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moment. Alex will be joining us from Cochran, Alberta, Canada. We're
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jump into it, Ladies and gentlemen. Alex reached out to me a few
weeks ago and he's got a great website, which is I'm gonna bring it
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If you'd like to reach out to him, you can go on the
website and you can connect with him there. Ladies and gentlemen, help me.
Welcome Alex from Cochrane, Alberta, Canada. How are you to today,
sir, I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me on the
show. Yeah for sure. Thanks, thanks for the email, and thanks
for all the information. And you've got some great stories with your family,
quite a legacy, and talking to you briefly before the show started, you're
doing a tremendous job of carrying that legacy. So please introduce yourself to the
audience. Hi, everybody, my name is Alex, and I came up
with this tagline this morning. I'm an inquisitive geocentrist and if anybody else wants
to borrow that lit label so you can escape the stigma of the flat earth,
the negative stigma. Please use inquisitive geocentrist. That's that's a good one.
That if we get a lot of recommendations, you know, biblical earth,
and that's a good one. Was that geocentric inquisitive you're inquisitive geocentrist in
and you can just play around with that. Nice So why don't you tell
the audience a little bit about your awakening process and like where was flat Earth
in your I guess your hierarchy of awakening? Okay, So I would say
that my awakening started pretty late in life, so I joke around that,
you know, Santa Claus kind of got killed in front of me way later
in life, so it was a little bit more traumatic. So I'd say
when I was about twenty four, twenty five years old, my electrical schools
teacher, just for fun, I don't know how we got on the topic,
but he was asking everybody in the class to raise their hand to see
who believed in the moon landing. And I was the only one that raised
their hand because I was the only one that I actually believed that went to
the moon and that that was about almost twenty years ago, and that was
kind of a huge eye opener to me that something so huge could be could
be a lie. And then obviously, over the last two years, basically
everything we've watched on the news, I would say has been a complete lie.
And anybody that you know disagrees with that, I'm sorry, but you
need to check reality because these people are not telling us the truth on the
news. Nothing is for our own good. It is to control us.
So funny enough that you know, we're talking about the stairwell to flat Earth.
So I started to get into jiu jitsu last year and I started following
Eddie Bravo. This is kind of a funny segue in the flat Earth,
but Eddie Bravo is a big jiu jitsu guy and he talks about flat Earth.
And I was listening to the Tinfoil Had podcast with Eric Dubey, Sam
Tripoli and I think one of the Gracie family members were on there. I
don't know if you've heard that episode before, George, Yeah, it's a
very it was very interesting, and I thought, oh, man, okay,
so I'm like, this is crazy. What are these guys talking about?
Um, you know, I know math, I know physics. I'm
not a I'm not a professor, but I know enough. I worked in
electrical engineering. I got this. I'm going to prove flatter the wrong once
and for all, and away we go. I started the deep dive,
and every hour, every like every minute, every hour that went by,
as I was uncovering, you know, appealing back the onion, I just
realized that the foundation that which we are taught on is it's nonsense. There's
so much wrong, and everybody always asked, well, what was it?
And we can get into that, but just you know, the things,
the lies that they talk on, you know, put on top of lies
to try and convince us that we're on this like spinning ball. We are
space monkeys that are evolving. And the more I got into it, the
you know, the more upset I was getting, because I you know,
I told myself that this will be very easy to shut down quickly. And
I hope that when I speak to people, I try to keep my passions
down so that I don't come across, as you know, too aggressive or
too assertive. I want people to be inquisitive and ask questions. And but
wow, once you start digging, it's it's an amazing journey and I'm really
grateful for it. It's actually like really revveed me up over the last I
guess I've been doing. I've been researching since August, and man, it's
just like I felt so alive when I had this epiphany in September of twenty
twenty two that you know, I had faith before, but this was like
that cementing of God made me for a reason. I'm here. I have
free will. The story of creation in Genesis is what happened, and the
creationist story of the Big Bang, that's the myth that that's the lie that
pulls you away from God. And you know, I had my Aha moment
that anything that's trying to pull you away from God is not good. Even
if even if the world isn't a you know, a flat plane like they
say it is, or if it's a triangle or a trapezoid, if if
this community can get you closer to God, it is a good thing.
And you know, I call myself a geocentrist now because I do believe in
the story of creation. I look, I look out into the sky and
I see the sun, and I see the moon. And even yesterday I
looked out, I saw the sun and the Moon at the same time in
the sky, and you know, the moon is not being blocked by the
Earth. I'm looking right at the sun like there's there's just so many things
that we can get into that too, but there's just so many things.
Once you start to like deprogram, you just notice you start trusting in your
senses again. And I think that's what so much of schooling and the programming
does to us. It takes us away from our get God given senses.
That is such an important point, and we talk about this so often,
is people are more They'll they'll take the word of somebody they've never met before
because they have on a white lab coat and a name tag versus what they
can see here, feel in touch. And it's time to start, you
know, start believing in the things you can see. Do these tests for
yourself. Some of these you can do very simply. I was listening to
you as you were describing your awakening, and I was thinking of Alex in
September twenty twenty two and thinking of myself, say again, oh, I
thought you said something. I'm sorry. I was thinking myself the same way.
You know, I'd read an article when I finally let my guard down
to look into this and the process, and you start to run your fingers
through your hair and you shake your head a little bit and you're like,
this can't be happening. There's no way. I mean, nine eleven is
one thing, you know, the golf of Tonk and Kennedy, this,
that and the other thing, and then you go it goes back to the
moon landing at like you said, And even as a young man, I
didn't buy off on that, on the whole thing. And now as time
moves on and you look at those videos from nineteen sixty nine, you can
tell they were, you know, like a bad Godzilla movie from the sixties
with the technology they had, and this is the only technology in the history
of the world that has gone backwards. Yet people will still boldly come on
we and again the thing they always go back to. Instead of look into
it and trying to disapprove it, they'll simply say either a it's too big
of a lie. Too many people are involved. And I can tell you
of someone who is in a very big organization, like the army. Compartmentalization
is real. And when you were talking about the news and how everything is
a lie, people will say the same thing. Well, how could they
get away with it? But they get They give it away with stuff every
single day. This monster, which is the government has turned into this huge
octopus that has zero accountability that they do what they want, they don't care
what we think at whatsoever. And because we've never held them accountable, this
octopus is only going to continue to grow unless we put our foot down right.
And I think that so many of us, I think so many people
need to realize that the atrocities of these lies are so poisonous and so awful,
and we also have these like emotional attachments to them, like something so
incredible happened, How could it? How could it be a lie? Right,
whether it's a good thing like going to the moon and man's greatest achievement,
or if it's nine to eleven, like, how could how could humans
do that to one another? The the I think this, these are the
things that short circuit people's brains, and when you have people like us talking
about it to them, it it cuts deep and they're not a lot of
people aren't ready for that, and maybe they never will be. And I
really like what you do on this podcast is you do it very well with
kindness, and you don't um make fun of anybody, and you don't um
you know, you don't trash anybody for their beliefs because we all were there,
we were all and and you know, I'll get emotional here, but
when we all die, we will all come back together again. And you
know, to me, that's that's a good thing. Well, we'll know
everything once we die and we go back to the source, and you know,
this this realm that we're in, it's one of my friends was asking
me, He's like, why did God give us free will? And or
why did God choose to give us free will? And I didn't know the
answer, and he says, he's so that you could choose God. And
I thought that was like wow to me, I thought that was incredible.
And how hard is it now to choose God when there's so much, you
know, depravity in the world, like sexual depravity and just all these horrible
things, like all these things that are coming at us for us to consume,
are are really meant to pull us away in one way or another,
from who we are, from our senses, from you know, the good
things that we can do when we go out into our communities and and you
know, serve to make it a better you know, a better place.
Yeah, going back to what you were saying earlier in the conversation I had
earlier today, when people say people couldn't do that out people think of the
evil that things do from their point of view. And what you have to
realize is people at the top of the food chain and the word you have
to use, their psychopaths. They don't have their switch like we have right
when we get angry, as we get really mad, we have a switch
that Okay, that's enough, you've yelled, you're not But they don't have
that switch. They look at us as a number. And if you don't
believe me, just if you're not familiar with the Georgia guidestones, these guys
are eugenics. They want to keep the world population at five hundred million.
They want you to believe that there's wall to wall people around the world.
There's no room left for anybody. And anybody who's been on an airplane before
knows how much land, unused land is out there. It's ridiculous to think
that we're being close to it. And they want you to think there's a
food shortage. Well, the reason where there's it's not really a food shortage.
It's just everybody depends on everybody else for food. That if the grocery
store is out of something, they consider that a food shortage. But this
society has made people, or led people to believe that it's more important to
have a pretty green lawn with no dandylion than it is to grow your own
food. Right, And I've been saying it for ten fifteen years. If
we all just tilled up our front yards and grew gardens, nobody would go
hungry, just just with the just with the front yards, not even in
the backyards. Yeah, it's funny. We have I've mentioned before we have
Amish friends. Um, their front yard is literally they use every square foot
of the yard for food. There. Their entire front yard is just cabbage
and celery and corn. Um that they have hundreds of chickens. I mean
they utilize every square inch they do. They go to the grocery store for
things. Sure, they do um our grocery stores in this area because we're
in a rural area. They have the little hitches for their horses and buggies.
Um, there's horsepoop all over the roads. Um, but they're the
most down to earth, healthy, loving people. We love interacting with them.
The children are healthy, They've run around with no shoes on on the
gravel. Um. They're really in touch. And I, you know,
I look at him, I said, sometimes I wish I could just be
like this, you know, just just throw all of it away. These
people don't sit around at their dinner table and are you go about Russia and
Ukraine and Trump and Biden. They're just not a part of that world,
right. I've been saying along, you know, since the pandemic started,
I said, somewhere in the in the bushes is a is a hunter and
he has no idea how terrified he's supposed to be. Yeah, he's just
going. He's just going about his life. And you know, growing up
my grandparents, I was telling you earlier that my grandparents are from Russia and
they'd seen some hard times, going through famines and had they had been locked
in prison for speaking out against the communists. And when they came to Canada,
the first thing they did when they got their house was till up the
backyard and do gardens, and they would everything that they couldn't eat in the
summer, they would can it and store it in a cold room in the
basement, and to me, that was normal. And then my parents didn't
do that, and they kind of broke the chain. And now I picture
myself going back to what my grandparents were doing and you know, being a
lot more self sustainable indeed, and I can see that more and more people
are wanting to do that. I got an email today from a young lady
who lives in the development with an hlway and they're trying to take this to
the board to get them to overturn having poultry. I mean, people,
there is, for lack of better word, there's a great awakening right now.
