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Steve Ravera and jaygn Salez. They
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Sports Stage JAFT Fox Sports fourteen fifty
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Wham Hey, welcome back to any
of the Ball here on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's
Jay, and now we have Adam with

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breaking news. This is I on
the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. All right, so some
breaking news out of the NFL last night

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during the draft broke a record with
six quarterbacks and the top twelve note defenders

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were taken, so pretty offensive.
Sure, And I think even Saban was

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talking about this where somebody was how
in today's NFL, if you're not scoring

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points, you're gonna lose, doesn't
matter how good of a defense you have,

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because that's and it's always kind of
like a copy it's a copycat league,

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and everybody wants to score because Mahomes
just kind of changed the mean is

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the complexion of the league, and
then they want to find the next guy

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who's like him. Yeah, I
mean the first defensive player was selected fifteen

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Yeah, Yatu Latsu out of UCLA
to the Colts. So there was a

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lot of Pac twelve dudes. I
don't know if you noticed that, Jay,

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and you're thinking the Pack twelve was
pretty darn good. But no one

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will ever know that. No,
no, yeah, no, yeah,

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I'm what's his name? John Kenzon
had a really snarky remark about that.

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He said he said the Pac twelve
had uh two quarterbacks drafted in the first

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round, that had a team in
the National Championship Game. All these things

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said, and they couldn't get a
TV deal done. Yeah it makes no

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Yeah, it makes no sense.
Also, the league, Roger Goodell said,

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in an eighteen game regular season,
isn't unreasonable. They're good right now

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at seventeen, but you never know
in the future, which is not good

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for the players. But you got
that whole dynamic between owners and players.

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So you guys, you must be
happy. No, no, no,

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no, from your Chicago people.
Oh from the draft. Yeah, that

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was a great Maybe by the time
you turn fifty you might have a Super

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Bowl. Damn, I'm the grumpy
guy you are. I think we're headed

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in the right direction. Some baseball
news we talked about a little earlier.

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Anthony Ron don he towards hamstring.
He's out and definitely. Again not surprising.

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He's been for his entire Angel tenure. So tough break for the Angels

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again. Yeah, and he's and
he's just been. They spent a whole

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ton of money on that guide and
nothing. You know, he can't Yeah,

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you can't stay on the field.
He can't stay on the field.

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College Football News athletes tried to get
Iowa gambling probes. There are athletes tied

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to Iowa gambling probe damages in civil
lawsuits. Oh yeah, because they cleared

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everybody, or they ready cleared everybody. Yeah, for most everybody else,

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yes, So they're trying to clear
their name. And then the ex Iowa

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offensive coordinator, Brian Ferentz, he
joins Maryland as an offensive assistant. So

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he joins, uh for you.
The head coach, Kevin Summon, say,

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did you say that because he's an
offensive guy. I think he's the

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quarterbacks coach. He's yes, yes, he'll be working with the offense.

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And yeah, the guy, the
guy couldn't score ten points a game.

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Honestly, that's why he was fired. Oh yeah that I had a great

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defense, so that's what kept him
in games until it didn't. Absolutely out

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of the NBA, Amazon is nearing
a deal to acquire NBA broadcast rights,

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which would be big for them,
one of the primary broadcasters for the league's

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games. This contract would expect Amazon
to show Marquee regular season games, playoff

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contest, including the possibility of conference
finals games. They're looking for six all

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in the world wide web, right, No more TV. I want to

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sell them. You want to be
screen TV, I'll sell to you.

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It's not gonna be worth anything anymore. I'm gonna watch it on my computer,

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on my phone, your computer to
your TV. Will you have to

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go over and set it up for
me? Thank you. No, I'm

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not to do that myself. It's
easy, but kid, do it for

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me. It's easy. Also in
the NBA, Nets are hiring ex Michigan

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head coach Juwan Howard as their assistant. They just hired a new NBA coach

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from Sacramento. So this assistant from
Jody Fernandez. So Jowan will be his

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lead assistant. And that was pretty
much okay. So, so mine is

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wait, I have breaking news.
Oh, don't don't screw with me.

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I find out how to get the
spring tickets. Oh okay, no,

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go ahead, yeah, okay.
It was such a basic thing as my

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fault. I'm here with Matt with
matt Ins, and they're like, I

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know, the two of them are
sitting in the rocks the way that guy's

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not really very smart. Okay.
So okay, go to the u of

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A website. On the U of
Athletics website, there's three different links,

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you know, stories about the Spring
game. So you go there, you

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click on one of the links,
uh, and you go to a page

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and it'll give you a link to
the ticket page the ticket site. Click

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on that link and you got to
put and it gives you just this mint

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and it just a place you got
to put in a code and the code

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it says it in the release.
The code is spring in all Cats.

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And then you can get your tickets. Okay, so it's not hard,

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okay, So Athletics, there's no
Wildcats dot com or Arizona Arizona Waldcats dot

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com. Okay, all right,
And then on any one of the they're

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like the first the first two on
top News, the first two items are

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about the Spring game. Click on
one of those, uh. You go,

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then you'll find a link it says
click here to claim your community ticket.

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And that's where and it said right
there. It says, use the

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promo code spring. Okay, that's
the thing that I wasn't seeing. Okay,

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I am a bode Okay, that's
how you get your tickets and tickets

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you want. Okay. So my
breaking news is kind of a kind of

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a big one. You remember Ray
Smith put here under Sean Sean Miller at

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the time he brought he hurt his
knee. Then he came back at the

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time Sean Miller said he was going
to be the best player that he ever

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recruited here, and then he got
hurt twice. A really good kid,

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really likable kids. Okay, you
felt bad for you? Hold that thought

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because yesterday or Wednesday? Do you
guys know what I'm talking about? You

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know what I'm saying. So okay, So he he's a teacher now in

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Vegas. He's from Vegas. Was
he the one on that video? He's

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the one on the video who knocked
out the kids who said and now he

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was arrested. He was arrested,
and now he's he's going to face some

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assault charges. And they let him
out today pending some restrictions, of course,

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and now he's probably never going to
teach again. And he knocked the

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hell out of that. I saw, well, I saw those videos were

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popping up, and that was the
race. And I didn't know that race.

