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You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio
Network. Welcome back true seekers from around

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the world. It's time for another
edition of The Flat Earth Files and standing

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by, we have a special guest
who will be joining us in just a

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moment. Alex will be joining us
from Cochran, Alberta, Canada. We're

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certainly having our guests a nice variety. We just had Lauren the other night

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from Australia, so we appreciate all
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we kick off and bring Alex in,

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files dot com. All right, let's

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jump into it, Ladies and gentlemen. Alex reached out to me a few

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weeks ago and he's got a great
website, which is I'm gonna bring it

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up right here. It is KP
Design dot c A. Check it out.

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If you'd like to reach out to
him, you can go on the

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website and you can connect with him
there. Ladies and gentlemen, help me.

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Welcome Alex from Cochrane, Alberta,
Canada. How are you to today,

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sir, I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me on the

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show. Yeah for sure. Thanks, thanks for the email, and thanks

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for all the information. And you've
got some great stories with your family,

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quite a legacy, and talking to
you briefly before the show started, you're

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doing a tremendous job of carrying that
legacy. So please introduce yourself to the

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audience. Hi, everybody, my
name is Alex, and I came up

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with this tagline this morning. I'm
an inquisitive geocentrist and if anybody else wants

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to borrow that lit label so you
can escape the stigma of the flat earth,

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the negative stigma. Please use inquisitive
geocentrist. That's that's a good one.

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That if we get a lot of
recommendations, you know, biblical earth,

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and that's a good one. Was
that geocentric inquisitive you're inquisitive geocentrist in

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and you can just play around with
that. Nice So why don't you tell

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the audience a little bit about your
awakening process and like where was flat Earth

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in your I guess your hierarchy of
awakening? Okay, So I would say

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that my awakening started pretty late in
life, so I joke around that,

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you know, Santa Claus kind of
got killed in front of me way later

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in life, so it was a
little bit more traumatic. So I'd say

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when I was about twenty four,
twenty five years old, my electrical schools

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teacher, just for fun, I
don't know how we got on the topic,

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but he was asking everybody in the
class to raise their hand to see

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who believed in the moon landing.
And I was the only one that raised

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their hand because I was the only
one that I actually believed that went to

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the moon and that that was about
almost twenty years ago, and that was

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kind of a huge eye opener to
me that something so huge could be could

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be a lie. And then obviously, over the last two years, basically

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everything we've watched on the news,
I would say has been a complete lie.

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And anybody that you know disagrees with
that, I'm sorry, but you

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need to check reality because these people
are not telling us the truth on the

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news. Nothing is for our own
good. It is to control us.

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So funny enough that you know,
we're talking about the stairwell to flat Earth.

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So I started to get into jiu
jitsu last year and I started following

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Eddie Bravo. This is kind of
a funny segue in the flat Earth,

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but Eddie Bravo is a big jiu
jitsu guy and he talks about flat Earth.

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And I was listening to the Tinfoil
Had podcast with Eric Dubey, Sam

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Tripoli and I think one of the
Gracie family members were on there. I

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don't know if you've heard that episode
before, George, Yeah, it's a

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very it was very interesting, and
I thought, oh, man, okay,

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so I'm like, this is crazy. What are these guys talking about?

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Um, you know, I know
math, I know physics. I'm

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not a I'm not a professor,
but I know enough. I worked in

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electrical engineering. I got this.
I'm going to prove flatter the wrong once

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and for all, and away we
go. I started the deep dive,

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and every hour, every like every
minute, every hour that went by,

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as I was uncovering, you know, appealing back the onion, I just

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realized that the foundation that which we
are taught on is it's nonsense. There's

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so much wrong, and everybody always
asked, well, what was it?

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And we can get into that,
but just you know, the things,

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the lies that they talk on,
you know, put on top of lies

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to try and convince us that we're
on this like spinning ball. We are

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space monkeys that are evolving. And
the more I got into it, the

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you know, the more upset I
was getting, because I you know,

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I told myself that this will be
very easy to shut down quickly. And

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I hope that when I speak to
people, I try to keep my passions

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down so that I don't come across, as you know, too aggressive or

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too assertive. I want people to
be inquisitive and ask questions. And but

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wow, once you start digging,
it's it's an amazing journey and I'm really

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grateful for it. It's actually like
really revveed me up over the last I

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guess I've been doing. I've been
researching since August, and man, it's

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just like I felt so alive when
I had this epiphany in September of twenty

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twenty two that you know, I
had faith before, but this was like

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that cementing of God made me for
a reason. I'm here. I have

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free will. The story of creation
in Genesis is what happened, and the

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creationist story of the Big Bang,
that's the myth that that's the lie that

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pulls you away from God. And
you know, I had my Aha moment

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that anything that's trying to pull you
away from God is not good. Even

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if even if the world isn't a
you know, a flat plane like they

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say it is, or if it's
a triangle or a trapezoid, if if

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this community can get you closer to
God, it is a good thing.

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And you know, I call myself
a geocentrist now because I do believe in

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the story of creation. I look, I look out into the sky and

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I see the sun, and I
see the moon. And even yesterday I

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looked out, I saw the sun
and the Moon at the same time in

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the sky, and you know,
the moon is not being blocked by the

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Earth. I'm looking right at the
sun like there's there's just so many things

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that we can get into that too, but there's just so many things.

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Once you start to like deprogram,
you just notice you start trusting in your

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senses again. And I think that's
what so much of schooling and the programming

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does to us. It takes us
away from our get God given senses.

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That is such an important point,
and we talk about this so often,

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is people are more They'll they'll take
the word of somebody they've never met before

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because they have on a white lab
coat and a name tag versus what they

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can see here, feel in touch. And it's time to start, you

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know, start believing in the things
you can see. Do these tests for

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yourself. Some of these you can
do very simply. I was listening to

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you as you were describing your awakening, and I was thinking of Alex in

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September twenty twenty two and thinking of
myself, say again, oh, I

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thought you said something. I'm sorry. I was thinking myself the same way.

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You know, I'd read an article
when I finally let my guard down

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to look into this and the process, and you start to run your fingers

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through your hair and you shake your
head a little bit and you're like,

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this can't be happening. There's no
way. I mean, nine eleven is

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one thing, you know, the
golf of Tonk and Kennedy, this,

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that and the other thing, and
then you go it goes back to the

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moon landing at like you said,
And even as a young man, I

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didn't buy off on that, on
the whole thing. And now as time

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moves on and you look at those
videos from nineteen sixty nine, you can

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tell they were, you know,
like a bad Godzilla movie from the sixties

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with the technology they had, and
this is the only technology in the history

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of the world that has gone backwards. Yet people will still boldly come on

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we and again the thing they always
go back to. Instead of look into

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it and trying to disapprove it,
they'll simply say either a it's too big

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of a lie. Too many people
are involved. And I can tell you

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of someone who is in a very
big organization, like the army. Compartmentalization

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is real. And when you were
talking about the news and how everything is

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a lie, people will say the
same thing. Well, how could they

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get away with it? But they
get They give it away with stuff every

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single day. This monster, which
is the government has turned into this huge

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octopus that has zero accountability that they
do what they want, they don't care

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what we think at whatsoever. And
because we've never held them accountable, this

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octopus is only going to continue to
grow unless we put our foot down right.

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And I think that so many of
us, I think so many people

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need to realize that the atrocities of
these lies are so poisonous and so awful,

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and we also have these like emotional
attachments to them, like something so

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incredible happened, How could it?
How could it be a lie? Right,

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whether it's a good thing like going
to the moon and man's greatest achievement,

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or if it's nine to eleven,
like, how could how could humans

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do that to one another? The
the I think this, these are the

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things that short circuit people's brains,
and when you have people like us talking

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about it to them, it it
cuts deep and they're not a lot of

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people aren't ready for that, and
maybe they never will be. And I

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really like what you do on this
podcast is you do it very well with

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kindness, and you don't um make
fun of anybody, and you don't um

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you know, you don't trash anybody
for their beliefs because we all were there,

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we were all and and you know, I'll get emotional here, but

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when we all die, we will
all come back together again. And you

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know, to me, that's that's
a good thing. Well, we'll know

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everything once we die and we go
back to the source, and you know,

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this this realm that we're in,
it's one of my friends was asking

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me, He's like, why did
God give us free will? And or

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why did God choose to give us
free will? And I didn't know the

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answer, and he says, he's
so that you could choose God. And

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I thought that was like wow to
me, I thought that was incredible.

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And how hard is it now to
choose God when there's so much, you

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know, depravity in the world,
like sexual depravity and just all these horrible

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things, like all these things that
are coming at us for us to consume,

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are are really meant to pull us
away in one way or another,

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from who we are, from our
senses, from you know, the good

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things that we can do when we
go out into our communities and and you

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know, serve to make it a
better you know, a better place.

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Yeah, going back to what you
were saying earlier in the conversation I had

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earlier today, when people say people
couldn't do that out people think of the

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evil that things do from their point
of view. And what you have to

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realize is people at the top of
the food chain and the word you have

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to use, their psychopaths. They
don't have their switch like we have right

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when we get angry, as we
get really mad, we have a switch

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that Okay, that's enough, you've
yelled, you're not But they don't have

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that switch. They look at us
as a number. And if you don't

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believe me, just if you're not
familiar with the Georgia guidestones, these guys

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are eugenics. They want to keep
the world population at five hundred million.

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They want you to believe that there's
wall to wall people around the world.

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There's no room left for anybody.
And anybody who's been on an airplane before

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knows how much land, unused land
is out there. It's ridiculous to think

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that we're being close to it.
And they want you to think there's a

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food shortage. Well, the reason
where there's it's not really a food shortage.

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It's just everybody depends on everybody else
for food. That if the grocery

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store is out of something, they
consider that a food shortage. But this

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society has made people, or led
people to believe that it's more important to

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have a pretty green lawn with no
dandylion than it is to grow your own

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food. Right, And I've been
saying it for ten fifteen years. If

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we all just tilled up our front
yards and grew gardens, nobody would go

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hungry, just just with the just
with the front yards, not even in

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the backyards. Yeah, it's funny. We have I've mentioned before we have

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Amish friends. Um, their front
yard is literally they use every square foot

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of the yard for food. There. Their entire front yard is just cabbage

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and celery and corn. Um that
they have hundreds of chickens. I mean

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they utilize every square inch they do. They go to the grocery store for

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things. Sure, they do um
our grocery stores in this area because we're

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in a rural area. They have
the little hitches for their horses and buggies.

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Um, there's horsepoop all over the
roads. Um, but they're the

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most down to earth, healthy,
loving people. We love interacting with them.

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The children are healthy, They've run
around with no shoes on on the

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gravel. Um. They're really in
touch. And I, you know,

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I look at him, I said, sometimes I wish I could just be

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like this, you know, just
just throw all of it away. These

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people don't sit around at their dinner
table and are you go about Russia and

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Ukraine and Trump and Biden. They're
just not a part of that world,

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right. I've been saying along,
you know, since the pandemic started,

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I said, somewhere in the in
the bushes is a is a hunter and

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he has no idea how terrified he's
supposed to be. Yeah, he's just

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going. He's just going about his
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my grandparents, I was telling you
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they'd seen some hard times, going
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in prison for speaking out against the
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the first thing they did when they
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backyard and do gardens, and they
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summer, they would can it and
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do that, and they kind of
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myself going back to what my grandparents
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are wanting to do that. I
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who lives in the development with an
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the board to get them to overturn
having poultry. I mean, people,

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there is, for lack of better
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People are start even the normalist of
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starting to understand there is something seriously
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for the first year of the pandemic, they just took it wholesale, and

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then they continued to drag it out. In the winner of twenty twenty one,

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they told us if we didn't get
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times. And people are waking up
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again, people who normally would just
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have a cold beer and watch sports, or starting to be more concerned.

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about chickens, and that's great.
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we want to change things, we
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and unplugged from that stop trading with
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I don't. I haven't been on
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if you don't want me, I
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to have a relationship with someone who
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them, So I'll go on Rumble
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of get back to your flat Earth
journey you had mentioned. Was there one

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particular thing that you may have read
or saw that completely changed your course of

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view on the flat Earth? Yeah? So when I started digging. You

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know, as some people give Eric
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mind him at all. He comes
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I would I first would tell people
to come and listen to the flat

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of files because I like the way
that you do this, but if you

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want to check out like two hundred
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because of you, I just bought
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I was reading. Yeah, I
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seriously, everybody should have just at
least check it out. And the Zetetic

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Astronomy I also grab that, So
that's really cool. So okay, So

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one of the big things that that
you know, hooked me was the North

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Star. I thought, this is
very very cool that the stars are all

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rotating around the North Star. So
what I did was I reverse engineered basically

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the lies. And I don't know, I say this to as many people

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as possible because I don't don't think
anybody can fathom that they want us to

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believe like these numbers. But like
when I went to school, I thought

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that the Sun just sat there.
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the Sun is like a comet flying
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thousand miles per hour. This is
insane. First of all, this is

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insane. Everybody that if you can
believe that, you need to snap out

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of it now. The next thing
was the convenient number of sixty six thousand,

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six hundred miles per hour, which
is the invisible carousel that we're on

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flying around the sun. And then
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you know, a thousand miles per
hour or whatever it is. And to

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tell me that at night, if
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camera with the aperture set, you
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say, and you can see all
those stars just perfectly spinning around the North

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Star. But yet all these magical
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x y z axises, and you
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This is this is lunacy. And
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either episode or eleven. I think
it was episode eleven you were talking with

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Sean and maybe it was another one
that basically they just reverse engineered the numbers

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for parallels, to make it convenient
that the stars are always there. They

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just make it trilliant. And I'm
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want to get the numbers that you
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That's fake there. You're hypo you're
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indeed, And Nicola Tesla. Nicholas
Tesla tried to warn us before he

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died that science was changing. It
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actual experiments to math, you know, matth equations, and they would manipulate

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the numbers to fit the answers that
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thing was obviously water. Water is
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that it can you know, curve
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other. This like, seriously,
people need to realize that this lie is

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so monstrous that that it like it's
so easy to deceive us if if they

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can just convince us of something that's
you know, we talk about physics,

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and I love physics. This is
not physics. This is fake. This

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is not real. And you know, I would love to have somebody just

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prove to us that the you know, you can get this concave water happening.

