area, sometimes if the summer is

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especially cool, it might your panicle
hydrangers might not flower until the end of

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August. Kids are going back to
school, you're thinking about moms and pumpkins,

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and here comes your panicle hydrange like
it's summertime. Let's party, and

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you're like, wait what. So
the nice thing, especially if you live

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in a cold climate, is that
you're going to have that early bloom time.

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You're gonna be able to enjoy it
more for the summer. And not

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only that, but because it's blooming
earlier, it's going to change color earlier.

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hydrangea that start out white and then

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they take on various shades of pink, red, burgundy, or a combination

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of all of those as the season
progresses. So the earlier your panicle hydrangea

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blooms, the longer you're going to
be able to enjoy the color aspect of

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that hydrangea. And so that's another
really big advantage, especially if you live

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in a colder climate. And I
love the color of both quick Fire and

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Little Quickfire. It's a deep red
and I love the pinks. You know,

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I'm not generally a pink person in
my garden, with a couple of

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exceptions like el nin yoch Talpa,
which I adore, But this is a

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nice deep red. It's also a
lace cap flower. I was going to

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say that lace cap fabulous for Pollinators. The Fabulous for Pollinators just has a

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beautiful informal look that I personally love. And here I have been talking so

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much about how much I love the
little Quickfire, I didn't even get to

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talking about how easy it is to
care for. And we're out of time,

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but we have lots of information about
that, and of course I will

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put it all in the show now, but take it from me, it's

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easy to grow, it's versatile,
full sun parts Son here in the North,

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no problem parts Son in the South. Will put all the details at

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Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. Right
now, we're going to take it break.

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When we come back, we're answering
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Choice. We've got a shrub for
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Creating's Gardening friends, and welcome back
to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time

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for us to answer your garden questions. The season is in swing. I'll

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let people have questions. I even
have questions when I'm out there. What

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I do if I have a question
is I don't do anything. I wait

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until I can find out the answer. I don't act on impulse. Well

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sometimes they do, but I try
not to. I talk to myself.

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That works, Yeah, I do. Do you give yourself getting I asked

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the question and then I answer my
question. Well, sometimes that does work.

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It's like you just pretend you're here
in studio A, and you're and

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you know we're talking, and yeah, that's true. Sometimes you can talk

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yourself up, talk yourself through a
problem. But if you do have a

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garden issue, you can reach us
at help HLP at Gardening Simplified on air,

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or just go to Gardeningsimplified on Air
dot com click the contact tab there.

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Also, we don't just take your
questions, we take your garden celebrations

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and accomplishments as well. And we
got a great one this week. We

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heard from a listener named Colin in
Usdazo nine B. I love it.

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I know you love that. I'm
sure you're jealous. So he's in Central

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Florida and he sent four fabulous pictures
which you're gonna be able to see if

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you're watching YouTube, or of course
you can go to Gardening Simplified on air

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dot com to see the photos that
Colin shared with us. And here's what

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you have to say. I would
love to share pics of my first banana

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harvest on my beautiful banana tree.
One harvest gave me one hundred and twenty

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bananas. Oh man, and I
have a fresh new bunch coming along next.

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You could say it's going bananas as
Beethoven would say, banana wow.

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He'd be proud of them. Yes. So, with annuals being planted all

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over the country this time of year, I also wanted to share picks of

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my super Tunia Vista bubblegums that I
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Yes, they are winter annuals here
in Florida, and they flourish.

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They still look great. So here's
some more bananas and blooms over the summer.

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You know, Proven Winters does trial
annuals in Florida in winter just for

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that purpose. So December twenty six
that's fantastic. While everybody's returning gifts at

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the department store, Colin is planting
supertunias and those bananas. Right, you

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would think he was living in Banana
Stan or New Peeland, but he's in

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Florida, Central Florida. I want
to talk to yeah, So maybe we'll

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set something up, Colin, if
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love, bananas are very cool plants, and a lot of people don't realize

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how bananas grow. And you can
actually see this in the picture that Colin

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sent. So they have these long
flowers that come down on these long stems,

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and the petals kind of peel back
and reveal the over or the banana

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fruit, and those get pollinated and
turn into the bananas. So Colin's pictures

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are a great example of how unique
bananas actually form within their flower and how

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beautiful they are. So can you
even imagine have it like just going out

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to your backyard and being like,
guess I'll get a banana for breakfast.

