1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,319 And it hits me, Oh my gosh, this is at triangle. You 2 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:06,799 know, there's explanation for everything that occurred in the randallsham Pars incident. It 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,080 doesn't involve aliens at all. It was completely silent. It comes right over 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:18,480 our heads classics also really standing into clearing. He turned over to my father 5 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:20,760 and held his hand, and he looked in his eyes and said, we're 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:29,679 not alone. Welcome to podcast UFO for our live show. We're live every 7 00:00:29,719 --> 00:00:34,920 Wednesday at eight pm Eastern Standard Time on the Dark Matter Radio Network. Please 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,719 remember to visit the website podcast ufo dot com for past episodes, blogs, 9 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:44,920 and forums. During the show, feel free to participate live in our chat 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,280 room, and don't forget to like us on our very active Facebook page. 11 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:53,799 Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willis your host, and 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,520 we're here on the Dark Matter Digital Network. Our show last for a couple 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,520 of hours, and I want to thank everyone that supports the show. You 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,000 can listen to the whole show for dollar a month or more, or you 15 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:11,599 can listen to the whole show live, or you can listen to the first 16 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:17,120 hour as a podcast for free. And I want to thank supporters out there. 17 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:19,799 A couple of people I want to shout out to. One is l 18 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,319 O L Infected. I'm sorry, that's the only name I have for him. 19 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,159 And another guy gave me his full name to use. That's Greg Gayleen. 20 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:32,000 I want to thank him. Peter N thank you. And there's many 21 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,159 many more. We have T shirts that are being while the graphics are being 22 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,840 made down in New York City, and hopefully they'll be done soon and new 23 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:45,359 T shirts will come out. Everyone more or less did not like the old 24 00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:49,799 ones, so I'll be giving those away as we go along. And tonight's 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,560 guest, I forgot to mention we have Alhan Rojas coming right up with the 26 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,200 news in just a minute. But tonight's guest is Nick Redfern. We're going 27 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,879 to talk about all different types of subjects. First of all, he's got 28 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:07,719 a book. They are h negative factor in blood that has talked about in 29 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,080 so many experiencers cases and is very interesting. There's really a connection there. 30 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,879 So his new book is called Bloodline of the Gods, Unravel the mystery and 31 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:21,439 the human blood type to reveal the aliens among us. Now, Nick, 32 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,879 as you know most people out there knows a very prolific writer. He has 33 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,319 three books out. Now we're gonna be talking. We're gonna touch on a 34 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,039 couple of them. In the second hour. We're going to be talking about 35 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,719 his book Men in Black. I think that's interesting, in a couple of 36 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,319 other books he's done, and so that'll be coming up on a little bit. 37 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,960 And now we have Alo Hondro Rojas with the news. How are you 38 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:46,879 Alahndro, I'm doing good. How are you doing good? We're under the 39 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,919 weather, You're doing better? So yeah, and I had bad tummy, 40 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:54,960 but I have better tummy, completely healed tummy, but better. Good. 41 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,479 Good. You reminded me of some exciting news that is at Nick Redfern's going 42 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,400 to be speaking at the next UFO Congress. All right, I get to 43 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,159 meet him. Good. Yeah, So last week I posted at least half 44 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,120 of around half of our speakers that will be there, an exciting list, 45 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,680 and Nick Redfern is among them. So I'm really excited about that. Yeah, 46 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,919 he's great, Yeah, pretty cool, pretty cool. Lots of really 47 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,400 interesting stuff and other news. You know, last week I touched on that 48 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Puerto Rico thing, and I don't want to bring talk about it too much 49 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:38,120 here because we already did, but I did wanted to add this interesting development, 50 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:44,080 which is that we have heard from a couple of experts who work on 51 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:49,599 those systems, are very familiar with those thermal imaging systems. In one case, 52 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:53,199 a gentleman I have been going back and forth with worked on these things 53 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:59,159 for thousands of hours. He's like a very high level maintenance person with them, 54 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,319 as high level as you can get. And he agrees with the analysis. 55 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:11,639 He says that what is seen in this Puerto Rican Ufo Flear image is 56 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,279 not a balloon, and it's nothing he's ever seen before. And his argument 57 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,600 for it not being a balloon especially is that it's too hot. That you 58 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,959 know, it's very dark in the image, which means it's a hot object 59 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:29,079 and it's way too hot, especially if you compare it to the heat signatures 60 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:32,920 that you can see of the vehicles and planes that you can see in the 61 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,319 background of this thing. That it's way too hot to be a balloon. 62 00:04:36,399 --> 00:04:43,079 So he doesn't think it could be that. And yeah, so he agrees 63 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,319 with the analysis, and he says it's it's one of the strangest things he's 64 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:50,079 ever seen. He and his people around the office have been passing around and 65 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,399 they're all pretty taken aback by it. So yeah, some pretty positive stuff 66 00:04:55,439 --> 00:05:00,000 regarding that. Really interesting, and you have your show this week is an 67 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,519 interview with the people that have been researching this as well. Yeah, normally 68 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,120 that would have gone up on Monday, but I was sick the last couple 69 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,959 of days in bed, rolling around in bed with fever and yuckiness. But 70 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:19,839 that is going up. That's gone up today, So yeah, I have 71 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,000 an interview with the two of the researchers, Robert Powell and Morgan Bale, 72 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:30,160 and we talk more about this and they give a lot of interesting background that 73 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,800 people don't know yet, which is a large part of all of this that 74 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,000 I think people are going to find terribly interesting. Great, great, So 75 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:42,759 what else is happening? What else is happening? Well, this is kind 76 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,480 of a funny story, and I got lucky, and as I will sometimes 77 00:05:47,879 --> 00:05:51,319 when I'm looking for stories, this is a story written by Roger Marsh, 78 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:57,040 MUFON's director of communication, but he also writes for us, and it's a 79 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,800 story about bears. But what's funny about this has gotten the news Bears and 80 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,800 UFOs and I don't it just looks like the media decided to pick up on 81 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:12,639 the UFO thing because it's popular, and they said, study finds bears react 82 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,720 to UFOs overhead, so it really isn't bears reacting to UFOs, but it 83 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:24,879 is bears reacting to um drones. So they wanted to know how much of 84 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,959 a disturbance drones and things are the bears and if they would even notice, 85 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:32,439 because bears seem to not really pay attention to bugs and stuff like that. 86 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:38,600 Why bears though, I mean, there's there's thousands of different animals in the 87 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,199 forest. Why why why are they picking out bears to test us on. 88 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Maybe because they're big predators that really don't have a predator that you know that 89 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:56,040 they fear, just to see what they how they would react. But they 90 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:04,600 just noticed that they have a physiological response to UFOs. And of course the 91 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,759 drone to them would be UFO because they don't know what the hell that thing 92 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:13,319 is flying around above them. But a kind of a funny story, and 93 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,439 I say I got lucky with the picture because I found his picture and it's 94 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:21,639 a real picture from this guy in Canada who was taking pictures wildlife pictures and 95 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,519 a bear came up. So he ran into his car and the bear, 96 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,680 but he left his camera on the tripad with the zoom lens and everything, 97 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:35,399 and a bear came up to his camera and stood up and looked into his 98 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,759 camera. So it looks like this bears looking through this camera. It's a 99 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:45,480 really funny picture. It's a cool picture but interesting enough. You know, 100 00:07:45,519 --> 00:07:48,600 it's not two UFO related, but people just must love the fuzzy bears. 