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Well, whiskey coming, take my
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This is the three Whiskey Happy Hour
with your bartenders Steve Hayward, John

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You and Powerlines International Woman of Mystery
Lucresha's gotta give in and let that whiskey

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blow when you're being in love down
and low. Well, well, hello

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everyone, and welcome to the three
Whiskey Happy Hour. Uh it is I

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Lucresha, the International Woman of Mystery. I will be your host today and

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with me as always and thankfully back
together again. We've got we've got the

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band back together again we have with
us joined recently from area, South Korea.

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That is, he didn't decide to
have some sort of mind and walk

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across they That wasn't me running across
the DMZ, right, Yeah, no

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it was not. And of course, as always Steve Hayward, welcome gentlemen.

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Yeah, yeah, good to have
you back. John. By the

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way, McDonald stocking them all time
high. So it still you know,

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did well while you were away.
I was worried, but you know the

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eight McDonald's actually yeah, yeah,
I went there and had the Korean beef

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barbecue burger, which was I wish
they sold in the United States. It

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would be as strong competitor to the
mcribb. But I hope that Steve will

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post this on Powerline on the website. I made the most fantastic culinary discovery

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fusing the brilliance of Korea with the
resources of America. I refer, of

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course, two single slice servings of
spam oh Man packaged serving. Yes,

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that's right, yeah, each one
in its own So that means when you

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want that piece of spam, I
was about to say, slam, but

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you don't want to open up the
whole can. Now the answer has become

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apparent. I had to go all
the way to Korea to find this.

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It's so quick and easy, it
says across the top, So quick and

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easy. It looks a little bit
like you might get maybe ramen in packages

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or something. It looks a little
weird to me. I'm sorry, I

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don't know what you don't. I
understand Koreans love spam, so you can

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actually go and get us spam,
sushi, of course, spam ramen.

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They'll put spam in anything and just
fry it up. Spam, kimschi fried

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rice, which is the height of
Korean culinary art. I told you,

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John, you really need to get
yourself down to New Orleans and go to

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the World War Two Museum and see
the whole, the whole exhibit about spam

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and how it was such a game
changer in the World War Two. You

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need to do that. And there
are the good things there too. Yeah,

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okay, well all right. It
was the most wonderful surprise. I

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was in New Orleans and I had
no idea it was even there, and

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I saw something and we spent the
whole day and drank in the bar for

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three hours afterwards. I was wonderful, speaking drinking. How are you guys

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ending the week? I know we're
recording a little earlier than usual, but

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I'm having some bush Mills Irish whiskey, just to be different, just like

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me. Oh, is that what
you're doing? Remember that's my that's my

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afternoon drink of choices, bush mills
and espresso and uh huh, yeah,

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okay, started yet. I have
not started yet. But I didn't buy

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a special version of wild turkey.
Oh it's special. Yeah, I don't

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know why it's special. It costs
three times more than normal wild turkey and

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a smaller, weirder bottle. You
buy this here a duty free in Korea.

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Oh no, here here it's not
well think it's it's called wild turkey,

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something like old breed or something like
that. There is a wild turkey

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liqueur. I don't think that's just
the wild turkey world. Okay, it's

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just whiskey. All right, I'm
right if you say so, John will

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believe you. So today goes great
with spam, whispam, anything to washpam

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down would go great to me.
Gasoline even anyway. Sorry, So first

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we're going to start off today.
It's been a pretty eventful week for the

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duldrums of summer, don't you think
all the things happening here. Even though

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John wasn't here to catalog them carefully
like he should have been, John is

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still going to tell us all about
the latest and maybe if you could do

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a quick summary of the others as
well. The latest indictment of former President

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Donald J. Trump. I gotta
say, he's sure is getting good at

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getting indicted. I mean, this
is a this is a talent that few

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have. Well, the Democrat are
just determined to run as pull numbers up

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as high as they can see.
That's exactly it's good. So this is

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so the course, this hasn't happened
yet, but it's likely to happen.

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Some people thought it was going to
happen today even but I would say if

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it doesn't happen today, most likely
next Tuesday or Thursday. The reason we

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know about this is President Trump,
which received what's called a target letter from

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the Justice Department. So you could
be basically like three kinds of things when

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you the grand jury wants to see
you. One, you could be like

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a witness. You saw a crime. They want to talk to you hear

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what happened. You could be what
Justice calls a subject, where you're someone

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who's involved but they're not really interested
in prosecuting you. And then you're the

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target. That's what you don't want
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the target. That means the grand
jury, the prosecutors are really focusing on

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you, and when you get a
letter like that, they're likely going to

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bring charges. And the idea of
it is they're inviting you win. You

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don't have to, but they're inviting
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maybe say you got it all wrong. You know, you got it all

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wrong. I never this Eastman fell. I don't know how we got in

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the White House. I told the
guards to remove him. Somehow he got

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into my office. But you get
this last chance, as it were,

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to peer before the grand jury and
the prosecutor try to persuade them not to

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indubt you. I really have never
heard of that actually working. The smart

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thing would be not to show up
because anything you say would be under oath

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and can be used against you later. So it doesn't make sense, it

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seems to me to actually take your
target letter and show up at the grand

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jury at its next meeting. But
the target letter John John can ask a

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quick question. Is everyone who justifies
before the grand jury under oath? Yes,

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it's under oath and they're under secrecy, right, Yeah, So the

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grand jury is one of the I
mean, it's not well understood. It's

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a powerful thing because not only is
it under oath, but you don't have

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the right to bring your lawyer with
you, and so is and the proceedings

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are secret. So a grand jury
is one of the most one sided,

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really one side, because all it
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of things to a grand jury,
there's no defense, there's no defense case,

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there's no defensive lawyers. So it's
really and to produce the indictment the

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charges, to recommend the charges go
forward. A grand jury's not operating like

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a criminal jury, which is a
trial jury which has proved beyond a reasonable

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doubt. We can just have to
say, oh, you think there's probable

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cause something happened. Well, I
mean, you know the old saying that

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any prosecutor can get a grand jury
to indict a ham sandwich. So there

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was in the middle of the week
the strange scene that the MSNBC people made

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a big deal about Jack Smith,
the special prosecutor went down to a subway

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and bought a sandwich, And I
thought, are they making a pun?

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It was Jack Smith actually suggesting Trump
your a ham sandwich about to get them

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I did? Or was it a
subtle thing like don't dare you shouldn't?

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I don't know. I just thought
that was a strange little scene. And

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nobody's saying to connect those two old
things, right, Okay, five dollars

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sandwich and subway, And I thought, clearly MSNBC isn't keeping up with inflation.

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But that's another story. Yeah,
what what can you get for five

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bucks a subway even anymore? Not? No, I go to subway all

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the time too when there's no McDonald's. So well, i'll just say this

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current indictment. So it hasn't been
issued yet, but Trump got the letter,

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and of course he told everybody in
the world he got this letter.

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This is about January sixth. So
this is actually the only one I think

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is important compared to the other ones, because Lucretia said we should go the

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other ones too. This one,
there's three charges being brought and they're all

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they're also you have to admit,
if you're a prosecutor, you're stretching the

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law on all three of these.
This is an unprecedented case. One are

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allegedly going to charge President Trump with
defrauding the United States. That's the crime,

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defrauding the United States. This is
usually what you charge like hospital accountants

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for for over building Medica to Medicare, or like a defense contractor, you

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know, selling the proverbial one thousand
dollars hammer to the Defense Department. What

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is the fraud here? So that's
one thing to talk about, but I

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can't think of in case we're like
a sitting cabinet member, a president or

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the candidate for the presidency is being
charged with defrauding the United States government,

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of which at this time President Trump
is the head. Actually, the second

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charge, I mean at the time, let me just happen. Let me

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summarize the other, let me summarize
eying. The second one is called,

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um well, it's obstructing a process
of government. But the as it's been

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used against the January sixth riders,
it's the charges obstructing a Congress. Again,

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this is a crime that's usually about
like tampering with witnesses, destroying documents,

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obstructing Congress in the sense of trying
to stop its normal operations. I

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could see that for the January six
rioters. How did Trump try to obstruct

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Congress? That's interesting. Then the
third one, and I think this is

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the one we would most interesting,
also the biggest stretch. And I've showed

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a little desperation actually by on the
Special Counsel's part, because if you're going

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to charge Trump with this, you
think it shows you really wonder about your

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other grounds for charging him, which
is he's being charged theoretic probably under the

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ku Klux Klan Act of eighteen seventy
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deprive someone of their constitutional rights.
That now the one that's missing. This

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is the other one, number four, which should the one that everyone talked

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about was the focus of January six
hearings, or focus of all the come

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to chrism, is missing. And
I think that's why the special prosors trying

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to stretch all these other crimes to
fit the one that should be there is

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sedition. I remember, conspiracy to
commit sedition is not in there. That's

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really telling. The absence is telling
anyway, So that piles on the other

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two. So the other two indictments, you might remember, there's one by

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the same special counsel, Jack Smith, for Trump' smishandling of classified documents.