People are start even the normalist of normi as we would say, are
starting to understand there is something seriously wrong. I think a lot of people
for the first year of the pandemic, they just took it wholesale, and
then they continued to drag it out. In the winner of twenty twenty one,
they told us if we didn't get vaccinated, we were going to die.
And they've really showed their hands. And you can only lie so many
times. And people are waking up and I'm starting to see, you know
again, people who normally would just go about their day and come home and
have a cold beer and watch sports, or starting to be more concerned.
They want to learn how to grow gardens. I get questions all the time
about chickens, and that's great. I think it's it's it's really if if
we want to change things, we need to start our own type of society
and unplugged from that stop trading with you know, with Netflix and YouTube.
I don't. I haven't been on YouTube in over a year. It's like,
if you don't want me, I don't want you. I don't want
to have a relationship with someone who doesn't want me to be a part of
them, So I'll go on Rumble or wherever else. So let's let's kind
of get back to your flat Earth journey you had mentioned. Was there one
particular thing that you may have read or saw that completely changed your course of
view on the flat Earth? Yeah? So when I started digging. You
know, as some people give Eric Dubay a hard time, I personally don't
mind him at all. He comes off a little snarky once in a while.
I would I first would tell people to come and listen to the flat
of files because I like the way that you do this, but if you
want to check out like two hundred Proofs on whatever streaming service. I actually,
because of you, I just bought the book hundred Proofs by William Carpenter.
I was reading. Yeah, I was reading that and wow, like
seriously, everybody should have just at least check it out. And the Zetetic
Astronomy I also grab that, So that's really cool. So okay, So
one of the big things that that you know, hooked me was the North
Star. I thought, this is very very cool that the stars are all
rotating around the North Star. So what I did was I reverse engineered basically
the lies. And I don't know, I say this to as many people
as possible because I don't don't think anybody can fathom that they want us to
believe like these numbers. But like when I went to school, I thought
that the Sun just sat there. But now they want us to know that
the Sun is like a comet flying through the galaxy at four hundred and eighty
thousand miles per hour. This is insane. First of all, this is
insane. Everybody that if you can believe that, you need to snap out
of it now. The next thing was the convenient number of sixty six thousand,
six hundred miles per hour, which is the invisible carousel that we're on
flying around the sun. And then to top it off, we're also spinning
you know, a thousand miles per hour or whatever it is. And to
tell me that at night, if you you know, had a slow capture
camera with the aperture set, you know, for the whole night, let's
say, and you can see all those stars just perfectly spinning around the North
Star. But yet all these magical other things are happening in all these different
x y z axises, and you still see the same stars every night.
This is this is lunacy. And I was listening to I think it was
either episode or eleven. I think it was episode eleven you were talking with
Sean and maybe it was another one that basically they just reverse engineered the numbers
for parallels, to make it convenient that the stars are always there. They
just make it trilliant. And I'm like, yeah, that's great if you
want to get the numbers that you want, But that's not real science.
That's fake there. You're hypo you're just fixing your hypothesis, right, Yeah,
indeed, And Nicola Tesla. Nicholas Tesla tried to warn us before he
died that science was changing. It was going from actually going going out doing
actual experiments to math, you know, matth equations, and they would manipulate
the numbers to fit the answers that they wanted right right. So the next
thing was obviously water. Water is amazing, but water is not so amazing
that it can you know, curve up a ball and then down down the
other. This like, seriously, people need to realize that this lie is
so monstrous that that it like it's so easy to deceive us if if they
can just convince us of something that's you know, we talk about physics,
and I love physics. This is not physics. This is fake. This
is not real. And you know, I would love to have somebody just
prove to us that the you know, you can get this concave water happening.
I mean, you just look at the Zetetic astronomy book that I have
here, and he's got so many experiments that show that this is preposterous.
Like that's and that's what scares me is this lie is so huge that everybody's
protecting it. That's terrifying. That's really terrifying that nobody can stop and and
just go against it. It's like the fact, it's like the foundation is
built so strong on this lie, and then you have all these other lies
on top of it, like the sun, like gravity. When when I
heard that gravity is not real, my mind almost exploded, and then I
thought, I have to I have to disprove that, like at least gravity
is real. Come on, man, Like there's a gravitron installed in the
center of this crazy ball that we're on. Like I got approved that the
gravitron is there. And one of the lies that I did see long ago
about flat Earth was that you walk on this disc and as you get closer
to the edge, um, you know, you're you'd be more and more
attracted to the center. But that's just it was. It was so preposterous
because they were making a claim how flat Earth wouldn't even work with gravity because
it would just, you know, you just like squish yourself at the at
the end of the at the disc or something. So they just use lies
on top of lies, and that really bothers me too. One of my
one of my friends was asking me about the sticks and the shadows experiment,
and I think that that only works if your son is ninety three million miles
away, But if it's you know, local, then it doesn't, right
yep, or vice or vice versa a thousand percent. And the thing I
try to tell people, and again, this is something I didn't really realize
until after I really decided to go into flat Earth and try to disprove it,
which, of course we all know. All it does is prove flat
Earth when you try to disprove it. But dang it, where was I
going? Um? Oh? Burney's so like before we were flat Earth,
you know, geocentrists or biblical cosmologists like I couldn't tell you how far the
sun was away from Earth. If you would have asked George from twenty fifteen,
just if you would have walked into my store and said, hey,
how far is this? I wouldn't have said ninety three million miles, you
know, if I if I couldn't google it off the top of my head.
And it's the same with the people who won't look into it if you
ask them. If you if you were to stand in front of a Walmart
and ask a hundred people how far you know you're not going to get many
people who get it right, they're not going to know the axis and all.
But if you ask them as the Earth flat, they're going to look
at you like you like your mental But the reason for that is, and
I've done a lot of looking into TV, specifically in the fifties onward.
Every I'm telling you, I'm telling you, every single movie, every single
TV show from about fifty five or fifty six on has a globe in every
single movie, sometimes multiple And it's just it's subliminal programming. Is a thousand
percent of what it is. You've been brainwashed for your entire life to think
that, I mean, that's unquestionable, like and it is. It's really
Yeah, it's really troubling to me. So before I even became a geocentrist
flat Earth, I discovered that the Mercader map is not accurate. And this
really bothered me because I believe it was the Catholic Church or something along those
lines somewhere in Europe they commissioned this MerCad map. So it showed the more
of the northern hemisphere being predominant, like Greenland being almost the size of South
America. And apparently you know that's not correct, right, like the gall
Peters map is you know, supposed to be a better representation. But obviously
on the flat Earth map, you know, Africa does look you know,
more more squished. And you know, to me, that was a big
m To me, that's a red flag. Is when you're commissioning maps and
they're purposely wrong, that to me, that's not right either. Right,
you're misleading people one hundred percent. And again it should be noted that,
like you said, this map, the Marcater projection map, this came out
in the sixteenth century, the same time in Copernicus and all the other folks
were really pushing this thing where you know, the Antarctic or Arctic excuse me,
is on top of the ball and Antarctica is on the bottom of the
ball. And again there's a lot of misrepresentation by this map. Great.
Um, yeah. I I also was going to say that it's just really
really important for us to break this stigma. It's really unfortunate. I mean,
it's it's on purpose, right, like you hear Obama talking about flat
earthers and the Flat Earth Society. But I do want to give a huge
shout out to my boy Justin Trudeau for you know, hyping up flat Earth
and how fake it is, because we know that everything out of that guy's
mouth is a lie. And if he's telling us in twenty twenty three,
if he's got to sell the globe to everybody in twenty twenty three, you
know something's up. So I want to give him a huge shout out because
if that didn't wake up a bunch of people, I don't know what will,
because I mean, these guys, everything out of their faces is a
lie, and it's it's beyond embarrassing, especially since I'm almost the same age
as as this guy, I mean Biden. I mean he's like weekend at
Bernie's. He's got an excuse, right, but I mean justin Trudeau should
have a few marbles left in his head. Yeah, that's interesting. Somebody
from Canada just two or three days ago, like he cited you know,
if he said this, then I think flat Earth has gotta be true.
That's kind of how he closed the email, and I just laughed. I
actually made a little video and rumble about that when it came out, and
it's gone over pretty well. Something interesting. When you I'm sorry, go
ahead. I was gonna say for anybody who hasn't seen it. Pierre Trudeau's
eulogy when Justin Trudeau. You can go on YouTube to watch it. So
Justin Trudeau actually goes into this story. It might be edited or not,
but he actually you know, i'll give you the Coles Notes version. I
don't know if you've seen this, George, but he talks about taking this
trip to the North Pole with his dad and something happened there and he had
a moment where he realized, my dad is a very very powerful man for
what he saw there, and that was kind of the only hint. But
I tell you what, that makes me really want to go check out the
North Pole and what's happening there, because if he's going to drop breadcrumbs like
that, that's pretty interesting. Anyway. Check that out for everybody listening.
Yeah, I don't know if it mentions flat Earth, but I did find
out Trudeau offers emotional tribute to former prime minister. So this would have been
just a couple of years ago. Huh, Yeah, I guess so whenever
his dad died, the original communist lover. Yeah, a lot of people
don't realize that his father was the prime minister back and that was it.
The seventies and eighties. Yeah, in the seventies. There's a book on
I can't remember what the author's name is. It's called Red Handed. He
goes into discussing like Pierre Trudeau's a smart guy, like Justin Trureau was not.
But Pierre Trudeau was a very smart man, and he saw the potential
in China and teaming up with them, and he started, he started something.
And now his you know, Trudeau Junior is you know, carrying the
torch for China, and they're doing all sorts of crazy stuff here. Yet
to the point that there was a lot of reports last year there was actual
Chinese troops training in Canada. And I do know for a fact that they
their military college War College, did host some Chinese generals there last year,
okay. And I know that we do have Chinese police stations here as well,
so that they can keep tabs on on their people, which is to
me, that's just insane. I mean, I didn't want to believe that,
but you know, who knows what you know? You might as well
take it for what it's worth and try and prove it wrong. Now,
because that's the kind of world we live in where you and I have to
be the scientists, and we have to dig if we want to get to
the truth, because we can't trust these people anymore in the in their you
know, fancy lab coats in their ivory towers. That's right. Something that
really resonated with me. In your email when you first reached out to me,
you talked about having your revolver with the six silver bullets to either prove
flat Earth or wake someone up. Number three is the one I'd like to
start with, okay, and it's a big one too. And I encourage
everybody to pause this podcast here in a second and look for yourself. Don't
take my word for it, don't take Alex's word for it. Look for
yourself. You can do Australia to Santiago, Chile, or you can even
do Sydney to um johannes in South Africa. Okay, what you're going to
see is for me, like when I did Sydney to Johannesburg, they always
stop in Abu Dhabi. From Sydney to Abu Dhabi, Abidhabi to Johannesburg or
vice versa. I forget which way it was. If you look at it
on a globe map, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It goes due
northeast and then due southwest, and when you're accompanying making money and fuel costs
as much as it does, you're going to take a direct route and that
makes no sense what's soever at all. But when you look at it on
a flat earth map, it makes complete sense. Go ahead, Yeah,
for sure. I think I haven't read the book yet, but it's on
my list, is the Sixteen Emergency Landings. I think that's very, very
important for all of us to read, because once I started, this was
a huge Eric dubet a thing for me. I'm like, screw this guy.