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I mean, how many people in
this country named Ray Smith? Right?

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And he goes by ri Kwan Smith, now a substitute teacher who has

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been with the district since November,
was booked into Clark County Detention Center on

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a film account with battery with substantial
bodily arm. The dude went down,

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he did. I saw it,
And you know, I know that.

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You know, there's people out there
saying, well, how much does a

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teacher have to take? Well,
you know what, as a teacher,

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you have to take everything. Yeah, which is very sadly, you can't

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do that. And and and kids, you know, kids are kids,

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and they're you know, they're a
lot of bad ones in the idiots.

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But there's certain things you can't do. And that's one of them. Pre

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pre COVID, I taught at a
local junior high during all this craziness for

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a friend who was a principal or
is a principal, and I went,

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Okay, cool, it's gonna be
fun with the kids. It was the

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most unbelievable thing of about to never
do it again. I heard words I'd

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never heard before, and the kids
didn't give a crap. Steve, And

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you know, twenty years ago,
you know, I even longer ago than

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that is when I was still at
the paper and I would get asked to

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go talk to kids at high school, you know, cools about sugar and

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stuff like that. And there was
one of the times I went and there

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was a substitute teacher and they didn't
care. Probably Oh my god, I

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wanted to stand at the front of
the room and you tell at all of

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them. Yeah. What I've learned, when I learned, is that as

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long as the building's not on fire, it was a good day. Yeah,

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I mean, which is sad to
hear. And you guys have been

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students, not you know, students
back then, not too long ago.

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Are we wrong? No, No, it sucks. But I mean they

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feel like they could get away with
anything, and well, yeah, because

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you can't. You can't touch them, you can't say things to him.

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There's so much you can't do now
that. Did you ever get swats when

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you were gets paddled? Oh god, no, god no, no,

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you never did. No, No, were you crazy? I've never done

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a drug in my life or a
gun swat. I'm pretty proud of that

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I got. I went to a
Catholic she got paddled in the fourth,

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fifth, sixth, and seventh grade. And I'm the back guy, you

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know, and my parents went to
the grave and never knew. Well,

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well you're rick. No, No, now he does, and now he

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didn't know nobody what what he what
would he have done? How do you

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know? Then kick the crap out
of me? To you he thought you

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thought you thought you got a beating
at school? Here comes right? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, no, no, I would never. I went

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to Catholic school too, and they
didn't take it easier. Yeah, no,

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I got to know paddled four grades
in a row. Write this stuff

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down, guys, if you didn't
witness, it's not gonna be him.

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I'm sort of proud of this because
I look what I've become. Yeah what

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I got hit. I got hit
in elementary school, and I came out

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kind of semi normal. So that's
where we went from racist and jay being

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paddled at schools and seventh grade transition. I give, I can't remember I

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can even name the teachers, man, okay, okay, So that that

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was my breaking news. Un Fortunately
I didn't know that was him. Yeah,

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I had to say, I had
to look at the photos and stuff,

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and yeah, that was him.
He was a very good guy.

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I'm sure he still is. But
when you get pushed to him to a

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little you know, teachers can like
everybody else, you know, you have

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a limit, but there's still a
line you cannot cross. And I'm afraid

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that that's a line that you cannot
right. And and he's twenty seven years

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old. God he was. He
was eighteen years probably old, nineteen years

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when he was here, fantastic player. And then he got hurt. Maybe

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he blew out in the Red movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the

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Red Movie. He kept getting hurt
and he kept coming back and people thought

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he was gonna, uh, you
know, be you know that guy,

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and he just couldn't. He just
couldn't stay. He just couldn't stay in

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the in the lineup right. Bad. That's right. I think that's all

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I had. You got your you
got your internet thing fixed or realized.

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So okay, So yeah, the
tickets are available to go on. Go

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on to the athletics website, click
on the link that takes you to the

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ticket form and the and the code
is spring all all cats and tickets are

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available there no no charge. Show. Hey, Tony just went you art

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again? Seventh of the year.
Yeah, Dodger stuff one zip, one

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zip already top of the first.
Okay, uh, you want to take

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a break since we're dying here,
and then we'll have maybe maybe maybe Grammar

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will give us a call. Yeah, we won't keep him on a long

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because I'm sure he's working the story. Okay, where, okay, where's

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that where Let's go back to the
raceman thing. Where was he? Where

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is he that this happened? It
was in Las Vegas. He's from Las

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Vegas, so that's where he was. And he was a substitute teacher,

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as a substitute teacher, right,
so I'm sure that was. You know,

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when you're a substitute teacher, you're
a target man, even if you're

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six five sixty seven whatever. And
and you saw the disparity in the the

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guy must have been fifteen sixteen whatever
talking crap. You know, let me

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get my hands on they can't do
Yeah, I hate that, I really

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hate that. Yeah, what are
you what are you going to do as

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a teacher? Your your dignities being
question your everything. It's not it's not

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a good look, and what do
you do? Walk away and hope it

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doesn't retire. Yeah, there's no
right or wrong answer. Yeah, dang,

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all right, let's too bad.
Okay, Yeah, let's go take

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our break. We're gonna come back. We'll talk more about whatever you want

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to talk about. Five two zero
four one six seventy four forty trying to

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reach Jeff Grammar to talk more about
Rubert Douglas and him and and him passing

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away and then you know, I
I don't want to go to I don't

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want to go knee deep into the
Raysmith thing. No, no, no,

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I just wanted to bring that up
because it's involved a form of guy.