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And then the other one is brought
by Alvin Bragg and Manhattan. He's the

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Manhattan DA And I remember that doesn't
go to anything Trump actually was doing as

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president, but it was a claim
that he Trump had basically misrepresented his business

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in basically mortgage applications and things like
that. There's several other investigations going on.

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There's one in Georgia. There's a
grand jury apparently meaning Georgia, about

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where it claimed Trump's find me ten
thousand votes is somehow criminal. I think

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there's another one going on in Michigan. You just saw that some of these

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alternate electors were just charged with forgery, and there might be I think maybe

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another one going in Nevada. I'm
not sure. But so this indictment is

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the most important one because it involves
January six. I think the other two

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are not that important. But it
may not be the last one either,

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yeah, yea, the last one
from anywhere or the last one from Jack

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Smith. Oh. I think this
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But you could still see indictments coming
Michigan and Georgia for Yeah. So

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I mean, I mean a couple
of observations. What is the first one?

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Defrauding the government of the United States. Jack Smith, I believe,

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was the person who brought the case
against Governor what's his name McDonald, Jim

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Donald on the Honest Services Statute that
the Supreme Court actually that was a void

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for vagueness thing, wasn't that?
I mean, they said, no,

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sorry, this just doesn't work.
So defrauding the government sounds like another stretch

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of something that used to be more
tangible, like yes, show me where

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he's getting money out of this.
I mean, it's normally the frauding statute,

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obstructing Congress, that would be a
cause for rewarding Trump if you ask

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me. Okay, but then but
then the k K K Act of depriving

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someone of their constitutional rights. I
don't know, that's a statute I could

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see being revived against the government a
lot. What about the administrator state does

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what's that? Sorry about the Espionage
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Oh, that's the separate case on
the documents, isn't it right? Yeah,

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that's the best class, you know. I know, But but I

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mean the Espionage Act, that's that's
ridiculous, isn't it. I mean,

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on its face, it's it's even
more ridiculous in defrauding Congress or any of

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those other things you mentioned. If
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the Espionage Act case is I think
a stronger case because the Act is called

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the Espionage Act. But the actual
crimes, you know, the provisions are

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much broader than espionage, like mishandling
classified information. You don't have to even

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be committing espionage to light that criminal
law, whereas this one, I mean,

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the KU Klux Klan Act is really
it really describes what that law was

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about, which was right either Southern
state and local government maybe or maybe not

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in coots with you private individuals that
are at that time preventing the freed slaves

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from enjoying their constitutional liberties and protections
under federal law. And so how did

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that happen here? So the Krukshank
case didn't that overturn that law or was

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that a different law that the Kukshank
case overturned Us versus Krukshank. Well,

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so there are all these cases in
this time period. Right, the Krukshank

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Slaughterhouse is one of these cases where
the Supreme Court actually cut back on how

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far these laws could go towards capturing
private action. Basically, right, it

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kind of required state action. And
they also gave a narrow definition of what

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the rights were. So that's why
I think it's hard and this would definitely

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be an issue be if Trump is
acting as a private person, right as

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a candidate, then how does he
violate the constitutional rights of someone? Right,

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you and I can't violate each other's
constitution rights because only the government,

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right government, the government. The
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a limit on private citizens. So
there's an actually really interesting constitutional problem with

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charging Trump in this way if you're
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constituate when he was acting as candidate
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has been or at least I think
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charging a president president Trump for what
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was doing as a private citizen.
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anymore, can I just state for
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taking any of these charges in any
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academic or educational little journey is appalling
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these indictments have gone forward is just
it's you know, it's so trite now,

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but it's banana Republic stuff and everybody
knows it. Everybody knows it,

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Espionage Act whatever. How many times
do we have to repeat the fact that

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that Trump was a classification authority.
He can't miss He cannot by definition mishandle

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classified documents. I don't care what
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put on it, it cannot happen. Sorry. And the fact that we're

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discussing any of these things that these
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including Jack Smith, want to go
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doing all this ridiculous stuff. Somebody
should just walk up and say enough is

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enough, you idiot. Sorry,
okay, go ahead, Steve, you

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had something to say somewhere. Well, noyad not wanted the espionage thing.

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I mean, there is that somewhat
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that tape and it got out of
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that's that's sort of a so.
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yesterday my son played for me.
You will appreciate this a AI musical where

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SpongeBob was singing with the voice of
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mom, who is this? I
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showed it to me and it was
all AI driven. If anybody takes seriously

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any kind of tape anymore, it's
ridiculous, I'm sorry. And you know

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what if he said it, he
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I mean that's I didn't want to
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more serious question for John is why
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go to charge and things like this, isn't it there is in Georgia?

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Oh no, there? Okay.
I think all these in the end are

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going to have to be conspiracy charges
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I think And this is what I
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thought you guys thought this too.
After the congressional hearings, it was surprising

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how there was no link between Trump
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if that's the case, then what
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all these witnesses and we don't know
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Otherwise I think the problem is and
I thought, this is what you're getting

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at, Steve with your comment McDonald
about the McDonald case. Is there really

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stretching the law to try to criminalize
politics? Right? So what Trump's defense

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is going to be, Well,
there's nothing that says I can't make please

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to the right authorities in Congress or
at the state legislative level saying change the

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electoral vote. That's not illegal.
That's my first amendment, right, I

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was only acting, you know,
within the outlines. What the constitution sets

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up or put a different way.
There's always how I test whether a legal

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argument makes senses apply this theory that
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So suppose does this mean that the
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the Electoral count Act to question the
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Are they also guilty of conspiring to
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who voted, Because that's a theory, right that when Trump tried to get

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state legislators to change the electoral votes
or had alternate slates of electors appointed in

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places like Michigan, that he was
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he violated Lucretia's constitutional rights. Right, because that's a theory, he was

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violating the constitution rights So all the
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If that's true, then didn't everybody
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being stolen? Are they all part
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voters? That's my answer to that
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And the whole point of this being
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ridiculous persecutions are not going to call
them prosecutions. Is to make sure nobody

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ever, ever, ever, in
the history of the world, challenges the

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Democratic Party win again never. It
doesn't matter how bad it is, It

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doesn't matter how much it's obvious that
they've cheated at every turn. It will

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not matter you. If you even
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the fact that there might have been
some election irregularities, they'll come and find

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you, and they'll put you in
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sorts of stupid things. That's well. I wonder if the two things I

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wonder about it that are related.
The first is I wonder if this lawfare

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is simply intended to flood the zone
and have so much, so many damaging

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things against Trump, that it prevents
him from He's just a criminal. We

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don't even have to we don't even
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have to understand any of it,
because it's just obvious. They couldn't bring

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so many, right what two hundred
and some different charges against him across these

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different indictments, it can some of
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that's the way a moderate all right. But this is what I'm coming

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to, is it there? There
may be some evidence that it's working.

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I mean, he's although he's still
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his head to head poles have slipped
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last ten days or so. So
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voters and the swing voters that he
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about that. The other one is
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a typical I say typical prosecution.
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Durham report. I finally caught up
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he was doing. He was trying
the old fashioned mob prosecution of flipping the

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little guys who then flip on the
big guys. Here, I wonder if

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you're not doing it in reverse,
which is you're going to throw some crazy

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stuff at Trump that doesn't work very
well. But maybe you're gonna get Eastman

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and who else is on the chopping
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you know, the Rudy's got to
be Rudy right right, and obviously

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in your opinion, in your judgment, yeah, because he testified for so

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many hours and that he probably probably
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was you, John, who told
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like to me. Actually, I
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just suppose for a moment, Lucretia, that a couple of secretaries of

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state like Raffensberger and Georgia or some
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tried to quote unquote fine votes.
Never mind whether they're legitimate or not.

