1 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:27,239 In a different world. It used to be holy you, holy me, 2 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:36,799 But it's not the past that haunts me. So it's that I let you 3 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:58,719 go. When we were kids. You live next door, your hair was 4 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:10,079 yellow gold. I had stand outside your kitchen door. I struggled to be 5 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:23,439 bold, would share my coke and meal. Any candies are clutched in sticky 6 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:34,480 fingers, suple simple treasures came in handy, and we will go so young 7 00:01:34,319 --> 00:02:01,920 and so night with you. I share my words. Don't be innocence. 8 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:19,400 We shared together, growing to devotion, our innocence we lost together, untangled 9 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:31,800 our invultion. We grew apart. My graduation, no, not so on 10 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:47,599 expecting our love or just in fatuation has kept us close. Evenven we struggle 11 00:02:49,639 --> 00:03:07,960 to break free. And all the years I spent a longing were your ears 12 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:21,560 to say all you will not belonging. I just wanted one more chance to 13 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:37,759 dance to you in a different pearl. It used to be holy, holy 14 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:46,479 me, But it's not the beast that haunts me. So it's that island 15 00:03:46,639 --> 00:04:11,039 you want both. Time has seen us both in door misfortune and his favor. 16 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:28,439 A family life is so much more, but nothing left to save your 17 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:40,959 photographs a difference scene, then what's your eye? Confess the simple truth you 18 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:51,279 can't reveal has brought us here once again. Well, I struggle to be 19 00:04:51,360 --> 00:05:09,399 born the pay stream. It's not withstand day. It feels so right to 20 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:29,800 me behind to ask me all why. I just want chance to day in 21 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:42,279 a different world. It used to be holy, holy me, but it's 22 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:48,360 not the best. It haunts me, so it's better I let you go. 23 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:27,720 You are listening to tum and eight ninety five point three Duck Command Guy, 24 00:06:27,959 --> 00:07:05,040 don't get so greenly Doe Magzille Guby. Hello, everybody, Welcome, 25 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:09,759 Here we go. It is that time again. Matt Connerton unleashed and we 26 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,879 are live from the studios of wmn H ninety five point three FM and Glorious 27 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:18,879 Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six. If you're in 28 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,839 Manchester and hello to olive our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. 29 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:27,040 You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your 30 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:30,240 live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etcetera, 31 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,879 etcetera. Today is Tuesday, October third, twenty twenty three, So 32 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,639 nice to have you all with me. By the way, that opening track 33 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,839 is called Reunion, and that is from lou An Tanucci, who is going 34 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:47,759 to be our musical guest today in the second hour Numerowdos, and I'm really 35 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:51,759 looking forward to meeting him. Great guitar player as you heard in that track, 36 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,439 and just an amazing voice as well. So he's gonna come in. 37 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,439 We've got some some additional studio tracks to share, but he's also to play 38 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,319 live for us, so I'm really looking forward to meeting him and hearing him 39 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,519 live. That's going to be really cool. So that will be coming up 40 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,519 in the second hour today. In the first hour, I think we have 41 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,879 I think we have some pretty enormous political news to discuss, which is ongoing. 42 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,920 But yeah, so it's it's a big it's a big day. But 43 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,480 the studio line is open six zo three two five zero six zero seven six 44 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,360 zero three two five zero six zero seven. You can also text me at 45 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,159 six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media 46 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,879 at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com and 47 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,600 of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat and we will 48 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,120 say Hello, everybody in there in a moment. But the best thing to 49 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,799 do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is give us a 50 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,360 call at a six zo three two five zero six zero seven. Ronifervero joins 51 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,080 us in the Facebook live chat and says, Callie here of course, running 52 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,440 from the great state of California. Jay Fett is in the chat room from 53 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:03,440 the Great Vermont says good afternoon and everyone. Jenny is in the chat room 54 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,960 and says shalom peeps. Carol Zawarwitz says, hello, hope everyone is enjoying 55 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,200 this beautiful day. Yeah, the weather here is is quite quite nice. 56 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:16,200 I see my old friend Brett Goodson is in there, Hello Brett. Yeah. 57 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,240 So, if you've been paying attention at all to the political news there 58 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,440 is there does seem to be a lot happening at the moment. What do 59 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,200 you guys want to talk about? Yeah, there's Kevin McCarthy. His day 60 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,320 of reckoning seems to have arrived. If you don't know, if you haven't 61 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,840 seen or heard the news today, actually right now happening at this moment in 62 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:41,799 real time, the ouster of Kevin McCarthy. So there's a lot to unpack 63 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:48,960 with that. But Matt Gates has gone forward with his uh, and I 64 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,120 guess he's got five other It was four other and now he's got five other 65 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:58,039 House Republicans who are also interested in helping him oust McCarthy as a speaker, 66 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:03,480 something that surprised me a little bit today. I thought House Democrats might come 67 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:09,080 to his rescue, but apparently not. Now I have been sent this is 68 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,919 very interesting. I got this right before the show. I have been sent 69 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,360 some audio. Now, Uh, this is an exclusive, my friends. 70 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,960 You won't hear this anywhere else. From what I'm told, I have a 71 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:26,960 source at the at the House in Washington, DC who who recorded something, 72 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,960 who overheard something and was able to record it and send me this audio. 73 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,720 So apparently, despite what's being reported in the media, there was a secret 74 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:43,919 meeting between House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and Democrat Leader in the House Hakim Jeffreys about 75 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:46,600 some sort of a deal that could be made despite what's being reported. Now, 76 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,919 I didn't get a chance to pre listen to this, so I have 77 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,879 no idea what happens in this audio. And so we'll see. So we'll 78 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:56,200 be hearing this together. But again, a source I can't. I can't 79 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,919 say who it is. I have to respect their obviously, but they are 80 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,440 I'll just say this. They are at the House of Representatives in Washington, 81 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:09,759 DC right at this moment. And this is the conversation that that was sent 82 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:18,080 to me, apparently something recorded secretly Kevin McCarthy and Hakim Jefferies. Let's let's 83 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,679 see what we have on the tape here. What if he's just floating is 84 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,440 to keep the peace? What if there was a power sharing situation? Power 85 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,960 sharing, you won't win charge equally, but no major decisions can be made 86 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,639 without a majority of two. With that I this way, you're not such 87 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,320 a big target for the fates. Three of the other families have this kind 88 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:46,480 of arrangement. What's this stuff? Fu when now I forget it. Wow, 89 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,559 it didn't sound like it didn't sound like either of them. That's that's 90 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:58,720 interesting. Wait a minute, Okay, I just got a text message from 91 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,000 my source who sent me that. It says, ha ha, Matt got 92 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,679 you again. You're so gullible. I can't believe you fell for that. 93 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:13,720 You'll never beat Howie car in the ratings. You're so dumb. That was 94 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:20,000 from the Sopranos now that's great. That's just great. That's the second time 95 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:26,159 she's done that to me. Damn you, Lauren Bobert. I wasn't supposed 96 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:30,919 to say who it was. Uh, one of these days I'll learn Shannon 97 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,559 is on the line. Hi, Shannon, Hello, Hey, did you 98 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:41,279 say that's from the Sopranos? Apparently? I did think that sounded a little 99 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,000 odd. It didn't quite sound like Hakeem Jeffries and Kevin McCarthy. But I 100 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:46,279 didn't, you know, I didn't get a chance to pre listen to it. 101 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,399 Yeah, and I didn't catch it all I wanted to before you started 102 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:58,960 on and everything, uh mentioned. I thought of Eric Culture this morning. 103 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:05,279 I'm reading the book and the guy is in uh Or. I think he's 104 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,360 in Bangkok. I'm not honest to god sure, but anyway, the point 105 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:20,759 is the character says that he knows why George Romero filmed Darner the Dead in 106 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:24,759 a mall, and I man that he said George m I said, oh 107 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:33,279 what, sorry, it was just a reference. So I don't know. 108 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,840 I just I never would have known who it was if it wasn't for Eric 109 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:43,080 Pulture. Who what was? What? Huh? Who? What was? 110 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,840 I don't understand, Shannon. I was reading a book, okay, listening 111 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:58,759 to a book, okay. And the guy was in a mall in somewhere, 112 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,279 and there's like three floors to the place and he said he's walking down 113 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:09,320 the morning. He says to himself. Now I understand or now I know 114 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:16,000 why George ro Merroll filmed Dawn of the Dead at them all? Is that 115 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,720 right or wrong? I don't know, Shannon. I wasn't there. I'm 116 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:28,879 gonna take your word for it, though. Okay, then I'm asking did 117 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,080 The question is did George Romeroll film Dawn of the Dead in a ma all? 118 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,200 I have no idea, Shannon, I couldn't tell you. All right, 119 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,360 bye, alright, bye bye, Okay, cool story, bro, 120 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:46,200 I think is what the young people say? Uh? Okay? Well, 121 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:50,039 six O three two five ozho six zero seven is the studio line. Six 122 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,320 zero three two five zero six zero seven. If you would like to join 123 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,320 us on the program, we will. Let's see I see Polly See just 124 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,480 popped into the Facebook live chat police see of course of retro Spectrum Radio with 125 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:05,240 Policy, which you can hear Friday nights from eight to eleven pm here at 126 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,120 WMH ninety five point three FM. 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Also, Abort 134 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:41,600 seven joins us in the Facebook live chat and says Shannon to be Shannon, 135 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,159 Hello, hashtag gen coffee from US, we said to you from US, 136 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,080 abort seven, Good afternoon. Hashtag Matt from US. Hi, hashtag gen 137 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:54,879 coffee from US. Yes. And by the way, I'm pretty sure that 138 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:58,120 Abort seven, I'm just going to go out on a limb here is very 139 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:02,519 likely from Greensboro, North Carolina, and they probably sing and dance and we'll 140 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:07,200 be doing karaoke at what's the name of the place. What's the name of 141 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,919 the place? Uh oh, aboard seven says in the chat room. We 142 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,679 are from Greensboro, North Carolina. Yes, yes, it's amazing, A 143 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:19,159 lot of great uh all the great boy bands are from Greensboro anyway. Yes, 144 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,399 six OZ three two five oh six O seven is the studio line six 145 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,960 ZO three two five O six zoh seven. Oh thank you aboard seven Center 146 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:33,840 City Park, downtown Greensboro karaoke. Yes. Yes, So right now as 147 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:38,879 we speak, they are voting, and I don't know if that will be 148 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:44,120 uh if if they will, I'm sorry I shouldn't say they're voting. They're 149 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,759 speaking. They're getting up and they're giving their speeches, and they are pontificating. 