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They're growing right here on my tree. So you know that one's for all

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the warm climate gardeners who wish they
could grow lilacs or peonies or whatever thing

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we can grow up here. We
are jealous of your bananas, and Stacey,

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the pictures of the yard and the
super tunias beautiful. Oh my gosh,

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did you see the one is like
he's got like a it looks like

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a sunshine. The gust drum and
one of the supertunies is creeping up to

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the top of that because they're so
robust down there, Colin, he's not

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monkeying around. He's doing a great
job there in central Florida. And thank

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you for listening watching the show too, Yeah, definitely, so definitely want

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to take a look at those.
It really goes to show you what a

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different world it must be gardening in
Florida versus gardening up here. Right,

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Oh, you got it, So
what do you got in the mailbag?

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Traying sends a question, probably an
issue for a lot of people. Hello,

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Stacey and Rick, help the dreaded
rose slug is back. Besides spraying?

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What can I do to protect my
roses? Are there natural predators that

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prey on them? I've tried blasting
them off with my watering hose, but

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they're still very small. I'm not
so sure it's effective. And of course

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we're talking here about the dreaded rose
slug, but it's not really a slug

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in that sense of the word,
right, now now it's just called a

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rose slug. It's actually well,
I guess technically it would be considered like

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a maggot because it is the fly
a softly larva. But they have the

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unique characteristic of turning the identical color
to your rose foliage. They are very

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hard to spot at first, especially
when they're very small, as Treang says

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that hers are. And uh,
but you find them not necessarily looking for

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them. But when they're very small, they make this very distinctive window like

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damage on your rose because they are
so small, they're little worm jaws or

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little softly jaws can't get through the
full leaf tissue, and so they end

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up making a window because they only
get through part of it, so it

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doesn't go all the way through it. They can't their jaws aren't big enough

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yet, so it's very distinctive.
You can recognize that. And then when

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you start seeing those little windows appealing
appearing on your rose leaves, then you

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go, oh, better turn those
over because the softlies do feed from the

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underside typically, and then if your
eyes are good, the light's good,

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you will be able to identify that
little rose slug and you can just handpick

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them hands squish them, depending on
how severe the infestation is. However,

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that may be much easier said than
done, because they are where there's one

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rose slug, there are many rose
slugs. Slugs and a little bit of

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a rose slug infestation. Your rose
is going to be able to be fine,

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it's not really going to harm it. But I have seen very very

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severe ones that basically eat all the
foliage off a rose, and even really

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vigorous landscape roses aren't going to be
able to withstand a whole whole lot of

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that before it starts to severely weaken
them because I can't quoto synthesize they have

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no leaves, so a couple of
things. You know, it always helps

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to take the IPM approach and to
learn about the life cycle of the of

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the passage we're trying to manage.
And in the case of the rose softly,

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what happens is these softlies are going
to metamorphosize next. So they're going

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to overwinter under your rose in the
soil as a pupa or kind of like

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you can think of it as like
a coon if you're not familiar with this

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stage of an insect life cycle.
So the overwinter is pupa in the soil

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and then next spring they burst out. They may they let eggs on your

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rose. It's just emerging and the
cycle is repeated. So one of the

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things that you can do is simply
to cultivate around the base of your row.

