Jf I Am six forty is later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app. We have a tremendous show tonight. So much to discuss.
Last night, I was I had some reservations about really weighing in on
that La Metro writer who was shot at around five pm yesterday because not all
the details had come in. In fact, they still have not come all
the way in. But we'll try to talk about it as delicately as possible.
And I was having this conversation with Tawala yesterday. It's not our goal
to be first. It's our goal to be accurate. It's not our goal
just to tell you anything and everything which happens to be near Metro, around
Metro, underneath a Metro sign or in Los Angeles County someone who happens to
ride the Metro. Now, we want to make sure that it had to
do with Metro or there was a safety issue regarding Metro. And there are
scant details about the shooting. So that's why I didn't go all the way
in because not everything is clear. And I'll tell you what I mean in
the next segment, but we are going to discuss it tonight. Kevin Spacey,
he's returned to TV, not in an acting capacity, or maybe he
was, depending on how cynical you are, but he has returned to TV
in the sense of having an interview. He was interviewed by Chris Cuomo last
night, and I thought it was pretty eye opening. I thought it was
revealing. And here's the short answer. I think it was two guys commiserating
about me too, more so than it was an actual interview. But we'll
place some audio from that. And regardless of how you feel about Kevin Spacey
or Chris Cuomo for that matter, there's some real discussion points in what was
said. And if you've been watching entertainment television, you probably have seen the
video by now of Diddy allegedly Diddy kicking, punching, pummeling, and dragging
singer Slash supposed girlfriend Cassie Ventura in a Los Angeles hotel lobby excuse me,
elevator opening, and it's been on Loop on CNN and other stations and channels
as well. I'm not saying I told you so, but I'm saying that
we told you so. We told you who Diddy was a long time ago.
We told you that there was going to be a reckoning for the me
too in a me too sense, regardless in the music industry. We told
you that the rest of the world is now catching up. The evidence is
now catching up to what we have been telling you. And if you listen
to talk radio justin just with respect to news and talk, this show is
the only show that you will hear firsthand accounts of having to deal with Didty,
having some first hand vantage points of who didd he is as an executive,
who he is as a dude, and how he treats people. This
is the only show we told you months ago and will remind you again tonight
in lou I should say, in light of that video which is making its
rounds around the world right now, people are shocked, not me. That
just validated and verified what I'd already been trying to tell you for the past
few weeks. I told you specifically about an assault at Interscope Records that I
was there for when he and his bodyguards assaulted Steve Stout. He was reported
in La Times, but I guess it didn't resonate because there was no video.
Now it resonates because there's video. Well, we'll talk about that later
as well. Oh and by the way, Diddy's alleged drug mule accept the
plea deal no jail time. You have to imagine that if there's no jail
time for that plea deal, he traded up. He had a pretty good
profer. He flipped, as they say, on somebody. They got you
with the drugs, they got you trying to transport it. No jail time.
That means you flipped on someone. We'll talk about that and Friday Nights
with Nautica de la Cruz. Bakshi's back in town. We got the RNA
report. Good evening, Mark Ronner, what are we talking about tonight?
Tonight we're talking about The Strangers, Chapter one. I couldn't get to Walla
to go to it with me. Would you believe that I wouldn't go to
the corner with you? That's not very nice, It's true. Let's show
a little decorum on Friday. What about We had the quorum all week.
We talked about the school protests, we talked about the Metro in a serious
way the whole damn week. I'm done with the korum. I'm tired of
it. Not enough. What's just gonna look like I'm tired of dignity.
I'm tired of all that's fortunate for assault. I'm tired of decency. I
need some indecency now, I need some undignified behavior. Well, let's just
see what that looks like for the next two Careful what you ask for.
Yeah, okay, but that's the run report, and we are going to
be giving away tickets. I'll take this. We're giving away tickets today tonight,
a Disney four pack, one park ticket giveaway tonight. And I'll tell
you this, it's not this segment, so you have to keep listening.
Tall. How you doing, brother, No, I'm good now, okay,
Yeah, you have some trouble getting here. Yeah, it's a little,
just a little, I'm a little rough out. There a lot of
things that had to do at at the end of the day, which I
said to myself, I wish I would have known this stuff in advance.
