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Get some facts and come back and
Seebee. Get some facts and come back

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and Seebee. Don't throw up salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and Seebee. You can't
handle the true now told our players you

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here looking in the mirror.
But I look good. I got my

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extra bands on, I got my
other shoes. Be a doll. We

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don't need no meals. We don't
need no cats. We need more dolls.

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Why not a detained Oh you're not
that detained. We weren't good.

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There's no sense of asking me things
about the game. I'm telling you.

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We laid an egg. So I'm
not gonna break it down for you.

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He sucks, He sucks. He
laid an egg. That's all I have

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to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down for

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you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to

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figure it out any way. Shown
trying to figure it out on a Monday

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with you. Final hour of Exus
and Bros. Welcome Myer hotlines open for

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eight sixty six eight three, eight
forty eight forty three. The text line

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Sports Radio to twenty one thousand.
I'll be honest with the ben. I

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really thought people would be tearing up
the phone lines. Yeah, fencerhtoricals,

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Yeah, I'm And we kept it
alive for the entire first hour. I

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thought there was there would be more
emotion from Tigers fans. Maybe there's not

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as many baseball fans out there as
we thought. That's a little surprising.

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I want to get to some football
information here, but before I do,

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Jim Bowden writes for The Athletic.
He ranked just this morning it was released,

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and that's the reason I bring it
up. I teased football going into

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the break and for good and then
this was just sent out. Jim Bowden

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ranked the teams that will either make
a move at the trade deadline to add

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or not. There are thirty teams
in Major League Baseball, thirty. Jim

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Bowden ranks the Yankees, for example, the number one team to add to

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their roster. You know, you
go into these right around trade deadline stuff.

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Are you a quote buyer or seller? Now, keep in mind,

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there's fifty seven days. It's a
long time, but I can go by

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quick. Fifty seven days until the
trade deadline. He ranks the teams he

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feels, based on the first couple
of months of the season, will be

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a buyer. So he breaks it
down into tears. Buyers are the Yankees

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and the Phillies. The Orioles would
be one of those. The Dodgers would

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be one of those teams. No
surprise there. He ranks Cleveland is fifth.

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So he breaks it down to various
levels. Thirty teams in Major League

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Baseball. Where do you think the
Tigers rank based on this guy used to

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be a GM does good but sometime
hoarlier than thou work on Major League Baseball

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Radio. Where do you think he
ranks the Tigers in terms of buying or

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selling? In terms of being a
buyer, they are out of the thirty

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teams. Where do you think he
ranks them in terms of needing to be

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a buyer? He ranks them so
it's either a buyer seller or a team

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in between kind of stuck, and
the Tigers are kind of stuck. Based

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off what Jim Bowden thinks the teams
in between the Tigers at eighteen, Tampa

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at nineteen, Saint Louis at twenty, Washington twenty one, this Pittsburgh at

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twenty two. This is not a
group that makes you jump up and down

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and feel like, yes, we're
close. Now they're not a seller.

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He doesn't have them as a seller
right now. That's for the Mets and

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the A's and the Rockies, the
Angels and the Marlins and the White Sox.

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But here's what he writes regarding the
Tigers at eighteen and being the first

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team. I guess there's two ways
to look at it. They're the first

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team that is under his terminology,
a team in between, or they're the

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last team who might be a buyer. Here's what he writes. Tiger's off

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to a slow start, ranking seventeenth
and runs scored and twelfth in team era,

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very deceiving. Riley Green has nine
homers, He's now got ten.

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Spencer Torkolsen only four that in two
to one and is reportedly being optioned to

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Triple A, which is true.
Javier Bias looks done his words. Rookie

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Colt Keith has been a huge disappointment
again his words, and probably should be

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optioned to the Miners. Therein lies
a different issue. So many issues with

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the Tigers. That's an issue too. He can't he's not even being optioned

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to the Miners. Who's who even
used to take his place? He continues,

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Trek Scoubel has been the one real
bright spot, going seven to one

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with a two point zero one ERA. Among the top side Young Award candidates,

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Jack Flaherty, Casey Maisriees Olsen have
combined to win just four games despite

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pitching much better than that, especially
Olsen and Flaherty. Only Olsen and Flarity.

