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When your old career gives you lemons
throwing some ice, mix in some vodka.

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It's Color a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and

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driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Gee Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Well, Hello and welcome. Happy
fourth of July. Fourth of July,

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also known as Independence Day, has
been a federal holiday in the United

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States since nineteen forty one. But
it is the day that the colony said

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a big f you to Britain and
Thomas Jefferson had drafted the Declaration of Independence,

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and from there we go. And
I wanted to bring in the Chief

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of Police for Fairport, or Matt
Barnes, only just to kind of talk

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about Fourth of July, but what
it means, what it means to you,

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things that are changing. I know
a lot of people think fun,

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fireworks, barbecue, swimming, drinking, boats, drinking, more drinking,

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and I guess freedom. But how
many years have you been the chief of

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police here in Fairport Two and a
half years now, two and a half

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years and prior to that you were
a Rochester Yes, yeah, started off

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for FIPD. But I've been in
Fairport a long time now so and then

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and and Fairport you were just an
officer as well. And then you were

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in the army. I wasn't the
army a long time ago? Yeah?

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How many years did you do in
the army? Three years? Three years?

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The United States Army? Did you
realize that brushing your teeth became popular

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after the soldiers came back from World
War Two? It was the soldiers that

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gave us dental health. Did you
know that? I did not know that

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then they had picked up I came
on in the small things like this.

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I'm just saying. But in your
opinion, do we take freedom for granted?

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I mean freedom, Yeah, by
by by definition is the power right

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to act, speak, to think
as one wants without hinderance or restraint.

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But the freedoms in this country,
I mean I I do we take it

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for granted? In your opinion,
we definitely do. And I think that's

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human nature and I think I do. And I think I'm one of those

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Americans that try not to. I
don't try to take things for granted,

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especially you know you'll Joe Joe Monahana, one of our sergeants here. I've

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been here a long time. He
retires in October coming up. It's well

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deserved. It's freedom earns his independent
state comes in October. But h I

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think we take it for granted.
Like I said, it's human nature.

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I think, you know, if
you've got a new car after while,

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we're going to take that for granted, right, Or if you live in

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a beautiful new home, you're going
to take that for granted. I think

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it's human nature, or maybe Americanism. But I try not to. I

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really personally, I try not to. I love this country more than anything,

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I really truly do. I know
there's a ton of people to do.

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I would lay down my life for
this country. I think a lot

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of Americans would write. Yeah,
I don't say that, you know,

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just easily. But it's the truth. I mean, yeah, we definitely

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take it for granted. I mean, this country is two hundred and forty

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seven years old now something like that. So in three years we have our

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big, big anniversary. But yeah, how many people lost their lives for

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it? How many decoration independents fifty
six people signed that right? Yeah,

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people forget that right. How many
people got got killed, died, broke,

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were prisoned, yeah, imprisoned and
all that for just merely signing that.

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Remember they all committed a crime when
they signed that decoration against the motherland

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England, right, every single one
committed a crime that very day. So

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we take that for granted. Yeah, absolutely, we do, because we've

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had it so easy so long.
You know, we were talking about economic

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conditions the other day, me and
a cohort and I said, were literally

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lucky enough to be born in this
country put us in the top two percent

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of wealth just by being born in
this country. That is true. So

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it's crazy. But there again,
most of us take it for granted,

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right, sure we do. We
want a new car, we want a

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bigger house, we want a better
job, we want this that or whatever.

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We look we're always looking sideways,
right, everybody's always looking sideways instead

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of kind of focusing on what's important
to you. We're looking it's the human

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condition, which a lot of times, you know, can ruin us and

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things. This is truly the land
of opportunity. Oh my god, right,

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I mean, you know, most
of my family came from Ireland during

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the famine. I think I had
a great grandmother that came over at nine

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and she lived with a family and
one of her jobs where she had to

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wash clothes and all that. And
then you know, my great grandfather came

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over and worked on the Empire State
Building when they were building that, and

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you know, and I had a
better life, and my parents had a

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better life, right, and so
you know, you live better. I

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think there's a certain disregard for class
structure in this country, meaning that you

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don't have to stay in one economic
class. You can work your way up.

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You know, a hard work is
appreciated, a focus on something.

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You can learn a skill, you
can get an education, you can do

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all that and there I just think
there are people that are resourceful enough to

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do that. Sometimes though it's like, I agree with you, I think

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it was. My father used to
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be the first to not do better
than their parents. And sure, if

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that's if that played out in my
family, but it certainly I can see

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I can see where that can happen. I remember there was a high school

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teacher I won't say his name,
loved the guy, yeah, And one

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of his first speeches to our class, he said, each and every one

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of you will have it worse off
than you do right now, because there's

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no way you do better than your
parents really, And I thought to myself,

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God, I can't help but do
better in my parents. And no

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offense to my parents, sure their
tail off. Their amazing people, to

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most people I have ever met myt
life. But we had ten kids growing

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up. So whatever I do,
we're gonna do better. Right. And

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Joel comes from a large family too, That's why he's SHO how many kids

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in your family? So there's five
of us five? Five is big,

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like there's only three in mine.
But five and ten? Yeah? Ten.

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But I was part of the problem, Bill, I didn't. I

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wasn't out earning the keeper or making
the money to buy dinner. I was

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part of the mouths to feed in
the nest, you know, Yeah I

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was. I was a pain in
the rear. But yeah, I was

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like, there's no way my life's
going to be better. But I do

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appreciate what my parents have done.
Sure you know how hard they work.

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You talk about hard work. I
think there's some luck in there too,

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but hard work. This country definitely
opportunity, right, it's there. I

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mean, you see an opportunity,
you take it, you go for the

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betterment, and ten kids, Jesus, I think this country rewards risk Takers

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baseball team and a bench. Yeah
yeah, you got two basketball he got

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a basketball team and a bench.
And here come the jokes from Billee jokes

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to me. I'm just going,
that's a lot. That is a lot.

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It's a lot. And I know
a family. Now, I think

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all the kids, I think there's
one, there's one still in high school

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seven, But the older kids all
were assigned a younger kid to help get

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ready for school and do all that. And I think there's something some real

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value in that. I mean,
as much as I would have hated it

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if I were the older kid,
right see, I would say, you

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blame my brothers Marty and Paul for
me because they raised me. You know

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what I mean? That's how you
look at that. Yeah, uh,

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are you're not working on fourth of
July? Are you? Sergeant? I

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am not this year? No,
not this year. But what are the

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what are the most common calls that
come in today fourth of July? Is

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are there a lot of fireworks calls? Are there? Just let me give

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a precursor real quick, I asked
Joe Manahan again, a sergeant of ours,

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I've been here a long time,
Like I don't mean to repeat myself

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but Joe's retiring. So I said, Joe, do you want to come

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on this podcast? He said,
what is it? What's it about?