150 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:52,279 And of course they are, you know, are elected law givers and 151 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:57,840 overlords. They are quite loquacious and voluble. They've they know that if nothing 152 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:03,080 else, the c SPAN cameras are running, and so they got to get 153 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:07,279 some some good clips for their next campaign commercials when it's election time. No, 154 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,759 but actually, you know, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, I'm sure 155 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:17,279 they're all carrying it live because this is a pretty big deal. This is 156 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:22,440 the first time in I believe over a century that there has been even an 157 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,839 attempt to remove a House speaker, to vacate would be the correct term, 158 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,359 or I suppose to remove it is a removal what is it a removal motion 159 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:41,079 that Congressman Matt Gates has decided to initiate to try to remove Kevin McCarthy. 160 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:51,880 I will say this now, I understand because there's a way out of this, 161 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,559 right and the obvious way out, and I'm curious to get some get 162 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:00,720 some feedback from the audience on this, if you agree, disagree, there's 163 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:04,319 a way out of this, and that would be that the Democrats are in 164 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:11,039 a position to rescue Kevin McCarthy. They could vote with the Republicans with the 165 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:15,160 Bass majority. Apparently there are six Republicans. Last I knew there were five, 166 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,519 and then five became six, and that number could grow of Republicans in 167 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:26,119 the House, including Matt Gates who do in fact wish to oust Speaker McCarthy. 168 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,440 You know the Freedom Caucus. If you add them all up, it's 169 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,440 it's like twenty people, twenty House members Republicans in the House Freedom Caucus. 170 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,079 He used to be with the Tea partiers back when John Bayner was House Speaker. 171 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,640 He had to deal with the Tea Partiers, and then that was part 172 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,319 of why he decided to finally move on because he didn't like having that sort 173 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,720 of damocles over his head all the time. And he said, you know 174 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:56,200 what, I think I'm gonna move on. But Kevin McCarthy seems to really 175 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,680 like being speaker. Not that John Bayner didn't back during the Obama administration, 176 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:06,119 but I think he I think at a certain point he just but but he 177 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:14,319 was older too than McCarthy is, at least I think so. So I 178 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,480 just I see, let me put it this way, I understand why the 179 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:22,599 Democrats don't want to help. And they met today, they had a meeting 180 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:30,599 their caucus and the determination was that they will not be rescuing Kevin McCarthy. 181 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:36,160 But mathematically it is possible they would be voting. If they were to decide 182 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,359 to rescue McCarthy, they would be voting with the Republicans because again, he 183 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,359 has overwhelming report support from I forget how many House Republicans are total, but 184 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,839 the six of them who want to vote to remove him, but the rest 185 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,759 of them want to keep him. But again that number six could grow because 186 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:59,480 there are other House Freedom Caucus members who might want to help to remove him. 187 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,559 But math mtically it would be possible for the Democrats to want to keep 188 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,000 him, or I shouldn't say to want to keep him, but to want 189 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,839 to rescue him. I should say, ideally they would like Kim Jeffries to 190 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,240 become House Speaker. And that's how they voted consistently. Of course, back 191 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,960 in January, remember it was fifteen rounds, fifteen rounds of voting before House. 192 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:26,039 Well, then Kevin McCarthy, Congressman McCarthy before he was able to become 193 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:29,160 House Speaker, fifteen rounds, and you know, young in there. I 194 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,119 give him credit for that. I have a lot of criticisms of Kevin McCarthy, 195 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,160 certainly, but you know, I have a little bit of grudging respect 196 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,839 for him in the sense that he you know, he hung He hung in 197 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,359 there. I mean, he could have had any points stepped aside and said, 198 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,519 you know what, maybe maybe you'd be happier with Congressman's Steve Scalise of 199 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:51,359 Louisiana, for example, who may end up being a House Speaker in the 200 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,799 future, in the nearer future. But but he hung in there. He 201 00:20:55,839 --> 00:20:59,200 came through on the dead ceiling. I didn't think he would. He came 202 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:03,039 through on the keeping the government open. We almost went into shutdown. I 203 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:08,880 didn't think he would. But he's also broken some promises along the way. 204 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,200 So I understand why the Democrats don't trust him, and why it is difficult 205 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,400 for them to say we're going to rescue him when apparently, in fact, 206 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:22,319 at the meeting that they had today, apparently at the opening of the meeting, 207 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:27,759 someone had put together a video compilation of McCarthy over the weekend, just 208 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,480 you know, trashing Democrats, blaming Democrats for this and for that, blaming 209 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:37,480 the Democrats for almost having a government shutdown, and so forth. So he 210 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:45,880 has not endeared himself, so I understand the impulse to want to watch him 211 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:52,640 just suffer and get the boot. I will tell you this though, while 212 00:21:52,680 --> 00:22:03,400 I understand, I absolutely understand I would for if I had my way, 213 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,200 I think I would prefer that they do rescue him, not for free, 214 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:14,599 but they meet with him and get some sort of a concession from him that 215 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:22,200 they are confident he will come through on Now, maybe that is impossible for 216 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:26,160 a couple of reasons. One is they don't trust him. He already reneged 217 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:32,960 on some of what he agreed to with Biden back when we were trying not 218 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:36,559 to default. When we were about to go over the fiscal cliff. Some 219 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:41,240 thing's in that budget deal. McCarthy has not been able to keep his word. 220 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:45,160 And I say it that way because you know, it's not as simple 221 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,519 as he enters into an agreement with Biden and then you know he has to 222 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,559 be able to deliver on everything later. And of course, again you've got 223 00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:55,079 Matt Gates and others who do everything they can to make sure that he doesn't 224 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:59,599 deliver on what he promised. So but I'm not saying that to let McCarthy 225 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:02,119 off the hook. I'm just saying that is the reality of the situation. 226 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:11,039 So I understand they don't feel like they can trust him, and he behaves 227 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,480 as though. And this part has surprised me a little bit. I am 228 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:19,920 surprised by this somewhat. He seems to act like, I don't want their 229 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,079 help anyway. Why would I want Why would I want their help? I 230 00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:29,799 don't want their help. That part has surprised me a little bit because my 231 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,759 impression, my perception of McCarthy has been all along that the speakership is the 232 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,680 single most important thing to him. You know, he was willing to give 233 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:44,519 away everything almost down to the clothes he was wearing on the night that they 234 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:48,519 went through that fifteen rounds of voting before he was able to finally be elected 235 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:52,880 speaker. You know, I mean, how much how much more could he 236 00:23:52,880 --> 00:24:00,559 have possibly given away during those negotiations with Matt Gates and others, Ship Roy 237 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,480 and Lauren Bobert. I'm still mad at her. How much more could he 238 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:15,119 have given away? So I guess the part that surprises me is this. 239 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:22,880 I would have thought, knowing that the Democrats are in a position to save 240 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,480 him, I would have thought that he would have tried to maybe make some 241 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:34,079 sort of a deal with them that would also be acceptable to the vast majority 242 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,960 of the Republicans in the House who like him, or at least can tolerate 243 00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:42,079 him and want to keep him there. Because again, it's only six last 244 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,200 I knew, it's only six Republicans who want to remove him. So I 245 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,359 would have thought he would have made some effort to make a deal with the 246 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,079 Democrats to save him. But then again, he might have thought about it. 247 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:02,200 He might have considered that and already he concluded that it's not going to 248 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,519 be possible, because either he thinks the Democrats are going to want too much 249 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,000 like a power sharing agreement. Although that's pie in the sky stuff that was 250 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:15,079 never going to happen. But he might think that the Democrats want too much 251 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,880 in terms of concessions because they're not going to do it for free. And 252 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:26,799 he might think that the Republicans, the vast majority of whom still support him, 253 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,200 he needs them. He needs to keep them on his side, that 254 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,519 majority, to maintain his speakership. He might feel like if he makes any 255 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,079 kind of concessions to the Democrats that the Republicans who are with him, some 256 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480 of them will no longer be with him, and then it will have all 257 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:48,480 been for nothing. His own party may turn against him in a big way, 258 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,880 not just you know, six people. So maybe it just isn't possible. 259 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,000 But if it were possible, again, I understand why the Democrats don't 260 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,920 trust him and wouldn't want to rescue him. I get it. But I 261 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,400 have to tell you this, as fascinating as all of this is, and 262 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:14,119 for someone who loves politics like me, this is fascinating to watch. This 263 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,960 is a big deal, This is a historic moment as we're watching this happen. 264 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:26,079 But the thing about politics is very often the more fascinating. It is, 265 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:33,720 it's for worse and worse reasons. Things that are fascinating are very often 266 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,519 in politics, are very often things that are horrible for the country. What 267 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,440 I'm saying is, as much as this will be interesting to see how this 268 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:47,039 all unfolds, it's also really bad, guys. It's really really bad because 269 00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:51,039 what's going to happen now is if they successfully remove him, this is going 270 00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:56,400 to be chaos. There will be no speaker at that point. Now they're 271 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,880 going to have to start the process all over again that they already went through. 