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Hey, welcome back to I on the

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Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm Steve. He's Jay. Now on

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the phone, we have Jeff Grammer
from the Albuquerque Journal formerly of the Tucson

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Citizen. Him and I are colleagues
there. Jeff, how way are you?

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Thanks for taking a call. I'm
doing good, man, I was.

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How's Tucson doing. I haven't been
back in a long time. Yes,

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it's fine that it has a little
Albuquerque flavor today, little windy and

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not like Tucson is normally. But
you're working on a story. We saw

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that you had retweeted a story about
Ruben Douglas, a former guy from here.

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Yeah, so I was. I
got a text message this morning that

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was a tweet from EuroLeague Basketball announcing
that Ruben had died. Ruben Douglas,

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who was at Arizona what was at
the ninety nine two thousand season, I

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believe right, Yeah, and he
had transferred to un M played three years

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here, was a scoring champion in
two thousand and three, three years all

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Mountain West, and a really good
college career here with some teams that weren't

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all that good, and then went
on and had a great career overseas in

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Europe, one of EuroLeague Finals MVP
one year. And apparently, as we

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reported earlier today, he had died
earlier this week. From that I just

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got off the phone about ten minutes
ago with his brother. He actually did

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die last Friday in Costa Rica with
still somewhat kind of unknown infection that he

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came down with. But he had
been spending a lot of time in Costa

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Rica and and in Arizona where he
lived, Okay, so he wasn't on

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there competing or anything like that.
He was just yeah, had made some

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connections and some friends and and it
sounded like he was kind of living in

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both places, both extended vacations kind
of what this was. But maybe not

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at a hotel or anything, but
somewhere he kind of had the had been

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living and staying for a while,
but there. The family still isn't entirely

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sure what he came down with or
what it was, but it was he

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was in good health and came down
with something and passed away last Friday.

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As before you came on, I
was Jay and the guys that if you're

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Ruben Douglas or a guy like him, and you're that guy in Albuquerque,

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you probably don't have to buy a
beer by a meal, you don't have

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to be anything over there because he
was so good. And just if you

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even look on just on social media, to go on x or or Twitter

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as I still call it the you
look at some of the replies U and

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M has put a story out that
we have a story out on the Albuquerque

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Journal. You just look at some
of the replies on social media, and

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it's people telling stories. And I
remember him doing this. I remember this

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about him, and it's he wasn't
just a guy who scored a whole bunch

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of points on a horrible team.
There was some truth to that as well

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too. They weren't the best of
teams, they weren't winning the titles or

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anything. He was a guy that
was as good as scorer by the end

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of his college career kind of developed
into just a fantastic score now he saw

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I believe why he came to New
Mexico is he realized he probably wasn't going

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to start, if I remember,
if I have my years lined up correctly,

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he came in on a one heck
of a recruiting class I think was

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like Richard Jefferson with Walton maybe.
And then the year after was Gilbert Arenas.

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Is that right, that's w Gilbert
Arena's coming in and decided maybe he

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could take his chance and somewhere else, and uh just flourished. And then

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one year McKay, yeah, well
it was it was Reuben. Two guys

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came in, Luke, Grecor,
and Gilbert came in and he said,

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well and he liked to score.
He liked to shoot, and then Luke's

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system that didn't work. Everybody has
some shooting and he played. Have you

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talked to fran at all because he
played for sholl Yeah, yeah, I

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reached out to friend. I texted
him. He was traveling to New York

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when I first reached out to him, So I haven't heard back from him

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or McKay, but I've reached out
to both of them today to talk with

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both of them, and hopefully I
assume both of them will get back to

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me. But I do know fran
On social media. Uh shared the link

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I had sent him in a text
message, which was just announcing that Reuben

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had died. It's just stunning when
you see something like that, right,

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And I mean I didn't know Ruben
Douglas from Joe Schmoe, but you know,

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I read that and I go,
God, here's the you know,

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dude, forty four years old and
all of a sudden, he's just gone

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just like that, you know,
you know, in supposedly you know,

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fine health, and all of a
sudden, something sudden like that happens and

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a life ends, and it's just
it just it just kind of shocks you

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to your core when when something like
that happens. And that's that's how it

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was for me. And like I
said, you know, I mean,

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I yues, you know, I
was at the stat table and I saw

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Ruben play in the whole bit.
But it's kind of like more of a

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just stunning that an athlete in good
health that this can happen. It's yeah,

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kind of everybody here in Albuquerque certainly
off guard too, because he was

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a guy that you know, Steve
mentioned never En have to buy a beer

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in Albuquerque, and that was true. But I don't think he'd been back

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much. He'd been They did an
alumni All Star game here, I want

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to say twenty fifteen, and as
far as I know, that was the

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last time he had been back to
Albuquerque, and man, people just you

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know, loved seeing him in twenty
fifteen, and a bunch of the former

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logos, you know, Danny Granger
came back and some guys that global fans

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were just happy to see. But
Ruben Douglas was sort of the old guard

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of the bunch that still played.
And you know, there were some older

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Lobos too that didn't play. Ken
Thomas was there, didn't play. Some

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of the older guys that played in
the nineties and eighties weren't playing. But

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of the group that actually still got
up and down the court a little bit,

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Ruben Douglas in twenty fifteen was there, and there were kids there that

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had never seen him play, you
know, born after his time in the

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pit. But there are also some
Lobo diehards that were wearing number five Lobo

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jerseys, and you know, you
don't see that at a whole lot of

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players. So that was twenty years
ago that we played here, and a

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lot of people showed up with number
five jerseys. Though that day you spoke

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to his brother, did you is
his father still around? So his father

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passed. I want to say it
was five years ago. His brother called

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me four or five years ago and
yeah, So his father was from Panama,

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and Rubin did play him the Panama
national team a little bit. I

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don't know if he ever I don't
know what level he played at, like

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he was on their national team,
but I don't know if it was ever

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on a cycle where they were playing
like an Olympic years or qualifiers. But

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he did play something for the Panama
national team. And his father was from

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Panama. Came to the States to
play college at somewhere in Wyoming, not

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the University of Wyoming, but that's
what brought his family to the States.