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And I said, we're just going
to talk fourth of July. Try to

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put a positive spin on some things
and go forward as if you and I

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talked about and Joe, God,
you sure you want me? Yes,

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I do. Joe is very realistic. It's away Joe. I saw Joe

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driving out the other day. It
gave a wave. He waved back.

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Joe is one of the nicest people
we had. I don't see negativity in

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Joe. Joe Joe always looks like
he's about to laugh. Negativity can be

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hilarious, well, negativity. Look, I have heard stories that you guys

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have told, uh, you know, with comp casts off off the podcast,

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and I don't know. I'll tell
you this. I think in this

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country, what you guys do is
I want to say, underappreciated. Sometimes

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I think nobody has a perspective unless
they've done it. They just don't.

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So just don't have here and take
credit for being a cap. And it

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doesn't matter where you work, You're
going to see everything. I don't care

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if you were to Peeka, Kansas
out in the middle of nowhere or urban

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environment in the largest city of the
United States, you're actually going to see

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it wearing a badge. You just
are it find you because people people are

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funny, right, Nothing funnier than
people in life, right right. So

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I'll let Joe touch on some things, but the calls that do come your

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way, they're nuts. The average
person cannot begin to comprehend. They really

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truly cannot. And I know people
watches be like, oh, those guys

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work in Fairport. They they're a
nice east side suburb. You know,

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I don't care if it's a city
rat, that's true. But people are

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people everywhere, absolutely there yea.
So I mean I have to think there's

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got to be even some domestic calls. I mean, look, I I'm

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drinking was a big thing in my
family, and my grandfather was a New

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York City fireman and man he would
tie it on sometimes he and my grandmother.

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Hear screaming, all right, just
changed your fucking and something smash.

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Did you say Agnes? Yeah,
her name was Agnes. Joe. What

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kind of calls a you're going to
go to or not? Let me point

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out too, Joe, is this
the first time you haven't worked the Fourth

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of July and how many years it's
it's been a while. Yeah, yeah,

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I know. Joe's pretty humble and
he won't say it, but we

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talked before this and he goes,
hey, he goes, I'm not working

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the fourth of July, am I
And I go, I don't think so.

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And he's got twenty some years in
the job so he doesn't have to.

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But that's one of the things that
people don't talk about when they talk

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about pleasing Now you got to work
the holidays and weekends, nights, holidays

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and weekends. We never shut down. No, it's twenty four hours a

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day and we still make house calls. Yes, right, it's crazy,

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but I got to think the Fourth
of July could get kind of busy.

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It's nuts, yeah, mold because
people are outside the drinking, and then

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that, you know, everybody could
becomes a firework expert. Joe, what

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are some of the college you've been
doing the last twenty something ten years.

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That's a pretty broad question in regards
to fireworks. Are just in general?

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Just yes, in general, We'll
go Fourth of July first, and then

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we can work. It's we get
a good laugh out of the same people

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that will drive their whole family and
wait and line and sit there for hours

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to watch a fireworks show, losing
their mind and calling nine one one because

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their neighbor had fireworks. And it's
just interesting to me because people they called

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nine one one because they're neighbors lighting
off fireworks more than you would for the

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Fourth of July. Really, people
don't realize why do we have fireworks,

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right? Why do we celebrating in
the fourth I'm the first seen in there,

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right over Baltimore Harbor. Yeah,
it was a Fort McHenry, I

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think, yes, Yes, Francis
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in the harbor. He's looking back
and saw the bombs, were first in

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there and met the Americans who were
still fighting, still alive. I mean

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that that's part of our heritage.
Yes, you know. And I always

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loved Fourth of July because it was
warm weather, everybody was happy, it

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was freedom. I love this country. And my grandfather put on a firework

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display that rivaled any town. Yeah, I loved it. Somebody'd be standing

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by with a garden hose like that
was going to do anything. You've been

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landed on a roof. They did
all that, and so people complained,

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is it because of a after hours
noise ordinance thing? I think so.

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I think. You know, it
seemed to a lot of dog owners really

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seemed to Yeah, you know,
but you call nine one one because my

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dog is marketing and what we see
a lot of that. I I ask

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people, you know, it's your
neighbor. Do you know them? Yeah?

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What do they say when you went
and talked to him? But I

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didn't. So Joe asked that question. And I've been on you know,

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one hundred calls with him where he
asked that question. And it's amazing that

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no one thought about going to talk
to the neighbor. Joe. It's famous

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for that question. I'll always remember
him for this. We'll go to domestics,

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neighbor troubles, whatever the call is. Over the years, Joe always

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said, what they say when you
went and talked to him or ask them

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to stop? Oh I didn't,
I just called nine one one. People

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forgets your neighbor. I go over
and knock on the door. Hey Bud,

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Yeah, I'm Tom, I live
next door. Hey Bill, Yeah,

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I'm Jim. I lived down the
street. I got a baby,

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this and whatever you know into your
mind that level of respect. You know,

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they know each other, just you
know what I mean, go ask

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him or go talk to him,
or if you're the fireworks guy, maybe

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go mention to him ahead of time. Hey, I got some fireworks.

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I'm gonna light him off. Is
it gonna kill? You know what I

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mean? Is it all right?
Or I'll keep them early or something.

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You can try to be respectful,
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adds to the drinking. Sometimes they
forget that part of it all think or

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whatever. But and some of it's
legal now. I think some people are

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still stuck on that. You know
everything, you know, everything's illegal.

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Some of it's legal now, So
I think I don't think do we know,

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like do people know what's legal and
what's not because you can go it's

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clear as mud, bill, Come
on, that's that's the problem. It's

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like everything in this state. I
was just gonna say, I feel like

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they screwed the marijuana stuff up,
especially for you guys, because you can

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possess it but kill New York State
screws. Are you kidding me right now?

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Well? You do? I mean, we talk about freedom, but

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there is like this, there's a
murky stuff, right they're looking for tax

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revenue. Clearly you can get it. I always think I've never seen anything

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do with one to eighty like marijuana
in my life, like complete one eighty

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right from the medicinal benefits and all
that stuff. And I will say I've

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enjoyed a gum or two, but
the but the idea of being able to

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possess it, not buy it legally
anywhere. Now you fueled, in my

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opinion, the black market, which
creates more problems for not me, you

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O c M office, Candadas management
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literally, like Joe said, neither
oneive, no, no, but I

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mean that's a real problem. And
then the firework thing. They sell these

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bundles. But our bottle rockets allowed. I mean, we used to shoot

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bottle rockets at each other as kids. We were running doc shooting We're going

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over here. It was awesome.
Remember hitting someone right in the ass for

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the one. I mean it was
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But that was uh and they weren't
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buy I think you can buy bottle
rockets at Walmart. There's those tents everywhere

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you look. Yeah, but it
was supposed to be nothing. Yes,

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yes, I think that's what the
law red or something. There was some

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nuances to it, but nothing that
projected in the air x amount of feed

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or sense or whatever. But like
I said, battle rackets were legal,

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but the other big stuff wasn't.
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It makes no sense. I would
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of chiefs around and haven't recite the
law on that in office Canada's management.