272 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Oh, there's an update here on Politico. The House is officially moving 273 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:15,960 toward a final vote. Ext Really, let me refresh that we might be 274 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,400 close to this happening. I didn't know if I didn't know if the actual 275 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,079 vote would take place before we got off the air, or you know, 276 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,759 before before our guests arrives in the second hour. But I'm trying to refresh 277 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,200 this as a live feed from Oh are they voting? Let me see her 278 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,519 Molton? I remember her. I don't know who this is that I'm looking 279 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:42,279 at, but I remember her from January counting votes. This is it. 280 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:49,000 They're voting. Yea, they're up to the MS Murphy. So they're about 281 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:55,079 halfway through, so they're voting right now. So the thing is, guys, 282 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,079 Again, as fascinating as this all is, it's really bad for This 283 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,640 is so bad for the country. We're gonna have a House of Representatives that 284 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,079 is paralyzed. They're gonna have to start this process all over again of electing 285 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,759 a speaker. One of the things about this that will be interesting is seeing 286 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:17,359 if Kevin McCarthy puts himself, which he will be able to do, put 287 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,319 himself back in as a candidate, and he'll have to run for the speakership 288 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,200 all over again. It may end up being Steve Scalise in the end. 289 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:30,839 He's much more My impression is Steve Scalise is much more well liked and generally 290 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,039 respected than McCarthy is, So maybe it will be him. Yeah, but 291 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:40,400 I don't know how this ends. And again, as as interesting as it 292 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,960 will be to watch unfold, I'm not looking forward to going through this. 293 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,599 What if, you know, they just passed a continuing resolution on the budget 294 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,440 for forty five days. What if we get to the end of forty five 295 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:53,599 days, that forty five days and there's still this chaos you have to understand 296 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,119 nothing that Okay, they're in the ohs. I just heard Ocasio Cortesse oguls. 297 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,599 That's kind of a fun name. Let me turn that down a little 298 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,640 more. It's just the names are distracting me. But I do want to 299 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,640 keep an eye on this because I think within just just the next couple of 300 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,799 minutes, we're going to get a vote on this. This is the House 301 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,519 is going to be paralyzed. Is a lot that can't get done if the 302 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:25,759 House is paralyzed. Anything having to do with money, anything having to do 303 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:30,119 with the budget appropriations, that all has to go through the House. How 304 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200 does our government function? We just averted a government shutdown? How does our 305 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,000 government function though with a paralyzed House of Representatives. That's what's really on the 306 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:41,359 line here. So again, if there's an opportunity, if there is an 307 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,279 opportunity to save McCarthy, I would say to the Democrats, I think you 308 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:51,559 should do it for pragmatic reasons. You know, politically, it's great for 309 00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:56,359 the Democrats to watch these Republicans who continue to look as though they can't govern, 310 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:03,759 they're in disarray. I shouldn't even say that they I mean, I 311 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,400 shouldn't even say it looks like that. That is what's happening, right, 312 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,039 I mean, this is disarray. So it's very good for the Democrats. 313 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,880 So I understand the impulse on their part to want to just sit back and 314 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:18,880 watch the Republicans self immolate right there on the floor of the House of Representatives. 315 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:25,799 I understand that. But sometimes you gotta put pragmatism over politics, and 316 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,720 it doesn't help us. It might help the Democratic Party. It will help 317 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,119 the Democratic Party. I mean, look, this is the Republicans look so 318 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,759 dysfunctional here. They're going to lose the House. They're going to end up 319 00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:38,640 losing the House in the next election. I really believe that. So I 320 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:47,480 understand why Hakim Jefferies would say, guys, let's let them just dissolve into 321 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,759 chaos and we'll just sit back and watch. It's not our problem. I 322 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:55,319 understand all of that, but it's bad for the country. And I think 323 00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:59,079 the Democrats should put pragmatism over politics in this case, and I think they 324 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,400 should save them. I think they should. I mean, they got to 325 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,119 get something out of him for it, right, and by the way, 326 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,960 that may yet come. That may yet come, because what might happen with 327 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,640 this vote, and let's see where we're at here. Okay, they're in 328 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:22,480 the RS, so they're close. If he is ousted with this vote, 329 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,640 when he I assume he'll put himself in as a candidate when they have to 330 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,480 start electing a new speaker, and then if he wins and become speaker again, 331 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,839 this will have all been for nothing. Maybe they can figure out a 332 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,640 way to expel Matt Gates so this doesn't happen again, because he seems to 333 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,839 be the center of all of this, right, But maybe at that point 334 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,720 when McCarthy is trying to get back in, maybe at that point there can 335 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:53,880 be some negotiating with the Democrats. But maybe he just doesn't want to look 336 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,519 like he's negotiating with the Democrats. Maybe it's too politically caustic for him to 337 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,960 do that. Boy, let's see, Oh are we in the t's We 338 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200 gotta be close. Oh no, we're still in the RS. I'm sorry, 339 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,960 I don't know what I thought I was hearing. Ruper Spurger. That's 340 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,079 a fun name. I like fun names. Chris Parrior, also known as 341 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,799 Crispy, says in the chat room hashtag McCarthy, McConnell, Jordan Bobert, 342 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,920 MTG grahams Stone, Meadows, Trump's Trump bar Flynn Baron, and all Banana 343 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,599 Republic House under McCarthy. M hmm. Yeah, that is in fact a 344 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:42,200 list of names. Y see where we are here, Santos, Santos, 345 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:55,319 We're in the asses. We're getting close. Yay. Scalise nay. By 346 00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:59,039 the way, I'm sure Schools school is of course just voted. No. 347 00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,079 I'm sure he'd love to be speaker, but he's not going to stick a 348 00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:07,599 shiv in the back of his uh his friend Kevin McCarthy, at least not 349 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:12,319 not quite so publicly. All Right, we got to be close to the 350 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:20,480 end here. I'm anxious to see what happens here. Yea, yeay Schryer, 351 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:32,160 yea Swiker nay, Austin Scott. We might not be as close to 352 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,680 the end as I thought, because now that I'm thinking about it, Uh, 353 00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:49,319 there's probably a lot of tea names yea, yea, so oh Crispy 354 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,599 and the chat room says, oops, I forgot to finish. They are 355 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:59,759 traders to their oaths aboard seven in the chat room says, we can stand 356 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:05,799 the situation. Democrats, we said from us to you hashtag Matt, we 357 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,719 say President Biden stays hashtag Matt Connerton because he is a good okay president, 358 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:17,440 we are going to be covering some barrio boys songs. Oh well, very 359 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:23,159 nice. They're still in the says I'm actually getting anxiety over this. Maybe 360 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:34,760 some of you are too. Let's see. Yeah, it says here. 361 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,760 I had mentioned this earlier media. It has a story up and again this 362 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:45,199 is I wonder if McCarthy regrets this at all. Video of McCarthy belittling Democrats 363 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,840 was played for House DEM's before vote on Speaker's fate. That's when they when 364 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,639 they went and had their meeting. Let's see what this. Let's let's look 365 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:59,760 at this. Uh well, we'll put up We'll mute the other video for 366 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,119 a moment of the vote, because I think that's going to be a few 367 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:08,800 more minutes. And this is audio of the video that apparently was played at 368 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,360 the beginning of the meeting with House Democrats today. I wasn't sure I was 369 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,119 going to pass. You want to know why, because the Democrats tried to 370 00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:22,639 do everything they can not to let it pass. They were the ones who 371 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:29,639 voted number than Republicans to keep the continuing resolution alive. Did you watch the 372 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,239 floor. Yes, oh, yes, okay. Then the Republicans voted against 373 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,920 it. Okay, So let's let's walk through what actually happened. First of 374 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,719 all, the Democrats stood up and did dilatory actions. Asked to endure, 375 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,440 so was that supporting to adjourn? Then they used the magic minute. They 376 00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,280 went as far as pulling the fire alarm not to try to get the bill 377 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,599 to come up. So here's the thing, all right, and then Jake 378 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:57,199 Tapper weighs in. But that's apparently that was played at the beginning of the 379 00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:02,800 meeting. All right, let's see where we are on the vote. Oh, 380 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,559 and that's buffering. Probably a lot of people are watching this at once. 381 00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,519 This is the feed from coming through politico dot com. Let me unmute 382 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:14,559 that. We'll see where we are here. Swallowell Oh, we're still in 383 00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:27,000 the asses. We're at the end of the assas sikes, we're in the 384 00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:30,960 ts. Yeah. By the way, hello to Nolan Coda, who I 385 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:35,480 see in the Facebook live chat. Nolan was here yesterday with his great band 386 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,599 Pointless Culture. If you miss yesterday's show, check it out. Those guys 387 00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,559 came in in the second hour, all four members of Pointless Culture. We're 388 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,840 here It was actually Nolan's second time on the show. He was here a 389 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,840 few weeks ago. He's got a solo project that I love. It's called 390 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,480 Eonsen Coded and he Nolan does everything himself. It's really really good. But 391 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,800 he also plays in the band Pointless Culture, and they were here yesterday. 392 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,679 Melanie Liberty joins us in the Facebook lap chet and says, hey, guys, 393 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,639 hello Melanie. All right, let's see where we are in the vote 394 00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:10,760 here to leab yea yea, all right, we're in the teas, but 395 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:19,280 we're we're in the early tease. I hope they so. I don't know 396 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:25,400 if this vote exactly does it or if this is a vote on whether to 397 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:30,679 vote to expel. I'm actually not sure where we are in this entire process, 398 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:35,679 but I mean, it will be fascinating to see what happens next, 399 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:49,840 But I'm not There's a separate story here. Senate Republicans are upset with McCarthy 400 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:57,199 after McCarthy jams them on Ukraine aid. It says, yeah, that's that's 401 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,800 frustrating too. You know. In that continuing result, Lucian there was nothing 402 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:07,280 about aid for Ukraine, and uh no, I don't know how that's all 403 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,519 going to play out too. But I think we might actually be at the 404 00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:15,320 beginnings of walking away from Ukraine, which is just I think at this point 405 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,800 it's just crazy to me. I think we should we need to keep up 406 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,239 the we need to keep up what we're doing. Vasquez's Oh, Vasquez, 407 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:32,079 are we in the V's Oh it's buffering. A lot of people are watching. 