I'm going to prove him wrong. I'm going to book a flight from
Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. And wouldn't you know it, it's
there's no direct flights and on a flat earth map you're going from Santiago to
lax and then you're going to Japan and then you're going to Australia. There
are some exceptions though, and I have I have to confirm it. It
would be great if we could get actual flight logs. I have seen where
they you know, will fake um, you know this is hearsay, but
they'll they'll say that you can do a direct flight from Santiago to Sydney,
but they'll end up canceling those flights. I've heard that. Yeah, So
I can't confirm that, but it would be amazing if we could get some
people, some pilots out there, you know, anybody that could get flight
logs and you know, just confirm that, like you know, call us
out. Then at least at least let us know what's possible, right,
because you're not going to circumnavigate on the bottom of the globe, which would
be the easiest. You just pop up on the other side, like show
us right, absolutely, And then your number two was talking about disproving gravity.
Yeah, to me, this was um wow, Like I said,
it blew my mind when I mean, it just makes it makes total sense
density and buoyancy if there's you know, gravity. To me, when I
was taking physics, it was a convenient number for us to just calculate weight.
It's nine point eight one per second square. It's an acceleration of you
know, you can get your terminal velocity whatever. But still, I mean,
for you know, like you have this gigantic ship in the in the
water and you have a pebble, and like so density and boy and see
or buoyancy is more powerful than gravity, right, Like you can have a
pebble that will sink to the bottom of the ocean, but you the Titanic
will, well, it'll eventually sink if it hits an iceberg, but it'll
you know, it'll float for the time being. Right. That's a cool
conspiracy too, by the way, getting rid of the bankers, the bankers
the other way, So that's super cool. So you know, we'll eventually
we'll just cross link to all all the episodes. But um, to me,
that was the most mind blowing just walking just walking around and realizing like
that this lie is so crazy. But is it a lot? It's not
a lot. It's a theory, right, just like the theory of relativity.
And when I was talking to some people online about you know, you
know, going to the South Pole, Let's let's fly down in the South
Pole. We'll walk around upside down, you know, on the bottom of
this ball. Like how it's so simple. A child would think of it
that way, right, But that's exactly what it would be, yea.
And these people all they can say is, well, it's relative to your
position. If you're on the bottom of the ball and you're looking up,
you're it up is up to you. I'm like, no, like you're
over complicating it. It's it's honestly that simple. You cannot stand on the
bottom of a ball and pretend that gravity is so strong underneath that it's going
to suck you up. You know, whereas if we were at the north
pole, it would be easier for gravity to do its work. Right,
Yep, it holds us down, But a little butterfly can fly around with
no problem whatsoever. Right, And then when I talk about the speed of
the Earth spinning, you know at the at the equator when we talk about
gravity, so technically at the equator, it's spinning the fact that fastest,
and we should wait less because we're actually like getting whipped off of the Earth
more right, Like we're actually talking about physics and real horses. You know,
if I'm if I'm in Canada and I fly to wherever Brazil, somewhere
somewhere in the equator, I should weigh less. That's because of you know
how fast here that is not going to happen. We know that that's not
going to happen, and uh, I mean, we could just go on
and on like it's it's almost so simple. And it was right there,
and you think, why didn't I think of that before? Right? But
once, like I was like going back to earlier in the show. People
don't know these numbers. They don't understand these numbers that a bullet is flying
eighteen hundred miles per hour and you're you know, we're rotating here one revolution
per twenty four hours, but that computes too, you know six, you
know, one thousand miles per hour, fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred kilometers an
hour, like we're speeding, We're flying, like spinning at the speed of
almost a bullet. It's crazy. And then you have people who try to
argue the Coriolis effect, Well, it works for bullets, but it doesn't
work for planes. It's either got to be one or the other. And
it was great. I had a bunch of guys reach out to me who
are in the military and they verified, you know, it's just it's more
the spin of the round that comes out of the barrel, which causes it
to maybe go left or right depending on the particular boring of the particular barrel.
You know, they were flying well before GPS was ever around, and
the only thing they would make a difference for is wind speed. Right,
That's the only thing that they would make an adjustment for. Right. So
Okay, before I forget, there is one more thing I want to talk
to you, Yes, sure, and or there's actually lots I want to
talk to you about. But this, to me, it's like, Okay,
let's say we can't let's say the let's say the Earth is a globe,
but they lied, like they use their old old ways of figuring things
out. But let's say that the globe is actually like twenty times larger and
that's why all these calculations are not working. Right. But now they're so
far into these inconvenient lies that they can't backpedal. And that's same and I
think that goes with the moon too. They created such a huge lie that
it's this gigantic catastrophe now that they just you know, that to me is
one of the biggest like disgusting inconveniences to actual science and actual reality is these
make believe lies that they made in the past, and now we all have
to suffer because they just want to save face. And with anything else.
Once you lie, you have to continue to lie to cover your previous lies.
And that original lie from July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine has cost US
hundreds of billions of dollars. Yeah. So I was studying a lot of
Exodus during the pandemic. I was trying to figure out human nature. And
as I was studying Exodus started to dig more into the ten commands. I
mean, I knew them, but you know, I didn't realize how important
they are. And thou shalt not bear false witness, which is, you
know, basically you know, don't lie or you know in the these guys
like I've heard you've talked about, Um, was it is it? Bart
Bart Strible? Oh? Bart Sabrell, Yeah, Art Sabrell. When he
asked those astronauts to put their hands on the Bible and break that commandment?
Um, they you could see how serious lying is, and especially on the
Bible. They knew that they would be doomed to hell. As it is,
they're living at hell with this lie. It like, provided they're not
complete psychopaths, they know, like they'll drink themselves to death or or what
have you. But when you put your hand on that Bible. People that
know how powerful that is. They know, like, just because you don't
believe in something doesn't make it real either, and that law, that commandment
is for real. So um, yeah, that that's my that's my take
on that. That's how important telling the truth is. And once you take
a bite at that poison apple and you just start lying and you're going down
that path. Um, you're you're you're hurting all of us. You're you're
hurting eight billion people right now, whether directly or indirectly, whether they know
or they don't know, we're all not realizing that God created us and that
we're here for a reason and we're here to discover our gifts and share them
with each other. And you know, um, on earth as it is
in heaven, to do you know, to do the God, to do
God's work before we go back. It's so it's so important. It's yeah,
yeah, that's a great point. You know, I've never really studied
much into Michael Collins. I probably need to take some time and do more
research into him, but I will tell you that Neil Armstrong lived his last
thirty years or whatever. I think he died in the late nineties early two
thousands. I mean, he drank himself to death. He was a miserable,
miserable human being. He rarely made any appearances, probably in fear.
Every time he was asked a question, he knew he had to lie.
And obviously, like you said, these people understood. I try to be
you know, when I think about this, I hope that maybe they were
bamboozled into it at the last minute, kind of like Capricorn one. You
know, these guys got in thinking it was legit, and they got whisked
away. And listen, if you're told, if you say anything, we're
going to kill your entire family. And again, I'm just I don't know,
nobody knows. It's it's really nice of you to say that. But
that being said, we also have the that footage of them, you know,
with the window and they're flying and they're trying to get the right shot.
Right. Yeah, they're they're doing the Hollywood trickery. Ye, so
you know they know what they're doing, right, Yeah, that's that's that,
that's true. I just I know you're trying to give them the benefit
of doubt, and it is upsetting, and it's it's it's very upsetting.
But could could But could you imagine, Alex, they'll weight having that way.
Could you imagine trying to sleep at night knowing that there's little children around
the world that want to be like you, and you are the biggest fraud
in the history of mankind. I would probably throw up every time I saw
some type of a space thing or space shuttle, Like space Shuttle is another
one of those like ridiculous things. It's it's this giant, you know,
jumbo jet that they say can fly, you know, twenty thousand miles per
hour. It's insane. It is like that thing would crumble. So what
is it? The XR seventy one Blackbird can fly two thousand and that thing
is built for speed. Yep, that thing that's an incredible piece of technology,
built like not you know, thirty forty years ago. And yeah,
it's I think what we're doing here is you know, really important to not
make fun of people, but to just point out these things, even if
we have to repeat ourselves, Like I always say, I want to come
in with like some new angles and some silver bullets. But there's a lot
that you know, it bears repeating, even if it's for somebody who's hurted
for the first time. If somebody hears you and me talking for the first
time about this and we inspire them to go and just start digging. And
you know, I have so many of us have imposter syndrome, right Like,
if I'm going to start reading and digging, who am I to disprove
Isaac Newton who came up with gravity in sixteen sixty six, conveniently right and
right? And who am who am I to question all these people? And
you know, the thing that I've come to realize is where none of those
people are any better than us. Honestly, all these politicians, all these
faucies and stuff, these are just people getting paid. These are actors.
We're all here on earth playing a role, and nobody is better than the
other. It's just a matter of how much you dig. I mean,
the things that you've come up with in your episodes have blown me away,
and people call it's so insulting to call you a conspiracy theorist when you when
you can see in each episode how much time and research you take to connect
the dots that nobody else will, that CNN will just tell you some crap,
and somebody has the nerve to tell you that you're a conspiracy theorist.
To me, that like that actually boils my blood when I when I hear
things like that when we're when we're just regular guys and we're doing the job
that the people that we trust are supposed to be doing. Yeah, it's
interesting. Um. You know, growing up Mike and father, he was
very skeptical of the government. And you know, back in the day,
there was actually a time when when they were actual journalists out there. I
was taught as a young man that journalists were the unofficial, you know,
fourth arm of the government. It was their job to keep the other three
in check. In this day and age, nothing is is further from the
truth. They are just an arm of the illuminati, the you know,
the puppeteers. And there was that documentary a few years ago that everybody watched
during COVID where all the news they took all these you know, news clips
from around the country and they were all saying the same thing. So that
really solidified Operation mocking Bird for me. If we can, if you still
want to stay down this trail, but before we get off, I definitely
want I ask all our folks and if you wanted to talk about COVID a
little bit, because we get so many people who say that, you know,
they really overplayed their hand and that was a large part of their awakening
experience. I know we touched on her briefly, but I don't know if
there was anything else you wanted to expand on. Oh yeah we can,
we can come back to flat Earth. We can talk about COVID right now.