101 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:53,040 So actually that story did pretty well. Lots of people were looking at that 102 00:07:53,079 --> 00:08:00,600 because it's kind of fun, but more down to business, okay, UFO 103 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,920 businesses. Roger also wrote something about a moufon report that came in and this 104 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:13,600 is three triangular UFOs that were allegedly seen by a family in Alabama. So 105 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,800 this guy says it was about seven pm on August tenth when he was sitting 106 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 out in the backyard and he was looking up and he sees a passenger jet 107 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:30,639 he estimated to be twenty seven to thirty thousand feet high. But then out 108 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:37,320 of the periphual of his eyes, he said he saw another object flying behind 109 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,840 it that seemed to be following it. He looked more closely, and he 110 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,960 said it looked to be like a triangular object without wings. He was so 111 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,879 floored by this. He called his wife and had her come out to take 112 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:56,679 a look to and they were pretty shocked by the whole thing. They then 113 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,919 talked to their son and told him about it, and he said, well, 114 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,480 look towards my house in this direction because there's a couple more. And 115 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:09,440 they said they didn't. Sure enough, they saw two more. So they 116 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:18,480 say they saw three triangular shaped UFOs. Wow. So yeah, And this 117 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:24,799 one of the witnesses. His background is working. He's worked with the army 118 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:31,639 and the military. He's had top secret clearances before and has work done a 119 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:35,519 number of different top secret type of defense projects and things. So he's a 120 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:41,480 credible person. So it doesn't seem to be a hoax. And he feels 121 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:46,039 he saw, you know, three be triangular UFOs. Now, what is 122 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,720 your opinion on that? In the connection to military, do you think there's 123 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:58,039 possibly something out there the military has that they're I mean, I go back 124 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,679 and forth on it because I don't understand they fly in populated areas if they 125 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:07,759 are testing something, But I don't know. There's so many triangle UFO sightings 126 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,000 it seems well, that's the hard part. I think I think we do 127 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:16,759 and we don't. For instance, in the last couple of years, there 128 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:24,480 have been some photographs taken of triangular shaped aircraft that have contrails, and they 129 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:31,159 don't appear to be stealth bombers or anything that we know of, so they 130 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:35,399 appear to be tests testing of some sort of triangular shaped plane. Now these 131 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:41,799 have contrails, which is you know, indicative of more conventional sort of propulsion 132 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:48,480 systems. When it comes to the t R three B, I've felt that, 133 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,799 and you know David Marler, who is now I feel an authority on 134 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:56,960 triangular aircraft, he doesn't believe that exists. There's this legend of a t 135 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,399 t t R three B, you know, and take gravity triangular craft, 136 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,759 and and I've looked into this as well, and there is no evidence, 137 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,399 just rumors. There was a t R I think it was a t R 138 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,960 three A, which was a prototype. I don't even think they built it, 139 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,240 but it was a like stealth technology demonstrator type of thing. It was 140 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:22,799 a concept um sort of thing. But that's it. But nothing beyond that. 141 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:26,799 So we don't have any anything beyond that. Because of course the aurora 142 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:30,759 out there, there's a lot of people that feel the Aurora is real, 143 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,879 and there are references to something called the Aurora, which is some sort of 144 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:41,200 um next step you know craft, and then there are other you know, 145 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:46,279 Popular Mechanics has written a lot about other possible past the SR seventy one, 146 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,360 you know, super stealthy fast craft that can even break orbit that are you 147 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:58,799 know, triangular shapes. So there, I'm sure the military and the private 148 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:05,720 sector are working on um, you know, top secret triangular aircraft. But 149 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,840 there's still a genuine mystery here because you know, if you look at David 150 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,559 Marler's book, he has cases going back to the eighteen hundreds of triangular shaped 151 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,600 craft. So so yeah, it's really hard to say, yeah, there 152 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:26,000 was a triangle sighting right over my house recently, which are really yes, 153 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:33,840 I didn't see it, and I don't have the person's permission to talk about 154 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,039 it really, but she drew me a picture of it and said, what 155 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,600 do you suppose this could be? She said, the lights didn't blink at 156 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:43,159 all, they just stayed on and you know, as a perfect triangle with 157 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,159 five lights. So um, so I don't know, you know, I 158 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:52,360 mean, I started going out at night to see if I could see it. 159 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:56,519 Again or whatever you know. But h but anyway, all all interesting. 160 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:58,960 Well that's probably it, and uh, I'm glad you're feeling better, 161 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,600 and welcome back, and thanks so much for the news today. All right, 162 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,720 thank you man, thanks for having me on again, and we'll talk 163 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,080 to you soon, talking next week and I will actually be at the Expirators 164 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,480 speak coming up on actually next weekend, on the twenty eighth and twenty ninth, 165 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,879 and I'm going to play this little commercial and right after that will be 166 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,159 a music break and Nick Redfern will be coming right up. 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How many books do 182 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:20,679 you write a year, Nick, Well, I guess ether twelve month. 183 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,879 He probably about two and a half something like that, which is a lot. 184 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,000 And well, well, for anyone who's you know, just from what 185 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,879 I hear for people who have written books, they just say there's so much 186 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,000 involved. And I know you do a lot of research and that that must 187 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,080 be you know, take up a lot of the time. Well, to 188 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,639 be honest, yeah, I mean the research is probably the main part, 189 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,759 and then the writing when you've got all the information. The writing doesn't take 190 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:52,000 too long. I mean I tend to I like to sort of work regular 191 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:54,559 as I like to do eight to five Monday to Friday. You know, 192 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,200 I don't like working at night or weekends. And of course if you working 193 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,120 eight to five, one to friday, eight hours a day, forty hours 194 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,639 a week, you know you can you can get a lot done in that 195 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:10,039 period. And so if you've got four or five months to write the book, 196 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,600 or say four months and you've got the bulky research done, it actually 197 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:19,080 works out well. It's just got to kind of structure yourself and you just 198 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,720 got to get down to getting it done, you know. You know, 199 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,200 I have a I have a friend that's been self employed forever and he does 200 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,720 very very well at what he does. And it's just the discipline he does. 201 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,240 You know, he has this beautiful cottage on a lake with sandy shore, 202 00:16:34,279 --> 00:16:37,480 and he only goes there in the weekend. He he gets up every 203 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:41,960 morning, goes to work, makes a complete day by himself, working hard 204 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:45,279 all day long. That's all he does. I mean, I really can 205 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:49,080 gratulate anyone that has that type of discipline. It's really amazing. Yeah, 206 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,039 it's one of those things where you quickly get like a wake up call. 207 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,720 But if you don't do it, don't take long before you know, you 208 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,639 get backed up and behind on things and in the deadlines creep up on yourself. 