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So if you have mulch, you
know, clear that away, fluff

403
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.839
it up, and then use like
a rake to our a you know,

404
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.759
little hand cultivator to kind of lightly
rough up the soil. And what that's

405
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:32.720
going to do is expose the cocoons
that are that are down there. So

406
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.039
you want to do this probably more
like in the July, August September time

407
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.519
frame. Do that, you know, maybe once a month, just go

408
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.240
out there, mix it all up. Birds et cetera will take care of

409
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.519
any cocoons and that can help a
lot. When I was researching this,

410
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.119
that's what I saw over and over
again in university websites. I agree one

411
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.920
hundred percent. And if you do
it at that time of the year,

412
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.240
Stacey the roots. If you do
any root damage, you shouldn't, but

413
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.079
if you do some root damage,
the rose can easily recover. For yeah,

414
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.519
that's a great point. And you
know roses we often talk about plants

415
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.279
that are shallowly rooted. Roses aren't
a terrible offender that way. They aren't

416
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.799
like really shallow where you're going to
be hitting a bunch of roots. I

417
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.000
will put some links in the show
notes trying so you can do some research

418
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.319
and read more on this life cycle. But do be aware if we have

419
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.519
listeners from warmer climates. I don't
know exactly where trag is located. There

420
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:27.000
are some species of rose slugs or
in warmer climates they have two generations a

421
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.279
year, so this timing will only
work if you're in a cooler climate and

422
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:36.000
are dealing with a one generation a
season rose slug. But to my knowledge,

423
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:40.359
no, there's no specific natural predator. If a bird can see it,

424
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.000
it will certainly eat it, just
like it would any other little crater

425
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.599
that it found on a plant.
But you can't always count on that.

426
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:53.119
So sounds good, all right.
Myra planted two gentlemen lace Russian sage two

427
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.480
years ago. I loved that plant. They both did wonderfully last year,

428
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.279
but this year one of them came
back all ten looking, it's half the

429
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:06.720
size of the other one, and
the third year being in the ground instead

430
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.759
of leaping it's all rough and woody
on the bottom like its cousin lavender.

431
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:15.960
That's a good analogy, right,
What can I do? Can it be

432
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:21.039
replanted elsewhere? I did want to
mention a programming note here, Stacey,

433
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:26.279
that in my research I always thought
that Russian sage was named after the great

434
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:33.599
General Leonoid Petrovsky. He was instrumental
in dealing with the German invasion of the

435
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.079
Soviet Union, and part of the
reason they named the plant after him was

436
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:44.480
because the pungent smell of Russian sage
smelled like the boots of Russian soldiers.

437
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.160
Well, I guess I was wrong. No, it's not the case.

438
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:56.720
It was named by a Russian botanist
around eighteen forty after Perovsky, the Turkestani

439
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.720
governor of the Russian province of Orenburg. So if you ever have one of

440
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:07.160
those Cliff Claven cheers moments and somebody
asks you, now you know there you

441
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.680
go? Okay? I did not
know that, So Mayra send pictures.

442
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.240
Mayra did send pictures of her Russian
sage, So that is always very helpful

443
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.000
when we're diagnosing issues. So overall, I don't think that the plant looks

444
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.960
too bad. Russian sage is what
is considered a subshrub, and I'm glad

445
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.920
that she mentioned lavender because lavender is
also a subshrub. So basically what that

446
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.640
means is that they have a bit
of a woody base but herbaceous on the

447
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.119
top, and so that's totally common. So you mentioned the woody basse,

448
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.519
that's totally within the regular behavior of
this plant. So that's nothing to be

449
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.480
concerned of in and of itself.
And when I look at the plant,

450
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.759
I do see that it's a bit
stunted compared to its neighbor. But I

451
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.319
did notice something else in the photos, and that is that there is landscape

452
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:53.039
fabric, and so there's landscape fabric
under the mulch, and what that does

453
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.880
is that keeps a lot of moisture
around the plant. And Russian sage is

454
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.839
a very drought not just drought tolerant, but it wants really dry and well

455
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.640
drained conditions. So if it's getting
overly wet, especially if it's wet in

456
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:13.039
the winter or the spring when it's
emerging, if you had very heavy clay

457
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.119
soil and it was very cold climate, the plant would just die. So

458
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.960
it's kind of even amazing that it's
staying alive and has lived as well as

459
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.359
it has under those conditions. So
Myira, I think that the best thing

460
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:27.599
that you can do is to brush
back that mulch, cut away the landscape

461
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.519
fabric for a good eighteen inches around
the plant, and then put the mulch

462
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.839
back. That's fine, but the
landscape fabric really makes a difference in how

463
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.519
much moisture it holds into the soil
perfectly so ye, So that's what I

464
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.720
would do. If you do want
to transplanet, that's perfectly fine too.