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I mean, you just look at
the Zetetic astronomy book that I have

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here, and he's got so many
experiments that show that this is preposterous.

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Like that's and that's what scares me
is this lie is so huge that everybody's

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protecting it. That's terrifying. That's
really terrifying that nobody can stop and and

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just go against it. It's like
the fact, it's like the foundation is

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built so strong on this lie,
and then you have all these other lies

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on top of it, like the
sun, like gravity. When when I

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heard that gravity is not real,
my mind almost exploded, and then I

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thought, I have to I have
to disprove that, like at least gravity

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is real. Come on, man, Like there's a gravitron installed in the

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center of this crazy ball that we're
on. Like I got approved that the

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gravitron is there. And one of
the lies that I did see long ago

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about flat Earth was that you walk
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to the edge, um, you
know, you're you'd be more and more

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attracted to the center. But that's
just it was. It was so preposterous

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because they were making a claim how
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it would just, you know,
you just like squish yourself at the at

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the end of the at the disc
or something. So they just use lies

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on top of lies, and that
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one of my friends was asking me
about the sticks and the shadows experiment,

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and I think that that only works
if your son is ninety three million miles

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away, But if it's you know, local, then it doesn't, right

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yep, or vice or vice versa
a thousand percent. And the thing I

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try to tell people, and again, this is something I didn't really realize

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until after I really decided to go
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which, of course we all know. All it does is prove flat

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Earth when you try to disprove it. But dang it, where was I

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going? Um? Oh? Burney's
so like before we were flat Earth,

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you know, geocentrists or biblical cosmologists
like I couldn't tell you how far the

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sun was away from Earth. If
you would have asked George from twenty fifteen,

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just if you would have walked into
my store and said, hey,

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how far is this? I wouldn't
have said ninety three million miles, you

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know, if I if I couldn't
google it off the top of my head.

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And it's the same with the people
who won't look into it if you

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ask them. If you if you
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and ask a hundred people how far
you know you're not going to get many

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people who get it right, they're
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at you like you like your mental
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Every I'm telling you, I'm telling
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TV show from about fifty five or
fifty six on has a globe in every

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single movie, sometimes multiple And it's
just it's subliminal programming. Is a thousand

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percent of what it is. You've
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that, I mean, that's unquestionable, like and it is. It's really

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flat Earth, I discovered that the
Mercader map is not accurate. And this

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really bothered me because I believe it
was the Catholic Church or something along those

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lines somewhere in Europe they commissioned this
MerCad map. So it showed the more

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of the northern hemisphere being predominant,
like Greenland being almost the size of South

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America. And apparently you know that's
not correct, right, like the gall

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Peters map is you know, supposed
to be a better representation. But obviously

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on the flat Earth map, you
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more more squished. And you know, to me, that was a big

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m To me, that's a red
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they're purposely wrong, that to me, that's not right either. Right,

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you're misleading people one hundred percent.
And again it should be noted that,

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like you said, this map,
the Marcater projection map, this came out

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in the sixteenth century, the same
time in Copernicus and all the other folks

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were really pushing this thing where you
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is on top of the ball and
Antarctica is on the bottom of the

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ball. And again there's a lot
of misrepresentation by this map. Great.

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was going to say that it's just really

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really important for us to break this
stigma. It's really unfortunate. I mean,

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it's it's on purpose, right,
like you hear Obama talking about flat

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earthers and the Flat Earth Society.
But I do want to give a huge

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shout out to my boy Justin Trudeau
for you know, hyping up flat Earth

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and how fake it is, because
we know that everything out of that guy's

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mouth is a lie. And if
he's telling us in twenty twenty three,

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if he's got to sell the globe
to everybody in twenty twenty three, you

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know something's up. So I want
to give him a huge shout out because

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if that didn't wake up a bunch
of people, I don't know what will,

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because I mean, these guys,
everything out of their faces is a

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lie, and it's it's beyond embarrassing, especially since I'm almost the same age

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as as this guy, I mean
Biden. I mean he's like weekend at

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Bernie's. He's got an excuse,
right, but I mean justin Trudeau should

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have a few marbles left in his
head. Yeah, that's interesting. Somebody

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from Canada just two or three days
ago, like he cited you know,

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if he said this, then I
think flat Earth has gotta be true.

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That's kind of how he closed the
email, and I just laughed. I

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actually made a little video and rumble
about that when it came out, and

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it's gone over pretty well. Something
interesting. When you I'm sorry, go

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ahead. I was gonna say for
anybody who hasn't seen it. Pierre Trudeau's

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eulogy when Justin Trudeau. You can
go on YouTube to watch it. So

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Justin Trudeau actually goes into this story. It might be edited or not,

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but he actually you know, i'll
give you the Coles Notes version. I

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don't know if you've seen this,
George, but he talks about taking this

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trip to the North Pole with his
dad and something happened there and he had

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a moment where he realized, my
dad is a very very powerful man for

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what he saw there, and that
was kind of the only hint. But

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I tell you what, that makes
me really want to go check out the

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North Pole and what's happening there,
because if he's going to drop breadcrumbs like

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that, that's pretty interesting. Anyway. Check that out for everybody listening.

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mentions flat Earth, but I did find

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out Trudeau offers emotional tribute to former
prime minister. So this would have been

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just a couple of years ago.
Huh, Yeah, I guess so whenever

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his dad died, the original communist
lover. Yeah, a lot of people

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don't realize that his father was the
prime minister back and that was it.

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The seventies and eighties. Yeah,
in the seventies. There's a book on

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I can't remember what the author's name
is. It's called Red Handed. He

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goes into discussing like Pierre Trudeau's a
smart guy, like Justin Trureau was not.

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But Pierre Trudeau was a very smart
man, and he saw the potential

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in China and teaming up with them, and he started, he started something.

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And now his you know, Trudeau
Junior is you know, carrying the

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torch for China, and they're doing
all sorts of crazy stuff here. Yet

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to the point that there was a
lot of reports last year there was actual

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Chinese troops training in Canada. And
I do know for a fact that they

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their military college War College, did
host some Chinese generals there last year,

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okay. And I know that we
do have Chinese police stations here as well,

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so that they can keep tabs on
on their people, which is to

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me, that's just insane. I
mean, I didn't want to believe that,

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but you know, who knows what
you know? You might as well

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take it for what it's worth and
try and prove it wrong. Now,

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because that's the kind of world we
live in where you and I have to

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be the scientists, and we have
to dig if we want to get to

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the truth, because we can't trust
these people anymore in the in their you

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know, fancy lab coats in their
ivory towers. That's right. Something that

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really resonated with me. In your
email when you first reached out to me,

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you talked about having your revolver with
the six silver bullets to either prove

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flat Earth or wake someone up.
Number three is the one I'd like to

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start with, okay, and it's
a big one too. And I encourage

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00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.799
everybody to pause this podcast here in
a second and look for yourself. Don't

408
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.400
take my word for it, don't
take Alex's word for it. Look for

409
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:56.599
yourself. You can do Australia to
Santiago, Chile, or you can even

410
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:02.960
do Sydney to um johannes in South
Africa. Okay, what you're going to

411
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:10.200
see is for me, like when
I did Sydney to Johannesburg, they always

412
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:15.240
stop in Abu Dhabi. From Sydney
to Abu Dhabi, Abidhabi to Johannesburg or

413
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.559
vice versa. I forget which way
it was. If you look at it

414
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.000
on a globe map, it makes
absolutely no sense whatsoever. It goes due

415
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:29.519
northeast and then due southwest, and
when you're accompanying making money and fuel costs

416
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.279
as much as it does, you're
going to take a direct route and that

417
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:37.160
makes no sense what's soever at all. But when you look at it on

418
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:45.160
a flat earth map, it makes
complete sense. Go ahead, Yeah,

419
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.359
for sure. I think I haven't
read the book yet, but it's on

420
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.720
my list, is the Sixteen Emergency
Landings. I think that's very, very

421
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.000
important for all of us to read, because once I started, this was

422
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.440
a huge Eric dubet a thing for
me. I'm like, screw this guy.

423
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.720
I'm going to prove him wrong.
I'm going to book a flight from

424
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.200
Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. And wouldn't you know it, it's

425
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:15.599
there's no direct flights and on a
flat earth map you're going from Santiago to

426
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:22.359
lax and then you're going to Japan
and then you're going to Australia. There

427
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:28.160
are some exceptions though, and I
have I have to confirm it. It

428
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.119
would be great if we could get
actual flight logs. I have seen where

429
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:37.519
they you know, will fake um, you know this is hearsay, but

430
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.960
they'll they'll say that you can do
a direct flight from Santiago to Sydney,

431
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:46.119
but they'll end up canceling those flights. I've heard that. Yeah, So

432
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.039
I can't confirm that, but it
would be amazing if we could get some

433
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.920
people, some pilots out there,
you know, anybody that could get flight

434
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:58.359
logs and you know, just confirm
that, like you know, call us

435
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.359
out. Then at least at least
let us know what's possible, right,

436
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.680
because you're not going to circumnavigate on
the bottom of the globe, which would

437
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.880
be the easiest. You just pop
up on the other side, like show

438
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:15.759
us right, absolutely, And then
your number two was talking about disproving gravity.

439
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.000
Yeah, to me, this was
um wow, Like I said,

440
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:28.240
it blew my mind when I mean, it just makes it makes total sense

441
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:35.359
density and buoyancy if there's you know, gravity. To me, when I

442
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.279
was taking physics, it was a
convenient number for us to just calculate weight.

443
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.920
It's nine point eight one per second
square. It's an acceleration of you

444
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.799
know, you can get your terminal
velocity whatever. But still, I mean,

445
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:52.920
for you know, like you have
this gigantic ship in the in the

446
00:33:52.920 --> 00:34:00.759
water and you have a pebble,
and like so density and boy and see

447
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.880
or buoyancy is more powerful than gravity, right, Like you can have a

448
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.359
pebble that will sink to the bottom
of the ocean, but you the Titanic

449
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.039
will, well, it'll eventually sink
if it hits an iceberg, but it'll

450
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.079
you know, it'll float for the
time being. Right. That's a cool

451
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.760
conspiracy too, by the way,
getting rid of the bankers, the bankers

452
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.079
the other way, So that's super
cool. So you know, we'll eventually

453
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.679
we'll just cross link to all all
the episodes. But um, to me,

454
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:29.920
that was the most mind blowing just
walking just walking around and realizing like

455
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.960
that this lie is so crazy.
But is it a lot? It's not

456
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.679
a lot. It's a theory,
right, just like the theory of relativity.

457
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.760
And when I was talking to some
people online about you know, you

458
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.559
know, going to the South Pole, Let's let's fly down in the South

459
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.000
Pole. We'll walk around upside down, you know, on the bottom of

460
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:51.960
this ball. Like how it's so
simple. A child would think of it

461
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.599
that way, right, But that's
exactly what it would be, yea.

462
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.639
And these people all they can say
is, well, it's relative to your

463
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.159
position. If you're on the bottom
of the ball and you're looking up,

464
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.079
you're it up is up to you. I'm like, no, like you're

465
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.400
over complicating it. It's it's honestly
that simple. You cannot stand on the

466
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.639
bottom of a ball and pretend that
gravity is so strong underneath that it's going

467
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.400
to suck you up. You know, whereas if we were at the north

468
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.039
pole, it would be easier for
gravity to do its work. Right,

469
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.800
Yep, it holds us down,
But a little butterfly can fly around with

470
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.639
no problem whatsoever. Right, And
then when I talk about the speed of

471
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:37.079
the Earth spinning, you know at
the at the equator when we talk about

472
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.880
gravity, so technically at the equator, it's spinning the fact that fastest,

473
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:46.639
and we should wait less because we're
actually like getting whipped off of the Earth

474
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.480
more right, Like we're actually talking
about physics and real horses. You know,

475
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.960
if I'm if I'm in Canada and
I fly to wherever Brazil, somewhere

476
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:00.519
somewhere in the equator, I should
weigh less. That's because of you know

477
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.400
how fast here that is not going
to happen. We know that that's not

478
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.960
going to happen, and uh,
I mean, we could just go on

479
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.920
and on like it's it's almost so
simple. And it was right there,

480
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.360
and you think, why didn't I
think of that before? Right? But

481
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.159
once, like I was like going
back to earlier in the show. People

482
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.599
don't know these numbers. They don't
understand these numbers that a bullet is flying

483
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:31.719
eighteen hundred miles per hour and you're
you know, we're rotating here one revolution

484
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.079
per twenty four hours, but that
computes too, you know six, you

485
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.079
know, one thousand miles per hour, fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred kilometers an

486
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.639
hour, like we're speeding, We're
flying, like spinning at the speed of

487
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:49.400
almost a bullet. It's crazy.
And then you have people who try to

488
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:53.280
argue the Coriolis effect, Well,
it works for bullets, but it doesn't

489
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.519
work for planes. It's either got
to be one or the other. And

490
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.039
it was great. I had a
bunch of guys reach out to me who

491
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.639
are in the military and they verified, you know, it's just it's more

492
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.920
the spin of the round that comes
out of the barrel, which causes it

493
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:15.400
to maybe go left or right depending
on the particular boring of the particular barrel.

494
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:21.800
You know, they were flying well
before GPS was ever around, and

495
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.519
the only thing they would make a
difference for is wind speed. Right,

496
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.360
That's the only thing that they would
make an adjustment for. Right. So

497
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.639
Okay, before I forget, there
is one more thing I want to talk

498
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.079
to you, Yes, sure,
and or there's actually lots I want to

499
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.039
talk to you about. But this, to me, it's like, Okay,

500
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:45.000
let's say we can't let's say the
let's say the Earth is a globe,

501
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:52.159
but they lied, like they use
their old old ways of figuring things

502
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.599
out. But let's say that the
globe is actually like twenty times larger and

503
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.360
that's why all these calculations are not
working. Right. But now they're so

504
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.760
far into these inconvenient lies that they
can't backpedal. And that's same and I

505
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.559
think that goes with the moon too. They created such a huge lie that

506
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:16.599
it's this gigantic catastrophe now that they
just you know, that to me is

507
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:24.880
one of the biggest like disgusting inconveniences
to actual science and actual reality is these

508
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.199
make believe lies that they made in
the past, and now we all have

509
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:35.159
to suffer because they just want to
save face. And with anything else.

