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You're listening to the downbeat on ninety
seven to one the freak ways. I

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gonna get draft flight out of that
here. Wow, all right Bill Green,

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Big Day on the show. Well, this is Philip Green, a

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Frost Bank that's an associate of Archer, trying to attain detain right now,

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all right, we got this.
Now, what's the employees name? San

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Antonio Man? I think we have
Sam nine o'clock. I tell you people,

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we're excited about this via if text
message feedback is anything from someone on

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tex said, are you sure he
lives next to the right course? Which

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I would be amazing. Hey,
there's nobody out here, not a soul.

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I see two old guys and a
poll card. I would be deeply

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questioning that had it not been for
photographic evidence in the Valero signage. You

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know, he's done everything we've asked
him to do except not overtalk us on

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the back and board on the phone. I don't even mind that, because

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san Antonio Man is an e F
and wild card. Yeah, that dog

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like that. Anything can happen today. He's got passion, he's fired up.

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All right, buckle up, lad
eight thirty Larry the cable Guy,

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what a show. Guys, have
you heard about the Super League? You

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asked that, and I I said, Golf, I said, is this

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Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman?
Yeah? Makes comment number one, Yeah,

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like that with Superman lifting a Volkswagen. The Super League is a proposal.

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It's a loose proposal by a group
of twenty influential people, including Robert

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Goodell's number one man, like I. It'd be the NFL's number two guy,

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probably the future NFL commissioner after Robert
Goodell. And there's the Philadelphia seventy

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six ers owner David Blitzer, I
think is his name. He's involved.

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There's a group of twenty just tieh
end guys and they are like NCAA football

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is FT, we can fix it. And the idea would be the Super

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League, which means one league overseeing
everything instead of NCUBAA or NCUBA being in

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charge. No more conferences. You
would have promotion and relegation. So if

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you're a school like we'll just use
North Texas as an example, since we

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carry their games in the fall,
North Texas could jump into the top tier

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of college football, you know,
and then go down too based on how

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they play. Players would be paid
directly. That would solve the nil thing,

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you know, because it's a problem
for schools like North Texas, for

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small schools, it's a problem for
a lot of schools. It's good for

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a lot of players, you know. But there would also be a managed

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transfer portal with like a limited number
of options, you know, a limited

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number. You'd almost have to like
maybe you could put a tag on someone

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and not allow them to transfer.
Now I'm not sure that would work,

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but either way, it's a proposal
here and they think this is going to

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be great because it's there's one hundred
and thirty college football teams FBS teams,

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so you would have seventy. There
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right off the bat, top seventy
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seventy would play in ten sorry,
in sevent tente divisions, and also the

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top ten teams of the bottom tier
would get relegated in to a playoff format

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with eighty teams, which sounds crazy, but then your playoffs are kind of

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set by a seeding and ranking based
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and you have wild cards just like
football does. And this was been heard

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by the ACC the Big Ten,
the Big twelve, and the SEC had

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dinner meetings, planned to discuss this
with this group, and then they ended

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up canceling them recently together because they're
greedy a holes. Yeah, I would

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think the SEC would want nothing to
change. Yeah, they don't, and

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they're turning themselves into the Super League. Yeah, so why would we want

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to slow down our progress to help
the masses? Well, and that's a

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short sighted way to look at it, but it is a self serving way

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to look at it. For them, the amount of money they can make

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on this, I believe is infinite. But the Super League would change everything,

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and in a good way, I
think, Whereas the way it's changing

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now, I can't tell you if
it'll be good or bad because I don't

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know what they're gonna do. But
there are a lot of schools and fans

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of schools which would be fans of
the sport who know they don't have a

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chance, They have nothing to hope
for. We could do really well,

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we would never be considered. They
are teams that could go undefeated and not

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get in the playoffs. Now that's
changed a little bit now that they've expanded

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the college football playoffs, which they've
needed to do for a long time,

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and it was always a money making
opportunities. Were stupid that they've done that?

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Is it next year or next year? How many do we get?

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I'll go to twelve. Okay,
that's awesome, it's great, it's so

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good. And here's the where it
all comes down to, really like money

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that they don't want to upset ESPN
and Fox and CBS and all these you

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know, broadcast partners. We'll see. I think they signed an eight billion

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dollar extension with ESPN to carry the
college football Playoff. The Big ten has

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a deal through thirty They just signed
a deal with CBS. It's not SEC

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on CBS anymore. The Big twelve
signed a TV deal through twenty thirty one.

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The SEC has an exclusive deal with
ESPN running through twenty thirty four.

