WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.320 Jf I Am six forty is later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on 2 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:30.280 the iHeartRadio app. We have a tremendous show tonight. So much to discuss. 3 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:36.280 Last night, I was I had some reservations about really weighing in on 4 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:43.320 that La Metro writer who was shot at around five pm yesterday because not all 5 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:46.560 the details had come in. In fact, they still have not come all 6 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.439 the way in. But we'll try to talk about it as delicately as possible. 7 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:56.679 And I was having this conversation with Tawala yesterday. It's not our goal 8 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.439 to be first. It's our goal to be accurate. It's not our goal 9 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.400 just to tell you anything and everything which happens to be near Metro, around 10 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:11.159 Metro, underneath a Metro sign or in Los Angeles County someone who happens to 11 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:14.959 ride the Metro. Now, we want to make sure that it had to 12 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:22.640 do with Metro or there was a safety issue regarding Metro. And there are 13 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.359 scant details about the shooting. So that's why I didn't go all the way 14 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.439 in because not everything is clear. And I'll tell you what I mean in 15 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.560 the next segment, but we are going to discuss it tonight. Kevin Spacey, 16 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.359 he's returned to TV, not in an acting capacity, or maybe he 17 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:44.239 was, depending on how cynical you are, but he has returned to TV 18 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.599 in the sense of having an interview. He was interviewed by Chris Cuomo last 19 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.680 night, and I thought it was pretty eye opening. I thought it was 20 00:01:53.760 --> 00:02:00.200 revealing. And here's the short answer. I think it was two guys commiserating 21 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.879 about me too, more so than it was an actual interview. But we'll 22 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.360 place some audio from that. And regardless of how you feel about Kevin Spacey 23 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:13.800 or Chris Cuomo for that matter, there's some real discussion points in what was 24 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:19.240 said. And if you've been watching entertainment television, you probably have seen the 25 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:27.840 video by now of Diddy allegedly Diddy kicking, punching, pummeling, and dragging 26 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:36.159 singer Slash supposed girlfriend Cassie Ventura in a Los Angeles hotel lobby excuse me, 27 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:44.039 elevator opening, and it's been on Loop on CNN and other stations and channels 28 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.319 as well. I'm not saying I told you so, but I'm saying that 29 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:53.520 we told you so. We told you who Diddy was a long time ago. 30 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:57.199 We told you that there was going to be a reckoning for the me 31 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:00.439 too in a me too sense, regardless in the music industry. We told 32 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:06.400 you that the rest of the world is now catching up. The evidence is 33 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:09.400 now catching up to what we have been telling you. And if you listen 34 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:15.520 to talk radio justin just with respect to news and talk, this show is 35 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:23.120 the only show that you will hear firsthand accounts of having to deal with Didty, 36 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:29.879 having some first hand vantage points of who didd he is as an executive, 37 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:34.199 who he is as a dude, and how he treats people. This 38 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.680 is the only show we told you months ago and will remind you again tonight 39 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:44.319 in lou I should say, in light of that video which is making its 40 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.439 rounds around the world right now, people are shocked, not me. That 41 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.240 just validated and verified what I'd already been trying to tell you for the past 42 00:03:53.240 --> 00:04:00.319 few weeks. I told you specifically about an assault at Interscope Records that I 43 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.159 was there for when he and his bodyguards assaulted Steve Stout. He was reported 44 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.960 in La Times, but I guess it didn't resonate because there was no video. 45 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.919 Now it resonates because there's video. Well, we'll talk about that later 46 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:16.839 as well. Oh and by the way, Diddy's alleged drug mule accept the 47 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:21.879 plea deal no jail time. You have to imagine that if there's no jail 48 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:27.519 time for that plea deal, he traded up. He had a pretty good 49 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.319 profer. He flipped, as they say, on somebody. They got you 50 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:35.519 with the drugs, they got you trying to transport it. No jail time. 51 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:40.079 That means you flipped on someone. We'll talk about that and Friday Nights 52 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:43.560 with Nautica de la Cruz. Bakshi's back in town. We got the RNA 53 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.600 report. Good evening, Mark Ronner, what are we talking about tonight? 