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There's no way. It's so discombobulated. Okay. So, as this country

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has evolved and things have gone on
over the years, how many years have

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you had a badge? So I
just started my twenty seventh, twenty seven

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years, so nearly thirty years.
Harder today, absolutely, why? Mostly

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because of these kind of laws.
Oh, we're gonna got down a rabbits

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wall. I don't want to go
down rabbit I think society has changed immensely,

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you know, and I think it's
going to change too. Nothing says

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the name right. Nothing's stagnant.
No, I don't want to sound like

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that guy. Just it's everything's different, Bill, I mean since twenty twenty,

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since we stood in the right,
it's downtown and whenever you want to

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call them. They were riots.
Right, Policing has changed forever. And

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it's funny because a lot of people
didn't realize what we the guys that wore

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the badges were screaming about then,
about the ball reform laws and all that,

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all that nonsense, because they didn't
think it doesn't affect me in the

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suburbs, or it doesn't affect me
in the city, doesn't affect me in

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the country, affects everybody. It's
craziness that came out of Albany. It's

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not some of the stuff they did, And I don't Sheriff Baxter has worked

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very, very hard. He's formed
that coalition. They're chipping away at it,

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try to get some sensibility back in
the law. But it has gone

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way too far. And well whatever
you can real quick, Yes, population

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in New York, you can look
These aren't Matt Barnes's numbers or you know

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Bill Moran's or Joe Monahan's numbers.
These are true numbers. You can look

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at them. Population of the state
of New York. We've lost the populations

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of the city of Rochester, City
of Buffalo, City, Syracuse. The

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last three and a half years and
do you think the tax burden is greater

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on the taxpayers? Absolutely less people
the people that are moving or who the

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way journers right, and they're moving
out, And we've lost congressional seats.

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Right, Positivity is coming, joy, I promise you. I see I've

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heard we've lost congressional seats. Correct, and that's your representation in Congress or

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in the Senate or someone and certain
that's the Senate of Congress. It's sad

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and it's scary. But I did
read that the growing number of change,

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whether it's I think it's Democrat to
Republicans, was New York State for some

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reason. Now people have to politic
here. They don't even politic here because

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they know how we vote. Right, I don't care which side of the

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aisle you're on. But it's still
scary that they don't even have to spend

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their time with you because they don't
care. States that are really in play

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for parental So it's just it's a
different it's a different world. I would

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think. One of the things that
I think has changed immensely, and I

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don't know what you attribute this to, but a lack of will call respect,

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right, there's a lack of respect. But I think everybody's become a

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narcissist in that I matter. I
mean, and I'm just as guilty.

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There's a camera on me right now, so you know what I'm saying.

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But we're all on social media,
and we're all so important, and we're

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all caught up in this stuff and
we're all right. And I always had

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this problem with the social media stuff
where you could be in an aisle in

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a grocery store and open up your
Twitter account and get fired up about something

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that has nothing to do with where
you are or what you're doing at the

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moment, and you're so pissed off
because on social media, it's not that

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I have to be right, it's
or that you're dead wrong, dead fucking

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wrong. And I think that's become
such a problem in so many ways,

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and I feel like it's got to
make things harder for you because now you're

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coming to people who feel like,
well, they're right, or I've read

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online and the police do this or
whatever. I don't know, but I'm

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just feeling like it's those are some
of the changes in the world, maybe

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not just this country, that have
made things more difficult, and nobody wants

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to hear no. I don't want
to hear no. I don't want my

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boss to tell me what to do. I don't want my wife to tell

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me to do. You know all
that. I never wanted my wife to

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tell me. Some of these,
some of these kids, the parents don't

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ever say no anymore, you know. And now it's member teacher back.

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You know. It wasn't that long
ago. Teachers had the you know,

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nuns with rulers principles were whatever needed
to be done. Disciline was getting handed

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out in school. That's completely done. Now the teacher gets in trouble,

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you know. I mean, so
the teachers can't do it. And then

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sometimes when we get some of these
kids, when they're old enough to get

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out, you know, on the
streets or doing whatever, we might be

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the first no they heard, and
they they don't know, they have no

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idea. Nobody can't say no to
me. No one's ever said no to

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me. We're only one's society they
can tell people know anymore. And that's

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eroding in my Sorry it's not positive, but that's why we're slowly skilled.

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Yeah, but you know, well
say it the way it's save it the

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way it is. I mean,
if it if it's roading, Yeah it

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is. Nobody goes to jail.
Everything's hugging a second chance. And you

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know there is the nose from us
are getting weaker. In my opinion,

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I don't know, maybe the chief
disagrees, but you know what I want

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to do. Yes, I want
to hire an intern. I want hear

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sheet to come out here and I
want them to do track what happens to

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our cases, our arrest I want
to see the maximum allowable sentence. I

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want to see what happens. I
want to see that someone keep changing that.

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Well, that's a great idea.
So if someone listens to this podcast,

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someone happens across that, I want
to hire that intern or volunteer to

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be great. Since our budget is
not that of other departments, and I

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want to have that person first start
with ours and we'll move out of the

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departments. We'll find out what cases, what arrests they made. It's a

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maximum liable sentence and what's happened.
I got to tell you that you should

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talk to some of the colleges that
have justice. I'm already end of that.

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Yeah, because I know my son
just graduated from Roberts Wesleyan in Uh,

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cybersecurity applies, but it's basically criminal
justice with you know now adding in

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cybersecurity and things. And uh,
I think that'd be a great project.

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That's what I want. That would
be a great project. And it's not

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calling people out, it's it's literally
holding people accountable. That's all it is.

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People hold us accountable. They've be
doing it for years. It doesn't

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seem like the healthcare system. Foul
suit does it? And it doesn't seem

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healthcare system. And I always say
healthcare and education, yes, I like,

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not really preyed upon by the onlookers, I would say, But the

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police are always on the Yeah,
right, Why is that because you're the

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enemy? Man? Tell me I
can't have my freedom. Fourth of July

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is my freedom, cheef? What
are you talking about? You mean I

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can't light off a firework and send
it through my neighbor's window. Jesus Christ?

