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let's get down to it Big Week eleven, if for no other reason because
of one big game in Happy Valley. It's Penn State, It's Michigan.
It is the second of three titanic matchups in the Big Ten Eastern Division of
course this season that we've all been looking forward to, and the first one
went to Ohio State over Penn State twenty to twelve in Columbus. Is Penn
State going to show us more and especially more offense that will be required in
this matchup against Michigan. We will get to that in just a second.
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analysis of college football at the Voice of College Football. Checking out the schedule
for Week eleven. We've got Indiana Illinois Alainaia six and a half point favorite
at home noon Eastern Time on the Big Ten Network. What about John Paddock?
Who is that mark? John Paddock? Well? John Paddock delivered one
of the most impressive performances, one of the most clutch performances last weekend in
Illinois's victory over Minnesota. Luke Altmeyer, starting quarterback, got knocked out of
that game, and not at the best of times. On a fourth and
eleven play after a third down went wrong for Illinois, Altmeyer gets knocked out
of the game. They're down to bringing in John Paddock on a fourth and
eleven deep in their own territory. Oh yeah, Oh, there was about
a minute left in the game and they were down and needed a touchdown and
had to go eighty five yards. Paddock delivered a fourth and eleven shot to
Isaiah Williams, one of the best receivers in the Big Ten, thirteen catches
for a buck thirty one against those Gophers then delivered two plays later after another
big completion of forty six yard touchdown bomb to Isaiah Williams, right on the
money, like he just does this every week. He's Tom Brady, and
so Illinois marches on to the win and a two and four record in the
Big Ten. They are still dreaming of getting to postseason play at four and
five. Taken on Indiana, well, who's your fans? We're not forgetting
about your team and what they accomplished this past weekend as well. Of course,
off to an zero to five start in the Big Ten that would have
been counted up two to nineteen under Tom Allen the last twenty one Big Ten
games, Indiana notch is its first victory of the season in conference play,
knocking off Wisconsin twenty to fourteen. So the Hoosiers show a little bit of
life. They could still make it to a bowl game. They've got three
games to go, of course, at three and six, Indiana Illinois,
hey, it's not the most scintillating, sexiest matchups you'll ever see, but
it could be a good one. In Champagne, will the nosedive continue for
the Maryland Terps. They have lost four consecutive ball games, and the Terps
come into this one at Nebraska at five and four, but just two and
four in the Big Ten and a fifty one to fifteen drubbing at the hands
of Penn State at home in a game that we had targeted in the offseason
as a possible possible upset bid in the Big Ten Eastern Division. But Maryland
has dropped like a rock. Nebraska, on the other hand, inexplicably,
well, I'm not gonna say that. I'm gonna say, actually, it
can be explained because it's explained by the Big Ten Western Division mess mediocrity,
margin will play all of that that Nebraska lost to an zero to six in
the Big Ten Michigan State team last weekend, and that did not ruin their
season. Iowa did win, while the other three that were tied for first
place in the Big Ten Western Division entering Week ten all fell Minnesota, Wisconsin,
and yes, this Husker team to Michigan State twenty to seventeen. But
Nebraska's still just one game behind Iowa, and they do get the Hawkeyes on
the final weekend of the season, so they're still playing for a Big Ten
Western Division championship at five and four. The Vegas oddsmakers like Maryland in this
one by two points. It's Nebraska's Maryland. Heinrich Harburg will have to play
better. They needed him to throw twenty eight passes last weekend. That is
not the Husker formula this season under Matt rule, It's defense, defense,
defense, run the football, and run Harburg usually eighteen to twenty times,
but he threw it in harms way twice and twelve of twenty eight is not
going to get the job done, even against a Maryland team that is struggling
mightily its offense versus defense. In this one to Leah Tungabailoa looks to lead
Maryland to a road win in Lincoln Rock Fight in Iowa City, Rutgers is
coming to town. The Scarlet Kites are much improved, and if that wasn't
proven during their six wins, it was most notably proven in a thirty five
sixteen loss to Ohio State. You would have had to have seen the game.
They had a nine to seven lead in the third quarter. We're driving
for another score. A two score lead against number one was possible, but
a pick six by Hancock turned the tide and Rutgers falls to Ohio State,
but they gave it a good go. Kyle Manungai had a big game with
about one hundred and fifty yards rushing. Rutgers ran for two thirty two against
an Ohio State defense that has not given up anything close to that this season.
The Scarlet Knights and the Iowa Hawkeyes, in many reasons many ways,
are mere images of each other. Rutgers with a much better offense, Iowa
with the elite defense much better than Rutgers, even though the Scarlet Knights defense
hey solid. This could turn on special teams, and if it turns on
special teams, it turns toward Iowa. With Tory Taylor the best punter in
America, Drew Stevens coming off that fifty three yard game winner at Wrigley at
the gun against Northwestern, and Iowa wins it the way they win it.
A thirty point over under could not keep the Hawkeyes down. They defeated Northwestern
ten to seven. This over under one of the lowest we've seen I've seen
in recent years. According to our guy Steve Merrill at wager Talk. At
twenty eight and a half, Iowa's a mere one point favorite at home against
Rutgers. Actually, of course, this game means so much more to the
Hawk guys who are gunning for a Big Ten championship game appearance versus what Rutgers
is shooting for and just trying to up its bull status. But the winner
of this game has rightful claim to being the fourth best team in a fourteen
team Big Ten. It's Rutgers, it's Iowa. And of course you know
from listening to us here at Big Ten Paradigm on the College Gridiron Coast to
Coast Network each and every week that we've got an Iowa Show with the Voice
of College Football Tuesdays five thirty Eastern, four to thirty Central with Corey Bradd
from The Hawkeye at the Storm. And of course we talked Rutgers Iowa.
Yeah, I think these teams are very similar. I just had more confidence
in Iowa. They're at home. I have more confidence. I would say,
I would put it this way, in a nutshell, the offense is
the way they operate, the way they try to execute extremely similar Rutgers on
a scale of one to ten. If the Iowa offense is a one one
and a half, then Rutgers is a three and a half. It's still
not a good offense, but it's much better, much more functional than Iowas.
However, Rudgers has a really good defense, but is it Iowa's defense.