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His mother and one older brother,
Ramone, are still living in California,

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and then he has another older brother
named Russell, who's living in Washington,

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d C. Neither one of them
played basketball to Ruben's level. And just

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speaking with Ramone, you know a
little bit of a little while ago,

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he just said watching Rubin play,
especially kind of come that senior year when

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he's leading the nation and scoring,
averaging twenty eight a game. He just

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he said, he's putting up you
know, at the college level, he's

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doing Kobe like things. Where there
were games just there was nobody that could

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stop him. The only thing that
would stop him as if they couldn't get

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the ball to him. And uh, and it's true he was. He

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was pretty special by that senior year. And it just would have been crazy

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to think had he stayed at Arizona. I don't know how it would have

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worked. I don't know. Probably
wasn't you know, There's only one ball

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in the quarter at the time,
so who knows if it would have ever

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developed into what he developed into it
New Mexico. But uh, there was

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so much talent on those Arizona teams
and uh and Ruben was very much a

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guy that at least offensively, could
have held his own with those guys had

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he stuck around. So it would
have been interesting to see. Yeah,

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no here average points and would not
That's one of the reasons why he left,

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because he wanted the ball and wanted
to score. And the reason I

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asked about his dad is because his
dad I remember talking to him a lot

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because he was always in Loot's office. Why isn't Ruben playing and let's listen,

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let's change the subject real quick.
Uh you covered you covered New Mexico

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while you covered New Mexico full time. They played at Clemson in the first

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round. Everybody in the world had
New Mexico beating Clemson and they didn't.

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And uh what happened? Well,
two things surfire signed that they're not going

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to win is when everybody just jumps
on board, right like the On the

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one hand, I'll say that,
like they ended a decade long NCUAA tournament

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drought and they've never had a decade
long drought like that. It's it's been

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a while, so they were rebuilding. There was a sense of kind of

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happy to be there. I don't
think any of them would admit that.

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But they did win four games in
four days to win the Mountain West Tournament,

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you know, the week prior,
first team that ever did that.

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So there was a little bit of
all that, like maybe they maybe they

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were tired, But I think the
most part was, like there's one type

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of team that was a horrible matchup
for them all year, and that was

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a big team and and Clemson was
bigger than them at every single position,

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all five spots, on the floor
had two maybe three inches on every player

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they were going up against. And
this was a Lobo, a un M

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Lobo team that had a six foot
point guard in Jalen House, who,

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by the way, was tremendous,
and there was on a state and transfer

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and obviously Eddie House's son. He was

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tremendous, but he was six foot
tall. And the other two guards they

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played were six two and six two. Jamal Mashburn Junior was one of them.

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So they played three guards who were
six two and shorter, and if

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those three guards were having trouble getting
their shots up, it was gonna be

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a long game. And they had
a few of those this year where they

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played a Boise State that was a
bigger team, and they would play Clemson

407
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:26.559
that was a bigger team, and
they just could not score and he got

408
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:32.160
ugly and the NCAA turn up matchup
tournament matchup ended up being just like that.

409
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.359
We're talking to Jeff Grammer, reported
the Albuquerque Journal on the working on

410
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.160
the rub In Douglas Strubber and I
also asking you, but some New Mexico

411
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.400
questions related to Arizona. So what
have they got here on the football staff

412
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:49.000
and Danny Gonzales man Danny was the
saddest thing about Danny not working out in

413
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.599
Albuquerque for un M is that he
was a local kid, went to Valley

414
00:27:52.640 --> 00:28:00.000
High School here in Albuquerque. Absolutely
just lived and breathed un M athletics,

415
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.359
not just football. But he could
hold his own in this conversation about global

416
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.839
basketball and tell you stories about Ruben
Douglas that I've never heard. He went

417
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.200
to every game in the pit,
huge global fan. He'd show up to

418
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.960
women's soccer matches, he'd show up
to tennis matches, he would do all

419
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.200
of that, and and everybody here
wanted it to work out so much,

420
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:23.759
and it just didn't. You know, I don't know if it's entirely any

421
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:29.319
indication that of him as a head
coach. He but it wasn't working out.

422
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.599
They were never turned a corner.
They weren't really embracing the nil world

423
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.880
two years ago when when other teams, you know, when the MTAA started

424
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.640
allowing it, and when they jumped
on the nil kind of train about you

425
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.000
know, just last offseason. It
was it was a little too little,

426
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.599
too late. I guess, and
he wasn't able to recruit at a very

427
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.839
high level. And I just you
know, everybody here was pulling for him.

428
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.880
I don't think his departure from here
was a whole lot of people fed

429
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.960
up with Danny. And anyway you
would, you would always give you time.

430
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.480
He would talk to everybody, media, fans, people, the grocery

431
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.480
store and makes himself better available.
And he is a good defensive mind,

432
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.599
very good defensive mind. So you
know, I think he's a good piece.

433
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.680
I think he's a really good piece. But a lot of people were

434
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.200
pulling for him to make it work
out here because you know, he wanted

435
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.640
it so bad. Yeah, and
real quick. Maybe last question, Nil,

436
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.400
how is it affecting New Mexico?
Because we know how the big schools

437
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.839
deal with it and how much money
they have they have tons. Arizona's kind

438
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.599
of like middle of the road maybe
as far as we know, but the

439
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.039
schools like New Mexico, Colorado State, stuff like that. How is it

440
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:41.559
going? So? New Mexico has
a retired New York Brooklyn real estate attorney

441
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.400
was well off went to school here
in the seventies. A guy named Kurt

442
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.039
Roth who's sort of taking up as
his retirement gig. Running the NIL here

443
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.119
and New Mexico for two years has
sort of been the not sort of.

