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You're listening to k I am sixty
on demand. Marina, Welcome to the

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Jesus Christ Show. Hello, I'm
very very glad to talk to you,

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pleasure. I'm pretty lonely, very
good place to me. I'm eighty eight

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years of age, actually a very
young rady eight years of age. I'm

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not complimenting myself, but I know
I am compared with my friends that are

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younger or in with possessions of me, But they do have one thing that

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I do not have. I was
born in the UK, and I came

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over here and I divorced my husband
and then remarried later, but I got

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a job and I decided to stay
here. I had a baby son,

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and he's been very successful and he
likes to live in Mexico. UM.

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He also loves to live in Columbia, and I know he has a life.

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But I'm late. I've had difficult
health problems but not serious, but

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difficult. I get pretty insecure on
my own and I just ask it.

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He's very hard. We don't get
along. He's critical of me all the

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time and is a you know,
it's really hard, but to have the

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security of him with me, it
really makes me feel better. I will

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get through this, but I'm giving
some bad symptoms. Waking up in the

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night par extric and you know,
it's hard, but if the mornings of

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the hardest, and then as the
day progresses, I get better. My

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friends are very kind to me and
they talk to me, but they have

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their own problems, you know,
and it's just very difficult. I'm not

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suicidal in any way, but I
get scared. And then I called them

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bine one one and I'm getting you
know, I think they're getting a bit

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fed up with me doing that.
So I just, you know, I

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don't know, just someone to talk
to. And I'm sure there's an awful

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lot of people that are in the
same situation as I am. And you've

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been talking about kindness this morning,
and I do have some friends like that,

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and I try to be kind because
years ago, I had a client

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that I worked in the beauty business
and she was going through similar things and

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I did take I'm not, you
know, complimenting myself, but I took

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a lot of time talking to her. She did eventually die. She a

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bad problem, but I know I
helped her. I told king, I'm

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giving her, you know, some
advice what to do and I used to

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go and take her out. She's
in a wheelchair. But it's hard.

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So that's up my story. Well
let's look at a few things. You

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know, having children is a thing
of beauty, but the biggest and most

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difficult part of that is that your
job as a parent is to grow them

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so they can be on their own
and don't do those things. It's you

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know, that is the way the
system. That's how it worked with you

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as well. You moved up and
on from your parents and started your own

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family, and then your kids.
In this case, your son moves up

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and on and does his projects,
and that's the cycle of life as far

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as and this is not a medical
show, of course, this is about

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morality and truth and life and those
things. But I would be curious if

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you've talked to a doctor about anxiety
and it sounds like maybe you're having panic

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attacks and that's why you end up
calling nine one. Not really for that.

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But the doctor I have, he
he doesn't he prescribes. I cannot

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take drugs. And when they give
me drugs for you know, anxiety and

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whatever, you know, it's a
fact. Actually it takes or four weeks

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to work. I counts dound to
be. The feeling was than I already

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do. And I took one the
other day and it really made me feel

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terrible. It's a hard thing,
you know. I think what I need

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to do is to get out and
get some kind of a job. If

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it don't even mean just to get
out and have something to do. I

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keep my house very clean, and
I have one lovely thing that I've always

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I've got a cat and she readest
thing in the world. And when I'm

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really down, boy, she doesn't
even leave my side, you know.

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And if I didn't have her,
I don't know what I do. But

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my son, he's always saying,
it's your fault, it's your fault you

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didn't have more children, you know. He criticizes everything. But to have

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him around for a while, I
feel much more secure. But I can't

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expect him to, you know,
he's to give up and he's I've got

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my problems too, you know,
and it's it's pretty odd. I'm not

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blaming him, but he's not very
kind. I think it's worth actually when

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he's here, because he gets at
me and I just don't need that.