No, it is not Iowa's defense. And then I think the tipping
point is Rudgers has adequate special teams and Iowa was e leite on special teams.
So I think it's going to be a good game. But I'm pretty
confident i was going to get the job done when it matters. And we've
said it before, I'll say it again. Iowa's offense will allow most teams
to stay around, to stick around and have a shot, but Iowas defense
will give Iowa a chance to stick around in almost every game, except when
you play someone who's just elite. It basically in every category like in Ohio
State, then State Michigan. We've seen that in recent time. Iowa doesn't
get blown out by anybody else. They really don't know, and it's just
because of how they play, like that defense in Wrigley this past Saturday.
Don't get me wrong, Northwestern is still Northwestern, but they've made explosive plays
this year. They scored twenty one points against the Minnesota team that beat Iowa
a couple of weeks back. They're more capable on offense than I would have
expected under an interim head coach. So I mean, Iowa just made them
look completely incapable, Like it was just like now. They did score the
one touchdown, they got a couple of short fields that you probably saw the
goal line stance. It seems like weird things happen when Iowa plays at Northwestern.
You had two years ago you had the protesters. This year you have
the cavern of a you know, I mean, what was going on with
that cavern? I mean, I know it was on for the dugout,
but why was the ground that soft? I don't understand how you can have
a basically look like a shovel had dug How can you even play on that?
I thought they were gonna have to move to the other side of the
field for safety reasons. They up him down there, and I was goal
line stance was really impressive, and then Tory Taylor had a bad punt and
really that's what it came down to. It got Northwestern back inside the I
think twenty five yard line, and you know, at some point your defense
can't just continue to you know forever hold a team outside of the end zone,
but boy, that defense is good. And people earlier this is one
area where I will probably say I was right and a lot of people on
this were wrong because after Week one people said, oh, this defense is
not what it was last year. They've taken a step back. It's good,
but they've taken a step back. And I said, I don't know
about that. I have a lot of trust in Phil Parker, and I
know Jack Campbell's gone and Seth Benson and they didn't look great against U.
John State. They are every bit as good as they were last year.
I'd love to look at the numbers, but Trooper Gene is better than he
was last year. And Jay Higgins hasn't missed a beat. I mean,
if Jack Campbell's better than Jay Higgins, sure, but it's not as big
of a gap as people think. And believe me, if I'm if you
get me option between Seth Benson and Nick Jackson, I'm probably taking Nick Jackson,
even though I really like Seth Benson. I think Nick Jackson's upside athleticism
gives him that notch ahead. And you know a lot of guys in the
back end are older and they get They got Ja Murray Harris back who gave
up a touchdown Saturday, but for the most part's been very good. Made
the game winning tackle on Saturday as well. I think this defense is everybody
is good, and they're doing it without Noah Shannon, who the INNC doable
A still can't get that decision right. He's practicing with the team, but
they have not gotten word from the NCABLEA. So I expect I would hold
Rutgers down. But if Rutgers can find a way to score two touchdowns,
and that is possible. We've seen teams beat Iowa in low scoring affairs.
If they can get to fourteen, they probably win. That's the honest truth.
If they can get to fourteen points, they probably win this game.
I saw the over under was open at like twenty eight and a half.
I think it's up to twenty nine now. Iowa favored by one, which
basically tells me, hey, this is on a neutral field. Rutgers is
actually a favorite. So I'm a little surprised by that. But boy,
you know, at some point you can't go any lower on these lines,
right, Like they're not going to open any lower. And yet they've all
hit the under. They're all going to hit the under except Michigan State,
and that's because they took on too the house Cooper de Gene right in the
game. Yeah, But I mean, like this past week the over under,
what was the over under against Northwestern? Was it thirty? Was it
twenty eight? Yeah? Thirty? Okay? And what was the final total
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a gift by the gods or the officials two weeks ago in Iowa City,
as they pulled off a twelve to ten win against Iowa. But they have
a heartbreaker now in the lost column that could prevent them from winning the Big
Ten Western Division. We talked about it a few minutes ago on the Illinois
side, as the Gophers had the Aliini exactly where they wanted them, six
point lead, fourth and eleven, game about over eighty five yards away from
the end zone. But the Gopher defense let down three plays eighty five yards
and give up the game winner with seconds left, and Minnesota loses to Illinois
and really damages their Big Ten Western Division hopes. They fall to three and
three, and they've got the head to head against Iowa, They've got the
head to head against Abras, and they got to finish out by playing,
of course, Wisconsin the final weekend of the season. So the Gophers are
still very much in it as they could finish the season at six and three,
but they've got to go to Ohio State in that middle week. That's
the big issue on the schedule. Gophers are a one point underdog to a
Purdue team that was blasted by Michigan last week. Forty one to thirteen.
The Boilers did not score a touchdown until eighteen seconds were left on the clock.
They will not go bowling this year under first year head coach Ryan Walters.
At two and seven, Hudson card coming in with nine touchdowns and eight
picks. That has been the issue with Purdue has been turnovers on offense.
Devin maccabee leads the Big Ten in fumbles as well as Minnesota's Purdue. It's
an NBC game at three point thirty Eastern time, Northwestern Wisconsin get together in
Camp Randalls Stadium. Northwestern coming off that heartbreaking loss against Dieaway in which their
defense, well it was mostly the Iowa offense performed so well in keeping the
Hawkeyes down to just one touchdown in the second half ten points overall. The
Wildcats coming in, I got to say, regardless of what happens the rest
of the season, these final three weekends, and I know Northwestern needs to
win two to three to get to a bowl, they can do it.
They've got Illinois of course the final weekend of the season as well. That's
a winnable game. At four and five, David Brown in Northwestern have done
a remarkable job bouncing back from adversity during the summer, the whole Pat Fitzgerald
scandal, and playing well in the Big Ten with three wins and just narrowly
losing again to Iowa, the team that's most likely going to win the Western
Division championship. Wisconsin, of course, counters with Brayden Lockett quarterback Tanner Mordecai
still on the shelf. Badger's coming off that disappointing effort in Bloomington losing to
the Hoosiers and zero to five Big Ten team going into that action lost on
the road to India for the first time since two thousand and two. Braylan
Allen on the shelf for that ballgame. Also, Chez mclusey lost for this
season, So Wisconsin a bit rudderless on offense without their starting quarterback, without
their bell cow running back, but they still have a shot in the Big
Ten West. At three and three, five and four overall, that's a
FS one start at three thirty eastern time Badgers and Wildcats. Is the point
spread large enough in Columbus Buck Guys and Sparty get together, Ohio State a
thirty one point favorite. This one kicks off at seven thirty Eastern on NBC
much of the eyes will be on Kyle McCord, of course, not necessarily
that he could throw this game away, but his preparation, his progression toward
the game, the game against Michigan on the final weekend of the season.
