Hey, everybody, thanks for joining us for this video instead of doing a
lot of yak and I've got a real interesting guy on the line here,
and I'm just gonna wind him up and turn him loose. Eddie, how
are you doing I'm doing, Frank Cow, how are you doing? Good?
Eddie's sick. He's come down with a sinus infection or something, and
he's still doing this recording with me. So I appreciate you doing that.
I'll apologize to my voice. I know it sounds like a mental barrel to
me. I don't know what I say. I like you guys. Oh
it sounds beautiful. Just you could sing a song man, we'd be happy.
I doubt that. Well, tell us now you're in Georgia and you've
got tell us a little bit about your your hunting. Is it a hunting
leash you have or is it property? Largely belost to my boss, and
it's a place we take what we've We've taken clients there from thirty I've been
there thirty three years and I've been taking clients. It's just a good place
to take and it's been quality time. And over the years I've became really
friends with them as opposed to just business acquaintances. We've we've experienced a lot
of things together, and anyone that's listened to those two videos you did,
those were folks that I take hunting, and that was just something that happened.
And then, really the first time I experienced was that animal I saw
in coleg North Carolina, visiting my girlfriend in college. I didn't know what
it was. The only contrast I had was a family in my hometown had
a given aid to me. The length of the arms and the frame around
the face. It just looked like a very big version of that animal just
stealed out good a little bit better. I mean, I had to come
up with a rational reason why I'm seeing an eighth of a tree on a
mountain in North Carolina. That made no sense at all. I anticipate that,
and and honestly, had it not whistled, how to walk right under
it would have been to my right, but I was. It was basically
almost at my twelve o'clock. It was it was, it was at one
one one, But I would have walked under it. I had never seen
if it had whistled. You know, I've listened to enough to know that
during the day, they will put sentries out to warn the group. And
there's some dummy like me walking in the woods and I think perhaps I may
have caught him napping. I have no idea, but he let me get
way too close because the whistle, as I said in what I wrote,
it was the first part of a Because you know he raised in the South,
you anticipate the white park coming out, not just Bob. And in
that case, it was the high pitch of it. And I'm not a
good whistler, but it was a Bob White and it just didn't finish,
and it was so close I couldn't help but look directly at where it came
from. I was looking dead at a face, and I just went went
up the tree and there he was. He was hanging on to the center
of the tree, and his right arm was on the limb above, and
he was trying to keep the center of the tree tween. Because I could
clearly see that. But when I moved to my left to check for tale,
I did it couldn't be a monkey was too big, but I had
to check. I was a senior in college fixing to be an employed,
hopefully productive citizen. My thought, that's why I never said anything about it.
I didn't need to trying to get a job in the real world,
and people thinking this guy's nuts, he's seeing things in the tree. So
I never heard about it. And actually I've never seen anything until I told
my older friend. I mean, we were literally raised together, and then
he was by the end we both had kids, and he looked at his
son and they both rolled a rise, and I couldn't talk, you know,
And honestly, if I hadn't seen it, I don't know about to
believe need because it's not it's not normal. We both raised. He hunted,
I hunted. I was raised in the woods and little place south of
my hometown and still got land there. And I never saw anything like that.
I heard. I heard my relatives, my aunts and my granty and
all the day been here full of dark to voters to get you. But
quite frankly, and I just thought that was something that told us. I
never saw one, and I was deep in the woods and you could go
and stay, stay on the property with my uncle own. It got very
interesting to me after I realized, you know, I listened to a few
things and U, you know, listening to you know, Tim Baker and
those guys talking, and I said, well, there's some guys from the
South like me, and they they see them too, and that their their
stories were credible. So it helped me in my mind rationalized what I had
saw. And then after I ended my what I went to college to do,
I was a coach and a teacher, and I started taking clients hunting.
I would take clients to the tree. Back then, we were you
know, in the business run where we're real safety conscious, and we bought
the best stands we could buy to make sure no one of that hurt and
nobody fell out. It had safety bars and straps, and I would have
to go out early and the turn buffles full the seed that started, make
sure tree hadn't grown into it and didn't have vines and thanks blocking their views.
And when I was out there alone, I would hear for them.
You know you were making excuse for voices, You're making excuse for loud noises.
I can umber. One morning I took everybody to understand. And that
was back when I'd actually said And I got in my stand and I had
no longer. I had been that stand five minutes I heard a conversation back
toward where I parked my truck. Now, this truck is parked on twenty
one hundred acres and it's the only vehicle on the place. You know,
my inclination was, somebody's walked in here, I've got coaches. I got
down out of the tree and I went. Of course, I never found
any anybody, but it was distinctly a conversation someone who gave instruction, and
somebody had knowledged the one note. There was no doubt about it was a
conversation, but it was not. I just thought my hearing was support.