465
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.400
You can do that now, but
ideally I would wait until next spring or

466
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.079
this fall when it is dormant.
We got to take a little break.

467
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.240
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472
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Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. Branching news Here on the show and

473
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:28.279
for today's Branching News in interview with
a wonderful lady, Breathe the plant Lady.

474
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.079
We're going to talk to her.
And by the way, her website

475
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:37.680
bree grows dot com, so that's
Burie grows dot com. And I was

476
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.240
thinking, Stacy, if we were
going to talk about easy plants, we

477
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.279
should talk to Breed for a number
of reasons. Number one, of course

478
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:51.640
she knows her stuff. Number two, she's down there in hot North Carolina.

479
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:58.000
And number three, talk about an
energetic and enthusiastic person who plants all

480
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.839
kinds of stuff. I can't keep
up with her, and I think she's

481
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.200
the perfect person to ask about easy
plants. Well, you know, the

482
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.559
busier the gardener, the more they
need some easy plants, otherwise they won't

483
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:14.639
have time for anything exactly. So, Bri, welcome to the Gardening Simplified

484
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:16.719
Show. And I got to mention
right off the bat, I noticed that

485
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:24.599
you just got an award Club Horticulture
Commendation for the Garden Club of America.

486
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.639
Now that's really cool. What a
great recognition for you. Oh, thank

487
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.559
you so much, it thinks for
having me back. Yes, it was

488
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:40.760
such a surprise and an honor to
receive that. I love the Garden Club

489
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.119
of America for all that they do, and they're horticulture outreach and well,

490
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.960
I have it hanging probably on my
wall right by my diploma. It is

491
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.280
much deserved, Bri, and you
are one of the most enthusiastic gardeners that

492
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.440
I know, and I encourage people
to go to your website Brie grows dot

493
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.960
com. And of course Brie has
also written some books, so make sure

494
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.800
to take a look at that also. So, Brie, is there anything

495
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:14.360
easy to grow down there? I'm
saying down there because we're broadcasting from Michigan,

496
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:16.400
but down there, and of course
you would know, Bri, you

497
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:22.239
are a Michigan native, right,
that's right. I'm a former Mischigander.

498
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.639
You know. I've been in North
Carolina now twenty two years, and we

499
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:30.920
actually have a lot of Michiganders living
here in the Raleigh area, so I

500
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:37.679
feel like I'm in good company.
This is a challenging environment to grow in

501
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:43.960
because frankly, everything that you do
in the North is upside down down here.

502
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.320
You know, we have a twelve
month growing season and a lot of

503
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:52.840
the plants that you would grow as
summer annuals in Michigan are winter annuals here,

504
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.840
and that takes a lot of effort
to navigate figuring out the seasonality of

505
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:02.360
plants. The plantags don't give you
that detail, right, Yeah, I

506
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.360
mean they're for the whole country,
not just you know, regional plant tags

507
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.960
as you no doubt no would drive
this industry crazy. So it does take

508
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.320
you know, that regional expertise to
really be able to maximize those unique opportunities.

509
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.519
It does, and I feel and
endlessen no of job security as more

510
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:27.840
Northerners moves south but want to continue
to garden. And for sure, I

511
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:35.000
should say my favorite easy plant for
the summer is mangve. I am mad

512
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:40.000
about mangove, like irrational, I
am trying to collect every variety they have.

513
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.400
I think I currently have a live
wall filled with mangove. Wow.