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I do that that is a possibility. Yeah, but you see the place

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I'm going is is that they want
to intimidate. I'm ratifying your hypothesis at

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a minute ago. Do you want
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Is gonna be around for a while
because Trump one or another four years from

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not, Trump will be done.
So he's either elected president again or he

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doesn't. Okay, so let me
say something. I know this will shock

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you guys, but I want to
seasoning truly outrageous for a moment. You

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never this will be going to write
the stay down when you when you sort

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of see some of these accounts,
keep your finger but you guys might appreciate

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this, actually, but I'm sure, like like me, you read the

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occasional other side of the aisles write
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know how they're so fully convinced that
no matter what happened, it was absolutely

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necessary to keep you know, that, that Trump from ever getting into office

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again, and so on. Right, say, you know what I'm saying,

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right, I don't have to spell
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what I think is odd, and
this is going to be shocking and crazy

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and stupid, so just bear with
me. It's not if they really wanted

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to make sure that Trump doesn't run
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twenty, if it was that important, they quite frankly could have taken Trump

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out. I know the Secret Service
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If this entire elite system of power
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that was always a possibility. It's
much more important that they destroy him

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and make sure nobody ever tries to
Trump again. That's my opinion, and

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that's that's that's really what you guys
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except without the they could have assassinated
Trump sideline. If Trump really is such

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a threat to democracy, trademark to
human life as we know it, wouldn't

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that be the right thing to do. I mean, they took out seth

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Riff. It was some rich that
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suppose you're I mean, someone acting
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say you're Justice Department career prosecutor,
and I think what you think is that

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Trump did try to violate the law, subvert the election, and that it's

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important that he be punished in a
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this is what I don't see.
I don't think any of those people exist,

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not one of them. Look,
this is so if I was trying

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to think about this, like if
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other side, what would I try
to do here? I think would stop

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on the other side, on the
other side, the other side of yes,

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you're the prosecution the other side,
No, No, If you're in

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the Justice Department, you're neutral,
You're you're protecting him, right, You're

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not on the other side. So
I'm sorry, go ahead, Okay,

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So suppose you're a civil servant in
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unbiased caze you see, you think
you think Trump tried to subvert the election,

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right, you think, as I
do, that there was and there

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was not sufficient fraud to change the
election outcome. And then you think that

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Trump really did try to mount this
conspiracy to uh put off you know,

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to change the election result results.
So what they want to do, I

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think is not really punished Trump.
I agree with you there the creation.

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I think what they want to do
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there the system worked, that the
there was electoral integrity, that Trump's claims

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not just right a plausible argument,
but we're just flat out wrong. And

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so I agree with you. I
think the criminal trial is important not just

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about Trump, because they want to
the Justice Partment wants to use it to

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dispel the things that Trump was saying
about the justice system, about our electoral

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system, and about the way the
way the twenty twenty elections were taken.

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Okay, so boy are we going
to get comments, Steve. But let's

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say it's important to think about how
Let's say I and concede that all of

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that. I can't. I can't
concede that any of it's true, by

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the way, but let's say I
could concede that you were even right about

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some of it. What explains the
horrendous treatment under Russia Russia Russia? What

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explains the horrendous difference and treatment between
Biden and Trump just on the documents business.

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What explains the horrendous treatment of Trump
compared to say Hunter Biden. And

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I mean, if you if you
could even imagine that there was one single

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person in the Justice Department who was
actually, you know, like the irs

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was so Blowers, a decent human
being, they would they would resign out

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of protests for for the way that
that Trump is being treated and the way

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the bidens are being treated. That
is my absolute belief. I take if

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you take seriously the people who say
seriously the Trump is a fascist in the

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existential to go to American in the
Constitution, it's not unlanghed to say that,

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there would be some people who'd say, you know, at the worst

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case, we'd have to take him
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RFK Jr. Would certainly agree with
that hypothesis. I keep going back to,

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you know, the I was writing
about this recently. It's not well

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known, but there's that famous exchange
between the Lisa Page and the FBI and

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Peter Struck to quote it again,
Lisa Page says Trump's not going to become

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president, right, and Struck says, no, no, he's not.

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We'll stop it. Well, of
course that meant by you know, law

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fair and the phony Russian investigation all
the rest of that. But I don't

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think it's entirely outlanched speculative about that. On the other hand, you create

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a martyr, you know, Trump
is Obi wan Kenobi right, you strike

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him down because Trump isn't becomes more
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rational calculation, even of an irrational
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on the left. I think.
So that's why I think it's unlikely and

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implausible, but completely outlandish. I
mean, we nothing prises me right now.

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I have to say I never ever
thought I'd be cheering on Robert F.

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Kennedy junior. Ever, you know
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I was twice offered the opportunity to
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and I declined, oh, the
environmental stuff, yeah, because he

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was a wacko. I said,
I'm you know, well, yeah,

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in retrospect it would have. But
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sudden, I'm watching him, you
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things. Oh sorry, I'm straying
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that he really actually wants to win, or is actually in it and not

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just symbolically, is his backtracking and
global warming. He says, we've been

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using climate change to frighten people.
This is long. It's authoritarian government in

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action. The solution to climate change
will be free markets and technological improvement.

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Well that's a long way from saying
what he did fifteen years ago that the

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CEOs of Exxon and Chevron should be
put in prison. So also changed on

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vacs. Yes, you see.
He also has now said I have all

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my childhood vaccines. It's just the
COVID vaccine I'm worried about. Yeah,

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right, that's right now. That
that kind of trimming shows some someone to

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me who's wanting seriously to win.
I don't think you will, but you

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know that. So it's not just
a lark. So you can respond to

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Lucretia's point about the Justice Department and
so on, because I actually I think

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ties into other news we've got to
talk about, like the whistleblowers, like

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this incredible confidential informant report about barisma
and the bribery that's going on is I

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think you're totally right Lucretia about the
difference in treatment. So so one I

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would I'm not surprised. In fact, I would think the Justice Department's highest

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priority would be right January six,
This is an attack on the Capitol.

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Even if Trump's not evolved, it
should be the highest priority. This was

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an effort to stop the peaceful transition
of power from the losing party to the

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winning party. So even if Trump
has nothing to do with January six,

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never appeared on the ellipse, never
gave his speech, I still think that

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would be the highest priority for the
Justice Department. The thing that's disappointing is

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the right being taken in by the
Russia, Jim Hokombi being taken in by

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the Russia, hooks and the FBI
leadership, or the yeah, the poor,

414
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poor investigation into Hunter Biden. So
I don't think the fault is with

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the January six investigation. The fault
is what is going on with the other

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parts of the Department that are clearly
cutting Biden a break and all these investigations

417
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because they're trying to you know,
they're trying they're trying to give the current

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sitting president fire lighted treatment, then
they gave the last sitting president. Well

419
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wait a minute, let's just stop
at the January sixth prosecution. Why why

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are January six protesters who did no
more than walk in at the behest of

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the capitol police receiving much worse treatment
being you know, put in solitary confinement

422
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.160
and all of those other things.
And the guy who murdered an unarmed woman

423
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shot at her through a door with
a violence, getting every possible He was

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an idiot. Of course we know
he left his service revolve around, but

425
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I mean, it was just a
total idiot, and he killed her.

426
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He shot her. He should have
at least been charged with manslaughter. I

427
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think he should have been charged with
murder. They hit him, they put

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him away. They lied about the
fact that five cops were killed. No

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cops were killed on January six.
Five Trump supporters were killed on January six,

430
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many of them beaten. I mean, this whole thing is it's a

431
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crock John. I don't know if
you don't read about everything that happens or

432
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what, but there's a lot of
reason to believe people had legitimate not Sidney

433
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:51.079
Powell reasons, but legitimate reasons to
believe that the election was stolen by maybe

434
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.519
even not stolen fair and Squares Steve
likes to say by changes to election rules.