444
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.480
It has been the best NIL collective
in the Mountain West. Now there's a

445
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:02.759
jump between the best in the Mountain
West and what the Power Conferences NIL money

446
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.119
is like. If there's a reason
they're recruiting pretty well, now there's a

447
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.680
reason there probably unless he decides to
stay in the NBA Draft. They're retaining

448
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.799
a six foot nine freshman of the
Year and JT. Toppin and when they

449
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.640
have the former California Player of the
Year Donovan Dent, who could have gone

450
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.839
elsewhere to make you know, probably
four or five hundred thousand. They're keeping

451
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.039
players here and retaining players here because
they're ANIL collective. At New Mexico,

452
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:32.119
it's much better, frankly than San
Diego States. The UNLV and Boise State

453
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:34.640
have really kind of gained ground a
little bit, but New Mexico kind of

454
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:40.359
set the bar for the for the
non Power Conference. I would say NIL

455
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.559
collectors around the country, not just
in the West, and they're doing really

456
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.319
good. They got a lot of
money, a lot of local fans are

457
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.440
buying into this. It's called the
five or five Sports Venture Foundation, and

458
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.720
for twenty dollars a month membership,
you know, they give them exclusive content,

459
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:59.240
some some Instagram video, some interview
stuff like that that these players agree

460
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.400
to do and go do some charitable
stuff around town. But they have a

461
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.079
whole there's not a whole lot of
major individual donors in New Mexico and Albuquerque.

462
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.119
But what they have is is fifteen
thousand fans to show up to the

463
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.119
pit all the time for games.
And if you get a good chunk of

464
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.079
that paying twenty dollars a month,
that adds up quite a bit. So

465
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.880
it makes sense their their collective is
over a million dollars for men's basketball alone.

466
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.960
Makes sense, makes sense. Good
idea. Wow, Okay, now,

467
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.839
if that Patino guy can just coach, you'd be all right, I'm

468
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.359
telling you, man, If yeah, he can recruit and you can recruit

469
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.319
and kind of coaches where we're at, so he can improve the kind of

470
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.000
part of that, I think I
think they should be pretty good. I

471
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.799
do think they're probably gonna be one
or two in the in the Mountain West

472
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.200
next year. But yeah, the
pressure's on. We better you better do

473
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.119
more than just get to the tournament. Right, we had a who's the

474
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.200
eighty unis? What's his name?
Oh yeah, Edie? And so he

475
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.839
was fun. He was good.
I said, you know, make sure

476
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.720
that the Graham grammar doesn't bully you, you know, stuff like that.

477
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.440
How's he He sounded pretty good.
He's good. I think. So he

478
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.400
came from he's from Miami and he
was a you know, walk on for

479
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.880
like a Billy Donovan Florida team basketball
wise, way back when, and so

480
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.920
he has some athletics roots to him
as a player as well, but went

481
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:17.000
kind of grew up and did his
progression in the administrative role at LSU and

482
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.519
some MESSYC schools, and I think
he wants to get back to a big

483
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.079
time program. The big thing for
him is if he can get football right.

484
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:29.160
And they made a really good hire
in Bronco Mendenhall. If he can

485
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.279
get football right, he'll he'll probably
be moving on to the next ad job

486
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:37.200
as soon as somebody somebody offers him
the gig. But he's been here like

487
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.880
six years now too, so it's
not like it was just a one to

488
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.720
two kind of year deal or he
moved on. But he's he's pretty good.

489
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.480
He kind of came into a mess. There were a couple actual criminal

490
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.559
cases kind of pendings within the athletics
department when he got here, in some

491
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:57.279
financial messes, and he kind of
navigated through all that. So they're kind

492
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.920
of coming out the other end of
all that. Okay, well thanks,

493
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.359
yeah, appreciate your time. You
know you're gonna be busy today. Get

494
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.720
back to work. Yeah, yeah, I'll get appreciated. Thanks, thank

495
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:08.759
you. Jud Jeff Caremer. He
was actually named the Sports Rudder of the

496
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:13.640
Year in the country last year.
Really, well, let's tell you,

497
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.920
let's stories kind of dictate these things. You know that in the story it

498
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:21.160
was the shooting, the shooting between
and the death. He was all over

499
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.279
that. So the story makes the
stories come to you, and you can

500
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.720
you can get awards like that,
right right, So I need to dial

501
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.359
a great job without him, and
him and a cohort worked the cop beat

502
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.720
for a long time and your mixico
see gout all those things, you know

503
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.720
whatever. Okay, so that was
good. That was good. At least

504
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:37.920
we got caught up. Yeah,
all right, so that was really good.

505
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:43.200
All right, let's put a break. Yeah, I'm trying to see

506
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.680
what time it is. Yeah,
it's just perfect. Let's take our last

507
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.359
break. We'are to come back and
again take your costs five T zero four

508
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It's Steve Rivera and Jacin Salvinz.
This is I on the Ball on Fox

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Sports fourteen. The Hey, welcome
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty m Steve,
he's Jake got at them with us,

550
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saying Juan to finish off the show
here on Friday, it's been a good

551
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week. We only have sixteen minutes
to screw it up. We're capable very

552
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much. We have the technology.
That's fifteen minutes too much, Uh,

553
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Adam, go ahead and give us
what you have. So round two has

554
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just started in the NFL Draft.
The first pick in the second round was

555
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Keon Coleman out of Florida State.
It's followed up by Charge the Chargers taking

556
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:29.559
Ladd McConkey from Georgia and Atlanta Washington
both just took defensive tackles. In New

557
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:35.079
England took another receiver in Jalen Polk
from Washington. Okay, those are those

558
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.679
are pretty good two one two combination, right Washington Polton. Well again,

559
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.800
and going back to the whole I'm
gonna I'm gonna beat, could continue to

560
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.960
beat this dead horse. You know, you know, Jane Daniels had a

561
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:51.320
receiver with their their the pick or
something like that, the Lake Nivers number

562
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:53.079
six sick. Okay, so you
had that guy and you still wind up

563
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:58.679
in a crap bowl game and then
you won the freaking Heisman Trophy. I

564
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.559
mean, it's just it just continues
to boggle my mind. Then, well

565
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:06.039
what we do here? I think
in that case, I think that you'll

566
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.599
agree that it was an East Coast
bias totally. And it's always like that

567
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:14.519
step again. You know, when
when Toby Gerhardt, Andrew luck And and

568
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.400
Christian McCaffrey all should have won a
Heisman Trophy and then gave it to an

569
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.239
Alabama guy each of those years,
especially the McCaffrey he was better than Henry.