54 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:50.199 Tonight we're talking about The Strangers, Chapter one. I couldn't get to Walla 55 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:54.000 to go to it with me. Would you believe that I wouldn't go to 56 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:58.160 the corner with you? That's not very nice, It's true. Let's show 57 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.759 a little decorum on Friday. What about We had the quorum all week. 58 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:05.600 We talked about the school protests, we talked about the Metro in a serious 59 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:12.560 way the whole damn week. I'm done with the korum. I'm tired of 60 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.319 it. Not enough. What's just gonna look like I'm tired of dignity. 61 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:19.680 I'm tired of all that's fortunate for assault. I'm tired of decency. I 62 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:25.439 need some indecency now, I need some undignified behavior. Well, let's just 63 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.519 see what that looks like for the next two Careful what you ask for. 64 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.319 Yeah, okay, but that's the run report, and we are going to 65 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:35.319 be giving away tickets. I'll take this. We're giving away tickets today tonight, 66 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:45.720 a Disney four pack, one park ticket giveaway tonight. And I'll tell 67 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.319 you this, it's not this segment, so you have to keep listening. 68 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:51.519 Tall. How you doing, brother, No, I'm good now, okay, 69 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.079 Yeah, you have some trouble getting here. Yeah, it's a little, 70 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:57.639 just a little, I'm a little rough out. There a lot of 71 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.560 things that had to do at at the end of the day, which I 72 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.360 said to myself, I wish I would have known this stuff in advance. 73 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.079 Oh, they dropped stuff on your desk at four thirty on a Friday. 74 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.040 Hey, we need this like right now, yes, you know. And 75 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.720 then the kids all over the place is just you know, l A on 76 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.639 the and the south Land on a Friday night, and you've got multiple places 77 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:20.360 to be and a lot of traveling has to be done on freeway. It's 78 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:25.319 like, blank my life. Man, did you have to pop your trunk? 79 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.800 No? No, no, no need, don't need to pop my 80 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:33.560 trunk. And really and truly I had I know someone who recently had had 81 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.879 a heart attack, not not not serious, not serious, you know. 82 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:41.480 But he's right, they're all serious, but there's no by by definition I 83 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.560 mean not fatal. I'm sorry, not that's not serious, not fatal. 84 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.720 And he was talking about, you know, his change in life of what 85 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:53.800 he was doing in one thing that he was doing in life was practicing peace 86 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.120 first, you know, because he felt like, you know, because he's 87 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:57.399 in shape, you know, and he's like, you know, this is 88 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:01.800 this is a stress related heart attack, you know. And and I saw 89 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.240 that post, I'm like, man, I think I said something to the 90 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:08.600 extent like, you know, I'm glad that we are reading your first hand 91 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:13.560 account versus reading about you passing. And I thought to myself, like, 92 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:17.600 dude, it is more important to make it home at the end of the 93 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:26.480 day than to go to wallow on somebody, because anymore anymore. And I 94 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.839 and I've tried, you know, I'm I'm practicing in this new path. 95 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:34.879 I'm not all the way there. I'm not taking care of kung fu yet. 96 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.439 You know, I'm not ready to snatch the pebble out of Mark's hand, 97 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.759 but I am trying. I am practicing piece as much as I possibly 98 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.920 can. Just please don't blank with me. Just leave me the blank alone. 99 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.560 But that's all good. But if someone tells you to blank off, 100 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:55.920 than what I'm going to give them a double mark with both hands. Well 101 00:07:55.920 --> 00:08:00.519 that's a nice passing the baton to Mark. Mark. Have you flipped off 102 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.920 anyone on the freeway this week? Not today specifically? I think I got 103 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:09.120 flipped off earlier in the week because somebody was trying to do that thing where 104 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.199 they where they're in the merge lane and they try and speed up around you. 105 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.680 Oh yes, I hate that, ye and I wouldn't have any of 106 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:20.000 that. And the guy, whether it was Robin or whoever it was, 107 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.319 it was meant for her. They did not appreciate it. And and they 108 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.839 found a way to convey that with at least one finger, just one, 109 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.840 at least one on one of their hands. Well possibly Robert Is on the 110 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.240 motorcycle says you can't do both hands, So there you go. She could. 