408 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:45,519 Yes, Wagner, Oh, we're almost there. Nay Woolburg, Nay 409 00:38:46,800 --> 00:39:01,920 Waltz, Nay Whilsom and Schultz, Yay Waters, Yeah, Watson Coleman, 410 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:19,280 Yeah, Yeay. Webber of Texas, Nay Webster of Florida, Nay Windstrup, 411 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:36,159 Nay Westerman, y Nay Webston. Yea wild there's a there's more w 412 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,280 names than I thought. Williams of Georgia, Yes, yea, Williams of 413 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:52,480 New York, Nay Williams of Texas. There's a lot of Williams. Wilson 414 00:39:52,639 --> 00:40:07,519 of Florida, yea, yea Wilson of South Carolina. Nay Whitman, Nay 415 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:17,760 whoa Mac Nope, Nay yackam, yackam. That's a fun that's a fun 416 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:29,639 name. Zinkie, Oh, Zinkie's fun too. Nay McCarthy. Nay, 417 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,599 all right, so everyone is voted. What is that? What your guys? 418 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:46,000 So what happens now? There's gotta gotta do some math. Ammock Carter 419 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:59,920 of Texas, I have, I have, all right, so I assume. 420 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,039 Now let's see what. Oh, I didn't mean to close that browser. 421 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:14,320 I just want to see. I'm sure if somebody's already figured out if 422 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,639 that's enough to oust him. If you are just joining us, we were 423 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:28,840 just listening to the vote on ousting Kevin McCarthy. Let's see what the Hill 424 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:42,119 dot com is saying about this. They've probably got to add. I assume 425 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:44,679 there's a few people who didn't vote yet. Let's see what what are they 426 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:52,239 saying here? Yeah, they're still adding things up, so we probably won't 427 00:41:52,280 --> 00:42:02,440 know for a few minutes. But let's see. Yeah, nobody's reporting yet 428 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,760 on what the vote, what the final vote was, so they probably won't 429 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:14,320 until there is an announcement on whether that passes. If you'd like to chime 430 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,840 in six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zero three two five 431 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,840 zero six zero seven, we do have a great musical guest coming up in 432 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,239 the second hour. We'll be joined live in studio, and I'm really looking 433 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,639 forward to this. We're gonna be joined live by Lou Antonucci. If I'm 434 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,840 pronouncing that correctly, I hope that I am. So he's gonna be coming 435 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,800 up. Really looking forward to that. But if you'd like to get in 436 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,039 with a call on this matter, don't wait too long. Six ozho three 437 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,800 two five zero six zero seven six zho three two five zero six o seven. 438 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,000 Now they've got a live feed on the Hill, the Hill dot com. 439 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,599 Let's see what they're doing, cammick. Oh, they're behind Okay, 440 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:06,400 they're feed on their live feed. They're still voting. But yeah, we 441 00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:08,480 might not know. We might not know before the top of the hour whether 442 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:13,440 this passed or not. So we'll see. Melanie in the chat room says 443 00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,880 the most unenthusiastic Yea's ever. Well, you know, it wouldn't be very 444 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:22,159 statesman like to, uh, you know, be too enthusiastic when when voting. 445 00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:28,440 Interestingly, where are they voting again? Oh? Are they taking the 446 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,239 votes of the people who weren't in the room. Some people had to go 447 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:38,960 to uh go to the bathroom. Oh, I think they're getting some of 448 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:45,280 the votes of the people who weren't in the room the first time. Peltola. 449 00:43:47,159 --> 00:44:00,239 Yeah, she's going back through them, Peltola. Let's see here. 450 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:07,719 Yeah, I mean I assume as long as as long as that six voted 451 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,199 to oust him, and all the Democrats voted to oust him, that's probably 452 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,159 enough. By the way, this a little bit of a side story, 453 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,920 but it's related. Nude Gingrich has been pretty outspoken lately, and it's oh, 454 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,079 wait a minute, are there other members in this body who have not 455 00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:34,039 been recorded or who wish to change their vote? You can do that, 456 00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:42,320 you can change your vote. I didn't know that. Hmm. No, 457 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,440 for real, I thought, once you said yea or nay, that's it, 458 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:49,400 you're locked in. Like on the Morning show when they you know, 459 00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:52,639 when you say locked in, that's it, you're locked in. That's what 460 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,599 I thought. All right, I want to get an answer to this before 461 00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:07,199 for the top of the hour. Here. All right, they're talking who 462 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,559 is this guy anyway? See the parliamentarian. I don't even recognize the guy. 463 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:19,280 All right, Well, while we wait for that, so Nude Gingrich, 464 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,639 this is from Media eight. Nude Kingridge calls on House Republicans to expel 465 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:29,239 actively destructive Matt Gates from GOP conference. So Nude Gingrich managed to get me 466 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,800 to agree with him on something, It says. Nude Gingrich, a long 467 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:37,480 time Republican Party elder and former Speaker of the House, is calling on the 468 00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:42,280 House GOP to expel Matt Gates from their conference over his efforts to team up 469 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,400 with House Democrats to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy. In a column for The Washington 470 00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:52,000 Post, to Gingrich minced no words, leading with the assertion that Gates quote 471 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:58,639 is an anti Republican who has become actively destructive to the conservative movement. Some 472 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,519 behavior crosses the line, and when it does, there has to be consequences 473 00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:07,320 unquote. Oh. He also said there's more. He also said in the 474 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,199 piece, if Gates were simply allowed mouth to Junior this vote hang on, 475 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,280 Here we go. The yay's are two sixteen, the nays are two ten. 476 00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:23,280 The resolution is adopted without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on 477 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:29,519 the table. The office of Speaker of the House of the United States House 478 00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:35,559 of Representatives is hereby declared vacant. Uh. Okay, so it's done. 479 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,840 Oh boy, Now, now what chaos do we plunge into? So I 480 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:50,760 guess that's it. Right, McCarthy's done for the moment, because I wonder, 481 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,760 I mean, are they going to start the process of trying to elect 482 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,119 a news speaker immediately? Are they going to do that today? Now? 483 00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:00,519 Chris Portier in the chat room, Chrispy's as, does George Santos get a 484 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:12,159 vote? Yes, yes he does. Well, here's what We'll take another 485 00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:14,199 look at that in a moment. We'll see if we can get an update 486 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000 on what happens next. But this is from the piece that Gingrich wrote, 487 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,840 Gates has gone beyond regular drama. He is destroying the House Goop's ability to 488 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:30,159 govern and draw a sharp contrast with the policy disasters of the Biden administration. 489 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:36,840 It says. Gingrich even went on to approvingly site Representative Nancy Pelosi, who 490 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:44,480 recently noted that Gates has no sway in Congress. Gingrich wrote this, Gates 491 00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:49,719 has been ego centrically, going from TV show to TV show and attacking his 492 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,360 own party by repeatedly threatening to bring emotion House McCarthy as speaker, which he 493 00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:00,840 did on late Monday. Furthermore, Gates is violating the House Republican Conference rule 494 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,639 that states the motion to vacate should only be available with the agreement of the 495 00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:10,760 Republican Conference so as not to allow Democrats to choose the speaker. The agreement 496 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:19,360 made when McCarthy became speaker doesn't supersede the conference rules. Gates still needs a 497 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,760 majority of the conference. Now that's interesting. That's an interesting take. So 498 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,079 in other words, it sounds like what Gingrich is arguing here here is you 499 00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:31,880 know, there's there's rules. The Republican Conference has their rules, and just 500 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,480 because you make a side agreement doesn't mean those rules are invalidated. So that 501 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:39,719 seems to be the argument that Gingrich is making here. It says Gates, 502 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,880 this is what Gingrich wrote, Gates knows he can't possibly get a majority of 503 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,360 thus GOOP conference to his side. He is simply violating the rules and the 504 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,239 pursuit of personal attention and fundraising, just like Pelosi said. Wow, So 505 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,159 in this case, not only am I agreeing with Newt Gingrich, which is 506 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,199 rare, but apparently he's agreeing with Pelosi. Gingrich went on to write, 507 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,519 I served twenty years in the House, including four as Speaker. On occasion, 508 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:13,159 I fought against the GOP establishment. I led the fight against President George 509 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,960 H. W. Bush's nineteen ninety tax increase. After he had broken his 510 00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:21,360 word about no new taxes, I felt bound to stay with my commitment to 511 00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:25,119 the American voters. Unlike Gates, though, when I rebelled, I represented 512 00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:29,679 the majority of view of the caucus at the time. Gates's motion to remove 513 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,079 McCarthy should be swiftly defeated, and then he should be expelled from the House 514 00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:38,960 Republican Conference. House Republicans have far more important things to do than entertain one 515 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:47,159 member's ego. Ouch, al right, weel again. I tend to agree 516 00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:58,159 with Gingrich on that Melanie says in the chat room so well that allegedly I 517 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,519 think he was I think he was clear of that. But something about underage 518 00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:06,519 girls. But causing chaos and a party is bad. Thanks King Rich. 519 00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:12,880 Let's see, I'm refreshing Politico one more time. Here, see if we 520 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:19,639 can get a final word on the events of today with this, with this 521 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:29,000 story, Let's see where we are here. Politico says, Yeah, it's 522 00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:37,199 official, McCarthy out as speaker in an unprecedented development. Let's see, it 523 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,679 says, for the first time in history, the House has deposed its speaker 524 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,920 again. The last time this was even attempted was more than a century ago. 525 00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:51,199 Democrats joined with Representative Matt Gates and his small group of conservative allies to 526 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,920 vote to strip McCarthy of his gavel. It's unclear who would succeed McCarthy long 527 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,559 term, though, as allies expect, he will try to run for speaker 528 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:07,840 again. Representative David Valado, Republican of California. McCarthy allies said quote, 529 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,840 We're perfectly happy to drag this out as long as it takes. We're all 530 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,199 going to be there for the speaker, as long as he wants us to 531 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,039 be. Un eight Republicans, Okay, so it had been six last I 532 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:22,559 knew who were planning to it ended up being eight Republicans voted against McCarthy. 