Oh, they dropped stuff on your desk at four thirty on a Friday.
Hey, we need this like right now, yes, you know. And
then the kids all over the place is just you know, l A on
the and the south Land on a Friday night, and you've got multiple places
to be and a lot of traveling has to be done on freeway. It's
like, blank my life. Man, did you have to pop your trunk?
No? No, no, no need, don't need to pop my
trunk. And really and truly I had I know someone who recently had had
a heart attack, not not not serious, not serious, you know.
But he's right, they're all serious, but there's no by by definition I
mean not fatal. I'm sorry, not that's not serious, not fatal.
And he was talking about, you know, his change in life of what
he was doing in one thing that he was doing in life was practicing peace
first, you know, because he felt like, you know, because he's
in shape, you know, and he's like, you know, this is
this is a stress related heart attack, you know. And and I saw
that post, I'm like, man, I think I said something to the
extent like, you know, I'm glad that we are reading your first hand
account versus reading about you passing. And I thought to myself, like,
dude, it is more important to make it home at the end of the
day than to go to wallow on somebody, because anymore anymore. And I
and I've tried, you know, I'm I'm practicing in this new path.
I'm not all the way there. I'm not taking care of kung fu yet.
You know, I'm not ready to snatch the pebble out of Mark's hand,
but I am trying. I am practicing piece as much as I possibly
can. Just please don't blank with me. Just leave me the blank alone.
But that's all good. But if someone tells you to blank off,
than what I'm going to give them a double mark with both hands. Well
that's a nice passing the baton to Mark. Mark. Have you flipped off
anyone on the freeway this week? Not today specifically? I think I got
flipped off earlier in the week because somebody was trying to do that thing where
they where they're in the merge lane and they try and speed up around you.
Oh yes, I hate that, ye and I wouldn't have any of
that. And the guy, whether it was Robin or whoever it was,
it was meant for her. They did not appreciate it. And and they
found a way to convey that with at least one finger, just one,
at least one on one of their hands. Well possibly Robert Is on the
motorcycle says you can't do both hands, So there you go. She could.
It's probably just unsafe. Motorcycles never have any problem because they go between
the cars or as I call them, organ donors on the motorcycle Robin,
I'm gonna have to have a conversation with you, too bad. We have
to go to a break right now, but we have to have a conversation
about lane splitting. Oh, that's what that's called, right, lane splitting?
All right, and you're going to be representing every motorcycle rider in the
state of California. Just want to let you know in advance. You good
with that, You're not good at that. It's radio, so you're gonna
have to use your voice. She seems thrilled, and we're off. It's
later with Mo Kelly k IF. I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Kelly, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's get
into this latest incident. I guess you can say, which is somewhat connected
to Metro. I say somewhat connected because I want to be fair. I've
been very critical of Metro. I've criticized them extensively. I've criticized leadership,
I've criticized LA's supervisors. LA County supervisors regarding how they've approached Metro. But
I want to be sure that if I were to blame something on Metro or
connected to Metro, that is factually accurate. And here's why this Metro writer
who was shot yesterday and subsequently died. The shooting was around five pm.