111 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.559 It's probably just unsafe. Motorcycles never have any problem because they go between 112 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:46.840 the cars or as I call them, organ donors on the motorcycle Robin, 113 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.879 I'm gonna have to have a conversation with you, too bad. We have 114 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:50.960 to go to a break right now, but we have to have a conversation 115 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.720 about lane splitting. Oh, that's what that's called, right, lane splitting? 116 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.879 All right, and you're going to be representing every motorcycle rider in the 117 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.679 state of California. Just want to let you know in advance. You good 118 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.440 with that, You're not good at that. It's radio, so you're gonna 119 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:11.279 have to use your voice. She seems thrilled, and we're off. It's 120 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.159 later with Mo Kelly k IF. I am six forty live everywhere on the 121 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:26.080 iHeartRadio app. Kelly, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's get 122 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:33.240 into this latest incident. I guess you can say, which is somewhat connected 123 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.200 to Metro. I say somewhat connected because I want to be fair. I've 124 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:43.799 been very critical of Metro. I've criticized them extensively. I've criticized leadership, 125 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:50.720 I've criticized LA's supervisors. LA County supervisors regarding how they've approached Metro. But 126 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.679 I want to be sure that if I were to blame something on Metro or 127 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:01.240 connected to Metro, that is factually accurate. And here's why this Metro writer 128 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:07.320 who was shot yesterday and subsequently died. The shooting was around five pm. 129 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.240 There are a lot of missing details here, and let me just read to 130 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:16.840 you from KTLA dot com and hopefully you'll see what I mean. The suspect 131 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:22.799 is in custody after what is turned by KTLA yet another deadly incident on a 132 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.080 Metro transit bus, this time in Commerce. Deputies with the La County Sheriff's 133 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:33.000 Department responded to Slawson and Boxford Avenues just before five pm yesterday on reports of 134 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:39.399 a person suffering a gunshot wound. This is from the story. Details are 135 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:48.639 extremely limited and it's unclear how the fatal shooting unfolded, but authorities say the 136 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.159 victim was shot while aboard the bus. Let me stop right there. The 137 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:58.559 victim being on the bus doesn't tell me whether the shooter was also on the 138 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:05.320 bus. There's nothing saying that the bus was connected to how this unfolded or 139 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:11.399 why it unfolded. If it were someone just walking down the street and noticed 140 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.639 someone on the bus and started shooting at that person, be a gang related 141 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:22.559 or somehow personal in nature, I'm reticent to blame Metro for something that then 142 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.120 wouldn't have had anything to do with Metro. If they're both on the bus, 143 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:31.639 that to me is different. But if it were a crime of opportunity 144 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.960 because they saw the person and the person happened to be on the bus, 145 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.960 and the person could have been in the car or could have been walking down 146 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.759 the street, in my mind, it's all the same thing. But since 147 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:48.960 the details, even according to KTLA, are extremely limited, I'm loth to 148 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:56.480 just assume that this was a failure of safety and security on a Metro bus, 149 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.759 or the Metro bus was more inherently dangerous for that rider. And I 150 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.000 know that's of no consolation to the people who were also riding on the bus 151 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.879 who may have had to dodge a bullet. But in my mind, I 152 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.679 compartmentalize these things, and I think that there's a difference between a random crime 153 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:20.639 and something like which is more conducive to crime. If you're talking about on 154 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:26.559 a subway train, that's different. If you're talking about something which happened on 155 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:30.360 the bus. To me, that's different. But this until they at least 156 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:35.360 confirm who the shooter was, where the shooter was. Was it somehow connected 157 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.480 to them both being on the bus. I don't know if that's the same 158 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.559 thing. That's why I was slow on the uptick, as I say, 159 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.759 as far as talking about it. But yes, the shooting did come just 160 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:54.279 hours after board members of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transit Transportation Authority held that 161 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.600 press conference yesterday morning. We played some audio from it, and yes, 162 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.399 they were discussing the seing this high profile crimes, the ration of them which 163 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.120 have been happening on Metro buses and trains, and they've announced plans to increase 164 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:13.720 law enforcement presence