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Yeah, it sounds like the dynamic
there in the relationship becomes a burden,

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and you make him feel guilty being
you know, his age. I understand

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that you fight against the medication,
but I'm assuming your doctor gave you that

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medication because you have anxiety, right, yes, a depression. I tried

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that a tendency in my life at
certain times. When I was married to

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my first husband, I was very
unhappy. It didn't work. He wasn't

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bad to me. But as soon
as I divorced him, I completely got

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better, you know, I mean
I got better, and I really added

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a problem. He took the car, he left me the house we had

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him a little bit of mortgage in
it. I wasn't afraid anymore because I

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I just got a job. I'm
not going on it, and was very

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very poor for a while. But
I worked three three jobs, you know,

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save money, and if I had
any money given to me from my

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mother used to worry because because it
was right after the war and they couldn't

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send any money. But she worried
that I never asked for anything. But

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I survived and did very well.
My son did too. But this this

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marine, this doesn't sound like this
is. I understand that you've gone through

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many things, and you know,
we can't go through all of them today,

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but we can focus on the one
in which you called um. I

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would say it's not even a job. I would go volunteer somewhere. You

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need to, yeah, connection and
interaction with with people if you want.

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You could maybe get a roommate,
which is a possibility. Somebody in similar

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age that you could connect with would
be a good idea. I will tell

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you this, if you broke your
leg and you were in pain, would

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you take pills for it as long
as it didn't affect my mind? Well

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people say that, but your mind
is a machine and it does have chemical

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issues, and sometimes if those chemical
issues aren't working, then you will be

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in that state of anxiety. Not
saying that's always the case or always the

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solution, but I would very much, very much advise you to sit down

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with your doctor and talk about the
purpose of those Yes, if you're and

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I'm not talking about something that you
give once for anxiety, it sounds like

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especially with depression. Again, this
is not a medical show, but morally,

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I think it's imperative for you to
go and ask questions of your doctor

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and find out what the chemical stuff
is going on in your head, whether

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you're not taking up the serantonin or
what have you. And yes, it's

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probably going to be about two weeks
in most cases if you're having a regiment.

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But to say, I don't take
pills as a weird thing. If

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there's a need to squelch pain or
whatever it might be, there are needs,

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and I think it's easier for people
to look at a broken arm and

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say, gosh, I need to
have this fix. Then when something is

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off in one's mind, they feel, well, I'm not crazy. It's

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not not being crazy. It's about
there is chemical issues the same if you

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have chemical issues for diabetes, if
you have chemical issues going on in your

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body, then you have to do
that. And I think that's going to

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be imperative. Leaning on other people. All of that is not going to

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be the key first because I have
a feeling that as you talk about what's

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going on in your life, that
becomes a burden to other people. And

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people can't always take other people's burdens
on, including your own family, and

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it could be difficult. And I
think you're doing that rather than going to

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the root of the problem. So
I'm hoping you find that and talk to

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your doctor and call back again.
I'd love to see how things are going,

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but it's definitely off, and it's
it's not gonna solve itself anytime soon.

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Dave, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Oh Jesus, Hi,

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Dave, how can I help you? Well? I have a question here,

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because the first question is I read
I got. I purchased the Big

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Bible with the Old Testament and the
New Testament in it. So I've been

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reading the New Testament just over and
over again because I like that one.

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Okay, yeah, and I'm fond
of it as well. And I'm trying

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to learn exactly more about Christianity where
it came from. And I'm reading these

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books on audible. Okay, we're
listening to we're listening to them. Yes,

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that's correct. So I got this
like the Dead Feast Rolls, Okay,

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the Books of Enoch, which I
haven't started yet. But are those

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books um good to read? Or
are they dangerous? Or do they just

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take you away from are they?
I mean, are they lying? Well?

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The key thing is, Dave,
that you have to recognize that a

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lot of these works are not canonized. They're not They're believed to be apocryphal

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and in that case, you can't
read them as scripture because they're not included.

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But as far as learning, I
want to say this because a lot

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of people get caught up in it. First, Thessalonians five twenty one says,

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examine everything, hold firmly to that
which is good and true. So

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if you're going to dabble in that, do the research as to why,

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because there's so many of them out
there, and kind of doing a blanket

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thing here as to who they were
written by or by who they believed to

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have been written by, at what
time and date were they written by,

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and to study them from a biblical
point of view as to why they were

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not canonized or put into scripture.
So if you do that, test all

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things. Means, if you're going
to read it, then test it,

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don't just you know, glob it
all together with scripture. It's fine to

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read things, it's fine to test
things, but you've got to still hold

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firm to that which is true,
that which is good. Talking about studying

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other things, it really is imperative
to take your time to study and to

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learn and understand. God is not
looking for an ignorant person. God is