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Their dog? Fuck their dog?
You know what I mean? I

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like dogs, but I like dogs
too, But that I think that that's

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got to be what you guys hear. Yeah, the calls, going back

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to Joelson, the calls you've been
on and the fourth it ranges everything from

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domestics to the drunk domestics. If
it's warm and the windows are open,

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the neighbors are going at it a
little bit. It's just gonna happen.

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That's what that's what people do.
And then of course everybody's there's a lot

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of Fourth July parties that people are
coming and going to, and not everybody

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you know that's been celebrating gets the
uber or the designated driver. So you're

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gonna have an increase in you know, the roads are a little bit more

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dangerous, you know, on a
on a holiday when it's a drinking holiday.

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I would agree with it. You
know, you're drinking it it is,

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you know, And so you got
more people on the road, you

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know, kind of going home that
way, then you're gonna get the domestics

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as well. Yeah, there's plenty
of plenty of that going on. We

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want that though. We want people
celebrating. We want people to get together

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with neighbors. Yes, friends,
and this country is Yes. That's why

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other people or other countries are jealous
of us is because we have that pride.

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What do you say when people say, you know, the campaign for

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President Trump is to make America great
again? What do you say to people

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who say the country was never great. America was never great. I know

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who you're referring to. I think
it was Cuomo that said that, right.

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Oh, I don't know. I
really don't know. That is he

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probably did. I just I've heard
it myself, and I often think.

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You know what I said to them, travel move outside? Yeah, a

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couple of years and sure pick a
country, right, yeah, And I've

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traveled a good mountain life, you
know. And I like some other countries.

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I don't like anything close to this
country, no, right, I

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love those country. So I don't
know. Are we perfect? Now?

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No one's perfect. You couldn't be
one of the One of the I think

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biggest things, Uh, that's problematic
for the United States is the size.

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It's a huge country, three hundred
and thirty million people, right, and

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you go. I had European neighbors
when I lived over in Pittsford, and

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they could speak several languages. And
I remember saying, I go, boy,

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I think that's one of the greatest
things you can do for your brain.

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I really do. But that I
said, boy, here, we

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don't and the woman who lived and
said, yeah, because everything you want

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to see is right in the borders. You want to go to a desert.

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You want to go to a beach, you want to go she goes,

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you can't do that in Europe.
You want to go to the mountains.

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It's all here, everything's here.
Yeah, And I think that's I

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really do. And I've always,
I always think this country is great.

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I wish we could get back to
some sort of sensibility in a sense.

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I feel like the idea of discussions
is gone. You know, it's always

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the greatest thing of we need to
have a discussion about name the topic,

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race, economics, whatever it is, class structure. Okay, nobody wants

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to have the discussion. They don't
because it goes back to I'm right.

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And I mean I even had somebody
in here the other day and we're talking

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something about the city, and you
couldn't get a word in edgewise because as

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you started to talk, they would
just talk over you. And I go,

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this is the problem is that,
you know, to have a discussion,

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it's one idea to the other.
I we don't have to agree,

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but a bet we come closer than
we think we are. Oh yeah,

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and yet we stay miles apart.
And I think if you sat down to

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most people, I think the extreme
right, an extreme left, or the

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minority. I think most of the
in the middle. I agree, I

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really do, Yes, I truly
do. They're the loudest, They're the

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ones that get the most attention.
They're the loudest. It's like it's always

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the bad of whatever. I mean, you got to see it with with

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police, get one bad police,
everybody, every cops back, we can

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get the fuck out of here.
The No, I'm sorry, I don't

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mean to, but you know what
I'm saying that that's not true. That's

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not true at all. And you
know, people may think that, like

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Fairport's sort of a mayberry Ish town, although it's growing and growing and growing.

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And I'm hearing like I think there's
a barn Park Avenue that close.

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Seeing all the kids go to Fairport
down everyone comes to Fairport. Yeah,

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I mean, which is great and
yet more problematic for you guys. Yeah,

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with people come issues, right.
Yes, So we want the people,

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obviously. We want the bars,
we want the restaurants, we want

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the nightlife, we want the music
venues. We want all that because I

409
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:57,079
enjoy it too. I think everyone
enjoys taking a walk on a night and

410
00:25:57,079 --> 00:26:00,240
seeing a band or live music just
cool to like, you know, we'll

411
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,519
be here late. I'll be here
late some nights and I like walking out

412
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:07,160
and just hearing there's a concert.
Yeah, zebow, there's you know cons

413
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,920
on the canal. Yes, it
is, and it and you go when

414
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,720
and it's it's nice and it's beautiful, and I think that that's great.

415
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,160
I don't want to see it go
sideways. But you know, I don't

416
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,079
know what you guys, what's your
you know you can almost speak freely,

417
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,759
Joe, you've reached almost speak freely, got ninety days left back in November.

418
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:30,799
I answer everything, no memory,
whatever? What my question on what

419
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,000
that growth? No, I'm not
going to touch on that. I know

420
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:37,880
you feeling that. What do you
think the problems aren't coming up? The

421
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,160
project problems or issues with the with
the town with so much growth and development?

422
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,160
Well, it's you know, one
part grows and it takes how long

423
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,319
to catch up the other parts?
All right? And we're just just to

424
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,200
give a separate exam. You know, if all of a sudden you put

425
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,960
up one hundred new buildings, Yeah
great, what did you do? Did

426
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,160
you increase the fire department's abilities?
Did you leave it exactly the same,

427
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,200
did you increase the road or you
know, the trade. You know,

428
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,319
there's always going to be growing pains. I have a sister in law that

429
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:07,960
lives near Myrtle Beach, so we
will go down there time to time and

430
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:11,039
you go around and it's it's exploding. You know, everywhere there's growth.

431
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:12,519
I'm sure the you know, the
the tax base is going up, all

432
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:17,359
that. Those things are great,
but the driving's atrocious and the you know,

433
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,079
the I think the law enforcement's overwhelmed, and I think you have to

434
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,960
You can't just increase one thing without
having some problems, so you have to

435
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,039
kind of build it all up together. And if the growth is fast,

436
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,680
it's going to take a while for
that other stuff to catch up. You

437
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,119
know. What you're saying is to
the board and to the mayor that we

438
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,680
need more cops. Is that what
you said? I think you need more

439
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480
cops. I think the fire fire
department needs to go up. I think

440
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,359
parking roads need to be expanded.
If you're choosing growth or if growth is

441
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,720
the way it's going, right,
First of all, is that what you're

442
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,480
is that what you're what do you
want to say? You're constituents or whatever?