throughout the system. For example, if there was a law 165 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.320 enforcement member on the bus, I don't know if that changes anything. If 166 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:22.399 the person was shooting from outside the bus, I would like more details before 167 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:28.440 I go all the way in on Metro. But this does speak to crime 168 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:37.279 more generally in Los Angeles. This does speak to the lack of safety in 169 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:43.000 Los Angeles. If people are just shooting in broad daylight and it was five 170 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:50.039 PM, and if it's happening anywhere and indiscriminately in Los Angeles, then absolutely, 171 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:58.320 that's part of the larger crime conversation where violent crime statistically may be up 172 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.000 or maybe down. I don't know what the latest talking point is, but 173 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:09.759 either way, if they're shooting in broad daylight indiscriminately on to buses where you 174 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:15.240 and I may be just because we're going about our day, that is very, 175 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.919 very troublesome. That is somewhat different than what we've experienced before. That 176 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.759 is different from the other types of crime we've had before. And it may 177 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:28.279 not be connected directly to Metro or because of the failings of the security of 178 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.440 Metro, but it is definitely connected to the larger discussion of crime, which 179 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:41.399 is making you and me feel considerably less safe than before. Does it change 180 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.360 whether people are going to ride Metro? Well, if you've been listening to 181 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.159 the reporting of Blake Trolley, he's done a wonderful job trying to get people 182 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.559 who are riders, trying to get people who take the Metro in a bus 183 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.480 capacity or a train capacity. He's been getting to them every single day to 184 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:01.879 get their sentiments, and it's clear people are noticing the crime. People are 185 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.399 hearing about the crime, and people are concerned about the crime. They don't 186 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.480 care about the minutia, they don't care about the specific details. They just 187 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.799 know that there is a correlation between the amount of crime going on in the 188 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:22.240 city and mass public transit. And most people who have to ride Metro have 189 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.879 to ride Metro. They're not choosing to ride it. They're not saying, 190 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.120 well, you know what, I might save a little time and money today, 191 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.639 I think I'll ride the Metro and not use my car. No, 192 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.799 they are riding it because they have to. And I was having this conversation 193 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.559 with Tim Conwock Junior before we got in the air, and I don't like 194 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.159 it. I've heard it from a number of elected officials. I've heard it 195 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.559 from just people in the community as a matter of fact, saying that, 196 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.759 well, look at ridership. It is up almost a million people write it 197 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.919 each day. Well, just because a lot of people ride it, that 198 00:15:54.080 --> 00:16:00.799 is not an endorsement of it. That doesn't mean necessarily that it's more safe 199 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.279 or safe enough. It just means that a lot of people are riding it, 200 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:10.240 or they're riding it in spite of the danger. They're riding it. 201 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.559 Acknowledging the danger. They're riding it completely understanding that it's not as safe as 202 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:21.240 it should be. Don't think that because people are riding it that they also 203 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:25.120 have the choice to not ride it. If someone needs to go to work 204 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.480 today, I'm going to use Robin just an example. Let's say she didn't 205 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:32.879 have her motorcycle and she needed to get to work at a certain time because 206 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:36.000 the show's going to start at a certain time. And then we work in 207 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:40.720 a job and a profession where you can't make excuses, and if getting on 208 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.000 the Metro, I suspect I've never asked her this, I'm putting on the 209 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.120 spot. I suspect she probably would get on Metro because she needs to keep 210 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:53.559 her job, not because she feels it's safe enough. Is that fair, 211 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:59.240 Robin? Yeah, I've actually even taken it before, several times. You've 212 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.519 taken it. Okay, but it's not your preference, right, Okay, 213 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.799 But all right, you at least have the choice. But if you didn't 214 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.119 have the choice, you're not necessarily gonna have this internal conversation about well, 215 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.720 I don't know how safe it's gonna be. I don't know if it's safe 216 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.319 enough for me to write now you have to get to work in four hours 217 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:23.240 or lose your job. I've been in that situation before. I know what 218 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.480 that's like. There was a time I was writing it because I had the 219 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.720 choice too. And there are other times I was writing because my car was 220 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.440 in the shop for an extended period of time so I did not have the 221 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.559 choice. Or there was a time where my wife needed to use my car 222 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:41.480 because hers was in the shop. What am I gonna do. I'm not 223 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.200 gonna go to work. I'm gonna take uber to work. No, I'm 224 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.279 gonna get on public transit and get my ass to my job, even though 225 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.200 it may not be as safe as other people would like us to believe. 