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I think here's what might make you
shake your head a little bit while

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you're driving early trade deadline needs.
Tigers need to improve their lineup. Thanks

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Jim, appreciate that couldn't have figured
that one out by herself. When you're

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not scoring runs and you don't have
power. Thanks, very very important.

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Tigers need to improve their lineup,
starting rotation, and bullpen depth if they

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want to remain in the hunt for
a playoff spot. First of all,

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Jim and I know when this is
written, but they're ten games back.

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They're not in a playoff hunt,
all right, They're ten games back in

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the division. This this escalated quickly. They're not in a playoff on Let's

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get that. Let's make that very
clear, can we please? I want

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you to think about this for a
second, Jim, before you write this

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instead of just being very generic.
All Right, the Tigers are ten games

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back in the division, and there
are four games back of the final wildcard

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spot, which to you may think, oh, that's not that big of

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a deal. Well that is until
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of them and playing much better baseball
and two teams I would say three teams

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behind them that I think are better
in general, Tampa, Toronto and Houston.

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And that is not based on reputation, that is based off what I

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believe. But to say that they
need to improve their lineup is perhaps the

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most understated thing that you could write
in an article. But what surprises me

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most is he's telling us, based
on his baseball acumen, and he's a

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pretty smart guy. He's telling us
there's not one redeeming quality about this team.

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If you have to improve your lineup, improve your starting rotation, and

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improve your bullpen depth, what else
is there? And you and I both

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know when we have this conversation,
we both know what they're not good defensively.

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So in conclusion, based on what
Jim Bowden has said, they need

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help in the lineup, you and
I would both agree with that they need

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help. With their starting rotation.
I actually kind of like their starting rotation.

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Three of their pitchers. If Casey
Mice is my fourth, it's not

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that bad because I like with schoobl
and Flaherty and Old have done a lot.

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If you want a fifth start,
I make Mies your fifth start.

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If you need a four starter,
okay, but that's not a massive problem.

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The bullpen depth, it has not
been as good as I thought it

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would be. There's no power and
they're not very good defensively. It shows

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you, folks, just how far
away this team really is in what we

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would all consider a very winnable division. At least that's the way it started.

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It's kind of disheartening. Meyer Hotline
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and that's a huge blow to an
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attention turns to the players who really
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Carpenter, and the spotlight is squarely
on Spencer Torkolsen. After hitting three home

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runs in a seven game stretch,
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thirty seven slump with thirteen strikeouts.
Last year, a high hard hit rate

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was an indicator better times were ahead, and he did have the big finish.

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This year, the hard hit rate
is down sharply. The at bats

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are getting worse. His timing is
off, he's pulling off the ball,

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he's missing fastball. Torfelsen is working
hard to find his timing. The Tigers

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phone lines. Ben, someone's called
him. Waited through the breakforcet. Who

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is it? Yeah, we got
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or B. What's going on?
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What's going on? What's your what's
on your on your mind? Here?

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I Tim Bowden, Oh my gosh, what a newsfy. I was shocked

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when you said that. It's like, are you kidding me? Really?

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Boy? I didn't think I had
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Yeah, that's it's pretty obvious,
don't you think. I mean, it's

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something that you've probably already come to
the conclusion for. Yeah. Yeah,

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we've already talked about this how many
times for the last two three weeks?

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Anyway, now for as has been
a or p res. I get so

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confused with that. Now it's been
such a delight. And he was not

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on the twenty six man rosters of
the year, but now he's worked his

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way on. Now. I know
they like to wait till people are ready

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in order to pull the How do
you know if they're ready or not?

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Because maybe they're not sunning the world
on fire in the minors, but maybe

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something would click. I mean,
is there a way to find that out?

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I mean, right now we're ten
out and like I said, four

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back and yeah, Houston, Tampa
and Tronto behind them, and they don't

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learn how to score runs with clarity, and all of a sudden they're not

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getting anywhere anyways. So is there
a way to figure out, Okay,

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he's not doing badly, he's not
doing great, but let's give him a

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try with that. You think that
would work at all a specific player.