209 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,400 You know, you really got to think about that and like any sort 210 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,119 of a self employee job project ahead as well. You know, I don't 211 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,319 want people to think it's just a job. You know, it's for me, 212 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,480 it's a passion as well. They even self if you write in and 213 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,440 you know you're with a publisher and they contractually give you a date to finish 214 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:26,599 it by, you've got to finish you by then whatever happens. And so 215 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,240 I was just going to ask you that if they actually give you a deadline 216 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,200 when to complete it. Now they there's some do they edit the book afterwards? 217 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,000 How does that like, once you give them a manuscript, you hand 218 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:44,279 it in, how long does it take before it actually hits the bookstand's that's 219 00:17:44,319 --> 00:17:48,559 a good question because it depends really on what books they might have coming round 220 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,000 out around about the same time. For example, some publishers are quite relaxed 221 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,920 and they just say, hey, you know, just get it to us 222 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,920 when you get it done, and they don't give you a cutoff time because 223 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,920 they might five or six other books they're working on. So in other words, 224 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,759 it's not like there's going to be a gap in their publications anyway. 225 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:11,240 Now, say, for example, you like with the Bloodline of the God's 226 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,039 Book, which is out now. I mean, if they were putting out 227 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:19,119 another sort of agent astronaut book next month, they might well have said to 228 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,160 me, you know, hold up until December, because they wouldn't want to 229 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:29,160 perhaps put out two books on the same subject pretty much within the same month. 230 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,000 They try and stagger them. So it depends on circumstances. What else 231 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:37,680 they're publishing, you know, how many more books they've got coming out of 232 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,960 that month. But I mean new page you know that they prefer to have 233 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:47,640 like a structured timeline of when you're going to submit it. But most publishers, 234 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,519 when you submit the word documents, the amount of editing that goes on 235 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,759 is really dependent on, you know, what you put into the original word 236 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,640 document. For the most part of the books I've done, it's just been 237 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,240 a case of you know, asking a few questions, what does this mean? 238 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:07,799 Can you elaborate a little bit more on that, what's the source of 239 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:12,119 this? If I've forgotten to add one particular reference to the bibliography? In 240 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,880 other words, it's nothing. It's not Rocket sciences, you know, it's 241 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:22,039 just the sort of things you would expect that they might want to sort of 242 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:25,799 have a question about or alter. But I mean, I've never sort of 243 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:30,119 been in a position of a large scale editing, you know, where it 244 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,680 comes back unrecognizable or anything like that at all. It's just literally words here, 245 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,359 and they're not even paragraphs or chapter as you know. Yeah, well 246 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,039 that's good. Well, so I do want to talk about Bloodline of the 247 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:45,079 Gods, and then you know, later on we can talk about some of 248 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:51,680 your other books. But for the and also in the hour two, i'd 249 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,799 like to talk about your book. I've always had a fascination with the Men 250 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:02,079 in Black, you know, I'd like to talk about that. So before 251 00:20:02,079 --> 00:20:07,799 we get started though on this particular book, just for the person that has 252 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:10,519 not heard you before. Most people have, but you know, just for 253 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:14,400 the person who hasn't, because since you've last been on the show, we 254 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,640 have a lot a lot of new listeners. So could you just give your 255 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:22,880 your background and what gets you fascinated in the topic. I know that you 256 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,599 know, cryptology. Crypto zoology is a big thing of yours. Yeah, 257 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:32,720 kind of ahead of UFOs if I remember as far as being a passion of 258 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,880 yours. That's what I remember from our podcast before. But go ahead if 259 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,200 you would get a back thing. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Well 260 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,480 what got me interest you? When I was a kid about about six my 261 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:47,799 parents still we do on a week's holiday to Scotland and we spend the day 262 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:52,400 at lot Nest and I've still got a few fragments of memories of my dad 263 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,680 telling me the story a lot Ness Monster and w you that kind of age, 264 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,599 I guess you think of things like a lot Mess Monster along lines of 265 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,000 you know, monsters under the bed or in the closet. You know, 266 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:06,759 it's just sort of creepy story. But then as I got to sort of 267 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,079 twelve thirteen, I picked up a few UFO books and being like John Key 268 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:17,200 or Brad Skiger that kind of thing, and got into it more then when 269 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,440 I left school in England. School leaving age in England is actually like sixteen 270 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:25,319 upward. You know, it's quite different to all. But he can leave 271 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,079 school at sixteen and just do what you want. And I actually wasn't that 272 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,960 good of a student. I was sort of pretty bad really, you know. 273 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,759 I was one of those ordered to sit around her and not the unfortunately. 274 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,599 But that's partly because I just I just wasn't a good student. I 275 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,799 was like a late starter, and so I suddenly went from being, you 276 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:47,640 know, a kid at school to in the big wide world. And I 277 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,480 was like, well, what are you going to do? And I just 278 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,759 didn't have an idea and actually looked around jobs that were being advertised in the 279 00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:03,440 town I was living in the time, and just through pure look, there's 280 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,839 a new company that had been established in the same town and they were looking 281 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,559 to set up a new magazine called Zero, which would be for sort of 282 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:15,519 teenagers and people in the twenties, and it would be fashion, Hollywood, 283 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:22,319 celebrity stuff, gossip, interviews with TV people in rock stars, that kind 284 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:25,079 of thing. And you know, it sounded cool. It didn't sound like 285 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:26,440 a real job. You know, it didn't sound like I've got to be 286 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,000 stuck in working in a bank all day in a old born, old suit 287 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,880 and having some guy telling me what to do, you know. And so 288 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,000 I took the interview and got the job, and they sort of trained me 289 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:45,960 upwards from you know the basics of how to interview people, structuring articles, 290 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:51,440 how to begin an article. Also in attracts the reader's attention and pretty much 291 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,720 everything I needed to know about getting into the writing business. And the job 292 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,279 lasted a couple of years, and then I did write in freelance for a 293 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,799 whiles. This was when Britain was going through a recession and at the time, 294 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,079 and you know, jobs are hard to come by, so I did 295 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,039 a bunch of other jobs for a few years, but always been writing you 296 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:14,960 on the background as well. And then when I was in my sort of 297 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:18,839 mid twenties, I thought, well, you know, now it's like a 298 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,680 now or never time, you know, sort of closer to thirty. It's 299 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,640 I think sometimes people feel it's too late to change things, and I didn't 300 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,440 want to be in that position. So I just took a chance and I 301 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:33,000 quit the job. And I was like, well, either you make it 302 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,440 or you don't, but I'm going to do the best to work full time 303 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,359 as a writer. I just sort of it was like being pushed in the 304 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,400 swimming pool of a deepen. You know, you either swim or your drown. 