510
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.079
Once you lie, you have to
continue to lie to cover your previous lies.

511
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.000
And that original lie from July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine has cost US

512
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:52.320
hundreds of billions of dollars. Yeah. So I was studying a lot of

513
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.159
Exodus during the pandemic. I was
trying to figure out human nature. And

514
00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.199
as I was studying Exodus started to
dig more into the ten commands. I

515
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.760
mean, I knew them, but
you know, I didn't realize how important

516
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:08.360
they are. And thou shalt not
bear false witness, which is, you

517
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:14.599
know, basically you know, don't
lie or you know in the these guys

518
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.639
like I've heard you've talked about,
Um, was it is it? Bart

519
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.199
Bart Strible? Oh? Bart Sabrell, Yeah, Art Sabrell. When he

520
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:30.079
asked those astronauts to put their hands
on the Bible and break that commandment?

521
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:37.519
Um, they you could see how
serious lying is, and especially on the

522
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.920
Bible. They knew that they would
be doomed to hell. As it is,

523
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.920
they're living at hell with this lie. It like, provided they're not

524
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:50.719
complete psychopaths, they know, like
they'll drink themselves to death or or what

525
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.440
have you. But when you put
your hand on that Bible. People that

526
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:59.239
know how powerful that is. They
know, like, just because you don't

527
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:04.519
believe in something doesn't make it real
either, and that law, that commandment

528
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:09.079
is for real. So um,
yeah, that that's my that's my take

529
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:15.320
on that. That's how important telling
the truth is. And once you take

530
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.880
a bite at that poison apple and
you just start lying and you're going down

531
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.760
that path. Um, you're you're
you're hurting all of us. You're you're

532
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:29.840
hurting eight billion people right now,
whether directly or indirectly, whether they know

533
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:36.039
or they don't know, we're all
not realizing that God created us and that

534
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.320
we're here for a reason and we're
here to discover our gifts and share them

535
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.719
with each other. And you know, um, on earth as it is

536
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.719
in heaven, to do you know, to do the God, to do

537
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:53.440
God's work before we go back.
It's so it's so important. It's yeah,

538
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:58.480
yeah, that's a great point.
You know, I've never really studied

539
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.800
much into Michael Collins. I probably
need to take some time and do more

540
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.039
research into him, but I will
tell you that Neil Armstrong lived his last

541
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.719
thirty years or whatever. I think
he died in the late nineties early two

542
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.480
thousands. I mean, he drank
himself to death. He was a miserable,

543
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.960
miserable human being. He rarely made
any appearances, probably in fear.

544
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.360
Every time he was asked a question, he knew he had to lie.

545
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.400
And obviously, like you said,
these people understood. I try to be

546
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.679
you know, when I think about
this, I hope that maybe they were

547
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.199
bamboozled into it at the last minute, kind of like Capricorn one. You

548
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.760
know, these guys got in thinking
it was legit, and they got whisked

549
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:43.400
away. And listen, if you're
told, if you say anything, we're

550
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.800
going to kill your entire family.
And again, I'm just I don't know,

551
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.719
nobody knows. It's it's really nice
of you to say that. But

552
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:58.400
that being said, we also have
the that footage of them, you know,

553
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.360
with the window and they're flying and
they're trying to get the right shot.

554
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:05.679
Right. Yeah, they're they're doing
the Hollywood trickery. Ye, so

555
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.039
you know they know what they're doing, right, Yeah, that's that's that,

556
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:12.679
that's true. I just I know
you're trying to give them the benefit

557
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.599
of doubt, and it is upsetting, and it's it's it's very upsetting.

558
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:22.320
But could could But could you imagine, Alex, they'll weight having that way.

559
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:27.159
Could you imagine trying to sleep at
night knowing that there's little children around

560
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.239
the world that want to be like
you, and you are the biggest fraud

561
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:36.039
in the history of mankind. I
would probably throw up every time I saw

562
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:42.519
some type of a space thing or
space shuttle, Like space Shuttle is another

563
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.719
one of those like ridiculous things.
It's it's this giant, you know,

564
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.960
jumbo jet that they say can fly, you know, twenty thousand miles per

565
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.159
hour. It's insane. It is
like that thing would crumble. So what

566
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:57.960
is it? The XR seventy one
Blackbird can fly two thousand and that thing

567
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.440
is built for speed. Yep,
that thing that's an incredible piece of technology,

568
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:07.920
built like not you know, thirty
forty years ago. And yeah,

569
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:14.960
it's I think what we're doing here
is you know, really important to not

570
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.880
make fun of people, but to
just point out these things, even if

571
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.880
we have to repeat ourselves, Like
I always say, I want to come

572
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.599
in with like some new angles and
some silver bullets. But there's a lot

573
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:29.280
that you know, it bears repeating, even if it's for somebody who's hurted

574
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.800
for the first time. If somebody
hears you and me talking for the first

575
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:37.280
time about this and we inspire them
to go and just start digging. And

576
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.679
you know, I have so many
of us have imposter syndrome, right Like,

577
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.400
if I'm going to start reading and
digging, who am I to disprove

578
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:51.800
Isaac Newton who came up with gravity
in sixteen sixty six, conveniently right and

579
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.239
right? And who am who am
I to question all these people? And

580
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.239
you know, the thing that I've
come to realize is where none of those

581
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:07.320
people are any better than us.
Honestly, all these politicians, all these

582
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.719
faucies and stuff, these are just
people getting paid. These are actors.

583
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.079
We're all here on earth playing a
role, and nobody is better than the

584
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.679
other. It's just a matter of
how much you dig. I mean,

585
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.039
the things that you've come up with
in your episodes have blown me away,

586
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:29.400
and people call it's so insulting to
call you a conspiracy theorist when you when

587
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.559
you can see in each episode how
much time and research you take to connect

588
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:38.480
the dots that nobody else will,
that CNN will just tell you some crap,

589
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.960
and somebody has the nerve to tell
you that you're a conspiracy theorist.

590
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.639
To me, that like that actually
boils my blood when I when I hear

591
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:51.079
things like that when we're when we're
just regular guys and we're doing the job

592
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:57.199
that the people that we trust are
supposed to be doing. Yeah, it's

593
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.119
interesting. Um. You know,
growing up Mike and father, he was

594
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:06.639
very skeptical of the government. And
you know, back in the day,

595
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.320
there was actually a time when when
they were actual journalists out there. I

596
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.639
was taught as a young man that
journalists were the unofficial, you know,

597
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.639
fourth arm of the government. It
was their job to keep the other three

598
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:24.199
in check. In this day and
age, nothing is is further from the

599
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:30.519
truth. They are just an arm
of the illuminati, the you know,

600
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.639
the puppeteers. And there was that
documentary a few years ago that everybody watched

601
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.360
during COVID where all the news they
took all these you know, news clips

602
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:44.719
from around the country and they were
all saying the same thing. So that

603
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:50.039
really solidified Operation mocking Bird for me. If we can, if you still

604
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.360
want to stay down this trail,
but before we get off, I definitely

605
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:57.159
want I ask all our folks and
if you wanted to talk about COVID a

606
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.679
little bit, because we get so
many people who say that, you know,

607
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:05.400
they really overplayed their hand and that
was a large part of their awakening

608
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.719
experience. I know we touched on
her briefly, but I don't know if

609
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.760
there was anything else you wanted to
expand on. Oh yeah we can,

610
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.440
we can come back to flat Earth. We can talk about COVID right now.

611
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:21.000
I think that COVID is a is
a huge, a huge eye opener

612
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:28.199
for anybody. My wife and I
were proudly part of the Freedom Convoy where

613
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:31.280
the truckers went to Ottawa. So
my daughter, she sipped, skipped school.

614
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:35.000
We had the signs, we were
honking, and then we got in

615
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.559
the car and we actually joined the
convoy for about three or four hours.

616
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.199
If I could have, I would
have driven straight to Ottawa and been part

617
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:44.480
of that. I did talk to
a few people who were a part of

618
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:50.320
that, and it's just that was
important. That was a really important thing

619
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:55.159
for Canada, especially being so marginalized, and these people like had friends.

620
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.960
I had friends even saying nobody's making
you take the vaccine, and I said,

621
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.239
yeah, that's true. I am
self employed. My wife and I

622
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:10.119
we work together. But I can't
go to McDonald's and that's crazy, Like

623
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.920
I can't go to any restaurants.
I don't know how bad it was in

624
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.639
America, but the only place I
could go was the grocery store and that

625
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.760
was it. And that was for
months, I would say, probably four

626
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:25.920
or five months. And my wife
and I we're maybe the one percent that

627
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.400
didn't wear masks after a while.
I wear masks at the beginning, just

628
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.840
because of virtue signaling, just to
show you know, I'm a I'm a

629
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.920
good Canadian. I'm a you know, Canadians. We have a reputation for

630
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.480
all sticking together. But I think
it's to our It's actually to our detriment

631
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.880
because they knew, they know our
culture, the you know, the people

632
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.159
at the top. They know we're
going to look after each other, and

633
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.039
anybody that gets out of line,
you know, hates their neighbor and things

634
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:59.480
like that, and they can very
easily manipulate our population in America. I

635
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.400
like to think, you know,
I was very disappointed in what I saw.

636
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.840
I thought there are a lot more
freedom freedom fighters in America. You

637
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.840
know, don't tell me what to
do, uh, you know, I'll

638
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:14.159
do I'll do what I want.
Obviously at the beginning, it's great to

639
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.039
be cautious, but you know,
two weeks to flatten the curve. About

640
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.960
a week into two weeks to flatten
the curve. I just looked around him,

641
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:23.400
like, this is the stupidest thing
ever. This is not science.

642
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:30.920
This is this is preposterous, right, like it's it's it's insanity to think

643
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:36.559
that you're actually going to stop this
airborne virus and then being an electrician working

644
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:42.039
with asbestos and actually having proper respirators
that were sealed, you know, having

645
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.519
to be clean shaven, and then
knowing the micro on like particle size,

646
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.880
and then when you hear about actual
science of you know what a you know,

647
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.079
a COVID particle is or you know, like a disease particle, and

648
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:59.760
these masks, you're they don't do
anything. And it even says on the

649
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.639
ball box and people are getting mad
at me for like pointing at the box

650
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:07.239
and warning them like you are.
This is the false sense of security.

651
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:13.400
You're going to a hockey game wearing
a mask and you're you're thinking you're safe

652
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.760
and then everybody's got COVID. Like, I'm sorry, I wish I could

653
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:22.159
help you you know, I wish
I could help you if they were only

654
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.920
seated six feet away from each other. Oh exactly. Just to watch the

655
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.639
people on the news, that was
ridiculous watching them, you know, watching

656
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:37.840
like a Jack and Charles Barkley and
those guys sitting Can you like, seriously,

657
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.639
can you believe this? Like going
to the grocery store and having the

658
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.519
poor person behind this like plastic cage, Like it's unbelievable. It's just unbelievable.

659
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:53.119
Restaurants too, Like it's I mean, how many ridiculous things can we

660
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:59.599
say that people did? And you
know, is it? Are we laughing

661
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.960
about are we crying about it?
It's it's unbelievable what they got people to

662
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.840
do. And I'm guilty too.
I did. I did some of the

663
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.480
things before. I was just like
enough, Like it's two years and we're

664
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.320
at three years, and I cannot
fly into America. America, I think,

665
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.559
is the only country that I cannot
fly into you because you still have

666
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:22.400
to be vaccinated to the fly in
America. That change is in ten days,

667
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.159
sir. They just announced it today. Starting May eleventh, unvaccinated people

668
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:30.519
can fly into the United States.
Three years and two months later, Man

669
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.079
well, I'll be coming in see
you awesome. I miss I miss America.

670
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.320
There's two things that I wanted to
mention, to hit on what you

671
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:43.000
just spoke about. Number one is
the fear that they instilled on people.