533 00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,960 Eli Creative Arizona, Ken Buck of Colorado, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Matt 534 00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:30,719 Rosendale of Montana, Matt Gates of Florida, Bob Good of Virginia, Nancy 535 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,599 Mace of South Carolina, and Tim Burchett of Tennessee. Three House leaders have 536 00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:42,880 been floated as potential long term replacements. Majority Leader Steve Schulie, who again, 537 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,719 that's who I would put my money on. Whip Tom Emmer Republican of 538 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,199 Minnesota. Of course, well, of course these are all Republicans, and 539 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:57,119 Conference Chair Elise Stephanic all three of disavowed any interest in replacing McCarthy, a 540 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,840 reality that could change now that the Californian is afially out. McCarthy's long running 541 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,760 troubles with his right flank became a full fledged rebellion in recent days after he 542 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:14,159 called up a stop gap spending patch on Saturday that averted a shutdown without imposing 543 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,000 any of the spending cuts on conservative border policies that he'd vowed to push. 544 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,960 More Democrats than Republicans voted for that short term spending bill, essentially guaranteeing the 545 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,039 conservative push back against the speaker. The last time the House moved to try 546 00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:34,039 to evict a speaker was nineteen ten, and the move has never succeeded. 547 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,400 So there you go, and U. Yeah, so it's been well, 548 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,719 it's been well over a century since this was even attempted, but first time 549 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:49,360 in history this has been done. And prepare for the chaos that will now 550 00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:55,599 descend upon the House of Representatives as they will be paralyzed for lord knows how 551 00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:00,199 long as they try to. I don't know. I guess. I mean, 552 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,360 maybe it'll start today. Maybe they'll start the process today of electing a 553 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,920 new speaker. I don't know. I don't know exactly. We're in somewhat 554 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,960 uncharted territory. I mean, who's going to be in charge of organizing that. 555 00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,079 It won't be Speaker McCarthy. He's not the speaker anymore, So I 556 00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:20,400 don't know. Again, it's one of these instances where you know, for 557 00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:23,880 someone who loves politics, I'm fascinated by it all. But also I have 558 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,559 a feeling of incredible dread as I marvel at how awful this is for the 559 00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:36,079 country, all of this defunction dysfunction. It really is bad. I don't 560 00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,400 think defunctions the word. I apologize. But so there we are. There 561 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,400 we are, my friends. Well, listen, we are approaching the top 562 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,239 of the hour. We have a great musical guest coming up. In fact, 563 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,840 he's here, so we're gonna get him set up. But we're going 564 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,159 to so we'll take a quick break. I'm gonna play a song. This 565 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,039 is called Grandfather's Song. It's one of the tracks he sent us to play 566 00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,239 today, Lou Antonucci. And when he's on the air with us, he 567 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,840 can he can tell me if I'm saying his last name correctly, Hopefully I 568 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,400 am. But I'm really looking forward to this. Uh. He's got an 569 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,519 incredible voice and a really great sound and he probably doesn't know this, but 570 00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,280 we we did play one of his songs to open the show today two at 571 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,039 four o'clock and I'll just just fantastic. So I'm looking forward to this a 572 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,920 lot. But we're gonna play this track and then we're gonna show some love 573 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,559 to our amazing sponsors. And then when we come back in the second hour, 574 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,360 he is here. He's got his guitar, and I'm really looking forward 575 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:35,119 to this. So plenty more to come. Don't go anywhere, Come in, 576 00:54:35,360 --> 00:55:13,800 God, don't get so prettily done, Matzilleging. Welcome back everybody, 577 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,800 as we are into our number two numerodos of Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we 578 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,920 are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM and 579 00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:28,639 Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six. If you're 580 00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,079 in Manchester, and hello to all of our online friends across the nation and 581 00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:35,280 around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for 582 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,679 all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show 583 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,440 archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Tuesday, October third, two thousand 584 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,320 twenty three, and as promised, we have a great musical guest in studio 585 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,039 with us, Lou Antonucci, and I am saying that correctly, exactly, 586 00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:54,679 you got it right. Awesome. That's a that's a big relief. I 587 00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,559 try, I try to get names correctly, very very Italian, very slightly. 588 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,559 Yes. So welcome to the show. It's uh, it's great to 589 00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,280 meet you. Finally. I love your sound. Uh great, great voice 590 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,480 and the guitar work and everything. We were kind of talking off here a 591 00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:15,639 little bit that one of the songs that I played, close the Door, 592 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,400 you were talking about some lead guitar work on that from Jerry Puttnam. Is 593 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,639 that his name from Jerry Putnam up at Cedar House Sound, Yeah, And 594 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:29,000 that that name has been coming up on the show so much recently. In 595 00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,800 fact, the guys I had on yesterday from the band Pointless Culture that's where 596 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,840 they record, and I hear nothing. I don't I don't know Jerry personally, 597 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,239 but I hear nothing but great things. Yeah. I know, it's 598 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,519 it's a great studio. I'd suggested to anybody that's looking to do to do 599 00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,840 some recording. Absolutely, and he does all the mastering there too, right 600 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,519 Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's that's amazing. Yeah. And he'll even 601 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:52,760 you'll even even do a little guitar for you for you if you brought him 602 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,280 enough, and he's a great guitarist. So yeah, yeah, it seems 603 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,199 to me too, like I get the impression and that he kind of becomes 604 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:05,159 like a de facto producer, which which usually happens by accident, but it 605 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,159 sounds like, you know, he's someone who really knows what he's doing and 606 00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:08,719 it has a lot of good ideas. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. 607 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:15,360 And he produced the the CD that that that song that you played was on 608 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,239 as well. Yeah, let me hold this up for the cameras over here, 609 00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:21,199 So let me hold this up for everybody. So Lu brought brought me 610 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,559 copies of for Jenny and I. It's called an almost Perfect Flight and uh, 611 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,400 no way to really zoom in, but I'll hold it up there if 612 00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,920 some people at home can see, or people listening or people watching on their 613 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,519 computers, I should say, or on Channel six. But yeah, that's 614 00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:39,280 a cool cover. I like that. Yeah, if if nothing else, 615 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:45,559 they make great coasters. But you know that's the h I still give those 616 00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:50,159 out of you know it at performances. And yeah, you know, it's 617 00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:54,880 interesting because the one thing that I miss about the days of of vinyl albums, 618 00:57:54,920 --> 00:58:00,280 even though vinyls come back or the liner notes. Yes, yes, 619 00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,800 and so we incorded incorporated quite a bit of liner notes in there about the 620 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,679 different stories behind the song. Oh cool, cool, very cool. Yeah. 621 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,599 Yeah, and yeah people still buy CDs, uh, certainly too, 622 00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,559 you know, for that for that reason, you know, people people like 623 00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:19,719 to have the liner notes. And of course Vinyl someone had told me. 624 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,800 I think in twenty twenty two it was the first year that Vinyl had actually 625 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,519 outsold CDs. Really. Yeah, well, you know with Vinyl two. 626 00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:30,559 I mean a lot of people, you know, they'll buy vinyl of their 627 00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:32,079 favorite artists and then never open it. You know, they just buy it 628 00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:36,079 to collect it and then they'll leave it sealed, but they'll you know, 629 00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:39,320 put it on their bookshelf or whatever it is. So but i'd read an 630 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:46,159 article where actually there's less homes now with CDs in them. Yeah, it 631 00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:50,559 used to be like that's really going to you really only find CD players in 632 00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:53,440 people's cars, yep, And I figure those are probably go by the wayside 633 00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:58,119 in the next year or two, probably haven't already. Yeah. Yeah. 634 00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:02,719 It's interesting to see over time what what technologies go away, what technologies stick 635 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:08,480 around, because it's it's often hard to predict, you know, like cassette 636 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:13,960 tapes stuck around, probably about five or six years longer than I expected. 637 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,639 And then a few years ago I was on band camp and even cassettes were 638 00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:21,440 back. I couldn't believe it. I saw I saw a local independent artist 639 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,440 putting out cassettes. Wow, yeah, did you Yeah? You know, 640 00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:27,960 yeah, I didn't even know you could buy a cassette player anymore. Yeah, 641 00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,360 I think high end stuff, I guess. Yeah, you can get 642 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,320 them online and uh but yeah, people, I mean, I don't know 643 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,199 if anyone actually I think it's I think it's an idea similar to with vinyl. 644 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,719 You know, you buy the cassette, but you don't necessarily listen to 645 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,920 it, you know, unless you really like the sound of tape hiss, 646 00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,760 why would you. But if you really like an artist. But yeah, 647 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,559 you can go on band camp and there's artists selling cassettes limited edition cassettes. 648 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:52,280 It's it's wild, so you just never know. Yeah, yeah, but 649 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:58,199 uh, Lou, I'm dying to hear you play. And I know we 650 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,360 were talking off during the break about this up this song message from Harry, 651 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,920 and I don't know if you want to tell us about it before you play 652 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,800 it or sure. Yeah. Well, actually recently I've put together a small 653 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,199 stage show that we've been doing called You, Me and Harry and what it 654 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:22,199 is. It's a very intimate solo performance, just me doing quite a bit 655 01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:28,679 of Harry Chapin's music. And you know he's he's well known for his story 656 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,880 songs, right, songs like Taxi and so on. Yeah, well, 657 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:37,760 this particular song, it's the only Lou Antonucci song in the show. Oh 658 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,360 but it was kind of inspired out of an incident that happened. You know. 659 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:46,599 I play all around southern New Hampshire, and I was before I had 660 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:51,920 written this song. I had just gotten back into performing because I had worked 661 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,760 in high tech for a number of years right sold the company finally had the 662 01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:00,599 opportunity to retire earlier, just get back into music, and so I started 663 01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:05,039 playing again, picking up my old repertoire. And I hadn't had a complete 664 01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,159 yet, right, it's just adding songs from my past and work and run. 665 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:15,760 One night at the Copper Door over in Bedford, Yeah, and I'm 666 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,679 just finishing up a song and I see a gentleman. He gets up from 667 01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:22,920 the bar and he walks over. He's got a napkin in his hand. 668 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:28,400 Yeah. And he hands me the napkin and I see there's one word on 669 01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:30,800 the napkin. And I immediately look up at him and I say, oh, 670 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,440 you must be a Harry Chapin fan, because the word was taxi. 671 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,480 Yeah. He wanted to hear taxi. Yeah. And so he said, 672 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,760 hey, can you do this song? And I said, well, you 673 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,159 know I haven't haven't performed that song probably for twenty years. Wow, you 674 01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:50,119 know I might be able to figure it out. He says, well, 675 01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:53,320 I'll tell you what if you if you can play the chords, I can 676 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:58,639 sing it. Well, Matt, I don't know if if if you've been 677 01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:01,559 out performing anywhere, but the last thing you want to do is when someone 678 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,119 is missing at the bar for two hours walks up and says he can sing, 679 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,880 the last thing you want to do is give him the microphone. So 680 01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:13,079 I quickly ran through some chords, and I figured out the song. Yeah, 681 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:20,239 and I did it, and I blew myself away because I didn't. 682 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,000 I didn't screw it up. I remembered all the words, remembered all the 683 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:27,239 chords. I must have played it thousands of times when I was younger. 