305 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,240 And so I sort of learned, you know, about the industry, 306 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,960 the best people to contact, but publishers, magazines, newspapers, and then 307 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,039 really sort of you know, you've got to learn to basically be aggressive and 308 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,160 pitch yourself and promote yourself and sell yourself. And you're the only way you 309 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:10,720 can really do that is by coming up with marketable new stories and things that 310 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,480 you know the magazines and the publishers are going to want to buy. So 311 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:18,119 that's not really got me involved. And that was like twenty years ago and 312 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:23,559 I've done it ever since. But I don't like a lot of freelance writers, 313 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,880 which is a very precarious job. You know. I think a lot 314 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,359 of people assume that if you write UFO books, even one, you know, 315 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,480 you're living in the Hollywood Hills and driving a Ferrari, which actually I 316 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:41,440 could assure you is not the case, but it is. I mean, 317 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,160 don't get me wrong. If you can do a job that you really enjoy, 318 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:49,200 that's a bonus freelance. Right. It is a precarious job and you 319 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,960 need your wits about you need to project ahead months and to stay on top 320 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,440 of things. But if you can do that and you enjoy it, you 321 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,160 know, you get the reward from from doing something that gives you satisfaction as 322 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,640 well. Yes, um no, I agree with a lot of that. 323 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,319 And you know, I heard of saying, you know, success is loving 324 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:15,640 what you have to do. And I really, um, you know, 325 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,559 I really promote anyone that is trying to get to do their you know, 326 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,839 trying to do their passion whatever it is. Um. And you know, 327 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,279 sometimes the money comes along, you know, and usually it does if you're 328 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,160 really really into That's that's how I feel anyway. Um. Yeah, I 329 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,000 mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, you know, I earned 330 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,920 a living from the subject, but I meant, I mean people might find 331 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,759 it interesting if they want to get into this field. That probably only about 332 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,960 thirty percent of my income, it does come from the book, right, 333 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:53,519 and the rest just comes from mainstream journalism, newspaper magazine work. And I 334 00:25:53,599 --> 00:26:00,400 also do editing improved reading services for other authors as well. But often on 335 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,160 you know, just subjects have nothing to do with the paranormal at all. 336 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,359 M And so you know, it's sort of a combinations. It's a job 337 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,640 in writing, but it's a combination of widely sort of varying different subjects. 338 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,279 Yeah. Yeah, I think there is I've talked about it in a number 339 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:22,119 of times on this show that there is a little bit of a misconception that 340 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,640 you know, people think just because you see someone like yourself. I've seen 341 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:33,799 you on many documentaries on on on the History Channel, and you know, 342 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:37,200 you're you're all over the screen. You're not exactly getting rich from that either. 343 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,680 Well now, I mean most TV shows, you know, they have 344 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,720 a set fee, which isn't a bad fee, but you know, you 345 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,000 may only do the show once a year, you know, that kind of 346 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,279 thing, and you do somebody else's show you and again, you know, 347 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:55,880 I mean, I enjoy doing them because sometimes you get to travels on locations, 348 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960 food shoots, places you've never been before. So it's sort of like 349 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:03,359 a cool trip experience as well as doing the TV show, which I enjoy, 350 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,720 you know, But but yeah, I mean for me, they you 351 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,160 know, working in I do a lot of working in music industry as well, 352 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,440 and I kind of drawn an analogy between people who write books and bands. 353 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,759 You know, it's like, if you're busy as a band, you 354 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:22,279 can earn a living on the road because today, you know, with downloads, 355 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:26,240 CDs don't sell as much as they used to. You know, sell 356 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,640 bands have to another way, and if you're busy and you keep on top 357 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,400 of things, you can earn a living. But it's only you know a 358 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,400 few bands that actually kind of reached the position of you know, you know, 359 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,119 just made a sellout set, you know what I mean. It's the 360 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:47,039 sort of most bands kind of go along at a certain level. Then every 361 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,160 so often you'll find one that sort of shoots up to number one and they're 362 00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:56,160 gigantic, and they maintain that for years until it's time from to get off, 363 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:03,279 you know. And there's sort of quite that with writing. It's it's 364 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,960 an unpredictable business. But for me, I enjoyed the unpredictable aspect of it 365 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,480 because you never really know what might happen and what can happen and the doors 366 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,119 it can open. So I would always say the people if they you know, 367 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,000 I always tay, I think everybody has got a story in them a 368 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,799 book or you know, there's always something that happens in somebody's life that would 369 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,880 lend itself to a book and people. So howd your started? I said, 370 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,079 Well, you know, you just write it down as it happened, 371 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,519 and go back and look at it the next day, and you often think 372 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,119 then, oh, change that it looked better if I did this, And 373 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,799 it's you know, like I said, you don't have to be Einstein. 374 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,960 I mean I'm a good example. I mean I could tell you I went 375 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160 to college, university, got all these big degrees. I didn't. I 376 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,480 walked out of school at sixteen. And what are you going to do? 377 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,160 You know, you do what you're going to do, so so anybody can 378 00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:00,000 do it, you know, that's right. Well, that's uh, yeah, 379 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,799 I wouldn't say anybody. But I think, you know, I don't 380 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:10,440 think education means always means. Now, I may be insulting someone that you 381 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,119 know, really went to a lot of schooling, but education doesn't always mean 382 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,440 that someone is really successful at something. You know, I know someone that 383 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,799 well made it to the ninth grade, and you know he sold his company 384 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,640 recently for two hundred and forty million dollars, so that's not too bad. 385 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,200 Well, you know, actually make a good point there, because I mean, 386 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,200 you know, I'm not saying education isn't important, because it is. 387 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:37,519 But I mean I've run across people who have gone from school to college to 388 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:44,400 university and they become teachers and they go back to school and they haven't really 389 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,240 seen much of the big wide world. You know, they said our less 390 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,240 school at sixteen, and I was sort of on the Road interview in Bands 391 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,200 