514
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.880
Actually I'm going to divide them so
that both sides of the wall are planted

515
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.320
with them, because that's what rational
persons would do. And I think I

516
00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:00.639
have almost one hundred individual plants.
No, I don't know that our listeners

517
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.480
know what a mangave is, and
they're probably sitting there going is she's saying

518
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:09.239
mangave I know agave, I don't
know mangave. So for the enlightenment of

519
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:15.440
our listeners, can you tell them
what a mangave is. Well, mangave

520
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:21.280
was actually bred and created up near
you at Walter's Garden. And it's an

521
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.320
ener generic hybrid, which for plant
people that's super special. That's like putting

522
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:32.039
a cat and a dog together.
And it's a Manfreda agave hybrid. And

523
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:37.320
what you end up with is this
agave structure that isn't prickly, that has

524
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.320
really cool colors and textures. And
some of the varieties have spots and some

525
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.079
are stripes, and some get really
big and some are perfect for pots and

526
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.760
they're really amazing. They don't need
a lot of water, which is the

527
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.719
main thing. They just look fabulous
and the dear leave them alone. So

528
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.719
if there's all these reasons to collect
mangave's, they're not reliably party in the

529
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.440
winter here that they make great house
plans. So it's one of those plans

530
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.960
that you can bring inside and enjoy
during the cool season and then put outside

531
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:17.239
and forget it all summer long.
It's just everybody needs mangave, period.

532
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.400
That's fabulous. Where Brie, where
do you store yours in winter? Is

533
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.880
it an unheated shed? Where do
you put them? I actually with them

534
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:31.039
in the carall space with grow lights. Wow. Wow. And actually they're

535
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:35.679
really fun to show people at dinner
parties because then it just makes you seem

536
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:40.320
that much more insane, the underneath
of your house completely full of magha.

537
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.360
So what's your oldest mangave, then, the one that you've had the longest.

538
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.920
I have had Kaleidoscope was my very
first, okay, and it's ups

539
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.480
pretty readily. So it's one of
those that every year when I pot it

540
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:00.239
up, I can divide it and
share it with people. And I was

541
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.400
fortunate, you know, I worked
with hands Hanson, well, worked with

542
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.679
him loosely when I was the production
manager at Plant Delight, and he's a

543
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:14.119
longtime friend. He's the breeder of
the mangavis, and he sent the to

544
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.960
trial just to see if this is
part of the original trial pack, and

545
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:22.599
I really just I cherished in so
many ways. Hands down, they are

546
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:29.119
the plant that every visitor asks about
because they're so dynamic and interesting that you're

547
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.239
not going to poke your eye out
with them. And I don't grow any

548
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:37.440
agave at all because I'm afraid I'll
hurt myself. Sure, yeah, myself

549
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.320
full permission to grow all the manngavis. And a lot of people are even

550
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:43.360
afraid, you know, if you're
not going to hurt yourself. They're afraid

551
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.920
of their pets, cats, you
know, dogs, kids. There's a

552
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.320
lot of reasons to be concerned.
Now, I would think that most people

553
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.719
are surprised that you can grow them
so successfully in a human climate like North

554
00:39:52.719 --> 00:40:00.000
Carolina and they just thrive. It's
incredible. They really don't require desert conditions,

555
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:06.719
and that's partly the Manfreda you know
tendencies coming out. It is.

556
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.320
They are just they're vigorous and well, they're just amazing. And actually when

557
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.199
they flower, the flower spikes are
really impressive, just like in agave.

558
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.679
You know, they might go eight
to ten foot tall. They attract so

559
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:24.519
many different pollinators. It's really really
a site to behold. Wow, Yeah,

560
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:29.880
I understand what you're saying about the
agave and herding yourself. We used

561
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:36.119
to ship them up from Florida up
here to Michigan and then unpackaging them bore

562
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.039
you reach into that box. There
are times when you, yeah, especially

563
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:43.400
you could poke your eyes out with
that thing. It's like the the BB

564
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.920
Christmas story, right, Yeah,
exactly, now, Brie, we were

565
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.800
talking also about the fact that Stacey
and I both feel that herbs would probably

566
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:59.239
be a good plant to put in
the easy category. Would you agree,

567
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.880
and if so, which of the
herbs do you think are easy to grow?

568
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.880
I absolutely agree, and I always
say herbs are the gateway of food

569
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:14.800
scaping. But my hands down,
without hesitation, favorite herb is a maslbasil.