570
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.719
I agree with you on that an
Alabama guy got it because they gave

571
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.760
it to the best guy on the
best team, so the best guy.

572
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.400
You know, this time they gave
it to a good player on a crap

573
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.280
team instead of a guy who was
in the national championship. I think to

574
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.480
your point, I think the first
time or one of the first or early

575
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.519
times that they actually saw Penis was
in the semi final game. Remember,

576
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.280
he was fantastic and he couldn't miss, and he was getting pinpoint, and

577
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.800
they said who is this guy?
And by that time everybody voted exactly exactly.

578
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.400
I mean, look, I mean
I saw jayde and Daniels enough to

579
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.000
know that Michael Pennix was the way
better college quarterback. And I get it,

580
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:01.559
Jayden and Dan you know, the
NFL Scotts, they think Jade and

581
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.239
Daniels a better quarterback. They drafted
him second. Penix was later. You

582
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.039
know how much of that had to
do with Pennix's age, But if you're

583
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:13.920
telling me who had a better college
football season and meant more to their team,

584
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.360
it was Michael Pennix by a lot, by a lot. Yeah,

585
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.119
I liked him, and I liked
Nicks even more, you know at the

586
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.400
time, and I thought Oregon would
beat Washington to move on, and it

587
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.480
didn't happen. Michael Pennix was better
than Caleb Williams last year. Right now,

588
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.719
again, you know the NFL.
You know, when you're talking about

589
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.159
who's going to be the better pro
quarterback, Okay, I'll give it to

590
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.000
the NFL Scotts say those two guys. But the Heisman Trophy isn't about who's

591
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.440
going to be the better NFL quarterback. The Heisman Trophy is about who was

592
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.639
the best player in college football in
a given year. And they gave it

593
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:52.760
to that guy. You know,
they gave it to Jade Daniels because he

594
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.440
played at LSU and not because he
was the best. And that Pennix went

595
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.960
undefeated going into the title game too, right, like, yeah, no

596
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.400
question, no question. He had
a better resume overall. Yeah, in

597
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.719
all, in all areas, yeah, across the board. So anyway,

598
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:13.320
Okay, I may, I may
let that go, but then I may

599
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.039
not. We have twelve minutes.
Bone, screw it up, screw it

600
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:22.000
up. Okay, everybody, our
buddy Don was on social media, tell

601
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.679
me I saw that well yesterday,
right, yeah, yeah, let it

602
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.159
go, let it go. Okay. And then when the Cardinals they got

603
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.000
two guys, right so far,
Yeah, they got two guys. They

604
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.119
have Harrison, uh for you know, probably one of the better players.

605
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.559
I thought they were going to trade, and there was a lot of discussions

606
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.599
they were going to trade that we'll
get some more guys as opposed to one

607
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.320
really good guy. But I know
it sounds like Kyler Murray was like pulling

608
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:52.239
for Marvin Harrison, which very selfishly
right, generational type wide receiver. His

609
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:58.519
dad's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, and uh Murray needs to Yeah,

610
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.440
guy, I don't have anybody.
They lost Hollywood Brown. They traded Rondelle

611
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:07.360
Moore, so that that was a
needed position. They needed a lot of

612
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.519
stuff. But you lock up maybe
a wide receiver one for ten years maybe,

613
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:13.920
yes, hope. Yeah, I
mean, you know, people are

614
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:15.440
you know, I'm saying, well, you know, he could be in

615
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:16.960
the Hall of Fame. And I'm
like, dang, I mean, how

616
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.079
you know how good? We don't
know how good he is, but he's

617
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.760
pretty damn good, looks like.
And I you know he was he was

618
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:27.000
my number three. He was my
number three. Uh, I had him

619
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.800
in the third spot in the Heisman
vallet you know, so I know I

620
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:32.320
saw him play enough. You know
he was really damn good. Yeah.

621
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.079
Hey, just real quick, we'll
got a live of minutes. But one

622
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.719
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Everyone knows Edmund. He has about three

623
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.519
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624
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.519
Yeah, they got to win.
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625
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626
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:53.199
five thirty. You'll get some tickets. Take your whole family, he says,

627
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.039
if you like, there's he's got
three hundred tickets. Wow, And

628
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.920
they need, they needed some peace
support. Man. They got beat in

629
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.719
the first round. It's a there
are one loss from being out of the

630
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:07.320
playoffs, so you know they got
they gotta win these next two and they're

631
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.159
at home. So you'd like to
think that they can do that. But

632
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:14.239
that's tough to lose. The first
lose the opener of a and it could

633
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:15.920
be and it could be the end
of the room. Wow, this could

634
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:21.199
be the last time we see him, right, uh you know this season

635
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.679
because it looks like they're head into
Phoenix. So absolutely absolutely do they play

636
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:29.960
game three or over there? No, all three games are here. All

637
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.400
three games are here because they you
know, they're they're minor league hockey.

638
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.199
They trying to limit the traveler.
So the whole three game series is here.