672
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.440
I mean, here we are,
like you said, thirty, we're what

673
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:52.679
three years and change since it took
off. And yesterday I was at the

674
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.920
commissary on Dover Air Force Base doing
my grocery shopping, and there's still a

675
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.840
lot of people walking around in masks. M I ran into. I was

676
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.800
talking to our local pastors. We're
in a very small town. We have

677
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.719
two churches in the entire town,
and he was telling us that there are

678
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:16.239
still elderly people who refuse to come
to church in person because they're still scared

679
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:21.480
of COVID, which really that that
when I hear stuff like that, that

680
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.840
really saddens me. Sure, and
you know what, I can play both

681
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:30.320
sides of the coin. One of
one of our friends, she got very

682
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.079
very ill in Chicago and she had
to go she had to be hospitalized,

683
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:40.239
and they put her in a room
all by herself to die. She said

684
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:45.199
that she got basically zero care.
I think she refused M de Zevie,

685
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.199
thank god, because thank God,
probably would be dead. Right, That's

686
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.400
like that's the thing that kills you, even though that's the only thing that's

687
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.480
approved, And like how how insane
do things have to get? So she

688
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:04.760
literally prayed and you know he Matt
somehow healed herself with you know, using

689
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.760
the forces of you know, the
universal forces and whatever whatever you can,

690
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.679
UM, and she managed to get
home. But that that to me scared

691
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.679
me, UM, because I know
our medical system is not great here in

692
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.639
Canada, and if you get into
that hospital, you are in in very

693
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:28.039
big trouble. So that I was, I was scared. There was and

694
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:34.079
I could see through the lens of
an elderly person or somebody that was um,

695
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.559
you know, compromise with their immune
system. And I had a lot

696
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.119
of compassion for them, and I
did not judge them for wearing masks or

697
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:44.960
or doing whatever they had to do. It's you know, you know what

698
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:50.159
when you are blinded by fear,
um, yeah, you will do You'll

699
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:54.320
do anything to try and survive,
right absolutely. And the other thing for

700
00:52:54.360 --> 00:53:00.239
all the listeners, like here in
the States, UM explained to people what

701
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.400
it was like, UM with the
passport, you know, the I guess,

702
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.119
for lack of a better term,
where they called COVID passports um and

703
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:14.400
you not being allowed to go to
a restaurant. And even here they treated

704
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.239
people like my wife who wouldn't get
the JAB at the you know, she

705
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.800
was a nurse at the hospital,
that they treated you like a third world

706
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.440
citizen. And I'm not you know
what I'm trying to say, you know,

707
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:35.639
it's just what was it like for
you? Man? Without getting emotional,

708
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:43.079
it was it was really really hard
to have my dad called me and

709
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.519
after he had just finished watching the
news and yelled at me for putting him

710
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.360
in danger, even though he lives
in another city. Like that's something I'll

711
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.880
just never forget, you know,
that fear being you know, dumped upon

712
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:58.920
these people, and then you know, are are you n team? You

713
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:04.440
know, three jazz, two jabs, one jab, no jab. It

714
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.519
was unreal. And then these vacs
so we got QR codes here, like

715
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.679
if you got the JAB, then
you could go to hockey games, you

716
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.840
could like start to get back to
normal life, right. And I was

717
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:22.199
openly saying that even if I got
the job, I would never subscribe to

718
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:27.360
a two tier society like what they're
what they're trying to push here. It

719
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:31.880
was so orwellian, it was unbelievable. And then to top to top that

720
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.239
off, we had an Arrive can
app. I don't know if you've heard

721
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.559
of that, but anybody flying into
Canada would have to download an app on

722
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:47.400
their phone Quarte yeah, and enter
their information. And I'm just like,

723
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.320
why are people obeying this? Like, you do not have a government issued

724
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.079
cell phone. You do not have
to download their app. You do not

725
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.920
have like if okay, if we
were all in China and we had government

726
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:05.480
issued cell phones that came preloaded with
all these apps and we had to take

727
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.679
them everywhere. Fine, but guess
what this is in China. This is

728
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.519
Canada. You don't have to do. You could throw your cell phone on

729
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.880
the floor, stomp on it,
and walk through those gates and you should

730
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:21.599
be fine. Like you, it's
very presumptuous that we all have smartphones and

731
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.840
we all have to download this crazy
app. Like if that's not a red

732
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.320
flag to get rid of your cell
phone. I mean, I know I'm

733
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:32.159
addicted to it, but that I
mean, that's a scary thing, right,

734
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.000
absolutely, And people should be very
cautious of all the wearable technology out

735
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:42.400
there as well. That's another tracking
technique they use, oh for sure.

736
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.280
And I was joking with our friends
during the pandemic. I said, just

737
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.559
leave your phone at home if you
want to come and visit us. I

738
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.679
said, the government's tracking you.
I said, I don't know if you

739
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.480
guys have tim Horton's where you are. It's a coffee shop, but tim

740
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:58.079
Horton's pings your phone about four hundred
times a day to track your location so

741
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:02.039
that they can send you coupons when
they actually just gotta they just had they

742
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:07.000
just had to do a big lawsuit
thing. We're invading people's privacy. But

743
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.920
the government also just admitted that they
were tracking people on their cell phones and

744
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.440
and seeing like if they were obeying
quarantine rules. So you know, it's

745
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.760
a tracking advice, right, Like
this thing is sitting on my desk.

746
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.119
They're they're already listening to us,
right They're they're gonna do whatever they want

747
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:27.920
to do, and that's fine.
I'm not going to censor myself, and

748
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.800
you know, I would prefer them
not listening to my conversations, even though

749
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.920
I don't have anything to hide.
I think that what is it the it's

750
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:40.360
the Patriot Act, Right, the
Patriot Act is the biggest disaster in American

751
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.559
one of the biggest disasters in American
history. That you guys need to like,

752
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:49.039
you need a militia right now just
to get rid of that. Yeah,

753
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.639
that is the biggest infringement on our
rights. But again, when when

754
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:57.119
they perpetrate these things and they induce
fear on the American people like they did

755
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:01.159
September eleventh, Um, I mean, everybody who was alive at that time,

756
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:06.159
you know, seven eight years or
older, remember exactly watching that and

757
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:12.800
the fear based mind trauma that was
brought on the people, and the first

758
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.360
thing, whatever it takes to protect
us, right, And it was the

759
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:20.320
same if you think about it,
if you go back to even before March

760
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.199
of twenty twenty, they were doing
subtle things. I remember right around the

761
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:29.880
Super Bowl they were sending you would
see videos of people in China just collapsing

762
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:35.280
on the ground. And then of
course they're bringing in these big ships that

763
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.159
were going to be floating hospitals,
which of course were never used. But

764
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:42.760
it was a big Hollywood production and
it was twofold. Number one. It

765
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.880
was to take more of our rights. Actually could say it's threefold more of

766
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:51.559
our rights. It was to transfer
power and eliminate the middleman. Of course,

767
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.159
COVID didn't hit Walmart or Amazon,
but all the mom and pop stores

768
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:59.639
had to shut down. And then
of course what did they do best and

769
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:04.559
what is most important to them is
to keep us fighting amongst each other,

770
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:08.079
so it takes the focus off of
them. You know that famous clip with

771
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:12.239
Kevin what's his name? From A
Bug's Life? I played that a lot.

772
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.679
It really resonates with me, you
know, UM, and it takes

773
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:22.960
the focus off them. So it
was really a three pronged sword that is

774
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:27.880
really devastating, and um, look
where we are today. It's it's tough.

775
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.239
Yeah. I think one of the
things that really came through UM in

776
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:38.920
my in my meditations this week was
kindness and really, like I'll say it

777
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:44.119
again, like the way you do
this show, it really helps people,

778
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:51.920
um, you know who who are
inquisitive, who are curious. It gives

779
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:58.599
them a nice place to actually hear
all these different stories and opinions and and

780
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:02.599
realize that we're not the bad guys. We want, you know, our

781
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:12.440
communities to be you know, together, we we want UM as few divisions

782
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.719
as possible. I'm not talking about
like the Tower of Babylon where we all

783
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.440
get together. That to me,
that's the one world government, right,

784
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.119
Like, that's that's their all crazy, you know, you know, for

785
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:28.519
us to all be different, us
have all our different cultures but still come

786
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:34.079
together and still be that ninety nine
percent of awesome, which I know that

787
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:39.239
we are. But we're just so
like their plan is so obvious now,

788
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:43.440
they will do anything. That's why
they call it flat Earthers. That's why

789
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:47.480
the non vaxers like they will do
anything they can to to split us up

790
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:53.719
and all all in the end game, we're we're all just a bunch of

791
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:58.159
souls and we're all just going to
go back where where we came from.

792
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:02.840
And if I can help wake up
even just a few people, because it's

793
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:07.960
so it's so important to look through
the lens that you know, the people

794
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.880
out there at the grocery store,
they're not your enemies. There there's people

795
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:15.440
like like like you and me,
Like they just want to have a good

796
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.199
life, you know, life,
liberty in the pursuit of happiness. That's

797
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:24.360
that's really what it is. Indeed, I think we can make our way

798
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.280
back to flat Earth. I appreciate
your thoughts on that. It's funny you

799
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:32.360
mentioned earlier about Eddie Bravo. David
Weiss actually put out a new video today.

800
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.719
Well, it's not new, it
was when in twenty nineteen when he

801
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.519
was on Info Wars, it was
uh, Sam Tripoli, Um, Alex

802
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:45.679
Jones, Eddie Bravo, and um, David Weiss, and you know,

803
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:50.679
the whole time Alex Jones. I
mean, Dave was really doing a good

804
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.639
job trying to get his point across, and Alex was really being in a

805
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:57.880
clown the entire time. Um.
And I've said, I just did a

806
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.079
podcast a month ago, and I
don't ever there's people out there who go

807
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:04.920
after truths all the time. In
my three years, I've only made a

808
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.039
podcast about one and it's Alex Jones. And you have to understand, Alex

809
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:12.360
Jones is going to give you the
truth to a certain extent. He's not

810
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.519
going to give you the whole truth. And I just thought it was really

811
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:24.360
unusual and showed his wings the ultimate
truth how he made it just ridiculous.

812
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:29.559
The entire time. Dave was doing
a tremendous job trying to present even Eddie

813
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.079
was going after Alex telling him to
shut up and to be quiet, but

814
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:37.400
especially at the end when he was
trying to, you know, give his

815
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.039
final words, it was really ridiculous. And I think it says a lot

816
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.639
about him being controlled. Yeah,
and that's something that I worry about.

817
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:53.920
How much would it take to switch
Eric Dubey and make him control off position,

818
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:57.280
or how how much would it take
to make you, know, to

819
01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:00.000
make you switch and become sure controlled
opposition. I mean we could, like

820
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.719
even me, like, we probably
all have a price. Like if they

821
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:07.920
deposited one hundred million in my bank
account, I mean I'd probably shut up

822
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.440
too, But I mean, at
least if we had this on the record,

823
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:13.719
then I could go live in Mexico
and still have a ton of guilt.

824
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:16.239
But you know, I'm I'm joking, but I mean they can do

825
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:21.519
whatever they want, right, Money's
not even real, like and we all

826
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.880
the road to hell is paid with
good intentions, and we all. I

827
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.960
know my path, and I know
that I'm not on the wrong path.

828
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.760
My path keeps leading me towards God. So that's how I that's my compass,

829
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:38.480
that's how I know that I am
on the right track. Eddie Bravo

830
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:43.480
is an interesting character. He can
do all sorts of amazing things. He's

831
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:45.360
a rock star, he's a comedian, he's a jiu jitsu guy. He

832
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:51.039
loves to talk about flat Earth,
and I wonder if he's controlled opposition too.

833
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.199
I mean, he's super famous,
he's got a big, big platform,

834
01:02:53.880 --> 01:03:00.519
and I just don't understand what Alex
Jones gets from from hype up flat

835
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.159
Earth or destroying flat Earth. It's
to me, it's the why, right,

836
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:10.079
Why why don't they take it seriously? I think David Weiss is very

837
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.519
smart and he presents everything really well, and I think it's detrimental when you

838
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:22.320
go on a show like that where
you know people are you know, don't

839
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.719
take you serious or they don't want
to listen to you. And yeah,

840
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:32.760
it's it's a shame because there's a
lot of really good points and it's like

841
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:39.199
everybody just needs that one silver bullet
to make them to spark their curiosity to

842
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.400
just start digging. I mean,
I would say ninety percent of people are

843
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:50.000
probably too lazy. Like the only
reason I started digging was because you know

844
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:52.639
that was I was just all of
a sudden passionate about just trying to disprove

845
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:59.039
Eddie Bravo with physics and math that
I, you know, wanted to exercise

846
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.400
and next thing, you know,
I couldn't do it. And I'm listening

847
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.679
to Eric Dubay, I'm listening to
your podcast. I'm listening to David Weiss

848
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:13.519
and and all you guys are making
really good points and why you know,

849
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:15.960
we might not be right about everything, and that's fine, but that's what

850
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:20.559
I love about. You know,
anybody that's not control opposition is not scared

851
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:25.480
to say I don't know if I
don't know something, if I don't know

852
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.119
every single thing about the moon.
The moon is magical. We haven't even

853
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:31.440
talked about the moon. To me, I think the moon is is even

854
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:36.199
more important than than flat Earth.
It's like, this thing is incredible.

855
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:41.119
I I got laughed out of a
room because I was saying that the moon

856
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:45.719
has its own lights. But I
mean, we know, we know,

857
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.400
like we're we know what we're taught. We're taught that it's reflecting the Sun's

858
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:54.880
light, right, But that's ridiculous. And think about how magical the moon

859
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:59.000
is. And if we if we
had this lunar calendar that you and me

860
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:02.440
had discussed in the email together,
and you know, each phase of the

861
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.760
moon shows us, you know,
the month. The moon tells us the

862
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:11.239
month, the sun tells us the
time of the day. The constellations and

863
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.760
the stars. They're for guidance and
for seasons and to let us know,

864
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:19.920
like the sky is to basically our
clock, right, And if we didn't

865
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:26.559
have these devices on our hands,
and you know, we just used nature,

866
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.639
We used our senses to know one
to wake up and when to go

867
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.760
to bed, Like how in tune? Like how different would we be as

868
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:38.199
a species and how would we live
our lives differently if we didn't have watches

869
01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.840
and we you know, like it
would make sense, like the women's cycles

870
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:46.760
with the moon, and like there's
a lot of incredible things out there and

871
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.519
they're being thrown in the garbage because
we put a bunch of astronauts on there

872
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:55.079
and now we have to live this
gigantic lie. To me, that's an

873
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:58.800
atrocity. Yeah, I couldn't agree
more. And I think that they do

874
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.559
a lot of these things intentionally,
like going from a thirteen months twenty eight

875
01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:09.280
day calendar, which our systems are
you know, used to, to all

876
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:13.039
these random twelve months one has thirty
one days, one has twenty eight days,

877
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.119
someone has thirty days. I think
it is to keep us out of

878
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:20.000
sync with nature. And uh,
you know, animals they know they're up

879
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.519
in the my chickens as soon as
the sun cracks the sky, they're they're

880
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:27.880
they're bouncing around ready to go.
And back in the day before they had

881
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.800
alarm clocks, um, people would
wake up. They I don't know how

882
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.360
they did it, if they had
firewatch or something, but I mean people

883
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:38.679
knew it was time to get up
and they started their day first thing in

884
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.880
the morning. They didn't always have
alarm clocks, you know, through time.