I couldn't understand it. I didn't realize I was listening to an entirely different
language. That was an instance, and there was another occasion, same thing.
I just got in my tree and it sounded like someone through a cocusing
out of top the seats, because I heard it come through the tree limbs
and when it hit the ground and I literally felt the impact via the stand
being stuck in the ground. That's how much of an impact it was.
What was it? What were they throwing? They weren't throwing anything. I'm
convinced now because that code machine ran off and I felt it run off.
I just assumed from the impact of the footsteps that it jumped out of a
tree from a pretty good height. Now what made it do that, I
don't know. I have no idea because I didn't have I was pretty conscientious
about knowing where my people were, hopefully not on the ground. I didn't
want them shooting on the ground. I wanted them shooting fo you know,
down so the impact of the bullet would be in the ground. After years
of taking them honey, I got comfortable that they knew what they were doing.
They weren't gonna hurt each other, they weren't gonna kill one another,
So you know, I relaxed all the little rules I put on them because
I was confident no one was gonna get hurt to actually knew what they were
doing. That was basically how I came to know there was something out there,
and oftentimes I never It wasn't like the time in North Carolina when I
actually had a visual eye to eye was one I never had that. It
was always something in my perithheal, some noise and movement, or it was
something that was there and it was no longer there. Like one morning I
took people to their stand, my truck pulled up. My headlights were dead
on a stump. It looked like an old burned out lightning struck half stone
at an angle. It was gnarley like, had moss on it, nothing
to it. I cut the truck off, took them to the stand,
came back out. Well. By then I put sitting. I didn't hunt
anymore personally. I'd go back to a and make coffee and ate and then
go retrieve them from the designated time. When I cranked the trunk up and
the high beams came on, I just sat there and look because the stump
was gone. It wasn't there normal. Now, I know stumps don't walk,
so obviously what I what I saw as a stump. Want the stump.
That's something else they have up and I say they this animal has an
ability to turn into what you want it to be, like a stump.
If they turn around and squad down, you will not see an animal.
You'll see a stump where you'll see something that's natural in the forest. You
will not like a water brush or something or something exactly. But the only
reason I knew anything was it was in the dead center my headlights. And
then when I cranked the trunk back up. It was gone, and stump
don't run off, just like coach machines don't run off. But that's what
it sounded like when it came down out of that tree. It's an interesting
subject, it really is. Now you've you've you've become familiar with, at
least you think that's the alpha on the spl I've always I always called it
Big George because when I come toeck stands by myself, I'd always hear a
call. That's what it sound like me, you know, like you would
hear on National Geographic, for example, you would hear of a gorilla or
a big chimp, and that's what it sounds like. A call to me.
I'd always speak said, hey, big guy, I'm here. It's
just me. And you know, I never saw anything. I just I
just assumed it was him letting me know that you know, I'm here,
I know it's you. No problem. But that that was kind of an
inside joke for me and him, I guess because I never I never actually
had a visual owning. I did see movement from one tree the next in
my Parisian at times. I never had a reason to be scared, you
know, other than the turkey hunting experience I shared with your readers. Now,
that did scare me because I knew it was big, and I knew
it was close, and I knew I was not that big, and what
I was holding was not digg enough. I gave strong consideration just to breaking
and running then leaving my bucket, but I did, and I sat there.
I don't know, uh, well, just kind of kind of rehashed
the whole story in case somebody hadn't heard it. Just run briefly, Well,
I was, I was turkey hunting, and I was really a novelous
hunt. Had gotten into that kind of late in life, and that a
friend that was just crazy about it, and he was real good at and
he had gone with me a couple of times, and the only turkey I'd
ever killed he had caught that morning. He couldn't go hunting because I called
and asked want to go, honey, and said, now I can't go.
He had something else going on. But he had given me a little
pushbutton hen called a decoy, the same one I'd used the first time I
killed the turkey. And the decoy literally half of it would fall off most
of the time. It was all had so my apartment truck, and I
was doing it kind of like deer hunt. I wanted to be four daybreak
and let everything settle down. I walked in. It was three third and
a half mile the trunk to the tree. The tree was not far from
my personal deer stand and had some very large roots at the base. This
tree was seven eight three wide at the base. I don't know two hundred
fifth tril year old tree had been there wayful I got here. Anyway,
my dove bucket would literally fit into the two roots, you know, coming
down out of the tree, and I could recess back up in the tree
kind of a concave, and I just thought that was a way to be
camouflaged. So I set my deepcoin and got on my bucket and it was
still, it was just breaking daylight, and I sat there and one thing
Keith had taught me was don't go crazy with the call. Just do it
as light as you can. They have great hearing, but as if they
see you, then I come. So I was sitting still recessed in the
tree out getting very conscious of being you know, unseen, and I'd heard
several gobblers come down off the route they were one hundred nine and fifty yards
away. They make a good little bit of noise when they fly down,
and I knew they were on the ground. So I by the end of
the sun had been up fifteen twenty minutes. It was it was some was
coming up round seven seventy ten something like that, and I figured it.