435
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:59.799
It shouldn't have been changed and so
on. And you know that's frustrating

436
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:05.359
to people when they when somebody says
Biden got eighty one million votes and he

437
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.400
couldn't even get ten people to show
up at a rally. You know that

438
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there was too much for people who
saw what was going to happen and what

439
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.200
did happen when Biden came into office
to just take it lightly. And the

440
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.119
idea that that in a democracy and
a republican form of government should be criminal

441
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is it's appalling to me. I
guess I'm yeah, I think. I

442
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mean, I saw the video what
happened in January sixth, I mean,

443
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you saw some of the video.
You're right, there's some people who might

444
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.759
have just been along with the crowd. There were, but they were definitely

445
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:44.440
people who used force to try to
prevent the counting of electoral votes under the

446
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constitution should be prosecuted. Well,
what kind of nobody had a weapon?

447
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.519
Nobody had a weapon, not a
single weapon. They used physical force,

448
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.880
they had to evacuate the capital,
and then there were people running around the

449
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capital trying to find the Vice president
and members of Congress to attack them,

450
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.359
maybe with their bare hands. Well, let me let me try and come

451
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:10.000
in the middle here and say you'd
stipulated both of you. Are you know

452
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.440
you can reach you can reach independent
conclusions and induce evidence for them. I

453
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.960
don't think that you can say that
we there's hasn't been an asymmetry of criminal

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enforcement here. And I'm just thinking
all the years of you know, protests

455
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that shut down federal buildings. What
about all the protesters are trying to disrupt

456
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.519
the Brett Kavanaugh hearings in twenty eighteen. I don't think any of them faced

457
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.320
any criminal charges. I think they're
all, you know, given the citation,

458
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.719
let go in case dismissed. And
even this goes back to the anti

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00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.920
war protest years ago. I think
that there is a political premium for the

460
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January six protests, which, by
the way, they were never going to

461
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succeed. I mean, you know, Lucretia gave you her her outrageous statement.

462
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Mine was suppose they supposed a group
of them very angry. Maybe they

463
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.920
didn't have good Maybe they didn't have
clubs. Maybe I don't know, sharp

464
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:07.239
object whatever. Suppose they actually broken
into the room or Vice President Pence was

465
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being kept. What was about to
happen, Then you're going to have some

466
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.320
secret Well, now I'll leave that
quie. What would have happened then,

467
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I think we know would have happened. The Secret Service agents would have unloaded

468
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.440
a lot of hot lead on people
and that would have been the end of

469
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.880
it. And that would have been
a very ugly thing if that had happened.

470
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But that didn't happen. And that's
why I say that the bit of

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this is why I you know,
uh, all this loose talk of an

472
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:37.559
insurrection and you know the constitution was
hanging by its really preposterous. It's hard

473
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to take seriously. And even if
they chased them out of the capitol,

474
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okay, they resemble them next day
somewhere, and to vote the electors in

475
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:51.400
um would have been your regular would
have been upsetting. But the the hyperbole

476
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:53.400
by the left and the media on
this, but I repeat myself, is

477
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:59.800
in commensurate to a the circumstances and
be the enforcement aftermath. It seems to

478
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:05.039
me not to mention all the all
the really sketchy things that that are we

479
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.840
don't have. What what the hell
with Calamala Harris and those bombs and you

480
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.880
know, just what the hell with
Ray Apps? What the hell with the

481
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.480
fact that we now know that there
were multiple FBI undercover agents in the crowd.

482
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.840
What I mean, all of that
goes on. Why did Lloyd Austin

483
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:29.559
pull the Lloyd Austin? Why did
the Secretary of Defense he was all of

484
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:37.400
the UH planned for armed h troops
that were going to help the Capitol police.

485
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.760
Why did the Capitol police say they
didn't need him. Why was there

486
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all of this conspiracy stuff going on, which is documented. I'm not making

487
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.599
this up. Why if I don't
think a single January sixth person should have

488
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ever been even so much as arrested, That is my belief. I don't

489
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think extreme. I think the people
who were Asian and the fighting with the

490
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.119
Capitol police, and the videos not
even that from the beginning to the end,

491
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they doesn't matter if you walk police, doesn't matter if they walked in

492
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.840
or not. But they were.
I mean, they're peep video of people

493
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physically attacking Capitol police who are not
using any weapons against them. I mean,

494
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I thought that was important. I'm
glad this happened that there was no

495
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except for that one case, and
I agree there should have been more publicly

496
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.000
investigated about shooting of Ashley Babbitt.
But aside from that, the Capitol police

497
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.920
did not fire on the protesters and
instead engaged. You know, we're engaged

498
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.239
with hand to hand combat. Unfortunately. I think those people should be prosecuted

499
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.519
at a minimum, I mean,
how can we How could you let them

500
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.880
go? Yeah, well, I
don't know who started it, To be

501
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:49.519
honest with you, if you're not
engaged in self they're not engaged in self

502
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.599
defense. From the videos you say, you say, lucreation, these certain

503
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.599
aspects of this that you mentioned are
documented. That's true, although I don't

504
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.800
think we really actually know the whole
story about particular decisions you mention. And

505
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.039
the other thing is that I'm surprised
that we've not had a thorough investigation this.

506
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.800
The other thing I know, and
actually I know this John from talking

507
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.880
to people in the administration after the
Mileolenopolis riot at Berkeley, say, you

508
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.719
know, you had a whole bunch
of policemen inside the building and they stayed

509
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.239
there, they didn't go out to
confront the writers and try and contain it.

510
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.880
And I guess this is correct because
I did some research later on about

511
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this, that in fact, that
the police have a calculus for riots and

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00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.960
mob action and they think they actually
like a military force on the battlefield.

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00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.719
They think they need numerical superiority,
and they did not have that. The

514
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.320
Capitol Police didn't have that on January
sixth. Now, as Lucretia points out,

515
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:43.360
various calls including at one point apparently
from President Trump to have National Guard

516
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:49.000
or more Capitol Police or more Washington
DC police were turned away by who you

517
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.920
know and why and how and at
what point did that happen and what was

518
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.639
the decision calculus that we still don't
know, and that still bothers me an

519
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:59.199
awful lot. I'm all for,
I'm like, I'm all for not treating

520
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.920
the January sixth protests is one group
that all should be charged with the same

521
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:07.880
crime. There's got to be gradations
based on the severity of what they did.

522
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And say they were five hundred.
I think we talked about I say

523
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.519
there's five hundred of them, and
I think ultimately it was like around a

524
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:19.039
seven hundred maybe, Yeah, suppose
a hundred of them are really former military,

525
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.440
former law enforcement people. You can
see them moving in the crowds,

526
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.840
who actually want to kidnap Vice President
pens who want to actually kidnap the leaders

527
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:34.679
of Congress. I think they should
and like nap every single day, and

528
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.400
they are. It is an assaultment. It was an assault, an assault

529
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:42.920
on the persons of public officials government, more an assault than it is on

530
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.559
the little old lady walking down the
street in Oh, that's not true.

531
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:52.920
We don't have a monarchy. We
don't know we have people carrying out constitutional

532
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.639
functions of government who are assaulted in
the middle of doing them. I don't

533
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.079
know that somebody was actually assaulted in
the middle of doing them. I don't

534
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.639
think that to count. They were
trying to count the electoral votes. They

535
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.480
were in the process of announcing and
counting the electoral votes. These people tried

536
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:13.039
to break into write the room where
they were doing them and stop them,

537
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:19.320
and brand Kavanaugh didn't matter. Why
don't we mark you guys down as undecided?