443
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,319
You know, the people in town. Do they want that growth or

444
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,839
do they like Fairport because it has
a small town charm? Right, because

445
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,319
I hear a lot of people talk
about the village and the small town charm

446
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,079
and I respect that, And that's
one side. And then that growth is

447
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,400
making it look like a little Henrietta, And I don't know if that's what

448
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,640
people want. Did you move here
to get away from some of that stuff

449
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,079
and then it just blows up here
and you're just then you've got to move

450
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,279
to whatever's next, or maybe you
enjoy that growth. I don't know.

451
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,119
You know, it's to find the
happy medium. Yeah, but you bring

452
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,599
up a good point and a great
thing about this going trigger it seemed to

453
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,079
be, is you have a voice
and it can be heard right, and

454
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,759
you find the people that are supposed
to represent you. In some way things

455
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,079
get muddled and there's when they get
in the office, I guess, but

456
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,920
I would think that, Yeah,
I think that's all important stuff and the

457
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:44,160
politics at at a lower level,
you know, at this small town,

458
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,279
are more important to impact your life
directly. It's your everyday life. Not

459
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,400
that the other stuff isn't important.
That's not what I'm saying, but you

460
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,720
know, the roads, you drive, the traffic, you deal with,

461
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:57,200
what opportunity, what comes in,
what comes into your town? Is there

462
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,559
more crime, is there more drunk
drive? Whatever? Right? And and

463
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,759
then do we have the infrastructure to
handle that, including police and fire.

464
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,519
I think that's really important. I
think to I guess to expand what you

465
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,319
just said. The local government,
whether it's police, whether it's you know,

466
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,519
roads, infrastructure, local government.
I think that's where it's at one

467
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,920
hundred percent. Yeah, and everyone
says, well, we don't need it,

468
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,920
We'll just go to the county.
Okay, Well, let's take that

469
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,559
step further. Let's get rid of
the county and just go to the state.

470
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:23,960
No, let's get rid of the
state. Let's go to do you

471
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240
know what I mean? We can
you're going where is It's like our news

472
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,480
stations, get rid of your new
stations. Let's go to CNNFL Well practically

473
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,200
are do you know what I mean? There's no You have to have local

474
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,519
pride, you have to have leadership, you have to have local government.

475
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,759
I think that is where it's at. You touched on something that I think

476
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:47,960
is severely lacking. And and the
word is pride. And I feel like

477
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Fairport. There's some pride, inapt
right, pride and by pride, this

478
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,559
is gonna maybe sound stilly to people, but it's keeping your yard nice.

479
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000
It's you know, this is my
home. I work hard for this,

480
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160
having some pride in it, feeling
good about it even you know what I

481
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,039
mean. There's something about when my
kids were little. You have kids,

482
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,599
right, yeah, you have kids? No kids? No kids? Smart

483
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:18,960
man, the first person call me
smart and Tom kidding of kidding. I

484
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:22,599
uh uh, not that you're smart. That I'm not kidding about, but

485
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,200
the kid part. But you know, like when your house is in chaos

486
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,079
and in clutter, they behave poorly. Right, once everything's organized and everybody's

487
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,160
like Colmer and it just feels better. And I think that goes for society.

488
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,759
Look at the chaos and look at
the and then look at the environment.

489
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:41,279
You know, look look at the
crime, look at the chaos,

490
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:45,759
look at the vince and you'll see
but here and I think pride is a

491
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,759
real big thing. You go back
and I don't want I'm not saying we

492
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,519
need to do this, but look
at ballgames from the forties and fifties.

493
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,759
People are in suits and dressed up
and there was pride. You felt good

494
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,480
like there used to be the term
Sunday. Best kids actually behaved better when

495
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,519
they were That's why the schools had
uniforms and things, because every you know,

496
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160
there was no class distinction in terms
of who had the nicer clothes,

497
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,480
but everybody dressed and you look good, and everybody there was pride in that.

498
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,359
And I think pride is a big
thing that is sort of missing and

499
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,799
something that I think on the fourth
of July, I have a little pride

500
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,200
in America. Oh goshcha, you've
ever gone on West? Yes, I

501
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:27,480
lived in Park City, Utah for
a summer. My uncle was a pilot

502
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:32,720
for Delta and based out of Salt
Lake, and so I spent the summer

503
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:34,559
with them. If you go out
to the American West and Joe's heard me

504
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:40,799
say this a bunch my first time
out there. I literally remember looking over

505
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,559
it to the Snake River right,
the runs through the Grand te Dah yeah,

506
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:47,359
and Jackson Hall, and I'm going
this place is indescribable. It is.

507
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,480
It is absolutely amazing. It gives
you goosebumps. They tell Joe and

508
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,960
Morano in the in the Grand Tee
Times really yeah, really yeah, Okay,

509
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,559
yeah. Yeah, did you travel
through Yeah, into Montana or anywhere

510
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:04,640
out there, whether it's even California, hate to stay. California is one

511
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880
of the pretty states. It really
is. They've ruined that state, but

512
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:13,480
yeah, it's an amazing state.
But you travel throughout this country is absolutely

513
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:17,079
amazing. It is the things,
the people, and just it's awesome.

514
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:21,880
You talk about pride, national pride
or something. Yes, country is awesome.

515
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:27,160
It really is. Yeah, absolutely
amazing. My brother quit a job

516
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,799
he was working as a He was
negotiating contracts from New York City for the

517
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:35,559
fire and police. It was part
of a team and it was a cubicle

518
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,519
job. And some guy they came
in to go thirty years yay. My

519
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:40,920
brother goes, I can't do this. I can't do this for thirty years

520
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,799
sitting in here. So he bought
a bike, flew out to Seattle,

521
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,119
stayed a week with his buddy out
there, and then bicycled back. There's

522
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,960
all these paths and books and places
you can stay from Seattle to Virginia,

523
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,720
and he wants to do that with
his kid, and he goes, it

524
00:32:55,799 --> 00:33:00,039
was one of the greatest things I
ever did because you got to see the

525
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,240
country. Yeah, you know,
parts of the country you don't even see.

526
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:06,880
We drove cross country when we were
kids with our parents because my uncle,

527
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,599
as a pilot at one point was
living in Bainbridge Island off of Seattle,

528
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,440
and you know, he bounced around
a little bit. Uh, So

529
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,960
we got to see a lot of
that stuff too, which I think is

530
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,200
a is a great thing in Yellowstone, man, that is awesome, amazing,

531
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,799
awesome. I'll say this. Huh, it'll change, so Joe last

532
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:24,559
because I said it'll change as a
person, as a human, as an

533
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:31,079
American. I agree where he went
when he came back. You tell me

534
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:36,480
that when you retire, you gotta
go. Have you ever you've never been

535
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,279
out there? No, really been
a lot of places. Okay, not

536
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:43,200
very well traveled just yet. That's
all right. I will say this.