I didn't have a watch on what I figured it was probably like seventy thirty
when I heard what I thought was the golblers coming off the route. So
I hit my little button a couple of times, just trying to get somebody
to fancer. I didn't get an answer, but I heard a good little
bit of fuss coming from behind it from the direction of the river or whatever
it was was not trying to be quiet, and I had thought about it
then, you know, maybe a couple of deer, or maybe a bunch
of hogs. I'm pretty pretty conscious about pretty conscious about hogs, because my
mother had a grain off of this story she told me when I was a
little being in the woods and then men avoiding hogs of wild Farrell hogs because
he had either fell in the pin, cut himself a smell blood, or
had a heart attack, but Anyway, they ate him up and they found
his glass rain as belt buckle, And let us say that was pretty impressionable
on the little board and pretty impressionable on old old guy sitting in on a
bucket a hundred of tree. I was. I didn't I didn't want to
get walked on by a bunch of hogs because I'd already had this house.
You know, you walk on salads and pigs. She's not what you want
to be around. No, I mean I already had to drop the hammer
on one for that raison. You know, you don't want to shoot the
when they got a little ones, But I didn't want to get either by
the hall. So I was listening very intent, and whatever this was was
coming, it wasn't trying to hide the fact it's coming, and it seemed
pretty intent on my big tree I was under, or the general direction.
Now, this thing was seventy five eighty yards back I could tell by the
sound, and the river was probably a hardy hoars behind. So I find
it concluded. This is not a deer. That's not some on four legs
at all. It's got two legs, and it's got a bee line on
this tree. So I was sitting there listening, and it came. It
kemp coming and I got to notice now heavy and how long the stride was
between the steps, and I got a little concerned. But you know,
I was sitting there my old the flail gage or note didn't didn't have had
five in it. There were three inch magnets number four shots. So I
figured, ain't much gonna take this. From close range, I should be
okay. But the closer a guy, the more impact those footfalls made.
I got real and comfort. When that guy within thirty or forty feet of
the tree, I could tell this was a large individual. As it got
to the back of the tree. Now they're still there's still ten fifteen feet
between us, because that tree was enormous. I smelled it, and it
smelled a lot like a body odor. It smelled like something I smelled growing
up. You know, I'm when Georgia and Middle George. Anyway, you're
gonna smell what heat would do the people perspiring and he's and I used the
expression of twelve piece picktures, but it could have been anybody's loading hair.
And you're out there sweat and then July Son in Georgia, you're not gonna
smell very good. And this high school he had a drong spell to him
and add a little bit of a I went dog tends to it and when
he when he when he blew air a friend of mine. She had a
belt and draft horse. And I'd heard that thing take sale many times,
and only something that weighs a lot didn't make that much noise, just ea
saving. And that's when I got I really got scared. I realized that
this thing's enormous. I almost broke round. I didn't broke broke, and
I just sat there, you know, all kinds of rabbits run over my
grave. My hair was standing up, I was tingling. I was almost
I don't know how to describe it. I was almost feeling digit because it
took him ten minutes to get to me. I listened to this for a
long time, and I had the option of breaking and running when it was
still a hundred yards from it, and I didn't do it. Now,
of course, I was regretting that, and that moment I was I wish
I just got my bucket and he went to the truck. But I didn't
know. I didn't know that it was poaching somebody trespassing, but I was
pretty sure it wasn't the person at that point in time. Then the smell
went away, and I was trying to smell and the sound there was no
sound at all. There was just no sund no other sound. No no
birds, no squirrels, no no armadillas over there nosing around in the leaves
like it did earlier. So I didn't know what to do. He made
so much noise coming to me, and then all of a sudden it got
dead quiet. You know, I had a choice. I can break run
or I cat to sit here. I didn't figure this animal knew while I
was there, because I hadn't made him. No. I was completely recessed.
The only way known I was there was smelling, and I didn't have
I didn't spray my boots down or anything like that like I do. There
a hunting because I was turkey hunting. I didn't think that was in the
necessary thing. So I sat there, and I sat there a good little
bit two I sat there between thirty and forty five minutes. Well after that
amount of time, I didn't hear anything, I didn't smell anything. It
couldn't have climb that tree. It was just two dead dumb wide at the
base and the walking to limb for a long time. After I did,
I stood up and grabbed my bucket and I started walking. I didn't even
look back. And it's gonna get this. It's gonna get me anyway.