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not looking for a person that just
goes okay, well this is what I

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was brought up in, or any
of these things. You are allowed to

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question. What God doesn't want is
you to you an excuse of searching or

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finding to be a desire never to
land. An open mind is good,

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but an open mind is like that
of an open mouth. Once it's fed

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and knows it's nutrition, it should
close and consume. Some people like to

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say, well, I'm being open, not sure what's out there, and

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that's just an excuse not to learn, not to focus, not to be

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a part of anything you're accountable for, and that's not what God calls you

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to. You should be able to
test all things and hold fast to that

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which is true. You should be
able to be curious. Again, just

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make sure that the curiosity is for
purpose, that you're going towards an ending

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and unders standing that is noble and
good. You should compare things that people

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say. Now, not everybody is
going to be called to that or feels

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that they have the need for that. There are those with very simple faith

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and understanding, and they have they
have come to a conclusion that this is

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the belief, and if there is
something that's going to come, it's their

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way and show them something else then
they would test it but have no need

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to test it. And then there's
people like my producer Neil who who's probably

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overly aggressive when it comes to wanting
to know and so studies as such,

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getting down to the very word in
its original language to see what might being

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said is being said and to make
sure that it jibes with the entirety of

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scripture goes up against scripture because as
you know, if you come across something

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in scripture you're possibly confused about,
it's probably a good, if not the

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best, way to check other scripture
against it. You want to interpret scripture

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with scripture first above all things,
and then get in the language and the

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like. But apologetics or the defense
of the faith is an important part.

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Too many to have answers about what
they believe that may not be you,

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it may be you. And in
that process, when learning and seeking,

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you're still going towards a goal.
You want to land somewhere. If you

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want to do it, to do
it, and you're doing it so you

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don't have to land somewhere, that's
when it's a problem. If you're looking

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for accountability, that's wonderful. If
you're looking for something so you don't have

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to have accountability. It's like,
well, I'm you know, I'm taking

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my time to make sure I get
it right. That's just so that you

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don't have to truly be a part
of something. That is your way of

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kind of sneaking around the reality that
if you're going to seek, truly seek

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a faith, you're going to have
to land sometime until something else maybe comes

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your way and you go, okay, now I should study this and see.

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But there is there is always the
person that uses excuses. People ask

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me about doubt. Is it okay
to have doubt. Yes, it's okay

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to have doubt as long as that
doubt pushes you towards learning more, pushes

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you towards an answer. Now,
if you have doubt that pushes you away

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from having to be accountable to anything
you learn, then that's where it becomes

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wrong. And many people do that, Oh well I'm searching for this,

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Okay, Well, you're still accountable
for what you do know. You're going

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to learn more, but you're accountable
for what you do know, and that's

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what ends up being the most important
part of it. Not getting lost in

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your curiosity, but finding a plan
you have to ultimately land somewhere. And

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sorry, fellas, but it reminds
me of the dancing around when it comes

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to marriage, promise rights or any
of these things that delay it. Well,

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I want us to be financially better, that's all wonderful and noble,

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But what are you doing to get
to that place? Or are you using

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it to drag something on? You
see the difference, you know, the

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difference when somebody is working towards something
truly versus dragging their feet and delaying.

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God doesn't want you to do that. If you are waiting to follow God

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in faith, if you're waiting to
read every book, listen to every book

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on the planet about God, yeah, you're just going to push yourself away

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from ever getting to know and connect
with God. That's the reality. But

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to check scripture, to read something
and go, I wonder what that truly

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means. I wonder what the words
in their original language mean. I wonder

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if there's any insight to this that
helps me see it. Have you read

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above it? Have you read below
it? Have you really given the opportunity

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to understand the verse? Or are
you one of those that just get a

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verse that sounds good and sounds like
something you agree with and then you use

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it all the time. Or are
you genuinely looking for verses in their context

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in a way that will shine the
brightest of life, the brightest of lights

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on what you're looking for, so
that you can genuinely understand what God has

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out for you. Dorsey, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Hey,

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good morning, happy indeed to you. Basically I was I was basically asking

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it refers to Genesis six when it
tells about the earth, the Book of

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Enoch, and I was wondering why
having scholars made more of an emphasis and

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research and what happened before the flood
so that we would not repeat the mistakes.