537
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,880
So New York State, Yeah,
got a lot of cool stuff in it.

538
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,759
New York State is amazing you God
arondecks Er the Lakes and honestly Rochester,

539
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:55,279
Yes, metro Rochters awesome area.
Joe's giving me that face because you're

540
00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,000
thinking city dirty. Yeah it's not. City Rochters a pretty cool city.

541
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,759
If we could get crime to a
level where people would visit it. You

542
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,799
know, it's yeah, and no
one wants to talk about that. My

543
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:09,280
wife doesn't look at the bulletproof vest, you know what I mean, So

544
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:17,360
we don't want to go to avoid
the time. Some superheroes look really great

545
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,039
at both. I don't know,
I'm just saying the uh, Joe Monahan,

546
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,679
everybody well to talk about the crime
for just a moment. Yeah,

547
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,960
it's a small percentage people, right, but it's scary as ship. Yeah.

548
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,039
And it doesn't help that the news
it's all they focus on if you

549
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:42,400
look. And I had numerous numerous
conversation with various news outlets and Rochester who

550
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,079
dominates the news cycle the first five
stories every night, please dab it?

551
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,480
Yeah, it's please. Yeah,
it's weird newsmakers, whether we want to

552
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,960
be or not, we are top
five stories. It's not economic stories.

553
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,719
No, it's not anything like that. I think Alheart, towards his end

554
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,760
of his career, wanted to do
uh, you know, promotional stuff as

555
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,719
far as positivity, and yes he
did well. He tried to put the

556
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,559
he had something at the end of
every newscast. It was like the person

557
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:13,199
of the day or something I'm gonna
paraphrase and screwed up, But yes,

558
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,519
you are correct. I think you
did. I think it's a great thing.

559
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:19,360
I mean, I you know what, as you're sitting there talking,

560
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,639
I go, why why don't we
just put on a camera and go talk

561
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,840
to the people that are making a
difference and trying to do good stuff and

562
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,280
hear about that? Because we don't, because it's always going to be the

563
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,519
stabbing, the shooting, the car
action in identifying the person that was killed

564
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,159
in this and that. And I
always think, do I need to know?

565
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,320
I have to be honest? Since
I've started doing this and I read

566
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,679
a lot, and I'm aware,
I don't watch the news a lot because

567
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:51,599
I think it changes your I think
it changes your whole outlook and it makes

568
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,480
you angry. And now I will
say this, I will ask you guys.

569
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:00,599
I sometimes think I'm very naive.
I live in the a bubble,

570
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,360
right, But do we have to
have our head on a swivel always be

571
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,679
worried about different things? I mean, I think there's awareness, but I

572
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,320
think worrying. I think sometimes watching
the news makes you more paranoid than you

573
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,360
need to be. I think there's
some just got double gain of space.

574
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:19,719
I think there's some evil, evil, evil people in this world. And

575
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,199
I think, yes, so many
different aspects we get down with. Yes,

576
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:30,360
I don't understand why society doesn't want
to Let's say, let's say murder,

577
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,159
right, yeah, the line murder. Why can't that person go away

578
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:37,000
for life? He took a life. Why is this he gets sentenced for

579
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,440
thirty two years, we gets out
after twelve. I just will never understand

580
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,960
that. I think. Ever,
I think, now, we're not taping

581
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,960
this on the fourth of July,
but I think today, July second is

582
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,519
when we're taping. This isn't today
when the I think the actual declaration was

583
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,559
signed today, right, Yes,
it was signed today, and it took

584
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:59,679
two days to ratify for all thirteen
colonies to agree to it. That is

585
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,400
true seventeen seventy six. But what
I was going to say is, I

586
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,760
think, if my history is right, nineteen forty eight, the Supreme Court

587
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,960
ruled that the death penalty was not
cruel unusual punishment for certain crimes. I

588
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,559
think that was just I think today's
the anniversary of that. So it's going

589
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,480
to sound completely bizire, to which
I don't mean what Joe's never heard me

590
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,039
say this. We've never talked about
it. I don't believe in it.

591
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,199
I can understand why. I just
I calendared. All that killed keeps coming

592
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,440
back to my head. I will
tell you that it is a I couldn't

593
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,239
do it. I couldn't watch,
I couldn't anything. I'm just saying that

594
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,840
I think I think that was in
certain states, it's still the crime.

595
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,559
I don't know. I'm with you, and I understand. You sit with

596
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:43,079
a mother whose child's been abducted or
something like that, you could probably change

597
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,760
him. I'm real easy. And
Joe was shaking his head. Yes,

598
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,400
I just comes back to the whole, not trying to get religious on you,

599
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:51,679
just that that shall not kill that. Yeah, I don't know,

600
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:53,360
but I think there's parts of the
by hole that does that. Whatever.

601
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:58,679
Yes, I hear. Yeah.
But as far as sending someone to prison

602
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,079
for the crimes they've committed for it, yeah, sorry, rap sheets of

603
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:06,519
some people walking around with blow blow
your mind. And I wish the jurors

604
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,000
could sit on a jury. Oh
shit, that just reminds me I have

605
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,599
to send in my jurey think.
Oh, don't worry, it's just a

606
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:17,119
law. Though I know I forgot
you just said it. Oh, boy,

607
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,840
But that's crazy. That's another thing. We're talking about so many different

608
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,079
topics today. That's right. Jury, it's all about America. This is

609
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:28,960
all Hey, look where else are
you getting a jury of your peers?

610
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,559
Now? Is it always balanced?
I? I don't know. They you

611
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:36,000
know, there's certain ways I guess
to manipulate things. I I'm not smart

612
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,760
enough to know all those ways.
But I don't think that's happening in a

613
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,920
lot of places. Whoever has never
served on jury duty or has never been

614
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,719
to court? Yes, I know, everyone's ah, don't I gotta work.

615
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,320
I got to do this with the
kids. Maybe go serve in jury

616
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,920
said duty, Maybe find it interesting. I don't know. I've been to

617
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,800
court, you know, hundreds of
times. I don't really find it very

618
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,920
interested anymore, old hat kind of. But if you've never served on a

619
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,400
jury, do it, because you
may fascinating. I don't know. But

620
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,519
the jury doesn't get everything. They
don't get the background of the suspect being

621
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:07,920
tried. They don't get that they've
been arrested fourteen, fifteen, seventeen,

622
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,159
thirty times before for numerous crimes,
so on and so forth. It's nuts.