570
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.840
That is a game changing plant.
It's incredible. It thrives through the

571
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.199
summer. You can make enough pesto
to feed your entire county because it's so

572
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:30.440
vigorous, you know, and it's
just it's delicious, it's disease free.

573
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.599
I just love a masalbasel. It's
the one dasel that I think no one

574
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.519
can live a happy life about.
I agree, yeah, And you know,

575
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.280
it's so popular. Honestly, I
have been looking for it. I

576
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:45.000
think it's since it's got such a
reputation for all of that disease resistance and

577
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.199
everything. You have to snap it
up when you find it because otherwise it

578
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:52.039
will sell out. Yeah, it's
a no brainer. I call it basil

579
00:41:52.199 --> 00:42:00.320
instinct. Bree grows is the website
Brie grows dot com the Plant Lady look

580
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.239
for on YouTube. Of course,
she speaks all around the country and has

581
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:10.039
written books, and of course I
got to know Brie based on the food

582
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.440
scaping book Brie. If you were
to pick, other than herbs, a

583
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.639
vegetable plant that you like to grow, that you think is easy peasy,

584
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.519
what do you think? Oh?
Well, I wish I could say tomatoes,

585
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:29.519
But tomatoes in the South break your
heart in a thousand different ways,

586
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.079
and so they keep you humble.
So I guess they're I guess they're good

587
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.639
for one thing. But really I
think I'm torn between eggplants and peppers.

588
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:45.000
I like how productive they are,
how heat tolerance. I have this terrible

589
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.800
tickborn illness called alpha gal where I'm
anaphylactically allergic to everything from a mammal.

590
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:57.559
So I grow a lot of vegetables
just because I eat more vegetables than the

591
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.800
average person, because it's kind of
all I'm left with to be able to

592
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.119
eat. And I like how reliable
eggshants and peppers are that I can go

593
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.679
out and harvest every day. I
don't have a store a whole bunch in

594
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:14.920
the refrigerator and you know, we're
just getting into that season. I also

595
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.519
kind of live on zucchini, so
we're just getting into the season where zucchini

596
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.360
will start producing. And you know
those are those are three vegetables that are

597
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.559
your daily staples for me. And
when I don't have to buy them from

598
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.559
the store, it feels so much
better, but also a luxury to be

599
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:35.559
able to go in your backyard and
get them. It's like the stores in

600
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:39.880
your backyard and exactly, and it
saves a lot of space in your refrigerator.

601
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.920
You know, we've been laughing.
I eat like five heads of cauliflower

602
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:53.800
a week, and that's like having
five basketballs, right. I grow cauliflower

603
00:43:53.920 --> 00:44:00.000
in the winter season just because there's
not room in the refrigerator for my cauliflower.

604
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.159
Have it, Brie? Are you
like me where I especially when we

605
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:10.559
get to summer, I absolutely crave
stuffed peppers. I love stuffed green peppers,

606
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.280
yes I do. And I of
course can have them with ground turkey,

607
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:21.440
so I don't have to be completely
deprived. Even though I'm mammal free,

608
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:28.239
I'm unfortunate that I can still eat
fish and poul frey safely. I

609
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.840
love stuffed peppers, all right,
So in the heat of summer. You

610
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.679
need some shade there in North Carolina. Brie, how about a tree that

611
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.239
you think is really rewarding and easy
to grow, or maybe one on your

612
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:46.360
property that you really enjoy. What
do you think, ooh, a tree

613
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:52.760
for shade. I immediately went to
Hydransas for shade because I just watched and

614
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.000
cound my yard and realize I have
fifty seven coldivars. Wow, And I

615
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:06.599
told myself that I wasn't a hide
your person happen? What is going on?

616
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:14.800
But a tree? Well, I'm
really encouraged by the plant breeding that's

617
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:19.880
being done at Empty State through doctor
Tom Rainey. And this year he gave

618
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:27.400
me the new hybrid dogwoods. It's
three quarters native one quarter KUSA and it

619
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:32.440
has really great disease resistance and you
know it's going to just long term be

620
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:38.400
the option to have because disease is
wiping out our native dogwoods. And I

621
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:44.920
just really appreciate his proactiveness in breeding
for the future and recognizing the problems.