684 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:34,239 Yeah. So, and that's not even that's not even the craziest thing that 685 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,760 happened that night, which kind of comes at the end of the song. 686 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,920 So I'll leave that that little opening. But I went home that night and 687 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,559 the next day and I wrote this song. Okay, it's called Message from 688 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:59,000 Harry all right, wonderful play in front and night at the copper door. 689 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:06,199 I got him. Messis from Harray. When one of his fans walked across 690 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:15,840 the floor handed me a note, just one word heard on a paper napkin. 691 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:21,880 Took me back to when I was young. I must have played that 692 01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:35,119 request a thousand times back then, got a single note one Now. The 693 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,480 man stood there with his drink in his hand, asked me if I could 694 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,360 have glide, said it's his favorite song. He could sing along if I 695 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:54,440 could figure out the tune. It's been too many miles on this old guitar 696 01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:01,480 since I last sang those words. But I told this guy I'd give it 697 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:11,000 one good try if I could get me up the nerve. Harry, will 698 01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:18,159 I do with justice? Harry? Will I make you proud? Not everybody's 699 01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:24,440 looking call that story's all, But there's this one man in the crowd. 700 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:33,000 I could have said, I'm sorry, I haven't played that one in yes, 701 01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:41,559 but something told me to give it a go, and I overcame my 702 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:54,800 feet. Now I started slow as it goes. I was a million miles 703 01:04:55,119 --> 01:05:02,400 away. His story has had a way of doing that even to this day. 704 01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:14,559 Well, the lyrics flewed like satin off the tail that herod spun it 705 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:19,960 in twenty odd years since I sang those words. But I remembered everyone. 706 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:44,079 Yeah, I surprised myself full remembering. And about three or four minutes in 707 01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:50,519 that man he made his way back to the bar. Wre's a whiskey in 708 01:05:50,679 --> 01:06:00,440 his hand, and I could see him mouth and neverword hadn't. It didn't 709 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:09,159 miss me. It made us night. It made one too. However, 710 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:18,280 bitter sweet Harry, did I too with justice? Harry? Did I make 711 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:26,519 you proud? Not everybody's looking for that story song, But there's this one 712 01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:34,519 man in the crowd. I could I said, I'm sorry, I haven't 713 01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:41,880 played that one in yet. Something told me to give it a go, 714 01:06:43,360 --> 01:07:01,880 and I overcame my feet because I was leaving fully even in part it out 715 01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:09,840 the door. This limo pulled up. This couple jumps out, just trying 716 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:19,400 to make last call, but the door had locked behind me, bolted for 717 01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:26,519 the night. They looked at me and I said, yeah, they're closed, 718 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:38,519 as their limo drove out of side, and yes, I packed my 719 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:45,599 car. They stood there in the Chile winter frost. I could see they 720 01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:57,840 had disappoint me, wondering if that night was lost. Neither wore and over 721 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:03,079 the coat, so why off them a riot? But they said thanks, 722 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:15,360 we'll take a taxi. That's when I got all choked up beside Harry. 723 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:20,840 Did I do with justice? Harry? Did I make you proud? Not? 724 01:08:21,079 --> 01:08:28,520 Everybody's looking for that story song. There's this one man in the crowd. 725 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:36,560 I could have said, I'm sorry, I haven't played that one in 726 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:45,359 yet, but I got a message from Harry, and I overcame my feet. 727 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:56,039 Yes, I got a message from Harry, and I overcame my feet. 728 01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:14,640 Oh very nice. Wow, that's that's incredible and you know it's true, 729 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,279 true story. Yeah. Yeah, to this day, I wonder why 730 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,560 the guys said we're taking a taxi right versus like an uber or a lift, 731 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,960 right. But it's just kind of its kind of what what happened earlier 732 01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:28,439 in the evening. It was kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah, wow, 733 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,279 that's fantastic if you're just joining us. Lou and Tanucci is here with 734 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,560 us live in studio. He is on the couch and he's playing some songs 735 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:42,159 and we're talking and having a great time. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry, 736 01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:44,880 one of our great sponsors here at w m NHS in the chat room, 737 01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:48,520 he says, very nice, really like this, Thanks Mike. I also 738 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:55,039 see Gary Smith from Fox and the Flamingos and Jam Tomorrow also on the Facebook 739 01:09:55,119 --> 01:09:59,920 live chat, and my old friend Jay Bellow from the band Jason the Devil 740 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,479 also in the chat room. So we got a very busy, busy chat 741 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,000 room today. A lot of musicians in there, which is good to see. 742 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,079 Do you always finger pick? Do you ever use a pick? Or 743 01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:11,920 do you always? Oh? No, I probably more often than not use 744 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,720 a pick. It's just just depends on the particular song. Yeah, yeah, 745 01:10:15,119 --> 01:10:18,520 I'm always I'm a bass player, but I I use a pick, 746 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:24,079 and I'm always amazed at how people are able to fingerpicking. It just kind 747 01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,800 of fascinates me watching it, like, how do you even make your fingers 748 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,000 do that? Yeah, I didn't know where they go. They just go 749 01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:35,760 where they want to go. Yeah. Have you have you put out other 750 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:44,920 albums prior to this one? The uh No? Actually this was really kind 751 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,840 of the first one I'm done in a long long time. I didn't know 752 01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:53,399 there's there's a song on this this album called Living in My Fantasies, Yeah, 753 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:58,479 which I think you have a track of. Yes, And there was 754 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,199 an album I had done back in I believe it or not nineteen seventy nine, 755 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,520 when I was just a ladd and Sheep was a pup and the name 756 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,279 of the album was Fantasies. If you were to if you were to google 757 01:11:10,399 --> 01:11:15,479 Fantasies Lou Antonucci on on Google, you'd come across this album. Yeah. 758 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,600 It was probably the worst piece of recording I ever had done in my life. 759 01:11:19,079 --> 01:11:21,720 Yeah, because we were young. We did it in the studio where 760 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:27,800 the guy was like the engineer was really into polka bands, so he knew 761 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,279 nothing about what he was doing, but it was just you know, we 762 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,000 did it. And but that album was really the only other album I had 763 01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:39,239 ever done. Wow. But the interesting thing about Fantasies, that song on 764 01:11:39,319 --> 01:11:44,720 the album is completely different from what the song is today. Oh yeah, 765 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,760 yeah, I kind of rewrote it after so many years and put it on 766 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:54,319 this CD. So but yeah, that's really the only thing I've done a 767 01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:59,600 couple of singles way back when forty fives were big and I lived in in 768 01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:03,840 in uh Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, outside of Pittsburgh. Yeah, and this is 769 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,399 definitely a full length there's cheez. How many songs are on here? Like 770 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,560 fifteen tracks? Thirteen fourteen? I think there's thirteen. Wow. Yeah, 771 01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:16,319 we have a call. Hi, Welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's this 772 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:25,439 hello? Oh mister Connerton, sir? Oh, I know that voice. 773 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:30,319 Hey Dave, what's up now? Have all right called in at a bad 774 01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:33,039 time? Well, we do have a musical guest here. If you have 775 01:12:33,119 --> 01:12:38,000 a question for our musical guests, we have Lou Antonucci here with us. 776 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,039 I do not I was not able to log in to listen today. Oh, 777 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,319 I'll call back at a different time, all right, Dave sounds good. 778 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,079 Thank you, Thanks bye bye, Thanks Dave. Great? Here all 779 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:56,239 right, great Dave Ridley. Yeah, there's a there's a lot of tracks 780 01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:59,319 on this album. And you did this solid cedar house, the whole thing. 781 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,239 Yeah, you know, I had I told my wife at one point 782 01:13:02,319 --> 01:13:05,199 and here this, and this was several years ago, that I wanted to 783 01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:10,520 take, you know, my original material that I'd written over the years and 784 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,439 kind of put them all on a CD. Yeah, And she says, 785 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,319 oh, what you know, Well, what would that cost you to do? 786 01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:20,079 And I said, probably about five hundred bucks, go into studio and 787 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:24,680 do it. H She's okay, I'll get that for you for your birthday. 788 01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:30,520 And two years and about five thousand dollars later, I had I had 789 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,279 an album. And by the way, you played Grandfather's song earlier. Yeah, 790 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,199 that was a song I wrote when I was seventeen years old, no 791 01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:40,479 kidding, Yeah, I wrote it from my grandfather when I was seventeen. 792 01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:45,119 You know, like every Italian family, big Italian family, we would spend 793 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:50,560 from as far back as I can remember till my teen years, spent every 794 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,920 Sunday at my grandparents house. Yeah. So I kind of wrote that song 795 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,760 and it was really it's really kind of a metaphor for how our grandparents nurtured 796 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,279 all all the grandchildren. Yeah. Yeah. Has a song changed over the 797 01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:09,399 years or slightly? Yeah, just just slightly few words here and there, 798 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,920 But it really hasn't hasn't deviated much at all. Is that when you started 799 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,000 writing songs at seventeen or were you writing before that? I wrote my first 800 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,840 song when I was thirteen years old? Do you remember it? Uh? 801 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,359 Yeah, I do. Is a matter of fact, that songs on the 802 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:32,720 on the CD. Yeah, oh wow, it's a song called family Life 803 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:40,319 and Freedom okay. And I can remember about that song is my sister and 804 01:14:40,359 --> 01:14:44,920 I had my cousin Rose Marie, who has our baby sitter. Yeah, 805 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,439 and so there's kind of a there's a line in this, you know. 806 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,000 And I did this song, by the way, and had some great musicians 807 01:14:53,119 --> 01:14:58,560 on this album. Rich Gerzina, who's a sas flute horn player, played 808 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,399 with Tower of Power, number of pe Wow, lives here in New Hampshire. 