McCord comes into this one with seventeen touchdowns four picks, but the star of
recent weeks and really the guy that his energized Buckeye fans and their hopes of
knocking off Michigan is won Travon Henderson. He was electric against a really good
Rudgers defense last week, not just in the running game as he was starting
to lower his shoulder. So he's always been a talented back since he came
out of high school as a five star number one running back in the nation.
The speed, the elusiveness, the burst, the explosion has never been
in question for traving On Henderson. But since he's come back from injury,
he is lowering a boom. He has become a physical back that we did
not see in twenty twenty one or twenty two, and great game against the
best opponents on the schedule. He did miss Penn State, but besides that,
he delivered against Wisconsin and against Notre Name and again with the Buckeyes in
a tough fourth quarter battle against Rutgers, he took one for sixty five yards,
not on a run play, but at a dead stand still in the
middle of the field. He catches the ball and accelerates around the corner,
runs past the Redkers defense for sixty five yards to break that game open.
Buck guys hosting Michigan State, our guys, of course, got together as
we always do each and every week for Ohio State Live every Wednesday at eleven
am Eastern Time. Got to check us out. Steve Helwagen, a Buck
Nuts two four seven Sports, Tony Gerdaman, and Kevin Noon from Buckeye Huddle
join us to break down Ohio State in Michigan State. What does the Buck
guys, What does the Buck guys defense need to worry about with this Spartans
team? Apathy? I mean, they're terrible, They're just they're they're awful.
They've kind of bounced around in terms of the quarterbacks that they're playing.
Noah Kim got the first chance and Noah Way that just didn't work out.
Uh, Kyton Howser's played a lot. I mean they're making some decisions on
what they want to do about Sam Levitt. Nobody is really lighting the world
on fire. Love It is like a sixty five percent passer, but he's
only had twenty three attempts. So you look at Howser, who is fifty
nine completion percentage is a little better than Noah Kim's fifty seven percent. You
know, they've got they've got a decent enough running back in Nate Carter,
but honestly, he's not going to be able to get out there and do
the things that a young guy was able to do for Rutgers. They're not
the same type of back. And Carter has one hundred and fifty six carries
to four touchdowns, averaging about seventy three yards a game. In terms of
receiver, their best receiver now plays at Florida State. Makes you just kind
of wonder about that system for what they've been doing for years and years.
Montory Foster Junior. I mean, he's a good enough receiver thirty three receptions,
four hunan thirty six yards, but only has two touchdowns. I don't
see this being a team that's going to have a ton of trick plays.
This isn't D'Antonio, you know, I'm sure there's somebody on the on the
staff that it's creative. I mean, Ohio State could did get burnt by
the double hike play by Rutgers, something that I've never seen before. I
don't think we're going to see a Little Giants type of situation in this game.
But you know, I'm not at all for the beginning of the telfight.
Yeah, I think that the biggest concern is just, you know,
going in and saying, well, we already have this game one while I
know it and you know it and we all know it, you can't go
out there and believe it at that moment. You got to go out and
and do your one eleventh and all the other all the other rallying cries that
we've heard through multiple administrations around here. But no, just no, I'm
gonna be a little harsh. I think that the team laid down after the
second win. The university came out and suspended mel Tucker. You can debate
that that was the right thing to do. I think they made the conscious
decision that they wanted to be done with mel Tucker and didn't want another Larry
Nasser type scandal on their hands, and decided that they were going to sacrifice
this football season to rid themselves of mel Tucker. They'll go out in you
know, December and get them the shiniest, nicest, newest version of PJ.
Fleck type guy to come in and take it, you know, into
the future and you know, energize it a little bit. They're going to
be in the courts with mel Tucker for the next five years, probably fighting
over the remnants of that. You know, if he coached there, this
was his third, third or fourth year. Figure they probably still owed him
sixty million of that ninety million that he signed for. They're going to be
arguing over that in court for about five years unless they come to some kind
of agreement on that. And I'm not even sure they were on solid ground
with what they did, even though they think they were. Seems to me
the players did not think they were on solid ground because they went out and
promptly laid down against Washington forty one to seven, laid down against their rival
Michigan forty nine to nothing, nearly beat Rutgers twenty seven to twenty four,
lost at the end. And then here's Nebraska last week, five wins,
playing for a bowl game, playing for the lead, in the Big Ten
West and they go to Michigan State and they lose twenty to seventeen. How
the hell does that happen? A win star of program like Nebraska, you
know, tells me there is something there at Michigan State. But to expect
them to come into Columbus. This is the third national top five, current
national top five opponent for them this season. And you know, does Ohio
State beat them forty nine to nothing like Michigan And did doubt it? But
you know, the line is like thirty one, I guess, And you
know, anything like forty five to seven or forty five to fourteen, nothing
would be a surprise to me. You know, I don't know if people
realize that Michigan State is the lowest scoring team in the Big Ten. And
I think everybody just assumed that's Iowa, but it's actually Michigan State. They
can't run the ball that I think they're second to last and the Big Ten
and running against Washington this year they posted two hundred and sixty one yards of
total offense against Michigan one hundred and eighty two yards of total offense. So
I think that's probably what you'll expect. Just jump into the other side of
the ball really quick. Something that jumps out on the score sheet from the
Nebraska game is that Michigan State had seven sacks and twelve tackles for loss,
and that's kind of going to be the big equalizer right there. As if
Ohio State's offensive line takes a step backward or Kyle can't get through his progression
quickly enough and holds onto the ball too long, that's where that's where silly
things can happen at that point. But now we get to the game,
well, not the game that's in two weekends, the game of the weekend,
especially of the Big Ten nationally as well. Fox noonkickoff Michigan and Penn
State. Wolverine's a four point favorite that's dropped from the opening line of six
and a half. JJ McCarthy still has yet to throw an interception to anyone
except Bowling Green three against them, none against anyone else. Blake Korum not
having an outstanding twenty twenty two type season rushing for a buck fifty every week,
but they're saving him and working other running backs like Khalil Mullings and Benjamin
Hall into the lineup. The Donovan Edwards situation. That's a mystery to me
in regards to what has happened to him. But he's still a threat passing
game. He started off that Purdue game last weekend with a huge playdown field
on the left sideline. So make Donovan Edwards more receiver than runner down the
stretch would be my suggestion. Blake korm sixteen touchdowns on the ground. Roman
Wilson has turned into an elite wide receiver in the Big Ten. Thirty six
catches ten touchdowns on the Penn State side. I believe that this is the
best. It's the most athletic and the most talented defense in the Big Ten.