at seventeen behind backstage. You know, I was thrust into the big wide 392 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,519 world quickly, and I enjoyed it, you know. And I was sort 393 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,920 of traveling around here, there and everywhere. You know, I just you 394 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,759 get expenses given to you. You know, well you've got to book your 395 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:11,319 flight and all this business, and you know to do that at sixteen, 396 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,160 you know, it's it's like jumping into something new. But for me it 397 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,359 was good because you don't just learn about, you know, taking your own 398 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:25,640 responsibility, but you also learn quickly that what the big world's like. And 399 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,839 sometimes I think when people are encased in just you know, going from the 400 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,440 school to university and doing then straight into a job and not seeing the world 401 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,119 around them. You know, it's it's kind of living in almost like a 402 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,519 like a blackhouse. You don't see what's going on outside or you don't experience 403 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:48,119 it. And and that's one of the good things about writing and things like 404 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,559 this. You do get to sort of diversify and you know, experience this 405 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,400 and see that. And how did you end up in the US? Well, 406 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,319 actually, I've got a job offer this I've been I've lived in the 407 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:07,400 US for fifteen years and actually got a job off. As I said, 408 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,440 I do contract research for authors, and it was basically like that. It 409 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,640 was a one year contractor then rolled over into a three year one and a 410 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:22,160 lot of it was based around the Dallas area where I moved to and kind 411 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,480 of stead of been here fifteen years, and yeah, I like it over 412 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:32,240 here, and did all the legal stuff and you know, officially emigrated just 413 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:37,400 in case Donald Trump's listening. You know, did all that paperwork, which 414 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,799 you know, for me, I think it's the right thing to do if 415 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,559 you're going to come to somebody else's country and live, you know, you 416 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:49,200 were by by by their regulations and and yeah, you know, I like 417 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:53,599 it over here. I live in the Dallas area still and I'm just outside 418 00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,599 Dallas, and so basically that's what brought me over, and that would like 419 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,599 I said, that was about fifteen years ago. Huh okay, So let's 420 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,359 talk about your book before we start. Matthew, I'm not sure where he 421 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,359 is. He's in the chat room every single time, he has been for 422 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:19,240 several months, and he is always asking this question about the RH negative factor. 423 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,319 So hopefully he'll catch the podcast if he's not available, on this because 424 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:25,920 I knew if he was going to be in the chat room, he'd have 425 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,200 a million questions for you. So the book is, the short title to 426 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:37,799 it is Bloodline of the Gods, and I'm trying to read what is The 427 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:45,400 tagline is Unraveled the Mystery of the Human blood type to reveal the Aliens among 428 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:52,519 Us. Yeah, enjoy having like lung subtitles. Yeah, yeah, So 429 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,920 what how did you? You know, how did you get interested in this 430 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,839 topic? And it is such a uh you know, it's kind of a 431 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:06,519 topic you wouldn't normally think about. And the only reason I think about it, 432 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,440 have thought about it it is because again from this guy named Matthew that's 433 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,680 in the chat room. He's always talking about it. He has a great 434 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:22,160 interest in the connections of abductees as well. So yeah, let's hear about 435 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,960 it. Well, yeah, I mean, you're right, it is kind 436 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,799 of an obscure subject and for the most part in terms of the UFO research 437 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,200 field, it has sort of gone under the radar for a long time. 438 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,880 Now. You know, if you google RH negative blood you can find a 439 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:43,319 lot of just regular medicine based storees, you know, at hospital sites, 440 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,359 doctors, medical sites, that kind of thing which will give you a lot 441 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:53,599 of just straightforward background on the rh negative situation, and occasionally, you know 442 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,119 you'll you'll drop on one that relates to the UFO subject. Now, one 443 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,960 of the things I was for when I'm writing a book. You know, 444 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,799 if people are going to buy your book, you want to be able to 445 00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,119 give them value for money and give them something new. I mean, I 446 00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:12,239 could tell you some horror stories about some well known authors who just have total 447 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,760 disregard for their audiences, you know, and I've almost come to fist fights 448 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,480 with a couple of them literally, you know, because they're like, well, 449 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,599 you know, they'll buy my books because it's my name, it doesn't 450 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:27,239 really matter, you know. To me, that's wrong. You know, 451 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,960 you've got to show your audience respect because they're people buying your book that you 452 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,039 know, the only reason I'm able to do what I do is because you 453 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,320 know, I'm fortunate enough for people don't buy the books, and I appreciate 454 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,840 the fact that they do, and I want to be able to give something 455 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,639 back, whether it's hanging out, you know, other a beer at the 456 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,960 conference, or you know, a lecture, or just by you know, 457 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,119 sign an autograph, or whatever. And so that comes back to the issue 458 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,559 of when I'm looking for a new book, you want to give the person 459 00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:00,159 I said, value for money and country and come up with something new other 460 00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:07,000 than regurgitatesing old stuff. And so I was looking around for ideas that we're 461 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,679 sort of a little bit untouched, but we're known to a degree at least. 462 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,760 And one of the things that popped up was the whole issue of you 463 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,599 know, our ex negative blood and to a degree. I stumbled upon it 464 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,480 sort of by accidents, from the perspective of hearing a few stories like online 465 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,480 or seen stories online or listening to the conferences where a few people said, 466 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,880 you know, I've got our H negative blood and ABC et cetera, et 467 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,960 cetera. And then I realized that, well, you know, that's another 468 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,719 person who's our ex negative and another So I literally one day I just googled 469 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,679 our negative blood plus UFO. It was that simple, and found a few 470 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,719 leads here and there, researching it further and then starting putting the word out 471 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,559 a little bit into more people and more people, and I realized that it 472 00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:01,719 was actually not just a minor obscure aspect. It was actually a large aspect 473 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,119 and he's a large aspect of the subject, but very few people have been 474 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:07,440 talking about it. You know, it's kind of like the whole issue, 475 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,719 like the elephants in the room. You know, UM, it's in front 476 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,280 of us, but he hardly ever gets touched upon. UM. And then 477 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,719 I thought, well, you know, it's time to do something about that 478 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,719 and sort of readdressed the situation. And that's what prompted me to do ah 479 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,400 uh huh. And so let's talk about UM. Well, first of all, 480 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,400 there is a question, UM that someone sent me an email today and 481 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,000 they had they had a question they wanted me to ask you, and that 482 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:42,920 is, is it possible for RH positive parents to give birth to an RH 483 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:47,920 negative child? Yes, it actually is, UM. I actually know someone 484 00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:53,280 who falls into that category. Um. There are