I think that COVID is a is a huge, a huge eye opener
for anybody. My wife and I were proudly part of the Freedom Convoy where
the truckers went to Ottawa. So my daughter, she sipped, skipped school.
We had the signs, we were honking, and then we got in
the car and we actually joined the convoy for about three or four hours.
If I could have, I would have driven straight to Ottawa and been part
of that. I did talk to a few people who were a part of
that, and it's just that was important. That was a really important thing
for Canada, especially being so marginalized, and these people like had friends.
I had friends even saying nobody's making you take the vaccine, and I said,
yeah, that's true. I am self employed. My wife and I
we work together. But I can't go to McDonald's and that's crazy, Like
I can't go to any restaurants. I don't know how bad it was in
America, but the only place I could go was the grocery store and that
was it. And that was for months, I would say, probably four
or five months. And my wife and I we're maybe the one percent that
didn't wear masks after a while. I wear masks at the beginning, just
because of virtue signaling, just to show you know, I'm a I'm a
good Canadian. I'm a you know, Canadians. We have a reputation for
all sticking together. But I think it's to our It's actually to our detriment
because they knew, they know our culture, the you know, the people
at the top. They know we're going to look after each other, and
anybody that gets out of line, you know, hates their neighbor and things
like that, and they can very easily manipulate our population in America. I
like to think, you know, I was very disappointed in what I saw.
I thought there are a lot more freedom freedom fighters in America. You
know, don't tell me what to do, uh, you know, I'll
do I'll do what I want. Obviously at the beginning, it's great to
be cautious, but you know, two weeks to flatten the curve. About
a week into two weeks to flatten the curve. I just looked around him,
like, this is the stupidest thing ever. This is not science.
This is this is preposterous, right, like it's it's it's insanity to think
that you're actually going to stop this airborne virus and then being an electrician working
with asbestos and actually having proper respirators that were sealed, you know, having
to be clean shaven, and then knowing the micro on like particle size,
and then when you hear about actual science of you know what a you know,
a COVID particle is or you know, like a disease particle, and
these masks, you're they don't do anything. And it even says on the
ball box and people are getting mad at me for like pointing at the box
and warning them like you are. This is the false sense of security.
You're going to a hockey game wearing a mask and you're you're thinking you're safe
and then everybody's got COVID. Like, I'm sorry, I wish I could
help you you know, I wish I could help you if they were only
seated six feet away from each other. Oh exactly. Just to watch the
people on the news, that was ridiculous watching them, you know, watching
like a Jack and Charles Barkley and those guys sitting Can you like, seriously,
can you believe this? Like going to the grocery store and having the
poor person behind this like plastic cage, Like it's unbelievable. It's just unbelievable.
Restaurants too, Like it's I mean, how many ridiculous things can we
say that people did? And you know, is it? Are we laughing
about are we crying about it? It's it's unbelievable what they got people to
do. And I'm guilty too. I did. I did some of the
things before. I was just like enough, Like it's two years and we're
at three years, and I cannot fly into America. America, I think,
is the only country that I cannot fly into you because you still have
to be vaccinated to the fly in America. That change is in ten days,
sir. They just announced it today. Starting May eleventh, unvaccinated people
can fly into the United States. Three years and two months later, Man
well, I'll be coming in see you awesome. I miss I miss America.
There's two things that I wanted to mention, to hit on what you
just spoke about. Number one is the fear that they instilled on people.
I mean, here we are, like you said, thirty, we're what
three years and change since it took off. And yesterday I was at the
commissary on Dover Air Force Base doing my grocery shopping, and there's still a
lot of people walking around in masks. M I ran into. I was
talking to our local pastors. We're in a very small town. We have
two churches in the entire town, and he was telling us that there are
still elderly people who refuse to come to church in person because they're still scared
of COVID, which really that that when I hear stuff like that, that
really saddens me. Sure, and you know what, I can play both
sides of the coin. One of one of our friends, she got very
very ill in Chicago and she had to go she had to be hospitalized,
and they put her in a room all by herself to die. She said
that she got basically zero care. I think she refused M de Zevie,
thank god, because thank God, probably would be dead. Right, That's
like that's the thing that kills you, even though that's the only thing that's
approved, And like how how insane do things have to get? So she
literally prayed and you know he Matt somehow healed herself with you know, using
the forces of you know, the universal forces and whatever whatever you can,
UM, and she managed to get home. But that that to me scared
me, UM, because I know our medical system is not great here in
Canada, and if you get into that hospital, you are in in very
big trouble. So that I was, I was scared. There was and
I could see through the lens of an elderly person or somebody that was um,
you know, compromise with their immune system. And I had a lot
of compassion for them, and I did not judge them for wearing masks or
or doing whatever they had to do. It's you know, you know what
when you are blinded by fear, um, yeah, you will do You'll
do anything to try and survive, right absolutely. And the other thing for
all the listeners, like here in the States, UM explained to people what
it was like, UM with the passport, you know, the I guess,
for lack of a better term, where they called COVID passports um and
you not being allowed to go to a restaurant. And even here they treated
people like my wife who wouldn't get the JAB at the you know, she
was a nurse at the hospital, that they treated you like a third world
citizen. And I'm not you know what I'm trying to say, you know,
it's just what was it like for you? Man? Without getting emotional,
it was it was really really hard to have my dad called me and
after he had just finished watching the news and yelled at me for putting him
in danger, even though he lives in another city. Like that's something I'll
just never forget, you know, that fear being you know, dumped upon
these people, and then you know, are are you n team? You
know, three jazz, two jabs, one jab, no jab. It
was unreal. And then these vacs so we got QR codes here, like
if you got the JAB, then you could go to hockey games, you
could like start to get back to normal life, right. And I was
openly saying that even if I got the job, I would never subscribe to
a two tier society like what they're what they're trying to push here. It
was so orwellian, it was unbelievable. And then to top to top that
off, we had an Arrive can app. I don't know if you've heard
of that, but anybody flying into Canada would have to download an app on
their phone Quarte yeah, and enter their information. And I'm just like,
why are people obeying this? Like, you do not have a government issued
cell phone. You do not have to download their app. You do not
have like if okay, if we were all in China and we had government
issued cell phones that came preloaded with all these apps and we had to take
them everywhere. Fine, but guess what this is in China. This is
Canada. You don't have to do. You could throw your cell phone on
the floor, stomp on it, and walk through those gates and you should
be fine. Like you, it's very presumptuous that we all have smartphones and
we all have to download this crazy app. Like if that's not a red
flag to get rid of your cell phone. I mean, I know I'm
addicted to it, but that I mean, that's a scary thing, right,
absolutely, And people should be very cautious of all the wearable technology out
there as well. That's another tracking technique they use, oh for sure.
And I was joking with our friends during the pandemic. I said, just
leave your phone at home if you want to come and visit us. I
said, the government's tracking you. I said, I don't know if you
guys have tim Horton's where you are. It's a coffee shop, but tim
Horton's pings your phone about four hundred times a day to track your location so
that they can send you coupons when they actually just gotta they just had they
just had to do a big lawsuit thing. We're invading people's privacy. But
the government also just admitted that they were tracking people on their cell phones and
and seeing like if they were obeying quarantine rules. So you know, it's
a tracking advice, right, Like this thing is sitting on my desk.
They're they're already listening to us, right They're they're gonna do whatever they want
to do, and that's fine. I'm not going to censor myself, and
you know, I would prefer them not listening to my conversations, even though
I don't have anything to hide. I think that what is it the it's
the Patriot Act, Right, the Patriot Act is the biggest disaster in American
one of the biggest disasters in American history. That you guys need to like,
you need a militia right now just to get rid of that. Yeah,
that is the biggest infringement on our rights. But again, when when
they perpetrate these things and they induce fear on the American people like they did
September eleventh, Um, I mean, everybody who was alive at that time,
you know, seven eight years or older, remember exactly watching that and
the fear based mind trauma that was brought on the people, and the first
thing, whatever it takes to protect us, right, And it was the
same if you think about it, if you go back to even before March
of twenty twenty, they were doing subtle things. I remember right around the
Super Bowl they were sending you would see videos of people in China just collapsing
on the ground. And then of course they're bringing in these big ships that
were going to be floating hospitals, which of course were never used. But
it was a big Hollywood production and it was twofold. Number one. It
was to take more of our rights. Actually could say it's threefold more of
our rights. It was to transfer power and eliminate the middleman. Of course,
COVID didn't hit Walmart or Amazon, but all the mom and pop stores
had to shut down. And then of course what did they do best and
what is most important to them is to keep us fighting amongst each other,
so it takes the focus off of them. You know that famous clip with
Kevin what's his name? From A Bug's Life? I played that a lot.
It really resonates with me, you know, UM, and it takes
the focus off them. So it was really a three pronged sword that is
really devastating, and um, look where we are today. It's it's tough.
Yeah. I think one of the things that really came through UM in
my in my meditations this week was kindness and really, like I'll say it
again, like the way you do this show, it really helps people,
um, you know who who are inquisitive, who are curious. It gives
them a nice place to actually hear all these different stories and opinions and and
realize that we're not the bad guys. We want, you know, our
communities to be you know, together, we we want UM as few divisions
as possible. I'm not talking about like the Tower of Babylon where we all
get together. That to me, that's the one world government, right,
Like, that's that's their all crazy, you know, you know, for
us to all be different, us have all our different cultures but still come
together and still be that ninety nine percent of awesome, which I know that
we are. But we're just so like their plan is so obvious now,
they will do anything. That's why they call it flat Earthers. That's why
the non vaxers like they will do anything they can to to split us up
and all all in the end game, we're we're all just a bunch of
souls and we're all just going to go back where where we came from.
And if I can help wake up even just a few people, because it's
so it's so important to look through the lens that you know, the people
out there at the grocery store, they're not your enemies. There there's people
like like like you and me, Like they just want to have a good
life, you know, life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness. That's
that's really what it is. Indeed, I think we can make our way
back to flat Earth. I appreciate your thoughts on that. It's funny you
mentioned earlier about Eddie Bravo. David Weiss actually put out a new video today.