809 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,920 He did all the hornwork and he did some great flute work on this 810 01:15:05,119 --> 01:15:10,399 particular song. I'll do a little bit of it anyway, sure, And 811 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:15,760 it goes like this really only like three chords of the whole song, because 812 01:15:15,079 --> 01:15:19,279 I think that's all I knew at the time. If you come to see 813 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:30,960 me, don't tell Rosne. If you bring me flowers, I would not 814 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:41,920 agree to. All these simple treasures they're in life are free. Believe me. 815 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:58,560 If your heart is broken, find your sacred tree and planted in your 816 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:09,760 garden. So you can hardly see who was of my obsessions when you were 817 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:24,239 loving me. Believe me, Believe me, all I wanted was family, 818 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:36,239 life and freedom. Don't you ever wanted was free? Let's just do that 819 01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:39,520 much of it for it? Yeah? Yeah, so wow, so you 820 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,439 wrote that at thirteen, Yeah, and that was your first one it Yeah, 821 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,960 has that changed? That's probably changed a little bit over the years. 822 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,920 I would think, right, no, no, wow, that's pretty good. 823 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,479 No. But when I was thirteen, Wow, yeah, when we 824 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,600 were doing this album, there's all these, you know, different songs that 825 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,520 came back to me that yeah, I'd written and I you know, and 826 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,840 because because as Rich was able to do, I mean, he just colored 827 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,760 it with the flute and it makes it kind of magical. So yeah, 828 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,960 yeah, that was a lot of fun. Oh, very cool, very 829 01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:12,720 cool. I'm I'm dying to hear another one another? Uh, if you 830 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,720 want to play? Uh, I don't know what. What did you want 831 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,720 to play? Did you want to play? You wanted to save merchant? 832 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,920 Right, you want to save that for later? Yeah, we'll save that. 833 01:17:19,079 --> 01:17:23,560 What about what about my back porch? There you going? Yeah? 834 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,359 I don't pretend to be a country singer, okay at all? Okay, 835 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,640 but a buddy of mine one time says, hey, got a great idea 836 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,520 for a song. It should write a song about your back porch. And 837 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:39,279 I had this phrase in my mind, you know, gonna sit on my 838 01:17:39,399 --> 01:17:43,439 back porch and write a new song. Yeah, so I ended up writing 839 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,079 this song. Uh, just kind of came out. But it's, you 840 01:17:47,159 --> 01:17:51,199 know, it's it's somewhat country. It has that sound to it. It's 841 01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:55,600 got you know, boy and girl break up, it's got missing you, 842 01:17:56,399 --> 01:17:58,920 it's got the back porch, it's got whiskey. I think the only thing 843 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,159 that doesn't have is a pick truck. Okay, right, so fair enough, 844 01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:14,000 all right, we'll see all see all this. We goes all gonna 845 01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:23,439 sit on my back porch and write a new song. Not quite sure. 846 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:30,680 The melogi and I just don't know how long hit my tick to come together 847 01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:40,079 as I wrestle with the two. I only know this song will be a 848 01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:50,279 boy how much I'm missing you, gonna wrap my head around the thought of 849 01:18:50,560 --> 01:19:00,640 losing you. Try and understand the best I can the choice you had to 850 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:10,319 make when you walked away from loving me in a struggle to survive. I 851 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:18,760 only hope this song get help to heal the hurt I feel inside. I'm 852 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:30,039 missing you in a mone head as a live weaken day, missing you in 853 01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:39,079 a daytime it's messing with my head. I'm missing you in the night time 854 01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:48,079 when I need someone new hole and I really miss those loving arms to kept 855 01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:58,359 me from the cold. I'm gonna sit on my back porch, drink some 856 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:08,239 whiskey, try and understand the best I can the choice you had to make 857 01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:16,880 when you walked away from loving me in our struggle to survive. I a'll 858 01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:27,439 let know this song get helped to heal the heard I feel inside. And 859 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:39,880 I'm along long way from forgiving you got I'm not that far away from being 860 01:20:40,279 --> 01:20:48,600 stone. If I get the feeling I might call you on the phone. 861 01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:57,399 On second thought, I guess that I'll just sit here and drink along. 862 01:21:00,279 --> 01:21:08,279 I'm missing you in the morning head as a live weakend. Ben, I'm 863 01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:15,199 missing you in the evening, well, that's messing with my head. I'm 864 01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:24,640 missing in the night time when I need someone to hold you know, I 865 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:34,119 really miss those loving arms that kept me from the cold. I'm gonna sit 866 01:21:34,319 --> 01:21:43,119 on my back porch and ride a new song, and I know this song 867 01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:56,439 will be about how much I'm missing he. That's cool. I like it. 868 01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,920 It has a good beat. Yeah, yeah, we'll give it a 869 01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:02,159 nine like it's it's got kind of a bounce to it. I dig it 870 01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:05,439 a lot. If you're just joining us, A Lou Antonucci is here with 871 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,159 us. He is live in studio. He's playing some songs for us and 872 01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:12,000 we're talking and uh, this is great, this is great. Do you 873 01:22:12,039 --> 01:22:14,319 play out a lot? Do you do a lot of shows? I do. 874 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,720 I do a lot of restaurants and bars. They generally will pay three 875 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,720 to three to four nights a week. Oh wow, yeah, so you're 876 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,600 pretty busy. That's yeah. Yeah, it keeps me busy. It slows 877 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,880 down a little bit in the winter, simply because so many places have added 878 01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:34,760 outdoor patios and entertainment, but then winter comes, they lose their entertainer. 879 01:22:35,039 --> 01:22:39,800 Right, but yeah, and like I said, working on this Harry show, 880 01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:42,479 I'll be doing a lot more of those. We're kind of putting together 881 01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:45,159 a tour in New England for the spring. Oh good of that show, 882 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,840 and we've gotten great response to it so far. We did a show in 883 01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:56,359 Vermont show in Pennsylvania and got a great response from both the venues and the 884 01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,239 and the audiences. So looking forward to that come spring. Excellent, excellent. 885 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,520 Now, so do you have are there a lot of people on stage 886 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,800 with you? Or is it mostly just you? Or no? No, 887 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,600 no, me, me and my guitar. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, 888 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,720 there's really nothing else. Yeah, and you know that's when when Harry 889 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,239 would do a you know, a solo show, that was it. Yeah, 890 01:23:19,279 --> 01:23:23,840 you know, he didn't use pedals, didn't have you know, loopers 891 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,159 any of that guy. You know, it's just him and his guitar. 892 01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:30,159 So I try to keep it pretty uh authentic. Yeah. Yeah. Is 893 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:32,880 that is that challenging or does that kind of come naturally to do that? 894 01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:36,319 Well? I think it comes naturally because when I was when I was young 895 01:23:36,399 --> 01:23:41,680 and I was playing, I would play uh you know and in some clubs 896 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:46,319 I played when I was in my early twenties. I would do four five 897 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,159 nights a week, four hours a night. Wow, and just me and 898 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:54,439 my guitar and yeah, you know, all that stuff gets ingrained and and 899 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,399 oh yeah, and I'm old school, so that's that's kind of how I 900 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,119 do it today too. Yeah, so you're you're wild conditioned to be able 901 01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:02,279 to pull that off. God, because that everyone can pull that off, 902 01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:06,359 you know. Uh no, no it's not it's not easy. Yeah, 903 01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:10,039 it's not easy. And uh but I get you know, I get great 904 01:24:10,079 --> 01:24:12,840 response, and I do when I play at the clubs. I do all 905 01:24:13,279 --> 01:24:15,960 all the classic acoustic stuff. Yeah, you know, the Neil Young, 906 01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:20,520 James Taylor, Jim Croche, Harry Chapin. Yeah, and I think you 907 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,359 know, people they enjoy that that era of music. So yeah, now 908 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,479 when you're doing that, do you mix in originals with the covers. Yeah, 909 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:30,720 I'll throw I'll throw a few in. Yeah, but you know, 910 01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:35,760 you know, again, those venues aren't the venues where originals are the big 911 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,600 thing. But I'll throw in a few like my back porch. Yeah, 912 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,479 you know, upbeat tune, that type of thing. You get into the 913 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,000 six seven minutes songs and you know, people want to get their second beer 914 01:24:46,079 --> 01:24:50,319 by the time you're two thirds of the way through it. But yeah, 915 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,920 that can that part can be a challenge. Yeah, well I'm sure. 916 01:24:55,079 --> 01:24:57,880 So did you want to play did you want to play reunion? I'm sure 917 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,840 I'd love to hear that live. That's a great Yeah, thank you. 918 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,000 Oh so you've you've heard you've heard that on that track? Yes? Oh 919 01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:06,720 okay, yeah, yeah online on Uh yeah. I listened to it on 920 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,880 YouTube and I was like, it's very it's a lot of emotion with that. 921 01:25:11,279 --> 01:25:13,720 Well, it's you know, you know, it's it's the type and 922 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:18,680 interesting. I just got back from Pittsburgh because our high school just had our 923 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:26,359 fifty year class reunion wow, and the head of the reunion committee had kind 924 01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:30,640 of commissioned me to write a song for the class, and then I, 925 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,199 as a surprise, which was not the easiest surprise to keep, I performed 926 01:25:35,239 --> 01:25:40,840 the song at the reunion wow. Yeah, and it went over well, 927 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,479 it was great. So uh no, it's fun being back there. But 928 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,439 you know, when you think about it and you think back to those high 929 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:53,119 school days, right, uh, there's usually always someone whether it's your girlfriend 930 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:57,279 or your boyfriend, you've got this great relationship with you've grown up with through 931 01:25:57,399 --> 01:26:00,439 school, and you always had this thing for them, right, Yeah, 932 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:05,880 and then you graduate, you end up going your separate ways, and you're 933 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:11,840 always thinking about what what could have been? Sure? Right, and so 934 01:26:12,079 --> 01:26:17,079 you go back to these reunions halfway thinking, I wonder if I'll see so 935 01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:21,039 and so right again. So that's really what this this song is about. 936 01:26:21,279 --> 01:26:48,239 Okay, in a different world, did you used to be holy? Holy 937 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:58,720 me? But it's not the past that haunts me. So it's that I'll 938 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:19,119 let you go. When we were kids, you live next door, your 939 01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:31,399 hair was yellow gold. I'd stand outside your kitchen door, struggle to be 940 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:45,840 bold. Who would share my coak and jaw penny candies house stuck in sticky 941 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:58,119 fingers, Those simple treasures came in handy. We will go so young and 942 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:25,760 so nigh with you. I'd share my words. See in a sense we 943 01:28:26,079 --> 01:28:38,720 shared together. We'd grow into devotion, our innocence. We lost together, 944 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:55,520 and it tangled up our emotion. We grew apart by graduation. So we're 945 01:28:55,600 --> 01:29:06,199 not so unexpected. Our love or just in five tuition has kept us close 946 01:29:08,279 --> 01:29:26,359 even we struggle to break free. And all the years I spent in longing, 947 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:40,520 worri or ears the same, all the fear of not belonging. I 948 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:54,920 just wanted one more chance to dance with you in a different world. Used 949 01:29:54,960 --> 01:30:04,159 to be only you, only in me. But it's not the past that 950 01:30:04,319 --> 01:30:27,000 haunts me. So instead, I'll let you go. Though time has seen 951 01:30:27,159 --> 01:30:40,159 us boil, enjoy misfortune and his favor, a family life so much more, 952 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:54,159 but nothing left to save now, and your photographs a different scene? 953 01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:05,159 Then what your eye confess it? It's the simple truth you can't reveal. 