there are risks with having 485 00:36:53,559 --> 00:37:00,239 an RH negative parents, excuse me, and an RH postive parents. And 486 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:07,599 I'll explain why that is. If you'll have UM saying our age negative father 487 00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:12,480 and our age positive mother, the you know, when the fetus starts to 488 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,039 grow, there can be there can actually be no problems at all. Now 489 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:20,880 a lot of people don't realize that although you know, the the unborn baby 490 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,320 actually gets its nourishment from the mother. The mother's blood stream and the blood 491 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,760 show the fetus. They don't cross, they don't mix. The actually kept 492 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,920 separate. However, if there are sort of few concerns about the fetus, 493 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,559 and you know that this procedure where a needle is inserted to allow them to 494 00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:43,760 take blood from the fetus to check it all out. If during that process 495 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,920 a little bit of that blood gets into the mother's blood stream, what's very 496 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:57,039 weird is that the our age positive mother her her basically her entire body recognizes 497 00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:01,039 the negative blood has been foreign and say alien and deadly, and the mother 498 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:07,599 then the mother's body literally tries to kill the unborn fetus, and that commit 499 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:13,199 extremely dangerous to the point where fortunately today we have drugs that will combat that. 500 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,280 But in the past, you know, the baby would be made to 501 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,480 risk. At the very least, it can cause severe anemia because the mother's 502 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,800 body actually prevents the baby from absorbing all the nourishments, and so they become 503 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,840 like the equivalence of like a young anorexic girl who doesn't eat, you know, 504 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,880 but they're not not eating deliberately. It's the mother's body is trying to 505 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,719 shut down the fetus. So in other words, that is one of the 506 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,000 strangest things about being RH negative versus positive is that the RH negative baby is 507 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:51,960 viewed as alien no pun intended. Now, So getting back to that question, 508 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,119 So if it is if two RH positive parents can give birth to an 509 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,920 RH negative, how does that fit in with your theories in this book. 510 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,639 Well, yeah, I mean that's a good point because you know, there's 511 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:13,639 the whole issue of RH negative parents versus you know, in RH negative baby, 512 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,679 it demonstrates that sometimes, you know, this can happen at random. 513 00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:24,119 But the reason why I wrote the book is because when you study the RH 514 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:30,199 negative phenomenon overall, we find a higher percentage of our H negatives who are 515 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:37,679 either abductees contacts have had profound UFO experiences. So, in other words, 516 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,800 even if some of these events appear to occur at random, you know, 517 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,559 there aren't answered questions to why that might happen. But even if that does 518 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:52,800 happen, we still see, you know, sort of like a greater level 519 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,320 of people who are into this subject. And so that's what leads me to 520 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,840 believe that being RH negative is not just a matter of you know, being 521 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,880 different to an RH positive person. There's something else going on Evening's luck at 522 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,960 a mindset level where the people feel driven and drawn to this subject. Wow. 523 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,039 Okay, So if you're listening live, you can jump into the chat 524 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:20,280 room at podcast ufo dot com and ask a question, or you can call 525 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,639 in at six oh three nine six seven four h three zero. A lot 526 00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:30,679 of people are listening right now, Nick, but very we get very few 527 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,400 calls of just letting you know. But that's fine. Now, Now, 528 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,239 can you kind of explain the book in general and you know, um and 529 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,320 go over some of the bullet points of the book as far as you know 530 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:52,239 the connection of possible possible aliens. M. Well, yeah, well, 531 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,679 just as people understand because it'll sort of lead into it, help them understand 532 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,039 the nature of it. Um. If probably, I just give you a 533 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:05,840 quick rundown on what RH negative blood actually isn't what it means. Now, 534 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,400 somewhere in the region of sort of eighty five, about ninety percent of the 535 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:15,239 population is RH positive, So it's about sort of ten to twelve percent that 536 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,440 is RH negative. Now r H stands to reesss as in the recess monkey 537 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,639 and essentially an RH positive person. But there are four types of blood ab, 538 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,800 AB, and O, and those classifications come from what are called the 539 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,880 antigens of a person's blood cells. And antigens are proteins that have found on 540 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:45,480 the surface of cells to combat bacteria viruses. Now those antigens, those proteins, 541 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,000 if you have those, you r X positive. The rh negatives don't 542 00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,000 possess any of those proteins that the rest of us have. So this begs 543 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,519 the question, if the theory of evolution is one direct, why is it 544 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,760 that a small percentage of the population has such radically different blood to the others, 545 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,639 And why should they have this UFO connection to a greater degree percentage wise 546 00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,599 and the rest of the population. So that's when we have to sort of 547 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:21,639 try and figure out why that should be. And this gets to what you 548 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,639 said about the theme of the bullet points. One of the things I point 549 00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:29,880 out is that although ten to fifteen percent of populations RH negative, there's actually 550 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,360 one group of people where it rises from anywhere between about forty five and fifty 551 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,760 five percent, and that's what's called the Basque people of Spain. Basque and 552 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,840 there, as I said, their figures are like forty five to fifty five 553 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,880 percent well, the Basque people have a unique language which is not totally unknown 554 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,079 anywhere else in Europe. It's so weird and strange. It doesn't resemble any 555 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:59,280 other European language, and it's been suspected that it's like a modernday equivalent of 556 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,440 a very ancient language. One of the theories is that it's actually the language 557 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,760 of chromagnum Man, because the superficially, at least the Basques do resent are 558 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,719 probably the closest living relative to the Chromagnums. They resemble them in certain ways. 559 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,199 They're like a larger forehead, more prominence, their bodies are more bulky, 560 00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:27,840 and the areas where the Basques are prominent are also the areas where chromagnut 561 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,719 Man proliferated. Now, there are other areas of the planet where there are 562 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,960 chromagnums, and there's a higher percentage of RH negatives in those areas in the 563 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,280 same way where the Basques live in France and Spain, there's a higher percentage 564 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,239 of our H negatives there and chromagnum manly there, which is almost like a 565 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:53,039 solid indicator that chromagnum Man was also RH negative. And this then leads into 566 00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:58,920 the issue of why chromagnum Man should have been RH negative and possibly not the 567 00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:05,320 Neanderthals or some of the other types of human And from there that leads into 568 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:12,559 the theories postulated by various people who studied the ancient aliens angle that was chromagn 569 00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:17,000 and man genetically manipulated in the distant past, possibly to be some sort of 570 00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:22,599 slave species. And if it was, was it modified to be sort of 571 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:30,519 more of a robust worker type entity, and did that involve making it our 572 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:37,639 ex negative because there are indications that our negatives have a greater resistance to certain 573 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,039 viruses and diseases. They have slightly lower blood