623
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:16,199
It is nuts. What the average
citizen has no idea what people have

624
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:21,559
done and been convicted of, but
they're still out walking around. You would

625
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,400
see multiple crimes on a rap sheet
that you would think would have put that

626
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,360
person away for a long long time, and they're just out and about and

627
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,840
I don't. I mean, that's
crazy to me. But so when the

628
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,039
whole bail reform law came out,
I guess five years ago. Now how

629
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,079
long has it been out twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, I can't remember when

630
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,199
it came out. We were the
first apartment in New York State. We

631
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,559
made the Wall Street Journal. The
arrested the guy for I believe burglary,

632
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:50,639
and you got an appearance sick at
that afternoon. That night got arrested again

633
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:57,719
for burglary, breaking into people's houses. This is your largest investment where your

634
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,400
children's sleep. Oh yeah, the
largest investment for most most Americans. Right,

635
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,239
it is your car? Yeah right? The whole stolen car thing go

636
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,840
down to four four, three hundred
whatever last year. Nuts. Oh,

637
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:14,079
the car thing drives me crazy,
only because the person who gets screwed on

638
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:19,039
that is the person's car with stone. I mean, you are. Last

639
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,760
week we arrested two people for two
stolen cars here in Fairport. Uh huh,

640
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,559
Joe, how old was the one? Thirteen? Thirteen? Thirteen years

641
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:29,039
old? No shit, I think
he was ever taking a jail. I

642
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:31,440
think he was ever doing it.
None, never left his home. Yeah,

643
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,599
boo, okay, Oh do you
do okay, do you do with

644
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,960
the thirteen? I don't. I
don't that that. I don't know,

645
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,760
right, And I get it a
little bit. But what's happening in the

646
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,280
home. There is no home.
Huh there there really isn't a home.

647
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,159
You know what I mean? That
there's a old man would have been tap

648
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,719
dancing on my you're old who?
My old man? You're old who?

649
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,039
Yeah? I got it, you
know what I mean. Well, here's

650
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:58,480
the thing, Like, Okay,
so I I don't live with I have

651
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,000
a fourteen year old son. I
do not live with my fourteen oun son.

652
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,719
He comes to visit, he'll be
here and met him. He'll be

653
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,760
here at the end of the week. But you know that that is a

654
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,199
concern of mine at times. But
I'd staying in contact. And his mom's

655
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,760
pretty tough, and he's got an
uncle close by who was a West Point

656
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,599
guy, so he's a little more
structured and stuff. So I which was

657
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:24,239
all part of my reason for letting
them, you know, sign the paper

658
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,800
to move out of state was I
wanted to make sure that there was going

659
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,760
to be structure and things that were
going to work. But I think that's

660
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:37,400
really important. Yeah, yeah,
I mean the single parent, you know,

661
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:39,679
the mom that's working a bunch of
jobs to try to keep food on

662
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,159
the table and stuff like that,
she can, yeah, doing the best

663
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,039
she can. But at the same
time, you can't look to the police

664
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:52,599
or the government or anybody else.
Once we start relying too much on Like

665
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:55,360
we want to talk about independence,
you got to have independence yourself. You

666
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,440
got to rely on yourself. And
Pete, I'm a hugehuge fan of the

667
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,599
term a hand up, not a
handout, right. I love things like

668
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,559
Habitat for humanity. One of the
reasons I love it was sweat equity.

669
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,480
You got to get in there and
you got to paint. You got to

670
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,199
do that. And they've done stats
much like you were talking about the police,

671
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,119
they've done stats on the graduation rates
for people from those homes, families

672
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,719
from those homes, and how pride
back into the pride thing all that.

673
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,840
I've always believed that if you are
shown an effort. Someone's going to meet

674
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,480
you halfway because everybody wants to help, right It just you know, a

675
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:35,519
rising tide floats all boats. But
this idea of well, you know I

676
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,960
need a nanny state, No,
we don't. You don't want that.

677
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,280
You don't want that, and it
makes everybody else's job harder. And we've

678
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,159
gotten sort of to that in New
York State. I feel like, you

679
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:45,639
know, it's funny you talk about
pride, and another word of mine is

680
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:50,679
loyalty, right, And everyone says
loyalty when they say loyalty, especially in

681
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,239
a funny blue suit that we wear, right, Yeah, it was like

682
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,760
a loyalty there. It means they're
crooked. There's loyally Now, it's not

683
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,800
what I'm talking about. Loyal to
each other, yes, is one of

684
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,320
those things. But loyal to the
law, loyal to the citizens, loyal

685
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,079
to what you're doing, right,
all that loyalty. Loyalty is the greatest

686
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,719
thing in the face of the planet. It really is. Yeah, So

687
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,280
those words I think, yeah,
we get away from but we need to

688
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,280
bring him back or at least take
pride and what we're doing every day.

689
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,920
So I don't know, I always
think with like, you know, a

690
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,199
thirteen year old kids stealing a car. You wish you could those powers could

691
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,679
be used for good. I don't
know if the kid knew how to steal

692
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,119
the car, if he was just
an accomplice with somebody in the car.

693
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,440
I don't know what this story is. But one of the things that I

694
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,880
think, you know, you'll hear
about social media and it's taken over and

695
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,599
kids, the influence that kids are
getting and all this stuff. Well it's

696
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:45,639
self esteem. But how do you
build self esteem by things like sports getting

697
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,239
better? You know, my fourteen
year old kid loves to go out and

698
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,119
where he loves making money. So
if he can make more money, it

699
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:53,920
keeps him out of trouble. He's
washing windows for people. He's doing this

700
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,519
right, makes him feel good.
All dad, you won't believe how much

701
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,119
money I got playing basketball, getting
better, getting better all the time,

702
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,880
joining this AAU team, going to
the all these things. It starts you

703
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,199
believe in yourself and you see that
you know reps in life. You get

704
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,599
better and better and better. It's
yeah, And if you could just show

705
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:15,119
a young person that there is a
way out. You don't have to be

706
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,119
this way. You want to be
in trouble all the time. Nobody likes

707
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:20,880
to be in trouble. You want
to be scared, you want to be

708
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,960
hiding from Why are we doing that? Yeah? You could do you could

709
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,719
do more? Does Fairport? I
always thought this was a great thing in

710
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,639
certain towns. And I don't know
what Fairport steals, but they used to

711
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,719
have where the police, like you
have any fucking time, uh would have

712
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:43,679
coach teams or just something to build
that rapport. So it's not the enemy

713
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,320
used to be when I was a
kid. Find someone in the uniform.

714
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,400
If you're lost, if you feel
unsafe, find a person in a uniform.

715
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,360
Right, I think that still holds
true, Right, Yeah, I

716
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,039
think it does, but I don't
know. And as much as we say

717
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:59,239
it's depleted. Joe always talks about
you can walk up to someone in the

718
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:05,199
uniform and talk about or have level
of trust, a certain level of trust.