Well, it's not new, it was when in twenty nineteen when he
was on Info Wars, it was uh, Sam Tripoli, Um, Alex
Jones, Eddie Bravo, and um, David Weiss, and you know,
the whole time Alex Jones. I mean, Dave was really doing a good
job trying to get his point across, and Alex was really being in a
clown the entire time. Um. And I've said, I just did a
podcast a month ago, and I don't ever there's people out there who go
after truths all the time. In my three years, I've only made a
podcast about one and it's Alex Jones. And you have to understand, Alex
Jones is going to give you the truth to a certain extent. He's not
going to give you the whole truth. And I just thought it was really
unusual and showed his wings the ultimate truth how he made it just ridiculous.
The entire time. Dave was doing a tremendous job trying to present even Eddie
was going after Alex telling him to shut up and to be quiet, but
especially at the end when he was trying to, you know, give his
final words, it was really ridiculous. And I think it says a lot
about him being controlled. Yeah, and that's something that I worry about.
How much would it take to switch Eric Dubey and make him control off position,
or how how much would it take to make you, know, to
make you switch and become sure controlled opposition. I mean we could, like
even me, like, we probably all have a price. Like if they
deposited one hundred million in my bank account, I mean I'd probably shut up
too, But I mean, at least if we had this on the record,
then I could go live in Mexico and still have a ton of guilt.
But you know, I'm I'm joking, but I mean they can do
whatever they want, right, Money's not even real, like and we all
the road to hell is paid with good intentions, and we all. I
know my path, and I know that I'm not on the wrong path.
My path keeps leading me towards God. So that's how I that's my compass,
that's how I know that I am on the right track. Eddie Bravo
is an interesting character. He can do all sorts of amazing things. He's
a rock star, he's a comedian, he's a jiu jitsu guy. He
loves to talk about flat Earth, and I wonder if he's controlled opposition too.
I mean, he's super famous, he's got a big, big platform,
and I just don't understand what Alex Jones gets from from hype up flat
Earth or destroying flat Earth. It's to me, it's the why, right,
Why why don't they take it seriously? I think David Weiss is very
smart and he presents everything really well, and I think it's detrimental when you
go on a show like that where you know people are you know, don't
take you serious or they don't want to listen to you. And yeah,
it's it's a shame because there's a lot of really good points and it's like
everybody just needs that one silver bullet to make them to spark their curiosity to
just start digging. I mean, I would say ninety percent of people are
probably too lazy. Like the only reason I started digging was because you know
that was I was just all of a sudden passionate about just trying to disprove
Eddie Bravo with physics and math that I, you know, wanted to exercise
and next thing, you know, I couldn't do it. And I'm listening
to Eric Dubay, I'm listening to your podcast. I'm listening to David Weiss
and and all you guys are making really good points and why you know,
we might not be right about everything, and that's fine, but that's what
I love about. You know, anybody that's not control opposition is not scared
to say I don't know if I don't know something, if I don't know
every single thing about the moon. The moon is magical. We haven't even
talked about the moon. To me, I think the moon is is even
more important than than flat Earth. It's like, this thing is incredible.
I I got laughed out of a room because I was saying that the moon
has its own lights. But I mean, we know, we know,
like we're we know what we're taught. We're taught that it's reflecting the Sun's
light, right, But that's ridiculous. And think about how magical the moon
is. And if we if we had this lunar calendar that you and me
had discussed in the email together, and you know, each phase of the
moon shows us, you know, the month. The moon tells us the
month, the sun tells us the time of the day. The constellations and
the stars. They're for guidance and for seasons and to let us know,
like the sky is to basically our clock, right, And if we didn't
have these devices on our hands, and you know, we just used nature,
We used our senses to know one to wake up and when to go
to bed, Like how in tune? Like how different would we be as
a species and how would we live our lives differently if we didn't have watches
and we you know, like it would make sense, like the women's cycles
with the moon, and like there's a lot of incredible things out there and
they're being thrown in the garbage because we put a bunch of astronauts on there
and now we have to live this gigantic lie. To me, that's an
atrocity. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I think that they do
a lot of these things intentionally, like going from a thirteen months twenty eight
day calendar, which our systems are you know, used to, to all
these random twelve months one has thirty one days, one has twenty eight days,
someone has thirty days. I think it is to keep us out of
sync with nature. And uh, you know, animals they know they're up
in the my chickens as soon as the sun cracks the sky, they're they're
they're bouncing around ready to go. And back in the day before they had
alarm clocks, um, people would wake up. They I don't know how
they did it, if they had firewatch or something, but I mean people
knew it was time to get up and they started their day first thing in
the morning. They didn't always have alarm clocks, you know, through time.
So that's that's a tremendous point for sure, and I love you know,
I'll hype it here right now for David West is app that flat Earth
map to me, it's so interesting watching um the sun and where it is
and high noon is you know hot high noon the sun is at the highest
point of the during the day depending on the season, and then you have
the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn in it, and it does the like the
infinity sign the figure eight between the seasons, and I just thought, man,
that is so amazing and I'm like, I can't believe they don't teach
us in school in physics class in grade eleven, and I remember this like
it was yesterday, and it was probably twenty five years ago, which is
kind of embarrassing. But I was asking my teacher how it could be possible
that the sun is further from us in the summer and closer during the winter,
and all he had for me was that the axis, and like,
that's that's insane, Like we're literally closer. And then I was listening to
one of your other episodes, and I lived near the mountains, and I'm
telling you, with the elevation, if I'm in the mountains, I'm getting
cooked by that sun. And I'm just, you know, a thousand feet
higher than sea level, right, so we're we're at four thousand feet,
and if I can get up to eight thousand feet, I'm telling you where
you can feel how much stronger the sun is. Thank you for saying that
exactly, because I made that point, like I think that within the first
ten or twelve episodes of the podcast, where I had said when I was
stationed at four Carson in Colorado, I remember we had a neighborhood picnic and
it was like May mid May, maybe and it wasn't a particularly warm day,
maybe seventy eight or eighty degrees, and I got cooked. I was
out there in in just a T shirt, and I was out there for
two or three hours, and I got cooked. And then when you think
in retrospect, we'll wait a second. If the sun is truly ninety three
million miles away, would a couple of thousand feet really make a difference.
These are the things that you did. That calculation to ninety three million miles?
How many how many feet is that right? How many bazillions? It's
it's people, we're begging you to please wake up, please, like these
numbers are ludicrous. The sun So another another big wake up moment for me
with Eric Dubay is the sun and the moon, the ying and the yang,
they're pretty much the same size in the sky. That's like, what
what kind of a coincidence is that? Right? Like, that's impossible that
the moon and the like, it's all there in Genesis. You open it
up, page one. God created the sun's rule the day and the moon's
rule the night, and it's right there. And anybody that tells you that
it's a myth believes that everything came from nothing, the Big Bang, Like
that is the most ridiculous, Like, seriously, snap out of it.
This is the biggest myth ever, the Big Bang, that everything came from
nothing is so crazy if you just stop and think about it for a minute,
Like God created everything, and it doesn't matter what professor out there says
that it's wrong. They'll they'll meet their maker in the end, indeed,
and I feel bad for them. Yeah, And that's again one of the
reasons why we homeschool, because they do push this stuff. And now school
has become just a breeding ground for for these progressives and it's not what it
used to be. They don't really teach critical thinking, and that is very
very important to me. And like you said, Genesis one, chapter six
or sorry, chapter one, verse sixteen says, and God made two great
lights. Okay, he didn't say he made one powerful, all powerful light
that was so bright that it shone a reflection upon the moon. It's very
very distinct to say that it is its own light. And it was so
and a story. God made two great lights, wonderful the day one rule
the night again the lesser because obviously the sun is more powerful than the moon,
and it has its cycle, and it's just like you said, it
is one of the most intriguing and most you know, glorious things that God
made for us. For sure. It's a really interesting breadcrumb something that just
and it's so little, but it really excited me. Was I just looked
up the definition of luminary and you go in there and it says a celestial
body like the sun and the moon. So even under the definition of luminary,
they will tell you right there that the moon has its own light.
And I thought that was such a neat little breadcrumb that you know, they're
they're totally going against what they say right where where it's this magic rock reflecting
sunlight? Like that's come on, guys, you know what's funny, Alex.
I did the same thing. In the Oxford Dictionary. It says number
one is a noun which is a person who inspires. Okay, right,
iluma. But number two, like you said, it says a natural live
I'm sorry, a natural light giving body, especially the sun or moon.
But it has the little warning above it it says archaic. Oh geez,
there there's the controllers right there. You just need an older dictionary then,
yep. Just like you know, on Wikipedia, if you look up flat
Earth, it's got or on any of Dave's videos, it's got the big
Wikipedia warning on it. It's archaic, right right. You know, I
know that we're not on the Fact hundred podcast right now, but if we
could get into not today, but if if we ever did chat again,
it would be so cool to talk about ancient architecture and how they harnessed energy,
yes, and free energy, right, like Nicola Tesla is talking about
that, the cathedral things, the things that they've covered up in history really
intrigued me because I don't feel anymore like we are we are getting ahead.
We're it's almost like we're going backwards with architecture and it's uh yeah, it's
it's almost like destimulating the way they're building our cities. Yeah, you know,
we could talk about things like Actually, something that day brought up today
that reminded me was the uh I think it's called the angkor Wat, which
is down in Cambodia, not down in Comota, over in Cambodia. Um.
It's one of the biggest structures in the world and it was built in
the I think the twelfth century. And again there's no way we could build
anything like this today, right, or the or I mean just the Pyramids
alone, how incredible. It's. Uh, you know, that's on my
bucket list of things of things to see it in my lifetime is to go
and see the Pyramids. I mean, that's it's incredible. Yeah. I
was lucky to see the zigger out of her when I was in Iraq,
and I was very the first morning we woke up in Iraq, we were
pretty close to where the Tigris and Euphrates met, and you know, I
was all over Iraq and a lot of it's it's funny we called it this,
but we called it moon dust because there's certain parts of Iraq that the
dust was like baby powder and it was awful. You could never stay clean.
Every step you took it was just powder. Literally walking in six inches
of baby powder. It was like, um. But yeah, it's there's
a that was definitely a special feeling when you're around um, certain places like
that, and I'm sure you would have that same feeling around the Pyramids for
sure. And there's like where we live. I believe, like Lake Louise
is a is a huge energetic vortex. I don't know how into those kinds
of things you are, Like, I know, in uh Siona, I
believe it's Sidona has some type of energetic vortex there. There's a lot of
I mean, there's a lot of tourism there. We were we were just
there probably last month and it was overwhelming. But it's it's a neat area
to be in energetically. And there's these different places in the world. I
mean telling you, there's so many. It's great that we're having this great
awakening because it's forcing a lot of people to reconnect. I actually believe that
our children are way more spiritually connected than we are. Even I feel like
we're almost like having to d program and then get more in touch with our
our spirituality after you know how many years of uh you know, propaganda on
the TV and and those things. But yeah, my daughters they're very in
tune with with the world and they can they can feel things very differently than
us. And um, I mean that's an interesting subject too. Were you
talking about the Sedona healing vortex in Arizona? That's correct? Yeah, Oh
you're you're in Arizona just a recently. Yeah, we drove Yeah, we
uh we got in the car and we drove twenty three hours to be to
go see. Uh. It was a great drive. You know, when
you're locked in your house for two years, you don't mind a nice We
love traveling too well. We don't like flying too much. Back in the
day used to be a lot of fun. It was special to fly and
they it was fun. But now it's just my goodness, just like you're
a prisoner on con air when you're gone through everything. Yeah, yeah,
exactly, did you I been in some pretty bad airports in my day.