pressure, which is good. 574 00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:44,880 You know, if people pressure slightly lower than normal, that's actually good for 575 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,800 your heart and everything. So in other words, it's the issue of was 576 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,559 somebody in the distant past trying to refine an early human species and as a 577 00:44:54,599 --> 00:45:00,519 result, did they create some sort of urge negative density if you like, 578 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:07,480 Wow, Now, Um, so you're saying that there's maybe twelve percent of 579 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:15,960 the US population, and so what is the connection to UFOs. I mean, 580 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,480 I would think that if someone's filling out a UFO report, for one, 581 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:25,199 that blood type is nothing that they would you know, indicate. But 582 00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:30,679 so how would you do some research as far as this goes, Well, 583 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,480 yeah, I mean a lot of it stems from the fact that, you 584 00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,519 know, the more the story gets out there, the more people come forward 585 00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:40,000 and say, hey, I'm our h negative. And the percentage who come 586 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:45,639 forward demonstrates, you know, I mean, it's not like it's the majority 587 00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:51,079 of the population who get abducted. Um, you know, are I mean, 588 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,719 there's not the majority of human population get abducted in the first place. 589 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:59,039 But when we find a larger percentage are our age negative. You know, 590 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,440 people who read about this because they want to learn more about their experiences, 591 00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,639 they then realize that, hey, I'm not alone. There are other RGE 592 00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:08,880 negatives. So in other words, a lot of this comes through word of 593 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,800 mouth and people relating their stories, and there's clearly, you know, a 594 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:21,360 larger percentage. Now, one of the intriguing things that demonstrates a link between 595 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:28,199 abductions and the rh negative issue is that many of the rh negative, certainly 596 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,400 a higher percentage than average, are born with an extra vertebrate in their back. 597 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,679 Now, that can happen at random, it's actually not you know, 598 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,039 that's uncommon, an anomaly, and most people may not even know unless they 599 00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,880 have to back surgery, but the percentage is higher in our age negatives. 600 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,079 Now what's really interest in keeping that in mind is if we go back to 601 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:55,119 probably the most famous alien abduction story of all, the Betty and Barney Hill 602 00:46:55,159 --> 00:47:00,719 case of nineteen sixty one. Well, when the Hills add their and county. 603 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,440 You know, obviously there was no real talk about time of alien abductions, 604 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:08,280 but very called missing time being taken on board some sort of craft, 605 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:14,800 started to get nightmares and bad dreams and realize that something weird had happened in 606 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:20,159 that missing time, so they decided to go and undergo regressive hypnosis. Now 607 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,559 keep in mind this issue of extra vertebra in the RH negatives. Well, 608 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,320 Barney Hill, when he was under hypnosis, said that when he was on 609 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,360 board the craft, the presumed aliens did something very weird. He said, 610 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,639 they were running their fingers down his spine slowly and carefully, and it made 611 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,079 him wonder if they were counting his vertebra, which you know, bear in 612 00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:46,360 mind, nobody was talking about extra vertebra and aliens and RH negative blood and 613 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,559 abductions in nineteen sixty one, and yet it was in the immediate aftermat of 614 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,519 sixty one that Barney was talking about all this, So, you know, 615 00:47:55,679 --> 00:48:01,320 that's one of the first things I've so got a chapter in the book about 616 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,159 what are known as mill apps, sort of military abductions, where abductees who 617 00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:14,719 have been abducted by again presumed extraterrestrials have later been abducted by what sounds almost 618 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,840 like rogue military agency like shadow agencies, and asked a lot of questions about 619 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,559 their blood, what type of blood do you have? Things like this, 620 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,440 suggesting that somebody at an official level, or as I said, at at 621 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,639 a rogue level outside of the government, seems to know something about this and 622 00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:39,800 they're targeting abductees as well. Wow. Yeah, So as far as people 623 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,800 that are abducted, I know Denise Stoner In Kathy Martin, the niece of 624 00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:55,719 Betty Hill, have a questionnaire for you know, the similarities between abduction cases. 625 00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,239 And I'm not sure if the blood tapers and that, but I'm going 626 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,239 to see Kathy next week. I'm going to ask her about that and ask 627 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,760 her what her thoughts are on that subject. Did you speak to anyone like 628 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,599 her that does any abduction research? Yeah, you did. I mean a 629 00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,199 classic example and right up to date is Mike Clelland I don't know if you 630 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:23,519 know Mike, but cl L A and D Mike clelland he's done a huge 631 00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:29,480 amount of research into abductions, and particularly from the perspective of how a lot 632 00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:34,079 of abductees have said that they seem to have screen memories of seeing owls, 633 00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:38,199 as to saying they know something weirds happened, but they can't consciously recall the 634 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,800 abduction experience, but they have this sort of weird memory of seeing like a 635 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,559 large owl stood at the site of Yeah, and Mike has hypothesized the idea 636 00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:52,920 that he actually got a book coming out on it shortly hypothesize that these could 637 00:49:52,920 --> 00:50:00,159 be screwed screen memories created by actually terrestrials to give like a down to a 638 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,840 explanation to hide what really happened. Now, bear in mind mic has dug 639 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,320 deeply into these phenomena and had experienced a lot of weird synchronicities as well when 640 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,119 he's been doing this research, and so not long ago he decided to get 641 00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:19,159 his blood checked and it turns out he's our age negative as well, And 642 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,159 so you know, here's a guy who's had the forefront of research into abductions, 643 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:30,880 looking into some really interesting alternative issues like the owl camouflage angle, and 644 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:37,239 he suddenly finds out he's our age negative. Other examples. One of the 645 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,559 chapters I have in the book is on a controversial issue known as inherited memory. 646 00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:45,559 You know, it's like if you know your child, or you know 647 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:49,840 and you pay lucky your parents, you can see traits from your father and 648 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,239 your mother, you know, in you say, with brothers and sisters and 649 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,559 things like that. Well, there's another theory that, to a degree and 650 00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:04,840 encoded deep in I DNA and are subconscious, that fragments of actual memories can 651 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,199 be passed down as well. Now that's not been proved, of course. 652 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,920 That what's interesting at that point out in this particular chapter in the book, 653 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,559 I mentioned about how certain people who are aged negative feel driven to the UFO 654 00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:22,639 subject, but they don't know why. Again, it is like something's encoded 655 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:28,239 in their mind. And I don't think for that reason that it's coincidence that 656 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:35,039 several of the major figures within ancient astronaut research are our agent negative. For 657 00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,760 example, Aaring von Dannick and is our agi negative. You know, he's 658 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:44,119 sort of you know, the leading or the most well known acient author. 