885
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:47.320
So that's that's a tremendous point for
sure, and I love you know,

886
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.199
I'll hype it here right now for
David West is app that flat Earth

887
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:56.960
map to me, it's so interesting
watching um the sun and where it is

888
01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:00.400
and high noon is you know hot
high noon the sun is at the highest

889
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:05.280
point of the during the day depending
on the season, and then you have

890
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:10.840
the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn in
it, and it does the like the

891
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:15.960
infinity sign the figure eight between the
seasons, and I just thought, man,

892
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.559
that is so amazing and I'm like, I can't believe they don't teach

893
01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:24.920
us in school in physics class in
grade eleven, and I remember this like

894
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.880
it was yesterday, and it was
probably twenty five years ago, which is

895
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:33.360
kind of embarrassing. But I was
asking my teacher how it could be possible

896
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:39.280
that the sun is further from us
in the summer and closer during the winter,

897
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:44.360
and all he had for me was
that the axis, and like,

898
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:47.760
that's that's insane, Like we're literally
closer. And then I was listening to

899
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:50.760
one of your other episodes, and
I lived near the mountains, and I'm

900
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:55.320
telling you, with the elevation,
if I'm in the mountains, I'm getting

901
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:58.079
cooked by that sun. And I'm
just, you know, a thousand feet

902
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:04.280
higher than sea level, right,
so we're we're at four thousand feet,

903
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:08.000
and if I can get up to
eight thousand feet, I'm telling you where

904
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:12.360
you can feel how much stronger the
sun is. Thank you for saying that

905
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.679
exactly, because I made that point, like I think that within the first

906
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.399
ten or twelve episodes of the podcast, where I had said when I was

907
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:25.359
stationed at four Carson in Colorado,
I remember we had a neighborhood picnic and

908
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:30.640
it was like May mid May,
maybe and it wasn't a particularly warm day,

909
01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:33.880
maybe seventy eight or eighty degrees,
and I got cooked. I was

910
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:36.600
out there in in just a T
shirt, and I was out there for

911
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:40.560
two or three hours, and I
got cooked. And then when you think

912
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:45.600
in retrospect, we'll wait a second. If the sun is truly ninety three

913
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:49.640
million miles away, would a couple
of thousand feet really make a difference.

914
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:58.720
These are the things that you did. That calculation to ninety three million miles?

915
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:02.199
How many how many feet is that
right? How many bazillions? It's

916
01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:08.760
it's people, we're begging you to
please wake up, please, like these

917
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:13.000
numbers are ludicrous. The sun So
another another big wake up moment for me

918
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.520
with Eric Dubay is the sun and
the moon, the ying and the yang,

919
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:23.319
they're pretty much the same size in
the sky. That's like, what

920
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:27.920
what kind of a coincidence is that? Right? Like, that's impossible that

921
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.840
the moon and the like, it's
all there in Genesis. You open it

922
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.880
up, page one. God created
the sun's rule the day and the moon's

923
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:39.600
rule the night, and it's right
there. And anybody that tells you that

924
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:45.159
it's a myth believes that everything came
from nothing, the Big Bang, Like

925
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:49.159
that is the most ridiculous, Like, seriously, snap out of it.

926
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:54.800
This is the biggest myth ever,
the Big Bang, that everything came from

927
01:09:54.840 --> 01:10:00.000
nothing is so crazy if you just
stop and think about it for a minute,

928
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:05.359
Like God created everything, and it
doesn't matter what professor out there says

929
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:12.000
that it's wrong. They'll they'll meet
their maker in the end, indeed,

930
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.359
and I feel bad for them.
Yeah, And that's again one of the

931
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:19.119
reasons why we homeschool, because they
do push this stuff. And now school

932
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:26.600
has become just a breeding ground for
for these progressives and it's not what it

933
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.000
used to be. They don't really
teach critical thinking, and that is very

934
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:32.680
very important to me. And like
you said, Genesis one, chapter six

935
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:38.079
or sorry, chapter one, verse
sixteen says, and God made two great

936
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:43.359
lights. Okay, he didn't say
he made one powerful, all powerful light

937
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.520
that was so bright that it shone
a reflection upon the moon. It's very

938
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:56.439
very distinct to say that it is
its own light. And it was so

939
01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:00.359
and a story. God made two
great lights, wonderful the day one rule

940
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.920
the night again the lesser because obviously
the sun is more powerful than the moon,

941
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:09.039
and it has its cycle, and
it's just like you said, it

942
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:15.399
is one of the most intriguing and
most you know, glorious things that God

943
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:20.119
made for us. For sure.
It's a really interesting breadcrumb something that just

944
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:24.439
and it's so little, but it
really excited me. Was I just looked

945
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:30.039
up the definition of luminary and you
go in there and it says a celestial

946
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.279
body like the sun and the moon. So even under the definition of luminary,

947
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:38.600
they will tell you right there that
the moon has its own light.

948
01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:45.600
And I thought that was such a
neat little breadcrumb that you know, they're

949
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:50.760
they're totally going against what they say
right where where it's this magic rock reflecting

950
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:56.119
sunlight? Like that's come on,
guys, you know what's funny, Alex.

951
01:11:56.199 --> 01:12:01.119
I did the same thing. In
the Oxford Dictionary. It says number

952
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:08.000
one is a noun which is a
person who inspires. Okay, right,

953
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:12.920
iluma. But number two, like
you said, it says a natural live

954
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:16.640
I'm sorry, a natural light giving
body, especially the sun or moon.

955
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:23.359
But it has the little warning above
it it says archaic. Oh geez,

956
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:28.399
there there's the controllers right there.
You just need an older dictionary then,

957
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.680
yep. Just like you know,
on Wikipedia, if you look up flat

958
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:33.920
Earth, it's got or on any
of Dave's videos, it's got the big

959
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:40.399
Wikipedia warning on it. It's archaic, right right. You know, I

960
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.119
know that we're not on the Fact
hundred podcast right now, but if we

961
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:46.520
could get into not today, but
if if we ever did chat again,

962
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:51.960
it would be so cool to talk
about ancient architecture and how they harnessed energy,

963
01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:56.760
yes, and free energy, right, like Nicola Tesla is talking about

964
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.520
that, the cathedral things, the
things that they've covered up in history really

965
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:06.640
intrigued me because I don't feel anymore
like we are we are getting ahead.

966
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:13.680
We're it's almost like we're going backwards
with architecture and it's uh yeah, it's

967
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:17.319
it's almost like destimulating the way they're
building our cities. Yeah, you know,

968
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:20.520
we could talk about things like Actually, something that day brought up today

969
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:25.239
that reminded me was the uh I
think it's called the angkor Wat, which

970
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:29.439
is down in Cambodia, not down
in Comota, over in Cambodia. Um.

971
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.920
It's one of the biggest structures in
the world and it was built in

972
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:38.119
the I think the twelfth century.
And again there's no way we could build

973
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:43.159
anything like this today, right,
or the or I mean just the Pyramids

974
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.319
alone, how incredible. It's.
Uh, you know, that's on my

975
01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:49.600
bucket list of things of things to
see it in my lifetime is to go

976
01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:54.960
and see the Pyramids. I mean, that's it's incredible. Yeah. I

977
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:58.119
was lucky to see the zigger out
of her when I was in Iraq,

978
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.760
and I was very the first morning
we woke up in Iraq, we were

979
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:06.039
pretty close to where the Tigris and
Euphrates met, and you know, I

980
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:11.359
was all over Iraq and a lot
of it's it's funny we called it this,

981
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:15.840
but we called it moon dust because
there's certain parts of Iraq that the

982
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:21.560
dust was like baby powder and it
was awful. You could never stay clean.

983
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:25.960
Every step you took it was just
powder. Literally walking in six inches

984
01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.399
of baby powder. It was like, um. But yeah, it's there's

985
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:34.479
a that was definitely a special feeling
when you're around um, certain places like

986
01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:41.359
that, and I'm sure you would
have that same feeling around the Pyramids for

987
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:45.600
sure. And there's like where we
live. I believe, like Lake Louise

988
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:50.520
is a is a huge energetic vortex. I don't know how into those kinds

989
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:54.920
of things you are, Like,
I know, in uh Siona, I

990
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:59.640
believe it's Sidona has some type of
energetic vortex there. There's a lot of

991
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:01.640
I mean, there's a lot of
tourism there. We were we were just

992
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:09.560
there probably last month and it was
overwhelming. But it's it's a neat area

993
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:13.520
to be in energetically. And there's
these different places in the world. I

994
01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:17.520
mean telling you, there's so many. It's great that we're having this great

995
01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:24.199
awakening because it's forcing a lot of
people to reconnect. I actually believe that

996
01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:28.479
our children are way more spiritually connected
than we are. Even I feel like

997
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.279
we're almost like having to d program
and then get more in touch with our

998
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:38.479
our spirituality after you know how many
years of uh you know, propaganda on

999
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:44.560
the TV and and those things.
But yeah, my daughters they're very in

1000
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:48.039
tune with with the world and they
can they can feel things very differently than

1001
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.640
us. And um, I mean
that's an interesting subject too. Were you

1002
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:58.479
talking about the Sedona healing vortex in
Arizona? That's correct? Yeah, Oh

1003
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:03.760
you're you're in Arizona just a recently. Yeah, we drove Yeah, we

1004
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:08.119
uh we got in the car and
we drove twenty three hours to be to

1005
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:10.600
go see. Uh. It was
a great drive. You know, when

1006
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.479
you're locked in your house for two
years, you don't mind a nice We

1007
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:16.560
love traveling too well. We don't
like flying too much. Back in the

1008
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.880
day used to be a lot of
fun. It was special to fly and

1009
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:23.920
they it was fun. But now
it's just my goodness, just like you're

1010
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:28.960
a prisoner on con air when you're
gone through everything. Yeah, yeah,

1011
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.840
exactly, did you I been in
some pretty bad airports in my day.

1012
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:36.359
Oh yeah, it's and the people
today, it's just interesting people. Did

1013
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:43.279
you feel a particular energy while you
were there? No, actually I didn't

1014
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.359
because it's very high joke, it's
very peopally like in Canada. If you

1015
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.319
came to visit us here and we
went to Lake Louise, we could probably

1016
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:55.000
get to a place where there would
be nobody and you could actually like be

1017
01:16:55.159 --> 01:17:00.399
with nature and um, you know, really like sit down a minute tape

1018
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.479
with that and try and and try
and have an experience where where we are

1019
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:06.760
and you know, not to Noxydona. We were where all the tourists were

1020
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:11.159
and we didn't really get out onto
the trails and you know, try and

1021
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:15.680
have those experiences. I bet you
there's some amazing things there. And I

1022
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.279
regret not doing it. We just
didn't have the time. Um, we

1023
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:23.359
were just more in the town.
But I think I think it would be

1024
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.079
worth it. But I mean,
I got my own vortex here, like

1025
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.359
not even an hour away, so
nice. I can always do it.

1026
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:33.279
Yeah, and it's uh, it's
beautiful here and where we are. What

1027
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:36.680
haven't we touched on that? I'm
sorry, go ahead. I was gonna

1028
01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:41.000
say one of my goals this summer
is to climb one of the mountains and

1029
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:45.079
then I'll send you a picture of
as far as the eye, as far

1030
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:48.000
as the eye can see. And
we were we were joking about the horizon

1031
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:51.800
being like a paper roll towel where
it doesn't actually curve on the sides.

1032
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:55.880
It just kind of it's supposed to
just curve over in front of you.

1033
01:17:56.359 --> 01:18:00.199
I just I thought that that was
hilarious. Yeah, I'll be getting back

1034
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:02.479
to Colorado Springs sooner or later,
and I definitely, well, we'll do

1035
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.479
the man a two mile and take
a picture. It's just amazing. I'll

1036
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:09.800
make sure it's a clear day and
we've gotten so many great pictures from people,

1037
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:12.840
and again, you guys can jump
in the chat room and see.

1038
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:16.399
Eventually, I need to make an
additional page on the website so I can

1039
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.199
post them and put people's name in
location where they're from, and they could

1040
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:24.079
stay there because obviously the chat room
people are gonna type and it's going to

1041
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:30.000
disappear. But yeah, it's just
that when you really stop and use your

1042
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:33.880
senses, you realize that, you
know, it is unball lievable. It

1043
01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:43.720
is just the greatest lie. And
there's been some whoppers right from the moon

1044
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:48.279
to Iraq. I mean, the
evil. There's so much evil in this

1045
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:53.640
world. But it's good that we
focus on the lighter side. And I've

1046
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:56.319
gotten so many emails that the flat
earth, like you said, has brought

1047
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.760
not just a god, which is
obviously the most important. But even with

1048
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:04.359
with family members, we hear with
COVID you did, and I know I

1049
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:10.159
did. It was very divisive.
It was a very divisive, especially that

1050
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:15.239
first year, and everybody was asking
every just are you vaccinated? Like all

1051
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.720
of a sudden, everybody's you know, medical history was public knowledge. People

1052
01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:23.880
would ask me, um, uh, you know, are you vaccinated?

1053
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.880
And I would say, uh,
um, what's the word. I don't

1054
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:30.359
know, I'm having a brain cramp
of what's the word. When you're you're

1055
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:33.680
snipped, when you're you're a mail
and you go get the operation, Yeah,

1056
01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:36.479
I said, I don't know,
if you've gotten a vasectomy or something

1057
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:39.680
like that, and they would look
at me like yeah, and then kind

1058
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:42.800
of I was joking too. I
was up dating my Facebook status with I'm

1059
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:47.640
going for my colonoscopy today. But
you don't just our medical status now exactly

1060
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:53.560
anybody. It's just it was.
It was so irrational, the whole thing.