And I had my gun in one hand and my bucket in the other,
and I walked pretty fast, and I was headed towards my truck, and
I didn't look back till I was out the mum the last mont. I
made sure if there was something in that tree coming down on me, I
wasn't gonna know it to look, so I looked back. I didn't seen
nothing. I never broke stride. I kept walking. I got all the
way to track, all the way to truck. I'm sorry, And my
watch was hanging on the gear ship. I was to my watch and it
was cooler level teen forty five, and I thought I thought we watch was
from I said, ain't no way, I ain't away, it's this lake.
But then you know, cranked up or got to the gate and I
left. You got homeless about a twenty minute ride back of the house.
And it was eleven thirty quarter to twelve when I got home. So I
was just that kind of blew me away. I didn't know, And I
hate to get all Louie and say I lost time or something strings like that,
but something went on because I just didn't feel like I sat there that
long. I was scared. I get I was scared. Well, that's
what I said in the video that it sounded like you had a lost time,
But you know, I don't. You don't know, and therefore I
don't know, but I'm curious. I would have My impulse would be to
stand up, turn around and look behind that tree. But did you had
you had experience with these things before that, so you feel well, I
you know, i'd heard things, I didn't see anything. I'd had the
experience of hearing the conversation, hearing the coke machine get the ground and run
off. I've had the experience of seeing the stump there and not there,
but the actual experience of having something that big walk up on it and knowing
it's that close. I wasn't really want to see the stunt. Well that's
why, don't get me wrong. Everybody's going to do something different, and
I have no idea what I would do. It's perfectly understandable you didn't want
to turn around, but gone gone with it. Well, if I turned
around, I would have had the guide up and walk a good five or
six of my steps still seen behind this tree. I think it's hard to
describe the tree as big a system was when finally got it. A matter
of fact, it's still out there. It's a rootball now. The win
got it. It didn't have the block it used to have said, but
it's just a big root ball now. But I bet the root balls twenty
feet it's it's huge. After it, it made the exhale, and it
was it had the Belgian draft Clydesdale exhale. I realized this was a very
large alm. I didn't feel like I wanted to be, you know,
seven eight feet from this thing, whatever it was. But once it went
quiet, I didn't know what to do. I mean, I don't know
how you shut off smell. I don't know you can make that much noise.
And then all of a sudden, all that just stopped. I was
kind of hesitant to even say this. I feel more comfortable talking about the
kids laughing because I had two people with me, you know, Jordan and
VJ was there, so you know, I don't feel as you know,
take my words to this type thing like I did. You know, on
this occasion, I was right by myself when I was in color Way.
I found myself when I have two guys with me. My brother was with
me one time down in Flawda gold fishing, and we had a cat run
across the road in front of us. It was two thirty three o'clock in
the morning. We were flat fishing trout, red fishue. We were just
trying to get to camp for daylight and you know, be the first boat
out of the creek. Back then, I was just addicted to flattish and
I couldn't I couldn't do anything. I couldn't hunt anymore. I couldn't do
anything I used to. I had one was the one track mind. I
had a nineteen foot skiff behind me. Yeah I was, I really was.
And this was a two a state road, not very wide, and
I mean nothing on it. When you make that turn it cut over to
a little place called Shady Grove. You probably run twenty miles and you don't
see anything. It's just you know, the National forest on both sides of
the road. And this cap run across the road and he wasn't twenty sea
in front of the truck was probably wasn't doing forty five miles. And now
I was in no hurry. You know, my dead live was day daylight,
so I was in no hurry. Menji was talking. It ran across
the road in front of us, and then it turned right when it reached
the other shoulder and ran in my headlights for probably be seven eight nine seconds.
So I got a good look at it. Now, this was a
jaguar. There was no doubt in my mind. The pattern was just as
clear as if it had been the yellow version of the black pattern. But
this one probably black. But those headlights, the way it was shouted on
it, it was almost like it like a regular jaguar. The spot pattern
was so obvious. But what really shocked me was the size. My head
would have looked like a naval orange in its mouth. I mean, it
was enormous. And they say a jaguar won't go over to two fifty in
lay. Well, I'm an old football coach muscle mass or something gauge pretty
good. This thing was huge. I'm sure walking up on nine foot booger
in the woods scary, which I've never experienced that, but I would not
have wanted to walk on this thing because it was and it was all boy.