226 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.039 It's Later with Moe Kelly. I wanna talk about Kevin Spacey and how he's 227 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:03.440 trying to uncancel himself given that he wasn't actually canceled. He's looking for a 228 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.160 job and he'll probably get one. We'll tell you about that next. KFI 229 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:11.640 AM sinx forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app you're listening to Later with Moe 230 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:17.240 Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. I have a problem with folks 231 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:22.839 who don't understand what our criminal justice system is and what it's designed to do. 232 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:30.440 Someone can be found not guilty and not actually be innocent. It's not 233 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:38.440 a declaration of innocence. It means, in large part that the prosecution either 234 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:47.960 did not meet its burden of proof or there was insufficient evidence and left room 235 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.759 for reasonable doubt. That's all. And every time I read someone is proclaimed 236 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.680 innocent, I said, Okay, you have no idea what you're talking about. 237 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:02.640 You have absolutely no idea. Someone can be not guilty in a court 238 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.839 of law. It is not a proclamation of innocence. The reason I'm saying 239 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:12.480 this is because I try to look at all verdicts within that same place. 240 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:18.119 I don't care if it's OJ Simpson. I don't care if it's Kevin Spacey. 241 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.960 OJ Simpson was found not guilty. Kevin Spacey was found not guilty. 242 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:27.079 Well what about no, they're both found not guilty. It doesn't mean you 243 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.119 have to believe the verdicts. It doesn't even mean that you have to accept 244 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.599 the verdicts. The verdicts are for a court of law, They are not 245 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.039 for the court of public opinion. You can think what you want about OJ. 246 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.400 You can think what you want about George Zimmerman. You can think what 247 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.400 you want about Kevin Spacey. They were all found not guilty. It doesn't 248 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:51.680 mean any of them were actually innocent. But Kevin Spacey was accused by multiple 249 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:56.480 people, and I know he had at least two acquittals. There were some 250 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.759 strange circumstances around the death of of one or two of his accusers, and 251 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:07.880 one of his accusers dropped a civil lawsuit, I would say, strangely suddenly. 252 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:12.720 So it's not clean, but it does fall on the side of Kevin 253 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:18.279 Spacey. Kevin Spacey I enjoyed as an actor, never met him. I 254 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:23.039 don't know anything about him personally to say I feel one way or the other. 255 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:27.720 I've had interactions with Diddy, I feel more strongly to talk about him 256 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:33.000 as a person instead of Kevin Spacey. But Kevin Spacey is back in the 257 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.119 public eye. He had his first interview last night. He gave it to 258 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.359 Chris Cuomo, who's now an anchor on News Nation, and I just wanted 259 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:47.599 to play some of the audio from that conversation. It was a weird conversation 260 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:52.720 because we know that Chris Cuomo is not a neutral arbiter. In that conversation. 261 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.480 He's had his own issues with the Me Too movement. He's been accused 262 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:02.759 of X Y and Z and other forms of questionable behavior towards women. So 263 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:07.519 he's not interviewing Kevin Spacey from a distance. He has a feeling about of 264 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.839 the subject as well, and he makes it known. He's you know, 265 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:14.119 he full disclosure. He makes it no but here are some of the things 266 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:18.119 that Kevin Spacey had to say, and I just wanted to make sure you 267 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.839 heard us. You know where eyeingm coming from. Who do you blame? 