There are a lot of missing details here, and let me just read to
you from KTLA dot com and hopefully you'll see what I mean. The suspect
is in custody after what is turned by KTLA yet another deadly incident on a
Metro transit bus, this time in Commerce. Deputies with the La County Sheriff's
Department responded to Slawson and Boxford Avenues just before five pm yesterday on reports of
a person suffering a gunshot wound. This is from the story. Details are
extremely limited and it's unclear how the fatal shooting unfolded, but authorities say the
victim was shot while aboard the bus. Let me stop right there. The
victim being on the bus doesn't tell me whether the shooter was also on the
bus. There's nothing saying that the bus was connected to how this unfolded or
why it unfolded. If it were someone just walking down the street and noticed
someone on the bus and started shooting at that person, be a gang related
or somehow personal in nature, I'm reticent to blame Metro for something that then
wouldn't have had anything to do with Metro. If they're both on the bus,
that to me is different. But if it were a crime of opportunity
because they saw the person and the person happened to be on the bus,
and the person could have been in the car or could have been walking down
the street, in my mind, it's all the same thing. But since
the details, even according to KTLA, are extremely limited, I'm loth to
just assume that this was a failure of safety and security on a Metro bus,
or the Metro bus was more inherently dangerous for that rider. And I
know that's of no consolation to the people who were also riding on the bus
who may have had to dodge a bullet. But in my mind, I
compartmentalize these things, and I think that there's a difference between a random crime
and something like which is more conducive to crime. If you're talking about on
a subway train, that's different. If you're talking about something which happened on
the bus. To me, that's different. But this until they at least
confirm who the shooter was, where the shooter was. Was it somehow connected
to them both being on the bus. I don't know if that's the same
thing. That's why I was slow on the uptick, as I say,
as far as talking about it. But yes, the shooting did come just
hours after board members of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transit Transportation Authority held that
press conference yesterday morning. We played some audio from it, and yes,
they were discussing the seing this high profile crimes, the ration of them which
have been happening on Metro buses and trains, and they've announced plans to increase
law enforcement presence throughout the system. For example, if there was a law
enforcement member on the bus, I don't know if that changes anything. If
the person was shooting from outside the bus, I would like more details before
I go all the way in on Metro. But this does speak to crime
more generally in Los Angeles. This does speak to the lack of safety in
Los Angeles. If people are just shooting in broad daylight and it was five
PM, and if it's happening anywhere and indiscriminately in Los Angeles, then absolutely,
that's part of the larger crime conversation where violent crime statistically may be up
or maybe down. I don't know what the latest talking point is, but
either way, if they're shooting in broad daylight indiscriminately on to buses where you
and I may be just because we're going about our day, that is very,
very troublesome. That is somewhat different than what we've experienced before. That
is different from the other types of crime we've had before. And it may
not be connected directly to Metro or because of the failings of the security of
Metro, but it is definitely connected to the larger discussion of crime, which
is making you and me feel considerably less safe than before. Does it change
whether people are going to ride Metro? Well, if you've been listening to
the reporting of Blake Trolley, he's done a wonderful job trying to get people
who are riders, trying to get people who take the Metro in a bus
capacity or a train capacity. He's been getting to them every single day to
get their sentiments, and it's clear people are noticing the crime. People are
hearing about the crime, and people are concerned about the crime. They don't
care about the minutia, they don't care about the specific details. They just
know that there is a correlation between the amount of crime going on in the
city and mass public transit. And most people who have to ride Metro have
to ride Metro. They're not choosing to ride it. They're not saying,
well, you know what, I might save a little time and money today,
I think I'll ride the Metro and not use my car. No,
they are riding it because they have to. And I was having this conversation
with Tim Conwock Junior before we got in the air, and I don't like
it. I've heard it from a number of elected officials. I've heard it
from just people in the community as a matter of fact, saying that,
well, look at ridership. It is up almost a million people write it
each day. Well, just because a lot of people ride it, that
is not an endorsement of it. That doesn't mean necessarily that it's more safe
or safe enough. It just means that a lot of people are riding it,
or they're riding it in spite of the danger. They're riding it.
Acknowledging the danger. They're riding it completely understanding that it's not as safe as
it should be. Don't think that because people are riding it that they also
have the choice to not ride it. If someone needs to go to work
today, I'm going to use Robin just an example. Let's say she didn't
have her motorcycle and she needed to get to work at a certain time because
the show's going to start at a certain time. And then we work in
a job and a profession where you can't make excuses, and if getting on
the Metro, I suspect I've never asked her this, I'm putting on the
spot. I suspect she probably would get on Metro because she needs to keep
her job, not because she feels it's safe enough. Is that fair,
Robin? Yeah, I've actually even taken it before, several times. You've
taken it. Okay, but it's not your preference, right, Okay,
But all right, you at least have the choice. But if you didn't
have the choice, you're not necessarily gonna have this internal conversation about well,
I don't know how safe it's gonna be. I don't know if it's safe
enough for me to write now you have to get to work in four hours
or lose your job. I've been in that situation before. I know what
that's like. There was a time I was writing it because I had the
choice too. And there are other times I was writing because my car was
in the shop for an extended period of time so I did not have the
choice. Or there was a time where my wife needed to use my car
because hers was in the shop. What am I gonna do. I'm not
gonna go to work. I'm gonna take uber to work. No, I'm
gonna get on public transit and get my ass to my job, even though
it may not be as safe as other people would like us to believe.