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No, I don't know, because
it's hard to follow the minors because you

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don't know who's putting in the effort, really hard because you can't seep from

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a day to day and who's doing
what you know, and you can't even

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living in Grand Rappatis and go to
West Michigan game and say, Okay,

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he's gonna end up going somewhere and
you can see it, but you're not

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gonna pull from you know, Lakeland
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the Tigers. That'd be insane.
You're just gonna throw development right out the

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window. Then it's only a A
and and stuff. Like that. You

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know when when mys and Manning and
Turnbull when they were down there Eerie,

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they were just totally dominating. And
I, you know, and I was

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kind of hoping at the time they'd
pull them up just to see what they

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would do. But because the three
of them, back to back to back,

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you would see it, night after
night after night after night, all

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three of them were dominating. Granted
it's double A, but still you get

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a lot of players that get pulled
up from double A. Oh sure,

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yeah, I mean double A.
A lot of people would tell you.

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A lot of people would tell you
the double A and thanks for the phone

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call, appreciated truckery. A lot
of people would tell you that double A

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is where you really make your mark
because there's a lot of triple A guys

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who've they're just not good enough to
play in the majors. They're hanging on

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and so they're they're going to play
in triple A to keep a the dream

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alive, the opportunity to be you
know, a kind of an up and

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down guy, and trying to expose
themselves to to other teams. You know,

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I would remind people it's not like
wens Hill, Perez tearing up Triple

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A when he was brought up from
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up? I don't know. It's
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roster Treckerby, as it is the
forty man, because if you're not on

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the forty man, you have to
the team has to make a move to

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send somebody off the forty man.
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Twenty six guys are on the major
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forty from any other team coming in
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an example. The Tigers have three
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who's at Triple A, Carson Kelly
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league level. Okay, that makes
sense. They have two catchers, and

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they have a guy waiting in the
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down. All right, Okay.
From the position players, the guys who

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are not up with the big league
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are Buddy Kennedy and he's been up, Ryan Kreidler, Eddie's, Leonard Parker,

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Meadows, and Ryan Valet. Those
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on the iol. That's the reason
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well. You wouldn't expect him to
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guys if you tried to send them
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first because they don't have minor league
options. Right, So you're not sending

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a guy like Geo Rochelle, not
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Mark Canada, that's not happening Hoaveer
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Carrie Carpenter comes back, what do
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know, justin Henry molloy spencertoricals.
And if he were to come back,

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who would it be. Well,
then you get into a little bit of

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a dilemma. My guess it would
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it would be col Keith because he
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some more seasoning. Like when Jim
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about his assessment to say Cole Keith
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guy comes up from from Double A, it's gonna Jim Boon should know this

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as well as anybody it's going to
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good hitter. I think he's going
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have and that most major league players
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hour as we come down the home
stretch here get your thoughts on some of

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the things that we've discussed. Baseball
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there's also something else that, well
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radar and it needs to be trumpeted
for this program and throughout the state.

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I think it has to do with
a recent text via the text line Sports

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Radio to twenty one thousand, Ben. Go ahead and read it. Yeah,

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it says big shout out to the
Saganaw Spirit, Saganaw's OHL team who

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won the Memorial Cup tournament last night
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London Kings. This was also the
first time the Memorial Cup was hosted in

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Saganaw, Michigan. Yep, it
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three with the final. As you
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the one hundred and four year history
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winter Hawks wanted in nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty eight, and the Spokane

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Chiefs wanted in nineteen ninety one and
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Saginaw. Somebody had apologized I had
forgotten the name, but somebody in Saginaw

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had called us. Do you remember
this been a few weeks back and said,

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you know what I do, but
I don't remember who it was.

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Yeah, but they did mention that
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they were absolutely right. So we
appreciate anybody listening on the mitt WLUN one

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hundred point nine serving Midland and Sagana
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went to a lot of Saganaw Spirit
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the event last night. I hope
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was for us to read about it. So good for them. Hats off

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to them. Congratulations, that's fantastic
stuff. All right, let me get

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to a couple of football notes before
we get out of here. ESPN came

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out with the NFL Power Index this
time of year. It's always rather amusing

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to me because we just we're just
not sure what the team looks like.

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However, if depending on what the
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right now, if everybody's healthy,
that's the assumption, right San Francisco is

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the favorites. And I don't have
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think you should either. They're intact, they've got great depth, they're well

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balanced. They have a legitimate quarterback
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a top five. I'm just saying
he's legitimate. He's a good player.