538
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.719
Yeah, we don't need to keep
arguing, and we've had this argument

539
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.039
before. Let's talk for a little
bit about the bidens do we have to

540
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.000
we do because nobody is. And
what I wanted to do was revisit our

541
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:44.239
conversation Steve eternal infernal optimism about Oh, the media is gonna come around as

542
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.400
soon as this story gets juicy enough, they're gonna take it up. It

543
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.480
doesn't matter how devoted they are to
the left, leftist causing the Bidens,

544
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.239
are going to take it up.
They haven't. The mainstream media has had

545
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.239
very little a few of them now
it has not. It should be the

546
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.119
front page story on everything, every
minute of the day. The level of

547
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.639
corruption that has been revealed this past
week, there has been proven this last

548
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:15.559
week about the Biden crime family ought
to be the biggest news story in the

549
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.719
world. So two points on that. One is there have been a couple

550
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.360
of stories in the last ten days
in prominent places about gosh, Biden's health

551
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:27.480
and age is really looking bad,
and I think that's part of the narrative

552
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.960
of we're trying to build a slow
boil to force him out now. The

553
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:36.159
second about just coming out and saying
it's a Biden crime family. Why in

554
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:40.400
Ukraine? Because Biden is corrupt and
all. That was my next point,

555
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.480
which is, this is a strange
thing about the media. They have a

556
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.840
well, there's two aspects of this
problem. They have a not invented here

557
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.239
mentality and they hate Republicans. So
who's driving a story, Well, it's

558
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.440
Republican congressional investigations, and they're not
going to want to give them credit.

559
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In other words, if there's been
some reports, let's go back to twenty

560
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.559
fifteen, twenty sixteen, the New
York Times did that big story on Clinton

561
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.000
cash. That's because Peter Schweitzer worked
very hard to plant that story with the

562
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:12.159
mainstream media, not with congressional hearings. He didn't go about it that way.

563
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.760
He and by the way, Peter
pretty John boy Amen I talked to

564
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.079
Peter about this. He said that, and you know, Peter's just done

565
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.519
this book on the Biden corruption in
the last two three months. That's pretty

566
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.599
good. And because his investigative team
is pretty solid. And he said the

567
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.280
same New York Times people told him
a couple of years ago, off if

568
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.599
you find that kind of stuff on
the Bidens will want to report it.

569
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.400
And he says, I've given it
all two of them. They they haven't

570
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.039
wanted to. So that's a point
for you, Lucretia. But but even

571
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.159
him, if you go back far
enough, you know, you go back

572
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to the famous Hiss hearings. Media
didn't want to cover that, but Nixon

573
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.519
stayed after it and the Bunch eventually
they had to cover it. And I

574
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.599
think that's going to happen here.
Yeah, there's no evidence for it,

575
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.320
and John John said, and and
don't let me put words in your mouth,

576
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.800
John, But as I recall,
you said that, what it's it's

577
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really going to take much more than
a media attention to these stories. It's

578
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:08.920
going to take congressional hearings and congressional
hearings that lead to action by by Congress

579
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.400
itself. I think was the way
you put it. But but correct me

580
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.960
if I'm wrong. Yeah, And
I think that's what you're seeing now.

581
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.559
I mean, that's how we're getting
all the information today. It's not from

582
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:25.719
the media digging. It's from congressional
investigators or just a determined senator. I

583
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:32.039
think it's incredible report that we all
now have from the confidential source who was

584
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.880
talking to the CEO of Barisma,
right, someone, some whistleblower just you

585
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.559
know, gave that to Grassley and
he just put it immediately online. Didn't

586
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.159
come about from the media. You'd
think the media would be trying to track

587
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.440
down this guy. Whoever, if
he's alive, right, there's some guy

588
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.920
who want to be, you know, how to be a witness protection It

589
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.880
would be whoever this confidential sources.
But you know, you can actually tell

590
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.760
if you read the report where that
guy is on certain days and times,

591
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.360
because he's meeting with the sea.
It says in their Boardi's meeting with the

592
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.760
Sea of Barisma in these days and
times, in these places, enterprising journalists,

593
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.800
could you find out who this person
probably is? So let me try

594
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.519
to synthesize something between the two of
you here, which one of you gets

595
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:23.840
something to happen. I mean,
what actually makes it so that the incredible

596
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:29.760
corruption, which I think is a
serious national security issue if nothing else,

597
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:37.639
because we're in Ukraine and it's very
very obvious that this nonsense that we're fighting

598
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:42.000
for in Ukraine has its origins in
the corruption of the Biden family with the

599
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:47.559
Ukrainians. But anyway, that's my
opinion. But if Congress is now actually

600
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:52.679
getting to the bottom of things,
then what happens what needs to happen next,

601
00:44:53.599 --> 00:45:00.519
so that we are in a watergate
situation that where Biden recog noises that

602
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.440
he's been caught anyway. Yeah,
he doesn't recognize his own name. But

603
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.840
right somebody on his behalf says it's
done, We're done. Go out there,

604
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.760
say I resign, I turned it
over to Gommela and goes off to

605
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.760
play with little girls in Delaware.
That will make him a hero with giving

606
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.400
us our first woman of color president
if he went and did that. I

607
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:23.199
mean, there's a well makes that
way. Look, I mean again the

608
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.920
media cycle. Look, what you
need is you need a couple of prestige

609
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.800
reporters who had enough, had enough
of Biden, had enough with the conformity

610
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.760
of their own newsrooms. And we
have seen that in the past, remember,

611
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.559
and they've they've they've crucified him.
No, let's go back to Lisa

612
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.519
Myers of NBC News and the Clinton
Ears, who broke the story of one

613
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.760
Nita brother Rick being raised current well
clar I mean, well, all right,

614
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.119
uh, well, we don't know
who they are the time. I

615
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.360
would have never thought Lisa Myers would
break that story twenty thous long years ago.

616
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.920
She was very much the establishment reporter
and by the way, her own

617
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.039
editors try to stop her from reporting
that story. She had to lead it

618
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.079
to the Wall Street Journal to bring
heat on NBC News to let her report

619
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.840
that story. Something like that's going
to have to happen here. I don't

620
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.039
know who it will be or what
it'll be. But by the way,

621
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:12.719
well, but of course he's left
CBS. Same problem. But even the

622
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.679
Watergate story, you know, the
mainstream reporters in Washington said, there's no

623
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.519
story here. Who are these two
city reporters with the post flogginess that that

624
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.639
was again the not invented here thing. It wasn't until it took a long

625
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.079
time, until finally the rest of
them joined the bandwagon. And I think

626
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:32.079
there's a chance that'll happen here.
So do you, John, I think

627
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.719
Congress could do more. You could
say this was just the first step into

628
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.519
hearing. It's actually quite a testament
what you can do in controlling only one

629
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.639
house. They were able to get
all this information out of the government.

630
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.039
There's probably more to get. They
could conduct their own investigation instead of just

631
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:54.400
what they're doing so far I think
is really just asking questions of the FBI.

632
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.159
They could put together their own investigatory
staff and conduct their own investigation.

633
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.559
I've done one, and you know, if you think back to This is

634
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:07.840
kind of like Whitewater back in the
early nineties where Clinton's president, but there's

635
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.599
a lot of things coming about about
what Hillary was doing, what their friends

636
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.599
were doing back in Arkansas, and
the Justice Department in the FBI were very

637
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.760
reluctant to investigate them because they were
they were he was the president at the

638
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.280
time, he was the head of
law enforcement officer. And so Congress put

639
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:28.039
its own committee together, hired its
own former federal prosecutors, and did its

640
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.679
own real investigation, and that eventually
led to the appointment of the Special Council,

641
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.079
you know, Ken Starr eventually became
So I think you Congress could do

642
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.880
more. They could have real investigations. You could take a page out of

643
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.960
the Trump playbook, the anti Trump
playbook. A lot of what I'm reading

644
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.920
so far is not necessarily just a
federal crime. It'd be a state crime.

645
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.159
So yes, no US attorney is
going to want to investigate I'm surprised

646
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:58.079
this hasn't happened yet. Actually,
so maybe this is the you heard it

647
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.760
here first they were giving somebody an
idea, But right, no US attorney

648
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.000
is really going to go full bore
after Hunter and the brother and the other

649
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.199
family members who seemed to be receiving
just you know, periodic payments for an

650
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.840
exchange for no work from foreign governments
through various shell companies. A district attorney,

651
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:21.400
a state district attorney through which any
of these transactions went through or had

652
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.320
some connection to, could investigate and
bring charges to under state law, because

653
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.760
this would just be this would just
be theft, bribery, and fraud under

654
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.480
state law. And Hunter Biden is
not an officer of the federal government.