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So it's probably not gonna happen.
That's what prevents all this stuff from happening.

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But what if the SEC can loses
power because of transfer portal and things

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like that. They probably won't,
but they're really trying to figure out what

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they're going to do. Are we
going to turn this into four super conferences?

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They don't specific a buddy who works
for a smaller the American Athletic Conference,

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which has well had SMU s.
SMU is now in the ACC,

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SMU is in the Atlantic Coast Conference, and definitely nowhere near the Atlantic Coast.

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Let me speak for Danny as well
as myself that please God, who

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cares nothing whips for Oh no,
no conference. What conference are we in?

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Now? I don't because they've made
it so muddy you can't follow it.

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This saves it. Well, yeah, but this is just some pipe

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dream because they have billion dollar TV
deals running into the twenty thirties, Like,

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yeah, you can talk about this, but they won't violate those and

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the big conferences are not gonna say, yeah, let's stop printing money and

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take a big chance. And the
only way you do it is to get

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everyone agreed to it and start it
in like twenty thirty three or whenever that

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last big deal goes out. It's
just not gonna happen. Yeah, there's

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a reason that all of the heads
of these conferences collectively canceled their lunch meeting.

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Yeah, because some underling you know, agreed to this a couple of

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weeks ago, and then the main
dude is going through what's on the agenda

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for today. Well, we've got
this lunch meeting for this super league.

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You know what, why don't we
go ahead and just cancel that? And

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uh, I'm gonna go sip some
what do they drink mint julibs on my

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verenda instead? All plantation owners,
Danny, aren't they? They kind of

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some of them actually ever been to
a combine? Good lord? I look,

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I love it, and I feel
like nowadays people who are ambitious with

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ideas like this maybe have more of
a chance. I did, because there's

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communication and things do change a lot. I mean, you would have never

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thought that those that the conferences we
had would be exploded and changed as much

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as they are. So I guess
they're in all of the defection. Yeah,

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from current good looks. It's one
thing to move from you know,

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the big sky or the sky Tin
conference or some weird ass satellite conference to

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a bigger conference, But moving from
the Big twelve to the SEC why was

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that ever even allowed? And that
there's be lawsuits over this? Because this

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and there's gonna be nil lawsuits.
The NCAA, a lot of their conferences

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are about to go bankrupt if they
lose this big lawsuit that's been hanging over

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their head, and that's part of
this super league's Okay, so this guy,

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this is what sucks. The committee
that's created the super league is called

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College Sports Tomorrow. Okay. But
I used to stroll my eyes and stuff

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like this and go no, And
then I saw what happened with LIV and

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the PGA Tour, which is different, I know, but the fact that

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you could have an earthquake come in
and shatter everything is possible. Yeah.

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Not in the NFL really, not
in the NBA. Nothing totally game change.

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The thing I could see that happened
with the NBA is finding a way

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to go global with international teams if
they wanted to do that. But I

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think that's down the road. But
I think this is where they're gonna go

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realize, Okay, we might be
better doing something like this if we lose

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this lawsuit and then you need more
money. And that's what they're basically kind

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of saying with this group is like, Okay, well, we're just telling

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you this could be better for you. It eliminates all that conference crap that

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we all hate anyways, which you
know, traditionalists will still like it.

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But I think if these this nil
lawsuit is bad because they weren't paying people,

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okay, and now all of a
sudden they are. So these people

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who weren't getting paid are like,
well, f you, this is a

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class action lawsuit that is going to
bankrupt some a lot of colleges and that's

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how is that good? There's one
hundred and thirty teams in FBS, so

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I think, like, I think
they should listen. Why not listen?

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I don't know, I'm just thinking
about it. Why not listen to it?

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I think it's a volatile thing right
now, and I think NIL has

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freaked out everyone and we have like
what fourth thousand kids in the transfer portal

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every off season. Now, like
the loyalty of the student athlete is no

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longer with any school they transfer the
hell out of it. The loyalty for

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school the conference is completely gone.
So yeah, I think a lot of

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the smaller schools and conferences would listen
and want to be part of this.

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But the power is in the hands
of the SEC and the big ten more

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than any other. Think about how
more valuable because they have the biggest briefcases.