It's Later with Moe Kelly. I wanna talk about Kevin Spacey and how he's
trying to uncancel himself given that he wasn't actually canceled. He's looking for a
job and he'll probably get one. We'll tell you about that next. KFI
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Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. I have a problem with folks
who don't understand what our criminal justice system is and what it's designed to do.
Someone can be found not guilty and not actually be innocent. It's not
a declaration of innocence. It means, in large part that the prosecution either
did not meet its burden of proof or there was insufficient evidence and left room
for reasonable doubt. That's all. And every time I read someone is proclaimed
innocent, I said, Okay, you have no idea what you're talking about.
You have absolutely no idea. Someone can be not guilty in a court
of law. It is not a proclamation of innocence. The reason I'm saying
this is because I try to look at all verdicts within that same place.
I don't care if it's OJ Simpson. I don't care if it's Kevin Spacey.
OJ Simpson was found not guilty. Kevin Spacey was found not guilty.
Well what about no, they're both found not guilty. It doesn't mean you
have to believe the verdicts. It doesn't even mean that you have to accept
the verdicts. The verdicts are for a court of law, They are not
for the court of public opinion. You can think what you want about OJ.
You can think what you want about George Zimmerman. You can think what
you want about Kevin Spacey. They were all found not guilty. It doesn't
mean any of them were actually innocent. But Kevin Spacey was accused by multiple
people, and I know he had at least two acquittals. There were some
strange circumstances around the death of of one or two of his accusers, and
one of his accusers dropped a civil lawsuit, I would say, strangely suddenly.
So it's not clean, but it does fall on the side of Kevin
Spacey. Kevin Spacey I enjoyed as an actor, never met him. I
don't know anything about him personally to say I feel one way or the other.
I've had interactions with Diddy, I feel more strongly to talk about him
as a person instead of Kevin Spacey. But Kevin Spacey is back in the
public eye. He had his first interview last night. He gave it to
Chris Cuomo, who's now an anchor on News Nation, and I just wanted
to play some of the audio from that conversation. It was a weird conversation
because we know that Chris Cuomo is not a neutral arbiter. In that conversation.
He's had his own issues with the Me Too movement. He's been accused
of X Y and Z and other forms of questionable behavior towards women. So
he's not interviewing Kevin Spacey from a distance. He has a feeling about of
the subject as well, and he makes it known. He's you know,
he full disclosure. He makes it no but here are some of the things
that Kevin Spacey had to say, and I just wanted to make sure you
heard us. You know where eyeingm coming from. Who do you blame?
Well, I think fear. I think that fear is what drives a lot
of people to make decisions that they make, and I think that you know,
look, I've been very fortunate to have all the people who have stepped
up, and I know there's going to be more coming soon. But there
are also people that I've spoken to who are They love me, they believe
in me, they've stood with me in private personally all the time, but
they're afraid to stand up. And I've been very fortunate that people have been
honest with me about that. And I think that's a shame that we've come
to a place as a society where people are afraid to say what they believe
in, what they feel, because they're afraid they're going to get canceled to
what has been the hardest part in all this emotionally, And he pauses,
I suppose losing as much as I lost, And I think also that what
happened with my family, and I have to say, you know, frankly,
I'm not I'm not putting on a pity party. Yes you are.
There are things that have upset me about decisions that people have made. But
the worst of it was the other day when my brother sold pictures of my
mother in her last dying days, when she was suffering from a very aggressive
brain tumor, and he took photos that he promised would only be for him.
Okay, he's rambling at that point, but you see he Kevin Spacey
clearly views himself as the victim in all of this. There's more can you
handle? If they won't let you back in. I will simply say this,
I don't think that an executive, no matter how powerful, at any
company, should speak for the entire American public or the entire British public.