639
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.760
But you know they're down one ztep. Another thing that we missed that

640
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.079
we didn't talk for breaking news enough
that you would know this, but Ken

641
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.039
hockey is the new A d oh. I didn't see that. He saw

642
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:53.039
that he was was between him and
uh A Cosgrove, we're both being under

643
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:57.920
consideration. Yeah, so he's he
continued to be the baseball I don't,

644
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.719
I don't I read the press release
didn't say, but I'm sure it's in

645
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.760
there somewhere. Congratulations can't hacky me. You know he got that because he

646
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.800
was no Jigs on the show a
couple of weeks. Yeah, and what

647
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:14.639
else on our show? Well,
I know, yeah, you know,

648
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:15.840
you don't want to talk about I'm
not going to bring it up. You

649
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.400
brought it up. I'm not breaking
I'm not talking about it. Well,

650
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:24.119
the Bucks have taken the lead on
on on the Pacers. They were what

651
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.239
were they did you say they were
down seventeen at the end of the year.

652
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.239
Yeah, fifteen seventeen points. Yeah, yeah, they're they're up by

653
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:36.159
one with nine minutes left, pullly
cow. He will remain the baseball coach,

654
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.320
according to Javier, who wrote a
lot of work. Yeah, yeah,

655
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.599
yeah, Well there's kind of like
maybe give him pay raise, but

656
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.239
you kind of eliminate, you know, a position saves some money. Yeah,

657
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.400
give him and he's he studied to
be this, you know, administrator.

658
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.480
Yeah, I think at his college. Yeah, thanks Xavier for that.

659
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.960
Well, good and good good for
can't hockey. Congratulations on that.

660
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.159
Look, you know, uh,
jer Monica leaves leaves a great program behind.

661
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:07.000
He did a lot of great things. The program is in is in

662
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.760
incredible shape with you know, the
quality of other programs, you know,

663
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.760
whether it's soccer or basketball or baseball
or softball or whatever. You know,

664
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:16.920
there's a lot of good things going
on over there. And it's like,

665
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:21.400
okay, Ken, it's all yours
right, you know, don't screw it

666
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:28.480
up, don't mess it, don't
come on out of the ball. And

667
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.840
he's his baseball season is still gonna. I'm going and it looks it looks

668
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:37.000
good. I think we won't talk
about the women's softball. You butchered that.

669
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.960
No tell you tell you, tell
you you tell good and tell the

670
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.679
kids. Well, you know,
we have kind of this reputation is being

671
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:51.079
the kiss of death. Not everything
that we thing is him. We so

672
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.440
you know, PA softball has been
going through this long winning streak. You

673
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.960
know, I kept thinking, would
bring him on this. I'm like,

674
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.840
I'm a superstitious guy on that stuff. You don't want to blow the mojo.

675
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.880
I said it. You know,
I sit in the same seat.

676
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.800
I will put my socks on,
you know, right whatever when when my

677
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:07.239
team is in a streak. So
we waited and wait a wait. Finally

678
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.519
got to twenty six twenty six wins. We thought, you know, we've

679
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.199
got to get them on, so
we do on Monday, on Monday,

680
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.079
on Monday, yeah, okay,
yeah, and they got swept in a

681
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.960
double head on Tuesday, and we
do the thing about it, think about

682
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:23.559
it. We joke, we kind
of joked about it, and she was

683
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.000
odd. No you know, no, no, no, no, they

684
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:31.280
not only lost, they lost twice. Yeah, so she may never be

685
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.119
back, I know. And you
know what if I were her, I

686
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:40.079
would never come back or at the
beginning of the year, just not to

687
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.400
mess with yeah, exactly, all
right. Dodger just went up Tuesday for

688
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.519
Stephen Casey care no, I don't
and Freddie Freeman with an RBI single,

689
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.800
okay, do nothing, top of
the third against the Blue Jays in Toronto.

690
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:59.440
I just took a ten second nap
right there. An you think you

691
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:00.840
guys want to talk about guys,
you're gonna are you gonna be with us

692
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.639
next week? Yeah? Okay for
another week and that's it. Yeah.

693
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.239
I might have a couple of classes. And you were you You were not

694
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.840
a COVID guy, right, You
came in from somewhere else, you transferred.

695
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:16.000
What are you gonna miss the most
that's lee, uh, just the

696
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.599
people here, the the environment,
I like, I liked it. I

697
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:25.360
was a big fan of you.
It so athletically football, basketball. Was

698
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.519
it what you thought it would be
when you came here, because I'm sure

699
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.199
that was a big reason why you
came here. Yeah, No, I

700
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:36.400
definitely like the basketball is a crazy
environment. You just know that's that's you

701
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.119
of a. That's their basketball.
You're gonna rep and rock with that.

702
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:45.079
And then football, just enjoying the
progression that fish came in with. Last

703
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.920
year I was here, they got
better and then this year double digit win

704
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.800
plus a ball game. So yeah, all I know is you better not

705
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.559
have been that student, lady f
bombs. That was that was you were?

706
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.159
You were only that brownie were you? No? No, I don't,

707
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.239
I don't. That was an s
C right. They were booing Brownie

708
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.760
James for whatever reason. I don't. I don't even know. Yeah,

709
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.199
yeah, yeah, And the U
c l A was not you know,

710
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:22.760
the situation with the spit gate,
right, Okay, I'm gonna have to

711
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:28.920
do your evaluation so that in there. This is what you're up against.

712
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:34.320
One pretty simple, it's pretty simple. He says, he's ready, He's

713
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.679
ready he's five ten and ready.
Yeah, they start to shrink. One

714
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.760
had a good day, then you'll
never here. We don't have good days.

715
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.800
Sometimes you do. The one thing
about the show one I think jail

716
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:51.400
agree and so adam. If it's
a good show, it goes by quick.

717
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.920
Two hours is nothing, and sometimes
we wish we had three hours.