1061
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:58.960
But this does this is um.
Obviously, if we could reverse this

1062
01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:04.760
lie, I think it certainly drop
a great veil upon mankind and people would

1063
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:08.279
truly see the evil for what it
is. But at the same time,

1064
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:14.239
while we are converting people, or
at least bringing them in and allowing folks

1065
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:16.479
to hopefully just let their guard down
for a minute to look into it,

1066
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:21.199
when they do, you know,
come across the flat earth that is I'm

1067
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:26.640
telling you of the people are just
great, tremendous people. I thought when

1068
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:30.520
I got into this, I was
going to get mostly trolley emails. Everybody's

1069
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:32.960
been wonderful. It's a great community. We all have our you know,

1070
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.239
varying opinions, but at the end
of the day, it is just a

1071
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:42.920
tremendous community with great people and a
lot of faith based folks and it's just

1072
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.760
wonderful. Yeah. I think one
of the big points to you I wanted

1073
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:53.560
to make is the school system,
the professors, the left, which is

1074
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:59.479
you know, communism. We talked
about um My off air. We were

1075
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:02.319
talking about grandparents and how they're from
Russia and they escaped communism. But there's

1076
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:10.159
nothing the communism likes more than taking
you away from God. And this globe

1077
01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:15.840
I would say that the globe is
a perfect representation of taking you away from

1078
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.960
God. The Big Bang theory takes
you away from God, takes you away

1079
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:26.119
from the Creator. I'm no religious
expert. I mean I love studying Exodus

1080
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:32.199
and Genesis and I'm still learning.
But anything that brings you closer is good,

1081
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:38.760
and anything that takes you away is
not good. And communism. I

1082
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:43.960
always thought that communism was a conspiracy
theory, that it could never ever come

1083
01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:50.399
to America. And what we have
been seeing is unbelievable what people are doing,

1084
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:54.840
and it tells and I always say
that the road to Hell is paid

1085
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:58.800
with good intentions, and I will
keep saying that. And anybody who drinks

1086
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:02.520
the Communist kool aid, if you
drink the if you read the Communist manifesto,

1087
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:11.079
it it's this veil and it sounds
so great, and if done correctly,

1088
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:15.920
you'll live in this paradise. And
I'm telling you it's all garbage.

1089
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:19.279
And it doesn't matter, because it
doesn't matter what your opinion is. I

1090
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:26.520
know that it's garbage. It's a
fact. Nobody can accomplish it correctly because

1091
01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:30.199
of human nature. If you understand
human nature, if you study human nature,

1092
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:35.479
if you study Exodus, I mean, you can perform miracles over and

1093
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:40.359
over again, but if the people
don't have faith, they'll just keep asking

1094
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:45.239
you to perform another miracle in front
of them. And you know, I'm

1095
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:48.920
just trying to tie all these things
together. It's just so important to understand

1096
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:55.600
human nature, why we do things. We're like the Trinity, right,

1097
01:22:55.640 --> 01:23:00.680
we're spiritual, were of mind and
we're of body, and so many of

1098
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.880
us are lacking the spirit and realizing
how important that spirit is. Our mind

1099
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:10.039
and our body are great there.
You know, we're in this animal body

1100
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:13.239
on this planet, but our soul
got put here, you know, to

1101
01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:16.439
drive this body around and give us
free will so that we can do incredible

1102
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:24.800
things. And I think that I'm
just so blessed that blat Earth gave me

1103
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:31.760
this epiphany in September that I am
actually special, like I was born for

1104
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:35.880
a reason, and all the things
that happened to me or for me,

1105
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:40.560
you know, helped me along this
journey. But all along the way,

1106
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:45.920
I don't make excuses learn I learn
from things, I build upon them,

1107
01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:51.239
I acquire more tools, I meet
incredible people like you, and we keep

1108
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:58.960
going forward and we just Yeah,
how incredible is life that you and me

1109
01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:01.119
are talking on this podcast as right
now. Like to me, that's one

1110
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:05.520
of the best things about COVID is
I met so many people just from zoom

1111
01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:10.039
And how how good are we at
at connecting Now we don't even have to

1112
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.880
be in the same room, but
you know, we can always stay in

1113
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.760
touch now and I know that we
had that with email, but now things

1114
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:20.319
are are just getting easier and easier. And I think that there's a lot

1115
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:25.399
of good that came out in the
last two years and I will continue to

1116
01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:30.800
hold that dear to me that it
was that time where you know, we

1117
01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:34.720
had to get stronger and we survived
it, and now we are better.

1118
01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:39.439
It's like we went through this insane
workout and now we're just stronger and better

1119
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:45.960
and going forward we will continue to
do. You know, God's work extremely

1120
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:49.279
well said. And when you were
talking about that, you couldn't believe the

1121
01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:53.600
things that you were seeing in America
as many of us couldn't. It took

1122
01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:56.920
me back to G. Michael Hopp
in his book Those Who Remain. He

1123
01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:02.119
said, hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times, good

1124
01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:06.319
times create weak men, and weak
men create hard times. So there's this

1125
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.479
vicious cycle. If you just look
over the last one hundred years, that

1126
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.560
cycle is indeed good times. You
know, you're you're just like anything else.

1127
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:18.119
You know, the guy hits a
lottery, he's rich, he doesn't

1128
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:20.920
work anymore, he eats and drinks
all day, he's three hundred pounds,

1129
01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:25.159
has a heart attack, he's back
on hard times. It's a very vicious

1130
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:30.119
cycle. And that's why important in
life. You have to try to keep

1131
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.359
everything level, never get too high, never get too low. You're gonna

1132
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:36.000
have good days and bad days,
and try to keep everything even keel.

1133
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:40.600
And that that's kind of the mantra
I've tried to live by over the last

1134
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:45.119
few years. Yeah, and you
build, you build. We are rebuilding

1135
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.479
our tribe right now, whether we
like it or not. It was it

1136
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:51.319
was a crazy two years and it's
and I think we'll rebuild our tribes bigger

1137
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:57.720
and better. I honestly believe that
there's there's a lot of really good people

1138
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.479
out there. And what they wanted
us to think believe was that there that

1139
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:05.439
there wasn't that we were just so
there's so few and far between us.

1140
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:11.399
And when we went to that trucker
convoy, it was incredible how so many

1141
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:16.079
people in Canada came together and and
did that. And I mean it scared

1142
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:18.680
our Prime minister so bad you had
to go hide and pretend he had COVID

1143
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:24.640
any remember that in some cabin And
it was probably the funniest thing I had

1144
01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:28.159
ever seen. By the way,
kudos for you. Doudn't mean to jump

1145
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:30.960
in, but kudos for you to
do that, because I heard all the

1146
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.000
stories of people whose banks were taken
away and they had a gift, send

1147
01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:39.560
go or something and all the money
was hijacked. And again, you guys,

1148
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:44.079
A lot of people think you guys
have the exact same freedoms we do.

1149
01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:45.600
Um, you don't. I don't
think you even have the same freedom

1150
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.600
of speech laws we have, which
again it's on paper we do, but

1151
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:55.520
they we're losing them every day.
Yeah, it's really important to note that

1152
01:26:56.119 --> 01:27:00.640
they played their hand. When we
talk about overplaying your hand, that's overplaying

1153
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.720
your hand. If you are going
to be a tyrannical government and shut down

1154
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:09.880
people's bank accounts, that's I mean, you've crossed so many lines there.

1155
01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:15.760
I am trying to figure out how, especially with Bill C eleven, I

1156
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:24.279
would love to communicate with as many
people as possible about no longer paying income

1157
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:28.039
tax. And I'm not even joking
when I say that, I honestly don't

1158
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:32.880
think that the mafia government deserves a
penny of ours if they're gonna if we're

1159
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.600
running a deficit, I mean,
you guys have a deficit. I mean

1160
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:40.359
we have a one trillion dollar deficit, which is unheard of, and we're

1161
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:45.039
going to start giving money to Ukraine
and doing all these ridiculous things. Well,

1162
01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:49.680
and I know we're getting off topic
with flat earth, but all these

1163
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:54.479
things kind of tie together there.
We're living, Are we free? Are

1164
01:27:54.479 --> 01:28:00.920
we free? Or are we like
victims of a mafia government. And I

1165
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:04.000
think that we need to make some
major changes because if they're just going to

1166
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:09.239
print money, then they don't need
my money. Now, that's the eleven

1167
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:14.920
was just passed like officially a few
days ago, right, yeah, just

1168
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:19.359
and it I'm pretty sure most people
here will think it's a conspiracy theory,

1169
01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:26.920
that that's not really going to happen, and it's it's terrifying, Like everybody

1170
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:30.000
needs to know that they are passing
these things, just like the Patriot Act.

1171
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:38.279
They like Edward Snowden blew the whistle
and did anything change. Like that's

1172
01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:42.479
the part that really bothers me.
When a guy sticks his neck out like

1173
01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:47.119
that basically ruins his life and you
know, has to has to go live

1174
01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:49.600
in Russia. I don't know what
it's, you know what the real deal

1175
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:54.359
is there, But I mean,
obviously he uprooted his life to let people

1176
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:58.279
know that the government is listening to
them. These are these are big things,

1177
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:02.520
and then when we don't re act, they realize that they can get

1178
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:08.560
away with more and they can push
more, and we need to not let

1179
01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:12.079
that happen anymore. I realized that
most of us are middle class. But

1180
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.319
you know what, if they keep
squeezing us, we're not gonna be middle

1181
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:24.039
class anymore. And you know the
I mean the rich people, yeah,

1182
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:28.640
God bless him, but I mean
you still need the middle class and lower

1183
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:31.159
class people to work hard and keep
building, you know, the country.

1184
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:36.199
You can't just like dump everybody in
the trash. Indeed, it's I'm looking

1185
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:44.039
at the bill and it's interesting.
Pardon me. It was originally presented on

1186
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:48.840
the anniversary of of JFK eleven twenty
two, twenty twenty one. Lots of

1187
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:54.239
numerology in this bill. It's C
eleven, Yeah, eleven, twenty two,

1188
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:57.720
and it is the forty fourth Parliament, so that is just eleven's all

1189
01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:02.119
over the place. And I don't
know much about this bill, but is

1190
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:08.680
this kind of does this mirror like
the Smith Modernization Act that we had back

1191
01:30:08.720 --> 01:30:14.159
in twenty twelve where it allowed the
federal government to use propaganda against its own

1192
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:20.199
people. From what I understand from
the bill, it can censor anything on

1193
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:27.079
YouTube that it's basically China, right, It's like China's version of Google.

1194
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:29.920
If they don't want you to see
it, Google is not going to show

1195
01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:34.319
it to you. And Google's already
bad, and like Duck Duck Go is

1196
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:38.840
terrible already. I don't know if
you've noticed these things, but I mean

1197
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:43.319
I work in SEO, and when
I do searches, like research on anything,

1198
01:30:43.439 --> 01:30:47.840
lately, you know good search engine
optimization. Google's job is to get

1199
01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:53.680
you the most reliable, best credited
source number one and I just have not

1200
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:58.079
been seeing that lately. And I
don't know what's going on over there,

1201
01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:03.720
but it leaves me scratching my head
that things are aren't nefarious. And when

1202
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:08.279
we start like, okay, so
here's a great example, not to get

1203
01:31:08.279 --> 01:31:14.279
too off topic, but pornography,
child pornography. How can they like let

1204
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:18.279
this stuff happen and go? And
then meanwhile, you know the Fact Hunter

1205
01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:21.960
podcast, Oh you mentioned COVID,
we're going to slap a label on it

1206
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:26.960
and we're gonna censor it, but
you know, go for it. With

1207
01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:30.439
all the child pornography, it's all
good. And that's to me, that

1208
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:34.399
is just insane. Or mentioned Ted
Kazinski in the title of your podcast and

1209
01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:47.079
it gets pulled complete right to it. It's it's incredible. So, um,

1210
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:51.600
I had a question for you because
I really wanted to know how your

1211
01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:56.800
Flat Earth Journey started, and I
don't know if you mentioned it on any

1212
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.760
of the previous ones, but I
wanted to. I wanted to know what

1213
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:03.680
you're like, aha aha moment Like
for me, it was the North Star

1214
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:06.840
and the stars turn it around.
I just thought, how can the rest

1215
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:12.319
be happening right as a you know
somebody who loves physics. Well, I

1216
01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:16.439
had already been hipped to you awake
to everything else from nine to eleven to

1217
01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:21.960
the Gulf of Tonkin, And I
read Dave McGowan's book about the scenes from

1218
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:27.279
the sixties and how every single one
of these huge bands from the sixties were

1219
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:31.920
all connected from the same neighborhood and
all their parents were intelligence agents. From

1220
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:38.840
The Grateful Dead to the Doors.
Jim Morrison's dad was the admiral on the

1221
01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:43.600
USS Maddox, which was the boat
involved in the Gulf of Tonkin which led

1222
01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:46.319
to fifty eight thousand young men and
women getting sent to their death in Vietnam,

1223
01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:49.199
and six months later, you know, his son is the biggest name

1224
01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:54.760
in the music industry. So I
had really been all the way down,

1225
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:58.920
but I never i'd come across a
video on YouTube. I'd go right past

1226
01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:00.840
it. I was like, come
on. I mean, I mean there's

1227
01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:05.119
you know, there's conspiracy theories and
then there's just crazy people. And I

1228
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:10.159
wouldn't give it a second thought.
But you know, shortly into my fact

1229
01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:14.760
tunn, I got an email three
years ago or so, three or four

1230
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.359
years ago, and it was from
a guy named David Weiss. And I

1231
01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:20.199
opened it up and he said,
Hey, my name's David Weiss. I'm

1232
01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:24.479
a flat earther and I'd love to
come on your podcast. And I like

1233
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:30.199
laughed and I deleted it. And
it was something where it was eating away

1234
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:33.279
at me all night, because I
always tell people send me your emails,

1235
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:36.520
and I literally do respond to just
about everybody. I mean, if you're

1236
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:39.600
just rude to me, I'm not
going to respond to you. But he

1237
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:42.479
was very cordial, and it was
eating away at me, so I said,

1238
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:45.680
I'm just gonna I went turned my
computer back on. It was that

1239
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:47.800
night or the next day, you
know, went to the trash bin.

1240
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:51.840
You know, I didn't delete the
trash so I pulled it back out and

1241
01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:55.039
there was a link I was going
to reply. I saw a link.

1242
01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:58.880
I said, well, let me
just see what's going on. And I

1243
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:03.880
think it was the conversation that he
had with Crow Triple seven. I know

1244
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:09.640
it's one of his most viewed videos
and it was probably from twenty seventeen,

1245
01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:14.880
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. So
I was doing something in the house,

1246
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:17.439
working in the garage. I just
popped my headphones on a hit play Let's

1247
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:23.000
just see what's going on? And
then it was we can see too far

1248
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:27.800
started talking about it didn't just per
miled squared. I started doing a little

1249
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:33.600
bit of math and m and then
the thing that really resonated with me was

1250
01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:36.279
again, I had no idea.
If you want to ask twenty fifteen,

1251
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:41.119
twenty eighteen, George, how far
the sun away or I'm sorry, how

1252
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:45.239
far the sun was away from us? I couldn't tell you. But when

1253
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.760
I found out it was ninety three
million. And I remember I was living

1254
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:53.920
by the Dover Air Force Base.
I walked outside, looked up and you

1255
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:57.800
could see the rays coming through the
class. I'm like, that's how could

1256
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:01.880
they come out at that far of
an angle if it was night or you

1257
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:05.920
know. None of it made sense
to me and I started to question it.