Now, I was looking at the east end of westbound cat and every
time that tall come up, there's no doubt it was. It was an
all boy that that blew me away, knowing something like that be in those
woods. And your brothers saw it too, Oh yeah, yeah, that's
really now, have any problem telling this story. I had a guy sitting
and my brother was sitting right in the truck with me. We both saw
it was. It was enormous. You know. We talked about you told
me that story the other day, and I mentioned that what you thought about
maybe an exotic animal keeper turning one loose or something like that. They're not
usually not black. That's a panther from South America. That's where those things
are. But I've heard quite a few people have told me they've seen them
frough deer stamps, but none of you said they were that bed. I
had a conversation last week with a friend of mine over in West Tennessee who
I used to work with and we hunted together forever. I moved away and
we still get together once a while, but he's he's always he would hear
we'd hear stories like that, and I'd say, hey'd you hear about a
cap you know, in Madison County or Chester County, hertem Accounty. He'd
say, Oh, that's all a bunch of bull I talked to him last
week. He got one on a trail camp and he called the TWR and
told them about it, and they told him that they do not exist in
Tennessee. But he's got a picture. He goes, I'll send you a
picture of it. And they don't even want to look at it. It's
crazy, and that that kind of makes you wonder why there's such a violence
and a relacable better word, a violent reaction. You know, I don't
try it to somebody calling me a lie. You know that's the reason I
will always has to tell the story and tell aween because by myself. But
when you got people with you and they can corroborate what you're saying, and
that kind of makes it a different situation. You know, you get interested
in you listen to people talk about currencies that happened to them, and someone
gets hurt, or someone has a video, or someone is huge one at
point blank range with a twelve gage with a slug. I heard one,
and it hadn't been terribly long ago. I've been six eight months ago where
a guy shot one. His wife called him from work. The cows were
up in coror depends and knocked the fence down. She must have called him
half dozen times to work. He finally got off work, come home,
called the neighbor said, we got coodie. Probably my cows tearing the fence
down. He had a dozen head of cows and they were grouped up in
probably at twenty but twenty corner of the fencer when he got home, so
whatever it was, they were scared. So he gets his neighbor. They're
getting the side to side. One of those suited up was not like a
golf cart when I was using one of those things run fifty miles an hour.
But they went down in the woods and it was dark, and he
looks up on the left bank of the road to ride down, and there
stood a thing that definitely does not exist except in the movies van one of
those one of those werewolf movies or something. And his neighbor shoots at point
blank with a slum, blows the blows. The factra muscle slap just explodes
and they and they do on one eight and they're going out of there as
fast as that thing will carry him. And he looks up and the thing
is running side the side, almost sticking his head in the door. And
then and then he says, it leaks down and he could tell where his
hand was because it was dam in his headlights. It was slow with the
vehicle dam and his neighbor who had a shot gun, had done short stroke
that gun and had a shell jam. He finally got that shell on jam
and stuck the muzz left gun across his face because he was driving. And
when that thing saw that gun barrel come out, it off. But then
he had the call the game Wardan game warden come out lowing behold of He
told him, you're gonna get a visit. And sure enough, the next
day his lands covered up with folks that he don't know, and on marked
then every trail can he had. He had about fourteen trail cams on his
property. He was a deer hunter. Like every sen party had out there
was gone. You know, he had all kinds of trouble, you know,
subliminal threats and such, and I don't know, I don't understand that
part of it. There must be something that they're not telling us. Obviously,
it's bad enough that you see something like that, and then the folks
is supposed to do something about it, behave in a manner that I don't
know. I don't I don't even want to interject anything there. But there's
something to this that we don't know. Yeah, and the people that show
up I did said something about it. I think one or two videos back
about some people out west kind of they're almost being harassed by some of these
people, but it's because they've told other people or reported it to, you
know, who they would think are the proper authorities, and it just causes
problems for him. The people don't come to help. They they just caused
more and more problems for him. I think people are getting reluctant to to
report these things, and especially unless unless you're somebody like me. I'm a
little more educated now, but I mean a couple of years ago i'd have
seen something like that, I'd have called the game warden right away. Oh
yeah, but I don't know if I would now. I don't know if
I would those two the two BJ and uh what was his uh daddy's name.
Jordan was a son right and bj was a daddy. No, now
they were just um related at that time. Jordan got an old enough to
come by myself a dad and quick theremenka. But you know I was I
was just taking family members hunting. They got they got roared at and screamed
at, and I'm wondering, did they still hunt with y'all down there?
Oh? Yeah, they came this November and we did a little walk that
a lot of timbers being cut down, so it hadn't It's not quite the
same as it was that that's that night we heard the kids laughing. There
was no way I was in the same thing. I mean, that's just
too far out There's one o'clock in the morning, went a swamp. There
ain't no way there's kids in that bottom. And then Genorgan said, did
you hear those kids? You know? All I could think of things?
Thank you? So I thought I'd lost my mind. It's bad enough I
just got walked around by sooning to come out of that bottom. To think
there were children down there, that that was just way too far out there.
And as soon as y'all hit that call, I mean, it was
almost instantaneous. That's if if I had tied the thing off and left it
down there they I mean, if I've been one of them. I said,
how did you do this? And I didn't do nothing. I just
went the spot. I thought, this has the right kind of topography,
has got a load. You know. I have studied enough to know they
liked roll a little bit. They don't want to get skyline. They don't
like it. They want stuff behind it. They don't want to be there.