Oh yeah, it's and the people today, it's just interesting people. Did
you feel a particular energy while you were there? No, actually I didn't
because it's very high joke, it's very peopally like in Canada. If you
came to visit us here and we went to Lake Louise, we could probably
get to a place where there would be nobody and you could actually like be
with nature and um, you know, really like sit down a minute tape
with that and try and and try and have an experience where where we are
and you know, not to Noxydona. We were where all the tourists were
and we didn't really get out onto the trails and you know, try and
have those experiences. I bet you there's some amazing things there. And I
regret not doing it. We just didn't have the time. Um, we
were just more in the town. But I think I think it would be
worth it. But I mean, I got my own vortex here, like
not even an hour away, so nice. I can always do it.
Yeah, and it's uh, it's beautiful here and where we are. What
haven't we touched on that? I'm sorry, go ahead. I was gonna
say one of my goals this summer is to climb one of the mountains and
then I'll send you a picture of as far as the eye, as far
as the eye can see. And we were we were joking about the horizon
being like a paper roll towel where it doesn't actually curve on the sides.
It just kind of it's supposed to just curve over in front of you.
I just I thought that that was hilarious. Yeah, I'll be getting back
to Colorado Springs sooner or later, and I definitely, well, we'll do
the man a two mile and take a picture. It's just amazing. I'll
make sure it's a clear day and we've gotten so many great pictures from people,
and again, you guys can jump in the chat room and see.
Eventually, I need to make an additional page on the website so I can
post them and put people's name in location where they're from, and they could
stay there because obviously the chat room people are gonna type and it's going to
disappear. But yeah, it's just that when you really stop and use your
senses, you realize that, you know, it is unball lievable. It
is just the greatest lie. And there's been some whoppers right from the moon
to Iraq. I mean, the evil. There's so much evil in this
world. But it's good that we focus on the lighter side. And I've
gotten so many emails that the flat earth, like you said, has brought
not just a god, which is obviously the most important. But even with
with family members, we hear with COVID you did, and I know I
did. It was very divisive. It was a very divisive, especially that
first year, and everybody was asking every just are you vaccinated? Like all
of a sudden, everybody's you know, medical history was public knowledge. People
would ask me, um, uh, you know, are you vaccinated?
And I would say, uh, um, what's the word. I don't
know, I'm having a brain cramp of what's the word. When you're you're
snipped, when you're you're a mail and you go get the operation, Yeah,
I said, I don't know, if you've gotten a vasectomy or something
like that, and they would look at me like yeah, and then kind
of I was joking too. I was up dating my Facebook status with I'm
going for my colonoscopy today. But you don't just our medical status now exactly
anybody. It's just it was. It was so irrational, the whole thing.
But this does this is um. Obviously, if we could reverse this
lie, I think it certainly drop a great veil upon mankind and people would
truly see the evil for what it is. But at the same time,
while we are converting people, or at least bringing them in and allowing folks
to hopefully just let their guard down for a minute to look into it,
when they do, you know, come across the flat earth that is I'm
telling you of the people are just great, tremendous people. I thought when
I got into this, I was going to get mostly trolley emails. Everybody's
been wonderful. It's a great community. We all have our you know,
varying opinions, but at the end of the day, it is just a
tremendous community with great people and a lot of faith based folks and it's just
wonderful. Yeah. I think one of the big points to you I wanted
to make is the school system, the professors, the left, which is
you know, communism. We talked about um My off air. We were
talking about grandparents and how they're from Russia and they escaped communism. But there's
nothing the communism likes more than taking you away from God. And this globe
I would say that the globe is a perfect representation of taking you away from
God. The Big Bang theory takes you away from God, takes you away
from the Creator. I'm no religious expert. I mean I love studying Exodus
and Genesis and I'm still learning. But anything that brings you closer is good,
and anything that takes you away is not good. And communism. I
always thought that communism was a conspiracy theory, that it could never ever come
to America. And what we have been seeing is unbelievable what people are doing,
and it tells and I always say that the road to Hell is paid
with good intentions, and I will keep saying that. And anybody who drinks
the Communist kool aid, if you drink the if you read the Communist manifesto,
it it's this veil and it sounds so great, and if done correctly,
you'll live in this paradise. And I'm telling you it's all garbage.
And it doesn't matter, because it doesn't matter what your opinion is. I
know that it's garbage. It's a fact. Nobody can accomplish it correctly because
of human nature. If you understand human nature, if you study human nature,
if you study Exodus, I mean, you can perform miracles over and
over again, but if the people don't have faith, they'll just keep asking
you to perform another miracle in front of them. And you know, I'm
just trying to tie all these things together. It's just so important to understand
human nature, why we do things. We're like the Trinity, right,
we're spiritual, were of mind and we're of body, and so many of
us are lacking the spirit and realizing how important that spirit is. Our mind
and our body are great there. You know, we're in this animal body
on this planet, but our soul got put here, you know, to
drive this body around and give us free will so that we can do incredible
things. And I think that I'm just so blessed that blat Earth gave me
this epiphany in September that I am actually special, like I was born for
a reason, and all the things that happened to me or for me,
you know, helped me along this journey. But all along the way,
I don't make excuses learn I learn from things, I build upon them,
I acquire more tools, I meet incredible people like you, and we keep
going forward and we just Yeah, how incredible is life that you and me
are talking on this podcast as right now. Like to me, that's one
of the best things about COVID is I met so many people just from zoom
And how how good are we at at connecting Now we don't even have to
be in the same room, but you know, we can always stay in
touch now and I know that we had that with email, but now things
are are just getting easier and easier. And I think that there's a lot
of good that came out in the last two years and I will continue to
hold that dear to me that it was that time where you know, we
had to get stronger and we survived it, and now we are better.
It's like we went through this insane workout and now we're just stronger and better
and going forward we will continue to do. You know, God's work extremely
well said. And when you were talking about that, you couldn't believe the
things that you were seeing in America as many of us couldn't. It took
me back to G. Michael Hopp in his book Those Who Remain. He
said, hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times, good
times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. So there's this
vicious cycle. If you just look over the last one hundred years, that
cycle is indeed good times. You know, you're you're just like anything else.
You know, the guy hits a lottery, he's rich, he doesn't
work anymore, he eats and drinks all day, he's three hundred pounds,
has a heart attack, he's back on hard times. It's a very vicious
cycle. And that's why important in life. You have to try to keep
everything level, never get too high, never get too low. You're gonna
have good days and bad days, and try to keep everything even keel.
And that that's kind of the mantra I've tried to live by over the last
few years. Yeah, and you build, you build. We are rebuilding
our tribe right now, whether we like it or not. It was it
was a crazy two years and it's and I think we'll rebuild our tribes bigger
and better. I honestly believe that there's there's a lot of really good people
out there. And what they wanted us to think believe was that there that
there wasn't that we were just so there's so few and far between us.
And when we went to that trucker convoy, it was incredible how so many
people in Canada came together and and did that. And I mean it scared
our Prime minister so bad you had to go hide and pretend he had COVID
any remember that in some cabin And it was probably the funniest thing I had
ever seen. By the way, kudos for you. Doudn't mean to jump
in, but kudos for you to do that, because I heard all the
stories of people whose banks were taken away and they had a gift, send
go or something and all the money was hijacked. And again, you guys,
A lot of people think you guys have the exact same freedoms we do.
Um, you don't. I don't think you even have the same freedom
of speech laws we have, which again it's on paper we do, but
they we're losing them every day. Yeah, it's really important to note that
they played their hand. When we talk about overplaying your hand, that's overplaying
your hand. If you are going to be a tyrannical government and shut down
people's bank accounts, that's I mean, you've crossed so many lines there.
I am trying to figure out how, especially with Bill C eleven, I
would love to communicate with as many people as possible about no longer paying income
tax. And I'm not even joking when I say that, I honestly don't
think that the mafia government deserves a penny of ours if they're gonna if we're
running a deficit, I mean, you guys have a deficit. I mean
we have a one trillion dollar deficit, which is unheard of, and we're
going to start giving money to Ukraine and doing all these ridiculous things. Well,
and I know we're getting off topic with flat earth, but all these
things kind of tie together there. We're living, Are we free? Are
we free? Or are we like victims of a mafia government. And I
think that we need to make some major changes because if they're just going to
print money, then they don't need my money. Now, that's the eleven
was just passed like officially a few days ago, right, yeah, just
and it I'm pretty sure most people here will think it's a conspiracy theory,
that that's not really going to happen, and it's it's terrifying, Like everybody
needs to know that they are passing these things, just like the Patriot Act.
They like Edward Snowden blew the whistle and did anything change. Like that's
the part that really bothers me. When a guy sticks his neck out like
that basically ruins his life and you know, has to has to go live
in Russia. I don't know what it's, you know what the real deal
is there, But I mean, obviously he uprooted his life to let people
know that the government is listening to them. These are these are big things,
and then when we don't re act, they realize that they can get
away with more and they can push more, and we need to not let
that happen anymore. I realized that most of us are middle class. But
you know what, if they keep squeezing us, we're not gonna be middle
class anymore. And you know the I mean the rich people, yeah,
God bless him, but I mean you still need the middle class and lower
class people to work hard and keep building, you know, the country.
You can't just like dump everybody in the trash. Indeed, it's I'm looking
at the bill and it's interesting. Pardon me. It was originally presented on
the anniversary of of JFK eleven twenty two, twenty twenty one. Lots of
numerology in this bill. It's C eleven, Yeah, eleven, twenty two,
and it is the forty fourth Parliament, so that is just eleven's all
over the place. And I don't know much about this bill, but is
this kind of does this mirror like the Smith Modernization Act that we had back
in twenty twelve where it allowed the federal government to use propaganda against its own
people. From what I understand from the bill, it can censor anything on
YouTube that it's basically China, right, It's like China's version of Google.