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Yeah, and getting bigger and poaching
the other big schools like they've almost

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done it. They've almost succeeded in
the Pac twelve the take, yeah it's

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gone, and the Big twelve.
Yeah, sort of, they're hanging in

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there, but YE have kind of
snuffed them out. Yeah. Uh,

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And it would make I think more
and no one thinks about the it's a

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it's the little man should be thought
of here because there's one hundred and thirty

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schools and that's where it's like they'd
be valuable content by making some those games

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matter to more people. Then if
you're already paying them anyways via nil,

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if you're kind of taking care of
that, you're just doing NFL junior,

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why not do it and in a
more I don't know, structured way that's

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not illegal. No, I like
this, it might be illegal. And

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American sports fans have often been curious
about that relegation system and feeling how it

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would apply to a sport here.
And it's certainly interesting and yeah, college

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football is a great one, but
I don't know how how that would ever

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make it all the way through.
It'd be it'd be a long road,

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I think. Uh. On the
same topic here, I have some audio

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of John Rahm Okay, John Ram
Sports at seven. No, it's Uh,

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it's not because I got a couple
of coway things. I want to

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run by you, guys. But
John Raum won the Masters last year.

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Guys, remember that what a day
won the Masters. I like John Ram.

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John Raum was like John Ram,
so he went to live and then

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you don't hear from him much because
he's quiet and he doesn't talk a lot.

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But he didn't interview with ESPN's Marty
Smith. It's kind of interesting.

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This is uh, John Ram being
asked why live was right for him?

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Why was liv golf the right decision
for you? Well, the best way

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I can explain it is Live Golf
wasn't a thing or a possibility for us

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growing up. PGA Tour was the
pinnacle of golf. Right, this is

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a new change, a big change, And I don't want to skip through

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this point because there's no point a
big change on the way the golfers get

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compensated. I'll be lying if I
said he wasn't a big part of it.

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In a nutshell, I'm getting paid
more to play the same sport and

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have more time. I don't know
about most people. That sounds great to

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me. Thank you for saying it. Jesus finally, God, yeah,

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Phil off To gets tiptoed around,
and we all know it's the reason they

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handled a large bag of money.
Isn't that what we all want? We

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want to make make more money and
have more time to ourselves. That's the

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American dream. I know he's not
American, but that is truly yea more

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time, more time to to do
what scour scour the porn sites. So

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that's a very honest reply. Yeah, and he's always struggling because it's funny

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to watch these live dudes do interviews
like why do you choose live? Oh,

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it's just an exciting opportunity, you
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know I do. They'll touch on
you know, my family comes first,

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which is a force field that you
can't really argue with, but it's it's

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a massive bag of money to do
the same job. That's why it felt

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like he fought it for a minute
because, oh, there's no point in

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skipping over this. Two years ago
though, he came out and publicly said

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I am committed to the PGA tour, and Marty Smith said, what made

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that change? From when I said
that, circumstances changed the PGA tour and

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PIF got into this agreement framework and
they agreed to maybe work together in the

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future. I think it opened my
mind too. Well, maybe I've been

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a little bit close minded towards this, and maybe I should give myself a

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chance. Right as an athlete and
entertainer, I think I owe it to

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myself to hear the other side out, and that's what I did. What

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were your biggest concerns prior to that
moment? I think that my biggest concern

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a little bit of negative media backlash. The way I see it at the

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end of the day is I have
the right to do what I think is

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best for myself and my family,
period or six hundred million dollars, I

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don't know, that's the answer.
I kind of like how he did it,

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though, because he did he stood
his ground. Yeah, he said

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no for a year years and then
the news busts that live Gulf Ball at

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the PG, which we don't even
know what the hell that means. But

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there was some sort of merger.
We definitely or near merger. And then

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you can watch that new full Swing
Rory rom They're all going palms up like

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I'm sorry what we've been fighting against
this and standing tall and standing with you

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spears in hand, and now I'm
sorry what And I think John Ram that

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day said okay, and he went
back to live and probably got one hundred

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million less than whatever his initial offer
was. And he said, where's my

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pen? And that's why I wouldn't
be surprised if Rory still does it,

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because Rory was the loudest one.
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you know how when people pivot and
make a different decision on something they were

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perceived to be dug in on,
and they'll double down in some way or

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try to wriggle their way off of
the hook, or or lie or just

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out and out lie and you and
it's so obvious. He said what everybody

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should say is, yeah, I
felt this way. Then circumstances changed.

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I reevaluated, and I changed my
mind. What is the shame in all

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of us doing that? No one's
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everyone's kind of like, all right, I guess you had to do what

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you had to do here. He
was scared that that he was going to

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sit there say no to let's call
it two hundred and fifty million dollars.