What I think the public who stopped me all the time. Chris I mean,
I travel all over the world, and I know there's people out there
on the Internet that apparently don't like me and have some nasty things to say
about me. But I have never met one of those people in real life.
Everyone who stops me every single day is every single generous and celebrity to
see me. And if there's a theme to any of our conversations, it's
when are you getting back to work? That's celebrity. You know, fans
walk up to celebrities and talk to them. It's important that you take him
at face value for every word that he says. I was looking this up.
I finally found a quote from somebody I can't say I'm a personal friend,
but it's an editor at a Variety, former Variety editor who I've followed
for years. He said, I covered entertainment for forty years, and Kevin
Spacey was by far the biggest bully I ever met. No, young people
do not want to be around him. Despite what Sharon Stone thinks, what
he's encountering is consequences for his behavior with tons and tons of different people,
and his behavior includes not illegal but reprehensible behavior, treatment of castmates, treatment
of subordinates, questionable. How should I say this, LECHERI yeah, putting
his hands in places where he shouldn't know. Okay, it's more than what
he was criminally accused of. But my overwriting point is he will be back.
They are paving the way for it. This publicity tour is the next
step in that. But here is what I found really really interesting, my
word, the view of the Me too movement from two guys who were accused
by the Me Too movement. The basic contention is, now, it's just
too much. Too much dirt came out and at a certain point you just
have to go, what do you do with that notion? We live in
a country that embraces and believes in due process and believes in the rule of
law and fairness, and I think that we have to be cautious and look
back and say, look, there was some tremendously important and valuable things and
an impact happened with the Me Too movement, that it was time and it
was right. And however, as these sort of pendulums swing from one side
to the other, as you well know, I think it swung very very
far in the direction of unfairness and not allowing people. And I'm not just
talking about myself, but a whole lot of people. I mean, I
know you had your own issues, and I'm glad to see that you've been
offered a path back. But we have to also be careful to make sure
that the pendulum now doesn't swing so far in the other direction, even though
I and a lot of other people believe it's moving in the right direction,
because we have to be conscious that the metio movement was an important one and
a valued one. Being found not guilty does not mean you are innocent.
And also being found not guilty does not mean there wasn't legal a legal predicate
in which you were charged in the first place. Kevin Spacey had his day
in court, due process. He was found not guilty, but it he
either says that he is innocent, nor does it mean that he's a victim.
He is a whiner. However, that was like listening to Bill Maher
and Barry Weiss talk about cancel culture. I mean, give me a break.
He's not canceled. He's been put in time out. He'll be back.
He'll be doing movies before the end of the calendar year. I predict
it's later. With mokel we're gonna talk about Diddy his ass. I wouldn't
call it canceled. His ass is going to jail. It's a different We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
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the iHeartRadio app. If you haven't seen the video by now, you need
to see it. Diddy was allegedly if you haven't seen a video shown at
the Intercontinental Hotel, which was in Century City, kicking, pummeling and dragging
by her hoodie the top of her hoodie Cassie Ventura in the hotel in front
of the elevator public for better description. This was alleged in her lawsuit.
Specifically, she also alleged that this video did not come out prior to now
because she said that Diddy paid fifty thousand dollars for the hotel to bury it.
I guess they didn't bury it deep enough, or whoever he paid the
fifty thousand and two realized it was worth more now and sold it to a
media outlet. I think CNN got it first. But the video validates not
only what Cassie has said, but what I have said, relative to my
limited interactions with Diddy, I've seen him and his bodyguards perpetrate violence. I've
seen that. So this video was only for the confirmation of that. His
reputation within the business preceded him. People always thought about Suge Knight was the
heavy handed one. Yeah he was, but Diddy was also. But that's
just well, we have these discussions, we talk about the music business,
and Twalla Sharpe was the one who hit it on the head and on the
past Mike to him, but he said that there's a me too reckoning And
I said this on the tail end of the Kevin Spacey conversation, there was
a me two reckoning coming specifically for the music industry. Somehow they slipped through
when all the original me too stuff was happening. Now it's time for them
and all of this is just validating what we were saying. Twila, I
thought, it absolutely does. And if it's not Diddy in this video allegedly,
then AI is doing this thing. Because I've watched this video several times
and it is very clear, very clear who is in the video and what
they are doing. This is for everyone who has reached out to you are
and who said you're making too much out of a lot of people. Are
you are trying to drag a black man down. I've heard all the things.