1258
01:35:05.960 --> 01:35:09.399
And then of course the moon is
a big one too, like you

1259
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:13.000
said, And the more I went
down the rabbit hole. We set up

1260
01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:15.000
the interview. I emailed him back
because I was intrigued within the first twenty

1261
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.479
four hours of watching videos and doing
a little reading. We set up an

1262
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:23.399
interview two weeks later, and by
that time I had done nothing for two

1263
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:28.439
weeks except consuming this information, and
I was like a schoolgirl when I met

1264
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:31.199
him. I was so excited to
talk. He was a little disappointed because

1265
01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:35.760
he likes turning globers and two flat
earthers. But at that point I had

1266
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:40.520
done all the math and research,
and we lived by the beach. We

1267
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:44.399
can be at the beach in thirty
minutes and sure enough, you get a

1268
01:35:44.399 --> 01:35:46.399
strong enough piece of glass and you
can pull these things back in over the

1269
01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:53.199
horizon and you sit down. I
remember, I'd always had I've always had

1270
01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:57.920
sorry, I've always had a relationship
with God. But then you know,

1271
01:35:57.960 --> 01:36:01.520
I sat back down and read Genesis
again and it all clicked, it all

1272
01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:05.640
made sense, and then you realize, sorry, go ahead, I was

1273
01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:10.760
gonna say when I read a Genesis
again like it was my first time in

1274
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:14.920
September, and then I realized that
that was the truth, that was my

1275
01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:18.399
epiphany, and the thing that really
upset me is how far away I got

1276
01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:25.119
from believing that absolutely yep, yep. And I was kind of disappointed in

1277
01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:30.439
myself because during my time in the
army, I was either deployed or you

1278
01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:32.560
know, I worked in twelve hour
days. When I came home, I

1279
01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:36.479
was not very interested in my older
daughter's schoolwork. My wife was kind of

1280
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:40.880
she would keep an eye on that. And then you realize, my goodness,

1281
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:44.920
she's already you know, she's graduated
and off and she's had twelve years

1282
01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:49.439
of this uh indoctrination. You know, she's getting pushed the you know,

1283
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:56.279
the Big Bang theory and evolution and
dinosaurs and these type of things that just

1284
01:36:56.479 --> 01:37:00.199
don't add up. So we took
it to heart. And then it was

1285
01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.800
the same time when when COVID kicked
off, and it was the first day

1286
01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:08.279
my daughter's home, you know,
on zoom and the teacher's talking and I'm

1287
01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:12.239
in there listening. I'm like,
this is just it and it's weird,

1288
01:37:12.319 --> 01:37:15.399
like the David Weiss interview and COVID
and everything was like all within a matter

1289
01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:20.159
of weeks, and I changed my
life and we started homeschooling. Uh,

1290
01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:25.000
we started searching for lands, you
know, so we could raise our own

1291
01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:30.960
food. It's just one of those
things that again, we are here for

1292
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:33.319
a reason and things happen for a
reason. None of this is an accident.

1293
01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:38.760
And uh, you know, people
always try to say Dave is a

1294
01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:43.760
shill this and that David Weiss changed
my life. That's all I can say.

1295
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:46.239
Yeah, I like to look at
things as blessings, like even if

1296
01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:49.600
it's um, even if it's a
bad thing like a COVID in a lockdown,

1297
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:55.319
I tried to find the good that
came from it. And I've done

1298
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:57.760
that with every part of my life. It's like, what what is the

1299
01:37:57.800 --> 01:38:00.000
tool, you know, what?
What is the strength that I'm going to

1300
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.159
get? What is the lesson that
I'm gonna get from from this? And

1301
01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:06.760
like I said, I'll give a
huge shout out to the government for making

1302
01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:10.840
it so that I don't trust them
anymore. I was laughing the other day

1303
01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:14.680
when Trudeau was saying, oh,
you anti vaxers, and I'm like,

1304
01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:15.800
I'm not an anti vaxer. I
got the H one, N one,

1305
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:19.399
I got twin recks, I got
all my shots. And then I'm like,

1306
01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:21.319
well, I'm not. I guess
I'm not gonna get this one.

1307
01:38:21.359 --> 01:38:25.520
And I'm probably not going to get
any more vaccines ever again. So oh

1308
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:27.520
yeah, okay, thanks, Well, I guess you made me an anti

1309
01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:30.119
vax I guess I am an anti
vaxer. Now it's but it's your fault.

1310
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:34.319
You know, your your lies,
you your inconvenient lies, and now

1311
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:39.239
he's backpedaling and gaslighting people. It's
like, dude, I don't think you

1312
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:45.319
understand how many people you woke up
because you just you just couldn't keep it

1313
01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:48.399
together. You know, you had
to overplay your hand, and that's a

1314
01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:53.239
blessing. That's a huge blessing for
us all. I think it would have

1315
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:57.239
been different if they would have said, listen, um that the guys at

1316
01:38:57.279 --> 01:39:00.640
Fiser and Merk have done a tremendous
job and we think this is the best

1317
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:05.199
avenue. But we understand if you're
hesitant. I wonder if more people would

1318
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.439
have been like, well, they
seem honest about it, right, because

1319
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:10.399
they're they're saying, listen, if
you want to take it, fine,

1320
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:14.239
if not, we understand, but
we really think this is the best avenue.

1321
01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:16.600
And if you have some doctors standing
there and not in their head and

1322
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:19.359
everything, I think more people would
have done it. But when you have

1323
01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:25.560
something that you claim is a magical
elixir but you still have to bribe people

1324
01:39:25.640 --> 01:39:30.880
on top of it to take it, then people obviously know that because anything

1325
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:35.560
that's that good will sell itself exactly. If it works, you don't even

1326
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:42.840
need marketing. It's like milk,
right, yeah, it does milk even

1327
01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:45.000
need commercials. No, they're just
going you buy milk, you go buy

1328
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:50.399
eggs, like like if something works, like we were just in Phoenix and

1329
01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:56.720
it is incredible. The like in
Canada, we don't have commercials for pharmaceuticals.

1330
01:39:57.199 --> 01:40:00.680
You're in America. I can't believe
how any insane commercials there were.

1331
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:05.439
And it's like a side effects include
death and bleeding from your enus. I'm

1332
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:10.359
like, what this is, like
worse than the disease. The only two

1333
01:40:10.399 --> 01:40:14.720
countries in the world that are allowed
to have, you know, pharmacy to

1334
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:18.880
consumer direct commercials at the United States
and New Zealand. I get people all

1335
01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:21.640
the time. We have friends who
live in Ecuador. They came home to

1336
01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:26.479
visit their family. They're like,
what has gone on? They had something

1337
01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:30.359
for hair loss and it was forty
five seconds of side effects? You know,

1338
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:34.840
all of the commercials here are the
same thing. They're people walking in

1339
01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:40.199
slow motion, smiling, and it's
fifteen seconds of what it might help you

1340
01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:44.520
with and then forty five seconds of
death stroke. You know, fingers fall

1341
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.239
off, cross eyed, bell's pausy, one thing after another, right,

1342
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:58.319
And I think I was really disappointed
in our Canadian doctors and nurses because they're

1343
01:40:58.359 --> 01:41:02.640
not like incentified, incentivized like they
are in America. And America. It's

1344
01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:05.800
almost like, you're the doctors are
like drug dealers, right, like they

1345
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:10.640
get kickbacks from certain certain drugs.
Right yeah, here too, um,

1346
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:15.760
but here here are doctors don't have
that, So I just didn't. I

1347
01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.119
mean, you know, a lot
of them probably meant well, but I

1348
01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:24.800
mean, after you're but that's that's
all well and good if you're not liable,

1349
01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:30.520
right yeah, right? If if
we have one lady here in Canada,

1350
01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:33.000
I can't remember what her handle is, Independent Journalists or something like that.

1351
01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:39.680
She goes around to pharmacies and she
is handing out notices of liability and

1352
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:43.800
I think this is such a powerful
thing. Can you imagine being served with

1353
01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:46.439
a notice of liability and then you're
on the hook, right, Like,

1354
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:49.479
think about the next time you're going
to inject somebody with something, but now

1355
01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:54.279
you're liable that that's the way it
should have been all along. Yeah.

1356
01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:59.960
Absolutely, And people need to sit
down and read the Nuremberg Code and realize

1357
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.279
this is treason what they did over
the last couple of years, and it's

1358
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:12.600
it's it's insane. How you know
they coerced people and that exact word is

1359
01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:17.520
in the very first section of the
Nuremberg Code. It's coercion and threatening people

1360
01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:23.720
with their being able to feed their
families. Take the jab or or good

1361
01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:27.079
luck finding another job. You know, I'll tell you this and we'll get

1362
01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.560
back to flat Earth. But on
my fact Under podcast in twenty twenty one,

1363
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:34.479
I was getting emails from guys who
had like eighteen years in the service.

1364
01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:39.479
They were two years away from their
retirement and they were being forced with

1365
01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:42.800
this stuff. And I was just
heartbroken because you know, I put myself

1366
01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:44.920
in that, and you know,
I thought about it, and I'm like,

1367
01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:47.039
oh, my goodness, two years
away from and our pension and the

1368
01:42:47.079 --> 01:42:50.319
military starts right on retirement. You
don't have to wait till your sixty it

1369
01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:54.720
starts as soon as you retire.
It's part of the reasons I'm able to

1370
01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:57.520
do what I do now. I
mean, I still have my side hustles,

1371
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:01.920
but it was just very, very
infuriating to see what they did to

1372
01:43:01.960 --> 01:43:06.479
people. It's, um, so
your wife, she can't get her job

1373
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:12.000
back. No, no, she
was. Yeah, and you know the

1374
01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:16.800
whole range of If you remember when
when these folks were passing, they weren't

1375
01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:20.560
allowed to have anybody in the room
with them. Yeah, this is another

1376
01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:25.520
like, yeah, unbelievable. So
my wife would be in there with as

1377
01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:29.039
they passed, um and she would
have to listen to these people cry,

1378
01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:30.920
you know, as they were passing, and I just want to see my

1379
01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:32.560
husband. I just want to see
my daughter. And you know, my

1380
01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:35.680
wife, they call her a hero. These companies were buying you know,

1381
01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:39.760
there would be dinner buffets for him
at night. You know, they were

1382
01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:44.159
heroes. And a year later,
if you didn't take um this tree,

1383
01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:50.119
you know, vaccine with zero test
history to it, you were vilified and

1384
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:56.039
had to test every week and wear
you know two they made her wear two

1385
01:43:56.039 --> 01:44:00.079
masks, dude, two masks,
and um it was just and here's my

1386
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:03.800
wife. She came first generation Hungarian. She came to the United States at

1387
01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:08.920
the age of twenty two and then
you know, here's me. You know,

1388
01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:12.399
I was in the military for twenty
four years thinking I'm defending the Constitution,

1389
01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:18.159
and then they do this to our
family and it's just sickening the whole

1390
01:44:18.159 --> 01:44:23.319
thing. And I know the reason
I talk about it is because the flat

1391
01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:29.239
earth helped me realize that everything is
a lie. Like literally, almost everything

1392
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:31.680
is a lie, and we have
to question everything. And that's one of

1393
01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:35.239
the reasons that I'm thankful that I
did woke wake up at the time.

1394
01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:43.239
You know, I stayed far away
from that, from that vaccine. I

1395
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:46.279
think it's kind of a blessing to
question everything. It makes life more interesting,

1396
01:44:46.359 --> 01:44:49.760
yea, instead of just taking everybody's
word for it, which is what

1397
01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.800
they did to us in school.
They just shoved as much into us as

1398
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:58.159
possible and then shoved us out the
door. And most of it was who

1399
01:44:58.159 --> 01:45:00.560
knows what, and we never we
just never question it, right, We

1400
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:04.399
just believed our teachers. And honestly, like, I'm in my mid forties

1401
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:09.279
and I'm excited to wake up and
work and then in the evenings I'll read

1402
01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:12.840
and I'll learn new things. It's
like, wow, it's like I remember

1403
01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:15.159
finishing university. I just never even
wanted to read a book ever again,

1404
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.640
just because they just shoved us so
full of whatever. You know, all

1405
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:24.159
these books that I didn't even want
to learn, and now I don't know.