They're small enough to see and then as you do see them, they
could turn into the fam store. It just makes you wonder, you know.
I listened to a story about two guys fishing and in a reservoir in
Ohio there was splashed by their little john fishing in a fourteen foot john boat
using a troll and motor. No less the guy in the battle the boat
they were because he said take me up there. I'm taking me. Well
this so and sos, but and that's not exactly what he said, but
something to that effect. And he said, I just saw him duck back
behind the tree. He when rock, says us, So he pulls up
there and guy gets out. So he picks up a rock and throws it
back well low and behold, it wasn't a person. We'll come out behind
that tree was a big, hairy, very unhappy guy. And he came
up then and hid him and knocked him into the boat, broke two ridge,
knocked him out and busted his face open. Was gone in a Middlesex
all. It all happened so fast. The guy in the back of the
boat, he just pulled him back into the bow of the boat, half
and half out. He assumed he was gone because he disarmed. He took
his pistol and the pistol he was carrying, and it went on for several
minutes, but they finally got out and he dragged him on into the boat.
He was bleeding real bad. He got back to the launch and tall
the police or sheriff department. They came out, and then those guys got
treated like they stole something. It just seems to be a constant if someone
gets hurt, someone has, you know, credible video or something, that
they treat it very untamed. Let's just say that that it just makes you
wonder what in the world, why would they do that? You know,
that brings up a topic that's deare to my heart. You know, a
lot of the ridicule that people have is from people in this bigfoot believing community.
That's what I'm No, I'm not either. I'm not a member of
any group. I told you that the other day, and I'm you told
me about one experience you had, and I've had a similar one, and
it's uh I think it's shameful that people will come forward with pictures or videos
or whatever. Now some of them are a little They may know what's in
the video, but and they may have seen it moving, but everybody else
can't see it. But they don't, they don't write. It doesn't rate
that kind ridicule in my opinion. I mean, we're all in a strange
way in this together. And uh so you're right. I mean what differences
they made too? Was the first person to saw him taking? Yeah,
it don't matter, it don't matter. It's just a hairy man in the
woods. It's interesting and I'm just amazed that people can behave the way they
do at times over there. I mean, if someone knows what it is,
they should tell us. I don't know what it is, and I
know I've never felt threatened other than the turkey hunting. And then and I'm
quite sure whatever was behind that tree could have hurt me if they wanted to,
and they didn't. Now they might have done something else that gave them
opportunity to go away. You know, I've always wondered that, why the
noise stop? Why the spell stopped? So we mean you have sign posts.
I don't think neither one of them stopped. I think my little thank
your part quit working. It's what I think that's interesting. Well, what
else could it be? I mean, I spelled it very strongly, I
heard it very vividly, and then all of a sudden, no smell and
no. I think I'm there thirty minutes and I'm there two hours in that.
In that period of time, whatever it was left, but I didn't
hear it leave. I sure didn't hear it come. That's true. I
don't know. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I think. I
think. Uh, you say you don't know what they are, and I
don't know what they are some kind of folks, I do, You and
I and everybody. I've never had an experience, but I would include myself,
you and I and thousands of other people know just as much about them
as the self proclaimed experts do, because there's no they don't. There's not
enough evidence to make a determination on anything, not anything, not any A
guy sent me some pictures of some tracks today that I think are fabulous,
and that's one of the best pieces of evidence. You know, it's it's
hard to fakes, but it's hard to fake them with you know, the
foot lines and the soul of your fate. And no, you can't.
You can't fake that unless it's a real thing. No. And the place
that I'm talking about where I take these people hunting, it's probably not forty
five fifty miles. It's crow flies from where the Elfin's Creek cast was cast.
And and that's the one that they set the standard by because it has
the dermal ridges or the fingerprints, that's what I called. And the distinguishing
what makes it an animal, so that it's not question does this thing exists.
I'm I've seen it, so I know it exists, but I don't
know what it is where it came from. But I've I've done some reading.
I'm fairly well educated. The cross breeding between the human and the Neanderthals.
The the thing that starts with a day that I probably would mispronounced the
Denizens or whatever they call them, the Heidelberg dude from Europe, all those
in. Any time you cross breed something, it doesn't matter what you're cross
breeding. If you cross the old line with the tyger, you're gonna get
a bigger animal than what you started with. It's gonna be bigger than either
of the parents. If you bring a male tiger to a female line,
or a male line to a female tiger the ligar, it's gonna be bigger
than either of them. I remember when when my daughter was little, a
gentleman was kind enough to give us tickets and backstage fastest to the shrine circus.