Iowa, Ohio State, Michigan awfully close. It is debatable, but
I think the Penn State defense is the best and certainly the most athletic,
with the most NFL future NFL players and not just guys that are gonna make
rosters first and second rounders. We had Marty leap stop By from Penn State
rivals and also Tanner Wooten this week from Blue by ninety to chop it Up?
Oh, chop it up? Did I say chop it up? Chop
Robinson one of the enforcers on defense for Penn State has been missing in recent
weeks. He should be back for this game against Michigan, and that is
enormous. Again, it's Marty Leap, It's Tanner Wooton and myself talking up
the game of the week in the Big Ten, Penn State hosting Michigan.
I guess we should feel better about Penn State's chances considering what they did at
Maryland. Although the terps not as good as we thought they were. Your
interpretation of fifty one fifteen and what that meant to me, The biggest positive
is, I give what you're saying, like, obviously, Maryland is Maryland.
Nonock on them. They're not as good as a lot of people,
myself included, thought they were going to be earlier in the year. But
the biggest positive was, for the first time really all year, you saw
them with some consistency trying to push the ball down the field. You saw
Drew Aller not look hesitant. You saw him come out and just kind of
grip it and rip it. He showed off that arm talent. He showed
why he was a five star recruit, why some places had him his number
one quarterback in the country. In high school, he made throws. There
were multiple throws he made on a Saturday that honestly half the quarterbacks the NFL
probably can't make. So we saw it and to see it in game action,
especially on the road where he has really struggled this year, that is
undoubtedly a big positive, no matter no matter what kind of spin you want
to put on him with the opponent, because I get it, it was
just Maryland. And you know, I said this after the game. I
know Penn State has scored sixty three points twice this year when you consider the
opponent considered it was on the road. That was by far the best offensive
performance of the year. Is the best game k Tron Allen has had running
the ball. Also, we finally saw Dante Cephis, the coveted wide receiver
transfer and Ken State, step up and have a huge game. Made two
really good catches in the end zone for touchdowns on two really good throws by
Drew. He also had a great game blocking with his route running. Yeah,
we kind of joked my cohorts and I happy that inside of him whenever
drew through that interception against Indiana and then led them right down the field to
score to win, Like, hey, you know, what maybe now that
he's finally thrown an interception, he won't be as careful and is concerned with
turnovers. And maybe there's some truth to it, because ever since that interception,
I don't have the numbers right in front of me, but if you
the Maryland game combined with that last drive against Indiana, he is something like
thirty for forty for I think almost three hundred yards five scores. So there
might be something to the once he threw that interception and that he felt the
pressure of not having any turnovers where he can just kind of, you know,
just grip it and rip it and let the arm talent talk for itself.
Yeah. So, And it's kind of strange because that interception, if
Tom Ellen and Indiana would have taken better advantage of it, because I certainly
didn't understand nor did I agree with the play calling once they did. When
you're in a happy valley, he's a thirty two point underdog. You've just
picked off Drew Aller for the first time that he's thrown a pass interception in
his career after setting a record, and you've got the ball in the red
zone or the the lip of the red zone, and you can go up
by four with a touchdown and put Aller in a situation where he's got to
drive it in the final two minutes. For a touchdown, you've got to
try to score a touchdown. But anyway, that was two weeks ago against
and then he bounces back obviously after even after throwing the pick, then the
field goal to tie the game, he goes for the gusto down the right
sideline and throws a nice ball to win the game. That my point about
the interception was going to be, well, if it's a first quarter interception
and he gets it out of the way in that manner, I would believe,
you know, that could be shrugged off. But I guess regardless,
he bounced back with a nice effort. No question. Against Maryland when you
bring up k Tron Allen and I'll throw Nick Singleton into the mix. Has
has Allan taken over? Is the not the number one back but more of
a primary role? I think so Allen this year is averaging nearly five yards
per carry. Last week against Maryland averaged almost seven yards per Carrey finished with
like ninety two ninety three yards, which had he gotten there would have been
the first one hundred yard game of the season for a Penn State back.
Singleton still leads a team in touchdowns, but only averaging four yards per carry.
Now. Singleton has been more of a threat catching them all out of
the backfield this year than Alan, but the explosiveness, which is what Nicholas
Singleton is known for, hasn't been there now. I will say each of
the last two weeks he's returned to kick off fifty plus yards Singleton has so
maybe something is starting to click there again. But there's just been multiple times
this year where there's been holes that last year Singleton hits that in Burster for
ten twenty thirty yards, if not more, and this year he's getting shoe
string tackled. Something just seems off with him. I don't know what it
is, but hopefully whatever it is, they get it addressed, if not
sooner or at least during this offseason. But I definitely think the offense moves
better right now with k Tron Allen on the field. And you know,
and you look ahead the Saturday's game, if you're going to pull the upset,
it's a game where you need to maximize every opportunity and offense you need
to maximize your possessions, maximize your yardage, and I feel like k Tron
Allen gives you a better chance of that right now than Nicholas Singleton does.