268 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:30.279 Well, I think fear. I think that fear is what drives a lot 269 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.599 of people to make decisions that they make, and I think that you know, 270 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:37.359 look, I've been very fortunate to have all the people who have stepped 271 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.000 up, and I know there's going to be more coming soon. But there 272 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:47.160 are also people that I've spoken to who are They love me, they believe 273 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:52.799 in me, they've stood with me in private personally all the time, but 274 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.240 they're afraid to stand up. And I've been very fortunate that people have been 275 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.680 honest with me about that. And I think that's a shame that we've come 276 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:07.559 to a place as a society where people are afraid to say what they believe 277 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.920 in, what they feel, because they're afraid they're going to get canceled to 278 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:18.920 what has been the hardest part in all this emotionally, And he pauses, 279 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:33.680 I suppose losing as much as I lost, And I think also that what 280 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:38.839 happened with my family, and I have to say, you know, frankly, 281 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.759 I'm not I'm not putting on a pity party. Yes you are. 282 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:48.559 There are things that have upset me about decisions that people have made. But 283 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.720 the worst of it was the other day when my brother sold pictures of my 284 00:22:53.880 --> 00:23:00.039 mother in her last dying days, when she was suffering from a very aggressive 285 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.680 brain tumor, and he took photos that he promised would only be for him. 286 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:10.519 Okay, he's rambling at that point, but you see he Kevin Spacey 287 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:15.799 clearly views himself as the victim in all of this. There's more can you 288 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.720 handle? If they won't let you back in. I will simply say this, 289 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:26.119 I don't think that an executive, no matter how powerful, at any 290 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:32.720 company, should speak for the entire American public or the entire British public. 291 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:37.119 What I think the public who stopped me all the time. Chris I mean, 292 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:40.480 I travel all over the world, and I know there's people out there 293 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:44.160 on the Internet that apparently don't like me and have some nasty things to say 294 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:48.359 about me. But I have never met one of those people in real life. 295 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:53.720 Everyone who stops me every single day is every single generous and celebrity to 296 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:57.559 see me. And if there's a theme to any of our conversations, it's 297 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:03.200 when are you getting back to work? That's celebrity. You know, fans 298 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.799 walk up to celebrities and talk to them. It's important that you take him 299 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.599 at face value for every word that he says. I was looking this up. 300 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.920 I finally found a quote from somebody I can't say I'm a personal friend, 301 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.480 but it's an editor at a Variety, former Variety editor who I've followed 302 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.160 for years. He said, I covered entertainment for forty years, and Kevin 303 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:26.200 Spacey was by far the biggest bully I ever met. No, young people 304 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:29.640 do not want to be around him. Despite what Sharon Stone thinks, what 305 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:36.000 he's encountering is consequences for his behavior with tons and tons of different people, 306 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:45.880 and his behavior includes not illegal but reprehensible behavior, treatment of castmates, treatment 307 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:53.920 of subordinates, questionable. How should I say this, LECHERI yeah, putting 308 00:24:53.920 --> 00:25:00.240 his hands in places where he shouldn't know. Okay, it's more than what 309 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:07.400 he was criminally accused of. But my overwriting point is he will be back. 310 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:11.480 They are paving the way for it. This publicity tour is the next 311 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:17.079 step in that. But here is what I found really really interesting, my 312 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:22.359 word, the view of the Me too movement from two guys who were accused 313 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.920 by the Me Too movement. The basic contention is, now, it's just 314 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:32.519 too much. Too much dirt came out and at a certain point you just 315 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.200 have to go, what do you do with that notion? We live in 316 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:42.000 a country that embraces and believes in due process and believes in the rule of 317 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:48.960 law and fairness, and I think that we have to be cautious and look 318 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:55.440 back and say, look, there was some tremendously important and valuable things and 319 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.480 an impact happened with the Me Too movement, that it was time and it 320 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:03.880 was right. And however, as these sort of pendulums swing from one side 321 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.519 to the other, as you well know, I think it swung very very 322 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:12.960 far in the direction of unfairness and not allowing people. And I'm not just 323 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.920 talking about myself, but a whole lot of people. I mean, I 324 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:18.799 know you had your own issues, and I'm glad to see that you've been 325 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.279 offered a path back. But we have to also be careful to make sure 326 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:29.440 that the pendulum now doesn't swing so far in the other direction, even though 327 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.279 I and a lot of other people believe it's moving in the right direction, 328 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:36.880 because we have to be conscious that the metio movement was an important one and 329 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:41.559 a valued one. Being found not guilty does not mean you are innocent. 