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It may have been more than that. Whatever three hundred million whatever, say

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no to that, and then wait
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there's some merger and we're all together
anyway, and all the guys who fought

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the good fight in finger quotes don't
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and all these guys who are now
back anyway have a couple hundred million

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dollars. He was scared of that, and he's as quick as he could.

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I bet said, all right,
fine deal, do it. We're

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all gonna be back in the same
spot eventually anyway, so why not do

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it with three hundred million dollars in
my pocket? Is the moral dilemma of

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here we go here, okay,
crazy adress. Every golfer who goes to

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live has to answer the question,
what about the sportswashing allegations? I think

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the fact that they've made an effort
to be involved with the PGA Tour and

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support the PGA Tour all along is
a testament that they're not there to take

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over and make the PGA Tour go
away. I think it is that simple.

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I never knew if that was the
goal or not, but after talking

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to the people in church, I
know that's not the that's not the goal.

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That's wrong. Greg Norman wants the
PGA Tour demolished. He's wrong.

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He's either naive or he's lying,
but he is. That is not Greg

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Norman wants nothing more than the the
PGA Tour thrown off a cliff into shark

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infested waters, preferably off the coast
of New Zengle, New Zealand, and

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he'll be one of the sharks swimming
down under. He's the great white shark.

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Have you talked to Rory and Tiger? What do you think think you

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said for Rory and Tiger? Wrong? Yeah, no, to be tight

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with both of them. Who was
it that said Tiger would didn't return his

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calls anymore after? Who after flipped
capa? Yeah, I think you ready

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for this? Yeah, Rory?
Well, I mean Rory has been supportive

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publicly of my decision, and uh
he was privately as well. Tiger.

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No, not really. I'm in
Tiger. I texted him and the people

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that try to reach out you know, the process when I signed, and

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I just let him know, Hey, you know, this is a personal

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decision. I have nothing against anybody. I want to make one thing clear.

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You fellowed I was still supported PG
turn DP World Tour. I'm not

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giving up, and there's still some
events I would love to absolutely play,

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no doubt about it. If my
schedule allows, I would go on playing.

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He's like everyone else though, oh
well him more than anyone else.

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I'd love to take the live money
and also play in some PGA Tour events,

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right, And that's wh the PGA
Tours like right now. They are

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right inevitable that this will get back
together. He'll get back together, and

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he'll have a quarter of a billion
dollars in his pocket. This is the

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last one. This is really interesting
to me because I, well, again

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he's the Master's Champion defending his title
next week. I'm very hopeful that there'll

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be a path back to all of
those things. But I can confidently say

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that if I hadn't won the Masters
this year, I don't know if I

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would have done it. It definitely
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it's easier to make that change.
And if I hadn't won a major,

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if I would have ever done it. Basically, I want a major,

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so now I can play in the
Masters every time. So I'll just do

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that and the tournaments that matter.
We get to play in those. I

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mean, he said he wouldn't have
done it if he didn't win the Masters,

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he would have stayed. He'd already
won a US Open though. Yeah,

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and live golfers are in the Masters, I guess some of them,

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those that, yeah, are good
at some of them. So basically,

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these guys can play in the majors, right, most of them. Those

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they are qualified, They are qualified, and they don't have to grind it

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out playing the valeros of the world. And I have to deal with san

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Antonio man funkin' intilm on the fifteenth. You playing to live in Miami this

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week. Yeah, they don't money. Yeah, they don't have to roll

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the dice in these tournaments that you
might not even make the cut, right,

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and you may and you make zero
moneis whereas you know, you play

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in the sanctioned live events, I
guess, and you've just got a guaranteed

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paycheck and it's a lot. Yeah. I thought that he was very honest.

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I questioned a little bit about his
response to the you know, the

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moral question that has to be asked. He kind of sidestepped that he didn't

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know what to say, But what
do you say anyone listening, I'll just

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apply it to you too. Listen, here's my offer. You only have

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to do a show Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. We're gonna make it

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a two hour show. Yeah,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna pay you in

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a lump sum, the entire sum
of every dollar you've ever made in your

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entire life. Okay, are you
interested? Do you want to talk?

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Now? You're meeting with a guy
that represents a you know, a country

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that is known for X, y
Z, yeah and all the other letters.

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And that's very terrible. Where's the
it's really Yeah, you look done

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in our country. Where's the masters
is exactly hallowed Brown? Yeah. Oh

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well, I'm sick of that stuff. Let's talk some sports. Yeah,

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okay, we haven't done it yet. Sports and Seven's next, Cowboys Draft

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primer I got. I'm gonna how
about some hockey talk? Oh, it's

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some hockey. We're gonna get you
hard next