659 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,039 Granted there were authors before him like Raymond Drake and Maurice Jessup who wrote about 660 00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,719 agent aliens would certainly Charoits of the Guards written by von Dannika in sixty eight 661 00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,679 was the one that really brought it to you the world. So he's our 662 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:06,960 negative. Brad Steiger, who's written extensively on ancient mysteries, you know at 663 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:13,599 Lanti Supyramids, ancient astronauts, he's our H negative. Robert Anton Wilson who's 664 00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,239 now deceased, but in the seventies he believed he was having sort of contact 665 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:25,039 te channeling conversations with extraterrestrials, some of which were based around ancient mysteries connected 666 00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:30,920 with the Egyptians. That's just three examples of a number where people at the 667 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:36,400 forefront of looking into ancient mysteries just happened to be our H negative. Wow, 668 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:40,440 and being such a small percentage that does mean something. Is it just 669 00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:49,480 the absence of a particular antigen that makes our H negative? Well yeah, 670 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,400 pretty much yes, but it's it's not so much you know what they lack 671 00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:57,360 that defines them as our H negative. That is, that is the reason 672 00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,480 you know that they're called our X negative. But it's the sort of the 673 00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:06,800 profound differences that just that one issue seems to provoke, as I said, 674 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:13,440 a higher resistance to viruses. There are other weird issues as well, like 675 00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:21,639 less tolerance to sunlight direct sunlight. For some reason, I've spoke to a 676 00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:27,599 lot of rh negative people, some of whom have no involvement in the UFO 677 00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:31,840 subject, and exposure to sunlight. A lot of the combect rashes and hives 678 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:38,199 on the shoulders and neck particularly more than anywhere else. And as I said, 679 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:44,719 there's this issue of slightly lower than normal blood pressure. Many of them 680 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,679 feel driven towards sort of spiritual issues, not sort of necessarily organized religion, 681 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,960 but just the idea of, you know, focusing on something bigger out there. 682 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,599 And as I said that the main thing is the UFO issue and the 683 00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:02,239 spill over there with abductions as well. So in other words, to get 684 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,519 back to your points, yes, it's the it's the whole issue of the 685 00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:10,519 lack of this protein that defines them. But the weird thing is why them 686 00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:15,239 that should cause all these other spin offs to occur as well. Right right 687 00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:19,760 when you were doing your research, if you haven't already talked about. It 688 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:25,199 was the one thing in particular that really stood out as really fascinating to you. 689 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,280 Well, I think the one thing for me, and this sort of 690 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:37,159 lends itself to further research, is how you know the abduction phenomenon, which 691 00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:40,000 I think is connected all this, because connected to all this, because you 692 00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:45,039 know you have a whole genetics angle. He's the way in which the abduction 693 00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:49,000 phenomenon has sort of developed. Hey, hang on just a minute. Sorry, 694 00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:52,519 Sorry, Nick, we have a caller who just called in. Caller, 695 00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:59,199 please say your name and welcome to the show. Thanks Mane. It's 696 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,559 that you. I had to work late tonight. Oh well, I'll tell 697 00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:06,199 you what we were talking. I was talking about you earlier because I thought 698 00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:09,199 you'd have a bunch of questions for Nick. And you're on with Nick now, 699 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,159 so go ahead and ask him ask away. Sure. I want to 700 00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:19,360 make a general comment i'd posted in the chat room a few weeks back for 701 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,199 those of you who are interested in knowing your blood type. I was surprised 702 00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:25,719 when I asked my doctor, who does blood work on me all the time, 703 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,960 who declined to tell me what my blood type is saving They didn't know 704 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,320 and saying insurance woudn't paid for it, and it would cost me a hundred 705 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,679 dollars to find that. The alternate way is donate your blood and they have 706 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:46,639 to tell you so I am all negative. Well, actually, you know 707 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,239 that's that's interesting that you you know, you're interested in all these subjects and 708 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,440 your own negative OW negative. I'm sure you know he's known as a universal 709 00:55:54,559 --> 00:56:00,960 donor because you know, if you I grateful, be group or I they, 710 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,800 you have to have that sort of blood injected into you, you know, 711 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,320 to be okay. However, anybody can be injected with OH negative, 712 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,440 because as I said, it's called the universal donor. And so in that 713 00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:19,840 sense, you know, you've got a really unique type of blood coupled with 714 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:28,920 an interest in UFO phenomenon um. Have you studied the research where they claim 715 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:35,519 that parish negative cannot be cloned at all? Now, actually haven't, no, 716 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,119 okay, And then I just have a couple of the commonalities that I've 717 00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:45,960 found from from my research and ICEH negative. I have low body temperature. 718 00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:52,239 My court temperatures typically ninety six twenty to ninety seven point three. I'm very 719 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:57,320 sensitive to heat. I swept profusely from my head. And another thing is 720 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,440 I get startled very easily people like walk around the corner. I'll just get 721 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:08,760 really really taken back and easy to startle. I guess, well, yeah, 722 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,840 I mean that's interesting. I don't know if you heard the show, 723 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:16,360 but I was actually talking about the lack of sensitive over sensitivities excuse me, 724 00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:22,840 to sunlight and and also low blood pressure, and that actually ties in as 725 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,760 well with like low body temperature and a lower the normal pulse rate, which 726 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,760 actually is nothing to sort of worry about. It's you know, it's a 727 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,800 good sign for the most part, providing you don't have any you know, 728 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,280 in aling conditions. But yeah, I mean it's interesting you've called in and 729 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:44,840 you you actually demonstrated you've got some of those characteristics. So Matt Matthew, 730 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:51,320 we met actually out in Phoenix originally, but you've been posting something in the 731 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:59,360 chat room about our age, negative blood almost anytime the abduction comes up or 732 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,079 anything like that. So how what got you interested in that? And and 733 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,159 you must have done some research on that, well, it is part of 734 00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:15,400 you were talking momentarily about Kathie Martin on her commonality list, it's listed there 735 00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:22,159 and it just comes up again and again. Um. So it's just a 736 00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:30,239 synchronicity with me and and uh and I was trying to discover why I slept 737 00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:34,480 so much, and I did a lot of research and that's what led me 738 00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:38,559 to look into myself. Uh huh yeah. Well okay, Well, thank 739 00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:40,840 you very much. You know, we're getting right at to the top of 740 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,119 the hour, So thanks for calling in, Matthew, and we'll see you 741 00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:52,760 back in the chat room. Ye. So we're still on, aren't you, 742 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,039 Nick? Yeah, yeah, okay, because I've had some trouble before 743 00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:02,559 with this uh with this phone system. It's all through Skype. But anyway, 744 00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:06,679 we're right at the top of the hour. So next hour we're going 745 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:12,719 to talk about Men in Black and some of your other books. So that's 746 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,920 it for our hours show. If you'd like to listen to the second hour, 747 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,239 it's actually very fascinating. 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So next week we have Don 755 00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:54,519 ecker on and I want to thank everyone for helping out with a show today, 756 00:59:54,519 --> 01:00:00,760 Alejandro Rojas with the news, our guest Nick Redfern pay be shunning for 757 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:04,719 helping us with the Facebook page. Remember you can like us on Facebook for 758 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,320 all the latest UFO news. We have music by Bruce Ranier and Carrie Lloyd 759 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,159 Whitehouse. So that's it and we'll see you next week. Remember to keep 760 01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:35,440 your eyes to the sky.