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Also, this is just my own
self interests and self reflection. The

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rainbow, which was a sign that
God, you know, had love for

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man, was showing forgiveness to man
and told the man that never again what

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I flood the earth? Why is
it that, I guess you could say,

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Christian people, why do they allow
that the rainbow to be perverse the

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people? And I'm not saying lifestyles
and all that, but I'm saying that

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the rainbow is now mocking God because
basically it represents sin now rather than being

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forgiveness and grace and all those things. And why han't Christians spoke up about

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that, because that also a rainbow
is a symbol of God also, just

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like the cross and anything else,
that was a promised to mand that you

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know, I would never punish you
the way I did before. And when

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certain groups use the rainbow as a
symbol to I mean, promote their sin,

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to boast about their sins, and
I mean it doesn't have the sexual

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It's just that men and women were
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and by them perverting their purpose and
perverting them to us a slap in God's

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face. I mean that's just my
opinion. Okay, well there's a lot

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to unpack, so let's start with
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Book of Enoch is concerned, it
is not considered scripture, so to look

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back or to use that now,
there are parts. The problem with works

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like this is that they are they
are of a special class, so and

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people confuse them for being the Word
of God because they're written similarly and they

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have similar styles. In this particular
case, this falls into pseudopographer, which

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is you can't directly find whether it
was written by Enoch who would have known

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these things or understood these things.
So it doesn't mean that it won't have

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some things that are true. They
could be played age of rights from scripture

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as well, but it also doesn't
mean that it's something that you should be

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taking the truths from. As far
as the rainbow, and I know you

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kind of danced around it a little
there, but as far as the rainbow

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being used by the gay community,
it's in the United States. It's there's

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to use. I think that there
is a misconception about the United States being

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a Christian nation, and it's not
that there wasn't Christian founders. Some of

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them were a little wonky, quite
honestly. Some of them were deists at

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best that believed there was a God, but not necessarily one in which you

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dealt with on the daily. There
are those that cut up the Bible basically

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and put different things in there,
and there were certainly Founding Fathers that would

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not fall under Christianity entity. And
it basically just means that socially most people

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celebrate Christmas and Easter, but there
doesn't mean that their faith is tied into

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that. So as an American,
even if you're a Christian believer, you

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have to understand that you may be
guided by the Bible, but as an

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American, the country is guided by
the Constitution. So the first things first

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is that I think any American should
be thrilled when there is freedom for people

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that don't get freedom in other countries, sometimes even killed. And if that

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is the attitude of people here in
the United States, that becomes a huge

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problem. And there are just like
there are different religions, there are going

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to be different people of their own
understanding and their own lifestyles, and that

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should be honored. The flag is
not taken away from the promise. And

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quite honestly, if Christians are going
to be honest, it's not like they

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were using it that way anyways.
Very few people are putting up rainbow flags

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for that reason. In Christianity,
the focus on the LGBTQ plus part of

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your community, by the way,
not a separate community, but part of

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your community. The focus is not
of God, the treatment is not of

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God. I think it's one of
the most shameful parts of Christianity that has

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been basically consumed by conservative thinking rather
than what scripture has to say. And

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I think many people don't understand the
things the admonishments in scripture and where they

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play and why they play out.
There was an imperative part at the beginning

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to reproduce, be fruitful, and
multiply, but that's not the case today

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planet has a lot of people.
So to think that you're supposed to be

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fruitful and multiply now as much as
at the beginning, is not a proper

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reading a scripture. So now you
would be reading into it based on what

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you think, which is isoget rather
than an exeget when you're studying scripture,

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I said, Jesus, is you
know reading into you know exeget is getting

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what is written there? And I
think people just want an excuse to hate

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others and come to some sort of
well, that's not right, and scripture

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says that right. That's not American, Sure it is. And to allow

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others to celebrate who they are is
no different than you hanging a flag.

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You took as a Christian, took
the sign of death, the cross and

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the sign of execution, which was
really something that the Romans brought in.

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You took that and made it for
good. So I could say the empty

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tomb probably would have been better,
but used it for good. And I

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think there's this strange hate that comes
from Christianity, and Christians more importantly towards

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the LGBTQ plus part of your community
that doesn't rectly come from scripture. K

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