622
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.679
And I feel honored to have one
of the very first ones to be planted.

623
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:54.519
And every day I like go out
and talk to it. I do

624
00:45:54.639 --> 00:46:00.079
have it planted instade it's too young. It didn't bloom this year, but

625
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:05.079
it's I think settling in well,
and I do think it's a plant that

626
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:10.320
will be a pretty dominant fixture in
the industry in years to come, so

627
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.800
be on the lookout for it.
I don't think it technically has a name

628
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:19.320
yet. We got a little steak
for you here. Well, we do

629
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.440
sing Doctor Rainey's praises on the show
all the time. Of course, he

630
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:30.239
is an absolutely brilliant plant breeder and
problem solver, and we're so here in

631
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:35.840
North Carolina. We feel very fortunate
to claim his and claim him as ours

632
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.760
in He's making the world a better
place every single day. It's amazing how

633
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.239
his breeding has touched so many people's
lives and gardens. For sure, you

634
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:51.960
are one of the most enthusiastic gardeners
I know, and even one hundred degree

635
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.280
humid heat in North Carolina isn't going
to stop you. So tell our listeners

636
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.800
and our viewers, Brie, what
are you excited about this year? What

637
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:06.960
are you really looking forward to?
Well, I went down to a nursery

638
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:15.360
near Wilmington and brought a prius load
of rock and fuchia sow you and I

639
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.440
am here rationally excited about this plant. So they're already in full bloom.

640
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.400
They're only going to get bigger and
better. And the hummingbirds have recently arrived

641
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:30.079
and they love this plant so much
they do. I'm actually going back down

642
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.800
next week and I think I'm going
to get another previous load. So which

643
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:38.400
is your favorite color of the series. I'm curious. Well, I love

644
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:44.480
them all, but the one that
I keep gravitating towards is fusia. And

645
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:49.719
it's really funny because I didn't think
of myself as a pink person. Now

646
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.400
I have this like entire front border
that's just like right pink, and it

647
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:59.880
looks awesome. It looks beautiful with
my blue house. And I also got

648
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.400
a bunch of the white proven winner
Klaomis, you know that are sterile,

649
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.280
and they just are so reliable blooming. It's that fusia and white together.

650
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:15.679
It's gorgeous. It's like drop dead, stop in your tracks. My neighbors

651
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.400
stop and come over and take pictures
and they're like, well, you just

652
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.639
please label more so that we know
what to buy. You also like a

653
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:29.119
QR code in your front yard and
like stand for the plant list. I

654
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.639
really do you need. What I
need is a tech savvy intern. Anyone

655
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.760
out there that's tech savvy, get
interested me. That's great. You know,

656
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.320
I'm with you on that hummingbird thing. The rock and fuchia. I

657
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.000
put them in pots all the way
leading up my front steps, and uh,

658
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.719
you'd be happy to hear on the
lake shore here in Michigan just this

659
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.320
past week. Yes, mine are
in bloom two and I saw hummingbirds already,

660
00:48:53.360 --> 00:49:00.199
so it's fantastic. Oh that's so
exciting, you know that. And

661
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.000
that vermillionaire cufia that is one of
mine. Must have every year too.

662
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:10.000
Yeah. Me, that's actually been
hearty. So it's really win because they

663
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:15.239
come back it must get huge.
Then that's really cool. I plant the

664
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.480
die all the way down, but
they do, they get like three by

665
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.360
three. I love it. I
planted one this year, Bree, based

666
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:28.480
on Stacey nudging me on that plant. She loves that plant, and so

667
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.920
I'm giving it a try this year. I'm looking forward to it. Oh

668
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:36.360
you will not be disappointed. But
I always joke I don't want to be

669
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.880
the person who just like plants the
same annuals every year, but I have

670
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.199
turned into that because I love that
plant so much. I just I simply

671
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.719
can't have a summer without it.
I totally agree, And to be honest,

672
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:52.599
I hope more breeding continues with kufia
because there are a lot of species

673
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.480
that really haven't been explored, and
they're so reliable that they bloom for the

674
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:02.280
entire growing season. There's so many
colors and shapes and forms. And I

675
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.760
would love to see kufia bread for
hanging baskets so they can dangle down.