So I suspect we'll still see plenty of both on Saturday, but I would
expect Allen to get more reps than Singleton, especially if this is a game
where you know you can get into the fourth quarter and Penn States, you
know, within a score or tied or leading, I think you really lean
on Allen in to try and you know, help help drain the clock and
put it away. Our guy in the Chad David says that Penn State never
beats anyone ranked in the top twenty five. So I did this count a
couple of weeks ago. That would be thirteen games that James Franklin has won
against top twenty five opponents. So thirteen zero. That's that's a pretty close
estimation there, David, nice job. So yeah, it's obviously a storyline
that they don't beat the very best teams on the schedule and have had issues
with that. But yes ranked teams, yes, they've done rather fine.
And if you look at the bull record, all ranked teams usually in the
top ten. Those have been pretty good showings for Penn State. Good Bowl
record, Rose Bowls, BCS Bowls, New Year six Bulls. The whole
deal, Marty, when we look at this defense, and I'm gonna let
you know, I saw almost every play of the Indiana game. I did
not touch the Maryland game. I watched like the eight minute highlight deal.
They didn't really get shredded against Indiana in a sense from play to play,
but it was those big shots that really hurt them and kept the Hoosiers in
the game. What was going on there with an air tight pen steep defense
that was giving up those kind of bombs. It was most two plays.
Indiana got one hundred and fifty nine yards on two plays. On one it
was a miscommunication between Johnny Dixon and kJ Winston. One of them was supposed
to blitz, one of them was supposed to go into coverage. They both
blitzed left a wide receiver wide open. Jalen Reid noticed it, but by
the time Reid noticed it, just he didn't have the angle to get there
to make up for it. And then the other one was the Key Wheatley
bit on a pump fake. And then two or three guys misstackle, So
I don't think it was anything super concerning. Outside of those two plays,
Indiana had like one hundred and seventy yards of offense. Now, obviously you
can't take those plays away and you're lucky. Was Indiana a team who can't
get out of their own way and couldn't really take advantage of your two defensive
mishaps there? But even in the Indiana game, you know when the defense
had to come through, they did. When Indiana picked off Drewler, the
defense held them to a field goal. When Penn State took the lead back,
literally the very next play, there's a strip sack that results in the
safety that effectively ended the game. So it was mostly just two really bad
plays, one of which was a miscommunication. The other one saw a young
defensive back bite on a pump fake combined with some poor tackling. So nothing
super alarming to me. Against Maryland. A lot of people wanted to point
out to Lea Tacavola starting seventeen of seventeen, but it's because Maryland was just
content running four or five yard patterns and Penn State was tackling them right there.
So Penn State was content giving them those because half the time on third
down they would wind up getting a sack or TfL and Maryland sought the punt
anyway, So the defense played extremely well. I don't the mishaps against Indiana.
I think we're just two fluky things and nothing that really raised the red
flag to Moon. I like strange, weird odd stats and Maryland rushing for
a negative forty nine I think was the number. Forty nine would have finished
negative forty nine. And if you know the way stats are compiled, folks,
of course they include sacks, but they basically didn't even try to run
the ball like that was without the sack yardage, Yeah, I would say,
sorry, I was gonna say, even without the sack yardage, just
like regular running, they still had negative yards rushing even if you took out
sack yardage. Yeah. Yeah, Roman Hemby ran for a thousand yards last
year. He was like five carries for zero and yeah, the best figure
in the Big Ten this century in terms of rush defense negative forty nine against
Maryland. We got Marty Leap here from Penn State rivals. I want to
keep Marty along here for the ride. I don't know how much time you
have just long enough we've got tin or wootin from Blue by ninety. I
wanted to hear you guys mix it up a little bit and go back and
forth on the Michigan game. It's been noted here in the chat, and
we did a Michigan livestream this morning and a lot of people upset about the
noon kickoff. So obviously there's not the impact from the crowd, from the
setting, from all of that that there is. I would be one to
say, if I didn't hear the feedback, I would say, you know,
what's the difference. But we know that there's a difference because there are
enough people that talk about it, whether they be coaches and players or fans
themselves, that say there's a difference. So but it is what it is.
And Fox owns the Big Ten and they put the biggest games at noon.
So this has been going on for five years, folks, Like I
hear people talk about it like like this is a new thing, Like what's
going on? This game's at noon? Yeah, this has been going on
with a Big Ten in Fox since like twenty seventeen. So this is a
seventh season of this. But just your thoughts about starting at noon and what
kind of home field advantage can be summoned up at that point. Yeah,
that's right, dislike it is. You know, as a Penn State fan,
everyone has seen the white Yard, everyone has seen night games here.
They know what it's like. You would much rather be able to get and
Michigan Ohio State last year at night with that crowd with the white out.
That said, I mean, the noon kickoffs at Penn State have still been
some really good crowds. I mean last year they took Ohio State to the
wire until JTT took that game over in the closing minutes and a big noon
kickoff, and the crowd was rackets for that I expected. I mean,
the crowd Saturday was going to be lit regardless, but just with everything else
going on right now, this is the first time Michigan's played on the road
since all of this has started and happened, I think that place is going
to be one of the best atmospheres you've seen a Beaver Stadium in quite a
while, even with the noon kick now. Personally, for just a fan
standpoint, I like it because usually the noon window this is the only like
good game is big noon kickoff. So in Penn State plays in big Neon
kickoff. I like it because then I know, usually in the three thirty
or the seven to thirty window, when the games are better, I don't
have to be setting there like, oh man, there's three games I want
to watch the Penn State's on right now, you know, like last week
for example, so that thirty thirty window had quite a few games that was
super interested in, But Penn State Maryland were also playing in the three thirty
windows. So from that standpoint, I like it because it's nice to kind
of have your team as that standalone, one good game of the window where
you're not concerned with trying to watch other games quite as much. But I
will say from a home field advantage standpoint, I definitely think the night game.
I mean, you can ask Jim Harball, he's never won. He's
coached twice at Penn State in night games, and I think the final score
combined in those games was something like seventy two to twenty eight. Like they
haven't Penn State has come out and taken a to Michigan when they've gotten them
under the lights. I mean you can go back to Bill O'Brien that triple
overtime win in the white out. You know it's it makes a difference,
It really does. I think Penn State now after beating Iowa this year,
has won something like seven of the last nine primetime whiteouts. It does make
a big difference. But I still think I expect that crowd to be very
loud, very rockous on Saturday, and for it to be a great home
field advantage. Marty, what do you make this Michigan scandal? And I
don't know how closely you're following it, but even from the standpoint of how
much do you think can be gained or is gained? And that doesn't in
my mind excuse cheating if it's that much, it's that much. But just
in regards to to you know what what impact this is having on the other
teams and Penn State. I don't know if James Franklin, I'm sure he's
been asked about it. I don't know how much he's really responded in truth
about his his personal feelings about it, but you know your thoughts. Yeah,
Well, James was asked about it today's press conference. He gave the
answer you would expect, Oh, hey, we're not gonna worry about that.