655
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:37.360
This is just a simple or this
is just a simple criminal enterprise. So

656
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.519
so a DA in New Jersey could
do it, a DA in Pennsylvania or

657
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.840
Delaware, you know, somewhere where
it had a connection, a physical connection

658
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.679
to what happened here could right,
in fact, some of could We could

659
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.920
find a red county out here in
California because remember, right the i RS

660
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:58.639
investigators wanted to bring charges in La. Remember, and the federal attorney out

661
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.519
here in LA refused to do it
because he's a Biden A point tee.

662
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.079
There's a lot of red counties out
here in California. You know, one

663
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.880
of those das might do it.
Well, I think that would be completely

664
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.039
legitimate under our federalism, right,
Yeah, I think the real smoking gun

665
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.159
here is I think the chambers of
the gun haven't even been loaded yet,

666
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.199
and it's all these shell companies.
What over twenty shell companies? We do

667
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.039
you need that many shell companies for? Well, that's to move money around,

668
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.039
and every time you do it it
gets harder to trace and forensic accounting.

669
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.639
I don't know how to do it
myself, but I know people who've

670
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.480
done this in big cases like Enron
twenty years ago and World Calm, and

671
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:39.199
also some criminal activities beyond corporate mouthfeasons. And it's painstaking work that takes months

672
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.119
to unravel. So where's all the
cash gone? I mean, can't we

673
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.599
just look up somebody's bank account and
find out how much is in it?

674
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.119
I don't know if it's that's simple
or not. That would be that would

675
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.239
be the very first thing you would
do in this kind of cases. You

676
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:57.400
see this confidential source saying that Brismas
CEO said he paid this much money in

677
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.360
bribes to the Bidens on roughly these
days. Then the first thing you would

678
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.519
do is you would look at the
bank accounts of the Biden family members to

679
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:10.239
see if any cash came in with
Yeah, he says that I'm sitting next

680
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:15.320
to my father right now and the
payment came in a couple of days later.

681
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.840
Yeah, it's not hard, but
as you say, Steve, it

682
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.920
takes time and it takes people,
but it can't be done. And I

683
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:27.000
think a state DA could do it
if they wanted to. There was a

684
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.079
brave one out there who wanted to. Yeah, I mean the real one

685
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.199
will be if you find that often
when you're doing these things like this,

686
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.559
money to go to a shell company
and it's transferred immediately, I mean literally

687
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.679
within the same hour. And so
the thing that the chain you'd like to

688
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:42.760
see is, you know, from
shell company A to Shell Company B to

689
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.880
Swiss bank account. That's when you'd
have or now or you know, the

690
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:51.599
Grand Cayman Islands or both. You
to me, I always want to oversimplify

691
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.199
these things, but I honestly I
look at what I see. Just you

692
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.639
said there's probably more to it,
Steve, I agree with you. But

693
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.679
what we what we know and what
we suspect based upon evidence it's leaking out

694
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.800
this, I mean, Whitewater was
nothing compared to this. That was just

695
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:12.480
a little local Arkansas corruption. Compared
to what and as I say, this

696
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:19.480
involves genuine questions of national security China, Ukraine. It's not like, you

697
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.440
know, they were getting ten thousand
dollars from the French ambassador to make sure

698
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.559
he got a better house on you
know, in Washington, DC. This

699
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:35.199
is serious stuff. And I guess
the fact that nobody wants except for partisans,

700
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.719
want to take it seriously. How
is it a partisan issue anymore?

701
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:43.719
I'm I'm a bit flabbergasted by it. I guess we're just so corrupt and

702
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:49.039
so partisan in our way of looking
at these things, and that bothers me.

703
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:52.719
I'd like to think if that was
my president I had voted for,

704
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:58.639
I would be demanding he'd be tried
for treason and executed. That's what I

705
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.159
would be doing. The thing that. You know, if you're just some

706
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:07.880
nonpartisan American looking out this, I
think you have to wonder how could they

707
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.440
be so brazen about all this?
And I have a simple theory. I

708
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:16.320
think when Biden was leaving the sorry, the Obama administration, uh, he

709
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.960
didn't think he was going to run
for president in twenty twenty. I think

710
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.000
he thought he was done. Everybody
thought he was done. He was old

711
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.800
and so he was already starting to
line his pockets as vice president, and

712
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.760
then continued after leaving office, Suddenly
he's got this big problem always going to

713
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.400
run for president after all, because
he's always wanted to and he's always had

714
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.639
the ego, and now this is
catching up to him. I think it's

715
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.039
going to catch up to him.
I still have confidence it's going to catch

716
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.239
up to him. I'll just don't
think you can. You can throttle me

717
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.400
later, Lucretia. But I think, or even if he gets I think

718
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.519
it's going to get away with it. I think he's going to get away

719
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:51.320
in the sense that he will run
for a president. He'll be the Democratic

720
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.159
If he's not the Democratic nominee,
it's not going to be this that takes

721
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.079
it down. Well, okay,
let me take you to that, then,

722
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.559
John, let me take you and
ask you what you think is this?

723
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:08.400
So I am actually a little bit
amazed at how how very stridently the

724
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:19.239
left is making sure that JFK RFK
Junior Cornell West, Joe Mansion, no

725
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:24.360
labels Joe Mansion. I actually I
went to look something up, and I

726
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:29.480
looked up the Democratic Party nominees just
to see what I got. And there

727
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:34.880
were about fifteen articles saying how corrupt
No Labels were by all these Oh yeah,

728
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.239
isn't that interesting, right? So
what's what's that all about? What

729
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:43.440
why not give someone else a chance? Yeah? Well, they're terrified and

730
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.320
no Labels, even though I think
Joe Mansion will be a terrible nominee for

731
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.119
No Labels. The Democrats hate um
for blocking Biden's agenda, and I think

732
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:54.440
any Republicans paying attention hate him too
for capitulating the Biden on the Inflation Reduction

733
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:59.360
Act. I think he's the worst
nominee they could pick, but he's got

734
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.280
a big ego and would like to
do it because he'll otherwise get crushed running

735
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.119
for Senate again. And by the
way, he's seventy five, seventy six

736
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.960
season. It will spring chicken.
Either got to pick some younger person that

737
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.639
they're going to do it. There
is a poll out showing something like forty

738
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:15.840
seven percent of Americans say they'd consider
a third party candidate this cycle, which

739
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.599
means the person might get twenty percent. I don't know. I don't think

740
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.599
that's going anywhere, but you can
tell that the left is really afraid of

741
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:28.639
it because they're absolutely Oh they're going
crazy over it, which surprises me.

742
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.199
But that's because the Poles allegedly show
this throws the election to Trump. Right,

743
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:35.920
it would be like the reverse of
Ross Perro running, which through the

744
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.360
election to Clinton. Right. You
guys are a political scientist, isn't there

745
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:44.400
there's like some mathematical theory right that
says if you have first passed the post

746
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:50.400
elections, that it's like just impossible
for there to be a permanent third party.

747
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.320
That just you can't really have results
other than a two party system with

748
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:57.960
that kind of voting with geographic diservice. Yeah, yeah, as long as

749
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:01.519
you don't have proportional representation. Yeah, yeah, it's impossible for Yeah,

750
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:06.239
so it's just it's sort futile to
do this third party thing, then,

751
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.719
isn't it. Yeah, Well,
of course the leaders of it say that

752
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.920
if they look like they were going
to be a spoiler instead of a real

753
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.119
contender and throw the race to one
person or the other, they would drop

754
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.920
out. Now I don't sure I
believe them, because well I don't know

755
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.960
to see what, because their egos
are driving them in the first place.

756
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.880
Yes, well, they supposedly you're
going to have a convention in March and

757
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.000
pick a person in March. If
they's then filed to be on ballots that

758
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:30.599
they've qualified for, I'm not sure
how they can pull out and drop out.

759
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:37.000
The other thing is maybe my updated
version of Russia Limbaugh's old Operation Chaos

760
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:42.239
is to say, maybe we have
to look at that interstate compact or electoral

761
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.159
college compact idea again that the lefty
reformer has been pushing. You know how

762
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.599
that goes right is that every state
would agree that they would cast their electoral

763
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.199
votes for whoever got won the popular
vote. Not It's a terrible idea.