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You got Christian McCaffrey, you got
Brandon Ayuk, You've got Deebo Samuel,

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George Kittle. There's plenty of offensive
weapons there right Defensively, Fred Warner is

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a hell of a linebacker, Nick
Bosa up front, There's more. Can't

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name them all, but they're legit. So they right now have the best

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chance of winning the Super Bowl.
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is only sixteen percent in terms of
the Power Index. Where do you

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think the Detroit Lions sit well?
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fourth the NFL Football Power Index rankings, the Lions are fourth, and yet

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it would also indicate that the Lions
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Super Bowl, not playing it,
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Chiefs number two, Lions number three
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better than the Ravens, better than
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which is interesting considering the Football Power
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the Niners number two, the Chiefs
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Lions. So I found that rather
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is to a reality. Do you
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favorite to win the Super Bowl?
And do you think that's quite the compliment

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that I would be receiving it as
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Doesn't guarantee anything. I'm just saying. Here's the other thing. Most

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likely super Bowl matchups. The Lions
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The most likely is a repeat of
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Ravens and Niners. Number three would
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is Ravens and Lions. Okay,
maybe get a little too caught ahead of

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yourself. Here's the thing that encouraged
me. Most likely conference title game matchups

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Chiefs Ravens would be an easy one
on the AFC side. That's at nine

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percent equal percentage for a rematch of
last year's in the NFC side with the

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Niners and Lions. Isn't it fun
to just have the national media glowing about

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your team for the first time in
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I can recall. It just there's
something about it that makes you feel pretty

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damn good. Usually it doesn't matter
to me what national people say because we're

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closer to the situation than anybody.
You and I have lived it for crying

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out lout. But to be to
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just talks of the relevance of it. Nice to have your team in that

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mix where you're quote unquote respected.
Another story that caught my eye yesterday or

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over the weekend, I should say, is somebody asked CJ. Stroud,

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who had such a much better rookie
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I think there's too often we look
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and we just associate past failures slash
successes with draft picks and thinking they're going

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to be as good or not as
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guys who played that position in the
past. Ohio State quarterbacks is a pretty

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good example of that. Right,
Why should CJ. Stroud be penalized just

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because Haskins and Barrett and some of
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you thought they might be. He
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do you just take an LSU wide
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or Jamar Chase. No, but
look, there is something to be said

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for a certain type of style and
a certain type of system in which they

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teach certain positions at certain programs.
So I get it. But C.

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J. Stroud, who was,
like I said, much better than I

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thought he would be as a rookie, was on a podcast recently and they

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asked him, who are the top
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Stroud is, any quarterback is probably
going to say themselves, right, Gunner

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Minshew, Probably not. But certain
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like, you know, they've had
a really productive season. And I understand

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that. You know, I probably
a guy like Jared Goff, if you

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asked him, he would reply say, well, I'll take myself out of

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it. Here are the other guys, you know what I mean? With

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all due respect, I doubt Mac
Jones or Aiden O'Connell or you know,

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certain Nick mullens are not going to
sit there and say, yeah, I

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belong in that conversation, but you're
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I mean, as good as Jake
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while. He's not a top top
five guy, even he would admit that,

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I would hope anyway. So you
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said. He said, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, c J. Stroud,

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Dak Prescott, and Jalen Hurts.
I read that and I thought,

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well, really, you're kidding me. You're trying to tell me that you

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don't have a guy like Joe Burrow
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there's no Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. Like I get Mahomes for sure,

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I get Jackson. He's the MVP. And I guess I should be a

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little bit more understanding of why CJ. Stroud would pick himself. I love

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the confidence. He was pressed a
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a little polarizing, especially from Cowboys
fans. He said, Dak is one

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of the most accurate quarterbacks in the
world, which then kind of forced me

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to beg the question is that more
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the pro bowler in twenty eighteen,
he's did a hell of a job.

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He really did thirteen and three.
Former offensive rookie of the year right the

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pro bowler. At one point he
took some heat. Let's put it that

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way. He took some heat,
and then he had to update it.