We're not gonna talk about that. We're focused on our game plan.
You know, YadA YadA, what you would expect. But to me,
it's it's a complex thing. A sign stilling happens, There's no doubt about
it. It doesn't matter if I mean I coach Pony League Baseball and if
we have a chance to try and still the other team signs we're gonna do
it. It gives you an advantage. But to this extent, I think
that's where it becomes that you know, that great area, that's where it
becomes. What's causing where you see so many big ten coaches angry is to
go to the extent that they did, and I definitely, to me,
you can't deny it gave them an advantage. If you look last year some
of the clips and things that have been released where you can see stallions on
the sideline very clearly mouthing hey, run right, run left whatever it is
to Jesse Mintter, and then the defense just absolutely stuffs to play. That's
that's an advantage. I remember when this first broke two weeks ago, James
Franklin made a comment, this is the only really comment he's made on it,
where in the twenty twenty one game where Penn State had the ball with
like forty seconds left, down by four and a fourth and one, and
Penn State ran a play action and Michigan covered to flee, and I remember
Franklin saying like he and Mike yoursich were just amazed that on fourth and one
in that situation, Michigan knew to run the coverage that they did and not
sell out to stop. That's why they called the pass plays. They figured
Michigan be selling out to stop to run. So just little things like that
where the advantage clearly is there. You know, you look at the Fiesta
Bowl last year, where truth or not, it seems to be enough smoke
that TCU was tipped that this may have been going on and changed their signs
and look how that game went, you know. So I definitely think it
gave them a big advantage. I will say, if it is to the
extent that it seems, I think that Jim Harbaugh's days in Michigan are probably
numbered. I even coming into the year, I thought, after all the
recruiting stuff in the burger and said, which to me, that's that was
stupid. On the instad blaze part like, if you're going to buy a
kid at dinner on a recruiting busy, you should be allowed to. I
felt after all of that, Harball was not gonna be Michigan next year anyway.
But I definitely think now I don't expect him back. And you know,
if something happens between now and kickoff on Saturday where Jim Harbaugh isn't coaching
on Saturday, it's not going to stun me either, because I do think
the Big Ten would love to step in and if nothing else, to spend
Harbaugh, which I think would be the right move. I don't think,
you know, they would be in the wrong for doing that. I just
it's not going to surprise me. But yeah, I think, like I
said, stealing signs happens in sports. It's unavoidable. But to do it
to the extent Michigan did, that's where it becomes a problem in my opinion,
just the I mean, it's right in the bylaws you can't do the
in person scouting ahead of time. That is illegal, and it's pretty clear
that was going on to some extent. But yeah, it's definitely a sticky
situation, and you know, it's made even harder by the fact it's a
team that has won the Big Ten tiers in a row, gone to the
College Football Playoff twoyears in a row, and is in position to do the
same because I think you'd agree with me. If this wasn't one of those
three teams currently ranked in the top ten, the Big Ten probably would have
hammered them by now. But TV and money in viewership. When your three
cash cows are what they are, when those three screw up, it doesn't
matter what comference you are. If your cash cows do something, you're gonna
give them more leeway. And I think we're like, if this was like
Wisconsin or something, I think that would have been hammered already by the Big
Ten. But that's that's kind of beside the point. When I look at
Penn State, I look at the running backs, and those two are as
dynamic as you're gonna see in the Big Ten. I think that defense is
lights out. That's gonna be Michigan's toughest test, maybe all year. Honestly,
I think that defense is legit. Marty is real quick, just gonna
ask you a question. Is there any news surrounding Chop Robinson's availability this weekend,
because that's a pretty big deal, you know, for both sides of
this game. Yeah, it's definitely a big deal. James Franklin told the
Me today he is hopeful that Chop will play on Saturday. He did not
play against Maryland, but he traveled with the team. He was fully dressed
and fully participating in pregame warm ups. So I think all of that's pretty
telling, the fact he he did all of that and then coming out of
it, they're hopeful he's gonna play. I would assume we see him,
and I mean it might be limited with snaps. It might not be the
sixty sixty five snaps the game he typically plays. But I would assume we
see Chopp in some fashion. And you know that that's a really good defensive
end room even without Drop Robinson. So it's crazy because he might be the
best player on their defense, but it's still one that they've been able to
survive without. Now you're gonna be Michigan, you're gonna need Chop. But
I would expect. I don't again, I don't know if he'll bee hundred
percent. I don't know how many snaps he'll have. It might be on
a pitch count, but I would expect we see him in some fashion.
You know, I noticed there was some pressure. I think produced defensive ends
are pretty good and they were able to generate some pressure, and I think
you saw McCarthy have a little bit of happy feat on Saturday. Even then,
though, a lot of us in the in the Michigan sphere, we're
like, what's going on with with nine? And you know, he's still
is you know, sixty five percent three hundred and thirty five yards nine yards
in attempt, Like his off game is still pretty damn good, which you've
seen a lot of Michigan quarterbacks, so it's kind of nice to have that
be the guy under center for Michigan. But yeah, you know, I
think from the Michigan in you know, there's a lot of things that I
love about this team. But I think I'm a little bit concerned about the
run game going up against Penn State. Right now, they're not really firing
on all cylinders. So Marty, love to know what you hear about that.
My one thing with that though, is similar to last year, coming
into the Penn State game Michigan played at Indiana, you know, really wasn't
able to get the run game going, it was a lot of McCarthy's arm
and the reds were shut off for McCarthy, he's not really running, got
to keep him healthy. And then for Penn State, they had some designed
runs for him that really opened some things up. And we're kind of,
you know, key catalysts on those two long touchdowns that corm and Edwards had
to start the second half last year. So Marty loved to know what you
think about, you know, Penn State defense coming in against his Michigan offense.