764
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.920
I think it may be unconstitutional.
But the mischief here is on the just

765
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:02.320
the row calculation is that would favor
candidates like Michael Bloomberg, who can spend

766
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:06.199
billions, or Howard Schultz, remember
he was going to run as a Democrat

767
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:10.199
for a while. A billionaire who
can fund their own campaign might conceivably get

768
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.880
thirty two percent of the vote or
something like that, or in this case,

769
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:19.480
would throw the just like no labels
would throw the popular vote majority not

770
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:23.559
a majority, but the largest polarity
to Trump. Would California's Democratic electors want

771
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:27.280
to be forced to cast their electoral
votes for Trump. That would be the

772
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.119
end of that very bad idea,
which is why I sit here sitting back

773
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.639
while watching all this with the mischievous
designs in my heart. So why not

774
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:39.559
embraced Cornell West if you're the left? Oh, but you know he's always

775
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:45.039
been, you know he remember well
remember what he called Obama? They called

776
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:51.679
him? He called Obama Nelson Rockefeller
in blackface. That was his phrase.

777
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.559
No, really, yes, And
I never heard that before. West is

778
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.960
the strange guy. I mean,
you know, as we know, he

779
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.119
team teaches a class on great books
with Rob George. He likes Plato and

780
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:05.559
Aristotle. He used to show up
once in a while for Claremont Institute panels

781
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.519
at the APSA where he would usually
ask a serious question. It would be

782
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:12.800
from the left, but it wasn't
some clown question, right, and they

783
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.719
loved talking to people afterwards. And
I was kind of marveled at that.

784
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.119
And the point is that he's you
know, he loves Castro, and he's

785
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.880
a socialist and a deep leftist,
but he's actually takes his religion seriously and

786
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:27.639
he descends him the left on all
those censorious, uh you know, anti

787
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:31.000
free speech, anti free expression stances, And so I think the deep left

788
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.480
these days, or you know,
the woke left. They don't like him,

789
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.760
and they haven't for quite a while. So that's one reason they don't

790
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:39.440
rally it. And they're terrified to
him because what if he got what if

791
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:44.119
he peeled off from the black mode, right, think that would also screw

792
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.840
the Democrats. But maybe yes,
he guys not why doesn't Democrat vote for

793
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:53.559
Cornell West? But how has the
Biden camp successfully suppressed any competent person from

794
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:58.159
running? Like you could just put
it, you could mount to you know,

795
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:04.079
challenge through you know, the normal
Democratic Party primary system. Some governor,

796
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.880
some senator, they'd immediately get thirty
to forty percent of the vote,

797
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:12.159
right, and they could and and
you know, I don't see my gosh.

798
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.800
I think it's a it's silly for
the Democratic Party to say, oh,

799
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.800
the only reason we have to go
with Biden is because we know he

800
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.000
could beat Trump because he did it
in twenty twenty. That's the only reason

801
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:27.800
to put the guy up for the
presidency, given how old and has reduced

802
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:31.119
competency, and Kamala Harris is the
vice pres I mean, there's so many

803
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:35.480
reasons not to have Biden be or
not. You know I actually had somebody.

804
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.239
They've suppressed every single person, That's
what I mean. They've suppressed every

805
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:42.960
single can't. I mean that I
find that incredible that there's that amount of

806
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:47.559
party disapoint with what is why I
made my assassination claim that if they really

807
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.559
wanted to, they could do it. They've got They did it in the

808
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.840
in twenty twenty with Biden and it
was incredible. You mean, I see

809
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:58.719
ye dropped him up and they got
I mean they got everybody to drop out.

810
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.440
Yeah, you know, did all
of that. I honestly think though

811
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.800
it's because here, but you know
when, but in twenty twenty you actually

812
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:09.639
had some popular rivals. I mean
I think if they hadn't rallied around and

813
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.840
Bernie Sanders was going to win the
nomination and he was a sure loser.

814
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.840
I still think have I said this
before, I've said this on other podcasts

815
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.360
with other people, I'm still convinced
that Gavin Newsom is looking at it real

816
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.400
hard and I'll bet my hunch about
it is. And there has been some

817
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:30.320
chatter about this that round about October
November, which is about as late as

818
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:31.920
you can wait, he's going to
have it. I bet there's a decision

819
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.880
day on his calendar as to whether
to jump in or not. And I

820
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:39.320
think that would depend on what the
polls say how Biden is looking, which

821
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:44.400
is not very good. Democratic Party
polls show at least half the Democrats would

822
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.320
refer it to not be Biden.
And finally, I think he's got a

823
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:50.440
great campaign line, John, it
would be you know, I'm doing this

824
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.000
more in sorrow than an anger.
He's been great, but we need a

825
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.840
new generation of leadership. And so
I'm going to throw my hat in the

826
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.239
ring because I think it's time for
you know, younger jeneration. He's going

827
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:01.920
to take on these old guys,
and you know, I would cause a

828
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:06.719
ruckless in the party, but I
know his ambition knows no bounds. And

829
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.239
and he's the one guy. He's
been running a shadow campaign, let's face

830
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.880
it, and he's been careful not
to get on the bad side of Biden.

831
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.880
And he hates Harris. We know
that, right. They're they're not

832
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.800
even frenemies from way back, their
rivals from the Bay Area. And Lucretia

833
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:22.239
is thinking, I'm telling you see, if we need no, no,

834
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:23.800
no, no, I don't disagree
with anything you're saying I'm saying that we

835
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:34.199
need to take us quick break my
sponsors. Okay, so I do want

836
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.280
to ask you, guys, if
you saw anything about the fact that the

837
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:43.440
post DABS or the ramifications of the
DOBS decision have resulted in something interesting.

838
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:47.039
I'm going to leave aside for today
because we've already been at this for a

839
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:52.239
little while. The whole thing about
the military, which is just a nightmare.

840
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:57.280
I actually got invited. I got
invited to go to another state to

841
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:04.480
a conference on include US and transgenderism
in the military by the military. Sorry,

842
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.800
okay, sorry, sorry, I'll
be quiet now. But I do

843
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:15.119
want to mention about the thirteen Republican
state governors who have sent letters to some

844
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:20.119
of the major and the CEOs of
some of the major corporations in America reminding

845
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:23.079
them that it is no longer legal
for them to uh, you know,

846
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:28.679
have quota systems, to start counting
their people, hiring their people, et

847
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.280
cetera, et cetera, on the
basis of race. And then you had

848
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:37.519
I forget how many Democratic governors sent
counter letters saying, oh, don't you

849
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:39.920
worry that, you know, it's
still perfectly legal for you to uh to

850
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:45.199
celebrate diversity and inclusion and this and
that. I just want to let you

851
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:47.960
guys think about that. Is it
gonna go to the corporate world? It

852
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.920
is it a ruling that applies to
the corporate world. John, This is

853
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:59.519
an interesting aspect of the Harvard case
that really didn't get focused on at the

854
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.280
time, which is, if you
remember this, there are two different causes

855
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:07.119
of action. One was under the
fourteenth Amendment, right that unc Chapel Hill

856
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:10.519
state actor can't discriminate on the basis
of race. Harvard, however, is

857
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:15.800
not a state actor. So the
plaintiffs there went under the nineteen sixty four

858
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.440
Civil Rights Act and said, you're
receiving federal funds, you can't discriminate on

859
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.480
the basis of race. Most employers
don't fall under either these two categories.

860
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:27.800
Right. The most private point,
you know, if if you're a GM

861
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:34.519
or you're a private employer and you
have a racial quota system, you're not

862
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.320
prevented from doing that by the fourteenth
Amendment. You know, you're not a

863
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:42.559
state, and you're not prevented by
Title six. I'm not finished, but

864
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.639
no, okay, this but this
is no no. But this is where

865
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.360
it comes. What's important is Title
seven of the Civil Rights Act, which

866
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:54.280
says that private employers cannot discriminate on
the basis of race either. So there's

867
01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:00.360
been this gap though, but caused
by case called Webber that was a Brennan

868
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:05.840
class skill which said that, yeah, where the Title seven's requirements need not

869
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:09.280
necessarily be the same as the Fourteenth
Amendments requirement that you not use race.

870
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:13.960
The decision makes no sense right there, you read decision, It just makes

871
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.679
no sense. It goes quite contrary
to the legislative history of the Civil Rights

872
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.800
Act, where you have Hubert Humphrey, the you know, the great supporter

873
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.360
of the Civil Rights Act, saying
you can't discriminate on race an appointment.