I've heard the but what about but what about it's always but what about
without about right? Like like that has anything to do with or excuses the
accusations against this man. This is this isn't even really about just Diddy.
This is the thing. When we say that all of this is going to
come out in the music industry, he's just one promise. You been in
the in the music industry for a long time and saw a lot of things
happen, and if and if just a third of that comes out, the
music industry will be just torn asunder names. You know a lot that I
can't even comment on because the associated evidence hasn't come out yet. There is
a popular podcast, DJ I Think he goes by DJ Academics, very controversial,
always in always in urban news, uh for some in flammatory thing he
has said right now he is facing rape charges and he's saying they're not true.
But he's recently come out to say, if if I go down,
I am not going down alone. I am bringing down this entire industry because
i have all the receipts of all of the things that you've been hearing about.
I've got the facts, the proof to show who has done what,
and I'm taking everyone down with me. Well, speaking of taking everyone down
with him, the alleged drug mule of Sewn P. Diddy Comb's Brendan Paul
is going to avoid jail time because he's accepted a plea deal. That means
he's given a profer that he's offered up some other name, And if he's
supposedly the drug mule for Sean P. Diddy Combs, then it's probably him.
It's not that far of e leap. But before we go to the
break, joining Uson's studio is Natica de la Cruz. She was coming up
next anyhow with Friday Night Friday Nights with Nataka. But you, Natica,
have worked in radio for out of now twenty five thirty years. Yes,
okay, you have met and talked to and interviewed every person that we have
discussed on this show, every single one, including Diddy. Your thoughts.
You know, I will say that I've interviewed him twice. I've never had
a bad experience, but I always have that cringe moment. I did take
a picture one with him once at this event, and I think it's on
my Instagram at Nautica de la Cruz and the only thing he said to me
was he looked at me and he was like, you're very pretty, and
I said thank you. He goes, you know, if Mariah Carey ever
does a like a movie about herself, you could play her. And I
was like, yeah, huh, okay, what does that have to do
with me? Was this before or after? He was dating j Lo?
Before before? And I said okay, but you know, he the second
time I interviewed him, he came into the studio, but he had this
he had this arrogance about him, and he was a little kind of antsy
in the studio, like, you know, kind of like, oh,
when are we over with this? And when is this interview over? And
I remember saying to him, you know, you said you were going to
give me thirty minutes, and he was like, yeah, I said I
was going to give you thirty minutes and we were already like a maybe twenty
and I said, I'm going to go to commercial break and come back because
that's what we do. And he was like, well, can we can
we speed this up any faster? I said, well, I can't talk
faster than than when I normally talk. And he was like, okay,
well yeah, okay, Well I'll just give you the next ten minutes.
I said, okay, fine, And I actually never never interviewed him after
that, and I didn't have I didn't have the uh, the the want
to do it again. And but I will say that throughout the years,
I did go to some of his parties, not the after parties. Yeah,
the pre party, the pre parties, the white parties, a lot
of white part white partyties. Okay, so you and I know about that,
but I've never was at the after party. But it was I don't
know, you know, I just you hear so many stories about an individual,
and then you know they always say that when you hear the story so
many times, it really becomes a myth. But it really is actuality.
It's true. True. People don't understand. Yes, we just have now
video to confirm either what we've seen, experienced or known. Now video videos
eight years old. Think about all that. Put this one real quickly before
we go to break. If that was done on video in public view in
a hotel. What do you think was happening in the hotel room? What
do you think was that? How many other times was Cassie Ventura beaten?
Five, ten, twenty many? It's later with moo Kelly. We're coming
right back with Friday Nights with Natica Dee La Cruz in just a moment,
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