719
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,239
Yeah, for the most part,
you know what I mean. You

720
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,159
can walk up to a stranger at
a park in uniform. You're out walking

721
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,559
the bare, Yes, I'm from
a call or something to talk to someone.

722
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,880
There is a certain level of trust
still, and you know, I

723
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,519
wouldn't know we're all, you know, downtrodden and say, well, this

724
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:22,360
went wrong and this needs to change
how they're raised, because there's certain families

725
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,679
where they're raised to trust the police, and then the certain family were the

726
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,599
bad guy. I've we've run into
some of those kids are not to be

727
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,039
feared. We're the bad guy,
right, you know that's tough. I

728
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,519
don't know how to I don't know
how you overcome that when that's where your

729
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,320
starting point is, right, I
don't know. Yeah, going back to

730
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,039
the coaching stuff, I coached.
I coached for CYO, for the the

731
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:44,000
church or Yeah, a couple of
other guys coached football. Yeah, one

732
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
guy coaches baseball and stuff like that. But I think they're their sons or

733
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,880
daughters teams, you know. Yeah, but it stills to know that police

734
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,599
officers do. But what they do
for the still we still do charity events.

735
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:57,599
We work with you know, the
schools, although that's kind of falling

736
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,880
off because of twenty twenty, right
the relations ships were broken then, but

737
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,159
we're still trying to mend that.
But yeah, we're definitely woven into the

738
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,559
fabric of this community. Yeah,
and that's the nice thing about being a

739
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:10,400
smaller unit, right, So people
do know you, and and you're expecting

740
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,639
to get out and walk and shake
hands and talk. I mean that's what

741
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:16,679
you're supposed to do. You're supposed
to know your beat. So will you

742
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,239
be in the parade. We'll be
in the parade, yes, yep.

743
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,760
Look yeah, I always think that
you're coming to the Paradeville. I will

744
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:28,000
not be. I'll be with a
friend of a mutual friend of ours.

745
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:32,320
Gotcha, Okay, I don't want
to help down at the lake. I

746
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,400
figured that out. Yes, well
that's always fun, you know. But

747
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,960
I used to love when I was
a kid because I grew up in small

748
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,559
town America and we used to do
two parades with the high school band.

749
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,000
There was Pine Plains, New York. You never heard of it, Pine

750
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:50,320
Plains, Hine Plains, New York, Yo. Yeah, never heard of

751
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,039
it. It was the largest school
district in New York State per square mile,

752
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,679
with the probably the smallest population.
I think there were sixty five kids

753
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:06,639
in my class and sixty he graduated
five, didn't Yep. That was a

754
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,480
graduation where my father came up to
me goes, I don't know whether to

755
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,559
shake your hand or kick your ass. Dumber than you got every award up

756
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,960
there. You practically had a drool
and you got nothing. And if it

757
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,480
wasn't for my mom's dad, my
grandfather who came over, it's graduation day.

758
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,960
He got out. Don't worry about
it. He got out, he

759
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:27,760
got out. It's all good.
It was all good. All right.

760
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,719
One final question? Yeah, what's
more American than a hot dog? What

761
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,559
do you put on your hot dog? Chief? What's on the hot dog?

762
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,159
Yeah, of course it's going to
be a hot dog? Right?

763
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,519
Yeah. Shout out to Kevin Salva. He is the CEO there I believe

764
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:46,679
of. He's a local Fairport yes, reason I know. Wow, He's

765
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:52,960
supported our police activities, supported good
best Cop Tacticle competition we had years ago.

766
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000
Kevin Salva. You guys probably don't
know him, but he is a

767
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:59,679
Fairport guy, wonderful human. He
works at a high level. I don't

768
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,360
know what is exact titles. He
might be the CEO now, okay,

769
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,280
of his wiggles and if you don't
know what's wiggles, then please move to

770
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:12,760
Syracuse. So, uh, I'm
just a ketchup guy. Just a ketchup

771
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,400
guy, that's it. I used
to always make fun of people who put

772
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,119
ketchup on hot talks. You can't
do that. It's mustard. But I

773
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:21,199
would put mustard with ketchup. But
you got a Chicago thing, right,

774
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:23,280
They only they don't serve ketchup,
and I don't think they do. Think

775
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:28,159
you're right, you're right. But
now now, I used to love,

776
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,039
like the the beef hot dogs and
my grandfather would get from New York City

777
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,280
a fourth of July and I always
put mustard and sometimes relish on there and

778
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,880
all that. I would be about
six or seven of those and then jump

779
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,840
in the pool. Well, I'm
I am a very uh a plain guy.

780
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,679
I really, I just am everyone
laughs, but just a plain dude.

781
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,800
I don't know, all right,
Joe, what do you got?

782
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,320
I do not like swiggles. I
don't like that casing. Wow, wow,

783
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:00,920
I don't know. Yeah. I
like ballparks, okay, all right,

784
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,400
all park, ketchup, relish and
mustard. Okay, yeah, I

785
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:08,920
follow you, Bill. I would
be mustard, relish, depending and sometimes

786
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,719
if you can get that chili dog. I love hot sauce on there.

787
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,920
Really. Oh yeah, man,
I'll go the hotter the better, the

788
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,599
hotter the better. I remember I
grew up near Woodstock that's where Pine Plains

789
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,280
is, and we used to tube
down the Ahsapis River and we'd all get

790
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,440
chili dogs before your mouth would be
on fire, and then you'd jump in

791
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,760
the river and getting that tube which
before everybody people. I don't know if

792
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,920
you're going to agree with this,
but the passification of America, it's a

793
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,920
term I've heard. I'm not asking
you about this, but when I would

794
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,559
too, when I would tube the
river, Joe, they didn't have wooden

795
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:45,360
seats in this. It was just
your ass and the rocks. And now

796
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,599
they got wooden seats in there,
and I go, what, No,

797
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,960
it's not the same. Give me
the fucking tube when we go never mind.

798
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,719
Sorry, Fourth of July, gentlemen, always a pleasure. Thank you

799
00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:00,760
for coming in. Happy fourth to
you, and I really appreciate all you

800
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,599
do. Thank you seriously. Thanks
for what you guys just done before we

801
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:07,360
signed Officer. Thank you for always
helping us with our podcast too, So

802
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,239
I really appreciate that popcast. You
can do it without you, well,

803
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,920
I'm I'm I'm honored to do it, to be quite honest with you,

804
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:19,000
and uh, just smile, Joe. That's all in November. Happy for

805
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:22,480
the July. Stay safe and don't
call nine one one on your neighbor's flight

806
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:36,960
off fireworks, everybody arrest, Welcome
me. Holdtal didn't know what to do.

807
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,760
I'm trying to TV. Don't do
a letter to you, dang ye. Stay