676
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.760
And you know, I have I
have all these dreams for plant readers.

677
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.960
So if anyone's listening exactly, can
you just call me and we'll go over

678
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:25.519
my whistles brie uh. Both Stacy
and I really like the summerrific hibiscus,

679
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.159
the dinner type dinner plate type hibiscus
uh in North Carolina. With all the

680
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.960
sun and heat that you have,
how does a plant like that do there?

681
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.599
They do really well that we do
have some pretty serious insect problems.

682
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:47.760
A lot of times they will just
almost look like lace because become no foliage

683
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.800
left. And in part that's because
I don't I don't spray any testicides.

684
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:58.679
It's kind of like, well,
it's still a flower. A lot of

685
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.000
I'm very sticky when I'm taking the
pictures of my high biscus. There's almost

686
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:08.000
no green on the leaves, but
the flowers are amazing, and you know,

687
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:14.000
I like to underplant those with different
colors of colias, different varieties of

688
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:21.480
colius like Elbrido and dipped and wine
and proven Winners has really done the most

689
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:25.039
incredible job with their colius collection.
And I know a lot of these are

690
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.320
coming from doctor Dave Clark out of
Florida, which means they're really good performers

691
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.360
for me, because you know,
they like heat and humidity, and they're

692
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.719
just so reliable for providing that ooms
that you want. Even in the hottest

693
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:44.400
days of the summer. They don't
lose their color and vigor. Wow,

694
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.320
that's saying something too. Yeah,
you bet so. As we enter the

695
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.119
heat of summer. Before we let
you go here, Bri give our listeners

696
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:58.280
viewers some advice on dealing with the
heat. I'm not talking about us personally,

697
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:04.039
but I'm talking about as gardeners having
success in the heat of summer.

698
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.519
How do you approach it? What's
your go to strategy in the heat of

699
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:16.400
summer? Soil prep without even I'm
glad you said that the more time you

700
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:22.000
send adding organic matter to the ground
you grow in, the easier the experience

701
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.280
will be, the less irrigating you
have to do, the stronger your plants

702
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:29.239
will be. I mean not to
say that you're going to go without watering,

703
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.920
because the weather is usually not that
reliable. It gives you the rain

704
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:36.679
exactly when you need it. But
when you put your time and energy into

705
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:43.280
soil, every other part of gardening
becomes more fun. Add more organic matter,

706
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:49.440
always and forever, no question about
it. She is Breathe the Plant

707
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:53.679
Lady. Look for on YouTube,
of course, her website bree grows dot

708
00:52:53.719 --> 00:53:00.280
com. Look for her books Breed. Just greatly appreciate your enthusiasm and again

709
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:08.639
congratulations on that award Club Horticulture Commendation
from the Garden Club of America. But

710
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:15.079
I really think it suits you well
because you're enthusiasm for gardening and what you

711
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:20.039
do for the industry is much appreciated
by many, ourselves included, and we

712
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.639
appreciate you joining us on the Gardening
Simplified Show. Well, you are so

713
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:28.519
welcome, and thank you so much. I love catching up with you and

714
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.360
talking about playing. Thanks so much
for it's always a pleasure. Good luck

715
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:37.920
gardening this year, Ah Houston,
The ship is at stable one. Those

716
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:42.159
were the words of Jim Lovell An
Apollo thirteen. Today's show feels like a

717
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:46.119
rocket ship to me. It's so
much information packed in and stacy. Always

718
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.199
a privilege and pleasure to do the
show. Likewise, Ray and thanks so

719
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.519
much, Adriana, thank you,
and most of all, thanks to you

720
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.599
thanks for tuning us in. Again
a reminder, we are a podcast,

721
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:04.119
we are a radio show, and
we are a YouTube show. So pick

722
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:08.159
which one you like or pick all
three. We'd love that and have yourself

723
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:09.280
agreeable. Thank you.