874
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:28.840
So it was just my sort of
long way of saying the next case,

875
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.280
I think a one of the next
big cases after Harvard case, is going

876
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:37.239
to be Weber must be overruled.
And Title seven means the same thing as

877
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.639
Title six. They're both part of
the same law, the sixty four Act,

878
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:44.239
and those two both mean the same
thing as the Fourteenth Amendment, that

879
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:50.920
you cannot use race as a preference
to give out benefits either, just as

880
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.119
well as all this as well as
you can't use it to punish people.

881
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:58.639
But that's last step hasn't happened yet. There's still that gap that's created by

882
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:03.320
this this I think utterly mistaken precedent
that says, oh Title seven, even

883
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.280
though it says you can't discriminate on
the basis of race, it still allows

884
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:12.719
you to if you're trying to have
affirmative action programs and employment to make up

885
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:16.280
for right, what bad things happened
but in society in the past. But

886
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.000
my question for you would be,
and this is probably just is going to

887
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:25.519
show my ignorance on the subject.
But remember during COVID, one of the

888
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:33.079
reasons why we had to mandate mandate
vaccines at the university was because if we

889
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:36.880
didn't, we would lose our government
contracts. There isn't a major corporation out

890
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:44.719
there that doesn't have a government contract. Can you not six of the Civil

891
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:49.000
Rights Act to corporations through that same
legal reasoning? Or am I just stretching

892
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:51.880
it too far to oh so?
Like, I think it applies to government

893
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:57.159
contractors too. But right, the
main point of Title seven is that it

894
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.920
basically covers everybody. Right, So
that's right. I think that's the important

895
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:05.480
thing is to use Title seven,
you know, bring Title seven into harmony

896
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:11.639
with the fourteenth Amendment so that you
have no businesses involved in interstate commerce.

897
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:15.679
You know, this is where conservatives
might have some angst because we also don't

898
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.559
think the commerce clause does cover everybody, but you know, it covers I

899
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:23.360
think it covers all businesses larger than
twenty five employees. I think. I

900
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.239
don't know if the Congress has lifted
that number up or reduced it, but

901
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:31.679
still that's how these businesses get away
with having racial preferences and hiring and promotion

902
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:36.599
because they claim Weber lets them because
of this old Brennan opinion from the seventies.

903
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.719
Yeah, so the Internet that's happening
outside the narrowly legal sphere is a

904
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:44.199
great, great story in the Walter
Journal on this Friday. But I've been

905
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:49.199
tracking us for a while. Is
the shrinkage of d EI offices in business

906
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.599
corporations, and so more people are
leaving. They're not feeling a lot of

907
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:58.639
jobs, they're laying off a lot
of people in these various d EI offices

908
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:02.760
that they added really just year twenty
twenty in response to the Saint George Floyd

909
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:08.440
as he's called now and this makes
perfect sense to me, because this was

910
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.920
all virtues signaling by big companies,
and what all these people do, well,

911
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.000
they're glorified hr people who are suddenly
extending their remit to products that are

912
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.800
being made and all the rest of
that. Now, it's one thing for

913
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:25.320
universities to ignore their principles of meritocracy
to some extent, but actually businesses can't

914
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.760
really do that. Big businesses can
absorb a lot of waste, but they

915
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.519
still have to be meritocracies. They've
got to have engineers and know how to

916
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:35.000
build bridges, crop properly and so
forth. And they can't put this up.

917
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.960
They can't put up with this for
very long. And I'm not surprised

918
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.360
by the way. You can find
several articles I've clipped in the last year

919
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.639
from the Chronicle of Higher Education.
Let's say, DI administrators on university campuses

920
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:54.000
are demoralized, depressed, high turnover
in their jobs. Why is that because

921
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:58.039
no one really pays any attention to
them. I mean, everyone will genuflect

922
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.079
and say, oh, we're absolutely
committed to the EI. But then when

923
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.880
the d EI offices, can we
look at your syllabus to see if it's

924
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:06.519
inclusive of you? Know, your
readings and stuff. All the faculty,

925
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.719
even left wing faculty, say hell
no, we're not gonna lie. And

926
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.159
so you know, you hear these
people quoting the Chronicle of High Reed saying

927
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.840
we're depressed, and I moralized that
we don't get more engagement from faculty and

928
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.000
said, no, they hate you, even the liberals hate tell right,

929
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:23.800
Can I tell a little story about
this about you know, this is just

930
01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:27.320
very illustrates what you're talking about.
Is. I hate to say it,

931
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:32.519
but years ago I proposed a reading
list and it was pointed out to me

932
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:38.039
by one of these people who had
the right to review it, that there

933
01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:43.880
were no women authors on my syllabus. And I said, really, I

934
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:46.039
had I not noticed one way or
the other and says, so can you

935
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:51.519
add some women authors? And I
said no? And then nothing happened.

936
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:56.800
Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
but that's a demonstration of the kind of

937
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.920
crap we have to crawl through.
It's like I was hold to add women

938
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.760
authors by one of these officers.
And but you know, if you if

939
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:09.920
you actually push back against them,
there they can't actually write right, take

940
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.679
away your academic freedom, I think, I think, I hope, But

941
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:15.239
they gave up this. I think
they know they can't, right, Yeah,

942
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:18.760
they'll they'll have a whisper campaign about
you behind your back. But who

943
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:23.960
cares? Right? So the other
lefty professors that you don't like anyway don't

944
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:28.640
like you even less or more.
However that works? All right? I

945
01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:31.520
was wondering, must be so stressful
then to figure out which authors to include

946
01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:34.880
that you didn't even think of as
being a leading voice in that field.

947
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:42.520
Origin how stupid that is? Yeah? Oh well, so, um,

948
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:45.800
do you have the communism for us
today? Since we're gonna do? Although

949
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:51.359
it's probably it's not. I have
to say it's actually more disturbing than funny.

950
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:58.199
But here's uh so this is very
recent. Our vice president was at

951
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:05.359
Coppin State Universe in Baltimore and she
said this about global warming. When we

952
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:11.600
invested in clean energy and electric vehicles
and reduce the population, more of our

953
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:15.439
children can breathe clean air and drink
clean water. Elicited an applause from the

954
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.399
audience. Apparently right, yes,
and she meant to say pollution. Am

955
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:23.520
I to understand that was what the
script said? Yeah, they edited it

956
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:27.039
afterwards. We don't know about the
script, but they edited the transcript afterwards

957
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:31.760
to say pollution. But you know, Steve knows this kind of enthusianism really

958
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:34.680
is the you know, she was
just being honest, right, This is

959
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:40.359
the kind of enthusiasm beyond behind the
environmental movement. They call that a fruitian

960
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:45.760
slip maybe yeah, same quiet part
out loud right, yeah yeah. Okay,

961
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.680
So I have again a tough time
on my part to try to pick

962
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:56.439
the best Babylon be The one I'll
picked for today is because it's pertinent to

963
01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.800
what we talked about. Hero.
I think this is what you said,

964
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.920
actually, John, Hero Biden announces
he will donate the rest of his bribe

965
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:12.399
money to charity. You want to
send us out, Well, my favorite

966
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:16.000
one is the Babylon Bee just in
the last twenty four hours had LA billion

967
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:19.760
dollars lottery and are happy he's finally
be able to foard departments. Yeah I

968
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:24.600
know this is crappy little apartment behind
it. That was good, right,

969
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.079
yeah? Okay, So well,
okay, sorry, I have to one

970
01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:36.840
more Miss Universe pageant adds best hair
chest hair competition. Oh okay, John,

971
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:43.520
take us out, Okay, always
drink your whiskey, Knat, let's

972
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.960
go, let's go, Brandon and
Steve, what's the one about the sod

973
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:50.439
save the Queen man? Oh,
I supposed to that. I was for

974
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:54.640
at one of them. But we'll
do your pig book next week, John,

975
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:58.520
when I'll back this because I've got
I've got all kinds of little piggy

976
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.560
things to say about it, so
awesome. Alright, bake care everyone,

977
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:32.920
have a great week. Ricochet join
the conversation.