330 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:49.640 And also being found not guilty does not mean there wasn't legal a legal predicate 331 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:56.440 in which you were charged in the first place. Kevin Spacey had his day 332 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.039 in court, due process. He was found not guilty, but it he 333 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.519 either says that he is innocent, nor does it mean that he's a victim. 334 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.680 He is a whiner. However, that was like listening to Bill Maher 335 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.000 and Barry Weiss talk about cancel culture. I mean, give me a break. 336 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.599 He's not canceled. He's been put in time out. He'll be back. 337 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:21.279 He'll be doing movies before the end of the calendar year. I predict 338 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.440 it's later. With mokel we're gonna talk about Diddy his ass. I wouldn't 339 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:29.920 call it canceled. His ass is going to jail. It's a different We're 340 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.359 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on 341 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:41.960 demand from KFI AM sixty six forty is Later with Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on 342 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:48.079 the iHeartRadio app. If you haven't seen the video by now, you need 343 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:56.759 to see it. Diddy was allegedly if you haven't seen a video shown at 344 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:03.839 the Intercontinental Hotel, which was in Century City, kicking, pummeling and dragging 345 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.680 by her hoodie the top of her hoodie Cassie Ventura in the hotel in front 346 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:17.960 of the elevator public for better description. This was alleged in her lawsuit. 347 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.680 Specifically, she also alleged that this video did not come out prior to now 348 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:30.440 because she said that Diddy paid fifty thousand dollars for the hotel to bury it. 349 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.000 I guess they didn't bury it deep enough, or whoever he paid the 350 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:38.240 fifty thousand and two realized it was worth more now and sold it to a 351 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:44.480 media outlet. I think CNN got it first. But the video validates not 352 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.000 only what Cassie has said, but what I have said, relative to my 353 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:56.119 limited interactions with Diddy, I've seen him and his bodyguards perpetrate violence. I've 354 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:03.160 seen that. So this video was only for the confirmation of that. His 355 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.640 reputation within the business preceded him. People always thought about Suge Knight was the 356 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:14.599 heavy handed one. Yeah he was, but Diddy was also. But that's 357 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.799 just well, we have these discussions, we talk about the music business, 358 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.599 and Twalla Sharpe was the one who hit it on the head and on the 359 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.160 past Mike to him, but he said that there's a me too reckoning And 360 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.319 I said this on the tail end of the Kevin Spacey conversation, there was 361 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:32.640 a me two reckoning coming specifically for the music industry. Somehow they slipped through 362 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.319 when all the original me too stuff was happening. Now it's time for them 363 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.200 and all of this is just validating what we were saying. Twila, I 364 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:45.759 thought, it absolutely does. And if it's not Diddy in this video allegedly, 365 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.759 then AI is doing this thing. Because I've watched this video several times 366 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:55.200 and it is very clear, very clear who is in the video and what 367 00:29:55.240 --> 00:30:00.000 they are doing. This is for everyone who has reached out to you are 368 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.720 and who said you're making too much out of a lot of people. Are 369 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.519 you are trying to drag a black man down. I've heard all the things. 370 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.000 I've heard the but what about but what about it's always but what about 371 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:15.160 without about right? Like like that has anything to do with or excuses the 372 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:22.279 accusations against this man. This is this isn't even really about just Diddy. 373 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.799 This is the thing. When we say that all of this is going to 374 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.599 come out in the music industry, he's just one promise. You been in 375 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.759 the in the music industry for a long time and saw a lot of things 376 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.480 happen, and if and if just a third of that comes out, the 377 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.880 music industry will be just torn asunder names. You know a lot that I 378 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:48.960 can't even comment on because the associated evidence hasn't come out yet. There is 379 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:55.599 a popular podcast, DJ I Think he goes by DJ Academics, very controversial, 380 00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.839 always in always in urban news, uh for some in flammatory thing he 381 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:07.039 has said right now he is facing rape charges and he's saying they're not true. 382 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.640 But he's recently come out to say, if if I go down, 383 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:17.680 I am not going down alone. I am bringing down this entire industry because 384 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.519 i have all the receipts of all of the things that you've been hearing about. 