So I got to take my little three year olds to trine Tous and
go back to where the animals or they had eight hundred and fourteen pounds Siberian
tiger. Now eight hundred and fourteen pounds is a lot of cat and added
right there on the cage. I didn't I didn't doubt it for a minute
because it's paul bigger in both my hands, both monthy put together, they
was enormous. It also had about a five hundred pale male African line,
which is normal size. I didn't realize tigers got that big. But it
was a Siberian, which is the largest of the tigers. It also had
a male leopard and a male jaguine. Now, when they were sitting on
their little pedestals, everybody was growling and snarling at the other one, except
the jaguine when nobody talking to him, because it just looked like a more
primitive animal to me. I mean, nobody snarled and swatted at him.
The leopard was swatting at the line, and the line was swatting at the
tigers, vice versa. But that that jaguars they let him along. There's
a leason that well, it was the reason it's got about the highest jaw
pressure. Because any of the four big cats, and they were all represented
right there, only little pedestals. It's just a more primitive of the full
cats. In my opinion. You see them together and you will realize that
this is a different cat. It's just I know, it's a new world
cat, but it's it's different, you know, like they talk about how
old monkeys, that's a new World monkey. A lot of people say they
heard that in the woods. I haven't heard that. First, I'll tell
you what we did do, wasn't I the same two guys and I went
down there and we found an area called myself getting Smarter, where I could
park the golf cart and we could see what was coming. I didn't want
to get in the thick woods, a thick brush and get in the position
where I couldn't see what was coming. Because we were fixing the hit on
some trees and this stuff we probably shouldn't have been doing well. Big j
had him a good old Louisville sluggs and he walked over there and walked this
little old oak tree and he hadn't drawed the back back, and it wasn't
fifty feet. He was running. He was running left. Here was running
where you go? I mean, there's nowhere to go. You don't get
that golf thought. You think we're going out running than here where there's nowhere
to go. I mean, it was obvious. Something answered that, and
I mean it was real close, but we didn't see it. We didn't
see anything. Nothing made a vocalization with but that response was instant and it
was close, but it was It was kind of funny, you know,
the thing about these wooden knocks. Is I grew up in the city,
but I've spent so much time in the woods that I've gotten really used to
them. I mean, I'm fifty seven years old now and probably for the
last well, I mean since I was a teenager, I've always been trapsing
off in the woods doing something and I love to hunt by myself. You
never hear that wooden knocking from anything in the woods. It's just there's nothing
out there that can do that unless it's a human whack on a pine tree
with the lev a slugger. That's that's the only thing that could be,
or something with an arm that can grab a stick and whack the side of
a tree trunk with its arm. There's there's just no other way to explain
those things. And again, who knows what it is, but we think
we know what it is. To me, it's just folks. There's got
to be some kind of people. It's I don't think there's a I don't
think there's an animal smart enough to stay away from us as well as they'd
do without them being someone who would like us. And I remember it had
a conversation with someone a long time ago. Well they hadn't been that chair
to Gong, and I said, those things may have evolved, but we
will create. If we had evolved, we'd have better seats, we'd have
better pen we'd have better fingers, better elbows and needs. They've got all
that, they've got everything we build have. You know, I don't want
to get off in the religious to him, but there's no doubt in my
mind we will create. And even my college biology professor russ Hard, he
said there was no such thing as macro evolution, said, there's a lot
of micro evolutions, that everything will adapt to its environment, as far as
a big bang in a fair mecium. And now we're splitting at him.
No, I don't think that from one millisecond. Now. I heard a
guy say one time he was a big mega evolution believer until he looked at
his daughter's ear. It's such a perfect little organ that he knew, he
knew there had to be intelligent design behind it. We're almost two an hour
you've given us. I know you've given me a lot of things to think
about. You think about things in logical ways, and I appreciate that.
Is there anything else you could share with us that you think people would want
to know. Well, I just just keep your eyes and ears open if
you if you get in the woods, because there's there's obviously more than this
subject in the woods. And I hate to keep it going back with what
I've heard. And I did listen to a story about a guy there to
Sara Soda, who had gotten an older employee a job over at the state
park. And it's kind of well known there. It's it's it's East of
Sarah Soda stick with alligators and cotton mouse and every other credit that's this in
Florida. He was his dad on a basically a trash company. They hauled
off household resues to a landfill. And when when the guy got olden the
tire, he took his retirement. But he needs a little lecture income,
so he got him a job. And they known him all his life since
he was a little boy. And then the old guy called him and said,
I want you to come out here and let me let me show you
something I'm seeing. So he humored him and he asked me to show what
knight. You want to do this? He said, oh no, I
don't want to do this at night. I don't want to be out here
at nighttime, not with this thing. He said, well, when you
want to do it, said, just come out here about ten thirty eleven
o'clock. And I used to see him around Luce time when I meant him
the kids in the park. So then he goes out there and he humors,
and they're sitting there and there's a standing family. They're having a birthday
party for a child, and the child got one of those whatever you called
hanging in a tree. They're hitting with a stick and candy's coming out and
they're giggling and running. Everybody's having a big time. And then all of
a sudden, I got punks. Is there he is? And he looks,
and sure enough, there this thing is. And then he got his
full of a nundsided attention. Don't look a little kid. So he's got
his you know, his iPhone in his hand, so he puts it on
record. He said, I'm seventy five feet I got a full zoo.