1406
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:28.079
I, like I said, I'm
looking for the good, and the

1407
01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:32.119
good is researching. It's fun.
It's it's fun to go on podcasts,

1408
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:36.039
it's fun to connect with people,
and it's not fun to be laughed at

1409
01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:40.920
and made fun of and be told
you're an idiot. But I got this

1410
01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:44.479
great quote from Gandhi for you here. It says, first they ignore you,

1411
01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:47.159
then they'll laugh at you, and
then they'll fight you, and then

1412
01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:53.279
you win nice. And I think
it's inevitable that that's just human nature,

1413
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:58.960
right if we can persevere, if
we can, if we can persevere through

1414
01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:03.880
being made fun of and then being
vilified, you know, eventually they just

1415
01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:08.880
have to accept the fact that we're
you know, we're we're gonna blaze the

1416
01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:12.079
trail. And it's it's kind of
cool, Like who am I, I'm

1417
01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:15.760
just Joe Canada in the middle of
nowhere. And you know, if if

1418
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:20.720
I can help some people realize that, you know, the government isn't your

1419
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:25.840
best friend, like this is animal
farm, like read everybody read Animal Farms

1420
01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:30.640
if you haven't, like, it'll
tell you everything you need to know about

1421
01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:35.039
the government. And yeah, I
just it's it's incredible. And I want

1422
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:39.760
to say George that you're very smart
for marrying a Hungarian woman, because I

1423
01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:44.000
mean, obviously I did too,
and life's just never been better. It

1424
01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:47.079
has not. It's the most She's
just changed my life. And how she

1425
01:46:47.159 --> 01:46:51.119
puts up with me, I don't
know, but I'm blessed that she woke

1426
01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:54.359
up with me. And when I
presented her with this, I was like,

1427
01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:56.840
what is she going to think?
Um? And let me ask you

1428
01:46:56.840 --> 01:46:59.399
that we're starting to wind down here, we're almost two hours in, but

1429
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.119
I do want to ask you.
Obviously you probably like me when you finally

1430
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:05.920
said it, Yeah, I think
the Earth is flat. Were you anxious

1431
01:47:05.920 --> 01:47:11.560
to share it with other people or
were you hesitant? Yeah? So that's

1432
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:15.119
where I think that you're awesome and
you you share the knowledge so well,

1433
01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:18.199
and I get too passionate. I
get like really fired up, and I

1434
01:47:18.960 --> 01:47:24.239
can see people shut down and it's
like, oh man, and I'm trying

1435
01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:27.000
to even stay calm here on the
podcast. But once I get going,

1436
01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:30.319
I get going. But right away
I had to share it with my wife,

1437
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:32.560
and I was showing her, you
know, some of these things,

1438
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:35.960
and we're, you know, she's
very open, and I'm I'm open too,

1439
01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:40.720
like we're I'm not totally married to
anything, because I think you get

1440
01:47:40.760 --> 01:47:45.600
a lot of blind spots when you
are. Yeah, but the more we

1441
01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:48.800
learn, the better. And I
presented it to my wourteen year old daughter

1442
01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:54.239
and she just thought, I'm like, she still thinks I'm crazy, and

1443
01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:57.359
that's okay. She thought I was
crazy about COVID. She thought that I

1444
01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:00.479
was a big conspiracy theorist against the
the vaccine, and she just wanted to

1445
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:02.399
get it. But she just wanted
to be like all her friends. Right,

1446
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:05.680
She's trying to fit in and find
her way. But it's my job

1447
01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:11.199
as her dad to protect her.
And then my youngest daughter, she is

1448
01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:13.960
totally on the flat earth bandwagon with
me. It's so funny. She's in

1449
01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:16.760
grade six and she goes to Catholic
school and their teaching and I was really

1450
01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:21.000
surprised that in Catholic school they teach
the Big Bang theory. And I even

1451
01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:26.880
emailed the teaching like her teacher,
I'm like, are you ignoring Genesis or

1452
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:30.359
what's going on here? And that
to me, that was very interesting.

1453
01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:38.760
Flat Earth is it's such an interesting
topic, and I want to get better

1454
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:45.199
at providing key points that spark people's
curiosity and get and ask the right questions.

1455
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:48.560
So lately i've been I have a
friend that's a pilot, so I

1456
01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:51.560
was just kind of asking him questions
like did you see the Have you ever

1457
01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:54.279
seen the curve of the Earth.
He's like, yeah, I saw it

1458
01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:58.439
at forty thousand feet. I'm like, oh, well, that's I'm cool.

1459
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.399
I'm like, I'll believe you before
I believe Neil de grass Tyson.

1460
01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:03.840
But I just want you to know
that your buddy Neil de grass Tyson says

1461
01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:06.880
you can't see the curve until one
hundred and twenty thousand feet, so he's

1462
01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:11.920
calling you a liar, so you
should probably check with him and make sure

1463
01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:15.760
that you can see it. So
I'm not a pilot, and I've never

1464
01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:19.000
been at forty thousand feet. I've
probably been at twenty twenty thirty thousand feet.

1465
01:49:19.039 --> 01:49:23.399
But I mean, you look out
the window, there's it's horizon,

1466
01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:28.760
right. I don't if people only
knew what they were supposed to see without

1467
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:33.439
a fisheye lens the and that's what
bothers me. It's if the Earth was

1468
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:39.239
a globe. Fine, but whatever
numbers they've given us for the earth curvature,

1469
01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:44.840
we can see further than that,
and we can prove that those numbers

1470
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:51.600
are incorrect. Absolutely. I've been
I've been thinking, you know, I've

1471
01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:56.720
been saying I want to start doing
more activism locally, and uh, I

1472
01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:59.279
decided, I don't know if I
want to come up with flyers where like

1473
01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:01.439
if I came up with a really
cool flyer with something you could hand to

1474
01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:04.640
somebody, you know, but what
information should I put on it? You

1475
01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:06.920
know, it's got to be catchy, it's got to be inquisitive, and

1476
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:12.520
it's got to have a website on
it or or business cards. Business card

1477
01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:15.880
is something I've been you know,
kicking around as well, something you can

1478
01:50:15.920 --> 01:50:17.840
hand to somebody, so hey,
check this out. And um, but

1479
01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:23.840
I think you have you know,
Biblical Earth because I think, and again,

1480
01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:26.640
I'm never going to change the title
because so many people put flat Earth

1481
01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:30.520
in their search engine and that's how
they find the podcast. But there is

1482
01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:36.520
a stigma to those words. So
you know, I've been saying I really

1483
01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:41.800
want to do more things locally on
the ground with activism. But I really

1484
01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:44.239
want to make sure that whatever I
come up with, whether it be a

1485
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:45.840
flyer, and if I ever did
do that, I would put it on

1486
01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:49.359
the website so people could long on
and put them off from themselves. But

1487
01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:53.560
I want it to be inquisitive.
I want to make people curious to look

1488
01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:59.600
into it, and and again I
want to make sure it's presented well because

1489
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:03.960
that's the most important thing. You
never know when like when somebody listens to

1490
01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:08.840
my podcast, always think they don't
always start at the first podcast. So

1491
01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:13.760
I always try to, you know, keep everything even keel, and I

1492
01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:17.439
don't like to use words like globe, TRD and um you know sheeple,

1493
01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:21.359
which you know at some point maybe
I use the sheep a word. But

1494
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:26.239
we need to be a welcoming community
and uh, you know we're Christians.

1495
01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:32.439
You know, we're God fearing,
christ loving people. And I do want

1496
01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:36.720
to start doing things locally. So
if anybody has any ideas, you know,

1497
01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:41.600
send me an email. Maybe you
can come up with a flyer or

1498
01:51:42.279 --> 01:51:45.239
a business card example for us to
share and you know, next time we're

1499
01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:49.079
walking around the mall or our SAMs
we go to Sam's Club once a month

1500
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:51.920
to get our supplies. We can
uh, you know, leave some little

1501
01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.479
nuggets, you know, maybe on
the anyway, you know what I'm getting

1502
01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:00.079
at. I'm sure that you and
I can collaborate because that's basically what we

1503
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:02.439
do for a living. So yeah, please tell us a little bit about

1504
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:08.239
KP Design if you wouldn't mind.
Sure. My wife and I we've known

1505
01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:13.199
each other since we were fifteen years
old. We're going on forty five's almost

1506
01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:16.399
thirty years together. We got married
when we were twenty. My wife's been

1507
01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:19.760
an entrepreneur, one of the first
like stay at home moms, but working

1508
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:25.560
as a graphic designer, web designer, raising our kids. And she was

1509
01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:30.640
originally a music teacher. And yeah, now we do amazing brands, website

1510
01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:35.279
design, business cards, all all
sorts of things like that. I do

1511
01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:41.840
the SEO and Google ads for people, and it's been incredible. Like I

1512
01:52:41.880 --> 01:52:44.880
think I started with her four years
ago, but she's been in business for

1513
01:52:44.960 --> 01:52:48.600
over twenty years now, and I
came in and I basically back engineered,

1514
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:54.479
reverse engineered my position with the company
and we've been growing ever since. And

1515
01:52:55.159 --> 01:53:00.119
it's been it's been such a blessing. It was one of our goals growing

1516
01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:04.079
up even was to eventually work together, and we've we actually made it happen

1517
01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:08.600
just before COVID, and it was
so cool to you know, connect the

1518
01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:12.479
dots that man, we're self employed
and we don't you know, we're so

1519
01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:17.880
blessed that we don't have to endure
the you know what is it, darress

1520
01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:23.479
of having this shot held over your
head. I mean, I know that

1521
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:27.359
we suffered by not being able to
go out and you know, basically only

1522
01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:30.680
go to the grocery store. But
we're, like I said, we're just

1523
01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:33.880
looked for the good and we never
got sick and and we you know,

1524
01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:40.680
we we became stronger throughout the entire
or deal. We actually wrote a book

1525
01:53:40.720 --> 01:53:44.720
called Partners and Everything that's on Amazon
if anybody wants to check that out.

1526
01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:49.720
And I seriously encourage anyone to go
out there and start a business with your

1527
01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:55.720
spouse, because the two of you
working together can do incredible things. There's

1528
01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:58.439
a lot of people that joke that
they could never work with their spouse,

1529
01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:01.960
But my wife and we don't really
step on each other's toes. She has

1530
01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:05.159
her side of the business and I
have mine, and when we you know,

1531
01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:11.760
you know, bond together and go
forward with this vision of what we

1532
01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:15.760
want to do, we really elevate
the human experience for all of our clients.

1533
01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:20.439
Now going forward, one of our
major goals is to buy a big

1534
01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:25.640
property, just don't know where yet, and we would like to create a

1535
01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:30.600
healing center for people to come either
from mental health, physical health, spiritual

1536
01:54:30.600 --> 01:54:33.680
health. We want to be the
facilitators or not. We would bring in

1537
01:54:33.720 --> 01:54:38.840
facilitators, but we would be the
organizers and the hosts for something like that.

1538
01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:45.640
And that is KP Designs future goal. Like we would love to you

1539
01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:49.079
know, give back to our community
or have people come in from other countries

1540
01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:54.840
even and just heal because there's a
lot of damage out there that's been done

1541
01:54:54.920 --> 01:55:00.159
and if we could build something incredible
to you know, give back, that

1542
01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.399
would just even if even if I
didn't get any money, that would make

1543
01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:09.720
my heart explode because you would I
feel like I would you know, accomplish

1544
01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:14.039
my life and soul's purpose by by
doing that, and especially with my partners.

1545
01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:16.520
So that's that's basically the long answer
of what we do. That's great

1546
01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:20.880
and again it's uh KP Design dot
c A and the link will be in

1547
01:55:20.920 --> 01:55:25.560
the show description and you can click
on the contact link to reach out to

1548
01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:28.960
Alex. And if you wouldn't mind, well we're done here, could you

1549
01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:30.840
send me? Could you email me
a link to your book on Amazon so

1550
01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:34.399
I can put that in the show
description as well. Yeah, for sure.

1551
01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:38.359
Awesome. That way people don't have
to, you know, get onto

1552
01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:41.520
Amazon and start searching for it.
So again, folks, in the show

1553
01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:45.520
description there'll be his website, um, and his the link to his book

1554
01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:48.880
as well. So um, and
again, we'd love to hear from you,

1555
01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:53.039
guys. It's the fact that,
jeez, this is what happens when

1556
01:55:53.079 --> 01:55:56.439
I do two podcasts and one day
my mind goes. It's the flat Earth

1557
01:55:56.560 --> 01:56:01.720
files at gmail dot com. Uh. With with your your thoughts and comments,

1558
01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:04.079
and again, if you'd like to
join the show like Alex did tonight,

1559
01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:08.680
Alex, I'd like to give you
the floor for any final thoughts.

1560
01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:15.600
Yeah, um man, I feel
like I talked so much, but I'm

1561
01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:17.760
just so honored to be on the
show. And I hope that I did

1562
01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:24.720
a good enough job, you know, inspiring some people to at least challenge

1563
01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:28.399
some of the numbers and the narrative. I'm a big numbers guy, and

1564
01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:32.159
that's how I got involved in this. And I love real science, and

1565
01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:36.680
what they've been telling us on TV
is not real science. I think most

1566
01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:41.279
of us know that by now,
and I don't even have to pretend that

1567
01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:45.640
I'm a professor of anything. Like
what we can learn and what we can

1568
01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:50.199
do going out and finding the right
resources is incredible, and question everything.

1569
01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:57.880
Don't don't you know, just assume
that you know Isaac Newton's a great guy

1570
01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:01.239
at all, but just don't.
We can't even assume that everything he did

1571
01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:06.680
was on the up and up anymore
because of all these contradictions now, So

1572
01:57:08.640 --> 01:57:12.680
don't don't get married to an idea
either, Like I said many times during

1573
01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:18.640
during the podcast, if you know, who knows exactly what's going on in

1574
01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:23.279
this realm? But we know it's
not what they say it is. So

1575
01:57:23.359 --> 01:57:27.640
we might as well have fun and
meet incredible people, have great conversations,

1576
01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:31.960
don't get angry with each other,
and yeah, don't just make it a

1577
01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:36.479
positive experience trying to learn from other
people. You can always learn something from

1578
01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:41.720
somebody. I could even learn something
from Justin Trudeaux. How mostly what not

1579
01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:46.239
to do, But it's still it's
still something to learn. There you go.

1580
01:57:46.319 --> 01:57:50.760
What was certainly a pleasure having you
on and again let's let's cross over

1581
01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:54.840
down the road. I'd love to
have you on the Fact Tunner as well.

1582
01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:58.000
It's funny the guy I interviewed this
morning was for the Fact Tunner and

1583
01:57:58.039 --> 01:58:00.119
he's going to be coming on the
Flat or the Fire else down the road,

1584
01:58:00.159 --> 01:58:04.560
so we're having a dual show crossover
today. It's incredible. And remember,

1585
01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:08.920
folks, just because an apple fell
from a tree doesn't prove gravity.

1586
01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:14.399
For Alex again from Cochrane, Alberta, Canada, thank you so much for

1587
01:58:14.479 --> 01:58:16.119
joining us. Don't have to get
to check the show description to reach out

1588
01:58:16.119 --> 01:58:19.319
to Alex and we'd love to hear
from you again. It's the flat Earth

1589
01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:24.119
Files at gmail dot com and please
stop buy the website, The flat earth

1590
01:58:24.239 --> 01:58:27.960
Files dot com. God bless everyone. Thank you again for joining us.

1591
01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:30.560
Until the next time, my friends, we will see it