385 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.039 I've got the facts, the proof to show who has done what, 386 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.359 and I'm taking everyone down with me. Well, speaking of taking everyone down 387 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:34.480 with him, the alleged drug mule of Sewn P. Diddy Comb's Brendan Paul 388 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:40.319 is going to avoid jail time because he's accepted a plea deal. That means 389 00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.680 he's given a profer that he's offered up some other name, And if he's 390 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:48.640 supposedly the drug mule for Sean P. Diddy Combs, then it's probably him. 391 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.039 It's not that far of e leap. But before we go to the 392 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.759 break, joining Uson's studio is Natica de la Cruz. She was coming up 393 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.640 next anyhow with Friday Night Friday Nights with Nataka. But you, Natica, 394 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.000 have worked in radio for out of now twenty five thirty years. Yes, 395 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:06.880 okay, you have met and talked to and interviewed every person that we have 396 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:12.359 discussed on this show, every single one, including Diddy. Your thoughts. 397 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.599 You know, I will say that I've interviewed him twice. I've never had 398 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:21.200 a bad experience, but I always have that cringe moment. I did take 399 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.400 a picture one with him once at this event, and I think it's on 400 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.680 my Instagram at Nautica de la Cruz and the only thing he said to me 401 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:29.720 was he looked at me and he was like, you're very pretty, and 402 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.160 I said thank you. He goes, you know, if Mariah Carey ever 403 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:37.079 does a like a movie about herself, you could play her. And I 404 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.000 was like, yeah, huh, okay, what does that have to do 405 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.319 with me? Was this before or after? He was dating j Lo? 406 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:49.079 Before before? And I said okay, but you know, he the second 407 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.000 time I interviewed him, he came into the studio, but he had this 408 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.519 he had this arrogance about him, and he was a little kind of antsy 409 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.279 in the studio, like, you know, kind of like, oh, 410 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.359 when are we over with this? And when is this interview over? And 411 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.880 I remember saying to him, you know, you said you were going to 412 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.359 give me thirty minutes, and he was like, yeah, I said I 413 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.079 was going to give you thirty minutes and we were already like a maybe twenty 414 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.480 and I said, I'm going to go to commercial break and come back because 415 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.440 that's what we do. And he was like, well, can we can 416 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.720 we speed this up any faster? I said, well, I can't talk 417 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.359 faster than than when I normally talk. And he was like, okay, 418 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.799 well yeah, okay, Well I'll just give you the next ten minutes. 419 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.720 I said, okay, fine, And I actually never never interviewed him after 420 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.319 that, and I didn't have I didn't have the uh, the the want 421 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.319 to do it again. And but I will say that throughout the years, 422 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:42.000 I did go to some of his parties, not the after parties. Yeah, 423 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.319 the pre party, the pre parties, the white parties, a lot 424 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.839 of white part white partyties. Okay, so you and I know about that, 425 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.359 but I've never was at the after party. But it was I don't 426 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.799 know, you know, I just you hear so many stories about an individual, 427 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.880 and then you know they always say that when you hear the story so 428 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.960 many times, it really becomes a myth. But it really is actuality. 429 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.280 It's true. True. People don't understand. Yes, we just have now 430 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:17.719 video to confirm either what we've seen, experienced or known. Now video videos 431 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.480 eight years old. Think about all that. Put this one real quickly before 432 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.719 we go to break. If that was done on video in public view in 433 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.079 a hotel. What do you think was happening in the hotel room? What 434 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.280 do you think was that? How many other times was Cassie Ventura beaten? 435 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.360 Five, ten, twenty many? 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