I got this thing dead right. And I was really concerned that he was
it was gonna do something to one of those children, and said I was
just before opened the truck door, because this wasn't this was no normal book
this is one of those dog men type of planning. And by that time
two vehicles come back and they go down the road to a one eighty and
come right back to him, and one of them gets out to the female
on the mail. The mail comes over to this side of the truck and
said, I need your phone, because they went by he was video and
that time, and they knew what he had on that did they took his
phone, said you can pick it up at the ranger station on the way
out. So you know, they had a few words, and but he
he was satisfied. He really did work for the government in some capacity.
But then he went back and picked up the stone when they left. And
of course the lady that was in the other vehicle, she had a black
better turn like one of his glass like something you would listen. But it
was a minting a tone, and his dog was in the backseat, and
whatever this thing was a minting, it was killing that dog. I mean
it was qualling and putting his paws over his ears. And he actually told
him that whatever you're doing, stop if you're killing my dog. And so
the ladies shut it off. But the animal that they were pointing it at
had left and those kids were saved. But then he got out of the
park he started thinking about it. He pulled over side the road, sim
carve was going off his phone. All his contacts were gone, his work
was bidden underground utility. He looked at his laptop. It was washed clean.
There was nothing on that laptop at all. That's a perfect example of
whatever this is. It's not supposed to be it's not supposed to be recorded
or work. It's not supposed to be known, even if you do know
it. That's kind of bizarre. Well, I'll tell you what they're doing
a good job keeping it on to wraps. I mean, well, if
that's the intention, I guess so. But I just you hear it six
and seven and eight times different people hadn't talked to each other. I don't
know. I would just say, folks going in the woods, don't going
arms. I tell my little brother that all the time. I know,
he goes dumping all the time without messing. You know, it won't take
one time you wish you had something, just the discouragement. Yeah, I've
spent a little bit of time telling people and maybe this is bad advice,
but you know, I walk back here I've got five hundred acres behind me.
I don't own it, but my neighbor does, and he says,
just do you do whatever you want back there, And I ride my bike,
take my dogs. I go one night walks back there, just me
sometimes with the dogs. I never think about a thing. I never worry
about anything. I just enjoyed outdoors. And I've told people, just because
you hear these stories, don't be afraid to go enjoy nature. But maybe
that's bad advice. Well, I've been in him when I was a little
fel since sensor will tell. And I never thought about it, and nothing
come up and tried to eat me. I didn't. I didn't think any
more about it when I saw the thing in Coba League. But one thing
I will share with you. The first time I ever listened to any stories
about this particular subject, I was listening to Jim bakon Kombo Talk and he
was telling the story about his gread daddy on their phone, and his greend
daddy called these things catamounts, and I and when he said that, that
kind of just it's almost like some my through cold water roaming. Because Western
Carolina State University's mascot is a catamount. I'm thinking, well, that's odd,
and when he asked what it is, he said it's part bear,
part cat, and part monkey. And then I think, well, yeah,
my cover cover everything. But those guys with the Outlaws, they have
a long history with these things, and but I just I just thought that
was that was a heck of a coincidence. I was at Western Carolina State
when I saw them. Really the first one I resolved and their mask I
was Kadam the first time I ever listened to anybody talking about his granddad called
him academy. Right, we're we got about a minute to go before we're
at an hour, and I'm gonna we're gonna pass an hour. Nobody's gonna
listen to me, and you ye, I'm proud anybody does listen to me.
I'm a drum. I think I think everyone loved hearing you talk,
and I want to tell you how much I appreciate you doing that being sick
and all. Thanks for being my third interview victim. I don't know how
well these interviews were going to go, but this was extremely interesting and you're
a great storyteller. Well, kay, I can tell you the way you
did the first time I heard you're you telling the story. You do a
good job in the narration, do a great job pick in the intro music.
Because I'm Capricorn, middle Georgia raised person and I love to hear anybody
to play a dobo or slid it also. But just keep up the good
work, don't change anything you're doing. I'll listen to you anytime you want
to talk, and I'll be glad to if any way I can from man.
I appreciate you. Let's keep in touch. Thank you again. Listen
everybody, thanks for listening. I really appreciate you listening this far. Eddie
has been a great guest, just very interesting, great storyteller from my region
of the Southern United States, and we kind of talkt the same language,
so it's really easy for me. So that's going to wind it up for
this video. I appreciate you'all listening. Thanks,