718
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.760
And then we say no, we
don't want to because people ask us,

719
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.800
right, why did you go three
number of times? No, then it's

720
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.760
a job. Yeah, we don't
want to work. Uh, it's fun,

721
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.519
it's fun. The Dodgers are killing
him now. They just hit a

722
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.239
three run home. No, he's
just showing up. It's six. Nothing,

723
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.079
just showed Max months. He just
hit a three run dong after Freddy

724
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.440
Freeman. No, it wasn't Freddy
Freeman who knocked in a run. I

725
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.880
don't know, but it's it is
now six against the Blue Jays who the

726
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:24.679
Dodgers were the Dodgers warmly. It
was a minus one twenty two on the

727
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.360
money line. So this is actually
a nice little a nice little get here

728
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.239
because the Dodge has been getting terrible
odds on the money line. Oh that

729
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.800
they just showed the replay and that
was like he crushed that. He crushed

730
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.480
that. Steve, guess what the
scores in Indiana and Milwaukee. It's ninety

731
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:45.280
six, ninety five. Nothing happens, yea seven left is what I have.

732
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:50.559
Nothing happens to the point time the
Bucks have to win this, right,

733
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.519
it would be nice to steal back
home court. Yeah they lost one,

734
00:48:53.559 --> 00:49:00.719
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Phoenix
is on tonight tonight, seven seventh

735
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.440
year. Yeah right, what's the
make of that team? You know,

736
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.599
six and a half. I just
don't trust them, but I and when

737
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.639
I've lost that, it's over.
Honestly, it's like you a we talked

738
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:15.960
about it all year after maybe January
fifteenth. Do you trust them? You

739
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.679
just trust you had no idea what
you were getting. Yeah, yeah,

740
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.480
I saw somewhere and I don't want
to use the source of this, but

741
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:27.960
uh, one of the websites or
one of the Facebook guys is he's hearing

742
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.079
hearing, and I use those quotes
that that Caleb is thinking about coming back.

743
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.840
I heard a report that he'd come
back to transfer. It's another school

744
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.360
to the school. Yeah, so
yeah, who do you believe? Right?

745
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.440
Who do you believe in? And
what does it matter? Because it

746
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:49.960
doesn't think matters about above Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and would break your

747
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.119
heart? Would it break your heart? No? Exactly, neither. Go

748
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.159
get the next guy, like I
always say, just go get the next

749
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.800
guy. They have the freshman guy, Tell me who is what his name

750
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.639
is? It's coming, Yeah,
that's carbon. But the other guy can

751
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:07.920
score too. To Jalen, that's
it. That's it. They have people,

752
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.239
when don't they have people? No, that's and that that's and that's

753
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.119
what it's become when all these people
lose their minds about this guy leaving or

754
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:20.039
that guy leaving. Next there's right
there guys out there and they and and

755
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.440
they know where they are in fact, and I'll give you this and I'll

756
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.559
concede something because we talk about blue
blood blah blah blah. We know this

757
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.360
is a good program and we know
that. And that's beyond. And that's

758
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.519
the point where it's just it's a
it's a conveyor belt. It is.

759
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.559
And and at all the schools,
I mean the other day, what was

760
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:44.159
what school is it? Oh?
God, tuy uh No? Was it

761
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:49.519
Louisville who had no players left?
Zero? There wasn't a single guy from

762
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.280
last year. I don't know if
it was lois But there's one of those

763
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:57.559
schools like a Louisville or a Kentucky
or somebody that they that the entire roster,

764
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.320
all of it, what's going on. It was probably Louisville's gone because

765
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.000
a new coach. Everybody was bad
tire roster left and they're starting, I

766
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:10.199
mean, a brand new team from
not even like the scrubs weren't even there

767
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:15.599
anymore. Everybody left right right.
There was a great tweet from somebody kind

768
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.639
of a power he talked about he
talked to a good coach, a big

769
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:23.880
time coach anonymously actually saying that this
is going to ruin everything. And it

770
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:29.519
started to ruin everything because you start
new rosters every year, payments, all

771
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.719
this and it's just a crazy,
crazy time that they need to stop this.

772
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.239
How they stop this, I don't
know, but it can't sustain.

773
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.159
And we had Corey on yesterday who
explained a lot of things to us.

774
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:45.119
And it's not thinking that eventually two
three years they become employees at the very

775
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:49.760
least, or should be again.
Contracts. It sounds like, you know,

776
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:53.199
con when players have to enter into
contracts to play and then they have

777
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:58.639
to fulfill those contracts. That's what
can stop what's happening right now. The

778
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:02.320
question is does it and what when
does that eventually happen? Because I think

779
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.039
we're still years away from it,
you know, Truse Again, there's some

780
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.559
parties that don't want they don't want
it. And if I were, absolutely

781
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:15.239
I don't want it. I don't
want it because here's free rain. It's

782
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:16.199
free rain, right, you know, because Joe, you know, Joe

783
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:21.519
blow quarterback and go negotiate a you
know, million dollar contract while his center

784
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.840
is getting twenty five thousand dollars,
right, you know. And so no,

785
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:28.239
I mean correct, I mean,
if you're if you're if you're one

786
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.800
of those players, you don't want
it. But if you're somebody who's if

787
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.360
you're the center, you do because
maybe you get the minimum of X,

788
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:36.599
right, you know, and it's
and it's more than you would have gotten

789
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.280
any of course, any any updates, we've got to go about ninety nine

790
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.639
ninety seven the Pacer ninety nine ninety
eight, the Pacers lead the Bucks Dodgers

791
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.480
up six nothing not that score score. Well, thanks guys for being in.

792
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.960
Hey, thank you, We'll see
you around. We'll see you here

793
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.440
later, Adam, Thanks a more
one more gig for you man next week.

794
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.199
All right, thanks for being here, everybody, have a great weekend.

795
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.119
See you at the Spring Green Game
tomorrow. Go to the v A

796
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.239
website, put in the spring code
in the in the ticket thing you can

797
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.000
answer. Free tickets. So see
you Monday.