You know, maybe a little bit more balanced than they've been in the
past. You know, more of a dynamic playmaker at quarterback who's a year
older now, but the run game is maybe not as explosive as it was
in twenty twenty two. Yeah, I mean, I definitely think as I'm
sure this has come as no surprise to anybody. Mandy is a very prideful
individual. Man Diez is probably a tough five defensive coordinator in the country.
I've got no doubt, Manny and this crew is going to be ready to
go for Saturday. For what happened last year in ann Arbor, they are
going to be able to prove a point. The rush defense has been questioned
since that game, and it's kind of built up to this because everyone in
Penn State circle said, well, yeah, the rush defense has been great
since then, but it doesn't matter if you can't stop Michigan. And I
think they're built for success. I really do. If you go back and
rewatch that game last year, Penn State was incredibly not gap sound and that
was as big a problem as anything that happened this year. In the season
opener against West Virginia. Now, to West Virginia's credit, other than Michigan,
that's the best offensive line Penn State has played all year, will play
West Virginia's offensive line is really good. But since then, this defense has
been stellar against the run. You know, Mark and I talked about it
before you joined us. Maryland had negative forty nine yards rushing last week.
Now a lot of that was sackyards, but take out sack yardage. Maryland
still rushed for negative yards. They held Iowa to something like one point one
yards per carry. Ohio State I think only average like three point two yards
per carry against them. They have been extremely good against the run. I
think they're gonna be extremely motivated on Saturday. I think you're gonna see them
play a much more gap sound style of defense. And I really do think
that if Michigan is going to win this game, I mean, make no
buts about it. If I was making a prediction today, I would predict
Michigan. Now, obviously, with everything going on, who knows. I've
said that this is a game he probably safely can't predict till Saturday morning because
you don't know what's going to happen with the Big Ten and the coaching staffs,
that sort of thing. But I think if Michigan's gonna do it,
it's gonna be on McCarthy because I do think Penn State's going to do a
good job of handling the running game. I mean, you would know better
than me, but it does seem from what I've read what I've seen of
Michigan this year, this offensive line, it's not bad, but it's not
as good as it's been. And Penn State's defensive line might be the best
in the Big Ten. So I think that's a that's a combination where Michigan's
gonna get their runs. Corn is so good, Edwards is so good,
but I don't think it's going to be repeated last year where they're just running
wild either. So I do think McCarthy is going to have to make some
plays. And you know, go back two years ago that game in Happy
Valley, what did it come down to. It came down to Kate McNamara
making some big throws late in the fourth quarter for Iowa or for Michigan,
excuse me to pull it out. And I think it might be similar to
that where McCarthy's going to have to make some plays. Because I do think
this Penn State defense you mentioned it being balanced, It is very balanced.
The pass rush is tremendous, the run defense has been great, the secondary
has been really good. And I think most of all they embody Manny diaz
Many is aggressive, he's fiery, he trusts his system, he believes in
it, and so do these guys on defense. If they give up a
big play, they don't worry about it because in their mom and their minds,
hey, we're getting a TfL, we're getting a sack, we're going
to force turnover, so it doesn't matter. And I think that, like
I said, they're gonna be very motivated on Saturday after what happened last year.
Yeah, I think the interesting thing when I look at Michigan's performance in
the run game though, because if you go and look at you know,
I would say the three toughest defenses, you know, against the run that
they have played in twenty twenty three so far have been Nebraska, Rutgers,
and Minnesota, and it felt like they got whatever they wanted in those games.
And now against Indiana, Michigan State, and Purdue, it just felt
like, we're not gonna put McCarthy at risk. Now. He will still
scramble because he is that kind of guy. You know, every time I
watch Michigan on TV, they talk about being a hockey player and the competitive
nature and just not being afraid of contact, which I go little nervous sometimes,
right, you know that that depth is not there. There's no kid
nacnamara behind you, right. But I do think that his legs are gonna
be incorporated into the offense. I think that will probably open some things up
a little bit, you know, call some hesitancy from the linebackers, but
you know, I think it's gonna come down to, like you said,
JJ McCarthy and then on the other side, drew a laar. You know,
I I have I try to be fair, and I just I haven't
seen a ton from him this year so far that's lived up to the hype.
Right, five star, top ten player coming in in twenty twenty two.
You know, the yards per attempt have not been great, but he
has bounced back really well, you know against Indiana and Maryland. You know,
it just seems like they don't let him just you know, let it
rip. I mean, they had the long touchdown to win the Indiana game.
It's like, man, you got to let this kid just go out
there and rip it, make mistakes, learn from it. Like I don't
think as a as a first time starter having you know, twenty touchdowns one
pick, it's great, But if I'm a Penn State guy, I'd like
to see him make more mistakes and learn from him. So you get to
this part of the season and you don't have so many question marks. So
I love to know what you think because I just I feel like they just
they need to take the training wheels off. Man, let this let this
five star go be a five star. You have to just do that sometimes
and take the lumps. Hey, you're preaching to the choir there, you
know. I mentioned this to Mark earlier, some of us, some like
Cohorts and I rivals with have the Valley Insider. We joked that once you
see through the interceptions Indiana, like hey, it's okay, taking people us
through, it's gonna be okay. And since that interception, he's coming off
by far the best game of his career against mary Maryland. I mean it
was just Maryland, but man, the throw some of the throws he made
were just I said it tomorrow. There was three or fourth throws he made
in that game. Half the quarterbacks the NFL aren't gonna make that throw.
And that just kind of goes to your point of hey, he's got the
arm talent, let him show it. But dating back to that last drive
against Indiana, I don't have the exact stats in front of me right now,
but he's something like thirty or forty for three hundred yards and five scores.
So like, since he threw that interception, it's almost like, hey,
you know what it's gonna He realized it's gonna be okay. You can
make mistakes, learn from them, and even the coaching staff the game they
called against Maryland was completely different than any other game they've called this year.