954 01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:25,800 It's brought us here once again. Now I struggle to be bold and past 955 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:38,880 reunions notwithstanding, let's feels so right to me. I have to ask before 956 01:31:39,319 --> 01:31:48,760 I leave. Now, can I have just one more chance to dance with 957 01:31:49,039 --> 01:32:03,920 you in a different world? Used to be only you, only me? 958 01:32:06,319 --> 01:32:15,000 But it's not the past that haunts me, So settle, let you go. 959 01:32:29,039 --> 01:32:32,279 Mmmm. Wow, that's so good, that's so good. Thank you. 960 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,359 Lou Antonucci is with us live in studio. If you're just joining us 961 01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:44,279 today on Matt Connerton Unleashed and wow, that's yeah? That that song? 962 01:32:44,399 --> 01:32:46,800 Boy, really, I don't know it paints a picture. I almost hate 963 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,880 to say it sounds cliche to say it that way, but it really does. 964 01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:54,800 You know, it's that that's really that's really good. Do you have 965 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,159 I mean, is there is there anything on the album that's kind of a 966 01:32:57,199 --> 01:33:00,199 favorite of yours that you you particularly love to play live that or that gets 967 01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:04,479 a particular response from people, right? Well, I think the Merchant obviously, 968 01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:14,720 the Merchant on Market Square. It's it's an interesting song because I'll tell 969 01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,479 you this. You know, obviously, I've been playing music since I twelve 970 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:24,680 thirteen, yea and writing songs here and they're all along the way. That 971 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:30,279 song Merchant on Market Square is the only song out of all of my songs 972 01:33:30,039 --> 01:33:35,000 that I actually sat down one day and said, I'm going to write a 973 01:33:35,079 --> 01:33:40,840 song about that subject. Okay. Usually all these other songs like I'll get 974 01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:45,359 an idea and then something just comes out. Yeah, And you know it's 975 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,880 most of the times it's both the melody and the lyrics at the same time. 976 01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:51,439 Yeah, And that's kind of how I write. Or there's some emotional 977 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,439 event that kind of really gets in my head and sure I'll write about it. 978 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,640 But that that song again, I was I was born and raised outside 979 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:05,039 of Pits again, and it was the early eighties. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania was 980 01:34:05,079 --> 01:34:12,880 going through a renaissance, both a cultural and a physical renaissance. The steel 981 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,279 mills were moving out and had been moving out, and there were a lot 982 01:34:16,319 --> 01:34:19,399 of there were a lot of corporate headquarters used to be based in Pittsburgh, 983 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:26,159 Rockwell International, US Steel, a lot of those companies and have since moved 984 01:34:26,359 --> 01:34:30,359 on. One of the companies, uh PPG. You've probably heard of them 985 01:34:30,399 --> 01:34:36,760 as PPG Industries, Pittsburgh Painting Glass, they were originally called. So Pittsburgh 986 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:43,079 wanted to keep them and their corporate offices in the city. And so what 987 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:46,560 they what they did was they put together a deal and offered up PPG prime 988 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:54,319 real estate rakedowntown in Pittsburgh to build their world headquarters. And if you look 989 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,399 like if you're watching Monday night football and the Steelers are playing, and you 990 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,520 see the see in the background, you see this big, t all building. 991 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,760 It's all glass. It looks like a castle at the top with four 992 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:10,239 corners. That's the PPG headquarters below. And but to do this, what 993 01:35:10,399 --> 01:35:15,479 they what the town, what the city of Pittsburgh did was they took a 994 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,239 big, big part of what was known as Market Square not unlike Fannel Hall. 995 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,920 Picture Fannel Hall. It was a big square in the middle of the 996 01:35:25,039 --> 01:35:30,079 city from the early eighteen hundreds, cobblestone streets, you know, family owned 997 01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:33,039 businesses, bistro shops, all of that, and so they were going to 998 01:35:33,119 --> 01:35:39,960 take about two thirds of that. And to do that they offered some remuneration 999 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,840 to the businesses, but really not that much, yea. And there were 1000 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,520 some businesses that held out and went to court and fought it. They didn't 1001 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:55,000 want to give their lifelong businesses up. Unfortunately they all lost. The city 1002 01:35:55,119 --> 01:36:00,880 took the property by imminent domain and the rest is history. The interesting thing 1003 01:36:01,039 --> 01:36:04,760 is when I do the song around Pittsburgh, always get requests for it, 1004 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,159 and you know, but I find when I play it out. I did 1005 01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:14,319 it at at at a place called Stage thirty three up in Vermont, and 1006 01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:16,399 on one of the breaks, a guy came up to me and said, 1007 01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:19,039 boy, that song really hit home. That says all, are you from 1008 01:36:19,039 --> 01:36:23,600 Pittsburgh and he goes he goes, no, I'm from Baltimore. My family's 1009 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:28,680 from Baltimore. But my grandfather, who used to be known as like the 1010 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,359 Banana King of Baltimore, he would distribute and bring in all the fruit and 1011 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:36,840 vegetables for all the grocery store. The same thing happened to him where the 1012 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:42,079 city ended up taking his business by eminent domain to do some you know, 1013 01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:45,039 renovation of the city of renaissance in the city. So yeah, it's still 1014 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:49,640 somewhat valid today. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. All right, I 1015 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:55,199 guess that's a great introduction for this. Yeah. Yeah, I'd love enough 1016 01:36:55,239 --> 01:36:57,840 time. Oh, definitely, definitely, yeah, i'd I'd love to hear 1017 01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:04,239 it absolutely all right. So I'm gonna do this one. Uh. Good 1018 01:37:04,359 --> 01:37:11,640 musical friend of mine back in Demon Valley. Uh, she always tells me 1019 01:37:13,079 --> 01:37:15,600 this is your favorite favorite song. And I was there to do I was 1020 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:19,760 there to do the Harry Show. And she had asked me that evening before 1021 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,760 I left if I could just play this for Oh, and I forgot. 1022 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,399 I forgot and never did get to do it. Oh. So this one's 1023 01:37:26,439 --> 01:38:05,640 for a net if you're out there a net, I don't. I'm a 1024 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:12,159 merchant here on market Square, try to save my piece of the pies. 1025 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,920 Really right or even fair for my life us to be denied for the renaissun 1026 01:38:18,079 --> 01:38:30,840 saw glass and steel the cities on their side, it's tearing down my life 1027 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:40,600 too fast. You're moving too fast for a simple man like me. We're 1028 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:46,039 todd half a life on the south side series my family, my business crew. 1029 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:51,520 I'll move uptown here to market Square, a life savings down. City 1030 01:38:51,640 --> 01:39:03,760 says tearing down, give it all to BEBG. Too slow. The carts 1031 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:09,840 too slow for a common man like me. My friends said stay, but 1032 01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:15,000 the judge said no. I thought this life was sweet. One by one, 1033 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,439 the shots close down their own market square. I'm losing ground. Won't 1034 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:24,840 give it, won't lay it down, won't give it all to be pige 1035 01:39:27,039 --> 01:39:32,159 lord. The merchant here on market Square tried to save my piece of the 1036 01:39:32,279 --> 01:39:39,239 pie. To really a right or even fair for my livelihood to be denied 1037 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:49,920 for the renaissance of glass and steal the cities on the side to charing down 1038 01:39:50,479 --> 01:40:00,720 my life by my life. I'm just a I'm a mind you CD, 1039 01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:13,840 my business crew. I moved uptown here to market Square, life savings down. 1040 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:26,640 The citizens tearry down, give it all to Ppgee too much. It's 1041 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:31,239 all too much for a broken man like me. My bank accouncil, I 1042 01:40:31,399 --> 01:40:36,119 empty here and there's a little hole in my lease. We'll give you thirty 1043 01:40:36,279 --> 01:40:41,439 days. It's got a minute more here on market Square. I gotta close 1044 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,760 my doors. Makes no sense. If I want to eat, you gotta 1045 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:51,960 go to work for Ppge the Lord. I'm a merchants late on the market 1046 01:40:53,039 --> 01:40:58,279 Square trying to save my piece of the pipe. To really right, we're 1047 01:40:58,359 --> 01:41:04,199 even fair for my life to be denied for the random son saw the glass 1048 01:41:04,279 --> 01:41:32,640 and Steel the cities on this side. That's Sarran down. Wow, that's 1049 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,520 my favorite of the ones you've played. I love that. I love that, 1050 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,760 the Renaissance of Glass and Steel. Wow, thank you. Yeah. 1051 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,760 Yeah, we're really good, really good. Yeah, that's I don't know 1052 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,760 if you've listened to the one on the CD, but you know I mentioned 1053 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:51,560 Jerry doing lead guitar. Yeah, and he plays lead guitar on that song. 1054 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:58,000 And the interesting thing is he goes back and forth between nylon string guitar 1055 01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:02,279 and electric guitar. Yeah, and it's like kind of the two eras battling 1056 01:42:02,399 --> 01:42:05,359 themselves. Interesting in the middle of the song. I gotta listen. Yeah, 1057 01:42:05,359 --> 01:42:08,319 I haven't listened to that one. I gotta I gotta check that out 1058 01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:12,319 though. Yeah, I'm very curious now by the way, DJ Steve Stephen 1059 01:42:12,399 --> 01:42:15,199 Light is in the chat room. He says, loving it great, playing 1060 01:42:15,359 --> 01:42:18,479 Lou, Yeah, absolutely, thanks so much. I love the lyrics of 1061 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,560 that track too. I can see where you know you told the story about 1062 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:26,039 the guy from Baltimore. I can see where people from other cities would would 1063 01:42:26,199 --> 01:42:29,359 also relate to the subject matter. You know that's interesting. Yeah, it 1064 01:42:29,399 --> 01:42:35,439 happens all over absolutely absolutely. We are running short on time, so I 1065 01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,960 want to make sure people know where to find you, where to find you 1066 01:42:39,079 --> 01:42:42,680 online, where to h You're playing out a lot, so we want to 1067 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,600 make sure people know where to where they can find out, how to see 1068 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,000 you live and or get the CD or anything at all. Where's the best 1069 01:42:48,039 --> 01:42:53,680 place? Should probably spell your last name for people. Hey, that's Antonucci, 1070 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:59,520 just like it sounds a N T O N you c C I okay, 1071 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,560 and it's Lu not l E. W right and you can you can 1072 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:10,359 find me at Lou Antonucci music dot com. Everything you need to know or 1073 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:15,920 need to access is right there. Uh. This this album, Almost Perfect 1074 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,840 Flight, it's on the whole album is is on YouTube. So if you 1075 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:25,159 just if you typed in Lou Antonucci Space an Almost Perfect Flight, you could 1076 01:43:25,239 --> 01:43:29,199 stream the whole album yes, yes. Oh. By the way, where 1077 01:43:29,199 --> 01:43:30,920 does the I meant to ask you too, where does the title come from? 1078 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,000 The album title an almost perfect flight? It sounds like something that would 1079 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,239 have a story behind it. I'm so I'm curious. Well, it does 1080 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,039 a little bit. It's you know, I worked in high tech for years. 1081 01:43:44,119 --> 01:43:48,239 I traveled all over the place and I remember getting off a plane one 1082 01:43:48,319 --> 01:43:50,800 time and one of the one of the guys I was traveling with, said, 1083 01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:55,800 we had turbulence, you know, yeah, we got off and he 1084 01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:59,279 says, oh, well, that was an almost perfect flight, and it 1085 01:43:59,399 --> 01:44:02,119 just kind of stuck with me, and it's it's a line in the in 1086 01:44:02,199 --> 01:44:05,600 the Fantasy song as well. Oh okay, yeah, I think I'm a 1087 01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:12,159 I'm actually gonna end with with uh with that, uh the studio track there, 1088 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,960 great of that. Yeah, that'll be a that'll be a good way 1089 01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,199 to end it. Since since you mentioned it, Lou, thank you so 1090 01:44:16,319 --> 01:44:19,000 much. This has been amazing. It's been fun, Matt. I really 1091 01:44:19,039 --> 01:44:23,199 appreciate it, absolutely amazing. And I just want to say on the record 1092 01:44:23,239 --> 01:44:28,439 too, you're the most prepared guest I've ever had. So well done, 1093 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:32,399 sir, well done. This has been great, though, Lou Antonucci everybody, 1094 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,520 and if you miss any part of today's show it we'll be up in 1095 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:39,399 just a little bit at w M and H radio dot org and on my 1096 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:44,399 website Matt Connerton dot com. And we will leave you with this. What's 1097 01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,359 the full title of this song, Living in My Fantasies, Living in My 1098 01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:51,479 Fantasies by the Great Lou Antonucci. Check this out. It'll freak you out.