If they don't want you to see it, Google is not going to show
it to you. And Google's already bad, and like Duck Duck Go is
terrible already. I don't know if you've noticed these things, but I mean
I work in SEO, and when I do searches, like research on anything,
lately, you know good search engine optimization. Google's job is to get
you the most reliable, best credited source number one and I just have not
been seeing that lately. And I don't know what's going on over there,
but it leaves me scratching my head that things are aren't nefarious. And when
we start like, okay, so here's a great example, not to get
too off topic, but pornography, child pornography. How can they like let
this stuff happen and go? And then meanwhile, you know the Fact Hunter
podcast, Oh you mentioned COVID, we're going to slap a label on it
and we're gonna censor it, but you know, go for it. With
all the child pornography, it's all good. And that's to me, that
is just insane. Or mentioned Ted Kazinski in the title of your podcast and
it gets pulled complete right to it. It's it's incredible. So, um,
I had a question for you because I really wanted to know how your
Flat Earth Journey started, and I don't know if you mentioned it on any
of the previous ones, but I wanted to. I wanted to know what
you're like, aha aha moment Like for me, it was the North Star
and the stars turn it around. I just thought, how can the rest
be happening right as a you know somebody who loves physics. Well, I
had already been hipped to you awake to everything else from nine to eleven to
the Gulf of Tonkin, And I read Dave McGowan's book about the scenes from
the sixties and how every single one of these huge bands from the sixties were
all connected from the same neighborhood and all their parents were intelligence agents. From
The Grateful Dead to the Doors. Jim Morrison's dad was the admiral on the
USS Maddox, which was the boat involved in the Gulf of Tonkin which led
to fifty eight thousand young men and women getting sent to their death in Vietnam,
and six months later, you know, his son is the biggest name
in the music industry. So I had really been all the way down,
but I never i'd come across a video on YouTube. I'd go right past
it. I was like, come on. I mean, I mean there's
you know, there's conspiracy theories and then there's just crazy people. And I
wouldn't give it a second thought. But you know, shortly into my fact
tunn, I got an email three years ago or so, three or four
years ago, and it was from a guy named David Weiss. And I
opened it up and he said, Hey, my name's David Weiss. I'm
a flat earther and I'd love to come on your podcast. And I like
laughed and I deleted it. And it was something where it was eating away
at me all night, because I always tell people send me your emails,
and I literally do respond to just about everybody. I mean, if you're
just rude to me, I'm not going to respond to you. But he
was very cordial, and it was eating away at me, so I said,
I'm just gonna I went turned my computer back on. It was that
night or the next day, you know, went to the trash bin.
You know, I didn't delete the trash so I pulled it back out and
there was a link I was going to reply. I saw a link.
I said, well, let me just see what's going on. And I
think it was the conversation that he had with Crow Triple seven. I know
it's one of his most viewed videos and it was probably from twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. So I was doing something in the house,
working in the garage. I just popped my headphones on a hit play Let's
just see what's going on? And then it was we can see too far
started talking about it didn't just per miled squared. I started doing a little
bit of math and m and then the thing that really resonated with me was
again, I had no idea. If you want to ask twenty fifteen,
twenty eighteen, George, how far the sun away or I'm sorry, how
far the sun was away from us? I couldn't tell you. But when
I found out it was ninety three million. And I remember I was living
by the Dover Air Force Base. I walked outside, looked up and you
could see the rays coming through the class. I'm like, that's how could
they come out at that far of an angle if it was night or you
know. None of it made sense to me and I started to question it.
And then of course the moon is a big one too, like you
said, And the more I went down the rabbit hole. We set up
the interview. I emailed him back because I was intrigued within the first twenty
four hours of watching videos and doing a little reading. We set up an
interview two weeks later, and by that time I had done nothing for two
weeks except consuming this information, and I was like a schoolgirl when I met
him. I was so excited to talk. He was a little disappointed because
he likes turning globers and two flat earthers. But at that point I had
done all the math and research, and we lived by the beach. We
can be at the beach in thirty minutes and sure enough, you get a
strong enough piece of glass and you can pull these things back in over the
horizon and you sit down. I remember, I'd always had I've always had
sorry, I've always had a relationship with God. But then you know,
I sat back down and read Genesis again and it all clicked, it all
made sense, and then you realize, sorry, go ahead, I was
gonna say when I read a Genesis again like it was my first time in
September, and then I realized that that was the truth, that was my
epiphany, and the thing that really upset me is how far away I got
from believing that absolutely yep, yep. And I was kind of disappointed in
myself because during my time in the army, I was either deployed or you
know, I worked in twelve hour days. When I came home, I
was not very interested in my older daughter's schoolwork. My wife was kind of
she would keep an eye on that. And then you realize, my goodness,
she's already you know, she's graduated and off and she's had twelve years
of this uh indoctrination. You know, she's getting pushed the you know,
the Big Bang theory and evolution and dinosaurs and these type of things that just
don't add up. So we took it to heart. And then it was
the same time when when COVID kicked off, and it was the first day
my daughter's home, you know, on zoom and the teacher's talking and I'm
in there listening. I'm like, this is just it and it's weird,
like the David Weiss interview and COVID and everything was like all within a matter
of weeks, and I changed my life and we started homeschooling. Uh,
we started searching for lands, you know, so we could raise our own
food. It's just one of those things that again, we are here for
a reason and things happen for a reason. None of this is an accident.
And uh, you know, people always try to say Dave is a
shill this and that David Weiss changed my life. That's all I can say.
Yeah, I like to look at things as blessings, like even if
it's um, even if it's a bad thing like a COVID in a lockdown,
I tried to find the good that came from it. And I've done
that with every part of my life. It's like, what what is the
tool, you know, what? What is the strength that I'm going to
get? What is the lesson that I'm gonna get from from this? And
like I said, I'll give a huge shout out to the government for making
it so that I don't trust them anymore. I was laughing the other day
when Trudeau was saying, oh, you anti vaxers, and I'm like,
I'm not an anti vaxer. I got the H one, N one,
I got twin recks, I got all my shots. And then I'm like,
well, I'm not. I guess I'm not gonna get this one.
And I'm probably not going to get any more vaccines ever again. So oh
yeah, okay, thanks, Well, I guess you made me an anti
vax I guess I am an anti vaxer. Now it's but it's your fault.
You know, your your lies, you your inconvenient lies, and now
he's backpedaling and gaslighting people. It's like, dude, I don't think you
understand how many people you woke up because you just you just couldn't keep it
together. You know, you had to overplay your hand, and that's a
blessing. That's a huge blessing for us all. I think it would have
been different if they would have said, listen, um that the guys at
Fiser and Merk have done a tremendous job and we think this is the best
avenue. But we understand if you're hesitant. I wonder if more people would
have been like, well, they seem honest about it, right, because
they're they're saying, listen, if you want to take it, fine,
if not, we understand, but we really think this is the best avenue.
And if you have some doctors standing there and not in their head and
everything, I think more people would have done it. But when you have
something that you claim is a magical elixir but you still have to bribe people
on top of it to take it, then people obviously know that because anything
that's that good will sell itself exactly. If it works, you don't even
need marketing. It's like milk, right, yeah, it does milk even
need commercials. No, they're just going you buy milk, you go buy
eggs, like like if something works, like we were just in Phoenix and
it is incredible. The like in Canada, we don't have commercials for pharmaceuticals.
You're in America. I can't believe how any insane commercials there were.
And it's like a side effects include death and bleeding from your enus. I'm
like, what this is, like worse than the disease. The only two
countries in the world that are allowed to have, you know, pharmacy to
consumer direct commercials at the United States and New Zealand. I get people all
the time. We have friends who live in Ecuador. They came home to
visit their family. They're like, what has gone on? They had something
for hair loss and it was forty five seconds of side effects? You know,
all of the commercials here are the same thing. They're people walking in
slow motion, smiling, and it's fifteen seconds of what it might help you
with and then forty five seconds of death stroke. You know, fingers fall
off, cross eyed, bell's pausy, one thing after another, right,
And I think I was really disappointed in our Canadian doctors and nurses because they're
not like incentified, incentivized like they are in America. And America. It's
almost like, you're the doctors are like drug dealers, right, like they
get kickbacks from certain certain drugs. Right yeah, here too, um,
but here here are doctors don't have that, So I just didn't. I
mean, you know, a lot of them probably meant well, but I
mean, after you're but that's that's all well and good if you're not liable,
right yeah, right? If if we have one lady here in Canada,
I can't remember what her handle is, Independent Journalists or something like that.
She goes around to pharmacies and she is handing out notices of liability and
I think this is such a powerful thing. Can you imagine being served with
a notice of liability and then you're on the hook, right, Like,
think about the next time you're going to inject somebody with something, but now
you're liable that that's the way it should have been all along. Yeah.
Absolutely, And people need to sit down and read the Nuremberg Code and realize
this is treason what they did over the last couple of years, and it's
it's it's insane. How you know they coerced people and that exact word is
in the very first section of the Nuremberg Code. It's coercion and threatening people
with their being able to feed their families. Take the jab or or good
luck finding another job. You know, I'll tell you this and we'll get
back to flat Earth. But on my fact Under podcast in twenty twenty one,
I was getting emails from guys who had like eighteen years in the service.
They were two years away from their retirement and they were being forced with
this stuff. And I was just heartbroken because you know, I put myself
in that, and you know, I thought about it, and I'm like,
oh, my goodness, two years away from and our pension and the
military starts right on retirement. You don't have to wait till your sixty it
starts as soon as you retire. It's part of the reasons I'm able to
do what I do now. I mean, I still have my side hustles,
but it was just very, very infuriating to see what they did to
people. It's, um, so your wife, she can't get her job
back. No, no, she was. Yeah, and you know the
whole range of If you remember when when these folks were passing, they weren't
allowed to have anybody in the room with them. Yeah, this is another
like, yeah, unbelievable. So my wife would be in there with as
they passed, um and she would have to listen to these people cry,
you know, as they were passing, and I just want to see my
husband. I just want to see my daughter. And you know, my
wife, they call her a hero. These companies were buying you know,
there would be dinner buffets for him at night. You know, they were
heroes. And a year later, if you didn't take um this tree,
you know, vaccine with zero test history to it, you were vilified and
had to test every week and wear you know two they made her wear two
masks, dude, two masks, and um it was just and here's my
wife. She came first generation Hungarian. She came to the United States at
the age of twenty two and then you know, here's me. You know,
I was in the military for twenty four years thinking I'm defending the Constitution,
and then they do this to our family and it's just sickening the whole
thing. And I know the reason I talk about it is because the flat
earth helped me realize that everything is a lie. Like literally, almost everything
is a lie, and we have to question everything. And that's one of
the reasons that I'm thankful that I did woke wake up at the time.