There were multiple deep shots more than not they worked. Some of the ones
that didn't weren't on Drew, Like there was a deep post to KeAndre Lambert
Smith where he just broke the wrong way coming out of his route or else
it would have been a sixty yeard touchdown. There was a drop on what
could have been a touchdown on a deep throw. But I'm with you,
like, take the training those off, let him sling it. And I
will say that the fact we didn't not just that we saw it against Maryland,
but Dante Cephis, the transfer receiver from Kent State, had by far
his best game of the season. You finally maybe feel comfortable you've got two
legitimate receiver options with Cefisz and KeAndre Lambert Smith. Obviously that opens things up
a lot more too. So I do think if they're going to pull the
episode on Saturday, Drew has to play the way he did against Maryland.
I think if he plays the way he did against Maryland, and I know
it's not a coincidence that he had that game and it was the best game
Catron Allen's had running the ball all year. Either those two things definitely go
hand in hand. If Drew can do that. It's going to open up
the running game more and they're going to have a chance to beat Michigan on
Saturday, especially with it being in Happy Valley. And I mean this crowd,
it's always a hostile crowd for an opponent at Beaver Stadium anyway. But
and I mean, I'm sure you and every other Michigan personal world agree.
Is this the first road game since all of this That place is going to
be They're going to be this game could be played anywhere, And that crowd
was going to be so incredibly anti harbor on anti Michigan. You throw in
the fact that it's Beaver Stadium, it is a team that you have a
little bit of a rivalry with to begin with. Already, it's going to
be a very hostile crowd that I think Penn State will be able to feed
off of. Yeah, I mean, you know it's gonna be I don't
know. I mean, maybe the signs will be better. I mean,
that play is gonna be rocking no matter what. Right, I mean,
it's you know, it's not at night. It's not a true white out
because you know, November Big ten rules night games, all that fun stuff.
But I mean I feel pretty good with with McCarthy at quarterback for Michigan,
just being able to go in there and say, I've been in really
hostile environments. I mean the Shoe, you know, the Horseshoe and Happy
Valley are too, are the toughest. And so you know, he was
there as a freshman. I honestly can't remember how many times he got in
with with the packages they had built for him. That was a McNamara game.
But you know, so I think that he'll be he'll be ready for
it, and this team I think they're gonna feed off of it too.
I mean, I think it goes both ways. So I'm excited for it.
You know, with Blue ben Idi, we're doing a watch party in
our It's gonna be amazing here in Ayrborn. I'm sure you guys are gonna
have a ton of fun out in Central PA as well, like one of
the best environments in college fotball. So gonna be an awesome game. I
can't I can't wait. And again I'm just ready to you know, the
soft schedule stuff for Michigan, right it's like these games are gonna be played.
It's you know, it's just that it didn't happen in October. So
we're gonna find out what Michigan's made of in Penn State too, because these
are two of the best teams in the country. Well, we will dive
into the soft schedule. I want to respect Marty's time. I'm gonna make
one kind of broad observation and if Marty needs to leave, that's great.
If not, Marty, you can respond to this as well before you head
out. Is that I believe Penn State's get the best defense in the Big
Ten, but I think Ohio State, Michigan, and Iowa are very close.
I just think the Penn State just from a sheer athletics standpoint, with
Manny d As is the coordinator all three levels. But again I think that
those three other teams are really, really good as well. But Michigan is
just to me, just buttoned up everywhere. Maybe there's some special teams gaffs
here and there. We heard Tanner talk about the tackle play against Purdue,
but they have two really good ends. Penn State's just more uneven. You
know, Drew Oler's got a lot of growing up to do. JJ McCarthy's
just hit his peak. Just you know, I I'm concerned to a certain
extent about the Penn State offensive line. They don't seem to have a guy
that's going to blow the top off the defense and wide receiver. A lot
of lot of twos and threes that might be those guys for elite teams.
Marty, how would you respond to that where Penn State's a little bit more
uneven and Michigan seems to be just a complete team. Yeah, I'd agree
with everything you said. I mean, I've said a KeAndre Lambersmith, Dante
Cephist that group. I think they're good receivers, but they are good number
twos. They don't have a true number one. Michigan. Yeah, I've
said all year that I think Michigan's the best team in the country. I
think they're a better football team than Georgia. I think they're the most complete.
Like you said, they're complete. They can beat you running the ball,
they can beat you throwing the ball. They've got receivers. That defense
is nasty. If this game was in ann Arbor, I would probably pick
Michigan to win by two plus scorers, but I think it being in Beaver
Stadium will close that gap. Like I said, I still think Michigan will
win. That is, assuming you know, something doesn't happen between now and
kickoff with Harbaugh and Shroon Moore or Jesse Mint or whatever it may be,
with suspensions or something. But yeah, I agree that Michigan is a complete
football team. I think Penn State's a very good team. I think Penn
State's one of the ten best teams in the country. I just think Michigan
and Georgia are on a different level than the rest of the country this year,
and that's we're going to see that on Saturday, where I think it's
going to be close to the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan maybe
gets a late score when they kind of similarly Ohio State game, the defense
wears down get a late score to make it two scores. But I expect
it to be a great football game. But yeah, it should be a
lot of fun. If nothing else, it should be one of the best
games thegar on the college football schedule. Why is Michigan football different post twenty
twenty than what it was before? What do you I think you look at
the coordinators they hired. I know it's good. That's a leading question mark
uh uh. You know, you know there's a lot that out there that
Mike McDonald was really good at stealing signs. Well, he just you know,
casually has the number one defense in the NFL with the Baltimore Ravens.
You know, I think they made some changes to their philosophy. I think
they got a lot of bad eggs out of the building. You know,
we actually had the opportunity to speak with a number of players we did.
I think it was four players that we did in person podcast with that will
be coming soon. I don't know when we're gonna be able to release that,
but talking to those guys, the culture is completely different from twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. Also Aiden Hutchinson, J J.
McCarthy, like Korum Son Haskins, offensive lines playing amazing, right Like,
I don't think that that's I don't think you can point to having signs as
the reason that you are physically dominating opponents on the field. I just you
know, if you want to look at the twenty twenty one Ohio State game,
I don't think any signs could have saved anybody in that game. I
mean, Michigan's getting two to three yards of movement at the line of scrimmage.
So yeah, I think you've got a lot of great NFL players.
Look at DJ Turner, Dax Hill, Mazzi Smith, I already mentioned Hutchinson,
David Ljabo, Brad Hawkins. You got Rod Moore, Now I mean
you got Chris Jenkins. Like got good players, man, got good players,
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