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He had to update his list on
his Instagram account. In other words,

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he wasn't true to his conviction.
Look, if that's how you feel,

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that's fine. It's all debatable.
There are probably two guys who aren't debatable

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in there. I mean Mahomes and
Jackson. Now you can have the same

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argument about Lamar Jackson that he hasn't
had the playoff success when you win two

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MVPs, there's something to be said
for that, right absolute, But there's

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no debate about Mahomes. He would
be on everybody's list. The other four

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guys, the other four members of
that list, whoever you may have,

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will be debatable. So if that's
how you feel, don't cave to the

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pressure. Man, stand your ground
and say this is my belief. There's

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too many times in life where we're
sitting here going I'm sorry, I don't

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agree with the masses, so I'm
going to change. So I can't agree

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with the masses. No, So
he takes some pushback, so he updates

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his list, kept the top three
in there, so he kept Mahomes and

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Jackson himself. He feels like they
are the top three quarterbacks. He adds

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Josh Allen to number four and moved
Prescott to number five and takes Jalen Hurts

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out of it. He also added
that Joe Burrow is among the best top

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five, but he missed half of
last year, so there's the out.

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That's why he left him off his
list. It's not like Justin Herbert had

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this great year last year, but
I would take Justin Herbert. Is it

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too early to say on Jordan Love? Because I thought Jordan Love was better

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than CJ. Stroud, but he
didn't have him in there. If they're

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going to go by numbers, and
I'm not saying you should, but if

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you're going to go buy numbers,
brock Purdy has to be in the conversation,

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and so does to a tongue of
Aloa. Nobody threw for more yards

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than tongue of Aloa in twenty nine
touchdowns. There's nothing wrong with that,

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right I was fifth ranked in the
NFL, and he doesn't turn it over

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a whole lot. Now, if
you're going to use numbers like that,

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your comment to me right away would
be Wait a minute, man, I

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mean chef, you said, Josh
Allen. He threw eighteen picks, second

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most in the league, right,
so it's a knock on him. I

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hate to tell you this, but
Patrick Mahomes through fourteen interceptions, same as

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tongue of Aloa and Trevor Lawrence.
You're not going to question Patrick Mahomes,

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are you? Hell no, nor
should you. And a lot of that

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has to do with by the way, we don't know a lot of those

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interceptions. I don't know if you
watched him every single weekend. I did

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not watch him every single weekend.
I don't know those interceptions. Some of

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those are not all on Patrick Mahomes. Some would be on his receivers or

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tight end. Some are tip passes
by his receivers, tight ends or running

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backs. That's the way interceptions work. Sometimes they get thrown on the quarterback,

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but a lot of times it's on
somebody else. Not always, but

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a lot of times. We're just
not always aware of it, and we

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conveniently forget it. And I'm guilty
of it too. But I found that

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interesting something that you may discuss with
buddies or yours moving forward any time,

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if you want a debate. I
say this a lot. If you want

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a really good debate, if you
want to open up a conversation, you're

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just standing there at a party and
you're just kind of wondering up the conversation

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is at a pregnant pause. Hey, who do you think your top five

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quarterbacks are? That'll get people going, like right a way? Try that

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one time, or do the best
of all time type of discussion. Top

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five players of the NBA of all
time and start naming a few and you

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watch how that conversation turns, depending
on the age of the person. It's

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really fun, really, it really
is. I mean, you just sit

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there and you're waiting to dive into
something and then boom. That conversation will

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not explode in a bad way,
but it will carry on for a long

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time. And by the way,
it'll pause for a little bit and then

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it'll pick back up. Quarterbacks,
probably more than any other position or sport

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in general with the NFL, will
absolutely carry a conversation for an extended period

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of time. I was at a
gathering on Saturday night and we started talking

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about the Lions. We weren't talking
about quarterbacks per se, but we started

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talking about the Lions, and the
conversation between us four guys was we're cooking

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out, we're eating outside, we're
having a chipping contest, we go inside

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to watch a little of the hockey
game. That conversation lasted from the time

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it was brought up while we were
grilling or making pizzas in a pizza oven,

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till the time that the hockey game
was over, you know, picking

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it up here and there every once
in a while. It was fascinating and

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it made me think of this article
right here, because even though our discussion

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wasn't specifically about quarterbacks, the NFL
stirs up that emotion, doesn't it.

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And then you dive into the collegiate
and the three guys I was hanging out

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with but are all Michigan State spartans. The Jonathan Smith conversation the great MSU

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teams of the past, How good
were they compared to some of the other

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rival teams that they've plays. It
was fascinating and really good. It shows

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you that shows like this kind of
mirror I think what you and I have

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conversations about and with with friends of
ours, and I hope that's how you

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take this show as well. We
appreciate Ben for his producing. We appreciate

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you for your input as well.
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