You know, I stayed far away from that, from that vaccine. I
think it's kind of a blessing to question everything. It makes life more interesting,
yea, instead of just taking everybody's word for it, which is what
they did to us in school. They just shoved as much into us as
possible and then shoved us out the door. And most of it was who
knows what, and we never we just never question it, right, We
just believed our teachers. And honestly, like, I'm in my mid forties
and I'm excited to wake up and work and then in the evenings I'll read
and I'll learn new things. It's like, wow, it's like I remember
finishing university. I just never even wanted to read a book ever again,
just because they just shoved us so full of whatever. You know, all
these books that I didn't even want to learn, and now I don't know.
I, like I said, I'm looking for the good, and the
good is researching. It's fun. It's it's fun to go on podcasts,
it's fun to connect with people, and it's not fun to be laughed at
and made fun of and be told you're an idiot. But I got this
great quote from Gandhi for you here. It says, first they ignore you,
then they'll laugh at you, and then they'll fight you, and then
you win nice. And I think it's inevitable that that's just human nature,
right if we can persevere, if we can, if we can persevere through
being made fun of and then being vilified, you know, eventually they just
have to accept the fact that we're you know, we're we're gonna blaze the
trail. And it's it's kind of cool, Like who am I, I'm
just Joe Canada in the middle of nowhere. And you know, if if
I can help some people realize that, you know, the government isn't your
best friend, like this is animal farm, like read everybody read Animal Farms
if you haven't, like, it'll tell you everything you need to know about
the government. And yeah, I just it's it's incredible. And I want
to say George that you're very smart for marrying a Hungarian woman, because I
mean, obviously I did too, and life's just never been better. It
has not. It's the most She's just changed my life. And how she
puts up with me, I don't know, but I'm blessed that she woke
up with me. And when I presented her with this, I was like,
what is she going to think? Um? And let me ask you
that we're starting to wind down here, we're almost two hours in, but
I do want to ask you. Obviously you probably like me when you finally
said it, Yeah, I think the Earth is flat. Were you anxious
to share it with other people or were you hesitant? Yeah? So that's
where I think that you're awesome and you you share the knowledge so well,
and I get too passionate. I get like really fired up, and I
can see people shut down and it's like, oh man, and I'm trying
to even stay calm here on the podcast. But once I get going,
I get going. But right away I had to share it with my wife,
and I was showing her, you know, some of these things,
and we're, you know, she's very open, and I'm I'm open too,
like we're I'm not totally married to anything, because I think you get
a lot of blind spots when you are. Yeah, but the more we
learn, the better. And I presented it to my wourteen year old daughter
and she just thought, I'm like, she still thinks I'm crazy, and
that's okay. She thought I was crazy about COVID. She thought that I
was a big conspiracy theorist against the the vaccine, and she just wanted to
get it. But she just wanted to be like all her friends. Right,
She's trying to fit in and find her way. But it's my job
as her dad to protect her. And then my youngest daughter, she is
totally on the flat earth bandwagon with me. It's so funny. She's in
grade six and she goes to Catholic school and their teaching and I was really
surprised that in Catholic school they teach the Big Bang theory. And I even
emailed the teaching like her teacher, I'm like, are you ignoring Genesis or
what's going on here? And that to me, that was very interesting.
Flat Earth is it's such an interesting topic, and I want to get better
at providing key points that spark people's curiosity and get and ask the right questions.
So lately i've been I have a friend that's a pilot, so I
was just kind of asking him questions like did you see the Have you ever
seen the curve of the Earth. He's like, yeah, I saw it
at forty thousand feet. I'm like, oh, well, that's I'm cool.
I'm like, I'll believe you before I believe Neil de grass Tyson.
But I just want you to know that your buddy Neil de grass Tyson says
you can't see the curve until one hundred and twenty thousand feet, so he's
calling you a liar, so you should probably check with him and make sure
that you can see it. So I'm not a pilot, and I've never
been at forty thousand feet. I've probably been at twenty twenty thirty thousand feet.
But I mean, you look out the window, there's it's horizon,
right. I don't if people only knew what they were supposed to see without
a fisheye lens the and that's what bothers me. It's if the Earth was
a globe. Fine, but whatever numbers they've given us for the earth curvature,
we can see further than that, and we can prove that those numbers
are incorrect. Absolutely. I've been I've been thinking, you know, I've
been saying I want to start doing more activism locally, and uh, I
decided, I don't know if I want to come up with flyers where like
if I came up with a really cool flyer with something you could hand to
somebody, you know, but what information should I put on it? You
know, it's got to be catchy, it's got to be inquisitive, and
it's got to have a website on it or or business cards. Business card
is something I've been you know, kicking around as well, something you can
hand to somebody, so hey, check this out. And um, but
I think you have you know, Biblical Earth because I think, and again,
I'm never going to change the title because so many people put flat Earth
in their search engine and that's how they find the podcast. But there is
a stigma to those words. So you know, I've been saying I really
want to do more things locally on the ground with activism. But I really
want to make sure that whatever I come up with, whether it be a
flyer, and if I ever did do that, I would put it on
the website so people could long on and put them off from themselves. But
I want it to be inquisitive. I want to make people curious to look
into it, and and again I want to make sure it's presented well because
that's the most important thing. You never know when like when somebody listens to
my podcast, always think they don't always start at the first podcast. So
I always try to, you know, keep everything even keel, and I
don't like to use words like globe, TRD and um you know sheeple,
which you know at some point maybe I use the sheep a word. But
we need to be a welcoming community and uh, you know we're Christians.
You know, we're God fearing, christ loving people. And I do want
to start doing things locally. So if anybody has any ideas, you know,
send me an email. Maybe you can come up with a flyer or
a business card example for us to share and you know, next time we're
walking around the mall or our SAMs we go to Sam's Club once a month
to get our supplies. We can uh, you know, leave some little
nuggets, you know, maybe on the anyway, you know what I'm getting
at. I'm sure that you and I can collaborate because that's basically what we
do for a living. So yeah, please tell us a little bit about
KP Design if you wouldn't mind. Sure. My wife and I we've known
each other since we were fifteen years old. We're going on forty five's almost
thirty years together. We got married when we were twenty. My wife's been
an entrepreneur, one of the first like stay at home moms, but working
as a graphic designer, web designer, raising our kids. And she was
originally a music teacher. And yeah, now we do amazing brands, website
design, business cards, all all sorts of things like that. I do
the SEO and Google ads for people, and it's been incredible. Like I
think I started with her four years ago, but she's been in business for
over twenty years now, and I came in and I basically back engineered,
reverse engineered my position with the company and we've been growing ever since. And
it's been it's been such a blessing. It was one of our goals growing
up even was to eventually work together, and we've we actually made it happen
just before COVID, and it was so cool to you know, connect the
dots that man, we're self employed and we don't you know, we're so
blessed that we don't have to endure the you know what is it, darress
of having this shot held over your head. I mean, I know that
we suffered by not being able to go out and you know, basically only
go to the grocery store. But we're, like I said, we're just
looked for the good and we never got sick and and we you know,
we we became stronger throughout the entire or deal. We actually wrote a book
called Partners and Everything that's on Amazon if anybody wants to check that out.
And I seriously encourage anyone to go out there and start a business with your
spouse, because the two of you working together can do incredible things. There's
a lot of people that joke that they could never work with their spouse,
But my wife and we don't really step on each other's toes. She has
her side of the business and I have mine, and when we you know,
you know, bond together and go forward with this vision of what we
want to do, we really elevate the human experience for all of our clients.
Now going forward, one of our major goals is to buy a big
property, just don't know where yet, and we would like to create a
healing center for people to come either from mental health, physical health, spiritual
health. We want to be the facilitators or not. We would bring in
facilitators, but we would be the organizers and the hosts for something like that.
And that is KP Designs future goal. Like we would love to you
know, give back to our community or have people come in from other countries
even and just heal because there's a lot of damage out there that's been done
and if we could build something incredible to you know, give back, that
would just even if even if I didn't get any money, that would make
my heart explode because you would I feel like I would you know, accomplish
my life and soul's purpose by by doing that, and especially with my partners.
So that's that's basically the long answer of what we do. That's great
and again it's uh KP Design dot c A and the link will be in
the show description and you can click on the contact link to reach out to
Alex. And if you wouldn't mind, well we're done here, could you
send me? Could you email me a link to your book on Amazon so
I can put that in the show description as well. Yeah, for sure.
Awesome. That way people don't have to, you know, get onto
Amazon and start searching for it. So again, folks, in the show
description there'll be his website, um, and his the link to his book
as well. So um, and again, we'd love to hear from you,
guys. It's the fact that, jeez, this is what happens when
I do two podcasts and one day my mind goes. It's the flat Earth
files at gmail dot com. Uh. With with your your thoughts and comments,
and again, if you'd like to join the show like Alex did tonight,
Alex, I'd like to give you the floor for any final thoughts.
Yeah, um man, I feel like I talked so much, but I'm
just so honored to be on the show. And I hope that I did
a good enough job, you know, inspiring some people to at least challenge
some of the numbers and the narrative. I'm a big numbers guy, and
that's how I got involved in this. And I love real science, and
what they've been telling us on TV is not real science. I think most
of us know that by now, and I don't even have to pretend that
I'm a professor of anything. Like what we can learn and what we can
do going out and finding the right resources is incredible, and question everything.
Don't don't you know, just assume that you know Isaac Newton's a great guy
at all, but just don't. We can't even assume that everything he did
was on the up and up anymore because of all these contradictions now, So
don't don't get married to an idea either, Like I said many times during
during the podcast, if you know, who knows exactly what's going on in
this realm? But we know it's not what they say it is. So
we might as well have fun and meet incredible people, have great conversations,
don't get angry with each other, and yeah, don't just make it a
positive experience trying to learn from other people. You can always learn something from
somebody. I could even learn something from Justin Trudeaux. How mostly what not
to do, But it's still it's still something to learn. There you go.
What was certainly a pleasure having you on and again let's let's cross over
down the road. I'd love to have you on the Fact Tunner as well.
It's funny the guy I interviewed this morning was for the Fact Tunner and
he's going to be coming on the Flat or the Fire else down the road,
so we're having a dual show crossover today. It's incredible. And remember,
folks, just because an apple fell from a tree doesn't prove gravity.
For Alex again from Cochrane, Alberta, Canada, thank you so much for
joining us. Don't have to get to check the show description to reach out
to Alex and we'd love to hear from you again. It's the flat Earth
Files at gmail dot com and please stop buy the website, The flat earth
Files dot com. God bless everyone. Thank you again for joining us.
Until the next time, my friends, we will see it